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A
Thanks
jackie,
I
will
call
to
order
this
special
meeting
of
the
bloomington
plan
commission
for.
C
C
No,
we
just
want
to
clarify
again,
I'm
sure,
brad,
that
you
will
talk
about
this.
Hopefully.
C
Briefly,
what
we're
covering
tonight
is
does
not
include
the
plex
discussion
or
the
final.
C
Mapping
discussion
just
to
just
to
clarify
for
those
joining
us
or
watching
somewhere
else.
A
All
right,
seeing
none
we'll
jump
into
the
agenda.
There
are
seven
petitions
that
are.
A
Still
on
our
on
our
plate,
as
we
discussed
on
our
previous
meeting
on
march,
8th.
A
We
have
a
plan
to
sort
of
break
these
up
into
chunks.
We
handled
some
of
the
very.
A
To
chapters
three
four,
six
and
seven
as
well
as
I
believe,
deletion
of
the
arizona
chapter.
A
Eight,
we
will
preserve
our
next
meeting
specifically
to
handle
discussion,
while
the.
A
Questions
and
amendments
surrounding
plexus,
so
that's
0,
9-21
and
then
we'd
like
to
have
another.
A
A
0
9-21
and
0-0-10-21
to
our
next
meeting,
which
will
be
on
wednesday.
So
would
someone
like
to
make.
A
C
D
A
Doing
there
to
be
any
confusion,
next
meeting
is
thursday,
the
25th
at
this
same
time,
at.
A
5
30.,
okay,
so
that
means
we
are
now
back
to
the
petitions
that
we
that
we
are
going
to
take.
A
On
tonight
we
have,
I
believe,
five
different
chapters
we're
going
to
address
here
as
well
as.
A
That
were
distributed
as
you
take
on
each
chapter.
Okay,
so
I
think
we
will
need
to.
A
Well,
we
need
to
separately
take
action
on
those
new
amendments
before.
A
To
sort
of
amend
the
amendments
mike
can
correct
me,
mr
worker,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
yes,
I.
C
Believe
so
so
what
I
thought
we
would
do
is,
for
example,
go
over
chapter
three.
The.
A
That's
what
I
thought
so
we'll
we'll
introduce
the
amendment
you'll,
give
a
presentation.
A
A
So,
let's
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
zeo-03-21.
This
is
amendments
to
chapter
3,
use.
E
D
A
A
As
we
go,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
we're
not
going
to
be
addressing
the
map
or
the
player's.
A
Need
to
ask
that
everybody
keep
those
comments
really
constrained
to
the
topic
at
hand.
A
Need
to
keep
those
comments
really
on
target
to
the
the
amendments
to
the
amendments
there.
A
Once
we
adopt
we'll
reject
amendments
to
these
amendments,
we'll
have
opportunity
for
comment
on.
C
Planning
commission
hearing
our
second
plan
commission
hearing
to
discuss
the
text.
C
Amendments
and
map
amendments
that
we've
been
working
on
and
we
had
a
meeting
on
march,
8th.
C
Where
we
discussed
three
chapters
and
then
tonight
we
intend
to
discuss
four
chapters
and.
C
Then
the
deletion
of
the
re
zoning
district
proposal
so
five
separate
cases
on
thursday
of.
C
C
And
then
next
monday
is
the
day
slated
for
the
official
zoning
map
discussion
and
then
we
have.
C
Two
days
that
we
have
noticed
in
case,
we
need
over
four
days
for
any
of.
C
C
This
applies
to
all
of
the
chapters.
When
the
code
was
adopted,
we
were
given
guidance
by.
C
Our
consultant
that
general
practice
is
to
then
use
the
code
for
a
year
or
so.
C
Things
that
aren't
quite
working
or
missing,
and
so
that
is
what
the
bulk
of
these.
C
So
here
in
chapter
three,
we
have
28
amendments
that
staff
identified
and
we
can
kind
of
split.
C
Them
up
into
seven
categories,
so
we
did
that
in
the
staff
report
for
this
evening.
C
So
the
first
I'll
talk
about
is
kind
of
a
clarification,
so
this
is
similar
to
what
we.
C
Did
last
time,
but
maybe
were
they
were
a
little
more
detailed
or
a
little
less
straightforward.
So.
C
We
went
ahead
and
left
them
in
the
chapter
to
be
discussed
separately
than
with
the
kind
of.
C
Omnibus
that
we
did
last
week
so
the
first
is
a
I'm
just
going
to
go
over
these
and
so.
C
C
C
C
Limits
so
we
are
adding
the
typical
15
day,
time
limit
to
special
event
that
our
other
temporary.
C
Language
here
so
that
if
someone
comes
here
to
read
the
information
about
the
fencing
because.
C
C
More
accessible
for
what
we've
seen
you
know
with
people
calling
with
questions
and
things.
C
That
this
might
make
it
easier
for
someone
to
use.
The
third
clarification
is
that
what.
C
For
buildings
related
to
those
types
of
animals
that
can
be
used
on
residential
property
or.
C
Be
in
or
buildings
that
would
maybe
have
their
waist
as
well,
and
those
setbacks
are
inherently.
C
C
Medium
and
then
we'll
propose
slightly
smaller
setbacks
for
the
small
animals
and.
C
C
Becomes
important,
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
scale
of
appropriate
gas
stations
or.
C
Accessory
gas
station
uses,
for
example,
at
grocery
stores,
making
that
distinction
or
not
doubles.
C
The
number
that
they
can
have
in
so
we
are
clarifying
that
a
fuel
dispenser
is
one
unit.
C
So
that
is
a
clarification
mostly
for
staff
and
then
for
those
who,
you
know,
are
looking.
C
To
utilize
that
use,
so
they
can
be
clear
how
how
many
are
allowed
number
five
is
that
we.
C
Currently
allow
the
use,
I
use
self
storage
and
there
are
regulations
in
the
code
related
to.
C
The
fact
that
they
can
choose
story
and
then
that
those
uses
it
describes
how.
C
C
And
we
wanted
to
clarify
that
you
could,
in
theory,
in
these
districts,
have
a
two-story
building.
C
The
regulations
in
code
related
to
accessory
structures
always
have
been
related
to
closed.
C
Accessory
structures
so
that,
on
the
limits
on
the
number
and
size
for
residential.
C
Said
and
closed
in
the
old
code,
I
can't
recall
the
top
of
my
head,
but
we
are
just
proposing.
C
C
And
then
the
last
one
is
pretty
simple:
we
have
a
use
for
farm
produce
sales
and
the
code.
C
Currently
says
that
you
can't
operate
for
more
than
180
consecutive
days
in
the
year,
so
in.
C
C
Over
so
you
could
you
operate
all
year
and
it
seems
that
the
code
intended
for
it
to
be
limited.
C
Is
actually
annually
and
that
the
consecutive
is
is
not
the
appropriate
regulation
for
that.
C
That
previously
weren't
located
there
so
that
we
could
add
the
building
floor
plate
maximum.
C
And
that
that
may
have
been
an
oversight
to
leave
that
out,
and
so
we
are
putting
that
back
in.
C
We
are
doing
two
other
changes
here.
Student
housing
separation
requirement
increases
as.
C
Interests
parties
interested
in
development
in
our
projected
student
housing
area.
C
And
one
thing
that
we've
kind
of
seen
is
that
potentially
the
numbers
that
we
have
in
the
code.
C
Now
might
be
a
little
bit
bigger
than
we
had
anticipated,
maybe
being
appropriate
or
maybe.
C
Being
that
they
are
a
little
bit
higher
than
we
would
have
liked
to
get
the
kind
of
development.
