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A
B
Okay,
I'm,
sorry
Ryan,
are
you
out
there.
A
C
Close
enough
Panic,
sorry
Clements
here
c
word:.
C
A
F
H
H
C
C
A
All
right,
we
have
a
quorum
present
in
the
room,
so
we
have
a
quorum
for
the
purpose
of
conducting
official
business.
We
will
start
with
a
recitation
of
the
agenda.
We
will
first
hold
nominations
and
election
of
officers
for
the
year.
2023
we'll
have
approval
of
minutes,
we'll
have
communications
from
the
chair
and
vice
chair
reports
from
officers
and
or
committees
reports
from
the
mpo
staff.
We
have
five
items
listed
under
that
category.
A
We
have
one
item
of
old
business
in
that
two
and
four
year:
reliability:
transportation
management
targets
under
the
new
business.
We
have
two
items:
one
is
the
indot
annual
performance
measures,
2023
safety,
Target
declaration
and
the
second
is
The
BMC
mpo
fiscal
year
2022-2026
tip
amendments.
There
are
six
of
them.
We
will
then
go
to
public
comment
on
matters
not
included
on
the
agenda.
We'll
have
communications
from
committee
members
on
matters
not
included
on
the
agenda,
we'll
review
upcoming
meeting
schedule,
and
then
we
will
adjourn.
A
A
C
J
G
D
A
D
A
D
Call
for
nominations
well:
I'll,
go
ahead
and
nominate
Sarah
writer
band
for
vice
chair.
Let's.
A
A
We
have
two
nominees
for
chair.
We
can,
instead
of
having
to
vote
Yes
or
No
anyone.
We
simply
have
people
declare
who
they're
voting
for
before
we
go
to
a
vote.
Is
there
any
comments
from
either
nominee
I'll
start
with
Ms
Ridge?
Did
you
want
to
say
anything?
A
Okay,
I,
don't
either
so
with
that
I
will
ask
for
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
chair
of
the
mpo
for
2023..
We
have
a
role
called
vote
plan,
please
say
either
Ridge
or
volin.
L
M
C
F
C
C
C
D
C
D
A
A
Okay,
we
don't
have
a
a
majority
in
either
case.
I
would
suggest
that
perhaps
maybe
we
postpone
this
to
next
month,
if
no
one
objects
and
I
think
we
should
probably
also
postpone
the
vice
chair
until
next
month
too,
if
no
one
objects
seeing
no
objection,
we'll
move
on
to
approval
of
minutes,
for
we
have
one
set
of
approval
minutes
for
October
14
2022.
There
are
any
comments
or
Corrections
on
the
minutes
for
the
previous
meeting.
D
C
Sorry
Mr
chair.
C
Break
since
one
of
his
extension
happened,
it
was
four
five
one
to
reach
so
sorry
about
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
any
comments
online
from
Members
about
the
minutes,
seeing
none
if
we
can
have
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
minutes.
G
J
I
A
Good,
thank
you.
The
minutes
are
approved.
We
now
go
to
Communications
from
the
chair
and
vice
chair.
I,
just
want
to
say,
first
of
all,
I'm
not
sure
who's
on
Ryan.
What
is
your
last
name.
C
A
A
C
A
Do
thank
you
other
than
that
again.
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
there's
plenty
to
go
through
today,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
to
keep
business
as
short
as
we
can.
So
we
can
get
through
as
much
of
the
agenda
that
as
possible,
especially
things
that
need
to
be
done
today,
so
we
can
be
done
by
three
o'clock.
Otherwise,
that's
all
I
have
Ms,
Ridge
I.
Think
your
Vice
chair,
aren't
you.
L
I
am
Vice
chair.
Did
we
go
back
to
nominations
or
are
we.
A
Very
good
we
go
now
to
reports
from
officers
and
or
committees.
Are
there
any
I
think
we're
having
a
report
from
the
citizens
advisory
committee,
Mr
writer,
man.
G
Yes,
citizens
citizens
advisory
committee
met
on
February
1st
for
their
January
meeting
and
we
recommended
approval
of
the
both
the
political
participation
plan,
as
well
as
the
indot
pavement
for
training
and
management
targets
and
the
new
amendments
that
we
will
be
seeing
later
in
this
meeting.
I
A
B
Yeah
prior
to
that,
I
want
to
make
sure
the
obvious
here.
Ryan
Clements
is
no
longer
here.
He
accepted
a
position
with
the
Washington
State
Department
of
Transportation
out
in
Bellingham
Washington
and
his
wife
also
accepted
a
position
of
sustainability
director
for
the
city
of
Bellingham,
Washington
too.
So,
therefore,
I
am
alone,
but
I
will
go
through
as
quickly
as
I
can
on
the
agenda
today
and
I
should
be
able
to
answer
all
of
your
questions,
starting
at
the
top.
B
With
the
meeting
schedules
for
the
committee's
policy
committee,
technical
advisory
and
citizens
advisory
citizens
advisory
met
on
on
schedule
in
January
technical
advisory
was
postponed
because
of
snow
snow
situation.
They
met
again,
they
moved
to
Last,
Friday
and
met,
and
then
this
the
first
meeting
of
the
policy
committee
we've
shifted
the
policy
committee
meeting.
B
So
that
way
it
makes
more
sense
in
terms
of
the
appointments
board's
appointments
to
the
policy
committee,
because
usually
by
the
time
we
have
those,
sometimes
they
change
later
on
in
the
month
in
January
and
but
then
we
had
to
add
December.
So
we've
got
the
first
I
think
it's
the
first
Friday
in
December
we've.
Also
got
a
couple
of
Minor
Adjustments
there
for
the
Thanksgiving
holiday,
where
we've
shifted
some
of
the
meetings
up
to
to
make
sure
they're
not
conflicting
with
the
holidays.
B
Other
than
that
the
schedule
is
out
there,
we've
had
it
out
there
since
I
believe
November
November,
December
and
January
Metropolitan
planning
organization
101.
The
introductory
overview
I
did
an
update
to
that
again
with
the
new
metrics
that
we've
got
added
from
the
Federal
Highway
Administration
Federal,
Transit
Administration.
