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E
I'm
here
andrew
seabor,
serving
as
proxy
for
mayor
hamilton,
okay.
A
I
need
item
two
is
approval
of
the
agenda.
I
move
approval
of
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting.
A
G
Normally,
we
have
an
option
for.
I
J
J
That
is
10-0
right
motion
passes
item
three
approval
of
the
minutes
of
september
10
2021.
E
Presents
there
may
have
been
others,
but
I
know
don
griffin
is
listed
and
he
was
not
present
at.
E
F
E
J
A
To
report
at
this
time,
reports
from
officers
and
or
committees,
citizens,
advisory
committee.
B
Policy
committee
approve
the
addition
to
that
was
eliminated
in
our
last
meeting.
The
addition.
H
H
A
H
H
H
H
H
Accounting
work
in
november
also,
but
anyway,
everybody
will
have
a
formal
notice
to
proceed.
H
A
H
A
14Th
street
extension
14th
street
extension
staff
knows
nothing
about
the
14th.
H
H
H
Nothing
more
may
I
ask
is
that
I
believe
it's
listed
in
our
long-range
transportation
plan.
F
Is
it
would
it
be
eligible
for
any
federal
funding?
I
don't
know
depends
on
if
they
wanted
to.
H
The
vice
chair
of
the
citizens
advisory
committee-
oh
okay,.
A
Seeing
none
an
iu
health
hospital
opening
november
2021.
Okay,
I
reached
out
to
iu
health.
H
H
H
H
H
Planting
plants
around
the
iu
health
sign
welcome
this
week,
as
they
do
so.
H
As
well,
I'd
heard
that
the
date
for
the
big
move
was
december
5th,
but
you
know.
H
A
stage
move,
if
you
will
some
assets,
will
be
up
and
running
at
the
facility,
while
the
other.
H
F
H
Well,
it's
number
one
congested
number.
Two:
it's
a
service.
H
A
G
That
the
only
entrance
to
the
hospital
is
going
to
be
off
of
highway
the
bypass
and
that
another.
G
Traffic
light
is
going
to
go
into
stopping
traffic
on
the
bypass
with
the
traffic
already.
G
That
go
across
the
highway
46
five
times
a
day,
there's
game
day.
Traffic
and
we've
had
a
briefing.
G
Problems
in
the
analysis
that
has
been
done,
that
it
doesn't
include
up
to
the
minute
building.
G
State
road,
40,
six
bypass
and
the
14th
street
intersection
and
does
not
include
pete
ellis
drive.
G
Right
now
or
if
it
is
not
transparent
at
the
moment
that
there
are
plans
that
must
include.
G
Must
include
these
points
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
transparency
once.
A
Steve
yeah,
I
take
you,
know
interest
in
ms
clement's
concerns.
I
guess
I
would
ask.
K
To
whom,
specifically,
is
she
is
appealing
I
mean,
do
we
have
as
an
npo
a
mechanism
for.
H
H
K
But
I
mean
these
are
relevant
here,
because
the
facilities
transcend
the.
K
City
or
the
county,
their
their
state
or
federal,
funded
roads
is
that
yeah
that's
right.
H
By
iu
health,
that's
not
a
better
that
wasn't
a
federal
aid
project
whatsoever.
K
And
just
again,
for
my
identification,
is
it
because
iu
health
is
a
multi-billion
dollar.
H
No,
it's
because
andy
any
entity
making
a
driveway
cut
onto
a
state
facility
must
pay
for.
H
K
If
the
mpo
is
going
to
take
any
action
beyond
hearing
from
the
entities
that
you
mentioned,.
K
So
I
you
know
think
there
may
be
some
merit
to
those
concerns.
I
just
I
don't
understand
the.
K
Npo
well
enough,
yet
to
to
know
how
we
go
about
you
know
embodying
them.
That's
all
thanks.
H
H
K
Ms
clements,
ms
clements,
do
you
think
that
there
should
be
a
broader
traffic
study
or
that
the.
K
Whatever
traffic
study
is
currently
engaged
should
be
set
aside
and
a
large
one
commissioned.
I
I.
G
Combined
traffic
study,
I
think
colonel
scott
ferris
has
indicated
that
through
his.
G
And
that
there
should
be
a
centralized
government
body
to
deconflict
area-wide.
G
Point
of
contact
that
indot
and
the
mpo
and
the
other
agencies
could
communicate
with
so.
