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A
Meeting
for
thursday
september,
8th
2022.
d,
will
you
do
the
roll
call,
marlene
newton.
B
A
H
F
F
F
F
And
are
requesting
defense
so
that
they
can
avoid
future
incidents
such
as
the
one.
F
F
F
F
I
F
E
Thank
you
very
much
list
your
questions,
sam.
J
A
I
I
I
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Let's
move
on
to
comments.
J
For
this
petition,
I
think
this
is
a
problem
when
you
have.
J
Both
the
renters,
but
also
hold
accountable,
the
property
owners.
I
know
that's
not
in
our.
A
B
Is
not
google,
I
I
thought
we
were
saying
we
would
be
willing
to
pre-approve
moving
the
fence.
B
J
G
Well,
I
this
this
property
has
been
a
problem
for
years.
This
is
only
the
tip
of.
B
Can
just
make
a,
I
don't
know,
who
is
the
department
who
is
in
charge
of
the
reinforcement.
M
N
N
N
A
warning
now
you
need
to
be
clear
about
where
the
trash
is
and
as
if
it's
trash
blowing
over
to.
N
N
K
Sentence
here,
it's
trash
that
is
actually
thrown
onto
our
property
or
loan
onto
our
property,
so.
K
N
N
N
Do
we
have
any
comments
from
the
public.
J
To
at
the
four
foot
height
to
the
maximum
legal
extent,
allowed.
G
C
C
E
Any
of
you
remember
morris
and
alice
brinkley,
but
my
father
was
on
the
county
council
and.
F
Caused
delays
that
combined
with
and
the
representatives
can
clarify
and
go
into
more.
F
F
F
F
F
F
P
The
series
of
approvals
that
are
required,
the
plan
commission
had
two
options
to
submit
it.
P
As
it
was
previously,
or
to
do
a
staff
approval
for
a
minor
revision
which
basically
takes.
P
P
Committed
to
doing
the
building,
as
it
sits
currently
without
doing
the
addition.
P
The
planned
commission
would
revised
it
to
be.
You
know
minor
revision,
so
the
question
is:
is.
P
And
the
goal
here
being
to
get
something
going
in
this
building
because
it's
been.
P
Vacant
for
so
long
so
anyway,
more
of
a
procedural
question
for
you,
because.
A
Are
you
planning
to
have
actually
add
the
two
stories
to
it?
Perhaps
it
just
depends
on
what
the.
P
You
know,
can
we
find
tenants?
You
know,
because,
obviously,
since
march
of
2020
there's
a
lot.
H
Has
been
demand
for
it,
but
our
thought
was,
you
know:
let's
get
our
arms
around
the
building.
P
A
Back
in
the
original
documentation,
for
that
building,
do
we
have
a
picture
of
it?
Gloria.
P
All
the
same,
many
of
the
same
owner
occupants
that
were
going
to
go
into
that
main
level.
P
P
P
Is
the
city
looking
for
in
the
trace
district
at
that
point
in
time
you
know,
let's
just.
P
J
J
P
Well,
yeah
and
I'm
not
sure
that
we
would
have
submitted
what
the
roof
structure
was.
J
Are
you
proposing
to
do
these
new
openings
on
the
north?
Still,
yes,
that
is
the
powerhouse,
and
it.
J
All
these
connectors
between
the
buildings,
so
I
I
just
I'm
like
I-
I
want
to
know
what
it.
J
Was
sorry
to
just
jump
in
here
and
sped
off,
but
I
I
found
it
very
rewarding
and
I
I
hope
you.
J
I
think
it's
a
gorgeous
thing
and
it
would
be
a
great
addition
to
the
showers
district.
J
J
Different
heights
that
you're
connecting
them
all
up
right,
well,
there's
just
one
other
box
that.
J
F
Because
the
plans
with
one
story
have
been
submitted
to
planning,
can
you
draw
them
up?
Can.
F
You
get
them,
the
question
would
be
if
we
were
to
if
the
commissioners
were
to
approve
this
with.
