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Description
Housing and Redevelopment Authority Meeting
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The
loan
terms
we
brought
him
down
from
40
year
deferred
to
30-year
deferred
for
cdbg
in
neighborhood
and
for
help,
instead
of
it
being
a
40-year
deferred
loan.
It
is
forgiven
after
three
years
of
continued
occupancy,
considering
it's
for
emergency
purposes,
income
limits
I
misspoke.
At
the
last
meeting,
it
was
verified
that
household
size
that
income
is
adjusted
for
household
size,
so
80
percent
ami
are
below
for
cdbg,
80
ami
or
below.
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For
that
program.
Asset
limit.
We
increase
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
asset
limit
for
all
three
programs,
but
it
does
exclude
deferred
compensation
and
one
vehicle
per
adult
in
the
household,
so
those
would
not
be
can
taken
into
consideration
when,
when
considering
assets,
we
are
removing
the
equity
match
that
is
currently
in
place.
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So
the
equity
match
says
that
if
you
want
to
borrow
ten
thousand
dollars
to
do
work,
you
would
need
to
have
at
least
ten
thousand
dollars
of
your
home
of
equity
in
your
home,
and
the
question
that
was
answered
was
that
how
would
we
make
sure
to
secure
our
loans?
And
that
is
because
the
combined
loan
to
value
so
our
loan
and
any
other
debt
on
the
house
does
not
exceed
100
percent
loan
to
value
exclusions,
age,
55,
plus
or
on
a
fixed
income
as
a
primary
source
will
be
excluded
from
the
equity
limits.
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They
would
have
to
be
referred
by
building
inspections,
environmental
health
or
have
a
red
flag
heating
in
our
electrical
system
by
a
utility
company,
so
that
would
be
contacting
the
hra
if
they
have
that
red
flagged
system.
That's
contacting
the
hra
and
saying
I
need
to
complete
this
and
or
contacting
environmental
health,
which
is
also
who
would
might
know
those
ahead
of
time,
and
so
with
those
changes.
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Thank
you,
chair
lewis
and
commissioner
beloga
could
be,
but
in
the
last
six
years
they
could
have
took
out
another
mortgage
and
they
might
not
have
the
same
amount
of
equity.
They
could
have
did
something
else,
but
if
it's
very
simple
that
maybe
in
2015,
they
bought
a
property
for
300
000
and
they
get
an
appraisal
now
mind.
Your
appraisals
are
about
a
year
behind.
They
get
an
appraisal
now
and
they've
been
making
regular
payments,
not
doubling
up
or
anything
like
that,
making
regular
payments
they
potentially
could
be
at
30
percent
or
30
000.
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If
you
have
a
suggestion
on
how
we
should
adjust
it,
the
one
thing
we
did
at
our
previous
meeting
was:
we
tried
to
be
very
specific
about.
We
wanted
what
we
wanted
to
see
in
the
program.
The
program
changes
that
we
wanted
to
see.
So,
commissioner,
baloga.
What
in
your
mind,
would
you
recommend
for
that?
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Because
here
again
we
can
continue
to
discuss
it,
but
I
I
think
we
need
to
have
an
idea
of
what
we're
shooting
for
well,
if
you're
uncomfortable
with
that,
I'm
not
trying
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out.
How
would
you
what
would
you
have
a
suggestion
on
how
we
could
improve
that
or
change
that,
so
you
would
be
comfortable
with
it.
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I'm
now
questioning
the
30
000,
though,
which
doesn't
sound
as
much-
and
I
don't
know
if,
for
commissioner
beloga,
if
it's
really
the
percentage
or
if
it's
the
the
dollar
amount,
but
thirty
thousand
dollars
does
seem
pretty
low
and
what
was
staff's
thought
about
kind
of
thirty
twenty
percent.
You
know
twenty
thousand
thirty
percent.
You
know
having
that
them
correlate
in
that
way.
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Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
commissioner
thorson.
It
was
just
continuity
of
numbers.
There
was
not
just
so.
There
wasn't
confusion.
You
know
there's
a
two.
Instead
of
saying
20,
40
000,
you
know
just
30
of
300
000
is
30
000,
I'm
sorry
it's
90
dollars,
so
it's
thirty
percent
or
thirty
thousand.
Whichever
is
greater.
So
it's
not.