K
The
authority
to
make
changes
in
such
a
study
on
in-dot
managed
roads,
which
is
pretty
much
the.
K
To
45
in
pdl
drive
the
I
was
going
to
say
iu
health
already
has
a
traffic
study.
A
Might
ask,
is
one
area
that
I
see
that
has
been
a
big
concern?
Is
the
different
new
projects.
A
That
the
city
of
bloomington
has
approved
in
the
area
increasing
the
traffic
movements
was
that.
A
Traffic
study
will
look
at
future
analysis
of
what
they
predict
might
happen
in
an
area.
A
To
to
the
questions
or
concerns
on
how
the
traffic
studies
work
on
on
projects
within
dot.
D
When
we,
when
we
propose
a
project,
we
have
to
do
some
traffic
forecasting.
D
For
any
any
state
project
we
do
and
we're
gonna
take.
You
know
actual
traffic
accounts.
We
also
do
a.
B
B
B
B
H
C
C
To
get
there
when
those
kinds
of
things
happen
and
as
some
of
the
others
have
alluded
to.
C
Doing
other
construction
we
hope-
and
so
that's
going
to
change
things
on
our.
L
L
L
Wondering
if
some
of
that
could
be
used
to
be
more
proactive
about
gathering
information
on
these.
L
Projects,
things
like
you,
know,
and
resources
that
are
relevant
and
then
maybe
just
sharing.
L
Those
with
the
public
is
that
something
that's
possible.
We
yeah,
I
mean
the
mpo
has
capability
of.
H
L
Folks
who
live
on
the
east
side
and
are
directly
impacted-
and
I
think
just.
L
But
it's
certainly
appropriate
that
we
provide,
updates
and
and
then
direct
people
with
more.
L
Specific
information
needs
maybe
to
the
customer
service
hotline
and
it
might
be
something.
H
A
So
let
me
ask
this
patrick
as
as
being
mpo
and
such
so
I
know,
since
this
has
come
out.
A
A
That's
something
that
you
it's
that
something
that
you
guys
could
take
on
to
you
know
we
yeah.
A
Yeah
yeah
everybody
gets
public
hearing
notices
and
that
way,
it
kind
of
people
have
a
one.
A
H
A
Stay
in
contact
with
ndot,
one
thing
that
I
find
is
signing
up
at
their
at
their
website
for
the.
A
Email
notifications,
they
they
send
out
every
every
day.
I
think
I
get
something
from
ndot.
A
A
A
But
I
know
margaret
and
then
steve
has
his
their
hands
up.
Well,
yes,
I
I
appreciate
all.
G
The
information
about
staying
in
touch
with
indot
and
the
requests
that
we
take
it.
G
G
Has
been
communicating
within
indoct
about
this
project
and
his
level
of
knowledge
about
it.
G
Is
quite
high
and
in
fact
I
mean
we're
kind
of
tossing
a
hot
potato
around
here
about.
G
What
we've
been
discussing
for
four
years-
I
mean
this-
I
don't
remember
the
group,
but
I
believe.
G
G
G
G
G
Is
able
to
coordinate
this
project
and
who
is
able
to
stay
in
touch
with
indot?
Who
is
able
to.
G
Bring
different
community
sources
to
resources
to
bear
exactly
on
this
project,
so
I
don't.
G
G
And
give
up
on
the
idea
of
giving
engineers
and
a
technical
advisor?
Can
we
hear
from
mr
wallman.
K
D
End
up
you
know:
indot
is
a
big
organization
and
to
pat's
point
even
contacting
one.
D
D
Answered
and
get
them
answered
correctly,
so
please
feel
free
to
use
that
as
much
as
you
can.
D
A
People
feel
like
they're
not
being
heard
and
maybe
that
I'm
not
an
engineer
but.
D
We're
making
a
plan
right
so
but
sometimes
things
come
up
like
you
know,
it
was
brought
up.
D
Sometimes
those
plans
change,
you
know
being
involved
in
the
in
the
in
the
public
involvement.
D
D
D
The
citizens
citizenry
have
that
can
make
that
project
a
lot
better,
so
always
always
send.
D
D
Pete
ellis-
and
that
was,
I
think,
was
on
the
amendment
that
just
was
proposed
last
month.
Right.
D
So
that's
something
a
balancing
act,
we're
always
working
with,
because
you
know
bloomington
is.