F
With
the
drawings
from
planning,
if
they
we
would
be
able
to
retroactively,
incorporate.
F
Those
drawings
or
whether
we
should
table
it
until
the
next
meeting
and
just
have
them
submit.
F
F
Eric,
if
you
want
to
chime
in
and
are
able
to
oh
wait,
let
me
make
it
closed.
Sorry.
F
P
You
know
before
the
world
stopped
and
you
know
we
just
wanted
to
go
through.
Obviously,
the.
P
Process
again
to
make
sure
that
we
could
gain
favor
before
we
invested
heavily
into
it.
Yeah.
A
All
right,
sorry,
I'm
glad
I
got
hung
up
in
another
meeting.
F
So
yeah,
let
me
text
eric
to
see
if.
Q
Well,
I'm
alex
crowley,
I'm
a
partner
of
economic,
sustainable
development.
Q
I
mean,
I
think,
content
has
probably
been
talked
about.
Sorry,
I'm
late
for
the
meeting,
but
the.
Q
B
What
I'll
just
jump
in
real,
quick
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
sam,
but
what
sam's
concerned
about.
F
F
Just
answered
the
question
most
eloquently,
this
was
the
sorry,
so
just
respond.
Q
The
plan
appears
to
be
to
do
this,
build
out
right
so
that
the
you
know
the
stubbing,
even
that.
Q
Q
Building
that's
sort
of
sitting
on
top
of
the
of
the
first
one
right,
so
you
know
I
don't
know.
Q
Q
P
Know
we
want
to
get
the
build,
the
historical
building
again
preserved
and
operational
and.
P
To
work,
you
know
how
much
demand
is
there
within
the
trades
district
for
commercial
space.
P
J
Commissioners,
who
are
online
can
see
it
too.
I
think
that
that
would
be
helpful
and
and
alex.
J
J
So
all
and-
and
I
do
believe
that
the
the
drawing
that
you
brought
today
is
sufficient.
Given
you.
Q
H
I
would
also
yeah
so
the
stubs
are
the
blocks
you
see
on
the
top.
Those
would
be
the
what
would.
O
J
J
Going
to
to
the
inside
of
the
building,
they'd
be
blocked,
and
probably
you
know
fur
it
and
dry.
S
Coa,
that's
in
our
packet
is
for
the
three-story
version.
I
did
notice
that
staff
did
not.
F
The
minutes
from
the
previous
meeting,
along
with
my
own
recommendations
in
front.
F
One
go
is
because
it
is
easier
to
continue
saying
approving
the
same
thing
than
to.
F
Know
it
was
just
as
staff.
It
was
just
just
one
strategy
to
reach
the
same
goal.
That
said,
the
the.
F
S
S
I
P
L
G
A
historic
tax
credit
credits
for
this
building.
We
have
not
in
it
in
the
past,
we
had
not.
G
Process
going
through
the
with
the
state
architect
and
talking
about
historic
tax
credits.
G
To
this
thing,
the
tax
credit
only
had
to
do
with
the
historic
part
of
the
building,
so.
P
To
follow
up
with
the
local
historical
tax,
credit
experts,
you
know:
well
I
mean
who's.
The.
G
Okay,
you
know
you
have
to
keep
really
good
records.
The
photographic
records
of
the
brick
work.
G
And
how
you
managed
to
what
you're,
repointing
and
the
repair
of
the
work
was
important.
G
I
don't
know
what
they
would
think
about
the
windows.
Is
you
know
whether
that
would.
G
G
G
Was
too
short
so
and
it's
something
to
look
at?
It
was
an
interesting
process.
A
M
A
J
Hope
to
see
this
happen
and
I
would
support
this,
but
I
feel
I
would
be
remiss
if
I,
if
we.
S
Believe
it
needs
to
be
properly
documented.
The
documents
properly
circulated
in
due.
J
I
I
I
I
L
B
B
Your
concerned
over
the
public
process
is
also
valid,
but
I'm
my
concern
about
that.
