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A
Call
this
meeting
to
order.
This
is
a
meeting
of
the
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
of
the
Bloomington
common
Council
for
Wednesday
June,
7
2023
on
the
agenda.
We
have
one
item
ordinance
2311.
here
to
present
on.
It
is
director
of
Public
Works
Adam
weyson
on
amending
title,
six
of
the
Bloomington
municipal
code
to
update
and
increase
fees
for
service
and
harmonizing
chapters.
Four
and
five
of
title
VI
of
Bloomington
Municipal,
Code,
Mr,
wayson
Welcome,
to
our
show.
B
And
members
of
council
Adam
weyson
once
again,
Public
Works
director
for
the
city
of
Bloomington,
always
a
privilege,
pleasure
and
an
honor
to
be
before
you
tonight.
I
will
be
presenting
information
and
data
on
the
sanitation
division
of
the
public
works
department.
That
will
show
that
we
are
in
need
of
adjusting
the
rates
for
these
services
to
meet
the
challenges
of
rising
costs.
B
B
B
2022
did
see
some
reductions
from
2021
in
both
solid
waste
and
recycling
tonnages.
We
there's
some
theories
behind
why
these
reductions
have
occurred
from
2022
to
2021
for
recycling.
That's
a
big
drop
off
at
that.
Almost
a
thousand
tons
of
recycling,
less
I've
been
working
very
closely
with
our
service
provider
or
public
services
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
this
is
from.
B
First
off,
it's
because
we're
recycling
better
in
Bloomington
when
we
rolled
out
the
2017
program
with
the
single
stream
recycling,
those
first
two
years
at
tonnages
for
recycling,
had
higher
levels
of
contamination
than
we're
currently
seeing.
We've
also
had
some
products
that
are
no
longer
acceptable,
so
the
greasy
pizza
box
that
used
to
go
into
the
recycling
is
no
longer
recyclable,
so
those
are
the
being
pulled
out
as
part
of
tonnages.
B
The
cellophane
and
the
plastic
bags
are
pulled
out,
so
these
reductions
and
tonnages
on
the
recycling
side
are
somewhat
what
we
expected
for
the
solid
waste
side
we're
theorizing.
This
is
kind
of
the
return
to
work
back.
You
can
see
in
you
know,
18.
We
were
only
at
6,
700
tons
for
solid
waste
and
the
increases
in
1920
big
increase
with
covid
22
21,
another
big
increase.
C
B
The
cost
increases
we've
occurred
with
these
tonnages,
so
you
know
we're
22,
we're
back
to
about
the
2018
levels
a
little
bit
below,
but
we
had
huge
increases
in
20,
2020
and
2021
same
for
recycling,
so
2018
until
2019
we
never
paid
to
have
our
recycling
processed
worldwide
markets
changed
and-
and
you
can
see
again
here-
significant
increases
in
costs
that
we've
just
had
to
absorb
within
the
rate
structure.
We
currently
have
next
slide,
but
the
bigger
issue
for
us
right
now.
B
You
know:
we've
been
able
to
absorb
the
cost,
increases
on
disposal
and
processing
where
we're
seeing
the
biggest
uptick
is
in
our
supply
costs,
so
supplies
across
the
board,
whether
it's
just
the
general
supplies,
the
crews
use
to
you,
know
the
gloves,
the
the
glasses,
the
different
things
that
the
crews
are
using
as
part
of
their
personal,
their
supplies
to
do
the
collection,
fuel
cost
increases,
have
been
a
tremendous
increase
over
the
year.
Last
couple
years,
vehicle
maintenance
cost.
We
knew
we
were
going
to
have
higher
vehicle
maintenance
costs.
B
With
the
new
program
we
knew
the
trucks
were
more
complex,
we
knew
they
had
more
systems
on
it.
That
would
need
more
regular
maintenance,
but
what
we've
also
seen
is
from
what
we
predicted
early
on
with
the
modernization
program
to
what
we're
actually
seeing
in
the
cost
of
parts
and
supplies
for
the
trucks
in
the
market
is
that
the
inflationary
costs
of
that
are
really
impacting
us
and
then,
as
well
as
the
increased
utility
costs
for
util
for
sanitation
as
well.
B
So
the
next
slide
is
going
to
show
a
table
with
with
where
you
can
see
some
of
these
changes,
so
fuel
in
2017
were
about
three
times
higher
now
in
2022
on
those
costs,
motor
vehicle
repair,
more
than
double
utilities
and
other
operational
expenses
more
than
double
than
what
we
were
in
2017..
So
these
are.
These
are
mostly.
These
are
costs
that
are
beyond
our
control.
You
know
we
can't
control
the
fuel
prices,
we
can't
control
the
utility
prices,
we
can't
control
the
price
of
the
parts
to
fix
the
trucks.
B
B
What's
the
impact
of
these
increased
costs,
and
this
is
the
place
we
don't
want
to
get
in,
and
this
is
why
we're
here
tonight
by
not
keeping
up
with
the
needed
investments
in
capital
asset
replacements
for
the
trucks,
whereas
we
had
hoped
to
purchase
one
truck
per
year
to
as
a
replacement
cycle,
we're
currently
purchasing
one
truck
every
two
years.
This
is
not
a
good
position
to
be
in
given
the
heavy
duty
use
of
the
trucks.
B
Moving
on
to
what
some
of
the
successes
of
the
sanitation
modernization
program
have
been
overall
and
I
can
tell
you
this
from
what
I
hear
in
the
grocery
store,
when
I'm
stopped
overall
resident
satisfaction
next
slide
resident
satisfaction
with
garbage
collection
has
increased,
as
shown
in
the
results
of
the
community
surveys
from
2017
to
2021.,
as
in
2017.
It
was
an
overall
satisfaction
rate
of
78,
2019,
84
and
2021
83,
so
we're
seeing
that
residents
do
appreciate
the
new
system
in
the
community
survey.
B
The
national
average,
the
most
recent
National
averages
we
can
find
show
that
it
was
32
percent
in
2018
nationally
and
the
Indiana
rate
in
2019
was
only
19,
so
bloomington's
a
good
recycling
community
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
since
the
Inception
of
the
single
stream,
we've
had
better
success
in
getting
cleaner
recycling
to
the
material
recovery
facility.
Next
slide,
what
while
sanitation
work,
continues
to
be
a
profession
that
ranks
as
one
of
the
top
10
most
dangerous
work
environments.
B
For
many
different
reasons,
we've
been
fortunate
to
have
reduced
the
number
of
serious
Workforce
injuries
at
sanitation
since
the
Inception
of
the
modernization
program.
The
next
slide
is
going
to
show
you
some
numbers
on
this
as
well.
But
to
me
this
is
the
most
important
success
factor
we've
had
here
when,
if
for
any
of
the
members
that
were
on
the
council
in
2017,
one
of
the
biggest
reasons
we've
moved
to
that
modernized
program
was
Employee
wellness
and
safety.
