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A
Okay,
we
have
quorum.
So
let's
get
started.
B
C
A
D
E
So
this
is
a
continuation
from
the
february
11th
hpc
meeting.
We
asked
the
petitioner
to
come
back
more
information
specifying
certain
details
about
the
project
tonight.
E
E
Staff
is
recommending
approval
of
2108
we've
gotten
some
more
visualizations.
Here
you
can
see
we're
going
to
open
up
some
transoms
above
the
doors
we're
going
to
resize
this
to
be
slightly
larger,
so
you
can
see
it
there.
E
Mark's
designed
this
it's
going
to
be
no
railings
on
the
porch,
because
it's
going
to
be
open
and
then
we
have
these
as
well.
I
submitted,
or
I
sent
an
email
to
the
hpc
about
three
hours
ago.
With
these,
when
I
got
them,
I
sent
them
to
you.
So
hopefully
all
the
specifications
look
like
they're.
They
were
there
to
me
but,
like
I
said,
if
you
have
any
more
questions,
please
direct
those
to
mark,
but
staff
would
recommend
approval
as
presented.
F
I
would
just
like
to
add:
I
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
attend
the
last
meeting.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah?
Okay,
that
I
was
not
able
to
attend
the
last
meeting.
I've
had
some
health
issues
on
and
off
and
trying
to
get
back
into
the
swing
of
things,
and
hopefully
these
drawings
clarify
some
of
the
questions
that
came
up
at
the
last
hearing
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
F
We
are
going
to
look
at
the
reuse
of
the
limestone
steps.
You
know.
They're
gonna
have
to
be
reset
they're
all
over
the
place
in
terms
of
rise
and
run,
so
we
have
to
meet
ode
implications,
but
we
will
try
and
re
salvage.
You
know
the
ones
that
that
are
that
are
possible
and
then
we'll
need
to
reset
the
ones
that
go
up
onto
the
porch
as
well.
Those
are
not
original.
F
H
F
I
think
we
would,
you
know
we
would
try
and
reset
all
the
all
the
lower
level
so
that
they
meet
rise
and
run
specifications
right
at
the
time
of
the
of
the
remodel.
H
F
A
G
Any
questions,
yes,
my
question
has
to
do
with
the
retaining
wall
at
the
sidewalk.
We
had
conversation
last
time
about
that.
That's
really
part
of
the
the
streetscape,
and
so
what
are
your
plans
mark
to
keep
it
safe,
of
course,
and
functional,
but
not
have
it
disappear?
Keep
it
retained.
F
D
Sam,
yes
mark,
has
there
been
any
investigation
done
as
to
what's
under
the
current
sighting.
F
The
sighting
is
in
pretty
rough
shape
from
what
we've
seen
so
far.
You
know
that
once
that
vinyl
gets
pulled
off,
we'll
certainly
take
another
look
at
that,
and
what
I
would
suggest
sam
is
that
at
the
time
that
the
the
exterior
selective
demo
gets
completed,
we
could
review
that
with
conor
and
see
if
there's
anything
worth
salvaging.
F
D
Gotcha,
so
the
the
railing
you
were
talking
about
with
chris
sterbaum
was
the
one
from
the
secondary
stairs
down
to
the
street
right.
D
Gotcha
and
from
the
last
submission
to
this
one,
it
looks
like
all
the
deck
rail
in
the
back
has
changed
from
like
a
goat,
fencing
to
more
of
a
picket
yeah.
It
would
pick
it.
F
Is
an
existing
roof
that
we
would
do
some
repair
on
and
you
know
try
and
obviously
there's
been
some
roof
leaks
over
time.
That
middle
section
is
completely
collapsed
in
and
yeah,
and
so
we
would
need
to
you
know
we'll
pull
off
all
those
old
roofs
of
the
porches,
and
you
can
see
where
the
plastic
is
on
the
right
hand,
edge
of
that
picture.
