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From YouTube: Bloomington Redevelopment Commission, August 7, 2023
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A
Welcome
to
the
Redevelopment
commission
meeting
of
August
the
7th
2023.
Could
we
start
with
commissioner
roll
call
Randy.
A
Next
on
the
agenda
is
the
minutes
for
July
the
17th
2023.
Are
there
any
corrections
from
Commissioners
any
comments
and,
if
not,
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve.
A
All
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
passed
unanimously
next
item
examination
of
the
claims
register
for
August
the
4th
2023
for
the
sum
of
42
695.76
any
comments
from
the
Commissioners.
If
not,
could
someone
make
a
motion
to
approve?
Please.
B
A
A
I
have
a
first
and
second,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
past
unanimously.
Next,
we
have
the
examination
of
payroll
registers
for
July
28
2023
for
thirty
nine
thousand
six
hundred
and
twenty
five
dollars
and
sixty
three
cents
any
comments
from
the
Commissioners.
If
not,
could
someone
please
make
a
motion
to
approve.
A
A
First
and
second,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
passes
unanimously
reports
from
officers
and
committees,
directors
report
first.
D
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
vice
president.
So
just
a
number
of
things,
I've
missed
the
last
meeting,
so
I
wanted
to
just
catch
up
a
little
bit
with
the
commission,
our
home
ARP
plan.
That
was
the
two
million
dollars
in
change
that
the
city
received
is
receiving
an
allocation
from
HUD
on
that
allocation
plan
was
approved
on
July
19th.
So
we'll
let
you
all
know
that
that
has
been
done.
Input
that's
going
to
be
an
important
investment
in
support
of
services
for
the
community.
D
So
the
next
steps
are
getting
a
meeting
together
with
a
few
stakeholders
now
to
plan
out
what
that's
going
to
look
like
and
what
we
think
right
now
is
that
will
be
us
standing
up
in
your
grant
program
to
get
that
money,
displaced,
obviously
adhering
the
Federal
Regulation
and
all
that,
but
we're
going
to
work
on
that
as
the
next
step.
So
that
was
approved,
which
is
good
news.
D
D
Commissioner
Cassie
had
asked
about
has
been
asking
about
the
Lots
on
Dodd
Street,
and
so
we
are
at
the
final
stages
getting
a
contract
signed
for
that
to
get
that
wood
removed.
So
there's
a
lot
of
wood
sitting
around
trees
that
have
been
cut,
and
so,
while
I
was
out,
I
think
Anna
Hanson.
Our
assistant
director
reported
on
this
or
brought
it
up
at
the
last
meeting,
but
we've
got
a
contract
ready
to
go
and
then
we'll
get
done.
D
D
Well,
but
there
are
still
some
remaining
weeds
issues
and
I
met
with
facilities
last
week
and
they
are
working
on
getting
the
weeds
kind
of
taken
care
of
again
they've
been
over
there
with
contractor,
and
they
talked
to
the
contractor
again
last
week
and
the
weeds
I
needed
to
get
over
there
and
see
how
it
looks,
but
they
were
gonna
try
to
get
to
take
care
of
this
weekend.
I
just
need
to
drive
over
they've
started,
yeah
they're,
good,
okay,
good
job
they've
been
able
to
get
over
there
today.
D
So
that's
great
good
to
hear
so.
I
wanted
to
keep
you
all
updated
on
that
we've
also
I
would
want
to
recognize.
We've
heard
from
a
neighbor,
a
property
owner
on
Wiley,
so
I
said,
if
you
got
that
email
as
well,
so
I
stayed
in
touch
with
him
and
keep
him
updated
on
what's
Happening,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
input
as
we
move
for
all
this
ahead
as
well.
I
do
need
one
I
have
to
have
one
ask
of
you
tonight.
D
We
are
coming
up
on
our
community
development
block
grant
cycle,
and
so
would
like
the
commission
to
choose
two
members
to
represent
the
RDC
on
the
physical
Improvement
subcommittee,
as
well
as
the
social
services
subcommittee.
I
want
to
say
that
the
calendar
is
changing
this
year,
a
little
bit
and
because
of
our
environmental
review
process,
that's
going
to
be
changing
per
Hud's
request.
We're
going
to
try
to
get
a
lot
of
stuff
done
as
early
in
December
as
we
can.
D
We
usually
purchase
this
stuff
into
the
new
year
and
we
want
to
get
that
done
because
we're
going
to
need
to
try
to
start
our
environmental
reviews
for
whatever
projects
get
approved,
writing
right
on
January
1st.
Basically,
so
we
can
send
you
a
timeline,
it's
not
going
to
change
dramatically.
It'll
just
be
pushed
up
a
little
bit,
so
we're
going
to
have
less
time
for
the
application
and
just
have
them
ready
sooner
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
if
I
could
ask
the
four
volunteer
two
volunteers,
last
year's
Commissioners
Myers
Center
Dutton
stepped
up.
D
B
D
Of
course,
you're
not
known
physical
improvements,
Commission
on
public
services,
okay,
great
and
I.
Think
the
only
other
thing
is,
you
all
know
we're
coming
up
on
budget
time,
so
here's
budget
presentation
will
be
along
with
the
other
departments.
The
last
week
of
August
I
believe
we're
on
Wednesday
night
questions.
H
B
D
Really
it'll
be,
in
this
case
the
social
services
providers
of
the
community,
that
provide
case
management
for
the
for
qualifying
populations
of
people
that
are
either
homeless
or
at
risk
of
being
in-house.
And
then
there
are
a
couple
of
projects
we're
looking
at
that
need
to
be
the
development
of
rental
Supportive
Housing.
That
can
benefit
from
that.
B
I
There
is
calling
new
book
from
the
city
legal
department
resolution
2357
was
postponed
as
the
last
RDC
meeting
and
it's
not
on
the
agenda
currently.
