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A
C
B
B
E
A
Thank
you.
Moving
on
to
item
number
two,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
questions
or
additions
to
the
agenda
that
anyone
has.
A
B
A
Moving
on
to
number
three
on
our
agenda
approval
of
the
minutes
of
june
8,
2021
hra
commission
meeting:
are
there
any
additions
for
corrections
to
the
minutes
hearing?
None.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
june
8th
2021.
D
A
A
F
Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
erica
coleman,
hr
administrator.
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
brief
update
there
on
june.
14Th
was
an
extension
to
the
executive
order
by
the
governor
and
it
was
not
denied
or
it
didn't
go
through
the
process
to
be
not
approved
by
both
chambers
of
the
legislature,
so
it
is
standing.
F
However,
there
is
a
an
agreement
that
has
not
been
completely
approved
as
far
as
going
through
the
legislative
bodies
that
has
been
said
to
have
an
agreement
for
the
eviction
ramp
ramp
down,
which
has
been
one
of
the
primary
focuses
of
extending
the
executive
order.
F
Once
I
get
more
information
from
it,
secondly,
as
it
was
communicated
before,
there
is
an
expectation
that
once
the
executive
order
ends-
and
there
is
a
return
to
in-person
meetings-
that
there
is
an
up
to
60-day
time
frame
from
the
date
that
the
executive
order
ends
that
if
there
is
a
need
for
a
commissioner
to
meet
at
another
location
or
be
hybrid
in
terms
of
being
virtual,
it
will
need
to
be
noticed
properly
and
it
will
have
to
be
approved
through
a
medical
necessity.
F
F
A
Hearing
none
and
as
this
was
just
an
information
discussion,
only
item
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
item
move
on
to
old
business
and
it's
going
to
be
not
item
5.1
home
ownership
options
for
hra
owned
lots.
May
we
have
the
staff
report
please.
G
Good
evening,
commissioners,
brian
hartman
hra
program
manager.
Tonight
we
have
an
item
brought
back
to
you.
At
a
previous
hra
commission
meeting,
we
had
presented
the
an
item
to
price
the
lot
that
the
atria
owns
at
90
30
park,
avenue
south
at
120
000
after
discussion
with
the
commissioner.
We
staff
was
directed
to
bring
back
additional
options
for
the
use
of
this
lot
or
the
sale
of
this
lot,
and
we
have
provided
tonight
a
chart
of
different,
affordable
housing
developers
and
options
for
this
lot
and
we'll
walk
through
that
with
you.
G
First
on
the
list
is
twin
cities,
habitat
for
humanity,
as
most
of
the
commissioners
know,
I'm
sure
we've
had
a
long,
20
or
plus
year
relationship
with
twin
cities
habitat
and
have
sold
them
several
lots
over
the
years
to
develop
single
and
double
homes,
for
sale
to
low
moderate
income,
families
and
first-time
home
buyers.
They
ensure
long-term
affordability
of
these
homes
by
placing
covenants
on
the
property
and
on
so
the
resale
has
to
be
to
another
lower
moderate
income
family
at
recent
tally.
G
We've
done
about
17
projects
with
habitat
over
the
the
long-term
association
with
the
hra.
Typically,
we
sell
the
property
at
a
reduced
cost
somewhere
between
30
to
50
thousand
dollars,
has
kind
of
been
the
typical
sale
price
to
habitat,
and
so
the
hra
does
assist
the
project
by
writing
down
the
cost
of
the
land.
The
most
recent
one
that
I'm
sure
you
remember
is
the
house
that
was
constructed
on
the
north
west
corner
of
xerxes
at
old
shakopee
road,
so
that
was
completed
last
year.
G
The
other
up
option
we've
presented
tonight
is
the
west
hennepin,
affordable,
housing,
land
trust
walt.
They
do
business
as
homes
with
in
reach
or
hwr,
and
their
model
is
to
acquire
existing
homes
on
the
private
market
and
do
whatever
rehab
is
necessary
to
the
home
and
then
resell
the
home
only
not
including
the
land.
Only
the
home
itself
to
a
low,
moderate
income,
first-time
homebuyer,
the
reduction
in
not
including
the
land,
helps
reduce
the
price.
G
They
also
do
receive
grants
from
other
entities
such
as
hennepin
county,
hud,
etc,
to
write
down
the
purchase
price
of
that
home
to
make
it
affordable,
since
they
retain
ownership
of
the
land
that
ensures
long-term
affordability.
They
have
a
99
year
lease
on
the
land,
so
it's
a
very
long
term
affordability
period,
probably
the
largest
of
any
out
there.
At
present,
we've
been
working
with
them
for
about
five
years
and
we
contribute
through
the
cdbg
program,
75
000
per
project
and
we've
done
about
seven
homes
in
total.
G
G
They
do
a
variety
of
things
across
the
metro
primarily
focused
in
minneapolis,
but
they
have
been
expanding
into
the
suburbs.
The
project
we
did
most
recently
with
them
we've
only
done
one.
It
was
back
in
2005..
G
This
was
at
102nd
nicklet,
where
we
had
acquired
several
substandard
single-family
homes,
which
we
removed
and
created
a
cul-de-sac
and
were
able
to
develop
seven
brand
new
homes
for
first-time
homebuyers,
with
a
partnership
with
ppl
and
also
hennepin
county
there's,
a
second
mortgage
on
the
houses
to
help
buy
down
the
purchase
price
and
they
were
sold
through
a
lottery
system
because
there
was
such
demand
at
that
time,
and
the
last
opportunity
we
have
put
out
here
is
a
request
for
proposal
idea.
G
This
would
be
where
the
hra
would
develop
criteria
for
the
sale
of
a
lot
and
proposals
from
non-profit
and
for-profit
developers
that
would
meet
the
criteria
that
we
define
and
this
could
be,
such
as
serving
low
and
moderate
income
homebuyer,
ensuring
long-term
affordability
and
of
any
other
details
that
the
hra
would
like
to
include
in
that
rfp
process.
G
And,
of
course
the
option
not
listed
here
is
the
original
one,
where
we
would
price
the
lot
and
resell
it
to
a
a
builder
and
or
a
home
buyer
to
build
a
single
family
home
to
occupy
on
that
property.
So
at
this
point
we'll
stand
for
questions
and
provide
any
other
information
you
might
desire.
D
Good
evening,
brian
thanks
for
the
work
you've
done
here,
one
of
the
the
discussions
that
we
had
was
is
establishing
our
own,
affordable
housing,
land
trust,
and
I
see
that's
not
one
of
the
options
that's
been
investigated.
Can
you
tell
me
what
caused
that
to
be
discarded.
G
One
of
the
ideas
that
we
came
up
with
regarding
that
was
exploring
our
current
relationship
with
the
land,
trust
that
we
are
presently
working
with
to
see
if
they
would
be
willing
to
enter
into
a
new
construction
model.
G
The
prior
executive
director
at
homes
within
reach
was
not
open
to
that
idea,
but
there
has
been
a
change
in
leadership
after
her
retirement,
and
we
would
think
that
that
would
be
a
good
way
to
explore
that
option
without
having
to
set
up
the
administrative
and
other
things
that
would
be
necessary
to
set
that
up
as
a
separate
activity
of
the
hra.
