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A
Everyone
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
legislative
update,
the
first
legislative
update
for
2023.,
and
this
is
a
really
important
session,
because
this
year
is
a
budget
year.
I
am
going
to
ask
everyone
to
mute.
Your
audio,
if
you
haven't
already
done
so
and
I
will
go
through
a
little
bit
of
the
introductions
and
the
procedures.
A
I
am
Sunny.
Lear
Camp,
as
I
said,
I
am
a
co-vice
president
of
the
Brown
County
League
and
I
have
a
background
a
little
bit
of
a
political
background
as
having
been
an
elected
prosecutor
in
Hamilton
County
for
several
years
before
I
moved
to
Brown
County
about
10
and
a
half
years
ago.
A
When
it
comes
time
to
answer
to
ask
your
questions,
you
will
be
asked
or
prompted
to
unmute
I
want
to
explain
that
we
have
invited
all
of
the
legislative
and
I
would
ask
Sherry
for
you
to
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
A
We
have
asked
the
representatives
for
Brown,
County
and
Monroe
County.
These
include
Senate
districts,
41
and
44,
and
state
representative
districts,
46,
60,
61
and
62.,
and
the
legislatures
who
were
invited
included,
Senator
cook,
Senator,
Shelley,
Roeder,
Representative,
Bob,
Heaton,
representative
Peggy,
Mayfield,
representative
Matt,
Pierce
and
representative
Dave
Hall.
The
Senator
with
us
today
is
Senator,
Shelley
wrote,
Yoder
excuse
me,
and
the
representative
with
us
today
is
Matt
Pierce
and
we
thank
you
so
much
for
making
the
time
to
do
this
with
us
today.
A
Now,
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
we'll
kind
of
of
review,
how
we're
going
to
proceed
from
here.
First
of
all,
we
want
everyone
to
understand.
This
is
an
informative
session,
not
a
debate.
It
is
time
for
you
to
ask
questions
that
about
legislation
that
you
may
be
interested
in,
that
you
please
be
very
civil
and
respectful
in
your
conversations
and
your
questions.
A
Each
legislator,
at
the
beginning,
beginning
I'm
having
a
little
tongue
twisting
today,
I
apologize
each
letter
just
later,
we'll
have
10
minutes
for
opening
remarks.
Then
after
legislator
remarks,
you
may
ask
a
question
one
at
a
time
to
ask
a
question:
just
go
into
the
chat
and
send
a
private
chat
to
the
question.
Moderator
and
all
you
need
to
say,
is
I
have
a
question
we,
you
will
be
called
upon
in
the
order
that
your
request
to
ask
a
question
has
been
received.
A
You
will
have
one
minute
to
ask
your
question
and
then
the
a
senator
and
representative
will
each
have
two
minutes
to
respond
to
your
question.
If
you
have
a
second
question,
go
back
in
the
queue
say,
you
have
another
question
and
if
we
have
time,
then
we
will
come
back
and
ask
you
again
to
ask
your
question.
A
All
both
of
the
legislators
will
be
given
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
all
of
the
questions.
Please
make
sure
and
note
that
this
session
is
being
recorded
by
the
Community
Access
Television
services
and
by
participating
in
this
process,
you
are
agreeing
to
be
recorded.
A
The
order
of
who
answers
questions
will
be
rotated
by
me.
The
moderator
I
think
that
even
covers
the
next
screen,
if
I'm
not
right,
Sherry,
so
I
think
with
all
of
that.
Having
been
said,
we
are
ready
now
to
start
with
the
legislators
and
their
opening
remarks.
A
We
will
start
with
Senator
Yoder.
Ladies
first
so
Senator
Yoder.
Are
you
prepared
to
make
your
own
opening
remarks.
B
Here,
I
I
am
on
my
way
to
Crown
Point
for
some
a
full
day
of
hockey
with
our
son
I'm,
not
driving,
but
I.
I.
I,
hope
that
you
can
hear
me
okay
and
that
the
reception
is
good.
A
couple
of
things
I
want
to
get
started
on
here.
We
are,
we
just
concluded
week
two
and
some
priorities
that
we've
been
working
on.
B
To
give
you
a
little
update,
I
serve
on
the
health
committee
on
education,
on
utilities,
Commerce
and
technology
and
the
environment
as
well
as
rules,
and
already
we
have
heard
some
pretty
one
disturbing
bill
that
we'll
get
to
and
some
interesting
proposals
that
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
initiatives
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
for
this
session
in
public
health.
B
Maybe
you
have
heard
about
the
governor's
public
health
initiative,
but
the
desire,
the
number
is
sb4
and
it's
to
create
a
public
health
Commission
in
the
state
of
Indiana
and
the
State
Department
of
Health.
Under
the
leadership
of
Dr
box
and
a
former
Senator
Luke,
Kinley
they've
been
making
the
rounds
to
explain
what
sb4
wants
to
get
accomplished
and
basically
it's
a
it's
a
chance
to
expand
what
we
haven't
been
investing
in
the
last
two
decades
and
that
is
in
the
public
health
of
Hoosiers.
B
They
conducted
a
pretty
extensive
study
over
this
past
year
and,
have
you
know
what
we
know
is:
we've
lacked
investment
in
public
public
health
and,
as
a
result,
the
life
expense
expectancy.
B
Sunny,
it's
contagious
life
expectancy
in
Indiana
is
decreasing
and
it
this
sp4
is
in
an
infusion
of
money
and
putting
local
Health
departments,
local
counties
or
local
Health
departments,
giving
them
an
opportunity
to
opt
into
the
to
receive
the
money
and
be
in
a
partnership
with
the
State
Department
of
Health,
with
this
Public
Health
commission
to
identify
together
what
initiatives
and
where
are
the.
Where
are
the
lapses
that
need
to
be
addressed
in
public
health
and
try
to
create
a
stronger
safety
net
when
it
comes
to
Public
Health
in
our
state
of
Indiana?
B
That's
a
priority
in
public
health,
along
with
Behavioral
Health
behavior,
that
that
is
sb1,
and
that
is
really
addressing
the
behavioral
health
infrastructure
in
Indiana
and
what
that's
going
to
look
like
and
how
we're
going
to
fund
it.
For
me,
I
I
love
to
hear
for
those
on
the
call.
Those
seem
to
be
good
measures
and
I
want
to
hear
back
from
from
those
of
you
who
are
on
this
call.
B
What
your
thoughts
are
on
that
in
public
education,
one
of
the
first
bills
we
heard
was
a
pretty
much
Universal
expansion
of
vouchers
under
the
guise
of
expanding
educational
savings
accounts
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
That
bill
is
SB
305,
and
we
heard
that
bill
this
week
in
education,
I've
heard
from
you.
This
is
not
the
direction
that
we
want
to
go
for
the
state
of
Indiana,
certainly
not
in
our
district
and
we're
really
working
very
hard
to
defeat
this
bill
and
hopefully
defeat
it
in
committee,
an
environment.
B
Last
year
we
we
passed
a
the
ability
for
the
Indiana
utilities,
Regulatory
Commission,
to
create
the
ability
for
smart,
small
modular
reactors
in
the
state
of
Indiana
and
already
that
passed
and
already
we're
seeing
legislation
to
increase
that
capacity.
Last
year
we
were
promised
we
would
keep
them
small
and
the
limit
for
electricity
creation
was
350
megawatts
we're
already
seeing
a
bill
to
increase
it
to
470
megawatts
in
small
modular
reactors,
and
that's
something
we're
going
to
be
discussing
in
utilities
and
in
the
environment.
B
The
environment
committee
has
a
new
chair:
I
am
ranking,
I'm
the
ranking
minority
chair
in
environment
and
I
have
a
climate
Solutions
task
force
bill
that
we've
been
working
on
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
A
group
of
students
created
this
over
the
last
two
years
and
finally,
I've
been
told
it's
going
to
get
a
hearing,
so
I
would
love
some
activism
there.
Some
reaching
out
to
your
legislators
to
let
them
know
that
we
want
to
hear
this
bill.
We
want
this
bill
to
go
up
for
a
vote.
B
It's
really
just
to
create
a
Solutions
task
force
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
Instead
of
having
a
climate
solution,
siled
bringing
together
a
body
to
look
out
a
way
forward
for
Indiana
some
of
my
initiatives,
things
I'm
working
on
that
I
filed
15
bills,
four
of
which
are
getting
good
traction
I,
have
a
an
expansion
of
contraceptive
access
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
It's
for
long
long-acting,
reproductive
long-acting,
reversible
contraceptive
care
that
is
getting
some
good
traction.
Hopefully
we'll
get
a
hearing.
I'd
love
some
help
advocating
for
that
bill.
B
There's
also,
as
I
mentioned,
the
climate
Solutions
task
force
doing
some
work
in
expanding
Medicare
for
those
with
disabilities.
I'm
getting
some
traction
there,
as
well
as
a
repeal
of
feminine
hygiene
products.
I,
hopefully
have
some
support
in
getting
that
repealed
this
year
and
would
love
your
help
and
and
your
response
and
thoughts
on
that
matter.
So
with
that
I,
don't
know
how
much
time
I've
had
studying
how
much
more
time
do.
I.
Have
you.
B
Excellent
because
I
do
want
to
touch
on
Senate
resolution
Senate
joint
resolution,
one
that
provides
that
a
person
who
poses
a
substantial
risk
to
the
public
is
not
entitled
to
be
to
release
by
bail
and
that
did
pass
out
a
committee,
and
that
is
a
joint,
a
Senate
joint
resolution.
We
are
hearing
that
and
it
will
get
a
vote
in
the
whole
body
on
Monday,
at
least
it's
on
the
calendar
and
would
like
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
those
on
this
call
about
this.
B
Removing
right
now
in
the
state
of
Indiana
people
are
have
a
right
to
bail
if
unless
they
have
been
convicted
of
murder
or
treason,
but
this
would
permit
judge
what
would
make
it.
So
anybody
who
has
a
substantial
threat,
what
that
means
is
yet
to
be
determined
if
you
are
considered
to
be
a
substantial
threat
to
the
public,
a
judge
could
not
have
bail,
would
not
be
an
option.
