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E
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you,
Vic
all
right.
So
the
next
item
are
the
approval
of
the
claims.
First,
one
is
standard
invoices
for
289,
688
dollars
and
five
cents.
Are
there
any
questions
on
the
claims
hearing?
None
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
passes
next
item.
Up?
Are
the
utility
bills
for
a
total
of
42
707.33?
D
F
A
All
those
in
favor,
say
I
I,
opposed
motion
passes
next
up
are
the
wire
transfers
for
a
total
of
three
hundred
and
ninety
nine
thousand
dollars.
Three
three
hundred:
ninety
nine
thousand,
seven
hundred
seventy
two
dollars
and
fifty
eight
cents,
any
questions
on
the
wire
transfers
hearing
none
is
there
a
motion
to
approve.
A
D
E
A
B
Good
evening,
I'm
happy
to
bring
tonight's
consent
agenda,
which
totals
five
thousand
dollars,
has
only
one
item
on
it
for
two
title
plus.
This
is
a
five
thousand
dollar
service
agreement
for
five
Parcels
related
to
the
final
phase
of
the
Clear
Creek
box
Culvert
or
the
Hidden
River,
as
we've
called
it
lately,
reconstruction
project
is
since
there's
only
one
item
is
there's
no
opposition.
This
will
be
a
approved,
as
recommended
by
staff
and
hearing
no
opposition.
This
item
is
approved
as
recommended.
Thank
you.
A
Good
questions,
okay,
hearing
none
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
it
salute
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye
opposed
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
I
should
say
the
resolution
passes.
Okay.
Next
up
is
the
request
for
the
approval
of
professional
engineering
consultant
services
with
Davey
Resource
Group
on
the
Miller
shower
dredging
project.
We
have
cat
this
after
or
this
afternoon,
so
welcome.
H
Hello
Catherine
Zager
assistant
director
Environmental
I'm,
presenting
the
crest
request
for
approval
for
Davey
engineering
to
do
all
the
Permitting
Services
that
are
related
to
dredging
Miller
showers.
Any
question
I
could
elaborate
about
the
permits.
It's
a
401
404,
permitting
permitting
with
the
landfill
any
storm
water
permitting
that
may
be
associated
with
it
and
then
other
project
management.
H
So
that's
based
on
how
much
sediment
is
accumulated,
and
earlier
some
of
you
might
remember,
we
approved
a
bathymetric
survey
and
the
bathymetric
survey
showed
that
there
are
areas
where
a
lot
of
the
sediment
is
accumulated.
It's
been,
we've,
never
dredged
it
in
the
I
think
20
years
of
its
existence,
so
it's
in
need.
H
So,
given
it
depends
on
how
long
the
permitting
takes
and
what
permits
will
be
required
so
we're
putting
in
the
applications
for
permits.
H
C
I
think
this
is
for
Matt
and
Chris.
The
due
date
for
the
signature
has
the
wrong
year
on
it.
I
J
I
D
H
A
K
K
Ago,
Mr
Wheeler
presented
a
list
of
several
contracts
for
chemicals
for
for
the
three
plants.
At
that
time
we
had
a
total
of
10
contracts
that
were
needed
and
I
believe
we
presented
seven
or
eight
of
them
that
evening.
This
is
just
another
one
of
those
contracts
where
we're
paying
18.5
cents
per
pound
for
chemicals
to
use
at
the
Dublin
Wastewater
Plant
similar
and
just
use
the
reverse
auction
process.
The
same
as
the
other
chemicals.
A
K
There's
a
process
where
we're
required
to
write
off
accounts
that
are
90
days
past
due
that
are
under
40.
So
that's
what
we're
representing
here!
This
is
an
accounting
exercise.
We
will
still
all
these
accounts
are
still
with
the
collection
agencies
and
we
will
still
try
to
get
the
money
and
if
we
do
then
we'll
end
up
re
reversing
this
right
off
when
we
get
the
payment-
and
these
are
the
time
frame
for
this
write-off
was
August
1st
of
2021
through
July
31st
of
last
year.
E
Yes,
Kirk,
okay,
so
with
the
second
paragraph
expensing,
the
uncollectible
Wastewater
accounts,
there's
nothing.
That's
like
we've
tried
to
return
payment
overpayment
to
a
customer.
That's
like
this
is
all.
I
Kirk
yeah,
that's
a
good
point.
I
talked
to
Matt
about
that
earlier
today,
I
noticed
some
names
on
there
of
of
companies
in
town
that
are
still
doing
business
and
I
thought.
Well.
Why
are
we
writing
these
off
if
they're
still
operating,
but
the
answer
is
we're
still
going
to
collect
them,
but
this
is
an
accounting
system
and
once
we
get
them
back,
yep
we'll
get.
A
A
F
J
Me
is
Michael,
Tannis
Michael's
been
with
me
since
2011.
he's.