C
We
want
so
we
are
proposing
to
include
the
separation
requirements
when
buildings
are
on.
C
One
lot
so
that
if
you
have
a
large
lot,
for
example,
a
redevelopment
site
and
that
you.
C
Still
cannot
just
do
student
housing
back
to
back
down
the
development
site
that
those
uses.
C
Have
to
be
separated
as
they
would.
If
you
were
on
different
lots
and
then
we're
also
reducing.
C
The
building
floor
plate
maximum
so
that
kind
of
right-sizing
the
building
a
little.
If
you.
C
Change
and
become
exempt
from
that
requirement
with
the
idea
being
that,
if
you
are
putting
an.
C
Unit
shortage,
then,
your
building
will
be
slightly
larger
than
otherwise
allowed.
C
C
C
So
there
is
currently
no
language
limiting
the
amount
of
ground
floor
of
a
building
that.
C
Can
be
used
for
parking,
so
what
we
are
proposing
is
that,
similar
to
what
we
do
on
a
site
when.
C
C
Commercial
use
or
something
of
that
nature
to
help
improve
the
interface
between
your
building.
C
C
Having
lights
out
onto
the
street,
so
we
have
proposed
to
have
that
set
back
in
the.
C
Building
for
multi-family
use
so
that
to
improve
kind
of
the
pedestrian
interface.
C
Between
those
types
of
large
buildings
that
typically
are
large
in
their
surroundings,.
C
And
then
the
other
is
for
student
housing,
we're
proposing
something
similar.
C
Limit
it
too,
strictly
with
some
of
these
requirements,
but
we
do.
C
Both
of
these
stipulations
do
that,
just
in
slightly
different
place.
C
Proposing
reduced
setbacks
for
livestock
for
smaller
animals,
so
the
that
would
be.
C
Than
what
is
required
now
for
the
buildings
that
contain
large
and
medium
animals.
C
Exist
yet
and
then
we
would
also
be
proposing
that
in
the
code
now
how
many
animals
you.
C
Have
is
regulated
by
how
much
pasture
you
have,
but
for
small
livestock
they
a
lot
of
them.
Don't.
C
Don't
necessarily
need
pasture
and
can
some
are
hand
fed
or
just
need
smaller
areas.
So
we
change.
C
Is
something
that
is
required
for
the
new
use
and
we?
This
came
up,
I
think
at
council.
C
C
Came
up
in
2019,
we
tried
to
add
a
provision
to
the
table
that
the
table
that
I
was
just.
C
Referencing
having
to
do
with
how
much
space
is
required
for
animal,
we
tried
to.
C
And
then
there's
also
an
existing
reference
to
the
age
of
smaller
animals.
When
you
are.
C
Determining
how
many
you
can
have
on
a
lot
and
down
to
the
month?
And
because
that
is
very.
C
We
are
changing
the
way
that
accessory
structures
are
regulated
slightly
in
the
non-primarily.
C
A
maximum
square
footage,
and
oh,
and
also
by
the
way,
anyone
else
who
works
here,
ryan.
C
Or
eric
for
keegan
feel
free
to
jump
in
if
I'm
missing
a
detail,
but
the
the
way
that
it
works.
C
Footage
to
the
maximum
footprint
for
accessory
structures
so
that
developments
with
only
one
or.
C
Two
small
buildings
can
have
typical
accessory
structure,
sized
structures
so
basically
because.
C
C
On
site
and
if
that's
not
possible,
because
because
the
regulation
is
too
stringent,
that's
why.
C
Similar
thing
for
the
mixed
use,
districts
and
then
the
middle
two
are
kind
of
related
to
they're.
C
Both
related
to
agricultural
uses
and
a
little
bit
related
to
the
zeo0821
we'll
see
later
this.
C
Evening
we
want
to
delete
the
50
maximum
in
the
rra
zoning
district
that
will
become
moot
if
the.
C
It
was
to
have
a
place
for
agricultural
uses
that
they
could
be
functional
and
use
large
spaces.
C
Need
to
take
care
of
10
acres,
so
we
are
proposing
to
strike
that
that
50.
C
Maximum
again,
this
will
become
moot
if
the
other
provision
is
approved
or
the
other
excuse
me.
C
C
It
was
kind
of
an
issue
when
we
did
the
rezone
for
duncan
campbell
on
tap,
that
that
was
something.
C
He
had
to
get
a
variance
from
to
be
able
to
rezone
to
re
because
he
had
typical
barn.
C
C
By
impervious
surface
coverage
and
setbacks
and
any
other
environmental
restrictions.
C
Used
for
agricultural
uses
in
the
it
means
more
agricultural
districts
to
not
be
seismic.
C
And
we
have
two
more
here
accessory
dwelling
units.
You
will
recall
potentially
that.
C
Those
lot
sizes
have
changed
quite
a
bit
with
our
new
code,
for
example,
the
old
rc
minimum
lot.
C
Size
is
7200,
it's
now
5
000,
so
in
the
rs
went
from
8
400
to
down
to
7200.
We
have
found
when.
C
People
call
and
request
information
about
doing
edus
that,
mostly
all
this
regulation
is.
C
Doing
is
limiting
that
option
for
parcels
that
you
would
not
be
able
to
tell
you
know,
walking.
C
Down
the
street
are
any
different
than
the
neighbor,
so
I
think
it
was
put
in
as
a
bit
of
a.
C
Do
also
limit
the
possibility
for
adus
in
such
a
way
that
minimum
requiring
that
they.
C
Kind
of
excluding
the
option
for
some
people
along
blocks,
for
example,
where
everyone
else.
C
Is
able
to
meet
and
it's
just
kind
of
creating
a
weird
dichotomy
in
a
neighborhood
between.
C
Those
who
can
apply
for
them
and
those
who
cannot
where,
where
the
facts
on
the
ground
really.
C
Don't
support
leaving
that
in
so
we
are
proposing
to
take
that
out.
The
second
is
more
of.
C
The
typical
example
is
a
garage,
so
if
you
had,
you
know
obviously
a
floor
area
for
your
vehicles,.
C
And
then
we're
adding
a
unit
for
a
detached
adu
that
the
unit
would
be
the
only
thing
that.
C
We
would
be
looking
at
to
determine
what
the
appropriate
square
footage
is
against
code.
C
C
To
what
was
previously
in
code
and
approved
with
the
initial.
C
Existing
structures
and
new
structures
and
originally,
but
we
are
just
proposing
to
go
to.
C
A
straight
five
and
five,
which
is
the
setback
in
most
single-family
districts,
for
accessory.
C
Party
notifications,
so
that
was
left
in
in
the
2019
april.
2020
update
so
interested
party.
C
Which
I
think
we
left
in
as
kind
of
a
nod
to
the
neighbors,
we're
letting
you
know.
C
This
thing
is
happening:
what
functionally
it's
kind
of
created
confusion
as
some
of
our
other.
C
As
the
adu
is
meeting
all
of
the
requirements
that
wouldn't
be
probably
very
fruitful,.
C
Because
it
is
a
by-right
use
now,
so
we
are
proposing
to
actually
take
that
notification
out.
C
C
And
finally,
the
last
topic
I
would
say
for
chapter
three
is
home
occupation.
This
is
one.
C
Where
we
are
trying
to
kind
of
meet
the
world
where
it
is,
and
previously
home,
occupation.
C
Requirements
didn't
allow
you
to
use
more
than
15
of
your
home
for
a
home
occupation,
use
which.
C
C
C
C
Up
that
to
50
and
leaving
all
of
the
other
restrictions,
so
that
you
would
still.
