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A
Okay,
so
this
website
is
where
we're
currently
taking
input
from
the
public,
so
also
something
to
mention
is
that
we
are
not
actually
in
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
process
yet.
So
this
is
kind
of
like
a
precursor
to
the
more
regulated
stringent
process
that
will
go
forward,
starting
in
plan
commission,
hopefully
in
january,
and
then
on
to
common
council
after
that,
for
the
map
and
text
amendments.
So
this
web
page
has
information
about
the
story.
A
Maps
that
we
are
showing
in
these
presentations
are
located
here,
as
well
as
interactive
map
and
a
static
pdf
map
that
you
can
use
to
find
information
about
your
property.
All
of
the
zoom
presentations
are
posted
as
well,
and
we
are
working
on
the
responses
to
the
consolidated
questions
and
again
tonight's
questions
will
go
up
as
well,
and
then
we
have
had
various
feedback
forms
and
we'll
likely
post.
A
Another
feedback
form
next
week
related
to
this
topic
and
the
topic
that
was
covered
tuesday
and
then
the
zoom
link
meeting
the
zoom
meeting
links
are
here
also
we've
also
today
added
on
the
right
side.
The
most
frequently
asked
questions
we've
been
getting
about.
The
process
so
feel
free
to
check
that
out
as.
A
A
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
dive
right
in
so
tonight
we
are
talking
about
the
proposed
r4
zoning
district
and
the
plex
amendment
text,
because
most
of
the
feedback
we've
been
getting
about
one
or
the
item
either
one
or
the
other
are
related,
so
we're
presenting
them
together
and
hopefully
addressing
questions
for
both
tonight.
A
So
as
a
refresher,
the
r4
zoning
district
was
created
when
we
did
the
text
amendment
update,
and
that
was
done-
that
was
finished
and
adopted
in
april
of
this
year,
and
that
district
was
added
in
order
to
address
a
few
things
so
allowing
for
a
smaller
scale
district
to
be
used
located
near
amenities
and
as
a
kind
of
a
buffer
district,
maybe
between
lower
density,
residential
and
commercial
areas.
A
B
A
So
we
are
going
to
go
over
tonight.
We
talked
about
a
little
a
little
bit
about
this
at
a
previous
meeting,
but
we
are
going
to
go
over
how
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
how
the
r4
areas
were
determined
so
we'll
get
to
that
just
shortly.
A
So
this
is
going
to
be
our
example
here,
so
proposed.
R4
areas
were
chosen,
as
we've
said
before,
using
the
lot
size
as
the
base
for
existing
lots
in
the
city,
then
we
identified
custer
clusters
of
those
existing
parcels
with
those
compatible
minimum
lot
size
included
in
the
lot
to
create
the
district.
A
So
I'm
going
to
go
over
exactly
how
that
was
done,
and
this
is
just
a
description
again,
which
you
have
seen
if
you've
looked
at
some
of
the
other
story
maps
describing
what
I'm
about
to
go
through
in
detail.
A
So
we
just
used
a
real
world
example
located
here
in
elm
heights.
So
the
first
step
that
was
taken
was
determining
where,
when
we
were
determining
where
newly
created,
our
four
lots
should
be
located,
was
that
we
used
our
three
and
our
two
parcels
that
were
currently
substandard.
That
did
not
meet
the
minimum
lot
size
for
r3
and
selected
those
parcels,
and
then
those
were
identified
as
potential
r4
or
as
r4
sized
parcels
based
on
the
minimum
lot
sizes
of
the
districts
that
were
in
the
texts
that
had
been
approved.
A
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
substandard
lots
often
struggle
to
meet
current
development
standards
for
the
zoning
districts
that
they're
in
and
then
that
generates
situations
where
they
are
required
to
get
a
variance
for
development
or
expansion.
That
would
otherwise
be
typical
if
they
matched
their
minimum
lot
size
if
their
minimum
lot
size
was
more
in
line
with
the
actual
size
of
the
lots.
A
So
after
those
lots
are
identified,
you
can
see
here
we
created
a
50-foot
kind
of
doughnut
around
each
lot
or
section
of
blocks.
We
call
that
a
buffer
so
radius
around
those
lots,
and
then
that
was
chosen
because
50
feet
is
the
lot
width
for
r3.
A
So
if
you
had
more
than
one
r3
size
lot
between
two
r4
size
lots,
then
they
wouldn't
connect.
So
we
were
we
created
the
donuts
or
buffers
and
then
looked
for
areas
where
those
connected
and
started
to
form
clusters.
A
So
you
can
see
that's
what
the
blue
is
here,
the
more
the
round
areas
around
the
parcels
and
then
the
third
step
was
when
we
actually
went
and
found
clusters
of
those
donuted
buffer
sections
and
those
included
any
that
overlapped.
And
so
we
called
those
potential
clusters,
and
you
can
see
those
here-
they're
clusters
of
the
buffered
areas,
and
they
have
at
least
two,
but
often
many
more
are
four
size
parcels
in
them.
A
So
then
we
removed
our
four
size
parcels
that
were
not
within
those
areas
that
did
not
stay.
If
there
was
an
r4
size
parcel
that
was
not
captured
by
these
two
buffering
processes,
then
those
were
removed
for
a
potential
analysis,
because
then
they
lacked
kind
of
a
grouping
of
the
same
character
as
other
r4.
Other
r4s
that
had
r4
in
the
area
may
have
had,
and
we
use
the
buffers
to
select
all
of
the
existing
parcels
that
intersect
with
those
clusters,
and
so
you
can
see
those
here
in
purple.
A
And
then
we
use
those
to
create
our
proposed
r4.
So,
let's
see
you
can
see
here
what
we've
done
and
it's
described
again
in
the
text
is
that
we
took
the
purple
lots
that
were
identified
and
extended
the
areas
out
to
nearest
right-of-way.
We
also
then
took
into
account
the
intent
of
r4,
which
discusses
our
four
districts
being
immediately
adjacent
to
amenities
such
as
parks
or
buffers
between
single,
less
than
single
family
and
other,
more
commercial
or
industrial
or
institutional
uses.
A
So
you
know
moving
those
boundaries
for
r4
slightly
out,
based
on
based
on
that
as
well.
So
we
wanted,
we
said
in
another
meeting
that
we
would
go
through
an
example,
and
we
wanted
to
do
that
as
well,
so
that
you
could
see
how
it
was
done-
and
you
know
something-
we've
said
a
few
times,
but
I
think
is
maybe
getting
a
little
bit
lost
is
that
this
is
just
a
draft.
So
we
consciously
made
a
choice
not
to
then
make
subjective
decisions
about
how
to
adjust
these
lines.
A
A
Aren't
we've
gotten
calls
from
people
across
the
street
who
wonder
why
they're
not
are
for
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
are
hoping
to
have
identified
and
discussed
with
the
public,
and
we
wanted
to
just
bring
forward
the
data
that
was
done
a
little
bit
more
systematically
before
those
subjectivish
decisions
start
being.
A
Made
so
again,
you
can
see
that
area
in
context
and
the
other
areas
that
were
created
around
town
of
our
four
are
the
same.
We're
done
in
the
exact
same
way.
A
Okay,
so
now
I'm
going
to
discuss
the
plex
changes
just
a
moment.
A
So
the
first
question
we're
getting
a
lot
of
course
makes
sense
is
why
are
you
reintroducing
the
plex
discussion,
so
we
with
this
zoning
code,
something
that
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
increase
housing
stock
right
in
general,
just
plain
old
stock
getting
more
because
we
need
it
and
also
to
increase
housing
options.
So
one
way
to
do
that
is
to
zone
for
housing
in
areas
that
we
know
are,
will
imminently
redevelop
on
a
large
scale,
so
2nd
street
old
hospital.
We're
doing
that
in
the
sudbury
pud
area
further
southwest
in
town.
A
We're
doing
that
there
as
well,
but
another
more
complicated
way,
is
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
allow
sensitive
addition
of
housing
stock
in
existing
developed
areas.
A
So
we
have
a
little
bit
of
that
in
the
code
now
with
the
adus
that
that
were
actually
put
in
the
code
before
the
most
recent
update
to
the
zoning
code,
and
we
have
cottage
development
is
another
one
that
can
be
used
in
some
areas
of
town
that
can
supply
smaller
scale
housing,
but
still
has
a
number
of
development
requirements
for
those
lots.
A
A
Many
of
them
have
great
access
to
transit,
which
we
are
always
trying
to
bolster
the
more
riders
that
our
transit
can
get
the
more
beneficial
it
can
be
to
the
community
as
a
whole,
and
also
of
course,
many
of
these
areas
are
close
to
existing
amenities
or
employment,
such
as
parks
or
downtown
or
iu.
A
These
are
places
where
it
could.
It
benefits
whoever
lives
there
benefits
greatly
from
living
there,
and
we
would
like
to
include
as
an
option
for
development
that
some
slightly
more
slightly
more
dense
than
historic
than
most
recently
in
history
has
been
typical
uses,
be
allowed
to
go
back
into
those
areas.