B
We
were
having
huge
rates
of
injury,
Serious
injury
and
non-serious
injury
to
the
from
that
type
of
old
school
program
where
you
were
heaving,
the
trash
in
the
back
of
the
truck,
we
had
a
lot
of
lifting
injuries,
a
lot
of
back
injuries,
a
lot
of
strains,
some
very
significant,
while
about
50
percent
of
the
households,
are
still
serviced
by
the
rear,
reload
trucks.
50
about
50
are
serviced
by
the
automated
side,
load
pickup
as
well,
but
additionally,
with
with
the
rear
loads.
B
Even
though
about
half
the
households
are
still
picked
up
by
rear
load,
the
Tipping
mechanisms
have
the
Tipping
mechanisms
on
the
back
of
the
trucks,
have
eliminated
that
lifting
and
throwing
and
has
reduced
a
lot
of
those
injuries
as
well.
This,
however,
it
doesn't
mitigate
100
of
the
risk
of
this
line
of
work.
Staff
are
still
prone
to
the
occasional
near
ankle
sprains
as
they're
getting
on
and
off
a
truck,
or
you
know,
a
strain
from
moving
a
really
heavy
96
gallon
cart.
Those
still
occur,
but
I
hope
to
the
next
slide.
Oh
shoot!
B
Actually,
can
you
go
back?
One
I
had
a
table
that
I
thought
was
in
here
and
I'll
share
with
you,
but
back
before
20
I
think
it
was
2015.
We
had
170
000
a
year
for
worker
compensation
costs
since
then
our
we're
less
than
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
most
years
on
any
working
work
or
compensation
cost
since
modernism.
That's
a
huge,
huge
Improvement
and
success
for
the
workforce
down
there.
B
The
annual
amounts
of
general
fund
support
that
go
to
the
sanitation
division,
so
this
is
the
amount
that
is.
This
is
the
amount
of
general
fund
support
that
goes
to
sanitation,
to
offset
the
the
revenues
that
don't
meet
the
overall,
the
overall
cost
of
service
and
the
entire
budget
for
the
sanitation
division
ranges.
B
You
know
from
the
about
900
000
to
the
1.1
million
dollars
annually
next
slide,
so
the
proposal
to
adjust
service
fees.
As
you
see
in
this
chart,
you
can
see
the
current
rates
today,
651
for
a
35,
gallon
11.61
for
a
64
and
1852
for
a
96
gallon
cart
the
models
below
it.
So
the
node
General
funds,
support
reduction
that
is
just
to
meet
the
rising
costs
that
we've
occurred
incurred.
B
We
need
to
adjust
rates
just
to
meet
the
cost,
increases
that
we've
been
seeing
over
the
last
several
years,
so
the
no
general
fund
support
reduction
is
just
that
it
just
it
raises
the
rates
to
meet
the
rising
costs
and
continues
with
that
about
million
dollar
annual
average
on
general
fund
support
the
next
four
models.
The
25
support,
reduction,
50
percent,
support
reduction
and
100
reduction
are
the
models
that
would
reduce
the
general
fund
support
by
those
percentages.
B
The
rate
structures
are
based
on
cart
sizes
for
the
solid
waste
cart,
but
it
also
includes
the
cost
of
providing
the
recycling
services.
It
includes
the
cost
of
providing
Yard
Waste
Services
includes
the
you
know,
costs
for
all
the
services
provided
down
at
sanitation.
We
used
to
refer
to
recycling
as
being
free.
Recycling
is
not
free.
We've
got
the
cruise,
you
know
four
crews
per
day
that
are
picking
up
Recycling,
and
then
we
have
all
those
recycling
processing
costs
on
top
of
it.
B
At
this
point,
you
see
the
set
of
ranges
for
those
council
members
that
were
on
the
council
in
2017.
When
we
first
moved
to
this
rate
structure,
we
asked
for
a
range
for
each
of
the
cart
sizes
for
the
Board
of
Public
Works,
to
be
able
to
set
the
final
rate
within
the
ranges
that
helped
us
in
year.
Three
of
the
program
adjust
rates
based
on
the
cost
increases.
B
We
had
seen
in
the
first
two
years,
we're
again
asking
for
that
for
so
that
over
the
next
several
years,
we
would
have
some
flexible
ability
if
we
see
market
conditions
continue
to
increase
costs.
I'll
also
note
that
these
rate
structures,
we
did
a
lot
of
peer
community
research.
So
what
are
peer
communities
of
like
Bloomington
charging
for
trash
and
recycle
Services?
These
are
very
much
even
at
the
100
support
reduction.
B
We're
still
pretty
we're
still
in
a
line
with
a
lot
of
our
peer
communities
and
I
can
give
some
specific
examples
of
that
if
you'd
like
later
and
it
also,
these
rate
structures
also
are
very
competitive
and
even
lower
than
most
of
the
private
haulers
that
offer
sanitation
services
in
Bloomington.
The
next
slide.
Additionally,
Beyond
those
rate
structure
proposal
models.
B
We
we
are
asking
to
update.
We
offer
an
additional
weekly
pickup,
so
one
of
the
things
we
heard
when
we
went
to
the
modernized
program
is
what,
if
I
have
a
heavy
trash
week-
and
my
cart
wasn't
enough
for
that
week-
we'll
do
an
additional
pickup
on
Fridays
and
you
see
the
current
rates
and
then
the
proposed
rates,
based
on
the
increases
of
the
rates
that
we've
been
proposing.
We
also
are
asking
for
an
update
for
the
large
item
and
Appliance
collections
right
now.
B
It's
a
lot
of
information
and
I
know
that
you
folks,
are
going
to
have
a
lot
of
questions.
I've
got
a
ton
of
backup
information
here
on
on
the
data
that
we've
collected
over
the
last
several
years
and
happy
to
just
answer
questions.
If
there's
anything,
we
are
not
able
I'm
not
able
to
answer
tonight.
We'll
certainly
get
those
answers
and
get
those
back
to
you
very
quickly.
B
So
I
appreciate
your
consideration
of
this
I
know
in
my
individual
conversations
with
council
members
over
the
last
year,
some
folks
were
very
interested
in
reducing
the
general
fund,
support
and
I
heard
from
others
that
were
not
interested
in
reducing
the
general
fund
support.
That's
why
we
created
these
ranges.
Why
we
created
these
models
to
give
the
council
an
opportunity
to
deliberate
on
the
on
the
fee
structure
based
on
the
council's
will
so
again
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
I
know
right.
B
D
B
The
revenues
brought
in
from
the
residents
and
then
that-
and
it
ranges
in
over
the
last
five
years-
it's
ranged
between
the
low
end
of
900
000
to
the
high
end
of
about
1.1
million
back
in
2017
or
16.
It
was
about
1.4
million,
so
we've
seen
some
higher
numbers
in
that
1.1,
but
we've
been
able
to
keep
it
right
around.
That
million
dollar
range
got.