Whichever
is
lesser,
whichever
is
greater.
So
if
you
have
thirty
percent
of
equity
in
your
three
thousand
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
home,
you
can't
go
over
30,
so
29
you
can't
go
over
it.
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I'm
wondering
if
without
opening
up
a
can
of
worms,
if
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
some
statement
somewhere,
I'm
not
sure
I'll
agree
with
this
myself,
but
the
the
concept
of
of
if
there
are
unusual
circumstances
like
we've,
recently
gone
through
the
impact
of
of
of
covid
coming
along,
and
we
do
have
some
precedent
for
making
adjustments
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
I
think
right.
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delegation
to
the
hra
administrator
and
some
of
the
items
in
the
manual,
but
also
in
the
manual
it
states.
This
manual
is
subject
to
modification
or
amendment
at
any
time
to
ensure
that
the
provisions
contained
herein
conform
to
the
requirements
of
the
cdbg
program,
applicable
state
law
and
all
official
interpretation
thereof.
The
hra
may
also
make
other
changes
to
this
manual
at
any
time
to
update
dates
or
for
other
minor
updating.
This
manual
is
subject
to
review
and
updating
from
time
to
time
by
the
hra
board.
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This
is
just
more
of
just
a
comment
number
one.
First
and
foremost,
thank
you
for
all
the
work
and
thanks
to
the
board
for
all
the
work.
I
know
we've
worked
a
long
time
on
this
and
I'm
gonna
bring
up
something
that
is
shows
my
ignorance
a
little
bit
here
with
the
interest
rate.
I
learned
something
new
this
weekend
that
there's
a
specific
culture,
the
muslim
culture
that
does
not
they
cannot
pay
interest.
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So
I'm
just
curious
because
we've
talked
about
you
know
per
certain
exceptions,
and
I
understand
why
we
want
to
gain
interest
because
that
helps
pay
back
that
loan,
but
that
does
kind
of
exclude
a
specific
community.
So
is
there
a
way
that
we're
handling
that?
I
guess
since
I
I
do
know-
we
can
do
case
by
case
so
due
to
religious.
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Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
and
commissioner
huhim.
No
and
part
of
that
is
the
religious
exclusions
are
not
in
there
and
it's
so
this.
These
programs,
as
proposed
the
only
one
that
is
sharia
compliant,
is
help,
and
so
the
one
of
the
things
that
staff.
So
my
myself,
as
well
as
mr
hartman
as
well
as
staff,
talked
about.
If
we
eliminate
interest,
what
do
we
do
for
all
of
the
people
that
have
previously
taken
out
loans?
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Yes,
thank
you,
chair
lewis.
It
would
actually
be
a
motion
to
approve
the
manual
and
the
guidelines
amending
the
language
to
for
clarity
for
borrowers,
age,
55
and
older,
being
exempt
from
property
equity
limits,
or
borrowers
earn
a
fixed
income
as
primary
source
of
income
being
exempt
from
property
equity
limits.
All.
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Thank
you,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
commissioners
for
all
of
the
hard
work
they
did
on
this
and
also
administrator
coleman
and
all
of
her
staff.
I
think
what
we
and
I
think
the
end
product
was
really
good.
So
thank
you.
Everybody
now,
moving
on
to
item
number
5.2,
the
2022
final
hra
budget
and
tax
levy,
may
we
have
the
staff
report
please.
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Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
erica
coleman,
hr
administrator
on
september
14th.
We
presented
the
preliminary
budget
to
the
hra
board
at
that
meeting,
with
the
levy
amount
set
at
the
maximum
dollar
amount
of
two
million:
seven
hundred
eighteen
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
three
dollars
for
2022,
which
is
up
from
two
million
six
hundred
fifty
four
dollars.
Five
hundred
and
thirty
two
dollars.
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Absolutely
thank
you.
Chair
lewis,
commissioner
huhim
baker.
Tilly
has
increased
because
baker
tilly
is
being
heavily
dependent
upon
with
the
absence
of
an
economic
analyst
or
excuse
me,
hra
analyst
was
the
title:
I've
been
working
very
closely
with
baker
tilley
as
well
as
there's
been
a
lot
with
the.
G
It's
hia,
but
it's
also
the
aeon
deal
as
well
as
the
affordable,
housing
trust
fund.