So
it's
really
at
the
discretion
of
a
judge,
and
my
fear
is
once
again
it's
going
to
be.
B
A
B
So
we
will
have
to
hear
it
the
way
that
the
Constitution
reads
and
Matt's
probably
can
speak
to
this.
It
will
have
to
pass
out
of
this
session,
but
it
would
have
to.
We
have
to
have
a
general
election
in
between
the
passing
of
this
twice
I
believe
before
it,
because
it
can
be
before
The
Constitution
can
be
amended.
B
C
C
So
a
proposed
constitutional
amendment
has
to
be
adopted
by
two
separately
elected
General
assemblies.
So
if
this
General
Assembly,
which
was
just
elected,
adopts
that
joint
resolution
that
says
we
should
amend
the
Constitution
to
get
rid
of
this
right
to
bail,
they
would
have
to
wait
until
after
the
next
general
election,
so
that
would
be
in
the
24
election
and
so
then
in
the
SEC,
January,
25
or
26th
session.
C
They
would
have
to
pass
it
a
second
time
and
then
once
that's
been
passed
the
second
time,
then
it
goes
to
the
voters
at
the
next
general
election
for
their.
You
know
for
them
to
vote
on
it
or
not
reference.
So
it's
a
pretty
long
process,
so
you're
gonna
have
to
get
through
this
General
Assembly,
the
next
general
assembly
and
then
it'll
show
up.
If
it
were
to
pass
two
times,
then
it'll
show
up
on
that
next
general
election.
A
Thank
you
Matt
for
that
clarification,
I
just
I
yeah,
it's
a
little
different
than
just
a
regular
bill.
That's.
B
You
know
it
has
it's
not
a
fast
process,
but
it
got
out
of
committee
and
it's
going
to
be
on
the
floor
in
the
Senate
on
Monday.
So
definitely
would
want
want
to
hear
from
you
on
how
you
feel
about
that.
A
C
Okay,
thank
you
good
morning.
Everyone
so
I'll
start
out
with
the
budget
which,
obviously,
in
the
long
session,
that's
the
probably
the
most
important
thing
we
get
done
and
we
have
all
the
traditional.
C
You
know
discussions
about
what
is
the
proper
level
funding
for
education
and-
and
you
know
Shelley
mentioned
that
you
know-
there's
just
a
Relentless
move
to
really
arrive
at
a
point
where
we
don't
even
fund
Public
Schools
anymore.
Money
just
goes
directly
to
the
parents,
and
then
they
just
choose
how
they
want
to
purchase
education.
That
really
is
where
they're
trying
to
get
to,
but
they
just
know
that
when
they
started
down
this
path.
C
10
years
ago,
if
they'd
stood
up
on
the
house
floor
and
said,
yeah
we're
going
to
vote
to
move
to
a
system
in
which
we
just
hand
money
directly
to
parents,
and
then
they
have
to
go
out
and
shop
for
their
education
and
we're
not
going
to
fund
our
Public
Schools
directly,
and
you
know
what,
if
they
don't
get
enough
parents
sign
up
to
spend
their
money
with
the
public
school,
then
oh
well,
I
guess
it'll
have
to
close.
Well,
that's
a
pretty
radical
notion
and
I.
C
Don't
think
most
people
would
go
along
with
that,
and
so
instead,
what
they've
done
is
they've
had
this
Relentless
incremental
approach
to
get
to
their
ultimate
goal
and
it's
interesting
because
what
they're
doing
comes
right
out
of
policy
making
textbooks.
If
you
read
about
it,
so
it
says
you
do
things
incrementally
to
get
to
the
big
policy
and
you
start
out
with
very
sympathetic
constituencies.
So
you
might
recall
that
the
vouchers
got
started
under
Mitch
Daniels
when
he
said
well.
C
If
we
have
students
who
have
tried
the
public
schools
they've
been
there
at
least
a
year,
it's
not
meeting
their
needs,
particularly
poor
people
in
inner
city,
schools,
minorities.
So
it's
a
civil
rights
issue.
Let's
give
them
the
same
option
as
wealthy
people
and
give
them
a
voucher,
and
so
you
know
that
sounds
pretty
convincing.
But
then,
of
course,
after
that
they
immediately
began
expanding
the
criteria.
C
So
now
we're
up
to
you
know
wealthy
people
getting
this
and
they've
created
all
kinds
of
other
avenues
to
divert
that
public
school
money
away
into
private
and
religious
schools,
and
then
you've
got
the
charter.
Schools
and
so
we're
just
seeing
we're
getting
kind
of
to
the
Tipping
Point
here,
because
you
know
they've
always
what
is
driving
this
is
this
ideological
belief
to
put
forth
by
The
Economist
Milton
Friedman
that
the
way
you
improve
schools
is
you
inject?
C
So
I'm
getting
a
little
bit
of
feedback
here
or
something
so
the
the
thought
was
that
you
know
if
the
parents
are
basically
choosing
they'll,
choose
the
best
schools,
the
bad
schools,
to
go
by
the
wayside
and
we'll
have
this
like
much
better
education
system.
So
that's
the
Milton
Friedman
approach.
Unfortunately,
we've
seen
that
it
doesn't
really
work
out
that
way.
C
Just
with
what
limited
experience
we
have
I
mean
these
non-public
schools
are
not
really
doing
that
much
better
if
at
all,
in
any
cases
worse
than
the
public
schools
and
we've
had
a
bunch
of
scandals
did
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
squandered
by
so-called
virtual
charter
schools.
That's
still,
you
know
out
there
trying
to
get
settled
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we
saw
happening
is
that
when
you
give
a
family
say,
here's
seven
thousand
dollars
go,
spend
it
on
some
education.
C
Some
of
the
schools
were
saying
like
hey.
If
you
sign
up
with
us,
we'll
rebate
some
of
your
money
back
to
you
or
we'll
provide
you
with
all
these
great.
You
know
give
you
a
television
set
or
something,
and
so
you
essentially
had
a
kickback
system
being
created
where
parents
are
being,
you
know,
could
be
induced
to
choose
a
school
based
on
how
much
money
might
flow
back
to
their.
C
You
know
their
personal
Family
budgets
so
anyway,
there's
there's
lots
to
be
concerned
about
there,
but
this
is
just
what's
going
on
it's
just
a
Relentless
march
to
get
to
this
Milton
Friedman
kind
of
everybody
gets
a
voucher
kind
of
world,
so
you
know
I'll
have
to
see
how
that
continues
to
play
out.
C
So
when
it
comes
to
the
budget,
I
think
the
two
big
issues
this
year
other
than
the
perennial
ones
that
we
always
talk
about,
is
this
proposal
from
the
governor
for
significant
investment
in
public
health
and
to
finally,
finally,
after
years
of
Democrats,
pointing
out
that,
like
we're
45th
in
the
in
the
country
and
our
funding
for
public
health
and
all
the
things
we're
not
getting
done
in
the
health
area,
you
know
we
finally
have
a
governor
who's,
put
a
commission
together,
Quantified
the
the
problems
and
issues
and
the
need-
and
he
stepped
forward
and
said.
C
We
need
to
fund
this
program.
Well,
the
leaders
of
the
general
assembly
in
his
own
party
seemed
pretty
lukewarm
to
his
proposal
and
kind
of
immediately
said.
Well,
maybe
we'll
give
him
half
so
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
issue
pans
out
about
how
much
money
this
initiative
actually
gets
to
bolster
all
the
County
local
Health
departments
and
allow
them
to
finally
do
the
kind
of
Public
Health
initiatives
that
are
required
to
really
attack
problems.
C
We
have
in
Indiana,
and
it's
it's
pretty
sad
when
you
look
at
it,
I
mean
we're
like
top
in
smoking,
diabetes,
obesity,
many
Baseline,
you
know,
Health
metrics
Indiana
is
not
very
good
and
I
think
that's
a
reflection
of
the
fact
that
we
just
have
not
put
the
resources
into
programs
to
get
help
attack
those
problems,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
the
governor
will
prevail
and
his
struggle
with
his
own
Republican
leaders
in
the
general
assembly
on
that.
C
The
second
thing
that
he
proposed,
which
I
quite
frankly
related
about,
is
finally
eliminating
textbook
fees
for
for
parents
in
public
schools,
which,
ironically
I
think
that
they
provide
tax
credits
to
parents
in
private
schools
to
cover
their
textbooks,
but
they
won't
pay
for
textbooks
in
public
schools,
and
so
the
governor
has
proposed
that
and
I
mean
the
Democrats
again
like
three
decades.
We've
been
talking
about
this
and
trying
to
get
something
done.
C
You
know,
I,
remember
my
predecessor,
markers
and
first
ran
for
office
in
1986
and
I
was
a
volunteer
when
in
law
school
on
his
campaign,
I
remember
sitting
around
saying
like
well.
What
are
the
big
issues
you
want
to
campaign
on
and
we're
like?
We,
these
students
shouldn't,
have
to
pay
for
these
textbooks.
It's
a
burden
family,
so
that
was
one
of
his
platform
items
in
1986.,
so
I'm
hoping
we
finally
get
it
done.
But
these
two
budget
issues
are
just
reflecting
kind
of
a
bigger
philosophical
battle.
C
That's
going
on
between
the
governor
and
the
and
the
fiscal
leaders
in
the
general
assembly
and
it's
within
his
own
party.
So
the
governor's
position
basically
is
look.
We've
got
surpluses,
we've
got
a
good
forecast
so
far
Revenue
growth-
we
have
these
unmet
needs
these
kind
of
holes
in
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
that
we
haven't
been
getting
done.
C
You
know
very
valuable
at
solving
society's
problems,
and
so
these
two
different
philosophical
approaches
to
government
and
to
budgeting
are
going
to
play
out
over
the
next
several
months
and
we're
going
to
figure
out
whether
the
governor's
Vision
or
the
general
assembly's
Republican
Vision
on
that
wins
out.
Okay
looks
like
my
time
is
ticking
down
here
pretty
quickly.
Let
me
just
say
that
if
you're
interested
in
the
Republican
agenda,
meaning
the
Bill's
most
likely
to
pass
or
get
serious
consideration,
all
you
have
to
do
is
look
at
house
bills.