F
Well,
the
problem
with
a
6
and
12
is
that
addition
is
so
wide
that
that
would
become
a
dominant
piece
of
the
architecture
and
as
connor
and
I
have
discussed
over
time.
I'm
a
big
fan
of
making
sure
that
the
old
gable
l
is
the
dominant
architecture
and
that
this
becomes
a
secondary
piece
of
architecture.
Not
a
primary
piece.
F
It
does
I
mean
you,
as
you
can
imagine
from
this
photo
that
conor
has
up
now
when
you're
standing
at
the
lower
elevation.
All
you
see
is
the
eve
line,
and
actually
we
kind
of
like
that
that
you
really
don't
see
the
roof
at
all
on
that
back
section,
it's
say.
Unfortunately,
it's
just
so
wide
it's
about
26
feet
wide,
and
you
know
when
you
start
putting
a
steep
pitch
on
that
it
starts
to
look
like
a
suburban
volume,
not
a
not
a
traditional
core
neighborhood
volume.
F
24
four
yeah:
it
used
to
go
over
the
porch
and
it
won't
do
that
anymore.
So
yeah,
it's
a
little
bit
narrow,
but
you
know
the
volumes
that
you
typically
see
in
the
core.
Neighborhoods
are
14
and
16
foot
widths,
20
foot's
a
little
bit
wide
I'd
like
to
not
highlight
it
too
much,
but
we
certainly
would
take
recommendations
from
from
the
group
gotcha.
D
And
then
the
only
other
question
I
got
is
the
front
porch
column
wrap
is
called
out
as
vinyl
column
wrap.
What's
that
about
it's
just.
F
A
synthetic
product
like
azac
or
some
some
synthetic
trim.
You
know
the
dilemma
these
days
is:
what
do
you
use?
You
know
cedar,
doesn't
paint
very
well
treated
material,
isn't
good
enough.
You
know
you
can't
get
redwood
and
you
have
you
kind
of
come
down
to
hardy,
trim
the
cement,
siding
or
some
of
the
synthetic
plastic
products
and.
D
Have
you
tried
that,
have
you
tried
the
coal
dust-based
stuff
that
takes
paint
really
well.
F
D
I
still
hate
vinyl,
it
doesn't
recycle,
it's
not
an
environmental
material.
So
I
you
know
if
you've
got
an
option,
I'd
push
it
towards
using
something:
that's
more
environmentally
sustainable.
D
A
I
I
had
a
question
about
the
front
steps
also.
I
was
interested
in
them
because
in
your
picture
they
look
like
they
were
hand.
Chisel.
I
Do
the
ones
that
go
around
the
side
and
drop
into
the
backyard
do
are
those
also
hand
chisel
or
that
something
else
I
didn't
go
in
the
air.
Those.
F
I
J
B
I
So
you
might
find
more
when
you're
digging
around
down
there
and,
I
think,
probably
historically,
that's
probably
the
most
original
part
of
the
whole
house,
the
handshake
steps
and
the
most
unusual
and
interesting.
So
if
you
guys
could
reuse
that
I'd
really
really
like
to
see
those
steps,
reused.
F
We,
like
reusing
things.
Obviously
that
means
we
don't
have
to
buy
more,
but
you
know,
but
at
the
same
time,
the
code
and
this
and
the
riser
heights
and
things
we
need
to
adhere
to
as
well.
I
think
we'll
try
and
make
both
of
those
history
and
code
things
come
together
as
best
we
can.
Okay.
A
K
Sorry
yeah
this
little
mute
thing
always
kind
of
you
know
holds
me
up.
I
don't
have
any
questions
great.
A
H
F
F
Of
course,
of
course,
we'll
look
at
those
details
and
see
what
we
can
find
yeah,
if
there's
a
large
freeze
board
up
there,
if
there's
any
any
lacy
trims
or
anything
around
an
old
column
at
the
porch,
we
would
certainly
start
there.
H
F
Yeah,
it's
it
needs
something.