C
Jackie,
it's
also
important
to
point
out
that
there
were
problems
with
the
language
that
was
written
into
the
code
when
it
was
updated.
And
so
oh.
A
C
A
Yes,
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out.
Yes,
so
in
the
code,
the
way
that
it
was
amended
by
council
when
the
table
was
changed,
permitted
and
conditional
markings
were
removed,
but
asterisk
asterisks
remained
and
we
have
we
have
been
advised
by
legal,
because
we
have
tried
to
use
it
numerous
times
since
april
and
it's
not
usable
and
probably
also
not
defendable.
So
we
need
to
clean
that
up
and
we're
going
to
have
to
bring
that
back,
no
matter
what
we
also
would
like
to
point
out.
A
As
I
said
a
little
bit,
you
know
we
are
looking
for
in
the
whole
code
to
find
ways
to
encourage
more
housing,
stock
and
more
housing
options
for
people
in
the
community.
A
Plexus
aren't
the
only
thing
that
are
going
to
do
that.
Adus
aren't
the
only
thing
that
are
going
to
do
that.
You
know
we
also.
We
offer
development
bonuses
for
inclusion
of
workforce
and
affordable
housing,
and
that
will
take
that
will
contribute
to
that
that
portion
of
maybe
a
lower
income
need.
We
also
have
proposed
as
kind
of
the
other
side
of
the
coin
of
the
plexes
is
the
ms
zoning
district.
We
see
those
as
going
hand
in
hand
where
it's
easier
to
develop
what
people
would
traditionally
see
as
student
housing.
A
So
all
scales
of
student
housing,
smaller
projects
as
well,
that
have
more
bedrooms
per
unit
as
well
as
large
projects
it
had.
You
know
to
develop
in
bloomington,
has
been
pretty
complicated
for
a
number
of
years
with
our
different
waiver
systems
that
we've
had
in
the
past,
and
this
code
really
makes
that
development
more
predictable.
A
And
we
think
that
that's
positive
to
add
more
units
away
from
existing
neighborhoods
that
focus
on
the
student
population
and
a
place
for
places
for
them
to
be
located.
That
make
sense
for
why
they're
here.
So
you
know
it
close
to
town
but
as
well,
very
close
to
campus,
and
we
think
that
that
that
can
help
take
off
some
of
the
pressure
that
we
hear
about
for
the
neighborhoods
and
student
rentals
as
well.
A
A
Right
now,
we're
just
in
an
information
gathering
process.
We
are.
We
did
re-bring
up
the
plex
discussion
for
some
of
the
reasons
that
I
have
mentioned.
We
have.
We
are
trying
to
see
this
as
us,
putting
out
a
set
of
ideas
and
a
map
and
taking
feedback
on
those
so
that
we
can
that
can
help
us
craft
a
draft
of
the
zoning
map
and
text,
amendment
proposal
that
will
go
to
plan
commission
in
january
and
obviously,
eventually
on
to
council
yeah.
A
So
this
process,
if
you
haven't
been
involved
in
one
before,
is
the
same
as
it
has
been
in
the
past.
So
we
think
that's
important
to
note,
because
there
has
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
whether
or
not
taking
input
on
a
text.
A
Amendment
in
this
way
that
has
already
been
discussed
recently
is
democratic
and
yes,
it
is
we
and
we
want
to
get
as
much
input
as
possible,
and
we
again
would
like
to
find
a
way
which
we
kind
of
didn't
end
up
having
time
for
last
time
to
work
more
closely
with
the
neighborhoods
and
the
elected
and
appointed
officials
to
find
a
way
to
be
able
to
sensitively.
Add
that
option
so
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
briefly
discuss
a
couple
more
things,
we've
heard
and
then
get
back
to
scrolling.
A
Through
this
presentation
there
has
been
some
concern
related
to
property
value.
We've
heard
two
things
that
one
is
won't
the
addition
of
plexus
increase,
my
property
value
and
taxes
beyond
the
threshold
that
I
would
be
able
to
bear.
So
we,
yes,
we
hear
that
concern.
That
makes
sense.
We
understand,
logically,
that
that
would
be
a
concern
for
people
who
have
existing
equity
in
their
homes
and
living
in
these
neighborhoods.
We
are
looking.
A
We
have
looked
at
property
values
and
how
they're
increasing
you
know,
spot
checking
properties
throughout
the
neighborhoods,
rentals
and
homeowner
properties,
and
those
values
are
already
increasing.
They
are
increasing
exponentially
over
time,
some
of
them
a
lot
and
it's
because
what
you've
all
have
said,
rental
companies
are
often
able
to
purchase
for
sale
properties
at
inflated
prices
that
forces
the
assessor
to
revalue
your
neighborhoods
and,
in
some
cases,
increasing
your
tax
burden
beyond
what
it
would
likely
be
if
you
were
all
owner
occupied.
A
That
is
entirely
true,
but
that
is
already
happening.
What
we
need
to
what
we
are
hoping
that
this
that
this
proposal
could
help
do
is
to
help
find
a
way
to
lower
the
percentage
of
parcels
in
your
neighborhoods
that
are
rentals.
A
We
do
want
to
encourage
home
ownership
and
if,
if
we
can't
figure
out
a
weight
regulatory
way
to
help,
do
that,
then
the
increase
the
exponential
increase
of
your
property
values
as
those
properties
turn
over
and
are
purchased
by
entities
that
can
afford
more,
isn't
going
to
stop
adding
the
option
for
plexes
in
combination
with
the
ms
zoning
district,
we
think
can
help
lower
that
percentage
right,
so
creating
more
units
that
are
available
to
renters
can
free
up
units
that
are
renting
now
to
be
homeowner
occupied.
A
A
second
kind
of
other
side
of
the
coin
we've
heard
about
this
is
a
lot
of
people
have
concern
that
allowing
plexus
in
their
area
will
decrease
their
property
value
our
plan.
What
we
would
like
to
do
and
again
are
looking
for
input
on
ideas
about
how
this
might
work
is
that
we
would
like
to
allow
plexus
on
a
slow
monitored
basis.
So
making
you
know
the
wholesale
decrease
of
a
neighborhood,
the
property
values
in
the
neighborhood
very
unlikely.
A
We
you
know
when
we
did
ad,
when
we,
when
ads,
were
approved
by
council
the
first
time
they
we
reported
to
them
year
yearly,
and
that
was
helpful
for
them
to
see.
We
would
report
how
many
had
been
petitioned.
You
know,
did
we
receive
any
remonstrance?
Where
were
they
located?
A
What
types
of
you
know
situations
were
they
being
built
in
and
in
that
way
then
the
then
the
elected
officials
were
able
to
if
it
had
been
something
that
that
was
not
meeting
our
goals
and
their
goals,
then
we
could
have
stepped
in
and
changed
the
process,
and
that
is
what
we
would
anticipate
happening
here,
that
we
would
monitor
greatly
and
monitor
closely-
and
we
said
this
last
time,
but
just
for
everyone
who,
if
you
don't
know
you,
know
all
building
department,
all
building
permit
applications
come
through
our
department.
A
They
come
through
my
group,
so
the
four
people
here
tonight
we
see
all
of
them.
I
see
every
single
one
and
the
three
planners
issue
them.
We
monitoring
them
and
keeping
track
of
how
many
there
are
where
they're
located,
who
is
building
them?
These
are
all
things
that
we
can
easily
do
and
we
can
have
a
set
standard
for
what
we're
looking
for
for
things
that
we're
afraid
are
shifting
from
what
our
goals
were.
A
C
Jackie
real
quick,
I
just
want
to
also
point
out
you
know.
A
lot
of
these
concerns
were
raised
with
the
accessory
dwelling
units
when
those
were
approved
and
in
that
first
year
we
only
did
maybe
two
or
three
approvals
for
those
accessory
dwelling
units
and
and
very
few
of
those
actually
ended
up
being
constructed
due
to
a
lot
of
costs
that
were
realized
after
the
fact.
C
A
Yes,
thank
you.
So
we
have
so
we
were
able
to
report
to
council
what
was
happening.
I
think
we
maybe
had
six
that
were
in
the
pipeline
of
approvals,
the
first
time
we
reported
to
them
and
then,
through
the
next
zoning
update,
we
changed
the
regulation
slightly
and
we
have
had
more,
and
so
we
will.
When
we
go
back
to
plan
commission,
we
will
report
on
those
totals
that
are
up
to
date.
A
At
that
time
I
would
say
less
than
20,
I
believe
15
to
20
off
the
top
of
my
head.
C
A
Right,
so
I
think
that
that
is
a
fair.
Thank
you
point
a
thing
to
point
out
that
a
lot
of
the
worries
that
have
been
expressed
about
plexus
were
also
expressed
about
adus
and
we
haven't
seen
any
of
those
bear
out,
and
it's
been
a
more
than
three
years.
I
believe.
