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Description
June 14, 2022 Housing and Redevelopment Authority Meeting
B
A
C
A
Opposed
same
sign,
thank
you.
Moving
on
to
item
number
three
approval
of
the
minutes
of
may
24th
2022.
Are
there
any
additions
or
corrections
to
the
minutes?
I
believe
only
you
three
were
there
hearing.
None.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
to
approve
the
may
24th
2022
minutes
so
moved?
Second,
it
has
been
moved
by
commissioner
hukim
with
the
second
by
commissioner
martin
to
approve
the
may
24th
2022
hra
board
meeting
minutes,
my
myra
I'll.
Have
you
just.
A
E
E
Thank
you,
members
of
the
commission.
My
name
is
jim
miketon
with
mmkr
cpas,
see
how
quickly
went
through
that
with
all
of
the
lingo
beloy
margie
karnowski
rudosovich
is
the
firm
name,
but
I'm
here
this
evening
to
provide
a
presentation.
A
brief
one.
At
that
of
the
audit
results
for
the
year
end
of
december
31st
2021
for
the
housing
redevelopment
authority,
it
is
you're
gonna
have
to
help
me
is.
E
E
E
So
the
role
of
the
auditor
with
the
housing
redevelopment
authority
of
the
hra
is
to
provide
an
audit,
an
opinion
on
the
financial
statements
of
the
organization,
so
the
housing
redevelopment
authority
is
required
to
have
an
annual
financial
statement
prepared.
That
particular
financial
statement
is
is
included
in
the
city
of
bloomington's
financial
report.
E
It
is
defined
in
governmental
accounting
standards
as
a
component
unit
of
the
city,
and
I
don't
necessarily
need
to
describe
all
the
definitions
and
and
how
we
get
there,
but
you
are
included
in
the
city's
report
as
a
component
unit,
so
that
particular
report
when
issued
is
about
250
pages.
Long
is
a
very
lengthy
report
and
there
are
many
aspects
of
the
the
hra
included
in
that
particular
report.
E
So,
as
an
auditor,
I'm
providing
an
opinion
on
that
one
main
report,
which
is
you're
a
component
unit
of
it
as
it
stands
today,
all
of
the
audit
procedures
have
been
completed.
They
are
in
the
midst
of
of
producing
the
report
and
getting
it
prepared
and
and
finalizing
it.
But
everything
is
final
at
this
particular
moment.
E
So
the
role
the
auditor
is
to
provide
an
opinion
on
that
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report.
As
I
mentioned,
the
audit
is
guided
by
the
office
of
the
state
auditor,
as
well
as
the
the
federal
government
is
in
the
state
of
minnesota,
as
well
as
the
us
government,
so
they
provide
us
with
requirements
for
auditing.
We
test
your
internal
controls
specifically
to
financial
reporting.
E
We
test
your
compliance
with
laws
and
regulations
that
relate
to
that
financial
reporting.
Specifically,
that
could
be
in
the
realm
of
grants
or
aids
you're
getting
from
outside
organizations.
Typically,
we
are
required
to
complete,
what's
called
the
the
the
minnesota
legal
compliance
audit.
The
office
of
the
state
auditor
auditor
provides
us
with
a
list
of
the
statutes
that
we
test
the
the
statutes
change
periodically
depending
on
what
they
find
risky,
or
they
may
have
found
audits
that
are
coming
into
them
that
are
not
being
compliant
with
particular
statutes
that
they
add.
E
So
we
do
do
don't
test
every
law,
but
just
the
ones
on
that
list
then.
Lastly,
we
issue,
what's
called
a
single
audit
of
federal
awards.
The
city
received
a
significance.
It
receives
a
significant
amount
of
federal
awards,
so
some
of
the
hra
funds
would
be
considered
that
particular
in
that
particular
category,
so
the
federal
government
guides
our
audit
in
that
we
only
audit
major
programs
and
major
program
is
defined
in
standard
and
it
typically
creates
a
rotating
type
of
program
audit.
E
So
this
year
we
audited
three
major
programs,
which
were
probably
a
little
bit
different
than
we'd
done
in
the
past,
which
is
okay.
It's
how
the
federal
government
outlines
it
and
really
didn't.
You
know
we
didn't
have
any
challenges
of
note
in
that
area.
That
also
comes
with
us
testing
the
internal
controls
over
compliance,
which
again
relates
back
to
those
those
single
audits,
as
mentioned.
F
E
E
In
terms
of
the
internal
controls,
we
did
not
have
any
findings
to
report
in
the
city's
audit
report.
This
year
we
did
have
one
up
a
finding,
in
particular,
with
the
minnesota
state,
statutes
legal
compliance,
audit
that
related
to
the
timely
payment
of
invoices.
So
it
is
a
minnesota
statute
that
the
government,
any
government,
is
required
to
pay
its
invoices
within
35
days
of
receipt
of
the
invoice
or
receipt
of
the
services.
