City of Bloomington, Indiana MPO Policy Committee, 9 Oct 2020

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So we can call this meeting to order on october 9th.

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2020 of the mpo policy committee um item two is approval of the agenda, so I.

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Would move to approve agenda? Second, I have a motion and I have a.

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Second, um do you want to call the roll call.

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Vote, brian or pat, I don't have a list in front of me.

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How about a voice vote, I don't think you're allowed to do it.

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I think that was part of the governor's act. Okay,.

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That's correct: we cannot okay, then I'd be happy to to.

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Call the role then.

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Just a second well I make sure I have.

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Scott robinson is on for the mayor by the way.

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Hey. Congratulations! Scott thanks kent appreciate it hi jillian.

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Hi everyone all right, I'm ready, uh please let me.

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Know if I don't or if you don't hear your name.

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That would be purely by accident. All right.

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uh Mcdaniels, yes,.

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Yes, writer band, yes, will.

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Yes, nickel, yes kittens! Yes, warren.

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Yes, clarity, yes, bannock, yes, robinson.

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Yes, is there anyone I left out jillian kinsey's here I don't.

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Know, if that, thank you, yes, all right, kenzie.

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Okay, that is 12-0.

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All right, madam chairman, I think that um we've already identified that.

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That scott is here for the mayor. Can any other proxy's please identify.

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Themselves for the record. Thank you. Sarah.

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Hi, this is nate nicholl sitting in for adam wayson,.

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City of bloomington public works department.

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Is that the only proxy, the only two proxies.

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Yes, I believe so. Okay, I'm moving on to the next item, is.

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Approval of the minutes for september 11, 2020.

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Move approval, I I I do have a question here and I can't.

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For some reason, I can't I'm having technical.

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Technical problems here: um can you hear me.

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Yes, yes, okay I'll. Second, the motion, just so it's uh valid first.

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I can't access the meeting and the agendas.

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Or anything right now, but I can't hear you.

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But I think that in the minutes it said that lou.

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Was a proxy lou may was a proxy for bloomington transit.

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And that's not the case. Blue is a member of the technical advisory committee.

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I'm the representative for bloomington transit.

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And I may I may have gotten that wrong, but I can't access it right now. So I.

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Can't tell you, but anyway, um if that's the case, then.

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That should be adjusted. I recall you said that at the last meeting as well is.

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That the last one- okay, that's what I remember yeah that.

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Could very well be, I think, you're right, but I can't right.

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Now I'm having trouble here, I can't see anything or.

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Trying to get back to you, I'm glad you can still hear me, but thank you. Sarah.

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Never mind all right, thank you. uh So we have a motion.

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Screen pardon can everyone else see my screen.

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Yeah, I can see anything. The screen is up yeah. Yes,.

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Yes, and so we have a motion in a second to approve the.

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Minutes as submitted, um do you want to call a roll call vote.

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Ridge, yes, ryder band.

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I'll move on wilt, yes, wallman.

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Yes, nickel, yes giftens. Yes, warren.

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Yes, bannock, yes, robinson.

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I'll abstain, since I wasn't at the last meeting thanks.

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Kinsey, yes and I'll go back to writer band.

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Yes, oh thank you ryan. Did you hear, did you call me I'm ken.

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Oh, I didn't sorry, sorry, kent, okay well I'll, say. Yes, I'm gonna log out.

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And try and get back in again, because I can't see anything right now.

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So I'll be back in a few seconds. Okay, thank you.

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All right, we have 1101 all right. um Thank you, ryan,.

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Communication from the chair, I really don't have anything to add today.

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Reports from officers citizens advisory, yes, uh citizens, advisory committee.

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Met virtually and we recommended approval of the.

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Final draft of the mtp.

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That's it all right! Thank you. Sarah technical advisory committee, yeah lou.

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May here I'm chair of the tac and.

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Much like sarah reported for the cac, the tac.

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Met also and reviewed, the final draft of the.

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2045 metropolitan transportation plan and the tac voted to recommend.

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Approval to the mpo policy committee- that's it for me.

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All right, thank you, lou, I'm seeing we have no.

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Old business, we'll move on to new business.

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Item a is the bloomington monroe county, npo final draft 2045 metropolitan.

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Transportation plan um pat.

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Okay, since our last meeting I took took into account.

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Of your verbal comments, which came in uh which came in during the meeting and.

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Then we, our advertisement, went out on october.

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I'm sorry september 5th september 5th and september sixth is when we posted our legal advertisement. 30-Day comment.

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Period ended on monday of this week and uh we also receive we received one.

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One public comment: one public comment was from nate nichol.

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uh Representing the department of public works.

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For the city of bloomington and then we received.

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An extensive set of comments from cecilia crenshaw, with federal transit.

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Administration region of five office in chicago.

