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B
A
A
A
Petitioner,
robert
v
shaw
the
property
on
north
prowl,
road
3500,
block
of
north
hackberry
street.
A
A
A
Before
we
get
to
all
those
petitions,
we
have
a
little
bit
of
internal
business
to
do
starting.
D
D
D
E
E
A
And
second,
do
we
have
that
information?
I
should
be
in
the
recording.
A
Those
minutes
in
direct
staff
to
record
those
members
who
were
in
attendance
in.
F
I
don't
have
that
information
right,
okay,
so
the
motion
stands,
then,
that
we're
directing
staff.
A
In
participating
remotely
is
there
a
second
for
that
motion?
Second,
all
right,
any
additional.
B
C
D
I'm
going
to
jump
in
here
again
guys,
I'm
sorry.
Typically,
we
would
want
the
minutes
to.
D
E
Yes,
I
have
it
my
sorry,
it
looks
like
julian
arrived
about
one
minute
after
we
started.
D
A
A
Objection
and
then
the
motion
would
be
to
to
adopt
those
to
approve
those
minutes,
as
amended.
A
A
G
G
From
mrs
scanlon
it
was
a
survey
by
the
bloomington
economic
development
commission.
G
Wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
had
all
received
that,
if
not
please
let
us
know
if
you
did
not.
G
G
G
E
Thank
you
eric.
We
will
also
need
to
the
standing
alternate
furthering
officer
left
the.
E
City
last
week
was
her
last
week,
emily
herr,
and
so
while
we
were
voting
for
ryan.
A
Of
the
rest,
all
right,
thank
you.
Can
we
have
a
motion
to
that
effect.
H
I'll
move
ryan
robling
as
the
hearing
officer
and
beth
rosenberger.
As
the
alternate
hearing.
A
A
Darling,
would
you
please
call
the
roll
on
the
motion
for
these
appointments
seaboard?
Yes,.
B
A
With
sp
27-21
petitioner,
michael
cordaro,
johnson
creamery,
looks
like
we've
got
eric
to
present.
G
Site
plan
approval
in
2019
or
I'm
sorry
in
2021
the
petitioners
as
part
of
that
request,
one.
G
G
To
get
that
alley
vacated
it's
taking
a
little
bit
longer
than
they
had
anticipated,
so
the
site.
G
G
G
A
I
Probably
cannot
see
me,
we
can
hear
you,
okay
yeah,
I
I
don't
really
have
anything
to.
I
Add
to
eric's
explanation,
I'm
eric!
Thank
you
very
much
for
the.
I
The
just
still
working
through
some
of
the
details
with
the
city
council
on
this.
A
And
I
assume
there's
no
changes.
This
is
just
you're
just
extending
exactly
what
we
approved.
J
J
F
K
And
it
contains
two
parcels
located
at
3030-70
south
walnut
street,
the
properties
to
the
east.
K
K
K
K
K
K
The
fitness
center,
the
siding
and
split
face
block
are
permitted
primary
finished
materials.
K
000
lumens
per
acre,
there
are
also
additional
outdoor
lighting
requirements
and
the
proposal.
K
K
Lighting,
depending
on
the
proposed
hours
of
business
and
the
current
lighting
on
the
site.
K
K
K
K
K
K
A
Yep
we
got
you
yeah
thanks
for
listening
to
our
case
here
tonight
and.
L
L
Fitness
and
for
this
use
and
really
doing
much
to
add
just
here
to
answer
any
questions.
K
Yeah,
so
that
was
a
variance
from
2012
and
2014.
Actually,
so
it
was
a
variance
request.
K
N
Okay,
thank
you
and
then,
if
I
may
there's
a
spot
where
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't.
N
N
K
Try,
maybe
jackie
can
help
me
answer
this
question
as
well,
but
the
comprehensive
plan
designates.
K
Really
align
with
that
kind
of
designation.
That's
what
that's
what
I
meant
by
not
aligning.
E
Marshall,
I
don't
think
so.
That's
what
we
were
just
kind
of
pointing
it
out.
E
So
it
is
supportive
of
people
in
neighborhoods,
but
whether
or
not
type
of
single
use.
I'm.
A
C
K
So
that's
what
the
improvements
were
focused
on
is
that
they
are
white,
they're
ins,
they're.
K
K
C
C
Is
that
something
different,
oh
along
south
walnut
street?