Whatever
comes
later,
so
we
do
testing
around
that.
E
E
E
There
was
some
personnel
challenges
within
our
department
and
we,
as
we
were
going
through
our
own
internal
controls,
noted
that
things
weren't
being
paid
as
appropriately,
and
we
have
since
put
in
corrective
action
to
correct
this,
and
so
we
did
some
follow-up
testing
on
that,
and
you
could
see
about
about
the
time
where
this
personnel
matter
was
resolved
and
all
of
a
sudden
things
were
being
paid
on
a
timely
basis,
so
to
have
a
finding
of
this
nature.
As
on
a
board
of
your
level,
it's
important
to
understand
that
audits
come
with
findings.
E
E
So,
moving
on
to
the
single
audit
of
federal
awards,
we
did
also
have
one
finding
in
that
particular
audit
as
well,
and
that
related
to
the
major
program,
community
development
block,
grant-
probably
better
known
as
cdbg
to
to
the
common
accountant
anyway.
So
there
is
a
requirement
in
the
cdbg
program,
which
is
something
new.
E
I
would
say
that
for
this
year
anytime,
there
is
a
direct,
your
anytime,
you
are
a
a
direct
recipient
of
cdbg
funds
and
you
pass
those
funds
along
to
a
sub
award
grantee
somebody
else
other
than
the
city
you're
required
to
report
that
into
their
system
and
that
didn't
occur.
That
did
that
simple,
two-line
report
that
says
we
sub-granted
to
two
eight
organizations.
E
F
E
If
you
look
at
the
reporting
category
in
this
testing
and
what
we
do
to
test
reporting,
which
is
the
element
that
this
finding
requires,
it
is
a
long
list-
and
this
is
one
of
many-
so
really
not
a
severe
item
to
be
be
concerned
about
whatsoever
so
move
forward.
My
reports
also
include
what
I
would
describe
as
the
second
part
of
the
audit,
which
is
financial
results,
I'm
going
to
skip
ahead
to
that.
E
So
the
overall
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
the
year
did
increase.
If
you
collectively
add
up
all
of
the
governmental
funds,
they
are
broken
down
both
by
classification
and
by
by
fund
type
there.
Overall,
the
fund
balance
increased
by
about
2
million
and
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
right,
you'll
note
that
most
of
that
was
in
the
tax
increment
fund,
almost
half
of
it
and
the
other
half
was
in
the
the
housing
rehabilitation
fund.
E
So
there
are
some
dollars
there
that
revenues
were
in
excess
of
program
activity
is
really
the
the
way
to
the
way
to
look
at
that
should
that,
should
you
be
concerned
should
be
there
in
action
plan.
No,
it
is
just
a
reflection
on
your
your
financial
results
for
the
year,
so
the
hra
also
runs
what
are
described
as
enterprise
funds.
E
Enterprise
funds
are
defined
in
government
accounting
standard
as
businesses,
and
so
you
have
a
presentation
here
on
the
enterprise
funds,
showing
the
assistance,
rental
and
the
property
management
funds
showing
a
slight
decline
in
the
overall
fund
balance,
but
certainly
nothing
concerning
the
fund
net
position.
The
end
of
the
year
was
about
1.4
million,
which
those
that
those
particular
funds
are
are
not
a
large
activity
fund,
and
so
so
the
resources
there
are
appropriate.
E
E
So
to
wrap
things
up,
my
reports
and
the
work
that
we
do
do
provide
a
lot
of
information
on
other
issues,
including
legislative
activity,
future
accounting
issues.
There
are
some
major
accounting
changes
in
governmental
accounting
standards
that
are
coming
up
over
the
next
few
years.
Most
of
that
has
been
provided
to
the
finance
staff,
who
are
more
are
as
aware
of
it
as
I
am
when
it
comes
to
the
work
that's
needed
in
that
area,
so
so,
lastly,
I
wanted
to
summarize,
I
was
able
to
issue
a
clean
opinion
on
that
financial
statements.
E
I
did
report
the
two
findings
which
we
addressed.
I
do
wanna
provide
some
context
on
bullet
point
three,
that
the
city
did
receive
a
certificate
of
excellent
financial
reporting.
I
mentioned
the
250-page
report
last
night.
If
you
were
here,
there
was
a
big
celebration
over
such
a
accomplishment
because
it
was
the
50th
year
of
such
a
certificate.
E
So
that's
an
accomplishment
says
a
lot
about
the
city
and
its
interest
in
financial
reporting
and
and
and
keeping
doing
the
best
you
can
and
being
the
best
practices
when
it
comes
to
achievements
in
that
area,
so
below
4.3
talks,
I
did
talk
about
the
improved
financial
position
and,
lastly,
just
state
overall,
the
the
the
operation
and
the
financial
business
office
here
do
an
exceptional
job
in
this
audit
process.