So
we
would
recommend
that
you
put
that
first
on
the
agenda
staff
recommendation
would
be
just
to
postpone
it
again
if
the
utilities-
okay,.
A
B
A
Just
use
your
guidance
for
the
wording.
Thanks
is
there
a
Treasures
report,
Jeff.
A
E
Hi
everyone
I
am
the
interim
director
for
economic
and
sustainable
development.
I
am
also
currently.
E
Fulfilling
those
two
roles
for
the
remaining
of
this
Administration
really
happy
to
be
here
really
looking
forward
through
having
the
support
of
all
the
cool
people
sitting.
E
E
H
H
Director
for
small
business
development
for
the
city
of
Bloomington,
so
it's
been
an
interesting
week.
I
had
a
meeting
with
IDC
last
week
and
they
have
changed
the
calendar
for
the
certified
tech.
Park
recertification.
This
certification
happens
every
four
years
and
I
don't
know
does.
Is
everyone
Familiar
of
what
the
certified
tech
Park
kind
of
does?
Okay.
H
The
certified
tech
Park
is
an
area
that
is
basically
between
11th
and
7th
Street
and
Morton
and
Fairview
streets,
it's
a
hub
for
the
traits
district
and
high
technology
businesses,
and
so
when
you're
designated
as
a
certified
tech
Park.
Basically,
the
taxes
that
go
in
there
get
sent
to
the
state,
and
then
we
get
money
back
in
the
simplest
terms.
H
Right
now
we're
a
level
one
which
means
that
we
get
like
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
we're
being
considered
for
level
two,
which
would
be
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
a
year,
because
we
are
up
for
this
level
two
status.
They
are
resetting
those
who
are
in
the
level
two
status
or
maybe
in
the
level
two
status,
so
they've
upped
the
application
date
to
September
29th.
H
It's
a
big
lift,
because
that
area
is
about
65
acres
and
upwards
of
a
hundred
businesses
within
it.
So
within
that,
we
have
to
find
out
how
many
employees,
everybody
has
what's
the
average
income.
What
are
the
benefits?
What
tax
breaks
do
they
get?
So
it's
a
lot
to
do
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time.
They
have
also
asked
for
a
third
party
impact
study,
so
we
will
have
to
find
a
firm
who
can
do
this
study
for
us
very
fast.
H
We
do
have
some
some
folks
in
mind
and
I
will
confer
with
the
staff
to
bring
you
something
for
the
next
meeting.
Hopefully
a
contract
and
all
that
will
be
settled,
but
just
to
let
you
know
this
is
what's
happening.
We
are
in
a
bit
of
a
Mad
Dash,
but
I'm
sure
that
we'll
be
able
to
accomplish
this
so
anyway.
H
It
will
be
a
contract
that
is
funded
by
the
RDC,
so
any
estimate
the
lowest
estimate
that
I've
seen
so
far
is
about
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
the
highest
so
far
is
around.
B
H
Well,
I
have
I
I've
I've
spoken
to
these,
these
specific
groups
and
they
can
do
I.
I
asked
them
for
a
date,
a
completion
date
between
September
18th
and
September
25th.
That
would
hopefully
be
enough
time
to
incorporate
all
of
that
information
into
the
application
that
will
already
be
working
on
separately
and
the
first
I
have
contacted
have
all
said
that
they
can
do
it.
F
H
I
I
mean
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
if
we
could
decide
on
something
sooner
for
the
staff's
sake
and
for
whoever
we
do
decide
to
go
with
the
more
time
the
better
like
I
said.
I
was
just
given
this
information
last
Thursday
and
we
have
been
I,
have
been
working
really
hard
to
to
get
this
together.
So.
H
You
know
what
this
is
my
first
time
doing
this,
so
I
am
not
entirely
sure.
I
think
that
it's
I
think
it's
based
on
the
spend,
because
initially
it's
after
five
million
dollars
After
we
receive
five
million
dollars.
We
get
an
additional
like
100
000
per
year
and
I
think
it's
just
the
as
far
as
I
have
seen,
I
think
it's
because
of
the
success
of
our
certified
tech,
Park
that
they
that
we've
been
raised
to
a
level
two,
because
we
are
accomplishing
a
lot
of
things.
A
A
Thank
you,
Hopewell
an
update
from
Deb.
G
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
So
just
a
quick
update
on
some
activities
that
are
occurring
one
is
we
are
preparing
for
the
IU
Health
property
conveyance.
As
you
know,
the
Legacy
Hospital
is
down.
Grass
is
growing,
we're
feeling
very
confident
at
some
point.
We
will
be
talking
through
carbon
and
conveyance
and
as
we
prepare
for
that,
we'll
make
sure
that
the
due
diligence
before
that
property
is
turned
obviously
back
or
transferred
to
you
that
we
have
not
only
engineering
and
planning
and
cvu
during
their
physical
walkthroughs.
G
We
actually
went
over
those
conditions
with
cbci
the
other
day,
because
they
do
very
slightly
impact
development,
but
overall
felt
really
good
about
the
submission
that
was
provided
and
thanks
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
getting
that
done
in
time.
The
core
building
the
developer
for
the
core
building
did
submit
the
lights,
their
light
tech
submission
on
time,
which
is
the
low
income
housing
tax
credit.
G
They
just
submit
that
by
the
end
of
the
month
in
July,
and
they
did
that
so
fingers
crossed
we'll
know
by
the
end
of
the
year,
whether
it
received
as
tax
credits,
and
some
of
you
may
recall
that
the
primary
plot
was
an
important
step
in
that
in
that
in
that
process,
from
a
development
perspective.
Just
a
quick
update
to
let
you
know
that
u3
has
been
leading
us
through
the
evaluation
team
through
interviews
with
vendors
from
blocks
that
have
submitted
on
blocks,
8,
9
and
10..
So
additional
questions
are
going
back
and
forth.
G
We
had
in-person
interviews
as
well
as
that
evaluation
team.