One
thing
I
might
want
to
add
is
at
the
very
back
when
it
talks
about
resources.
We
added
in
a
the
fact
that
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation
now
has
a
mobile
app
and
the
mobile
app
is
yeah.
B
I
can't
remember
which
two
which
two
mobile
phone
platforms,
but
anyway,
there's
an
there's,
an
extra
way
to
contact
indot
besides
the
indot
for
you
besides
the
regular
email,
besides
a
little
good,
old-fashioned
email
and
besides
the
1-800
number
then
on
to
the
next
one,
which
is
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation
Bloomington
Transit
mpo,
Metropolitan
planning
agreement,
all
of
the
mbos,
all
the
all
14
mpos
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
We're
asked
to
update
their
Metropolitan
planning
agreements
with
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation.
This
is
to
reflect
current
legislation.
B
The
old
the
old
agreements
were
based,
I
think
they
were
2015
and
we
had
had
two
successive
Congressional
acts
since
that
time.
This
one
reflects
the
brand
new
one.
It's
in
your
packet,
we
have
the
copies
signed.
We
thanks
to
Bloomington
Transit.
We
were
able
to
get
it
done
in
less
than
24
hours,
but
in
in
the
central
office
it
took
an
extra
21
days,
so
we
still
got
it
accomplished
and
so
we're
operating
under
this
new
agreement.
B
The
agreement
spells
out
specific
tasks
that
we,
the
mpo,
is
responsible
for
and
these
these
tasks
align
with
Federal
requirements,
Federal
planning
requirements.
Next
we
did
a
first
gear,
2024-2028
Transportation
Improvement
program
call
for
projects.
This
is
for
the
brand
new
Transportation
Improvement
program.
The
deadline
for
those
applications
is
five
o'clock.
B
Today,
we've
received
applications
from
all
of
the
entities
that
I
would
expect,
except
for
one
so
far,
which
a
call
will
go
out
after
this
after
this
meeting
to
make
sure
that
that
that
entity
submits
and
then
with
the
all
the
applications
in
by
five
o'clock
today,
I
will
assemble
a
list
of
all
of
the
projects
and
put
them
into
a
spreadsheet
and
determine
what
the
fiscal
constraint
is,
or
the
unconstrained
fiscal
constraint
is
because
we're
we
have
certain
marks
that
we
have
to
achieve
by
every
one
of
the
fiscal
years,
and
then
we
will
also
put
those
spreadsheets
into
a
draft
Transportation
Improvement
program.
B
H
B
Wednesday
or
next
Thursday
we'll
see
what,
where
we're
at
after
that
we
have
the
fiscal
year.
2023
Transportation
Improvement
program
call
for
project
amendments.
This
is
only
fiscal
year
2023.
This
is
carbon,
Reduction,
Program
and
protect
program
formula
funds.
These
are
brand
new
monies
signed
into
law
by
Under
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law.
However,
they
didn't
become
available
to
the
Department
of
Transportation
and
didn't
trickle
down
to
the
mpos
until
after
October
1st
of
this
year.
B
We
did
the
call
for
projects
we
have
three
applications
received
in.
There
was
a
an
issue
of
unconstrained
requests.
One
of
the
parties
agreed
to
constrain
their
request,
and
so
therefore,
we
now
have
fiscal
balance.
Those
three
project
amendments
are
at
the
end
of
your
packet
and
we'll
consider
those
today,
oh
yeah
and
that's
gee
I'm
at
the
end,
I
didn't
realize
it
I'm
sorry
that.
A
Was
very
expeditious
report.
B
B
Can't
spell
it
out,
but
it's
Environmental
Protection
Focus
act,
work
activities
that
protect
the
environment,
such
as
the
way
you
do.
Your
your
excavation,
the
way
you're
doing
planting
trees
along
trails.
B
B
Okay,
yeah
it
in
the
call
for
project
amendments
which
went
out
January,
6th
I
think
it
was
something
like
that:
oh
no
February,
we
it
went
out
in
February,
we
had
the
list
of
items
in
there
that
were
eligible
activities
for
protect
and
a
list
of
items
that
were
eligible
activities
for
carbon
reduction.
Carbon
reduction
has
something
like
21
different
things:
the
qualified
protect
has
fewer,
and
the
funds
for
the
protect
program
is,
are
small
right
now,
they're
only
about
129
000
a
year,
but
every
dollar
counts
yeah.
I
A
B
A
G
A
B
Okay
and
I
have
I,
have
a
representative
here,
virtually
joining
us
virtually
from
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation
he's
the
office
Mo
I'm.
Sorry,
Mobility
engineer
for
the
Department
of
Transportation
for
corridor
system
performance,
this
the
two-year
and
four-year
reliability.
We
went
round
and
round
with
this
on
the
with
the
Department
of
Transportation
central
office,
because
at
first
we
were
told
that
we
had
to
adopt
everything
and,
as
it
turns
out,
a
vast
majority
of
those
items
actually
only
apply
to
areas
that
have
air
quality
issues.
B
We
do
not
have
an
air
quality
issue,
so
the
only
three
items
that
this
this
committee
needs
to
adopt
or
endorse
are
the
targets
that
are
set
by
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation
for
Interstate
and
non-interstate
level
of
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
in
front
of
me,
hello,
TTL,
I,
believe
it
is
GTO
and
travel
truck
type,
travel
time,
reliability,
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
have
those
in
front
of
me.
Do
we
have
the
the
representative
for
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation
central
office,
honest.
N
N
H
N
Kind
of
the
top
three
on
that
list,
the
level
of
travel
time,
reliability,
the
truck
travel
time
reliability
index
and
then
we
are
also
responsible
for
the
phed
metrics.
However,
those
don't
apply
to
to
this
Bloomington
mpo
area
and
then,
as
you've
said
and
I'll
just
clarify.
The
the
remainder
of
those
metrics
do
not
apply
to
the
Bloomington
area
and
the
reason
for
that
is
Federal.
Highway
sets
a
requirement
that
the
area
must
be
in
CMAC
non-attainment.
