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A
A
You
unanimously
improved
in
our
governance
section.
We
still
are
tweaking
a
little
couple
things
in
the
in
the
support
agreement
and
wanted
to
make
sure
before
we
officially
adopted
and
prove
it
that
they're
there
any
more
questions
from
the
board
members.
We
get
those
answers,
so
I'll
open
it
up
for
any
of
our
board
members
to
ask
questions
about
our
existing
modified,
supporting.
C
Change
was
to
substitute
in
a
dispute
resolution
provision
in
section
7,
for
what
earlier
was
there
that
talked
about
people
would
want
to
give
your
party
in
litigation,
be
able
to
obtain
attorney
fees
as
a
result
of
successful
litigation.
This
much
more
I
think
I
have
appropriately
reflects
the
nature
of
the
relationship
and
how
we
would
go
about
it.
So.
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A
C
Straightforward
example
of
such
a
policy
that
actually
aren't
also
a
non-profit,
The,
Corporation
Council
shared
with
us
and
suggested
for
this
body,
and
that
we
basically
adapted
for
its
use
and
it's
pretty
straightforward.
It
states
purpose
of
the
policies
to
protect
the
interests
of
the
organization
when
it's
looking
at
an
interim
into
a
transactional
Arrangement.
That
might
in
fact
benefit
a
private
interest
of
their
own,
sir,
or
a
director
of
your
organization
thought
or
also
resulted
up
in
excess.
But
and
basically
it's
a
it's.
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A
policy
of
the
organization
there,
our
applicable
state
and
federal
laws,
can
that
be
apply
in
any
given
case
and
perspective
particular
transaction.
But
this
really
sets
out
what
should
suffice
to
deal
with
about
what's
issues
from
in
Indiana
standpoint,
and
it
basically
says
if
you're
a
director
principal
officer,
a
member
of
a
committee
that
has
delimited
powers
and
you
have
a
financial
interest
directly
or
directly
or
indirectly
and
that's
defined
in
here
then
you're
an
interested
person.
And
then
what
you
would
do
is
disclose.
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C
So
that's
an
initial
of
what
the
policy
says
and
then
the
definition,
financial
interest,
homes
and
all
sorts
of
things
or
are
of
interest
to
this
policy
and
if
a
person
or
their
family
has
a
director
in
Direct
business
or
investment
into
a
family
interest,
ownership,
interest
or
investment
interest
with
an
entity
that
they're
looking
to
do
business
with
some
kind
of
compensation
arrangement.
With
someone
that
the
organization
is
transacting
with.
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A
Okay,
so
there's
a
procedure
in
article
three
that
speaks
to
how
we
would
entertain.
One
of
these
I
think
first,
we'll
adopt
the
policy
some
practice
for
our
board,
but
that's
acceptable
to
everyone
we'll
vote
on
that
moment,
and
then
we
have
a
real
world
one
to
discuss
so
as
I
understand
the
procedure
that
is
done
in
this
forum.
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Yes,
with
the
person
choosing
to
present
or
not
the
person
in
this
case,
that's
disclosed
to
me
that
they
think
they
have
an
interest
that
should
be
explored
and
and
then
that
person
gives
a
room
and
we
we,
the
rest
of
the
board
members.
Take
a
vote.
Is
that
accurate?
Yes,
okay,
all
right
so
first
thing
first,
is
to.
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That
the
directors
would
sign
a
conflict
in
his
policy,
so
we're
just
going
to
have
a
policy,
but
not
everyone's,
going
to
sign
it
to
send
them,
received
it
and
agreed
to
yeah.
So
the
typical
thing
service,
science,
City
boards
and
commissions,
it
has
been
that
people
do
annual
disclosures
and
just
kind
of
state
generally.
What
they're
outside
judicial
interests
are,
that
might
have
some
relevance
to
what
they're
doing
in
connection
with
a
particular
border
position
and
so
I
think
that's
probably
what
you're
thinking
about
things
right.
That.
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C
That
it's
really
a
more
away
analysis
meeting
by
reading
and
signing
something
I
mean
the
way
I
see
it.
Work
in
practice
is
people
sign
things
and
then
they
may
be
attentive
to
that
or
around
the
year,
but
it
also
feels
the
perform
and
exercise
and
by
the
way
we
chase
people
down
throughout
the
years
when
we
get
them
to
actually
do
their
disclosures,
and
sometimes
we
never
get
them.
So
that
feels
a
little
bit
more
like
and
formalistic
exercise.
I
actually
think
this
is
with
an.
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C
Because
it's
just
a
reminder
and
you're
looking
at
that,
every
time
you're
engaging
in
it
business
or
cbci.