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Also matt lang, I believe, yeah matthew lang.

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With federal transit administration, chicago region, five.

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And then erica tate from the federal highway administration.

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Indiana division and I want to thank everyone- who's.

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Been with us since january of this year, up until this.

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Time it's been a long haul. We also submitted the document to.

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In draft form to the indiana department of transportation,.

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Central office and we have not received any comments back from them yet.

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uh They may be waiting for a final final document before.

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Making any comments, um the summary of comments.

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uh Received, I believe, begins on page 156 at the very back.

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Erica tate was was very adamant and we'd already.

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Set this in motion, she was very adamant about.

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Documenting all the all the comments on the.

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Draft which went out to the public on september 5th and so.

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We went through an extensive rewrite and I apologize for not.

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Sending me to these to you earlier in the week I thought I would be sending.

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These to you on monday or tuesday and.

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Because the comments were very technical in nature.

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Required extensive research and also required.

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A number of conversation with some of our federal partners.

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So all of those have been addressed there.

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The other change that we've made to the document.

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Since we last met was to the executive summary.

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There were notations at the last meeting about the executive summary having.

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Somewhat of a disconnect to the rest of the document.

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So the executive summary was more or less.

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Rewritten from scratch, showing the background information on the. Why.

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Why we do a metropolitan transportation plan.

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And regulations that are that govern exactly what we do and then.

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We went into the mtp public outreach process, uh the technical.

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Assistance and then thumbnail or I tried to do.

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Thumbnail uh summaries of chapter two guiding principles: chapter three future.

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Transportation needs which wasn't so thumbnail.

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um Chap before the financial forecast, which again wasn't thumbnail uh chapter.

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Five, the travel demand model scenarios than appendix a the transportation.

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Planning requirements- this is a very technical chapter.

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Appendix b performance measures, which again is a.

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Technical chapter required by.

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Federal regulations and by the uh the current.

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Legislation the fast act, legislation in appendix c.

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We went into an extensive, uh well, the executive summary is short.

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That but the chapter is extensive in terms of the public development and well plan development.

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And public involvement methodology, uh which was.

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All-Consuming then appendix d, the travel demand model.

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Itself, which is still valid for this plan,.

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In that seven of the transportation improvement programs.

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Projects there were seven transportation improvement projects.

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In the model for the 2040 plan and six of those projects are still.

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Ongoing so therefore it remains valid. uh We also.

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Went into appendix e the environmental justice.

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That didn't change that much other than a brief update about the census and the.

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Fact the census was being cut short, but then there was a judicial ruling. I.

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Think it was an appellate court ruling just a few days ago about the.

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Census can continue until the end of the month into this month. That is, but I know, there's a national.

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Administration challenge to that appendix e, the environmental justice.

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We went into um yeah that that involved all of the.

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Census then, except air quality and climate change assessments, air quality is actually improved.

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I haven't been able to document that fully with the department of.

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Environmental management yet, but our air quality here in bloomington.

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Is extremely good, I say extremely and I'm not exaggerating.

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There, climate change climate change.

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So on air I say climate change, assessments.

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Climate change assessments.

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We went into an extensive analysis about the fact that climate change is here.

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uh And we need to begin some sort of a resiliency planning.

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Immediately um and then we went into appendix f, I'm sorry g.

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Which are the projects, and this identifies a list of.

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Projects that are currently programmed in the transportation.

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Program- and this was a requirement by the indiana department of transportation.

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That we identify all of the state projects currently programmed, which we.

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Did and then we identified all of the.

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Transit projects and then we went into what I would call a.

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List of illustrative projects, the illustrative projects are concept.

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Projects in that they have nothing more than a.

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Point-To-Point potential need, but those have not been subject to any.

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Type of environmental engineering or even public.

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Involvement process up to this point in time, in other words, they're they're, just a project identified on this piece of.

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Paper or electronically and they have a.

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Gross cost in here, because we don't have any.

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Definitive engineering estimates of any type or another, so we just.

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We just put in large costs, and those are those include.

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County projects, monroe county projects and also city of bloomington projects.

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Then appendix h of the document includes the glossary, which is quite.

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Extensive from the previous document and then the final part of the document.

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Itself is the documentation of the public involvement.

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And I won't go into any any further detail.

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Other than fact that pointing out that chapter, two, your guiding principles are.

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By far the most important element for yourselves.

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In terms of in terms of where you, as the mpo policy committee, wishes.

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See us go us being the staff, the entire npo, the direction you want to.

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See us pursue the visions, the goals.

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The individual items that you want to see us pursue.

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Over the course of the next four years when we update the transportation.

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uh Metropolitan transportation again and then at this I'll, just I'll stop and.

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Wait for any questions that anybody may have.