D
K
But
I
had
my
hand
up,
and
I
wanted
to
ask
mr
waldman
some
questions
thirsty.
Thank
you,
mr.
K
Process
in
general,
you
know
the
the
hospital
basically
only
had
to
appeal
to
indot
to
get
its.
K
K
Means
of
access
for
the
public
to
to
get
to
it.
I
think
that
I
and
several
other
members
of
the.
K
We
have
people
muted,
I
don't
know
what's
going
on,
but
I
think
what
you're
hearing
is.
K
Like
we
are,
there
is
a
power
I
think
the
mpo
has,
and
that
is
to
not
approve.
K
Tips
that
would
enable
federal
funding
to
flow
unless
ndot
is
you
know
more
serious
about.
K
Taking
local
concerns
into
account,
I
know
that
you
have
other.
You
know
that.
K
Ms
clement's
concerns
require
some
kind
of
executive
action
on
our
part.
We
want
to
commission.
K
A
new
traffic
study,
for
example,
but
I
can
tell
you,
as
a
representative
of
the
city
of
bloomington,.
K
K
D
K
Reports
but
does
not
necessarily
collaborate
with
the
local
body
in
question.
I
I
think
I
take
a.
D
The
project
you
know
they
had
travel
lanes
from
45
46
from
a
bypass
to
pete
ellis.
D
D
Elements
in
multimodal
elements
in
in
our
design,
so
I
wouldn't
say
that
we've
turned.
D
So
I
I'm
not
seeing
where
that's
coming
from.
I
do
realize
that
there's
frustration.
D
There's
a
lot
of
construction
work
out
there
statewide,
you
know,
but
that's
understandable.
K
Of
the
concerns
of
this
body,
as
started
by
ms
clements
and
echoed
by
others,.
K
Tend
to
be,
I
don't
want
to,
I
don't
want
to
over
characterize
this
or
be
it.
I
want
to
use.
K
K
We
have
a
lot
of.
We
have
an
obligation
to
focus
our
concerns
more
specifically,
if
we
can't.
K
Just
say
well
that
our
traffic
study
isn't
good
enough.
You
know
we
have
to
coordinate.
F
F
F
Will
be
a
heavily
traveled
corridor
and
then
the
other
intersection
is
the
one
at
the
state.
F
F
F
A
Thank
you,
kent
kate,
do
you
have
your
hand
up
again
or
was
that
from
before?
No,
this
is
again.
L
And
I
I
don't
want
to
belabor
too
many
things,
but
what
I'm
hearing-
and
I
think
mr
woman.
L
By
you
know,
just
letting
it
happen
organically,
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing.
L
L
L
A
The
iu
health
opening
steve
yeah-
I
I
wonder
if
maybe
we
can't
devote
a
portion
of
a.
K
K
One
reason
that
this
body
exists
at
least
that's
my
understanding
of
it,
but
perhaps
we
can.
K
Take
because
it
it
seems
clear
to
me
that
there's
not
a
universal
understanding
of
the
mpos.
K
Express
that,
as
the
chair,
that's
something
you
can
coordinate,
but
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else.
K
Agrees
with
this,
but
that
that's
something
I'd
be
interested
in.
I
agree,
and
I
also
don't
want
us.
A
A
More
experts
to
look
over
these
projects
and
to
make
recommendations
and
to
either
support
the.
A
K
B
B
401
level
and
because
pat's
got
a
tremendous
amount
of.
B
Pat,
I
wonder
how
you
feel
about
doing
a
second
level
if
people
have
actually
listened
to
your.
B
H
Advisory
committee
last
month,
so
we're
we're
conducting.
We
do
we
offer
ryan
and
I
offer.
H
Individual
briefings,
if
people
want
individual
briefings
we're
available
to
do
that.
H
With
the
electronic
policy
soon
and
then
we
also
have
what
I
would
call
a
communication.
H
H
Iu
health-
please
it's
it's
not
iu.
Health
isn't
in
our
wheelhouse,
is
what
I
want
to
say.
H
Every
year
and
and
a
lot
of
that
is
formulaic
in
that
they
tell
us
what
we're
going
to
do
and
we.
A
I'm
moving
to
old
business,
bloomington
monroe
county
mpo
fiscal
years,
2020.
J
That
was
the
beginning
all
right
as
presented
last
month.
Is
this
added
travel
in
on
state
route,
45.
J
J
Committee
and
the
citizens
advisory
committee,
with
their
second
recommendation,
or
I
should.
