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From YouTube: January 19, 2021 HRA Commission Special Meeting
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B
Okay,
I
will
call
the
tuesday
january
19th
2021
housing
and
redevelopment
authority
meeting
to
order
myra.
Did
you
want
to
do
the
roll
call.
A
Lewis,
here
jack
baloga,
president
vicki
hughes
here
mark
thorson,
I
hear
john
olson
well.
Currently
we
have
two
members
here:
yeah
someone
just
beeped
in.
B
Okay,
well,
it
looks
like
this
evening
we're
starting
out
with
organizational
beating
organizational
business,
although
do
you
want
me
to,
I
can
have
the
agenda
approved,
which
will
take
a
little
time
so.
B
Thank
you
all
right,
commissioner,
who
came
moved
to
approve
the
agenda.
Second
from
commissioner
beloga.
Can
I
have
a
roll
call
vote.
B
A
A
And
commissioner
thorson
to
approve
the
meeting
agenda.
B
E
Commissioner,
thor's
fear
we're
voting
on
the
to
approve
the
agenda.
Yes,
we
are
so
moved.
E
Oh,
I,
yes,
that
is
oh
yeah,
that's
right
so
moved
is
not
wording.
E
E
My
apologies
for
being
late
today,
moving
on
item
to
organizational
business,
we
have
item
2.1
draft
strategic
plan.
We
have
the
staff
information,
please.
F
Thank
you
good
evening,
jerry
thorpeson
members
of
the
commission,
erica
coleman,
hra
administrator.
So
tonight
we
have
a
draft
strategic
plan
and
a
facilitator
by
the
name
of
margaret
perez
that
we'll
be
able
to
take
it
from
here.
G
Thank
you
thanks
for
having
me
my
name
is
margaret
erika
noted.
I
work
for
the
public
health
department,
but
I'm
really
just
here
tonight
in
in
a
role
as
a
facilitator
and
part
of
an
internal
facilitation
team
that
gets
kind
of
lent
out
to
different
initiatives
in
the
city.
So
thanks
for
having
me
here
tonight
assume
that
I
know
nothing,
and
I
am
by
no
means
a
housing
expert,
I'm
just
here
to
help
kind
of
guide,
an
internal
process
around
strategic
planning.
G
So
again,
thanks
for
having
me
here,
because
I
don't
really
know
any
of
you,
I
wanted
to
just
stop
by
doing
some
pros.
I'm
gonna
my
screen
and
give
me
just
a
second
to
do
that,
and
this
way
we're
all
kind
of
looking
at
the
same
content.
G
All
right,
so,
hopefully
you
can
now
see
my
powerpoint
slide
here.
I'm
going
to
be
taking
some
notes
as
we
go
along
and
let
me
get
settled
more
need
my
notes
here
we
go.
H
G
If
we
could
just
I'm
going
to
go
through
and
call
on
folks
on,
as
in
the
order
that
you're
appearing
on
my
screen
and
then
just
take
yourself
off
mute
to
introduce
yourself
just
give
me,
you
know
your
name
number
of
years
on
the
commission
and
and
why
don't
you
share
with
me?
I
have
to
go
to
my
next
fun
slide
here.
G
A
hat
that
you
wear
that
others
may
not
know
about
or
immediately
associate
with
you
so
something
we
might
not
know
about
you.
I
of
course
don't
know
anything
about
you,
and
maybe
your
fellow
commissioners
know
know
you
better,
but
so
I'll
kind
of
kick
things
off.
My
name
is
margaret.
I
have
zero
years
on
the
commission,
and
a
hat
that
I
wear
that
others
may
not
know
about
is
that
I
coordinate
the
garden
at
my
son's
elementary
school.
G
A
We
changed
all
my
settings,
so
I
have
to
there.
We
go
there's
my
video
there
we
are,
I
have
been
with
the
hra,
I'm
myra
wickless.
I've
been
with
the
hra
for
two
and
a
half
years
with
the
city
for
three
and
a
half
years.
I
worked
in
formerly
known
as
co-ed
or
formerly
known
as
human
services.
Now
is
co-ed
department
and
my
other
hat
I
wear
in
real
life
is.
G
Oh
hey,
we
should
hang
out.
Yes,
we
did
I'm
by
no
means
a
master
gardener,
but
cheryl
do
you
want
to
go
next.
E
Show
a
leaf
at
the
end
of
this
meeting
and.
A
B
Cool
place
and
it's
hard
to
get
to
okay,
let's
see
well,
I'm
in
my
actually
my
second
term
as
an
hra
commissioner,
and
I
am
currently
serving
as
vice
chair,
a
hat
that
I
wear
on
the
outside-
that
I
think
probably
most
of
the
commissioners
are
aware
of,
but
I
was
as
I
worked
for,
or
was
a
member
of
americorps
for
three
years
as
a
minnesota
reading
tutor
and
this
last
year,
because
I
was
at
the
end
of
the
time
I
could
serve
with
americorps
minnesota
reading
corps
hired
me-
and
I
am
again
a
I'm-
now
considered
an
elementary
literacy
tutor
and
I
work
at
westwood
elementary
and
so
far
this
year
I've
been
totally
distance.
B
Learning
school
just
went
back
full
time
five
days
a
week
starting
today,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
going
back,
probably
until
the
end
of
february,
because
I
would
rather
get
my
vaccination
first,
but
I
am
still
working
with
13
kids
every
day
and
I
guess
that's
the
hat.
I've
worn
for
a
while.
So.
E
Sure
mark
thorson,
chair
of
the
commission,
I
I've
been
on
quite
a
long
time,
I'm
not
quite
sure
the
number
of
years
I
started
off
being
involved
in
the
city
in
my
20s
and
have
at
some
point
or
another
I
think
for
almost
every
year
of
since
then,
and
I'm
nowhere
close
to
my
mid-20s,
now
been
on
some
kind
of
a
commission
or
some
kind
of
involvement.
E
I
love.
I
love
the
city
and
I
love
being
involved
in
it
and
I
I
love
making
trying
to
make
a
difference.
It's
really
hard
for
me
right
now
to
think
of
a
hat.
I
in
my
spare
time
they
do
other
than
one
or
more
other
roles
in
the
city,
but
I
would
say
a
lot
of
people
know
me
around
the
city
from
not
only
my
involvement
in
the
in
the
city
government.
E
So
when
I
owned
my
own
business
and
was
involved
in
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
and
some
related
boards-
and
I
now
work
in
healthcare,
and
so
that's
been
a
big
change
for
me.
No
I'm
not
a
doctor.
E
I
didn't
change
careers.
I
didn't
go
back
to
school.
It's
an
administrative
position,
but
it's
really
a
big
change
and
I
really
enjoy
it
and
I
enjoy
the
break
from
being
self-employed
and
a
benefit
that
I
have
received
from
that
is.
As
of
saturday,
I
had
my
second
covet
19
vaccination
because
I
do
have
patient
contact
in
my
role
and
I
do
work
in
a
clinic
where
sick
people
come
and
go
so
a
children's
hospital.
So
I'm
I'm
very
pleased
with
that.
E
I
had
minimal
symptoms
and
from
that,
and
so
that
would
be
my
hat
number
two.
G
Thank
you,
michael,
do
you
want
to
go.
I
Next
sure,
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me,
I'm
like
I'm
in
the
planning
division
and
as
of
19
days
ago,
I'm
now
part-time
in
the
hra,
so
I'll
be
seeing
a
lot
more
of
you.
Besides
being
a
planner,
one
role
is
being
a
father.
I
You
might
be
able
to
see
some
toys
back
here,
so
you
might
hear
my
kids
streaming
in
the
background
as
they
get
ready
for
bedtime,
but
one
hat
I
play
is
a
citizen
stream
monitor
right
once
a
week
during
the
summer
I
go
and
do
stream
quality
testing
at
purgatory,
creek
down
the
road
here
and
take
a
reading
and
submit
it
to
the
mpca
at
the
end
of
the
season.
So
that's
another
role
I
do
in
my
life.
C
Thank
you,
vicky
hukim.
I
have
been
on
the
commission
for
a
year.
I
am
secretary
of
the
commission
and
I
guess
for
me
the
hat
that
I
wear
that
people
probably
don't
know
is
that
I
am
actually
a
bodybuilder.
So
that's
what
I
like
to
do
outside
of
work
and
home
life
is
hit
the
gym
and
compete.
So
it's
something
very
deep
in
my
heart,
because
I
actually
am
a
heart
patient
as
well.
So
but
that's
kind
of
that's
my
extra
hat.
So
thank
you.
Cool
erica.
F
Hello,
hello,
I'm
erica
coleman.
I
have
been
with
the
hra
two
months
and
a
hat.
I
think
I
wear
quite
a
few
hats,
but
one
that
people
probably
aren't
aware
of
I'm
a
master
barber
actually
yeah.
I
actually
don't
really
cut
hair
anymore,
but
I
also
don't
believe
in
letting
a
license
go
that
you
have
worked
and
paid
for
so
yeah.
That's
a
hat.
G
I
could
really
use
some
advice.
I
have
started
cutting
my
eight-year-old's
hair
in
the
pandemic,
so
we'll
have
to
chat
later.
Let's
see
brian
hartman.
J
Good
evening,
excuse
me:
everybody,
ryan,
hartman,
hra
program
manager
been
on
staff
here
for
over
20
years,
so
I've
enjoyed
it
very
very
much.
So
it's
been
a
struggle
here.
I
know
a
lot
of
you
very
well
that
what
hats
you
may
not
know
about
me,
but
erica
may
not
know
this
because
she's
new,
I'm
a
big
fan
of
international
travel
and
I'm
looking
very
much
forward
to
getting
back
to
that
and
hopefully
sometime
this
year,
so
I
have
seven
weeks
of
vacation
saved
erica,
so
be
prepared.
Thank.