But
again
we
still
do
track
those
and,
if
that
were
to
change
or
if
it
seemed
like
the
regulations,
we
put
in
place
that
people
were
skirting
them.
A
Somehow
we
could
change
that,
and
that
is
what
we
would
propose
to
do
with
the
flexes.
I
guess
my
last
my
last
point
of
things
that
we
have
heard
before
I
go
back
to
the
presentation
is
some
people
have
said
they
don't
think
we
have
a
need
for
more
housing.
So
we
would
like
to
direct
everyone
and
we'll
put
a
link
up
on
the
website
to
the
housing
study
that
was
done
recently
and
we
do
need
housing.
We
have.
A
We
have
a
very.
We
have
a
very
low
vacancy
rate
and
incredibly
low
so
lower
than
then
the
threshold
of
when
you
should
be
concerned
about
how
much
housing
you
have
and
as
the
years
compound-
and
we
don't
address
that
it's
only
getting
worse.
So
you
know.
Sometimes
we
hear
people
say:
oh,
you
only
need
to
add
500
units
a
year
and
you're
letting
you
know
someone
build
a
1
000
bedroom
student
housing
project
and
that
it
that
is
true,
but
we
are
like
we
are
at
a
we.
A
Okay,
so
the
changes
that
are
being
proposed
if
you've
looked
at
the
first
story
map.
This
is
the
same
information
we
are
proposing
to
add
duplex
dwellings,
triflex
dwellings
and
fourplex
dwellings
as
either
permitted
or
conditional
in
the
primarily
residential
zoning
districts.
So
you
can
use
this
little
slide
tool,
and
you
can
see
here.
This
is
the
existing
r1
did
not
yet
exist.
A
It
exists
on
paper,
but
it
wasn't
mapped
when
this
table
was
done
and
you
can
see
those
asterisks,
those
four
asterisks
in
the
middle
that
don't
have
c's
or
p's.
That
is
the
problem
that
we
have
to
address
per
legal.
So
we
we
do
have
to
bring
this
forward
either
way,
whether
or
not
we
make
them
permitted
and
conditional
in
these
areas-
and
this
is
the
proposal
that
we
are
putting
forward
for
discussion.
A
So
it
would
be
that
duplexes
are
permitted
in
the
in
all
of
the
primarily
residential
districts
that
triplexes
are
conditional
in
everything,
but
are
four
and
that
four
plexes
are
I'm
sorry
in
r2
and
r3
they're
conditional
and
then
permitted
in
r4,
and
that
four
plexes
would
be
conditional
in
r3
and
permitted
in
r4
the
one
listed
at
the
bottom
that
you
see,
dwelling
multi-family
conditional
that
is
already
in
the
code
that's
in
r4
and
there
is
a
restriction
on
number
of
units.
I
believe
it's
eight.
A
So
for
those
of
you
who
don't
spend
your
time
looking
at
zoning
code,
p
means
permitted.
So
it's
allowed
in
that
zoning
district.
A
c
is
conditional
use,
which
means
you
have
to
get
a
conditional
use
of
permit,
which
requires
a
conditional
use
of
approval
from
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
or
hearing
officer,
and
then
the
asterisk
indicates
that
there
are
you
specific
standards
for
those
uses
in
the
districts
and
with
that
which
the
astrix
appears
so,
for
example,
here's
a
duplex
we
have
in
town.
A
If
this
duplex
were
to
be
new
and
any
of
the
four,
we
are
proposing
that
in
any
of
the
four
main
zoning
districts
residential
zoning
districts,
that
the
youth
specific
standards
would
indicate
that
the
building
the
new
duplex
would
have
to
be
similar
in
general,
shape
size
and
design.
With
those
items
listed
below
below
number
two
here
at
the
center
of
your
screen,
so
roof
pitch
front,
porch
width
and
depth,
front
depth,
front,
building
setback
and
vehicle
parking
access,
and
then
no
duplex
duplex
could
contain
more
than
six
total
bedrooms.
A
That's
those
things
have
carried
over
from
what
has
already
been
approved,
and
we
are
open
to
suggestions.
This
is
what
we're
looking
for.
Does
this
seem
like
enough?
Does
this
seem
like
duplexes
could
be
built
sensibly
in
your
neighborhoods
and
still
be
viable
same
conditions
for
triflexes
and
four
plexes
and
they're
just
in
the
different
areas,
as
I
mentioned
before
so
we've
talked
about,
I've
talked
about
this
a
little
bit.
You
know
we
are
trying
to
make
desirable
home
locations
more
accessible
to
a
wider
swath
of
people
in
bloomington.
A
A
So
there's
some
comprehensive
plan
guidance
here
that
encourages,
of
course,
smart
growth
providing
equitable
housing
access.
You
know
being
realistic
about
our
population
growth
and
that
we
need
to
increase
our
opportunities
for
housing
and
that
we
should
be
doing
that
for
across
the
board
and
obviously
development
in
new
areas,
though
it
can
be
done,
though
it
could
be
focused
on
affordable
housing.
Of
course,
when
a
new
area
has
to
put
in
all
of
the
infrastructure,
do
all
of
the
clearing.
A
You
know,
for
example,
in
the
sudbury
pub
there's
only
so
those
properties
can
only
be
so
affordable
without
incentives
from
from
the
government
because
of
all
the
work
that
goes
into
putting
those
in,
whereas
in
existing
neighborhoods.
A
A
lot
of
that
infrastructure,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
is
already
there
so
again,
duplexes
allowed
across
the
board
in
the
residential,
primarily
residential
zoning
districts.
You
can
use
these
maps
if
you
haven't
come
to.
One
of
these.
These
are
will
be
up
on
the
website.
You
can
use
these
maps
to
turn
to
explore
these.
You
can
zoom
in
and
you
can
type
in
your
address.
You
can
turn
the
short
districts
on
and
off
so
we
have
duplexes.
A
And
as
we've
stated
before-
and
you
know
has
been
said
many
times
at
the
these
meetings
and
the
ones
that
we
had
last
year,
they
already
exist.
We
have
them
in
bloomington
and
in
some
of
these
older
historic
neighborhoods,
and
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
let
that
use
expand
there
and
in
other
parts
of
town,
because
we,
I
think
it
can
be
done
sensitively
and
are
looking
to
find
out
what
those
parameters
should
be.
A
Triplex
is
a
little
bit
more
restricted
because
of
adding
the
conditional
as
opposed
to
permitted
in
some
areas
and
again
we
have
those
in
town
already
and
four
plexes
again
restricted
again.
So
there's
been
some
question
about
why
the
r4,
for
example,
that
why,
as
you
go
up,
the
chain
of
the
districts
are
more
things
permitted
as
opposed
to
being
conditional
or
not
allowed.
So
the
answer
is
tied
into
what
I
said
about
the
infrastructure
and
amenities
that
already
exist
in
those
areas.
A
So
those
are
the
areas
that
the
most
people
should
live.
Just
if
you
were,
you
know,
building
a
new
city.
A
We
would
like
to
we,
as
a
community,
have
said
in
the
past
that
we
would
like
to
discourage
sprawl,
of
course,
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
you
have
to
allow
development
in
town,
and
you
know
it's
all
relative,
and
you
know
if
building
a
building
downtown
is
obviously
closer
to
amenities
and
existing
infrastructure
than
possibly
building
on
the
edge
of
town
or
in
the
county,
and
so
we're
trying
to
find
the
balance
of
where
those
lines
should
be
drawn
about
where
these
plexes
should
be
permitted.
A
So
another
big
question
we've
heard
and
then
I'll
wrap
up
here
is,
will
my
will
the
properties
and
my
property
or
properties
in
my
neighborhood
be
protected
from
demolition,
so
we
kind
of
wanted
to
break
it
down
a
little
bit
to
explain
how
demolition
works
in
town.
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
all
building
permits
applications
come
through
planning
and
transportation
and
we
route
them
to
a
planner
to
issue
the
necessary
planning
permit
to
go
back
to
the
monroe
county
building
department
who
issues
all
building
permits
for
the
county
when
those
come
in.
A
We
look
to
see,
if
is
your
property
in
a
local
historic
district,
so
that
is
the
same
for
demolition
permits.
If
your
property
is
in
a
local,
historic
district,
then
you
have
to
get
approval
from
the
bloomington
historic
preservation
commission
in
order
to
demolish
so
in
a
lot
of
cases.
That
is
also
true
for
it.
It
is
true
for
additions
and
changes
to
houses
just
at
varying
scales.
Each
district
is
different,
but
for
demolition
across
the
board.
A
If
you're
trying
to
take
down
a
structure
in
a
historic
district,
the
bloomington
historic
preservation
commission
has
to
approve
that.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
local
historic
districts
and
you
can
see
here
it's
a
little
bit
harder
to
see
on
this
map.
But
when
you.
A
When
you
zoom
in
to
some
of
the
areas
we've
heard
concern
about
like
here
on
the
west
side
of
town
almost
entirely
in
local
historic
districts,
so
the
bloomington
historic
preservation
commission
has
a
lot
of
has
purview
and
say
about
what
can
be
taken
down
in
those
areas
because
of
their
regulations.
