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A
Well,
if
you
haven't
muted,
please
do
so
and
if
you
are
asking
questions
attendees,
please
unmute
yourself
or
get
ready
to
unmute
yourself
good
morning
and
welcome
to
the
legislative
update
here.
The
fourth
of
four
that
the
legal
Women
Voters
have
put
on
I
am
Christopher
mg
from
the
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce.
It
is
great
that
you're
spending
part
of
your
Saturday
morning
here
with
us
I
first
want
to
thank
our
sponsors
today.
A
All
right,
we
invited
all
of
the
representatives
from
Brown
County
Monroe
County,
so
this
included
Senate
districts,
41
44.
We
have
representative
districts,
46
60,
61
62,
so
we
did
invite
Senator
cook
representative,
Heaton,
representative
Mayfield
and
representative
Paul,
but
we
are
welcomed
by
Senator
Yoder
and
representative
Peters,
who
are
joining
us
next
slide.
A
We'll
have
to
remember
that
this
is
an
informative
session.
It
is
the
legislative
update
and
not
a
debate.
We
will
start
with
each
legislator
introducing
those
cells
and
giving
better
opening
remarks.
A
Participants
will
win
voted
to
ask
questions
and
you
will
ask
them
with
a
direct
message
to
the
question
moderator
stating
that
you
have
a
question
include
your
name
that
is
different
from
your
Zoom
identification,
we'll
be
taking
those
questions
in
order
they
are
received.
So
please
again,
unmute
yourself
when
you
are
called
upon
and
please
please
attendees
limit
yourself
to
one
minute
and
maybe
even
30
seconds
a
timer
will
be
visible
on
screen,
so
be
sure
to
be
paying
attention
to
that.
Keep
those
additional
questions
in
reserve.
A
So
if
we
do
have
time,
we
will
go
ahead
and
get
back
to
you
on
that.
We
are
lucky
enough
to
be
joined
by
Community,
Access
television,
the
cats
or
the
recording
that
session
so
be
sure
to
plug
it
to
friends
and
family
that
are
not
here
this
morning,
including
questions
we.
So
each
time
is
the
one
minute
timer
will
show
on
your
screen.
Posing
a
question
constitutes
permission
to
record
by
ads
next
slide.
A
Legislators
will
have
two
minutes
to
answer
each
question:
you'll
see
the
timer
on
the
screen
as
well
as
soon
as
these
speakers
starts,
I'll
rotate,
which
legislator
answers
the
question.
First,
you
can
stop
sharing
green
now
and
we
really
great
to
be
here
and
everybody.
Let's
start
with
some
opening
remarks.
We
appreciate
everybody's
time
today,
but,
let's
start
with
representative
Pierce
to
give
an
update
on
what
is
going
on
from
the
house
side.
B
B
So
Monday
in
the
house
is
the
deadline
for
us
to
finish
consideration
of
any
Senate
bills
that
have
come
out
of
committee,
so
Monday's
kind
of
our
last
day
for
third
reading
of
Senate
bills,
and
then
we
will
move
into
the
conference
committee
section
of
the
legislature.
So
just
to
remind
you,
if
you
have
a
bill,
passes
one
house
and
then
it
gets
amended
in
the
second
house.
B
You
can't
send
two
different
versions
of
the
bill
to
the
governor,
so
each
house
has
to
form
a
conference
committee
which
starts
out
as
one
member
of
each
caucus,
so
two
Republicans,
two
Democrats
and
they're
supposed
to
sit
down
and
figure
out
if
they
can
compromise
on
language.
That
would
read
the
same
for
vote,
both
versions
of
the
bill
and
if
they're
able
to
sign
a
conference
committee
report,
then
it
has
to
come
back
before
both
houses
and
those
that
conference
committee
report
has
to
be
approved.
B
If
it
is
approved
by
oath
houses,
then
that
new
version
of
the
bill
goes
off
to
the
governor
for
his
consideration
now
the
interesting
thing
is-
and
this
often
happens
with
more
partisan
bills.
Controversial
bills
is
the
speaker
of
the
house
and
the
president
of
pro
tem
of
the
Senate
both
have
the
power
to
remove
conferees,
who
refuse
to
sign
a
committee
report.
So
if
you
have
a
Democrat,
a
minority
member
on
a
committee
who
just
says
I,
don't
think
this
is
good
policy
I'm
not
going
to
sign
this
conference
committee
report.
B
What
they
essentially
do
is
remove
the
Democrat,
replace
the
Democrat
with
the
Republican
who's
willing
to
sign,
and
then
the
report
can
move
on
through
the
process
and
and
get
a
vote
in
both
houses.
And
so
you
can
always
tell
the
kind
of
controversial
more
partisan
bills
by
just
looking
at
the
signatures
on
the
conference
committee
reports,
if
they're
all
from
the
Republican
party,
you
know
that
was
a
bill
in
which
the
Democrats
really
could
not
agree
on
the
the
policy
goals
or
what
was
in
the
in
the
bill.
B
B
Now
under
the
statutes
under
the
law,
we
could
actually
go
to
Saturday,
April,
29th
and
the
question
will
be:
will
the
Republicans
in
the
house
and
the
Republicans
in
the
Senate
be
able
to
agree
on
key
bills
like
the
budget
by
April
27th,
or
will
they
get
into
a
strenuous
enough
argument
that
they
can't
get
their
work
done
by
the
27th
and
things
might
spill
over
to
that
Friday
or
that
Saturday?
B
If,
if
the
job
can't
get
done
by
the
29th
of
April,
then
you
would
have
to
have
a
special
session,
which
would
be
pretty
unusual
for
a
party
to
be
in
control
of
everything
and
basically
not
be
able
to
agree
on
what
they
want
to
do
so.
I
think
it's
probably
unlikely,
but
I
just
I'm
hear
a
lot
of
discussion,
particularly
on
the
budget,
about
differences
between
the
house
and
the
Senate
and
how
those
might
pan
out
and
I
think
one
area
in
the
budget.
B
That's
particularly
I'm,
going
to
be
contentious
among
House,
Republicans
and
Senate.
Republicans
is
what
to
do
about
private
school
vouchers.
So
the
House
Republicans
want
to
not
only
increase
significantly
the
amount
of
money
that
would
go
into
private
school
vouchers,
which
means
that
would
come
away
from
traditional
public
schools
and
get
funded
for
private
schools.
So
they
have
the
issue
of
what
how
much
money
should
you
put
into
that
and
then?
B
Secondly,
what
should
be
the
the
requirements
for
someone
to
qualify
for
a
voucher
and
what
the
House
Republicans
want
to
do
is
eliminate
all
of
what
they
call
the
pathways.
So
this
has
been
this
whole
voucher
thing
has
been
a
very
incremental
expanded,
expanded
expanded
every
year,
and
so
it
started
out
as
the
idea
of
okay.
If
we
have
a
student
who's
in
a
school,
that's
failing,
it's
substandard,
let's
level,
the
playing
field.
Let
this
low-income
person
have
a
voucher
which
will
allow
them
them
to
choose
a
private
school.
B
Just
like
the
wealthy
people
can
do.
It
was
framed
in
the
Civil
Rights
issue,
but
what
it
really
was
was
a
way
to
get
a
foot
in
the
door,
get
the
programming
stat
established
by
finding
a
sympathetic,
situency,
low-income
people
and
failing
schools,
and
then
over
the
years
they've
been
expanding
it
and
spending
and
spending
it
and
now
I
think
you
can
have
a
family
up
to
150
000
of
income
a
year
still
qualify
and
the
House
Republicans
really
want
to
take
most
of
the
lid
off.
Of
that.
B
The
other
thing
was
that
when
the
program
got
started
under
Mitch,
Daniels
I
mean
the
the
argument
was
well
we're
going
to
require
everyone
to
try
the
traditional
Public
Schools.
The
vouchers
are
only
for
people
who
are
not
getting
served
by
the
public
schools
for
whatever
reason
it's
not
working
for
them,
we'll
give
them
this
voucher,
so
they
can
go
someplace
else.
B
Well,
the
House
Republicans
really
want
to
just
reshape
the
program
to
like
hey
if
you
just
like
private
schools
better,
and
you
want
to
send
your
kids
there-
we're
essentially
going
to
give
you
the
state's
tuition
money
to
do
that.
So
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
battle
comes
out.
The
mental
health
issue
of
how
do
we
fund
mental
health.
B
The
interesting
thing
is:
there's
now
suddenly
discussion
about
raising
the
cigarette
tax
to
fund
these
programs
and
in
fact
we
had
a
house
Republican
fairly
conservative
house
Republican
introduced
an
amendment
to
do
that
on
the
floor,
and
then
he
withdrew
the
amendment
before
a
vote
and
I
think
that
what
the
Senate
did
is
they
didn't
really
address
the
funding,
and
so
the
question
is:
will
mental
health
be
funded
with
a
cigarette
tax
increase?
Will?
B
Instead,
they
go
with
an
increase
on
people's
phone
bills
to
fund
the
988
mental
health
line
and
kind
of
fund
it
through
there
or
will
be
some
combination
of
both
but
I'm.
Picking
up
kind
of
these
strange
Vibes
that
maybe
after
all
these
years,
perhaps
the
Republicans
are
willing
to
increase
the
cigarette
tax.
We'll
just
have
to
see
whether
that
pans
out.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
conference
committee
kind
of
thing,
the
the
one
thing
that
will
really
impact
the
budget
is
at
the
very
end
of
this
month.
There
is
a
revenue
forecast.