The
city
took
out
bonds
for
that
and
with
covid
kind
of
impacted,
our
timeline,
and
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
restructuring
of
that
loan
with
the
bank
and
approvals
to
see
if
we
can
draw
down
later
than
december,
31
2021,
because
that
is
our
deadline
currently
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
with
baker
tilly,
but
with
just
the
increased
development
as
our
municipal
advisor
baker.
Tilley
is
why
we
increased
it.
G
What
we
have
typically
done
is
we
have
budgeted
at
200
000,
and
then
we
move
funds
and
adjust
at
the
end
of
the
year
this
year,
we're
just
proposing
the
amount
that's
closer
to
what
we
have
been
spending
without
adjusting
the
funds
later
on
which
we
might
still
do.
I
don't
want
you
to
think
you
know
not
saying
we
will,
but
we
might
so
please
be
prepared.
Thank.
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Thanks
chair
lewis,
just
a
comment:
I
personally
have
been
impressed
with
the
service
that
we've
gotten
from
baker
tilley
and
we
there's
no
question
that
in
the
last
several
years
this
bloomington
hra
has
gone
through
some
some
changes
in
direction.
You
mentioned
the
oho
housing
ordinance
and
and
just
that
one
move
with
with
aeon
was
a
real
coup.
F
I
think
in
terms
of
us
being
able
to
get
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
in
one
fell
swoop,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
time
a
lot
of
action
required
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
So
I
don't
know
if
big
overtime
was
built
into
that,
maybe
or
not,
but
I'm
I'm
impressed
with
baker
tilly
and-
and
I
think
they've
served
us
well.
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All
right,
I
think,
that's
good.
That
will
be
the
decision
by
council,
so
it
has
been
moved
by
commissioner
olson
with
the
second
by
commissioner
thorson,
to
approve
the
resolution
of
proving
memorandum
to
the
city
of
bloomington,
mayor
city,
council
and
city
manager,
recommending
changes
to
the
composition
of
the
hra
board
of
commissioners
of
the
hra.
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I
I
think
that
if
you
watch
the
city
council
meeting
last
night,
there
was
a
discussion
about
whether
or
not
council
members
as
non-voting
members
is
appropriate,
and
while
there
was
limited
discussion
on
that,
I
think
it's
an
item
that
needs
further
discussion
by
the
council.
But
I
cannot
support
that
because
I
wouldn't
either
as
a
commissioner
or
a
council
member.
A
G
Thank
you,
chair
lewis.
I
would
like
to
add
that
the
port
authority
does
have
the
seat
for
a
council
member
and
the
mayor.
They
are
seven
member
commission
and
therefore
I
think
it
would
be
something
that
could
be
discussed
that
increasing
to
seven
members.
We
could
essentially
create
a
council
member
seat,
thereby
they
would
be
a
commissioner,
but
the
term
would
be
the
term
of
a
council
member
instead
of
what
it
is
currently
where
we
have.
The
terms
are
all
five
years
and
they
may
be
filled
by
a
council
member.
G
Just
like
increasing
to
seven
members.
There
is
a
requirement
in
state
statute
that
we
must
fill
the
seat
with
a
resident
that
participates
in
the
housing
choice,
voucher
program.
We
could
change
the
bylaws
do
the
same
thing
after
increasing
to
seven
members
where
we
would
have
five
resident
members,
a
member
that
has
received
or
is
receiving
programs
through
the
hra
and
a
council
member
seat.
That
would
be
the
term
of
the
council
members
elected
office.
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G
D
B
G
In
succession
well,
therefore,
thereby
it
has
ended
up
being
that
way,
but
in
the
bylaws
it's
not
written.
That
way
is
what
I'm
saying
and
I'm
saying
write
it
that
way.
If
we
move
to
seven
members
where
it's
a
council
member
seat
right
now,
we
don't
have
council
member
seats,
we've
just
been
filling
them
with
council
members.
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G
Thank
you,
chair
lewis.
I
just
had
one
last
thing
because
it's
not
in
the
bylaws
and
because
it's
not
written
excuse
me
written
as
a
council
member's
seat.
We
advertise
two
seats
to
the
public,
and
so
residents
have
applied
under
the
understanding
that
there
are
two
seats
available,
that
they
could
apply
for,
not
that
there's
a
one
seat
available
in
a
council
member's
seat.