N
That's
requirement
one
and
then
requirement
two
is
a
population
requirement
and
I
believe
that
number
is
200
000.,
and
so,
as
long
as
you
don't
meet
both
of
those
requirements,
you
don't
have
to
do
the
peak
hour,
excessive
delay,
metrics
and
that's
why
you
see
Chicago
northwest
Indiana
and
Louisville
and
South
Bend
on
that
list,
because
they
they
met
those
requirements.
So
in
this
case
the
Bloomington
area
is
not
not
responsible
for
those.
N
Yeah
I
can
I
can
take
questions
if
you'd
like
if
it's
helpful
I
can
explain
the
metrics,
but
I
guess
I'll.
Leave
it
to
you
as
to
what
what
would
be
most
useful.
Thank.
B
A
E
Just
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
everything
correctly
there's
the
memo
enter
packet.
That
lists
a
number
of
performance
measures
sounds
like
all
that
we,
as
a
body
really
need
to
be
considering
and
voting
on,
are
the
top
three
items,
two
that
relate
to
essentially
reliability
on
Interstate
or
non-interstate
facilities,
and
then
the
Trump
travel
time
reliability,
so
I
just
wanted
to
I.
Guess
first
verify
that
that
is
correct.
E
Then
the
the
follow-up
question
I
have
is
actually
I
think
for
maybe
for
Mr
nickel,
the
representative
of
the
technical
advisory
committee,
I,
guess,
knowing
that
what
we're
looking
at
now
versus
maybe
some
of
the
conversation
that
the
technical
advisory
committee
had
for
many
of
the
questions
or
uncertainties
on
other
items
or
were
there
some
questions
still
on
these
items
that
maybe
we.
H
E
Ask
in
that
representative
to
help
us
with.
I
Sure,
and
and
looking
this
over
I
think
a
lot
of
the
concern
was
more
of
definitions
of
what
exactly
some
of
these
performance
measurements
mean,
and
there
was
a
concern
too
about
some
of
it.
Looked
like
there
was
actual
increases,
and
that
was
an
area
of
concern
of
the
TAC,
and
we
wanted
some
clarification
on
that.
E
E
N
So
so
you're
asking
how
the
targets
relate
to
to
actual
performance-
that's
correct
sure.
So,
first
I'll
preface
this
by
saying
we
we
all
obviously
experience
the
pandemic
that
kind
of
changed
our
targets
pretty
dramatically.
N
But
if
you
put
that
aside,
for
instance,
in
in
2021
I'm,
just
looking
at
some
numbers
on
my
screen
here
are
Interstate
level
of
travel
time.
Reliability,
measured
value
was
94.2
percent,
and
so
that
is
slightly
above
the
the
proposed
targets
that
you're
seeing
on
the
screen
there
for
the
the
non-interstate
level
of
travel
time
reliability.
N
We
were
around
96
percent
and
you
see
the
target
there
at
93
percent
and
then
for
truck
travel
time
reliability.
We
were
around
1.25
or
1.25,
it's
not
a
percent,
it's
an
index
and
in
this
case
it's
important
to
note
that,
with
the
percentage
of
the
lot
TR
metrics,
those
are
percentages
and
we'd
like
to
be
as
close
to
100.
So
higher
is
better
with
the
truck
travel
time
reliability
index
it's
a
similar
metric,
but
we're
looking
at
an
index
here,
and
so
in
this
case
you
want
to
be
lower.
E
A
E
E
H
E
E
N
Yeah,
so
we
the
the
targets
that
you
see
on
screen
the
the
basis
for
those
was
our
previous
set
of
targets.
N
So,
for
instance,
the
the
interstate
person
miles
reliable
metric,
our
previous
Target
there
two
years
was
90.5
and
four
year
was
92.8.
So
it's
an
increase
on
those.
N
But
it's
not
we're
not
setting
the
target
necessarily
based
on
how
we
did
last
year,
so
that
the
targets
themselves
are
increasing,
as
is
our
performance,
we're
doing
better
we're
just
not
setting
the
target
based
solely
on
last
year,
we're
kind
of
looking
at
five
or
six
years
of
historical
data
and
our
previous
targets
to
set
those
because
we
don't
want
to
get
into
a
situation.
N
So
there's
there's
some
historical
data
in
there
that
we're
looking
at
and
we're
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
conservative
with
our
targets
so
that
they're
they're,
showing
Improvement
but
they're,
still
attainable
for
us
as
an
agency,
especially
in
the
beginning.
We
didn't
have
a
feel
for
the
day
and
that's
that's
a
very
good
point.
I've
got
my
supervisor
in
the
room
with
me.
This
is
now
our
second
cycle
of
setting
these
targets,
so
we
we
set
them
a
little
bit
conservatively
at
the
beginning,
because.
H
E
A
lot
of
questions
and
if
anybody
else
wanted
to
ask
my
next
might
be,
but
I
won't
ask
it
is
what
happens
if
we
don't
meet
these
targets,
but
I
will
defer
to
the
group
because
I've
been
symbolizes.
A
G
So
I'm
still
a
little
confused
about
which
ones
we
are
actually
responsible
in
voting
on
and
I'm
told
that
the
first
three
don't
apply
to
us,
which
are
the
interstate,
the
non-interstate
and
truck
travel
great.
So
the
other
targets
that
we're
looking
at
I'm,
looking
just
at
the
emission
reduction
ones
and
I,
understand
that
we
are
voting
on
them
because
they
apply
to
the
entire
state.
N
So
I
appreciate
your
question.
Thank
you
and
just
to
clarify
those
targets
at
the
bottom
are
set
by
a
different
group
and
indot.
Unfortunately,
that's
not
something
that
I'm
involved
with
I'm
only
involved
with
really
the
top
three
targets
that
I've
talked
about
and
then
the
peak
hour.
Excessive
delay,
which
again
is,
is
not
applicable
to
Bloomington.
N
So
I
can
refer
you
as
a
follow-up
to
the
to
the
group
that
would
be
responsible
for
the
emissions,
but
that's
not
something.
I
have
information
to
be
able
to
provide
an
answer
on
today.
I
can
only
speak
to
the
level
of
travel
time,
reliability,
truck
travel
time,
reliability,
index
and
peak
hour.
Accessibility,
metrics,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
to
share
contact
information
for
for
the
group
that
you
could
ask
those
questions
to
directly
and.
