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A
D,
we
take
the
roll
call.
It's
actually
I'm
gonna
do
that
tonight
and
do
some
roll
call.
B
Votes
here
so
dee
is
actually
out
sick
today.
So
so
I
will
say
john:
will
you
take
them
I'll,
be.
B
Glad
to
mr
chairman,
marlene
newman
she's
online.
Okay,
that's
online
okay,
doug
bruce.
A
A
You
with
us
no,
no,
that's
christian
holly,
okay,
ernesto
castaneda
yeah
and
chris
sterbaum.
A
Let's
I
need
approval
for
the
minutes
from
february
9th.
You
need
a.
A
B
Doug
bruce
dane
okay
davis
lego,
yes,
tim
desawler
abstain,.
B
B
A
To
cos
commission
review
and
we'll
start
with
clear
who
are
the
five
guests?
I'm
sorry
we're.
B
Four
yeses
you
renard
john
saunders
and
daniel
schlegel,
so
four
out
of
seven
seven.
E
It's
actually
not
black.
It's
welsh
old
world
slate
roof,
a
composite
material
made
of.
E
District
and
the
petitioner
provided
historical
photograph.
Now
the
petitioner
can
clarify
the.
E
Material
but
apparently
the
originals
tiles
were
not
slate,
but
rather
asbestos.
So
this.
E
Is
not
rep
these
composite
slate
roofs
would
not
be
replacing
slate
in
any
way
whatsoever,
but.
E
Term
to
describe
the
roof,
it
is
definitely
a
composite
material
and
that's
the
term.
E
We
will
be
using,
and
here
is
a
bit
more
information-
the
elm
heights,
historic
district.
E
E
So
this
is
a
photo
on
the
screen
of
the
building,
as
it
looks
like,
and
the
welsh
slate.
E
G
Making
that
it
was
a
it's
a
very
slight
thing,
but
yeah
it's
just
that
word
fake,
hit
me
wrong.
G
Next
day
and
the
roof
that
I
used
as
a
calm,
I
really
looked
at
it
and
I
really
compared
it.
G
I
needed
a
structural
engineer
report
and
we
did
work
with
kevin
potter
in
the
beginning.
I
dug.
G
G
I
have
a
tendency
to
just
like
film,
my
gut,
and
I
just
kind
of
threw
that
out
there.
G
Limestone
and
the
plaster
we
have
a
lot
of
heavy
original
materials
in
the
house.
So
if
we
can.
A
I
And
really
even
we
can
understand
too,
even
though
for
a
slater
as
best
as
ruth
and.
I
Up
sure,
if
you
guys
don't
want
to
prove
this
one
exactly
what
we
can
do
is
do
an
approval.
I
I
I
E
Jenny
southern
was
representing
your
case
because
we
thought
we
had
lawsuit.
Oh.
I
I
I
I
I
Slate
similar
to
how
we've
done
approval
of
cement,
siding
of
the
correct
weight
width
board.
I
You
know
not
the
fake
stuff.
With
the
grain
remember
we
we
had
trouble
with
that
and
marked.
I
I
Across
directly
across
the
street
and
stuff
that
one
has
a
slight
roof
and
it's
actually.
I
I
I
It's
less
okay!
So
this
one
when
you
said
it,
it
comes
out
square
where.
I
G
G
Of
you,
I
know,
there's
others
on
there
that
I
know
too,
if
you
have
a
better
idea
or
something.
G
Else
that
we
should
consider
I'm
totally
okay
open
to
that
okay.
So,
let's
start
with
some
questions.
A
Okay
and
we'll
go
on
sam
questions.
Yeah
I've
got
a
couple
when
you
say
the
material
is
a.
C
Composite
material,
all
that
means
is
it's
a
bunch
of
stuff
stuck
together.
So
what
is
the
stuff.
C
C
The
packet
I
apologize,
if
oh
hi
I
asked
steph,
can
respond.
I
actually
went
to
the
webpage.
E
C
C
G
C
C
Shingles
at
the
ridges
in
the
valleys.
What
what
happens
there.
G
Those
are
all
some
words
that
I
kind
of
caught
me
off
guard.
I.
C
Is
what
we're
seeing
what
they're
planning
on
yes
coloring
is.
