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A
B
Yeah,
yes,.
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B
A
The
next
time
the
business
for
us
is
approval
of
our
minutes
from
our
April
5th
meeting.
Have
you
all
had
a
chance
to
review
those
and
when
ready,
I'll,
accept
a
motion
so
moving
in
a
second
a
second
all
in
favor
sleep
if
I
were
saying
aye
aye
all
right,
our
next
section
of
the
governance.
These
are
some
things
that
we
have
still
been
working
through.
A
One
of
those
was
posted
for
two
weeks,
as
is
required
to
change
our
bylaws
I'm,
going
to
ask
that
K2
walk
us
through
the
bylaw
change,
and
you
all
have
seen
it
and
sent
out
to
you
and
reviewed
after
Beth
gives
us
a
summary.
We
can.
C
D
And
then
that
person
would
fill
the
vacancy
for
the
rest
of
that
and
expire
internal
and
then
in
the
original
appointed
Authority
would
appoint
a
person
for
a
new
turn
based
on
some
interest
by
by
the
board
in
admitting
that
article,
by
section
seven
that
effectively
the
original
pointer
of
whatever
that
is
student
council,
go
ahead
and
meet
the
temporary
appointment
for
the
majority
of
expiratory.
F
A
A
Also
under
governance,
we
had
some
continuing
updates
to
a
diagram
and,
if
you
don't
mind
putting
on
the
screen
guys,
this
is
kind
of
how
we've
seen
cbci
fitting
in
with
the
administration,
the
Redevelopment
commission
and
other
entities.
I
think
this
is
still
a
work
in
progress
as
this
entity
is
new
enough.
That
trying
to
make
sure
we
understand
it's
the
best
most
efficient
but
effective
way
to
have
us
do
some
work
that
can
City
out
is
our
goal.
A
So
if
you
don't
mind
showing
together
before
there's
two
versions
of
this,
this
is
what
reporting
structure
was
when
the
cbci
did
not
exist,
and
then
we'll
show
you
how
we
think
it
reports
based
on
that.
So
with
one
of
the
staff
members
like
Beth
Or,
which
I
could
walk
us
through
this
one's
November.
Crafted,
of
course,
would.
D
D
D
We
can
see
that
before
cbci
and
a
lot
of
what
CBC
I
would
be
doing
in
terms
of
forwardings
and
the
priorities
and
projects
what
have
been
assignments
of
those
projects
to
City
staff,
so
internal
with
or
Hopewell
in
particular
over
here
at
the
steering
committee,
providing
what
is
input
and
kind
of
communication
kind
of
in
both
directions
with
the
administration
and
so
on,
and
then
also
from
the
mayor
to
RMC.
D
D
D
We
drafted,
but
there
is
administered,
support,
that's
going
to
be
provided
in
exchange
for
the
services
of
the
cpci
that
will
be
taking
the
place
essentially
of
some
internal
staff.
D
B
D
Changes
to
the
cbci
violence,
the
projects
around
these
technically
by
the
administration
by
the
mayor's
office
to
cbci
in
the
way
that
it
would
have
to
intervene
with
that
or
things
have
not
really
changed
in
terms
of
the
mayor
of
the
administration's
relationship
with
the
UNC,
but
at
the
RDC,
to
the
extent
that
there
is
any
real
estate
transaction
with
cbci.
That
would
have
to
be
approved
by
our
PC
as
well.
So
that's
what
you're
saying
around.
D
Board
everything
stayed
the
same
with
respect
to
the
relationship
that
we
already
see
and
then
the
as
far
as
the
cbci
guidelines.
Those
in
addition
to
violence
changes
all
the
bylaws
themselves,
provide
or
receive
commission
to
have
an
annual
budget
presentation
and
approval
of
the
budgets
of
the
cbci
and
approval
of
property
purchases
kind
of
mirroring
the
way
it
improves
that
level
of
poverty
transaction
to
purchase
by
whatever
you
see
did
that
make
sense.
That
was
a
lot.
It
wasn't
entirely
when
you
were
online.
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C
H
A
C
In
the
one
here
it
says
like
appointment,
it
will
say
appointment
Authority
but
not,
but
this
specifies
the
number
of
members
that
the
mayor
and
the
seat
Council
Authority
totally
so.
D
Just
no
thanks
for
pointing
that
out
and
we
did,
we
were
making
yeah
so
we'll
be
sure
to
circle.
The
link
to
everyone
in
this
updated
version.
D
D
A
D
One
other
comment:
I'll
disabled
kind
of
General
comments
is
that
the
goal
here
and
we've
been
disabled
when
we
were
drafting
the
bylaws
to
begin
with.
