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A
B
I
remember
this
flow
chart
and
we
are
still
where
we
were
the
last
time
we
talked
about
this.
The
engineering
study
for
the
site,
restoration
and
Grading
is
going
to
be
done
soon,
we're
in
some
final
stages
of
that
we'll
be
ready
to
move
ahead
with
demolition
permitting
and
planning
to
do
that
project,
hopefully
still
later
this
year.
B
The
other
question
that
everyone's
been
thinking
about
is
the
financial
study
we
finally
got
the
appraisals
on
the
current
building
and
Jennifer
has
put
together
a
financial
analysis
of
what
the
bond
cost
would
be
for
the
project
of
the
scale
that
we
were
talking
about
previously
so
I'll
leave.
This
is
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
of
where
we
are
in
the
process
pretty
clearly
at
this
point.
B
C
D
C
D
C
So
we've
prepared
a
rate
and
finance
or
a
financing
report,
because
we're
not
really
contemplating
rates
at
this
point
in
time
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
be
able
to
show
you
how
you
would
be
able
to
finance
that
with
your
existing
rates.
So
our
PDF
of
the
report
is
up
there.
Let's
go
a
couple
pages
to
the
income
statement.
C
There
we
go
so
first,
we
do
it
just
re-summarize
your
financial
statements,
so
this
is
your
balance
sheet,
so
we
show
2022,
2021
and
2020
just
as
comparison,
so
you
can
see
over
time.
What's
happened
with
your
utility
if
you
would
go
a
few
more
pages,
so
this
is
the
balance
sheet.
The
next
page
is
the
liabilities
and
owners
equity,
and
then
we
show
your
current
amortization
schedule.
So
those
are
just
your
currently
outstanding
debt.
So
if
you
could
go
about
five
or
six
pages
down.
C
We're
just
going
to
zip
right
through
all
these
amortization
schedules.
Yeah
just
keep
going
sorry,
another
page,
another
page:
these
are
your
ESG
solar
leases.
Your
outstanding
leases,
all
right.
Here's
the
statement
of
income.
That's
that's
interesting
to
show
what's
happening
over
time
with
your
income
statement.
You,
yes,.
A
Could
you
tell
me
what
page
that
is
just
on
that
P
not
on
the
PDF,
but
just
to
the
corner
of
the
page,
just
scroll
up
just
a
hair
on
the
corner
of
the
it'll
stay
in
the
13.?
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
C
Very
good
page
13.
and
again
we
show
here
on
your
income
statements,
your
revenues
and
your
expenses
for
just
the
water
utility
for
2022,
21
and
20.
and,
as
you
know,
in
2022
you
had
the
first
phase,
your
rate
increase
that
was
implemented,
January
1st,
and
then
it
was
slightly
changed
in
August
when
the
utility
receipts
tax
decrease,
but
then
the
true
up,
The,
Debt,
Service
increase,
but
so
overall
your
rates
last
year
were
pretty
consistent.
There
wasn't
a
whole
lot
of
change.
C
Then
we're
gonna
go
another
page
or
so
go
two
more
pages
down.
Then
we
make
adjustments.
So
this
is
your
adjustment
to
the
financial
statements,
and
this
is
on
page
16..
C
So
what
the
only
adjustments
that
we
really
make
are
to
your
adjusting
adjustments
for
your
Revenue.
So
what
we
show
here
is
your
increase
for
your
phase
two
rates
that
will
go
into
effect
on
January,
1st
2024
and
that's
8.74
percent
increase
over
approximately
on
all
the
revenues
over
this
past
year.
C
C
We
explain
that
on
the
next
page,
so
let's
actually
go
down
two
more
pages
to
the
proposed
service
center
financing.
What
we're
here
to
discuss
page
18
here
the
proposed
service
financing.
The
estimated
cost
of
the
new
center
is
a
total
of
about
44.7
million
dollars.
We
have
reduced
down
the
bond
issuance
by
the
average
of
the
two
estimates-
appraisals
that
you
have.
C
You
had
a
2.8
and
a
4.1,
so
we
struck
right
in
the
middle
at
3
million
450,
and
so
we
propose
the
bond
issuance
would
be
about
41.41
million
two
hundred
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
that
would
be
financed
by
all
the
utilities,
so
storm
water,
sewer
and
water
Waters
portion
of
that
will
only
be
40
percent
of
that.
So
on
the
next
page
we
show
what
that
proposed.
Amortization
schedule
might
look
like,
and
this
is
the
amortization
schedule
for
the
entire
financing.
C
So
the
first
few
lines
should
the
principal
our
estimated
coupon,
the
total
debt
service
for
all
utilities,
and
then
we
allocate
40
percent
of
The
Debt
Service
to
the
water
utility
to
come
up
with.