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Looking up to the board, if they have any questions.

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Comments, I know we discussed this last month.

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Extensively so I didn't know if anybody had anything new.

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That they wanted to add uh before I open it up for any public comment.

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Scott I'd just like to make a comment. Oh sorry, sir, you can go ahead and then.

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I'll go after you, oh really! It's okay! So.

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I just wanted to commend the staff. uh I I particularly found it fascinating to.

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Read the stuff from federal highways, all the.

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Comments which were a lot of scribner things, but.

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Just the amount of technical detail that were was being.

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Brought to your attention and asked and queried and.

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What it took to create this document, even with a a baseline 2040.

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To go by it was substantial, the pros is lovely. I think it really.

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Embodies a great deal of what this mpo, the vision that we have for this.

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Community at large- and I found it incredibly well written.

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I also deeply appreciate that, although my comments didn't go into.

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Public comments, because I didn't put them through the appropriate um system. I appreciate their being taken.

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Into consideration and implemented as part of this document.

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I have nothing but joy in reading this.

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So thank you to the staff.

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Thank you very much got it thanks lisa, and I was just uh sarah.

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Stole my thunder, but again since I haven't been plugged into the mpo for.

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Some time I do know, I just wanted to just give a.

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Shout out to the staff for all the hard work they did, particularly with the pandemic. Trying to do a public process has been.

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Challenging I know they, they had a really high response with survey.

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Results and everything everything um so again. I just wanted to.

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Extend uh my gratitude for staff and working hard on this.

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And and taking the time to look at the document and where they are.

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I just wanted to say thank you. Thank you, scott. Any other members of the.

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Board want to speak. Sorry, look lisa. My dog heard your dog.

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I'm so sorry, if he starts, I'm gonna have to throw him outside.

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I know that's what I'm gonna do here in just a second, so.

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um So I'd open this up for public.

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That's right: do you see anyone.

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There was, there was one more thing I wanted to add too.

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Okay, I believe it was, I believe I don't remember he was kate or matt.

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In the last meeting asked about social equity.

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So in the future transportation needs chapter, I greatly expand the discussion.

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Of public transportation and I added in the extensive.

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Process that bloomington transit, rural trans, clementine, transit iu.

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Campus bus and rural transit went through.

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In the last two years in doing a route, optimization study.

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But optimization study for bloomington transit.

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Greatly expands social equity because it involves the institution.

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Of microtransit at the beginning of this next, this next.

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Calendar year, so the coverage in terms of social.

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Equity, I mean, I don't know what else you can do if you've got door-to-door service, you've got accessibility, service and you've got fixed route. Ass.

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Fixed route service, which which currently serves about 98 percent of the.

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Population in the service area, but I and then I went through an.

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Evaluation also for rural transit, including in.

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A lot of the discussion that came out of their study.

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uh And and in terms of what their needs were too.

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um So I I'll I'll stop there. Thank you for what it's worth pat, I.

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I appreciate all your interest and support for public transportation and.

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This whole covid thing has thrown a monkey wrench into pretty much.

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Everything, so you know we did that study, but now.

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You know pretty much everything's on hold until.

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We figure out what's going to happen next.

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Now and if you, if you read the financial forecasts,.

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Little policy bond- I have back here in the back.

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About the fact that revenues have dropped dramatically.

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For not only public transportation, but also for.

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Jurisdictions such as monroe county and the city of bloomington and the town of.

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Ellisville, because of vehicle miles, traveled are.

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Down so therefore, fuel consumption is down.

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And with fuel consumption down revenue, taxes.

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That would normally go out to those jurisdictions are down.

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And I know through conversations with there, you go.

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I knew through conversations with lou may and with.

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Rural transit, that their revenues are significantly down.

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And you have fixed costs operating I mean the cares money. The coronavirus.

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Act, money which congress distributed to the state.

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Of indiana the state of indiana, distributed to the to the utilities that will take us through perhaps the beginning of 2022.

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And after that, no it's anybody's game I'll, stop right there. Thank you.

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And I think you're right, it's unknown water, so nobody can predict the future.

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On this, um that's for sure um any other comments.

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From I move approval, madam chair.

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All right, I have a motion for approval. Do I have a second.

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Second, I have a second ryan. Would you want to make a.

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Take a roll call.

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Can we uh before we do that, uh don't we have to.

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Open it up for any public comments, I did. Oh I'm sorry at least uh yeah. There's.

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Nothing on facebook and nothing okay. Thank you all right. I'm ready to call.

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The role unless there's any other comments.

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All right, thank you I'll comment. If that's all right, sorry, I didn't know if.

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We were coming back explicitly to. I think I missed my opportunity, but I'll uh no not to take too long. I just echo.

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The other sentiments we've heard. Thank you a lot to staff for all the many many.