C
To
be
residential,
mainly
none
of
the
other
requirements
are
changing
related
to
parking.
C
Still
very
limiting
we
are
just
proposing
that
the
actual
square
footage
in
the
house.
C
Proposing
to
extend
that
used
to
accessory
structures
so
currently,
if
you
would
like
to.
C
C
Number,
I
would
say
over
time
it's
a
pretty
consistent
request
where
people
ask
if.
C
They
would
like
to
use
as
kind
of
a
workshop
or
a
studio,
but
but
because
it's
commercial,
it's.
C
Something
that
they're
going
to
be
selling,
then
we
have
to
limit
those,
and
we
have
some
uses
that.
C
We
are
able
to
use
for
those
types
of
uses
that
aren't
commercial,
but
we
don't
necessarily.
C
C
Both
of
these
amendments
here
and
then
clarifying
that
there
are
some
exempted
uses.
C
So
the
types
of
uses
where
you're
like,
if
you're
doing
everything
on
the
computer
there.
C
Are
things
that
are
exempted
in
code
still
and
that
those
aren't
the
ones
that.
C
We're
looking
to
regulate
we're,
we're
looking
to
size,
regulate
non-existent
uses.
That
is
what.
C
Okay,
so
we
have
two
proposed
planche
amendments,
jillian
kinsey
offered
agreed
to
propose
them.
C
For
us,
so
thank
you.
These
are
actually
from
staff
and
I'll
just
say
a
little
intro,
which.
C
Is
the
this
came
up
in
a
rezoning
discussion?
We
recently
had
for
a
property
that.
C
C
So
that
if
there
was
me,
stands
for
institute's
employment
so
that
if
there
were
employment,
uses.
C
What
these
two
amendments
are
trying
to
address,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add
julian.
F
Nothing
to
add
no
okay,
so
I
think
ryan.
Were
you
able
to
get
those
up
on
the
website.
C
To
the
website
to
see
the
five
amendments
that
have
been
proposed
for
tonight,
I
apologize.
C
It's
late,
I
was
having
technical
difficulties,
but
those
are
up.
So
if
you
I'm
describing
them.
C
The
red
lines
and
tables
of
all
these
amendments
we're
discussing
tonight
are
on
the.
C
Website
have
been
on
the
website
up
for
a
number
of
weeks,
so
do
feel
free
to
check
those.
C
Easier
than
just
discussing
yeah,
so
that's
what
we
have
here,
a
large.
C
Smattering
of
use
regulation
amendments
mostly
just
correcting
things
that
we
we
have
found
seem.
C
To
be
a
little
off
or
clarifying
practices
that
we're
already
doing,
and
then
these
two.
C
Here
are
two
that
came
after.
We
had
put
the
original
list
together
and
both
intended
to.
A
Is
start
with
the
the
amendments
and
let's,
let's
get
those
out
of
the
way
and
then
we'll.
A
Come
back
to
sort
of
the
the
broader
the
broader
petition
so
for
for
starters,.
A
Okay,
would
someone
like
to
make
a
motion
on
that
jillian,
your
your
amendment?
Would
you
like.
A
To
do
for
adoption
of
that
amendment,
I'll
move
for
adoption
of
to
amendment
zero.
F
Allowed
to
use
table
okay,
yeah-
and
this
is
amendment
number
one,
as
was
listed
on
the.
A
Second,
motion
motion
and
a
second
jackie:
we
call
the
roll
on
amendment
number
one.
Please
do.
C
You
need
to
take
public
comment.
Oh
I'm,
sorry!
Yes,
thank
you.
We
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
we.
A
Will
take
public
comment
on
this
if
you
would
like
to
make
comment,
click
on
the
participants,
tab.
A
One
here
on
whether
we
should
add
retail
sales
as
a
permitted
use
in
mixed-use
employment.
A
G
A
Okay,
all
right,
we
are
back
then
to
the
commission.
Is
there
any
final.
C
Little
confusing,
but
no
it's
not
required
we're
not
requiring
that
they
build
commercial
here.
C
It
is
being
allowed
at
a
smaller
scale
than
allowed
in
other
places,
so
medium
retail,
maximum.
C
Here
and
5000
square
foot
restaurant
so
that
what
feedback
we've
gotten
from.
C
Is
that
large
swaths
that
are
zoned
me
do
make
it
difficult?
Because
there
aren't
enough.
C
Shop
or
could
have
a
small
retailer
there
as
well,
so
not
a
mandate
just
an
option.
A
H
Was
requesting
a
re-zone
from
me,
which
is
what
you
know
the
plan?
The
udo
calls
for
to
mc.
H
H
H
H
H
H
M
e
and
p,
and
just
kind
of
break
it
down
for
the
public
to
understand
that
this
is
coming
from.
A
C
A
Again,
the
sponsor
here
is
commissioner
kinsey.
Now
would
you
like
to
introduce
this
or.
F
F
A
Second,
all
right:
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
any
questions
from
commissioners
on
this.
A
On
amendment
number
two
here,
which
is
to
increase
the
allowable.
A
Size
of
a
restaurant
in
the
r
in
the
me
zoning
district,
please
click.
A
Back
to
the
commission,
for
any
final
comment
on
amendment
number
two
before
we
call
the
roll.
A
Okay,
jackie,
will
you
call
the
roll
on
amendment
number
two,
please
burrell?
Yes,
sandberg.
D
A
As
amended,
so
we
will
now
go
to
any
questions
that
commissioners
may
have
about.
A
In
her
previous
presentation,
do
you
have
any
questions
for
jackie
on
this?
I.
I
I
Cream
but
but
why
is
there
any
any
limit
on
that
at
all?
I
think
that
traditionally.
C
There
is
a
limit
included
of
180
days
and
many
zoning
codes
in
this
type
of
climate
or
area.
C
To
kind
of
target
that
growing
season,
as
I
mentioned
it
is
you
know
it's
an
allowable.
C
C
It's
a
kind
of
a
way
to
limit
and
keep
it
as
accessory
to
the
residential
use
on
the
lot.
C
All
year
long,
so
I
think
the
180
days
just
comes
from
the
idea
of
temporary
uses.
C
Being
temporarily
limited
so
that
they
don't
kind
of
change
the
purpose
of
of
those
areas.
C
Where
they're
used
so
I
mean
it's
a
strictly
commercial
use
if
it
was
set
up
all
year.
C
C
Neighborhood,
so
I
I
think,
because
the
use
can
be
kind
of
intense
and
because
it
is
based.
C
On
a
growing
season,
typically
in
most
zoning
codes
that
that's
where
the
180
days
comes
from.
I
C
Would
say
what
we
mostly,
what
we've
mostly
had
enforcement
wise
is
people
being
concerned.
C
That
the
scales
of
those
that
exist
are
too
big
or
going
going
wanting
them
to
be
more
limited.
F
Whole
section
that
is
a
description
of
noticing
and
property.
You
know
the
distance
to
the
property.
F
F
Just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
about
that
sure.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
hold
on
just
a
second
sorry.
D
C
So
what
is
in
the
code
now
you
see
here
stricken
in
red
is
a
typical
notice
requirement
for.
C
In
or
take
it
out,
we
do
not
send
notice
for
other
buy
right
uses,
we
decided
to
leave
it
in.
C
As
kind
of
like
an
interim
measure
to
see
how
that
that
would
work
with
the
idea
of
you
know,.
C
We've
seen
in
practice
is
that
people
have
some
understanding
of
what
notice
means,
and
then
they.