So
that's
the
other
thing
that
I'm
looking
at
is
that.
How
are
we
communicating
that
to
the
public
on
what's
actually
available.
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F
We
also,
and
I'm
not
going
to
put
or
put
salt
in
the
gas
tank
or
whatever
this
is,
but
I
think
that
it
would
be
good
for
us.
I
think
we've
had
business
input,
whether
or
not
it's
the
smaller
businesses
or
or
the
larger
businesses
that
we
we
interact
with
them
a
lot
when
when
they
come
forward
with
a
proposal,
but
in
terms
of
the
redevelopment
of
the
business
community
in
aging
structures,
that's
something
that
I
think
would
we
need
to
develop
a
process
for
getting
input
from
them
as
well.
F
So
back
to
the
main
issue,
I'm
saying
here
is
that
I
think
we
are.
We
are
not.
We
are
asking
for
the
the
council
to
put
this
on
their
discussion
agenda
and
I'd.
If
the
the
letter,
I
I
think,
probably
appropriately,
assumes
that
once
it's
in
their
their
court,
then
they
decide
how
they
gather
information
about
it.
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A
And
I
would
like
to
say
when
I
read
this,
I
view.
Ultimately,
I
think
the
best
thing
that
could
happen
would
be
the
ability
to
expand
us
to
seven
members.
I
look
at
the
I
want
to
say
the
item
regarding
the
city
council,
member
being
a
the
designated
liaison.
I
see
that
more
as
an
interim
solution
in
order
to
allow
two
resident
members
rather
than
just
one
resident
member,
but
you
know
that
that
is
just
the
way
I'm
looking
at
it.
A
I'm
looking
at
that
as
we
do
that,
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
get
on
the
legislative
agenda
and
I
don't
see
necessarily
why
going
to
seven
members
should
be
a
problem
and
then
I
think
that
will
take
care
of.
We
would
have
a
voting.
You
could
have
a
voting
council
member
and
that
would
take
care
of
part
of
our
issue.
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F
Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
and
I
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
regarding
a
council
member,
I
you
know
council
members
vote
on
things
that
we
vote
on
and
so
there's
there's
a
double
vote
there
in
a
sense.
But
if
it
if,
if
there
are
seven
members,
then
that's
diluted
some
but
irregardless
or
regardless
of
that.
F
A
significant
engagement
with
the
council
at
our
meetings
in
terms
of
of
answers
that
council
member
commissioner
beloga
has
has
offered
about
the
council,
is
currently
doing
this
or
currently
doing
that
or
looking
into
this,
and,
and
so
I,
I
think,
the
rewording
of
of
the
of
the.
In
fact,
I
guess
I
would
recommend
that
that
it
includes
something
about.
F
G
A
C
C
I
think
it
is
important
to
to
send
to
the
council
our
our
interest
in
seeing
the
board
expand
and
get
on
that
legislative
agenda.
It
sounds
like
the
council
is
already
discussing
different
roles
and
liaison
roles,
and
so
on.
This
is
that
the
second
one
is
not
something
I
felt
super
strongly
about.
I
see
positives
and
negatives
for
each
and,
as
we
talk
about,
you
know
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
council
members
engaged
well.
The
best
way
to
engage
them
might
be.
A
G
F
A
C
D
C
A
F
G
Coleman,
so
I
have
a
question
to
the
board.
I
would
like
some
direction
because
we
have
four
applications
for
two
seats
that
were
advertised.
Is
there
any
recommendation
or
conversation
with
the
board
about
how
to
go
about
those
applications,
because
the
city
council
changed
the
process
to
include
that
applications
would
be
received
and
then
interviews
would
be
held,
and
the
hra
is
at
the
position
of
being
able
to
make
recommendations
administrator
chair,
as
well
as
other
staff,
to
interview
those
four
applicants
and
then
make
recommendations
to
fill
the
two
vacancies
with
this
memo.
G
C
F
G
F
A
G
G
The
property
standards
are
the
standards
in
which
environmental,
health,
building
and
inspections
and
planning
have
reviewed
and
put
together
and
commented
on
that,
if
any
financing
is
going
into
a
hia
project
that
these
are
the
minimum
standards
in
which
they
must
abide
by.
So
I
wanted
to
because
this
is
a
lot
I
wanted
to
bring
it
before
you
just
so.