H
Great,
so
I
was
looking
at
the
actual
hats
on
the
screen
trying
to
figure
out
which
one
looked
most
like
a
gardening
hat
or
a
yoga
hat.
So
I
I
do
have
an
extensive
vegetable
garden
and
produce
so
much
produce
that
I
bring
it
to
my
local
food
shelf
in
the
summer,
which
has
been
a
really
fun
thing
to
do
and
involve
some
neighborhood
kids,
which
is
tough
to
do
because
they
don't
care
about
working
for
money.
H
I
had
a
couple
that
would
like
work
for
towards
the
until
they
got
a
new
set
of
air
pods
or
something.
But
then
once
that
was
done,
they
were
gone.
So
motivation
margaret
would
be
something
I'd
like
to
hear
from
you.
But
gardening
is
is
my
thing
in
the
summer
and
there's
an
app
mark
asking
it's
called
see
and
if
you
download
the
speak
app,
you
can
point
it
at
any
plant
or
insect
or
bird.
E
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
advice.
I
actually
have
a
lot
of
things
in
my
yard,
a
fairly
large,
perennial
garden,
which
wasn't
originally
my
thing,
and
so
there's
always
things
I'm
trying
to
identify
and
decide
what
I
need
to
do
to
maintain
them.
So
I
will.
I
will
download
that
cool.
D
D
I've
enjoyed
the
opportunity
and
working
with
all
the
other
members,
something
that
you
might
not
know.
I'm
an
avid
tennis
player
and
I
started
playing
tennis
well
past.
My
prime,
I
think
by
the
official
standards
that
I
could
have
played
seniors
tennis
when
I
first
started,
but
I
have
made
eight
trips
to
the
national
championships.
D
Around
the
country
and
well,
I
have
not
been
on
a
team
that
has
achieved
the
first
place.
I
have
a
second
a
couple
thirds
and
a
lot
of
thank
you
for
showing
up
awards.
So
there
you
go
thanks.
D
By
by
the
way
I
spoke
to
john
just
a
minute
or
two
ago,
he
did
not
have
tonight
on
his
calendar
he's
out
of
his
house,
but
he
is
going
home
to
log
in
and
join
us,
and
I
would
expect
he
will
be
there
in
about
10
minutes.
So
just
a
heads
up.
G
K
K
So
that's
why
I'm
part
of
this
tonight
and
something
that
gosh
probably
brian,
knows,
but
I'm
not
sure
about
any
of
the
rest
of
you.
Even
those
of
you
that
are
at
the
city.
I
volunteer
for
the
nation's
largest
youth
circus,
which
is
here
in
saint
paul,
circus
juventus
and
my
main
volunteer
role
is
in
fundraising
and
last
year
we
had
our
best
gala.
K
G
Very
cool
what
a
powerful
group
of
people
and
multi
multi-talented
and
multi-faceted
sounds
like
we
could
do
some
interesting
things
together
in
our
spare
time.
That
is
all
the
people
that
I
have
on
my
list.
Unless
I
missed
anyone.
I
heard
that
somebody
named
john
is
joining
us
so
I'll
have
him
maybe
give
a
brief
intro
when
he
pops
in,
but
anyone
else
that
hasn't
been
called
on
I'll
just
pause
for
a
couple
seconds.
G
Okay,
just
a
few
guidelines
as
we
get
started,
I
you
know,
I
think
you
guys
are
all
old
old
champs
by
this
point
on
these
virtual
meetings,
but
of
course,
put
your
yourself
on
mute
when
you're,
not
speaking,
I
noticed
that
most
of
you,
at
least
when
you
were
speaking
put
your
video
on.
I
certainly
appreciate
seeing
your
faces.
I
understand
if
you
need
to
turn
cameras
off
for
whatever
reason.
G
At
any
point,
including
you
know,
I
heard
connection
issues
totally
fine,
but
if
it's
an
option
for
you
and
you're
feeling
camera
ready,
please
have
your
your
camera
on
to
help
keep
the
meeting
going
feel
free
to
use
the
chat
feature.
You're
also
welcome
to
take
yourself
off
mute
when
I
ask
for
input
or
as
you
have
questions
and
then
just
speak,
your
question,
but
the
chat
feature
is
also
very
helpful
and
with
that
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
brief
note
and
just
check
in
to
see.
G
If
mike,
could
you
be
on
monitoring
the
chat
so
that
I
don't
need
to
have
that
window
up.
G
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
apologize
for
the
little
gray
boxes
all
over.
I
just
have
to.
G
I
have
a
couple
of
panels
up
here
and
I
can't
make
the
gray
boxes
go
away
on
your
end,
but
so
with
the
idea
of
the
virtual
format,
just
kind
of
a
reminder
to
be
patient
and
comfortable
with
pauses
I'll
intentionally
pause,
sometimes
and
we'll
have
these
kind
of
weird
ten
second
pauses,
but
that's
just
to
give
people
time
to
take
themselves
off
mute
and
then
speak
and-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
allow
for
that
time.
So
pauses
are
okay.
G
Take
your
own
stretch,
breaks
and
bio
breaks
as
we
go
along.
I
think
we're
gonna
be
doing
this
session
for
about
an
hour
and
45
minutes
on
my
end
sounds
like
you
guys
have
an
even
longer
meeting.
That's
just
my
guideline
for
for
my
section,
I'm
not
going
to
take
any
like
intentional
group
breaks.
G
So
just
take
your
own
break
when
you
need
it
leave
your
title
at
the
door
tonight,
we're
gonna
have
staff
and
commissioners
participating
on
equal
footing
and
that's
regardless
of
your
ranking,
you
know
either
on
the
commission
or
as
part
of
the
staff.
G
So
that
means
that
you
know
just
because
council
member
baloga
says
something
it
doesn't
mean
that
just
because
he's
on
council
that
that
counts
more
than
what
you
know,
brian
hartman,
might
say,
because
he's
on
staff
so
tonight
we're
gonna,
try
and
be
on
equal
footing
as
we
give
our
ideas
and
not
weigh
ideas
differently,
just
based
on
our
position
within
the
city
and
then
with
that
just
listen
to
understand,
you
know
be
respectful,
try
and
stay
engaged.
G
So
if
you're
more
introverted,
you
know
kind
of
push
yourself
to
to
to
participate,
maybe
more
than
you
might
feel
comfortable
with
and
then
for
us
extroverts
try
and
take
a
step
back
so
just
be
aware
of
how
much
you're
speaking
make
sure
that,
when
we
are
having
those
pauses
that
you're
you're,
maybe
giving
yourself
an
an
extra
pause
to
allow
others
who
might
be
quieter
to
have
a
chance
to
to
speak
up,
and
that
is
all
I've
got
for
you
before
we
kind
of
jump
into
the
main
content
here.
G
The
first
thing
I'm
going
to
have
you
do
is
just
take
a
moment
to
reflect
on
the
statement.
This
is
the
community
vision,
that's
in
our
2040
comp
plan
that
was
recently
updated.
G
So
just
take
a
moment
silently
to
to
read
over
this
and
kind
of
chew.
On
on
this
vision,.
G
All
right
so
to
get
us
warmed
up
here.
I
just
want
we're
going
to
do
a
quick
round
robin
and
just
tell
me
the
one
word
when
you're
reading
through
that
that
sticks
out
to
you
or
that
caught
your
eye
reading
it.
A
A
K
A
G
K
G
F
G
G
H
G
And
again
we
can
be
it's
okay,
you
can.
This
can
be
more
than
a
one-word
answer.
K
G
Come
up
so
I
know
it
might.
I
I
G
I
Just
to
jump
in
real
quick,
sherry
said
community
in
which
erica
had
as
well.
The
community
should
be
on
there.
I.
G
B
This
is
cheryl.
I
I
try
to
bring
that
the
idea
of
fairness.
E
I
would
add
in
innovation,
and
we
have
some
role
as
being
sometimes
taking
some
risks,
not
always
what's
popular,
not
always.
E
Certainly,
we
take
risks
when
we
choose
to
invest
in
a
property
for
future
development,
not
knowing
what
what
the
economy
might
bring
later,
but
it's
our
role
to
be
innovative
and,
in
some
cases,
take
some
calculus
calculated
risks
in
order
to
achieve
redevelopment
in
a
fully
developed.
G
G
And
so
sorry,
I
I
heard
some
additional
values
that
you
shared,
that
sherry
had
noted
economic
impact,
community
voice
and
equity.
So
I'm
going
to
add.
G
G
I
guess
that's
not
necessarily
what
that
means.
I
just
I
have
this
what
it
means
as
a
definition
section
in
case
we
wanted
any
kind
of
further
clarification
about
what
something
means.
I
was
curious
about
the
word,
fairness
and
and
what
that
means
in
the
context
of
housing.
B
I
think
when
I
say
this
is
cheryl
when
I
say
fairness
again,
I
think
it
would.
It
would
be
tied
to
equity
and
and
providing
affordable
housing
there
again.
That's
that's
where
I
see
fairness
is
that
of
providing
affordable
housing,
where
people
of
all
different
economic
standings
can
still
find
a
home
in.
G
Bloomington
sherry
had
put-
and
I
feel
like
this
kind
of
builds
off
of
what
you're
saying-
is
that
the
value
would
be
that
everyone
has
a
home.
The
sense
that
everybody
can.
G
Yes,
are
there
other
things,
other
values
that
are
listed
up
there,
that
that
that
other
people
are
curious
about
in
terms
of
what
is
meant
by
it
or
or
where
there
might
be
multiple
definitions
of
it?
That
we
want
to
get
more
clarity.
I
G
F
Yeah,
sorry,
and
then
I
was
gonna,
ask
for
clarity
around
empathy,
so
foster
to
me
is,
is
is
being
driven
or
blazing
the
trail,
so
foster
to
me
aligns
with
what
claire
thorson
said
of
of
innovation
and
and
risk
taking
to
me
fostering
is,
like
you
know,
you're
the
first
you're
the
front
and
you're
driving
all
of
it.