Just
like
any
words,
you
know
every
time
you
get
something
likewise
to
sit
on
the
plane,
commission
and
every
time
I
got
a
packet
I'm
thinking
do
I
have
any
relationship
to
any
of
this
facility.
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C
Typically,
how
it's
defined
is-
and
we
can
add
a
definition
or
certainly
amendment
to
make
that
clearer,
but
typically
how
it's
definitely
accomplished.
Policies
is
a
spouse
and
anyone
else
who
is
a
financial
dependent.
So
if
you
have
a
family
member
who's,
a
financial
competitive
like
children
who
are
still
in
the
home,
the
idea
being
that
they've
got
an
information
as.
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D
Okay
and
then
my
second
question
is
I,
don't
know
if
this
would
be
kind
of
supported
in
other
documents
other
than
this
one.
But
what
would
the
procedure
be
if
someone
failed
to
disclose
because
the
document
places
the
burden
of
it
just
explains
the
procedure
in
expectation
that
people
comply
I'm,
just
kind
of
curious.
What
would
happen
you
know?
What
would
the
procedure
be
if
someone
didn't
or
forgot
or
something
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
why
but
I'm
just
kind
of
curious.
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D
But
it
sounds
like
this
is
a
kind
of
a
pretty
standard,
Disclosure
document
that
or
conflict
of
interest,
Disclosure
document
that
you
use
in
in
other
contexts
and
so
I
guess.
My
final
question
would
be
have
there
been
examples
of
issues
where
this
hasn't
been
followed
or
someone
failed
to
disclose
on
other
boards
and
commissions
and
how
that
was
how
that
process
was
handled
in
those
instances.
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I
am
not
aware
of
myself
of
a
failure
to
this,
which
might
constitute
a
conflict
of
interest
that
what
you
know
involved
some
of
this
decision
making
or
participation
in
decision
on
a
border
commission
that
may
have
happened
in
the
past
I'm
familiar
with
it.
So
so
I
can't
really
speak
to
that.
I
will
say,
as
I
said
before,
there
we've
actually
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
in
the
legal
department
just
trying
to
chase
down
people
to
get
the
annual
disclosures
signed.
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C
Doesn't
mean
that
they
haven't
signed
one
and
that
they
have
some
outside
of
financial
interest.
That
poses
a
problem
which
is
literally,
if
you
will
not
following
the
process,
and
that
has
been
a
headache
and
to
my
knowledge,
hasn't
really
resulted
in
anyone
getting
off
the
board
or
anything
like
that.
That's
what
that
sort
of
impact
so
yeah.
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B
A
We
understand
what
that
means
that
which
I
suppose
we
could
act
on
the
document.
If
people
were
comfortable
with
saying,
we
would
just
anticipate
the
amendment
to
reflect
a
definition
that
that
just
discussed
or
you're
not
comfortable
with
that
we
can
push
it
back
two
weeks
and
adopt
it.
Then
so
I'll
leave
it
to
the
board
members
as
to
how
you'd
like
to
proceed
with
the
acceptance
of
a
potential
amendment
to
and
an
adoption,
and
then
the
conflict
of
interest
policy
problem
I
think
we
are.
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C
That's
totally
fine
I'm,
looking
at
the
was
just
pulling
up
the
definition
under
the
state
law
that
applies
to
state
employees,
for
example.
It's
interesting
dependence
It's,
usually
the
employer,
their
dependence.
That
would
be
the
spouse,
the
public
servant
into
child
step,
child
or
adoptee,
who
is
unemancipated
in
less
than
18
years
of
age,
an
individual
more
than
one
hand
whose
support
was
provided
during
the
year
by
the
public
servant.
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B
B
C
How
is
it
defined
in
Brooklyn
through
the
service
number
I,
think
it's
definitely
similarly
or
where
it's
interest
disclosures
that
they
have
to
make
those
are
violent
in
the
state
of
Indiana,
as
opposed
to
boarding,
commission
members
and
volunteers.
If
you
have
a
city
employee
who
actually
has
a
potential
conflict
of
interest
and
they
file
a
form
and
that
is
actually
sent
up.
It's
signed
so
reviewed
approved,
handle
that
there's
a
potential
conflict
and
then
that
no
one
was
actually
signed
and
sent
out
to
the
state
with
us.
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B
A
There's
any
other
questions
about
the
proposed
amendment:
to
have
Beth
write
the
family
definition
and
I
think
we've
discussed
what
we've
now
think
some
of
the
Nuance
of
family
is
and
she'll
use
the
state
version
of
the
family
definition
for
the
amended
document.
So
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
amend
the
document
adopt
the
document
with
the
amendment
at
this
meeting.
Knowing
that
the
amendment
has
started
writing
yet
until
it
happens.