Doesn't
it
because
the
gable
is
is
obviously
the
window's
undersized
now
and
that
throws
it
off,
but
that
extra
bit
of
height
you
could
imagine
a
12-inch
freeze
board
or
something
up
there.
You
know.
H
See
what's
there
because
you
have
a
real
opportunity
to
show
that
face,
and
that's
that
could
be
a
great
seller
selling
point
of
the
house
too.
H
A
One
other
thing
before
we
move
on
to
comments.
The
subcommittee
for
who
created
hospital
is
in
favor.
L
G
D
Thanks
appreciate
the
changes
you
guys
have
made
since
the
last
meeting,
and
I
hope
you
guys
especially
you
mark,
I
hope
you've
continued
to
feel
better.
Thank
you.
J
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
vast
improvement.
I
think
it'll
be
an
exciting
project
and
I
wish
everyone
well
on
it.
It's
it's
going
to
be
a
big
project,
but
I
think
it'll
be
amazing
when
you're
done.
E
Dee,
please
just
note
that
bernard
cross
just
entered
the
meeting
at
5
19..
I'm
sorry.
H
C
I
moved
to
approve
coa
21-08
213,
south
people,
street.
D
G
M
E
All
right,
this
is
a
118
cell
college
street
petitioner
lupus
properties.
Victor
gutierrez
should
be
here
representing
them
tonight.
This
is
a
bozart
commercial
structure
built
around
1925..
E
Its
rating
is
notable,
it's
known
as
the
harlow's
building
and
the
storefront
that
we're
seeing
here
was
damaged
last
year
and
was
struck
by
an
automobile
accident,
as
you
can
see
in
some
pictures
here.
So
really
the
this
section
here
was
the
part
that
was
damaged.
E
You
can
see
from
the
inside
of
the
store
here.
This
metal,
framing
you
can
see
on
here
is
original.
We
believe
it
was
bronze
and
it
kind
of
has
some
neat
little
decorative
elements
in
it,
but
that's
gonna
have
to
be
replaced.
E
So
if
you
look
over
here,
this
is
120
south
college.
This
is
what
they're
going
to
make
the
damage
section.
Look
like
they're
gonna,
remove
a
door
which
we
don't
think
was
original.
We
think
it
would
probably
look
like
this.
If
you
look
at
the
entire
facade.
E
Sorry,
can
everyone
make
sure
they're,
muted.
E
So
this
is
not
gonna.
Look
like
this,
I'm
not
sure
on
the
material,
the
metal,
framing
material-
that's
gonna,
be
used.
I
think
victor
can
speak
more
to
that.
They
were
looking
at
a
couple
different
options.
I
would,
I
would
recommend
you
know
the
using
bronze.
I
think
the
profile
will
be
a
little
closer
to
the
original
one.
More
element
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
here
today
is
this.
This
is
going
to
be
removed.
E
This
is
a
restoration
type
activity,
at
least
based
on
what
we
think
is
architectural
evidence,
so
staff
looking
at
this
would
really
recommend
approval
of
coa2107.
N
Yeah,
so
for
the
metal
frame
on
118,
we
have
been
looking
for
the
the
closest
metal
we
might
be
able
to
find
to
match
that,
but
we
have.
We
have
not
found
anything
that
closely
resembles
the
historical
one.
We
did,
however,
get
a
sample
for
an
anodized
aluminum
frame,
which
would
be
powder
coated
in
dark
bronze
to
match
the
the
color
of
the
original
and
get
as
close
as
we
can
to
that
original.
Look
of
the
of
the
metal.
D
Sam
yeah,
what
manufacturer
are
you
planning
to
use
and
what
size
profile
are
you
trying
to
use
and
what's
the
door
size
that
you're
going
to
use
and
what's
the
door
profile
that
you're
going
to
use
the
door.
D
So
it's
it
just
goes
all
the
way.
