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From YouTube: Bloomington Redevelopment Commission, July 20, 2020
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meeting packet: https://bloomington.in.gov/onboard/meetingFiles/download?meetingFile_id=7351
A
All
right
good
evening,
I
would
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order.
B
Oh
eric
sandvoice,
david
walter,
david
walters,
okay,.
D
Yes,
okay,
all
right,
let's
go
with
the
reading
of
the.
A
B
Sure
simply
to
ask
the
portion
of
our
meeting.
That
was
the.
B
Review
of
the
architectural
plans
does
that
come
under
the.
B
The
the
purview
of
the
minutes,
or
is
that
actually
legally
a.
A
Who's
first
thing:
mike
griffin:
let's
see
thank
you,
it's
gripping
actually.
A
That's
easy
for
me
all
right:
let's
do
it!
I'm
I'm
in
favor,
okay,.
G
The
campus
yes
eric
stan
weiss
david
walter,
yes,
okay,.
A
No
not
opposed
so
the
motion
carries
examination
of
claims.
Is
there
a
motion.
E
David
walter
will,
second,
all
in
favor
I
don
griffin,
yes
nick
kappas.
A
F
No
legal
report,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Okay,.
A
Is
there
a
ctp
update
report,
I'm
gonna
in
the
interest
of
the.
A
That
it's
my
computer,
the
agenda's,
pretty
long
and.
A
Thank
you,
everybody
for
your
reports.
Let's
go
to.
A
Street
or
fourth
guaranteed.
A
Hold
on
approval
of
fourth
guaranteed
maximum.
D
As
you
know,
we
did
a
couple
that
was
our.
D
Initial
start
and
then
things
changed
on
us.
D
And
then
gmp-4
is
the
last
and
final
contract.
D
D
Floor
you
know,
there's
a
there's
kind
of
a
half
floor
on
top
included
the
build
out.
D
Makes
it
easier
for
us
to
attract
especially
local.
D
Essentially,
contract
concrete's
poured
devising
walls
are
put
up.
D
For
parking
services
that'll
be
located
now
in
the
fourth
street.
D
Overall
price,
this
puts
us
right
on
budget.
A
And
offer
a
camp
for
the
public
too,
so
that
we
can
have
as
much
time
as
we.
A
Want
with
the
public
does
anyone.
A
From
the
public
have
any
interest
in
speaking
in
regards
to
resolution.
A
So
jeff,
my
question
then,
is
and
taking
a
look
at.
D
The
start
of
the
of
the
drilled
piers
and
then
gmp-3
would
have
been
the.
D
Construction,
obviously,
we
had
to
stop
two
and
three
because
of.
D
So
excuse
me
mp2
gmp3,
then
was
the.
D
Why
it's
so
small
and
then
gmp
three
four
is
the.
D
The
elevators,
it's
all
the
concrete,
it's
the
art,
not
the
artwork,
but
the.
G
Ever
happened
well,
this
is
the
the
trades
district.
D
And
and
four
street
are
the
first
guaranteed
projects
that
we've
done.
D
D
While
it's
built
into
the
contract,
it's
the
owner's
money,
it
would
have
to
be.
D
Be
issued
as
a
change
order,
but
really
once
you.
B
I
may
absolutely
eric
sanoise
jeff,
just
a
a
couple
of
things,
both.
B
For
for
my
rudimentary
understanding
and
just
for
the
record,
the
first
is,
if
you
could
just.
B
The
13.1
gmp
and
the
17.3
what
what
that
difference.
D
It's
so
if
you
look
at
the
summary,
that's
right
below,
if
you
go
through
all.
D
The
ai
documents-
they
didn't
have
a
page
number
on
it
that
I
could
find
what
I
asked
them
to
do
is
you're.
D
There's
some
additional
cost.
You
know
there's
some
delays,
so
you
know
some
of.
D
Other
than
the
actual
concrete
we
had
at
least
two
bidders
on
each
of
the
packages
that
was
put
out
by
wellhelms.
So
we
thought
we
got
very
good
competitive.