I
It's
basically
a
dark
gray,
blackish
gray
blackish
he's
not
going
to
put
a
wild
pattern.
I
So
does
that
make
sense?
Did
I
just
miss
this
in
the
packet,
but
what
what
they're
proposing
to.
C
All
right,
so,
if
you
don't
know
recommendation,
we
are
all
for
it.
Well,
the
the
walls,
the
welsh.
E
The
president
of
what
they
wanted
you
know,
so
I
just
don't
know
why
we
can't
see
a
picture
of
the.
I
E
This
is
the
walsh.
The
thing
you
want
to
use-
and
this
is
the
both
of
these-
are
samples
of
that.
E
C
J
Just
trying
to
figure
out
if
part
of
the
petition
is
case
that
is
being
made
is
that
the
rule.
J
Is
or
the
building
is
not
able
to
withstand
the
weight
of
the
slate
material
while
asking.
J
For
evidence
is
out
of
order.
I
I
asked
that,
or
do
I
mean
since
it
wasn't
originally
a
slight.
I
I
I
But
her
husband
or
not
her
husband,
but
her
dad
freaked
out,
okay,
so
okay,
I'd
like
to.
G
It
will
be
laid
brick
style
in
like
a
rectangular.
It
won't
be
squares.
G
But
okay,
maybe
that's
just
what
will
show
that
it
isn't
10
by
10.
we're
going
to
make
them.
H
G
G
G
G
G
J
G
It
doesn't
come
with
the
weight
and
expense
of
slate
okay,
so
steph
sorry
I'll
take
them.
Yes,.
G
You
know
barrel
I'm
just
having
a
it's
a
terrible
week.
Whatever
that
orange,
you
know.
G
Barrel
stuff
is
terracotta
and
I
I
really
am
much
smarter
it
really.
It's
been
a
bad
week,
I'm.
J
J
G
G
I
think
I
mute
it
again.
Probably
nobody,
oh
you
do,
okay,
I
you
know
when
we
bought
our
house.
G
G
G
To
finish
the
attic
which
was
unfinished,
then
our
house
had
been
mostly.
This
is
important.
It
had.
G
Been
not
lived
in
consistently
for
close
to
15
years
when
we
bought
it.
We
didn't
know
that
that.
G
G
G
You
know
with
the
plaster
with
the
limestone
we
put,
we
put.
Oh
sorry,
I
thought
that
was
you
guys.
G
G
Of
the
the
structure
of
the
home
to
accommodate
finishing
this
space,
this
attic,
which
we
have.
F
Staff,
the
question
staff
does
not
have
that
information
on
hand,
as
rules
are
one
of
the
more.
E
E
That
cannot
be
used
anymore,
of
course,
but
I
do
not
know
perhaps
the
owner
or
might
have
a
better.
F
Is
that
correct?
That's
13
100,
what
kind
of
stuff
and
again
a
question
for
staff.
F
This
is
plastic
and
I
would
be
much
more
interested
in
seeing
a
product
that
would.
E
In
this
neighborhood
are,
and
the
the
some
of
the
commissioners
here
have
had
more
experience.
E
Actively
working
in
this
neighborhood,
but
the
the
stone
slate,
however,
that
was.
E
F
Could
asbestos
material
have
been
the
original
roofing
material
in
1928
yeah.
F
So
wanted
to
answer
that
because
it
was
a
question
for
staff
yeah,
so
asbestos
has
been
used.
E
K
K
Jenny,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
from
what
you
said
earlier,
that
I
have
this
right.
They're
going.
I
Yeah
the
actually
there
is
a
president
for
original
materials
being
replaced
in.
I
I
I
I
I
G
G
K
I
K
I
I
I
I
I
Thing,
which
is
what
a
slight
loop
is,
nobody
wants
to
get
rid
of,
that
it's
a
good
investment,
but.
I
G
Sort
of
unique
about
our
home.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
okay,
so
david
and
florence
wiley
built
our.
G
G
G
History,
aside
from
a
few
pieces
of
limestone,
like
thresholds,
two
thresholds
actually
there's
no.
G
Limestone
in
our
home,
she
actually
had
this
weird
mexican
tile
around
the
fireplace
that
took.
G
G
G
G
F
A
Comments
I'll
try
and
be
brief.