Actually
the
author
of
the
report,
which
you've
all
been
given
a
copy
of,
but
I'm
gonna,
do
the
easy
part
and
he's
going
to
do
the
hard
part,
which
is
not
only
advancing
the
slides
but
answering
your
questions
after
this.
So
I'll
I'll
just
hit
the
highlights
and
let
him
deal
with
some
of
the
details.
J
I
I
just
wanted
to
start
out,
first
of
all
by
thanking
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
It's
been
quite
a
long
time
since
I've
presented
to
your
board.
In
fact,
I
think
the
last
time
was
approximately
25
years
ago
might
have
been
about
23
I'm,
not
sure
I
worked
on
The
Big
Dig,
the
first
of
the
covert
reconstruction
projects
and
I,
don't
think
anyone
who's
in
this
room
now
was
in
the
room,
then
other
than
Jane
worked
for
the
city,
then,
but
not
CBU.
J
I
know
the
board
has
all
changed,
but
anyway
it's
kind
of
a
testament
to
the
how
long
this
has
taken
that
we're
going
to
talk
to
you
tonight
about
the
last
section
of
the
Culvert
reconstruction
for
the
system
itself.
So
anyway
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
next
one.
Michael
I
want
to
talk
about
two
things
tonight:
two
things
that
are
very
much
related,
but
also
very,
very
different.
J
The
first
one
is
the
hydraulic
modeling
report,
which
you've
all
been
given
a
copy
of
that
talks
about
the
performance
of
the
Clear
Creek
System,
and
this
section
of
the
we
looked
at
was
from
Grimes
Lane
ups
and
Upstream
from
there.
So
we'll
go
we'll
go
into
that,
but
I'm
actually
going
to
talk
about
the
second
part
of
that
slide.
J
So
the
Reconstruction
section
we're
talking
about
currently
is
what's
highlighted
in
yellow
It's,
the
final
section,
the
the
big
dig
as
it's
locally
referred
to,
provided
the
section
that
went
under
Kirkwood
and
done
and
then
up
to
the
half
half
block
at
the
alley
north
of
Kirkwood,
and
we
left
a
stub
for
the
future
with
that
project,
a
stub
that
is
22
feet
wide
by
four
foot.
J
Point
four
point:
seven
five
feet
tall
and
now
we
want
to
finish
the
rest,
so
the
the
yellow
highlight
is
actually
a
slightly
revised
path
from
where
the
current
Culvert
is.
The
Culvert
does
occupy
the
alley,
but
it's
only
about
12
to
16
feet
wide.
The
proposed
Culvert
is
22
feet
wide,
so
it
will
take
the
entirety
of
the
alley,
but
then,
through
coordination
with
IU,
we've
agreed
that
we're
designing
an
actual
extension
to
the
Culvert
to
take
the
end
of
it
up
to
the
northwest
corner
of
Franklin
Hall.
J
That
will
provide
Franklin
Hall
itself
with
some
protection,
because
there's
a
lot
of
erosion
in
the
walls
that
are
right
next
to
that
building
and
then
also
it
allows
us
to
somewhat
straighten
the
angle
of
the
bends
of
the
creek
itself
to
reduce
the
erosion
in
the
forces
to
to
help
the
Culvert
perform
a
little
bit
better.
In
that
section,
the
we
might
as
well
go
to
the
next
slide
in
terms
of
the
basic
project
highlights.
J
We're
going
to
take
the
opportunity
when
there's
a
big
hole
in
the
ground
to
complete
a
water
main
connection
up
Indiana,
Avenue,
that
from
a
little
bit
north
of
Kirkwood
up
to
the
Sixth
Street
intersection
and
then
there's
an
electric
component
to
this
project.
It
turns
out
that
the
three
primary
service
feeds
that
feed
IU
come
to
the
6th
and
Indiana
intersection.
J
Basically,
it's
going
to
differ
on
which
side
of
Indiana
you're
on
the
west
side
of
Indiana,
which
is
where
most
of
the
work
is,
is
going
to
be
restored
to
look
essentially
the
same
as
it
currently
does
parking.
It's
an
IU
parking
lot.
It's
an
alley!
It's
in
the
back
entrances
to
some
businesses.
It's
going
to
be
restored
to
look
just
like
it
does
now.
J
The
IU
landscape,
architect,
Mia
Williams,
who
you
probably
know,
is
also
working
with
us
to
tell
us
what
they'd
like
to
see
in
terms
of
restoration
on
the
west
side
of
Franklin
Hall.
There's
going
to
be
some
space
created
with
this
project
when
we
extend
the
Culvert
up
to
the
northwest
corner
and
fill
in
that
space.
That
is
currently
an
open
Channel.
Next
to
the
building,
there'll
be
some
space.
That's
you
know
at
normal
ground
level,
from
the
sidewalk
that
might
potentially
be
able
to
be
repurposed.
J
So
I
want
to
take
that
opportunity
and
then
here's
a
couple
pictures
on
the
right
side
going
into
that.