D
Pricing
on
it,
as
well
as
some
very
good
value.
D
Engineering
items
coming
back
from
the
actual
low.
D
Was
a
change
in
so
as
an
example,
the
design
that
we.
D
D
What
was
presented
to
the
plan
commission
so
we
forego
that
savings.
So
it's
been
a
very
thorough
examination
of.
B
D
17
million
dollars
in
the
adjusted
soft
cost
we're
coming.
D
Now
the
19
million
so
we're
slightly
under
budget
today,
if
you.
D
Utility
relocation
costs
the
design
costs.
A
A
Any
other
questions
or
many
questions
or
concerns
from
any.
G
No,
I
guess
I
guess
I
just
need
a
little
bit.
G
Of
I
understand
what
were
the
13
million?
That's
what
we're
voting.
D
Complicated
because
it
you
know,
we
kind
of,
had
fits
and
starts
and
then
just
as
a
reminder
on
fourth
street.
D
Separately
is
kind
of
those.
G
You
know,
okay,
I
appreciate
your
patience
jeff
on
that.
G
Lot
of
money
you
know,
I
know
that.
G
Tip
districts
and
what
you
know
how
how
it
was.
G
Originally
set
up
for
the
fourth
street
garage
with
you
know,
cook,
and
all
of
that
so
just
just
really
interesting
to
be
able.
D
And
with
the
delay,
you
know
extremely
happy
that
we
were
able
to
come
in.
D
Districts
from
a
lot
of
the
suppliers
that
said
hey,
you
know.
D
Really
good
bids
this
time
around,
so
the
fact
that
we.
D
Could
come
in
not
a
whole
lot,
but
somewhat
under.
D
Bonds,
I'm
very
very,
very
happy
with
the.
D
Pricing
one
other
thing
and
we'll
get
you
the.
D
Information
is,
we
will
have
construction
contracts,
cameras
at
both
sites,
the.
D
D
Cameras
bought
we've
just
got
to
get
power.
E
A
question
for
you:
jeff
how
many
parking
spaces.
D
D
David,
I
can
get
you
the
actual
number.
We
we
basically
ended
up.
D
Being
able
to
accept
the
that
sixth
floor.
D
Art's
going
to
make
it
look,
nice
we've
got
a
lot
of
energy.
D
All-Terrain,
you
know
the
bicycle
parking,
the
bicycle
garages,
the.
A
Know
it
it's
it's
the
equivalent
of.
D
Strictly
set
towards
garages.
G
The
packet
says:
550
parking
spaces,
or
something
like
that.
Just
so
that's.
G
Opportunity
to
make
it
as
green
as
possible.
I.
G
Mean
it's
a
lot
of
cement.
You
know
that
we're
pouring
down
and.
C
G
I
guess,
could
there
be
a
possibility
in
the
future.
C
Increase
charging
capacity,
I
actually
think
there's.
E
F
Metal
screens
will
look
like,
as
you
know,
that
we
are
going
back
and
forth.
F
Project
one
is
kind
of
an
up-and-coming
indiana
based
public
art
company.
They.
F
Public
art
project,
one
we're
really
excited.
We
think
this.
C
Is
we
are
not
just
a
fixing,
you
know
a
large
electric
guitar
to
the.
C
Of
public
art
in
this
case,
so
so
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different.
A
It's
not
important,
it's
very
important
to
hear
from
the
public.
Okay,
all
right!
So
let's
go
to
questions.
A
From
commissioners
I
have
one
was
there:
was
there
any
local
artists.
A
F
Okay,
trades
district,
we
thought,
was
a
good
opportunity
to.
F
Open
that
up
to
all
sorts
of
artists,
not
just
the.
F
F
Interest
that
we
thought
would
work
and
the
project
one
had
kind
of
been.
F
Other
projects
with
that,
our
architect
has
also.
F
Trade
register
garage,
for
instance,
that
we
are
looking
for
different
kind
of.
F
Okay,
and
this
was
the
outcome-
I
think
you
were
asking
whether
or
not
we
just.
C
Picked
one
player
just
to
go:
do
it
there
was
a.