You
have
to
review.
D
G
G
We
increased
the
minimum
percentage
from
60.
from
60
of
all
property
owners
in
the
petition
of
support
to
apply
for
the
hia
financing
to
65
percent,
and
then
the
last
things
are
the
increase
in
the
application
fee.
The
application
fee
was
500,
all
the
other
application
fees
for
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
tiff
is
five
thousand
dollars,
and
so
the
cfo
did
ask
for
continuity,
and
so
there's
an
increase
to
five
thousand
dollars
application
fee
and
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
deposit
to
cover
city
incurred
fees,
a
city
and
or
hra
incurred
fees.
G
G
D
An
additional
item
saying
something
about
you
know:
there's
there's
the
town
home
association
that
has
applied
for
hia
that
has
been
rejected
and
continues
to
seek
definitive
reasons
and
understanding
why
they
were
rejected,
and-
and
it
really
is,
that
the
amount
of
the
loan
exceeds
the
value
of
the
you
know,
economic
value
of
the
properties
and
there's
no
clarity.
Resolution
in
this
document
to
that
set
of
circumstances,
which
may
be
a
one-time,
unique
set
of
circumstances,
at
least
hopefully
it
is,
is-
is
that
worthy
of
adding
to
this?
G
We
have
thought
about
it
and
talked
about
it,
so
one
I
have
definitely
reached
out
to
that
association
to
request
a
meeting
with
the
owners
where
there
was
a
letter
that
was
sent.
We
don't
know,
I
don't
know,
excuse
me,
I've
been
here
a
year.
I
don't
know
where
that
letter
went
if
all
the
owners
got
that
letter
and
understood
what
the
basis
was
and
there
have
been
new
owners.
G
Secondly,
they
are
more
than
eligible
to
apply
under
the
if
approved,
revised,
hia
program
and
policy.
Three
there
are
are
alternatives
that
the
city
would
consider
outside
of
the
direct
proposed
fix
that
that
association
has
so
there's
both
things
happening,
we're
trying
to
reach
out
and
contact
and
talk
to
the
owners
and
just
say,
hey.
G
F
G
A
A
C
C
G
Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
commissioner
thorson,
so
I
wanted
to
bring
it
before
the
hra
board
because
the
hra
administers
it,
but
it
is
a
silly
city
policy
and
the
authority
granted
by
the
state
statute
is
with
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
when
this
policy
was
approved
previously
it
came
before
the
hra
board,
but
it
was
approved
by
the
city,
correct
brian,
or
was
it
approved
by
hra?
It.
J
G
Which
was
a
part
of
some
of
these
revisions
was
to
better
understand
whose
role
is
where
and
so
are
there
any
recommendations?
This
was
a
part
of
the
reason
I
wanted
to
get
it
before
you,
because
do
you
have
any
thoughts
or
recommendations
or
ideas
or
things
that
you
would
like,
incorporated
or
seen
or
better
clarified.
C
A
H
A
G
So
I
would
say
this
one
has
been
and
mr
hartman
can
chime
in
because
he's
been
working
on
it.
This
one
has
been
a
lot
because
staff
was
working
on
it
before
I
got
here
and
it
really
came
down
to
city,
legal
and
city
finance
on
what
they
wanted
to
see
and
and
what
they
understood
and
what
they
knew
about
other
things
that
it
impacted
with
the
city.
So
I
think
this
one
has
been
a
really
interesting
process.
A
J
G
That
was
something
that
hra
staff
had
to
bear,
and
it
was
quite
a
bit
and
now,
with
these
changes,
removing
some
of
that
heavy
lift
off
of
the
hra
staff
to
someone
that
is
specialized
in
that
area
to
work
dedicated
on
that
project,
because
the
hra
staff
could
have
more
than
one
project
of
hia
at
a
time
as
well
as
other
staff
do
other
duties.
So
that
is
also
a
big
change
here.
F
I
I
G
G
I
G
F
And
I
don't
know
that
it
means
anything
other,
but
if
the
council
adopts
normally
this,
as
commissioner
thorson
mentioned
it's
backwards,
because
normally
we
make
a
recommendation
to
the
city
and
then
they
respond
and
and
it's
a
done
deal
because
they
have
more
power
than
we
do.