But
you
see
it
reflected
in
here.
It
is
for
lots
of
input,
lots
of
transparency,
lots
of
of
the
roles
of
various
folks
who
ordinarily
have
absolutely
but
into
urban
funding,
real
estate
transactions
and
so
on,
while
allowing
for
the
cdci
to
kind
of
operate
in
a
smooth
way.
So
we
can
actually
really
important
projects
without
on
demonstrates.
So
that's
the
Middle
East.
A
Ern
questions
or
observations
adapt
it's
the
last
time
we'll
see
a
change
too
to
the
document,
as
we
learn
more
about
how
we
can
be
helpful
and
where
are
the
best
use
of
our
time
and
energy
will
be,
but
we
at
least
are
refining
it
as
we
move
forward.
So
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
walk
us
through
that
I
know
at
some
point
the
staff
would
ask
this
question
I.
Would
if
I
were
you?
A
When
do
we
get
to
do
less
so
that
you
all
can
do
more
and
I
think
the
answer
will
be
forthcoming,
as
we
continue
to
learn
more
from
you,
we're
making
sure
we
kind
of
get
downloaded
as
much
information
as
you
have
so
that
we
can
take
on
more
of
the
heavier
lifting.
If
you
will
never
excluding
you,
because
you
all
are
going
to
be
key
to
the
project
moving
forward,
but
maybe
doing
more
work
than
we're
capable
of
at
the
moment.
Well,
we're
still
in
the
learning
mode
mayor
Hamilton.
A
G
Thing
that
popped
in
my
head
was
reminding
us
that
city
council
has
Representatives
on
the
local
steering
they're
actually
involved
in
that
too.
The
communication
reports.
So
it's
just
a
long
way
to
draw
I,
understand
and
thinking
I
know
you're.
Here
we
are
too
to
the
kind
of
transition
period
as
we're
building
up
capacities.
A
D
There's
agreement
between
City
and
cbci
that
effectively
reflects
the
sort
of
exchange
of
value
on
the
cpcience
or
city
projects
and
in
exchange
for
that,
the
city
is
going
to
provide
certain
levels
of
administrative
support
for
those
activities.
This
is
similar
to
agreements.
We
have
support
agreements
with
some
other
boards
and
it's
pretty
basic.
D
Unfortunately,
I
think
the
transition
from
Google
docs
to
wording
included
a
few
little
glitches
and
formatted
I'm.
So
sorry
about
that,
but
generally
I
think
it's
pretty
breathable.
So
one
thing
that
this
does
do
is
allow
us
more
easily
to
share
information
between
the
parties.
That
will
be
deliberated.
D
The
exception
to
the
open
records
act,
to
which
cbci,
by
virtue
of
its
buy
an
office
instead
of
operating
manager,
but
part
of
that
law,
is
an
exception
to
disclosure
appointments
for
material
that
is
internal
either
intra-agency
or
interior
agency
deliver
the
material
and
with
this
contract
it's
just
an
explicit
into
your
agency,
the
relationship
and
so,
for
example,
if
there
is
still
a
good
material,
it's
going
back
and
forth,
then
in
Miami
disclosure
before
it's
time.
So
so
that's
one
benefit
to
this.
That
was
really
documents
effectively.
D
The
sort
of
support
that
we've
been
providing
really
seamless
staff
liaison
work
that
Christ
has
been
doing,
provided
some
support.
Attempting
to
answer
any
questions.
We
continue
to
do
that.
I've
been
here
and
various
other
types
of
Staff
support.
For
the
time
being,
you
know
and
as
cbci
gets
potentially
some
of.
A
That
this
is
not
an
action
item
today.
This
is
a
kind
of
an
update
on
where
we
are.
We
obviously
want
to
review
this
and
make
sure
we're
comfortable
with
it
and
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions
or
feedback
to
that.
So
we
can
move
that
that
into
her
Court,
to
make
any
adjustments,
as
we
see,
can
be
necessary
anyway.
Yeah.
D
Beth
I've
got
a
question,
yes
and
sorry
to
be
free
to
do
John
event.
Just
saying
there
is
a
table
over
here
there's
an
internal
reference
in
that
first
paragraph.
None
of
the
references
compared
about
10
or
12
as
we
move
things
around.
It
should
be
nine
and
eleven
instead
of
10
as
well.
So
sorry
about
that.
E
D
D
E
E
E
All
I
don't
know,
and
then
the
other,
this
might
be
a
typo
or
it
might
be
legal
lingo
that
I
just
don't
get
it.
In
section
six,
the
is
lying
down,
says:
appropriate
persons,
person
type.