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B
A
A
The
West
is
on
our
committee.
That's
reviewing
RFI
responses.
We
have
not
made
any
decisions
yet
that
group
is
not
ready
to
make
any
recommendations.
However,
John
called
me
and
said
he
may
have
potential
interest
and
he
wanted
to
disclose
that,
and
now
we
have
an
official
policy
for
that
to
take
place
in
the
procedure.
So
I'm
too,
like
to
explain
your
interest
in
how
that
might
be
impacted.
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Virtually
everyone
in
some
way
I'm
not
currently
under
contract
with
any
of
them,
but
most
likely
launching
business
at
least
one
of
them
again
may
not
be
the
one
being
awarded
to
do
so.
It'll
be
a
good
point,
but
this
is
going
to
come
up
all
the
time.
You
know
almost
virtually
every
two
weeks
we're
going
through
this
conversation.
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C
E
I
I
I've
had
business
relationships
with
all
of
I.
Don't
currently
have
contact
and
I'm
not
doing
business.
Okay,
contractually
I'm,
not
doing
business
with
any
of
them
today,
but
I
have
done
at
some
level,
but
that's
not
all
the
same
type
of
business
that
I've
done,
but
I've
done
virtually
everybody
there.
That's
you
know
at.
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C
Correctly,
he's
done
business
with
the
folks
who
have
responded
to
the
RFI
and
emphasis
with
them
in
the
past,
meaning
that
as
housing
gets
developed
at
some
point,
we
may
be
sought
to
help,
sell
that
and
then
make
money
in
the
marketplace.
At
that
point,
and
that's
happens,
you
know
if
those
relationships
are
more
or
less
equivalent
across
those
three
I.
C
Don't
know
that
there
would
be
any
reason,
especially
with
everything
so
attenuated
around
so
much
someone
decided
I,
don't
know
that
I
would
necessarily
see
that
as
a
conflict,
I
think
that
policy
contemplates
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
coming
for
you,
in
other
words
at
least
an
existing
relationship
on
the
one
in
one
piece
is
nailed
down.
This
feels
like
both
white
boards
and
he's
made
the
disclosure,
but
it's
really
up
to
you.
I
mean
you
need
to
feel
comfortable
with
the
impartiality
of
everyone,
who's
evaluating
those
responses.
C
So
that's,
ultimately
the
modern
woman.
That's
why
I
asked
the
question
I
did
because
I
I
wanted
to
establish
that
he
has
that
there
he
has
worked
with
all
of
them
at
some
point.
There's
not
one
in
particular
that
you
know
he
has
done
they
all
three
are
equal
in
that
sense
and
that
he
currently
does
not
have
any
work
or
contract
signed
with
anyone.
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B
C
A
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C
It
is,
as
he
says,
I
mean
it's
sort
of
what
always
tends
to
raise
potential
complexes
on
the
one
thing
you're
trying
to
get
someone
who's
very
familiar
with
the
landscape
of
the
one
you're
doing.
On
the
other
hand,
that
means
Elvis,
inevitably,
especially
in
the
small
place
in
Wilmington
you're,
going
to
have
some
history
of
relationships
with
people,
and
then
he's
been
very
open
about
this.
So.
D
Yes,
I
agree
with
the
kind
of
what's
been
said
in
the
room.
It
seems
I
certainly
appreciate
that
it
seems
like
John,
is
operating
under
an
abundance
of
caution
to
bring
this
to
our
attention.
It
doesn't
seem
to
require
disclosure,
given
the
policy
that
we
just
voted
to
put
in
place,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
he
is
really
thinking
about
trying
to
over
disclose,
rather
than
under
disclose.
D
That
being
said,
I
think,
given
what
many
people
in
the
room
have
already
articulated.
It
seems
like
it's
fine
to
kind
of
have
him
go
forward
at
this
time
without
sort
of
any
kind
of
mitigation
requirements
on
him.
I.
Don't
think
that
this
Rises
to
the
level
of
needing
to
require
him
to
recuse
himself
or
anything
like
that.
A
I
think
everyone's
had
their
say
and
if
not
Now's
the
Time
to
to
conclude
that
discussion,
any
other
feedback
on
this
yeah
and
then
I
I,
concur
with
the
comments
from
the
Lord
I
think
that
Mr
Weston,
all
the
best
reasons,
disclose
this
in
the
in
the
right
way
and
in
advance
in
concerned
or
not
wanting
to
to
have
a
potential
conflict.
I,
don't
think
there
is
one
in
this
case
he
has
no
current
contract
with
any
of
them.