C
1
is
always
the
budget
bill
in
in
budget
years,
but
what
the
Republicans
have
done
is
they've
created
a
tradition.
Now
They
will
announce
their
legislative
agenda
and
they
Reserve
their
first
10
Bill
numbers
for
their
agenda
bills.
Now,
interestingly
enough
this
year,
they
only
have
nine
agenda
items
and
there
is
no
one
thousand
ten
at
least
not
yet,
and
so
just
quickly.
What
we
kind
of
see
on
their
list
is.
C
They
want
to
reinvent
High
School
with
1002,
which
really
means
turning
it
more
into
a
trade
school,
a
feeder
system
for
employees
and
that's
kind
of
where
they're
going
there.
One
thousand
three
and
one
thousand
four
try
to
get
these
issue
of
excessive
Hospital
charges
and
and
non-compete
non-disclosure
contracts.
Other
things
that
are
happening
out
there
that
aren't
the
best
1005
deals
with
infrastructure
to
help
with
housing.
C
1006
is
an
important
bill.
We
can
talk
about
some
of
these
more
that
would
try
to
divert
people
away
from
jail.
So
that's
when
I
support
2007
has
to
deal
with
energy
energy
issues.
1008
is
the
ESG
bill
which
would
basically
prevent
Pension
funds
from
doing
anything
that
harmed
investments
in
fossil
fuels,
firearms
and
other
industries
that
legislature
likes
and
then
finally,
1009
would
allow
judges
to
begin
child
support
at
the
moment
of
conception.
A
And
Shelley,
thank
you
both
for
those
opening
remarks
and
now
we
are
going
to
open
the
floor
for
the
questions
as
I
indicated
previously.
If
you
are
called
upon
to
ask
your
question,
please
try
to
confine
your
question
to
one
minute
and
question
moderator:
do
we
have
someone
in
the
queue.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
Sonny.
We
have
three
people
in
the
queue
first
up
is
George
Ann
catalona,
then
we'll
be
Madison
for
the
second
question:
Madison
Miller,
so
George
Georgian
catalona,
please
unmute
and
ask
your
question.
Thank.
E
You
I
would
like
to
ask
about
the
sb4
on
which
is
the
Public
Health
commission,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
this
made
it
into
that
bill
and
I'm
hoping
you
can
tell
me
and
the
Department
of
Health
presentation
budget
presentation
when
they
asked
for
their
funding.
They
specified
that
local
County
Health
departments
have
to
opt
in
and
agree
to.
20
percent
cost
sharing
and
I
feel
some
concern
about
that
that
perhaps
not
all
County
Health
departments,
because
they'd
be
daunted
by
that
20
percent
cost
sharing
and
that
they
have
to
provide
certain
metrics.
A
Okay
and
we
will
ask
Matt
Pierce
to
respond
first.
C
Yeah
Shelly
might
know
that
what's
actually
an
sb4
but
I'm
pretty
sure,
that's
in
there,
because
when
we
went
to
the
presentation
from
Senator,
Kenley
and
Dr
Box
about
on
their
commission
what
they
came
up
with,
they
talked
about.
Yes,
they
first
of
all,
they
said
they
wanted
to
be
an
opt-in,
because
they
feel
that,
if
the,
if
they're
just
ordered
by
the
legislature,
to
do
this
they'll
kind
of
be
pushed
back
and
resistance,
and
they
really
won't
have
buy-in
to
getting
things
done.
C
So
they
wanted
to
not
be
seen
as
a
coercive
thing
and
then.
Secondly,
they
do
want
them
to
have
quote
some
skin
in
the
game,
so
they
have
to
fund
20
of
the
budget
to
get
the
80
percent
money
from
the
state
and
I
did
ask
about
that.
Because
I
had
the
exact
same
concern,
I
said:
hey
these
guys
are
strapped.
C
Are
they
going
to
come
up
with
this
extra
money
and
and
Senator
Kenley
says
that
they
believe
the
20
percent
matches
up
pretty
well
with
what
is
already
being
spent
in
these
counties
in
their
current
budgets?
So
he
doesn't
think
it's
going
to
be
an
additional
burden
on
them
to
come
up
with
the
20.
But
you
know
we'll
just
have
to
see.
B
Matt,
has
it
correct
it's
it's
in
there
and
the
idea
is
just
as
he
explained
to
have
you
know,
to
have
skin
in
the
game,
from
these
County
and
local
Health
departments
and
and
to
be
able
to
have
it
led
by
their
local
officials
for
them
to
have
a
partnership
to
identify
county
by
county
local
Health
Department
by
local
Health
Department.
What
really
needs
to
be
addressed
in
in
these
local
communities
and
I
mean
I
could
see
the
benefit
of
that
approach.
B
I
also
know
that
it
could
politicize
something
and
hold
residents
of
these
communities
hostage
if
they're,
if
these
issues
become
political
and
additionally,
some
of
these
communities
are
having
a
hard
time,
finding
a
licensed
provider
to
serve
in
local
Health
departments,
because
they
don't
pay.
We
already
have
an
issue
of
access
to
to
care
in
these
in
some
of
these
counties,
and
so
this
is
a
an
issue
that
I
think
this
bill
will
need
to
address
and
we'll
sort
of
see
how
the
bill
and
language
changes
going
forward.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Senator
Yoder
I
believe
that
Madison.
You
are
next
on
the
list
to
ask
your
question.
F
Thank
you
I'm
curious.
If
the
general
assembly
will
seriously
consider
rolling
back
the
state
mandated
referendum
language
that
emphasizes
the
percent
by
which
school
property
taxes
will
increase
here
in
Brown
County,
you
probably
know
we
just
had
a
failed
referendum.
We
were
trying
to
go
from
8
cents
to
12
cents,
which
reads
over
a
33
percent
increase
to
average
property
taxes
on
the
ballot,
which
many
people
feel
is
confusing.
So
just
wondering
if
there
is
a
concerted
effort
to
address
this.
A
All
right
and
Senator
Yoder
we'll
go
to
you.
First.
B
Looking
over
my
notes,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I,
don't
I'm,
not
sure
if,
if
that
percentage,
change
or
if
that
language
has
been
filed,
I'll
have
to
look
honestly.
B
So
many
of
the
bills
just
became
all
of
the
bills
became
viewable
just
this
week
and
so
I
haven't
made
my
way
through
all
of
them.
But
I
do
know.
There
is
a
bill
that
I
believe
is
starting.
B
It
has
started
in
the
Senate,
but
it
gives
counties
the
ability
to
set
up
different
zoning
areas
within
a
county
to
additionally
to
cap
property
tax,
even
more
so
so
that
is
of
concern
to
public
education
that
you
could
have
these
zones
where
you
could
have
additional
I
have
notes
on
it.
I'm
trying
to
find
where,
where
I
wrote
those
notes,
but
there
is
a
bill,
not
necessarily
speaking
to
the
referendum
language,
but
it
does
change
the
way
counties
can
create
zones
to
cap
property.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Shelly
Matt.
Would
you
like
to
weigh
in
on
this
question
please.
C
Yeah
I
I
have
not
heard
any
discussion
yet
about
changing
this
requirement
that
you
know
referendums
for
additional
school
funding
be
couched
in
terms
of
the
percentage
increase
which
is
in
incredibly
misleading
and
I.
Think
probably
deliberately
done
that
way,
because
the
legislature,
at
every
turn,
has
tried
to
make
it
harder
and
harder
to
pass
these
referendums
to
what
people
choose
to
pay
some
higher
taxes
to
support
their
schools.
C
So
I
know
that
some
advocacy
groups
for
the
for
the
schools
have
said
they
wanted
to
have
this
issue
addressed
in
this
session,
but
I
just
have
not
heard
about
where
it
might
happen.
So
I,
don't
know
if
that
means
they've
just
hit
a
brick
wall
talking
to
the
people
that
control
the
education
committees
or
whether
they've
got
kind
of
a
plan
to
drop
something
into
a
bill
as
it
begins
to
move,
but
so
far
I
have
not
heard
about
that.
C
But,
as
Shelly
pointed
out,
you
know,
I
think
we
just
had
our
final
bill
list,
which
tells
you
all
the
bills
have
been
introduced,
and
so
you
know
we're
still
becoming
familiar
with.
What's
out
there,
which
I'll
just
say
you
know,
is
one
of
the
challenges
of
serving
the
legislature:
I
mean
you
get
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
bills
introduced,
most
of
which
will
never
go
anywhere,
so
you're
kind
of
interested
in
what's
in
them,
but
at
the
same
time
your
committees
start
gearing
up,
and
so
now
you're
actually
voting
on
legislation
and
committee.
C
So
you
got
to
spend
most
of
your
time
really
studying
carefully
the
bills
you're
voting
on
in
committee
and
prepare
any
amendments.
Plus,
what's
beginning
to
come
to
the
floor,
so
a
lot
of
times
bills
will
get
introduced
that
never
get
hurt
in
a
committee
and
I'll
I
will
not
even
be
that
familiar
with
them,
because
I
just
haven't
had
time
to
go
back
and
just
see
what
are
the
ideas
that
people
are
putting
out
there.
So
you
know
there's
lots
of
time
in
a
session
for
other
things
to
pop
up.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
answer
both
of
you,
because
I
know
this
has
to
be
an
overwhelming
time
for
for
legislators
to
really
get
a
handle
on
what
you
need
to
take
deep
dives
into
and
what
you
can
kind
of
skim
over
I
want
to
call
on
the
next
person
to
ask
their
question,
and
that
is
Christina.
A
Lindborg
and
I
want
to
encourage
anyone
else
who
has
a
question,
or
maybe
a
comment
to
discuss,
to
add
to
the
conversation
to
please
get
in
the
queue
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
ask
their
questions
or
make
comments
to
the
representatives
on
the
legislation
that
we
are
discussing
so
Christina
Lindberg.
If
you
would
unmute
and
ask
your
question,
you
have
one
minute.
G
Thank
you
good
morning,
Shelly
and
Matt,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
I
would
like
to
know
what
messaging
and
strategies
you
would
recommend
for
us
to
help
you
build
support
bipartisan
support,
in
particular
for
the
climate,
Solutions
task
force
bills
and
also
the
greenhouse
inventory
grant
program
bill.