Basically
1.2
million
dollars
per
year
is
what
we
estimate
the
water
portion
of
this
new
financing.
Center
financing
would
be
the
next
page.
We
just
pulled
together
all
your
debt,
just
showing
the
current
outstanding
debt
and
the
addition
of
this
new
debt,
so
that
and
the
next
page
is
showing
the
coverage-
and
that's
that's
what's
important.
C
In
a
financing
case
is
the
coverage,
so
we
come
down
and
we
have
operating
revenues
adjusted
for
the
second
phase
of
the
rate
increase
of
21.7
million
dollars
minus
your
current
operating
expenses.
So
you
have
revenues
available
for
Debt
Service
of
about
10
million
dollars.
Your
total
outstanding
annual
Debt
Service
that
you'll
be
paying
from
the
water
utility
7
million
seven
hundred
and
seventy
nine
thousand
dollars
so
that
you
have
coverage
of
130
percent.
C
We
propose
that
we're
well
we're
not
sure
how
this
financing
might
go
forward.
It
might
be
done
on
a
building,
Corp
site
and
all
the
account
all
The
Debt
Service
gets
allocated
to
the
utility
to
each
utility,
the
storm
water
of
the
sewer
and
the
water.
So
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
parity
debt
coverage
of
125,
but
usually
that's
the
minimum
that
we
are
aiming
for.
C
So
we
would
be
able
to
recommend
that
you
could
go
forward
with
a
financing
with
your
current
rates
and
charges
and
still
have
the
minimum
required
coverage
that
summarizes
in
in
quick.
The
report.
Sorry
to
give
it
to
you
all
in
a
report
function
at
format,
but
if
you
have
any
specific
questions,
I'm
open
for
questions
at
this
point.
E
E
B
What
happened
was
we
took
the
master
plan
that
had
the
estimates
in
it?
Then
our
engineering
department
has
updated
the
numbers
that
were
provided
in
the
master
plan
to
reflect
the
current
market
conditions
and
some
other
adjustments
to
the
to
the
plan
in
terms
of
square
feet.
And
then
that
was
how
that's
where
that
number
was
arrived
at,
and
it
includes
contingency
as
well.
It's
filtered
Phil.
You
can
speak
to
that.
G
Yeah
Philippine
engineering,
Paul,
Paul
Cripe
was
hired
that
engineering
company
to
do
a
master
plan
of
the
site
and
then,
like,
like
Vic,
said
the
the
numbers
were
older.
They
were
I,
think
2019
2020
numbers
and
then
things
really
escalate.
We
see
that
a
lot
on
our
our
other
projects
that
were
estimated
before
the
pandemic,
and
so
we
adjusted
those
costs
per
per
square
foot
for
the
the
use
of
the
building
and
then
that's
where
we
came
to
the
44
000..
That
includes
utilities
and
site
grading
and
all
the
aspects
asphalt
concrete.
B
B
Soon
we
will
come
back
with
a
more
detailed
presentation
about
where
the
numbers
you
know
of
the
plan
and
how
the
pieces
break
out
on
this,
because
we're
going
to
be
coming
back,
you
know,
hopefully
in
the
next
month
or
so,
to
begin
the
grading
project
at
the
site
and
to
tear
down
the
old
buildings
that
need
to
be
demolished.
So
that
would
be
the
first,
the
first
phase,
and
that
would
be
that's
a
purely
sewer
project.
That's
just
to
restore
the
site.
H
Many
could
you
tell
us
approximately
how
much
it
got
increased
over
the
three
to
four
years
since
the
original?
Do
you
remember
what
that
was
it.
B
B
I
I
Sad
that
that's
on
the
topic
of
costs
for
capital
projects,
we
at
the
University
have
had
a
lot
of
the
same
issues.
I
We've
had
projects,
one
in
a
large
one
that
we
sent
out
for
bids
a
couple
of
years
ago.
It
was
so
high.
We
just
stopped
and
waited
a
couple
of
years
and
price
came
down.
20
million.
So
that's
not
so
bad,
so
things
are
leveling
off
and
this
you
know
this
is
an
estimate.
We
might
see
more
favorable
when
we
put
it
out
for
bids
or
one
way
or
the
other
I
guess
depends
on
what
all
we
want
to
include.
I
B
Yeah-
and
we
saw
the
same
thing
with
a
lot
of
it-
also
is
in
wages
and
salaries,
because
there
was
huge
demand
for
the
construction
workers,
huge
demand
for
engineers.
As
you
know,
we've
lost
a
lot
of.