A
The
other
option-
the
second
option,
if
you
so,
if
you
apply
for
a
demo
permit
in
a
historic
district,
you
have
to
get
approval
from
the
bloomington
historic
preservation
commission.
If
they
issue
approval,
then
the
planning
and
transportation
department
issues
you
a
certificate
of
zoning
compliance
and
the
building
department
will
issue
you.
A
demolition
permit
second
option.
A
If
you
are
not
in
the
historic
neighborhoods,
for
example,
in
these
r4
areas
near
bryant
park,
you
may
be
listed
on
the
historic
sites
and
surveys,
historic
sites
and
structures,
survey
for
the
city
of
bloomington
that
was
recently
updated
in
2018.
Those
properties
are
subject
to
demolition
delay.
A
So
in
demolition
delay,
the
bloomington
historic
preservation
commission
gets
to
weigh
in
on
the
historic
value
of
the
property
and
if
they
believe
that
it
is
warranted,
they
can
recommend
designation,
historic,
designation
to
the
common
council
and,
let's
see
and
then-
and
we
have
many
properties
in
town
that
have
been
identified
in
that
way
as
well.
A
So
it's
slightly
less
restrictive,
because
if,
if
they
don't
feel
that
your
property
on
its
own
has
a
stored
value,
then
they
they
can't,
they
will
not
recommend
to
council
that
it
that
it
be
designated,
but
they
do
have
that
extra
layer
of
review.
In
case
your
property
were
to
have
value
to
be
designated
on
its
own
or
in
case.
A
Then
they
wanted
to
look
in
your
area
to
if
there
were
people
in
your
neighborhood
who
are
interested
in
designation,
then
that
is
kind
of
I
would
say
a
bit
of
a
guide
for
them
to
see
using
that
survey
as
a
guide
to
see
what
might
be
appropriate
in
that
area.
A
And
then
the
third
choice
is
that
if
you
aren't
protected
by
either
of
those
historic
preservation,
either
the
guidelines
or
the
survey,
then
your
then
a
building
can
be
demolished
without
any
additional
review.
Beyond
the
need
for
the
certificate
of
zoning
compliance
that
we
issue
to
the
building
department,
and
then
they
can
issue
a
demolition
permit.
So
it's
really
just
one
of
three
options
related
to
demolition.
A
We
we
want
to
focus
on
plexus
as
an
option
right,
so
not
a
mandate,
and
we
want
it
to
be.
We
would
like
to
have
it
included
as
an
available
option
for
people
who
would
like
to
utilize
it
to
for
various
different
reasons.
We
have
also
heard
you
know
that
people
are
worried
about
more
renters.
Well,
plexus,
don't
preclude
ownership,
they
could
be.
Each
side
could
be
owned
separately.
A
A
We
think
that
the
inclusion
of
the
plexus
does
have
a
positive
influence
toward
goals
that
are
well
stated
in
the
community
in
general
and
in
the
comprehensive
plan
related
to
sustainability,
providing
more
opportunity
across
racial
and
socio-economic
lines
for
diversity
by
by
building
on,
but
also
sensitively,
protecting
the
neighborhoods
that
we
have
now
that
are
beloved,
but
making
them
available,
possibly
to
a
wider
swath
of
people
who
otherwise
currently
can't
afford
it
because
of
our
inflated
prices
and
our
shortage
of
housing.
A
So
that
is
what
we're
trying
to
keep
in
mind,
moving
forward
and
trying
to
encourage
and
ask
members
of
the
community
to
think
about
ways
that
they
think
that
could
be
done.
So
that's
what
we're
asking
you
so.
C
Jackie,
I
also
want
to
just
you
know,
point
out:
there's
there's
a
misconception
that
all
rentals
are
student
housing.
You
know
there
are.
There
are
lots
of
working
professionals,
other
people
that
need
housing
that
can't
afford
to
buy
or
don't
have
that
financial
and
renting
is
a
very
viable
option.
So
not
not
all
housing,
that
is
rental,
is
going
to
be
student
occupied.
A
Right,
yes,
that's
true,
so
we
we
have
heard
from
some
people
that
they
don't
that
they're
not
focusing
on
students
and
that
it
isn't
about
students,
but
we
in
the
comments
that
we
have
gotten
through
the
website
and
at
these
meetings
a
lot
of
other
people
are
concerned
about
students.
So
we
do
want.
That
is
a
great
point
to
point
out
that
all
rentals
in
this
town
aren't
students
and
can
are
obviously
available
to
young
professionals
as
well.
A
If
you
have
questions,
please
again,
I
said
this
at
the
beginning.
Some
of
you,
maybe
weren't
here
or
were
here
but
didn't
understand-
please
send
them
to
keegan
or
ryan
roebling.
So
when
you
start
a
chat,
you
can
choose
who
you
are
communicating
with,
and
we
will
try
to
answer
those
here
and
or
put
answers
up
on
the
website
after
tonight.
A
So
do
either
of
you
have
anything
yeah
can.
D
You
have
something.
Yes,
I
have
a
few
questions
from
peter.
If
you
mind,
if
I
just
ask
a
couple
questions
sure
so
the
first
question
was:
why
are
the
small
lot
neighborhoods
targeted
for
the
largest
plexes.
A
Okay,
so
I
explained
this
a
little
bit,
but
I'm
happy
to
explain
it
again,
because
I
know
it's
very
complicated
and
I
maybe
didn't
do
a
great
job.
So
the
r4
is
the
district
that
was
identified
in
the
udo
text
as
the
one
that
was
intended
for
most
urban
and
most
diverse
housing
options
and
that
it
is
also
the
smallest
district.
So
those
areas
near
town
are
the
ones
that
can
offer
the
most
benefit.
If
we
can
add
density
in
those
areas.
A
A
We
would
say,
I
think
that
the
something
that
kind
of
gets
lost-
or
I'm
not
sure,
is
that
the
development
standards
for
building
a
single
family
house
on
any
lot
in
town
aren't
different
than
the
development
standards
for
building
a
plex.
So
a
house
of
the
size
that
is
allowed
by
code
for
one
family
or
one
person
could
be
built
in
any
of
these
areas
to
the
same
size
that
a
house
with
you
know,
four
four
separate
one
beds
or
whatever
could
fit
in
on
the
lot
could
also
be
built.
A
D
A
Sure
so,
when
we
put
our
when
r4
came
through
in
the
code,
we
we
did,
we
do
need.
We
felt
that
we
needed
it,
for
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
mentioned
briefly
is
something
that
we
see
a
lot.
If
you
are
in
the
historic
neighborhoods,
especially
on
the
west
side.
A
Doing
typical
expansion
or
development
of
those
lots
can
be
hard,
because
the
r3
district,
which
is
really
more
designed
for
properties
further
to
the
east
size
wise,
is
also
applied
there,
and
so
variances
are
very
common
for
things
that
you
would
normally
not
think
that
you
would
need
a
variance
for
right.
A
So
you
know
adding
a
small
addition
off
your
kitchen,
or
you
know
a
back
back,
porch
patio
type
thing,
and
so
we
wanted
to
have
a
smaller
district
that
would
allow
bring
those
properties
make
make
continued
development
of
those
properties
easier
and
also
so
we
we
knew
that
that
was
in
the
code.
Sorry,
so
we
knew
that
was
in
the
code,
and
we
do
think
that
it's
useful.
A
There
were
other
ways
we
could
have
done
it.
We
could
have
changed
the
minimum
lot
size
for
r3
and
left
it
all
the
same
or
changed
the
development
standards
and
uses
for
that
and
left
the
district.
You
know
that's
something
that
it
that
is
still
possible,
but
instead
we
went
through
out
of
adding
a
district
working
with
our
consultant
last
time
and
then,
when
it
came
time
to
map
it,
we
had
to
decide
how
we
were
going
to
do
that.
A
A
We,
as
I
said,
also
did
not
make
a
lot
of
kind
of
editorial
or
changes
to
those
lines
during
this
process,
because
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
come
to
the
public
and
explain
that
they
had
been
created
through
the
buffering
process
and
that
before
it
goes
to
plan
commission,
it
certainly
will
change
and
that
it
may
change.
A
You
know
to
make
the
lines
more
regular
or
to
move
more
toward
the
intent,
but
that
that,
where
we
are
now
was
done
through
the
analysis
process-
and
we
know
that
we
know
that
it
will
change.
But
we
just
we're
looking
for
comment
on
kind
of
iteration
that
we
put
forward.
D
Okay,
a
couple
more
quick
ones,
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
someone
else.
But
the
next
questions
were:
how
do
you
plan
to
protect
home
ownership
when
investors
start
buying
core
houses
out
from
under
potential
first-time
home
owners
homeowners,
and
they
also
asked
why
mcdole
gardens
was
not
rezoned
to
r4
sure.