Arch
is
actually
the
sanitary
Interceptor
as
it
currently
exists
heading
into
the
culvert
heading
west
and
then,
in
the
nearer
view,
going
across
there's
kind
of
a
dark
dark
line.
That's
actually
a
sanitary
sewer
pipe
coming
from
IU
that
sits
at
about
knee-high
and,
as
you
can
see,
partially
obstructs
the
flow.
You
can
see
the
damning
of
the
water
there
behind
it
and
then
the
other
picture
is
just
the
alley
that
this
project
is
in.
J
J
J
J
The
difference
in
space
between,
if
you
were
just
down
in
the
Culvert,
with
your
hand,
on
the
inside
face
of
the
wall
of
the
Culvert,
and
then
you
were
standing
above
with
your
hand
on
the
outside
face
of
the
van
Lee
building,
that's
separated
by
about
27
inches
and
that's
27
inches
includes
the
thickness
of
the
wall
of
the
Culvert
itself.
So
we're
talking
about
a
distance
of
about
a
foot
and
a
half
from
the
existing
Culvert
to
the
outside
face
of
the
building.
J
That
means
we
need
to
leave
that
wall
in
place
and
Shore
it
up
and
make
that
part
of
the
project
to
shore
the
existing
Culvert
wall.
We're
actually
planning
to
build
the
new
Culvert
wall
just
inside
of
the
existing
Culvert
wall
and
hold
the
old
Culver
oil
in
place
so
that
we
don't
risk
you
know
any
undermining
of
the
vonely
building
or
the
adjacent
properties.
So
it's
going
to
just
be
a
component
of
the
project.
That's
going
to
have
to
be
included
to
protect
those
properties.
J
There
is
a
lot
of
IU
property
impact
associated
with
this
project,
which
you'll
see
some
of
the
documentation
coming
through.
We
need
to
occupy
half
of
their
parking
lot
on
the
north
side
of
the
alley
during
the
primary
construction.
That's
the
only
side
from
which
you
can
service
this
project
to
have
a
large
crane
sitting,
dump
trucks,
etc,
etc.
You
can't
work
this
from
the
van
Lee
side
of
the
Culvert,
because
I
just
told
you
how
close
it
is.
So
we
need
to
occupy
half
the
parking
lot.
J
We
will
also
be
cutting
off
access
temporarily
to
the
parking
lot,
that
is
on
the
east
side
of
the
van
Lee
and
then,
of
course,
we
will
be
on
IU's
property
when
we're
working
on
the
west
side
of
Franklin
Hall,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
other
private
property
owners
involved,
the
Von
Lee,
building,
we're
working
with
their
property
manager
and
then
the
bike
garage
which
is
an
individually
owned
business,
privately
owned
as
well.
We
need
to
just
kind
of
intrude
upon
their
property
to
build
the
project,
but
we
don't
need
to
take
anything
permanently.
J
That's
the
only
access
to
their
elevator
system
for
the
folks
that
need
it
and
I
understand
they
do
have
employees
in
the
IU
Communications
office.
That
do
in
fact
need
the
wheelchair
access.
So
it's
unavoidable,
however,
just
because
of
the
separation
we
just
I
told
you
27
inches,
there's
no
way
to
work
with
that
amount
of
space
and
allow
people
to
use
the
door
scheduling.
J
J
So
anyway,
that's
the
Culvert
I,
don't
I
can
take
your
quick
questions
if
you'd
like
or
we
can
just
press
right
on,
because
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
modeling
a
little
bit.
J
Okay,
great
The,
Watershed
analysis
that
Michael
has
assembled
that
what
we
were
tasked
with
was
to
look
at
the
Clear
Creek
System
itself
and
better
and
develop
a
better
understanding
of
how
it
has
been
and
how
it
should
be
performing.
J
It
includes
virtually
all
of
downtown.
It
stretches
as
far
as
North
as
about
17th
Street
out
to
the
bypass
on
the
east.
It's
on
Grimes
Lane
on
the
south
side,
of
course,
as
you
can
see,
and
then
it
you
know
also
goes
to
the
Northwest
out
to
a
to
a
degree
on
that
map.
What
you're,
looking
at
the
black
lines
are
boundaries
of
sub-watersheds
areas
that,
where
the
water
drains
to
a
common
point,
the
blue
lines
are
actually
the
flow
directions.
L
J
J
now
this
is
a
this
model
is
a
combination
of
factors,
but
the
first
one
being
the
topography
and
looking
at
where
the
lowest
ground
is
and
keep
in
mind
that
an
enclosed
system
like
the
Clear
Creek
route,
was
once
the
natural
Creek
it
just
got
enclosed
over
decades
and
decades
to
to
be
what
it
is
today.
So,
but
that's
still
the
path
of
the
water
and
and
where
you
see
the
flooding
when
it
does
occur,
is
along
that
path.
J
So
this
was
the
pre-2022
project,
condition
that
was
modeled,
and
this
is
using
the
statistical
100
Year
storm.