A
We
usually
have
a
for
some
of
our
larger
projects
to.
A
Keep
our
bloomington
flavor,
we,
we
usually
have
them
connected
to.
A
A
a
bloomington
architect
so.
A
I
mean
indianapolis,
I
guess
is
close
enough.
I
just.
G
G
And
so
I
think
that
is
a
very,
very,
very
valid
question
and
I
have
to
have
a.
C
There
were
quite
a
few
there
were
there
were,
there
were,
and
I
don't
know.
C
C
What
yes,
d
and
and
overall
the
administration
is
trying
to
do,
is
balance
between
supporting
the
local
art
scene
and.
C
There
are
a
lot
of
opportunities
that
that
we've
put
out
there
to
do
that
and
there
continue
to
be,
and
so
there's
you
know
we
want
to.
We.
C
Want
to
put
local
artists
to
work
on
on
public
projects.
Bloomington
has.
C
Have
you
know,
opportunities
from
from
outside
of
bloomington
that
I.
C
Think
both
you
know,
mixes
things
up
and.
C
That
was
done
with
the
graduate
hotel,
an
important
national,
rising
artist.
C
The
the
the
murals
that
were
done
on
the
garage
on
the
side
of
the
garage
at
morton
street
that
extent
that's
also
a
nationally
recognized
national
artist.
B
More
mundane
simply:
are
there
any
implications
either.
B
Through
the
garage
so
structurally
there
there's
been
coordination
between.
C
C
C
It
be,
you
know
safe,
so
so
structurally,
I.
C
From
a
from
a
visual
safety
and
a
visual
kind
of
airiness
perspective,
that
was.
C
C
Air
throughput,
and
so
so
the
design
was.
C
Was
recognized
as
being
also
sort
of
visually.
C
More
loose
than
than
like,
you
know,
a
big
wall
of
something
for.
C
That
it
does,
among
other
things,
credit
natural
light.
C
B
Okay
to
just
to
follow
up
real
quick,
the
the
difference
between.
B
On
their
scheme,
one
that
they
prefer-
and
I
guess.
B
I
do
too
what's
that
decision
going
to
rest
upon.
C
I
believe
it
blends
better
with
the
artwork.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions,
work
resolution,
folks,
the
public
art.
B
I'll
move
approval
of
20-40.
A
Motion
is
approved
there.
I
don't
there's
no.
F
This
was
part
of
the
attempt
to
acquire
additional.
A
We
don't
okay,
so
commissioners,
let's.
A
If
you
have
any
questions,
let's,
let's
ask
them.
F
The
city
of
bloomington
formally
took
it
to
court
because
of.
F
The
procedures
under
the
law
for
obtaining
property
using.
F
Value
of
the
property
we
we
had
engaged
in
negotiations.
F
Downtown
overlay
to
have
dedicated
non-parking
non-residential.
F
F
Correct
yeah,
so
the
this
would
have
been
the
same
outcome.
For
instance,
if
the
city
had
successfully.
F
Expense
and
in
the
the
any
attorney's
fees
that.
G
Design
included
where
one
was
that
222
south
walnut
or
whatever.
F
F
Why
the
the
extra
land
was
was
was
also
sawed.
There
was
also.
F
We
just
it's
just
this
is
the
best
for
the
community
right
now,.
F
About
that
nick-
and
certainly
your
this
is
this-
is
what
this
is
for.
This.
F
Type
of
discussion
is
that
the
the
original
design
on
the
larger.
G
Yeah,
okay,
I
agree
with
you
larry
that
this
is
this.
B
This
this
portion
of
the
the
project
and
it's
a
it's
a
big
wrap.
B
Officials
and
that
we
as
a
commission,
consider
them.
B
Really
planned
this,
this
garage
and
it's
initially.
A
So
we
were
limited
by
the
height,
so
this
would.
This
was
the
easiest
and.
G
G
Viewpoints
on
this,
so
I
appreciate
it
and
nick
we
need
to.
We
need
to.
G
A
A
E
Project
for
that
additional
site,
but.