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Hours you all put into this, uh I think the survey responses in particular were.

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um We had a lot of feedback from the public, which is great.

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um And just wanted to yeah express how excited I am.

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About the positive direction of some of the changes uh in this mtp from the.

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Previous one, in particular, in the guiding principles which, as uh pat noted, um are really um the essential kind of piece for for.

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The policy making bodies that are represented here, um you know so that the the wheels hit the road uh you know.

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As we move into project selection in the coming years and really making sure that.

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We're embodying these um embodying these uh updated guiding.

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Principles to make sure we're moving in a more sustainable and equitable direction, so excited about that. Thank you again.

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Roll call, brian, okay, sure, ryder band, yes, wilts.

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Yes, walman, yes, nickel, yes,.

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Gettings? Yes, warren! Yes, clarity! Yes,.

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Bannock, yes, robinson, yes, kinsey, yes,.

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Mcdaniel, yes, ridge, yes,.

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All right that is 12-0 great, um thank you, pat and ryan. I echoed them.

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um I know we spend a lot of time extra time, emailing back and forth, and phone.

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Calls and I appreciate your patience with me.

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It takes me a little bit to get back with you, um but I I commend you guys on all the work you guys and the time you took into.

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This so thank you very much. Thank you. Lisa.

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um So does that take care of item one and we have to go to item one.

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Takes care does that take care of a is one and two, but that was a package deal.

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We also have the uh the resolution, the endorsement resolution. Okay,.

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If you want to go to the resolution for fiscal year, 20.

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It says 2020-2001, I believe, 2021.

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Didn't we do the resolution, that's what I was thinking. This was all one thing.

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Oh yeah, okay, that's fine! That's fine! That's cool!.

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No, no, that's fine, so does that cover everything in your new business? Yes, the.

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Only lisa I'll have to get with you later on a signature or the further for the resolution.

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Because department of transportation and federal highway don't.

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Don't necessarily believe me unless your signature's not.

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Okay, that is not a problem. You know how to reach me.

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Okay, um so moving on to communications from the committee members that are.

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Non-Agenda items, topics for future agendas.

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And I look I'm eager madam chair to.

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See crash reports, so uh it's mentioned in our new mtp.

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And is important for safety, so uh I know that staff will finally have a.

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Little room to breathe and might be able to tackle funny.

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Numbers and the rest of our community and see where.

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We have safety issues well, you're. In luck, sarah that is next.

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And I can say on the county behalf: we have.

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Actually, we have an intern working on the county, one. Usually we have it out in.

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June but of course uh that was subsided a little bit.

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um So it is actually underway right now of being updated for the county.

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Crash report also for the three-year report.

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One thing I'd like to point out too, is embedded within the mttp.

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Are the new crash targets and, and I know sarah doesn't like that.

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Word but that's the federal legislation, the new crash targets for county year.

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2021 from the department of transportation.

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That was inserted in at the last minute, uh because indot was to issue.

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Those in november- and the last thing I wanted to do is come back to the committee in november. For an amendment of.

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Something we just passed this month, so those.

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New numbers are in there and they're substantially lower.

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Than what the department of transportation had originally forecasted.

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And the reason they're down is because of vehicle miles, traveled.

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Across the entire state or down so their unemployment.

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Employment is down too that's the other thing. Crashes are actually correlated.

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With employment, the more people employed the more people on the road.

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Now that we have a higher unemployment level, we've dropped in terms of.

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What these different crashes, but I noticed that um our federal highway.

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Folks were uh questioning our vision, zero.

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And I'm glad that our mpo is aiming for vision, zero as a.

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Guiding principle, uh I wish that our state and our federal government.

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Would look seriously at vision, zero as their goal as well.

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And and we're the bloomington monroe county is now the first mpo in indiana.

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To implicitly endorse vision, zero in its mtp, so.

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We're number one: now the hard part comes in.

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Implementing the policy uh over the course of the next several months, we'll.

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Have to come up with the whole set of criteria on that and.

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Then watching how that works.

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So, yes, thank you for noticing that hey pat, are we number one or are we number.

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Zero we're the first yeah number zero for.

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Number one number one for number: zero yeah provisions here. Thank you. I'm not used to levity.

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um Thank you, so any other suggestions from the board.

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Our upcoming meetings, the next policy committee meeting, is november 13th.

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At 1 30, and it is to be virtual- uh the technical advisory committee and.

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The citizens advisory committee will both be on october 28th.

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Technical advisory is at 10 am, and the citizens advisory is at 6, 30 pm.

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If there is nothing else, I would accept a motion for adjournment.

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Move to a proof move move to adjourn thanks. Sarah second.

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Sure, second, okay, I don't think we need a row vote for that part. I don't think.

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Right, I don't think so all right. Thank you.

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