So
the
sticking
point
for
me,
I'm
looking
at
page.
C
Want
to
if
they
want
to
put
the
the
work
in
to
make
it
support
slate
great,
but
they.
C
Don't
have
to
the
the
sticking
point
for
me
is
on
page
24
guidelines
for
roof.
It's
as
if
a.
C
All
four
things-
that's
and-
and
my
view
on
this-
is
that
this
material,
as
the
guidelines.
C
Are
written,
is
it's
it's
the
new
vinyl
siding
for
for
roofs?
I
am
not
excited
about
it.
C
Petitioner
was
asking:
what
can
they
do?
You
can
do
an
asphalt
shingle.
You
can
get
the
neighborhood.
C
That
there
was
a
a
metal
roof
for
the
on
on
previously
before
the
asbestos.
But.
C
I
I
think
that
or
the
that's
the
only
options
that
I
can.
I
cannot
support.
J
And
for
the
record,
I
need
to
make
reference
to
the
regulations
which
govern
this
commission.
J
J
J
Secondly,
I
lend
support
to
sound
the
solar's
position
about
not
being
satisfied.
J
F
Swayed
my
my
vote
on
this
issue,
so
I
love
procedure
and
I
was
obviously
just
ahead
of
myself.
F
F
I
know
how
I'm
going
to
vote
based
on
comments
by
other
commissioners.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Austin.
A
Marlene
okay!
So
after
a
little
bit
of
quick,
quick
research,
it
seems
that
the
technology.
D
D
Technique
which
is
very
similar
to
the
material
that
the
petitioner
is
suggesting,
and
so
in.
D
Been
designed
for
something
other
than
slate,
if
if,
if
the
original,
the
original
material.
D
D
D
D
D
D
Would
be
able
to
pay
for
pardon,
I
I
okay,
so
the
and
the
end.
The
the
other
thing
is
that.
D
I
think
they're
doing
something
good
they're
they're,
creating
a
look
that
is
more
like.
D
Material,
the
original
material.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
there's
some
bit
of.
D
C
Shortly,
the
only
reason
I
I
say
I
I
don't
say
that
we're
trying
to
make
them
put
slade
on
the.
C
C
What
I'm
saying
is
the
guidelines?
Don't
say
that
you
can
substitute
materials
in.
C
D
A
A
L
Okay,
I
can
hear
you
all
I
I
agree
with
with
what
sam
said,
but
marlene
really
took
the
words.
L
Out
of
my
mouth
because
sleep
I
mean
I've
worked
with
some
projects
as
an
architect
where.
L
I
just
knew
it
was
ungodly
heavy.
I
have
some
samples
of
a
material
like
this
and.
L
Marlene
that
you
know,
while
asphalt
shingles,
might
work.
I
think
this
is
an
upgrade
and
something.
L
That
definitely
mimics
the
the
the
pattern
and
the
the
style
of
the
asbestos
shingle
better.
L
L
L
J
J
J
J
D
D
D
G
G
G
A
I
To
answer
sam's
question
I
just
it's
just
real
quick
and
it
might
influence.
I
Fourth,
paragraph
you'll
find
it
says
if
existing
roofing
material
must
be
replaced.
I
I
J
J
A
A
A
A
H
Right,
I
I
get
that,
but
I
am
I
I'm
bernard.
Our
home
is
a
tutor
revival.
J
J
A
F
That
that's
appropriate
okay
for
a
motion
like
this.
It
could
be
a
comment
to
say:
hey,
you
know.
A
F
Let
me
make
sure
I
understand,
because
we
have
four
here:
are
the
people
who
are
online.
E
E
A
A
E
On
the
windows
with
so
there
are
original
doors
and
windows
that
are
currently
covered
in.
E
E
Front
door
is
also
in
an
indeterminate
state
of
repair,
so
basically
staff,
I'm
going
to.
E
E
And
here
are
the
new
windows
for
the
work,
order
or
information
about
the
when
the
proposed
windows.
E
E
Prioritizing
that
whatever
replacement
window
is
put
in
its
place,
maintains
the
fenestration.
E
Dimension
so
the
that
the
window
sizing
does
not
change
at
all
and
staff
is
not
sure,
and
the.