A
I
think
we
talked
about
this
in
another
meeting
from
mr
dorfman,
but
mcdole
was
not
selected
because
of
the
reasoning
that
we
gave
the
analysis.
The
analysis
that
we
just
went
through
for
how
r4
was
selected.
They
didn't
have
lots
that
met
that
requirement.
So
that's
that's
the
reason.
That's
part
of
what
that's
part
of
why
I'm
saying
we
didn't
make
subjective
dis
just
subject
it.
We
didn't
make
calls
outside
of
the
analysis
at
this
point
and
so
they
weren't
included.
Will
you
read
the
first
one
again
sorry
keegan
yeah.
D
No
worries:
how
do
you
plan
to
protect
homeownership
when
investors
start
buying
core
houses
out
from
under
potential,
first-time
homeowners.
A
Some
people
are
fortunate
enough
to
be
able
to
first
time
home
buyers
are
fortunate
enough
to
be
able
to
buy
homes
in
town,
but
most
are
not
in
the
historic
neighborhoods,
which
I
think
is
what
he's
referring
to.
So
that's
already
an
ongoing
process.
A
So,
as
I
described,
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
put
forth
a
plex
plex
proposal,
plex
addition
into
the
code
that
makes
sense
scale
wise
on
a
small
small
scale
as
far
as
being
compatible
with
the
neighborhoods,
and
we
would
like
to
monitor
that
very
closely
over
the
course
of
months
and
probably
years
to
see
if
that
fear,
if
that
fear
is
founded,
then
we
would
change
it.
It's
it's
code
and
it
it
can
be
changed.
We
change
them.
A
Often
again,
as
mr
grulick
pointed
out,
this
similar
concerns
were
raised
in
the
adu
process
that
we
wouldn't
keep
track
of.
Who
was
building
them,
and
you
know
that
local.
A
The
local
landlords
would
buy
properties
and
you
know
sneakily
build
adus
and
they
would
be
be
all
over
town
basically,
and
that
has
not
happened,
but
we
do
what
we
do
look
out
for
them
and
we
we
are.
We
were
monitoring
them
very
closely
at
the
beginning
to
make
sure
that
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
were
raised
did
not
occur,
and
that's
what
we
would
try
to
do
here.
A
So,
yes,
we
would
have
to
try
it,
and
you
know
we
could
take
legislation
forward
in
a
matter
of
months
or
less
probably,
but
we
don't.
We
think
that
the
regulations
can
be
written
in
such
a
way
that
they
can
be
less
desirable
for
larger
developers,
and
we
are
working
on
that,
and
that
is
the
kind
of
input
that
we
are
hoping
to
kind
of
solicit,
or
we
we've
gotten
some
good
idea.
A
Some
really
helpful
thoughts
about
concerns
about
neighborhoods
and
what
types
of
what
specific
things
neighbors
are
concerned
about
and
how
we
need
to
address
those,
and
obviously
one
of
them
is
losing
housing
stocks.
So,
yes,
we
are
looking
at
that
in
the
update
that
will
go
to
plan
commission
and
trying
to
build
that
in
as
much
as
possible
and
then
also
monitor.
B
A
B
B
Yes,
I
do
so
I
have
a
several
that
came
in
from
one
viewer
or
participant
in
the
zoom
call
they're,
not
all
worded
as
questions.
So
I'm
going
to
try
to
word
any
that
I
can
in
questions
and
then
ask
ones
that
aren't
questions
in
that
way.
So,
but
some
of
these
may
be
better
answered
just
on
the
website
anyway.
I'll
just
say
that,
because
they're
a
little
bit
more
detailed,
then
we
could
probably
get
into
so
so.
B
The
first
is
when
and
how
often
or
explain
excuse
me
explain
what
conditional
use
means.
A
Sure
so
conditional
use
means
that
the
community
has
decided
that
the
use
is
is
appropriate
for
that
area,
but
that
it
needs
an
extra
scrutiny
than
permitted
use.
Normally
would
so.
It
has
to
be
shown
that,
through
the
conditional
use
standards
which
you
can
customize
for
the
use,
it
has
to
be
shown
that
it
can
be
done
within
those
parameters
in
the
location
where
the
conditional
use
is
required,
and
that
has
to
be
shown
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
A
They
have
to
agree
with
you
and
allow
you
to
do
that
there.
So,
for
example,
you
know
if
you
have
a
if
you
have
a
some
sort
of
business
use
that
maybe
has
like
a
typical
for
some
reason.
You
have
a
lot
of
extra
traffic
and
you
want
to
locate
in
an
area
where
that's
atypical.
A
Your
zoning
code
may
allow
that,
if
it's
as
a
conditional
use,
so
you
have
to
then
go
and
show
how
you're
going
to
how
your
use
isn't
going
to
cause
the
issues
that
sometimes
that
use
does
cause
and
that
you
meet
the
requirements
of
the
zoning
code.
A
Some
specific
to
your
use
that
don't
change
the
character
of
the
area,
even
though
it's
possible
that
the
type
of
use
you're
requesting
sometimes
does
eric.
Do
you
have
additional
thoughts
on
that
or
ryan?
B
How,
when,
and
how
often
does
the
zoning
appeals
deny
a
conditional
use?
Oh.
A
That's
a
good
question.
Well,
let's
see
we
had
when
we
had
a
number
of
medical
assisted
facilities
over
near
the
old
hospital
site.
That
is
probably
the
last
time
conditional
uses
have
really
been
more
a
little
bit
more
controversial.
Typically,
if
you
are
going
to
apply
for
conditional
use
and
the
code
has
specific
usage,
specific
conditions
for
your
use,
when
you
work
with
staff,
we're
going
to
tell
you
whether
or
not
you
meet
those,
and
if
you
don't
we'll,
tell
you
we're
going
to
recommend
denial,
it's
very
unlikely.
A
You'll
get
this
conditional
use
request
and
then
people
don't
file
them.
So
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
misleading
thing
about
variances
and
conditional
uses.
That
has
been
said
just
over.
It's
just
said
off
in
different
contexts,
but
that
you
know
variances
are
never
denied
and
conditional
uses
are
never
denied
if
you
meet
the
requirements,
you're
not
denied,
but
you
by
the
time
you
get
to
the
point
where
you
are
requesting
from
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
A
You
have
already
been
vetted
by
staff
and
if
those
conditions
are
written
in
such
a
way
that
they
meet
the
community
goals
and
protect
the
existing
areas
from
the
potential
harm
of
those
uses,
then
you
should
be
able
to
go
in.
The
community
has
said
that
that,
under
certain
conditions,
you
can
go
in.
So
if
you
meet
those
conditions,
then
you
can
go
in
so
usually
once
it
gets
to
that
point
at
the
board
of
zoning
appeals,
then
they
do
approve
them.
C
So
jackie
one
thing
I
want
to
add
with
that-
and
this
is
also
again
coming
from
the
experience
with
the
accessory
dwelling
units
is
we
we
told
the
neighborhood
associations
that
we
would
be
taking
all
the
adu
requests
to
neighborhood
association
meetings
that
they
had.
C
So
when
we
go
to
those
neighborhood
association
meetings
and
the
prospective
homeowner
was
there,
they
would
hear
concerns
from
adjacent
neighbors
if
there
were
things
that
they
could
do
to
address
those
concerns.
Add
landscaping
move
something.
You
know
those
those
conversations
were
very
beneficial
and
resulted
in
a
lot
of
those
concerns
being
vetted
and
resolved
ahead
of
time
and
resulted
in
you
know
a
conditional
use
process
where
we
recommended
approval
and
overall
people
were
in
favor
of
it,
because
those
conversations
and
interactions
had
already
happened
before
it
even
got
to
the
hearing.
B
B
A
So
in
the
r4
the
currently
proposed.
Well,
it's
actually
it's
already.
In
the
code.
The
height
maximum
is
40
feet
and
the
height
maximum
in
the
r3,
which
is
some
you
know.
Similarly
developed,
is
35.
in
both
districts.
So
in
the
r4,
no
matter
what
you
build,
single
family
or
plex,
the
maximum
height
is
40
feet,
so
anything
can
be
built
within
the
40
feet.
A
So
then
ryan
brings
up
what
we
call
the
building
envelope,
which
is
basically
the
area
on
the
lot
that
can
be
developed
once
you're
meeting
height
requirements,
setback
requirements
on
all
four
sides
open
space
or
what
we
call
impervious
surface
coverage
requirements
once
those
four
things
are
met,
then,
depending
on
the
size
of
your
lot,
you're
left
with
a
core
area
that
can
contain
building
form,
so
your
house
or
your
garage
and
your
house
and
or
garage
and
those
restrictions,
and
that
envelope
that's
created
currently
is
the
same,
whether
you're
building
single
family
or
one
of
the
plexus.
B
There
was
a
second
smaller
part
about
it.
Oh
sorry,
parking
that
that's
fine!
You
got
that
part.
Oh.
A
Do
you
know
the
parking
answer?