J
J
For
the
amount
of
2
million
six
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars-
and
there
has
been.
J
To
you
all
again
with
the
added
documents
below
that
include
all
the
early
coordination
letters.
J
So
hopefully,
these
these
letters
have
provided
you
with
the
information
that
you
all
need.
H
Any
social,
economic
and
environmental
needs-
and
we
received
this,
like
I
said
in
december,
of
2020.
H
Which
shows
that
indock
was
working
on
the
project
last
year
and
this
is
being
done
with
well.
This.
H
Phase
is
being
done
with
100
state
funds
and
then
the
proposed
amendment
that
is
being
requested.
H
That
were
prioritized
ahead
of
this
project
so
that
that's
all
I
wanted
to
know.
D
I'll
I'll
just
add
just
to
echo
pat's
comments.
There.
B
Trying
to
find
it
the
additional
lane.
A
I'll
second,
that-
and
we
have
a
second
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
board.
F
H
H
Alternative
maintenance
of
traffic
implementing
the
detour
route
and
then
maintenance.
H
F
F
H
A
H
H
H
B
Individuals
who
now
have
a
tremendous
travel
from
the
time
that
they
get
off
the
bus.
A
D
In
our
minds,
when
we're
designing
this,
so
I
think
this
is-
that
would
be
a
great.
D
D
Comment
and
involvement
early
part
of
next
year.
Okay,
second
question
is
I
thought
that
this.
K
K
Well,
before
pedellus
drive,
because
the
pete
ells
drive
pdl's
drive
was
his
own
project.
That
was.
D
K
D
D
D
Large
okay,
understood
final
question:
is
I
see
that
the
the
side
path
on
the
north
side
of
45.
K
Blends
with
the
it
becomes
hard
on
the
the
car
travel
lanes
by
the
time
you
get
to
the.
K
You
know
if
there's,
if
ndot's
making
some
effort
to
I
mean
like,
is
there
a
certain
minimum.
D
A
curb
we
try
not
to
do
that
if
we've
got
the
space,
so
in
this
case
it
looks
like
we
probably.
F
D
D
Sometimes
we
plan
on
federal
funds
and
then
it
it
might
just
the
way
that.
A
On
the
road
and
she
apologizes
for
that,
we
can
now
open
this
up
to
the
public.
A
I
believe
there
is
a
typically
five
minute
limit
on
public
comment
and
mr
ferris
has
his
hand
up.
A
M
Spent
quite
a
bit
of
time,
a
lot
of
discussion
resulted
in
you
all
coming
up
with.
J
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
To
lisa,
so
she
can
put
them
in
a
record,
and
I
recommend
you
do
that,
so
they
can
be
addressed.
M
M
M
M
M
F
Excuse
me:
what
are
we
doing
here?
I'd
like
to
call
the
question,
I
don't
know
if
we've.
B
So,
let's
could
you
please
call
the
role
and
let's
vote
on
this
thing.
Madam
chair,
yes,
I.
K
Think
after
public
comment,
there
should
be
an
opportunity
for
debate
or
discussion
before
a
vote.
B
J
C
Sorry
I
was
muted
yes,
but
only
because
it'll
give
us.
J
M
M
M
M
M
And
the
fact
that
they
have
to
go
down
third
street
down
to
smith
road.
M
M
M
M
M
G
I
would
like
to
thank
colonel
faris
for
all
of
the
work
that
he's
and
expertise
that.
A
F
Oh
excuse
me:
I
was
just
trying
to
read
the
comments
here
yeah
I
did
want
to
say
just
a.
F
Couple
things
briefly,
lou
may
has
officially
retired,
as
the
general
manager
of
bm
a
bloomington.
F
Transit-
excuse
me
john
connell,
who
I
mentioned
at
our
last
meeting,
is
taking
over.
I
don't
think.
F
F
And
we're
satisfied
with
it,
so
things
are
doing
okay
and
I
hope
you
all
get
a
chance.
I
know
that.
A
A
A
Not
ignoring
mr
ferriss's
comments,
I
I
think
he's
done
a
lot
of
homework
and
I
appreciate
it.
A
And
the
policy
committee
will
meet
on
november
5th
at
1
30
pm
and
I
would
think,
maybe
we'll
be
in.
A
And
I
moved
for
a
journey,
I
moved
to
a
churn
and
I
just
want
to
remind
people
that
our
meeting.