A
If
you
were
to
enter
into
one,
he
would
tell
us
right
away,
and
then
we
could
take
action
at
that
phase,
but
he
has
no
current
business
interest
with
any
of
them
and
to
me
that
means
he
meets
the
policy,
the
intent
of
our
policy,
so
I'm
very
comfortable
with
saying
let
him
continue
on
in
his
role
at
the
moment.
It's
just
this
is
for
the
public
period
is
simply
to
be
on
our
Review
Committee.
A
That
will
make
a
recommendation
on
potentially
one
of
the
respondents
to
the
phase
one
Biz
that
we
received,
which
then
still
has
to
go
not
just
to
this
board
but
to
the
development.
So
we're
far
from
at
a
point
where
final
decision
is
made
and
we
don't
even
get
to
make
it
so
I
think
I-
think
we're
well
within
our
Comfort
level,
of
allowing
Mr
West
to
continue
on
and
help
advisors.
A
D
A
A
A
A
Okay,
we
will
now
move
on
to
the
Hopewell
section
of
our
agenda,
both
if
you
need
to
go.
That's
that's
what
you
buy.
I
mean
Scott,
we'll
get
you
in
here
right
away
after
Beth,
so
Deb
and
I
have
a
real,
quick,
RDC
meeting
update
to
deliver
on
that
Scott.
You
can
present
to
us
climb
across
the
table,
so
I
know
Monday
May,
1st
I
went
on
behalf
of
this
board.
A
We
developed
a
commission
to
show
them
our
reporting
lines,
document
that
those
two
Graphics
that
we've
been
tweaking
to
sort
of
introduce
that
to
them
How,
We,
believe
We
interface
with
them,
and
the
administration
I
thought
that
went
well.
That
was
there.
They
asked
really
good
questions,
but
they
clearly
understand
how
we
can
help
how
our
role
will
allow
for
them
not
to
have
to
manage
projects
moving
forward
at
Hopewell
that
they
still
continue
to
do
what
they've
always
done.
A
Whole
plan
disperse
the
plan
approved
funds,
the
Redevelopment
of
land,
but
they
did
not
want
to
have
anything
to
do
with
managing
the
project
like
like
our
entity,
will
be
doing
at
some
point
in
the
future.
So
they're
very
appreciative,
I
thought
there
was
value
in
that,
and
that
was
the
introduction
to
them
and
then
later
dad
made
a
report
on
other
activities.
I'll.
Let
you
share
that
and
what
happened
at
that
section
of
the
RDC.
C
Meeting
so
let
me
take
just
an
overall
update
we've
done.
We
did
that
in
February
and
we're
going
to
try
to
do
that
once
a
quarter
just
to
make
sure
everybody's
up
to
speed
and
because
there's
a
lot
happening
all
the
time
in
that
we
had
also
been
working
on
a
record
budget,
reconciliation
and
interior.
For
some
of
you
are
very
familiar
with
the
fact
that
what
a
project
is
created.
It
has
a
it's
called
a
project
review
form
and
a.
B
C
Review
for
really
sets
more
steadily
than
the
budget
from
a
these
are
the
uses
that
we're
going
to
have,
but
it
also
sets
for
the
women's
versus,
and
so
we
did,
an
update
to
them
identified
had
some
Council
early
council
with
Cindy
learning
on
that,
and
they
really
wanted
to
see.
You
know
what's
coming
for
the
next
couple
of
years,
right.
C
I
know
we
had
other
things
on
the
agenda
today,
but
in
two
weeks
Nick
I
might
suggest
we
bring
more
detail
back,
but
what
we
did
is
we
projected
out
what
we
think
the
next
couple
of
years
are
including
the
development
owners
rep
right,
including
increased
security,
which
is
another
question
that
I'll
bring
it
to
you
that
Jackson
Street
just
go.
You
know
so
there's
like
a
number
of
things
that
continue
to
be
identified
in
that,
with
the
fix
that
we
had
as
well
as
the
increases.
C
The
Redevelopment
commission
did
agree
to
shift
from
a
25
million
dollar
tip
commitment
to
a
30
million
dollar
tip
commitment,
For,
Hopewell
and
we'll
we
can
show
you
as
until
as
great
a
detail
as
you
would
like
to
talk
to
talk
about
in
a
minute.
The
one
thing
we
did
clarify
with
them
is
that
that
does
not
include
if
any
future
infrastructure
needs
to
be
accomplished
by
the
city,
any
other
New
Roads.
You
know,
of
course,
we're
trying
to
get
the
developer
to
do
it.
It's
going
to
be
difficult.
C
We
acknowledge
very
difficult,
but
that's
a
whole
different
ballgame,
but
as
far
as
everything
else
that
we
need
to
do,
we
think
that's
going
to
get
us
through
the
next
year,
so
again,
kind
of
that's
a
high
level
of
what
we
did.