If
you
may
recall
from
the
last
time
we
looked
at
you,
three
schedules
is
that
we're
looking
at
probably
around
mid-august
as
the
time
of
that
there
would
be
maybe
a
recommendation
on
that,
so
we're
getting
closer
and
closer
to
that,
as
it's
already
the
seventh
of
August,
so
just
be
looking
for
that
in
the
coming
weeks
to
talk
about
blocks
one
two
and
three
excuse
me:
eight,
nine
and
ten.
Additionally,
u3
is
working
on
the
RFI
four
blocks,
one
two
and.
I
G
And
so
don't
have
a
date
yet
for
that
release,
but
we
are
just
just
received
the
first
draft
of
that
today
and
so
just
know
that
their
their
work
continues
in
Earnest
as
they
again
as
a
reminder.
The
things
that
u3
is
working
on
are
the
sites.
Eight,
nine
and
ten.
Just
helping
with
that
bid.
Evaluation
bid
leveling
do
financial
analysis
on
that,
as
well
as
advising
us
and
that
evaluation
team
to
get
to
a
good
decision
there
and
then
preparation
for
the
RFI
for
phases.
One
two
and
three
as
I
typically
do.
G
I
can
we
can
put
this
in
the
meeting
notes,
but
as
we
look
ahead
to
what's
happening,
we
had
previously
with
youth.
This
is
a
snapshot
of
you,
three
advisors
in
their
work
plan.
I
know
that
you
commissioned
them,
and
so
we
want
to
keep
you
up
to
date
on
the
activities
of
you
three
and
their
advising
team.
We
are
looking
for
evaluation
team
recommendation
that
week
of
the
8th
14th
and
that
determination.
Do
we
move
forward
or
not?
I
G
Okay,
additionally,
let
me
touch
on
security
and
demolition
on
security
and
demolition.
At
our
at
your
last
meeting
we
had
given
you
some
things
to
consider.
You
asked
us
to
come
back
and
do
some
more
due
diligence.
How
long
would
it
take
to
get
bids
right
now?
We're
thinking
that
the
earliest
we'd
be
able
to
bring
demolition
bids
to
the
RDC
would
be
in
the
month
of
October.
G
We've
validated
that
so
we
are
working
on
the
development
of
getting
actual
bid
released
here
so
that
we
can
get
hard
demolition
bids
and
then,
on
the
technology
side
we
are
looking
at
getting
soliciting
quotes
for
that,
because
that's
a
much
smaller
amount.
So
from
a
demolition
perspective
we
would
be
obviously
following
public
bid
laws.
That's
a
that's
a
big
number,
so
I'd
have
to
follow
public
bid
laws
there
from
the
technology
that
is
really
has
to
do
with
more
soliciting
the
quotes.
G
There
will
be
determinations
coming
for
any
others
if
I
think
about
the
security.
There's
really
four
parts-
and
we
explained
this
last
last
time
we
met,
but
there's
really
four
parts
to
it.
Right,
there's
no
in-person
security.
There
is
the
potential
demolition
there
is
adding
the
technology
and
then
there's
the
boarding
up
of
the
assets
as
they
get
turned
over
to.
G
You
it'll
be
important
that
as
we
bring
these
things
forward,
and
we
continue
to
give
you
more
and
more
detail,
we'll
be
laying
out
from
a
schedule
perspective
how
each
of
those
activities
needs
to
happen
so
that
they
align
so,
for
instance,
boarding
up
of
the
core
building
the
windows
protect
those
windows.
We
want
that
to
be
in
line
with
when
the
property
is
going
to
be
conveyed
right.
So
once
the
property
is
conveyed,
we
want
to
make
sure
that's
in
place.
G
We'd
also
want
to
make
sure
that,
from
a
security
contract,
personal
perspective
that
once
the
property
is
conveyed,
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
we're
continuing
that
present
security
that
we
have
in
the
other
Parcels
so
just
know
as
we
continue
forward.
Probably
our
next
meeting
will
bring
back
a
few
more
details
about
how
all
those
schedules
align
together,
but
I
did
want
to
reaffirm
for
you
that
we
are
looking
at
setting
out
some
bids
for
demolition.
G
Getting
some
technology
quotes
as
well
as
some
quotes
for
the
boarding
up
and
things
like
that,
all
following.
Obviously
the
Public
Public
requirements
as
a
as
it
relates
to
that
last
thing
that
we'll
mention
is
on
the
communication
side.
Obviously,
there's
been
some
exciting
things
on
the
communication
side,
with
what's
happening
with
the
groundbreaking
that
was
well
attended.
We
also
had
had
the
opportunity
to
actually
present
that
hopeful
story
to
an
upcoming
housing
event,
John's
I'm
speaking
at
a
Builders
Association
meeting
as
well.
So
there's
some
things
coming
up
that
we
can.
G
We
want
to
promote
hope
all
any
time
that
we
want.
We
actually
had
a
few
developers
over
the
last
couple
weeks
actually
reach
out
to
us
saying
when
is
the
RFI
coming
out
for
the
next
development,
so
that
is
really
exciting,
because
we're
passing
those
on
to
u3,
of
course,
but
it's
important
that
we
continue
to
hear
those
things
and
show
see
that
interest
going
on
that
gets
us
very
excited.
G
Also
on
the
communication
side,
I
think
the
Granderson
is
on
here
and
I
think
Mick's
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
how
we
think
about
the
website
and
the
communications
and
Nick
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you.
J
Hi
everyone,
Nick
Ronnies
and
president
of
cbci
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
quick
update
on
how
we
view
the
phasing
of
some
of
the
website,
information
that
you
all
have
been
discussing
for
some
time
and
how
we
look
at
it
as
kind
of
a
multi-step
process.
J
After
those
elements
are
updated,
we
think
there
might
be
phase
two
and
phase
three
down
the
road.