B
Is
mitigated
a
bit
by
the
fact
that
it's
less
than
what
was
proposed,
where
it's
like
going.
B
So
here's
my
potential
compromise
is
to
approve
coa
2271.
If
the
three
stories
aren't
built
within.
B
Two
years
we
asked
that
either
nothing
be
visible
above
the
cornice
line
and
whatever.
B
B
I
P
G
Round
to
the
questions
again,
I'm
sorry
marlene
chris
was
just
following
up.
A
G
You
know
associated
with
the
proposal.
I
think
two
weeks
is
not
a
big
thing
to
ask,
but
I
think.
G
What
the
intent
was
that
was
associated
with
this,
the
coa.
Are
you
guys
yeah.
G
G
Glass
block
tower,
thank
you
darling.
I
would
love
to
know
who
yeah
I
mean,
and
maybe
it's
you.
P
I'm
glad
I'm
not
quite
sure
if
I'm
listening
to
who
the
local
historical
tax
credit.
A
G
G
G
Or
does
it
need
to
be
rejected
and
then
resubmitted
as
with
the
new
number?
So
if.
F
Which
rec
massive
recommendations
have
been
made?
Think
of
the
was
it
the
ferris
house.
F
F
And
yes,
written
like
enough
images,
so
the
rendering
that
was
sent
is
good.
If
there's
an.
G
S
There
would
be
any
confusion
and
we've
done
okay,
so
that
the
present
report
would
be
amended.
F
That
is,
that
is
up
to
the
h,
the
the
commissioners
to
decide
if,
if
they
know.
G
Phase
one
no
one
and
two
one
and
two
just
just,
but
with
the
caveat
that
this.
F
Is
the
first
here
are
the
details
for
what
will
be
built
first
and
then.
F
C
G
A
East
2nd
street
and
the
petitioner
is
with
us
great.
Thank
you,
terry.
F
F
Requested
after
the
fact,
the
windows
have
been
replaced
changed
already.
This
should
not
become.
F
Over
one
I
also
do
have
and
sam
you
usually
ask
about
the
neighborhood
comments,
and
I
do
have.
F
Neighborhood
comments
for
the
fence
and
for
this,
so
I'm
sorry
to
all
of
the
commissioners
for.
F
That
oversight,
but
regarding
the
fans,
I
have
a
comment
from
jenny,
southern
and
from
sorry
martha.
F
F
F
F
F
Plead
ignorance
for
changes
martha
her
soni
commented,
I'm
fine
with
both
coas
and
in
this.
F
From
the
from
the
guidelines
on
windows,
the
windows
should
be
sorry.
I
usually
like.
F
Just
type
it
up,
but
in
this
case
coa
should
be
applied
for
if
there
is
removal
of
any
window.
F
F
Type
of
material
and
to
avoid
the
introduction
of
mass-produced,
metal
windows
and
doors.
F
F
Statement
is
made
lightly.
Here's
the
location
of
the
property
this
is
north
is
facing
right.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
R
R
Didn't
know-
and
I
was
replacing
the
windows
that
were
that
were
damaged
and.
R
R
Window,
on
the
right
hand,
side
it
was
already
vinyl
replacement
window,
and
so
it
I
I
just
didn't
it.
J
One
is,
I
guess,
for
gloria
because
he
went
out
and
shot.
This
is
the
back
of
the
house
actually.
J
J
J
R
Okay,
I
I
will,
I
will
add
one
other
comment.
There
is
one
window
that
has.
R
A
R
R
Yes,
okay,
you
know
because
it's
yeah,
so
those
are
all
the
questions
I
have.
A
Okay,
chris
questions,
no
elizabeth
matthew
for
the
petitioner.
How
how
did
you
find
out.
B
How
did
you
find
out
from
a
complaint
complaint.
B
He
is
I'm
here.
This
feels
to
me
like
more
of
an
enforcement
issue
than
an
approval
issue.
