City of Bloomington, Indiana Commission on Sustainability, 14 Jul 2020

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I'd like to call to order the july 10th meeting.

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Of the bloomington commission on sustainability.

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uh We'll go ahead and do a roll call and I'll just read.

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Read names off and you can wave at the screen or.

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Let me know if you're here, um anna abernathy.

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I'm here uh jared alexander here, corbin baird.

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uh Bronson bast.

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Theresa chakraborty.

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Samantha ginther here ethan horvath here.

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Johnna mcgee.

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Andrew predmore.

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Dave rallo.

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Nigel ratzong.

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See about dave warren.

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And uh pam weaver: this is nolan hinden. I just want to fill.

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In I'm, uh dave, warren's replacement from the.

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Monroe county environmental commission.

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Gotcha, thank you yep. That's just something. We need to update.

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Are you still there hi all did I freeze yeah? I think so.

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You aren't saying anything for a second.

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Okay, uh so you have a quorum. uh So can I have a um approval of agenda.

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A motion to approve the agenda seconded all in favor.

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um So at the last meeting we did not have.

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A quorum, I believe, so um we don't have minutes from that. Last.

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That's okay, I think all I'm not even sure if we have.

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Too many members of the public here too, um so you might be able to skip to.

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Your report, joe okay, yeah, I'm not seeing anyone on the zoo.

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Meeting uh so if we go to.

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uh So yeah report from chair, I don't have really anything new to report right.

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Now, uh um later on, in the agenda, we will be.

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Discussion discussing the bylaws, I hope some, I hope everyone kind of reviewed.

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Those before tonight's meeting, I think, there's some room for.

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Improvement within those bylaws so that we can more effectively.

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Operate as a commission.

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And that's really all I've got as a report from chair.

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uh So we'll go ahead to um report from esd lauren yeah. Thank you. um This is.

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Lauren travis assistant, director of sustainability,.

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I'm actually, I'm gonna spend the majority of my report giving a.

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Short presentation um right now we're working.

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On um climate action work, and so I will quickly switch to my.

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All right, um so I have a quick slideshow and this.

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Is from the sustainability action plan for.

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This year, one of the goals was to conduct a climate vulnerability.

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Assessment and what that really means is to have a.

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Better understanding of how climate change is going to affect not.

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Only the people of bloomington and monroe county, but our infrastructure.

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And our economy so very relevant to this group.

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um I wanted to give a quick update about where we.

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Are on that, so that's kind of the first one here we need to anticipate the.

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Impacts of climate change and then work on developing strategies.

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And especially, reaching out to communities that are at risk, so I.

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Prepared a quick slideshow of some of the initial findings. This will be.

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Ongoing for the rest of the year- and I will be.

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Presenting this, these findings to um city council.

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Probably in early september, because august is a lot of budgeting hearings.

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So this was um planned and anticipated for this year.

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And we're on schedule so far a little bit of a delay.

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With covet and everything, but wanted to look at making sure that the.

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Community is ready and is anticipating what's coming.

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Ahead in terms of climate impacts, and so we have a great resource here with the.

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Environmental resilience institute, which is at indiana university.

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And they had done some initial modeling, showing.

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Some findings that we were working from so.

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Impacts in the midwest for climate change include.

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Increased precipitation flood extreme hot days.

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Increased invasive species presence and vector-borne disease, so mosquitoes and.

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Ticks- and these are things that most people in.

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The community one surveyed have said that they are already experiencing, but.

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We know that under sort of a business as usual.

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Trajectory we've had a historical two days over 95.

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Degrees and that's anticipated by 2050 to become 50 days over 95 degrees and to.

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Have a lot more extreme, so higher hot days.

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And also a little bit milder colder days and then also just a big.

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Increase in spring rainfall so with all that in mind.

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I wanted to really look at how that is going to.

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Impact bloomington geographically, who that's going to impact.

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And what the consequences are so not only are those things.

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Bad and of themselves, they also affect people.

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If we have more hot days, then there's going to be impacts potentially to.

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People that can lead to injury or illness if.

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You have a large storm dehydration or heat stroke. Increased.

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Prevalence of disease disruption in food supplies and property.

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So, over the last couple of months, looking at which.