We
had
founding
support
from
the
emergency
to
move
that
forward,
but
they
did
ask
an
interesting
question
and-
and
that
was
why
are
you
paying
for
security?
Why
don't
we
just
demolish
some
of
those
buildings?
They're
going
to
be
gone
anyway?
C
That
is
something
and
I
think
it's
a
super
valid
question
and
one
that
we
definitely
need
to
explore.
So
that
is
one
of
the
follow-up
items
that
we're
going
to
have
and
frankly,
the
developers
want
the
buildings
down
as
well.
Now
the
question
will
be
for
those
of
you
who
are
really
into
the
details
here:
714
South
Rogers.
There
is
at
least
one
proposal
who
is
proposing
to
reduce
that.
So
do
we
take
that
one
down
or
just
the
others,
but
you
know
rather
than
continue
to
pay
for
security.
Let's
just
release
heavier
security.
C
C
In
addition
to
that,
the
owner's
development
rep,
as
you
all
know,
sir
hope
you've
been
on
the
committee.
We
have
five.
We
interviewed
five.
We
shortlisted
to
two.
We
have
been.
We
interviewed
them
twice.
We
have
more
information,
I've
talked
to
them
many
many
times
almost
daily,
but
I
think
we
are
friendly
at
a
point
where
we
are
getting
very
close
to
having
a
good
fee
negotiated
with
them
and
a
schedule
of
how
they're
going
to
do
their
work.
C
So,
if
all
goes
well,
we
are
planning
to
on
the
May
15th.
Redevelopment
commission
is
have
a
presentation
by
of
the
proposed
vendor
and
then
that
would
then
potentially
probably
lead
into
a
con.
Everything
goes
well.
There
will
lead
into
a
contract
on
June
5th,
so
it
may
be
good
I,
don't
know
if
the
you.
C
A
It'll
be
a
two-step
process
and
because
we're
still
in
discussions
with
our
final
two
response,
we're
not
disclosing
their
names
publicly
because
you're
still
negotiating
and
that
hopefully
will
be
something
that
is
ready
for
public
feedback
on
the
15th.
So
maybe
put
on
your
calendars,
watching
that
already
sleeping
and
getting
here
glimpse
of
what
the
recommended
vendor
might
might
be
proposing
that
high
and.
C
A
E
And
I
don't
want
to
get
to
walking
the
planning
talk,
so
I'll
try
to
keep
it
short,
there's,
probably
more
slides
that
I
need
to
show.
Sir,
can
you
see
that,
hopefully
okay?
So
this
is
a
aerial
view
of
the
former
Hospital
neighborhood
outlined
in
black?
Is
the
overlay
boundary
so
TRL
stands
for
transform
Redevelopment
overlay,
so
we're
transforming
the
area.
Now.
The
idea
behind
this
overlay
is,
it
could
be
used
in
other
areas
in
the
community,
so
the
main
commission
council
could
adopt
the
true
diet
elsewhere,
at
least
it's
a
good
Community.
E
The
first
start
appears
in
the
Hopewell
neighborhood
zoning.
We
have
our
zoning
districts
and
they
all
have
their
base
standards
and
with
the
tro
or
the
overlay
does,
is
essentially
creates
a
uniform
zoning
standard
for
the
areas
that
overlay
applies.
So
even
though
we
have
underlining
zoning,
which
is
highlighted
here
with
the
MN,
which
is
mixed-use
medium
scale,
Mi
mixed
use,
institutional
and
RN
residential
multi-haling
that
are
within.
D
E
Overlay,
the
cro
overlay
went
through
the
standards
and
tried
to
unify
them
so
that
they're
consistent
with
a
more
urban
context
than
maybe
some
of
those
underlying
zoning
districts.
I
also
highlighted
the
R4
residential
power
or
that's
our
kind
of
small
lot.
It
was
additional
District,
that's
within
the
Hopewell
neighborhood.
It's
not
included
within
the
norm.
Delay
for
two
reasons.
E
One
of
the
artboard
is
the
smallest
most
flexible
residential
district
in
that
portion
of
Hopewell
is
where
we
mostly
envisioned
row
houses
in
smaller
residential
types,
where
you're
not
going
to
see
the
mixed-use
uses
the
multi-story
buildings
that
we
would
see
in
the
rest
of
sites.
So
that's
why
that
portions
excluded
from
the
other
lane,
so
our
core.
A
Includes
blocks
eight
nine
and
ten
are
just
two
Nine
and
Nine
again.
That
must
mean
that
the
714
is
the
one.
That's
not
in
our
that's
the
RN
District.
Thank
you
right
next
year,
so
the
714
building
brutalist
building
is
out
of
it.
It's
an
RM
correct.