It's
a
lot
that
goes
on
and
they
do
exceptional
work.
C
A
A
D
So
in
your
packet,
what
you
do
have
is
just
some
information
that
was
included
in
terms
of
other
boards
or
commissions
within
the
city
of
bloomington
that
have
been
in
discussion
or
talking
about
having
specific
populations.
Specific
community
populations
represented.
One
of
those
in
particular,
is
a
youth
and
or
young
adult
seat
for
for
that
voice.
D
So
we
have
the
presentation
up
and,
like
I
said
this
is
a
open
discussion,
and
so
I
wanted
to
start
with
the
background
as
to
how
we
got
here.
Well,
that
would
be
the
hra
board
passing
resolution
2021-25,
and
so
this
was
a
resolution
approving
a
memorandum
to
the
city
of
bloomington,
mayor
city,
council,
city
manager,
recommending
changes
to
the
composition
of
the
board
of
commissioners
for
the
hra.
D
That
reason
was
to
allow
for
greater
representation
of
the
various
communities
that
make
up
the
bloomington
community
in
which
we
serve,
and
so
the
bill
language
that
was
being
requested
is
that
the
city
of
bloomington
shall
have
a
housing
redevelopment
authority
which
is
subject
to
minnesota
statutes.
Chapter
469.
D
So
it
says
that
we
shall
consist
up
to
seven
commissioners
who
shall
be
residents
of
the
area
of
operation
of
the
authority
as
well
as
who
should
be
appointed
after
resolution
becomes
finally
effective,
which
the
resolution
is
creating
the
hra
we
became
effective
years
ago,
and
then,
if
any
additional
commissioners
are
appointed,
one
of
the
commissioners
must
be
appointed
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
code
of
federal
regulations.
Title
24
964.
D
But
then
it
also
touches
on
the
appointment,
and
the
reason
I
bring
this
up
is
because
we
did
have
quick
discussion
just
a
brief
about
appointment
and
possible
terms.
And
so
what
I
want
to
highlight
here
is
that
those
initially
appointed
shall
be
appointed
for
terms
of
one
two,
three
four
and
five
years
respectively.
D
However,
thereafter
all
commissioners
shall
be
appointed
for
a
five-year
term,
so
it
is
clear
in
statute
that
we
could
choose
a
shorter
term
in
the
beginning,
but
if
they
are
reappointed,
it
is
a
five-year
term.
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clear
on
that
piece
next
slide
and
then,
since
I
keep
mentioning
federal
code
regulations,
title
24,
part
964.
D
What
part
964
is
is
referencing,
tenant
participation
and
tenant
opportunities
in
public
housing,
and
so
the
purpose
of
this
is
to
recognize
the
importance
of
resident
involvement
and
create
a
positive
living
environment
and
the
applicability
and
scope
is
that
policies
and
procedures
contained
in
this
part
apply
to
any
public
housing
authority
that
has
a
public
housing
annual
contributions
contract
with
hud
the
housing
redevelopment
authority
is
not
a
public
housing
authority.
We
do
not
have
public
housing,
the
our
public
housing
was
converted
back
in
2013..
D
D
So
with
that,
I
just
added
a
couple
of
high-level
questions.
Would
the
board
like
to
identify
specific
community
subgroups
for
seats?
Some
of
those
subgroups
could
be
young
adults
18
to
24
hra
housing
programs,
participants,
rental
property
manager,
owner
non-profit
group,
member
others.
You
may
have
thoughts.
D
Would
the
board
like
to
consider
initial
term
less
than
five
years
and
that
per
statute
commissioners
must
be
a
bloomington
resident
and
then,
if
reappointed
appointed
for
five
years,
and
the
reason
I
stress
that
is
because
I
know
we
did
have
a
little
bit
of
high
level
discussion
about
students
at
our
community
colleges
or
colleges
or
many
schools
that
we
have
here.
They
still
need
to
live
in
bloomington
according
to
statute,
to
be
able
to
serve
on
the
board
and
so
from
there.
D
I
would
like
to
open
up
for
thoughts,
discussion
feedback,
because
what
this
will
inform
is
how
we
may
need
to
update
our
bylaws
and
the
possibility
of
when
we
would
open
up
for
application
for
the
new
two
two
new
commissioner
seats
and
then
when
we
would
like
to
have
them
seated
whether
that
would
be
first
of
the
year
2023
beyond
that.
It's
up
to
you!
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
definitely
am
interested
in
having
a
participant
on
our
board.
I
think
that
it's
really
important
for
us
to
get
that
feedback
in
the
community
that
we're
really
serving,
and
it's
important
for
them
to
have
a
strong
voice.
I
believe
on
this
board,
so
I'm
I'm
definitely
advocating
for
a
program
participant,
and
I
would
when
I
say
that
we
have
multiple
programs.