C
Want
to
come
to
a
hearing
or
you
know,
be
able
to
remonstrate
against
the
use,
but
it's
it's.
C
Not
a
subjective
use
it's
by
right.
So
then
that
has
mostly
just
created
kind
of
issues
for
some
of.
C
C
C
So
yes,
it
is
not
our
practice
to
send
notice
to
the
neighbors
for
uses
that
are
by
right.
Typically,.
C
Oh,
we
have
a.
I
think
this
is.
A
In
we're
in
commissioner
questions
now,
when
we
complete
these
questions,
then
we
will
go
to.
A
An
opportunity
for
public
comment
coming
up
any
other
questions
from
commissioners
on
z0321.
A
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions,
jackie
with
relation
to
the
changes
of
the
floor
plate.
A
A
C
E
C
Okay,
so
these
are
listed
in
the
you
specific
standards
for
student,
housing
or
dormitory
use.
C
Again,
if
you
utilize
the,
if
a
developer
were
to
utilize
the
affordable
housing.
C
They
would
be
able
to
go
up
to
the
be
able
to
go
up
to
the
other
maximum
in
the
rh.
C
C
And
then
we
put
in
a
maximum
of
twenty
thousand
in
the
ms.
Obviously,
our
most
intense.
A
A
Theoretically
achieve
the
same
maximum
I
had
before
this
would
be
adopted
if
it
is
adopted.
A
Decrease
the
the
maximum
developable
area
on
a
lot.
It
just
decreases
the
maximum.
C
To
have,
if
you
were
on
separate
lots,
so
in
conjunction
that
does
change
a
little
bit.
C
That
does
change
what
is
here,
but
yes
in
theory,
you
could
still
have
the.
C
Same
amount
of
building
footprint,
if
you
had
the
room
to
meet
the
separation
as
well.
A
A
To
have
ingress
and
egress,
have
you
guys
looked
into
that
at
all?
Is
that
do
you
have
any
sense
of.
C
I
would
say
no
it's
hard
because
we
offer
not
only
the
affordable
housing.
C
C
That
you
otherwise
currently
wouldn't
wouldn't
engage
yeah.
I
mean,
I
totally
understand
the.
A
A
Is
not
enough
to
get
a
ramp
of
any
kind
to
a
to
a
parking
garage,
and
I,
and
so
my
concern
is.
A
C
Yeah,
so
yes,
I
think
that's
a
good
question.
C
C
I
just
didn't
know
if
that
was
something
you
may
have
experienced
with.
I
am.
L
Just
you
know
like
yeah,
I
don't
have
any
initial
thoughts
right
now.
Okay,
so
I
would
say.
C
C
To
remove
one
of
them
from
the
proposal
tonight
see
yeah,
I
think
the
other
thing
would
be
you.
C
Can
approve
it
or
or
take
that
out
because
they
can
amend
the
text.
Amendments
of
course,.
A
Okay,
yeah
I'll.
Let
me
give
that
a
little
thought
as
to
whether
I
want
to.
A
Let's
go
back
to
commissioner
zara.
I
see
commissioner
kinsey
has
another
question.
F
C
C
Where
offenses
are
allowed,
that
aren't
urban
perfect,
but
I'm
sorry
that
aren't
food.
C
Protection,
but
because
we
have
found
that
you
know
when
people
are
looking
to
see
you
hey
what.
E
C
To
in
different
ways,
and
that's
how
we
have
chosen
to
kind
of
cross-reference
them.
C
You
wouldn't
well,
I
was
just
gonna
say
you
know,
with
a
5
000
square
foot,
building.
M
You're
not
going
to
have
any
kind
of
interior
parking,
that's
just
too
small
and
frankly,
with.
M
A
10
000
square
foot
you're,
probably
not
going
to
have
any
parking
within
the
building
as
well.
M
M
More
possible,
you
know,
you're,
probably
not
going
to
have
a
building
devoted
to
it.
N
N
Talking
about
home,
I
mean
that
is
the
primary
home.
Yes,
so
here
I'll
share
this
in
the
red
line.
C
Of
areas
of
a
dwelling
unit,
and
so
we
would
be
proposing
to
change
that
to
50
and.
C
Primary
home
and
accessory
dwelling
unit,
it
just
says,
dwelling
unit
ryan.
You
can
correct
me.
C
C
In
someone's
adu,
you
could
run
up
an
occupation
there
if
you
can
meet
the
other
requirements.
C
If
that
was
your
question
yeah,
that's
why
I
was
confused.
I
didn't
know
if
this
was
just
for.
N
Adus
or
if
it
was
for
all
no,
this
is
for
all
home
occupations,
so
you
can
see
here.
This
is
for.
C
Their
home,
the
primary
house
on
the
lot
and
then
we're
extending
it
to
accessory
structures.
C
Not
just
accessory
dwelling
units
because,
as
I
said,
we
have
run
into
a
number
of
times,
people.
C
C
Not
just
for
a
hobby
in
their
garage
or
you
know,
accessory
shed
and
code
doesn't
allow
that.
N
Is
there
have
you
also
looked
at
the
list
of
allowable.
A
O
Be
removed
as
a
requirement
for
adus.
I
get
it
that
it's
it's
permitted
and
there's
nothing.
O
And
I
know
that
you,
you
can't
legislate
private
disputes
between
individuals.
O
O
O
Just
think
the
removal
of
that
requirement,
simply
on
the
basis
of
the
fact
that
adu
is
an.
O
Allowed
use
of
permitted
use,
it's
indefensible.
I
I
I
just
can't
agree
with
that
and-
and
I
I
know.
O
O
K
I
see
mr
lewis,
okay
again
hi
there,
richard
lewis,
from
the
prospect
hill
neighborhood.
P
Thank
you
all
for
doing
a
special
meeting
tonight
and
for
your
time
I
appreciate
that.
P
Perhaps
several
years
back
because
time
flies
and
I
I
think
they're
a
great
tool
to.
P
Help
us
work
toward
affordable
home
ownership
and
homeowner
options,
since
we
can
require
that.
P
Like
the
notification
process
to
remain
in
place,
we
we
went
on
a
two-year
pilot.
P
Helpful
to
learn,
maybe
if
the
statement
is
worded
in
such
a
way,
so
that
it
doesn't.
P
Fence
neighbor
worked
on
an
adu
earlier
this
year
and
we
received
notification.
I
did
actually.
P
P
Exciting
to
learn
that
people
are
making
use
of
these
these
options
on
on
their
properties.
D
Riga,
wood
go
ahead.
I
just
want
to
support.
G
Okay,
this
is
elizabeth
cox
ash.
I
again
would
support
peter's
recommendation
for.
G
N
D
S
A
For
any
final
comment
or
a
motion
on
003-21
and
tron
you're
up
first,
yes,.
T
T
T
In
place-
and
we
should
look
at
this
down
the
road
a
bit
more
so
we're
not
jumping
the
gun.
Thank.
T
You
all
right,
thank
you,
tron,
commissioner
kate,.
I
I
And
the
newness
of
this
requirement,
I
I
could
be
persuaded
to
support
an
amendment
to
leave
that.
I
In
with
some
clarification
that
would
avoid
the
problem
jack
you
mentioned
before,
just
people.
I
Showing
up
and
sort
of
thinking
that
there's
something
that
they
can,
they
can
do
about.
I
I
I
I
I
Conversations
to
happen,
that's
and
not
frustration
over
neighbors
wanting
to
to
change.
I
I
A
H
Thank
you.
I
I
do
share
some
of
the
concerns,
we're
hearing
about
the
notification
and
I
have.