B
Is
there
enforcement
means
for
recourse
for
her
violating
the
the
code?
Basically.
N
Would
you
like
an
answer
to
that
question,
be
nice
to
have
it
before
we
get
to
a
vote
yeah.
U
Yeah,
I'm
sure
so
I'm
looking
at
the
enforcement
and
penalties
at
the
moment,
but
nobody
has
issued.
U
See
what
steps
would
need
to
be
taken
even
to
get
to
that
point?
So
if
you'll
give
me
just.
A
J
A
Question,
yes,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
Do
you
leave.
G
There
was
a
case
a
few
years
ago
on
wiley
street,
where
a
german
couple
bought
a.
G
G
A
A
So,
let's
move
on
you're
welcome,
let's
move
on
to
comments
at
this
point.
Sam.
J
J
Pay
the
fees
so
the
dis,
the
guidelines
are
also
very
clear
in
elm
heights
and
it
excludes.
J
A
All
right,
thank
you,
sam
bernard.
What's
on
set
okay,
daniel
in
agreement,
I
guess
this
is
more
of
a.
T
L
I
I
B
B
B
B
Inadvisable
or
infeasible
I'm
quoting
there,
so
I
can't
approve
this
a
because
there's
nothing
to.
B
B
B
B
A
M
M
M
M
G
You
know
chris
said
would
be
a
consequence
and
it
would
be
a
reasonable
consequence
that
would.
G
G
On
wiley
street
was
such
a
a
lightning
rod
and
that's
why
all
of
these
things
were.
G
So
I
don't
know
I.
I
really
think
that
we
should
consider
this
seriously
and.
G
G
I
I
I
I
I
S
I
I
find
it
hard
to
accept
that
the
owner
didn't
know,
because
it
was
on
the
mls
and.
S
F
J
F
A
few
weeks
or
up
to
a
month
or
two
between
that
time,
and
that
said,
someone
who
buys.
F
B
We
go
to
any
motions,
I
don't
think
we've
had
public
comment
and
I
do
believe
the
petitioner.
A
No
all
right
hearing
that
mrs
cole,
you
had
something
else
to
add.
Well,
I
just
I
guess
to.
R
A
Okay,
any
additional
comments.
Just
just
so
the
commission
knows
I've
had
a
chance
to
review.
U
U
Whether
there
should
be
a
remedy
required
to
fix
what
is
being
considered
to
be
a
violation.
U
U
Explaining
what's
going
to
happen,
it
would
be
my
recommendation
to
this
commission
that.
U
U
U
U
There
are
specific
discussions
about
what
those
remedies
can
be.
You
can
require
them
to.
U
U
U
The
fines
are
set
up
in
a
way
that
are
also
a
little
bit
unique
for
a
first
violation.
It
can.
U
An
additional
fine,
but
in
this
case
we're
only
dealing
with
that
first
violation:
curious.
U
So
go
ahead:
yeah.
Can
you
look
up
on
your
screen
gloria
put
up
there,
the
notice.
U
And-
and
I'm
I'm
glad
to
see
that
that
happened,
I
I
don't
know
what
I'm
looking
at
it
now.
F
F
F
Office
but
yes,
he
asked
that
I
sent
the
letter
under
my
name
and
that
the
next
step
would
be
to.
U
Have
wanted
to
see
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
this
is
happening
and
it
and
it
requested
of
the.
U
U
U
I
I
I
S
J
What's
the
number
oh,
it's
22-72
yeah,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
coa
22-72.
J
We
don't
know
what
she's
got
to
do:
research
about
the
kinds
of
windows,
the
manufacturers.
J
Do
we
is
that
I
think
this
is
that's
a
legal
question.
Yeah.
F
Sorry
so
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
the
ld
retake
the
role.
C
R
F
All
right,
thank
you
again,
all
right.
Let's
move
on
please
to
demolition
delay,
22-14.
A
Ryan
strasser,
this
is
dealing
with
the
cottage
grove
properties.
I
believe
we.