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Risks from climate change are most um prevalent or to be expected among.

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Residents, it's a little bit difficult to differentiate, but I put in bold the ones that are most problematic for bloomington um and those are extreme temperature.

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Flooding and air quality, although all of these will happen to some degree.

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So there's going to be extended periods of increased temperatures.

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And some of those impacts could be increased incidence of.

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Heat stroke or heat exhaustion, so if folks don't have somewhere, they can go.

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To and cool down some, for instance, if.

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You're homeless, that requires more calls to emergency.

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Medical services, flooding water intrusion in buildings, so.

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If there's standing water for a long period of time, that can cause property.

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Damage and mold growth and then increase air quality impacts.

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Pollen dust, fine particles and then some of these.

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We're seeing to some degree, even in the time dealing with a pandemic.

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So some infrastructure struggles with food insecurity.

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Stresses on the food system and then some other things that will be less.

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Prevalent in bloomington, but still present we're fortunate to have a good.

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Water supply right now, but we are expecting increased growth of.

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Algae which is challenging and then some.

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Climate risks to the economy, agricultural yields, I'm sure a lot of.

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You have heard about farming difficulties, crop losses if the.

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Weather is more variable, then it's more difficult for farmers to.

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Be able to anticipate what their yield is going to be.

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Energy expenditures, so when it's hotter people have to run the air conditioning.

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More often, and that also increases their energy.

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Burden if you're a lower income, that's very challenging.

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Labor productivity, if the temperature's hotter than work, that's typically.

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Outside, like construction, etc, um there's fewer hours in the day.

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Where it's safe to do that and then there's a small correlation.

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That we're expecting a small degree, more property-based crime, but not.

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Too much, um I think, one of the big takeaways and something that I wanted to.

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Talk to this group about is that we can look at the geographic.

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Impacts of some of these things and know that they're not going to be equally distributed so.

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um Difficult to look at, but in the top left corner.

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That is traffic flow, so you can see that if you live in the proximity of.

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I-69 you're going to have more particulate.

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Matter and pollution from cars that you have as.

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An environmental factor- and this brings into mind, like environmental.

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Justice, not everyone in the community, is experiencing.

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The same prevalence of different variables.

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This is um just a table that shows areas in which we're, above.

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State average one of them is super fun. Proximity there's a lot of.

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Sites in bloomington that used to be or are.

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Nearly qualified as superfund sites so hazardous waste proximity that can.

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um Is not evenly distributed across the community.

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And then who's vulnerable, so um children, older adults, individuals with.

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Disabilities, people that are economically stressed people of color, so there's just little icons here that show.

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Based on the information that we have, which of these climate risks that these.

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Groups of people are particularly sensitive to um if.

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You're economically stressed it's a struggle to deal with any of.

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These since you're, in a precarious financial situation- um but you know, if there's a disruption in power failure if you have a.

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Disability, that's harder to combat, and so just keeping in mind.

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As we move throughout the year um working with you all.

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To to learn to find out what we're learning through this process.

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And ways that um we can better serve the community.

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As they experience these risks, um so these are the main ones uh that are.

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Likely to happen so likelihood times impact.

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um The hazard ones, like I mentioned before so the summary.

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Of storms, extreme precipitation, flooding and then there's like differential risks.

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Of people, although they overlap but sensitivity to extreme.

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Air quality being those and then also infrastructure, so those are things that.

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Are going to be really costly, temperature variability affects our.

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Ability to maintain roads, you can see that if.

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It's fluctuating widely we've had a lot more potholes.

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Storm water management any time, there's flooding that causes.

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A great great deal of property damage and that's expensive.

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Energy demand and cost and as more people.

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Need heating and cooling that increases electricity need.

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And then just tree loss as the climate shifts.

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Trees are more or less viable, so this I just wanted to give you an.

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Update um this is just an initial uh initial results, so presenting.

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uh Full information industry members in early fall.

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um Those of you that are in working groups, especially I'm thinking of the.

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Waste one or some of the recent ones related.

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To policy, if you have an interest in um working.

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With me on some data collection or sharing with me, what you're learning about the sectors that you've been studying, that would be.

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Great and I just wanted to open it up to the group for any questions about that.