We
lost
a
lot
of
experienced
staff
there
in
21
and
22
and,
and
that
also
is
leveling
off
a
bit,
so
we're
not
seeing
as
much
of
that
kind
of
price
pressure,
but
those
prices
went
up
and
stayed
up.
They
didn't,
they
didn't
come
back
down,
but
they
they
held
pretty
steady
at
this
point.
B
C
You
mean
on
page
19
of
the
PDF,
so
go
up
a
couple
pages
to
there
we
go.
This
is
the
new
debt
amortization
schedule
that
we're
talking
about
so
the
41
.2
million
dollars
worth
of
principle
maturing
each
year
ends
up
being
about
2.9
Million
dollars
annually,
it's
amortization
and
then
the
water
utility
gets
allocated
40
of
that
at
so
their
portion
is
1.2
million
of
that
2.9.
I
F
C
C
And
that's
actually
this
page
right
here
is
the
total
amortization
schedule.
So
the
the
calm
there
in
the
middle
is
shows
the
total
principal
plus
interest
of
57
million.
That's
on
page
19.
H
F
H
You
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
impact
of
this
project
alone
on
rate
payers.
C
C
So
if
we
would
move
forward
with
only
this
project,
we
would
have
to
go
to
the
commission
and
say
we
would
like
to
take
a
portion
of
that
3.8
million
that
we
said
annually,
that
we
would
pay
for
projects
with
cash
on
hand
annually
and
we'll
need
to
shift
some
of
that
to
be
Debt
Service
of
1.2
million.
So
that's
the
the
only
effect
of
what
we're
showing
here
in
this
report
at
this
point
in
time,.
F
C
E
B
E
B
E
E
B
B
B
We've
already
accounted
so
in
round
terms
if
you,
if,
if
the
the
simplest
way
to
approximate
at
this
time,
what
this
might
do
to
the
rates
is
to
divide
the
additional
Debt
Service
by
our
Revenue.
Our
revenue
is
about
50
million
bucks,
so
take
that
number
divided
by
50
million,
and
that's
it
approximately
in
the
ballpark
of
what
a
rate
increase
would
be
to
pay
for
the
project.
F
B
J
A
E
B
J
J
Time
did
this
was
more
of
a
hey
everybody.
Here's
where
we
are
at
this
yeah
as
of
right
now.
This
does
look
feasible
and
then
now
at
a
later
date
we
can
dig
into
what
made
up
to
45
million
in
the
appraisals,
and
then
we
could
have
a
deeper
conversation
on
that
yeah.
A
D
B
B
Are
you
ready
for
me
I?
Think
one
thing
I
wanted
to
do
to
start
this
out
is
to
thank
all
the
assistant
directors
for
their
efforts
in
helping
get
this
together.
Oh
and
Holly,
and
Frank
too,
for
all
the
efforts
they
put
forward
to
get
us
this
far.
This
is
a
record
for
how
early
we've
been
able
to
bring
the
the
budget
to
the
board.
Usually
we're
straining
to
get
it
to
you
in
time
for
the
budget
hearings
at
the
end
of
August.
B
So
our
plan
tonight
was
to
present
the
the
budget
presentation
to
the
board,
it's
a
subcommittee
and
then
to
the
board
as
you
desire.
If
the
board
is
prepared
to
vote
on
this
proposal
tonight,
that'd
be
fine.
Otherwise
we
could
bring
it
back
again
in
two
weeks
on
the
14th,
so
the
presentation
is
very
similar
to
recent
years.
B
The
city
of
Bloomington
utilities
exists
to
provide
safe
and
sustainable
water,
Wastewater
and
storm
water
services
in
an
economical
manner,
promoting
Public,
Health
prosperity
and
quality
of
life
in
our
community.
We
always
talk
about
this.
At
the
beginning
of
our
presentation.
Our
goal
is
to
be
recognized
as
the
finest
util
Municipal
utility
system
in
the
state.
B
We
have,
at
the
present
time
a
total
staff
of
208
of
that's
full-time,
part-time,
regular
and
temporary
positions.
We
have
three
different
utilities,
as
you
know,
the
Water
Works,
the
sewer
works
and
the
storm
water
utility
with
six
interconnected
divisions,
Administration
Finance
engineering,
transmission,
distribution,
environmental
and
operations.
B
B
B
We've
also
deployed
a
lot
of
new
technology,
bringing
ourselves
up
to
sort
of
the
state
of
the
art
more
or
less
in
the
industry.
Our
Advanced
metering
infrastructure
has
really
changed
the
way
we
do
a
lot
of
things.
We've
done
upgrades
to
our
supervisory
control
and
data
acquisition
systems
in
the
plants.
That's
scada!