D
A
Was
a
reference
in
the
previous
discussion
about
the
organization
of
the
this
body
and
how
it
interfaces
with
other
groups
and
I
heard
it
would
go
to
the
city
council
for
Budget
approval
I,
suppose
that
would
mean
if
we
are
asking
for
general
fund
hours,
that
would
be
necessary
if
we
were
asking
for
a
development
nationalities
a
fair
enough
way
to
repeat
that.
So
we
do.
We
have
an
actual
requirement
to
update
the
city
council
with
a
budget
annually.
Even
if
the
budget
is
zero.
A
D
A
Do
that
as
I
know,
that
the
city's
process
for
Budget
goes
through
a
series
of
reviews
and
presentations
to
the
city
council
would
be
required
to
come
to
that
meeting
on
some
given
night
and
make
that
reporter
and
whatever
you
all
tell
us.
We
have
to
do.
Just
would
like
to
know
that
when
you
get
a
chance
to
flesh
that
out.
D
That
particular
subdivision
is
providing
financial
assistance
for
neighborhood
development
corporations
that
can
help
constructively
debilitated
area.
So
there
are
a
few
parts
of
this
statute
are
of
the
sort
of
things
that
ultimately
so.
C
Thank
you
sure
sure
I
just
had
a
question
about
number
seven
Veterinary
speeds
because
and
I
understand
that
this
is
spoilerplate
language,
but
I'm,
just
in
a
curious.
C
If,
if
ever
came
to
the
point
that
there
would
be
any
kind
of
legal
action
or
disagreement
between
the
mayor's
office
and
the
board,
how
exactly
this
would
work,
because
this
is
saying
that
if
there,
if
any
actions
brought
to
enforcing
agreement,
the
prevailing
party
shall
be
entitled
to
recover
reasonable
cost
of
enforcement,
but
also
in
in
six.
C
D
D
First,
you
know
at
some
point
actually
covering
those
costs.
I
mean
there
are
some
now,
that's
the
really
usual.
D
D
D
Those
are
rates
going
forward
right
if
the
insurance
company,
so
it's
possible
defense,
but
then
that
into
their
calculations
of
stories,
to
see
if
there's
insurance
down
the
road
does
that
make
sense.
Yeah.
C
Is
that
a
that's
in
all
the
words
I.
C
Yeah,
it
just
seems
like
it
seems
so
weird
that
it
would
kind
of
get
into
an
odd
and
circular
of
legal
situation
rather
in
there.
But
okay.
D
A
A
Hearing
then
Beth,
if
you
don't
mind,
taking
into
consideration
some
of
the
things
mentioned
and
I,
don't
believe
this
requires
two
weeks
to
it's,
just
an
agreement
between
us
and
the
city:
it's
not
a
bylaw
change,
so
we
we
could
conceivably
here
and
approve
this
support
agreement
at
our
executing
yeah.
If
everybody's
comfortable
with
that
we'll
send
out
the
updated
draft
Club
advance
so
that
you
can
take
a
look
see
if
there's
anything
else,.
D
A
A
Okay,
just
right
now,
I
know
you're.
Okay,
then
we're
going
to
move
out
of
the
governance
and
into
the
meat
of
the
agenda.
This
is
section
with
several
topics
related
to
the
Hopewell
development,
mostly
on
updates
that
they're
not
ready.
There's
no
action
item
amongst
these
rather
they're
updates
for
all
the
board
and
for
the
public
that
are
watching
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Deb,
Koontz
and
she'll.
Talk
about
our
owner's
representative
and
date
that
we're
about
to
next
great.
F
Well,
since
the
last
time
that
we
met
that
we
have
had
second
interviews
with
two
candidates
and
following
those
interviews,
the
selection
team
had
several
follow-up
items
and
we
have
now
provided
those
follow-up
items
to
the
selection
team.
We'll
be
meeting
again
next
Tuesday
that
doesn't
put
a
reference
check,
which
is
still
ongoing,
get
a
huge
phone
calls
can
be
challenging,
and
so,
if
all
goes
as
planned
after
next
Tuesday,
the
selection
team
will
then
make
a
recommendation
to
Mayor,
which
then
ultimately
goes
to
the
RDC.
F
At
this
point,
acknowledging
that
at
some
point
that
contract
could
potentially
be
shifted
over
to
the
to
the
CI,
but
initially
it
will
go
to
the
RTC.
So
what
we
are
looking
at
two
two
specific
candidates.
A
And
just
for
General
consumption,
the
members
of
this
board
that
are
on
the
selection
committee,
Review
Committee,
are
myself:
John,
West
and
Valerie
Payne,
and
the
nurse
staff
members
also
present
in
this
room
and
the
RDC
representative
Cindy
canari.