I
I
just
don't
think
that's
on
my
head.
A
Sorry,
okay
hold
on
there
are
prescribed
parking
requirements
on
the
lot
for
plexus.
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
think
of
the
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
we'll
put
that
on
the
website.
B
Sorry,
I
didn't,
I
didn't
realize
you
were
asking
me:
it's
halfway,
half
a
parking.
I
should
have
no.
B
Half
a
parking
space
per
per
unit
per
dwelling
unit.
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
so
there
is
some
parking
on
the
lot
required,
and
then
I
got
a
question
as
well
asking
you
know,
isn't,
isn't
on
straight
parking
available
for
these
uses.
A
It
is
in
areas
where
I'm
not
as
familiar,
but
in
areas
where
there
are
neighborhood
zones
we
would
have
to
look
into
and
we
can
look
into
what's
the
threshold
where
you
can
no
longer
what's
the
threshold
of
number
of
units
where
you
can
no
longer
get
a
neighborhood
zone,
in
which
case
it
would
you
would
obviously,
if
you
wanted
parking
needed
to
be
on
site.
C
So
for
the
the
on-street
parking
they
can
only
count
the
spaces
directly
in
front
of
their
lot.
So
you
know
if
it's
a
40-foot
lot.
For
instance,
they
can
only
count
two
parking
spaces
that
would
apply
to
their
parking
requirement.
A
Oh
yeah,
oh
I
didn't
realize
they
could
have.
Okay,
that's
fine
yeah!
We
will.
We
will
post
parking
information
it
it's.
We
will
post
parking
information
that
is
existing.
It's
not
new,
we're
not
proposing
any
changes
with
that
currently.
So
that
is
just
in
the
udo
that
you
can
find,
obviously
on
our
website.
If
you
want
to
go
there,
but
we
will
link
that
to
the
update
page.
A
A
Can
you
define
affordable?
Is
there
a
target
amount
of
monthly
rent
mortgage
payment
utilities,
equaling,
affordability,
so
great
question,
I
think,
for
for
this
particular
proposal,
I
think
affordability
is
usually
looked
at
more
as
a
percentage
of
involving
the
area,
median
income
and
percentage
of
that
income
and
how
much
you're
still
spending
for
this
particular
proposal.
A
We
are
just
using
it
in
a
more
broad
term
of
of
toward
the
goal
of
creating
more
units
so
that
all
units
or
units
in
some
areas
that
the
price
would
go
down.
So
no,
we
do
not
have.
We
are
not
currently
discussing
a
target
monthly
rent
amount
for
the
plexes.
A
A
Oh
parking,
okay,
good
keegan
you
have
another
one.
D
Yeah,
I
have
a
two
questions
from
kevin
atkins.
The
first
question
is:
how
would
you
come,
how
do
adus
compare
with
plexes.
A
Okay,
so
adus
have
size
restrictions,
they
are
required
on
lots
of
owner
occupancy
and
and
they
also
cannot
be
sold.
So
I
think
those
are
the
big
difference
they.
They
also,
I
believe,
well,
that
they
have
design
including
size
restrictions.
A
They
have
design
restrictions,
including
size,
where
that's
particular
to
the
unit
where
in
this,
where,
in
this
current
proposal
for
plexus
plexus
do
not,
they
also
can
only
be
built
on
a
lot
where
the
owner
of
the
lot
lives
on
the
lot
so
either
in
the
main
house
or
in
the
adu,
and
that
is
not
required.
A
Currently
in
the
proposal
for
duplexes
and
I'm
sorry,
I'm
blanking,
I
said
a
third
thing,
but
they
are
pretty
they're
restricted
in
that
they're
their
size,
maximum,
there's
a
size,
maximum,
a
maximum
number
of
people
who
can
live
there.
The
family
limitation
would
be
similar
to
duplexes,
but
the
oh.
The
option
for
ownership
of
the
second
unit
is
non-existent
in
an
adu
where
in
duplex
it
that
is
possible.
So
that's
the
kind
of
the
third
big
difference.
B
I'll
add
one
more
thing:
yes,
we
can
have
a
detached
adu
duplexer.
All
plexuses
have
to
be
under
the
same
roof.
D
The
second
question:
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
address
it's
more
about
the
rental
vacancy
rates,
but
the
the
question
is:
is
the
rental
vacancy
rate
real
or
is
it
a
byproduct
of
false
over
reporting
by
large
apartment
complexes
which
have
received
tax
abatements
based
on
occupancy
versus
older
non-rebated
units,
which
would
pay
higher
taxes
if
they
have
high
occupancy.
A
Well,
the
professionals
that
we
hired
to
do
this
study,
who
do
them
all
over
for
the
housing
study,
did
indicate
that
they
think
they're
real.
I
think
it's
a
fair
question.
I
mean
you
know
I
think,
there's
a.
I
think
it's
a
fair
question
that
there's
a
lot
of
concern
in
town
about
whether
or
not
what
sort
of
impacts
the
large
apartment,
complex
houses
have
and
how
much
influence
they
have.
A
So
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
study,
they
actually
post
to
two
vacancy
rates,
one
that
one
that
was
slightly
larger
and
then
one
that
was
determined
after
more
interviews
with
the
existing
developments
in
town.
They
were
both
very
low,
so
I
I
do
think
it's
a
real
issue.
A
I
think
just
the
I
think,
just
for
more
of
like
a
layman's
side
with
the
amount
that
it
costs
to
rent
in
this
town
and
how
long
it
takes
to
how
long
in
advance
you
have
to
find
something
and
where
those
are
available.
I
I
think
it's
clear
that
we
do
have
a
housing
issue
and
whether
or
not
we
can
guarantee
the
vacancy
rates.
Of
course,
we
can't.
D
And
just
one
thing
to
clarify
kevin
says
that
his
the
question
about
adus
was
more
related
to
eric's
comment
about
how
adus
and
duplexes
that
edu's
didn't
wouldn't
create
as
big
of
a
disruption
and
like
our
duplex
is
going
to
be
similar.
Do
we
think
that
that's
similar,
I
think,
is.
A
Oh
okay,
so
I'll
try
and
then
let
us
know
if
I
missed
the
mark.
We
think
that
while
we
understand
the
concern,
obviously
this
is
people's
livelihoods.
This
is
your
equity.
This
is
where
you've
lived
for
decades
or
not.
You
know
shorter
amounts
of
time
or
is
the
place
that
we
all
love.
We
understand
the
concern.
A
We
think
that
adding
plexus
as
a
sensitive
option
is
not
going
to
flip
the
switch
on
plex
development,
like
some
people
have
feared
so
yet
we
do
think
that
it
will
mirror
the
adus
and
that
the
fears
will
not
be
found
founded
yeah,
that's
what
we
think
based
on.
A
Included
in
single-family
areas
in
other
communities
and
they
have
rolled
out
very
softly.
We
have
heard
comments
from
some
local
developers
who
have
discussed.
You
know
that
the
the
costs
really
often
don't
add
up.
So
we
think
that
plexus
will
end
up
being
available
to
the
people
who
we
have
kind
of
identified
as
needing
the
most,
which
is
people
who
can
who
aren't
students
and
can
have
you
know
a
family
development
or
small
scale
owner
occupied
renting
the
other
side,
setups.
D
A
Patrick
asked
can
two
or
more
lots
of
you
can
combine
to
create
a
larger
building
site?
Yes,
the
code
allows
for
for
yes,
the
code
allows
for
that,
but
also
just
to
make
it
just
to
be
clear,
allows
for
that
now
for
single-family
houses.
But
yes,
two
lots.
You
can
build
over
a
lot
line
in
in
bloomington.
B
Yeah,
so
there
is
a
question
about
you
mentioned
that
the
code
could
be
changed
later,
so
what
type
of
data
would
you
be
monitoring?
How
often
do
you
plan
on
looking
at
it?
Would
this
data
be
shared
with
the
public
and
yeah?
Oh,
could
there
be
a
mandatory
review
or
a
re-evaluation?
A
Yes,
yes,
there
could
be
a
mandatory
review,
so
you
know
I
think
the
administration
tries
to
try
new
things
in
a
like
a
pilot
format
trying
to
create
legislation
that
could
create
opportunities,
and
this
is
just
across
the
board,
but
that
maybe
it
does
need
to
be
revisited,
and
so
is
not.
You
know
necessarily
intended
for
long-term
without
update.
A
So
yes,
what
we
you
know,
for
example,
one
thing
that
we
could
do
is
yes,
it
could
be
baked
in
that
you
know
we
have
to
come
back
to
council
in
six
months
or
quarterly
or
yearly
and
give
or
give
a
report
on
some
of
the
things
I
mentioned.
You
know
how
much
inquiry
are
we
even
getting
for
plexus?
How
many
applications
are
we
getting
for
those
that
are
conditional?
How
many
people
are
we
talking
starting
that
process
with?
How
many
are
finishing
it,
or
is
anybody
actually
pulling
permits
for
that?
A
What
are
the?