I'm
sorry,
I
apologize
so
track
that
back
to
the
storefront
profile,
size
and
also
it
looks
like
there's.
You've
got
that
bronze
beam.
That
goes
runs
above
the
system.
I
assume
that's
going
to
stay
and
the
nana
it
looks
like
none
of
the
base
and
the
the
base
limestone
pieces
are
going
to
be
replaced
in
the
same
size
with
the
same
cuts.
Yes,.
N
Yeah,
so
the
the
stone
in
the
middle
would
be
replaced.
That's
it
was
one
of
the
ones
damaged.
We
would
be
keep
keeping
the
one
to
the
to
the
right,
as
that
one
did
not
take
damage
from
the
hit,
and
then
we
would
be
adding
a
new
one
on
the
where
the
door
currently
is
to
support
the
window,
and
these
would
be
made
to
look
as
the
originals
as
well.
N
N
E
Thank
you
and,
unfortunately,
the
contractor
who's
rusty
peterson.
You
guys
he's
been
in
front
of
us
before
he
wasn't
able
to
make
the
meeting
tonight.
He
would
have,
I
think,
a
lot.
A
lot
of
those
specifics
for
you,
sam.
C
Yeah,
so
if
I
understand
this
right
and
the
door
is
going
away
and
they're
going
to
be
using
new
window
material,
will
that
new
material
match
the
other
storefronts
that
it's
already.
E
There,
john,
it
won't
be
exactly
the
same.
It
sounds
like
they
kind
of
want
to
go
with
an
anodized
aluminum,
and
we
believe
this
is
brass.
E
Obviously
it
has
some
patina
on
it,
so
it
has
a
color
and
the
profiles,
I
don't
believe,
will
be
identical
and,
like
I
said,
it'll
be
a
different
material,
but
I
think
they're
going
to
try
to
replicate
it
as
closely
as
possible.
C
So
what
I'm
asking
then
is
is
the
storefront
for
bent.
Is
that
the
original
brass
that
was
there
to
start
with
yeah.
O
A
I
Yeah,
just
a
quick
question
about
the
right-hand
thing
where
the
limestone's
going
to
be
removed
from
between
the
doors
so
that'll,
those
will
be
the
doors
for
the
whole
building.
Then
the
only
entrance
to
the
front
victor.
I
Okay,
are
you,
are
you
doing
anything
with
the
doors
they
look
like
they're
original
to
me,
but
I'm
not
sure.
Are
you
keeping
them
the
way
they
are.
K
Yeah,
these
bronze
storefronts
I've
worked
on
several
of
them
and
it's
I've
never
found
the
replacement
material
that
matches
them.
To
my
knowledge,
I
don't
know
of
anybody
who
makes
it
anymore,
but
I
have
had
it
repaired
and
I
wonder
if
the
petitioner
has
considered
that
because-
and
I
don't-
I
can't
see
how
bad
it
is
here
and
there,
but
it
can
be
straightened
and
it
can
be,
it
can
be
repaired
depending
on
how
bad
the
damage
is.
K
K
Mainly,
they
don't
reproduce
it
because
it's
not
set
up
to
take
thermal
pain
unit
units,
so
people
just
stop
it
just
stopped
using
it.
So
when
it's
damaged
like
this,
that's
pretty
it's
all.
She
wrote
but
you're
not
going
to
have
a
match.
I
mean
you
can
color
it,
but
standard
storefront
is
a
rectangular
profile.
It's
much
heavier!
Looking!
K
It's
it's
not
going
to
match,
so
I'm
just
suggesting
that
it
might
be
worth
looking
at
having
it
repaired
by
an
artisan.
Compare.
You
know
if
you
want
those
all
to
match,
because
this
is
going
to
be
a
an
eyesore
in
the
middle
of
this.
Otherwise
original
building.
N
Comment,
we
have
looked
into
repairs,
the
the
storefront
did
take
quite
a
bit
of
damage
and
another
issue
would
be
with
the
extension
to
where
the
door
is
we
would
have
to
we
don't
we
wouldn't
have
any
existing
material
to
extend
to
that
side.