You
know
and
that's
appropriate,
so
the
adoption
is
done.
Why
would
it
come
back
to
us,
except
as
information.
G
So
that
is
me
trying
and
probably
the
execution
is
off
when
I
looked
at
this
before
there
was
nothing
that
said
the
there
was
like
there
was
no
resolution.
That
said,
the
hra
approved
this
policy.
What
I,
what
I
was
able
to
see
was
the
policy
was
proposed
with
a
demonstration
project,
so
it
wasn't
the
policy
by
itself.
A
C
G
I
would
have
to
check
with
the
cfo
the
city
manager
and
the
executive
leadership
team,
because
this
is
something
that
is
being
asked
has
been
asked
for
and
followed
and
with
the
budgetary
process
and
the
council's
agenda
that's
already
set.
I
don't
know
what
the
implications
would
be
if
it
doesn't
go
forward,
as
it
is
already
planned
on
the
agenda
next
monday.
A
A
Could
recommend
changes
that
we
if
we
wanted
them,
but
we
would
not
be
able
to
set
policy,
because
that
would
be
done
by
the
council
on
this
particular
program
that
it's
a
city
program,
so
they
said
policy,
so
I
understand
we're
being
asked
to
review
it,
but
we
don't.
We
essentially
don't
approve
it.
Yes,
commissioner,
olsen.
F
F
F
This,
like
you,
said
for
years,
would
end
up
having
a
study
session
with
us
and
say
this
is
the
big
framework
that
we
are
looking
at
and
we
want
you
to
be
aware
and
agree
with
with
that
direction
as
we
go
forward,
not
that
we
we
can
stop
the
whole
thing,
because
obviously
the
city
council
is
is
part
of
that
process
too.
But
it's
just
another
example
of
where.
A
A
It
does
affect
the
hra
and
because
of
that,
it
does
feel
like
it's
a
little
backwards,
because
it's
like
okay,
you
can
read
this,
but
then
the
city
council
will
approve
it
and
if
you
it'll
come
back
to
us-
and
we
may
not
agree
with
everything
that
they
have
approved,
but
I
think
it
does
come
down
to
just
getting
the
hra's
input.
I
guess
this
has
kind
of
gone
to
a
slightly
higher
different
level.
A
What
I'm
discussing
now,
but
what
commissioner
olsen
said
there
are
times
when
it
feels
like
we're
not
being
asked
what
we
feel
is
appropriate
as
important
as
far
as
like
a
program
coming
through
and
then
somewhere
down
the
line,
we're
asked
to
approve
it
or
we're
asked
to
okay.
This
is
what
you
have
now.
You
can
change
it.
D
G
G
I
J
D
G
D
A
F
I'm
wondering
if
it
would
be
productive
and
maybe
timely,
relatively
soon
to
request
the
city
manager
and
mayor,
for
example,
to
spend
some
time
with
us
talking
about
how
they
perceive
the
hra
in
terms
of
the
role
in
the
overall
thing
and
how
we
fit
into
the
the
huge
operation.
That
is
a
city
government.
F
F
And
it
might
be
that
that
I
believe
that
the
hra
has
by
statute
more
authority
than
than
what
the
city
seems
to
be
giving
us.
But
I
I'm
open
to
how
that
would
shake
out.
But
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if,
because
the
mayor
and
the
and
the
city
manager
are
are
so
instrumental
in
how
operations
happen,
that
20
minutes
or
something
that
they
do,
a
presentation
in
some
dialogue
or
whatever.
G
So
dialogue,
so,
commissioner
olson,
I
will
say
from
my
limited
time
here
my
understanding.
My
perception
is
that
one,
the
hra
is
a
separate
entity
right
and
has
operated
as
such
with
the
passage
and
the
adoption
of
the
oho
and
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
is
where
a
lot
of
this
has
started
to
be
created
where
it's.
G
Where
is
the
hra's
role,
when
the
hra
operated
as
a
completely
separate
entity
over
the
programs
that
we're
still
over,
and
we
still
do
there
wasn't
as
much
confusion
now
with
the
oh
being
a
city
ordinance,
but
the
the
administration
of
it's
with
this
the
hra
and
who
makes
what?
Who
says
what
who
that's
where
I
think
this
is
starting
to
come
in
because
and
I'm
hearing
the
same
thing
with
hia,
and
so
I
think
this
is
fairly
newer
and
more
of
an
understanding
as
the
city
is
growing.