The
first
phase,
of
course,
is
the
most
important,
the
most
time
sensitive
and
one
that
we
think
cbci
can
handle
for
you.
If
you
agree
to
that,
we
have
some
funding
sources.
We
think
we
can
procure
from
the
mayor's
office
through
their
Consulting
lines,
to
take
this
first
phase
on
and
then
come
back
to
you
all
after
that
phase
and
work
with
you
on
future
basis.
J
So
the
future
phases
might
include
some
things
that
commissioner
Barrow
Lee
Danson
has
mentioned
to
us
as
your
representative,
and
that
would
be
how
do
we
attract
some
folks
that
might
want
to
live
and
hope
well
in
the
future
of
various
demographics,
younger
people
to
be
specific
so
that
they
can
give
us
some
input
on
how
the
site
might
develop
that
might
be
attractive
to
them
to
live
and
work
and
reside
in
Bloomington.
So
that's
in
a
further
down
the
road
path.
J
One
thing
we
do
want
to
assure
you
is
all
the
work
that's
been
done
by
previous
Consultants
will
not
be
replicated.
This
is
specifically
a
website
update
or
rather
inexpensive,
one.
We
hope
not
near
to
the
level
of
what
you
had
considered
previously,
but
something
to
give
the
website
and
its
URL
updated
in
a
timely
fashion.
So
and
then
we
would
add
layers
and
in
the
third
phase
that
might
make
it
a
little
bit
more
user
friendly
and
been
updated
in
a
way
that
that
it's
it's
more
easily
readable
and
usable
by
the
public.
J
But
at
the
moment
that's
where
we
stand
and
that's
part
of
the
communication
process.
We
wanted
to
share
with
you
and
a
role
that
the
CBC
I
said
thanks
that
we
can
take
on
if
you
agree
that
you
think
that's
an
appropriate
step
for
us
to
take
and
Sarah
would
turn
it
over
to
you.
You've
been
on
these
discussions
and
let
you
offer
your
feedback
on
that
as
well.
K
I'm
sure,
thank
you
so
much
Nick
yeah.
So
the
idea
is
basically
that
right
now,
there's
not
a
need
to
do
a
major
overhaul
of
the
website
and
therefore,
instead
there
will
be
an
initial
just
refresh
that
doesn't
cost
that
much
money
and
the
cpci
is
sort
of
acting
as
an
extension
of
the
administration
will
kind
of
take
that
on
since
it
doesn't
require
or
DC
money
instance
or
DC
doesn't
have
the
I
think
interests
or
need
to
be
designing
the
website.
F
B
Only
question
we
have
is
this
is
off
our
budget
line
in
regards
to
it
from
that
it
will
be
taken
out
of
the
mayor's
budget,
doing
consultation,
budget
line,
and
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
it.
It'll
be
taken
care
of
and
we'll
just
be
able
to
get
online
and
take
a
look.
What's
our
time,
that's
correct!
Okay!
What's
our
time
frame
we're
looking
for
on
this
map.
J
Well,
our
commissioner
opinion
is
an
expert
in
this
area.
She
has
agreed
to
take
this
on.
She
does
not
think
it's
going.
She
has
some
contacts
of
website
designers
in
mind
already
that
she's
working
with
at
the
University.
We
don't
think
this
is,
but
you
know
a
couple
of
weeks
to
get
a
contract
signed
and
then,
after
that,
I
don't
know
the
length
of
time
it
would
take
to
do
the
refresher,
but
we're.
F
A
I
have
a
question
for
Deb,
but
any
more
questions
for
Nick
Deb
refresh
me
the
sites,
eight,
nine
and
ten,
for
which
you
are
accepting
bids.
A
Those
and
I
don't
have
a
map
in
front
of
me,
but
they
don't.
They
do
or
do
not
overlap.
The
one
two,
three,
four
five,
six
seven
eight
proposed
buildings
that
we
wanted
to
model
we
may
want
to
demolish.
Do
they
overlap?
Are
they
different
on
on
the
First
Street?
They.
G
A
So
that
brings
me
to
ask
the
question
that,
as
we
have
developers
actually
making
bids
and
we're
discussing
the
concept
for
Securities
sake
of
demolishing
those
buildings,
there
seems
to
be
sort
of
like
a
Venn
diagram
overlap
of.
Are
we
going
to
demolish
them
and
they're
bidding
as
if
we
are
going
to
demolish
them
or
are
they
bidding
with
demolishing
in
it?
And
we
shouldn't
be
discussing
demolishing
so?
What's
the
yeah.
G
Great
question
great
question
so
Mr
through
the
interview
process
and
and
to
our
suspicion,
as
we
looked
at
the
proposals,
they
did
not
include
demolition
in
that,
so
I
do
not
think
we
have
confirmed,
there's
no
overlap
there.
You
may
also
recall
that
we've
highlighted
the
fact
that
at
least
one
proposal
identifies
keeping
714
South
Rogers
kind
of.
F
G
A
Thing
well
that
that's
that's!
We
I
think
we
need
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
the
developers
are
not
considering
demolishing
at
all,
and
so
therefore,
we
almost
have
to
demolish
them.
If
we
want
those
any
of
those
developers
to
consider
developing
development.
Is
that
right,
right?
Okay,
that's
good
to
keep
in
mind,
then
thanks
any
questions
more
for
Deb.
B
Do
you
like,
as
we
look
through
the
eight
nine
and
ten
you
do
the
evaluation
on
those
I
noticed
based
upon
the
demolition
we
were
discussing,
the
utilization
of
615
for
the
office
aspect
office
thing,
given
everything
that's
going
on?
Is
that
a
is
that
something
given
its
nature
of
I?
Don't
know
it's
historic,
it
may
be
it's
historic,
okay,
so,
based
on
the
historic
nature
of
it,
have
we
looked
at
how
that
impacts,
our
timeline
from
looking
at
things,
the.