B
So
there's
this
nonpartisan
group
of
economists
that
you
know
get
out
their
crystal
ball
and
they
look
at
all
the
economic
data
and
they
make
their
best
estimate
as
to
what
the
revenues
are
going
to
be
for
the
next
two
years,
and
that
has
a
really
huge
impact
on
the
budget,
because
if
they
come
back
and
say,
aha
banking
crisis
recession
on
the
horizon,
revenues
are
going
to
go
down.
Then.
What
tends
to
happen?
Is
the
budget
really
tightens
down
and
a
lot
of
programs?
B
Don't
get
funded
or
get
left
out
for
increases
if
the
revenue
forecast
comes
back
and
they
see
you
know
it's
looking
pretty
good,
despite
some
potential
problems
out
there,
the
economy
has
really
going
pretty
well.
People
are
employed,
so
we're
going
to
actually
have
some
reasonable
increases
in
Revenue
over
the
next
two
years.
Then
at
that
point
there
is
a
greater
opportunity
to
increase
funding
for
programs
or
get
new
programs.
B
You
know
kind
of
up
and
running
so
we'll
have
to
see
what
that
revenue
forecast
ends
up
being
that's
usually
right
within
the
last.
You
know
couple
days
of
the
month
that
comes
in
and
that
impacts
the
conference
committee
report.
On
that,
let's
see
you
know
really
this.
There
are
a
lot
of
bills
that
you
know
are
moving
around
and
they're
influx
now.
So
this
is
the.
B
This
is
the
kind
of
time
of
the
session
where
you
just
kind
of
have
to
wait
and
see
how
things
settle
out,
whether
it's
all
these
Health
Care
bills,
then
moving
through
trying
to
get
at
the
issue
of
high
Hospital
costs
and
how
the
Health
Care
Systems
operated.
B
It
looks
like
those
bills
are
kind
of
getting
watered
down,
but
we
don't
know
how
it'll
actually
settle
out
same
thing
with
some
of
the
utility
bills
moving
through
the
system
and
I
guess.
The
last
thing
that
I'll
finish
up
with
here
in
about
the
minute
and
a
half
or
so
that
I
have
left
is
and
I'm
sure
Shelley
might
want
to
address.
This,
too,
is
the
food
and
beverage
tax
for
our
county
has
gotten
ensnared,
I
think
in
a
bigger
issue.
B
We've
got
a
couple
members
that
don't
like
food
and
beverage
taxes
over
in
the
Senate
and
they
are
trying
to
Sunset
them
or
have
tried
in
the
past,
and
so
they
love
to
find
anything.
They
can
point
to
to
say,
see.
Here's
a
dysfunctional
food
and
beverage
tax
and
I
think
one
particular
individual
who
doesn't
like
his
own
counties.
B
Food
and
beverage
tax
has
decided
to
try
to
bring
Monroe
County
into
the
conversation
as
an
example
of
somehow
food
and
beverage
tax
is
not
functioning
or
not
being
used,
properly
or
somehow
being
abused,
and
so
there's
a
provision
in
a
bill.
B
Now
a
house
bill
that
was
put
in
the
Senate
that
would
create
additional
restrictions
and
kind
of
time
limits
on
when
the
city
and
county
can
move
ahead
on
a
convention
center
with
their
food
and
beverage
tax,
and
so
I
think
that
right
now,
that's
not
helpful,
because
I'm
confident
that
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
new
people
becoming
in
the
city
government
at
the
first
of
the
year
here
and
I
think
that's
a
great
opportunity
to
kind
of
hit
the
reset
button
and
get
things
moving
and
so
I
and
Senator
Yoder
are
trying
to
convince
the
powers
to
be
that.
B
Like
just
leave
us
alone,
we
think
it's
going
to
finally
work
itself
out
we're
as
frustrated
as
you
are
that
it's
been
taking
so
long
to
get
this
thing
going.
But
we
think
that
you
know
better
days
are
ahead,
so
we'll
have
to
see
what
might
come
out
of
that
before
the
session
ends.
A
Well,
thank
you,
representative
Pierce.
Next
up
we
have
good
morning
Senator,
Yoder
I
know
you've
been
working
trying
to
get
a
minute
on
that
house,
bill
14.99,
that
is
at
the
Senate,
but
feel
free
to
talk
about
anything
you're
on
your
extended
update.
C
C
Measured
effective
committed
to
our
district
representing
Us
in
the
house,
so
representative,
Pierce
Matt.
Thank
you
I!
Am
it's
just
wonderful
to
call
you
a
colleague
and
to
know
that
I
have
such
an
incredible
partner
over
in
the
house.
So
thank
you.
It's
great
to
be
here
and
I.
Think
I
wasn't
going
to
start
with
this
discussion
about
the
amendment
that
was
added
to
House
Bill
1499.
That
has
to
do
specifically
with
the
Monroe
County
food
and
beverage
tax,
but
I'll
start
there.
C
C
Senator
Goldman.
It
was
at
it
was
his
Amendment
and
he
added
it
to
this
Tax
Matters
bill
and
the
the
as
Senator
or
representative
Pierce
very
effectively
described
it.
It
puts
some
as
what
they're
thinking
it
puts
some
very
serious
guard
rails
and
threatens
the
success
and
ability
for
our
local
elected
leaders
to
do
what
we've
elected
them
to
do.
Number
one
lead
number
two
listen
to
constituents
and
effectively
to
build
this
to
ex,
to
improve
and
expand
our
Convention
Center,
but
actually
what
that
Amendment
does.
C
It
was
introduced,
and
we,
let
me
just
say
on
Wednesday
night
when
that
Amendment
dropped
I
immediately
reached
out
to
the
folks
that
I
know
that
Lobby
for
our
County
for
our
city,
let
our
electeds
know
this
was
dropped.
Nobody
knew
it
was
coming.
I
just
wanted
to.
You
know,
bring
your
attention
to
it
at
the
exact
same
time
that
this
bill
is
going
to
be
heard.
I
actually
have
a
bill,
that's
being
heard
in
the
house.
This
expansion
of
access
for
contraceptives
for
long-acting,
reversible
contraceptives
is
being
heard
in
the
house.
C
C
She
showed
up
along
with
their
their
government
Affairs
individual
Rick,
Cochran
Matt
Norris
showed
up
who
helps
represent
the
city
in
the
legislature
as
a
lobbyist,
and
we
sort
of
and
and
representative
Pierce
showed
up
I
had
my
house,
my
Senate
Bill
heard
in
the
house
was
able
to
get
over
there
we
brought
her.
You
know
we
tried
to
strategize
on
how
we
were
going
to
defeat
this
amendment.
It
got
it
got
put
into
the
bill
and
we
were
able
to
testify
about
this
and
learn
a
little
bit
more
about.
C
Where
is
this
coming
from
I
will
just
say
this
I
was
told
it
was
a
joke,
but
it's
not
actually
very
funny.
It's
not
funny
at
all.
But
what
I
didn't
appreciate
is
the
chair,
Senator
Holdman,
said
to
commissioner
giffins.
It
sounds
like
you
need
a
dad
figure
to
come
down
and
apply
some
discipline
and
to
an
elected
official
who
is
the
we
in
Monroe
County
we're
the
only
County
that
has
all
of
our
Commissioners
our
women.
C
It
was
so
insulting
and
I
have
I
brought
this
to
the
attention
of
Senator
Holdman,
how
insulting
it
was
and
how
he
should
issue
an
apology.
He
said
he
was
joking
and
it
just
it
was
very
disrespectful,
but
moving
on
this
amendment
that
they
think
that
they're
going
to
bring
some
discipline
to
Monroe
County
I
want
to
give
them
a
heads
up,
they're,
actually
in
several
ways,
removing
some
guard
rails
number
one.
This
amendment
is
redefining
how
we
can
spend
the
money
and
they're
taking
out
Economic,
Development
and
actually
saying
quality
of
life
purposes.
C
C
Well,
this
amendment
actually
does
keep
the
advisory
Council
intact,
which
we
have
and
we've
named
it
for
our
County,
the
food
and
beverage
tax
advisory
Council.
You
might
hear
it
called
The
Fab
Tech,
because
it's
just
an
acronym,
we
love
acronyms,
so
this
Fab
Tech.
This
amendment
actually
removes
the
requirement
that
the
Fab
Tech
would
have
to
approve
expenditure
expenditures,
so
in
essence,
they've
actually
removed
some
of
the
guard
rails.
That
were
there
that
we
want
there
to
ensure
that
there's
some
oversight.
C
We
probably
have
more
transparency,
more
accountability
in
Monroe
County
and
our
food
and
beverage
tax
than
other
Counties
have
or
are
the
local
municipalities
have
with
their
food
and
beverage
tax.
Because
of
how
we
report
how
those
reports
are
made
very
visible
on
our
County
website,
the
meeting
agendas
agenda
of
the
Fab
Tech,
the
the
expenditure
process.
C
So
in
essence,
what
this
amendment
was
trying
to
do
is
to
you
know
just
I
guess,
as
I
heard
a
stick
to
sort
of
punish,
Monroe
County,
it's
actually
removing
some
desired
guardrails
that
are
in
place,
so
I
have
been
working
with
Senator
Holdman
on
this,
who
said
that
he's
given
the
responsibility
to
Senator
Gaskell,
so
I've
been
working,
he
said.
C
Please
work
with
Senator
Gaskell
on
this,
so
I've
been
working
with
Senator
Gaskell
and
the
only
common
ground
that
we
can
find
in
this
is
he's
giving
us
more
time
to
begin
this
project
that
we
set
out
to
do,
and
that
is
to
expand
the
convention
center
and
yet,
as
they
have
how
they've
amended
this
bill,
it
can
just
be
quality
of
life.