What
are
the
characteristics
of
people
who
are
using
them
because
it
has
been?
You
know
we
are
trying
to
increase
number
of
units,
but
we
do
we
can't.
We
do
are
reflecting
back
that.
We
understand
that
the
community
is
concerned
that
it
will
be
only
student
housing
developers.
You
know,
for
us,
a
success
looks
like
a
slow
inclusion
of
plexus
into
existing
neighborhood
areas
across
town,
so
that
small
small
increase
in
densities
can
happen
in
areas
that
already
have
supportive
uses
around
them.
A
So
yeah,
that's
something
that
we
would
work
out,
of
course,
with
the
appointed
and
elected
officials.
Of
course
of
how
often
do
would
they
want
to
see
something
and
what
types
of
things
things
would
they
want
to
see,
but
my
those
things
that
I
mentioned
would
be,
I
think,
the
idea,
the
start
of
an
idea
of
what
types
of
things
we
would
be
tracking
to
make
sure
that
that
the
allowance
of
them
is
working
toward
the
goals
that
we
set
and
not
putting
the
community
at
risk.
A
D
A
Sure
great
question:
yes,
I
think
so
so
what
we've
kind
of
tried
to
mention
before
is
that
the
this
particular
edition
so
the
ms
district.
Clearly,
that
is
a
proposal
targeted
at
student
housing,
it's
in
the
name
and
it's
immediately
adjacent
to
campus,
and
the
purpose
is
for
purposeful
zoning.
For
that
use.
This
plex
use
really
is
for
a
wider
swath
of
the
community.
We
hope
so
it
could
it.
A
The
effect
of
the
cliff
by
including
the
effect
of
the
cliff
would
only
be
if
plexus
were
approved
would
be
that
I'm
sorry,
the
relationship
between
them
would
be
that
there
would
be
less
students
in
the
historic
neighborhoods
right.
That's
what
that's
what
some
people
think
that
once
we
hit
the
cliff,
we
will
have
less
students
around
that
that
you
know
that,
may
that
may
be,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
other
people
in
town.
A
Besides
students,
we
have
growing,
you
know
economic
sectors,
catalans
growing,
you
know
we're
trying
to
grow
our
our
other
sectors
downtown.
A
You
know
attracting
business
to
bloomington
and
one
way
to
do
that
is
to
have
good
quality
available
housing,
and
I
think
if
we
increase
the
number
of
units
available
in
across
town
across
the
whole
of
the
city,
then
that
would
be
a
positive
for
those
other
goals
unrelated
to
whether
or
not
students
would
be
occupying
those
units.
A
And
then,
if
the
cliff
doesn't
happen,
which
I
mean,
I
have
no
reason
to
think
it's
not
going
to
I'm
just
saying.
If
it
doesn't,
you
know,
then,
yes,
there
will
still
be
students
in
these
communities
in
these
neighborhoods
and
more
units.
Doesn't
more
units
can
allow
for
more
units
for
other
other
demographics
than
just
students.
D
And
two
follow-up
questions:
what's
the
incentive
for
developers
or
landlords
to
build
and
operate
affordable
housing,
and
is
there
any
way
that
we
can
assure
that
the
city's
rental
inspection
department
is
fully
staffed
and
aggressively
enforcing
the
local
laws
and
regulations.
A
Sure
great
questions,
thank
you.
So
the
first
question:
some
things
happen
outside
of
our
department,
so
the
housing
and
neighborhood
development
department
and
economic
and
sustainable
development
department
work
with
developers
to
outside
of
our
regulations
to
encourage
inclusion
of
affordable
and
workforce
housing
and
inside
of
the
udo
in
our
regula
in
our
regulatory
world.
We
have
some
development
incentives
for
the
inclusion
of
those
types
of
housing
as
well,
so
that
can
range
from.
I
believe
you
know
your
typical
kind
of
reduced
setback
standards
to
additional
units.
A
If
you
were
building
a
larger,
a
larger
development,
I'm
sorry
keegan
what
was
the
last
one.
D
A
Sure
great,
so
yes,
so
that's
something!
Obviously
we
need
to
work
on.
We
need
to
work
with
them
internally
and
if
there
are
needs
that
are
increasing
if
their
needs
are
increasing.
For
any
reason,
but
especially
because
of
a
regulatory
change
like
this,
then
that
would
be
something
yes.
So
we
would
need
to
explore
with
department
heads
and
the
administration
of
what
sort
of
resources
are
needed
beyond
what
exists
today
and
yeah.
A
We
would
be
we
that
may
need
to
be
done,
and
that
is
obviously,
of
course,
a
little
bit
outside
of
our
purview,
but
something
that
we
have
and
will
continue
to
discuss
within
the
departments
of
what
sort
of
effects
or
changes
this
could
have
on
things
that
are
regulated
by
other
titles
in
the
code,
so,
for
example,
the
rental
title
or
city
services,
and
how
the
how
these
will
affect
that,
and
so
we
are
continuing
to
look
at
it.
It's
a
fair
question.
A
We
know
that
that
is
a
concern
of
people
who
feel
that
sometimes
now
that
they
worry
that
some
of
the
existing
rentals
that
they
have
in
their
areas
of
town
are
already
already
suffer.
B
I
have
a
kind
of
a
piggyback
question
to
that
one
so
yeah
the
there
there
was
a
question
about
maybe
a
misunderstanding
or
must
speak.
That
said,
you
last
meeting
you
discussed,
that
quote,
we
don't
re
enforce
codes
and
then
it
goes
on
to
say:
has
this
changed
because
it
didn't
sound
like
once?
Rezoning
has
changed.
There's
a
lot.
You
can
do
to
keep
code
zoning
code
violations
from
happening.
So
I
think
that
was
you
know,
probably
a
clarification
that
you
might
want
to
address.
A
That
doesn't
say
we
don't
enforce,
covenants
and
restrictions
so
that
that
may
have
been
something
that
was
discussed
and
actually
in
our
particular
group,
where
the
four
of
us
work,
the
other
half
of
our
group.
All
they
do
is
enforce
code
our
code.
Only
so
we
do
enforce
title
20.,
we
don't
enforce
other
titles,
but
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
that
is
related
to,
and
I
can
go
back
and
look
and
try
to
figure
that
out
and
clarified
on
the
website.
A
But
but
we
do
have
enforcement
and
we
we
take
it
very
seriously
and
we
we
escalate
enforcement
as
needed
for
each
violation
as
allowed
by
the
udo
in
order
to
achieve
compliance,
and
that
is
on
larger
scale.
You
know
when
we
have
larger
scale
issues,
but
also
on
smaller
scale.
With
you
know,
we
have
done
that
on
smaller
rentals
and
issues
in
town
as
well
and
do
regularly.
A
I
will
say
to
clarify
patrick,
had
a
question
earlier:
if
a
lot
is
too
small
to
be
under
to
to
build
on
under
current
codes,
how's
it
possible
to
build
bigger
plexes
in
the
smaller
neighborhoods.
So
what
I
was
trying
to
say
was
that
the
r3
that
existed
there
before
in
some
of
these
lots
had
some
setback
requirements
that,
because
the
lots
are
so
small,
made
it
difficult
to
do
additions
and
further
develop
those
lots
by
changing
the
zoning
district
to
r4.
A
We've
now
changed
the
setback
requirements,
so
more
of
the
lot
is
available
for
development
than
would
have
been
under
the
previous
district
and
kind
of
in
the
vein
of
what
you're
asking-
and
I
think
I
said
this
earlier-
but
just
to
be
more
clear.
Yes,
there.
These
lots
may
not
support
larger,
larger
developments,
larger
plex
developments,
some
of
them
won't
be
big
enough
or
they
may
be
able
to
support
smaller
scale.
A
Sensitive
plexes
with,
as
I
mentioned,
like
a
duplex
or
a
triplex
with
three
one
beds,
or
you
know
they
they
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
easily
everyone,
isn't
going
to
easily
support
a
four-plex
with
multiple
bedrooms
in
each.
But
that's,
okay!
That's
that's
a
that's
good.
We
want
the
option
to
be
available
for
those
lots
and
areas
that
can
utilize
the
code
and
the
not
every
lie
has
to
just
like.
A
Not
every
lot
right
now
could
utilize
the
cottage
development
that's
been
in
the
code
since
april,
but
some
can-
and
so
we
want
it
to
be
in
there
for
that
to
be
available.
A
Yeah,
so
we
track,
though
they
still
have
to
we
track
them
through
the
building
permit.
So
even
interior
work
on
your
home
requires
a
building
permit.
Unless
you
know
there
are
a
couple
of,
I
think
instances
or
one
instance
where
that
may
not
be
true,
but
in
in
bloomington,
you
have
to
get
a
building
permit
for
pretty
much
everything
you're
doing
on
your
building.
A
So,
as
I
said
before,
we
see
all
of
those,
and
so
one
of
the
three
current
planners
works
with
the
property
owner
to
make
sure
that
they're
meeting
all
of
the
adu
requirements
listed
in
the
code
and
one
of
those
requirements,
is
to
send
notice
to
the
neighbors
currently
and
then
I
believe,
one
that
is
still
going
to
be
included.