Sorry,
I'm
guessing
I'm
guessing.
K
And
so
this
would
yeah.
This
would
complete
that
it
would
have
to
be
all
along
the
front
of
their.
K
C
C
K
Did
receive
a
variance
for
to
add
15
more
parking
spaces
to
the
existing
parking
lot.
K
K
C
L
L
L
L
L
Things
with
the
udo
that
was
going
to
cause
us
to
need
to
update
the
force
fitness
parking.
L
L
L
L
O
Been
envisioned
by
the
city
right
across
the
street,
there
is
what
south
walnut
street.
O
O
Built
before
there's
sidewalk
connectivity
through
that
area
also,
I
I
want
to
say
how
much
I
think.
A
A
A
Five
in
the
packet
there
are
now
six,
three
of
which
are
on
the
screen
now.
E
Through
there
as
well,
highlighting
the
that
at
the
time
was
the.
E
So
you
can
see
employment
to
the
north
and
then
other
up
by
a
county
by
non.
E
Basic
topics
of
environmental
considerations,
access,
psych
design
plan,
the
request
for.
E
Video
so
you'd
like
to
build
a
new
jail
location
in
their
petitioner
statement.
E
Use
institutional
which
the
request
is
for
tonight,
and
the
employment
opted
again
to
go.
E
So
I'll
briefly
cover
these
four
topics:
environmental
considerations
on
the
site.
This
is.
E
An
image
that
was
put
together
by
the
petitioner,
based
on
some
documents
that
were
created
with.
E
The
last
petition
to
remove
the
topsoil
from
the
site,
so
this
indicates
some
of
the.
E
Environmental
constrained
area
kce
those
listed
as
kce
are
that
stands,
for
course,
conservancy.
E
Easement
and
then
also
you
can
see,
yellow
those
areas
that
are
slope
restricted.
Now
they
are.
E
Developable
still
restricted
areas,
but
they
taking
them
out
of
the.
E
Line
map-
and
you
can
see
the
petition
site
here
the
highway
and
there
is
there's.
E
There
are
obviously
no
buses
out
here
out
here
currently
when
we
had
bloomington.
E
E
Right-Of-Way
for
road
petition
plan,
however,
if
they
were
to
go
to
the
future,
they
would
have.
E
E
This
person
only
goes
so
far
north,
but
the
final
plan
and
that
that
road
is.
E
E
E
E
Purpose-Driven
reason
does
that
and
then
the
I-69
is
background
and
intent
from
the
confidence.
E
Employees
and
resonance
so
again,
how
is
the
specific
driven
free
zone
help
support.
E
Use
kind
of
further
limits
the
ability,
zoning
district.
E
A
recommendation
for
common
counsel
and
further
discussion
next
month,
the
criteria
that
the
plan.
E
E
A
Thank
you,
jackie.
Is
there
a
representative
of
a
petitioner
who'd
like
to
make
comments
tonight.
Q
Q
Monroe
county,
I'm
one
of
the
monroe
county
attorneys.
I
do
have
a
powerpoint
presentation.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
And
then
the
two
other
things
I
wanted
is
that
we
did
talk.
We
have
talked
with
bloomington.
Q
It
we
talked
with
one
I
mean
in
transit
as
an
initial
conversation,
when
you
know
we're
not.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
So
this
is
a
and
I'm
a
map,
amendment
request.
I
apologize
for
the.
Q
Q
294
total
beds
with
262
secure
beds.
However,
because
of
overcrowding
we
have
been
under
an.
Q
Q
Q
Q
These
are
two
quotes
from
that
about
the
jail
assessment.
I
will
read
the
line
that
I
think.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
This
is
where
we're
going
to
put
the
jail
the
next
time
we
build
it
that
area
of
town's.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Meet
basic
needs
and
ensure
self-sufficiency
for
all
residents.
Again,
I
think
we're
we're
going.
Q
Q
Those
kind
of
things
and
they're
at
a
stage
of
life
that
we
really
don't
think
about,
or
at
least.
Q
Q
C
C
C
C
E
E
Anyone
else
who's
watching
the
institutional,
civic,
planned
designation
conference.
E
E
E
So
that's
part
of
what
we
are
saying
is
that
to
re-zone
to
mixed
use,
institute.
C
E
E
Their
rodents
into
their
property
so
wanting
to
get
some
details
about
you
know
plans.
R
Julie
tell
this
I'm,
president
of
the
board
of
commissioners.