So
I'm
not
sure
what
they're
trying
to
achieve
here
but
I've.
C
Who
knows
what
the
future
could
be,
but
if
our,
if
our
spending
is
not
to
the
you
know,
the
dollar
amount
to
how
we
committed
to
spending
that
with
a
plan
that
was
submitted
months
beforehand.
What
will
happen?
It
basically
says
our
food
and
beverage
tax
is
repealed
at
that
moment.
So
there's
very
lack
of
clarity
with
how
long
does
this
report
have
to
be?
How
specific
does
this
report
have
to
be?
C
What
does
it
look
like
that
the
spending
doesn't
completely
line
up
with
that
plan,
and
so
that
is
of
concern
and
I
said:
would
you
could
we
do
it
for
one
year
we'll
get
back
on
track,
and
then
we
Sunset
that
we
don't
have
to
do
this
as
planned
report.
That
is
only
going
to
be
placed
on
Monroe
County
and
he
said
well
I'm
not
going
to
write
that
into
the
I'm
not
going
to
write
that
into
this
second
reading
Amendment.
C
But
if
you
want
to
come
back
in
Future
years
and
sunset
that
I
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate
and
he
said,
but
I
won't
carry
that
legislation,
because
that
would
be
inappropriate
for
somebody
other
than
from
Monroe
County
to
carry
legislation.
That
applies
to
your
district
and
I
said
well,
hello.
We
just
did
that
with
this
entire
Amendment
and
that
did
not
come
for
me
and
he
was
quiet,
and
that
was
the
end
of
that.
So
it's
very
frustrating
and
contradictory
and
hypocritical.
But
here
we
are
and
I'm
really
fighting
to
protect.
C
Really
local
governance
is
really
what
it
comes
down
to.
So
that's
14.99.
We
also
have
a
bill
1420,
which
is
a
utilities
bill
that
gives
more
it's
a
right
of
first
refusal
for
our
current
investor-owned
utilities
and
we're
fighting
that
one
and
that's
another
controversial
that
is
remaining
and
then
the
budget.
We
do
have
a
few
amendments
coming
up
for
that
a
month
for
that
budget,
but
we
do
see
from
the
Senate
side
some
of
that
expand
the
ex
expansion,
the
expansion
of
choice
and
vouchers
was
taken
out.
C
A
Have
you
we
can
we
give
sooner
you
get
another
two
minutes
just
because
I
I
think
we've
kind
of
pushed
the
Putin
beverage
tax
for
about
nine
and
a
half
minutes,
which
is
I,
think
kind
of
a
question
for
mine.
So
if
you
have
another
a
little
bit
of
an
update,
I
think
that
would
benefit
I.
Think
the
attendees
today.
C
Well,
I'll
give
you
a,
let
me
say
a
little
bit
more
about
1420,
because
it's
gotten
a
a
great
deal
of
I
guess
attention
and
I
would
just
say
my
colleague.
Well
we've
been
talking
about
1420
in
terms
of
it's
not
really
helping
consumers
at
all.
It
really
is
the
rich
fighting
against
the
rich
at
the
end
of
the
day,
who's
going
to
get
these
contracts.
Is
it
going
to
be
transmission
companies,
or
is
it
going
to
be
our
current
investor
owned
utilities
and
it
is
going
to
have
a
hard
time
getting.
C
It
was
going
to
have
a
hard
time
getting
out
of
committee,
but
it's
going
to
have
a
hard
time
getting
out
of
the
Senate,
because
it
really
goes
against
our
free
enterprise
and
gives
the
first
writer
for
your
few
of
refusal
for
new
projects.
It's
going
to
give
them
to
the
utility
company
that
has
the
footprint
an
investor-owned
utility
company.
C
That
has
a
footprint
where
that
project
is
going
to
go,
and
it's
just
interesting
to
see
these
players
that
are
usually
together
on
opposite
sides
of
this
bill,
but
they
knew
they
were
going
to
have
a
hard
time.
So
what
they
have
in
essence
done
is
they
have
our
investor
owned
utilities
have
asked
for
our
labor
unions,
electricians
operators,
Steel
Workers,
Building
Trades,
to
support
this
bill
because
our
investor-owned
utilities,
usually
I
mean
they
have
historically
relied
upon
the
incredible
labor
and
standards
of
our
organized
labor.
C
That
will
definitely
come
with
these
new
projects.
So
we're
going
to
see
where
that
goes,
because
if,
because
right
now,
as
the
bill
stands,
it's
nobody
is
really
watching
out
for
hard-working
Hoosiers
or
the
ratepayer.
But
I
think
this
amendment
would
say.
Yeah
1420
is
going
to
watch
out
for
hard-working
folks
and
we're
going
to
see
where
it
goes.
But
thank
you
for
giving
me
a
little
bit
more
time
to
talk
about
a
bill.
That's
some
on
some
people's
radar,
but
not
on
many.
A
What
the
heck
thank
you
Senator,
Yoder,
we're
going
to
open
it
up
for
questions,
a
reminder
to
the
attendees.
Please
unmute
yourself
and
limit
your
question
to
one
minute:
first
up:
Jim
Allison
good
morning:
Jim!
If
you
want
to
ask
a
question:
let's
have
US
Representative
Pierce
will
start
the
answer
afterwards.
D
Good
morning
in
Maine,
Alaska
and
Nevada,
voters
are
so
unhappy
with
their
unresponsive
legislatures
that
they
voted
in
a
referenda
for
major
election
reform
and
that
reform
would
replace
their
partisan
primaries
with
open
primaries
where
anyone
can
run
with
or
without
the
sponsorship
of
any
political
party,
and
then
the
top
five
priority.
Primary
winners
go
on
to
the
fall
election
with
their
names
on
a
ranked
Choice
ballot
to
determine
the
peoples.
The
people's
majority
choice
in
an
instant
runoff
election
now
may
and
Alaska
have
already
conducted
Statewide
elections.
D
B
Well,
Jim,
yes,
I!
Would
you
know
if
you're
stuck
with
Gerry
commandered
Maps,
then
you
have
to
find
another
way
to
get
around
the
system
really
undermining
democracy
and
so
you're
right?
These
states
have
come
up
with
a
system
that
kind
of
prize
away
the
lock
that
political
parties
might
have
on
the
the
district.
Drawing
the
key
thing,
though,
there
is
those
redundant
states
with
referendums,
citizen
referendums,
they
could
go
around
the
legislature,
Senator
Stoops
when
he
was
in
the
Senate.
B
He
introduced
ranked
Choice
voting
and
some
of
these
other
reforms
several
times
and
he
couldn't
get
them
to
move
and
just
the
reality
of
it
is
the
Republican
super
majorities
are
benefiting
from
this
system
and
they
are
not
going
to
support
anything
that
undermines
the
Groupon
power
that
they
have
right
now
and
so
I
think
you
know.
Yes,
bills
could
be
introduced.
You
know
you
could
talk
about
them,
but
I,
don't
think,
there's
much
of
a
chance
that
they're
going
to
get
seriously
considered.
B
You
know
your
only
hope
is
I
mean
you
look
at
every
issue.
You
know
issue
about
whether
marijuana
should
be
legalized
right.
You
have
to
get
up
for
Indiana,
you
have
to
get
up
to
like
25
or
30
states
that
have
already
done
it
and
then
they'll
begin
to
start
to
consider
it,
and
then
we're
always
the
last
in
line
so
I
think
that
the
the
odds
of
getting
a
bill
like
that
passed,
as
was
shown
when
Senator
Stoops
was
serving
in
the
legislature,
is
just
very
limited.
C
Yes,
I
will
add
Jim.
Thank
you
for
your
question
and
let's
work
together
before
we
file
our
bills.
Next
December
November
and
get
some
language
I
have
found.
If
we
could,
just
you
know,
maybe
take
one
issue.
These
larger
bills
for
Democrats
are
incredibly
hard
to
get
past.
If,
but,
if
it's
kind
of
a
it
Stepping
Stones
to
get
us
there,
I
think
we
can
have
some.
You
know
greater
progress,
but
let's
work
together
and
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
something
but
representative
Pierce
is
correct.
C
A
Great
thank
you
Senator.
Next
up
for
Bloomington
marriage,
Tommy
Allison,
a
question
for
the
we'll
start
with
secure
Yoda.
C
Thank
you,
Tommy
I
might
have
to
ask
Matt
where
that
bill
is
in
the
house
when
it
got
amended,
I'm,
not
aware
of
where
what
stage.
Well,
apparently,
it
must
be
on
Final
on
third
reading.
Is
it
still
there.
B
Yeah
I
think
that
what
happened
with
that
bill
is
it's
so
414,
which
was
originally
about
sewage
tanks,
I
just
kind
of
brought
it
up
in
the
computer,
so
it
actually
has
passed
a
house
and
it's
back
over
in
the
Senate,
with
amendments
and
they've
filed
a
motion
to
dissent.
So
it's
going
to
go
to
conference
committee.
My
understanding
is
the
powers
to
be
have
ruled
that
the
wetlands
Amendment
on
that
bill
is
non-germaine,
meaning
not
sufficiently
related
to
the
subject
matter,
the
underlying
Bill
and
therefore
it
has
to
come
out.
B
This
is
kind
of
a
funny
thing,
because
the
house
doesn't
do
this,
but
the
Senate
their
leadership.
They
always
look
at
bills
and
if
they
have
Provisions
that
they
don't
like,
they
just
declare
them
non-germain
and
see
you
have
to
go
to
conference
and
take
it
out.