The
other
two
blocks
are
in
R4
yeah
all
right.
Thank
you.
Nick
passes
the
test.
E
So
with
that
MLA
District,
we
had
to
recognize
because
it's
under
the
ownership
of
ncc's
SC
historic
nature
that
because
of
the
overlay,
remembered
the
overlay
kind
of
removes
that
and
creates
a
uniform
district
for
everybody.
What
we
could
have
done
is
we
could
have
just
gone
through
and
rezone
the
solar
engine,
it's
a
different
zoning
District,
but
the
overlay
essentially
does
that.
Does
that
make
sense
for
us
yeah
but
TI?
Oh,
so
the
tros,
you
know
and
I'm
just
showing
that
the
underlying
Zone
in
the
future.
E
E
Building
first
floor
would
allow
for
either
residential
or
non-residential
uses
that
we
anticipate
next
and
then
in
the
the
zoning
code.
There's
a
whole
range
of
different
uses.
You
know
kind
of
broken
out
generally
by
housing
or
residential
uses.
Institutional
government
uses
Regional
retail
service.
B
E
E
C
E
C
E
E
So
they're
not
being
like,
for
example,
the
brutalist
building
under
current
code
RM,
would
allow
for
some
small
non-residential
uses
like
the
coffee
shop.
Everybody
loves
the
coffee
shop.
You
know
that
wouldn't
be
permitted
there,
but
the
groin
would
allow
that.
So
that's
where
again
trying
to
create
more
of
a
uniform
title
for
each
area,
we're
working
with
potential
developers.
They
understand
as
a
whole,
as
opposed
to
each
parsley.
Yeah.
E
E
And
how
do
we
do
that?
So
one
of
the
things
we're
requiring
are
alleys
like
you'd,
see
in
the
downtown
or
more
urban
areas?
Why
do
we
want
to
record
alleys,
or
we
want
to
minimize
curb
Cuts
driveway
Cuts?
What
have
you
so
that
way
developments
could
access
their
sites
via
the
alley
in
the
rear,
and
that
creates
it
more
presence
forward
or
eyes
on
the
street
active
streetscape.
That's
the
sort
of
thing
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
there.
E
It
also
helps
break
up
building
Menace
my
favorite
examples
across
the
street
Smallwood.
You
know
a
whole
city
block.
A
very
large
building
people
feel
like
if
you
can
break
the
scale,
the
building
can
stay
out
of
testing
it's
the
height,
but
that's
a
pretty
bad
massing
down
that
large
wall
of
multiple
stories
and
alleys
again
helps
achieve
some
of
those
Aesthetics
that
people
desire.
So,
if
something
as
a
so
again,
we
require
holidays
require
access
off
the
alleys
again
to
minimize
the
curb
Cuts.
This
slide.
E
You're
gonna
go
first
quickly
previous
service,
so
the
code
require
areas
of
in
a
maximums
every
surface,
where
water
can't
infiltrate
versus
landscape
areas.
So
the
tro
did
the
speed
increase
the
impervious
circuit,
so
you're
allowed
to
have
more
impervious
service
than
you
would
in
the
underlying
Zone,
and
we
reduce
the
landscape
area,
so
we're
creating
a
larger
building
footprint
that
could
allow
each
building
lab
and
you
could
build
it
requires
so
that
again,
is
to
help
create
that
more
urban
environment.
E
E
E
E
Minimum
parking
one
of
the
things
that
partly
because
of
the
parking
garage,
one
of
the
things
that
we
hope
to
do
is
encourage
people
to
use
existing
type
of
garage
on
the
site
and
not
require
minimum
parking
them.
Some
things
that
maybe,
if
it's
a
small
use
of
Bitcoin,
retire
to
provided
and
amount
of
on-site
parking,
is
to
be
seen
like
hey
I,
don't
have
to
provide
parking.
If
you
want
to
you
can,
but
we're
not
requiring
and
sliding
and.
E
E
How
do
we
achieve
first
floor
residential?
Some
people
are
looking
into
bedrooms
and
kitchens,
so
here
in
the
tro
you're
allowed
to
have
first
floor
residential,
but
we
want
it
to
be
raised
a
little
bit
about
the
the
sidewalk
two
to
five
feet
above
grade
and
so
give
some
of
that
privacy,
but
still
you're
getting
that
ice
in
the
street
and
then
there's
some
other
stuff
here
about
Courtyards
and
whatever
again,
to
make
sure
that
the
size
of
the
buildings
are
just
a
giant.
E
Building
floor,
plate
I,
don't
know
if
anybody's
familiar
with
that
term,
but
if
you
think
of
the
first
floor,
what's
the
maximum
square
footage
that
you're
allowed
the
way
our
Coast
from
here
as
limitations
on
how
big
of
that
building
equipment
you
can
have,
and
that
gets
into
our
how
we
trigger
our
incentives
for
affordability
and
sustainability.