D
G
A
All
right
is
there.
E
A
chair
chair
lewis,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Well,
with
the
information
of
hennepin,
county,
west
hemp
and
affordable
land
trust,
I
would
my
preference
would
be
is
to
continue
to
work
with
them.
One
of
the
items
that
I
would
like
to
see
altered
is
is
our
contribution
to
building.
D
You
know
to
the
in
addition
to
the
land
being
contributed,
I'm
I'm
finding
it
a
bit
expensive
to
add
a
buy
down
to.
D
A
Okay,
all
right
is:
is
there
direction
for
mr
hartman?
Do
we
want
something
to
come
back
to
us
to
look
at
this
again,
since
we
still
have
that
property?
H
You
chair,
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
agree
with
commissioner
beloga
with
the
hennepin
county,
land
trust
and
I
also
agree
with
if
we
could
maybe
work
something
out
with
that
buy
down,
as
he
called
it.
So
maybe
looking
into
that
and
bringing
some
more
information
back
on
that
one,
I
really
lead
more
towards
something
where
we
can
work
with,
like
a
land
trust
to
make
keep
this
affordable
and
keep
it
affordable
as
long
as
possible.
So.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
other
comments
from
any
of
the
other
customers,
because,
yes,
commissioner
thorson,
I.
E
A
question
for
brian:
I
would
imagine
that
by
listing
the
lot
traditionally
and
getting
it
out
there
as
an
option
to
sell
it
outright,
doesn't
preclude
us
from
working
with
any
of
our
other
partners.
E
So
some
of
these
might
be
longer
term
issues
to
work
out.
But
if
the
lot
is
listed,
this
this
board
always
has
the
option
of
approving
or
not
approving
or
even
directing
what
kind
of
home
or
what
kind
of
partnership
is
involved
in
this.
So
is
any
any
reason
not
to
list
it
as
one
of
our
options
to
continue
to
to
pursue
a
partnership
as
well.
G
We
certainly
could
do
that.
One
concern
I
would
have
is
if
we
list
the
lot,
what
we're
saying
is
that
we
are
ready
to
sell
it,
and
I
I
would
not
want
to
present
an
option
to
somebody
and
then
pull
it
back,
because
we
have
decided
to
do
something
else.
Does
that
make
sense?
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
commission
is
comfortable
with
listing
the
lot
for
sale
and
the
if
adequate
offer
is
presented,
that
it
would
be
accepted.
I
I
I
want
to
point
out
my
recollection
is
that
when
we
had
this
discussion-
and
it's
leading
to
this
discussion
is,
is
that
we
want
to
strategize
as
an
hra,
how
we
can
help
preserve,
affordable
housing
that
goes
on
the
market,
for
those
who
are
needing
some
kind
of
financial
assistance
to
do
so,
and
so
I
think,
in
terms
of
responding
to
this
particular
one,
I
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
of
our
desire.
I
I
believe
it
was
our
pretty
universal
desire
to
to
to
strategize
into
the
future
beyond
just
just
this
one.
So
I
I
agree
with
what
jack
baloga
and
others
have
have
indicated
in
terms
of
the
specific
question,
but
somehow
or
another.
We
need
to
keep
this
on
our
on
our
plate
until
we
come
up
with
our
own
trust
or
something
like
that.
A
All
please
what
I'm
hearing
tonight
then
do
we
want
to
move
to
as
far
as
as
far
as
the
sale
of
the
property
that
really
instigated
this
item,
do
we
want
to
move
that
we
wait
to
put
that
on
the
market
until
mr
hartman
has
had
more
time
to
look
at
you
know,
establishing
a
lion,
trust
or
working
with
walt.
I
Thank
you
I
I
would
be
inclined
to
to
suggest
we
wait
until
we
explore
the
possibilities
for
this
one.
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
there's
reasons
that
people
would
bring
forward
about,
why
it's
important
to
move
rather
quickly,
and
so
I
would
make
a
motion
but
would
need
some
direction
from
mr
hartman
as
to
how
how
long
a
time
he
would
need
to
do
that.
G
Sure,
just
to
clarify
what
I
I
think,
I'm
hearing
is
that
you're
asking
staff
to
reach
out
to
homeless
within
reach,
to
explore
the
possibility
of
partnering
with
them
and
or
establishing
an
hra
land
trust.
And
we
certainly
can
do
that
and
bring
back
that
more
detailed
information
about
what
the
land
trust
could
or
could
not
do
with
us.
And
what
that
would
look
like
for
establishing
one
within
the
city.
G
I
I
don't
know
if
we
necessarily
need
a
motion
because
the
we
we're
not
listing
the
property
so
we'll
we'll
come
back
to
you.
I
would
say
by
the
end
of
july,.
A
Okay
is
that
are
the
commissioners
comfortable
with
that?
I
think
if
mr
hartman
thinks
that
will
work,
I'm
comfortable
with
it.
A
Hearing
hearing
nothing
to
the
negative,
then
that
would
be
what
we
want
to
do
with
this
item.
So,
mr
hartman,
if
you
could
look
into
that
and
then
bring
it
back
in
july,
that'd
be
great.
A
A
All
right
so
well,
I'm
just
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you,
then,
if
you
would
like
to
give
basically
your
report
sure.
J
I
will
do
that
thanks
for
the
introduction.
My
name
is
jim
miketon,
I'm
with
the
mmkr
cpas,
I'm
the
auditor
for
the
city
of
bloomington,
as
well
as
the
housing
and
redevelopment
authority
of
the
city
of
bloomington,
I'm
here
this
evening
to
provide
a
audit
presentation
for
this
year
in
my
powerpoint.
If
you
continue
to
the
next
slide,
whoever's
helping
me
out
here.
Thank
you
for
that.
You'll
see
that
the
role
of
the
auditor
is
to
provide
an
opinion
on
the
financial
statements
of
the
hra.
J
It
is
a
requirement
in
state
law
that
the
hra
have
a
annual
financial
statement
prepared.
It
is
prepared,
in
conjunction
with
the
city's
financial
statement.
It
is
the
city's
financial
statement
is
about
230
pages
long
and
part
of
that
is
the
components
of
the
housing
and
redevelopment
authority,
which
is
considered
a
component
unit
of
the
city.
J
So
the
office
of
the
state
auditor
in
the
state
of
minnesota
guides
the
other
audit
requirements
as
as
it
relates
to
this,
and
that
includes
the
testing
of
the
hra's
internal
controls,
as
well
as
your
compliance
with
laws
and
regulations
that
relate
to
financial
reporting.
You
know
we're
really
not
auditing.
All
of
the
controls,
just
those
that
relate
to
the
financial
reporting
activities
of
the
hra.
J
We're
also
required,
then,
to
issue
an
opinion
down
your
compliance
with
legal
laws
in
the
state
of
minnesota
that
relate
to
the
hra.
Those
particular
laws
are
guided
by
the
office
of
the
state
auditor.
Again
they
give
us
a
list
of
the
laws
that
we
test
and
then
we
test
for
those
compliance
and
then,
lastly,
we
are
required
to
complete,
what's
called
the
single
audit
of
federal
awards
if
the
hra
were
to
receive
more
than
750
000
of
federal
awards,
and
certainly
that
is
the
case
for
you.