N
Essentially,
what
is
done
is
we're
looking
at
all
of
the
segments
of
roadway
that
are
part
of
the
national
highway
system,
so,
for
instance,
in
the
Bloomington
area,
this
would
be
I-69.
This
would
be
a
portion
of
State
Road
37
and
this
would
be
State,
Road,
46
I
believe
so
it's
not
any
local
roads,
because
it's
a
federal,
the
federal
requirements
are
only
looking
at
the
national
highway
system.
N
What's
being
done,
is
we're
calculating
through
the
use
of
probe,
speed,
data
and
travel
time
information
on
all
of
these
segments
a
travel
time
index
looking
at
the
the
80th
percentile
and
the
50th
percentile
travel
time
so
kind
of
that
peak
hour.
Travel
time
divided
by
that
maybe
average
or
non-peak
travel
time
and
we're
doing
that
for
different
time
periods
throughout
the
day
and
then
what's
being
done
is,
is
basically
a
volume
and
length
weight
for
the
segments
and
then
across
the
entire
state.
N
And
so
what
what
you
end
up
getting
is
a
total
number
of
person
miles
and
that
person
miles
comes
in
there's
an
average
occupancy
for
each
vehicle
type.
Cars,
trucks,
buses,
that's
used,
and
then
we
know
the
volume
of
traffic
on
each
individual
segment,
and
so
there's
a
a
total
person
miles.
N
G
N
And
so
if
that
number
were
100,
for
instance,
every
segment
would
be
considered
reliable
when
you
wait
by
person
miles
and
and
volume
and
length.
Thank
you
does
that
kind
of
explain
it
I'm
trying
not
to
get
into
the
technical
details.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
nickel
question.
Thank.
I
You
Mr
chair
just
a
couple
items
to
follow
up
on
Mr
sieber
and
Miss
ryderbrand
brought
up
the
TAC
had
some
similar
concerns
and
again
I
I.
Think
some
of
the
big
issues
that
we
had
as
a
group
were.
Some
of
these
emissions
are
increasing
and
putting
us
in
a
difficult
situation
of
essentially
approving
an
increase
in
in
pollutants.
So
that
was
a
concern
and
also
just
looking
at
these
there's
no
definition
for
units
of
measure,
or
even
with
some
of
these.
I
You
know
emissions
are,
you
know
we
kind
of
know
casually
what
they
are,
but
just
kind
of
a
no
for
in
doubt,
it'd
be
nice
to
have
a
little
more
detailed
explanation
of
some
of
these
acronyms
or
especially
be
nice
to
see
units
of
measure,
because
we
honestly
have
no
idea
of
what
we're
trying
to
reduce
here,
and
you
know
for
us
to
vote
on
this.
There's
really
no
no
way
of
measuring.
You
know
what
we're
trying
to
implement
here.
So
that
was
some
of
our
concerns
is
just
you
know,
some
more
definition
on
this.
I
N
Understood
and
again
with
the
emissions
I
can
I
can
share
that
concern
with
the
appropriate
people
here
and
and
give
you
the
opportunity
to
ask
those
specific
questions
to
them
with
regard
to
the
top
three
metrics.
N
Those
are
are
really
unitless
measures.
The
top
two
are
percentages
percentage
of
the
network
by
by
distance
and
by
person
miles
that's
considered
reliable,
the
truck
travel
time.
Reliability
index
is
very
similar,
but
it
is
a
unitless
index
in
that
case,
so
there's
not
a
unit
to
be
associated
with
that,
but
it's
it's
very
similar
in
terms
of
calculation
to
the
level
of
travel
time.
Reliability.
N
The
only
difference
there
is
that
we're
doing
a
weighted
average
of
the
value
for
each
segment
and
we're
not
Computing
it
as
a
percentage,
we're
Computing
it
as
a
weighted
average
index
and
we're
only
looking
at
truck
traffic,
whereas
the
the
person
miles
reliable
measures
are
looking
at
at
all
traffic,
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
distinction
there,
but
but
definitely
understand
the
the
desire
for
units
and
I
think
in
the
future.
We
can
definitely
provide
some
additional
explanation
as
to
exactly
what
these
metrics
are.
Looking
for,.
A
Mr
Nichol,
if
I
could
jump
in
here
like
I
I,
do
sense
a
certain
reluctance
to
adopt
measures
that
the
people
voting
don't
understand.
Does
this
have
to
be
adopted
at
this
month's
meeting?
Thank.
B
A
G
Says
in
the
letter
the
letter
was
dated:
September
27th,
so
it
must
be
adopted
by
March
27th
of
2023
I
would
assume
and
the
the
bottom
line
is
hey.
We
can't
do
anything
about
it,
we're
not
going
to
change
anything.
This
is
a
Statewide
thing
and
it
doesn't
affect
us
specifically,
but
you
know
you
can
have
as
many
concerns
as
you
want
we're
not
going
to
change
these.
So
why
can't
we
just
vote
on
it
and
get
it
off
our
table.
A
A
So
I'm,
sorry
for
making
that
kind
of
orderly
inquiry
are
there
any
other
concerns
from
Members
about
voting
Now
versus
postponing
since
Ms
ryderabad
has
pointed
out
that
we
could
adopt
it
at
next
month's
meeting
for
members
online.
A
B
D
M
A
M
Pat
is
there
any
any
purchase
in
yes
approving
this,
but
including
comments
of
concern
over
points
that
that
we
brought
up
today,
just
in
recognition
that
that
there
is
in
this
locale
concern
over
metrics
that
do
not
necessarily
apply
to
us
directly,
but
but
do
indirectly
would
that
be
something
that
we
could
do
that
might
find
its
way
to
someone
that
would
recognize
that
we
have
these
concerns.
Yes,.
B
Absolutely
I
mean
technical
advisory
committee
wrote
us
two
paragraphs
on
the
next
metric,
not
this
one
yeah.
So
if,
if
you
have
language
that
you
want
to
add,
you
know
approve
we
adopt
or
we
we
endorse
these
targets.