That
is
a
statistical
term.
That
does
not
mean
that
that's
the
storm
is
only
going
to
come
back
once
every
hundred
years.
That's
that
was
the
initial
meaning
of
that
term,
but
that's
no
longer
the
case
with
weather,
changing
the
way
it
changes
and.
C
J
Been
changing,
but
this
was
the
condition
prior
to
your
2022
Culvert
reconstruction
project,
and
you
can
see
the
significant
inundation
of
dun
Meadow,
the
water
crossing,
Indiana,
Avenue,
flooding
behind
the
Von
Lee
and
then
creating
pockets
of
flooding
at
third,
at
course,
Kirkwood
then
4th
Street,
Third,
Street
down
into
the
area
and
and
you've
seen
some
of
this
and
you've
seen
some
of
this
recently
enough
that
you,
you
have
anecdotal
evidence
that
this
is
what's
been
happening
for
you
so
anyway.
J
This
was
just
an
analysis
of
where
things
are
were
at
before
the
project
that
you
recently
completed
in
the
covert
reconstruction
program
to
zoom
in
the
next
one,
and
just
to
show
you
where
the
Culvert
reconstruction
project
is
that's,
that's
the
alley
buying
the
Von
Lee
and
that
flooding
that
was
occurring
back
there.
J
That
still
does
occur
back
there,
but
and
you
can
see
Dunn
Meadow
in
the
upper
right.
So
this
is
really
just
a
zoom
in
and
placing
the
same
model
exhibit
on
an
aerial
rather
than
on
a
map.
J
J
That
a
lot
of
that
section
in
the
Middle
with
the
most
recent
project,
we
expect
the
Culvert
to
perform
much
better
through
the
Third
Street
area,
the
Fourth
Street
area.
You
still
see
the
buildup
of
surface
water
behind
the
Von
Lee
building,
and
you
still
see
the
inundation
of
dun
Meadow
as
the
post
2022
project.
This
is
essentially
where
you
are
right
now
in
terms
of
condition,
and
the
next
slide
shows
where
we
expect
to
be
after
the
next
project,
and
you
can
see
you
still
have
the
inundation
of
dunmetto.
J
However
you've,
given
you
no
longer
have
the
extent
of
over
topping
into
Indiana
Avenue
and
the
ponding
anticipated
behind
the
Von.
Lee
has
disappeared
as
well
so
I
say
this
as
an
anticipated
condition,
and
you
should
always
be
very
cautious
if
somebody
says
well.
If
we
do
this
we'll
we
will.
J
We
stop
flooding
Kirkwood
Avenue,
and
that
is
a
very
dangerous
thing
to
really
ever
say,
because
we
can't
fully
predict
weather
and
this
modeling
is
based
on
a
number
of
assumptions
that,
but
nonetheless
it
does
explain
a
great
deal
about
how
the
Culvert
has
been
performing
and
what
the
program
has
done
over
the
years
to
decrease
that
flooding,
not
only
in
terms
of
its
frequency,
but
it
also
with
severity
and
then
its
duration.
J
We
had
very
good
anecdotal
evidence
from
the
June
2021
storm
that
was
significant,
that
the
owner
of
the
bike
shop
came
out
and
literally
with
a
shovel
cleared
off
the
inlet
that
was
behind
him
and
once
he
did
that
and
cleared
the
debris,
the
leaves
the
mulch
whatever
was
blocking
the
inlet.
That
was
right
behind
him
that
the
water
was
gone
within
a
few
minutes.
J
So
you
might
as
well
go
to
the
next
one
I've
been
ignoring
the
southern
half
of
this
study,
because
the
enclosed
system
ends
at
First
Street
and
it
opens
up.
But
this
is
the
southern
half,
and
this
is
what's
happening
currently
based
on
the
100
Year
storm.
J
Now
the
there's
five
structures
within
this
reach
of
the
creek
there's
three
Bridges
at
at.
J
Dogs,
Allen
and
Grimes
itself,
but
then
there's
also
two
privately
owned
structures
over
the
creek
in
between
there
there's
the
Lauren
Wood
Builders
facility
and
then
farther
south
is
auto.
Heaven
has
their
own
little
private
bridge
between
their
Lots,
where
they
have
the
scrap
cars
and
what
you
see
about
this
section
is
somewhat
interesting.
I
know
it
looks
a
little
irregular,
but
this
is
actually
a
very
uniform
flooding
condition
for
the
link
for
this
length
of
a
creek,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
the
Culvert
walls
not.
D
J
J
So
what
you
have
is
a
section
of
the
creek
which
actually
has
a
fairly
consistent
cross-section,
even
though
some
of
it's
in
bridges,
some
of
it
is
not
so
you
see
this
flooding,
that's
of
approximately
of
equal
width
coming
down
and
for
the
most
part,
is
contained
within
the
valley
that
naturally
forms
down
in
that
area,
not
very
much
a
Walnut
Street
gets
flooded,
but
it
does
a
north
of
Dodds
south
of
First
Street,
but
nothing
really
gets
over
to
Morton.