G
So
I
think
that
discussion
needs
to
maybe
happen
on
if
we
want
it
any
program
or
if
we're
wanting
to
really
limit
that
you
know
are
we
do
we
want
to
include
our
loan
programs
or
don't
we?
I
guess
that
would
be
kind
of
a
question
that
I
would
throw
out
there
for
me
I'd
personally.
Rather
someone
who's
really
actively.
G
I
don't
want
to
say
non-loan
programs,
because
I
do
think
some
of
them
are
valuable,
but
I
also
think
that
there's
a
voice
in
people
who
are
really
using
like
section
8
and
things
like
that
and
in
our
rental
program,
like
our
run
to
own
programs.
I
think
those
are
a
little
more
active
as
in
having
an
active
voice
and
that's
just
my
personal
opinion.
Obviously,
but
I
know
that
a
participant
could
be
multiple
different
programs,
so
I'm
leaning,
more
non-loan
and
if
that
makes
sense,.
A
A
H
My
concern
would
be
that
we
are
able
to
find
someone
who
can
dedicate
the
time
to
participate
and
do
the
things
that
we
do
as
hra
board
members
and
that
that
is
with
excuse
me
without
making
changes
to
how
we
structure
city
boards
and
commissions
and
and
how
we
compensate
folks
for
their
time
and
so
on.
My
concern
is
that
that
would
be
very
challenging,
given
the
nature
of
folks
who
would
be
participating
in
these
programs,
but
I
I
think
it
really
would
be.
H
D
Thank
you,
commissioner
coulter.
That
actually
makes
perfect
sense.
So,
to
answer
a
few
of
your
questions,
one,
the
the
statute,
doesn't
impact
anybody's
term
currently
on
the
hra
board,
because
there's
not
term
limits
and
in
the
statute
and
there's
not
turn
limits
in
our
bylaws.
So
everybody
that's
on
the
board
is
just
fine
in
terms
of
when
current
board
member
seats
are
up
one
in
2022,
one
in
2023
and
two
in
2025,
because
as
council
members,
your
board
term
runs
with
your
council
appointment,
your
count,
your
elected
council
seat.
H
H
I
just
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
terms
line
up
such
that
you
know
it's
three
one
year,
two
years
later,
it's
four
or
something
like
that
right,
so
that
there's
that
kind
of
consistency
and
expectation,
rather
than
oh
someone
resigned,
so
we're
gonna
appoint
a
new
person
for
five
years,
even
though
their
term
would
have
been
up
the
next
year
or
something
like
that.
So
I
think
that
kind
of
process
is
going
to
be
helpful
for
really
managing
the
board
and
and
managing
the
work
that
comes
before
the
board.
G
Commissioner,
to
piggyback
off
of
that,
I
know
because
I
did
take
over
a
term,
and
so
I
just
took
over
the
remaining
of
that
term.
So,
right
now,
they're
not
reappoint
they're
not
appointed
a
five
year.
They
just
is
so.
If
someone
resigns
the
the
person
that
is,
is
filling
that
fills
just
that
term.
So,
like
I
had
a,
I
think
it
was
a
two
year
and
then
then
I
had
to
reapply.
G
The
only
thing
I
will
say
is
I
like
your
idea
of
kind
of
groups,
but
I
don't.
I
never
want
to
see
it
a
whole
group
at
one
time
because
I
feel
like
if
you
re-elected
a
whole
new
board,
you're
kind
of
opening
up
a
can
of
worms
too,
because
there
is
some
experience
that
needs
to
come
in
these
positions
too,
that
I've
learned
being
new.
Is
I've
really
had
I've
really
leaned
on
commissioners
that
have
been
here
to
kind
of
help
through
the
process
and
learning?
Just
all
there
is
especially
on
this
board.
G
A
H
If
I
could
another
just
another
thought
here
is
perhaps
not
four
and
three
because
then
you're
reappointing
a
majority
of
the
board
in
one
go
given
that
they're
five
year
terms.
It
could
be
something
like
two
three
two
and
then
you
have
a
gap
year
gap
two
gap,
two
years
or
something
like
that.
Just
a
thought
there,
but
I
I
think
staggering
staggering.
The
terms,
I
think,
is
absolutely
a
good,
a
good
suggestion,
because
you
don't
want
that
mass
turnover.
Absolutely.
C
C
Maybe
we've
just
been
lucky
because
with
only
five
commissioners,
it
certainly
has
been
a
possibility,
and
I
believe
that
with
seven
commissioners
it
it
may
continue
to
work
well
without
having
to
you
know,
figure
out
staggering
terms
and
so
forth,
but
back
to
the
subgroups.
For
a
moment
you
know
they're
all
great
categories
I
think
for
potentially,
but
I
think
that
our
councils
of
the
past
have
done
a
good
job
of
assessing
current
needs
and
I
think
our
our
feedback.