So
you
know
there'll
be
an
argument
about
that
in
the
conference
committee
coming
up,
but
I'm
encouraged
that
the
Senate
seems
to
be
saying
we
don't
want
to
mess
with
that,
and
part
of
the
problem
is
the
Optics
are
really
horrible.
B
B
C
Can
I
can
I
add,
can
I
add
one
comment
to
that.
Just
to
give
Tommy
a
heads
up,
I
would
watch
the
budget
like
a
like
a
hawk,
because
if
they
have
some
deal
that
they
need
to
make,
you
know
if
it
was
a
from
the
builders.
Everything
is
germane
in
the
budget,
so
they
could
take
that
language
and
put
it
in
the
budget
and
that
budget
you
know
it's
hundreds
of
pages,
and
so
they
know
that
it's
impossible
to
keep
track
of
things
in
that
budget.
C
B
Yeah
and
I
should
throw
in
another
comment
too,
which
goes
for
like
any
topic
is
you
know
once
you've
gotten
something
passed
through
one
house
or
the
other.
You
can
kind
of
shop
around
for
another
home
for
it,
so
it
might
come
out
of
4
14.
But,
as
Shelley
said,
you
know
the
stuff
that
leadership
really
wants
often
ends
up
in
the
budget
because
they
know
the
budget
has
to
pass
or
you
have
a
special
session.
B
The
majority
parties
normally
vote
for
their
budget,
so
once
you
get
something
stuck
in
there,
there's
no
way
to
fight
it.
So
that's
kind
of
like
the
the
clearest
path
where
somebody
gets
something
done,
but
they
can
also
find
some
other
bill.
You
know
more
related
to
the
environment
or
something
and
try
to
try
to
put
it
in
there.
So
the
question
is:
will
the
house
want
to
fight
for
that
thing
for
its
home
builders
special
interest
hard
enough?
That
they'll
find
another
place
to
put
it
and
perhaps
in
the
budget?
Thank.
A
All
right,
well,
I
got
a
couple
texts
here:
I
have
one
I
myself
I
wanted
to
ask
which
is
I
know
the
governor's.
One
of
his
priorities
was
kind
of
continuing
expanding
the
ready
grants,
Regional
economic
initiative.
Where
are
we
at
there
I've
heard
some
things
that
might
it
might
change
a
little
bit
with
the
iedc
taking
it
over?
Can
any
and
I'll
just
leave
this
up?
Whoever
wants
to
go
first
or
on
this
one
is:
can
you
give
me
an
update
on
that.
C
Yeah
Chris,
thank
you.
We
got
our
I
I
still
have
I'm
trying
to
absorb
where
we
are
with
the
budget
on
Thursday,
so
the
ready
grants
in
the
house
I
think
they
had
some
real
problems
getting
through,
but
it
was
put
back
in
and
this
piece
of
tying
it
with
the
iedc
I
I
need
to
I'll
have
to
find
out
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
just
know
that
the
ready
grants
were
are
in
the
Senate
version
of
the
budget,
but
I'm
not
sure
on.
B
Yeah
I
haven't
really
heard
anything
more
on
that
so
I'm
afraid
I
can't
be
too
enlightening.
You
know
again,
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
usually
gets
hashed
out
in
a
conference
committee.
B
I
feel
like
the
iedc
has
come
like
to
become
this
giant
black
hole
state
government
so,
like
all
these
programs,
just
keep
getting
like
sucked
into
them,
and,
and
so
the
legislature
seems
polite
to
just
kind
of
say,
here's
a
big
pile
of
money.
Iedc,
you
figure
it
out
so
I,
don't
know!
If
that's
what
might
be
driving
some
of
this
or
not,
but
we'll
just
have
to
wait
and
kind
of
see
how
things
emerge
from
the
conference
committees.
C
I
want
to
add
one
little
caveat
to
that:
the
budget
in
the
Senate
version
of
the
budget.
The
iedc
is
seeing
a
substantial
increase
for
under
sort
of
the
umbrella
of
closing
deals
and
I.
Guess
where
I'm
wondering
what
what
does
that
entail?
C
Apparently
that
budget
is
going
to
have
to
be
increased
quite
a
bit,
because
you
know,
if
they're
trying
to
be
a
state
that
works
it's
going
to
take
Deep
Pockets
to
convince
companies
and
leader
Business
Leaders
to
expand
or
re
or
Build
and
Grow
relocate
to
Indiana.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
wondering
why
there
was
such
an
a
large
bump
in
that
funding.
For
you
know,
closing
deals
with
the
iedc.
A
Thank
you
Senator
next
question:
what
is
the
intent
or
motivation
behind
House
Bill
1334
limiting
access
to
male
ballots,
representative
Pierce?
Do
you
want
to
start.
B
Yeah,
it's
pretty
simple.
You
know.
Ever
since
Trump
decided
that
you
know
mail
ballots,
equal
voter
fraud,
the
Republicans
have
all
fallen
into
line
at
every
level
government
and
they
really
don't
like
voting
by
mail,
particularly
they're,
not
very
excited
about
early
voting
either,
but
they
really
just
think
that
people
voting
by
mail,
I
guess
are
just
a
bunch
of
fraudsters.
B
The
argument
they're
making
is
oh,
we
have
to
make
you
know
we
have
to
be
more
certain
that
the
people
casting
these
votes
by
mail
are
actually
the
people
they
claim
they
are
and
we're
going
to
do
that
by
having
them
provide
some
kind
of
number
or
something
that
will
validate
who
they
are
and
so
they're.
Adding
into
this
bill
that
you
have
to,
you
know,
provide
a
social
security
number
a
driver's
license,
the
last
four
or
last
four
digit
social
security,
number
I.
B
Think
a
driver's
license
number
or
some
permutation
of
that,
and
then
your
voter
registration
number,
if
you
were
happening
to
know
it
and
so
they're
putting
that
into
place.
The
problem
is
that
if
you
registered
a
long
time
ago,
a
lot
of
that
data
is
not
going
to
be.
You
know
on
file,
and
so
what
that
means
is,
if
you
request
an
absentee
ballot,
you
don't
get
the
number
on
there
in
a
way
that
satisfies
the
law.
Then
the
clerk's
office
has
to
turn
around
and
try
to
contact
you
and
say
hey.
B
We
can't
send
you
this
ballot,
because
you
haven't
put
the
right
number
on
here
and
you
got
to
kind
of
go
back
and
forth
to
get
that
straightened
out.
Well,
if
someone
has
applied
for
their
ballot
late
in
the
process,
you
may
not
get
through
all
that
in
the
end.
So
what
they're
going
to
end
up
doing
is
once
again
tripping
people
up
causing
some
people
not
to
be
able
to
vote
to
address
an
issue
that
does
not
exist.
A
Thank
you,
representative
Pierce.
You
have
anything
to
add
Senator
on
that.
C
I
just
wish
that
Senator
cook
was
here
because
I
would
say
that
it
was
his
bill.
He
carried
that
bill
in
the
Senate
and
the
Democrat
Caucus
tried
very,
very
hard
to
amend
that
bill
and,
basically
to
win.
You
know
to
to
achieve
the
success
of
that
bill.
Senator
cook
argued
and
made
sure
to
bring
forth
every
single
Democrat,
whoever
broke
any
kind
of
election
law.
He
was
ready
and
he
went
down
Democrat.
This
is
what
happened
Democrat.
This
is
what
happened
Democrat.
C
This
is
what
happened,
but
conveniently
did
not
bring
up
the
fact
that
our
current
Secretary
of
State
actually
wrote
voted
illegally,
but
it
was
debated
heavily
in
the
Senate
and
we
were
unsuccessful,
but
Matt
explained
sort
of
the
nature
of
the
bill
and
how
it
really
is
going
to
create
even
more
difficulties
to
for
absentee
voting.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
were
where
we
are
with
1334.
A
But
thank
you
Senator.
Just
a
reminder
to
the
attendees
here
today.
Just
type
a
direct
message
to
the
question:
moderators
say:
I
have
a
question
and
you
will
be
called
upon
to
unmute
I
think
we
have
a
question
from
Kathy
Roundtree
Kathy
good
morning.
F
Hi
good
morning,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
for
representative
Pierce.
At
one
point,
I
understand
you
were
looking
at
introducing
a
bill
to
moderate
health
care
costs
in
Indiana,
based
on
a
Model
that
had
been
tried
in
Maryland
and
I.
Just
wonder
what
happened
with
that
I
apologize
I,
don't
recall
the
exact
number
for
the
bill,
foreign.
B
Yeah,
so
the
idea
is
that
you
know,
as
we
began
to
talk
about
our
Hospital
health
care,
costs
are
really
high
in
Indiana
compared
to
other
states
and,
and
so
the
Republicans
pushed
by
some
business
interests
are
really
trying
to
decide
what
they
could
do
to
address
that
issue
and
and
so
I
as
I
was
kind
of
learning
about
it.
A
little
bit
I
learned
that
Maryland's,
the
only
state
in
the
nation
that
has
this
kind
of
global
budgeting
system,
and
it's
really
brought
a
lot
of
benefits
to
it.
B
It's
evolved
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
it's
had
buy-in
from
the
hospital
systems
and
the
providers
there
and
I
have
to
admit
that
it's
a
lot
more
complicated
than
I
can
explain,
or
even
that
I
fully
understand.
But
what
I've
been
pushing
is,
let's
look
at
a
longer
term
solution,
rather
than
these
kind
of
Band-Aid
things
we
tend
to
do
and
and
so
that
issue
of
adopting
Maryland
did
get
mentioned
in
committee.