That's
how
I
see
foster.
G
J
Sure
this
is
brian.
I
put
that
out
there
and
as
it
relates
to
the
customers,
we
serve
whether
it's
on
our
run
assistance
programs
or
our
loan
programs.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
have
empathy
and
understanding
of
their
situation
and
respect
the
journey
of
that
they
have
gone
on
whether
it
was
by
choice
or
not
and
meet
them
where
they're
at
where
they
are
and
give
them
that.
B
G
G
G
F
Absolutely
so
I'll
say
that
the
values
that
I
saw
as
someone
that's
new
was
just
the
work
that
I
see
being
done
by
staff
as
well
as
what
the
strategic
priorities
are
with
the
city
of
bloomington,
and
so
the
first
was
increased
opportunity,
and
so
the
thinking
behind
that
is,
access
to
choice
of
housing
and
stability
options,
whether
that's
rental
and
or
ownership,
strengthen
ratio
equity.
That
is
the
thought
around
that
is
disrupt
systemic
racism
in
housing
through
intentional
investment
and
action
preserve
livability.
F
The
thought
around
that
is
support
for
revitalization
rehabilitation
and
preservation,
promote
sustainability,
which
I
had
thought
around,
foster
and
support
energy,
efficient,
accessible
and
healthy
homes,
and
then
the
last
one
was
prioritize
resources,
and
so
that
was
intentional
investment
along
a
housing
continuum
and
that
continuum
goes
from
being
unhoused
to
aging
in
place,
and
so
everything
in
between
that,
whether
that
is
rental
assistance,
renter
down
payment
assistance,
home
ownership,
senior
living.
Just
everything
on
the
housing
continuum
was
the
thought
around.
Those.
G
Great
thank
you.
Do
people
have
questions
about
any
of
those
values
or
or
comments
reflections.
L
This
is
john
olsen.
Are
you
hearing
me.
L
Hi,
I
was
not
able
for
some
reason
to
go
in
on
my
my
ipad,
so
I'm
on
phone,
and
so
I
think
star
six
is
a
toggle
for
me,
going
mutant
and
not
mute
so.
G
Correct
and
so
I'll
try
and
be
have
a
little
bit
more
audio
description,
then,
for
you
so
that
you're
able
to
follow
along
because
I'm
hearing
your
you
don't
have
a
screen
in
front
of
you
correct
well,.
L
G
I
G
Do
should
we
do
any
of
these?
Can
any
of
these
be
combined?
There's
no
pressure
to
combine,
but
do
any
of
these
I'm
seeing
the
words
like
the
choice
and
the
welcome
and
engaged
those
feel
like
less
fully
developed
values.
Do
they
belong
anywhere
within
either
in
the
description
section
or
or
in
these
other
kind
of
more
prominent
value
categories
that
have.
F
Emerged,
I
would
say,
welcome
and
engaged
needs
to
be
added
and
more
prominent.
It
needs
to
be
prominent
period,
but
I
I
wonder
if,
if
it's
increase
opportunity,
so
how
I'm
trying
to
say
this
is
maybe
increase.
Opportunity
is
not
the
value
welcoming
and
engaging.
Is
the
value
and
then
increasing
opportunity
becomes
a
part
of
the
description,
but
I
don't
know.
G
So
welcoming
and
engaging
for
all
residents
or
for
people
living
of
hull
housing
type
something
kind
of
to
that
capturing
both
of
those
things.
B
K
I
think
this
is
tracy.
I
was
thinking
something
similar
along
that
line
that
that
engage
definitely
was
missing
in
that
last
set
that
erica
introduced
and
what
you've
brought
forward
here.
The
way
you
suggest
combining
them
by
changing
the
value
works
for
for
me,.
G
Let's
try
to
consolidate
my
rows.
Other
reactions,
thoughts
either
about
that
suggestion
or
other
suggestions.
I
noted
I
don't
remember
now
who
said
it
in
the
chat,
because
my
chat
went
away,
but
empathy
and
combat
compassion
being
combined.
C
I
just
wanted
to
say
when
thinking
of
that
welcoming
and
engaging
going
back
to
that,
one
that
it
doesn't
just
need
to
be
across
the
housing
and
that
I
think
it
needs.
We
need
to
be
welcoming
and
engaging
as
a
commission
in
general,
like
I
feel
like
that.
That
needs
to
be
part
of
our.
G
That's
interesting
because
that
almost
then
the
foster
innovation
or
sorry
the
welcoming
and
engaging
actually
when
you
put
it
like
that,
seems
like
it
kind
of
goes
well
with
community
voice
listening
to
our
community
residents
and
their
needs.
G
Other
other
reactions,
thoughts
or
suggestions
for
combining
or
or
re-organizing
some
of
these
values.
I
Sherry
had
suggested
in
the
chat
that
choice
becomes
part
of
engaging
that
might
have
been
before.
We
just
got
another
discussion
about
community
boys,
but
it
is
oh,
yes,.
G
G
Right
there's
so
this
word
choice
comes
up
in
the
in
the
description
of
welcoming
and
engaging
what
do
others
think
about
that.
L
F
So
I
was
gonna,
say:
equity
fairness,
inclusivity,
choice
in
my
opinion,
and
you
know
anyone
can
chime
in
replaces
prioritize
resources,
because
prioritize
resources
is
an
is
an
action
and
maybe
not
a
value.
G
G
Do
you
mind
if
I
remove
your
description
then,
with
with
what
is
like,
can
can
this
part
yeah.
F
I
don't
work
at
all.
I
don't
I'm
not
married
jack
did
put
promote
home.
Ownership
should
be
in
here.
G
Great,
should
that
be
a
value,
or
does
that
get
incorporated
into
a
description
somewhere,
jack.
D
G
K
G
And
and
I'm
okay,
it
can
be
in
multiple
places.
We
can
also,
you
know,
put
it
in
one
place,
not
the
other
up
to
you.
F
G
Kind
of
just
flowing
along
here
and
then
the
only
other
thing
I'd
like
to
I
kind
of
want
to
round
out
this
section,
because
this
is
a
awesome
discussion.
But
we've
got
more
to
move
on
to
and
I'm
kind
of
aware
of
my
time.
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
a
description
of
economic
impact
if
that's
going
to
remain
as
a
value
kind
of
what
that
looks
like
or
what
it
means
to
the
group.
E
I
believe
that
economic
impact
has
to
do
with
investing
in
projects,
and
I'm
really
talking
about
the
redevelopment
side
here
more
than
the
housing
side,
because
I
think
the
housing
side
is
a
little
bit
different
animal.
But
when
it
comes
to
our
projects
like
pen
and
american
and
so
forth,
we
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
invest
in
a
project
that
is
simply
helping
that
one
project
that
one
developer,
that
one
landowner
but
and
and
and
it
you
know,
stay
as
a
stand-alone.
You
know
impact.
E
I
I
see
economic
impact
as
when
we
begin
to
create
change
in
an
area
in
a
neighborhood
that
attracts
further
investment.
That
doesn't
necessarily
need
subsidy
and
that's
that's
where
I
think
we
can
have
the
biggest
economic
impact
is
beginning
to
create
forward
motion
where
private
investment
will
come
to
a
neighborhood
that
previously.
E
E
G
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
go
through
here
and
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
now
what
the
hra
is
currently
doing,
and
this
may
feel
kind
of
repetitive.
You
actually
have
this
list.
You
were
sent
this
in
your
packet
in
advance,
so
this
is
just
a
different
visual
representation
of
the
list
that
you
already
were
sent.
G
So
this
is
again
a
list
that
erica
and
the
other
hra
staff
put
together
of
all
the
things
that
the
hra
is
currently
doing,
and
I
I
bet
many
of
you
have
participated
in
one
of
these
consensus
workshops
and
we're
kind
of
going
to
do
an
abbreviated
one
for
those
of
you
that
haven't
what
we're
going
to
look
to
do
is
group
some
things
together
in
in
any
way
that
emerges.
That
seems
to
make
sense
for
the
group,
so
we
we
start
doing
that
by
by
looking
at.
G
Are
there
pairs
of
things
or
or
small
groupings
of
things
that
seem
to
go
together,
and
I
guess
in
the
interest
of
time
and
because
I
think
you
have
some
familiarity
with
these
programs
and
you've
got
the
list
or
you
should
have
the
list
and
have
reviewed
it
beforehand.
G
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
every
single
one
of
these
beforehand.
I
think
we're
just
going
to
start
grouping
if,
if
that's
okay,
so
sorry
to
be
clear
about
my
instruction
right
now,
we're
looking
at
the
the
visual
representation
of
hra's,
current
programs
and
and
policies
and
we're
looking
for
pairs
things
that
seem
to
go
together.
I
Well,
I'll
jump
in
and
kind
of
give
an
example,
home
energy
squad,
enhancements
kind
of
goes
pretty
well
with
single-family,
home
rehab
loans
and.
J
F
E
Oh
sorry,
I
would
probably
and
there's
probably
another
one
here
too
habitat
for
humanity
which
is
kind
of
center
lower
area
combined
with
on
the
left
side,
western
hennepin,
affordable
land
trust.
K
This
is
tracy,
I
see
a
couple
that
say
trust
fund
and
I'm
not
I'm
quite
honestly,
not
sure
the
difference
between
the
two
one
is
the
one
you
just
moved
that
says:
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
and
then
off
to
the
right
in
green
towards
the
top,
is
noaa
trust
fund
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
noaa
trust
fund
is.
Unless
that's
supposed
to
be
the
opportunity,
housing
trust
fund.
H
Tracy
those
are
two
different
terms
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
financing
tools
that
we
could
put
in
one
category
right
now.
A
lot
of
them
are
on
the
left
side
of
the
spreed,
margaret
the
yellow
tax
abatement,
the
orange
housing
revenue,
bonds,
green
opportunity,
housing
ordinance,
offers
those
tools
and
incentives.