J
So
on
the
next
slide,
you'll
see
the
various
opinions
and
the
findings
that
were
issued
for
this
year.
The
financial
report,
as
I
mentioned,
was
we
were
able
to
issue
what's
classified
as
an
unmodified
opinion
on
that
financial
statements.
Another
modified
opinion
is
a
clean
opinion.
It
was
the
opinion
you
were
looking
for
so
no
concerns
with
the
with
regard
to
the
financial
reporting.
J
The
city
does
complete,
what's
called
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report
and
they
do
submit
that
for
achievement
in
excellence
for
excellence
in
financial
reporting
each
year.
So
that's
a
very
positive
item
for
the
city.
As
you
see
there,
we
don't.
We
do
not
have
any
findings
to
report
in
as
related
to
internal
controls
over
the
financial
reporting
or
any
of
the
laws
and
regulations
that
relate
to
that.
We
did
have
one
finding
as
it
relates
to
the
minnesota
legal
compliance
audit
that
we
completed
and
it's
related
to
collateral.
J
J
The
finding
that
were
reported
this
year
relates
to
the
fact
that
certain
deposits
were
on
hand
at
a
bank
that
exceeded
those
collateral
requirements,
as
well
as
they
exceeded
the
fdic
coverage,
which
is
an
automatic
coverage
of
any
local
bank
that
particular
particular
finding
related
from
from
a
contextual
purpose,
explaining
it
to
you
a
little
bit
the
the
finding
or
actually
relates
to
when
that
account
was
set
up
and
established.
J
The
intent
was
that
those
particular
deposits
were
going
to
be
put
in
in
the
form
of
an
investment,
and
typically,
an
investment
that
was
put
in
place
would
have
been
collateralized
appropriately,
just
by
definition
of
the
rules
and
regulations
around
investments
via
this,
the
investment
that
was
for
the
deposit
was
then
put
into
a
bank
deposit
versus
an
investment
deposit,
thus
causing
the
uncollateralized
item.
So
you
might
ask
yourself
well
what
is
the
ramification?
There
are
no
ramifications
to
this
particular
finding.
J
It
is
a
requirement
of
the
state
auditor
that
you
complete,
what's
called
a
corrective
action
plan.
The
corrective
action
plan
was
submitted
and
prepared
for
this
particular
item
and
as
part
of
the
written
corrective
action
plan,
you
will
note
that
the
corrective
action
was
completed
as
of
may
roughly
may
of
2021.
So
in
terms
of
action
items,
there
are
no
as
we
at
there
are
no
action
items
today,
as
it
relates
to
this
item,
as
it's
already
been
corrected.
J
So
lastly,
you'll
see
the
the
there
were
no
findings
in
the
single
audit
of
federal
awards,
which
is
certainly
commendable
all
the
time
frankly,
but
this
year,
most
notably
given
the
number
and
dollar
amounts
of
new
federal
monies
that
the
city,
as
well
as
the
hr
it's
getting
due
to
the
pandemic
and
with
those
requirements,
the
amount
of
regulation
that's
coming
down
to
the
federal
government
in
oversight
is,
is
extensive,
so
the
city
and
the
hra
are
doing
an
excellent
job
in
that
regard.
J
So
in
my
documents
that
you
would
find
that
were
issued
as
part
of
this
process,
we
do
talk
up
more
about
the
responsibility
of
the
auditor.
The
timing
of
the
audit
was
complete
with
your
acceptance
this
this
evening.
All
the
documents
will
be
into
the
office
of
the
state
auditor
by
june
30th,
which
is
the
deadline
for
submission,
and
then
we
do
also
provide
what's
called
formal
required
communication,
so
it
really
gives
you
an
indication
on
how
the
audit
went.
J
Everything
out
went
very
smoothly
this
year
as
part
of
the
audit
and
no
issues
or
concerns
by
me.
So
in
my
powerpoint,
we
also
then
talk
about
the
next
part
of
the
audit,
which
is
really
the
financial
results,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
financial
results.
J
If
you
go
to
the
next
one
you're
on
the
right
track,
there,
you
just
go
to
one
more
slide:
you'll
pass
that
one
there
you
go
you'll
see
in
my
reports
the
information
on
the
financial
results,
so
the
hra's
financial
results
this
year
in
terms
of
the
various
governmental
funds,
the
funds
of
the
hra.
You
can
see
the
governmental
funds
increased,
roughly
1.6
million
dollars
from
one
year
to
the
next
most
of
that
was
in
restricted
dollars,
specifically
for
tax
increments
special
revenue
funds,
which
is
more
or
less
tax.
J
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
you'll
see,
we
also
reported
on
the
hra's
enterprise
funds,
which
is
on
the
next
slide,
showing
the
financial
results
of
those
funds.
These
particular
funds.
The
enterprise
funds
includes
the
assisted
rental
fund,
as
well
as
the
property
management
fund,
which
is
quite
small.
J
These
particular
funds
did
did
have
a
decline
in
overall
unbalance
for
the
year
or
net
position
in
this
case
of
211
thousand
dollars.
Most
of
that
really
is
not
really
a
concern
really
just
the
result
of
a
pandemic
and
some
of
the
activities
that
happened
in
and
around
bell's
particular
items
so
moving
to
the
that
the
next
slide.
We
do
also
provide
a
lot
of
information
on
legislative
activity,
accounting
and
auditing
updates.
J
I
enter
my
documents
and
I'm
not
going
to
address
those
this
evening,
so
my
last
slide
does
provide
a
quick
summary
of
the
audit
results.
As
I
mentioned,
we
weren't
able
to
issue
a
clean
opinion
on
the
financial
statements
was
the
opinion
you
were
looking
for.
Certainly
that's
a
positive.
We
did
have
the
one
finding
to
report
on
collateral.
J
J
I
mentioned
the
certificate
of
achievement
and
the
improved
financial
position
overall
at
the
hra
and
lastly,
I
mentioned
the
positively
positive
nature
of
the
audit
and
and
really
just
wanted
to
give
kudos
to
the
staff
at
the
city
and
the
hra
for
their
audit
results
this
year
and
their
continuing
assessment
of
of
importance
of
financial
activities
and
the
related
controls
that
go
around.
That
particular
item.
J
So
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
to
any
questions
that
you
might
have
for
me
on
the
the
auto
results
for
the
year.
A
D
You
sorry
for
being
too
too
far
off
wrong
on
that
one.
I
Thank
you.
I
just
wanna,
I'm
aware
observing
people
from
audits
in
the
past
who
are
in
in
civic
plaza
and
if,
if
mr
eggton
could
just
give
a
rough
idea
of
a
number
of
people,
an
approximate
number
of
hours,
so
that
viewers
are
aware
of
how
thorough
this
audit
checking
of
how
we
do
handle
our
money
is,
and
that
could
be
combined
for
city
nhra
or
just
hra.
J
J
Yes,
so
we
have
a
staff
of
of
four
individuals
that
work
on
this
particular
audit,
excluding
me
for
about
a
three
week
period
of
time.
They
in
total,
put
about
a
thousand
hours
into
to
auditing
the
the
city
collectively,
the
out
of
all
the
man
hours
that
go
into
it
at
varying
varying
levels.
Some
are
done.
