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B
B
B
Can
we
can
we
have
her
volume
up
a
little
bit
next,
mr
wallman.
B
The
commissioner
gibbons
hi,
I'm
penny
giffins
from
proxy
for
commissioner
julie,
thomas.
B
H
B
Will
have
approval
of
minutes
for
august
12th
this
year,
communications
from
the
chair.
B
B
B
B
B
The
agenda,
including
communications
for
state,
road,
45
corridor
and
topics
for
future.
B
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second,
can
we
we
have,
we
have
to
have
a
roll
call
vote.
E
Under
old
business,
could
we
add
an
item
please
to
talk
about?
What's
going
on
with
state
route,
45.
E
East
10th
street,
that's
already
under
communications
for
committee
members.
B
In
item
10
10a,
thank
you.
Okay,
any
other
additions
or
subtractions
to
the
agenda.
D
D
B
Want
to
vote
on!
That's
why
I
would
go
under
okay
is
what
would
be
the
thing
being
voted
on.
D
H
H
B
A
And
in
terms
of
an
upcoming
public
hearing,
ms
clements,
mr
wallman
is
here,
and
he
can
address.
D
For
that,
so
whoever
it
is
who
briefs
us
and
not
on
an
item
on
the
agenda
that
doesn't.
D
Is
purposely
low
priority,
for
instance
communications
on
items
not
on
the
agenda.
H
H
So
the
fact
that
we
have
it
on
the
agenda
already
if
there
is
going
to
be
needing
further.
H
B
Received
I,
I
certainly
saw
the
emails
from
ms
clements
and
from
mr
what's
his
name,
paris.
B
D
Yes,
I
would
like
to
move
the
discussion
of
the
state
road,
4546,
pete,
dallas,
drive,
discussion.
D
B
B
Okay,
that
amendment
does
not
pass.
We
now
go
to
I'll
entertain
other
amendments.
B
Are
there
I
think
we
need
to
introduce
it?
Can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
I
B
Let
me
just
extend
an
apology
to
ms
clements
and
to
mr
ferris,
although
their
communications
are.
B
Received
after
the
agenda
was
published
and
despite
the
fact
that
they
were
quite
detailed.
B
B
Not
have
time
to
respond
before
this
meeting
it's
been
a
busy
week.
I
will
say
that.
B
If
there
is
one
aspect
of
my
response
that
they
should
look
forward
to
it's
the
question,
I
will.
B
Have
is
how
is
what
they're
requesting
different
than
what
has
already
happened.
B
B
Time-
and
you
know
I
think
it
deserves
better
addressing
than
it
has,
but
that's
on
me
so
I'm.
B
We
can
come
to
a
resolution
at
some
near
point
in
the
future,
with
that
we
now
go
to
reports.
A
None
no
reports
from
mpo
staff
we
now
go
on
to
old
business.
First
item
is
the
fiscal
year.
B
A
A
A
B
To
my
left
is
right
away.
I
just
want
to
express
appreciation
for
the
delineation
so
that
we
could.
H
H
In
a
real
form,
and
I'm
so
glad
that
we'll
be
actually
getting
these
iija
funds,
thank
you.
K
I
have
my
hand
raised
ms
ridge.
Please
go
ahead,
so
I
I
want
to
thank
patrick.
B
A
A
A
A
A
K
That
I
know
there
were
working
hard
and
with
the
lpas
and
trying
to
get
answers
and
people.
A
B
B
Mean
I'm
asking
as
the
chair
should
I
be
is
there
anything
I
can
do
is
anything
that
any.
B
Okay,
well,
in
that
case,
I
expect
it'll
probably
get
done
anything
else.
Ms
ridge.
K
No,
thank
you,
I
know
no
timeline
and
then
I
know
you
know.
Of
course,
mdot
has
to
have
their
time
to.
K
K
L
B
B
Question
answered:
yeah,
okay,
okay,
let's
go
on
to
new
business,
then
item
a
is
the
bloomington.
I
I
Their
video
and
I
will
be
going
through
the
the
presentation
for
them,
so
I
think
mike
and.
M
I
think
this
is
mike,
I'm
unmuted,
can
you
hear
me
yes
loud
and
clear
anyone
else.
B
All
right
with
that,
if
whoever
is
going
to
begin
the
discussion,
if
you
could
introduce.
B
Begin
your
presentation
please,
but
make
sure
that
when
you
begin
speaking
introduce.
B
N
Team
mike
martin,
tamara
mahadi
and
kate
shaner,
would
you
guys
like
to
please
introduce
yourselves.
M
Sure
I'll
jump
in
I'm
mike
martin,
I'm
out
of
wsb
zero
emissions,
fleet
and
facilities
group.
M
M
M
J
N
Thank
you
just
to
get
started
with
the
presentation.
I'd
like
to
provide
a
little.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
Of
the
battery
electric
buses,
thank
you
cynthia!