B
B
D
B
Absolutely
let
me
give
you
an
example,
so
we're
about
to
go
so
we
enter
into
usually
a
three-year
contract
with
Solid,
Waste,
Disposal
and
recycling
processing.
Currently,
those
are
both
held
with
Republic
Services,
if
the
rate,
so
can
you
back
you
back
that
showed
the
one
more
one
a
couple
more
a
couple:
more,
oh
yeah!
B
My
guess
is
that
they're
going
to
continue
to
rise.
The
other
thing
with
these
per
ton
rates
is
within
the
contract.
There's
annual
CPI
increases
that
are
built
into
the
contract.
So
last
year
we
were
three
percent
less
on
each
of
those.
The
year
before
we
were
three
percent.
Less
than
that
year,
so
they've
had
annual
increases
put
into
them
as
well.
D
In
fact
the
questions
I'm
going
to
get
is:
when
do
I
pay
for
the
police
to
come
when
do
I
pay
for
snow
to
be
removed
because
I'm
already
paying
taxes,
this
isn't
personal.
This
is
you
and
I
mean
this
business
I
got
a
lot
of
respect
for
you,
but
this
is
the
reality
and
other
costs.
So
we'll
we'll
talk
about
all
that
later.
Once
we
get
into
regular
session
that
sort
of
thing
but-
and
you
said
some
council
members-
wanted
that
and
wanted
on
I
think
you
know,
I
wasn't
one
of
them.
So
thank.
D
F
B
Yes,
they
increased
over
the
years,
certainly
increased
over
the
years.
We
did
see
that
2022
reduction
but,
like
I
said
earlier,
these
were
higher
than
we
were
expecting
for
budgets
and
then,
where
the
real
cost
increase
has
been
on
the
supply
side,
that's
been
the
340
000
annual
difference
of
2017
to
2022.
this.
If
it
keeps
up
we'll
be
able
to
stay
on
the
lower
ends
of
the
ranges,
but
I'm
not
also
convinced
that
that
maybe
a
little
bit
of
an
anomaly
we'll
see.
B
B
So
from
2021
to
2022,
we
no
longer
so
that's
when
we
got
the
ultimatum
from
the
recycling
processor.
You've
got
to
get
the
pizza
boxes
out
your
cardboard's
not
of
high
enough
quality,
I
think
a
lot
of
that
tonnage.
Reduction
was
that
cardboard
because
when
our,
if
you'll
ever
see
as
you
drive
through
the
neighborhoods
after
a
recycle
route,
if
there's
a
cardboard
pizza
box
in
the
between
the
lid
and
the
cart
for
the
recycle,
it's
because
the
recycle
guys
have
pulled
it
back
out
and
left
it
because.
F
E
Yes,
I
was
I'm,
certainly
not
one
who
is
for
eliminating
the
contributions
from
the
general
fund.
This
is
a
public
service.
Sanitation
is
a
public
service.
I
would
hate
to
see
it
Go
privatized
for
a
lot
of
reasons.
My
question
has
to
do
about
other
ways.
We
can
reduce
costs
without
putting
the
burden
on
fees
for
the
consumers.
For
the
for
the
you
know,
our
constituents,
as
you
know,
I
talked
to
the
workforce
and
I
learned
a
lot
when
I
talk
to
the
workforce
and
I
had
some
concerns
about
our
personnel
and
our
Fleet.
E
We
have
very
few
people
working
on
all
of
the
Rolling
Stock,
including
these
big
trucks
and
and
the
more
modernization
trucks.
So
can
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
internal?
How
are
we
doing
with
our
staffing
levels
and
our
Fleet
Maintenance
Personnel,
because
I
I
was
understanding
that
they
were
so
short
staffed
that
many
things
were
having
to
be
outsourced
like
oil
changes
because
they
just
couldn't
get
to
it?
E
B
A
couple
of
things:
first,
I'll
start
with
the
cost
and
then
I'll
go
back
to
the
Staffing
with
things
like
Fleet
and
sanitation.
With
with
those
Supply
costs,
we
don't
have
any
control
over
those.
We
don't
have
any
control
over
what
fuel
costs
and
those
routes
are
fixed.
We're
going
to
use
the
same
amount
of
fuel
week
in
week
out
and
when
the
when
I
mean
I
think
it
was
a
on
fuel
alone.
We
were,
you
know
three
times
the
cost
from
2017
to
2022..
B
So
you
know
that's
not
an
area
for
belt,
tightening
the
cost
of
the
parts
to
fix
the
truck.
Those
have
just
continued
to
fix
the
trucks.
Those
have
just
continue
to
rise
outside
of
our
control.
So
a
lot
of
those
areas.
We
don't
have
belt
tightening
ability
where
we,
when
it
comes
to
now
Staffing
and
things
like
Fleet,
Maintenance
and
Outsourcing.
We
did
have
a
period
over
the
last
nine
months
to
a
year
where
we
were
down
at
times
up
to
three
mechanics
at
Fleet
Maintenance,
whether
it
was
turnover,
FMLA
or
other
absences.
B
B
Staffed
at
the
levels
I
would
like
to
see
for
Fleet
Maintenance
we're
in
a
much
better
place
than
we
were
nine
to
12
months
ago.
We've
got
we've
reduced
the
backlog
on
preventative
maintenance
significantly
and
where
the
Outsourcing
that
we
have
continued
to
do
are
for
the
larger
engine
rebuilds
or
the
things
that
are
going
to
take
multiple
weeks,
where
you're
going
to
have
a
vehicle
in
a
bay
taking
up
the
base
space
for
multiple
weeks.
So
those
really
big
heavy
repairs,
those
tend
to
be
outsourced.
B
When
we
were
down
two
and
three
mechanics,
we
did
start
to
Outsource
some
of
the
preventative
oil
changes
to
forward
and
to
others.
We've
pulled
that
we've
reigned
that
back
in
for
sanitation
in
particular,
though,
we
just
had
a
really
good
conversation
with
Union
leadership,
from
sanitation,
Union
leadership
from
Fleet
Maintenance
and
as
well
as
the
management
team
for
both
Fleet
sanitation
and
myself.
B
As
a
public
works
director
discussing
how
we
can
make
improvements
there,
we
are
going
to
consider
an
outsourced,
we're
going
to
consider
an
outsourced,
Fleet
Maintenance
Service
for
the
short
term,
to
try
to
help
keep
after
these
trucks.
To
give
a
little
bit
of
alleviation
to
the
Fleet
Maintenance
division,
but
you
know
it's
no
secret
and
I've
mentioned
it
in
my
budget
hearings
in
the
past,
we're
below
American
Public,
Works
Association
standards
for
the
number
of
Mechanics
for
the
number
of
vehicles
and
equipment.
We
have
the
last
budget
cycle.
B
We
added
a
mechanic
for
the
first
time
that
was
a
huge
benefit
to
us
and
something
that
I'm
very
thankful
for
and
I
know.