A
G
You
Ms
reiter
band,
I,
guess
and
I
want
to
remind
the
members
as
well
as
the
public,
that
anyone
can
contact
indot
for
you
with
concerns
about
any
of
these
mandates
or
ordinances
coming
down
from
indot
or
from
the
federal
government
for
that
matter
to
indot,
which
is
one
of
these
things.
So
we
all
have
a
way
of
reflecting
our
concerns
that
we'll
get
to
someone
whether
this
can
be
changed
is
a
real
question.
I
would
doubt
it
because
this
is
going
to
all
of
the
mpos
across
the
state.
A
G
A
With
that,
is
there
a
motion
either
to
accept
these
settings
or
to
postpone
to
the
next
meeting.
A
In
a
second
can
we
have
a
pleaser
roll
call
vote,
Mr,
robling.
A
A
B
A
C
Actually,
I
do
not
see
anyone
from
the
public
very.
A
L
F
G
A
B
A
B
Okay,
these
are
the
annual
performance
safety,
Target
declarations
for
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation.
These
are
Statewide
the
numbers,
the
number
of
fatalities
which
are
bolded
in
yellow.
Here
he
entered
94
rated
fatalities,
1.088
number
of
suspected
injuries,
three
three
thousand
348
rate
of
suspected
4.068
number
of
non-motorized
fatalities
through
399..
Now
in
the
Excel
spreadsheet,
below
you.
B
B
and
that
will
show
you
how
they've
arrived
at
the
numbers
of
894
the
for
the
total
fatalities,
the
rate
based
on
the
vehicle
miles
traveled.
These
are
hundreds
of
millions
of
vehicle
miles,
traveled
the
rate
of
fatalities.
They
yeah,
which
I
just
mentioned
the
number
of
serious
injuries,
which
is
an
actual
number,
then
the
rate
of
serious
injuries
per
100
million
vehicle
miles
traveled
and
then
the
number
of
non-motorized
fatalities
and
serious
injuries,
non-motorized
fatalities
and
serious
injuries
includes
pedestrian,
bicycle
and
scooter.
B
Oh,
and
it
also
includes
buggy,
horse
and
buggy
in
certain
areas
of
the
state.
Again
these
these
calculations,
I
know
there
was
a
in
technical
advisory
committee.
There
was
consider
considerable
discussion
about
the
fact
of
why
don't
we
have
Vision
zero?
That's
the
state
of
Indiana
the
state
of
Indiana
and
has
to
adopt
Vision
zero.
I
must
say:
we've
had
discussion
of
vision,
zero
ourselves,
but
we
have
not
adopted
it
either,
but
yeah
the
idea
is
get
to
zero.
B
How
do
you
get
to
zero
and-
and
the
other
question
that
we
continually
have
is?
Why
are
the
numbers
climbing?
Well,
the
numbers
are
climbing,
because
they're
highly
correlated
with
employment
I
think
the
R
square
is
something
like
0.89
in
terms
of
employment,
the
more
people
we
have
working,
the
more
they're
driving
more
people.
We
have
working
the
more
people
we
have
driving
the
more
they're
driving
the
more
the
exposure
factor
is
and
more
the
greater.
B
The
probability
is
of
having
a
crash,
much
less
a
fatal
crash
or
a
serious
injury
crash
or
a
non-motorized
crash
of
some
type
or
another,
and
then
I'll
I'll
just
stop
here
and
answer
your
questions.
If
you've
got
any.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
questions
for
Mr,
Martin,
Mr
McKim
thank.
K
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
if
it's
a
pedestrian
pedestrian,
it's
not
reported
if
it's
a
scooter,
pedestrian,
that's
not
reported
if
it's
a
bicycle
pedestrian,
that's
not
reported
either.
So
these
are
all
involving
automobiles,
automobiles
or
trucks,
or
some
sort
of
mechanized
vehicles
of
some
type.
Thank.
I
Just
a
quick
one-
and
this
was
mentioned-
but
again
just
from
our
Tac
discussion.
You
know
we
certainly
respect
that.
These
are
projections
and
you
know
kind
of
estimates.
But
again
these
are
fatalities
and
major
injuries
and
serious
injuries,
so
I
think
just
the
intent
should
be.
You
know
zero
for
both
of
those,
so
you
know
well.
We
appreciate
what
these
are
can
I.
Keep
that
in
mind
thanks.
B
And
and
I
might
note,
the
Department
of
Transportation
the
the
office
Traffic
Safety
is
very
concerned
about
the
alarming
increase
in
number
of
non-motorized
fatalities
and
serious
injuries
and
they've
created
a
an
advisory
working
group
with
all
of
the
mpos.
B
The
the
working
group
is
the
what's
it
called
vulnerable
Road
users,
Advisory
Group,
will
be
meeting
starting
next
month,
trying
to
come
up
with
trying
to
identify
what
are
the
metrics
behind
this.
Why
is
it
happening
number
one
and
then
number
two.
What
can
we
do
about
it,
but
so
I'll
give
a
report
on
that.
We
volunteered
for
that
committee,
so
I'll
be
giving
you
updates
on
that
through
the
remainder
of
this
year.
As
that
committee
is
active,.
M
G
Is
also
it's
alarming
to
know
that
our
country
has
the
highest
in
the
world
roadway
fatalities,
Bar
None,
and
that
as
a
as
a
nation,
we
need
to
look
at
this
very
seriously
and
try
to
come
in
line
with
intelligent
industrialized
nations
that
are
looking
how
to
diminish
and
reduce
and
eliminate
roadway
deaths,
because
ours
are
rising.
I
also
want
to
say
to
the
members
of
this
policy
committee
that
indeed
targets
during
pandemic
were
not
high
enough
and,
as
we
saw,
people
thought.
G
Oh
I
have
the
whole
road
to
myself
and
they
went
out
and
did
stupid
things
and
our
death
rates
and
fatality
rates
across
the
state
went
up.
We
did
not
meet
our
Target
and
therefore
we
are
being
penalized,
so
we
have
lost
roadway
funding
and
it
is
going
into
safety
funding
rather
than
taking
care
of
our
roads
in
ways
other
than
safety
roadway
management.
So
there
are
actual
repercussions
to
not
creating
sufficient
leeway
in
our
targeting
and
that
I'm
done.