H
It
is
confusing
to
people
when
it
is
a
by-right
procedure
to
think
that
they
do
have
some
sort.
H
H
H
H
A
Thank
you
other
comments,
commissioner.
Kinsey
go
ahead,
yeah.
I
appreciate
the
public
comment
about.
F
Concern,
and,
and
certainly
particularly
elizabeth
cox,
ash's
comment
about,
it-
is
the.
F
F
M
We
see
so
few
of
those
and
and
we
always
get
calls
from
adjacent
property
owners.
M
Whenever
there's
new
construction
on
a
property,
you
know
to
be
honest,
we
get
more
of
those.
M
Vacant
lot
was
having
a
house
developed
on
it,
and
so
you
know
our
struggle.
Is
you.
M
That
limit
the
size
of
them
to
limit
the
number
of
bedrooms
within
them.
The
limit
the
owner.
M
M
Use
on
a
property-
you
know
most
of
these
that
we
see
are
very
small
in
size.
So
you
know
the.
M
M
M
M
Hope
or
that
false
expectation
that
you
know
that
there's
something
that
they
can
be
a
part
of.
M
And
having
those
communications
is
great,
but
not
everything
requires
a
notification.
No.
M
Nor
should
it
be
required
to
so
we're
just
trying
to
streamline
this,
to
make
it
easier.
M
For
folks
to
do
this
right
and
I
think
I'll
add
it
could
be
a
deterrent.
You
know
we're
trying
to.
C
Encourage
them
it's
great,
to
be
neighborly
to
require
that
you
tell
your
neighbors.
C
Does
does
and
could
discourage
people.
You
know
we
have
very
active
neighborhoods
here.
C
If,
if
you
are
the
type
of
person
who
wants
to
be
super
involved
in
your
neighborhood,
you.
C
It
or
tell
your
neighbors
and
if
you're
not,
is
it
really
our
place
to
mandate
that
they.
C
It
just
feels
a
little
you
know
like
in
eric's
example.
It
just
feels,
oddly
specific,
for
this
use.
C
If
you
don't
mind,
I
didn't
know
what
oh
okay,
someone
who
was,
who
was
trying
to
make
public.
A
C
And
then
also
I
can
share
the
comment,
if
that's
appropriate
up
to
you
guys.
A
A
Hand-
and
that's
that's
how
you
do
that
yeah
I'll
allow
it.
I
know
it's
it's
difficult,
sometimes.
A
To
keep
up
with
the
technology
here,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
gets
their
chance
to
speak.
A
So
yes,
as
long
as
this
is
a
comment
specifically
on
xeo03-21,
yes,
we'll
go
ahead
and
allow.
A
C
Users-
I
don't
know
if
it
you
have
to
click
on
the
reactions,
menu
first
and
then
raise
hand.
C
A
A
Message
by
clicking
the
chat
and
just
send
a
message
to
myself
or
or
to
jackie,
saying,
hey,
I.
A
I
see,
we've
got
one
more,
I
think
it's
perry,
hodges.
No,
it's
wendy
and
ed
bernstein.
Q
Q
Studied
this,
but
are
there
setbacks
different
from
carports,
for
example,
for
adus
I've
seen
some.
Q
Q
C
A
And
not
time
for
back
and
forth,
but
we
will.
We
do
usually
try
to
get
questions
answered
once.
A
We've
completed
the
public
comment,
but
in
order
to
keep
things
moving
and
make
sure.
A
Everybody
gets
heard,
we
don't
engage
in
back
and
forth
during
the
public
comments,
so.
U
Yes,
I
find
the
lack
of
notification
to
be
disrespectful
of
the
public
and
the
homeowners.
U
C
Approved
them
previously
at
five
feet
so
the
same
as
what
carport
would
be
from
side
and
rear.
C
Which
would
be
most
close
to
the
neighbor
same
as
any
other
accessory
structure.
Thank
you.
F
Amendments
to
petition
z,
0,
0,
0,
3,
two
one
as
specified.
What
are
they
28
amendments.
F
F
So
sorry
so
scratch
all
that.
So,
let's
begin
again,
so
I
am
motioning
to
first
suspend
the
rules.
A
Jackie,
would
you
call
the
roll
please
sandberg?
Yes,
seabor,
yes,
cockrum.
A
Okay,
the
rules
are
suspended,
so
we
are
now
allowed
to
recommend.
F
Happy
to
continue
thank
you,
so
I
will
motion
to
forward
petition
z,
zero,
zero.
F
Zero
three
two
one
amendment
three
to
the
planning
commission
or
to
the.
A
A
Chapter
four
development
standards
and
incentives.
C
Okay,
so
chapter
four.
C
Is
development,
service
development
standards
and
incentives?
We
have
broken
these
up
as
well
into.
C
Six
categories:
the
first
here
again
are
some
pretty
simple
clarification.
Clarifications.
C
C
C
C
So
we'd
like
to
just
add
that
that
is
not
for
accessory
structures,
which
is
the
way
it's.
C
C
For
a
number
of
years,
we
for
some
reason
in
the
code
have
opened
an
uncovered
porch.
C
Described
as
something
that's
allowed
to
encroach
into
a
setback,
we
are
changing
the
proposing.
C
To
change
the
definition
of
porch
in
chapter
7
to
describe
what
most
people
would
traditionally.
C
Think
of
as
a
porch
a
covered
structure
with
open
sides,
and
because
of
that
we
are
taking
it.
C
C
That
forward
for
consistency,
even
though
the
language
does
get
to
protecting
that
area,
we.
C
Just
want
it
to
be
very
clear:
what
can
and
cannot
be
done,
and
the
flood
hazard
reduction
zone.
C
C
C
If
r4
is
to
be
mapped,
which
is
the
same
as
r3
currently
is
so
because
they
are
both.
C
We
also
added
parking
standards
to
the
rm
and
rh
so
that,
if
they
are.
C
C
In
line
with
those
types
with
districts
that
have
those
primary
uses,
as
opposed
to.
C
Situation
number
eight
clarifying
that
crushed
stone
is
allowed
for
single-family
driveways.
C
Wasn't
very
clear
so
we're
just
stipulating
that
as
well.
Of
course,
you
would
have
to
have
a.
C
Raised
border
around
the
stone,
but
then
you
could
use
that
in
a
single
family
situation.
C
Five
related
to
transition
standards
that
we
are
doubling
up
in
another
location
in
the
code.
C
So
that
people
can
have
easy
access
to
that,
I
think
that
didn't
make
it
on
this
list.
I.
C
Apologize
is
in
the
packet
and
then
oh
wait
here
we
go
lord
okay
and
then
adding
r4
to.
C
Same,
for
example,
setback,
manipulation,
allowances.
Incentives
are
allowed
in
r4
as
well.
C
Second,
category
is
pretty
simple:
we
did
a
bunch
of
these
in
the
initial,
but
then
there.
C
Were
a
few
left
over
that
made
it
through
to
to
this
amendment,
so
it
is
sinking
the
language
for.
C
Neighborhood
street,
to
what
the
transportation
now
calls
local
street,
and
so
there
were
four.
C
Four
more
instances
of
that
than
what
you
saw
last
week,
parking
standard.
We
are
proposing
to.
C
C
C
Especially
if
it's
a
situation
where
someone
has
to
be
driven
or
picked
up,
then
there.
C
C
Foot
in
the
building
we
are
proposing
to
add
a
longer
parking
area,
deeper
parking
area
for.
C
C
People
in
their
unit,
so
a
longer
driveway
is
more
realistic
for
how
much
parking
they
need.