H
I
see
tiff
hiding
down
there,
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
46
incentives
which
is
yellow
and
then
kind
of
along
the
bottom.
There's
the
lavender
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits,
the
lavender
livable
communities
program,
the
green
above
noaa
trust
fund.
G
This
is
growing
into
a
pretty
big
category.
Those
are
all
so
those
are
all
forms
of
financing.
H
G
H
Great
now,
some
of
them
are
more
heavily
weighted
to
multi-family
equipment
than
others,
but
not
necessarily
we
have
the
you
know.
We
have
column,
you
know,
there's
some
crossover
with
some
of
those
programs,
but
not
all.
Okay,.
G
So
so
far,
we've
got
this
grouping
here
around
habitat
and
and
walt
I'll
call
it,
and
then
we've
got
this
emerging
kind
of
rehabilitation
category
and
an
emerging
financing
category
again
these
are
just
working
titles.
We
can
still
take
things
out
of
those
and
re
regroup
them
in
other
ways,
but
those
are
just
kind
of
working
titles.
For
now.
J
Margaret
the
neighborhood
loan
program
could
go
into
rehab,
okay,
it's
the
same,
but
a
little
different
from
the
other
rehab
program.
J
J
J
Curb
appeal
loan
program
also
goes
under
rehab.
That
was
a
neighborhood
specific
rehab
program
that
we
did
for
a
while.
J
Then
I've
kind
of
seen
a
whole
kind
of
like
policies
like
the
90-day
tenant
protection,
ordinance,
the
fair
housing
policy
opportunity,
housing
orders,
those
are
all
kind
of
policies
or
ordinances.
J
Now,
they're
a
little
bit
distinct,
I
mean
98
protections
provide
time
for
people
when
a
noaa
property
is
purchased
before
they
can
raise
the
rent
or
do
re-screening
or
make
them
move
fair
housing
policies.
You
know:
affirmation
of
non-discrimination,
laws
in
housing
and
the
opportunity
housing.
This
might
be
the
odd
duck
I
mean
this.
Is
you
know
this
is
about
the
creation,
preservation
of
housing
through
incentives
and
financing
tools
that
sort
of
thing
so
that
might
go
under
financing.
E
And
I
I
think
the
tenant
protection
and
the
fair
housing
policy
and
some
others
fall
under
that
sort
of
fairness
area
that
we've
touched
on
earlier.
Fairness
and
equity.
G
A
Lighted
actually
is
the
condition
of
the
property
before
it
becomes
probably
a
home
ownership.
So
I
would
think
that
it
would
go
underneath
home
ownership
because,
generally
speaking,
we
sell
those
properties
either
to
walt
or
the
habitat
after
we've
demoed
them.
So.
D
I
G
Couldn't
tell
who
they
were
so,
let's
start.
E
I
I
actually
see
blighted
properties
more
broadly,
I
think
a
lot
of
our
commercial
redevelopment,
some
of
the
really
exciting
projects
we've
had
over
time
have
come
about
because
of
segments
of
blighted
properties
that
helps
us,
create
larger
developments
and
redevelopments
with
with
both
affordable
housing
and
new
retail
and
new
amenities
that
really
help
create
that
excitement
around
change
in
bloomington.
So
I
think,
blighted
properties,
I'm
not
quite
sure
where
it
goes,
but
but
I
believe
it's
much
more
than
than
you
know
the
housing
and
the
lots.
E
It's
it's,
and
in
fact
it's
it
blighted
properties
are
they're
almost
like
a
realize
why
it's
on
that
list,
but
it's
almost
like
that's
a
that's.
The
problem.
We're
trying
to
solve
is
blighted
properties.
G
And
it
there
is,
there's
no
rule
against
duplicating
something
and
putting
it
across
various
categories.
So
that's
another
option
for
us,
although
I'm
I'm
only
hearing
it
clearly
being
called
out
under
home
ownership
and
then
kind
of
a
yet
to
be
created,
category
kind
of
more
focused
on
redevelopment
are
there
other
things
on
the
screen
that
kind
of
get
at
that
sense
of
redevelopment
mark.
E
Those
are
the
ones
more
obvious.
I
have
been
sitting
here
thinking
and
you
know
that
that
there's
it
appears
there
should
be
more.
I
mean
this
is
a.
This
is
certainly
a
extensive
and
comprehensive
list
of
of
you
know
the
programs
the
hra
has
and
yet
coming
right
down
to
it,
whether
it's
housing
or
mixed
use
or
whatever
it's
really
redevelopment,
is
how
we
achieve
not
all
but
much
of
what
we're
doing
on
a
larger
scale
in
you
know
creating
new
housing.
E
So
I'm
struggling
a
little
bit
with
that
and
trying
to
thinking
as
we
go.
G
So,
for
now
mark
based
on
your
feedback,
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
split
off
blighted
properties
and
put
it
kind
of
in
its
own
category
here,
that's
unnamed,
because
in
a
little
bit
we
are
also
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
not
quite
yet
so
don't
go
there
quite
yet,
but
we're
going
to
be
able
to
name
some
missing
programs,
policies
or
categories,
and
so
just
know
that
that
there
will
be
a
chance
to
add
to
it
we're
not
just
talking
about
what
is
but
we'll
we
will
be
talking
about.
G
What's
missing,
too,
I
saw
a
comment
pop
up
from
sherry,
and
can
somebody
read
that
off
for
me.
I
G
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
these
other
we've
got
the
housing
and
environmental
loan
program,
the
housing
choice,
vouchers,
home
improvement,
fair
non-profit
administration,
support
project-based
voucher
program
and
the
home
program
for
senior
community
services.
Do
those
create
a
new
category
in
any
way,
or
do
they
get
added
to
any
existing
categories?.
E
J
I
was
just
going
to
say
you
can
project-based
vouchers
and
the
housing
vouchers
together,
they're
both
different
types
of
rent
assistance
programs,
essentially
the
same
but
but
one
tied
to
the
unit
one's
tied
to
the
tenant.
So
that
is
you
know,
maybe
a
category
of
its
of
its
of
its
own.
The
home
program
for
from
senior
community
services
helps
elderly
people
stay
in
their
homes
by
doing
a
variety
of
things
like
chore
services
and
painting
those
sorts
of
things.
J
J
G
Okay,
others
want
to
weigh
in
about
where
these,
where
these
orphans
go
and
again,
with
the
understanding
that
we
don't
have
to
feel
the
pressure
to
categorize
every
single
thing.
There
might
just
be
some
orphans
at
the
end
and
that's
okay.
C
I
feel
like
for
a
home
program.
A
senior
program
is
kind
of
both
the
fairness
and
equity
and
homeownership,
because
it
it
is
an
equity
based
for
our
senior
community,
but
it's
also
keeping
allowing
them
probably
to
stay
in
their
homes.
So
I
kind
of
feel
like
it
fits
in
the
middle
of
both
of
those
personally.
F
So
nonprofit
administration
support
is
something
we
provide,
but
there
are
organizations,
brian
or
sherry,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
typically
work
more
with
the
renter
population.
J
Right,
we
support
those
organizations
that
are
active
within
our
city,
even
though
they
may
not
be
located
here
like
we
rely
upon
them
to
provide
information
for
to
to
renters
about
vacancies
and
housing
opportunities
and
also
bridging
connects
families
that
we
may
or
may
not
be
working
with
on
our
other
programs
who
need
a
furniture
household.
J
An
oasis,
of
course,
is
it
works
locally
with
a
with
the
homeless
youth
population,
and
then
veep,
of
course,
does
a
variety
of
things,
but
most
most
importantly,
food
support,
but
also,
most
recently,
the
emergency
rent
assistance.
So
I
think
you're
right
erica.
I
think
the
the
primary
focus
is
on
renters,
but
I
think
v,
maybe
might
be
the
exception
there,
because.
F
That
community
engagement
and
I
keep
going
back
to
support.
I
don't
know
why
I'm
stuck
on
that
word.
F
No,
I
was
literally
just
thinking
out
loud.
I
was
thinking
of
the
values
that
we
had
talked
through.
H
H
Community
partners-
I
was
just
going
to
remind
us
that
there
are
a
lot
of
organizations
that
not
be
necessarily
with
an
address
in
bloomington
that
have
serving
bloomington
residents
as
a
large
part
of
their
ones.
That
come
to
mind
are
ones
that
are
part
of
the
ownership
center
network.
There's
many,
but
two
that
I
want
to
point
out
particularly,
is
clues
which
serves
the
latinx
population.
H
They
have
worked
with
bloomington
residents
to
purchase
homes,
and
they
also,
even
though
it's
not
counted
in
our
numbers
for
for
rent
assistance
through
leap,
did
a
lot
of
work
and
served.
Many
many
renters
of
bloomington
renters
with
rental
assistance
during
covid
and
another
one
is
the
african
development
center
that,
although
it's
located
in
minneapolis,
they
have
a
strong
partnership
with
dal
al
farooq
and
do
homeownership
and
financial
wealth
building
classes.
G
Did
in
that,
did
I
hear
a
vote
for
kind
of
putting
this
non-profit
administration
in
support
more
in
the
fairness
and
equity
bucket.
H
It
makes
sense
to
me
okay,
but
I'm
just
one
voice
here,
so
I
you
know
it
fits
in
so
many
categories.
It's.
G
E
I
do
that
I'll
just
say:
I
agree
that
it
could
fall
into
multiple
categories.
I,
like
just
the
broad
term
that
we
could
build
on,
maybe
comes
in
the
next
section
when
we
talk
about
what's
missing,
but
I
think
partnerships
in
general
are
important
and
that
could
be
non-profit
partners
specific.
You
know
to
housing
or
other
things,
and
it
could
be
other
partners
having
to
do
with
redevelopment
and
let's
face
it,
every
redevelopment
we
do
is
a
partnership.