So
for
the
battery
electric
bus
technology,
the.
J
J
Of
the
vehicle
itself
to
improve-
and
we
did
the
analysis
for
two
kind
of
scenarios-
first-
is.
J
J
The
bloomington
transit
garden
service
can
be
completed
by
bev
technology
and
in
the
more.
J
Conservative
scenario,
the
completion
rate
will
go
down
to
about
36
percent,
but
in
general
in.
J
J
J
Cannot
be
completed
by
the
bev
technology,
and
here
we
present
some
of
the
strategies
that.
J
Service
changes
which,
basically
without
without
reducing
the
carbon
service,.
J
The
the
the
block
that
is
suddenly
longer
can
be
split
to
smaller
portions
and
utilize.
The.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Aim
of
this
analysis
was
to
provide
a
very
initial
high
level
analysis
about
what
kind
of
charger.
J
J
J
Charger
for
the
conservative
scenario
during
the
most
challenging
day,
so
one
faster
charger.
J
Optimization
of
when
to
charge
the
maximum
peak
load
needs
will
be
about
2.3
in
the
near
term.
2.3.
J
J
J
For
2035,
full
bb
fleet,
which
means
about
88
of
the
service,
can
be
completed
just
by
waiting.
J
J
O
O
Be
covered
by
today's
fuel
cell
electric
bus
technology.
Currently
there
are
only
three.
O
Fuel
cell
electric
buses
on
the
market,
40
and
60
foot
option
by
new
plier
and
a
40-foot
option.
O
O
So
that's
the
footprint
of
the
equipment
itself.
The
national
fire
protection
agency
requires
some.
O
Pretty
large
setbacks
from
property
lines,
buildings,
air
intakes
other
vehicles
to
ensure.
O
O
O
O
O
O
Footprint
available
and
don't
have
cheap
water
and
power.
It
also
is
the
most
expensive
option.
O
N
N
N
Scenarios,
since
the
cost
of
electricity
and
hydrogen
varies
depending
on
these
factors,.
N
N
The
existing
block
requirements
I'm
now
going
to
hand
it
over
to
mike
to
discuss
the
facilities.
M
So,
as
noted,
you've
got
your
existing
site
with
42
buses
and
just
for
a
kind.
M
M
M
Screen
your
existing
electrical
infrastructure
comes
in
from
the
top
left
corner
of
your
site
as.
M
Infrastructure
that
serves
your
current
battery
electric
bus
charging
equipment,
so
basically
those.
M
M
Trenching
that
occurs
underground
to
get
over
to
serve
those
positions
so
and
then
there's
a.
M
M
So
you
can
get
kind
of
a
cleaner
look
at
it.
One
item
to
note:
you
see
the
blue
hatched
area
just.
M
Below
the
site,
that's
where
we
have
an
existing
creek
that
runs.
You
know,
runs
adjacent
here.
M
M
M
Your
existing
site,
what
does
it
open
up?
What
can
be
done
if
there
is
feasible
expansion,
so.
M
M
Scope,
we
did
look
at
the
reality
of
this
adjacent
kind
of
you
know:
card
junkyard,
that's
possibly.
M
M
M
M
M
Over
that
creek
that's
on
site
and
when
we
look
at
that,
that's
probably
something
that
would
be.
M
M
M
M
You
have
an
existing
electrical
yard
right
next
to
your
your
actual
transfer
center
facility.
M
M
M
It
is
a
lighter
than
air
fuel,
so
it
can
become
trapped
up
in
your
in
your
beans
would
require.
M
M
M
M
Expecting
as
much
requirement
on
that,
where
we're
going
to
run
into
issues
here.
M
We
have
some
open
flame
type
exposure.
If
you
look,
there
is
a
hot
water,
high
pressure.
M
M
With
with
hydrogen
fuel
cell,
the
only
mitigation
might
be
cutting
a
slight
peak.
M
Cell
can
work
this
overhead
structure
does
not
have
capacity
to
support
pantographs
or
any.
M
M
Fleet
mix,
but
this
is
what
we
actually
concepted
against
and
we
tried
to
do
this
so
that
40-foot.
M
M
B
B
It's
possible
to
to
move
to
move
a
little
faster.
We
would
appreciate
it,
but
I
just
wanted
to.
B
M
M
M
M
M
M
To
keep
your
site
running
and
return
to
operations
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
that's
down
and
then.
M
M
An
overhead
pantograph:
we
don't
recommend
plugging
on
that,
because
the
public
can
get
you.
M
M
Wouldn't
bring
your
bus
back
in
lower
than
25
state
of
charge
in
the
charge
required
you'll.
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
This
is
utilizing
a
the
projected
fleet
on
the
expanded
site,
so
at
this
point,
you're
taking
all.
M
M
M
Are
sized
in
basic
setups
so
that
you
could
mount
overhead
photovoltaic
above
these
frames?