For
the
most
of
that
length,
the.
J
It's
in
the
five
structures
and
I
mostly
made
a
note
of
that.
You
actually
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
any
of
those
five
structures.
J
The
three
bridges
are
County
Bridges,
and
then
you
got
the
two
privately
owned
structures
that
those
folks
have
some
sort
of
prescriptive
easement
on
them,
for
the
drainage
going
under
them,
but
that
you
actually
don't
own
these
structures
they
do
and
for
one
example.
The
the
example
for
each
of
the
five
structures
is
within
the
report.
I
only
put
one
of
them
in
here
and
set
for
the
sake
of
time.
This
is
Dodds
Avenue
and
just
look
at
the
hydraulic.
J
You
know,
when
you
look
at
2.5
feet:
that's
not
an
insignificant
amount
on
a
water
and
that
water
is
moving
it's
moving
fast
and
it's
obviously
with
the
fatality
that
occurred
at
this
exact
location
back
in
2021
that
water
is
more
than
powerful
enough
to
take
a
take
a
car
right
off
the
road
with
it
so
anyway,
the
other
the
other
locations
are
also
in
the
report.
J
So
what
do
you
do
with
this
information?
We
do
offer
a
number
of
kind
of
General
recommendations.
The
challenge
here
is
that
in
the
southern
section,
the
analysis
is
really
just
intended
to
inform
you
about.
What's
going
on
and
kind
of,
explain
it,
it
does
not
offer
specific
recommendations
because
most
of
this
infrastructure,
most
of
this
property
is
not
owned
by
the
city.
J
So
it's
not
directly
in
your
jurisdiction,
but
you
do
have
a
an
interest
in
this
and
and
the
flooding
conditions
are
obviously
of
interest
to
the
city.
The
fact
is,
the
existing
system
of
open
channel
in
bridges
is
under
capacity
and
has
been
for
a
very
long
time.
The
ongoing
flooding
of
these
adjacent
properties
and
the
over
topping
the
structures
should
be
anticipated.
At
this
point,
without
changes
to
the
reach,
the
Upstream
enclosed
section
will
have
taken
25
years
for
you
to
finish
by
the
time
we
build
something
in
2024
I.
J
Think
that's
probably
the
most
important
message
I
have
to
offer.
I've
stood
before
this
board
a
really
long
time
ago,
when
we
talked
about
the
very
first
section,
and
here
you
are
being
presented
with
design
plans
for
the
final
section
of
the
enclosed
portion
of
this
Creek
you've
just
taken
25
years
of
ongoing
steady
investment
and
commitment
by
your
department
to
see
this
happen
and
the
result
is
flooding
that
occurs
much
less
often
much
less
severely
and
of
much
less
duration
than
it
did
before.
J
This
Downstream
section
is
going
to
probably
take
a
very
similar
commitment
and
you
know,
whereas
I
stood
before
this
group
very
early
in
my
career,
when
that
happened,
I'm
very
getting
very
close
to
the
end
of
my
career.
Now,
I'm
not
going
to
see
this
one
happen,
the
so
anyway,
I
mostly
were
just
trying
to
say
this
is
a
long-term
commitment,
but
it's
a
problem,
and
hopefully
this
report
helps
you
to
better
understand
what
what's
happening
out
there.
I
I
sections,
basically
utility
relocation
this
summer
and
then
Construction
next
year,
but
in
the
big
picture
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
Downstream
and
how
we're
going
to
do
that
this.
This
last
one
took
us
a
long
time
and
I
think
when
we
started
back
in
98
99.
When
we
put
this
together,
I,
don't
think,
did
utilities
have
responsibility
for
storm
water.
Then,
when
did
we
pick
that
up?
Was
it
then
98?
Okay,
probably
when
the
city
realized
they
needed
to
do
this.
D
I
It's
on
us
to
make
the
plan
for
in
the
next
section
of
this,
because
we
see
the
need
and
we've
added
Fatality
and
it
will
happen
again
and
I,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
insights,
good
analysis
as
I.
Look
through
all
of
the
pages
on
this
and
and
I
appreciate.
You
know
these
next
couple
of
years
are
going
to
be
I.
Think
I,
remember
an
assignment
I
had
was
to
help
communicate
to
the
university
population.
What
the
big
dig
was
going
to
be
like
in
2000
and
we've
got.
I
Well,
the
good
part
is,
is
that
Jane
and
her
team
have
already
talked
to
a
lot
of
the
merchants
and
held
a
meeting
downtown
about
it
and
because
I
think
it's
kind
of
I
think
they're
kind
of
they
see
it
as
continuation
of
the
project
that
we
just
finished.
B
It
will
be
at
the
Episcopal
Church,
okay
there
at
Grant
and
Kirkwood
members
of
the
board.