C
I
think
in
particular
this
this
past
couple
of
years
that
the
board
has
been
able
to
also
provide
feedback
as
to
what
we
think
might
be
a
a
need
so
to
speak.
So
I'm
I'm
inclined
I
like
again
a
program
participant.
I
think
I'm
very
agreeable
too.
I
look
at
the
other
ones.
I
think
that
they're
good
ideas,
but
do
we
really
want
to
pre?
C
You
know:
ask
the
council
to
choose
from
categories
when
there
might
be
great
people
from
different
categories
and
and
our
needs
change.
You
know
one
we
might
now
be
focused
on.
You
know
as
we
are
on
on
housing
and
affordable
housing,
and
maybe
redevelopment
becomes
a
bigger
issue
and
really
need
some,
some
members
of
the
board
that
have
a
higher
expertise
in
that
area.
C
There's
one
that's
not
on
here
that
I've
often
thought
could
be
helpful
and
jack
really
filled
that
role
for
a
long
time
in
many
ways,
but
I
I'm
not,
you
know
really
strong
on
the
whole
financial
area
and
numbers
here
are
huge
right
and
the
understanding
of
the
implication
of
those
things.
So
if
we
were
to,
you
know,
choose
anything
whether,
by
sending
a
message
to
the
council
that
we,
we
feel,
there's
a
need
on
the
board
in
existing
need
or
whether
we
would
specify.
C
If
we're
going
to
go
that
route
of
specifying
categories,
then
I
think
a
finance
person
would
be
awesome.
I
have
some
concerns
about
young
adults.
I
I
again
great
idea
I
like
when
boards
have-
and
you
know
I
I
was
thinking
of
younger
than
18,
but
even
18,
to
24..
This
is
this
board,
has
capabilities
that
go
beyond
typical,
a
typical
board
that
simply
makes
recommendations
to
the
city
council.
C
C
C
A
And
I
think
I
would
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
I
think
it's.
The
idea
of
having
a
younger
adult
is
a
good
idea,
but
perhaps
that
that
doesn't
need
to
be
a
subgroup.
That's
someone
who
can
still
apply
and
be
considered
and
say
you
know
18
to
24
or
just
I
think
18
is
a
good
age
to
start,
rather
than
still
in
high
school,
for
some
kids
young
adults.
A
D
So
chair
lewis,
a
thought
listening
to
you.
All's
discussion
are
a
couple
of
thoughts,
one
in
terms
of
young
adult
it
could
be
a
preference
in
the
scoring
or
criteria.
However,
it
could
be
a
preference
where
it's
not
just
a
seat
held
for
that,
but
also
it
could
be
18
to
30
can
go
a
little
bit
higher
up
in
the
age
because
you
want
to
identify.
What's
the
what's
the
purpose,
what
are
you
trying
to
reach?
Is
it?
Is
it
maybe
a
difference
of
opinion,
the
voice
difference
of
experience?
I
I
I
So
that
the
preference,
if
somebody
applied
that
was
perfect
and
said,
here's
what
my
plans
are
you
go,
oh
great,
that
lines
up,
we'd
love
to
have
you
and
a
and
the
hra
kind
of
a
the
program
participant.
I
really
like
the
idea
of
having
somebody.
I
wonder
if
it
makes
more
sense
to
take
the
same
preference
approach,
because
what
happens
if
they're
no
longer
a
program
participant
but
they're,
still
in
bloomington,
so-
and
this
is
good
food
for
thought-
that
I'll
bring
up
with
my
colleagues
as
well.
D
Yes,
real
quickly,
commissioner
martin,
thank
you.
I
did
choose
not
to
bring
co-ed
to
this
meeting,
so
you
all
could
have
the
discussion,
but
that
would
be
the
next
step
is
to
say:
hey
here's
what
they
dre
board
has
said
co-ed.
How
do
we
do
this?
Now?
You
come
back
to
the
meeting
and
let
us
know
how
this
process
would
work.
So,
yes,
that
is
baked
into
the
plan,
all
right.
C
One
thought
that
came
to
mind
is:
if
you
go
back
to
the
statute-
and
it
says
the
mayor
shall
appoint
and
the
council
shall
approve,
or
does
it
really
matter
what
we
I
mean
if
we
were
to
have
categories
and
preferences
the
bottom
line
is
it
really
is
up
to
the
mayor
and
the
council
to
choose,
regardless
of
those
and
again
it
hasn't
worked
all
bad.
I
think
the
council
has
the
best
interest
of
the
community
in
mind
and
I
think
they
they
work
to
select
the
best
people
for
the
positions
so.
D
What
we
were
able
to
do
is
we
did
include
a
commissioner
chair
lewis
on
the
interview
and
committee,
and
then
we
did
a
recommendation
to
the
mayor
in
the
city
council
and
so
from
there.
We
they
are
at
least
hearing
from,
and
they
would
hear
why,
and
so
that's
where
we
would
allow
that
information
to
go
forward,
that
the
hra
board
has
this
preference
or
this
seat.