Some
of
those
others
are
done
on
site,
so
some
are
done
on
site
at
the
actual
hra
offices
and
city
offices,
and
some
are
done
remotely
as
we
did
this
year.
J
But
that
gives
you
some
sort
of
context
as
to
how
many
hours
you
put
into
looking
into
various
details.
I
Thank
you
a
brief,
but
helpful
answer.
Yeah.
A
H
Thank
you
chair
just
one
little
recommendation
in
the
future,
possibly
I
believe
in
these
audits.
I
believe
that
we
have
a
great
firm
working
on
this.
H
As
someone
who
has
worked
on
audits
before
I
do
know
how
intense
they
can
be,
but
I
just
a
suggestion
that,
could
we
maybe
next
year
make
sure
that
we
put
this
towards
the
beginning
of
the
month,
because
if
there
was
any
questions
or
concerns
or
issues,
we're
really
pushing
that
deadline
of
6
30,
since
it's
like
the
22nd
right
now
to
get
changes
and
then
come
back
to
the
board.
So
just
something
to
note
for
future.
For
next
year,.
A
Good
yeah
comment
right.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
who
came
any
other
discussion
hearing
no
further
discussion.
I
will
now
call
for
a
vote
on
the
motion
to
approve
and
accept
the
2020
hra
audited
financial
statements
and
related
information.
Myra.
Can
you
take
the
roll
call
vote.
E
A
Moving
on
to
item
6.2
motion
to
approve
a
result,
let's
see
this
is
10071
penn
avenue
south
request.
May
we
have
the
staff
report
administrator
coleman.
F
So
this
is
a
presentation
about
10071
penn
avenue
south,
as
we
received
a
tif
application,
as
well
as
a
request
to
support
the
application
for
bond.
So
this
has
come
before
you
before
and
I
just
want
to
highlight.
It
has
come
before
you
before
as
10041
penn
avenue
south,
but
the
site
has
gone
through.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
the
site
has
gone
through
entitlement,
and
so
the
address
will
be
in
is
10071
penn
avenue
south.
F
So
this
is
new
construction
of
68
units
on
the
newly
newly
created
parcel,
which
is
not
just
1.071
penn
avenue
south.
So
it's
2.20
acre
site
and
it's
infill
and
surplus
land
of
pin
place
apartments
and,
as
I
said
it
is
entitled,
has
gone
through
site
entitlement.
F
The
developers,
boy,
claire
and
lori
beaucler
actually
is
here
this
evening.
It's
68
units,
a
mix
of
one
two
and
three
bedrooms,
and
it
will
be
a
hundred
percent
affordable
at
or
below
sixty
percent
area
median
income.
I
have
provided
the
proposed
breakdown
of
unit
count,
as
well
as
the
ami
for
each
unit
and
the
bedroom
size.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
really
getting
into
the
thirty
and
fifty
percent
area
meeting
income
and
also
providing
larger
size
units
at
two
and
three
bedrooms
with
more
affordability.
F
F
F
As
to
excuse
me
previously
looked
at
to
incorporate
into
this
development
would
be
parking
style,
reduction,
enclosed
parking,
space
function,
storage,
space
reduction
density,
bonus,
minimum
unit,
size
reduction,
landscape
fee
and
lieu
reduction
development
fee
deferment,
using
project-based
housing
vouchers
and
tax
increment
financing
is
the
request
to
help
with
the
development.
The
total
development
cost
right
now
is
about
23.1
million
a
little
bit
over
23.1
million.
F
The
public
investment
that
is
being
requested
is
one
low
income
housing
tax
credit,
which
is
why
we're
here
this
evening,
is
to
request
support
the
resolution
for
that
application
to
the
state
metropolitan
council,
livable
communities
act
or
lca.
That
is,
for
additional
funding
that
helps
with
the
development
and
also
meeting
the
goals
of
the
met
council
and
our
housing
2030
housing
goals.
They
do
a
line
which
this
project
as
proposed,
does
and
then
later
on.
F
F
These
are
high
level
how
this
project
would
happen,
and
so
the
next
steps
would
be
with
approval.
The
developer
will
be
submitting
the
bond
application
by
7
15
with
approval
from
this
board
tonight,
as
well
as
the
application
for
metropolitan
council
livable
communities,
act,
funding
and
so
lori
beaucler
is
here.
F
If
you
would
like
to
hear
anything
from
lori,
because
she
does
a
great
job
of
talking
about
this
project
and
especially
with
all
the
experience
she
has
of
being
a
great
partner
in
bloomington
in
affordable
housing
development,
but
also
I
can
take
any
questions
and
there
are
two
recommendations
for
motions
on
the
screen.
A
No,
I
will
now
open
it
up
to
the
commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
for
ms
boy,
claire
or
for
administrator
coleman.
A
I
Just
a
quick
comment:
boy
claire
has
presented
to
the
the
housing
coalition
bloomington
housing
coalition
a
couple
years
ago,
and
I
had
some
other
opportunities
to
observe
some
of
the
housing
that
that
she
and
her
company
have
supported,
and
it's
it's
like.
The
word
it
comes
to
mind,
is
a
noble
effort
to
truly
help
people
who
are
in
need
of
affordable
help,
so
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
thanks.
A
Good
good
comment:
are
there
any
further
questions
or
comments?
Otherwise
I
would
be
looking
for
two
motions.
A
A
A
A
B
D
E
A
To
the
second
motion,
to
approve
support
for
in
cooperation
with
the
acknowledgement
of
receptivity
of
the
met
council,
liberal
communities
act
funding
application.
Do
I
hear
a.
A
E
A
F
Staff,
including
city,
legal
and
chief
finance
officer,
as
well
as
hra
legal,
have
met
and
negotiated
an
extension
to
the
repayment
of
the
loan
with
costs
included
for
extending
staff
is
here
so
our
city
cfo,
lower
economy,
scholler,
our
hra
general
counsel,
carla
peterson,
as
well
as
aeon
staff,
ceo
alan
arthur,
as
well
as
bill
mc.
Is
it
magoo?
F
Sorry
and
sarah
harris
are
all
here
to
answer
questions,
and
I
do
believe
that
aeon
may
have
a
little
bit
that
they
want
to
offer
first,
if
they
would
like
to
take
that
opportunity.
K
Just
start
there,
yes
thank
you,
chairperson
lewis,
commissioners
and
all
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
having
us
here
tonight
and
thank
you
for
the
tremendous
partnership
you've
had
with
us
in
helping
save
306
units
at
what
was
the
village
club
and
is
now
blooming
meadow
south,
which
has
also
enabled
us
all
to
work
hard
to
construct
and
create
another
172,
affordable
apartments
with
blooming
meadows
north
on
the
same
site.
K
Ultimately,
as
I've
always
said
to
folks
as
we've
taken
over
some
of
these
older
properties,
it's
a
three
to
five
year
journey
to
get
them
where
they
need
to
be,
but
we're
on
that
journey,
and
we
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
fulfill
some
of
the
obligations
that
we
all
contemplated.
Early.
K
There's
been
a
few
changes
in
our
environment
and-
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
about
the
general
operations
or
overall
operations
of
aeon
and
of
course
I
have
our
executive
vice
president
of
strategy,
partnerships
in
production,
sarah
harris
here
and
bill
mcgu
who
heads
our
acquisitions
team
to
talk
about
any
technical
details
about
this.