If
that
word
comes
up
again,
we've
instituted
an
integrated
laboratory
information
management
system.
B
We've
upgraded
our
GIS
to
arcgis,
which
makes
a
lot
of
things
possible,
including
the
City
Works
asset
management
system
that
we're
in
the
last
stages
of
deploying
as
we
speak.
Another
thing
that's
important
to
point
out
is
that
we
have
instituted
or
restored
a
regular
replacement
schedule
for
our
vehicles,
and
we
have
that's
more
than
a
hundred,
it's
more
than
150,
actually
vehicles
that
we
have
overall.
B
2023
we're
working
to
develop
a
strategic
planning
document
through
the
effective
utility
Management
program.
As
you
know,
we've
been
talking
about
that.
We
are
still
exploring
the
possibility
of
relocating
our
service
center
and
garage
to
the
Winston
Thomas
property,
and
we
have
just
completed,
as
you
know,
a
primary
preliminary
financial
plan
for
the
project
in
in
terms
of
how
we
would
Finance
it
also
in
2023
in
the
Water
Works
we
are
replacing
the
filter,
media
and
the
under
drains
that
the
water
plant
at
Monroe,
we
are
rehabilitating
the
East
tank.
B
B
We
have
are
in
the
late
stages
of
completing
our
review
of
water
supply
resiliency
and
what
options
the
utilities
department
has
to
improve
the
resiliency
of
our
water
supply
and
we're
replacing
the
intake
bar
screens
at
the
Monroe
plant.
The
first
one
of
the
two
screens
has
been
replaced
and
the
second
one
is
in
progress
now.
B
And
the
sewer
Works
we're
planning
to
rehabilitate
15
700
feet
of
pipe
30,
lateral
connections
and
30
manholes
we're
working
on
the
sewer
improvements
near
Catalan.
That's
a
a
grant
funded
project
from
the
state.
We
are
designing
the
final
stage
of
the
Dillman
Road
modernization
and
capacity
improvements,
we're
hoping
to
be
re-rated
to
20
million
gallons
per
day
by
item.
B
It's
a
lot
of
ambitious
goals
in
the
storm
water
utility.
We
completed
the
Devon
Lane
bio
retention
facility.
We've
done
a
lot
of
in-kind
support
for
various
projects,
constructed
three
new
detention
basins.
Our
team
installed
the
new
electrical
conduits
near
the
Von
Lee.
In
anticipation
of
the
the
last
phase
of
the
downtown
storm
water
tunnel
projects
we
implemented
the
first
phase
of
our
stormwater
master
plan
that
was
completed
in
2022
is
that
right,
22
yeah,
yeah,
funded
11
additional
rain
Gardens
at
various
cities.
B
Projects
completed
the
Wetland
mitigation
at
the
weemer
former
Weimer
Lake
and
We've
adopted
the
maintenance
portion
of
the
street
sweeping
program
that
we've
spoken
about
a
number
of
times.
B
So
as
we
start
to
talk
about
our
goals
for
2024,
we
organize
these
goals
using
the
the
eum
framework.
As
we've
discussed
discussed
in
the
past,
there
are
10
activity
areas
in
the
that
are
outlined
in
the
budget,
memo
of
things
like
product
quality
and
resource
viability
and
so
forth.
We
own
in
the
presentation
in
the
interest
of
Saving
Time
Will
present
only
the
five
largest
ones.
B
So,
overall
for
product
quality
we
allocate
about
of
that
number
is
13.3
million
dollars
over
overall
for
the
for
for
product
quality
throughout
the
system.
Our
goals
on
the
water
side
for
product
quality
are
to
operate.
24
7
365,
without
exceeding
more
than
two-thirds
of
the
EPA
limits
for
disinfection
byproducts
to
complete
the
lead
service
line,
inventory.
B
And
in
the
storm
water
quality,
a
complete
two
one-time
implementation
items
from
the
water
storm
water
master
plan,
we
are
working
and
hoping
to
complete
the
development
of
a
comprehensive
stormwater
design
manual
that
would
go
to
customers,
developers
and
so
forth.
We
would
assess
the
condition
24
5
of
the
stormwater
system
and
actually
implement
the
ms4
based
street
sweeping
program
this
year.
We're
doing
the
study
to
design
how
that
ms4
based
street
sweeping
would
take
place
next
year.
We
would
begin
doing
it.
B
For
operational,
optimization,
there's
a
grand
total
of
about
6.2
million
dollars
dedicated
to
that
one
of
the
big
parts
of
that
is
in
full
implementation
and
deployment
of
City
Works,
Asset
Management,
that's
going
to
unify
or
is
unifying
I
should
say
all
of
our
work
orders
for
all
of
our
different
utilities
and
all
the
different
activities
that
we
do
we'll
continue
to
deploy
at
least
three
new
decision
sport
tools.