So
that's
just
for
more
public
advantage
of
who
else
involved
in
this
review
process.
A
Okay,
national
debt
is
the
Hopewell
are
at
i1,
update.
F
I'll
just
give
a
high
level
and
then
John's
going
to
take
it
and
get
updates
in
the
next
couple
of
items
and
I
think
he
has
a
slideshow
that
will
pull
up.
But
in
general
you
may
recall
that
the
first
RFI
for
development
was
issued.
They
were
due
on
April
12th
and
we
did
receive
several
that
are
under
consideration.
So
there
is
a
new
team
that
has
been
put
in
place,
which
you
are
also
represented
by
John
and
Chris,
and
so
they
have.
We
are
have
taken
everything
under
advisement.
F
H
So,
just
as
we
kind
of
keep
going
with
this
and
talking
to
the
community
and
developers
and
Alex
told
you
about
our
road
show
at
the
Urban
Land
Institute
a
few
weeks
ago,
it's
important
that
all
of
you
have
these
updates
too.
I
want
to
keep
sort
of
sharing,
not
the
same
information,
but
just
consistent
things
that
we're
talking
to
people
about.
So
one
of
the
tangible
things
going
on
in
Hopewell
is
that
for
us
to
say,
here's
what's
happening
visually
people
can
see
that
the
hospital
is
basically
gone.
H
H
Construction
this
year,
we've
got
the
ready
grant.
That
is
I
think
finalized
that
this
for
the
port
of
the
Jackson
Street
around
the
first
to
University
Street,
which
basically
welcome
to
the
core
building
which
will
show
you
well.
This
would
be
Jackson
Street
right
here,
which.
H
Hospital
there
do
the
core
building
that
you
all
have
those
design
images
in
your
packet,
but
when
you
have
to
share
this
one
on
the
slide
here,
that's
a
38
unit
development
tax
credit
project
listed
on
them
to
the
Indiana
housing.
The
Community
Development
Authority,
just
declared
anything
smaller
ability
basically
see
two
buildings
there
that
are
enjoyed
in
the
middle
of
a
smaller
building
is
the
historic
core.
Building.
What
you
see
more
prominently
is
the
addition.
H
Expand
options
for
all
the
households
that
are
going
to
be
there
and
we
talk
about
affordability.
We
need
all
types
of
Market
rates,
the
traditional
affordable,
which
is
80
or
less
of
that
area.
Kind
of
Workforce
is
that
80
over
20
that
we're
going
to
see
there
as
well
approximately
it
is
so
many
different
employment
centers
in
the
league,
at
least
a
24
or
a
two
there.
H
Twenty
percent
affordability
goal
across
different
housing
types,
and
then
we
want
to
maintain
neighborhood
scale
at
the
edges
and
go
to
the
next
line
and
see
what
that
means
in
real
time.
This
is
from
the
master
plan,
so
the
bottom
corner,
the
bottom
right
corner
of
the
screen,
has
been
Bill,
Gardens,
neighborhood
I'm,
basically
looking
at
a
view,
Northeast
we're
going
to
go
straight
in
the
middle
of
the
top
of
the
screen,
so
the
core
building
you
can
see
in
the
middle
there,
the
white
of
it
out
buildings.
H
The
show
two
stories
of
two
stories
of
moving
that
part
of
the
project
properly,
but
you
can
see
the
different
housing
types
of
domestic
plan
utilized
on
the
constant
sites
and
the
lower
rise
town
of
nose,
single
family
and
low
rise
and
multiple
block
State
limited
tin,
which
is
about
RFI
that
we
have
out
or
that
we
have
responses
back
for
now.
That's
the
most
three
sections
that
you've
seen
in
front
there
next
to
the
boat
Gardens,
and
that
goes
up
sort
of
really
heightened
on
state
from
there.
H
And
then
this
these
available
to
you
it's
in
the
master
plan,
but
this
chart
just
shows
the
distribution
of
the
units,
as
the
master
plan
laid
out
on
the
different
acreage
across
the
site,
where
all
the
different
units,
of
course,
the
fourth
governor
of
the
baseball
engagement,
property
metal.
That's
that's
where
Senator
stone
is,
and
the
gray
structure
right
to
the
left
of
number
four.
That's
a
parking
garage
to
give
you
some
orientation
of
what
one
of
the
housing
types
would
be.
So
that's
that's
just
a
record.
H
F
The
site
they
also
important
to
you
might
hear
us
use
the
term.
This
is
a
thousand
units
thousand.
We
always
use
that
term.