E
It
is
what
it
is
and,
with
that
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion,
we
accept.
G
Kappas
yes
sandwich.
Yes,.
E
Walter,
yes,
all
right
motion
passes.
A
See
you
with
them
all
just
yeah
resolution
20-42
approval.
C
So,
as
you
may
know,
ivy
tech
having
had
ownership
of
the
of.
C
The
waldron
for
many
years
has
decided
to.
C
Building
in
very
short
order,
one
is
a
physical,
due
diligence
which
is.
C
So
we
are
gathering
together
contractors
to
be
able
to
do
the.
F
So,
specifically,
the
mechanical
systems
and
the
roofing
in
particular
this
is
this
is
going
to
be.
This
is
a
major
asset
to
our
downtown.
F
And,
as
I'm
sure,
jeff
would
love
to
attest
to.
F
Programming
aspect
of
it
that
alex
just
talked
about
so
these
are
pretty
straightforward.
These
are
this
is
something
that
we
did,
for
instance,
for
the
bunger
and
robertson
building
over
on
college
as
well.
This
is
the
type
of
due
diligence.
F
Of
bloomington-
and
I
should
say
when
they
say,
convey
back
to
the
city
of
bloomington,
that
is
in
exchange
for
a
one
dollar.
A
We
started
this
relationship
with
them.
I
think.
A
You
remember
yeah,
that
building's
been
renovated,
got
an
elevator
in.
G
David,
then,
when
I
was
looking
through
this.
G
Looking
at
the
like,
the
limestone
facade
too
for.
C
Done
a
nice
job
with
the
building
while
they've
had
it,
they
also
have
been
very
aware
of
of
problems,
many
of
which
they've
been
able
to
fix
some.
C
Which
they
intended
to
get
to
and
haven't.
They
did
alert
us
that,
particularly
in
the
back
side
of
the
building.
C
Of
that
we'll
make
sure
that
that
gets
done
on
the
on
the
front
facades.
Actually
they
were,
they
were
due
for
a
buea.
C
Be
able
to
be
offset
that
way,
but
but
the
back
side
would.
C
B
That
alex
outlined,
what's
the
anticipated
timeline
for
that
larger.
C
Won't
be
a
cost
to
to
the
rdc,
because
that's
to.
C
Be
done
in-house,
but
we've
already
kicked
that
off
with
specific
requests
to
ivy
tech
for
documentation
and
so.
C
So
that's
already
underway.
You
know
we
are.
C
We
recognize
two
things:
one,
that
the
creative
season,
which
is
really.
C
Creative
seasons
will
be
whether
that's
theater
companies
that
use
the.
C
So
so
we're
trying
to
do
this
as
quickly
as
possible.
C
We
are
also
aware,
and-
and
you
know
that
that
that
many
of
the.
C
It
the
theater
companies,
etc.
You
know,
given
the
circumstances
of.
C
The
pandemic
have,
I
think,
in
almost
all
cases,.
C
As
thoroughly
as
possible
and
then
be
able
to
communicate
out
to.
C
The
public,
what
it
is
in
the
you
know
what
the
short-term.
C
Operating
availability
will
be,
and
you
know
short
term
is
12
to
18
to.
C
C
Sit
within
economic,
sustainable
development,
we.
C
Takes
that's
actually
what
happened
back
when
it
was
initially
put
into.
C
A
A
Okay
motion
carries
everyone's
in
favor,
so
motion
carries.
A
And
now
we
do,
we
have
any
other
business
or.
A
General
discussion,
just
just
one
thing,
commissioner,
stan.
F
F
Follow-Up
questions
on
that
or
a
follow-up
discussion
that
you
all
wanted
to
have.
But
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
those
were
part
of
the
the
previous
meeting
and
previous
meeting
approved.
F
D
I
want
to
send
out
well
wishes
to
doris
sims,
who
is
having
knee.
D
Only
getting
one
I'm
I'm
gonna
have
three
at
this
year
so
but.
A
Let's
meeting
isn't
jared:
okay
thanks.
Everyone.