M
Just
a
a
point
of
interest:
Mr
Martin
in
this
metric
is
there
consideration
given
for
the
current
and
and
Future
Vehicle
Safety
technology
as
it
applies
across
the
the
vehicle
Spectrum,
you
know
you
buy,
you
can
buy
a
vehicle
with
a
lot
of
safety
packages.
These
days
that
sense
things
react
to
those
senses,
Etc
pedestrian
being
one
of
them
or
other
vehicles.
Is
there?
Is
there
an
intersection
with
these
targets
related
to
that
type
of
of
increased
safety?
Possibility,
not.
M
Think
that's
a
real
important
thing
and
and
I
don't
I'm,
not
in
agreement
with
these.
These
you
know
counting
death
metrics,
but
nonetheless,
in
addition
to
spending
billions
on
on
roadway
improvements
to
drop
these
numbers,
I
think
the
you
know,
the
investment
by
the
buying
public
and
and
the
production
private
sector
to
increase
safety
needs
to
be
part
of
some
some
Metric
and.
B
They
failed
to
achieve
that
Target.
In
other
words,
fatalities
exceeded
the
target.
So
therefore,
a
penalty
will
automatically
kick
in
for
the
state
of
Indiana.
In
that
the
surface
Transportation
block
grants
the
biggest
biggest
source
of
funding
for
the
state
that
will
be
reduced
in
a
penalty
format
and
the
amount
of
funding
available
for
Highway
Safety
Improvement
projects
will
increase,
so
you'll
see
fewer
dollars
spent
on
what
I
would
call
capacity,
expansion
and
you'll
see
more
dollars
directed
toward
Highway
Safety.
B
That's
an
automatic
feature
of
the
law
that
will
that
will
kick
in
with
the
new
federal
fiscal
year,
so
we
may,
and
and
since
we
receive
our
funds
in
trickle-down
format.
Also,
we
may
see
that
ourselves,
where
the
amount
of
funds
available
in
One
Fund
will
decrease
in
the
amount
of
funds
available
for
safety
will
increase.
H
B
That
that
that's
all
I
can
say
the
the
the
other
thing
too,
is
that
we've
had
a
population
growth
in
the
state
of
Indiana
population
growth,
more
people
driving
more
people,
employment,
unemployment
is
at
a
record
low
somewhere
around
three
percent
I
I
think
the
number
in
Indiana
is
somewhere
around
2.8,
2.9
percent
historic
low
for
40
some
years
and
and
that's
to
use
the
term.
It's
that's.
What's
driving
the
numbers
really
right
now,.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
horn
I
have
a
question
about
the
number
of
non-motorized
fatalities
and
serious
injuries.
The
final
line
does
that
include
motorcycles.
B
Motor
motorized
bicycles,
electric
by
e-bikes,
do
not
count
and
we've
neither
do
scooters
and
we've
lobbied
for
the
last
two
years
to
have
scooters
added
and
e-bikes
added,
but
the
Indiana
State
Police
would
have
to
reformulate
their
crash
form
their
crash
form
and
reformulate
the
entire
system.
So
far
that
hasn't
been
accepted
by
the
Criminal
Justice
Institute
for
the
state
of
Indiana.
So.
B
A
Yes,
yeah,
that's
not
clearly
explained
on
I
was
doing
some
research
on
National
sites
to
find
out
where
these
numbers
came
from
and
it
was
very
difficult
to
determine
whether
there
were
any
accidents
like
you
described
that
and
did
not
involve
the
licensed
vehicle.
But
it's
nice
to
know
that
I
mean
it
would
be
helpful.
I
think
if
they
put
that
in
their
definition
of
this
term
well.
B
And
serious
injuries
are
another
issue
too,
because
serious
injuries
are
reported
on
the
at
the
at
the
site
of
the
crash
itself
and
if
somebody's
transported
to
a
hospital,
that's
called
a
serious
injury
or
somebody
goes
to
the
hospital.
That's
serious
injury
now
that
serious
injury
may
end
up
having
a
fatality
at
a
later
date,
but
that's
something
that's
not
reflected
in
the
record
itself.
A
A
A
We
have
Motion
in
a
second,
since
we
have
no
members
of
the
public
available
either
online
or
in
the
room.
We'll
go
straight
to
a
vote
because
we
have
a
roll
call
vote.
Mr,
robling.
A
J
C
M
C
A
Very
good
all
right.
We
move
on
now
to
tip
amendments
Mr,
Martin,.
B
B
All
right:
well,
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
read
through
each
one
of
the
each
one
of
the
amendments.
First,
one
we
have
is
designation,
number
2101,
774
secondary
locations.
These
are
locations
along
the
interstate
highway
system
that
will
receive
new
wrong
way,
signage
with
LED
lights.
We
have
two
locations
here
in
Monroe
County.
First
one
is
at
Fullerton
Pike
Interstate
69
in
Fullerton
Pike
and
then
also
Interstate
69
steroid
45
at
West,
Bloomfield
Road,
where
we
have
we've
had
incidents
of
people
entering
the
ramp
in
the
wrong
direction.
B
It's
there's
some
comments
that
are
noted
out
here
on
the
far
right
hand,
column,
but
the
first
thing
I
just
want
to
do
is
I
just
want
to
amount.
Note
notify
you,
the
amounts
here
we're
talking
the
first
one
Interstate
69
at
Fullerton
Pike
and
yeah
Interstate
69,
Fullerton,
Park,
sixty
thousand
dollars.
Second,
one
Interstate
69
and
State
Road
45
West
Bloomfield
Road
in
the
north
and
southbound
Lanes,
we're
talking
again
sixty
thousand
dollars.
B
Also
noted
those
were
24
7,
those
LED
lights
will
be
operating,
24,
7.,
okay,
the
second
application
I
have
is
from
the
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation
project
designation,
number
1700198.
B
F
B
F
B
I
apologize,
I,
didn't
proof.
This
I
just
assumed
that
it
was
correct.
Next
one
is
Indiana
Department
of
Transportation
project,
designation,
2101
785.
This
is
Seymour
District
lighting.
This
is
repair
replace
lighting
within
at
various
locations
in
the
Seymour
district,
with
LED
lighting
no
specified
location.