C
So
the
first
thing
you
have
to
do
is
convince
the
committee
chair
to
get
the
bill
in
hearing.
So
what
I
would
say
is
you
would
want
to
focus
as
much
effort
as
you
could
to
contacting
people
within
that
chairperson's
district
and
getting
those
people
to
you,
know,
email
and
call
and
contact
them
raise
questions
that
their
Town
Hall
meetings
to
say:
hey.
C
We
want
you
to
hear
this
bill
and
then
you
have
to
Fan
out
from
that
to
all
the
members
of
the
committee,
because
if
you
do
get
a
hearing,
then
you
obviously
need
to
get
a
majority
to
committee
to
vote
it
out.
So
then
you
have
to
repeat
that
same
process,
whether
you
use
social
media,
whatever
organization
tools,
you
have
to
get
as
many
people
in
those
districts
to
contact
them.
So
once
you
got
the
bill
moving,
let's
assume
you
accomplish
that
and
the
bill
comes
out
of
committee.
C
Now
you
have
to
expand
it
yet
again
to
all
members
of
the
house
or
the
Senate.
Wherever
the
bill
is
first
moving
and
once
you
get
through
that
process
in
the
first
half
of
the
legislature,
then
you
have
to
start
it
completely
all
over
again,
because
bills
often
pass
out
of
the
Senate
come
to
the
house
and
don't
get
a
hearing
same
thing
can
happen
with
some
house
bills.
Get
passed
over.
The
Senate
goes
to
a
committee,
and
a
committee
chair
says:
I,
don't
like
this
bill.
C
So
there's
no
rule
that
you
have
to
hear
a
bill
just
because
it
passed
the
other
house.
So
it's
just
a
lot
of
hard
kind
of
grunt
work
with
Grassroots
organizing,
so
that
legislators
hear
from
a
significant
number
of
people
in
their
District.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
answer.
Shelly.
If
you
would
please
give
us
your
thoughts
on
this
question.
B
You
can
work
individually
so
right
now,
I
I'm
I
am
Gathering.
A
list
of
co-authors
I
have
Republican
senator
Ron
Alton
as
a
co-author.
I
have
Republican
senator
John
Ford
and
their
constituents
can
reach
out
to
them
and
and
get
them
to
start
working,
they're
already
a
co-author.
So
they
can.
We
can
expand
sort
of
at
the
level
of
what
I
see
is
if
the
more
co-authors
I
can
get
on
the
bill.
Then
that
expands
the
constituents
who
can
really
apply
pressure
to
have
their
co-author.
B
Try
to
get
this
bill
heard
in
committee.
It
has,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
been
assigned
to
environment
and
Senator
Niemeyer
is
the
chair
and
you
can
apply
pressure
to
have
him
hear
the
hear
the
bill.
You
can
start
there
and
also
start.
If
you
know
anybody,
Senator
alting
represents
a
West
Lafayette
area.
Senator
John
Ford
represents
the
Terre
Haute
area
and
I
have
a
couple
of
co-authors
who
are
signing
on
additional
I
I'll.
Get
you
the
full
list,
but
I
think
it's
just
applying
pressure.
B
One
person
that
you
have
access
to,
if
you
are
in
Senator
Cook's
District,
apply
a
pressure
to
him
to
come
on
to
the
bill.
I,
good
luck,
I
I,
hope,
I
I.
If
he
was
on
this
call,
I
would
say
please
come
on
the
bill.
All
it's
doing
is
just
creating
a
Solutions
task
force,
so
we're
not
approaching
climate
mitigation
and
adaptation
and
all
these
different
siled
off
departments
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
B
But
we
can
have
a
joint
conversation
about
how
we're
approaching
it
and
it
could
save
money
in
the
long
run,
which
is
a
very
conservative
approach.
Applying
pressure
to
get
him
to
come
on
the
bill
would
would
be
a
great
success.
So
that's
those
are
some
efforts
that
I
would
encourage
you
to
continue
working
on.
If
you
are
a
part
of
some
Grassroots
advocacy
groups,
have
them
apply
some
pressure
as
well
to
Senator
Niemeyer,
to
hear
the
bill.
A
B
C
If
I
could
just
edit
something
else
that
you
need
to
know
for
backgrounds
in
the
house,
so
there's
some
political
things
lurking
in
the
background
on
all
these
fossil
fuel
issues,
nor
no
matter
where
they
come
up.
So
in
the
last
election
cycle,
the
Republican
leadership
in
the
house
decided
they
wanted
to
purge
a
couple
of
members
at
least
two
who
they
thought
were
a
little
bit
too
extreme
and
kind
of
embarrassing
their
caucus,
and
so
they
put
millions
of
dollars
into
primaries
to
take
those
people
out.
C
What
that
did
then
is
to
drain
their
budget
a
bit
for
the
general
election.
So
what
ended
up
happening
is
the
Americans
for
Prosperity
group
founded
in
2004
by
the
Koch
brothers,
major
owners
of
fossil
fuel
Industries.
They
stepped
up
and
basically
ran
independent
campaigns
on
behalf
of
the
House
Republicans.
And
so,
if
you
looked
at
your
direct
mail,
if
you're
in
certain
districts
you'd
see
on
bottom,
it
like
paid
for
by
Americans
for
Prosperity.
C
So
when
decisions
are
being
made
in,
at
least
in
the
house,
I
believe
about
whether
you
do
things
for
or
against
fossil
fuels.
I
think
in
the
back
of
the
minds
of
a
lot
of
people
like
hey
these
fossil
fuel,
guys
through
Americans
for
Prosperity,
helped
us
out
in
our
last
election
cycle
and
those
kinds
of
things
and
that
gets
in
a
whole,
dark
money
and
all
kinds
of
other
issues
that
we
could
talk
about
for
days.
But
I
think
that
that
is
explained.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
insights.
I
I
know
that
we
went
a
little
bit
over
time,
but
it's
valuable
information
for
all
of
us
and
I
am
going
to
be
calling
on
the
next
person
that
I
have
in
the
queue
I
do
see.
A
couple
of
individuals
have
raised
their
hands
and
I
do
encourage
you
to
go
into
the
chat
and
direct
your.
A
If
you
have
a
question
to
ask
just
say:
I
have
a
question
to
ask
and
that's
how
you
get
in
the
queue
for
for
these
questions.
So
the
next
person
I'd
like
to
call
on
is
Bruce
Jaffe
Bruce.
If
you
would
unmute
and
ask
your
question
I
believe
it
will
go
first
to
Shelley,
okay,.
H
Thank
you
very
much
man
and
jelly.
Thank
you
very
much
for
showing
up
for
this
forum.
As
Sunny
pointed
out
the
other
half
dozen
rough
legislators
in
this
area
decline
to
participate
in
this
session
and
then
my
recollection
is
they
did
not
participate
in
the
last
legislative
session
as
well.
H
My
question
is:
are
you
aware
of
if
this
is
a
Statewide
populate
our
decision
or
boycott
by
the
Republican
party
to
boycott
these
El
League
of
Women,
voter
or
other
legislative
forums?.
B
What's
going
on
there,
I
am
trying
to
work
with
my
office
and
we're
Matt
I,
don't
know
if
you're
LED,
your
La
has
spoken
to
about
this
trying
to
create
a
town
hall
that
is
not
sponsored
by
anybody,
but
would
bring
this
group
together,
maybe
at
the
library
or
someplace,
because
what
happens
is
people
don't
get
to
hear
from
you
and
we
don't
get
to
hear
from
you.
We
don't
get
to
hear
what
your
thoughts
are
on
certain
pieces
of
legislation.
We
don't
get
to.
B
Sometimes
it's
I
don't
get
to
hear
how
you
feel
about
certain
votes
and
it's
information
that
I
need.
It
helps
me
become
a
more
effective
legislator.
I
can
understand.
Obviously
my
district
more
but
I
haven't
heard
an
official
stance
on
why
our
Republican
friends
aren't
participating
in
forms
like
this
I
just
know
that
they
are
not
whether
it's
a
debate
before
an
election
or
legislative
updates.
After
elected
leaders
are
elected.
C
C
I
think
the
theory
is
that
you
know
if
you
create
controversy
that
will
attract
what
little
media
is
left
in
the
state
and
that
might
actually
get
people
focused
on
the
issue.
So
I
think
there
is
a
general
strategy
of
just
not
engaging
on
issues.
I
I
think
that
our
particular
situation
here
has
maybe
more
to
do
with
gerrymandering.
Now,
when
I
see
members
coming
up
on
the
weekend,
I
always
ask
them:
hey
you're,
going
to
come
to
the
League
Forum
this
weekend
and
a
lot
of
times.
C
C
But
you
know
if
you're
a
legislator
and
the
center
of
gravity
of
your
district
is
in
Terre
Haute
and
that's,
where
kind
of
all
the
votes
are
to
convince
them
to
get
in
their
car
and
drive
across
and
participate
in
this
County
form
when
they've
got
you
know
a
couple
townships
or
something
is
a
hard
sell,
plus
I
think
that
they
also
know
that
you
know
when
I
go
to
a
Bloomington,
Forum
I'm
gonna
get
pressed
on
a
lot
of
hard
questions
from
people
who
probably
have
very
different
viewpoints
that
what
that
legislator
is
advancing
in
the
legislature,
which
may
be
in
sync
with
people
in
a
place
like
Bedford
or
Martinsville
or
some
other
area,
but
not
a
particular
section
of
Monroe
County.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
both
Shelly
and
Matt
I
did
want
to
mention
that
Senator
cook
did
respond
to
our
invitation
and
advised
that
he
could
not
be
present
today,
because
his
mother
passed
away
yesterday,
so
I
did
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
that
he
did
respond
but
was
not
able
to
be
here.
A
I
Thank
you
very
much
Matt
and
Shelly
for
for
coming
to
this
event.
First
of
all,
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
support
for
Senate
bill.
One
I'm
very
excited
to
see
the
Community
certified
community
behavioral
health
center
funding
model
be
supported
and
I
hope
that
that
moves
through
I
was
wondering
if
either
of
you
had
any
had
seen
in
the
in
the
budget
or
any
other
legislation
that
would
be
expanding
or
increasing.