C
Toward
the
building
and
then
we
added
a
provision
to
make
sure
that
if
a
driveway
is
deriving.
C
Pipe
motorcycle
parking
space
standard
so
that
can
be
utilized
in
in
situations.
C
Use
student
housing
district,
so
we
are
adding
the
typical
other
mixed
other
mixed
use.
District.
C
Architectural
standards
to
that
district,
adding
that
in
the
mix
mixed-use
districts
metal
can.
C
Be
used
as
a
secondary
finish
material,
which
is
obviously
becoming
more
common.
We've
seen
that.
C
Around
town
and
also
adding
anti-monotony
standards
to
those
mixed-use
districts.
C
Three
landscaping
changes.
The
first
is,
we
are
putting
it
in
landscaping,
it's
kind.
C
Sidewalk
that
would
be
located
in
the
right
of
way
which
the
city
would
own.
What
the
code.
C
C
Amenity
and
so
we're
asking
that
that
not
be
held
against
you.
For
example,
if
you
have
a
40
open.
C
The
second
two
are
more
kind
of
in
practice
for
for
the
planners
clarifying
that
mulch.
C
Code
is,
it
has
been
practiced
for
a
long
time,
but
we
want
it
to
be
a
little
clearer.
C
Necessarily
better
for
kind
of
the
green
we're
trying
to
encourage
as
well.
C
As
potential
percolation
over
time
as
those
other
things
get
matted
down,
when
they're
not.
C
C
C
Are
asking
to
remove
that
and
then
two
signage
kind
of
cleanups
one
is
that
we
regulate.
C
C
Just
regulate
all
second
story
uses
the
same
commercial
uses
or
non-residential
uses.
Excuse
me.
C
And
then
that
multi-tenant
center
signs
right
now
we
we
have
a
maximum
sign.
C
Size
for
that
20
square
feet,
and
that
is
a
wall
sign.
We
would
like
to
have
that.
C
Option
be
open
for
a
projecting
sign,
I
would
say
in
practice
it's
a
wall
sign
and.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
jackie.
Any
questions
from
commissioners
for
jackie
on.
A
Commissioner,
st
john
go
ahead.
Yeah
I
have
a
quick
question,
jackie
on
the
thank
you
for.
J
Hard
work
tonight,
so
thank
you.
The
parking
increasing
it
to
five
spaces
for
the
medical.
J
M
Yes,
I
am
here
so
there
were
a
couple
of
medical
clinics
that
had
been.
M
M
Each
of
those
you
know
because,
as
jackie
mentioned
earlier,
you
know
it's
not
like
a
typical
where.
M
M
Waiting
to
get
into
kind
of
the
same
waiting
room,
so
they
had
done
parking
studies
for.
M
M
M
J
Than
five
I
was
thinking
and
I
don't
have
a
recommendation
here-
it's
just
more
of
a
curiosity.
J
J
J
J
Guess,
on
the
other
hand,
it's
also
becoming
you
know,
there's
remote
care
as
well,
so.
J
M
To
go
from,
I
think,
the
three
per
thousand
to
the
five
per
thousand,
so
we
were
just
trying
to.
M
Be
more
conservative
with
that
incremental
increase
and
I
would
say
more
kind
of.
C
Acknowledging
that
that's
a
lot
so
like
when
you
look
at
the
table
or
it's
more
than.
J
Of
that,
so
I
just
want
to
sort
of
maybe
put
a
pin
in
that
for
commissioner
sandberg
to.
J
Think
about
and
and
for
all
of
us
to
think
about
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
to
eric
too
thanks.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Cochran.
V
V
Three
per
thousand
is
pretty
standard
and
which
is
a
lot
more
than
what
I've
seen.
V
Commissioner,
st
john
in
the
fact
that
the
the
demand
is
going
to
be
much
higher.
But.
V
Is
more
than
I
see
as
industry
standards
and
commercial
real
estate
as
a
whole.
A
Zeo04-21
once
again,
if
you'd
like
to
make
comment,
look
to
the
buttons
on
the
bottom.
A
Of
your
screen,
some
of
you
may
see
it
under
participants.
Others
may
see
it
under
the
reactions.
A
A
Like
to
make
a
public
comment,
if
you
can't
find
that
button
feel
free
to
use
the
chat
and
just.
A
Okay,
hey
brad
yeah.
I
realized
that
there
was
there's
one
that
was
in
the
red
line
and
the.
C
K
Okay:
okay,
sorry,
I'm
gonna
just
throw
up
the
yeah
go
ahead
since
we
didn't
have
any.
A
C
C
Can't
be
any
closer
to
the
road
than
your
the
front
of
your
building,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
C
C
A
Edition
is
there
any
one
who
would
like
to
make
public
comment?
I
do
see
one
and
yes.
A
Okay,
we
are
back
to
the
commission.
A
For
any
final
comment
or
motion
on
zero,
four,
twenty
one,
commissioner
sandberg.
H
But
I
wonder
if
the
staff
would
want
to
address
mr
sturbaum's
question.
Oh.
D
Sorry,
I
think
mr
rooker
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
would.
C
Think
that
that
could
be
discussed
under
the
z
o
zero
nine
two
one.
C
On
the
pl
on
the
night
of
discussing
plexus,
no,
we
have
not
proposed
to
change
it
at
this
time.
C
It's
plex
specific.
I
think
I
probably
would
have
erred
on
leaving
it
in.
W
Here
I
think
it
would,
it
would
be
germaine
to
discuss
it
with
the
plexus
as
well.
I
agree.
A
F
Ahead
good
commissioner
kinsey
first
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
and
allow
for
one
hearing.
Second,.
A
F
Recommendation
second
motion:
in
a
second
jackie:
would
you
please
call
the
roll
great
kate.
A
We
are
now
on
to
zo06-21
are
amendments
to
udo
chapter
six
administration
and
procedures.
C
C
For
developments
that
increase
the
units
on
a
lot
by
10
or
more
automatically
become.
C
Major
site
plans
we
have
seen.
For
example,
we
saw
a
development
on
second
street
that
had
three.
C
Units
and
wanted
to
add
a
fourth
and
then
would
have
been
required
to
vet
that
at
plan
commission.
C
Again,
a
buy
right
proposal,
so
just
public
presentation
of
a
very
small
project
and
we've.
C
Had
a
couple
other
as
well
interest
on
small
projects,
and
we
don't
think
that
that
you
know.
C
C
Going
to
be
of
a
scale
that
would
be
of
interest
for
open
discussion
to
to
the
neighboring.
C
Property
owners
and
those
in
the
area,
but
we
think
that
that
one
is
probably
too
low.
C
Additionally,
we
are
recommending
to
delete
the
provision
that
requires
existing.
C
But
we
think
that
these
provisions
are
too
strict,
and
the
third
is
excuse
me
not
a.
C
Deletion
but
an
amendment
that
currently
any
project
with
30
units
or
more
is
automatically
a.
C
Major
site
plan
and
comes
to
plan
commission,
then
we
would
propose
to
increase
that
to
50.
C
And
then
the
last
provision
is
related
to
expansion
or
remodel
a
restriction
that
is
in.
C
Would
be
syncing
with
state
code
so
that
what
happens
now
is,
if
you
receive
one
permit.
C
So
this
allows
for
a
more
reasonable
look
at
properties
in
the
flood
plain
and
syncing.
This.
C
Portion
of
our
code
with
the
state
and
those
are
the
four
I
have,
and
then
we
had
two.
C
Want
to
look
at
them,
but
basically
they
are
just
clarifications.
The
city
is
not
required
to.