So
look
forward
to
engaging
about
how
we
move
this
forward
in
a
in
a
productive
way.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
but
anyone
else
from
ann
like
to
speak
this
evening.
A
Okay,
all
right.
F
So,
chair
lewis,
I
wanted
to
jump
in
real,
quick
and
just
say
what
has
happened
just
to
recap
so.
F
A
there
is
a
payment
due
on
july
15th
to
the
hra.
According
to
the
revolving
loan
fund
agreement
of
three
million
dollars
in
consultation
with
the
hra
general
counsel,
the
city,
cfo
city,
legal,
the
community
development
director
and
aeon,
we
have
been
able
to
advise
a
or
come
up
with
or
negotiate
an
agreement
that
would
not
put
the
hra
in
hardship,
and
so
that
agreement
is
to
split
the
payments.
F
A
Are
there
any
questions
for
administrator
coleman
or
for
mr
arthur
and
the
other
people
that
are
here
from
aeon.
D
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'll
put
it
out
there.
I
don't
know
who
to
address
the
question
to,
but
the
I
understand
the
schedule.
It's
in
the
information
provided.
D
F
So
chair
lewis,
commissioner
beloga,
no,
we
did
not
negotiate
that
should
tax
credits
become
available,
that
the
payment
be
accelerated.
F
Part
of
that
was
taken
into
consideration
the
obligations
that
the
hra
has
in
terms
of
repaying
the
loan
agreement
with
the
city
of
bloomington,
but
as
well
as
allowing
for
that
time
as
agreed
to
and
not
have
to
go
back
and
change
the
agreement
in
terms
of
if
there
is
a
prepayment
also,
there
is
a
need
that
the
senior
lender,
because
we
are
junior
lender,
the
senior
lender-
will
need
to
sign
off
on
this
agreement
and
to
make
it.
F
Less
complicated
in
terms
of
what
the
terms
are
for
the
senior
lender,
the
senior
mortgage
excuse
me
on
this
project.
We
were
able
to
do
it
this
way,
I
would
say
if
lori
economy,
scholler
or
carla
peterson
have
anything
else
to
add.
Please
chime
in.
D
D
Thank
you.
I
could
have
made
your
president
another
minute,
but
you
know
the
the
hre
board
has
discussed
numbers
of
times
prior
to
your
joining
the
city
hra
and
subsequent
to
that.
The
concerns
about
aeon's
financial
stability
because
of
the
aggressive
acquisitions
and
then
to
shortly
after
that
have
read
that
ann
is
in
discussions
with
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
hennepin
county
to
build
a
200
million
plus
dollar
project
in
downtown
minneapolis.
D
Just
heightens
the
anxiety
that
I
personally
have
on
this.
So.
A
E
Who
brought
that
issue
up
also
last
meeting,
I
do
share
those
same
anxieties
about
about
the
financial
situation
with
aeon
and
continued
kind
of
aggressive.
E
Acquisitions,
when
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
investment
by
city
of
blooming
taxpayers
is,
is
secure
and
paid
off,
as
you
know,
as
quickly
as
originally
agreed
upon.
So
I
I
just
again
no
comment
necessary.
I
just
share
those
concerns.
A
Mr,
mr
arthur,
would
you
like
to
respond
to
just
some
of
the
comments
like
raising
your
hand.
K
Chair
louis,
thank
you
so
much.
That's
a
pleasure
to
try
to
talk
about
those
one
of
the
important
things
to
understand
about
affordable
housing.
Producers
is
we're
like
a
hammer
or
a
saw.
K
Our
capacity
is
very
closely
related
to
the
capacity
of
the
communities,
the
funders
and
lenders
we
work
with.
We
we
have
zero,
I
mean
we
have
some
money
in
our
bank
account
obviously-
and
we
rate
it
as
an
exemplary
organization
by
a
national
organization
that
takes
a
look
at
us
financially
and
operationally
every
three
years
happy
to
give
you
more
information
about
that
we're
solid.
Financially,
we
have
an
extremely
strong
leadership
team.
K
As
a
matter
of
fact,
that's
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
a
ceo
has
made
the
decision
to
to
a
transition
out
for
mayana.
We
you
know,
as
as
commissioner
baloga
and
a
few
other
people
on
this,
call
know
that
the
graveyards
are
full
of
indispensable
men
and
women
and
at
some
point
we
have
to
make
the
decision
to
to
pass
the
baton,
and
our
organization
is
very
strong
in
all
ways,
and
but
our
capacity
is
directly
related
to
the
capacity
of
the
community
and
the
will
of
the
community
to
fund
projects.
K
Each
project
that
we
do
stands
on
its
own
separately
from
our
organization,
so
organizationally
happy
to
provide
any
information.
I
think
we
have
provided
some
to
show
that
we're
solid
financially
each
project
itself
is
independent
as
a
matter
of
fact,
all
of
our
funders
and
lenders,
including
your
attorneys
and
others,
require
us
to
keep
each
of
those
projects
independent
financially
and
operationally,
so
that
their
in
this
case,
your
your
investment
is
safe
and
not
mixed
with
others.
It
is
true.
We've
been
very
aggressive
in
our
acquisition
strategies.
K
We
plan
our
actually
our
future
plans
project
and
expect
that
we
will
continue
to
be
that
as
long
as
communities
like
bloomington,
walk
with
us
hand
in
hand
with
that
same
concerted
effort
to
solve
the
major
problems
we
have
with
affordable
housing.
So
I
think
we
can
satisfy
any
internal
organization
capacity
issues
you
might
and
concerns
and
anxiety
you
might
have.
K
K
You
guys
have
gone
outside
colored
outside
the
lines
you've
been
as
you've
been
as
assertive
as
we
have
on
this
front,
but
I
think
your
anxiousness
should
be
is
well
placed
about
whether
or
not
the
rest
of
our
community
is
only
talking
the
game
and
not
not
engaging
in
doing
what
needs
to
happen,
because
I
have
serious
reservations
about
what
the
rest
of
the
community
and
some
of
our
major
institutions
are
not
doing
on
this
front
and
need
to
come
to
the
table
at
in
more
depth
and
breadth.
K
So
happy
to
answer
that
more
specifically
and
also
happy
to
answer
any
specific
questions
you
have
about
our
organizational
leadership,
financial
capacity
etc.
But
we
don't
we
don't
put
our
money
in
these
deals.
These
things
happen
from
the
community.
You
know
we
have
enough
money
to
make
sure
that
lenders
will
end
to
us
and
funders
will
invest
in
us,
but
that's
about
it.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
arthur.
Are
there
any
questions
from
mr
arthur
mayor
lewis?
Yes,
commissioner,
olson.
Thank
you.
I
Mr
arthur
appreciate
what
you
have
indicated.
Moving
that
into
a
question
are
those
kinds
of
information
like
you
mentioned
national
review
every
three
years
and
and
the
status
that
you
have.
We
as
the
city
talk
about
our
our
rating
with
the
bond
companies.
I
guess
it
is
or
whatever
yeah.
E
I
K
I
Would
just
close
with
a
the
question
is
there
on
the
table,
but
I
would
also
close
with
indicating
that
I
for
one
appreciate
the
your
willingness
to
move
rapidly.