D
Edge
I
didn't
really
speak
to
that
on
the
yes,
okay,
so
the
two
buildings
that
would
be
sort
of
accepted
from
Demolition
right
now,
if
we
moved
ahead,
would
be
714
South
Rogers,
which
is
the
convoices
center
as
well
as
615
West.
First,
that's
the
white
Bungalow
that
does
that
does
a
contributing
structure,
so
we'd
have
to
go
through
the
historic
preservation
commission
for
demolition,
because
that's
being
used
as
a
project
office.
We've
not
thus
far
put
that
into
any
discussion
about
any
bid.
That
would
go
out
at
any
time
soon.
D
D
Think
we
don't
have
to
we'd
have
to
look
at
timelines
once
a
development
plan
is,
is
defined
for
that
area.
Specific
area
we'd
have
to
see
what
the
timeline
of
that
is,
the
timeline
of
the
use
of
the
need
for
the
project
office
and
then
the
timeline
it
takes
to
go
through
the
demolition
delay
through
the
HPC.
B
And
anything
we
can
do
to
not
demolish
things.
The
next
adaptive
reuse
is
always
a
better
thing,
gotcha.
So,
okay,
oh
one
question:
if
we're
still
on
Hopewell
in
regards
to
the,
how
are
we
moving
forward
on
our
evaluation
on
the
garage.
G
Great
question
so
the
evaluationship
I
think
I
reported
that
they
did
have
a
kickoff
meeting.
They
are
doing
some
internal
review
of
all
the
documents
that
we
have.
We
are
also
getting
ready
to
set
up
a
meeting
with
transportation
engineering
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
how
the
connectivity
and
there's,
obviously
the
garage
access,
comes
through
regards
to
the
primary
plot,
so
we're
getting
that
meeting
set
up
soon
and
then
we
they
have
requested
access
to
the
garage
in
that
mid
to
late
August
time
frame.
So
we're
in
coordination
with
that.
G
G
K
Sure
so
Deb
I
was
a
little
surprised
to
hear
that
all
of
the
bids
for
eight
nine
and
ten
came
back
without
pricing
in
the
cost
of
demolition,
because
I
thought
that
previously,
when
we
discussed
this
issue,
one
of
the
issues
was:
oh,
we
put
these
these
bids
out
and
they
would
include
the
individual.
The
companies
doing.
G
G
So,
let's
be
clear,
they
did
not
submit
a
bid.
We
submit,
we
issued
a
request
for
information
okay,
so
it's
not
a
bid
request
for
information
and
in
that
request
for
information
we
identify
part
of
their
scope
of
work
was
to
include
demolition
of
the
buildings
that
were
necessary
when
proposals
are
submitted.
Sometimes
they
include
everything
and
sometimes
they
don't,
and
so
through
the
evaluation
process.
That's
part
of
the
evaluation
process
determine
what
is
really
in.
G
K
Okay,
great
and
then
and
then
so
I.
G
Should
clarify
actually
I
do
think
you
know
we're
still
reviewing
these.
We
shouldn't
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
here,
but
we
I
think
we
actually
may
have
one
of
them
that
has
some
demolition
it,
but
wholesaler.
We
aren't
seeing
that
in
Incorporated
very.
G
Question
timing:
yes,
yeah
timing
like
how
is
this
going
to
happen
so
each
one
of
them
has
a
different
timeline,
but
I
would
say
in
general.
It
is
not
something
that
they're
going
to
immediately
go
out
and
there
is
a
public
offering
process
for
the
land
they
have
to
get
their
designs
complete,
and
so,
even
if
everything
moved
forward
perfectly,
the
reality
is
that
they
wouldn't
be
constructing
anything
new
until
sometime
in
20
24.
That
would
be
the
earliest.
K
A
G
If,
if
bids
are
received
in
October-
and
you
feel
good
about
the
bids,
then
you
could
move
forward,
almost
immediately
depends
on
how
quickly
they
can
get
their
demolition
or
meds
in
place.
The
utilities
have
already
been
shut
off.
So
you
know
I
would
say
that's
just
a
it's
a
matter
of
months,
not
no
not
a
year
or.
K
So
and
then
my
final
question
is
that,
then,
when
we're
talking
about
the
consideration
of
the
land,
that's
going
to
be
conveyed
from
the
hospital
to
us
beyond
the
parking
garage
as
well
as
the
core
building,
what
other
buildings
are
there?
That
would
be
conveyed
nothing
right.
So,
when
we're
thinking,
if
we're
thinking.
K
But
there's
no
other,
so
basically
what
we're
so
beyond
those
two
that
need
to
stay
yeah,
okay,
I,
don't
need
to
clarify.
F
B
D
Would
anticipate
that
when
we
review
service
contracts
for
the
new
year
or
do
not
exceed
amounts,
if
we
would
just
use
the
same
contractor
and
put
in
a
new,
do
not
exceed
amount
to
incorporate
the
additional
property?
That's
what
I
would
anticipate
okay
to
all
of
you.
But
that's
that's
just
a
chronology,
because
we
once
we
determine
if
the
RDC
is
going
to
demolish
and
pay
for
the
buildings
on
blocks,
eight,
nine
and
ten.
What
the
new
security
plan
is
and
what
the
coverage
is.
D
The
most
pressing
thing
is
to
figure
out
what
the
security
atmosphere
is
going
to
be
as
we
that
property
is
conveyed
to
us
so
that
we
have.
We
are
ready
to
go
when
the
property
is
conveyed,
and
then
the
next
step
I
think
would
be
to
get
through
the
season
and
then
look
at
that
contract
in
the
New.
B
D
After
we
convey
defense,
yes,
Deb
can
not
her
head,
but
the
fence
around
the
the
former
house,
the
Legacy
Hospital
site
will
stay.
That's
great,
that's
kind
of
a
perpetuity
right
there
until
the.
F
A
Last
questions:
thank
you.
Deb
very
much
appreciate
it.