E
It's
a
partnership
with
landowners,
it's
a
partnership
with
those
who
develop
the
land,
and
I
know
from
the
work
that
sherry
and
predecessors
have
done
how
much
you
work
with
those
people
day
in
and
day
out
to
make
things
happen,
and
those
are
partnerships
as
well.
So
I
think
partnerships
is,
is
you
know
and
the
nonprofit
could
fall
under,
but
I
think
partnerships
are
important.
G
Okay,
so
for
now
I've
duplicated
this
and
I've
kind
of
put
this
this
potential
category
partnership
sort
of
as
a
placeholder.
The
only
other
thing
that
needs
a
little
further
discussion
or
just
opinions
is:
is
there
a
place
for
the
help
program
or
is
that
an
orphan.
G
I
figured
it
kind
of
had
a
place
so
now,
just
kind
of
read
read
over
these
again
or,
as
we've
been
talking.
Give
me
give
me
a
sense
of
like
of
all
these
programs
listed
here:
programs,
policies
etc.
G
What
here
sparks
joy-
and
maybe
some
of
you
guys
have
seen
the
the
netflix
the
episode
on
the
the
person,
the
organization
person
that
if
it
sparks
joy,
yes,
thank
you,
I
was
actually
gonna
look
up
her
name,
because
I
couldn't
remember
it
and
I
didn't
I
forgot
to
do
it
before
the
meeting
marie
condo.
I
made
my
husband
watch
it.
He
was
not
as
excited
about
it
as
I
was
okay.
So
what
what
here
sparks
joy
like
when
you
like
kind
of
at
first
look?
That's
like!
F
G
K
I
would
say:
fairness
and
equity,
you
know
those
are
typically
the
people
who
are
not
housed
or
not
housed
in
a
way
or
situation
that
meets
their
family's
needs,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
boost
their
opportunities
is
great.
I
K
G
A
No,
I
think,
because
you're
the
host
now
margaret
you
are
monitoring
that
that's.
Why.
G
Oh
okay
is,
did
he
get
in
because
I
at
the
notice
went
away.
G
Okay.
Sorry,
thank
you
sorry
back
to
here,
so
I
hear
an
echoing
of
of
fairness
and
equity
really
sparking
joy
other
other
things
that
we
should
make
sure
to
put
a
little
spark
next
to.
J
Well,
I
agree
with
what's
being
said
here:
this
is
brian,
but
finance,
housing
and
redevelopment
sparks
join
me
because
you
know
we've
added
so
many
tools
here
that
we
had
in
the
past
and
I'm
really
very
positive
about
the
future.
That
would
have
a
greater
impact
not
only
for
providing
housing
but
doing
just.
E
I
I
view
these
as
as
brian
alluded
to
there's
a
lot
of
tools
here,
and
sometimes
a
tool
can
spark
joy
and
sometimes
it's
just
a
means
to
an
end.
And
as
we
were
thinking
here,
I
was
thinking
about
a
tour.
We
took
of
a
new,
affordable
housing
project
that
was
somewhere
in
like
invergrove
heights
kind
of
area.
E
I
don't
think
it
was
a
little
invergrove
heights
and
those
of
us
on
the
board
at
the
time
went
to
visit
that
and
the
developer
of
that
project
eventually
has
redeveloped,
provided
the
housing
at
at
old
shock
in
normandale,
and
that
sparked
a
lot
of
joy
in
me
because
they
did
a
great
job
of
talking
about,
and
we
saw
the
results
of
the
impact
that
that
was
having
on
the
people
who
were
moving
in
that
following
weekend
and
the
stories
they
shared
and
that
really
sunk
in,
and
they
shared
some
stories
about
how
incredibly
joyful
the
people
were
to
to
be
able
to
move
into
a
home
of
their
own
from
where
they
had
been
or
a
decent
home
or,
and
it
just
had
a
huge
impact
on
me
and
it
made
me
realize
you
know
what
it
is
we're
doing
here.
E
G
D
I
don't
know
if
I'm
solely
looking
at
it.
That
way-
and
I
understand
why
you
called
the
non-profit
administration
support
partnerships
because
they
certainly
are,
but
I
believe
that
to
be
successful
in
here,
we
really
need
to
consider
all
of
those
financers
developers
and
other
kinds
of
facilitators
as
partners.
G
Since
I
I
and
I'm
hearing
that
from
from
a
few
people,
how
about
we,
take
I'm
going
to
give
you
about
three
minutes
right
now,
and
I
want
you
to
just
write
into
the
chat,
just
as
things
occur
to
you,
reflecting
here
like
what's
missing
from
this
board
now
now
that
we've
kind
of
identified
where
we're
so
I
I
added
lenders
here
based
on
your
comment,
but
let's
everybody
kind
of
just
looking
here,
what
what's
missing
and
if
you
can
give
us
a
sense
of
what
category
you
think
it
goes
under
when
you,
when
you
know,
what's
missing
and
it's
okay,
if
it's
uncategorized,
if
you
don't
know,
you
can
just
put
it
into
the
thing.
G
But
if
you
know
the
category,
you
think
it
should
belong
under
great
I'm
going
to
try
and
keep
up
with
you
as
you
put
them
in.
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
Oh
okay,
that
are
actually
on
the
screen
all
right,
so
we
have
public
private
partnerships,
home
improvement,
loans
for
first-time
buyers,
state
and
federal
partners,
developer
partners,
housing
education
such
as
maintenance
financing,
credit
wealth
building
down
payment
assistance,
engaging
stakeholders,
land,
banking
and
single
family
redevelopment.
G
Okay,
you
guys
are
awesome
and
I
am
realizing
how
long
this
list
is,
and
so
I'm
gonna
keep.
I
am
going
to
keep
reading
off
the
ideas
in
the
chat,
but
stop
spending
so
much
time
putting
these
up
and
just
guarantee
you
that
they
will
make
it
on
to
final
notes
that
get
sent
out
to
the
group.
G
Picking
up
where
mike
left
off,
going
to
note
partner
with
supportive
housing
providers
for
very
low
income
or
those
experiencing
housing
crisis,
we
have
senior
communities
and
life
cycle
housing,
bhs
list
with
partnerships
under
fairness
and
equity
incentive
programs
to
encourage
community
involvement,
culturally
specific
engagement
and
partnerships.
G
G
Enthusiastic
support
of
that
bloomington
schools
as
partners
as
well
as
oasis
for
homeless,
youth
and
then
unhoused
efforts
and
supports
and
a
question
of,
is
if
veep
is
anywhere
and
john.
You
might
not
have
been
part
of
the
conversation
earlier.
We
noted
that
veep
is
one
of
the
recipients
of
the
non-profit
administration
support,
so
they're
kind
of
somewhat
they're
implied
on
under
partnerships,
but
not
explicitly
stated.
G
Is
meet
with
residents
at
village
club
new
builds
during
first
year,
valuable
input,
focus
groups
so
getting
specific
input
or
doing
focus
groups
with
residents.
I'm
assuming
from
these
different
communities.
L
Yeah,
basically,
the
before
and
after
kind
of
things,
you
know
the
need
but
wants
to
get
into
a
new
facility.
What
what
can
we
learn
from
how
we
went
about
doing
that?
For
example,.
G
A
youth
council
for
input,
engagement
in
education
and
another
enthusiastic,
yes
to
youth
council
looks
like
vicky
and
eric
are
vibing
on
the
youth
on
the
youth
involvement.
I'm
just
going
to
capture
that
really
quickly.
Here,
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
what
was
noted,
are
sort
of
are
adding
to
our
partnerships
list.
G
G
That
was
listed
here
in
these
red
post-it
notes
or
that
the
things
lingering
in
the
chat
that
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
put
up
on
the
screen.
F
So
for
me,
when
I
was
saying
youth,
council
or
youth
involvement,
I'm
not
sure
what
category
that
belongs
in,
because
the
thought
process,
it's
it's,
it's
multiple
things,
it's
having
youth,
allowing
their
input
and
their
say
so,
but
it's
also
a
very
big
education
piece
there.
There
are
different
programs.
F
You
know
real
estate
development
as
a
whole
is
just
a
beast
and
all
the
moving
parts
that
go
with
it,
and
I
have
this
thing
about
getting
to
the
youth
while
they're
in
junior
high
or
high
school,
so
they're
learning
that,
but
then
also
bringing
them
in
because
it
especially
with
the
hra
they're
learning
policies.
Government.
You
know
how
laws
are
like
there's
just
so
much
there's
the
education
piece
and
then
on
the
flip
side,
it's
actually
housing
them
right.
F
So,
like
you
know,
there's
things
that
you
don't
learn
until
you
are
able
to
actually
talk
to
someone
on
their
level
and
as
we
as
we
know,
over
the
years,
the
the
definition
of
wholeness
has
changed.
It
used
to
be
really
just
not
having
a
a
home
a
permanent
home,
but
it
has
changed.
To
are
you
you
know,
doubled
up.
Are
you
count
chopping?
F
Are
you
so
the
definition
of
homelessness
or
those
experiencing
homelessness
has
actually
changed,
and
I
think
that
youth
involvement
gets
to
all
of
those
things
that
I
was
just
trying
to
capture,
and
I
didn't
know
how.
G
Could
I
call
this
like?
I
was
thinking
of
calling
it
something
like
you
mentioned,
the
word
education,
which
I
said:
okay
yeah
like
education,
but
it
sounds
almost
like
what
you're
talking
about
is
growing
like
civic
involvement
or
like
civic
awareness,
like
the
sense
of
like
youth
understanding
their
government
and
how
government
works
and
how
housing
developments
work
and
how
financing
works
and
also
kind
of
empowering
their
voice
in
the
process.
C
I
look
at
it
as
partly
to
future
leaders.