C
This
the
city
can't
bond
for
its
own
project.
We
can't
bond
to
ourselves
so
right
now.
C
We
do
not
accept
cities
from
bonds
from
the
city
for
city,
public.
C
Infrastructure
projects
or
erosion,
control
bond
or
projects
that
require
erosion,
control,
bonds,.
C
However,
it
doesn't
explicitly
say
that
in
code-
and
so
we
are,
we
are
adding
a
provision
to
each.
C
Section
related
to
those
bonds.
Just
so
that
someone
who
wasn't
as
familiar
with.
C
The
process
would
realize
that
no
no
bond
from
the
city
is
required
and
that's
all
I
have
on
that.
A
Do
do
we
do
any
public
comment
yeah
we
will.
We
will
go
to
the
public.
A
On
on
each
of
these
amendments,
yep,
but
any
comment
or
questions
from
commissioners.
A
All
right,
seeing
now
we'll
go
to
the
public
again
a
couple
of
ways
that
you
can
signify
your.
A
Tab
at
the
bottom
of
your
your
screen
and
click
that
raise
hand
button.
If
you
want
to
make
comment.
A
Otherwise,
send
us
a
a
chat,
just
click
that
chat
button
and
send
a
message
and
we'll
get.
A
Going
twice:
okay,
we
are
back
to
the
commission.
A
All
right,
jackie,
please
call
the
roll
on
amendment
number
one.
D
A
Number
two
also
sponsored
by
commissioner
seabourn.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
this
one.
A
L
A
D
A
As
amended,
do
we
have
any
questions
from
commissioners
on
the
petition,
as
amended.
A
A
That
motion
carries
the
second
hearing
is
wave.
Then
we
can
proceed
with
the
recommendation.
D
A
Right
motion
carries
we
are
now
on
to
zo07-21.
These
are
amendments
to
udo
chapter,
seven.
A
Which
are
the
definitions?
Yes,
so
these
are
their
seven
proposed
amendments,
they're
split.
C
Into
two
categories
amended
and
new,
the
first
are
amended.
We
are
recommending
for
the.
C
Is
conducted
the
primary
use
on
the
lot
on
which
it
is
located.
The
way
that
primary
uses
have.
C
C
Secondly,
we
are
changing
the
definition
proposing
to
change
the
definition
of
multi-family.
C
Downtown
that
was
removed
with
the
code
update
and
created
an
issue
where
those
uses
are.
C
Not
that
type
of
apartment
is
not
easily
is
not
described
in
code,
so
we
are
proposing
to
actually.
C
C
Multi-Family
for
accessory
dwelling
units
when
those
were
amended
with
the
last
approval,
the.
C
Udo
update
in
april
2020,
it
was
decided
by
council
that
a
family
could
live
in
each
of
the.
C
Regulation
but
we
neglected
to
then
go
back
to
the
definition
of
family
and
change.
The
adu.
C
C
To
medical
clinic,
because
birthing
centers
by
nature
are
kind
of
in
between
the
line
of
medical.
C
C
To
a
medical
clinic,
and
so
we
are
adding
those
to
that
definition
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
before,.
C
Changing
the
definition
of
porch
so
that
you
know
an
open
slab,
wouldn't
count
as
a
porch,
but.
C
To
clarify
that
use,
it
previously
was
under
a
sporting
goods,
use
that
we
don't
have
any
longer.
C
Unlimited
so
kind
of
putting
that
back
to
a
more
limited
location,
as
we
had
previously.
C
Animals
weighing
under
a
hundred
pounds
so
that
those
could
be
explicitly
allowed.
C
Mandated
living
there
because
it's
court
mandated
and
then
the
other
provision.
C
Are
going
into
the
chat
that
one
is
going
to
the
chat
as
well,
so
people
can
look
at
it
and.
C
It
was
sent
to
the
plan,
commissioners,
of
course,
and
that
is
all
we
have.
A
Great,
thank
you
jackie.
Let's
start
with
the
amendment
commissioner
cochran,
would
you
like.
V
Looking
at
the
definition
of
supportive
housing
and
how
it
relates
to
homeless,
shelters,
so.
V
We
looked
at
this,
and
so
as
basically
the
goal
here
is,
after
reviewing
the
udo,
we
did
not
feel.
V
V
V
Environment,
so
we
just
felt
that
this
would
eliminate
some
of
the
hurdles
and
and
make
it.
V
More
make
it
easier
for
us
to
find
locations
for
homeless,
shelters
in
our
within
the
udo.
A
V
And
I
move
that
we
approve
this
amendment
the
I
guess.
C
Think
all
right:
okay,
any
questions
or
discussion
on
amendment
number,
one.
A
Again,
this
is
specifically
on
on
this
amendment
regarding
homeless,
shelters,.
A
Is
there
anyone
from
the
public
would
like
to
comment
if
so,
click
on
your
participants.
A
D
D
A
Back
to
zo07-21
as
amended,
are
there
any
questions
from
commissioners
for
staff
on.
A
Button
that's
either
under
the
reactions,
menu
or
the
ch
or
the
participants
menu.
A
On
007-21,
as
a
reminder,
we
do
need
to
suspend
the
rules
before
we
consider
a
recommendation.
A
All
right,
jackie,
would
you
please
call
the
roll
on
the
motion
to
suspend
the
rules.
Sandberg.
Yes,.
A
The
night-
and
that
is
08-21-
and
this
is
a
petition-
to
delete
the
re
district
zone.
Jackie.
A
C
Zoning
district
residential
estate,
as
we've
discussed,
we
discussed
briefly
last
week
as
well.
C
C
Pull
that
up
here
shortly
and
we
would
be
proposing
the
re
districts
excuse
me-
were.
C
Kind
of
created,
as
a
way
to
allow
for
large
lot
development
and
also
potentially
protect
some.
C
C
C
More
lots
in
this
area
again,
not
a
mandate
but
allowing
for
a
minute
a
smaller
minimum
lot
size.
C
We
have
proposed
some
of
the
re
uses
to
move
into
the
r1
district.
Many
of
the
uses
were
the.
C
Same
and
then
the
of
course
dimensional
standards
for
r1
were
in
the
code.
It
wasn't.
C
A
mapped
district
yet,
but
those
would
remain
the
same
just
under
0.46
acres,
minimum
lot,
size.
C
And
to
be
more
more
to
have
the
potential
to
have
more
kind
of
traditional
residential
design.
C
Than
the
re
allows
for
so
we
are
proposing,
through
a
series
of.
C
Mapping
amendment
that
we
will
see
next
week,
we
would
re-zone
those
areas
to
r1.
C
And
I
think
that's
probably
the
crux
of
the
discussion
here
tonight.
C
Well,
we
basically,
there
were
some
uses
that
existed
in
both
already
and
we
carried
forward.
C
As
conditional,
but
don't
think
that
switching
those
to
the
re.
I
Of
certain
uses
that
would
be
accessory
would
those
be
too
restrictive
for
the
amount
of
land.
I
I
I
Prior
re
designations
for
those
sorts
of
uses,
so
some
commercial
agricultural
uses
moved
into.
I
R1
in
their
prior
designations
so
permitted,
as
opposed
to
accessory,
for
example,
or
conditional.
I
As
a
post
accessory
correct,
yes,
we
have
kind
of
been
able
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more.
C
Didn't
have
time
to
flush
out
that
amendment
and
talk
to
one
about
possibly
doing
it,
but
yeah.
C
I
do
think
we
were
expecting
that
that
would
come
up
and
we're
able
to
look
at
the
uses
as.
C
They
are
in
re
now
and
you
know
it's
the
same
physical
area.