You.
M
Could
basically
have
a
decked
parking
scenario
somewhere
where
you
have
canopy
covered,
but
you.
M
To
you
basically
capture
costs
during
the
day
when
rates
are
higher
and
then
typically.
M
This
is
a
huge
benefit
because
you
can
build
that
secondary
or
the
first
set
of
charging.
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
And
alarming
systems,
new
mechanical
exhaust
and
new
designated
spaces
and
automatic.
M
M
Your
existing
existing
site
so
there's
simply
inadequate
space
for
some
of
the
setbacks.
You've.
M
M
B
B
M
M
I
think
cynthia
you
were
going
to
present
these
yes
just
to
quickly
go
over
the
key
findings.
N
N
Conversations
with
stakeholders
early
on
sorry
that
I
sped
through
those
last
few
slides
but.
N
B
It
was
very
informative,
very
detailed.
I
would
now
like
to
open
up
the
floor
to
a
brief
round
of.
B
B
Are
there
any
questions
on
my
left,
commissioner?
Githans.
M
Set
up
within
that,
obviously
anything
in
a
tanker
truck
when
it's
on
the
road.
It's.
M
On
those,
the
challenges
are
just
meeting
these
safety
requirements
within
your
facility
that
are.
E
M
H
Bebs,
I
guess
we're
calling
them
in
terms
of
how
they
are
fueled.
Is
there
any
change
in
the.
H
M
I
I
can
speak
to
that
one
as
well.
Actually
so
it's
a
great
question
and
it
is
absolutely.
M
Something
that
plagued
the
better
electric
bus
industry
on
the
you
know,
kind
of
embassy
and.
M
M
M
When
you
look
at
plug-in
and
panograph,
there
are
standards,
there
are
sae
standards.
It's.
M
M
You're,
specifying
a
bus
within
the
battery
voltage
range
as
battery
capacities
go
higher.
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
Really
quick:
we
we
showed,
you
know
what
it
would
take
to
actually
handle
a
60-foot
bus
on.
M
M
B
You
very
much
for
the
exhaustive
presentation.
It's
meant
much
food
for
thought
very
interesting.
B
But
I'd
still
like
to
get
in
mr
jackson,
with
our
next
presentation,
is
presentation
of.
B
P
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
today.
This
is
the
second
group
I
presented
go
bloomington.
P
To
to
date,
last
week
I
presented
to
the
common
council
for
the
first
time
next
slide.
Please.
P
P
P
P
P
Next
slide,
please,
we
also
have
launched
our
website
gobloomington.org
in
june
right
amigos.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Approved
it'll,
look
like
the
total
of
318
thousand
dollars
and
and
change.
We
get
some
arpa
funding.
P
Now
so
we
do
get
some
federal
funding,
but
that's
going
to
sunset
the
tdm
plan
that
was
done
by.
P
B
Going
once
going
twice,
mr
jackson,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
We
hope
that
you
are.
B
Successful
in
reducing
single
occupancy
vehicles
and
if
there's
anything
else
that
we
can
do
or.
B
B
D
Up
and
raised
for
several
years
now
and
really
repeat
my,
I
guess,
surprise
and
alarm
that.
D
Despite
repeated
efforts
to
discuss
this
items
that
it
continues
to
be
unaddressed
and
and.
D
A
C
This
board-
and
I
just
want
to
preface
this-
is
going
to
be
kind
of
just
a
high
level
review.
C
C
Also,
the
second
project
we
have
is
1800
199.
1800-199,
that
is
state
route,
5
state
route,
45.
C
C
Third,
one
is
this
number
two:
zero:
zero
zero.
Two
thousand
two
thirty
one
state
road
45
from.
C
Into
the
same
construction
contract
we're
currently
working
on
fishing
at
preliminary
plans.
C
C
C
C
C
C
At
the
beginning,
next
year
and
there'll
be
a
lot
more
detail
on
those
projects.
At
that
time,.
C
C
C
Like
I
said,
we're
currently
the
process
of
evaluating
and
analyzing
alternatives,
so
this.
C
In
the
fall
of
23
broadway,
complete,
mid-24
and
letting
in
25.,
so
you
know
the
way
induct.
C
C
One
shared
the
board:
there
was
a
lot
of
unseen
time
and
effort.
There
are
seymour
district
folks.
C
C
C
C
B
D
Possible,
mr
wallman,
I
would
like
to
see
the
a
discussion
and
also
the
diagrams
of
the.
D
B
C
I
would
say
at
that
time
I
I'm
not
sure
we
can
certainly
engage
and
maybe
have
an.
C
B
I'm
just
trying
to
establish
whether
this
was
going
to
be
a
matter
of
course
anyway,
or.
B
B
Don't
continue
having
late
meetings
here,
but
I
want
to
thank
both
of
you
for
your
time.