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And I'll switch back to the well I'll, keep it on the presentation. In case any of you wanted to go back to some of the slides, but.

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I will stop talking now.

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um Lauren, I guess I'd just be interested to learn more about what.

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Data how we can help with data collection, sure.

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That would look like yeah, so um I think that- and I can.

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Talk to you individually about this, but a lot of these.

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Indicators, we don't have a lot of information about, because we, this is our.

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First time we've really looked at climate vulnerability.

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um I was seeing some gaps as I was going through and thinking about do. We have.

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Any um good historical records of what.

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Floods have happened in bloomington just so we can document those.

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As a baseline, looking forward or frequency.

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Of high heat events experience locally or we have one ear, quality.

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Meter in bloomington it is on the east side of bloomington, so it doesn't.

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Reflect the west side, air pollution, but if we could just get a baseline on that.

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So that would be helpful, especially for city council, to be able to see variability over time if there were any of those categories that were.

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Climate risks that are interesting um to any of you, then we could.

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Talk offline, also about if you are interested in looking into.

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Some of those because um it's kind of a short time frame. But I think the more.

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Specific, we can be about both historical data.

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And then being able to track that moving forward.

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One of the things joe had on the agenda was.

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Because under the bylaws provides some sort of sustainability assessment.

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Every year, and if there were some of these climate hazards that because.

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Wanted to track yearly, it could be air quality. Then we.

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Can start to establish a more consistent baseline that can be provided to city council, okay,.

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That's helpful. Thank you. Yeah, of course,.

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Well, I will go back to the agenda. Let's see, oops.

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It's it's not without struggles doing this online.

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I think that's about it. We, I would, I guess my only other report is that.

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Budget hearings will be happening next month, so.

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For our department, economic, sustainable development.

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I think it's in the third week of august- and I can send out when that is.

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They I'm not sure exactly what format they'll be conducted in I'm.

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Assuming virtually, um but I can keep you guys apprised of that.

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um It's going to be an important year, um we're hoping that there won't be cuts.

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But we'll just have to see what the appropriation is from city council.

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So you're welcome to attend the live stream of not only our department, but if.

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There's any other um budget presentations that are of.

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Interest to the group, that's the next thing. That's kind of coming up on the.

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City daca, that's um of note and.

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um I will hand it back to joe for a discussion of bylaws.

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Thanks lauren, um would it be possible to put up a copy of the bylaws, or I mean we.

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Don't have to I'm just curious if it would be something readily.

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Do you have them up? I can allow you to share, or I could pull them out.

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All right pull them up too. I can get through them from.

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I can get to them pretty easily yeah. Okay, just give me a second.

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Jelly should be up. Let me know if you want me to scroll down.

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Okay, great yeah, um so the first thing that I'd kind of like to go over.

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Is if we go to, let's see.

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Article 2.4.

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So this base, so this covers the removal of commissioners and officers.

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And I know that we've been kind of going through an odd time.

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With coven 19. um but with, I think, the last two meetings.

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Maybe even three we didn't meet quorum.

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And in order to effectively perform our duties, we have to have a quorum, an older.

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In order to vote on resolutions and motions that we.

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uh That will extend outside of the commission.

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So you know, as we read this it's if you uh so this states that if you.

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Miss three consecutive meetings or, if you miss four within a 12-month.

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Period um so going forward. I I'd like to.

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Enforce that with more vigor, I guess um because, like I said earlier, it's kind.

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Of hard to get things done, if we don't have a quorum to meet to.

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Perform it to perform the actions that we are.

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Convened to do um is there any thoughts from the rest.

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Of the commission on that.

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I'm all bored for doing that honestly.

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Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

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Great, are there any thoughts about the the.

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Number of meetings does: does everyone feel that that's appropriate? um I mean if we change any of that. We'd have to do.

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A vote to the bylaw we'd have to amend the bylaws, which would require a.

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Two-Third vote um and unfortunately, since we do have.

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Issues meeting quorum. That would be an issue in amending the.

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By-Laws, I think those numbers seem appropriate.

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I agree: okay, great great joe. I do have a.

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Question will this be kind of you're planning on enforcing this going.