So
this
is
very
similar
that
we
have
elsewhere
in
the
downtown.
Is
this
maximum
floor
plate
that
it
ties
into
a
big
incentives.
E
E
That
might
have
been
permitted
under
the
underlying
something.
Likewise,
we
change
some
uses
that
are
permitted.
So,
for
example,
I
already
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
restaurant,
our
industry,
where
we
think
that's
a
completely
appropriate
use
in
Hopewell
that
it
might
might
not
be
an
appropriate
use
elsewhere
in
the
community
other
than
so
that's
how
we
are
getting
kind
of
applying
students.
Zoning
districts
slide
additional
parking
requirements.
So
this
really
is
targeting
surface
parking,
lots
and
we're
trying
to
discourage
surface
parking.
E
Lots
you're
still
able
to
do
it,
but
if
you're
going
to
do
a
surface
parking
lot,
you're
really
looking
at
doing
a
permeable
surface.
In
order
to
do
that,
trying
to
encourage
is
again
Allie
access.
Hopefully
it's
in
structured
parking,
multi
stories,
but
if
that
doesn't
work,
then
looking
to
do
a
more
sustainable
and
reading
feature
with
the
permeable
surface
of
the
surface,
parking
lots
and
slide
real
quickly.
We
regulate
materials,
but
we
wanted
to
allow
more
flexibility
in
the
utero.
E
How
do
we
create
that
eyes
in
the
street
pedestrian
scale
and
making
sure
that
landscaping
and
other
things
are
kind
of
more
consistent,
neighborhood
maximum
parking?
Again
there's
Max
amounts.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
minimums,
but
here
we're
trying
to
help
incentivize,
encourage
the
use
of
the
parking
structure
and
getting
more
residential
uses
on
those
lots
of
the.
D
E
We
reduce
the
parking
maximums
by
50
that
doesn't
shouldn't
impact
too
much
to
some
of
our
parking.
Maximums
are
actually
pretty
high.
The
advocated
the
sites.
A
lot
of
sizes
will
constrained
excellent
marketing.
More
than
understanding
is
going
well,
but
outside
incentives,
just
kind
of
an
island
for.
E
If
you
do
affordability
for
sustainability
to
get
into
that
forward
plate
scenario,
so
if
you
do
one
of
those
voluntarily,
you
get
a
bump
in
your
maximum
floor
plate.
If
you
do
both
you
get
a
bigger
amount.
Essentially,
what
we're
doing
here
is
very
similar.
What
we've
done
in
some
other
districts
to
help
incentivize
sustainability,
more
importability,
if
you
do
one
or
other
you
get
a
little
about,
if
you
do
both
and
get
a
pretty
big
bump.
So
here
you
essentially
even
double
your
maximum
square.
E
Is
the
minimum
amount
but
certainly
require
more
negotiations
of
a
developer?
Comes
in
so
obviously
the
core
building?
There's
a
proposal
being
considered
to
reuse
that
that's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
than
15
of
that,
on
instance,
in
square
footage,
wise
John,
you
might
not
tell
me,
but
I
always
think
of
the
Best
Buy
on
the
east
side
of
town,
that's
about
a
20
000
square
foot
building.
E
So
that's
a
pretty
big
building
when
you
think
of
20
000
square
feet
to
visualize
that
so
again,
lot
sizes
might
dictate
the
maximum
four
plates.
But
if
you
want
one
half
of
the
old
lucky
building
yeah,
because
that's
44
000
square
foot,
okay,
thanks
John
yeah
next
slide
and
then
I
don't
get
too
much
into
the
tier
one
or
tier
two
with
that
support
ability.
So
if
you
think
of
tier
one,
it's
maybe
take
120
below
Ami,
that's
our
kind
of
Workforce
housing.
E
Essentially,
the
takeaway
message
here-
that's
different
than
the
rest
of
the
city
is
we're
doubling
we're
doubling
the
incentives
here
than
you
would
so
elsewhere.
In
the
city,
you
only
get
one
floor
or
tier
one,
an
additional
form
for
tier
two
and
additional
or
password
group
sustainability,
but
here
you're
actually
gonna
have
to
find
there's
some
forms
if
you
do
tier
two
and
sustainability.
So
it's
a
pretty
big
incentive
on
2
million
careers
that.
C
E
Oh
yes,
and
so
the
next
one
is
what
we
call
departures
and
so
with
the
director
of
Transportation
can
do,
is
the
really
awesome
project
comes
in
and
there
might
be
something
in
code
that
says.