B
Each
year
we
now
have
I,
don't
know
if,
if
you
haven't
been
back
in
the
admin
section,
we
now
have
a
touch
screen
display
with
that
provides
access
to
data
for
various
parts
of
our
operation
by
you
can
browse
around
through
the
tables
and
the
the
graphs
using
that
that
new
display
we'll
integrate
the
and
expand
the
use
of
C
works
by
integrating
the
it
pipe
software
and
then
we'll
complete,
implement
the
rest
of
the
work
order.
Management
for
the
street
sweeping
activities.
B
B
B
B
Well,
that's
the
touch
screen
display
I
mentioned
a
moment
ago,
and
finally,
infrastructure
strategy
and
performance.
This
is
a
the
process
of
ensuring
that
we
have
a
reliable
infrastructure
throughout
our
system.
This
is
about
10.2
million
dollars
of
our
overall
budget,
and
part
of
it
is
to
move
ahead
with
the
potential
development
Redevelopment
of
the
Winston
Thomas
campus,
where
we
have
completed
the
initial
financial
analysis
and
we're
going
to
move
ahead
with,
hopefully
move
ahead
with
facilities
design
as
the
next
phase
moving
into
the
fourth
quarter,.
B
On
the
Waterside
infrastructure
strategy,
we
will
can
do
the
conduct,
the
financial
analysis
and
rate
case
for
the
Water
Works.
That
would
be
that
case
would
happen
in
2024
to
be
implemented
in
2025.
We
will
replace
at
least
a
mile
of
water
mains
or
perhaps
more
we'll
replace
the
Aging
variable
frequency
drives
at
the
Monroe
treatment
plant.
B
We
are
looking
you've
already
heard
about
a
guaranteed
savings
project
to
replace
chemical
feed
lines,
additional
additional
backwash
tank
and
modifications
to
the
backwash
pumps
and
to
replace
a
lot
of
valve
actuators
at
Monroe.
We
also
will
be
working
on
the
refurbishment
of
the
South
Central
booster.
That's
the
one
right
next
to
us
here
at
sea,
at
the
service
center
and
the
West
booster
pumping
station.
B
If
the
resource
recovery
project
moves
along
in
24,
we
would
need
to
complete
facility
design,
secure
the
financing
and
begin
the
construction.
We
will
begin
phase
two
of
the
Dillman
improvements
project.
Continue
our
sewer
lining
projects,
as
we
have
in
recent
years,
upgrade
10
more
lift
stations
and
continue
the
Clearwater
program
and
add
a
canine
unit.
B
Yeah
did
that
say,
canine
unit
I,
don't
know
if
everybody's
heard
about
this
so
I
know,
I've
talked
about
it
with
some
of
you.
Infill
inflow
and
infiltration
of
storm.
Water
is
a
big
problem
for
us.
A
lot
of
that
comes
through
openings.
Big
openings
and
pipes
are
measurable
size,
openings
and
pipes.
Also,
sometimes
it's
coming
from
leaking
laterals
and
so
forth.
B
It
turns
out
that
over
the
course
of
the
Year
about
a
quarter
of
the
water
that
goes
through,
the
Dillman
plant
fell
as
rain
in
the
time
preceding
its
arrival
at
the
plant.
This
is
due
to
degraded
sewers
and
aging
sewers.
Also,
we've
been
having,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
lateral
strikes
and
Sewer
strikes
from
all
the
fiber
optic
activity.
B
So
over
the
years
we've,
the
last
few
years,
we've
noticed
a
couple,
a
number
of
utilities,
a
couple
of
them
in
the
states
actually
have
trained
dogs
to
do
things
like
sniff
or
chlorine
at
water
main
breaks,
sniffer
sewer
gas
where
sewers
are
leaking,
and
we
would
like
to
try
to
do
that.
This
would
require
that
we
hire
a
Handler
to
to
manage
a
dog.
We
would
we
would
acquire
a
a
dog
that
had
been
bred
for
this
purpose.
They
would
train
them
to.
B
We
would
train
them
to
sniff
for
sewer
gas
and
we're
not
inventing
it.
This
has
actually
been
done
elsewhere
and
we've
had
extensive
conversation
with
BPD
about
the
possibilities
of
a
system
like
this.
We
would
like
to
attempt
this
program
starting
in
2024,
and
hopefully,
especially
if
we
can
find
things
like
sewer
line
strikes
and
sewer
line
leaks.
We
could
prevent
a
lot
of
future
problems
and
hopefully
save
a
lot
of
people
a
lot
of
money
on
things
that
should
be
paid
for
by
contractors
that
did
the
damage.