G
Where
do
we
all
fit
and
how
do
we
all
do
it?
How
do
we
do
development,
and
this
is
a
development?
How
do
we
do
development,
which
is
an
assessment
that
will
be
coming?
That
includes
the
hra,
the
port
authority,
because
they
have
there's
some
questions
there
too,
and
the
city.
How
do
we
do
development?
And
I
think
that
a
part
of
that
assessment
will
be
better
defining
roles
and
understanding
and
bringing
that
information
back.
F
Yeah
I
mean
if
we're,
if
we're
going
to
be
working
with
somebody
on
such
a
regular
basis
as
the
hra
administrator
shouldn't,
we
have
some
input
into
the
kind
of
qualities
that
we're
looking
for.
You
know
way
back
at
that
stage
and
I
think
there's
been
some
improvement
with
that,
but
that's
that's
not
another
example
of
of
what
I
refer
to
as
an
identity
issue.
Okay,
well,.
E
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
summarize
kind
of
what
I've
heard
and
what
I
kind
of.
I
guess
more
of
what
I
feel
and
I
I
agree
with
people
on
the
fact
that
it
would
it
would
be
nice
to.
I
think
it
helps
the
city
council
too,
when
we
recommend
something
I
do
think
that
they
take
the
hra
board
and
the
hra
staff
in
their
recommendations
very
seriously,
and
I
mean
that
is
why
we
have
boards
and
commissions
right.
E
So
I
do
think
that,
just
in
the
future
that
we
can
you
know
it's
not
saying
that
we're
approving
it
we're
just
to
have
that
recommendation.
I
don't
think
anybody
right
now
feels
that
we
can.
We've
had
that
time
to
make
that
recommendation,
and
I
do
think
that's
just
the
important
part
of
the
process-
that's
missing
and
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
hearing.
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
summarize
maybe,
and
hopefully
we
can
now
move
on,
but
just
just
state
that
I
do
think
our
recommendation
does
have
impact
and
and
also
on
that,
just
to
quickly
say
that
then
I
do
feel
like.
Then
we
have
that
opportunity
to
attend
the
council
meeting
and
show
our
support
as
well
in
person
and
or
via.
You
know,
online
and
stuff,
like
that.
I
think
that
that's
very
important
as
well,
so
I
do
appreciate
this
information
ahead
of
time.
A
A
And
as
far
as
commissioner
olson's
comments,
maybe
down
the
road,
we
could
do
some
kind
of
a
study
session
where
we
could
have
more
people
from
the
city,
whether
it's
the
city
manager
or
the
mayor,
and
we
could
sit
down
in
a
study
session
and
talk,
and
you
know
kind
of
find
out
where
we
all
fit,
because
I
think
everybody
has
their
own
ideas
where
we
fit
and
I
find
as
a
board.
We
become
much
more
active
and
because
of
that,
we're
now
what
we
want
to
be
more
involved.
A
D
So
in
hearing
all
the
comments
which
I
concur
with,
would
it
be
appropriate
for
me?
Would
it
be
the
will
of
this
commission
to
ask
consul
on
the
meeting
of
next
monday
to
table
this
item
to
allow
for
further
review
by
the
hra
board
of
commissioners
so
that
we
can
provide
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
at
that
time?.
C
A
G
A
A
G
Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
annually
the
hra
enters
into
a
staff
services.
Agreement
attached
for
review
is
the
draft
agreement
for
2022
that
is
currently
going
through
city
legal
review.
It
has
gone
through
hra,
general
counsel,
review
and
the
agreement
sets
forth
the
terms
and
conditions
for
staffing
the
hra.
G
A
G
Correct,
thank
you,
commissioner
olson.
So
you're
right,
it
doesn't
necessarily
call
it
out
in
the
staff
services
agreement.
The
assessment
for
how
we
do
development
will
bring
about
some
of
that
information,
as
well
as
just
regular
review
and
updates
to
work
and
duties,
and
just
looking
at
that
with
staff.
G
We
would
look
at
that
for
the
hra.
If,
if
I
would
like
to
change
staff
classification
or
and
create
a
new
position,
I
go
through
the
city's
process
of
asking
for
reclassification
with
the
hr
with
community
development
director
with
city
legal
excuse,
me,
city,
finance,
city,
legal
hr,
city
manager.