So
we're
rounding
up
and
we
know
we're
on
the
high
side,
because
if
you
look
at
the
column
that
says
residential
units,
the
total
there
is
580
940,
that's
what
the
master
plan
originally
identified,
but
we
know
there's
more
opportunity
for
density
there.
So
when
you
hear
us
talking
to
developers
we're
going
to
consistently
say
it's
a
thousand
units
or
more.
F
A
F
F
To
Center
on
a
block
because
we'll
have
potentially
multiple
developers
could
be
within
one
block
and
then
yeah
this
this
whole
notion
that
the
rfis
and
how
they
release
you
started
with
eight
nine
and
ten.
That
is
the
probably
the
least,
dense
area
in
part
because
it's
got
single
family.
So,
if
you
think
about
where
we
started,
that's
where
we
started
with
the
single
family,
various.
F
When
we
go
to
blocks
one
two
and
three,
which
will
be
RFI
2,
that
is
going
to
be
our
densest
area,
so
three
over
three
Thirty.
If
you
look
at
just
one
two
and
three
before
it's,
also
where
the
hot
spot
is
for
the
greenway,
it's
also
on
the
B
line
right,
it's
probably
some
of
the
prime
location
location.
So.
F
C
D
H
I
should
say
the
accessible
entrance
will
be
on
the
Jackson
right
here.
This
is
really
accessible
injuries
here
and
because
this
is
still
like
one
that
has.
H
So,
just
to
another
visual
here
on
what's
funded:
what's
not,
we
see
the
Jackson
Street
as
the
original.
What
I
was
talking
about
earlier-
and
this
again
is
just
an
important
sign-
we've
talked
with
the
development
Community.
You
know
we
have
a
ways
to
go
on
infrastructure
funding
and
getting
stuff
paid
for,
but
we
have
Vincent
Hitler
step,
big
part
of
restarting
they're
already
paid
for
here
and
yeah.
H
E
I
My
plan
here
is
a
bit
of
a
wink,
but
we
are
trying
to
establish
a
kind
of
a
very
easily
recognizable,
consistent
and
aggressive
way
to
project
into
the
future,
with
the
development
when
it
comes
to
sustainability,
climate
preparedness,
the
vision
which
is
part
of
the
vision
statement
or
pulled
out
in
a
vision
from
the
vision
statement
again
to
advance
toward
the
zero
Department
future
to
exhibit
best
practices,
and
we
want
to
establish
a
goal
kind
of
a
minimum
threshold
of
lead
silver.
But
we
really
want
to
push
beyond
that.
I
So
you
know
I
think
if
we
think
of
this
neighborhood
as
being
built
for
today
by
today's
standards,
I
think
we're
going
to
sell
ourselves
short
a
little
bit,
and
we
really
want
to
be
thinking
about
this.
Neighborhood
is
what
will
we
have
wanted
to
have
built
10
years
from
now
now?
So
what
so?
I
We
kind
of
have
to
get
a
little
bit
further
out
there
than
what
today's
standard
practices
are
and
that
comes
into
you
know
a
lot
of
detail,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
this
Top
Line
as
we
go
forward.
The
community
ask
for
it
in
the
in
the
in
the
master
plan.
I
The
community
is
very
interested
in
this
and
again
this
is
a
terrific
opportunity
for
our
for
us
to
really
build
something
in
from
the
get-go
that
will
Propel
us
forward,
and
so
you
know,
lead
silver
is,
is
kind
of
price
of
Entry
these
days,
I
mean
it's
not
everywhere,
but
but
that
has
moved
into
a
kind
of
acceptable
minimum
threshold.
What
we'd
like
to
do
is
not
end
there,
but
start
there
and
look
at
ways
to
incentivize
Investments
beyond
that
in
and
development.
I
So
what
does
that
mean?
Basically,
we
need
to
in
you
know,
that's
a
nice
aspiration
and
that
needs
to
be
executable
in
our
processes
and
and
we've
already
gone
to
Market,
by
which
we
had
we
wanted
to
do,
but
we
didn't
have
necessarily
the
benefit
of
all
of
the
horsepower
that
we're
going
to
want
to
have
on
sustainability,
moving
forward,
it's
going
to
take
coordination
between
the
city
and
RDC
teams.
Obviously,
all
of
you,
the
owner's
representative
sustainability
consultants.
I
If
we
deemed
a
bad
as
an
additional
resource,
we
want
to
put
on
this.
It's
been
tentatively
budgeted,
but
it
remains
to
be
seen
how
that
that
need
gets
filled
and
then
potential
budgetary
support,
as
I
mentioned,
to
fill
that,
so
the
exercise
is
going
to
require
us
to
look
at
everything
free
development.
So
how
do
we
bait
this?