The
number
of
State
run.
Mental
health
facilities.
C
You
know,
I
haven't
seen
it
yet
I
thought
that
somebody
told
me
there
was
something
in
the
Senate.
That
was
because
we
got
this
1006
bill,
which
is
going
to
give
law
enforcement
more
the
ability
to
divert
people
into
a
mental
health
system
as
opposed
to
just
arresting
them
and
I
raised
this
question
about
well.
Where
are
they
going
to
go
and
I?
Think
someone
said
that
there
that
that
piece
was
going
to
start
over
in
the
Senate,
but
I
don't
know
that
for
certain
it
could
also
maybe
end
up
in
the
budget
bill.
J
B
Thank
you
thanks,
Jeff.
Oh
sorry,
no
go
ahead.
Shelly
thanks
a
lot
Jeff
I
haven't
heard
anything
specific
to
that,
but
I
think
Senate
bill.
One
is
trying
to
create
a
method
to
which
we
can
begin
building
an
infrastructure
and
identifying
what
would
be
the
best
approach
to
to
creating
either
Community
Health
centers
hospitals,
how
we're
going
to
fund
them.
What
the
need
is
right
now
we
we
don't
really
have
the
capacity
or
we're
not
doing
that
so
I
haven't
heard.
B
If
that
is
going
to
be
the
approach
or
not,
but
the
conversation
is
just
starting
I'll
stay
connected
with
you
and
do
a
little
digging
around
specifically
about
your
question
and
see
if
I
can
get
better
answers.
Thank.
C
C
I'm
sorry
I
keep
having
these
after
thoughts.
I
should
throw
in
that
I
think
I
believe
that
1006,
which
deals
with
diverting
people
into
a
mental
health
treatment
as
opposed
to
incarcerating
them,
is
set
for
a
hearing
on
Wednesday
at
10.
30.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
been
officially
announced
yet,
but
I
expect
that
bill
to
be
heard
and
that
doesn't
have
funding
for
centers
into,
but
I'm
definitely
bringing
that
issue
up
into
community.
C
A
Well
and
I
guess:
I'm
going
to
exercise
my
moderator
privilege
here,
because
I
want
to
dovetail
on
that
question
and
the
earlier
bill
that
you
mentioned
about
the
joint
resolution.
One
making
bail,
not
available
because
as
a
former
prosecutor
and
I
know
that
prosecutors
have
testified
in
favor
of
that
joint
resolution
which,
but
as
a
prosecutive
former
prosecutor,
I'm
just
curious.
A
It
seems
like
we've
gone
backwards
in
our
handling
of
individuals
who
have
mental
health
problems
and
end
up
more
likely
than
not
in
the
criminal
justice
system
rather
than
in
a
mental
health
system.
And
how
denying
bail
to
someone
dangerous
is
going
to
impact
our
ability
to
stop
that
propensity,
because
it's
mainly
people
who
have
mental
health
problems
that
are
being
arrested
because
they
appear
to
be
dangerous
to
themselves
or
others.
B
I
would
just
all
I
was
going
to
say
is
preach.
Sonny,
yes,
I
have
I,
have
concern
as
well
and
I.
Don't
think,
sewing
joint
resolution,
one
it's.
It
stands
in
opposition
of
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
do
in
responding
as
a
state
to
the
behavioral
health
concerns
to
some
of
the
Criminal
Justice
Reform
that
we
have
done
over
the
last
five
to
six
years.
I.
It
just
stands
in
stark
contrast
to
that
work.
So
I
agree
with
you
and
I
know.
B
A
I
agree
so
Matt
did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
say
yeah.
C
I
think
this
is
being
driven
by
a
little
bit
of
national
politics
and
a
lot
of
Marion
County
politics.
So
you
know,
as
you
know,
in
the
last
election,
the
national
Republicans
really
tried
to
make
crime
into
a
major
issue
which
they
hoped
would
you
know,
Drive
votes
their
way,
even
though
a
lot
of
times
statistics
didn't
support
it.
C
The
Republicans
on
or
the
Democrats
on
in
the
upcoming
mayoral
election
is
this
issue
of
crime,
and
you
know
the
interesting
thing
is
they
really
went
after
the
prosecutor
in
Marion
County
in
the
last
election,
and
they
said
that
you
know,
because
he'd
announced
that
he
was
not
going
to
enforce
certain
crimes
and
you
know
is
known
as
a
progressive
prosecutor,
and
so
they
spent
a
lot
of
money
really
went
hard
after
him
said
he's
making
you
less
safe,
biased
decisions
and
he
won
by
80
percent.
C
The
argument
on
the
local
level
of
Marion
County
are
just
bringing
that
into
the
state
house,
and
this
is
the
latest
one
just
to
perpetuate
the
idea
that
lots
of
horrible,
dangerous,
violent
people
are
being
led
out
of
jail
when
they
shouldn't
be,
and
then
they're
victimizing
you
and-
and
so
this
amendment
I
think
is
kind
of
political
messaging,
because
we
have
had
this
on
the
books
since
the
Constitution
was
passed,
you
know
went
into
effect
like
in
1852,
and
there
are
plenty
of
ways
for
judges
to
keep
dangerous
people
in
jail.
C
They
can
set
that
bail
really
high
to
the
point
where
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
bail
to
get
out,
and
so
you
know
what
I
think
will
event.
What
will
happen
if
this
passes
is
you're
just
going
to
have
a
lot
of
minority
people
spending
long
time
in
jail
awaiting
trial
and
then
there's
a
whole
other
discussion.
C
You
can
have
about
that,
because
what
you
find
is
that
poor
people
who
can't
bail
out
of
jail,
they
just
plead
guilty
because
the
prosecutors
say
like
if
you
plead
guilty
to
this
I'll,
just
ask
the
judge
to
sentence
you
to
time
served
in
the
county
jail,
and
so
it's
like
an
immediate
get
out
of
jail
free
card.
If
you
just
roll
over
and
accept
the
plea
bargain-
and
that
happens
an
awful
lot
in
these
bigger
cities,
and
so
there's
just
a
lot
of
negative
consequences
that
I
think
could
flow
for
it.
C
But
you
know
you
have
to
admit
it.
Somebody
says
like
gee:
should
we
change
the
Constitution
to
make
sure
we
can
keep
violent,
dangerous
people
in
jail
and
not
be
forced
to
let
them
out
in
the
streets?
Well,
of
course
that's
a
no-brainer,
but
that's
really
not
how
the
system's
working
the
judges
recognize
who
are
really
violent
and
they
they
use
that
bail
system
to
keep
them
in
there.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
got
a
little
bit
off
on
a
rabbit
Trail,
but
I
think
it.
A
Maybe
it
was
kind
of
an
important
one,
both
with
the
comments
that
both
of
you
had
made
and
Shelly
had
asked
for
feedback
on
this
and
I'm
kind
of
wondering
here
we
do
have
the
ability
we
have
52
people
on
this
call
and
I
guess
I
just
asked,
if
maybe
those
who
are
opposed
to
this
Constitutional
Amendment,
if
you
don't
mind,
raising
your
hands
it
just
to
give
Shelley
and
Matt
an
overall
feeling
about
whether
or
not
you
would
support
this
kind
of
legislation.
A
So
if
you
and
are
in
opposition
to
this
kind
of
Constitutional
Amendment,
if
you
would
raise
your
hand
that
might
be
helpful
to
them
going
forward
in
this
legislative
session
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
tell
everybody
who's
raised
their
hands.
Please
make
sure
and
let
your
the
committee
members
know
that
your
legislative
Representatives
know
about
your
opposition,
because
this
is
a
big
deal.
A
Thank
you
so
much
so
many
of
you
have
raised
your
hand
and
Shelly
and
Matt
I
hope
that
this
is
helpful
to
you,
showing
that
there
seems
to
be
quite
a
bit
of
agreement
with
the
fact
that
this
is
kind
of
an
Overkill
situation.
Judges
are
elected
to
help
make
these
discretionary
calls,
and
you
know
the
judges
that
I
know
are
very
conscientious
in
doing
that.
A
So
now,
I
think
we
should
probably
move
on
to
the
next
person,
who
has
a
question
and
I
believe
that
the
next
one
in
the
queue
is
Dave,
burnworth
and
Dave.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
you
if
you
would
please
unmute
and
ask
your
questions
and
I
believe
that
Matt
is
going
to
be
the
first
one
up
to
answer
the
next
question.
K
Hi
I'm
Dave
Burner
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
Monroe
Owen
County
Medical
Society,
and
have
50
years
of
experience
in
medical
practices
and
Medicine,
as
you
might
expect,
I
want
to
address:
ask
about
Senate
Bill
7
for
non-competes.
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
where
this
is
heading?
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
as
I
said,
I
think
Matt
you're
first
in
the
queue
for
this
one.
C
Yeah
I
I
think
it's
probably
going
to
become
law.
The
outline
these
non-competes.
As
you
know,
the
Federal
Trade
Commission
on
the
federal
levels,
they're
also
going
to
try
to
get
rid
of
non-competes
just
generally
across
the
economy,
but
I
know
that
my
sense
is
in
the
house.
There's
a
lot
of
support
for
doing
that.
You
know,
quite
frankly,
what
legislators
are
seeing
is
we've
had
a
consolidation
in
the
health
care
industry.
We
have
you
know
two
or
three
major
non-profit
systems.
C
Now
that
kind
of
dominate
the
state
and
we've
heard
a
lot
from
providers
that
you
know
they're
kind
of
handcuffed,
because,
if
they're
unhappy
with
their
work
conditions
within
one
system,
they
really
can't
move
to
another
system,
because
they've
got
these
Geographic
restrictions
and
because
the
system's
covering
such
a
large
area,
it
forces
them
to
have
to
move
out
of
state,
and
we
have
less
providers
here,
which
is
another
thing
I
hear
from
constituents
constantly
is
that
you
know
it's
hard
to
even
get
an
appointment
and
you
know,
get
a
general
practitioner
and
there's
other
factors
there,
but
I
think
some
of
it
has
to
do
with
the
way
our
institutions
are
being
managed.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
Shelly
I
think
that
first
of
all,
I
want
to
remind
everyone
who
raised
their
hands
to
you
can
go
back
into
the
reactions
and
lower
your
hand.