I
A
a
getting
village
club
was
a
very
short
hair
reason
kind
of
thing,
and
I
think
it's
generally
understood
that
we
we
beat
out
the
the
biggies
nationally,
who
would
have
been
drooling
to
to
buy
it
and
not
use
it.
The
way
that
that
you
are
you
as
to
the
question
are:
we
is
the
city
accessing
the
kind
of
information
you
just
indicated.
F
So,
yes,
that's
audited,
financials
that
the
actually
is
public
information
when
it
comes
to
a
non-profit
such
as
aeon
is.
But
yes,
the
city
is
able
to
request
and
review
audited
financials.
However,
the
parent
company
is
not
who
we
have
in
a
contract
with.
It
is
with
the
subsidiary
aeon
vp
bloomington
llc.
I
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
before
I
ask
for
a
motion
again,
I
can't
see
everybody
so
just
let
me
hear
your
voice,
I'm
getting
really
good,
recognizing
voices.
Hearing,
no
voices.
A
H
A
H
F
Administrator
coleman,
I
would
just
like
to
pose
a
question
to
the
commissioners
of
what
is
the
desire
here
with.
If
there's
not
going
to
be
an
approved
motion.
F
What
is
the
desire
here
by
the
commissioners
for
this
project
and
or
development
and
loan
agreement,
because
I
will
state
that
without
any
motion
this
evening,
we
will
be
looking
to
come
back
as
directed
by
the
commissioners,
but
we
also
will
be
looking
at
a
complete
default
on
our
agreement
with
aeon
vp
bloomington
llc,
and
we
are
a
junior
lien
holder
to
the
senior
mortgage.
A
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
the
commissioners,
because
that
is
very,
I
mean
that's
very
serious.
What
I'm
hearing
is
extremely
serious
if
we
don't
vote
on
this.
Yes,
commissioner,
who
came.
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
guess
for
me,
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
from
a
staff
from
you
know
our
financial
staff,
on
kind
of
where
they
sit
where
their
opinions
are,
why
they
feel
confident
bringing
this
forward.
I
guess
that's
what
I'd
like
to
hear
is
just
kind
of
from
our
financial
team
of
what
why
they
feel
comfortable
just
because
there
is
a
lot
of
anxiety
around
this
issue.
Thank
you.
A
Economy
here
again,
I
can't
see
all
the
faces,
but
thank
goodness
she's
there
would
you
care
to
speak.
L
Sure,
chair
lewis,
when
we
look
at
each
of
the
these
affordable
housing
projects,
there's
a
lot
of
financial
resources
that
need
to
come
in
and
get
layered
into
each
of
these
deals
and
they
you
know
they
need
the
tax
increment,
they
need
all
the
different
pieces
and
there
is
a
higher
risk.
I
know
our
council
has
wanted
us
to
be
more
bold
and
innovative,
and
with
these
deals
there
is
more
risk.
We've
looked
at
all
the
different
ways
and
commissioner
bulogum
might
recall,
and
and
administrator
coleman.
L
Now
knows
what
belt
and
suspenders
mean
to
to
the
city
where-
and
you
know
where
we
try
to
put
as
many
risk
mitigators
that
we
can
into
a
project
and
and
in
this
particular
one
we're
you
know,
we're
we've
issued
the
debt
at
the
city
level,
we've
brought
in
you
know,
and
and
then
we
pass
it
through
to
the
hra
and
then
hra
has
the
process
with
aeon.
L
We've
put
these
layers
in
there
and
we
we
also
have,
as
part
of
this
particular
structure,
a
half
million
dollars
of
hra's
tax
lobby
as
a
stop
gap
as
part
of
the
some
of
these
issues.
L
But
because
we
were
able
to
restructure
the
three
million
you
know,
I
think
it
we
we're
more
on
the
comfortable
side
right
now,
knowing
that
this
is
much
more
affordable
for
them
to
make
these
payments,
and
it
makes
all
the
payments
from
the
hra
to
the
city
to
old
nationals
so
that
the
debt
is
preserved
and
all
the
pieces
on
that
from
the
city
to
the
bank
on
the
debt
side
is
covered,
there's
just
more
risk
on
affordable
housing
projects.
L
So
at
this
point
we
are
just
aware
of
the
risk
we're
okay
with
where
we
have
this
structured,
and
it
is
part
of
the
recommendation
forward.
E
L
Chair
lewis
and
commissioner
thorson,
we
looked
at
all
the
different
structures
and
we
had
the
conversation
with
alan,
arthur
and
his
staff
in
regards
to
what
they
could
make
in
regards
to
payments,
covert,
hit
them
hard
and
hopefully,
with
the
period
of
time.
You
know
if
they
want
to
prepay
any
of
those
payments
when
they
get
sufficient
funding,
they
can
do
that
without
any
sort
of
penalty.
So
we
structured
this
as
much
as
possible
to
make
sure
that
the
debt
service
to
old
national
was
covered
and
that
they
could
meet
these
payments.
L
So
if
they
can
accelerate
it,
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
take
their
monies
as
fast
as
they
can
earn
them.
There's
no
penalties
for
that,
but
this
is
what
they
and
we
could
meet
our
debt
service
and
they
they
could
afford.
A
H
I
just
want
to
state
that
I
do
have
the
anxiety,
but
I
also
want
to
state
that
I
do
support
this
project,
and
so
that's
where
I've
been
you
know
in
turmoil,
because
of
course
you
know,
money
is
important
and
it
gets
nerve-wracking
when
we're
dealing
with
these
this
this
amount
of
money,
but
I
also
don't
want
this
to
how
do
I
say
this?
I
don't
want
it
to
be
a
negative
for
projects
in
the
future
as
well
like.
H
I
don't
want
this
to
deter
other
developers
and
things
like
that
to
say
the
city.
You
know
we
have
been
in
a
pandemic.
We
have
to
look
at
that.
There's
the
the
rent
situation
across
the
board.
This
isn't
the
only
property
dealing
with
this,
so
we
can't-
I
can't
judge
them
for
that.
So
I
want
to
say
I
I
thank
staff
for
the
explanation
and
their
support.
It
does
put
me
at
ease-
and
I
just
want
to
state
that
I
would
support
this.
I
would
second
this
motion.
A
You
thank
you
and-
and
I
just
want
to
echo
commissioner,
who
keems
comments.
I
think
we
have
to
remember
coving.
A
A
I
just
think
it
would
send
the
wrong
message
again
to
future
developers
who
might
come
forward,
so
I
would
support
it
and-
and
I
understand
the
concern
I
have
that
as
well,
but
so
I
now
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
from
commissioner
olsen
and
a
second
by
commissioner
hukim
again,
I
will
throw
this
open
for
discussion
before
we
vote.
A
So
it
has
been
moved
and
seconded
okay.
I
will
now
call
for
a
vote
on
the
motion
to
adopt
the
resolution
approving
the
first
amendment
to
the
amended
and
restated
development
agreement
and
second
amendment
to
loan
agreement
and
authorization
to
execute
all
related
documents
between
housing
and
redevelopment
authority
in
and
for
the
city
of
bloomington
and
aeon
vp
bloomington
llc
for
blooming
meadows,
south
housing
development.