You
know,
so
it's
not
changing.
C
Where
those
things
are
allowed
physically
in
bloomington,
it
would
be
you
know
on
if.
C
C
Yes,
we
do
think
that
if
there
was
an
amendment
to
amend
the
allowed
uses
for
the
proposed
r1.
C
C
That
any
uses
that
existed
in
re
would
move
into
proposed
r1
with
the
with
the
existing.
I
Well,
I
would
be
interested
in
making
that
moment
I'll
write
something
up
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
J
Nodding
their
heads,
but
I
would
support
that
also,
thank
you
just
for
clarification.
N
N
C
But
in
this
case
I
think
we're
more
they're
more
concerned
about
planned
uses
that
would.
C
The
designation
changes,
then
it
would
become
lawful
non-conforming,
but
you
would
not
have.
N
C
Sorry
in
the
meantime,
is
there
any
other
any
other
questions
regarding
zeo08-21.
C
W
A
Yes,
well
done
just
to
follow
up
on
that,
though,
if
we
were
to
adopt
this
amendment,
would
you.
A
Go
ahead
and
update
those
tables
then
prior
to
presentation
at
the
council
yeah,
so
they
wouldn't.
W
W
For
council
review,
it
would
appear
fully
amended
if
that
makes
sense,
yep
absolutely
okay,.
D
Math,
you
can
go
ahead.
I
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
really
want
to
thank
the
commission
for
listening.
X
To
our
concerns-
and
you
know
trying
to
to
work
with
us
on
doing
what's
best
for
the
city
as.
X
X
Myself
and
at
least
the
three
neighbors
I
spoke
to
that
own,
some
of
these
other
properties,
the.
Y
Y
And
yeah
I
submitted
a
letter
and
just
I
can't
thank
you
enough
for
for
reading
it
thoroughly.
Y
And
for
hearing
our
concerns
and
proposing
this
amendment,
we
think
it's
a
great
step
towards.
D
A
A
A
D
A
Beth,
did
you
want
to
make
the
motion
sure
so
yeah
no
worries,
so
I
moved
to
amend
the
allowed.
I
I
D
A
C
Definitely
something
we
considered,
we
have
to
weigh.
We
have
to
weigh
all
of.
C
Our
concerns,
so
environmental
and
you
know
unique
living
situation
against
our.
C
We
do
want,
we
do
focus
on
creating
locations
for
single-family
housing,
as
well
as
our.
C
Multi-Family
areas
so
by
reducing
the
minimum
lot
size
here,
we
think
that
that
could.
C
C
Urban
lots
closer
to
the
downtown.
Additionally,
you
know
property
owners
want.
K
Well,
we
will,
oh
sorry,
sorry,
go
ahead,
commissioner!
Well,
I
guess
just
addressing
for.
N
N
You
have
the
deed,
it's
your
ownership
and,
like
jackie
said
you
can
add
a
d.
A
Final
opportunity
for
public
comment
tonight.
This
is
comment
on.
G
How
shall
I
say
this?
It
was
shocking
to
all
of
us
in
mcdole
gardens
to
the
point
where
we
went.
G
C
Agenda-
and
we
already
told
them
they
could
not,
because
they
can't
that's,
not
how
our
rules
work.
G
A
Comments
to
08-21
regarding
the
re
district
we'll
have
opportunity
to
comment
on
plexus.
A
On
our
next
meeting,
I
will
talk
to
you
on
thursday
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Okay,
we
are
now
back
to
the
commission
for
any
final
comment
or
for
a
motion
on
zeo08-21.
I
So
I
move
that
we've
forward
zero
z-o-zero
eight,
that's
21,
as
amended.
D
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
participation,
your
patience,
that's
the
final
petition
for
this
evening.
A
A
To
postponer
to
continue
zo10-21,
which
is
the
actual
adoption
of
the
new
zoning
map
to
the.
A
Following
meeting,
which
will
be
one
week
from
today
on
monday
at
the
same
time,
so
we.
A
Have
the
entire
meeting
on
thursday
dedicated
to
the
petition
regarding
plexus
and.
A
We'll
take
up
a
discussion
of
that
then
and
yeah
thanks
again
for
everyone's.
A
K
Ahead,
based
on
the
last
comment
we
had,
how
are
we
going
to
address
when
people
get
out
of
hand.
A
When
we
get
into
discussion
of
the
plexes,
it's
easy
to
get
into
bigger
issues.
So.
A
We
just
have
to.
We
just
have
to
ask
everyone
to
you
know
to
keep
their
comments
germaine
to
the.
A
A
The
topic
at
hand
so
we'll
we'll
try
not
to
cut
people
off
if
we
don't
have
to.
A
Hopefully,
we'll
be
able
to
do
it
but
yeah.
I
would
just
ask
everybody
to
come.
A
Armed
with
patients
on
thursday,
it's
I'm
sure,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot.
A
lot
of
discussion.
A
And
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
keep
things
moving,
so
I
have
a
question
regarding
the.
B
Time,
if
we
have
too
many
participants
public
comment,
are
we
going
to
stick
to
the.
B
A
Question
typically,
what
we'll
do
is.
We
would
look
for
a
a
show
of
hands
to
see
how
many.
A
We
could
reduce
the
the
length
of
comment
or
put
a
put
a
limit
on
the
total
time
for.
A
Public
comment:
I
don't
want
to
preemptively
do
that,
but
but
I
think
we'll
try
our
best
to
get.
A
A
But
I
I
think,
we'll
we'll
at
least
be
able
to
get
a
sense
of
whether
it's.
A
So
think
about
how
you
want
to
proceed
when
we
get
there
on
thursday,
if,
if
it
looks
like.
H
So
much
and
I
would
like
to
make
an
appeal
right
here
and
now
to
everyone
in
the
public.
H
H
And
you
know
no
name
calling
that
is
going
to
be
of
the
utmost
importance.
I
will,
however,.
H
H
H
H
Everyone
the
opportunity
to
speak
respectfully
and
as
as
fact-based
as
you
can
possibly
make.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
St
john,
thank
you
I'm
trying
to
remember,
because
this
isn't
like.
J
A
complete
redo
of
what
we
did
the
first
time,
but
it's
going
to
be
similar,
we'll
probably
see.
J
A
lot
of
the
same
people
commenting
with
their
concerns,
didn't
we
allow
did
we
allow
five
minutes.
C
What
we
did
yeah,
I
guess
I
lean
on:
let's
do
what
we
did
before,
because
it
is
transparency
and.
J
The
time
for
the
public
to
say
what
they
think
and
changing
it.
I
mean
I'm
open
to
a
proposal
to.
F
F
F
F
F
I
Full
hearing
of
this,
so
I
would
support
that
full
five
minutes
as
well.
Also,
I
don't
know
whether.
A
J
Meetings
previously,
when
they
ran
really
long
just
now,
speaking
to
my
fellow
commissioners.
J
J
J
Because
it
was
just
like
a
long
time,
so
I
think
we
might
want
to
consider
that
too.
It
might.
C
Bed
and
be
gone
for
hopefully
45
minutes,
so
we
would
probably
take
a
break.
We
could
take
a
break.
A
To
have
a
great
deal
of
technical
discussion
between
staff
and
the
commission
on
this
with.
A
A
A
We
will
not
introduce
any
new
motions
after
9
pm,
and
so
hopefully
we
can
include
everything.
A
Because
yeah,
we
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
thinking
clearly
before
making
decisions.
So.
A
All
right,
thanks
again,
everyone.
Thank
you,
we'll
see
you
on
thursday.