Now
that
we
have
concluded
that
short
vote,
that
we
had
the
next
individual
in
the
queue
to
ask
a
question
is
Margaret
Clements,
so
Margaret.
If
you
would
unmute
and
ask
your
question,
then
Shelly
will
be
the
first
one
to
respond.
This
time.
L
Well,
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
Shelly
and
Matt
for
showing
up
today
and
taking
our
questions
and
concerns.
L
Of
course,
I'm
calling
in
about
the
Senate
Bill
219
that
changes,
annexation
and
I
think
the
gist
of
the
new
bill
is
that
it
eliminates
involuntary
annexation
in
that
the
city,
the
municipality
must
collect
signatures
from
51
percent
of
the
people,
property
owners
in
the
annexation,
territory
or
75
percent
of
the
assessed
value
of
not-for-profits
in
the
proposed
annexation
area.
L
I
would
like
to
urge
you
to
vote
for
that,
but
I
also
would
like
to
see
the
threshold
raised
for
the
not-for-profits
or
the
special
condition
for
the
not-for-profits
to
be
eliminated
altogether,
because
it
gives
too
much
sway
for
for
them
over
property
owners
in
the
community.
So
if
there's
any
way,
you
can
adjust
that
or
if
you
could
explain
how
it
affects
the
current
annexation
efforts
here
in
Bloomington
I'd
be
really
happy
to
hear
your
thoughts.
But
thank
you.
B
Shelly,
thank
you
so
much
Margaret.
Let
me
do
a
little
bit
of
research
on
the
new
language
of
SB,
219
I'll
I'll
meet
with
Senator
Buck
I.
Think
is
the
author
of
that
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
really
digest
it
yet,
and
it's
so
interesting
when
you
don't
serve
in
those
committees,
you
you
don't
hear
it
as
early.
You
can
hear
about
it
later
on,
but
I
just
need
to
do
a
little
bit
of
research
and
get
back
to
you.
B
Margaret
I,
don't
know
what
the
best
is,
because
then
it's
just
getting
back
to
Margaret
and
not
to
the
whole
group
here,
but
I
I
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
and
Margaret.
What
I
would
appreciate
actually
is
when
I
reach
back
out
to
you.
If
you
what
you
said,
you
would
like
to
see
some
improvements
in
the
language.
Let
me
know
what
those
are
and
we
can
see.
B
A
C
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
bill
in
the
Senate,
but
you
know
if
it
does
pass
out
of
the
Senate.
The
house
is
not
likely
to
take
it
up
until
the
beginning
of
March,
so
kind
of
the
half
time
where
each
house
finishes
up
consideration
of
bills.
C
Interested
in
his
house
is
right
at
the
end
of
February
and
there's
like
a
little
bit
of
a
pause
that
first
week
of
March,
and
then
the
house
will
begin
working
on
Senate
bills
and
the
Senate
will
begin
working
on
house
bills
and
again
it's
up
to
the
committee
chairs
as
to
whether
they
move
any
bills
to
come.
You
know
from
the
other
house
in
the
second
half.
So
as
far
as
addressing
that
issue
or
any
amendments
to
the
bill
on
the
house
side,
we
won't
have
a
shot
at
that,
probably
until
March.
A
Okay,
so
there's
time
to
get
familiar
with
it
and
come
up
with
an
appropriate
strategy,
but
it
also
sounds
like
maybe
Margaret
needs
to
be
in
some
direct
communication
with
Shelley
and
you
on
that
matter.
A
The
next
individual
in
the
or
individuals
in
the
Q
are
Jim
and
Tommy
Allison,
Jim
and
Tommy.
If
you
want
to
unmute
and
ask
your
question
and
then
we
will
go
from
there.
M
M
I
want
to
say
that
in
the
newspaper
it
says
that
the
national
Republican
party
has
decided
that
that
siloing
information
to
the
public
in
the
debates
that
they
are
now
negotiating
for
public
debates
for
the
2024
presidential
election,
because
they
found
out
that
The
Independents
and
the
Republican
suburbs
they
needed
to
reach
them
as
well,
and
that
the
siloing
of
you
know
avoiding
these
public
debates
are,
are
not
a
good,
a
good
thing
for
getting
at
getting
their
vote
now.
M
I
appreciate,
we've
got
two
very
hard
working
and
informed
people
and
I
think
that
they
are
great,
but
I
think
that
it's
very
difficult
for
the
general
voter
to
actually
know
what
the
heck
is
going
on
in
the
state
and
so
I.
What
I
would
suggest
is
as
a
way
to
counter
this,
because
we
absolutely
have
to
have
an
informed
voter
to
be
able
to
get
a
responsible
legislator
and
so
to
counter
this.
M
How
about
concentrating
those
who
really
want
to
serve
the
public,
concentrating
on
on
the
three
big
issues,
which
is
health,
education
and
environment,
and
get
the
get
the
message
out
to
the
public
about
what
the
actual
condition
is
in
Indiana?
So
we
take
just
health
and
you've
mentioned
that
we're
45th
in
the
nation
and
I'll
expenditure
on
public
health,
and
then
you
can
say
about
what
our
figures
are:
our
maternal
and
infant
Health.
Okay,.
M
C
Yeah,
certainly
the
sad
state
of
Journalism
these
days
has
really
changed
things
I
mean
we
basically
got
this
hedge
fund
newspaper
now,
which
is
limping
along
and
we
just
don't
have
things
covered.
You
know,
I'm
I'm
wistful
for
the
old
days
of
Kurt
Vander
doosen,
coming
up
to
the
Capitol
and
asking
what
all
the
county
you
know.
Legislators
were
doing
and
writing
about
it
and
you
kind
of
knew
that
if
you
just
got
your
information
into
the
local
newspaper,
a
majority
of
the
public
would
hear
about
it.
C
C
For
you
know,
a
somewhat
new
publication
now
called
the
Indiana
Capital
Chronicle,
which
is
a
non-profit
effort,
and
it's
kind
of
run
by
a
woman
named
Nikki
Kelly,
who
used
to
be
a
long
time.
State
House
reporter
she's
still
there
for
the
Fort
Wayne
Journal
Gazette,
so
she's
pretty
seasoned,
but
anyway,
if
it's
a
Indiana
capital
chronicle.com
or
you
can
just
Google
Indiana
Capital
Chronicle
and
they
do
probably
the
best
job
of
covering.
C
What's
going
on
they're,
just
kind
of
focused
in
on
that
you
know
here
in
Bloomington
we
pretty
much
get
the
Indianapolis
Star
Stories,
like
three
days
later
after
they
run,
Indianapolis
and
and
so
I
think
that's
one
place
you
can
go
to
get
some
more
detailed
information
about
the
legislature.
A
Matt,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
information
and
that
recommendation
Shelly.
Would
you
like
to
weigh
in
on
this
question
or
yes,.
B
Tommy
I
agree
with
you
and
I'm.
The
great
thing
is
I,
agree,
I,
think
locally.
Some
I
had
actually
put
in
my
notes
the
Indiana
Capital
Chronicle
too,
and
let
you
know,
but
there
again,
it's
not
a
printed.
You
have
to
have
access
to
the
internet.
You
have
to
be
able
to
have
a
a
device
to
to
read
it,
but
it
is
good
if
you
can
sign
up
for
this
and
support
these.
B
These
independent
folks
who
are
trying
to
get
do
good
journalism
and
the
Indiana
Capital
chronicle
chronicle
is
trying
to
do
just
that
and
I
would
add
to
that.
The
public
health,
public
education
and
environment
agreed.
Those
are
three
issues
that
we
need
to
keep
coming
back
to
and
informing
folks.
So,
hopefully
I
don't
even
know
if
it's
a
possibility
to
get
a
fine,
get
some
answers
as
to
what
are
these
other
forums
that
is
in
conflict
with
maybe
this
time
that
we
have.
Can
we
do
something
jointly?
A
That's
a
really
good
suggestion,
Shelly
and
maybe
something
that
the
league
and
or
chamber
might
partner
in
trying
to
suss
out.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
do
believe.
We
have
another
question
in
the
queue
from
Bill,
Walters
and
so
bill.
Would
you
please
unmute
and
ask
your
question.
N
Yes,
it
regards
the
Vectren
Supreme
Court
decision
regarding
how
solar
energy
is
charged
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
any
chance
that
the
legislature
might
revisit
that
issue.
What
Vectren
wanted
to
do
in
the
Tariff
commission
approved
as
I,
understand
or
standard,
was
instantaneous
charging
and
what
had
been
done
in
the
past
was
the
utility
companies
would
settle
up
at
the
end
of
the
billing
period
and
so
for
individual
solar
owners.
It's
going
to
be
a
much
more
expensive
process
and
discourage
even
more
people
from
doing
it.
A
B
I
appreciate
that
question
and
I
don't
have
good
news
there.
I
don't
see
this
happening
this
session.
If
ever
but
I
really
appreciate,
I
mean
I've
I'm,
trying
to
educate
myself
as
much
as
I
can
I'm
on
utilities.
I
can
I
continue
to
try
to
have
conversations
with
Senator
cook
and
on
the
house
side,
Senator
holiday
holiday,
it's
no
holiday
because
holiday,
because
there
is
a
bit
of
a
gatekeeper.
I
know:
I
started
working
with
a
newly
elected
Republican
senator
who
shares
this
interest.
B
He
represents
parts
of
Tippecanoe
County
and
initially
we
were
having
great
conversations
and
those
have
pretty
much
stopped
so
I'm
going.
That
is
unfortunate,
but
I
think
he
started
feeling
some
pressure
from
leadership
and
so
I
don't
have
great
a
great
answer
for
you,
Bill
but
I
know
we
just
have
to
keep
trying
to
educate
and
do
some
grass
for
continue
to
do.
Grassroots
work
to
change
this
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
Matt.
Add
to
that.
C
I'm
not
very
hopeful
either,
but
we're
going
to
take
a
shot
at
it.