Everything
is
being
replaced.
G
A
D
D
The
other
thing
is
I'd.
D
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
more
information
on
what
height
you're,
using
on
the
the
base
at
the
replacement
of
the
bay
to
the
north
or
the
right,
and
I
would
actually
advocate
that
we
table
this
until
we
get
manufacturer
information
and
model
series
from
either
the
contractor
or
the
participant
or
the
sorry,
the
applicant,
because
that's
going
to
make
a
huge
difference,
you
can
get
store
front,
that's
inch
and
three-quarter
as
opposed
to
2-inch,
and
you
know
like
an
anodized
oil
rub
bronze
and
it's
not
going
to
be
what's
there.
E
Victor
just
to
clarify
you
know
you
are
going
to
be
replicating
this.
This
is
just
kind
of
an
error
with
the
red
air.
With
the
red
lines,
you
are
going
to
be
replicating
the
the
width
of
these
three
panes
in
in
this.
This
replacement,
correct.
A
N
And
for
the
glass
there'll
be
a
quarter
inch
thick,
clear,
tempered
glass,
but
I
will
work
on
getting
the
the
manufacturer
that
we'll
be
using
for
that.
A
I
Sam
already
commented
on
the
size
of
the
windows,
which
is
what
I
was
going
to
comment
on,
to
make
sure
to
match
them
up,
because
there's
three
at
least
three
sets
it's
a
three
or
four
sets
above
and
below,
and
when
you
looking
up
and
down
and
across
it'll
it'll,
really
stick
out
if
it's
not
the
same
proportion
as
the
other
fronts,
because
the
rest
of
them,
as
you
see
above
it
is
four
and
those
all
match
across
and
then
below
it.
I
You've
got
three
and
then
three
and
then,
if
you,
if
you
get
off
it's,
even
the
the
one
to
the
right,
where
you're
going
to
replace
the
center
pane
there,
you
can
see
that's
also
wider
in
the
middle,
and
then
the
doors
are
narrower.
So
it's
kind
of
echoing,
where
the
doors
are.
K
Yeah
they're
actually
distinct
from
one
another.
At
least
they
have
been
until
now,
they're,
not
all
the
same.
One
is
recessed
a
little
bit,
and
but
they
do
all
have
that
bronze
storefront
in
them,
and
I
agree
with
sam.
I
think
we
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
clarify
what
that
material
is
because
I
I've
I've
used
what
I
think
they're
talking
about
before
and
it's
it's
gonna
really.
It's
gonna
really
make
a
difference,
and
this
is
a
this
is
a
you
know.
A
E
So
they
want
a
thinner
profile
right,
like
sam
said,
one
three-quarter
inch.
A
D
B
A
C
J
B
E
Okay,
victor.
Thank
you.
You
get
that
information
to
me
and
I'll
get
you
on
the
next
meeting,
which
is
marshall,
evan,.
E
J
E
Will
have
a
hip
roof
with
a
612
pitch
four
inch,
fiber
lap,
fiber
cement
lap,
and
there
will
be
four
one
over
one
windows.
I
got
the
feedback
I
got
from
the
local
review.
Community
district
review
committee
was
support
for
the
project
and
I
don't
see
any
reasons
looking
at
the
design
guidelines
or
otherwise
why
this
should
be
denied,
so
staff
would
recommend
approval
of
2a2109.
E
D
Two
questions
one's
a
sort
of
a
clarification
question.
I
see
in
the
proposal
that
the
fiber
cement
is
slated
to
have
a
wood
grain.
Is
that
true.
Q
Q
A
C
Hi
steve,
I
don't
have
any
questions.
It
looks
like
a
very
good
project.
A
Bernard
nope,
no
questions.
J
Q
Q
May
I
add
something
please
sure
I
have
this
is
this
is
on
me.