Excuse
me
as
well
as
in
any
change
to
new
staff.
All
of
that
goes
through
the
city's
process.
So
right
now
we're
just
looking
at
the
workload
that
has
been
increased
due
to
the
oho
and
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
F
H
F
A
G
Yes,
annually,
the
hra
approves
an
agreement
for
legal
services,
with
a
scope
of
work
providing
for
general
counsel
that
working
under
the
direction
of
the
authority
shall
perform
in
prompt,
professional
and
competent
manner,
all
necessary
legal
services
that
are
requested
by
the
authority
this
past
year.
Our
general
counsel
have
been
very
instrumental
in
the
assistance
of
administration,
negotiation
and
program
revisions
amongst
other
services.
G
A
C
I
don't
know
that
we
stayed
at
a
time
frame
or
set
every
year,
go
out
to
bid
so
to
speak,
and
I
think
you've
worded
it
very
well
in
terms
of
the
importance
of
this
particular
legal
council
and
how
much
they
become
a
part
and
understanding
how
things
work
here.
So
I'm
not
necessarily
disagreeing
with
it.
C
But
I
think
that
you
know,
for
the
citizens
also
need
to
know
that
the
the
city
is
puts
these
things
out,
for
you
know
rfp
periodically,
and
I'm
just
wondering
how
other
board
members
feel
about
the
two-year
term
versus
the
one
again.
I
completely
understand
you
put
it
very
well
how
important
this
council
has
been
to
past
projects
and
really
how
what
a
great
job
they're
doing,
they're
very
diligent,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
their
processes
to
periodically
reevaluate
those
kinds
of
things.
C
G
G
It
is
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
and
the
information
there
and
working
with
baker,
tilley
and
the
city.
It
is
projects
that
we
know
should
be
coming
on
board
that
the
general
council
is
already
working
on
and
the
fact
that
the
projects
coming
on
board
that
we
have
not
approved,
but
we
have
received
application,
wouldn't
even
be
done
until
2023.
G
So
it's
just
considering
all
the
different
work,
but
the
biggest
factor
is
the
expertise
of
hra,
not
just
us,
but
hras
and
phas
specifically,
and
mr
hartman
can
chime
in.
I
don't
know
how
we
would
convey
how
much
expertise
we
need
through
an
rfp,
because
I
know
you
have
previously
thought
about
this.
J
Chair
lewis,
commissioners,
I
mean
just
as
a
a
reference.
The
the
prior
general
counsel
was
held
by
the
hra
for
over
30
years,
and
I
think
everybody
is
in
agreement
that
you
know
a
pure
addict.
Our
pre-process
would
be
superior
to
that,
but
we
were
well
served
by
that
general
counsel.
I
do
believe,
but
yes,
I
mean
gentle
question
administrator
coleman.
J
It
is
a
very
complicated
world
of
the
of
the
hra
and
it
requires
a
level
of
expertise
that
is
not
found
in
every
law
firm
and
to
convey
that
in
through
an
rfp
process
can
be
very
challenging.
You
know
our
council
is
not
only
represents
us,
but
other
housing
authorities
throughout
the
state,
and
I
think
we
are
very
well
served
by
that
expertise
in
this
particular
area,
especially
as
it
comes
to
development.
A
E
Thank
you
chair
when
speaking
about
the
staff
services,
and
just
all
of
that
I
just
was-
it
came
to
my
head
of
just
being
able
to
really
maybe
recognize
staff.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
some
staff
maybe
come
to
a
meeting,
so
we
could
have
them
here
and
thank
them
personally.
Personally,
I
would
like
to
thank
them
for
their
time
and
dedication
and
hard
work,
not
just
over
tv.
E
I
understand
that
they
have
they
work
long
days
and
coming
to
a
meeting
might,
but
if
we
could
put
them
number
one
on
the
on
the
agenda
and
just
kind
of
you
know
recognize
them,
because
I
know
with
covet:
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
probably
seen
faces-
and
I
just
think
for
me-
it
would
just
be
nice
to
just
kind
of
put
faces
to
names
and
just
be
able
to
recognize
them
for
their
hard
work
within
the
hra.
If
that
would
be
something
we
could
do.