So
I've
got
my
eye
out
for
Jermaine
bill.
That
I
can
offer
a
second
reading
Amendment
on
the
house
floor
to
force
a
vote
on
it.
It's
very
frustrating
they're
misinterpreting
the
statute.
The
Utility
Commission
should
have
never
allowed
that
to
happen.
C
I
tried
to
get
them
to
proactively
clarify
this,
so
we
didn't
have
to
wait
for
the
Supreme
Court
decision,
but
they
said.
Oh,
we
shouldn't
do
anything
while
there's
litigation
pending
and
they
might
use
that
excuse
again
because
that
first
case
there
are
four
other
cases
based
on
a
similar
issue
and
Duke
Energy.
In
their
case
they
kept
saying
over
and
over
again.
C
Ours
is
different
than
vectrum,
because
they're
absolutely
convinced
a
Vectren
is
going
to
lose
on
appeal
and
they
did
lose
in
a
quarter
of
appeals,
but
then
the
the
Supreme
Court
in
a
in
an
opinion,
I
guess
I
won't
get
into
that
I'll.
Take
too
long,
but
anyway,
the
the
bottom
line,
I
believe,
is
the
people
in
charge
of
energy
policy
in
the
general
assembly
today
kind
of
support
Renewables.
C
Only
in
the
form
of
industrial
grade
Renewables,
where
it
goes
into
the
major
utilities
rate
base,
and
then
they
earn
a
profit
off
of
it,
and
there
has
been
zero
policy
making
to
support
Community
solar,
rooftop,
solar,
microgrids,
all
the
things
that
could
really
benefit
individual
consumers
and
help
us
on
a
road
to
a
zero
carbon
energy
economy.
So
it's
just
they
just
don't
have
any
interest
in
it
and
I
keep
kind
of
banging
away
as
best
I
can,
but
I
have
not
made
any
Headway.
Yet.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
Matt
and
Shelly
for
your
answer
on
that
question.
The
next
individual
in
the
queue
is
Carrie
mixa,
and
then
we
have
three
more
in
the
queue
I
hope
we
can
get
to
everyone,
but
we
do
also
have
to
leave
time
for
closing
statements,
so
I'll
do
the
best
I
can
but
Carrie
at
this
time.
If
you
would
like
to
unmute
and
ask
your
question,
you
have
one
minute.
O
Hi
there
hi
Everybody
I,
have
one
question
to
ask,
but
before
that
I
wanted
to
point
out,
there
was
a
legislative
breakfast
this
morning
in
Spencer,
and
it
was
sponsored
by
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
there
and
Bray
was
president
was
present
as
well
as
a
few
other
legislators,
so
people
are
showing
up
I
I,
don't
know
if
it's
who's
sponsoring
it
or
what
or
just
because
it's
Monroe
County,
but
it's
unfortunate
that
Representatives,
like
Hall,
are
not
present,
especially
since
Brown
County
is
here
and
that
there
was
an
important
question
about
the
referendum
language
and
that's
in
his
district
Brown
County
anyway.
O
My
question
is:
has
to
do
with
the
heavy
push
in
advertising
for
sharing
tax
dollars
with
Charter
Schools
two
bills
have
been
filed,
SB,
sorry,
SB
40s.
No,
no,
sorry!
That's
a
Christmas
tree
built
SB,
398
and
HB
1607,
which
is
sharing
property
tax
dollars
with
Charters
and
transfer
students,
so
students
that
transfer
from
one
school
district
to
another
Brown
County's
got
that
issue
in
regards
to
their
school
district.
A
lot
of
kids
transfer
out
of
County
to
other
counties.
C
Yeah,
this
is
all
part
of
the
end
game
to
get
the
money
away
from
the
public
schools
and
in
the
hands
of
private
voucher
schools
and
just
create
a
system
where
public
schools
are
not
funded
directly,
that
they
will
have
to
convince
parents
to
funnel
the
money
to
them.
And
you
know
the
first
thing
when
you
bring
this
up.
The
first
thing
you
hear
is
like
charter
schools
are
public
schools
and
therefore
they
should
deserve
to
get
some
of
the
money
too,
and
they
point
out
it's
like.
Well,
they
don't
have
elected
school
boards.
C
They
don't
have
much
transparency
and
you
know
they're
in
a
different
situation,
and
they
just
don't
seem
that
interested
in
it,
and
so
I
mean
the
fact
that
house
bill
1607
was
introduced
by
Bob
baining
who's,
the
chair
of
the
education
committee,
the
number
one
champion
in
the
house
of
this
Milton
Friedman
approach
to
the
world
I
think
that
it'll
probably
get
a
hearing
and
and
move
along
now.
C
B
I
I
can
add
to
that
I.
Think
one
of
the
interesting
nuances
to
this
is
how
Indianapolis,
Public
Schools
has
created
a
real
complication,
because
in
the
Indianapolis
Public
School
System
you
have
a
lot
of
charter
schools
and
in
lobbying
efforts
who
traditionally
you
thought
were
supportive
of
traditional
public
education.
They're,
not
lobbying
for
this,
for
this
measure
for
this
bill
for
this
language,
and
that
makes
it
really
difficult
for
for
a
caucus
of
10
in
the
Senate,
my
caucus,
the
Democrats,
who
stand
with
traditional
public
education.
B
The
majority
of
them
are
elected
in
Indianapolis,
and
you
know
we're
standing
strong,
but
I
can
see
that
it
gets
harder
and
harder.
So
I
don't
know.
Carrie
I
haven't
heard
whether
or
not
this
is
going
to
get
a
hearing.
I
would
imagine
it
would
if,
if
it
comes
over
from
the
house,
I
would
imagine
it
would,
but
it
hasn't
it.
O
Yeah,
it's
it's
wild
that
Bob
Enloe
is
really
backing
this
there's
a
lot
of
campaign
dollars
going
into
this.
This
marketing
push
that
you
see
regularly
on
TV
to
balance
the
playing
field
allegedly
thank.
A
You
so
much
thank
you,
Carrie
and
thank
you
Matt
and
Sherry
I'm,
going
to
advise
everybody
that
the
next
person
in
line
to
ask
a
question
is
Yvonne
Hansley,
and
then
we
have
Don
bird
and
Christina
Hitchcock
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
cut
off
any
questions
after
Christina,
so
that
Matt
and
Sherry
can
make
their
final
comments
and
so
Yvonne.
If
you
would
unmute
and
ask
your
question
and
I
believe
that
Shelly
will
be
the
first
to
answer
this.
One.
P
So
I
was
wondering
because
the
farm
bill
is
coming
back
in
play
this
year,
pertaining
to
your
environmental,
build,
that's
coming
or
that
you're
doing
as
well
we're
a
huge
agricultural
County.
How
is
that
also
playing
a
role
in
your
bill
as
well,
because
with
that
being
said,
Mike
Bruin
is
all
about
technology
right
now
and
about
budget
cutting.
So
how
is
that
going
to
make
a
play
for
you
with
trying
also
make
your
bill
heard.
B
Well,
I
hi
Yvonne.
Are
you
talking
about
the
climate
Solutions
bill?
Yeah?
Okay?
Well,
hopefully
we
will.
B
You
know
the
nice
thing
is
if,
if
there
is
room,
if
it
gets
a
hearing
and
if
there's
room
for
some
language
on
you
know
how,
if
the
task
force
should
address
some
agricultural
concerns,
we
can
add
that
I
know
I'm
talking
with
Senator
Glick
to
get
her
to
sign
on
to
the
bill.
She
cares
about
different
climate
issues.
We
share
a
passion
for
protecting
wetlands
and
trying
to
get
her
to
sign
on
the
bill
because
she
represents
a
a
district
in
Indiana.
B
That's
a
heavy
agriculture
District
up
in
Northern
Indiana,
as
well
as
Senator
lysing
getting
her.
She
really
cares
about.
You
know
large,
solar
and
wind
installations
when
it
comes
to
Renewables
making
sure
that
Farmland
is
protected.
Well,
we
should
have
that
part
of
the
task
force.
So
if
we
could
get
them
onto
the
bill
and
get
the
bill
heard
and
move
Indiana
towards
coming
up
with
a
plan,
a
vision
for
Indiana
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
step
forward.
C
I,
don't
have
much
to
add
to
that
other
than
just
that.
I
know
that
oftentimes
when
it
comes
to
getting
Farmers
involved
in
environmental
activities
and
things
if
you
can
provide
some
incentives,
as
have
been
done
in
the
federal
bills,
about
having
them
change
their
farming
techniques
to
limit
impacts
on
the
environment.
Oftentimes,
you
can
get
some
good
participation,
but
it
takes
providing
some
incentives.
C
A
Q
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
the
state
coordinator
for
braver
Angels,
a
National
Organization
trying
to
depolarize
the
country
trying
to
get
people
together
and
in
that
role,
I
talk
quite
a
bit
to
local
Republican
leaders
as
well
as
Democrats
and
I've
heard
from
at
least
one
I
think
two
Republican
leaders
about
the
non-participation
in
League
events
that
they
feel
that
lwv
is
a
left-leaning
organization
and
therefore
they
don't
want
to
participate,
which
is
you
know,
kind
of
a
self-fulfilling
prophecy.
Q
If
that's
the
case,
I'm
wondering
if
you
Shelly
and
Matt
feel
that
that's
a
really
a
big
part
of
it.
C
No
I
think
that's
an
excuse.
I
think
that
what
they
don't
like
is
the
fact
that
you
know
most
of
the
people
in
Bloomington,
if
not
Monroe
County
as
a
whole
have
different
perspective
on
things
and
push
them
and
ask
hard
questions,
and
you
don't
get
that
when
you're
in
the
rest
of
your
District,
where
people
are
aligned
with
your
your
own
views,
so
I
mean
you
can
either
go
to
kind
of
an
affirming
meeting
where
you
talk
about.
C
Let's
not
let
government
get
too
big
and
everybody's
like
protect
my
guns
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
you're
cheered
on
or
you
can
go
to
a
place
where
people
are
going
to
say,
I'm,
not
very
happy
with
your
vote.
Here's
my
perspective
and
I've
got
some
hard
questions
for
you,
I
think!