Okay.
So
before
we
go
to
the
two
resolutions
on
our
agenda,
we
need
to
do
at
what
resolution
number
would
it
have
John
or
Christine.
A
Correct
23
57.
so
could
I
request
a.
K
Permission
to
postpone
consideration
of
resolution
23-57
until
next
meeting
I'll.
B
A
Opposed
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
And
thank
you,
sir.
Moving
on
to
our
first
president
or
second
resolution,
then,
who
would
like
to
speak
to
us
about
resolution
2360.
F
L
Nice
to
meet
you
all,
so
what
I'm
asking
today
is
the
property
underneath
the
new
parking
garage
on
Fourth
and
3rd
Street.
There's
a
we
call
it
the
Fourth
Street
storefront.
L
There
is
availability
the
month
of
September,
so
I'm
asking
you
all.
If
you
would
be
okay
with
having
another
art
exhibition
up
for
the
entire
month,
it
would
be
part
of
the
blackie
Brown
Art
Festival,
that
happens,
I,
think
it's
gonna
be
the
fourth
or
fifth
year,
we're
doing
things
a
little
differently.
We
would
love
to
have
this
Gallery
exhibition
to
have
more
Fine
Arts
Incorporated
in
the
festival.
There's
also
an
art
Market
on
Saturday,
so
I
had
talked
to
Chris
Cochran
yeah.
L
You
I
mean
he
said
that
the
the
tenant
wouldn't
move
in
in
September,
so
it
would
be
available
while
they're
getting
buns
together
or
something
so
it
is
available
if
you
all
approve
it
but
yeah.
We
just
have
a
fine
art
gallery,
show
up
for
the
entire
month
of
September,
and
then
we
would
have
a
reception
for
the
festival
on
September,
8th,
so
I
don't
know.
If
there's
any
other
questions
about
that,
but
we're
really
excited
it
should
be
a
really
cool.
L
It
will
be
much
like
the
other.
One
drop
show
that
we
had
earlier
this
year,
it'll
be
very
similar
to
that
which
got
a
lot
of
good
press
and
really
kind
of
United
the
community
behind
some
of
these
artists-
and
this
will
be
more
local
artists,
because
it's
entirely
local
artists
in
Bloomington,
which
is
really
important
to
represent.
You
know
black
and
brown
artists
in
our.
C
L
K
B
A
standpoint
to
make
sure
we're
not
going
to
impede
our
future
tenant,
that's
supposed
to
be
coming
in
so
with
yeah.
F
I
L
B
B
K
Fantastic,
but
my
one
comment
would
be
that
I
think
that
these
sorts
of
events
are
a
really
great
opportunity
for
there
and
work
at
IU
and
different
departments
and
other
centers
and
so
forth
are
always
looking
for
places
to
hold
their.
K
These
would
be
a
really
fantastic
way,
also
to
kind
of
enliven
the
offerings
for
the
community
in
that
way,.
A
Any
comments
from
the
public
hearing
done.
Would
you
care
to
make
your
motion.
A
D
So
this
commission
knows
we
engaged
core
planning
strategies
which
now
has
become
JS
held
and
Dev
codes,
primarily
as
our
project
manager
for
the
hookwell
project
is
you've.
Just
heard
an
update
on
how
this
resolution
would
extend
the
service
agreement
in
the
contract,
with
JS
held
until
June
30th
of
next
year,
2024
with
an
additional
amount
not
to
exceed
the
additional
260
dollars,
which
would
make
that
grand
total
not
to
exceed
amount
in
the
project,
review,
form
of
627
thousand
dollars
and
342
dollars.
D
Sorry,
this
will
be
paid
off,
Consolidated
Tiff,
and
so
that's
the
consideration
tonight
that
project
review
form
was
last
updated
on
July
3rd
for
security.
This
would
go
under
the
first.
The
Consulting
section
of
the
project
review
form.
F
B
D
B
D
K
I
have
a
question
so
as
this
is
as
this
contract
goes
through,
July
2024.
What.
F
K
Expectation
for
what
will
happen
after
that,
in
terms
of
at
that
point,
especially
with
you
free
on
board,
as
well
sort
of
how
are
we
seeing
kind
of
the
continued
kind
of
hourly
billing
of
JS
held
and
Deb
versus
the
verses
you
three
do
we
expect
that
you
know
that
this
is
kind
of
front
loaded
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
hours
that
are
going
to
be
billed
or
do
we
anticipate
kind
of
having
a
similar
need
for
consulting
services
in.
D
F
D
Still
working
on
the
development
of
box,
eight,
nine
and
ten
at
that
point,
you
know
we'll
see
where
we
are
based
on
the
review
of
those
the
RFI
for
Lots
or
blocks
one
two
and
three
will
be
out
whether
we'll
have
proposals
back
yet
we
don't
know
in
the
midst
of
that.
We'll
also
have
infrastructure
being
built
on
its
way,
and
then
infrastructure
needs
that
we
have
so
the
approvals
and
all
the
moving
parts
that
depends
has
managed
over
the
last
couple
years
are
firm,
has
managed
I,
don't
anticipate
less
of
those
right.
F
D
D
Might
provide
is
with
the
core
building
project
was
in
development
and
I,
think
Deb's
role
and
now
that
year
three
is
on
they're,
very
different.
We're
Deb
sort
of
made
sure
that
all
the
Departments,
all
the
staff
work
that
was
being
done
was
managed
and
all
the
moving
parts
were
connected
right
to
get
the
plant
approval
and
the
ready
Grant
submitted
and
the
financial
commitments
from
our
department
to
make
all
the
things
come
together.
D
K
That's
very
helpful.
Thank
you
I
guess.
My
other
question
is
you
know,
so
is
this
correct,
then,
that
the
kind
of
yearly
amount
that
we're
paying
to
the
2js
held
is
like
for
this
coming
year,
is
260
thousand
dollars,
because
that's
how
much
the
line
argument
is
is
increasing
by
I.