E
The
sizing
of
the
this
historic
shotgun
house
so
yeah,
so
that's
so
staff-
does
recommend
a.
E
Approval
but
approval
conditional
to
making
sure
that
the
fenestration
proportions
are.
E
E
M
If
it
does
get
graded
and
putting
the
new
windows
in,
I
want
the
trim.
C
The
conservation
district
guidelines
in
as
president
until
the
historic
ones
are
approved.
E
F
About
the
door
is
that
historically
appropriate
for
this
home
staff,
so
the
door
is
not
identical.
E
It
has
a
similar
style,
it's
a
vinyl
door
with
a,
but
it's
got
the
things
that
are
characteristic.
E
M
The
house
directly
across
the
street,
it's
identically
the
same
joke.
It's
a
you,
see
him.
M
M
M
M
M
M
F
D
D
Love
nation
style
house,
so
I
think
that
there's
some
oh
she's
still
here
thousand's
here
yeah.
D
D
L
E
No
kirsten
is
a
she's
she's,
an
advisor
okay.
Yes,
okay,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
building.
C
I
totally
am
going
to
improve
or
vote
to
approve
this
one.
I
don't
think
there's.
C
J
D
L
I
gotta,
I
can't
see
that
on
this
side,
I
I
agree
with
marlene.
I
think
I
applaud
the
efforts
on
this
case.
I
think
others.
L
L
G
G
A
E
Of
the
main
house
and
garage
the
front,
so
staff
basically
put
what.
E
E
Was
built
much
earlier,
so
in
1950,
jack
and
leanne
dorsey
they
jack
was
a
a
painter.
E
Working
plus
people
lived
in
this
space
and
the
building
has
been
altered
over
time
and.
E
Here
is
some
additional
information.
Oh
give
me
one.
Second,
the
owner
just
asked
to
be
unmuted
here.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
Plans
besides
that
at
the
moment
and
that's
about
all,
I
have
to
say
really
thank
you,
sir.
F
Ofsky,
but
does
staff
also
conclude
that
this
structure
is
inhabitable
and
structurally.
F
F
E
Development:
okay,
but,
and
if
I
have
them
and
can
access
them,
I
will
bring
them
okay.
Thank
you.
F
It's
a
comment
I'll
leave
it.
Thank
you,
okay,
daniel
any
questions.
K
No
because
I
was
gonna
ask
him
that
the
owner
petitioner
had
mentioned.
A
A
A
Comments
comments.
A
Was
that
yeah
yeah?
I
was
yeah,
I
mean
I'm
just
down
the
street
from
this,
and
I've
seen
this
house.
L
Fallen
disrepair
and
wondered
about
it
and
I
feed
I've
seen
over
time.
The
amount
of
it
has.
L
I
know
that's
that's
been
an
issue
brought
up
before,
but
but
typically
if
a
house
is.
L
L
A
We
no
comments
any
comments.
I
get
everybody
sam
free
comments,
one
if
there's
anything
existing
in.
C
Always
greatly
appreciated
to
you
know,
I
am
sad
to
see
this
one
go
and
I
would
encourage.
C
N
N
Fundraiser
for
local
charities
and
eventually
we
might,
if
we
do
build
something
we
would.
N
F
What
determines
whether
or
not
it's
historic,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because
I
bet.
F
F
Right
all
right,
so
recognition
for
her
all
right
today
regarding
the
property
located
at
10.
A
17
south
walnut,
the
historic
preservation
commission
includes
that
he
got
noticed
and.
A
A
The
property
for
historic,
designation
to
the
common
council-
okay,
okay,
so
marlie
newman.
A
The
agenda,
yes,
we
don't
have
one
last
item
on
the
agenda
and
it
is
the
kiln
presentation.
E
We
have
the
architect
here
who
has
continued
to
work
with,
especially
the
east
side,
which
was.
E
Somewhat
was
approved,
and
yet
it
is
still
being
finessed
a
bit
more.
So.
H
O
O
You
know
revisiting
now
as
a
phase
one
development.
I
know
you
looked
at
this
recently.
O
Plan
for
making
sure
that
that
this
building's
a
success,
so
that's
really
why
we're
here
today.
O
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Do
you
want,
do
you
want
to
take
control
and
give
the
presentation.