I
just
also
wanted
to
address.
R
This
as
well,
very
briefly
regarding
storm
water,
being
a
member
of
the
county's
planning.
R
R
R
The
issue
of
transportation
is
vital
to
us.
We
are
part
of
the
community
justice
committee.
R
Just
left
that
meeting
and
we
are
not
going
to
do
something
without
transportation,
we
have
to.
R
R
R
Position
where
we
get
a
rezone
and
there's
a
lot
of
ifs
in
the
sense,
if
we
get
a
reason.
R
O
Presentation
from
jackie
great
presentation,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
note
that
bloomington.
O
O
O
O
A
lot
of
my
colleagues
on
the
city
plan
commission,
I
I
actually
say
on
the
county's
storm
water.
O
O
O
Comp
plan
that
was
referred
a
couple
of
times,
but
comp
plans
are
fluent.
They
get
updated
based.
O
O
A
lot
of
it
is
being
you
know,
presented
today
as
what
they
have
found
and
identified
as
the
best.
O
O
O
O
O
Justice
system
takes
action
of
dressing,
some
of
what
we're
dealing
with
differently.
O
With
some
all
right
thought
great
all
right,
commissioner
cochran.
S
Looking
at
the
parcels,
the
county
controls
are
under
the
parcels
to
the
south
and
to
the.
S
Classes
there
at
that
at
that
intersection
there,
and
so
knowing
that
you
know.
S
Making
the
change
from
me
to
the
to
the
mi
you
know
and
per
the
comprehensive
plan,
we're.
R
Now
so
clearly,
we
would
be
responding
to
whatever
gets
onto
that
property
with.
A
Commissioner
brew
my
question,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
who
presented
this
if
it
was
jackie.
F
Q
R
R
We
have
other
options,
but
we're
trying
this
first,
based
on
the
request
from
the
administration.
F
Limit
that
would
fit
this
institution,
I
guess,
but
it
will
have
to
be
big
enough.
F
This
project
within
the
city
so
yeah
the
most
of
the
existing
mi
mixed-use
institutional,
is
land.
E
E
Get
you
a
map
of
those
areas,
that's
more
detailed
for
next.
There
is
some
mi.
E
Town
but
but
I
can,
they
may
not
be
areas
that
yeah.
I'm
just
wanted
to
know
if
there
were.
J
J
Topsoil
may
need
to
be
replaced
on
the
site.
What
does
that
mean.
E
So
for
us
you
know
that's
kind
of
a
some
creative
problem
installed
to
meet
you.
Your.
J
J
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
What
we
have
in
our
justice
building-
it's
just
ours-
is
stacked
on
top
of
each
other,
which.
J
Confirm
jackie,
you
said
that
no
matter
so
this
the
city
wants
it
to
be
built
within
the
city.
J
E
H
H
H
H
Is
that
this
is
a
location
or
the
top
location,
but
can
you
provide
any
insight
on
on
how
this
site.
H
More
on,
I
think
I'll,
try
how
about
that,
because
you
know
when
this
happened,
we
we
being
me
and.
Q
Q
Q
Side
of
bloomington
anyway
for
what
we
were
doing
and
then
what
when
we
we
got
that
then.
Q
Q
Actually
looked
at
quite
a
few
sites
between
bloomington
and
ellisville,
I'm
off
vernal
and.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
H
Provided,
I
think
what
would
be
useful
information
to
me,
and
I
imagine
others
would
that
be
more.
Q
G
G
Q
H
H
This
rezone
even
is
goes
forward
absolutely
and
so
more
just
taking
a
step
back
on.
If
and
I'm.
H
H
H
Okay,
and
maybe
the
last
one
and
then
I'll
be
done
for
now
is
we've
talked
about.
H
H
Conversations
that
are
happening
a
little
bit
more
about
the
the
new.
H
H
Process
to
dedicating
right-of-way
and
I'm
just,
I
think
one
of
the
the
criteria
is
adequacy.
H
H
Q
Q
Q
H
Q
Q
Q
Things
like
that,
our
new
facility
shouldn't
have
as
much
of
a
need
for
that
many
jailers.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
G
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
There
have
been
a
couple
questions
from
commissioners.
G
G
Say
90
of
those
were
occupied
by
either
indiana
university
buildings,
churches,
schools,
parks,.