B
E
E
A
You
moving
on
then.
C
Yes,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt.
This
is
sarah
harris.
I
just
want
to
express
gratitude
on
behalf
of
aeon,
not
just
for
the
vote
you've
just
taken,
but
I
have
to
tell
you
how
reassuring
it's
been
to
listen
to
the
entirety
of
this
meeting
and
the
support
you
have
for
all
different
forms
of
affordable
housing
and
the
community
members
in
bloomington.
So
I.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
comment.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
aeon
for
being
here
tonight
and
being
available
for
questions.
A
F
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
lewis,
erica
coleman,
hra
administrator.
This
is
really
just
the
final
product.
You
had
received
a
housing
report
presentation
a
while
back
from
mike
palermo
and
updates
of
the
contents
of
the
annual
report,
and
this
is
just
the
final
final
product
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
were
able
to
see
of
how
it
came
together
with
the
work
that
staff
has
done
so
brian
hartman,
mike
palermo,
sherry
showquist
actually
before
she
transitioned
and
then
our
the
bloomington
communications
staff
is
who
actually
put
this
together.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
forward,
so
you
could
see
it
and
look
at
it
and
it
will
be
on
our
city
webpage
and
it's
getting
the
web
page
is
getting
updated.
So
there
is
a
link
provided
because
otherwise,
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
find
as
the
web
as
the
city
is
updating
its
web
pages.
I
I
just
want
to
say
I
printed
out.
I
had
to
do
it
a
second
time,
so
you
heard
it,
but
I
printed
out
pages
I
think,
55
through
whatever
58.
I
think
that's
you're,
showing
some
of
the
pages.
Now
I
think
that's
something
well,
I'm
going
to
be
putting
that
in
my
file
and
taking
a
look
at
periodically.
I
think
it's
valuable
information
and
I
appreciate
staff
putting
it
together.
Thank
you.
A
A
F
D
A
Oh
yes,
the
rehab
alone.
I
am
very
sorry
item
7.1,
rehab
loan
program.
Update.
Excuse
me
for
skipping
right
over
that
I've
got
it
right
in
front
of
me.
So
may
we
have
the
staff
report.
Please.
F
Yes,
erica
coleman,
hra
administrator.
I
just
wanted
to
provide
an
update
that
there
is
a
temporary
hold
on
new
applications,
only
new
applications
for
the
home
improvement
loan
program,
so
that
includes
cdbg
and
neighborhood
program,
which
in
part
does
use
strategic
priority
funds,
funding
that
was
received
from
the
city
council,
cdbg,
obviously,
as
I
mentioned
before,
which
is
a
federal
allocation
and
then
repayments
to
produce
the
rehab
loans.
F
This
is
a
temporary
pause
to
just
conduct
a
comprehensive
and
coordinated
review,
an
assessment
and
update
the
policies,
procedures
and
process
hra
will
engage
and
include
the
city,
legal
and
finance
because
of
the
cdbg
funding
that
is
used
for
part
of
the
programs.
F
So
this
goes
to
the
2021
approved
work
plan,
which
is
operational
efficiency,
and
so
this
just
falls
under
operational
efficiency
and
just
a
temporary
hold
a
temporary
pause
on
the
new
applications
for
the
program.
There
are
still
households
and
clients
moving
through
the
process,
so
there
are
still
people
getting
work
done.
There
are
still
people
that
are
paying
off
loans.
There
are
still
people
that
are
coordinating
with
staff,
so
it's
not
all.
Work
has
stopped.
It's
just
new
applications
at
this
temporary
time.
A
Lewis,
yes,
commissions,
organ.
E
E
J
E
This
simply
for
operational
efficiencies,.
F
So
it's
both,
and
so
thank
you,
chair
lewis
and
commissioner
thorson
for
the
question
it
is
both,
and
so
there
are
conversations
at
the
staff
level
in
terms
of
operational
efficiency.
So
there's
not
issues
operational
efficiency
to
look
at
how
we
are
doing
the
work,
how
we
are
communicating
to
pup
the
public?
How
is
the
public
able
to
understand
and
access
the
programs?
F
Do
the
application
and
the
whole
process,
and
so
yes,
there
will
be
staff
level
conversations,
but
it
is
suspected
to
have
update
to
the
program
the
policy
of
the
program
and
that
would
need
to
come
back
before
the
hra
board.
So
it's
not
just
a
staff
level.
Conversation
would
be
staff
and
hra
board
engagement
and
conversation
and
approval.
A
Administrator
coleman,
I
have
one
quick
question:
how
long
do
you
anticipate
that
this
hold
will
be
on?
For
you
know,
new
participants,
yep.
F
So
I
have
not
actually
provided
a
time
frame,
but
my
anticipation
and
my
hope
is
by
early
fall
at
the
latest.
The
latest.
A
All
right,
thanks
are
there
any
other
questions
for
administrator
coleman.
A
I'm
not
I'm
not
seeing
or
hearing
any
other
questions
at
this
point-
and
I
know
this
is
was
just
for
discussion,
but
you
will
be
bringing
back
any
any
changes
or
that
any
changes
to
any
of
the
programs
you
would
be
bringing
back
to
the
book
absolutely
absolutely.
F
And
I
do
have
to
one
last
thing:
it's
not
the
rehab
loan
program,
it's
actually
the
maintenance
contract
for
the
41
properties
that
the
hra
owns.
There
are
41,
single-family,
scattered
site
properties.
There
is
a
need
to
come
back
at
the
future
meeting
to
request
an
interim
maintenance
contract.
F
So
during
operational
efficiency
transitioning
from
the
current
maintenance
contract,
we
will
need
to
request
approval
to
enter
into
an
interim
maintenance
contract
for
the
41
single
family,
scattered
site
properties
that
the
hra
owns
and
do
that,
while
issuing
a
new
rfp
process.
So
that
will
be
at
a
future
meeting.
A
D
So
my
question
is:
is
that
if
people
have
made
applications,
are
we
going
to
continue
with
those
applications
or
will
they
be
caught
up
in
this
temporary
and
the
reason
I
ask
is:
is
there
there
is
a
problem
with
how
long
the
estimates
are
valid
for
that
accompanies
the
application,
so.
F
Absolutely
thank
you,
chair
lewis,
commissioner
beloga,
to
answer
your
question.
Anyone
that
has
made
application
and
got
gotten
the
estimates
has
moved
forward
that
was
discussed
with
staff
staff
did
bring
that
up,
and
so
people
that
have
gotten
the
estimates
and
gone
through
that
process.
We
are
not
holding
their
application,
so
this
is
only
for
literally
brand
new
applications.
A
Okay?
Well,
as
this
was
just
a
discussion
item,
thank
you
administrator
coleman
for
giving
us
that
information.
It
will
be
interesting
to
see
what
changes
are
made
if
any,
so
all.
Right
and
now
I
can
actually
get
to
item
7.2,
sorry
about
missing
7.1.
A
This
is
just
the
questions
and
answers
for
any
of
the
commissioners.
Is
there
anything
the
commissioners
would
like
to
ask
bring
up
any
concerns
for
future
meetings.
H
Thank
you,
and
I
don't
know
this-
isn't
like
a
big
deal.