This
is
an
as
needed
project
we're
looking
at
fiscal
year,
24
where
the
construction
would
occur.
A
G
A
B
J
J
J
Well,
it
has
to
do
actually
with
these
lights
and
LED
lights,
and
this
light
replacement
program.
I
find
and
I
I
know
that
other
European
countries
actually
have
policies
related
to
this.
The
brightness
of
those
LED
lights
constrict
the
pupils
and
it
eliminates
a
certain
field
of
vision
that
actually
can
make
your
peripheral
vision
more
narrow
and
I
question
number
one:
the
use
of
these
bright
LED
lights
and
flashing
lights
like
this
and
whether
or
not
they're
actually
as
as
safe
and
then
number
two.
As
far
as
placement.
J
Just
in
my
own
personal
experience
on
State
Road
446,
we
used
to
have
one
very
functional,
four-way,
yellow
flashing
light
that
had
the
effect
of
slowing
traffic
down
in
all
directions
as
the
traffic
approached,
but
that's
been
replaced.
Ironically,
with
like,
like
six
flashing
lights,
I
mean
it
is
like
the
epitome
of
government
gone
astray,
and
none
of
them
are
exactly
over
the
actual
intersection
where
the
danger
exists.
They're
on
the
approach
to
the
intersection
on
all
four
sides.
J
J
That's
that's.
Certainly
an
important
issue.
I
know
that
at
my
corner,
at
446
and
Moore's
Pike
and
lampkins
Ridge
Road,
all
the
neighbors
feel
a
lot
less
safe
with
the
new
configuration
and
so
I
just
have
a
lot
more
questions
about
it
than
I
have
support
for
these
LED
lights.
That
can
be
very
blinding
at.
A
Least
they
are
to
me
Miss
Clements.
Thank
you
for.
Let
me
let
me
convert
your
statement
to
a
question.
Can
I
ask
staff
or
our
mpo
representative
or
the
representative,
to
comment
on
her
her
concerns
about
this
item?
Three
I.
B
F
F
A
A
Let's
move
on!
Let's
finish
the
presentations
go
to
item
four
Mr
Martin.
B
Okay,
our
next
next
project
is
from
Monroe
County.
This
is
the
Vernal
Pike
Connector
Road
project,
designation,
1702957
and
1900
406.
This
is
in
the
transport
fiscal
year,
2023
call
for
projects
for
carbon
reduction
funds
and
protect
funds.
The
application
shows
the
you
know.
The
application,
which
is
on
page
112
of
123,
shows
the
addition
of
carbon
reduction
funds
in
the
total
of
297
404.60.
B
What
this
did
was
this
reduced
the
local
match,
because
Monroe
County
dramatically
overmatched
on
this
project,
so
we're
adding
Federal
they're,
adding
federal
funds
into
the
project.
Total
cost
of
the
project
will
remain
the
same
in
terms
of
construction
in
fiscal
year
23,
but
it's
just
the
addition
of
federal
funds
and
reducing
local
matching
funds
on
that.
B
The
next
Amendment
we
have
is
from
the
city
of
Bloomington.
This
is
for
the
First
Street
reconstruction
project,
I.
Believe
it's
from
Fairview
to
college.
The
project
designation
number
is
1900.
B
B
L
So
I
just
have
a
quick
question
about
this
project.
The
wedding
was
today
and
it
was
pulled
from
the
the
leading
list
if
these
stb
funds
and
STP
and
the
CRP
funds
are
not
used
and
they
and
there's
not
a
new
letting
date
before
a
new
fiscal
year.
I
assume
we
just
lose
those
funds.
A
E
Yeah
the
the
First
Street
project
on
this
form
on
the
page
before
that
had
all
the
Ballard
figures
they'll
also
see
that
we
changed
the
anticipated
wedding
date
to
May,
so
it
still
will
be
in
this
fiscal
year.
E
L
Okay,
I
guess
I
just
concerns
me
because
I
believe
we
lost
some
funding
last
year
that
wasn't
used
and
I
just
hope
that,
if
somebody's
not
going
to
use
all
the
funding
that
we
can
use
it
and
move
it
to
another
entity
that
could
use
it
for
funding
purposes.
E
A
A
Okay,
I
was
going
to
ask
in
general,
so
I
understand,
projects
that
involve
State
highways.
I
was
a
little
surprised
to
hear
that
state,
roads,
45
and
48
were
not
considered
part
of
the
the
national
highway
system
being
State
highways,
but
these
are
projects
entirely
within
the
city
and
they're
not
are
they
related
to
indot
projects?
Well,.
B
We
had
a
quarterly
tracking
project
meeting
on
Tuesday
I,
believe
it
was
this
week
Lisa
this
occurred
after
you
had
already
left
the
meeting
where
we
were
informed
that
the
this
project
had
been
moved
from
letting
this
month
to
May
to
the
May
letting
and
the
the
amounts
here
are
shown
are
correct,
and
as
of
last
year,
at
the
end
of
the
last
fiscal
year,
we
left
only
I
believe
it
was
five
thousand
dollars
on
the
table
because
we
reallocated
everything
in
terms
of
using
the
iija
money
for
Monroe,
County
and
also
for
city
of
Bloomington.
B
We
had
an
application
in
there
for
Rural
Transit.
That
was
that
was
the
only
one
that
was
not
approved,
and
that
was
where
we
left
the
five
thousand
dollars
on
the
table.
So
essentially
we
got
as
close
to
zero
as
we
could
get
last
year.
Yeah,
we
don't
anticipate
leaving
any
money
on
the
table
this
year
at
all,
we'll
do
everything
we
can
thanks.
J
J
If
a
section
of
High
Street
involved
the
Covenant
actor
cemetery
and
if
so,
has
his.
A
Martin
so,
like
I,
didn't,
didn't
quite
get
an
understanding
of
my
question
about
like
how
are
they
these
aren't
Highway
projects?
Why
are
why
are
they
in
the
mpo
for
approval
at
all
like?
Why
aren't
they
entirely
locally
they're.
A
B
B
We
decided
to
be
prudent
and
show
the
committee,
the
the
modification,
the
Committees
I'm,
sorry,
the
modifications
here
and-
and
so
we
did-
that
in
an
amendment
form.