Unfortunately,
I've
just
become
aware
that
the
the
we
were
trying
to
mimic
a
historic
design
on
this
property
of
an
older
home
that
I
saw
a
photograph
of
the
the
four
windows
in
that
13
foot.
Wide
dormer
are
not
wide
enough
for
code.
Unfortunately,
so
we
may
have
to
switch
to
three
windows.
K
No,
I
don't
have
any
questions
except.
I
wonder
why
you're
not
retired
steve.
P
Have
much
fun,
you
know?
No,
I
I'm
actually
saying
yes
to
all
the
phone
calls
I'm
getting.
A
lot
of
people
are
counting
on
me
to
get
in
there
and
help
them
resolve
things,
and
so,
as
long
as
I
keep
enjoying
helping
people
and
to
like
the
process,
I
keep
saying
yes
and
then
every
once.
While
I
ask
that
same
question,
hey
I'd
like
to
do
some
writing
or
some
sculpture
or
some
traveling
or
something
it's
around
the
corner.
Q
H
Q
Certainly,
there's
going
to
be
trim
and
if
you
prefer
siding,
that's
fine
with
me.
I
think.
H
H
G
D
D
The
the
other
thing
that
I
would
advocate
for
is
to
match.
D
Well,
if
it's
it's
hard
to
tell,
but
if,
if
there's
original
trim
on
the
lower
floor,
just
match
the
proportions
of
the
lower
trim
on
the
stuff
you
use
upstairs,
but
otherwise
I
think
it's
it's
a
great
project
and
I
wouldn't
have
a
problem
with
connor
doing
a
staff
approval
on.
I
assume
it's
an
escape
window
for
a
bedroom
that
you're
having
issues
with.
Q
K
A
Comment:
okay,
I'm
entertaining
a
motion
and
we
need
to
address
the
windows.
D
I'll
I'll
move
to
approve
coa
21-09,
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
one
that
you
use
smooth
sided
siding
on
the
upper
portion
of
the
dormer
and
also
match
the
size
of
the
existing
trim
down
below,
and
also
that
the
window
configuration
is
subject
to
staff
approval.
B
B
D
B
H
May
I
make
one
comment
sure
I
I
have
had
to
sometimes
use
a
casement
window
that
looks
like
a
double
hung
to
get
the
clearance
that
we
need
there
for
exit.
So
I
just
that's
just
a
bit
of
of
experience.
There.
P
H
P
E
E
Appears
to
be
in
in
fine
condition,
at
least
from
the
outside,
although
the
applicant
david
carrico
who's
with
us,
can
talk
more
about
that.
If
you
want
to
hear
about
it,
but
just
looking
at
it
recursory
view,
I
wouldn't
recommend
designation
of
the
structure
and
I
would
recommend
releasing
demolition
delay.
R
Can
you
hear
me
yeah?
Okay,
great,
I
know
I
don't
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
add.
I
just
yeah.
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
proceed.
We
want
to
build
a
house,
a
decent
house
for
my
daughter
actually
to
move
in
here
and
this
house
is,
is
you
know
it
has
just
got
over
seven
foot
ceilings
inside
it's
got
a
kitchen
on
the
back
that
I
think
used
to
be
a
back
porch.
R
That's
on
a
slab
that
yeah
you
have
to
walk
down
two
steps
into
the
kitchen
and
right
now
I
don't.
I
don't
think
it
was
ever
on
a
ever
ever
built
on
a
foundation,
at
least
that
part
of
the
house
and
it's
leaking
and
that
slab
has
heaved
over
time.
R
And
it's
just
you
know
it's
just
not.
I
had
a
contractor
in
there
a
while
back
and
he
said
it's
not
worth
putting
any
money
into
the
house
because
it's
it's
pretty
much,
you
know
almost
you
have
to
completely
tear
it
down
and
maybe
save
one
wall
or
something
so
I
mean
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
great.
Thank
you.