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Forward, or will this be starting at 2020, so if no one has joined.

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A meeting up until now, you're planning on moving towards.

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Removal just curious, so my plan for right now is to reach out.

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To some of the to reach out via email or phone, if I.

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Have the phone number, the commission members who have not shown in the last three meetings or have not shown within four in the last 12 months and kind of give them a heads up kind of give them a month, maybe leaning.

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A grace period and if they don't show up to the next meeting.

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Then I intend to kind of let them know you, you are.

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You you will be removed, I will be recommending you remove it from the commission. That makes sense. Thank you great.

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Yeah, I think that seems really.

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Reasonable joe, I have a question as a uh come new.

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Here, as I said earlier, I'm the president of.

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The monroe county, environmental uh commission- and I don't know if that.

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Means I have uh voting privileges on this or, if I'm.

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uh Just representing monroe county, you know.

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What the situation is there? No, that's. Actually a really good point.

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That was another thing I wanted to bring up kind of an inconsistency inconsistency within the bylaws. So uh if we look at article one.

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So yes, so it says we're consisting of 14 members.

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At the very beginning of them, the last sentence does say: all members shall have.

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A vote and shall serve without compensation, so I take that to mean that all 14 members, including.

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The appointed by other councils and the.

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The people, the members that they're part of the commission as part of their.

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um Duties to staff such as lauren, we all have.

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A vote, uh but then, if we look down at article.

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So yeah that's a typo in the bylaws that should be 2.4.

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Oh there we go yeah, so there there I'm kind of getting a.

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A disagreement it says unless otherwise specified a majority of the members.

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Serving accepting the non-voting ex-officio members constitute a quorum.

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For purpose of conducting the official business of the commission.

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So uh if someone would like to correct me.

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I I feel like there's a they're contradicting each other. um I I.

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Like the idea of everyone voting um everyone's here.

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For a reason, so everyone's opinion should be an input.

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um But as we can see that this does directly that 3.3.

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3.4 does directly correlate to a bloomington municipal.

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Code statute and and so does the other one.

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uh The requirement above as well so this this contradiction.

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Goes deeper than just our bylaws, I will say.

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um For I'm going to move forward with the.

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Understanding that all 14 members have a voting privilege, if there's a disagreement, we can.

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Certainly discuss that, but that's my position right now.

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Lauren, would you be able to scroll back up to the.

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Appointment, breakdowns.

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Yeah, so it looks as though um the liaison to the iu office of.

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Sustainability would be a non-voting member and then I believe and lauren correct me. If I'm wrong, you would.

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Also be a non-voting member correct, based upon this reading of it yeah. I.

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Don't think I vote and andrew or whoever would come from.

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Office of sustainability um would also not vote so it's you know.

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The voting members would be six from mayor six from council, and so I.

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Think the quorum saying you need to have a number of.

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Those 12 present not sure if it's a contradiction, but I I can look. I know it.

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If that's of concern.

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I would say, if anything, just we could maybe add something in clarifying.

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Exactly who the ex-officio members are.

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um Just so it's more clear to anyone. Reading the bylaws.

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That sounds like a good idea.

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So again, yeah any amendment to the bylaws.

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Since we are adhering to robert's, rule of order would require two-thirds of.

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The body to approve that change, I'm trying to think if.

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This would technically be considered the first reading and I'd have to be.

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I think it takes two readings before we can actually vote it into effect.

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And I'm no robertson of orders uh expert I brush up on it when I need to.

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Perform these meetings and that's about it.

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So do you need me to move down to a different section, uh so those were.

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Really the two big points that that I wanted to call.

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Everyone's attention.

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I think since I I do feel like we should also.

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Cover the, I can't think of what section is right now, the.

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Elect the election of officers, because I know several members on.

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The commission right now uh were new since the last election of officers.

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And, according to the bylaws, this meeting is actually when we're supposed to elect.

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Officers for the year, um the officers that are currently sitting.

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Myself included were elected in december.

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uh When the previous officers were leaving uh for personal reasons or just.

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They were, um uh they were uh reaching the end of their tenure.

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So as of right now, um there is no intention to.

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Hold an election at this meeting.

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Do we as a commission, especially with all the new.