G
So
the
way
our
contract
is
structured
is
we
only
bill
you
for
the
hours
that
are
used
and
case
in
point
during
our
last
Amendment,
our
last
Amendment.
We
thought
the
hours
would
only
get
us
through
April
of
23
and
they
were
able
to
get
us
all
the
way
through
July
of
23..
So
so
it
is
an
hourly
contract.
We
only
bill
you
for
the
hours.
G
So
if
the
work
decreases,
then
we
don't
feel
as
much,
and
so
that's
that
gives
you
the
flexibility
and
the
Really
the
control
of
what
things
that
we
work
on.
K
A
A
A
K
F
M
So
I'll
just
know
so
in
the,
whereas
Clauses
it's
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
buy,
but
really
where
the
operative
order
of
the
resolution.
It
specifies
that
this
is
a
not
to
exceed
amount.
So
it's
an
amount
not
to
exceed
a
grand
total
of
this,
which
includes
the
ad.
So
it's
already
provided
for
in
the
terrific.
C
Wondering
I
appreciate
that
the
amendment
has
the
information
about
early
rates.
Is
there
like
a
Target
likely
billing
rate
that
kind
of
helps
get
to
that
260
by
the
end
of
June,
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
like
how
many
billable
hours
I
realize
again
there's
different
Staffing
with
different
rates,
but
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
like
how
the
meat
is
ground
to
get
to
that
number.
What.
C
Like
how
many
billable
hours
are
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
the
because
we
don't
usually
see
the
individual.
You
know.
Invoices
except
for
I,
mean
enough,
but
nonetheless
just
curious,
like
how
many
billable
hours
are.
We
is
likely
part
of
that
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
how
that
figure
is,
is
constructed.
G
Yeah
I
would
say
it's
somewhere
between
24
to
30
hours
a
week,
though
it's
you
know,
and
it
depends
on
kind
of
who's
doing
it.
But
that's
you
know,
so
you
add
those
up
for
the
month
right,
but
it
usually
averages
about
24
to
30
hours
a
week.
F
G
K
And
I've
realized
that
this
might
be
a
really
challenging
question
to
answer,
but
I'm
curious.
If
you
you
know,
maybe
you
don't
feel
comfortable
kind
of
you,
because
you
don't
have
the
data
in
front
of
you
to
feel
confident
in
your
answer.
But
I'm
curious
kind
of
you
know:
I
know
that
every
time
that
I
speak
to
someone
involved
in
these
projects
and
in
in
city
government
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
how
having
Jazz
health
and
Deb
in
particular
has
been
really
important
for
moving
this
project
forward.
K
K
D
I'm
not
sure
I
can
answer
all
that
question.
As
far
as
staff
costs
go
I
really
either
I'm
just
gonna
not
answer
that.
D
Evasion
but
30
miles
was
to
chime
in
not
from
the
financials
I,
just
really
hard
to
say
what
I
will
say
about
staff,
duties
and
staff
roles
since
I've
come
on
two
years.
This
is
one
of
the
first
things
I
was
introduced
to
when
I
came
out
of
the
city
and
I
think
the
the
changes
and
the
moving
Parts
I
and
knowing
how
Jazz
helps
value
has
been
I
think
highlighted
by
its
ability
to
pull
from
a
department.
D
Here's
what
we
need
for
this
piece
of
Hopewell
right
now
from
the
hand,
Department
here's
what
we
need
from
planning
for
this
percentage
of
this
project
and
that
changes
so
I
would
have
to
see
what
a
permanent
staff
model
would
look
like
there,
because
project
management
is,
you
know,
keeping
it
all
on
track
and
you
need
a
little
bit
from
hearing
a
little
bit
from
there
as
you
keep
moving
forward
and
okay
I
think
that
is,
that's
been
a
big
benefit
of
having
a
project
manager
whose
sole
job
it
is
to
keep
that
moving
forward.
D
While
all
of
us
have
our
staff
responsibilities,
I
think
that's
also
been
part
of
the
role
of
cbci,
where
the
future
role
is
to
figure
out
what,
in
addition
to
all
the
statutory
news,
the
staff
has
how
they
can
help
push
some
of
that
forward.
So
I
think
it'd
be
really
hard
to
compare
that
to
a
permanent
staff
model.
M
No
I
think
that's
all
right,
I
think
the
other
thing
is.
You
also
have
to
take
into
account
expertise
and
there's
kind
of
an
unparalleled
expertise
that
has
brought
to
the
table
as
a
trained
architect
and
as
somebody
who's
done
several
projects
that
are
similar.
So
it's
it's
a
multi.
It
honestly
is
probably
the
equivalent
of
a
small
Department
being
added
just
for
the
Hopewell
project,
because
you
have
somebody
at
a
senior
level
that
has
seen
these
projects
that
has
the
type
of
expertise
and
hiring
an
architect
is
usually
not
cheap.
M
So
the
fact
that
if
we
would
even
able
to
do
the
head
and
City
level
you
know
and
that
that
staff
level,
but
then
also
everything
that
John's
saying
like
that
support
for
staff
throughout
also
they
do
they've
done
egg
helped
us
with
negotiations.
They've
helped
us
with
strategy
in
regard
to
the
property,
and
so
there's
just
a
it's
such
a
it's.
M
I
A
Them
any
questions
from
the
public
hearing.
None
could
I
have
a
motion
with
it,
which.
G
So
this
does
not
this
contract
extension
basically
is
for
the
next
year
it
you
know
it
gives
opportunities
for
you
to
make
different
choices.
If
you
choose
to
in
the
future,
Nick
actually
asked
me
if
we
wanted
to
you
know
if
we
should
think
about
aligning
it
with
you.
Threes
I
chose
not
to
I,
chose
to
bring
it
to
you
in
a
year,
so
but
I
just
think.