B
Up:
okay
in
storm
water,
we
will
continue
our
work
with
the
residential
stormwater
grants
program.
We
revise
the
way
that
operates
every
year
to
try
and
optimize
its
performance.
We
will
complete
the
Upstream
Inlet
improvements
near
6th
and
Indiana.
That
would
be
the
last
phase
of
the
downtown
Clear
Creek
Tunnel.
It
takes
the
water
from
IU
all
the
way
down
to
First
and
Washington,
and
we
will
have
an
operational
street
sweeping
program
that
are
based
on
recommendations
from
the
street.
Sweeping
routing
plan.
B
The
revenue
budgets
for
for
all
departments
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
the
water
utilities,
that's
related
to
the
second
phase
of
the
2021
rate
case,
going
into
effect
that
was
implemented
in
two
phases.
The
first
was
in
2022.
The
second
is
in
oops
is
in
2024
sewer
and
storm
water,
where
these
increases
are
based
on
a
an
assumption
increase
if
somewhat
increased
demand.
If
this
all
pans
out,
this
would
be
the
first
time
that
cbu's
overall
revenues
exceeded
50
million
dollars.
B
In
the
Water,
Works
I
think
there's
an
error
in
this
table
that
we
can
it's
at
the
bottom
of
the
table.
We
we
will
correct
this
table
and
send
it
out
to
you,
but
overall
we're
seeing
increases
according
to
inflation
and
in
the
ones
and
twos
and
threes,
and
then
we'll
recap.
We
have
to
recalculate
the
numbers
in
the
table
based
on
the
other
changes,
so
I
apologize
for
the
increase
in
for
the
errors
in
the
2024
proposed
column.
B
That
leads
to
a
decrease
in
the
available
cash
for
enr
in
extensions
and
Replacements
in
any
given
year.
So
this
is
what
we
typically
see
year
by
year
during
a
rate
cycle.
So,
overall,
the
the
total
increase
for
the
total
change
in
the
budget
is
around
three
hundred.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
for
sewer.
B
In
the
storm
water
utility,
things
are
pretty
pretty
flat
in
terms
of
revenues.
We
do
have
an
increase
in
the
sinking
fund
related
to
the
the
project,
that's
going
to
happen
at
6th
and
Indiana
in
2024.
We
anticipate
that
we
will
be
bonding
for
that
project
and
that
is
included
here.
So
overall,
the
the
change
in
the
entire
budget
is
around
twenty
six
thousand
dollars,
but
most
of
most
of
the
changes
happened
with
the
with
the
debt
surface.
B
Let
me
say
again
we're
not
anticipating
a
change
in
any
of
the
in
the
storm
water
fee
in
2024,
but
some
of
the
capital
Investments
that
we
were
going
to
do
in
storm
in
2024
we'd
originally
planned
to
do
them
in
cash
and
as
a
pay-as-you-go
basis,
but
the
that
project
at
6th
and
Indiana
is
turning
out
to
be
about
two
and
a
half
times
as
much
money
as
we
had
anticipated
when
we
did
the
rate
case,
so
we're
going
to
bond
for
that
project.
B
So
in
the
2024
budget
projects
a
budget
supports
our
stated
goals,
explicitly
identifying
how
our
activities
affect
carbon
emissions.
B
Expanding
our
climate
action
programs,
increasing
our
capacity
for
wastewater
treatment,
optimizing
our
drinking
water
quality
through
treatment
improvements,
replacing
our
aging
water
mains,
making
Capital
Improvements
to
our
storm
water
system,
modernizing
our
business
practices
and
processes
working
to
improve
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
for
our
Workforce
and
for
our
customers,
and
if
USB
and
Council
approve
of
the
move,
we
would
plan
to
complete
the
facilities,
design
and
final
financial
analysis
for
redevelopment
at
Winston
Thomas
and
hopefully
begin
construction
during
2024..
B
B
We
did
that
was
included
in
the
last
sewer
storm.
Sorry
in
the
last
storm
water
rate,
review,
We
included
money
for
street,
sweeping
we're
taking
on
not
all
of
the
street
sweeping
responsibilities
of
the
Cities
but
of
the
city,
but
building
a
program.
That's
specifically
identifies
issues
that
wear
street
sweeping
is
compromising
storm
water
quality
or
storm
water
flow,
so
that
was
included
in
the
last
great
review,
we'll
be
spending
stormwater
money
on
that.
Starting
on
that
portion
of
2024.
I
B
I
Okay,
thanks
and
I
I
guess
the
same
along
the
same
lines.
You
know
on
supplies
and
equipment,
and
things
like
that.