A
F
F
The
owners
early
owner
and
the
fact
that
they
were
worked
as
a
had
a
working-class
job.
F
That
said,
I
went
ahead
and
took
a
careful
look
at
the
I'm
sorry.
I
took
a
careful
look
at.
F
Sure
so
the
hypothesis
is
is
this:
is,
is
this
area
intact
or
not?
Because
if
you
look
at
the.
F
F
A
proposed
future
historic
district,
the
area
is
actually
does
still
contain
many,
if
not
all,.
F
F
F
F
F
You
can
see
what
what
the
study
area
was
in
2004
versus
what
the
shard
records
documents.
A
Okay,
thank
you
gloria.
All
right
do
we
have
anything
to
add
ryan.
F
Oh
that,
let
me
see
if
I
made
ryan
a
call,
give
me
one.
Second,
let
me.
V
Just
ryan
strausser,
I
guess
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
add,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
discussion.
V
Here
is
more
so
on
the
whole
district
as
much
as
this
property
in
particular,
I
guess
like
gloria.
V
In
this
stuff
across
the
alley,
wasn't
it's
kind
of
there's
just
a
strip
that
went
down
cottage.
V
This
block
would
even
really
apply
still,
but
I
can
answer
any
other
questions.
You
have
very
great.
A
Thank
you,
ryan.
There
are
same
questions.
This
is
a
procedural
question
for
legal
and
I
think
this.
J
Is
something
we
talked
about
earlier
is:
if
the
commission
believes
that
it
would
be
a
positive.
J
J
J
J
Or
even
a
conservation
district
at
its
inception,
how
what
part
does
the
if,
if
they're,
not.
J
The
instigators,
what
part
does
the
the
neighborhood
play
in
starting
a
district.
U
The
very
first
time
or
you're,
hidden
you're,
hitting
me
with
some
great
questions
to
give
me.
A
I
I
J
J
Have
in
that
process
yeah,
so
john
sorry
asked
if
I
knew
the
thing
is.
I
have
researched
some.
F
Commissioners
nominating
entire
districts
in
part,
because
there
is
a
component.
F
Say
something
that's
untrue.
Just
due
to
lack
of
knowledge,
I
have
to
research
it
more,
but
I.
F
F
For
itself,
in
order
to
follow
some,
you
know
it
have
its
own
policies
enacted.
So
I
would.
F
F
N
A
U
U
U
Commission
to
start
that
process
and
then
this
commission
would
start
that
process
following.
U
J
At
all
is
basically
what
I'm
hearing
so
we
can
do
it
as
it
were
by
fiat.
I
U
U
I
I
F
Two
of
the
more
recent
districts,
the
the
neighbors
had
their
internal
processes
and
their
internal.
F
Gain
good
will
and
be
able
to
coordinate
and
it's
been
diff.
The
dynamic
has
been
very.
F
F
F
It
is
for
any
politician
to
get
voted
anywhere,
and
that
said,
I
know
it
seems
like
it's
rambling.
F
F
Public
meetings
within
the
community,
but
that's
more
a
way
of
I
wouldn't
say
appeasement
but
a.
F
F
F
That
is
correct.
I'm
seeing
the
language
now
so
in
that
conservation
phase.
U
A
commission
so
it.
It
then
said
that
these
objections
must
be
deep,
but
not
earlier
than.
A
A
A
J
Force
an
historic
district
down
a
neighborhood's
throat,
it's
where
they
live,
and
it's
going
to.
J
J
J
J
A
positive,
if
it's
you
know
but
and
if
there's
interest
then
I
think
we
we
have.
J
Development
will
take
the
neighborhood
if
it
is
not
turned
into
a
district.
A
Comment
I'm
of
two
minds.
Firstly,
I
agree
with
sam.
S
S
A
decision
that
I
have
to
make
thank
you,
mayor
daniel.
I
keep
thinking
about
the.
Q
T
T
T
T
T
I
I
I
I
G
Chris
said
the
landlords
usually
own
multiple
buildings,
and
they
only
get
one
vote.