However,
you
have
decided
you
decide,
and
I
think
it
just
opens
communication
and
allows
for
the
mayor
to
make
an
informed
decision.
G
G
In
my
opinion,
I
see
the
rental
property
manager
owner
as
a
very
valuable
voice
to
coming
from
that
industry
myself,
as
well
as
the
finance
industry,
because
I
am
an
accountant.
So
I
see
the
value
of
both
of
those
working
with
property
managers
that
are
especially
managing
these
programs.
I'm
kind
of
hearing
what
they're,
because
they're
the
ones
that
are
hearing
probably
from
the
tenants
and
the
residents,
the
most
your
property
managers,
especially
are
going
to
be
hearing
that
voice
of
residents.
G
So
maybe,
if
a
resident
can't
maybe
a
property
owner
can
be
that
voice
for
their,
you
know
their
their
residence.
So
I
think
that
that's
that's
actually
a.
I
like
the
idea
of
putting
these
all,
in
my
opinion,
as
preferences
like
giving
just
that
little
extra
checkpoint,
because
I
think
a
non-profit
group
is
also
important
because
you
know,
I
think
the
nonprofit
community
is
very
important
to
the
city
and
to
the
programs
they're,
the
ones
that
a
lot
of
times
are
helping
a
lot
of
our
participants
outside
of
what
we
do.
G
G
Maybe
we
say
that
it's
not
a
five-year
commitment,
it's
a
two-year
commitment,
I
would
say
in
I
would
say
more
than
a
year
just
because
a
year
you're
really
then
doing
more
of
a
high
turnover
you're
not
getting
that
experience.
But
I
do
also
look
at
18
to
30
and
even
18
to
24
of
I'm.
You
know.
I
think
that
many
people
would
be
surprised
how
many
of
them
that
age
group
is
actually
participants
in
our
programs.
G
So
I
think
that
that's
important
too,
and
maybe
when
we
say
participants,
it
brings
me
back
to
the
nice
emails
that
we've
seen
from
you
of
people
that
we've
helped
through
our
programs
just
that
way.
Maybe
those
are
people
that
you
know
community
members.
That
would
very
much
benefit
being
a
part
of
this
board
too.
So
I
think
when
we
think
of
program
participant,
I
think
it
can
also
be
just
people
we've
assisted
through
any
of
our.
G
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
guess
you
know
one
thought
to
consider
here.
You
know,
as
we
think,
about
the
voices
that
we
want
present
at
the
table,
the
folks
that
we
want
participating
in
the
conversation.
Another
approach,
potentially
rather
than
sort
of
expressing
preferences
for
certain
types
of
individuals,
would
be
something
akin
to.
H
You
know,
they're
they're
may
be
a
desire
for
experience
with
housing,
assistance,
programs
or
assistance
in
real
estate
or
development
or
property
management,
or
something
like
that
rather
than
specifying
a
certain
type
of
applicant.
So
then
you
know
the
mayor
is
able
to
sort
of
evaluate
it
under
a
set
of
criteria
rather
than
oh.
We
need
someone
to
fill
this
specific
slot,
because
I
I
think
that
that
may
get
at
that
a
little
bit
better
without
without
the
bylaws
having
to
be
too
prescriptive.
A
C
There
anything,
especially
when
it
falls
into
the
categories
of
of
like
young
adults
and
even
youth
younger
than
18.
Is
there
anything
that
keeps
us
from
having
a
non-voting
member
and
having
that
a
position
that
we
seek
members
for,
and
you
know
actively
seek
them
and
ask
for
their
active
participation.
Even
though
they're
not
voting
members.
D
So
I
have
to
answer
your
question.
Thank
you,
commissioner
thorson.
I
have
not
seen
anything
that
is
restricting
us
that
says
they
have
to
be
18
or
older,
but
what
I
do
want
to
say
is
that
there
are
other
conversations
around
youth
involvement
in
government
in
city
programs
that
there
may
be
something
else
that
can
come
that
could
help
with
that.
Instead
of
us
necessarily
appointing
another
non-voting
member.
D
Looking
at
what
the
city
may
be
working
on
through
our
the
racial
equity
action
teams,
in
particular,
the
community
development
action
team
has
just
some
different
things:
around
youth
and
engagement
and
involvement
with
youth,
but
also
just
through
the
racial
equity,
strategic
business
plan.
There's
information
and
goals
that
the
city
council
has.
So
there
may
be
an
opportunity
that
may
not
be
specific
to
us
having
to
step
out
as
the
hra
board
and
do
that.
D
D
Yes,
I
am
asking
if
we
would
like
so
if
we
would
like
to
update
the
bylaws
to
make
any
changes.
So
if
we
want
to
be
clear
that
there's
certain
experience,
the
hra
board
just
needs
to
have
represented
through
commissioners,
we
could
list
that
if
we
want
to
be
clear
that
an
initial
term
may
be
less
than
five
years,
just
an
initial
term,
we
could
list
that
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
specific.