B
A
couple
times
by
some
Democrats
got
a
little
bit
into
the
conversation,
but
you
could
tell
it
was
it
was
more
comprehensive
than
the
the
Republicans
really
wanted
to
deal
with
the
thing
that
I
have
talked
to
a
few
members.
Is
there
they're
supposed
to
be
setting
up
like
a
health
care?
Commission
they've
got
a
bill
floating
around
someplace.
It's
going
to
create
this,
like
Health
Care
commission,
and
it's
supposed
to
be
looking
at
these
issues
more
fully,
and
so
what
I'm
hoping
is
this
summer
in
the
coming
year,
when
that
commission's?
B
Looking
at
all
these
issues,
they'll
look
at
Maryland
I
mean
I've
talked
to
the
public
health
children
in
the
house.
Some
other
people
involved
in
the
bills
and
I
said.
Look
it's
worth
really
trying
to
find
out,
what's
happening
in
Maryland
how
it's
working
and
see
if
that
model
happened
here.
The
other
thing
that's
likely
to
make
it
more
more
palatable
or
just
a
little
more
viable.
B
Is
the
you
have
to
get
a
lot
of
waiver
some
Medicaid
and
Medicare,
because
they're
involved
in
all
these
payment
systems
and
I'm
I'm
told
that
CMS
The
Innovation
people
at
Medicare
and
Medicaid
are
going
to
put
out
a
what
they
call
tool
kit
for
how
States
could
adopt
the
Maryland
system?
So
I
think
that
that
might
give
impetus
to
do
something
with
it.
A
C
I'll
just
say
that
we
heard
from
the
Republican
caucus
and
the
Senate
that
addressing
health
care
costs
was
going
to
be
a
priority.
This
session,
but
I
I,
know
I.
Think
some
of
those
bills
have
really
run
into
some
serious
issues
and
the
I
think
one
of
the
issue
that
there
was
was
it
was
just
addressing
it
from
hospitals
and
not
really
bringing
in
insurers
to
have
this
joint
conversation.
So
I
agree
with
Matt
I.
C
Think
this
Health
Care
commission
to
look
at
costs
is
going
to
play
an
important
role,
and
hopefully
there
will
be
good
people
around
that
table
to
attack
this
problem.
That
really
benefits
Hoosiers
and
again
doesn't
just
you
know,
line
the
pockets
of
people
who
already
are
calling
the
shots,
and
we
have
an
interesting
Bill.
C
Actually,
it's
Senate
bill,
400.,
it's
a
Liz,
Brown,
Senator,
Brown
Bill
and
it
kind
of
is
addressing
some
of
these
issues
in
a
more
a
scalpel
versus
a
kind
of
a
machete
kind
of
approach,
with
some
of
these
larger
bill
or
some
of
the
sort
of
priority
bills
of
the
Senate.
So
there
are
lots
of
pieces
of
Senate,
Bill,
400
but
I'm
kind
of
concerned,
because
it
was
called
back
on
Thursday
back
to
seconds.
C
It
was
up
for
a
third
on
Thursday
and
it
was
called
back
to
seconds
and
so
I'm
I'm
I'm
really
watching
that
bill
to
see
what
happens
on
Monday,
because
that
Bill
had
some
interesting
pieces
of
policy
in
it.
So
we'll
have
to
keep
an
eye
on
on
Senate
Bill
400
to
see,
if
maybe
it
ends
up
dying
in
the
Senate.
A
C
So
yes,
this
bill
to
to
make
our
Public
Schools,
who
aren't
using
their
buildings
at
least
60
percent
for
the
instruction
of
children.
It
would
trigger
that
the
school
would
need
to
offer
this
building
up
for
a
dollar
to
a
charter
school
and
that
Senate
that
bill
is
Senate
bill
391..
It
made
it
out
of
I'll,
come
back
to
in
just
a
second,
but
it
made
it
out
of
the
Senate
and
when
it
went
over
to
the
house,
it
got
gutted
and
other
language
was
put
into
that
bill.
C
But
when
it
came
back
to
conference,
Senator
Rogers
it's
her
bill,
she
put
her
language
back
into
it.
So
it's
in
conference
committee
right
now
and
it's
kind
of
sitting
there
but
part
of
that
terrible
one
dollar
language,
so
in
in
Ellettsville
for
Edgewood,
they
do
have
a
building
that
they
had
been
using
for
they
had
a
head
start
in
they
were
they
Head
Start
was
in
that
space
for
a
while
and
now
Boys
and
Girls
Club.
They
have
they're
using
this
space
and
kids
from
Edgewood
and
Seven
Oaks.
C
They
leave
school
and
they
go
use.
The
after-school
programming
of
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
but
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
they
want
to
invest
in
this
space
and
want
to
make
some
improvements
and
they
can't
because
they're
afraid
that
it's
going
to
trigger
this
one
dollar,
rule
or
they'll
have
to
sell
it
to
a
charter.
So
they
haven't
made
those
improvements.
C
So
I
worked
with
Senator
Rogers
to
make
this
carve
out
for
non-profits
if
they
are
currently
having
a
relationship
with
a
public
school
and
using
space
that
they
could
go
ahead
and
Lease
do
a
long-term
lease
with
this
with
with
a
non-profit.
But
it
has
to
be
a
relationship.
That's
currently
happening
and
pretty
much.
It
is
me
and
a
school
corporation
up
in
Porter
County
that
have
this,
where
a
YMCA
does
a
similar
programming
for
for
a
I,
think
Porter
County
School
Corporation,
it's
back
in
the
bill.
C
The
bill
itself
is
not
good,
but
we
did
CR.
You
know
we
were
able
to
get
this
little
carve
out
for
Edgewood
and
the
boys
and
girls
club
for
the
Ellettsville
Community,
which
is
important,
but
the
bill
itself
is
terrible,
but
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
so
right.
Now.
It's
still
alive,
making
a
really
bad
Bill
a
little
bit
better,
but
it's
391
and
it's
in
conference
committee.
A
Was
on
the
referendum
that
would
share
with
Charter's
referendum
Revenue
that
would
be
shared
with
Charter,
Schools
and
I
I.
Don't
know
if
you
would
have
any
thoughts
on
that
or
where
anything
like
that
is
yeah.
B
Well,
the
I
mean
the
charter.
People
are
just
working
all
these
different
bills
in
all
different
places.
Trying
to
find
you
know
a
place
to
get
more
money
out
of
the
system
and
so
I
think
that
what
might
be
happening
now
is
they've
shipped
their
focus
a
little
bit
because
they
they
got
a
little
piece
last
session.
I.
Think
that
said
that
a
school
corporation
could
voluntarily
share
money
with
them,
and
so
that's
out
there.
B
But
now
it
looks
like
they're
attempting
to
get
property
tax
money
and
so
I'm
pretty
sure
that
in
the
Senate
budget
they
put
a
provision
in
that
will
now
give
Charter
Schools
some
access
to
property
tax
money
which
they
hadn't
had
before
so
I
have
a
suspicion
that
they've
kind
of
redirected
their
a
lot
of
their
energy.
On
that
trying
to
get
that
property
tax
money,
and
so
you
know,
I've
lost
track.
I
mean
the
thing
about
these
education
bills.
It's
really
frustrating
there's
these
big
gargantuan
bills.
B
They
got
all
kinds
of
stuff
in
them
and
then
you
even
kind
of
talk
to
some
of
the
people
who
are
like
you
know,
shepherding
them
through
the
process
and
they
have
a
hard
time
keeping
track.
What's
what's
in
them,
so
you
know
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
kind
of
falls
out
in
conference,
but
I
have
a
suspicion
that
now
it's
more
about
trying
to
get
the
property
tax
money.
A
Thank
you,
representative,
Pierce
I
think
Ralph
Shaw.
You
have
a
question
for
the
representatives.
C
Well,
thank
you,
Ralph
I
think
oh,
do
I
go
first,
I
just
jump
right
in
there,
so
the
long-term
forecast
is
with
voucher
and
choice
or
voucher
expansion
and
pretty
much
a
versatile
Choice.
That's
the
end
goal,
and
that
is
the
the
vision
of
as
I've
heard
him
call
the
architect
of
school
choice
in
Indiana,
which
is
the
chair
of
the
House
Education
committee,
Representative,
Bob
baining.
This
is
his
vision
and
it's
shared
by
a
few
other
states
that
have
not
been
successful.
I
mean
they're.
C
You
know
these
states
like
Arizona,
you
know
it's
it's
incredibly
problematic,
and
that
is
the
end
goal
with
the
public
education
system
in
Indiana
is
to
make
Indiana
a
universal
Choice,
State
and
all
dollars
would
be
spent
with
all
the
schools
and
the
we
already
used
this
phrase,
but
the
school
would
fi.
The
money
would
follow.
Every
single
student
and
ultimately,
as
and
I,
was
on
Indiana
lawmakers
I
can't
keep
these
shows
straight
with
representative
Banning
arguing
this
point.
You
can
watch
it
it's
on
PBS,
but
representative
baining
said.
C
Ultimately,
what
he
would
like
is
an
education
savings
account
built
up
for
every
single
student
and
the
parent
can
spend
those
dollars
for
education
purposes
according
to
how
the
parent
would
like
to
spend
those
dollars-
and
this
has
happened
as
I
mentioned,
like
Arizona-
and
it's
been
an
accountability
and
a
transparency
Nightmare,
and
we
already
see
that
currently,
where
we've
had
some
virtual
schools,
completely
fleece
taxpayers,
we've
had
other
Charter
Schools
do
the
same
where
they
said
they
were
going
to
do
one
thing
and
did
another
or
they
don't
have
the
students
that
they
said
they
were
going
to
have
so.