O
O
Was
that
there
was
not
to
be
anything
that
projected
above
the
existing
roofs
and
primarily.
O
Hbc
was
looking
at
the
northwest
perspective
and
we
weren't
really.
I
could
be
wrong,
but.
O
C
All
sides
before,
but
so
I'm
really
glad
you're
revisiting
it,
but
we
did
look
at
the
the.
O
Need
another
coa
as
a
phase
one
project,
or
are
we
just
giving
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
with.
O
C
Is
just
what
do
you
think
this
is
a
precursor
to
see
if,
instead
of
sitting
in
another
meeting,.
F
And
they
made
a
decision
all
right
folks.
Can
you
hear
me
yes
great,
so
let
me
make
sure
I.
P
Understand
this
one
of
the
board
members
would
like
to
leave
the
meeting.
No,
who
is.
P
O
O
O
And
I
think
maybe
a
good
thing
to
do
right
now
is
just
you
know.
Maybe
we
can
just.
O
Talk
about
the
design,
I
think
you
know
I
just
want
to
the
first
time
we
went
through
this.
O
O
It's
he's
the
east
elevation.
I
would
not
call
back
of
house.
O
There'll
be
respect.
Sam,
I
think,
is,
is
almost
more
front
of
house
as
you're
coming
off
of.
O
O
People
that
are
that
are
coming
from
the
north
or
the
south.
So
when-
and
this
is
the
main
entrance.
O
Building,
I
think,
really
has
both
the
front
face,
which
is
the
facade
that
we're
really
trying.
O
From
the
historic
nature,
but
also
speaks
to
the
notion
of
entrance,
the
roof
is
going
to
be.
O
Brick
pattern
around
that
you're,
seeing
on
on
the
north
east
and
south
elevations
as
well.
O
O
Seeing
here
is
that
you
know
in
the
two
or
the
three
version
we
did
have
this
elevated
entrance.
O
O
Down,
I
don't
know
three
or
four
feet
from
what
it
was
and
the
original
the
original
design.
O
O
Changed
on
the
project,
though,
I
would
like
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
the
windows
and
the
powerhouse.
O
Integrated
muttons
and
that's
the
way
it's
designed
now.
The
other
option
is
that
we've
got.
C
Yeah,
yes,
we'll
go
through
some
of
the
comments
now
lucas,
sam.
A
Go
ahead
sam,
I
kind
of
wanted
to
wait.
I
can
be
very
opinionated,
but
I
kind
of
like
to
hear
what.
C
J
I
think
it's
better
if,
whatever
issues
I
just
deal
with
well,
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing
it's
all
yours.
E
So
while
you're
looking
did
did
one
of
the
board
members
leave
yes.
P
P
P
P
J
Okay,
would
you
would
you
put
the
the
perspective
sheet
back
up
or
yeah.
E
E
O
On
20
to
22
real
fast,
if
you
go
to
the
go
to
the
first
slide
again,
please
that's.
O
Only
half
the
powerhouse
that's
in
the
alley.
Right
now
it's
been
cut
off
halfway
through
so.
O
I
don't
think
there's
any
way
we
could
actually
make
the
building.
Look
like
that
good,
okay,.
O
O
So
you
actually
enter
through
the
door
and
then
you
would
take
an
immediate
left
and.
O
Occupancy
on
the
roof
at
this
point,
it
would
just
be
for
utility
access,
or
you
know,
maybe.
A
C
Putting
the
wrong
number,
it's
fine,
it's
just
a
check-in
to
say
this
is
the
direction
we're.
C
And-
and
I
I
I
totally
agree
with
you-
that
this
is
you
know,
this
is
a
second.
This
is
a
the
second.
C
C
One
of
the
things
I
think
that
really
helps
do,
that
is
the
verticality
of
the
kiln
thing.
The.
C
Thing
that
bothers
me
about
the
kiln
that
little
pop-up
is
how
masonry
is
being
used
as
a.
C
I
got
a
point,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
like
right
under
where
the
kilns
a
is,
how
that's
being.
C
O
C
But
it's
enough,
so
I'm
glad
you
pulled
it
down
a
little
bit.
I
think
the
only
other
thing
that.
C
Jumps
out
at
me
is
that
walk-in
cooler,
it'll
be
screened,
it'll
be
screened
yeah.