G
Playgrounds
things
like
that
that
are
owned
by
the
parks
department.
You
know
so
most
of
most.
A
I've
got
a
question:
we've
asked
a
lot
of
questions
about,
am
I
zone
and
I'm
curious
just.
A
A
E
Which
no
longer
directly
connects
here
on
the.
E
Over
here
in
this
area,
off
of
rogers.
A
A
And
we
will
recognize
you
when
it
is
your
turn
to
make
comment.
I'm
going
to
ask
before
we
start.
I.
A
Know
this
is
one
of
the
first
public
hearings.
We
have
on
a
very
big
and
important
issue
and.
A
Or
not,
this
particular
piece
of
land
is
is
suitable
for
this
use,
so
there
will
be
plenty.
A
A
To
keep
your
comments
as
concise
as
possible
to
that
question
in
the
hand,
but
with
that
please.
A
T
T
T
T
Of
that
being
such
a
significant
population
in
the
jail
jail
is
traumatizing.
It's
isolating.
T
Rooms
or
trees
you
plant
or
trees
that
you
keep
there,
it's
not
a
place
where
people
will
heal.
T
T
And
funnily
resources
that
way,
instead,
it's
also
on
a
wetland
seems
really
stupid.
I
don't
know.
E
Do
I
have
to
we
just,
I
would
not
like
to
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
other
others
you'd
like
to
make
public
comment.
U
What
the
county
is
doing,
I'm
I've
been
on
the
preservation
commission
at
the
county
and.
U
The
city
for
seems,
like
all
my
life,
and
I
feel
like
I
feel
like
that.
Some
the
decisions.
U
U
Institute
knows
it:
the
limestone
miners
to
the
east
know
it
the
the
deleterious
fact
about.
U
U
Disruption
other
disruption,
and
it's
concerning
to
me
that
adequate
protections
can
happen.
U
U
U
U
U
A
Yes,
go
ahead,
please
state
your
name
and
make
your
comment.
V
I
had
a
few
concerns
with
this
this
site.
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
ones
being
transportation.
V
V
Good
at
transportation
there
and
I
think,
with
it
being
just
further
out
of
town,
that's
going
to.
V
Be
an
issue
even
if
there
is
a
bus
line
there,
and
I
don't
know
I
I
guess
first
I
would
just
like.
V
To
see
a
lot
more
details
of
that
plan,
because
I
think
that's
huge,
you
don't
want
people
missing.
V
Recidivism-
and
I
don't
know
that
seems
like
a
major
logistical
issue
with
this
particular
site.
V
Information
about
that,
so
that
we
can
make
a
more
informed
decision
about
this
site.
V
More
information
on
what
the
problem
is
exactly
with
adding
the
the
multiple
floors
in
the.
V
Current
facility,
because
that
was
mentioned
as
the
reason
you
need
this
larger
site
so
that.
V
It
can
be
a
single
floor,
and
so
I
guess
I
just
kind
of
wonder
why
it
needs
to
be
that
way.
V
Because
we
know
that
incarceration
is
traumatic
and
therefore
anti-theatical
to
any
kind
of.
W
W
W
W
A
You
so
much.
I
do
want
to
acknowledge,
though,
that
I
couldn't
hear
any
of
that,
and
I
think
it's.
J
J
J
E
Q
Q
There's
a
link
to
monroe
county
website
that
has
our
criminal
justice
reports.
I
think
most
of.
Q
X
From
the
department
they
think
related
with
the
transportation,
it
seems
that
bloomington.
X
X
X
Q
X
G
A
O
If
you
go
to
the
monroe
county
website
under
several
different
ways,
you
can
navigate
there,
but.
O
Under
the
commissioner's
office,
there
is
the
criminal
justice
assessment
report
and
I'm
just.
O
S
Upgrading
so
I
I
commend
you
guys
looking
for
opportunities
and
so
and
I
I
do
like
this
site.
S
S
S
We're
just
seeing
the
beginnings
of
some
demand
so
but
we'll
see
where
it
goes.
A
Commissioner,
st
john
yeah,
I
agree
it's
going
to
be
important
to
know
what
we
would
be
giving.
J
J
J
A
Hearing
tonight
right
and
then
after
that,
if
it
passes
it,
will
go
to
the
council
correct
yeah.
A
N
N
N
Like
to
put
a
motion
forward
to
recommend
it
to
you
know,
let
it
go
through
the
second
hearing.