So
you
guys
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
the
zoning
commitment
that
is
required
to
be
recorded.
A
Right,
that's!
Yes,
sorry!
I
was
thinking
affidavit.
Yes,
so
annually
we
will
be
checking
in
each
year
and
as
they
come
through,
we
see
them
come
through
as
a
building
permit.
We
add
them
to
the
list
we
check
in
with
them.
We
make
sure
through
work
with
the
auditor's
office,
that
they
are
in
fact,
owner-occupied
and
then
also
ask
them
to
separately
confirm
that.
A
I
just
wanted
to
address
this
issue.
Jenny
says
this
sounds
I'll.
Just
paraphrase
this
sounds
like
it's
for
developers,
because,
let's
see
people
who
want
to
live
in
a
historic
neighborhood,
but
can't
afford
to
buy
400
000
homes
can't
because
all
the
180
to
300
thousand
dollar
homes
have
been
taken
by
the
developers.
So
yes,
that
is
happening
now
that
that's
not
going
to
stop
happening.
So
if
we
don't
change
something,
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
change
that
is
by
adding
the
easier,
more
predictable,
develop.
A
Developability
of
student
housing,
large
scale
and
small
scale
in
the
multi-family
student
housing
district,
as
well
as
the
plexus,
and
so
the
way
that
that
the
way
that
that
could
work
is
at
some
point
is
that
when
houses
turn
over
to
plexes,
and
especially
if
we
are
going
to
hit
a
cliff
there's
a
finite
number
of
students
in
town
who
want
to
live
off
off
campus
away
from
the
stadium
and
those
things.
A
So
if
the
concern
is
that
developers
are
taking
them
for
student
housing,
if
we
can
add
an
add
more
units,
it's
the
lots
that
we
we
need
to
create.
A
More
lots
that
are
available
for
families,
so
if
we
have
two
lots,
for
example,
that
are
currently
both
being
rented
and
then
one
turns
into
a
duplex
and
those
both
sides
get
rented
and
it
creates
an
opportunity
for
that
second
original
lot
to
be
owned
and
that
we
would
see
hope
to
see
on
a
wider
scale
that
the
small
inclusion
of
plexes
across
town
would
open
up
the
availability
of
being
able
to
pick
up
those
homes
for
first-time.
A
And
but
yes,
we
under
we
completely
understand.
There's
a
concern
that
what's
going
to
happen,
is
that
both
lots
are
going
to
be
picked
up
and
both
lots
are
going
to
turn
into
rentals.
And
now
all
now
they're
going
to
be
four
units
on
these
lots.
Instead
of
two-
and
we
understand
that
and
that's
why
we're
trying
to
create
regulations
that
that
make
that
less
likely
and
also
to
track
track
moving
forward
so
that
if
it
appears
to
be
going
that
way
that
we
can
change
it.
C
C
A
Yes,
thank
you.
I
did
yeah,
I
I
you're
right.
Sometimes
I
I
say
the
thing
that
I
think
is
already.
I
don't
see
the
thing
that
I
think
is
implicit,
but
it
they're
not
written
for
developers.
We
are
trying
to
find
a
way
to
help
to
help
increase
owner
owner
occupancy
and
help
increase
the
number
of
units-
and
this
is
just
one
of
a
handful
of
ways
that
we
think
could
work
together
to
do
that
and
that's
why
we'd
like
to
include
that
keegan.
Did
you
have
something.
D
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
from
barry
clopper.
This
question
is:
have
you
looked
at
how
the
cost
of
sprinkling
sprinklering,
which
is
required
for
try
and
quadplexes,
would
likely
impact
the
cost
of
development
potentially
resulting
in
lower
quality
construction,
higher
rents
or
an
incentive
to
buy
up
adjacent
lots
to
spread
out
the
cost.
A
Well,
I
mean-
I
guess
looked
at
in
that
we
know
that
that
was
raised
last
time
right
that
and
we
know
just
from
our
dealings
with
every
you
know.
This
is
what
we
do
is
work
in
the
community
on
building
issues
is
that
we
we
know
that
that
sprinkling
could
be
required.
We
would
point
out,
I
think
the
message
gets
a
little.
I
think,
maybe
I'm
being
a
little
unclear.
We
don't
necessarily
think
that
all
of
the
new
units
that
could
be
built
under
plexus
would
be
affordable.
A
We
think
the
addition
of
units
to
the
overall
unit
count
could
have
an
effect
of
bringing
down
unit
cost
across
the
board
or
in
a
neighborhood.
If
so,
yes,
those
might
be
more
expensive,
as
you
know,
and
others
probably
do
too.
I
believe
a
number,
if
not
all,
of
the
homes
on
the
south
dunn
street
pud
are
sprinkled
because
of
their
proximity
to
one
another.
A
Even
though
they're
single
family-
and
I
mean
they
are
not
affordable,
but
they
are
not
wildly
more
expensive
than
homes
in
our
historic
neighborhoods
either.
So
it's
definitely
doable.
Yes,
there's
definitely
a
cost
factor
included,
and
I
think
I
think
the
focus
is.
I
think
what
I
my
main
response
is
that
no,
we
do
not
think
that
every
unit
to
be
built
will
be
will
necessarily
be
affordable.
A
We
are
looking
to
kind
of
put
a
dent
or
have
an
effect
on
the
total
number
of
units
available
in
town
with
a
lot
of
our
processes,
but
with
this
one
as
well.
B
Have
two
that
I
think
could
be
pretty
quick.
D
B
So
one
is:
do
duplexes
lose
their
six
unrelated
occupancy
limit
if
they
were
reverted
back
into
a
house.
A
Yes,
so
that
is
something
we've
heard
over
the
years.
So
I
have
I've
worked
here
for
five
years.
I've
been
manager
of
this
division
for
two,
maybe
in
the
two
years
that
I've
been
involved
in
enforcement.
We
definitely
we
work
closely
with
hand
and
have
we
make
people
put
them
back
so
if
or
they
lose
their
occupancy.
So
you
know
that
is
an
enforcement
issue
that
we
deal
with.
A
And
yes,
if
you
it's
per
unit,
so
if
you
decide
to
take
your
duplex
and
turn
it
into
one
unit,
because
you
know
six
friends
said
they
wanted
to
live
together.
That
was
a
mistake
because
now
you've
lost,
you
know.
You've
lost
your
ability
to
have
six
there,
unless
you
can
turn
it
back
into
a
duplex
yeah.
So
once
something
goes
back
to
a
single-family
design,
then
it
has
to
meet
single-family
requirements,
including
one
kitchen
and
a
maximum
of
three
unrelated
adults
in
the
in
the
history.
A
Oh
great
question:
we
looked
into
that
last
time
and
it's
not
allowed
it's
illegal.
That
would
be
an
easy
that
would
be
an
easy
answer.
I
think,
to
kind
of
get
to
address
what
the
majority
of
people
would
prefer,
that
plexus
be.
We
aren't
allowed
and
we
do
sometimes,
I
think
lose
focus
also
that
it's
okay
to
have
rentals.
You
know
not
they're,
not
all
terrible
neighbors.
A
So
maybe
you
know
that's
probably
part
of
why
it's
not
allowed
to
do
that,
but
but
it's
not
even
something
we
can
explore
it's
illegal
to
say
that
they
have
to
be
there's
a
special
stipulation,
and
I
don't
know
what
it
is
offhand.
I
apologize
that
allows
us
to
include
that
requirement
for
adus.
A
Keegan
or
ryan
do
you
have
one
more
at
seven,
but
we
could
do
one
more,
probably
nobody's
on
muting,
okay,
we
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
everyone
spending
your
time
here
with
us.
We
will
have
another
very
similar
meeting
to
this
on
monday,
so
the
presentation
will
be
similar,
but
of
course
we
never
know
what
the
questions
are
going
to
be,
and
we
appreciate
all
of
your
feedback
and
we'd.
Welcome
you
back
that
day
as
well.
A
We
will
discuss
other
text,
amendments
that'll
that
will
come
forward
on
tuesday
evening.
Both
meetings
at
5,
30
and
the
presentation
will
go
up
on
the
website
and
then
sometimes
next
week
we
will
post
a
final
feedback
form
for
any
more
general
comments
and
then
comments
on
these
proposals
as
well.
Please
do
here
in
the
next
couple
minutes
I'll
leave.
It
open
submit
any
questions
that
you
have
so
that
they
can
be
recorded
in
the
chat
and
we
can
get
to
those
for
the
website
and
again.
A
Thank
you
all
so
much.
We
know
that
this
is
a
a
long,
arduous
process.
We
are
appreciate
your
input
and
really
are
looking
forward
to,
hopefully
being
able
to
find
a
positive
way
to
include
this
in
the
community.
Okay,
thank
you.
Guys
have
a
good
night.