Oh,
you
have
too
much
metal
on
your
ability
in
the
primary
like
there's
something
in
code
that
just
trips
above
you're
not
really
eligible
to
get
a
variance.
E
I
could
kind
of
determine,
or
my
predecessor
could
determine
that
saying:
hey.
This
is
a
pretty
exceptional
design.
Kick
it
up
for
public
review
to
say
hey!
This
is
really
checks
all
the
boxes,
but
for
some
reason,
there's
something
in
the
code.
We've
been
just
a
primary
variants
and
we
didn't
deviate
them
code.
This
allowed
the
ability
to
kind
of
bring
that
something
special
to
there,
because
I
think
some
of
the
concerns
we've
heard.
Obviously
with
code,
sometimes
are
rigid
on
what
standards
and
designs
and
what
we
have
and
we
don't
want
to
get.
E
There's
some
more
incentives
on
approvals
like
if,
if
you
were
to
do
an
affordability,
that's
something
that
can
be
be
done
at
the
stat
level,
depending
on
the
size
if
it
gets
bigger
notice
and
that
was
called
a
major
site
plan
diagnosed
to
Planning
Commission.
Likewise,
if
somebody
comes
in
with
something
really
cool
that
doesn't
quite
check
every
box
in
the
video
or
we
could
say
hey,
this
is
pretty
exciting
home.
We'll
kick
it
to
the
bank
commission
regardless.
If
it's
sampler.
E
E
But
in
all
honesty
you
know
we
would
review
a
petition
and
you
know,
obviously
you
know
somebody
came
forward
with
an
option
to
buy
a
property.
We
would
have
that
conversation
about
them
and
oftentimes.
There
might
be
something
in
the
code
that
would
be
like,
oh
well.
We
want
to
do
this,
like
what
code
will
allow
you
to
do
that
I'm,
not
sure
we
could
support
that
variance.
A
good
example
is
what
we
did
for
the
core
building,
because
it
was
locally
designated
as
a
discordant
building.
They
ran
into
some
issues
with
their
code.
E
If
that
wasn't
the
case,
it
might
be
harder
to
justify
that
project.
Unless
there
was
something
really
cool
about
the
designs
or
about
the
department
issue,
the
staff
would
say:
well,
hey
you
know,
and
I
can't
remember
the
packaging
didn't
remember.
I
mean
there
was
quite
a
number
of
appearance,
experiences
that
we
had
to
get
another
important
and
we
wouldn't
want
to
variances
to
hold
up
a
project
in
this
context
of
life
before.
A
Sure,
thank
you
thanks
Scott,
that's
helpful!
So
for
for
us
well,
we
will
be
interfacing
with
our
owners.
Wherever
we
have
in
life,
it's
really
going
to
be
their
job
to
to
really
understand
what
we
can
and
can't
do,
based
on
the
new
overlays
and
the
zoning
regulations
there
and,
of
course
they
would
work
with.
A
Before
we
go
to
market
and
try
to
recruit
somebody
to
come
in
and
work
through
the
process
that
we
have,
so
that's
why
I
wanted
us
to
have
a
kind
of
a
general
high-level
view
of
what
has
been
done
to
the
side,
which
is
different.
The
zoning
here
is
different
than
anywhere
else
in
the
city
as
a
result
of
the
master
plan
coming
first
and
giving
us
some
guidance
on
how
to
Zone
it,
as
you
were
going
through
the
Udo
updates
at
that
time
too.
So.
E
Yeah
I
would
say
that
you
know
Deb
helped
us
kind
of
bet,
some
feedback
that
we've
received.
So
hopefully
you
know,
we've
got
the
standards
right,
but
I
mean
it
is
somewhat.
Is
you
know
they
have
Hamilton
always
says
it's
a
free
ring
binder.
If
we're
doing
things
that
are
problematic,
you
know
I'm
happy
to
bring
it
through
the
process
to
make
those
changes.
E
D
B
D
C
B
C
Would
say
well,
I,
know
they're
proposing
that,
but
that's
not
possible.
You
know
so
like
they
immediately
can
tell
us
like
what
almost
really
early
in
those
proposal
segments
possible.
That's
not
possible,
so
a
huge
value
in
that
selection
process
to
make
sure
we
don't
get
super
excited
about
something.
That's
suddenly
not
gonna
happen.
B
C
B
E
A
C
Right
I
would
just
say
that
we
are.
We
have
two
I
want
to
say
complete
proposals.
The
third
one
would
be
asked
for
additional
information.
We
just
received
that.
So
that's
been
going
back
out
for
questions
and
comments.
We
are
in
a
phase
where
we
are
seeking
input
on
some
clarifications
with
them.
At
the
same
time,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
owners
development
rep.