These
are
people
that
we
want
to
engage
and
bring
in
and
hope
to
eventually
stay
in
our
community
and
lead
our
community
and,
in
my
opinion,
but
yeah.
I
definitely
agree
with
erica
with
the
terms
of
homelessness.
I
worked
11
years
down
at
a
non-profit
contract
alternative
school
in
minneapolis
with
the
native
american
youth.
So
I
really
think
that
you
know
it
could
be
partly
education
and
future
leaders
giving
them
that
power
kind
of
to
the
empowerment.
K
In
this,
in
the
sense
of
how
vicky
is
talking
about
it,
I
I
wonder
if
it
could
actually
be
part
of
partnership,
because
we're
we're
talking
about
non-profits
and
how
we
partner
with
them
or
lenders
or
whoever
might
be
in
there's,
definitely
education.
As
a
part
of
that
we're.
You
know
engaging
with
all
of
those
folks
as
well
to
get
their
input
within
the
community.
K
So
so
maybe
it's
calling
out
youth
within
that
area
of
of
partnership
and
all
of
the
various
components
that
we,
you
know
need
from
youth,
not
just
their
voices,
but
you
know
how
it
impacts
their
own
lives
and
the
leadership
that
we
want
to
get
from
them.
F
L
Yeah
and
it's
in
the
chat,
but
I
would
that
was
in
the
context
of
it-
seems
to
me
that
an
annual
meeting
or
something
like
that
with
our
delegation
to
the
legislature
would
be
wise.
Just
back
and
forth.
Communication
learn
more
about
programs.
L
If
they're
more
aware
of
what
we're
aiming
to
do,
maybe
they
can
help
us
out,
but
on
the
lobbying
part,
the
state
kinds
of
programs
can
can
help
us
in
bloomington,
and
then
our
delegation
can
maybe
help
us
with
individual
things
too.
But
thank
you.
G
Things
up
here
that
don't
feel
like
that
they
have.
I
I
know
that
you
guys
noted
your
categories
when
you
put
things
into
the
chat,
so
that
will
be
reflected
in
the
final
organization
of
this.
But
are
there
other
things
up
here
that
you
want
to
get
up
some
more
clarification
about
or
that
you
or
that
you
don't
feel
like,
has
a
clear.
E
Category
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
about
land
banking.
It's
something
that
our
hra
has
not
done
a
lot,
and
I
think
it's
just
something
that
we
need
it's
another
tool.
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
in
our
strategic
planning
in
terms
of
our
long-term
visions.
Typically,
we
use
you
know
great
tools
like
options
on
a
property.
They
tend
to
be
short-term,
but
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
as
another
one
of
the
tools,
even
though
we're
not
using
it
extensively
today.
I
think
it's
it's
one.
G
Thank
you,
and
do
you
feel
like
that
land
banking
would
go
under
like
home
ownership,
or
is
it
kind
of
it
or
does
it
not
really
have
a
home.
E
No,
it's
more,
like
staff
might
be
able
to
help
me
out,
but
it's
really.
It
has
to
do
with.
E
You
know
as
a
fully
fully
developed
community,
it's
very
hard
to
pull
together
enough
land,
in
short
terms,
to
to
build
a
significant
project,
make
numbers
work
for
developers,
make
things
work
for
us,
make
things
transit,
friendly
and
and
so
on,
like
that,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
use
the
tool
to
to
have
some
some
visions
for
particular
parts
of
the
community
that
we
identify
where
long
term
want
to
do
substantial
redevelopment.
E
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
have
the
budget
to
start
picking
up
some
of
that
property
long
term
and
you
know
hold
it
until
we
can
pull
together
significant
redevelopments.
G
L
L
Something
something
else
I
was
in,
but
the
other
thing
when
I
was
still
on
the
phone.
There
was
talk
about
sustainability,
and
I
I'm
not
seeing
that
here.
I
don't
think.
If
I
scan
correctly,
I
don't
know
what
it
what
what
you
decided
to
fit
into,
but.
G
Yeah,
that's
a
that's
a
good
point
and
that
was
kind
of
going
to
be
my
next.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
step
in
this
process
is
kind
of
cross-checking
this
this
list
of
both
current
and
missing,
or
you
know
future
programs
with
our
values
and
seeing
where
there's
alignment,
but
I
do
want
to
do
a
time
check
we're
at
7,
15.
G
erica.
My
original
time
was
gonna
end
at
7
15,
or
I
told
you
like
an
hour
and
45
minutes.
I
probably
have
another
15
minutes.
I
could.
I
can
be
here
and
continue
moving
this
conversation
along
and
then
we
can
kind
of
get
to
a
stopping
point
and
pick
up
where
we
left
off
at
a
future
session,
or
I
can
try
and
kind
of
round
this
out
here.
But
then
I'm
going
to
have
to
move
the
group
on
perhaps
quicker
than
than
you
know
I
was
anticipating.
F
I
think
it's
up
to
you,
we
don't
the
only
other
thing
on
the
agenda
is
just
looking
at
the
programs.
That's
it
it's
all
the
strategic
planning
session,
but
I
also
would
ask
the
group
if
you
want
to
get
to
a
stopping
point
and
then
pick
up
at
a
later
session,
because
it
is
a
lot.
But
I
think
this
is
really
really
good
discussion
for
us
to
be
able
to
plan
out
what
we
want
to
do
as
an
hra.
G
So
I
will
give
the
group
a
sense
of
what
what
I
was
planning
on
doing
with
the
group
and
then
you
guys
can
kind
of
decide
if
you
want
to
keep
going
with
that
or
if
we
should
take
just
kind
of
close
out
this
section
and
then
pick
back
up.
So
my
thought
was
that
we
were
going
to
go
back
through
and
look
at
our
values
and
then
look
at
we've
got
the
things
that
really
spark
joy.
But
then
I
wanted
to
look
for
areas
of
alignment
and
misalignment
with
the
values.
G
So
we
were
going
to
go
through
and
look
at
kind
of,
what's
critical
to
our
to
our
values.
And
then
what
is
you
know,
no
longer
feeling
relevant
or
as
central
to
our
values
and
then
and
then
we
were
and
then
what
were
we
going
to
do?
We
were
going
to
identify
some
gaps
and
opportunities
which
we've
already
started
to
do
here
in
in
this
list,
and
then
we
were
gonna
wrap
it
up
by
trying
to
take
a
stab
at
a
mission
statement.
G
Now
I
don't
think
we
can
get
through
all
of
that
in
in
the
next
15
minutes.
So
I
think
where
I
could
reasonably
get
us
to
is
just
to
continue
to
have
a
more
in-depth
discussion
about
about
these
things
on
on
the
list
and
having
a
check-in
kind
of
with
our
values.
G
To
try
and
carry
this
forward
into
more
specific
kind
of
goals
and
objectives
and
talk
about
how
you
begin
making
a
work
plan
off
of
this.
G
E
It
seems
to
me
with,
because
you
said
you
have
about
15
minutes
left.
It
seems
to
me
that
just
you
know
around,
as
you
suggested,
pretty
much
what
you
suggested
kind
of
circling
around
closing
it
up,
but
certainly
we're
not
going
to
get
the
mission
statement.
At
this
point.
It
seems
like
the
the
the
best
option,
given
the
amount
of
time.
G
E
Interested
in
hearing
from
others
as
well-
but
it's
really
your
you
know
your
time
frame
as
well.
K
So
this
is
tracy,
just
as
you
know,
point
of
reference
as
somebody
else
who
facilitates
in
the
city.
I
I
would
encourage
you
to
give
yourself
the
time
to
fully
you
know,
have
the
discussions
margaret
has
prepared.
So
you
know
that
suggestion
of
you
know
getting
through
this
part
here
in
the
next
15
minutes.
But
then,
coming
back
to
me
seems
like
a
good
plan.
L
L
But
mission
statements
are
oftentimes
put
on
the
shelf,
but
we
need
to
somehow
capture
the
key
of
what
we
want
to
do
and
this
whole
exercise
is
so
appreciated
for
hra
I
mean
just
to
to
envision
where
we
need
to
go
where
we're
at
now.
So
I
I
I'm
so
glad
we're
doing
this.
Thank
you.
Bye.
G
Thank
you
and
I'm
seeing
some
I'm
seeing
some
more
support
for
summarizing
and
and
finishing
at
another
time.
Yep
and
I
agree.
I
think
that
we
we
get
into
kind
of
some
fatigue
when
we,
if
we
we
try
and
power
through
much
more
so
I'm
I'm
hearing
alignment.
I
think
I
have
a
sense
of
what
I
want
us
to
try
and
do
what
I'm
I'm
not
even
going
to
really
bother
with
going
back
to
the
values.
G
At
this
point,
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
is:
let's
keep
talking
a
little
bit
more
about
what's
on
the
screen
on
these
red
notes
and
whether
they
belong
in
categories
we'll
we'll
spend
maybe
another
five
minutes
or
so
on
that
and
then
I'll
just
have
kind
of
a
closing
conversation
with
you,
then
I'll
type
up
the
notes
and
are
my
best
understanding
of
the
different
categories
here
and
where
they
go
and
we'll
send
that
back
out
to
you
and
then
I'll
work
with
erica
and
mike
to
schedule.
G
Another
time
where
we
can
come
back
together
and
and
continue
looking
at
obviously
there's
a
lot
on
this
board,
and
so
I
think,
just
understanding
like
where
the
hra
staff
should
be
prioritizing
their
time
for
the
work
plan
for
the
for
the
next
couple
of
years
will
be
really
necessary
for
them
because
as
much
as
they'd
love
to
do
it
all,
I
know
they
they
they
can't,
or
they
wouldn't
appreciate
me
committing
them
to
do
all
this.
So
so.
L
John,
I'm
sorry,
john
here
waving
my
hand,
I'm
not
sure
the
process
here,
but.