Would,
if
you'd
like
to
hear
what
the
Merchant's
concerns
are
and
hear
what
they
have
to
say.
You're
certainly
welcome
to
come.
You.
B
And
as
for
the
downstream
portion,
we
have
had
conversations
in
in-house
here
about
about
that,
and
that
area
is
very
complicated.
It
sort
of
feeds
down
into
switchyard
park.
B
It's
there's
a
lot
of
potential
for
rethinking
that
area
of
town,
which
would
be
a
big
conversation
between
the
city
and
the
county,
and
when
I
say
City
I
mean
Transit
is
down,
there
parks
is
down
there,
there
may
be
Economic
Development
opportunities
for
the
city
down
there,
there's
just
a
lot
of
things
that
could
happen
and
we're
just
kind
of
Dipping,
our
toe
in
the
water
of
talking
to
people
of
of
how
that
could
all
be
re-envisioned
and
it's
but,
as
Brock
said,
probably
way
past
my
time
here
by
the
time
that
gets
done.
E
J
E
J
E
Thank
you
and
I
guess.
A
lot
of
the
details
would
be
to
work
out
with
those
Kirkwood
Merchants
about
making
sure
that
we're
compensating
them
if
needed,
for
we're
doing
what
we
need
to
do
to
be
good
partners
with
them
and
I
hope
to
be
able
to
do
like
an
on-site
visit
when
this
gets
started.
To
see.
K
A
I
just
wanted
to
I
think
the
work
that's
being
done
is
fantastic
and
I
love,
seeing
all
of
the
diagrams
of
kind
of
the
before
and
after,
but
just
just
to
be
clear.
The
this
last
fix,
while
it's
it's
going
to
help
substantially
that
done.
Meadow
area,
Still,
Remains,
essentially
a
floodplain
area.
That's
it's!
It's
probably
going
to
happen
there
again,
but
the
idea
is
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
this
work
so
that
it
decreases
the
damage
that's
done
there
and
along
the
entire
system.
Fair.
L
I
Say
yeah,
you
know,
I
think
it's
more
important
Amanda!
You
have
a
really
good
point.
What
happens?
Is
it
what
the
current
Inlet
it
over
tops
Indiana
and
that's
when
it
gets
into
the
parking
lots
and
into
the
merchants?
So
this
is
gonna
have
a
bigger
Inlet
from
the
the
exposed
part
of
the
river.
So
you
have
a
bigger
Inlet
there
at
Indiana
on
the
east
side
of
sixth,
so
we
won't
have
the
over
topping
anymore,
where
it
just
can't
get
in
enough.
Is
that
am.
I
J
Of
a
overstatement,
but
it
will
greatly
diminish
it,
we're
going
to
be
regrading
the
area
basically
from
IU
service
drive,
that's
just
north
of
the
Culvert
that
goes
to
the
north
side
of
Franklin
Hall
and
there's
a
little
stage
area
set
up
back
there
off
the
sidewalks
IU
has
a
bridge
immediately
Upstream
of
this
within
300
feet
or
so,
and
it
is
actually
the
smallest
Bridge
very
close
by
it
over
gets
over
topped
before
the
Culvert
does,
even
and
unfortunately
due
to
the
full
of
the
land.
You
see
the
focus
point
of
water.
J
That's
is
actually
at
sixth
in
Indiana,
because
that
is
the
low
point
in
Indiana
Avenue.
It's
up
there,
it's
not
at
the
Culvert
itself,
so
that
is
where
it's
been
over.
Topping
is
at
6th
Street
we're
going
to
try
to
grab
as
much
of
that
water
as
we
can
with
this
project,
to
get
it
back
down
to
the
Culvert
opening
and
reduce
the
amount
that
gets
to
Sixth
Street.
We're
also
gonna
be
adding
a
number
of
inlets
right
at
that
intersection.
J
Just
so,
it
can
suck
a
lot
of
water
and
we're
going
to
Triple
the
inlets
right
behind
the
Von
Lee,
so
that,
if
anyone
gets
plugged
with
mulch
leaves
whatever
to
provide
that
measure
of
redundancy
that
you
should
have
because
again
we.
The
anecdotal
evidence
is
that
if
there's
an
inlet
and
it's
open
back
there
and
it's
functioning,
the
water
goes
down
in
a
hurry.
So
yeah
we're
gonna,
just
try
to
catch
everything
back
there
and
get
as
much
back
into
the
Culvert
as
quickly
as
possible.
L
L
Showing
before
this,
the
Culvert
that
is
built
having
threatened
the
maximum
like
three
and
a
half
feet
deep
of
water
across
Indiana
and
with
the
analysis
and
the
improvements
it's
showing
about
eight
inches
maximum.
So
it
still
allows
your
emergency
vehicles
through
during
this
five
year.
Storm
event.
I
The
underground
part
was
was
going
to
be
wider,
the
Culvert
was
going
to
the
underground
Culvert
along
the
aisle
is
going
to
be
wider
than
the
alley
right.