The
rest
of
the
staff
at
Fleet
are
very
thankful
for
so
when
it
comes
to
Belt
tightening
I
promise
you,
the
I,
think
some
of
you
have
heard
me
talk
about
the
Mantra
of
Public
Works.
The
very
first
statement
in
the
mantra
for
Public
Works
is
that
we're
going
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
taxpayer
dollar
and
we
talk
about
that.
B
When
we
presented
the
modernization
program
is
we
thought
it
would
take
less
people
to
do
the
pickup
routes
we've
reduced
about
two
ftes
at
sanitation
since
2017,
but
we've
also
realized
there's
a
higher
volume
of
customer
service
needs
when
we
own
the
cards
so
we've
had
we've
had
some
more
back
office
needs
that
we've
been
filling
gaps
with
with
folks
on
light
duty
or
different
things,
but
we
have
reduced
to
Ft
two
ftes
since
the
Inception
of
the
modernization
program,
so
good
belt.
Tightening
there.
E
Yeah
thanks
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
well
aware
that
the
hard
costs
are
there,
the
fuel
costs,
nothing
can
be
done
and
this
equipment
is
expensive.
But
one
of
the
things
you
do
here
when
you
talk
to
the
rank
and
file-
and
you
talk
to
the
boots
on
the
groundworkers-
is
the
preventative.
Maintenance
does
go
a
long
way
in
the
longevity
of
the
equipment
and
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
staff
and
enough
wherewithal
to
make
sure
that
we
are
preserving
what
we
have
and
not
passing
those
costs.
Then
you
know
on
to
the
public.
E
B
Not
just
I'm
confident
that
we're
not
having
tremendous
increased
cost
on
the
maintenance
and
repair
because
we're
not
doing
preventative
maintenance,
we're
having
increased
costs,
because
these
are
the
heaviest
Duty,
most
wear
and
tear
trucks
we
have
out
there.
These
are
big
heavy
trucks
that
you
know.
H
Miss
waste
and
I
I
always
appreciate
all
your
information
and
totally
believe
you
and
with
all
those
costs
and
everything
where
I,
where
I
keep
getting
stuck
and
I
know.
We've
had
this
discussion
before
I
keep
getting
stuck
as
I.
Just
don't
understand
why
we
need
to
eliminate
the
subsidy
from
a
general
fund
and
in
fact,
if
I
understand
it
right
we're
going
to
eliminate
the
leaf
vacuuming
program
which
is
going
to
save
somewhere
about
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
right.
H
Well,
we
have,
we
have
the
ability-
and
we
have
general
fund
to
subsidize
it
and
that's
why
people
pay
taxes
and
that's
why
we
did
a
local
income
tax
increase
and
added
16,
more
million
to
cities,
coffers
I
just
can't
get
beyond
that.
That's
where
I'm
at
I'm,
not
I,
don't
dispute
the
cost,
increases
or
anything.
It
seems
to
me,
like
it's
essential
services
and.
B
B
My
big
concern
is
the
operations
the
philosophical
policy
decisions
way
up
here
about
you
know
how
should
the
money
be
divvied
up
amongst
the
Departments
and
amongst
the
services
we
provide?
That
goes
the
pay
grade
above
me,
I'm
at
a
pretty
high
pay
grade
here
at
the
city.
But
there's
you
know,
that's
really
the
mayor's
office
and
the
controller's
office
making
those
informing
those
decisions
to
me.
It
doesn't
matter.
I
need
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
operation,
whether
it's
with
100
general
fund,
support
reduction
or
zero
general
fund
support
reduction.
H
B
H
I
First,
a
question
about
the
kind
of
small
ranges
that
are
in
the
current
rates,
as
well
as
the
proposed
different
versions
of
rate
structures.
It
seems
like
costs
for
personnel
and
everything
else
just
rise
over
time.
You
mentioned
the
three
percent
increase
that
we're
seeing
annually
now
for
the
the
haulers.
I
In
addition
to
these
ranges,
you
know
it
seemed
to
last
us
about
five
years
this
this
last
cycle.
Would
it
not
also
make
sense
to
Simply
automatically
increase
the
range
Allowed
by
a
very
small
percentage
each
year
to
just
keep
Pace
with
Rising
costs,
as
like
a
matter
of
course
like
we
do
with
other
things
like
parking
rates,
I.
B
I'm
not
opposed
to
that
that
that
definitely
could
be
built
in.
We
know
where
you
know
whether
it's
the
Personnel
cost
increases
of
the
Union
contract
annually
that
are
going
to
raise
the
costs
of
Sanitation.
We
know
that
there's
going
to
be
it's
likely
that
you
know
Supply
costs
from
what
we're
seeing
inflation
is
not
going
to
let
up
too
much
in
the
near
future,
so
it
certainly
could
be
built
in
and
that's
exactly
why
we
propose.
B
The
current
count
is
just
over
13
500
and
it
varied
May
and
August.
There's
big,
very,
not
big
variations,
but
several
house
100
household
variations,
but
it
averages
right
around
the
13
500..
When
we
did
the
initial
2017
study,
we
thought
it
was
closer
to
15
000
when
we
looked
at
the
hand,
data
and
the
other
data
we
had
at
the
time,
but
we
currently
have
about
the
13
500
active
accounts.
I
B
I
wouldn't
see
one
I'd
have
to
talk
with
some
other
staff
at
the
city.
I
know.
So,
could
you
could
you
kind
of
exp
yeah,
so
how
many
households
aren't,
sir
well
it's
more
about
who?
What
types
of
other
residential,
so
we
serve
units
of
four
or
less
single
family
units
of
four
or
less
so
it
could
be
a
household
with
four
individual
uni.
How
one
address
with
four
individual
units,
and
so
those
are
that's
what
our
threshold
is.
B
We
do
no
commercial
service,
so
we
don't
pick
up
from
Restaurants
non-profits
corporate
industrial,
that's
not
in
our
area
of
service.
We
also
don't
pick
up
from
the
multi-family
of
four
or
more
units.
So
what
we're
probably
able
to
get
is
the
number
of
addresses
we
don't
serve,
but
not
exactly
like
a
number
of
households.
We
don't
serve
I'm
sure
we
could
then
dig
in
you
know
how
many
apartments
are
at
this
location.
B
B
Of
some
sort,
you
know
yeah
I
think
the
answer
is
yes
there,
but
I
also
I
can
think
back
of
some
of
the
comments
we
got
back
in
2017
of
I've
taken
my
trash
to
work
for
25
years
and
I've
never
had
to
pay
for
it.
You
know
so
whether
or
not
they
actually
have
somebody
pick
it
up
from
their
house
or
they
take
it
somewhere
else
or
whatnot
that
that
could
be
factored
in.
I
I
B
Honestly,
not
something
I've
really
mulled
over
in
terms
you
know
so.
First
off
we
would
need
if,
if
we
took
on
trash,
Solid,
Waste
and
Recycling
services
for
all
apartment
complexes,
or
so
we
would
have
to
oh
gosh.
That's
a
huge
one.