It's
just
something
that's
been
on
my
mind
is
our
meeting
time
at
5
30
I
feel
like
that
is
hard
for
a
lot
of
the
general
public.
I
guess
for
me.
I
just
like
to
know
kind
of
what
I
haven't
paid
attention
to
what
the
starting
times
of
other
commissions
are,
but
if
we
kind
of
could
get
an
idea
of
what
their
starting
times
are.
H
I
just
feel
that
for
people
who
work
to
like
five,
it
does
make
it
a
little
bit
hard
for
our
community
to
maybe
attend,
especially
as
we
go
back
in
person
just
kind
of
some
concerns
that
I've
heard
and
things
like
that.
So
just
something
to
think
about.
Thank
you.
F
About
that,
chair
lewis,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
I
know
that
starting
times
are
between
5
30
and
6
p.m.
F
There
is
another
shorter
commission,
and
what
I
mean
by
shorter
is
that
they
don't
they're
not
like
a
chartered
board
or
anything
that
starts
at
4
30,
but
usually
5,
30
and
or
6
pm
is
the
times
that
I
have
at
least
seen
for
the
port
authority,
the
planning
commission
and
the
human
rights
commission.
And,
as
you
know,
the
city
council
starts
at
6pm.
A
Right
and
I
this
is
chair
lewis,
it's
been
a
few
years
since
I've
been
on
the
planning
commission,
but
we
were
5,
30.
and
yeah,
and
I
will
I
will
say
I
was
coming
from
downtown
and
sometimes
it
was
a
little
hard,
but
that
that
was
5.
30
was
like
the
regular
time
so,
but
good
comment,
good
comment
and
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
if
any
other
commissions
have.
A
You
know,
brought
up
the
same
concern
that
you
know
it's
early
but
administrator
coleman.
If
you
find
out
anything
different,
you
could
you
know,
please
let
us
know.
Yes,.
F
Thank
you,
chair
lewis.
I
I
guess
I
can
just
look
into
it,
but
I'm
really
don't
want
to
misspeak
here,
but
I'm
almost
positive.
We
could
set
and
notice
the
time
just
how
the
city
council
changed
time
that
it
was
starting.
I
think
there
that
is
something
that
we
may
have
the
flexibility
to
do.
We
are
not
a
city
chartered
commission.
We
are
a
separate
entity
with
a
board,
so
I
do
believe
that
is
something
we
probably
have
more
more
flexibility
in
changing
if
need
be,.
A
A
Or
a
different
time
I
mean
I'm
just
throwing
that
out.
This
is
just
this
is
the
discussion
time
right
now,
but
I
feel
like
we
might
have
that
flexibility
to
go
at
least
a
half
hour
later,
but
I
would
want
to
know
what
other
commissioners
thought
chair
lewis.
B
Yes,
this
is
a
microwave,
just
letting
you
know
that
to
change
the
time
you
will
have
to
make
an
amendment
to
the
bylaws,
because
the
time
the
starting
time
is
stated
in
the
bylaws
just
so
everyone
knows
that.
A
Okay,
all
right,
then,
I
would
just
ask
commissioners
if
there's
something
we
want
to
look
into
further
or
just
because
it
is
already
in
the
bylaws
to
stay
with
530,
since
that
seems
to
be
pretty
across
the
boards
with
other
commissions.
E
As
for
myself,
and
only
speaking
for
myself,
I
think
5
30
is
a
is
a.
It
is
an
appropriate
time
to
not
only
you
know
have
a
meeting
that
is
public
publicly
accessible,
but
also
so
it
doesn't
run
too
long.
So,
whether
it's
our
commissioners
who
have
family
and
children
or
whether
it's
you
know
the
general
public
that
needs
to
you
know
get
on
to
school,
you
know
helping
with
homework
and
so
on.
E
I
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
compromise,
there's
never
an
ideal
time
for
everyone,
but
I
would
just
voice
that
I
am
personally
happy
with
the
5
30
time
and
it
is
sometimes
a
challenge
to
to
get
here
and
get
started.
That's
for
sure.
A
All
right,
okay,
any
other
comments.
I
guess
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
5
30..
You
know
I
having
to
go
back
in
and
man
the
bylaws
again.
I
would
be
comfortable
staying
at
5
30.
I
Thank
you.
One
of
the
things
I'm
I'm
wondering
about
during
this
conversation
is
with
covet
and
going
to
virtual
meetings.
Have
we
talked
recently.
I
read
it
somewhere
that
we
are
well.
The
governor's
order
is,
is,
I
think,
the
thing
that
brings
it
to
the
attention,
but
are
we
talking
about
continuing
to
have
or
expanding
our
use
of
public
television
coverage
of
this.
F
Thank
you,
chair
lewis,
commissioner
olson.
Those
are
conversations
right
now
is
to
find
out.
If
that
is
an
ability
for
us
to
do
and
maintain
reason
being,
is
I
think
it's
great?
Like
you
stated,
I
think
it's
great
to
have
that
opportunity
for
public
to
be
able
to
plug
in
and
access
information
that
previously
we
were
not
televised.
F
So
I
think
that's
really
great,
and
I
would
like
to
see
about
continuing
that,
but
in
that
same
vein,
looking
at
the
capacity,
the
staff
capacity
is
going
to
be
needed
in
particular
I.t.
I
think
it's
beyond
the
capacity
of
of
the
hra
staff
currently
and
as
myra
does
an
amazing
job.
We
cannot
expect
her
to
do
all
the
things
at
one
time.
So
that's
what
that
would
be,
and
it's
just
not
possible.
F
So
that's
where
that
conversation
is
happening
because
we
do
have
to
look
at
I.t
the
use
of
I.t,
and
what
does
that
mean
and
the
capabilities
of
the
rooms
that
we
have
reserved
council
chambers
is
not
exactly
up
for
question
the
same
way.
A
conference
room
is
in
terms
of
the
ability,
so
we're
looking
into
that,
and
also
just
looking
at,
is
that
going
to
cost
the
hra
anything
additional.
F
But
it's
a
conversation.
So
I
plan
on
following
back
up
with
that.
I
thank
you
for
the
question
brian
hartman
and
I
actually
talked
about
it
earlier.
So
thank
you.
A
I
Just
a
quick
follow-up
comment:
I'm
not
sure
if
the
discus,
thanks
for
reminding
me
of
of
our
previous
conversations
about
this
as
a
board,
one
of
the
things
I'm
I'm-
I
don't
recall
if
we've
talked
about,
but
would
there
be
an
opportunity
like
with
the
the
city
council
that
has
a
public
comment
period?
I
Would
there
be
opportunities
technologically
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
for
people
to
do
that
from
home
as
well?
Is
that
something
that
can
be
looked
at?
I
should
say.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
lewis,
commissioner
olsen.
That
is
a
part
of
the
conversation
which
is
one
of
the
main
things
driving.
It
is
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that,
even
though,
as
commissioners
as
a
board,
we
must
return
in
person
that
the
capability
for
the
public
to
plug
in
virtually
is
available,
so
that
is
a
part
of
driving
that
conversation.
Yes,
thank.
A
E
A
B
D
I
B
E
A
A
I'm
going
to
say
good
night,
then,
since
you're
going
to
be
talking,
see
you
next
meeting.