It
wouldn't
we
didn't
have
to
say:
oh
this
young
adult
term
is
less
than
five
years.
D
C
And
chair
lewis,
I
guess,
is
a
follow-up
to
my
question.
I'd
have
personally
for
to
form
an
opinion.
I'd
have
to
give
some
more
thought
to
that.
I
thought
we
were
talking
here
about
when
it
comes
time
to
appoint
people
that
there's
a
process.
We
look
at
our
board
at
the
time
and
indicate
to
the
council
where
we
think
there
might
be
some
holes
and
therefore
we
would
recommend
people
based
upon
what
we
see
as
a
current
board
the
the
current
needs.
C
It
doesn't
seem
to
me
on
the
surface,
to
be
the
kind
of
depth
if
you
or
the
kind
of
thing
that
would
should
be
in
the
bylaws,
and
I
would
not
want
to
rule
out
and
in
fact
I
still
would
like
to
see
the
majority
of
the
board
again,
we're
not
that
large
might
be,
but
to
be
average
citizens
without
specific
expertise
too.
I
that's
what
the
whole
idea
of
of
these
boards,
I
believe,
are.
Are
you
know?
C
Average
citizens,
not
not
solely
made
up
of
people
with
specific
interests
or
specific
expertise,
is
always
good,
but
specific
interests.
So
again,
following
my
earlier
comments,
rather
than
have
it
in
the
bylaws,
I
would.
I
would
be
more
supportive
of
allowing
our
city
council,
who
is
elected
by
the
people,
to
with
our
recommendations
based
upon
what
we
view,
as
our
current
needs
on
the
board
and
and
relative
to.
What's
going
on.
D
C
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First
backing
up
just
to
the
comment
that
commissioner
thorson
made
about
non-voting
members.
I
think
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
careful
because
the
hra's
a
statutory
board
rather
than
a
creation
of
city
code.
We
I
mean
we
get
seven
members,
that's
what
we
get.
So
if
we
have
one
non-voting
member
to
me,
that
would
suggest
that
we
have
six
voting
members.
So
you
know
I'm
I'm
not
a
lawyer.
H
I
just
like
to
play
one
on
tv,
but
I
I
think
that
would
be
something
we
would
need
to
to
look
into
as
as
to
how
that
would
affect
things.
I
think
the
other,
the
other
piece
and
it's
actually
in
our
packet
here
too.
Just
you
know
with
regards
to
the
sustainability
commission.
This
is
what
city
code
says
about
the
sustainability
commission
shall
consist
of
11
members,
including
at
least
two
young
adults.
H
The
majority
of
members
shall
be
technical
experts
in
one
or
more
of
the
areas
of
sustainability,
and
one
seat
shall
be
reserved
for
city
council
members.
So
I
think
you
know
that's
city
code,
obviously
not
bylaws,
but
I
think
you
know
how
prescriptive,
how
exact
that
language
is,
would
kind
of
be
up
to
the
hra.
H
H
It
doesn't
need
to
be
anything
like
that,
but
I
I
think
what
I
would
say
is
this
is
council's
turnover,
hra's
turnover
if
there
is
something
that
you
know
folks
feel
like
this
is
really
important.
This
is
something
we
want
to
make
sure
is
part
of
the
discussion.
It
should
be
written
down.
I
I
think
communications
with
the
mayor
communications
with
the
council.
Those
are
all
well
and
good.
H
I
I
can
tell
you
from
experience.
Communication
will
only
get
you
so
far
when,
when
it
comes
time
to
vote
on
the
dais,
it's
it's
entirely
a
different
thing.
So
I
would
say
if
and
and
this
you
know,
that
can
be
a
big
if,
if
there
is
a
desire
to
be
intentional
about
the
kind
of
experience
that
is
represented
on
the
board,
I
would
just
encourage
that
it'd
be
written
down
somewhere
so
that
it's
at
least
part
of
the
conversation
chair,
lewis,.
C
F
C
That's
how
the
board
was
structured,
maybe
how
the
original,
but
I
I
think
it's
important
to
have
it's
not
like
you.
I
mean
nobody's
ever
it's
seldom
that
someone
is
appointed
that
has
zero
interest
or
zero
expertise
in
an
area.
People
typically
apply
for
boards
in
which
they
haven't
have
an
interest
or
desire.
C
Unless
they're
I
mean
there
are
some
that
are
trying
to
build
a
resume
and
whatnot,
but
typically
it's
people
who
really
have
a
strong
interest
in
it
and
that
could
include
members
of
the
general
public
that
don't
have
development
experience
that
don't
have
housing
experience,
but
but
our
policy
geeks
and
love
the
topic
and
the
same
could
apply
to.