A
B
You
September
representative
Pierce
yeah.
The
important
thing
to
understand
is
you
know
there
are
many
Republicans
who
feel
that
the
quote
government
school
is
where
the
woke
teachers
go
in
and
they
brainwash
and
propagandize
the
students
and
turn
them
into
liberals
and
now
they're,
even
turning
them
into
different
sexes.
D
B
Liberate
the
parents
to
let
them
to
choose
where
to
go,
and
so
the
ultimate
end
game
and
and
represent
banning's
been
working
on
this,
for
you
know,
probably
a
decade
and
the
speaker
of
the
house
is
firmly
behind
it.
They
want
to
get
to
a
system-
and
this
was
the
original
Genesis
came
from
this
Milton
Friedman
idea
that
if
you
give
every
parent
a
pile
of
money
and
say,
go
buy
some
education
that
this
will
introduce
all
these
free
market
principles
and
competition
and
therefore
prices
would
come
down.
Quality
would
go
up.
B
You
know
it's
the
it's,
the
classic
kind
of
conservative
Economist
argument,
and
so
this
is
what
they
want
to
get
to.
They
want
to
get
to
a
system
where
no
schools
are
funded
directly,
that
all
the
money,
whatever
amount
they
decide
should
be
spent
on
each
student
to
get
educated,
will
go
to
the
parents
and
they'll
decide
whether
they
want
to
spend
it
at
a
traditional
Public
School,
a
charter
school,
a
private
school,
a
religious
school
and
I
suppose
they
can
eventually
they'll
be
able
to
just
keep
the
money
and
do
homeschooling.
B
You
know
there's
they
just
really
want
to
completely
disconnect
the
school
funding
system,
as
we've
known
it.
You
know
for
the
last
150
years
or
so,
and
you
know
they've
they've
been
doing
this
very
incrementally,
but
they're
getting
a
little
bit
more
bold
each
year.
So
you
know
if
they'd
stood
up
10
years
ago
and
said
hey,
we
want
to
defund
all
of
our
public
schools
and
just
hand
money
out
to
parents,
so
they
can
go
to
schools
that
better
fit
their
ideology.
I,
don't
think
there'd
be
much
support
for
that.
B
But
they've
started
out
very
incrementally.
You
know
with
the
most
sympathetic
of
constituencies
and
now
they're
expanding
that
out
to
the
point
where
we're
just
going
to
get
to
some
very
wealthy
families
who
maybe
already
are
paying
for
private
school
because
they
opted
to
do
that.
But
now
the
state
will
pay
for
that.
Instead.
A
I
Yes,
thank
you.
I
am
on
the
school
board
in
Brown
County
and,
as
you
know,
we
had
a
referendum
who
that
recently
failed
we're
discussing
what
to
do
in
the
wake
of
that
and
a
large
loss
of
funding
and
one
of
the
issues
that
I
identify
I
think
we
all
do
is
the
language
on
the
ballot
for
referendum
and
I
know
that
there
was
at
some
point
a
part
of
a
bill
that
actually
recommended
some
changes
to
that
language
and
I've
lost
track
of
it.
I
I,
don't
remember
now
what
bill
it
was
in
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
any
excuse
me
any
update
on
whether
or
not
there's
any
progress
on
that.
B
Foreign
yeah
I,
don't
I,
don't
remember
seeing
that
provision
get
to
the
house
floor.
That
doesn't
mean
it's
not
in
one
of
these
big
Omnibus
bills,
but
I
have
to
admit
that
I
haven't
seen
that
in
a
bill
or
heard
any
discussion
or
debate
about
it.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
gotten
Left
Behind
or
it's
just
kind
of
buried,
someplace.
C
Hi
Amy
I
I
would
I'm
okay,
I'm
gonna,
say
I'm
same
I,
I'm,
not
sure
where
that
language
was
was
that
a
I
wanna
I
almost
want
to
say
it
might
have
been
a
senator
Becker,
either
an
amendment
or
an
actual
bill,
but
I
I
hate
to
say
it.
It
was
a
little
off
my
radar,
but
maybe
maybe
it's
something
we
need
to
pick
up
for
next
session,
but
it
didn't
get
any
kind
of
air
time
on
the
Senate
side.
A
A
Has
there
been
any
amendments,
language
to
kind
of
get
more,
a
little
bit
more
oversight
on
sort
of
cleaning
up
some
of
the
the
Lesser
productive
charter?
Schools
in
the
state,
foreign.
B
B
Don't
have
any
interest
I
mean
the
whole
thing
they
like
is
the
fact
that
these
schools
can
operate
without
any
government
quote
interference,
so
I
mean
we
had
that
huge
scandal
with
the
virtual
Charter
School,
the
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
I
mean
we
still
haven't
gotten
to
the
bottom
of
that,
and
no
one
has
seen
very
interested
in
even
addressing
that
more
direct
problems,
so
I
I
just
think
there
isn't
any
interest
in
applying
any
kind
of
oversight.
C
Well,
I
I
would
say
it's
not
so
much
a
little
bit.
We
tried
to
expand
education
bills
to
include
Charter,
Schools,
private
schools.
If
it's,
if
it
seems
to
be
good
enough
for
our
traditional
Public
Schools,
then
the
same
policy
should
be
good
enough
for
charter
schools
and
private
schools,
but
it
just
doesn't
go
anywhere,
but
it's
interesting
because
some
bills
that
are
about
you
know
one
of
the.
When
we
actually
had
this
conversation
about
1608
1608
was
the
bill.
C
Banning,
the
use
or
human
sexuality
education
in
pre-k
through
third
grade
instruction:
human
sexuality,
instruction,
Banning
it
for
pre-k
through
third
grade
and
the
notification
or
consent
language.
If
a
child
requests
to
be
if
a
student
requests
to
be
called
by
a
different
name
or
different
pronoun
needing
to
get
consent
from
the
parent
that
that
all
that
language
just
dealt
with
traditional
public
schools-
and
you
know
even
in
that
language,
we
were
trying
to
say
if
this
is
so
important.
C
Why
don't
we
include
a
charter
and
or
include
private
schools,
private
schools,
and
that
would
that
was
an
interesting
exchange
on
the
floor
of
the
senate
for
sure.
But
I.
Don't
know
Chris
why
we
can't
get
to
the
same
Universal,
transparency
and
accountability
on
the
part
of
our
Charter
Schools,
especially
when
we're
told
those
are
public
schools
too.
So
why
can't
the
same?
Accountability
and
transparency
be
applied
to
both,
but
we
we
continue
to
fight
that
fight,
but
haven't
been
successful,
thus
far,.
A
B
They
win
with
the
letter
behind
their
name,
so
that
just
shows
you
how
they're
kind
of
moving
a
different
direction,
but
thankfully
that
Bill
gets
introduced.
I
thought
it
was
getting
a
little
more
momentum
this
time
around.
But
then
it
seemed
to
kind
of
collapse
under
its
own
weight.
So
I
think
that
probably
what's
killing
it
off
is
I.
Think
that
even
Republicans
who
happen
to
be
members
of
school
boards
I
think
they're
telling
their
Republican
members
like
look.
This
is
going
to
be
a
nightmare.
B
I
don't
want
to
have
to
come
into
a
partisan
atmosphere
of
Republicans
versus
Democrats
in
a
school
board
meeting.
It's
not
going
to
be
helpful,
so
I
think
that
the
fact
that
even
Republican
school
board
members
are
saying
like
we
don't
think
this
is
a
good
thing.
I
think
that's
tended
to
to
put
drag
on
the
bill.
C
I'm
not
hearing
that
that
language
is
going
to
appear
on
this
in,
we
would
have
to
appear
on
and
I
guess
an
election
bill
or
an
education
bill,
or
the
budget
and
I
just
haven't
seen
an
appetite
on
the
Senate
side
to
advance
that
language.
So
I
I
think
in
this
right
now,
I'm
going
to
say
I
think
it
might
be
dead.
A
Thank
you
Senator.
This
question,
we'll
start
with
representative
Pierce
is
there,
and
this
is
from
one
of
the
attendees.
Is
there
any
news
on
House
Bill
1623
regarding
coal
ash,
no
more
stringent,
and
that
would
restrict
agencies
for
Indiana.
B
Yeah,
it's
administrative
rulemaking
and
it's
kind
of
reworking
the
way
that
these
rules
get
made
in
the
environmental
area,
and
so
it
just
let's
see,
did
it
come
out
of
committee.
B
A
B
So
I
think
that
I
think
it
might
be
sitting
on
third
reading
over
in
the
Senate
as
best
as
I
can
tell
from
this.
For.
B
A
little
bit
Yeah,
so
let
me
try
to
remind
myself
here
what
we're
doing
here,
because
there's
a
bunch
of
different
stuff
in
this
bill.
It's
trying
to
just
I
think
it's
a
situation
where
what
they're
essentially
saying
is
we
don't
really
trust
idem
and
these
rule
making
situations?
It's
kind
of
been
this
attack
on
rule
making
and
the
administrative
agencies
for
several
sessions
now
and
they
keep
kind
of
circling
around,
and
so
it's
going
to
require
that
rules
have
to
be
reviewed
more
quickly.
B
So
right
now,
every
seven
years
the
agency
is
supposed
to
go
back
and
say:
do
we
still
need
this
regulation
they're
going
to
move
that
down
to
five?
They
have
to
webcast
their
meetings.
B
I
think
they're,
going
to
basically
make
give
the
budget
agency
in
the
Office
of
Management
budgets
and
the
ability
to
kind
of
oversee
things
a
little
bit
of
the
federal
model
where
they
kind
of
get
the
metal
and
the
rule
making,
and
it
says
it
requires
publication
that
detects
the
proposed
Rule
and
the
first
commenter
period.