I
want
to
see.
C
That
so
because,
right
now
it
looks
like
well
bad
words
came
to
mind,
which
I
won't
say,
but.
C
O
E
Who's
looking
at
that
okay,
so
this
is
just
a
little
bit
more
of
an
interactive
model,
so
we
can.
O
Get
a
50
on
my
screen
now:
yeah,
yes,
okay!
So
so
this
would
be
the
east
side.
We
we
already
have
a.
O
Metal,
a
you
know,
an
improved
steel,
handrail
guardrail
system,
which
would
basically
be
one
by.
O
Two
steel
verticals
and
then
a
welded
wire
mesh
that
would
go
in
between
and
I
would
imagine.
O
O
The
alley
as
well,
just
as
you
know
why
I
I
will
say
sam,
I
appreciate
your
comment.
It
was.
O
O
O
Pattern
around
to
this
lower
one
level,
I
think,
probably
at
first,
because
it's
in
line
with
the.
O
All
metal
panel,
the
other,
the
other
recess,
brick
thing
that
feels
weird
right
now
is
the.
C
One
that's
buttoned
up
to
those
small,
the
the
smaller
end
of
the
the
cooler,
oh
yeah,
that
that
it.
C
O
A
little
breathing
room
between
between
the
new
brick
and
the
old
brick
yeah,
so
I
mean
I'll.
Let.
C
C
O
C
Be
parking?
Okay,
I
think
the
other
thing
I
would
suggest
if
you're
you
know,
because
you.
C
C
In
some
like
rail,
that
are,
you
know
screen,
so
they
can
see,
and
you
have
at
least
you
have
visual.
C
O
Working
off
of
a
lidar
mesh,
that's
not
been
modified
for
final
contours,
so
it's
it's!
This.
C
Okay
question
those
two
things
that
look
like
entrances
behind:
that
I
think
sammy
called
that.
O
The
nature
of
the
historic
building
is
that
it's,
let
me
get
in
a
little
bit
closer
here.
O
Thick
and
then
it's,
I
think,
18
16
to
18
inches
thick
at
this
spot.
So
these
are.
O
Just
really
wide
elements
of
masonry,
I'm
guessing
it
was
done
for
insulation
for.
C
One
other
thought
I
had
about
their
your
brick
wall.
You
know
just
the
language
of
the
wall.
C
C
Wall
that
runs
east
west
and
then
the
one
that
runs
north
south
doesn't
have
a
parapet.
O
O
Roof
in
the
opposite
direction
and
then
go
to
a
scupper
and
maybe
parapet
the
whole
back
side.
C
More
residential
wood
frame
windows-
I
keep
it
industry
metal
framed,
makes
more
sense
to
me.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
mean
right
now
I
if,
if
we
go
that
route
and
it's
actually,
it
seems
to
be
a
more.
O
Cost
effective
pollution
as
well
sorry
about
the
zooming
is
to
use
you
know
the
storefront
now.
O
Be
a
two
by
four
and
a
half
storefront
system
with
some
operable
awnings
at
this
level.
So
we.
O
O
To
think
through
that
kind
of
yeah,
that's
why
we
went
with
double
hung
on
this
is
so
that.
O
But
we'll
take
a
closer
look
at
that
look
good,
but
so
so
I
think
the
main
thing
is.
C
And
that's
that's
not
an
historic
thing.
It's
just
like
if
you
want
it
to
read
as
an
entrance.
C
And
a
main,
you
know
a
main
entrance.
I
want
to
see
more
access.
O
So
I
understand
what
you're
saying
losing
a
parking
spot,
I
think,
would
be.
O
All
right
so,
but
it's
good
comment
I
and
I
don't
disagree
with
you-
that
it
could
be
opened
up.
A
F
Out
of
whack,
I
think
that
you're,
probably
on
the
right
track.
I
appreciate
that
hey,
listen.
H
I
think
you
found
yourself
to
be
a
trusted
designer
architect,
based
on
the
questions
that.
F
O
O
A
Now
you
get
to
find
project
looking
forward
to
bring
it
to
us
sam
anything
else.
C
The
mantra
for
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
is
compatible,
but
differentiated
and.
