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From YouTube: October 13, 2021 Bloomington Minnesota City Council / Port Authority Concurrent Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota City Council / Port Authority Concurrent Meeting
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B
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C
F
Perfect,
thank
you.
Well,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
with
you
this
evening
and
basically
I
think
I'm
back
to
answer
two
of
the
questions.
The
big
questions
that
came
out
of
the
report
on
the
key
takeaways
and
one
of
them
and
thinking
about
it
was:
are
there
differences
looking
at
the
demographics
of
the
businesses?
Is
there
one
type
of
business,
one
area
of
the
city
that
there's
more
levels
of
concern
than
others,
but
then
also
the
bigger
question
about
what
the
takeaway
is
and
thinking
about?
F
What
to
look
at
to
advise
the
city
moving
forward-
and
I
talked
about
it
last
time-
is
that
you're
in
an
enviable
position,
the
survey
was
very
positive.
Business
owners
and
managers
are
very
pleased
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
so
the
shift
isn't
from
changing
people's
minds
from
unfavorable
to
favorable.
The
shift
is:
how
do
you
make
them
enthusiastic?
F
How
do
you
move
them
from
good
to
excellent?
How
do
you
move
them
from
agree
to
strongly
agree,
and
in
looking
at
this,
then
my
business
partner?
I
sat
down
with
the
data
and
we
did
what's
called
an
answer
tree
and
trying
to
look
at
the
differences
in
businesses
that
were
more
unfavorable
and
what
are
the
key
driving
factors
or
the
questions
related
back
to
that
rating
and
looking
at
it,
two
variables
came
into
play.
F
C
F
I
interrupted
her.
Oh
no
worries,
okay,
so,
first
off
as
we
go
through
the
data
for
comparison's
sake,
I've
kept
in
the
overall
results
and
some
key
questions.
So
you
you're
reminded
of
what
the
results
were
for
all
400
businesses
and
to
keep
in
mind
that
that
sample
that
400
is
projectable
to
plus
or
minus
five
percent.
F
Now,
as
we
go
to
a
lower
sample
size,
the
margin
of
error
goes
up,
so
keep
in
mind
when
we're
looking
at
this.
The
margin
of
error
for
this
sample
is
plus
or
minus
8.8.
So
what
I've
done
on
some
of
these
questions?
We're
going
to
go
through
with
the
demographics
first
is
just
to
see.
Are
there
statistically
significant
differences
on
the
demographics?
F
F
There
are
none
if
you
add
up
over
10
years,
it's
on
the
edge
of
statistical
significance,
but
still
it's
pretty
widespread
across
the
longevity.
What
about
the
demographic
question
on
what
type
of
business
is
it?
Is
there
any
difference
on
retail
retail
is
up
two
percent.
It
has
to
be
greater
than
eight
percent
to
be
statistically
significant.
F
F
There
is
one
area
that
was
more
likely
to
be
less
than
enthusiastic
that
group
and
that
it
was
if
they
said
their
business
was
on
the
494
strip.
It
was
actually
right
at
the
edge
it
was.
They
were
nine
percent
higher.
Everything
else
was
within
the
northern
range
it
was.
They
were
also
more
likely
this
group
to
be
owners
of
their
buildings
or
their
facility
instead
of
tenants
that
actually
move
from
25
to
34.
F
If
we
look
at
the
makeup
of
the
employee
base
in
the
company,
there
are
no
differences
between
full-time
businesses
and
the
less
than
for
our
full-time
employees.
There
are,
there
is
a
difference
on
if
they
have
part-time
employees,
they're
less
likely
to
have
one
in
ten
part-time
employees,
but
it
actually
distributes
to
they
either
have
either
have
none
or
they
have
more
than
ten,
it's,
not
one
group
or
the
other,
but
the
full-time
base.
There
are
no
differences.
F
There
we
go
any
age
and
any
difference
in
the
age
of
the
respondent.
There
are
none
in
the
ethnicity.
There
are
no
differences.
The
there
is
a
six
percent
increase
of
the
latino
latina
and
latinx.
It
goes
from
six
to
12.
It's
not
statistically
significant,
though,
and
then
finally,
on
the
demographics.
F
Are
there
any
differences
on
gender
men
are
more
likely
to
be
less
than
enthusiastic,
but
it's
not
statistically
significant.
It's
a
seven
point
increase
and
there's
no
difference
on
the
zip
code
so
that
494
strip
the
location
stretches
a
few
zip
codes.
But
so
it's
not
located
in
just
one.
So
to
answer
the
council's
question
and
the
port
authority's
question
from
earlier.
F
F
So
a
couple
of
couple
open-endeds,
we
asked,
if
you
remember
in
the
survey,
is
there
anything
in
an
open-ended
response?
The
city
could
do
to
improve
the
business
climate.
The
only
difference
is
at
the
bottom,
the
no
they
have
more
suggestions,
but
they
don't
coalesce
around
one
or
two
items.
Lowering
taxes
does
double
it's
not
statistically
significant.
You
also
have
a
doubling
of
employee
training
and
tax
incentives,
but
they're
not
statistically
significant.
F
F
What
do
they
view
the
most
serious
issue
facing
their
business
in
the
community
once
again,
there's
not
just
one
thing,
but
there
are
they
all.
It's
statistically
significant
that
they
point
to
something
that
those
saying
there
are
no
problems.
There
are
no
serious
issues
in
the
in
the
city
of
bloomington
goes
from
49
down
to
35
percent.
You
do
see
it
doubling
on
the
lack
of
customers
from
five
to
eleven
percent
and
other
items.
F
We
did
then
go
through
a
list
and
we
asked
them
for
each
of
these.