A
I'm
going
to
remind
the
commission-
and
it
looks
like
we
have
some
members
of
the
public
here.
This
is
demolition
delay.
We
don't
have
any
say
about
any
feature
use
of
this
site,
but
we
have
control
over.
We
either
release
the
permit,
or
we
recommend
this
for
a
historic
designation
to
the
city
council.
A
O
Comment
from
this
is
jan
sorby
and
yeah.
To
I
I
know
there's
nothing
that
can
be
done.
I
know
this
house
does
not
stand
on
its
own
to
become.
You
know
historic
site
on
its
own,
but
I
I
have
to
say
that
I've
I
walked
around
and
the
condition
looks
fine
to
me.
I've
worked
on
many
many
houses
myself
and
that's
not
the
point.
O
The
point
is
is
that
the
owner
wants
to
do
something
different
with
it,
and
you
know
I
I
don't
begrudge
david
from
wanting
to
do
this
he's
a
well-known
landlord
in
our
neighborhood
and
sure
his
daughter
might
live
there
for
a
few
years.
I
think
that
this
is
a
sign
of
things
to
come.
I
will
say
that
this
is
no.
It's
not
a
historic.
District
years
ago
the
bryant
park
neighborhood
began
doing
a
historic
district
nancy.
O
He
said,
began
drying
up
maps
and
before
we
could
even
get
started
there
were
so
many
landlords
in
the
neighborhood
who
called
the
city
that
the
neighbors
the
few
neighbors
we
only
have
about
41
percent
owner
occupied
in
bryant
park,
and
it
was
just
beyond
so.
We
are
in
a
situation
in
bryant
park
where
there
are
so
many
landlords
that
we
couldn't
get
protection
from
landlords,
and
I
don't
begrudge
landlords
for
making
money.
O
I'm
a
landlord
myself
and
I
suspect
I
don't
know,
I
suspect
david-
will
build
a
nice
house
there
and
I
suspect,
when
his
daughter
leaves
it
will
become
the
first
of
maybe
six
bedroom
duplexes
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
think
this
is
our
future,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
real,
serious
question.
If
we're
willing
to
throw
away
a
neighborhood
like
brian
park
or
waterman,
that
is
indeed
a
historic
neighborhood,
but
relies
on
the
fabric
of
context
rather
than
a
much
like
mcdole,
rather
than
super
duper
beautiful
houses
along
washington
and
lincoln.
O
We
do
have
some
outstanding
houses,
but
for
the
most
part
it
is
the
the
fabric
that
makes
the
wonderful
thing
about
wonderful
character,
brian
parks.
So
I
just
want
to
have
my
voice
heard
saying
that
this,
and
even
if
david,
does
not
build
a
six
bedroom
duplex.
I
just
want
my
voice
to
be
heard
that
this
is
the
start
of
what
our
future
is
going
to
be
like,
and
I
think
that's
a
serious
question
for
historic
preservation.
O
No,
that's
not
true.
Our
three
allow
a
duplex
if
the
if
the
changes
are
passed
right.
A
Well,
that
hasn't
happened
yet
true,
and
I
would
my
experience
in
that
in
your
neighborhood.
Is
that
that's
becoming
there's
a
higher
percentage
of
older
occupants
than
that
41
percent,
and
then
it
might
be
time
to
rethink
about
historic,
designation.
O
Actually,
I
went
through
every
single
property
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
could
determine
what
was
owner-occupied
now,
the
the
houses
that
one
could
not
determine
if
they
were
owner
occupied
they
might
be,
they
might
have
their
like
david's
talking
about,
they
might
have
their
kids
living
there
and
have
the
taxes
sent
to
a
different
address.
O
There
are
several
houses
that
are
exclusively
owner
occupied,
but
they
are
used
for
airbnb
exclusively,
and
so
I
went
through
every
property
in
the
neighborhood.
Looked
it
up
on
the
gis,
I
could
determine
what
was
owner
occupied
and
it
is
41,
and
that
does
not
count
the
apartment.