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Members since december feel like we should.

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Hold an election to be held next month.

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Or at another time joe, can you read out who's currently.

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Serving in each of the positions, do you know that or I think uh yeah so.

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I am the chair. uh The vice chair is nashla. The secretary.

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Is pam weaver and the treasurer is corbin cool. Thank you.

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I think if everyone's happy I mean, since we just recently.

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Reelected people, I think, it'd, be fine to continue. The only thing is if.

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um To check if pam is still interested in serving because I know I haven't seen.

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Her on the calls, since we went virtual so if.

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She is stepping away, then we would then initiate a election for a new secretary. If that's all right with everyone yeah, I can reach out to pam and get her input.

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I just wanted to mention under annual meetings, since it is july.

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um They're, in parentheses, a sustainability assessment and so back in.

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2017, the commission did a pretty thorough review of certain.

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Sustainability indicators, I think it's sort of open.

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To interpretation what that means, you are all volunteers.

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um But I think that some of the data that I mentioned in the.

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Prior slide could qualify for that, um and so I can.

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Send around the type of.

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Information that would be helpful for an annual report that would be.

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uh Annually, updatable, because a lot of things that are sustainable indicators.

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We may not be able to get data on an annual basis for so.

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um If you provide feedback on that, I would view that, as like perfectly.

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Sufficient as a sustainability assessment as outside of that we do have the 2019 sustainable action plan, progress.

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Report that was a more comprehensive effort and if any of you had questions.

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About that as well, I don't expect anyone to replicate.

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Something of that size as a commission, but I think that.

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Coordinating with the environmental commission on some.

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Indicators wouldn't be a bad idea, especially if we're collecting information about waste, for instance, make sure that we're sharing that with.

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Their waste working group.

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I think in 2017 um it was. I never saw the final report.

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Because I moved to indy then so I had to step down from the council, but.

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A lot of the sustainability assessment indicators were based on the star's.

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Community indicators list which, looking at the.

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Sorry it's on my phone because my computer's having issues pulling up my.

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Gmail, a lot of them are similar to the sustainability progress report.

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um As lauren said, the sustainability progress report is a little more in.

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Depth than we ever got with the stars community data so.

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I may still have a lot of that on my google drive from when we did that so.

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I'll have to dig through that, and I can provide that for uh all the other council member commission members.

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This is what um it was: a nine page effort analysis, early assessment.

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Prepared by b coast to common council.

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And then there were energy use, water use and waste disposal.

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Estimates provided.

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I've been collecting those anyway for our greenhouse gas emissions report, but.

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There's other environmental metrics that aren't being collected so.

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That's where I think that we could have a conversation about.

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Some things that are potentially easier for.

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Citizens to collect without having to do requests to you know background or duke.

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Or the the utilities department but.

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For anyone, that's looking for it! If you go to the city website and you type in.

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Sustainability, commission, it comes up as 2017 assessment. There.

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Wasn't one completed um in 2018.

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Or 19 we've had kind of some fluctuation in membership, but I don't.

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I think it's useful just to get a good. You know sense of where the community is.

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Out on certain indicators, but I don't think it should be the entirety of the commission works on, because there's a lot of other things that you'll probably.

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Enjoy doing, besides, writing a report about.

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So, can you see the bylaws again yeah.

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Okay, good um was there anything else that you wanted to do on that joe.

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Those were the only things that I wanted to cover if there's anything else that other commissioners would like to discuss about. The bylaws.

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They are, they are free to do so.

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uh Okay, if there is no other comment for the bylaws or no further.

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Discussion um so.

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Yeah, the next item on the agenda is sustainability, action plan, progress.

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um And this is for the benefit of newer members.

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um It seems like a long time ago, but I presented the city council. I think in.

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February and we've had our sustainability action.

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Plan adopted for one full year now and as.

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Part of reporting requirements to council.

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It was a presentation to say you know what have we done.

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What are we working on and what have we not accomplished and.

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It's a good background on sustainability and, what's active in the community right.

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Now I also recommend going back and looking at the full plan, if you haven't had the opportunity to.

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I don't need to go through the whole thing, but this is the basic structure.

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So um this is a summary table and it talks about you know: what are we, what.