What
that
you
know
what
kind
of
fiscal
impact
that
has
for
24
over
23,
because
it
you
know
it's
well.
B
We're
getting
them
the
we're
getting
equipment
from
the
public
works
department,
but
we
have
until
the
sweeping
study
is
complete.
We
don't
know
exactly
what
we're
buying
yet
yeah.
B
F
B
B
H
B
I,
don't
think
nervous
is,
is
right.
I
think
we're
optimistic
that
it's
going
to
help
with
the
storm
with
the
ms4
program.
B
H
F
E
The
fall
okay
yep
and
this
can't
the
canine
project,
yeah
I,
think
this
is
very
Innovative
and
I.
Think
that's
it's
great
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
doing
something.
That's
that
I,
don't
know
I
just
I
like
us,
looking
at
different
opportunities
for
us
to
to
to
find
the
I,
don't
know
how
to
say
I,
don't
know
how
to
say
this
right
way,
like
I.
Think
it's
a
great
idea
to
explore,
but
are
we
trying
to
be
leaders
in
this?
E
B
E
B
Whole
operation,
it's
a
pretty
small
piece,
it's
one
of
those
things
that
has
a
huge
upside
if
it
works
well,
especially
for
customers
that
are
face.
If
we
can
identify
when
somebody's
had
a
strike
on
their
Sewer
Lateral.
We'll
save
our
customers,
lots
and
lots
of
money
by
doing
that
by
because
the
contractor
that
broke
their
lateral
will
be
responsible
for
it.
So.
B
Would
have
been
well
and
that's
not
going
to
stop
the
the
project,
for
that
AEG
is
executing
that's
a
three-year
or
four-year
project.
So
perfect,
those
guys
are
not
going
away,
nobody's
going
to
stop
directional
drilling
next
year
or
the
year
after.
So
that's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
problem,
and
this
is
no
one
has
really
come
up
with
a
reliable
way
of
finding
lateral
strikes.
Much
less.
We
have
we've
had
cases
where.
B
Employees
were
working
on
a
completely
different
thing
and
discovered
a
hole
in
a
sewer
pipe.
If
you
have
a
sizeable
hole
in
a
sewer,
pipe
storm,
water
will
just
rush
right
into
it.
So
when
you
find
those
holes,
you
fix
them,
but
the
question
is
always
they're
underground.
How
do
you
find
them,
and
so
the
the
whole
idea
of
this
is
that
dogs
are
better
at
smelling
sewer
gas
than
we
are
and
they
get
they
and
they
stand
a
lot
closer
to
the
ground,
so
one
that
was
well
trained
could
possibly
identify
those
holes.
B
Well,
if
you
find
one
big
hole
in
a
sewer,
you've
paid
for
a
lot
and-
and
you
know,
certainly-
we
can
explore
we're-
always
doing
sewer
lining
projects.
It
would
be
useful
to
be
able
to
identify
locations
that
that
maybe
we
hadn't
already
identified
as
possible
sewer
lining
opportunity.
So
my
my
thinking
is
that
certainly
we
we
would
look
at
it
as
something
we
would
start
doing,
see
how
it
performs
and
cut
and
yeah.
B
E
I
think
it's
a
great
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
a
great
thing
to
explore
in
an
Innovative
creative
way
to
do
it,
and
you
know
I,
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
spend
and
it
is,
it
is
a
in
the
in
the
larger
picture
of
the
budget
is
a
small
amount
of
money,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
doing
something
foolish
right.
B
E
I
I
B
I
Well
sure,
I'm,
just
thinking
that
you
know
we
have
you
know
the
the
Gas
Utilities
for
natural
gas
have
ways
to
sense
that
in
various
concentrations,
just
wonder
if
chemically
it's
somewhat
the
same
or
if
there
are.
You
know,
manufacturers
that
make
sensors
for
this
type
of
gas
instead
of
what's
the
usual
natural
gas
sensors
that
they
show
up
with
when
you
think,
you've
got
a
leak
at
your
house
or
whatever.
B
At
the
yeah,
the
the
very
sniffing
for
more
captains
that
they
put
there
on
purpose,
so
that's
a
that's
a
different
gas
entirely.
The
question
of
is,
if
they're
on
the
market
right,
the
Shelf
sensors
on
the
market,
I,
don't
know
of
any
Phil.
You
might
know
of
something.
I
Okay,
my
second
point
on
all
is
is
historical
back
when
city
government
was
first
thinking
about
canines
for
law
enforcement
purposes.
This
was
a
very
sensitive
topic,
because
one
of
a
government
vehicle
shows
up
in
your
front
yard,
with
a
dog
people.
Some
people
really
get
nervous
about
that.