So
I
knew
you
guys
have
been
working
with
IU
facilities
on
this,
but
I'm
just
thinking
if
they
come
back
in
there
and
put
curb
and
tree
plot
in
at
some
point
that
you
know
we're
building
on
top
of
a
culvert
again.
It
was
a
reason
why
your
Mia.
J
She
couldn't
get
any
trees
in
the
tree
plot
anymore.
Well,
that's
because
it
will
literally
be
on
top
of
the
box,
but
the
Box
will
be
down
12,
maybe
18
inches
to
the
top.
When,
especially
when
you
fill
up
behind
curb-
and
you
know,
fill
that
with
planting
soil
and
whatnot,
so
there
will
be
the
ability
to
have
Shrubbery
in
some
of
the
smaller
scale
green,
but
not
trees.
I
Now
you
mentioned
City
Public
Works
didn't
want
the
alley.
Any
wider
I.
I
F
F
I
F
I
F
F
I
Thanks
Gene,
another
point:
I
think
one
of
the
issues
we
get
into
and
we're
going
to
have
to
use
part
of
the
IU
lot.
That's
used
both
during
the
day
and
in
the
evening
for
the
downtown
merchants.
I
The
good
part
is
is
that,
with
the
Demolition
of
the
poplars
building,
we
now
have
a
lot
of
capacity
that
IU
does
in
the
in
the
poplar's
parking
garage
and
that's
I
checked
last
week
and
of
course,
after
five
people
are
free
to
park
in
there
the
public
is,
and
during
the
day
it's
hourly
parking.
I
A
Well,
Brock
Mike.
Thank
you
very,
very
much
for
your
work
on
this.
We
greatly
greatly
appreciate
it
and
and
helps
her
hopefully
get
this
things
moving
again
and
and
resolved
here.
So.
A
A
All
right!
Is
there
any
other
old
business
that
needs
to
be
addressed
old
business
from
the
from
staff
old
business
from
the
board?
The
only
old
business
I
have
from
the
board
is
that
if
you
have
not
responded
to
Frank
regarding
the
board,
retreats
training
session
board
training,
which
is
we're
hoping
to
get
from
March
6th?
Please
see
him
before
the
end
of
the
meeting
so
that
we
can
get
it
on
the
calendar
in
the
email
like
what
time
frame
we
were
looking
at
and
I
was
waiting
for.
F
F
D
A
Email
you,
the
subcommittee
reports.
We
did
have
a
subcommittee
meeting,
oh
yeah,
I'm,
sorry.
A
I
should
have
looked
at
that
sooner,
all
right,
so
we'll
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
because,
with
Molly
being
a
new
board
member,
we
definitely
want
her
to
be
part
of
the
board
training.
So,
okay,
so
again,
once
once
Frank
respond
gets
that
out
to
us.
Let's
try
to
get
that
all
on
everybody's
calendars,
pretty
quickly
subcommittee
reports.
We
did
have
a
meeting
today
of
the
administrative
committee
and
a
subcommittee,
and
what
we
looked
at
was
the
structure
of
our
subcommittees
the
roles
and
responsibilities
of
them,
as
well
as
the
assignments
to
them.
A
A
A
That
of
course
means
that
we
also
may
have
additional
committee
meetings
as
things
come
up
as
staff
need
us
to
review
things,
and
there
may
be
committees
like
Finance,
for
example,
that
might
meet
a
little
bit
more
frequently
because
of
budgeting
and
other
items
that
need
to
be
reviewed.
So
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
get
everybody's
input
we
have.
These
are
not
set
in
stone,
yet
we're
going
to
ask
everyone
which
committees
they
would
like
to
serve
on
and
we've
also
identified
all
of
the
chairs
for
the
Committees.
A
We
seeing
what
the
one
responsibility
was
was
to
review
the
rules
and
regulations
for
water,
Wastewater
and
storm
water.
We
wondered
if
we
could
possibly
forward
or
fold
that
into
the
administrative
committee,
so
that
it
would
have
the
administrative
rules
and
regulations
and
I
believe
the
again
the
committee
has
is
recommending
that
we
do
that.
But
what
I
do
believe
we
need
to
have
a
vote
from
the
board
to
change
the
subcommittee.
E
A
G
L
A
Well,
I
think
I,
look
at
crap,
Chris,
I
kind
of
look
at
is.
These
are
just
some
of
the
general
that
they
could
change
at
any
given
time
we
might
have
some
new
thing
come
up
about
X,
Y
or
Z
that
you
need
board
input
on
that.
We
could
just
add
it
to
so.
I
feel,
like
the
responsibilities
have
to
be
a
little
bit
more
fluid
than
the
actual
committees
themselves.
A
A
Like
the
consent
degree
perfect
perfect,
thank
you.
Okay
did
any
other
subcommittee
I
think
we
were
the
first
group
right.
Okay,
are
there
any
staff
reports.