The
right,
Vision,
the
right
language
and
the
right
expectations
and
with
rfis,
because
I
go
out
to
the
market,
so
we
got
to
get
ahead
of
this.
I
You've
got
to
bake
it
in
so
that,
when
we're
putting
stuff
out
in
the
market,
we're
tracking
the
right
kind
of
developers,
that'll
also,
you
know,
come
into
play
not
only
for
our
thoughts
but
as
we're
out
there
doing.
Taylor
Swift,
concerts
and
Road
shows.
We
want
to
make
sure
the
communication
is
very
clear
about
what
our
expectations
are.
I
We
want
it
to
be
baked
in
and
have
it
baked
into
the
infrastructure
planning
and
the
build
out.
So
so
again,
we're
not
trying
to
slap
sustainability
onto
this
after
the
fact
we're
really
making
it
part
of
the
upfront
and
make
it
very
deliberate
planning.
I
So
what
you
see
here
are
the
the
engagement
phases
again
goal
setting
which
we've
done
at
bank
documentation,
so
anything
that
goes
out
whether
it's
solicitations
or
Communications,
not
at
all,
all
reflecting
our
vision
for
this.
I
When
we
do
that,
and
we
get
development
proposals
back,
we're
also
going
to
want
to
have
some
help
in
vetting
those
proposals
and
determining
whether
or
not
they
need
you
know,
muster
and
and
and
and
looking
at
through
a
sustainability
lens
to
decide
whether
or
not
development
a
which
may
seem
fine
is,
is
from
a
sustainable
sustainability
perspective
materially
different
than
development
B
proposal
and
which
one
would
you
like
more
so
there
could
be
a
lot
of
different
metrics
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at,
but
this
has
to
be
one
of
them.
I
With
that
Baseline
of
sustainability
and
Lead
silver
plus
overly
gold
and
Beyond,
the
certification
of
all
of
that
is
there
a
role
that
we
can
take
to
help
developers
actually
serve
right
and-
and
so
one
thing
that
we
can
do
is
we
can
establish
a
neighborhood
the
threshold
and
that
what
that
does
is
it
allows
us
to
start
to
credit
points
because
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
and-
and
you
can
actually
take
some
of
those
points
and
they
can
be,
they
can
accrue
to
a
developer
and
that
developer.
I
There
kind
of
starts
ahead
right,
and
so
it
becomes
a
bit
of
a
marketing
opportunity
for
us
to
say:
hey
we're,
not
we're
putting
some
stuff
on
the
table
here,
but
we
know
we
are
we're,
bringing
away
we're
telling
a
lot
of
other
things.
But
this
is
one
of
the
things
we
can
put
on
the
table
and
we
can
say
we
are.
We
are
investing
in
and
preparing
this
for
a
threshold
above
what
you
may
be
working
with
in
other
communities,
but
we're
putting
that
in
to
help
you
get
to
the
next
level.
I
And
so
again,
you
know
I
hope.
Five
years
from
now,
10
years
from
now,
our
future
selves
look
back
at
this
and
say
they
were
thinking
about
it
at
the
time
they
were
supposed
to
they
baked
it
in
the
way
they
were
supposed
to
and
that's
how
we
ended
up
with
a
really
great
neighborhood
which,
by
the
way,
is
being
much
more
marketable
to
you,
know
the
15
year
old,
who
will
be
25
10
years
from
now.
Then
not
do
it
again.
So
there's
there's
enough
side
in
that
as
well.
I
C
Thank
you.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you
all
have
thought
about
the
sustainability
goals
and,
in
particular
the
kind
of
certification
components
of
the
sustainability
holds
for
the
community?
I
Yeah,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
that
because,
and
in
fact
that's
impractical,
practical
experience.
So
when
the
Udo
was
revised
and
and
went
to
Market,
unified
development,
ordinance
anti-acronism,
they
went
to
Market
and
said:
hey
developer,
you
can
either
be
very
sustainable
or
you
can
have
some
affordable
housing
and
you'll
get
some
great
benefits
that
you
do.
I
If
you
pick
one
of
those
things
right
and
then
what
we
ended
up,
learning
very
quickly
was
that
the
inadvertent
they
can
create
a
tension
between
those
two
objectives
and
we
want
to
vote,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
they
did
when
they
revised
the
unified
development
ordinance
was
to
basically
you
know.
This
is
a
simple,
simple
way
of
saying
it,
but
they
said
one
plus
one
equals
three.
So
actually,
if
you
meet
both
of
those
objectives,
you
have
a
better
cumulative
benefit
than
if
you
meet
one
or
the
other
objectives
right.