So
it's
messing
around
the
commenting.
So
it's
a
lot
of
kind
of
procedural
stuff.
B
That's
that
kind
of
just
deals
with
rule
making
and
then
also
emergency
rules
and
and
all
that,
so
it's
it's
kind
of
a
mess
to
know
how
it's
actually
gonna
play
out
in
the
real
world.
But
apparently
that's
coming
up
on
third
reading
as
near
as
I
can
tell
yeah,
and
it
says
the
bill
still
does
prohibit
standards
for
disposal
cold
combustion
residuals,
that's
the
coal
ash
stuff
to
be
more
stringent
than
Federal
standards.
So
this
whole
battle
over
coal
ash
has
been
and
been
going
on
for
a
long
time.
B
You
know
the
environmental
Community
is
very
concerned
about
it.
They
you
know,
you
basically
have
these
kind
of
lagoons,
it's
easy
for
the
stuff
to
seep
into
the
into
the
groundwater.
You
don't
have
you
know
the
proper
containment
and
the
utilities
you
let
these
things
kind
of
pile
up
over
the
decades.
They
want,
as
we
as
little
requirements
as
possible
to
kind
of
just
cap,
these
things
off
and
call
them
good,
and
so
so
there
is
still
that
provision
in
the
bill.
B
That
would
that
would
essentially
say
you
can't
do
anything
more
than
what
the
federal
government
forces
us
to
do,
which
which,
by
the
way
that
there's
language
already
floating
around
or
in
the
statute
that
I've
gotten
past.
That
says
that
you're
not
supposed
to
have
any
rules
more
stringent
than
the
federal
rules.
So
the
whole
ethic
of
the
general
assembly
right
now
is
like
we
shouldn't
do
anything
on
health
and
safety
more
than
what
the
federal
government
makes
us
do,
and
so
that
that
bill,
I
think
is
kind
of
doubling
down
on
that
approach.
C
Would
just
add
that
some
of
these
amendments
sort
of
carving
out
communities
that
are
trying
to
deal
with
the
coal
ash
in
their
communities,
I
mean
these
Amendments
have
bipartisan
support
and
those
communities
that
want
to
be
able
to
have
local,
say
and
and
how
they're
managing
these
coal
ash
dump
sites
I
think
is
legitimate
and
that's
what's
you
know?
These
are
bipartisan
efforts
and
what
you
know,
what
is
easy
to
say
is
when
you
don't
live
in
those
communities.
It's
easy
to
say
you
know
it's
nothing
to
see
here.
C
It's
all
fine,
but
these
local
communities
are
dealing
with
these
coal
ash
sites
and
that's
where
you're,
seeing
the
real
pushback
and
I
I
think
in
a
more
kind
of
macro
level,
we're
already
having
conversation
about
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
renewable
waste
and
and
yet
it's
sort
of
trying
the
red
herring
trying
to
push
the
conversation
away
so
we're
talking
about
you
know
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
wind
turbines
when
they
are
no
longer
functioning?
C
You
know,
let's
deal
with
the
our
solar
panels,
how
are
we
going
to
decommission
solar
panels?
Yes,
we
should
be
having
those
conversations,
but
why
can't
we
have
those
same
conversations
or
we
should
have
been
having
them
and
we
need
to
have
them
now
about
the
residual
of
fossil
fuel,
consumption
and
coal.
But
this
legislature
doesn't
want
to
seem
they're
they're.
They
just
don't
want
to
have
that
serious
conversation
and
want
to
distract
the
conversation
and
just
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
decommission
Renewables.
A
Thank
you,
Senator
I,
don't
see
any
more
questions,
but
I
do
want
to
provide
the
representatives
here
today
that
are
joining
us
for
any
final
thoughts
or
anything
that
we
did
not
cover.
We
have
quite
a
bit
of
ground
here
in
a
little
over
an
hour
representative
Pierce.
Do
you
have
any.
B
Yeah
I
think
one
thing
that
I
forgot
to
mention.
You
might
recall
that
there
was
Amendment
put
into
the
budget
in
the
house
that
would
forbid
any
state
funding
for
the
Kinsey,
Institute
and
I
kind
of
expected
that
to
drop
out
in
the
senate
committee
version,
but
it's
still
in
there
so
I
think.
That's
interesting,
I
still
think
it'll
probably
drop
out
in
the
conference
committee.
But
what
that
tells
me
is
the
people
who
crafted
the
Senate
budget.
B
Maybe
Senator
Mishler
did
not
want
to
have
to
have
a
battle
with
these
kind
of
Q
Anon
people
who
are
in
all
these
conspiracies,
one
of
which
has
been
around
for
20
years
that
the
Kinsey
Institute
that
Alfred
Kinsey
was
some
kind
of
child
molester,
which
is
just
ridiculous,
and
so
that's
still
in
there
in
the
budget.
So
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
interesting
it'll
it'll,
be
you
know.
B
I
was
explaining
to
the
speaker
that
if
you
let
crazy
stuff
go
on
the
budget
and
actually
stays
in
the
budget,
the
floodgates
will
open
and
the
next
time
around,
all
the
crazy
will
be
lined
up,
like
you
wouldn't
believe
so.
I'm
hoping
that
they
will
get
that
out
because
to
to
the
speaker's
credit,
you
could
tell
from
the
look
on
his
face
that
he
wasn't
really
very
happy
that
the
person
introduced
that
and
then
requested
a
roll
call
vote.
B
I
think
I
mentioned
before
the
dynamic
you
get
there
is
you
have
kind
of
the
the
extreme
conservatives
kind
of
the
alt-right
people
they
vote
for
because
they
believe
it
it's
really
needed,
and
then
you've
got
the
rest
of
the
alliance
that
puts
it
over
the
top
that
gets
it.
51
votes
in
the
house
are
the
people
that
are
like
this
is
kind
of
crazy,
but
if
I
vote
against
it,
I
will
get
primary.
B
I
will
get
taken
out
by
primary,
because
the
person
who
offered
that
Amendment
the
legislator
offered
the
amendment
to
defund
Kinsey
unexpectedly
defeated
the
chair
of
the
rules
committee
who'd
served
in
the
legislature
for
probably
more
than
20
years,
and
so
people
like,
if
it
can
happen
to
him,
it
could
happen
to
me
so
I,
better,
not
cross
this
person
in
something
called
The,
Liberty
I
think
it's
called
a
liberty
caucus
or
Liberty
Fund.
B
They
have
their
own
pack
and
they're
out
there
and
they're
really
working
hard
to
reshape
the
Republican
party
in
this
kind
of
you
know,
alt-right
image,
so
that's
that
is
something
I
thought
that
was
interesting,
and
you
know
this
is
always
a
hard
meeting
this
last
one,
because
it's
hard
to
predict
exactly
how
all
this
stuff's
going
to
come
out,
because
so
much
stuff's
in
conference
committee
depends
so
much
on
individuals
and
what
they
do
on
those
committees
and
then
what
the
legislature
actually
decides
to
do.
B
So
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
these
utility
bills
that
will
have
a
negative
impact
on
on
utility
customers.
Make
us
pay
more
and
kind
of
reduce
some
of
the
oversight
on
these
utilities,
and
you
know
they're
working
their
way
through
the
process
and
we're
going
to
have
to
see
what
the
you
know
what
the
final
form
of
them
is
going
to
be.
B
Although
Senate
Bill
9
already
has
been
signed
by
the
governor,
that
happened
pretty
quickly
that
essentially
removes
a
requirement
that
utilities
get
pre-approval
before
they
spend
money
to
comply
with
Federal
mandates,
usually
on
environmental
regulations
for
coal
plants.
B
So
it's
going
to
make
it
easier
for
utilities
to
kind
of
just
start
spending
money
and
then
get
approved
retroactively,
and
then
that
also
in
Senate
bill,
nine
had
a
provision
that
if
a
utility
decides
to
shut
down
a
coal
plant
ahead
of
schedule
that
wasn't
in
their
original
plans
and
things
they
file
with
the
commission,
they
have
to
go
back
and
get
special
approval.
And
so
again
this
is.
B
This
is
kind
of
driven
by
one
just
sheer
protectionism
for
the
coal
industry,
but
then
also
this
irrational
fear
that
we're
all
going
to
die
if
we
have
a
lot
of
Renewables
on
our
grid-
and
we
don't
have
this
good
old-fashioned
base
load
coal
power
plants
and
I.
Think
Senator
Yoder
touched
on
a
really
important
point,
and
that
is
while
we
willfully
ignore
environmental
issues
like
coal
ash
ponds
and
the
negative
impact
of
fossil
fuels
on
our
climate,
we're
already
thinking
20
years
out.
What
happens
when
that
wind
turbine
is
no
longer
used?
B
How
will
it
be
recycled?
What
will
happen
to
it?
What
about
all
those
solar
panels?
Oh
my
God!
What
if
we
have
all
these
old
solar
panels
laying
around
it,
could
be
an
environmental
hazard?
What
about
the
big
battery
storage
facilities?
They
could
explode
and
burn
us
out
of
the
ground.
Oh,
my
God.
We've
got
to
have
some
regulations
on
that,
and
so
it's
very
I'm
curious
to
me
that
when
it
comes
to
Renewables,
we
got
to
get
in
there
and
regulate
and
be
proactive
and
think
about
all
the
horrible
things
that
might
happen.
C
Well,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
and
I'm
going
to
leave
us
on
a
high
note,
because
let
me
tell
you
what
we
achieved
this
week
for
women
is
pretty
it's
pretty
great.