If
you
are.
G
To
call
this
to
a
vote
so
they're,
that's
one
thing,
but
the
other
thing
that's
kind
of.
G
N
N
You
know,
is
the
house
itself
designation
worthy
or
is
it
not
and
that's
you
know
something
we.
N
G
Gloria
didn't
seem
to
find
a
whole
lot
about
this
house.
That
was.
G
If,
if
you
had
more
time,
would
you
be
able
to
maybe
do
a
little
more
research?
What.
F
Yeah
I
was
able
to
find
the
name
of
a
previous
owner,
a
person
who
was
in
a
working
class.
F
B
G
A
A
Gentlemen
and
everybody
women
and
all
various
at
summaries,
you
guys
know
I
love
you.
I
love
you.
B
B
Meeting
something
like
that,
so
that's
that's!
What
I'm
saying
is
that
we
just
spent
a.
B
G
Number
two
gloria
has
not
you
know
she
hasn't
had
an
appropriate
amount
of
time.
I
think
to.
G
G
Like
it
in
town
with
that
palm
in
the
middle,
I
think
that
I
I
didn't
really
appreciate
your.
G
G
A
Thank
you,
marlene
matthew.
I
apologize
for
that
that
last
overreaction
just
to
clarify
marlene.
U
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
Did
you
bring
me,
do
we
have
the
delay,
hang
on
a
minute.
G
F
F
F
F
Was
the
logic
for
that
is
how
an
additional
30
days
was
approved
and
that
had
to
be
through.
F
John
zodi,
the
director
of
hand,
he
was
the
person
who
could
approve
it.
According
to
title
20.
F
F
S
F
And
I
know
there's
some
motion
right
now
shortest
answer
for
this
house.
No
okay,.
C
T
Wait
say
that
again,
I
guess
means
tear
it
down,
no
means,
don't
tear
it
down.
Well,.
T
H
A
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Become
a
safety
hazard,
the
police,
bloomington
police
department
is
has
been
doing
extra
patrols.
F
F
F
Staff
recommends
releasing
the
dd22-15
okay,
any
additional
comments.
Mr
obama,
no.
W
A
I
W
F
F
F
Delay
that
it
is
in
that
process-
and
it
has
my
phone
number
so
people
who
call
me
directly.
F
So
that
said,
the
problems
with
were
before
that
process
ever
happened
there.
Yes,
I
didn't
submit.
A
Questions
comments:
marlene,
oh
marlene,
do
you
have
any
questions.
A
A
Move
on,
I
move
to
release
the
demolition
delay
on
22-15
and
I
accepted
it.
Okay
d:
do
the
roll.
A
A
A
A
F
So
we
need
continuing
education
and
there's
some
of
you
who
are
veterans
who
have
been
at
this.
F
All
of
us
need
continuing
education
staff
included.
It's
part
of
our
certified
local
government.
F
So
there
are
a
few
things
going
on.
I've
been
in
conversation
with
two
of
you
about
going
up
to.
F
That
said,
we
john
saunders
and
I
met
yesterday.
He
has
chair
of
the
hbc
to.
F
I
need
to
talk
to
people
to
figure
out
who
to
bring.
I
cannot
give
you
that
workshop,
because.
F
I
myself
am
a
part
of
the
continuing
education
crew,
but
to
bring
an
expert
from
outside
the.
F
F
F
About
what
sort
of
topics
you're
interested
in
how
it's
been
done
before?
What
you
would
like.
F
To
see
different,
if
how
many
of
you
would
be
able
to
meet
this,
is
this
type
of
continuing.
F
Education
last
year,
liz
and
I
went
to
the
camp
conference
and
I
learned
so
much.
It
was.
F
F
I
am
kind
of
up
to
here.
Yes,
I
am
disclosing
this
to
all
of
bloomington
right
now,.
F
A
A
I
A
Bringing
the
two
two
differences
up
to
us
and
do
we
have
any
public
comments.