I
know
lots
of
people
who
are
very
into
sustainability,
but
they
don't
necessarily
have
any
credentials
in
that
area,
but
they're
citizens
of
bloomington
and
so
forth.
C
So
I
just
I
don't
want
to
lose
sight
and
have
boards
that
are
simply
only
made
up.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
we're
talking
about
that.
I
like
the
fact
that
we
that
we
have
a
more
of
a
role
to
play
as
a
board
and
in
in
a
process
for
indicating
to
the
council
what
we
think
our
needs
are
at
the
time,
but
I
wouldn't
want
to
be
too
prescriptive
either.
G
We
are
talking
about
the
future
of
our
city,
so
I
don't
think
it's
in
my
opinion.
I
don't
think
it's
wrong
to
have
some
expectations
of
knowledge.
I'm
not
saying
it
has
to
be
formal.
What
that
kind
of
knowledge?
I'm
saying
that,
as
of
now,
I
believe
that
the
mayor
and
the
council
look
at
the
experience
that
is
put
in
that
application
and
they're
using
that,
but
that's
not
to
say
10
15
years
from
now,
that's
what
it's
gonna
be
or
even
five
years
from
now.
G
That's
what
it's
gonna
be,
and
I
do
think
some
knowledge
coming
into
this
with
you
know:
property
some
property
management,
experience
and
finance.
Experience
has
been
very
helpful
to
me
if
I
came
in
here
with
nothing
because
trust
me
there's
been
plenty
that
has
been
above
my
head,
I
am
not
going
to
lie.
G
I
think
you
have
to
have
some
knowledge
of
what
the
hra
does.
I
think,
if
you
just
bring
anybody,
it's
a
long
learning
curve.
I
I
like
that's
why
I
like
that
initial
term
I
started
with
two
years.
It
gave
me
a
really
good
foothold
in
here
to
say
yep.
I
really
like
that
or
I
could
have
been
like.
Oh
this
is
way
too
much
for
me,
because
I
we're
not
talking
about
just
any
board
here.
G
We
are
talking
about
a
a
board
that
makes
very
serious
decision
when
it
comes
to
the
city
when
it
comes
to
development
when
it
comes
to
housing
when
it
comes
to
the
needs
of
our
community-
and
I
think
it's
very
important
to
have
some
sort
of
background
in
that,
and
I'm
not
saying
you
have
to
have
you.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
your
job.
I'm
saying
you
just
need
to
have
some
basic
background
of
what
the
hra
does
and
a
good
understanding
of
that.
That's
all.
A
A
I
wouldn't
want
them
to
be
totally
specific,
but
I
think
you
could
put
in
your
expectations
of
what
you
would
want
a
board
member
to
have
just
like
if
you
were
hiring
somebody
for
a
job
that
would
still
allow
anybody
to
apply
it's
just
that
these
qualifications
would
get
your
foot
in
the
door.
I
want
to
say,
you
know,
wouldn't
exclude
you
if
you
didn't
have
them,
but
it
would
help
so.
D
That'll
help
guide
my
conversation
next
with
co-ed,
and
also
I
wanted
to
look
into
a
little
bit
more
just
the
other
commissions
and
how
they
have
posted
positions.
I
know
how
the
commissions
are
commissions,
I'm
saying
that
on
purpose,
the
city
charter
commissions
or
advisory
boards,
I'm
saying
that
on
purpose
are
represented,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
that
application
process
looked
like
or
if
that
was
in
something.
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
again
reiterate
thank
you
to
administrator
coleman
for
those
updates
of
how
the
hra
is
helping
people
within
our
community,
not
just
in
the
programs
that
we're
used
to
seeing
those
emails
actually
brought
tears
to
my
eyes
and
just
happiness.
It's
it's
really
nice
to
see
what
our
work
is
doing,
besides
just
in
the
programs
that
we're
just
used
to
seeing.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work
and
and
the
hra's
hard
work
in
this
and
making
sure
that
these
programs
are
successful.
D
Yes,
commissioner
huhim,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and,
as
you
know,
I
came
in.
We
work
along
the
whole
housing
continuum
from
homelessness
to
single-family
activities,
single-family
households,
but
I
do
want
to
highlight
that
this
board
did
pass
a
strategic
plan
and
did
in
that
strategic
plan.
Highlight
involvement
legislatively
did
highlight
collaboration
not
only
internally
with
other
divisions
and
departments,
but
also
externally
in
the
community,
and
I
just
want
to
say
all
that
is
happening,
and
so
I
just
want
to
bring
that
back.
D
G
And
just
to
add,
madam
chair,
that
I
appreciated
seeing
local
businesses
that
stepped
up
like
that
was
huge
to
see
it
made
me
think.
I
definitely
want
to
do
business
with
them.
So
it's
good
to
see
businesses
within
our
community
stepping
in
to
help
our
community,
so
that
was
really
good
to
highlight
that
as
well.
So
thank
you.