Well,
I
was
able
to
successfully
hear
my
Lark
long-acting
reversible
contraceptive
pill.
I
got
it
through
the
Senate.
It
I
think
it's
up
for
a
third
readings
in
the
house
tomorrow,
I
mean
whatever
day
we
are
on
Monday,
and
that
is
that's
exciting
and
we
also
passed
through
the
Senate.
C
The
ability
for
pharmacists
to
prescribe
birth
control,
both
the
patch
and
birth
control
pills-
and
this
is
going
to
at
least
in
those
circumstances
where
a
person
needs
to
have
access
and
doesn't
have
real
access
to
maybe
a
primary
care
doctor
or
a
gynecologist
or
a
maternal
Health
provider.
Who
can
see
that
individual
and
prescribe
they
can
go
to
a
pharmacist?
C
The
bill
does
does
say
that
the
individual
has
to
see
a
primary
care
physician
within
six
months,
but
it
does
increase
and
improve
accessibility
issues
for
Indiana,
because
we
do
have
access
issues
throughout
Indiana,
and
so
those
two
things
happened
this
week
and
I.
Don't
want
that
to
not
be
you
know,
celebrated
and
lifted
up.
C
You
know
it's
not
done
yet
because
I,
don't
think
1568,
which
is
the
pharmacy
prescribed
bill,
has
been
signed
by
the
governor
I'm,
not
sure
about
that
I've
been
thinking
about
these
other
issues
and
I
know
252
will
be
heard
on
finals
in
the
house.
So
we're
not
quite
there
yet.
But
those
are
those
are
some
bright
spots
in
the
Indiana
legislature
that
I'm
going
to
celebrate
and
I've
been.
C
You
know,
working
incredibly
hard
on
that
Lark
Bill
and
working
with
on
the
Senate
side,
with
Senator
Glick
on
the
pharmacist
prescribed
bill,
so
that's
kind
of
a
little
update,
but
thank
you
to
everyone's
advocacy
and
holding
our
feet
to
the
fire
and
participation
in
these
events.
It
means
a
lot
to
for
me
to
hear
from
you
and
that
you
do
all
the
work
to
have
these
every
month.
Thank
you,
they're
important
I
might
even
say
consider
having
one
maybe
in
December
I
know
that's
a
busy
time,
but
having
one
before
we
start.
C
So
we
can
hear
from
you
on
what
what
you
would
like
us
to
be
working
on.
Maybe
November
would
be
good,
I,
don't
know,
I'll
just
put
it
out
there
and
say
that
would
be
helpful
to
me,
but
these
are
always
helpful
in
hearing
about
what's
happening
in
real
time.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
It's
an
honor
to
serve
you
thank.
A
H
This
came
up
actually
in
the
local
candidate
forum
and
they
sort
of
said:
why
don't
we
have
better
cooperation
and
working
together
with
at
the
state
house
with
people
who
have
who
share
the
values
and
interests
of
the
people
in
in
this
case
it
was
in
Bloomington,
because
it
was
a
Bloomington
candidate
Forum.
So
could
you
say
a
little
bit
about
what
you're
doing
to
collaborate
with
other
people
who
have
similar
political
agendas.
C
One
okay
I'll
go
first
I'm,
not
really
quite
sure,
I
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
question
is
actually
I
will
just
say.
H
C
You
know,
let's
say
political
values
in
access
to
birth
control.
I
have
been
working.
You
know
across
the
aisle
with
folks
like
Senator
Becker,
Senator,
lysing,
Senator
Glick
of
people
who
I
know
share
this
value
and
I
know.
On
the
house
side.
I've
been
working
with
Senators
who
share
values
with
me,
I
mean
there's
a
new
representative
representative
genda
Mark
genda,
who
filed
my
repeal
for
menstrual
products
in
the
house,
and
so
he
and
I.
C
He
actually
sees
this
as
a
you
know
as
common
sense
and
that's
a
shared
value,
and
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
on
this
and
I
know.
I
have
friends
who
share
this
on
the
in
the
Democrat
Party
in
the
house,
but
it's
good
to
find
these
little
areas
of
values.
Maybe
you
know
it's
smaller
things
rather
than
you
know,
being
you
know
the
big,
the
big
issues,
but
these
smaller
places,
I
will
say
this.
C
Last
year,
I
had
a
you
know:
I
had
a
conversation
with
somebody
who
voted
again
or
voted
in
support
of
the
of
the
bill
that
would
allow
trans
children
to
participate
in
sports,
and
we
had
a
really
impactful
conversation
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day
this
year,
with
those
bills
that
individual
voted
along
with
those
folks
who
shared
values
in
standing
up
for
Trans
rights,
so
that
that's
a
win
I
mean
I,
know
we're
running.
It
doesn't
feel
like
we
have
that
much
time
to
work
individually
with
every
single
legislate
later.
C
But
you
know
it
does
just
take
hard
conversations
and
being
able
to
humanize
these
values
and
that's
how
I'm
working
to
make
build
these
Bridges
and
I've.
You
know.
Yes,
it
does
seem
frustrating
at
times,
but
I've
made
some
progress
with
with
these
shared
values
on
a
one-on-one
basis,.
B
Yeah
I
think
clear.
Clearly,
when
you're
in
a
minority
in
the
house,
we
have
30
Democrats
or
seven
Republicans,
you
have
no
choice
but
to
seek
out
and
see
if
you
can
find
Republicans
who
share
your
views
on
any
particular
issue
and-
and
you
know
Shelly
and
I-
make
that
happen
anytime.
We
can.
But
the
reality
is
that
you
know
kind
of
on
the
Big
Value
issues
that
I
think
people
in
our
community
most
focused
on
things
like
Reproductive
Rights.
B
You
know
school
funding,
private
schools
versus
public
schools
with
taxpayer
dollars
all
these
kind
of
big,
more
philosophical
or
ideological
issues
they're
just
the
other
side
has
a
very
firm
view
on
that
and
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
most
of
them
over
to
what
I
think
is
probably
the
majority
of
you
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
in
fact,
I
spent
a
lot
of
my
time
trying
to
fight
what
one
member
of
our
caucus
deter
called
colonization
of
democratic
areas
by
the
legislature,
because
one
example
where
this
is
happening,
a
lot
is
with
Indianapolis.
B
So
you
have
the
situation
where
Indianapolis
now
is
a
very
Democratic
Community.
They
have
all
pretty
much
all
Democratic
elected
officials
now,
but
most
of
the
many
other
legislators
are
Republicans
because
of
the
gerrymandering.
So
they
take
a
rural
area
and
they
make
giant
district
and
they
take
a
little
bite
out
of
Marion
County
a
little
bit
Indianapolis
to
dilute
the
Democratic
vote
so
that
you
can
have
a
Republican
representative,
and
so
those
people
get
frustrated
because
when
they're
in
the
state
house
they
have
the
super
majority
power
and
they
can
make
stuff
happen.
B
But
when
they
step
out
onto
the
streets
into
their
community
of
Indianapolis,
they
are
in
the
Super
minority
and
the
City
County
Council
and
the
mayor
and
the
prosecutor
and
the
people
there
are
reflecting
the
values
of
their
voters.
So,
for
example,
the
prosecutor
said
I'm
not
going
to
prosecute
low-level
marijuana.
You
know
possession
I'm
just
not
going
to
waste
my
time
on
that.
Well,
the
Republicans
don't
like
that,
and
so
what
do
they
do?
B
They
try
to
get
legislation
passed,
to
remove,
be
able
to
basically
override
the
discretion
of
local
prosecutors
and
have
another
prosecutor
come
in
and
prosecute
all
those
cases.
So
that's
what
we
call
the
colonization.
It's
like
the
old
day
of
the
Great
British
Empire
right
they're,
going
to
decide
what
happens
in
these
far-flung
lands
and
self-determination
is
kind
of
out
the
window.
So
you
know
a
lot
of
my
time
is
spent
just
trying
to
get
the
legislature
to
respect
the
fact
that
local.
B
A
Right
well,
we'll
leave
it
at
that
representative
Pierce.
If
we
could
get
our
final
slide
for
us,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
attendees.
First
of
all
for
the
fourth
four
of
four
legislative
updates.
I
want
to
thank
the
the
lead
for
putting
these
on.
It's
been
a
pleasure
for
me
to
moderate
these
sessions.
They've
been
very
informative.
You
can
find
the
bills
in
the
general
assembly
website.
You
want
to
stay,
active
and
contact
your
legislators
on
issues
you
care
about.
A
We
will
hope
to
see
you
back
in
2024,
if
not
maybe
a
early
one,
as
Senator
uter
said
in
late
2023..
If
you
did
register
for
this
update,
you'll
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with
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from
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co-sponsors,
speaking
of
which
I
first
want
to
thank
our
legislators,
Senator
Yoder
and
representative
Peters
for
taking
time
out
of
their
busy
schedule
on
this
beautiful
Saturday
morning
to
join
us.
A
Obviously,
the
attendees
as
well
Community
Access,
Television
services,
cats,
who's
broadcasting.
This
and
this
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be
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Our
team
members.
Here
we
want
to
do
the
sponsors,
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League
of
Women
Voters
Bloomington,
Monroe
County,
and
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League
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Women
Voters
Brown
County,
the
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
Andy
Brown
County
Chamber
of
Commerce
I,
want
to
thank
all
of
you
and
everybody
for
participating
in
this.
This
has
been
a
wonderful
for
me
to
be
a
part
of
I
want
to
just
say,
thank
you,
and
we
will
see
you
soon.