I
I
Having
greater
affordability,
so
there's
definitely
a
financial
question
in
sbw,
but
if
we
can
create
an
incentive
structure
whereby
someone
who
is
attracted
to
to
the
neighborhood,
but
you
know
to
come
and
build
shares
our
vision
and
we
set
up
an
incentive
structure
that
allows
for
the
delivery
of
both
to
be
more
than
more
to
them
than
just
one
or
the
other
or
none
who
would
have
been
said.
Then
we
have
the
ability
to
actually
achieve
those
goals.
Yeah.
C
G
C
Know,
obviously,
we
want
to
have
a
community
that
is
aesthetically
appealing
and
also
there
are
long-term
benefits
as
well,
that
are
also
Financial
to
to
having
sustainable
buildings
that
have
lower
energy,
but
that
also
comes
with
upfront
costs
in
particular,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
I
thought
about
balancing
those,
because
I
mean
just
add
like
from
a
brass
task
perspective.
Getting
certified
lead
cost
money
right.
So
it's
just
by
definition
having
that
certification
means
that
it's
going
to
be
more
expensive
for
people
to
buy
in
or
rent
that.
F
Looks
like
it
also
offer
if
you'd,
like,
maybe
some
synopsis
of
some
of
the
conversations
we've
been
having
with
developers
about
this,
because
it's.
B
F
Or
is
it
just
part
of
their
main
business
and
I
know?
John
and
I
have
talked
to
and
Alex
have
talked
to
several
developers
in
the
Indianapolis
and
this
area
that
say
our
people,
our
renters
are
expecting
it
right.
G
F
F
They
understand
we're
going
to
pay
a
little
bit
extra
upfront,
knowing
that
our
renters
can
save
on
that
in
terms
of
the
utilities
in
the
long
term
that
is
yet
to
be
seen
and
I'm
sure
there
are
many
developers
who
don't
make
it
part
understanding
practice,
but
I
was
I
was
personally
pleasantly
surprised
at
how
many
we
found
are
doing
that
as
a
matter
of
their
standard.
I
We
have
experience
here
in
Bloomington,
there's
a
feline
Heights
Building
over
on
Rogers
right,
the
head
core
developer
project
called
moving
forward.
It
was
in
2018
I
think
it
was
it's
actually
a
good
example
of
just
which
is
that's
an
informal
aspects
with
the
moving
forward
program,
which
was
the
state
program,
is
designed
to
really
look
at
more
than
just
rent.
When
it
comes
to
affordability,
right
they,
they
were
looking
at
images
why
this
location
was
actually
appealing.
I
So
the
fact
that
it's
within
walking
distance
of
employment
in
itself
is
importable
affordability
play.
They
have
a
canopy
of
solar
associated
with
it.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
goes
into
the
gust
of
the
building
actually
speaks
to
what
you're
talking
about
which
is
it.
It
ties
those
the
notion
of
the
portability
and
sustainability
into
the
same.
D
B
I
So
you
know,
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
having
a
baseline
of
points
that
are
available
to
someone
right
so
that
that
means
that
they
have
to
do
less
work.
We
actually
talked
about
the
possibility
of
bearing
the
cost
of
this
of
the
certification
itself
right.
It
might
be
more
efficient
to
be
doing
that
in
a
centralized
way
than
to
be
have
depend
on
each
developer.
I
To
do
it
themselves
right,
so
you
could
kind
of
you
could
consolidate
that
cost
and
and
to
leave
them
that
cost
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
if
someone
wants
to
do
more
than
the
Baseline
wants
to
go
to
gold
or
silver
or
beyond
that
we
might
be
able
to
look
at
ways
to
like
it's
instead
of
us
in
a
more
traditional
way,
whether
it's
statements
or
that
sort
of
thing.
I
F
C
F
District
has
additional
incentives,
specifically
in
it
that
helps
it
focuses
on
sustainable
affordability
like,
for
instance,
increased
height.
You
can
increase
height
available
to
you
on
the
building.
If
you
increase,
you
know,
do
more
affordability,
so
you
know
the
overlay
District
I,
think
it
might
simplified
manner
is
that
it
contemplated
that
the
current
Udo
wasn't
really
created
for
this
kind
of
urban
neighborhood.
So
what
changes
do
we
need
to
make
in
order
to
make
it
easy
and
I'm
going
to
get
a
couple?
F
Examples
on
street
now,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
parking
that
is
necessary,
well
that
that
minimum
Earth
parking
was
taken
away,
because
this
is
on
a
bus
line.
It's
got
other
Transportation
opportunities,
and
so
there's
a
recognition
of
that.
But.
D
F
Added
some
incentives
that
really
focus
on
getting
us,
helping
the
developers
also
get
to
that
portability
and
sustainably.