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Do we achieve last year what actions are in progress? You can see.

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That we had already started to initiate this vulnerability assessment.

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At the end of last year, and it will continue for the rest of 2020.

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So that's an action in progress and then it shows.

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Some actions that were not met and those are discussed in further detail in that.

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Section um this is relevant also if.

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For instance, you can go to down here and see if we're looking at.

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Waste um there's a lot left to figure out in that sector, which is one.

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Of the reasons that that was a working group that was created, um we do not have.

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A lot of park I mean we didn't meet the parthus in like waste recovery for.

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Instance, but I think one of the important things.

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Is is tracking both sources of contamination.

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And potentially um having this group provide further.

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Waste education um but yeah, so this is what joe was mentioning.

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um And it's a little bit more in-depth than the.

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2017 progress report, but it serves the same purpose. It sort of just.

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Tries to provide a comprehensive overview of what the actions were.

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Expected to be for that year and whether we met those targets.

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um I think if there's anything else.

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There's a little bit of.

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Further description in here, so that's also a good background. You know.

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If you're trying to figure out, you know, why did we not achieve.

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The goal in that particular section um it just mentions like what are the.

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Challenges we're experiencing what actions that we take. What what was.

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The big achievement from last year and then what's the focus for.

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Implementation this year, so um that's where we are with detail and.

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How climate change is affecting bloomington now how those vulnerabilities will change and upcoming decades.

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And then that will be completed by the end of the year. So.

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In case you didn't have the opportunity to see what that come in front of council. It's definitely of relevance to the commission um and if.

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Anything comes to mind after checking it or have any questions.

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Feel free to reach out to me about that as well.

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Are there any updates on the working groups.

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So I'll go ahead with the waste reduction. There really is nothing.

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To update uh to the commission concerning that.

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um I did we haven't met and I did send out an email.

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uh Recently can't think how recently, though, basically just requesting.

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Everyone who is on the subcommittee to familiarize themselves with the.

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Documentation that we have available and.

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Hopefully, before next meeting we can get get something get together in some way.

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uh To discuss a goal for this working group.

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And and lauren, I think we I would. I would really like your input.

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In terms of uh you know what the what the city would.

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Would what would be useful for the city from this commission in terms of waste.

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Sure I think that there's like two potential avenues.

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One was potentially creating resources for greater.

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Waste education or reduced contamination.

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So you could go that route and then I know that had discussed.

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Models from other cities about expanding composting programs.

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um Something else that if we were to do a quick assessment of.

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Not only one I mean, I think you talked to iowa city, but.

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Maybe comparing five different successful options for expanding.

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Composting opportunities, um more broadly across the city, that's.

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Definitely an area for improvement um so that, like either education or.

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An assessment of ways to expand that would probably be the best.

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Yeah, I know we have documents from iowa city and boston.

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um But it would be great to compare to do kind of a.

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A general investigation across other cities that had successful and unsuccessful plans and learn from them.

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Is there anyone here from the sustainable business working group that could provide an update.

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Oh I'm here and um there is no update and I think.

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I think it was a sustainable business certification, working group.

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In particular, um so maybe we should add that and.

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uh Weren't we discussing last time about dropping having this group drop.

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Off because the people who had uh started.

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With the certification are no longer on the commission,.

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Or was I am I misremembering it uh my if I'm remembering correctly, I.

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Believe it was the udo that was going to be altered. That's.

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Right: yeah, okay, I just mixed them up. Who else is on the sustainable business.

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uh Certification working group besides me, then.

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I believe uh bronson was and pam as well.

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Yes, other than those two I'm not sure okay and is pam, is pam still on the.

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Commission she is okay, uh she hasn't resigned so.

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I mean I haven't, I haven't, got any notification from her that she.

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Intends to leave the commission I did. I did want to share for.

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This group, someone reached out to me that's working on a project called.

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Carbon neutral indiana, it's being sponsored by the indiana.

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For science, to my knowledge- and they are trying to get people to commit.

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To carbon neutrality, I'm not exactly sure what that means. I.

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Would probably require reaching out to the person that's running this, but they.

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Do have a business calculator, um I'm not sure what.

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They're asking businesses to do in order to get this decal so.