B
B
Yes,
I
actually
have
a
number
of
things
to
talk
about.
The
first
one
is,
on
behalf
of
the
staff
I'd
like
to
welcome
our
new
board
member,
we're
looking
forward
to
working
with
you,
and
we
do
like
to
take
board
members
on
tours
of
all
of
our
facilities
and
if
and
we
will
schedule
them
when
it
works
for
you
and
other
members
so
and
that
means
anybody
wants
to
come.
Obviously
we'll
we'll
go
ahead
and
schedule
that
so
we're
happy
to
have
you
aboard
sorry.
B
L
C
Brought
up
an
idea
to
purchase
several
Chromebooks
that
we
would
use
for
training
of
some
of
our
employees.
We
were
trying
to
come
up
with
other
opportunities
to
use
those
we
wanted
to
see
if
the
board
would
be
open
to
if
we
provided
Chromebooks
at
the
meetings.
If
we
could
do
away
with
all
of
the
paper
pamphlets
or
packets,
they
would
be
waiting
at
your
station
or
at
the
desk
here
fired
up
to
the
drive
which
we've
been
using
and
you
could
just
follow
along
that
way.
B
Okay,
next
item
I
have
regards
the
Winston
Thomas
process.
We've
got
a
couple
of
things.
B
The
other
item
is,
as
you
know,
we've
been
working
on
putting
together
materials
to
take
to
iurc,
to
see,
if
it's
possible,
for
us
to
do
the
bonding
for
a
project
there.
We
will
be
bringing
that
request
to
you
on
the
27th
of
March
and
with
an
eye
towards
having
it
before
the
Council
on
April
12th
and
then,
after
that
it
would
go
to
the
iurc.
So
any
questions
anyone
has
about
the
Winston,
Thomas
property
or
the
state
of
this
facility
or
any
of
the
space
needs
and
so
forth.
B
E
B
A
Nick,
just
a
quick
question,
so
this
in
the
the
engineering
for
this
cleanup
of
the
site
is
that
I
mean
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse.
Is
this
something
that
needs
to
get
done
anyway,
even
if
we
do
not
go
forward
with
a
new
yes
service
center?
Yes,.
B
We
want
to
get
the
site
cleaned
up
and
you
you've
all
seen
it
there's
there's
some
crumbling
buildings,
there's
the
the
trickling
filter
that
has
various
stuff
in
it
and
so
forth.
We
just
would
like
to
restore
the
site
regardless
of
what
comes
next,
whether
it
comes
this
in
the
current
span
of
yours
or
in
the
distant
future.
We
want
the
site
to
look
more
like
the
natural
site
than
it
does
today.
So,
but
there
wouldn't
be
any
stream
restoration
activities
or
any
of
those
kinds
of
things
there
either
great.
B
Okay,
the
third
thing
is
just
thinking
about
Jim,
Jim,
Sherman,
I,
hope
you're
still
on
Jim.
We
really
did
try
to
make
an
effort
to
get
the
boardroom
Tech
up
to
the
point
where
we
can
do
hybrid
meetings.
We
expect
the
the
continuing
delay
on
the
television
set
is
still
holding
us
up,
but
once
that's
here
we
should
be
able
to
get
this
board.
This
room
set
up
for
hybrid
meetings,
so
I
just
want
you
to
know
we're
still
working
on
it.
B
It
just
isn't
done
yet
and
I
hope,
you're
doing
well.
Jim
you,
the
next
one,
is
to
just
be
aware:
Frank
has
worked
with
Holly
and
the
parks
department
to
make
interpretive
Signs.
Regarding
the
the
recently
finished
Hidden
River
tunnel,
the
first
one
I
think
is
going
up
soon.
B
Yeah
at
I
call
it
Third.
Street
Park
I
can
never
remember
the
the
names,
but
it's
going
in
near
the
playground
there
at
the
park
near
the
near
the
the
boys
and
girls
club,
the
the
other
ones
will
be
Upstream,
I,
think
near
Dunn,
Meadow
and
downstream
near
the
the
outfall
or
where
it
comes
out
of
the
tunnel.
B
We
had
a
meeting
about
a
week
ago,
last
Friday
to
hear
the
preliminary
report
from
the
engineers
there's
a
lot
of
optimistic
stuff
in
there
about
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
in
terms
of
reducing
our
carbon
footprint
and
our
electrical
purchases
in
the
future,
and
also
a
lot
of
analysis
of
the
finances
of
such
a
project.
B
We
will
be
meeting
with
the
well
the
we
expect
to
get
the
final
report
sometime
in
early
mid-march
and
then
we
would
be
scheduling
a
public
event
to
present
the
the
final,
the
results
of
all
of
that
with
the
the
Monroe
County
Solid
Waste
Management
District
staff
and
the
contractors
to
tell
the
whole
story
of
what
we've
learned.
It's
all
been
a
very
interesting
conversation
and
I.
Think
there's
there's
a
lot
to
digest.