So
we,
it
may
be
a
worthwhile
that
this
group
would
like
to
hear
that
it
can
go
into
greater
detail.
E
Alex
and
we
have
a
some
sustainability
factors-
this
may
have
been
before
your
time,
but
of
course,
when
Ann
did
that
development
project,
it
was
a
single
family
homes
off
of
saddle.
I
A
Suppose
that
it's
encouraging
to
note
that
RFI
one
required
all
these
things,
we've
been
talking
about
had
responses.
If
there
was
no
market
for
doing
it
and
I
know
the
response
to
have
been
reviewed
and
they're,
not
all
that
there
was
interest-
and
there
were
these-
you
know-
maybe
above
and
beyond
what
some
developers
normally
considered
part
of
the
development
costs
is
encouraging
and
I
would
say
just
my
opinion
would
be
the
infrastructure
investment.
The
city's
making
is
reducing
the
cost
of
development
considerably,
there's
things
that
will
be
there.
E
A
May
not
have
to
pay
for
all
of
it.
They
may
have
favor
some
of
it.
That's
obviously,
decisions
that
have
been
made
depending
review
of
those
proposals.
Those
are
all
good
questions.
That's
why
you
need
to
kind
of
understanding
the
premises
behind
development
goals
that
we
had
at
the
side.
So
we
can
better
understand,
as
we
start
to
get
into
decision
making
mode
we're
not
there
yet,
but
we
won't
be
there.
We've
been
there
fairly
soon,
so
I
did
hear
two
things
that
I
thought
should
be
on
our
next
agenda.
A
So,
as
we
better
understand,
you
know,
by
development
ordinance
and
its
impacts
on
the
project,
I'm
also
going
to
ask
the
board
to
think
about
other
things,
you'd
like
to
include
on
the
next
agenda.
We
don't
have
to
discuss
it
at
the
moment.
Unless
you
have
something
on
top
of
mind,
you
can
send
that
to
me.
I
usually
meet
with
kaisa
about
a
week
in
advance
of
our
agenda,
to
set
it
and
send
it
out,
or
you
always
take
a
look.
G
G
This
is
indeed
a
once
in
a
century
opportunity
to
take
24,
Acres
down
and
turn
into
something
new
and
and
encourage
the
ambitious
View
and
the
patient
that
this
may
not
happen
as
quick
as
I
mean
I'm
an
invitation
person,
but
it
may
not
happen
as
quickly
as
any
one
of
us
would
like
to
see,
but
the
the
role
of
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
would
write
and
do
it
in
a
way.
10
years
from
now
and
50
years
from
now,
let's
say
wow.
F
Just
maybe
just
a
quick
view
of
that
going
through
the
state
legislature.
Right
now
is
I
think
last
count:
500
million
dollars
worth
of
Future
Ready
Grant
Whoever.
Has
it
it's
going
to
be
tied
to
housing
and
some
other
things
that
are
structured
may
be
important
to
us.
So
it's
something
to
keep
in
mind.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
something
that
we
just
all
need
to
talk
about,
but
it
really
begs
up
there
are
you
heard
John
talk
about
the
ready
grant
for
Jackson
Street,
but.
F
F
Is
already
benefiting
from
some
of
the
ready
money,
but
there
is
a
lot
more
reading
than
he
coming
through
the
state.
Now
there
are
other
non-city
funds
that
we
need
to
continue
to
look
at
because,
as
you
saw
the
map
earlier,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
red
on
our
map
that
needs
infrastructure,
and
so
we
really
just
need
a
no
stone
under
you
know,
we
used
to
be
every
stone
needs
to
be
overturned
there,
but
it's
a
it's
an
awareness
that
we
need
to
figure
out.
F
B
E
I
F
I
mean
one
of
the
challenges
here
is
affordability
right,
but
housing,
it's
not
just
in
the
city
right,
it's
all
over,
and
so
that
is
a
platform
and
again
we'll
see
what
it
comes
through
the
budget.
What
are
going
to
do
the
strings,
the
title
and
what
do
they
really
want
to
spend
the
money
on,
but
it
sounds
like
there
could
be
some
things
out.
My
line.
A
A
Okay,
next
meeting
is
May
3rd.
Do
I
have
that
correct,
yeah,
two
weeks
agenda
topics
that
you'd
like
to
send
me
within
a
week
or
so.
If
you
don't
mind,
if
you
have
anything
you'd
like
to
know
about
same
time,
four
o'clock
same
room,
but
this
is
our
standing
meeting
with
emergency
will
be
determined
and
any
other
feedback
that
you
have
before
we
close
happy
to
undertaken.