C
That's
one
of
the
reasons
I
wanted
to
pull
out
that
masonry
wall,
because
I
think
it's
not.
C
O
We
I
have
that
discussion
alert.
Originally,
it
was
metal,
siding
and.
O
But
yeah,
I
think
I
think
I'm
going
to
pull
it
and
see
how
it
works
great
kirsten.
Do
you.
O
A
Let's
move
on,
I
don't
see
any
old
business.
We
have
commissioner
comments,
but
that's
within.
A
Our
group
do
we
have
any
comments.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
lucas
for,
for
coming
and.
C
E
Emailed
no,
I
did
send
the
two
that
have
been
long-standing.
I
emailed
those
to
mike
rucker.
E
Legal
department
dealing
with
it,
but
I
need
to
meet
with
him
soon
about
that
and
yeah
the.
E
Angie
rickett's
case
basically
brought
attention
to
another
case
that
somebody
who
put
their.
E
E
That
is
kind
of
on
the
record
from
beleaguered
mid-level
bureaucrat
of
the
city.
E
The
one
with
the
the
barrel
tiles
and
the
one
with
the
columns,
valentine
and
second
second.
E
A
couple
of
weeks
ago-
and
I
will
follow
up
with
that
and
parlors
donuts
head
with
some
illegal.
E
E
Kind
of
where
we're
at
was
on,
and
were
you
here
when
I
said
that
mentioned
that
the
second.
E
E
Today,
today
I
was
informed
by
iu
cinema
that
we
got
the
creative
collaborations
for
2023-2024.
E
For
a
two
movie
film
series
to
be
done
between
the
city
and
in
the
eskenazi
school
of
art,.
E
And
the
projected
movies
are
because
we
want
to
reach
as
many
people
as
possible
and.
E
C
A
E
Are
characters
as
well
so
so
and
on
the
other
flip
side,
I'm
already
trying
to
see
sketch
out
for.
E
Things
and
on
the
flip
side,
look
at
historic
theaters
and
maybe
do
a
theater
tour
exterior.
E
E
Kind
of
just
like
some
nice
news,
it's
we
put
part
of
the
funds,
so
my
desk
puts
part
of.
E
The
funds
and
the
and
now
you
put
some
the
space
and
everything
so
anyways.
Thank
you,
okay,
so.
F
Point
because
I
brought
it
up
several
times,
but
I
absolutely
gotta
address
this
hybrid
meeting.
F
And
this
is
like
the
fourth
at
least
time.
I've
been
called
in
the
middle.
F
Going
to
go
back
to
a
regular
meeting
schedule
at
this
point-
and
I
also
we
have
got
to
discuss.
F
Continuous
misses
by
members
of
this
commission
because
again
it
puts
more
burden
on
folks
like
us,.
F
F
F
We
continue
to
have
meetings
and
we're
not
discussing
this.
I
just
don't
understand
why.
A
E
Out
and
reaching
out
and
reaching
out
when
we
are
already
under
severely
understaffed.
Yes,.
J
So
literally
blocked
off
thursdays.
Oh
yeah,
me
too,
I
mean
unless
I'm
on
vacation
or
sick.
E
The
record
how
grateful
I
am
for
those
who
are
participating
and
sacrificing
so
much
time,
because.
E
F
To
see
if
I
could
be
here
so
I
appreciate
that
if
it
doesn't
get
solved
soon,
I'll
probably
have.
F
To
ask
a
council
member
to
to
make
some
noise
about
it,
though,
because
they
will
are
there.
A
E
Don't
know
how
they
all
operate,
just
because
yeah
there's
a
lot
going
on
yeah
foreign.
P
P
Meet
in
person
the
board
of
public
safety,
it's
a
small
board,
only
five
members,
but
they.
P
P
Zoom
in
from
I
think
it
was
prague,
you
know
we
we
made
that
exception.
So
I
understand
allison's.
P
Ought
to
it
certainly
eliminates
the
potential
for
mechanical
failures
technology
glitches.
I
think.
F
J
J
C
C
E
So
no
no,
but
the
our
purview
and
how
it's
structured
is
in
the
commissioner's.
E
C
Comment,
it
might
be
cheating
if
you
wanted.
No,
I
don't
have
any
comments.
Thank
you
kirsten
thank.