Matt
I've
honestly
not
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
that,
because
we've
always
been
limited
by
code
to
serve
four
or
less,
but
now
we're
thinking
about
different
types
of
trucks
that
can
pick
up
dumpsters.
B
C
Hi
Mr
wayson.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Absolutely
I
really
appreciate
those
tables.
I
had
some
questions
following
along
councilmember
Flaherty's
questions
just
about
household
pickups,
but
I
I
think
it
would
be
I
mean
this
is
committee.
The
whole
right
so
like
something
I
do
want
to
see
at
regular
session
next
week
is
more
numbers
around
who
do
we
not
provide
trash
for
because
our
city
is
like
84
000
people
and
the
35,
the
13
500
households
are
going
to
be
a
minority.
C
It
is
a
minority
of
the
trash
that
gets
created
in
Bloomington,
I
mean
most
trash
comes
from
commercial
and
multi-family.
So
just
when
I've
talked
about
like
composting
programs
in
the
past,
like
the
sliver
that
it
would
like
reduce
composting,
if
we're
only
collecting
from
single
family
up
to
four
plexes,
it's
like
very
small,
as
opposed
to
if
we
did
city-wide
composting.
So
it's
just
like
most
of
our
trash
doesn't
come
from
these
households
that
we
service.
C
If
trash
is
a
public
good,
as
some
of
our
council
members
say,
should
we
be
providing
this
to
All
City
residents,
instead
of
only
up
to
four
plexes,
because
most
of
our
folks
live
in
multi-family?
So
is
that
something
we
should
look
at?
Do
you
think
I
know?
You
said
you
haven't
really
mauled
it
over,
but
like
should
we
take
a
look
at
that
as
a
council
just
in
terms
of
equity,
so
that
the
people
who
are
paying
into
the
general
fund
are
also
getting
that
service.
B
C
C
B
C
B
B
B
B
See
that
hang
on
one
second,
all
right,
so
one
of
them
for
trash
pickup,
trash,
weekly,
trash,
pickup
and
bi-weekly
recycle
is
3605
per
month.
That's
one
of
the
private
haulers
and
again
recycling
every
other
week
and
trash
on
the
weekly.
That's
that's
at
36
dollars
per
month,
and
where
did
the
other
one
go?
I
had
two
of
them.
B
C
A
A
Also
according
to
data
I,
have
from
hand.
Let
me
pull
it
up
here.
In
2022,
there
were
11
784
owner
occupied
single-family
units
in
the
city,
4208
rental,
single
family
units,
total
of
almost
16
000
units.
In
addition,
there
were
2792,
duplex,
Triplex,
46
flexing
condo
units,
so
I,
don't
know
how
that
breaks
down,
but
I
do
know
that
there's
at
least
2500,
maybe
three
or
four
thousand
more
units
than
accounts
that
we
have
so.
A
B
B
Well,
we
can
dig
into
that
I'm
certain,
but
with
units
of
four
or
less
a
lot
of
the
four
unit.
Single-Family
residences
have
a
b
c
d.
Is
you
know
it's
three
300
South
Smith,
you
know
a
b
c
and
d.
We
worked
with
landlords
and
Property
Owners.
When
we
did
the
rollout
to
say
what
do
you
need?
We
didn't
force
them
to
take
four
sets
of
trash
carts
for
somewhere.
They
only
wanted
one
set,
so
I
think
that's
going
to
be
some
of
the
discrepancy
there,
but
we
can.
A
G
A
K
K
K
B
A
F
F
F
B
F
So
we
have
this
sort
of
dilemma
right
that
that
that
you
know
you're
you're,
saying
there's
a
correlation
between
the
volume
and
the
weight
and,
to
some
degree
that's
true,
but
you
could
have
people
who
are
using
putting
a
lot
of
food
waste,
for
instance
in
in
the
solid
waste
stream,
which
is
we
should
disincentivize
and
I'm,
trying
to
think
about
how
to
do
that.
Now,
it's
it's
a
difficult
thing
to
get
to,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
we
can
incentivize
composting
and
we're
we're
doing
that
to
some
degree.
F
Sure,
of
course,
but
I
think
that
we
should
maybe
double
double
our
effort
because,
as
somebody
said,
show
me,
the
incentive
and
I'll
show
you
the
outcome
and
I
think
that
if,
unless
we
have
the
incentive
in
place,
we're
probably
going
to
continue
getting,
you
know
is
at
least
as
much
weight
and
that's
really
the
key.
So
it's
sort
of
a
qualmette
I
I
recognize.
But
what
do
you
think
about
that
proposition?.
F
Are
we
doing
enough
to
reduce
the
weight
because
it
seems
to
me
we're
we're
just
saying:
well,
look:
we've,
you
know,
we've
got
this
costs
are
going
up.
So
what
are
we
going
to
do?
Well
we're
going
to
raise
rates,
but
are
we
doing
enough
to
reduce
the
cost?
That
is
the
weight
of
the
Senate
of
the
or
the
end
of
volume?
We're.
B
I
mean
Beyond
promotion
and
messaging
of
how
important
composting
is.
You
know
we're
certainly
doing
that
through
the
recollect
system,
which
is
an
online
system
that
we
get
messaging
out
to
users
of
the
system.
But
you
know
beyond
that.
It's
whether
or
not
the
incentive
for
through
this
program
is
in
the
cart
sizes,
so
the
smaller
the
cart
size.
You
have
the
less
waste
you
produce
and
the
less
you
pay
per
gallon.
B
So
that's
been
the
incentive
program
to
try
to
reduce
the
volumes
and
the
weight
the
volume
and
weight
of
the
trash.
The
solid
waste
we
collect
would
curbside
composting
reduce
the
amount
of
food
waste
that
goes
into
the
waste
stream.
100
yeah,
absolutely
there's
a
there's,
a
cost
to
that,
there's
that's
a
whole
other
crew,
that's
a
whole
other
route
every
day.
That's
you
know
so
well,.
B
Absolutely
and
we've
partnered
on
those
in
the
past,
with
the
Solid
Waste
Management
District,
with
the
commission
on
sustainability.
Certainly,
we've
we've
partnered
on
those
types
of
efforts
where
the
Earth
machines
are
discounted
for
people
to
use
I'm
a
huge
proponent
of
on-site
composting
that
is
the
best
way
to
compost,
is
for
your
food
waste
and
your
yard
waste,
never
to
leave
your
house
or
your
household,
and
so
with
our
reduction
of
the
leafing
services.
That's
a
huge
component
of
that
is
trying
to
encourage
that
on-site
composting.
A
A
F
Okay,
the
other
I
mean
these
are
sort
of
meta
questions,
larger
scale
questions,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
you
know
this
is
a
recurring
problem
and
I
think
it's
one
strategy
is
to
have
our
local
landfill
reopen
and
that's
something
that
I
don't
think.
We've
had
enough
discussion
about,
because
we're
we're
continually
beholden
to
Republic.