Thank.
B
The
last
project
we
have
for
Amendment
into
the
transportation
Improvement
program
is
from
the
city
of
Bloomington.
This
one
involves
the
High
Street
intersection,
modernization
and
multi-use
path,
project,
project,
designation,
number,
2200020.
B
And
this
involves
High
Street
from
Arden
Drive
yeah
High
Street
from
Arden
Drive,
and
we
have
the
addition
here
of
carbon
reduction.
This
is
on
page
121
of
123
in
the
packet
we
have
the
addition
of
carbon
reduction
program
funds
here
of
250
000
400,
yeah,
250,
480
and
then
group,
three
STP
BG
funds,
surface
Transportation,
block
grants,
439
720
and
the
local
match
on
that
was
reduced
as
a
result
of
the
project
and
that's
172,
550
total
cost
of
the
project,
and
this
is
only
for
preliminary
Engineering.
B
J
Wonder
if
this
involves
any
alterations
to
the
Covenant
or
Cemetery.
E
That's
a
good
question
honestly
at
this
point.
The
project
has
yet
to
be
initiated,
we're
still
waiting
on
the
federal
funds
to
show
up
in
the
states
Transportation
Improvement
program,
so
that
we
can
officially
issue
notice
to
proceed
to
start
the
design
phase
of
the
project.
So
it's
too
early
to
really
say
what
impacts
will
be.
That
being
said,
I
certainly
hope
that
we
minimize
or
or
really
avoid,
impacts
anybody
that
I'm
sure
the
county
and
others
that
have
gone
through
Federal
funding
projects.
J
You
been
coordinating
with
the
historic
preservation
committee
in
advance,
because
I
mean
it
looks
impossible
to
me
that
you
would
not
be
altering
the
covenanter
cemetery,
and
that
is
one
of
our
prized
areas.
We.
L
Ms
Ridge
go
ahead,
I
know
when
we
submitted
our
applications.
I
I
just
want
to
thank
Andrew
and
his
staff
for
modifying
your
original
applications
and
and
splitting
the
CRP
funds.
So
the
county
appreciates
that.
A
Further
questions
or
comments
on
item
six,
seeing
none,
it
looks
like
we
we
presented
them
all
at
once.
Do
we
need
to
vote
on
them
separately?
We
get.
We
can
that's.
A
G
A
Of
them
have
there
have
been
enough
concerns
expressed
that
I
think
the
the
PC
would
support
postponement
of
those
two
items.
G
G
Yes
correct,
but
it
does
not
affect
our
voting
and
approving
the
amendment.
Is
that
correct.
K
Yeah
I
would
just
say
that
I
believe
that
the
date
is
correct
in
the
packet
as
it's
as
it's
presented
here.
Great
and.
A
G
A
Motion
in
a
second
is
there
any
final
comment
from
Members
before
we
go
to
a
vote
from
Members
online
to
my
left
to
my
right,
Mr
ralding.
Will
you
please
call
the
roll
on
the
motion
to
accept
those
four
amendments.
C
F
I
A
C
C
H
A
Right
I
take
that
back.
That
vote
is
ten
one
in
favor
of
those
amendments
and
now
I
need
to
entertain
a
motion
to
postpone
items.
Two
and
three.
G
I
moved
to
postpone
item
the
amendments
is
listed
for
the
the
26th
tip
amendments.
That
would
be
no
items
number
two
and
three
Des
numbers:
one:
seven:
zero,
zero,
one,
nine
eight
and
just
number
one:
two
one:
zero
one:
seven,
eight
five.
I
D
A
D
C
Panic,
yes,
comments.
A
Yes
and
that
postponement
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
all.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
online
Mr
robling
I?
Can't
we
can't
see
from
here
yeah.
A
All
right-
but
this
is
the
time
now
for
public
comment
on
matters
not
included
on
the
agenda,
since
there
are
no
members
of
the
public
in
the
room.
If
there's
anybody
online,
who
would
like
to
speak
on
an
item
that
was
not
on
their
agenda
now's
our
opportunity,
if
they'd
like
to
they,
can
raise
their
hand
in
Zoom.
A
I
I
A
G
B
I'll
have
to
find
an
expert
from
the
Department
of
Transportation.
It.
B
D
B
H
K
My
right,
okay,
yeah,
I'm,
sorry
as
yeah
we're
done
with
that.
Okay,
yes,
so
this
is
kind
of
in
the.
This
is
really
a
comment
in
the
context
of
a
a
possible
suggestion
for
a
future
topic
that
we
heard
earlier,
which
was
an
explanation
of
the
those
emissions
reductions
targets
that
there
were
some
concern
about
it.
It
actually
in
looking
at
the
definitions
in
the
law.
They
they
are.
Actually
they
are
actually
those
numbers
represent
reductions,
and
so
going
up
is
actually
good
going
up
is
what
we
want.
K
A
Are
all
good
suggestions
for
the
next
meeting?
If
you
can
take
another
that
Mr
Martin
weekend,
we
can
discuss
it
for
preparing
for
the
next
meeting.
A
Any
other
topics
for
future
meetings
from
Members
online.
E
Maybe
just
a
really
quick
comment
for
when
we
have
the
conversation
about
LED
lights.
Just
for
me,
a
clarification
is,
are
we
talking
about
like
street.
H
E
A
Okay,
I
mean
I
can
speak
with
the
VIN
digital
members
to
get
clarification
about
what
exactly
everybody
wants.
I'm
happy
to
do
that
afterwards,
I
was
trying
to
get
this
meeting
done
any
other
members
online
with
a
topic
for
future
suggestions
or
to
my
right.
A
Seeing
none
I
believe
that
completes
our
oh.
We
have
upcoming
meetings,
I'll
just
read
them
off.
The
technical
advisory
committee
meets
February
22nd
at
10
A.M
in
a
hybrid
format.
The
citizens
advisory
committee
meets
the
same
day
at
6,
30
PM,
also
hybrid
format,
and
the
next
meeting
of
this
body
is
March
10th
at
1,
30
PM,
also
in
hybrid
format.
As
today.
With
that
there's
no
other
objections,
I'll
call
this
meeting
adjourned.