I
I
can
see
all
sorts
of
suspicions
and
nervousness
about
a
city
of
Bloomington
SUV
showing
up
in
somebody's
front
yard
or
wherever
it
might
be,
and
it
it
says,
canine
and
then
canine
sniffer,
even
though
it
says
utilities
or
whatever
people
are
going
to
get
nervous
about
that
it
took
a
while
for
I.
Remember
those
days
it
took
a
while
for
the
city
council
to
accept
the
idea
of
canine
services
for
the
police
department.
H
I
B
H
I
Yeah
I
mean
we
know
it's
going
to
be
safe
and
it's
going
to
be
trained
to
be
safe,
and
it's
going
to
you
know
all
that
sort
of
thing,
but
it's
just
the
idea
of
government
showing
up
at
your
house
with
a
dog
jumping
out
of
the
back
of
what
looks
like
in
some
people's
eyes
a
police
car
right.
This
is
going
to
be
this
probably
the
same
kind
of
vehicle
they
use
so.
F
F
B
Jim
yeah
we're
going
to
do
we're.
Obviously,
if
we
do
this
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
public
Outreach
and
eventually
the
there's,
you
would
hope
that
if
this
program
is
off
is
working
well,
the
dog
eventually
becomes
an
ambassador
at
public
events,
so
that
people
can
get
to
know
about
what
we're
doing.
Certainly.
B
I
A
Want
to
acknowledge
that
we
are
past
five
o'clock
for
our
start
time
of
our
regular
meeting.
So
our
subcommittee
will
just
continue
on
for
a
couple
more
minutes
here,
so
my
comments
would
be
so
the
dog
would
stay
with
the
Handler.
Is
there
a
possibility
that
this
could
be
someone?
That's
already
current
CBU
employee
that
they
would
be
interested
in
this
to
to
take
this
on
if.
B
A
A
Okay
and
I
noticed
that
the
budgeting
was
nine
thousand
dollars
less
the
first
year.
Is
that
just
because
we
wouldn't
expect
to
get
things
up
and
rolling
until
or
they
wouldn't
the
dog
wouldn't
be.
You
know
actively
I.
A
Okay,
I
think
this
sounds
like
a
great
idea
very
as
Amanda
used
the
word
Innovative
I,
like
the
Outreach
aspect
of
it
I
think
there's
maybe
I
just
heard
about
it
today.
So
I've
got
like
more
questions
and
things
I
guess
not
in
not
like
I
wouldn't
vote
for
that
question,
but
just.
C
A
Know
thinking
about
logistically
I'd
like
to
to
hear
more
about
that?
Are
there
any
other
questions
on
this
topic?
First,
okay
and
then
are
there
other
questions
on
the
budget.
B
We
can
update
the
tables
and
so
forth.
If
you
have
additional
questions.
I
I
will
not
be
in
Bloomington
on
the
14th.
B
B
B
And
the
others
can
speak
to
it
as
well
as
I
can
so,
but
I
would
be
I
would
be
remote
that
day.
Okay,
that's
all
all.
A
Okay,
I
had
just
a
couple
more
comments
that
I
just
want
to
throw
out
there,
just
I
guess
because
I
won't
remember
to
say
them
again
so
I
know
we
have
some
money
allocated
for
the
friends
of
Lake
Monroe
and
the
Lake
Monroe
Watershed,
which
I
think
is
important.
I'm
wondering
and
I
know
that
I've
heard
bits
and
pieces
about
what
they
do
throughout
the
year.
A
A
Okay
about
that,
but
okay,
so
thank
you
just
continue
that
I
know
you
mentioned
about
having
you
know
every
someone
on
site-
that's
CPR!
Certified!
Forgive
me
if
this
has
been
mentioned
before,
but
do
we
have?
What
do
we
have
aeds
at
all
of
our
sites
are
in
our
trucks
like
if
we
have
a
big
work
site,
if
we
got
more
than
10
people
on
site,
we
have
you
know
one
that
can
be
there
or
that
was
just
a
random
number,
but
is.
A
I
just
wondered:
I
think
that
you
hear
more
and
more
about
how
invaluable
they
are
saving
lives,
and
so,
if
that's
you
know
something
that
would
be
good
to
have.
Maybe,
okay
any
other
comments
all
right.
Do
we
have
a
motion
today
to
approve
the
budget
or
table
the
budget
I've
heard
discussed.
A
Okay,
so
our
committee
would
then
recommend
it
to
the
the
main,
the
regular
meeting,
that
yes.
A
With
updated
tables,
yes,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
petitions
in
Communications
all
right
hearing?
None
do
I,
have
a
motion
for
adjournment.
Okay,.