That's
really
just
the
reality
of
it.
C
B
And
that
is
true:
I
have
fond
memories
of
running
for
congress
and
it's
just
different
throughout
the
you
know
the
rest
The
More
Southern
parts
of
the
State.
When
you
get
down
there
you
you
encounter
different
questions,
but
it
goes
back
to
my
point
about.
It
also
helps
legislators
get
to
know
each
other
and
find
out
how
we
can
find
some
shared
common
ground.
B
I
was
reminded
that
this
is
possible.
This
week,
I
was
at
a
reception
and
Matt.
One
of
your
newly
elected
colleagues
in
the
house
came
up
to
me
and
he
said
I've
been
wanting
to
meet
you
because
I
filed
I'm
new
to
the
house
and
I
filed
your
legislation
in
the
house
and
I
was
like
you.
You
filed
my
legislation,
I'm
going
through
my
head,
trying
to
figure
out
what
did
I
file,
because
I
made
an
assumption
that
he
was
a
republican.
B
He
said
he
was
from
Frankfurt,
it's
representative,
Mike
genda
and
he
said
I
filed
your
period.
Tax
I
filed
the
repeal
a
feminine
hygiene
products
in
the
house
and
he's
a
Republican
and
he
said
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
for
Indiana
and
we
had
the
best
conversation
and
it
was
a
lesson
for
me:
I
told
him
he
made
my
whole
week.
We
are
finding
we're
going
to
find
a
path
forward.
Try
to
find
some
events
where
we
can
talk
about
this
further
and
based
on
that
conversation.
B
I
was
able
to
have
another
conversation
with
our
tax
and
a
fiscal
chair.
Travis
Holdman,
Senator
Holdman
he's
supportive
and
he
was
going
to
pass,
make
a
positive
recommendation
to
our
chair
of
appropriation,
Senator
Mishler,
so
these
conversations
are
really
important.
They
can
surprise
you
they're
difficult,
but
they're
important
and
I
I
stand
with
you.
I
think
we
have
to
find
other
ways
and
hopefully,
even
with
the
League
of
Women
Voters.
You
know
what
is
the
conflict
and
maybe
we
can
work
together
with
different
kinds
of
organizations
to
have
these
legislative
updates.
A
Well,
Shelly,
thank
you
for
that
answer
and
I
think
you've
given
Don
some
hope
and
the
rest
of
us
too.
So
and
thanks
for
the
question
Don
now
I'm
going
to
the
last
individual
that
I'm
going
to
call
on
and
that's
Christina
Hitchcock
Christina.
Would
you
unmute
and
ask
your
question.
R
Hi,
thank
you
for
going
over
a
little
bit
and
I
apologize.
If
this
question
gets,
I
mean
a
little.
The
topic
is
a
little
big,
but
I
was
just
curious.
I
have
a
student
who
graduated
from
MCCSC
last
May
and
then
I
have
a
current
junior
in
high
school
and
the
changes
that
have
been
required
for
graduation
just
between
the
two
of
them
is
kind
of
crazy
and
so
I'm
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
explain
a
little
bit
about
what
the
rationale
seems
to
be
for
the
effort
to
change
the
graduation
Pathways.
B
One
thing
that
I've
heard
loud
and
clear
is
Teachers,
feeling
that
their
profession
is
just
undermined,
left
and
right,
and
all
of
these
unfunded
mandates
and
changes
that
come
down
from
the
lead
from
the
legislative
process
aren't
always
informed
by
best
practice,
aren't
informed
by
good
education
policy,
but
rather
informed
by
lobbying
efforts
from
from
I
guess
people
who
want
to
see
something
different
in
the
school
system.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
yo-yo
act
up
and
down
changing
all
the
time
and
there
again
one
of
the
top
priorities.
B
B
I
I
know
that
educators
are
feeling
it
they're,
leaving
the
the
profession
which
is
not
helping
solve
the
problem
of
creating
some
certainty
for
parents
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
self-fulfilling
prophecy
number
one.
We
don't
fund
it
number
two
we're
constantly
changing
the
end
game
and
number
three.
B
We
don't
support
the
profession,
so
how
can
we
be
surprised
that
there's
a
teacher
shortage,
I
I,
hear
you
and
I
hope
that
we
can
have
this
conversation
in
the
education
committee
this
session,
but
we'll
definitely
be
hearing
something
from
the
house
side.
C
You
know
it
seems
like
they're,
always
flailing
around
to
go
back
and
fix
the
things
they
kind
of
messed
up
before,
and
then
they
keep
pushing
their
agenda
a
little
further,
because
it's
an
incremental
thing
and
in
the
curriculum
you
know
they
do
a
bunch
of
stuff
and
it
doesn't
really
work
or
they're
not
getting
the
result
they
want.
So
then
they
change
it
around
again
and
I
agree.
It's
constantly
changing
and
we
never.
It
seems
like
step
back,
allow
things
to
operate
for
a
while
and
then
really
evaluate
how
effective
you
know.
C
C
So
it's
really,
you
know
we'll
see
what
the
bill
looks
like
when
it
actually
starts
moving,
but
I
think
that
the
idea
is
that
high
school
is
going
to
be
a
training
ground
for
businesses
that
need
workers,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
heavier
emphasis.
I
think
on
Craft
trades
than
than
on.
You
know
more
of
a
college
track
kind
of
high
school
experience.
A
Thank
you.
Matt
we've
now
reached
the
end
of
our
questioning
sessions
and
want
to
give
each
of
our
Representatives
an
opportunity
to
do
closings
and
Matt
I'm
going
to
call
on
you
first.
At
this
juncture,.
C
Well,
we've
already
said
a
lot
today,
we're
a
little
bit
overtime,
so
I'm,
going
too
long.
I'll
just
say
that
you
know
this
issue
working
with
the
other
party.
You
know
when
you're,
when
you're
a
Democrat,
you
got
30
members
in
the
house.
You
got
to
find
21
other
people
if
you
want
to
make
something
happen
and
I've
I've
been
fortunate
every
now
and
again,
not
very
often,
but
to
get
amendments
adopted.
C
But
more
importantly,
I
found
that
if
you
work
behind
the
scenes-
and
you
can
talk
to
people
one-on-one-
you
can
make
things
happen,
you
can
affect
outcomes.
It's
not
easy
to
kind,
of
course,
the
other
side
into
changing
their
approach
to
things
in
a
more
public
way.
So
I
tend
to
kind
of
work
behind
the
scenes
and
I
and
I
found
some
Republican.
It
runs
the
gamut.
You
got
some
Republicans
who
just
look
at
Democrats
as
some
kind
of
horrible
people
are
trying
to
destroy
our
society.
C
They
don't
really
want
to
talk
to
you
and
you
got
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum.
You've
got
Republicans,
who
are
very
open
and
I've
teamed
up
with
a
number
of
Republicans
on
different
issues.
You
know,
others,
you
got
to
work
a
little
harder
to
bring
them
around,
but
that's
the
bottom
line.
So
what
does
that
mean
in
general?
C
I
think
what
it
basically
means
is
that
until
voters
make
different
decisions
about
who's
in
the
legislature,
it's
difficult
for
Democrats
to
Prevail
on
the
bigger
philosophical
questions,
whether
it's
budgeting
or
government
programs
child
care
a
lot
of
this
kind
of
stuff.
It's
just
you
know,
abortion
is
a
classic
example.
C
It's
just
you're
not
going
to
move
the
needle
on
that
with
the
majority,
but
there
are
lots
of
other
issues
that
that
are
not
like
these
super
ideological
fault
lines
where
we
can
get
some
some
cooperation
and
a
little
bit
of
progress,
although
maybe
not
as
fast
as
I
would
like
so
I'll
just
leave
it.
On
that
note,.
A
B
On
me
to
to
make
sure
that
I
stay
I
want
I
mean
I,
give
out
my
cell
phone,
because
what
is
helpful
is
if
maybe
a
phone
call
is
easier
for
you.
My
my
number
is.
B
812-327-4249
and
if
there's
something
that
you
care
about,
maybe
it's
it's
intimidating
to
get
on.
These
calls
to
ask
questions,
but
if
a
a
one-on-one
phone
conversation
or
sending
me
a
text
is
a
little
simpler.
Please
do
that.
I
am
going
to
continue
to
try
to
put
together
a
town
hall
with
all
of
our
electives
from
Monroe
County.
B
That
is
not
sponsored
by
anybody,
but
hopefully
we
can
get
folks
to
come
out
to
that,
and-
and
hopefully
we
can
have
it
in
person,
because
maybe
that
is
something
that
some
people
can
participate
in
in
terms
of
of
people
who
are
living
in
in
the
district
or
in
Monroe
County
may
be
a
little
easier
or
preferred,
but
I
thank
everyone
for
engaging
in
this
process.
Continue
looking
over
stay
engaged
and
I
look
forward
to
next
month's
legislative
update.
A
Thank
you.
Shelly
I,
too,
want
to
thank
both
of
you
for
making
yourselves
available
and
I'm
going
to
keep
my
fingers
crossed
that.
Perhaps
we
can
get
more
of
our
legislators
at
the
next
legislative
update,
which
will
be
Saturday,
February
11th,
and
we
will
be
sending
out
an
email
to
remind
everyone
of
that,
and
you
do
need
to
register
for
that.
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
I
thank
our
legislators
and
thank
all
of
you
who
have
joined
us
today
to
become
more
informed
about
what's
going
on
in
our
legislature.
I
want
to
thank
Community.
Access
television,
service,
Services
and
I
also
want
to
thank
our
sponsors,
the
league
in
Bloomington,
Monroe,
County
and
Brown
County,
and
the
Chambers
of
Commerce
for
greater
Bloomington
and
Brown
County
I,
look
forward
to
another
exciting
discussion
next
month
with
with
all
of
you,
and
hopefully
more
so.
A
Everyone
have
a
wonderful
rest
of
the
day.
Keep
following
week,
we're
furnished,
thankfully,
with
lots
of
resources
like
the
Indiana
Capital
Chronicle
that
we
can
help
keep
informed
as
the
legislature
is
in
session,
so
look
forward
to
seeing
everyone
again
on
February
11th.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
great
day.