That's
the
right
thing
to
do
for
the
kind
of
project
and
the
kind
of
evolution
that
will
go
on
with
this
project.
So.
A
Okay,
there's
no
more
questions,
and
could
someone
make
a
motion
to
to
approve
this
amendment
with
the
this
resolution
with
the
amendment.
A
G
A
Forward
to
continuing
thank
you
so
much
that
was
our
Second
Amendment
Amendment
yep
second
resolution.
Our
first
resolution
second
resolution,
so
that
goes
back
to
business.
Is
there
any
new
business?
No!
Is
there
any
business
or
general
discussion.
C
The
question
about
especially
for
714
South
Rogers
and
you
know
that's
a
special
kind
of
focus
for
the
security
I
see
the
security
card
that
primarily
there
all
the
time
and
the
question
that
Randy
had
brought
up,
which
I'm
just
echoing
now
is.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
create
a
temporary
use
there?
C
That
would
enliven
the
space
that
the
money
that's
being
invested
or
the
even
the
proposed
additional
money
that's
being
proposed
for
security
could
be
invested
in
an
active
use
of
the
space
again
temporary
that
you
know
Randy
it's
just
in
terms
of
the
Arts.
There
may
be
other
ideas,
but
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
back
up
on
the
table
and
again
other
folks.
Other
Commissioners
may
have
additional
comments
on
that.
But
that's
my
question
sure.
D
I
would
say
just
from
a
cost
standpoint:
there
are
no
utilities
to
the
building.
I've
been
getting.
Those
reconnected
would
be
quite
expensive,
there's
also
quite
a
bit
of
damage
in
the
building,
nothing
as
best
we
can
tell
right
now:
that's
structural,
it's
more
visible
in
glass
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
I
think
we'd
incur
quite
a
bit
of
cost,
trying
to
find
a
reuse
and
game
news
utilities.
Hooked
back
up.
Deb
has
tracked
utilities
better
than
me,
but
what
I'd
want
to
look
at
that
personally.
G
Power
and
yeah
water,
so
yeah,
the
other
thing
I
guess
I,
would
just
encourage
us
to.
You
know
we're
so
close
to
getting
to
where
how
we
might
may
or
may
not
move
forward
with
one
of
the
proposers
on
eight
nine
and
ten
I
would
ask
that
we
just
kind
of
sit
tight
until
we
get
past
that
and
then
I
think
that
becomes
a
more
critical
question
in
the
equation.
E
I
just
want
to
speak
to
that
as
Arts
person
as
well.
I
I
would
definitely
be
interested
in
exploring
that
as
an
option.
I
think
that's
just
one
question
I
have
overall
about
the
suggestion
to
demolish
versus
secure
I.
Do
think.
Can
we
lean
into
what's
going
on
there
and
what
is
already
present
also
to
Randy's
point
about
sustainability?
If
that's
an
option,
I'd
be
happy
to
discuss
it,
but
I
do
agree.
I
know,
there's
only
so
much.
B
You'll
have
some
information
regards
to
that
within
the
next
month
that
just
you
leave
utilities
off
and
you
take,
and
you
don't
take
care
of
your
roof.
Your
buildings
deteriorate
quickly
and
that
that
brutalist
building,
while
it
may
not
be
the
most
aesthetically
pleasing
to
a
lot
of
people,
you
know
it
has
a
structure
that
is
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
demolish
so
adapted
anyway.
Okay,
quick,
are
we
into
different
questions.
Okay,
question
regards
to
the
real
America
and
our
I:
don't
know
how
to
politically
put
that
particular
project
location.
B
D
It's
going
well
they're
moving
ahead,
they've
encountered
a
lot
of
sort
of
issues
on
the
ground
and
in
the
ground,
but
I
just
spoke
to
them
today
had
a
meeting
with
them,
so
we're
plugging
ahead.
They
I
think
I'll.
D
Ask
probably
update
we
had
was
I
was
telling
you
about
the
foundation
and
the
Geo
peering
issues
that
the
elevator
towers
are
up
and
they
expect
to
see
things
going
more
vertical
pretty
soon
as
they
get
all
the
foundational
the
stuff
done,
but
they
ran
into
quite
a
bit
of
limestone
down
there
and
so
I'm
surprised,
they're,
moving
okay.
D
The
core
building
is
Centerstone,
but
looking
at
sometime
mid
next
year,
I
think
for
a
possible
open
date
when
that
building
will
be
in
service.
Okay,
excellent.
B
And
then
the
only
other
question
I
have
have
the
building
that
we
sold
on
West
Kirkwood.
Have
they
made
any
progress
in
regards
to
doing
anything?
Because,
while
we,
while
we
relinquish
to
that
of
the
public
hands
and
back
into
a
private
ownership,
for
you,
know,
purposes
to
rehabilitate
it's
still,
just
there
and
I
understand,
processing
people
and
I'm
not
pushing
in
any
capacity
I'm.
Just
asking
that
question.
D
A
I'll
add
that
I
I
was
ordering
pictures
and
Banners
at
CVS
at
a
college
Mall
the
big
one
and
the
gentleman
behind
the
cash
register
said
what
are
these
Forum?
What
are
you
doing
and
I
said
that
I
would
had
to
run
to
it.
I'll
pick
them
up
later
tonight
after
my
meeting
downtown,
and
he
said
well
what
kind
of
meeting?
What
are
you
doing?
I
said
well
as
a
volunteer
Commissioner
of
Redevelopment,
and
he
said
oh
well,
I
hope
you'll
be
thinking
of
us
know.
A
He
looked
in
his
late
30s,
maybe
early
40s,
low-income
people
that
make
too
much
just
too
much
money
to
afford
any
of
the
apartments
in
town.
We
need
more
spaces,
so
please
think
of
us
so
pass
on
the
word
directly
from
one
human
being
to
us
pleading
for
a
livable
space
that
he
can
afford
without
help
he's.