L
But
one
of
the
things
I
just
chat
put
a
chat
thingy
about
I'm
not
seeing
any
a
hit
column
about
the
economic
redevelopment
part,
and
so
I
I
mentioned
we
need
to
connect
better
with
small
businesses,
which
are
tend
to
be
the
ones
that
we
would
need.
You
know
the
various
strip
malls
or
whatever
that
are,
you
know
built
in
the
50s
60s
or
whatever.
L
G
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
one
of
the
strong
points
that
I
was
hearing
from
mark
just
around
you
know:
where
does
redevelopment
fit
in
and
and
does
it
belong
just
purely
in
the
financing
category
or
is
it
a
category
in
and
of
itself
sorry,
and
I'm
also
trying
to
read
chats
at
the
same
time
and
next
time,
I'm
gonna
for
sure
make
sure
I've
got
a
an
additional
partner
here
to
help
with
all
the
scribing
and
chatting.
G
But
mark
was
noting
that
the
economic
that
that
need
for
an
economic
or
a
focus
on
redevelopment
and
john.
What
I
heard
from
you
is
is
that
you
know
you
were
noting
specifically
reaching
out
and
building
partnerships
there,
but
you
know.
Might
I
suggest
that
there's
a
there's
a
category,
that's
specifically
speaking
to
the
redevelopment
piece,
maybe
also
pulling
in
some
of
the
financing
tools
listed
in
the
category.
F
So
one
thing
I'm
noticing
is
word
partners
or
partnerships,
and
this
is
just
just
from
my
experience.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
say
partnerships
that
we're
defining
what
that
looks
like
not
necessarily
just
getting
input
from
people,
but
also-
which
is
why
I
think,
stakeholders,
but
also
those
that
help
carry
out
pieces
of
the
work,
and
so
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
difference.
F
F
G
So
when
you
said
stakeholders,
that's
I'm
gonna
kind
of
I'd
put
a
little
definition
underneath
there
is
a
as
a
placeholder,
but
that
partnerships
are.
You
know,
people
that
we
engage,
that
we
want
to
be
part
of
the
conversation,
but
also
those
that
we
need
to
help
carry
out
the
work
such
as
developers,
legislative
delegation,
you're,
calling
those
people,
stakeholders.
F
Yes
and
funding,
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
we
also
need
funding
in
those
partnerships.
We
need
money
to
do
certain
things
that
we
identify
are
our
common
goals.
E
E
If
you
look
at
kind
of
parts
of
the
twin
cities
that
people
like
to
visit,
that
have
art
fairs
and
gatherings
and
celebrations
and
and
restaurants-
and
you
know
it's
it's-
those
that
have
a
strong
business
association
like
50th
and
france,
or
grand
avenue
and
those
kinds
of
things,
and
I
would
like
to
see
again
more
input
from
the
business
community
as
as
john
suggested,
but
also
as
erica
suggested.
You
know,
people
who
are
engaged
and
actually
doing
things
too,
and
I
think
that
I
could.
E
I
can
envision
a
a
lindale
avenue
business
association
that
that
carries
on
you
know.
You
know,
events
that
attract
people
to
the
area
and
you
know
improving
landscaping
of
of
their
own
property,
and
you
know
all
those
kinds
of
things.
So
I
I
think
that's
it's
been
discussed
in
the
past,
but
it's
another
example
of
a
partner,
and
I
just
had
to
comment
on
it.
Ties
in
with
what
both
john
and
erica
brought
up.
G
I
That's
one
of
the
recommendations
that
will
be
coming
forward,
trying
to
figure
out
who
and
would
be
the
champion
of
that
but
yeah.
One
of
the
suggestions.
G
Yeah-
and
I
know
that
there's
also
been
discussion
by
community
members
and
staff
around
just
the
concept
of
neighborhood
associations
as
well,
not
just
businesses,
but
you
know
neighborhoods
neighborhoods
other
other
things
that
we
want
to
kind
of
flush
out
before
we
close
up
things
that
need
more
description
or
that
that
don't
have
a
clear
home.
G
F
I
don't
have
an
idea.
I
would
welcome
anybody
else's
thoughts
because
the
I
the
the
thought
process,
those
are
actually
two
different
things,
so
senior
communities,
and
then
life
cycle,
housing
and
so
in
in
bloomington,
where
we
have.
We
have
older
residents
living
in
larger
homes,
but
they
want
to
possibly
stay
in
their
community.
F
What
do
we
have
for
them
to
move
into,
therefore,
that
home
now
can
be
made
and
it
might
not
be
a
larger
home,
but
it's
too
large
for
them
at
the
time
that
home
can
now
be
something
that
becomes
something
for
a
first
time
home,
buyer
or
maybe
that
home
is
a
little
bit
older
and
hasn't
been
updated.
So
it's
not
as
expensive.
F
So
that's
what
I'm
thinking
of
in
life
cycle
housing
like
what
is
available
throughout
bloomington
for
all
different
income
levels,
for
you
to
be
able
to
not
have
to
leave
the
community
but
have
the
amenities
in
which
you
have
become
accustomed
to
and
that
you
need
within
a
certain
a
certain
area
of
where
you're
living.
So
that's
how
I
was
thinking
of
that
and
for
me
one
of
the
ways
to
get
to
that
is
a
senior
community.
L
I'd
I'd
like
to
toss
in
the
language
of
aging
and
place,
in
fact,
I
think
margaret
you're
you're
at
in
the
the
health
division.
Aren't
you.
G
L
And
something
we
support
yeah
and
I
think-
and
there
might
even
be
funding
for
that
kind
of
thing,
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
when
I've
been
going
door-to-door
and
and
whatnot
that
have
are
living
in
a
home.
That
has
a
lot
of
memories.
They
want
to
stay
close
to
where,
where
they
like
to
shop,
their
dentist
faith
community,
you
know
whatever,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
to
have
some.
L
Maybe
a
a
portion
of
them
come
to
us
at
some
point
and
just
to
hear
their
stories.
I
think
that
would
help
us
decide
how
we
can
help
with
that,
and-
and
part
of
that,
I
think
aging
in
place
is.
A
G
Yeah-
and
I
don't
think
I
have
got
it
up
on
the
screen
quite
yet,
but
I
remember
you
put
into
the
chat
john,
the
idea
of
of
doing
kind
of
like
evaluation
like
getting
doing
focus
groups
or
listening
sessions
with
people
where
we
have
had
programs
and
and
getting
a
sense
of
what's
going
well
and
and
what
people
still
need.
So
that
kind
of
builds
on
that
idea,
as
well
kind
of
hearing
from
the
people
directly.
F
Gonna
go
ahead.
Real,
quick,
supportive
and
transitional
housing
is
missing.
F
I
G
Okay,
so
let's
just
have
a
focus
conversation
to
kind
of
close
out
the
evening.
I
know
that
we
haven't
this
work,
isn't
complete
and
and
we'll
work
with
staff.
I
saw
a
chat,
you
know
referring
to
kind
of
a
timely
reconvening
so
that
this
conversation
doesn't
get
left
off.
G
I
know
that
eric
has
committed
to
that
and
in
fact
needs
this
conversation
to
happen
quickly,
so
that
her
and
her
staff
can
develop
work
plans,
so
we'll
work
together
to
schedule
a
future
session,
but
you
know
just
seeing
the
scope
of
of
work
that
the
hra
is
involved
in
is
really
inspiring,
and
I
know
I've
learned
a
lot
tonight,
let's
hear
from
from
you
all
in
in
any
order.
G
Just
anybody
who
wants
to
speak
can
just
note
anything
new
that
you
discovered
as
we
went
through
this
process
tonight.
It
can
be.
L
John
would
offer
that
what
we're
doing
now
is
not
a
one
and
off
kind
of
process
for
activity,
and
so
I
I
would
like
to
build
in
somehow
to
the
hra
that
there
is
some
kind
of
a
review
of
what
comes
out
of
this
tonight
in
follow-up
meeting,
to
tweak
it
or
to
remind
us
or
whatever
it's
a
very
ambitious
list.
And
so
I
think
we
also
have
need
to
analyze
it
in
terms
of
how
do
we
determine
priorities.
G
Yep-
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
the
goal
for
a
future
session
that
I
was
referring
to
that's
that
was
kind
of
what
we
had
hoped
to
maybe
accomplish
tonight.
I
think
instead,
we've
had
a
much
more
robust
conversation,
which
I
think
is
valuable
too,
and
so
a
future
session
would
would
involve
prioritizing
resources
and
really
looking
at
you
know
what
what
can
you
practically
do,
but.
C
For
me,
it's
really
made
me
re-engaged
and
excited
this
hearing,
everybody's
ideas
and
stuff.
Really,
you
know
kind
of
lights
that
fire
back
underneath
and
makes
you
really
excited
for
the
next
year
and
future.
So
I
really
appreciate
everybody's
opinions
and
ideas
here.
It's
really
awesome.
I
I
L
I
I
appreciate
your
comment,
michael
I
and,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
maybe
is
kind
of
assumed,
but
maybe
should
be
stated,
is
that
we
need
to,
I
think,
as
a
as
a
commission
as
a
we
need
to
understand
the
workings
of
our
the
planning
department
and
and
see
how
we
fit
into
that.
How
do
we
team
up
with
them
and
maybe
even
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
big
picture?
L
There's
you
know
if
we
talk
about
venn
diagrams,
we
have
some
overlap,
but
at
least
in
mission
and
some
activities
with
the
port
you
know
and
and
how
do
we
fit
fit
there
and
part
of
it
is
you
know
when
the
budget
happens?
G
So
I'm
hearing
the
next
steps
being
prioritizing.
I
we're
all
feeling
a
bit
overwhelmed
at
this
point,
which
is
not
exactly
the
note
that
I
wanted
to
end
on,
but
know
that
this
is
the
first
step
in
a
in
a
in
in
a
process
that
the
hra's
taking
and
that
we're
on
a
journey
that
we're
on
together.