Building.
Okay,
great.
M
Yes,
hi,
I
live
at
804
south
grant,
so
I'm
the
house
right
next
door
north
and
I
was
just
tuning
in
to
see
you
know
what
what
the
plans
were
and
like
what
size
house.
We
were
you
thinking
about
putting
up
there
and
stuff
like
that,
robert.
J
L
I'm
susan
bright
and
I'm
just
on
here
more
like
jan,
was
to
voice
my
opinion
of
re-visiting,
the
historic
district
district.
I
appreciate
what
steve
miller
had
done
and
designed
a
house
that
was
in
the
historic
district's
template.
I
guess,
and
I
live
around
the
corner
in
the
next
block
and
my
cousin
lives
next
door.
L
He
just
spoke
804,
south
or
yes
south
grant,
and
I
just
hope
that
we
give
more
consideration
to
these
houses
that
are
being
demolished
and
sitting
here
with
a
bunch
of
empty
lots
in
our
neighborhood,
because
I
don't
think
that
looks
good
either.
I
I
like
to
look
at
this
little
yellow
house,
I'm
sure
david's,
correct
and
it's
not
worth
restoring,
but
just
an
empty
lot
also
is
disturbing.
It's
just
like
an
empty
vacant
building
with
no
one
in
it.
L
H
E
There
is
no
vote
that
happens
chris
with
a
creation
of
a
historic
or
conservation
district.
There's
no
vote
required.
The
only
requirement
by
the
city
is
that
the
applicants
host
two
public
information
meetings,
and
I
was
going
to
suggest
to
ms
bright
that
if
you
know
they
want
to
explore
becoming
a
historic
district
again,
you
know
that's
certainly
an
avenue.
That's
that's
open
and
I
could
work
with
them
on
that.
But
but
just
wanted
to
address
what
you
said.
There
isn't
any
kind
of
vote
required
by
the
property
owners.
J
A
K
By
way
of
clarification,
if
you're
confused
by
our
action,
we
only
have
two
options:
we
can
either
put
something
up
for
designation
to
the
city
council
or
basically
allow
allow
the
demolition
to
go
forward,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
criteria
that
we
look
at
for
what
we
think
is
worthy
of
historic
designation
context
happens
to
be
one
of
them,
jan,
but
are
pretty
we're
pretty
much
strapped
in
a
situation
like
this,
and
so
designation
or
conservation
district
is
really
the
only
the
only
opportunity
that
you
have
if
you
want
to.
K
If
you
want
to
slow
down
the
demolition
game-
and
I
I
definitely
encourage
you
to
do
it.
R
I
I
have
one
if
that's
okay,
I
just
want
to
respond
to
jan's
comments
here.
I
I
have
to
say
that
you're
reading
way
too
much
into
this,
my
daughter
has
a
good
job
at
the
hospital
and
plans
to
stick
around
town
for
some
time.
I'm
gonna
deed,
this
property
to
her.
R
R
Actually
I
didn't
even
realize
it,
but
if
I
wanted
to,
I
could
build
two
small
houses
on
it
and
I
could
max
it
out
that
way
if
I
wanted
to,
but
that's
not
my
plan,
my
plan
is
for
my
daughter
to
have
a
decent
place
to
live
and
all
that-
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
that
that
I
think
we're
getting
carried
away,
sometimes
envisioning
the
stuff.
That's
that's
just
not
the
case.
It's
not
not
gonna
happen,
so
I
I
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
as
to
what
the
truth
is.
D
G
A
E
Just
one
kind
of
procedural
thing-
and
I'm
gonna
start
saying
this
at
the
beginning
of
meetings,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
everybody
mute
their
mics
unless
they
are
speaking.
That's
members
of
the
public
and
commissioners
as
well.
We've
had
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
that
this
meeting,
so
it's
just
for
the
future.
Please
remember
to
meet
your
mike
unless
you
speak.
Thank
you.