F
F
B
I
I
B
Thought
about
I,
I
think
the
rate
the
models
in
The
Proposal
would
certainly
be
able
to
allow
that
allow
for
that
to
occur.
I
think
you
could
very.
You
could
look
at
it
from
the
perspective
of
if
in
year,
one
we
did
a
25
reduction
in
year,
two
we
did
a
or
we
started
at
the.
So
if
we
started
at
the
50
reduction
rate
model
and
your
subsequent
years,
two
and
three
you
could
move
to
75
and
100
reduction
model.
B
I
think
that's
what
this
whole.
That's
part
of
the
whole
reason
we
provided
the
models
as
we
did
to
allow
for
consideration
of
the
council
and
if,
yes,
it
could
be
phased
at
that
point.
If
you
wanted,
if
it
was
the
priority
of
a
majority
of
the
council
in
year
three
to
reduce
the
support
100,
you
could
start
at
50
75
and
go
to
the
hundred.
So
certainly.
I
So
there's
not
sort
of
price
shock,
but
you
know
a
gradual
alignment,
that's
closer
to
peer
cities
or
private
haulers.
Since
we
have
you
know
over
half
of
residents,
also
paying
private
Hollow
rates,
who
aren't
getting
the
subsidy
but
are
in
fact
paying
for
that
subsidy
for
others.
So
I
mean
like
are.
Would
you
be
friendly
to
an
amendment
to
change
the
rate
structure,
to
phase
out
the
subsidy
over
time?
I'm.
I
Hey,
if
I
could
follow
up
I'm
trying
to
understand
too
like
why
this
amount
of
general
fund
subsidy
like
we
could
also
increase
it.
You
could
pay
five
million
dollars
on
the
general
fund
for
sanitation
services
and
eliminate
fees
altogether.
I
mean
if
you
know
the
idea
is
that
no
one
should
pay
for
sanitation,
because
tax
tax
dollars
pay.
For
that,
like
you
know,
I
I
would
say:
we'd
still
have
an
equity
problem
because
we
serve
some
residents
and
not
others.
I
Just
like
we
do
now,
and
that's
why
it's
an
equity
problem
now,
but
I
I
don't
understand.
Do
you
have
any
insight
into
why
a
million
dollars
is
the
level
of
of
that
we've
decided
to
pull
out
of
the
general
fund
to
to
spend
on
this
as
opposed
to
having
rates
cover
costs
like
we
do
with
city
of
Bloomington
utilities
or
or
things
like
other
utilities,.
B
I
think
you
can
see
the
historical
it's
been.
It's
been
around
that
million
dollar
amount
because
of
the
historical
nature
of
it.
That's
what
the
that
historically,
that's
what's
been
budgeted
and
we've
continued
that
year
over
year,
so
it
it's
not
a
pull
it
out
of
a
hat
number.
It's
just
that's
where,
when
we
came
into
the
sanitation,
modernization
era
of
2017,
we
probably
in
previous
years
we're
always
at
about
that
million
dollar
level.
B
I
support
it
I
think
I'd
need
to
speak
with
others
of
the
administration
in
the
mayor's
office
before
I
could
answer
that,
but
I
think
again,
I
think
and
I
hate
to
keep
doing
it.
But
these
are
kind
of
policy
level
decisions
of
the
council,
and
you
know
we
could
have
an
opinion
on
if
we
would
support
it
or
not.
But
in
the
end
it
comes
down
to
what
the
council
wants
to
move
forward
with.
Well.
D
D
D
D
H
B
That
exists
that
exists
today.
We
do
have
a
program
that
we
partner
with
the
South
Central
Community
Action
Program,
with
on
assisting
low-income
residents
with
vouchers
for
their
trash
service.
So
that
does
exist.
We
coordinate
that
through
the
utility
department,
because
I
believe
it
also
can
apply
to
the
water
sewer,
build
as
well
right.
H
B
H
Thank
you,
I
I'm,
you
know
that's
that's
part
of
my
overall
struggle
with
not
subsidizing
it
with
the
general
fund
and
then,
if
there's
individuals
that
may
be
burdened
by
that.
If
there's
any
way
we
can
figure
out
if
I
remember
right,
the
program
was
exhausted
in
certain
of
these
areas
with
utilities
in
in
all,
but
there
really
wasn't
that
much
money
in
the
program,
so
it
didn't
really
serve
that
many
people
so
that
you
know
that's
where.
B
A
Okay,
then
we'll
move
on
any
other
questions.
Second
round
for
members.
I
have
a
few,
let's
see
so
one
of
the
issues
that
I've
heard
a
complaint
about-
and
this
is
a
topic
we
have
yet
to
bring
up
tonight-
is
if
there's
one
thing
I've
heard
about
the
program
since
its
Inception
in
2018
that
people
most
object
to
it's
the
fee
for
changing
a
cart,
okay
and
so
I
wonder
if
the
administration
would
be
amenable
to
waving
the
fee.
If
somebody
is
downsizing
their
cart
because
they're
using
less
trash.
B
B
A
A
B
To
an
EXT,
yes,
but
we
have
to
have
that
other
inventory
to
be
able
to
it
should
make
the
exchange
some
of
the.
We
do
keep
an
inventory
at
all
times,
just
for
the
carts
that
get
broken
or
whatnot,
but
there
is
a
cost
to
The
Exchange
to
the
service
of
an
exchange.
Would
we
be
amenable
to
waving
it
for
a
period
of
time
to
allow
folks
to
consider
changes?
B
I'm
hesitant
there,
because
what
we
experienced
in
2017
was
a
huge
volume
of
switch
outs
very
early
on
in
the
program
when
we
delivered
car.
So
if
you
recall,
if
you
didn't
choose
a
cart
size,
you
got
the
default
minimum
size
when
those
all
got
delivered.
I'd
have
to
pull
the
numbers,
but
I
think
we
made
something
like
15
or
1600
exchanges
from
64
to
35..
We
ran
out
of
35s
had
to
buy
more,
and
then
we
ended
up
with
a
bunch
of
64s
Okay.
A
B
We've
got
a
big
inventory
of
64s.
We've
got
a
very
little
inventory
of
35,
so
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
35,
it's
more
than
likely
we're
going
to
have
to
buy
a
new
cart
and
we
don't
have
the
least
amount
of
users
are
in
the
96
gallon
category.
So
we
don't
we're
not
going
to
see
a
big
decrease
from
96
to
64,
reusing
all
the
new
carts
that
are
made
available
as
64s
because
of
the
exchange.
B
A
B
A
So
then,
why
is
it
such
a
big
deal?
Why
is
that
small
fee,
if
it's
very
low,
it's
like
fares
on
the
buses
we
charge?
We,
maybe
six
percent
of
our
revenues
come
from
buses.
Bus
fares,
you
know,
I
mean.
Can
we
consider
like
having
holidays
where,
during
this
window,
it's
free
to
change
carts
or
you
can
change
card
for
the
first
year
after
your
newly
occupying
an
address
to
see
if
you
need
bigger
or
smaller
I.