G
I've
got
suggestions
here,
besides
obvious
priority,
prioritization
looking
at
maybe
doing
some
sort
of
venn
diagram
or
developing
a
deeper
understanding
of
planning
and
port
authority
divisions,
specifically
with
an
eye
towards
budget
and
seeing
how
we
might
be
able
to
kind
of
maximize
resources.
There
are
there
other
things
that
you
feel
like
you
need
in
order
to
kind
of
continue
on
with
this
process,
or
that
you
want
the
hra
or
the
facilitator
to
come
planned,
come
ready
to
discuss
at
the
next
session.
F
So
for
me,
because
I'm
new,
what
would
be
helpful
for
me,
probably
at
the
next
session,
as
you
mentioned,
is
understanding
what
we
deem
as
important
overall,
but
what
we
deem
as
important
as
of
right
now
considering
the
time
that
we're
in
such
as
covid
and
the
impacts
of
covid
such
as
the
unhoused
efforts,
such
as
budget
cuts.
What
do
we
deem
that's
most
pressing
that
has
kind
of
shifted,
because
we
have
to
we
kind
of
work?
F
We
have
to
work
in
the
time
in
which
we're
in
so
I
want
to
know
what's
important
overall
and
then
what
is
pressing
that
may
have
risen
to
the
top,
because
of
where
we
are
right
now.
F
Just
ideas
on
when
we
can
do
that
future
session.
I
know
I
have
some
floating
in
my
head
right
now,
but
I
don't
have
other
people's
schedules
or
in
front
of
me
or
anything.
So
if
any
any
of
the
board
members
have
ideas
or
staff
around
how
quick
we
could
do
another
session
or
prefer
to
do
another
session.
E
I
would
I
think
this
has
been
incredibly
valuable
and
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
momentum
going
and
so
speaking
for
myself
yeah
if
we
could
connect
it,
certainly
within
a
couple
of
weeks
and
continue.
E
L
I
agree
with
that.
I'm
just
wondering
where
we're
at
with
city
policy
and
all,
but
is
a
group
of
this
size
ready
for
a
safe
distance
apart
maybe
meeting,
for
example
in
the
public
works
that
large
room
there
or
something
like
that.
So
we
can
do
a
face
to
face.
I
think
it's
more
efficient
and
somehow
more
effective
if
it's
not
time
fine,
but
I'd
like
us
to
at
least
look
at
that
possibility.
G
Speaking
as
the
public
health
division,
I
will
say
that
probably
not
gonna
with
the.
I
don't.
I
think,
we're
near
10,
they're,
really
advising
and
discouraging
city
staff
from
I
think,
almost
from
a
liability
perspective
from
doing
that.
So
I
you
know
I
personally
might
not
have
an
issue
with
it,
but
you
probably
won't
get
a
lot
of
traction
for
it
within
the
city.
G
B
C
The
only
thing
I
would
like
to
suggest
is
just
as
soon
as
we
can
get
any
of
the
supporting
documentation
just
so
we
have
maybe
a
little
extra
time
to
kind
of
jot
down
some
ideas
and
things
ahead
of
time.
So
maybe
it
can
move
a
little
and
I'm
not
saying
it
didn't
move
smoothly
at
all.
I'm
just
saying
that,
maybe
with
organized
thoughts
and
things
like
that,
it
might
just
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
everybody.
E
G
Yeah,
I
will
definitely
be
getting
this
to
you.
You
know
tomorrow,
the
maybe
the
day
after
at
the
latest,
so
you'll
have
at
least
this
and
then
sounds
like
erica
mike,
and
I
need
to
kind
of
put
our
heads
together
about
a
future
session
and
and
being
able
to
do
that
planning
ahead
of
time
so
that
we
can
get
you
documents.
You
know
more
than
a
couple
days
in
advance,
but
that'll
be
a
quick
turnaround.
So.
K
Margaret
I'll
just
offer
myself
to
if
you
need
any
other
help
with
facilitation.
Thank
you
beyond
what
you
know
mike
I
I
know
is
assigned
to
this
group
too.
I'm
happy
to
change
hats,
to
go
back
to
your
beginning
slide
and
put
on
my
facilitator
hat
in
this
too.
G
Thank
you
that
that's
that's
helpful
and
now,
having
observed
the
session,
you
can
maybe
give
me
a
sense
of
specific
things
too.
So
we
can
chat
offline.
Well,
I'm
an
excuse
myself.
My
my
young
children
are
sort
of
banging
at
the
door.
I
can
hear
them
behind
me,
so
you
know
this
is
too
much
long
for
mom
to
be
away
in
the
evening.
So
thank
you
all
for.
G
I'm
going
to
stay
on
silently
and
just
try
and
capture
the
chat
and
a
few
other
things.
F
Thank
you
very
much
so
chair
thorson,
I'm
gonna,
kick
it
back
to
you.
Did
you
want
to
try
and
decide
what
a
couple
of
weeks
looks
like
first
off?
Would
you
like
a
special
meeting,
or
is
it
something
that
you
feel
we
can
do
at
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
E
That
would
probably
depend
on
what
business
we
see
on
future
meetings.
Obviously,
the
next
meeting
of
the
26th
there's
a
lot
on
the
agenda.
E
B
C
E
I'm
wondering
if
the
best
tool
is,
I
forget
what
it's
called,
but
when
myra
sends
out
some
options
and
we
vote
on
what
works
best,
it
seems
to
work
better
than
all
of
us.
Looking
at
our
calendars
and-
and
so
I
would
suggest
meyer
if
you
could
use
that
tool
to.
A
A
He's
our
only
person
that
is
kind
of
a
moving
target
just
because
I'm
wondering,
if
he's
still
doing
taxes
this
year,
because
that
was
kind
of
his
issue
last
year.
Remember
we
couldn't
meet
because
he
was
doing
tax
work,
but
I
guess
we'll
put
the
poll
out
there
and
see
what
he
comes
back
with.
L
And
I
think
he
can
you
know
we
we
can
bend
to
his
his
schedule,
but
you
know
and.
E
E
F
F
So
it's
just
really
informational
only
and
it's
nothing
that
we
need
to
do
or
look
at
because
we
had
those,
but
I
think
it's
helpful.
It
was
helpful
for
me
to
understand
the
name
of
the
program
or
policy,
but
also
what
does
it
apply
to.
E
Absolutely
all
right,
it
looks
like
there's
no
other
business
to
come
before
us.
I
would
now
look
for
a
motion
to.
C
C
I
F
Thank
you,
chair
thorson,
commissioner
huhim.
Please
excuse
me.
Yes,
I
had
spoken
with
margaret
as
a
facilitator
and
she
had.
Let
me
know
that
that
was
a
very
robust
thing
to
try
and
do
in
trying
to
have
the
strategic
planning
session
and
get
through
those
ideas
and
the
agenda
with
her
as
well
as
the
bylaws,
and
so
yes,
I
had
spoken
with
our
general
counsel.
F
We
do
get
one
free
or
we
don't
get
charged
by
the
general
counsel
meeting
annually,
and
so
the
general
counsel
can
be
available
next
week
at
our
regularly
scheduled
meeting,
which
is
doesn't
have
a
very
heavy
agenda
where
we
can
just
focus
on
the
bylaws,
but
we
can
also,
you
know,
see
how
that
goes.
L
I
would
john
here
I
would
suggest
that
that
we
may
kind
of
redo
the
process
that
we
did
tonight
and
that
is
put
a
lot
of
stuff
on
the
table
and
then
have
some
steeping
time
to
before
we
drink
the
tea
or
whatever.
B
Yes
mentioned,
I
have
an
I
copy
of
our
bylaws,
and
so
I
was
able
to
review
them.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
important,
that
all
the
members
get
a
copy
of
our
existing
bylaws,
because
I
don't
really
think
we
can
have
a
meeting
where
we
open
it
up
to
everything.
B
If
we
don't
know
what
we
already
have
on
paper,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
that
go
out
to
all
the
members
and
that
they
all
have
a
chance
to
review
it
prior
to
discussing
the
bylaws,
it's
really
hard
to
decide
to
change
something
if
you're
not
sure
what
it
is.
So
you
know
at
least
I
have
a
copy
of
it.
So
I
assume
it
is
available
and
is
that
something
meyer
that
can
be
sent
out.
A
They're
in
granicus,
in
one
of
the
former
meetings-
I
I
don't
recall,
but
I
can
easily
just
send
them
all
out
to
your
bloomington
email,
yeah.
B
I
think,
but
I
just
think
it
would
be
good
because
then
everyone
will
have
it
in
hand.
I
mean
I
actually
printed
mine
off,
and
you
know
it's
kind
of
nice
to
have
it
in
front
of
you
when
we're
discussing
it.
F
Thank
you,
chairperson
and
commissioner
lewis.
We
will
make
sure
that
it's
included
in
agenda
packing
for
this
week's
meeting
as
well,
so
that
you
have
that
to
review.
Chair
thorson
had
had
mentioned
that
to
me
earlier,
so
we
were
going
to
make
sure
that
that
was
taken
care
of.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
L
And
I
I
if,
if
it's
in
the
packet-
and
I
in
am
pulling
that
down
from
the
city
website
now,
then
I
can
do
that
on
my
my
personal,
laptop
and
print
it
off,
but
some
of
those
things
at
least
I
like
to
to
have
a
hard
copy,
I'm
fine
with
printing
my
own,
but
it
has
to
be
given
to
us
in
a
way
that
can
where
that
can
happen.
L
So
if
it
goes
directly
into
granicus
or
something
like
that,
it'd
be
a
problem,
but
in.
L
Well,
I'm
just
talking
about
normal
procedure.
I
I
have
as
long
as
I
can
get
it
from
the
city
website
into
my
own
computer.
Then
I
can
print
it,
but
I
can't
print
directly
from
my
ipad
into
my
either
of
my
printers
just
an
fyi.
Thank
you.