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It may or may not be useful, but if you needed another action item for this.

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Group, since this is a new effort, um what they.

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Do they're making a map of progress.

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And if you click on measure businesses, carbon footprint,.

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They don't have bloomington listed. um I think in order for the commission.

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To participate and having businesses do this, we would need to figure out you.

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Know if it's basically legitimate, um if it's.

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A useful calculation of carbon footprint um because we wouldn't want you know.

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People to just participate kind of in a green, washing exercise. We really do.

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Want them to be able to substantively reduce their.

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You know energy and water use, um but I can share this.

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um In the chat and or in it I'll just put in an.

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Email and if someone wanted to reach out to.

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um I have the contact information of the person that says that they're working on.

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This um and see if it's worth following up on.

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Or not yeah, just uh just thanks for sharing.

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That this is uh this is nice to know about.

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And I think it's uh it I mean. Theoretically, I mean theoretically, it's.

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Legitimate, I mean it's just basic math, if you offset, if you buy carbon credits, to offset your carbon.

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Output, you can become carbon neutral, but the question is: how are they.

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Spending that money is it the best of those funds and.

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um I I think yeah it would take someone yeah who knows really how to check the.

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Credibility of that of the science behind it right of how.

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They're spending money, yeah.

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I mean just to make sure it's not. You know, like you said some.

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Something unethical to encourage people to do, because I.

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Mean in general, in theory, carbon neutral is perfect. It's great.

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You know it's always a good thing to be carbon neutral.

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Yeah, I think that um I'm sure the intentions are in the right place.

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There's a lot of times when there's carbon offsets, it's really important that that's them being reinvested locally.

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So if the carbon offset, for instance, went to.

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Indiana forest alliance and they were purchasing forest land.

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That would be awesome, but I just don't know so I'll send it.

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Send it out, um and that could be something since it's.

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Certification, focus, or you know, achievement, focus.

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And um follow-up and on yeah I will uh plan to reach out to them.

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Thanks, it says it's fiscally sponsored by the indiana forest alliance here at.

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The bottom of the screen- carbon neutral indiana, is fiscally.

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Sponsored by the indiana forest alliance, so.

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uh You know it may maybe sounds like it's a.

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Legitimate org but yeah I will contact them and.

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um I think kind of covered the policies when it's.

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A little bit, I don't know that we have a formal membership on that, but.

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I will follow up about being involved more in the cloud action.

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Plan um for those of you that are interested in.

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That and then I think we could move if anyone had new.

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Business they wanted to bring up.

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um So yeah, I don't have any new business and I didn't see anyone else.

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Raise their hand either.

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So we'll be back in person, I don't know yeah we'll see, yeah have.

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You have you heard any talks within the city about.

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Having uh in-person meetings, you know, I know, we've.

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We're in an uptick, so I don't know if that's really.

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Plausible right now, I'm not sure I mean they.

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We were definitely going to be virtual until we.

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Finish uh until july 4th, and so I think, for all the july meetings that.

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We're extending it um but we'll just have to see, because.

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Typically, you're not supposed to conduct in a normal circumstance in order to.

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Have access for folks, it's obviously better.

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To be in person, and so the virtual meetings.

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Are challenging for people that don't, for instance, have internet access.

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But we'll just have to see I'll try to give you guys as much notice as I can.

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About what the rest of your is going to look like.

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But just as a background, I'm not sure that anyone's really.

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Meeting for any purposes right now in person, this is considered a.

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um I don't know like I think that it would probably be lower on the list.

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Of things to get phased back in in person, I'm sure that city council will probably be meeting together before you know because would.

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Mean be meeting in mccloskey, but it's hard to really say we'll just see.

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What the trends look like in the meantime, if you have any feedback.

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For joe right, a way to make this a little bit smoother.

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We'll try to figure out the transitions between the sections a little bit.

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But another thing is: if there's topics that you.

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Or topics or speakers that you'd like us to invite.

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um As part of you know, the following month's meetings.

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Just let us know as well.

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Okay, uh I guess if there is no more, if there's.

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Nothing else to discuss, uh I will go ahead and.

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Move for adjournment, our next meeting will be on tuesday.

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11Th thanks everyone.

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