G
Yes,
happily,
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
ordinance,
please
let
us
know
by
using
the
raise
hand,
feature
which
you
can
find
in
your
control
bar
under
the
reactions
button
or
the
more
button.
You
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak.
L
Thank
you
Council.
This
is
Christopher
mg,
not
of
the
chamber.
The
name
tag
is
the
way
this
is
as
a
Sunny
Slope
Citizen
Homeowner
of
11
years.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
Adam
wayson
for
the
presentation
very
informative.
He
is
worth
the
pay
grade
of
the
public
works
that
he's
getting.
He
does
a
fine
job
and
sanitation
does
a
fine
job
when
they
modernize
six
years
ago.
I
think
it
was
a
great
deal
for
the
city.
L
I've
been
really
impressed
with
the
service,
but
at
the
that
time,
I
thought
it
was
a
little
low
as
far
as
the
costs
go.
So
it
just
seems
like
odd
timing
that
all
of
a
sudden,
this
million
dollars
subsidy
that
we're
that
we're
paying
into
it
is
a
problem
which
should
have
kind
of
been
done
with
the
lid
increase.
At
that
time,
I
mean
we
are
asking
philosophical
questions
and
I'll
repeat
what
what
Mr
wayson
said
is:
how
much
should
the
general
fund
be
to
subsidize
garbage
and
recycling
collection?
L
Well,
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
recycling
should
be
subsidized
and
we
should
be
promoted
and
maybe
some
other
food
waste
and
some
other
other
means
of
lowering
our
trash.
But
that's
what
it
comes
down
to
and
I
think
the
sticker
shock
is
where
I
think
we
worked
a
little
bit
too
low
in
those
charges
when
we
modernized
six
years
ago
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
we're
hearing
God,
why
should
we?
You
know
the
subsidy
is
too
big?
L
Well
I
mean
it's
just
an
odd
timing
issue
that
I
have
I
I,
don't
have
any
problems
paying
more
I
think
we
probably
should
be
paying
more
and
I
think
the
structure
we
have
as
far
as
the
gallons
is
is
very
constructive
and
one
that
I
think
has
been
really
really
well
thought
out.
It's
just
how
much
we
should
be
doing
that
right
away.
I
think
we
have
to
ask
ourselves:
is
that
essential,
especially
after
that
Lit
increase?
L
You
know
a
year
ago,
so
I
don't
really
have
an
opinion
myself
on
where
you
should
on
the
five
options.
I,
just
you
know,
an
increase
definitely
has
been
proven
by
Mr
wayson
as
far
as
costs
go,
and
then
you
need
a
philosophical
discussion
on
what
should
that
subsidy
be
from
the
general
fund.
I
don't
have
that
answer,
but
that
answer
should
come
in
due
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
M
Astins
with
the
b-square
bulletin,
I
wanted
to
start
by,
following
up
on
a
question
that
council
member
Flaherty
asked
about
the
possibility
of
an
automatic
escalation
of
the
range
endpoints
that
is
key
to
CPI
or
something.
So.
Why
really?
Is
there
a
range
at
all
so
related
question?
Is
there
any
mechanism
in
the
ordinance
to
ensure
that
future
increases
approved
by
Public
Works,
the
Board
of
Public
Works?
That
is,
that
ensures
that
there's
in
some
sense
proportional?
M
M
Why
not
just
have
an
automatic
escalator
every
year
for
a
given
price
point
per
cart,
sort
of
a
second
kind
of
question:
what
is
the
logic
behind
making
the
rate
Progressive
with
respect
to
the
amount
per
gallon,
so
the
new
rate
structures
are
in
fact
Progressive.
The
old
ones
were
not
so
I
understand
that
income
tax
is
done
on
a
progressive
scale
and
there's
a
there's,
a
logic
and
a
rationale
to
that.
But
this
is
not
income
tax.
This
is
trash.
M
So
it
seems
like
it's
making
an
odd
judgment
about
household
size
following
up
on
a
remark
about
from
director
waston
that
recycling
isn't
free.
Well,
of
course,
that's
right,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
the
conscious
policy
choice
in
the
past
was
not
to
charge
City
trash
customers
for
their
curbside
recycling
and,
in
fact,
I
think
that
could
be
the
basic
explanation
for
why
the
level
of
the
subsidy
turns
out
to
be
roughly
a
million
dollars
and
not
some
other
number.
M
M
So
back
of
the
napkin
it
looks
to
me
like
the
50
proposal
that
director
wayson
has
put
forward,
would
completely
cover
the
cost
of
trash
collection,
but
would
maintain
a
subsidy
for
curbside
recycling.
So
it
would
be
great
to
get
confirmation
of
that
or,
if
that's
not
right,
then
it
would
be
great
to
get
a
breakdown
of
what
the
required
rate
increase
would
be
to
cover
the
whole
cost
of
trash
collection
and
wow.
I
didn't
talk
quite
fast
enough.
Dang.
A
To
my
left
to
my
right,
I
guess:
it's
me
then
Professor
baralo
asked
a
question
about
reopening
the
landfill.
I
have
always
believed
that
it
would
be
good
to
reopen
the
landfill,
for
the
same
reason
that
any
logic
behind
us
doing.
Sanitation
is
good,
that
it
would
allow
us
to
control
the
means
of
disposal
and
it
will
be
publicly
accountable.
Most
importantly,
the
landfill
would
be
closer
and
it
would
reduce
our
carbon
footprint.
A
Let's
I
don't
want
to
call
it
extraordinary,
but
it
would
be
very
significant
and
while
I
do
favor
it
I,
don't
know
how
it
would
get
it
done.
I
will
point
out,
though,
that
romkey
is
now
offering
the
services
of
a
second
transfer
station
here
in
the
county
and
they
are
transporting
their
their
the
the
garbage
they
collect
to
their
landfill
in
Medora,
which
is
I
want
to
say,
36
miles
away
from
Bloomington,
whereas
or
37,
maybe
whereas
the
Sycamore
Ridge
Landfill,
where
we're
currently
having
our
threshold
is
66
miles
away.
A
So
just
from
that
perspective,
it
seems
like
we're
going
to
have
an
interest
in
seeing
the
bid
that
Rumpke
comes
up
with,
but
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
sanitation
is
a
collective
term.
Even
though
they're
doing
services
like
trash
and
recycling,
people
are
still
paying
for
one
thing:
they're
not
paying
a
la
carte
if
you'll,
forgive
the
pun,
in
the
same
way
that
while
we
had
three
different
rates
for
waste,
water
and
storm,
water
utility
still
sends
one
bill
and
you
have
to
pay
one
one
bill.
A
I
mean
we
had
a
similar
issue
with
parking,
although
for
the
different
nature
of
the
solution
for
30
years,
we
for
what's
the
past
tense
of
forego
for
bore
parking
meters,
and
the
demand
was
so
through
the
roof
for
parking
that
when
we
put
meters
in
30
years
later,
there
was
not
a
significant
reduction
in
the
use
of
parking,
but
there
were
2.2
million
hours
of
parking
paid
for
in
the
first
year.
That's
been
a
pretty
consistent
number,
it's
only
gone
up
since
then.
A
That's
the
demand
for
parking
and
we
haven't
raised
rates
in
10
years,
and
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
that
too.
But
this
program
has
taken
five
or
six
years
to
reach
equilibrium.
We
were
when,
when
Mr
wayson
has
been
consistently
reminding
us
of
2017
and
we
were
supposed
to
be
reevaluating
in
2020
that
the
pandemic
struck,
and
so
it's
taken
a
while
to
figure
out
and
we
found
a
new
equilibrium
for
a
while,
with
an
increase
in
home
trash
that
the
city
took
a
responsibility
for.
A
So
you
know
I
think
it's
time
to
record
with
that
cost.
If,
for
no
other
reason
than
to
answer
councilman
rolla's
question
well,
it's
important
that
we
get
organic
material
out
of
the
waste
stream.
We
could
be
using
the
money.
That's
in
that's
that's
going
to
the
subsidy
to
pay
to
set
up
to
make
composting
as
easy
as
possible
for
us
to
collect
composting
by
curbside
okay.
So
it's
not
so
much
that
we're
subsidizing
the
sanitation
program.
A
It's
what
services
we're
offering
in
the
program
that
we're
subsidizing
that,
if
we're
going
to
subsidize
anything,
we
should
subsidize
getting
organic
material
out
of
the
waste
stream.
So
I'm
interested
in
some
kind
of
carve
out
that
takes
some
portion
of
the
increase
in
fees
and
mandates
that
it
be
used
to
to
compost
more
or
to
remove
organic
material
from
the
waste
stream
and
I'm
going
to
work
on
an
amendment
like
that
over
the
the
next
week.
Maybe
councilman
Flaherty
will
join
me
in
it,
but
I
I
think
that
it's
overdue
that
we
address
it.
A
A
E
E
What
we're
faced
with
is
dealing
with
the
fact
that
sanitation
is
a
public
good.
So
this
talk
about
equity
and
it's
not
fair
for
certain
people
who
don't
get
the
benefit
of
it,
but
yet
who
are
still
paying
taxes
I'm
not
buying
that
argument,
because
picking
up
our
garbage
and
our
trash
is
a
common
good.
E
It's
a
public
good
and
it's
something
that
I
think
the
public
has
the
Lion's
Share
of
the
responsibility
to
make
sure
as
many
households
as
we
can
possibly
accommodate,
get
their
garbage
picked
up,
because
without
that
it
is
not
a
sanitation.
We
don't
have
sanitation
in
the
city,
which
is
good
for
everybody,
so
to
the
extent
that
we
do
subsidize
it
as
a
public
good
I
believe
in
that
I
think
we
should
do
everything
in
our
power
to
keep
the
costs
down
for
consumers
these.
These
have
been
tough
years
for
people
very
tough
years.
E
We've
been
through
a
pandemic
costs
are
going
up,
we're
in
a
world
of
food
costs
going
up.
We
have
raised
income
taxes,
property
taxes
have
gone
up,
my
home
insurance
went
up
and
people
are
on
fixed
incomes
and
I
think
we
do
have
a
responsibility
to
our
our
constituents
to
be
mindful
of
everything
we
can
do
to
contain
the
cost
to
be
efficient
and
to
not
keep
adding
fee
after
fee
after
fee.
E
We're
being
asked
again
for
our
school
system
to
ask
for
another
referendum,
and
at
what
point
do
we
tap
our
people
to
a
point
where
it's
it
becomes
unsustainable
for
them?
So
I
find
myself
in
a
dilemma.
If
I
were
to
support
any
of
the
five
options,
it
would
be
the
first
one
that
continues
a
public
subsidy
for
sanitation
as
a
public
good
with
as
minimal
amount
of
a
fee
increase,
as
we
can
possibly
inflict
on
the
public.
E
I
Yeah,
first
of
all,
just
utility
services
are
not
public
goods,
just
definitionally
they're,
not
public
goods
in
economics
terms,
if
they
were
public
goods,
it'd
be
pretty
funny
that
you
know
I,
think
we
mean
public
benefit
of
some
kind,
but
it's
funny
that
if
we
think
that's
the
case
and
so
important
that
we
only
give
that
to
a
subset
of
the
members
of
our
community
and
decide
to
exclude
others
from
that.
That's
the
equity
issue.
It's
not
that
we
don't
want.
I
G
No
correction
on
that
point:
I
did
just
want
to
point
out
as
written.
The
ordinance
includes
rates
that
would
reflect
a
50
reduction
in
the
general
fund,
support
for
sanitation
services.
So
without
any
amendments,
that's
the
ordinance,
that's
in
front
of
you,
so
any
do
pass.
Recommendation
would
be
on
that
price.
Those
price
ranges.
A
A
Certainly
we
should
be
trying
to,
but
we,
more
importantly,
are
supposed
to
be
ensuring
the
general
welfare
for
all
citizens,
regardless
of
whether
they
are
consumers
or
not
we're
not
just
here
to
be
consumer
Advocates.
The
citizens
of
Bloomington
are
not
merely
consumers,
but
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
under
this
proposal,
well,
according
to
Mr
wayson,
the
typical
private
cost
of
Sanitation
to
a
single
family
home,
it's
around
36
dollars
a
month.
A
Well,
we
keep
getting
distracted
by
the
96
gallon
figure
in
the
new
chart,
which
is
right
around
36
dollars.
That's
the
50
thing,
but
we
also
heard
from
Mr
wayson
that
the
vast
majority
of
people
have
the
smallest
cart
so
for
most
people,
they're
getting
sanitation
service
at
a
third
of
the
cost
of
private
hauling.
That's
great
and
I
take
the
idea
that
in
multi-family
housing
there's
going
to
be
some
more
efficiencies,
but
there
are
new
costs
involved
with
an
apartment,
building
managing
trash.
A
The
point
that
Mr
Flaherty
is
making
I
think
is
that
everyone
in
the
city
should
be
able
to
benefit
from.
Even
if
we've
raised
the
rates
to
the
maximum
eliminate
the
general
fund
subsidy
altogether.
The
35
gallon
card
is
going
to
be
the
one
that
most
people
take
and
that's
what
was
the
price
on
it?
30
13
I.
Don't
have
it
in
front
of
me
now,
but
it
was
still
much
much
lower
than
the
cost
of
private
hauling
and
every
citizen
in
the
city
should
benefit
from
it.
A
So
yeah,
no
I
too,
don't
want
to
end
sanitation
I
either
we
expand
it
to
everybody
and
we
start
taking
on
all
trash
hauling
in
the
city
or
we
eliminate
the
part
that
the
people
in
the
city
who
don't
get
to
benefit
from
it
are
also
having
to
pay
the
subsidy.
With
that
I'll
entertain
a
motion
on
the
ordinance.