Is
this
a
very
serious
issue
for
your
business,
a
somewhat
serious
issue
or
not
a
serious
issue
at
all,
in
going
through
and
looking
at
the
red
to
give
to
give
the
city
some
direction
on
what
the
focus
of
the
most
serious
issue
facing
the
business
is:
the
general
economic
conditions,
the
macro
economics.
F
It
goes
from
37
percent,
saying
very
serious
among
all
businesses
up
to
50
percent
the
cost
of
doing
business.
The
very
serious
category
almost
doubles
from
23
to
40
percent.
The
high
renter
lease
actually
doubles
from
16
to
30
percent,
the
lack
of
customers
double
from
10
to
22
percent
access
to
capital
and
health
care
costs,
also
double
what
what
stays.
F
F
At
this
time,
I
thought
it'd
be
interesting
to
look
at
the
labor
pool
to
see
if
that
was
driving
and
remembering
back
the
time
frame
for
this
survey
was
in
june,
and
that
was
kind
of
where
the
employee
shortage
and
all
that
discussion
was
happening
in
the
news
now.
Obviously,
we
have
other
factors
coming
into
play:
supply
the
supply
system,
everything
like
that
inflation,
but
back
in
june
this
group
they
were
not
statistically
significantly
different
on
the
quality
of
the
labor
pool.
F
F
E
F
It
is
the
labor
pool
for
the
business
and
you're
right.
It
goes
beyond
the
city
borders.
Obviously
I
mean
in
a
metropolitan
area.
It's
not
going
to
be
just
focused
on
the
labor
pool
in
bloomington.
It
is,
it
is
quite
the
question
is
focused
on
the
labor
pool
for
that
business
and
then
looking
and
going
beyond
that
and
asking
them
for
the
competencies
they're
looking
for
and
those
sorts
of
aspects,
but
it
is
not
saying
the
labor
pool
in
bloomington.
E
F
Now
I
just
double,
checked
and
wanted
to
look
to
see:
do
they
have
any
differences
in
how
they
feel
about
the
city
itself
and
looking
at
the
differences
on
the
mayor
and
the
staff,
I
just
decided.
Let's
just
do
one
chart,
there
are
no
statistically
significant
differences
on
how
they
feel
on
the
city,
and
so
I
just
chose
the
city's
attitudes
and
responsiveness
towards
local
business.
Overall,
it
was
90
percent.
Amongst
this
group
it
was
88.
F
Of
12
items
and
asked:
should
the
city
of
bloomington
put
a
great
focus
on
this
for
the
businesses
in
the
community
somewhat
some
of
the
focus
not
too
much
or
none
at
all.
What
what
I
continue
to
array
on
this
chart
is
the
growth
in
some
and
keeping
in
mind
that
for
all
businesses,
you
had
vast
majorities
saying
it
should
be
at
least
some
focus
so
really
they're
saying
do
it
all?
What
differentiates,
though,
and
what
we
look
at
is
the
intensity,
the
blue.
Do
they
feel
it's
some
or
great?
F
Now
there
are
two
statistically
significant
differences
among
this
group
of
the
less
than
enthusiastic.
What
continues
to
remain
at
the
top
of
the
list
are
retaining
and
growing
existing
built
businesses.
It
was
70
percent
in
the
overall,
a
great
focus.
It
was
65
percent
in
the
in
the
lesson
enthusiastic
group
recruiting
new
businesses
63
overall,
amongst
the
less
than
enthusiastic
55
percent.
There
is
a
statistically
significant
drop,
interestingly
enough
on
the
low
interest
small
business
loans
for
this
group
that
actually
dropped
from
50
percent
great
focus
to
41
percent.
F
If
we
continue
to
go
down
the
list,
it
pretty
much
mirrors,
then,
except
then
we
get
down
to
building
traffic
infrastructure
that
actually
a
great
focus
for
the
lesson
enthusiastic
goes
from
32
to
48
percent.
So
what
we
did
then
at
this
point,
is
I
went
into
the
computer
and
I
wanted
to
pull
out
those.
F
That
said,
it
was
a
great
concern
and
I
ran
that
against
where
their
location
was
and
going
back
to
the
demographics,
keeping
in
mind
that
the
one
area
that
there
was
higher
levels,
it
was
on
the
490
dwarf
strip.
So
if
they
were
on
the
494
strip,
it
was
almost
a
one-to-one
that
they
said
a
great
focus
on
building
traffic
infrastructure.
F
So
that
would
go
back
then
to
kind
of
the
question
on
the
labor
pool.
Is
it
the
interstate
highway
system?
Is
it
state
roads?
Is
it
county
roads
or
is
it?
You
know,
city
roads
that
they're
talking
about
infrastructure?
The
location
of
the
business
would
indicate
it's
more
than
likely.
The
494
strip
is
where
the
the
focus
is
and
they're
desiring
to
be.
F
F
It
remains
the
top
two,
the
focus
on
retaining
growing
existing
businesses
and
recruiting
new
businesses
having
a
majority
and
two
almost
two-thirds
at
the
top
saying
it
should
be
a
great
focus
for
the
city,
then,
in
looking
at
two
kind
of
ideas
we
put
into
the
survey
on
the
idea
of
a
business
incubator,
and
we
explain
this
to
the
owners
and
managers.
You
know
what
an
incubator
was
and
asked.
Does
this
sound
like
a
good
idea
and
how
it
relates
back
to
the
second
line
of
the
the
great
focus
on
new
businesses?
F
In
this
day
and
age,
this
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
it
pairs
back
to
that
one
of
those
top
two
priorities,
and
similarly
the
idea
of
partnerships
with
schools-
and
I
didn't
put
fit
on
there
with
local
community
colleges
and
developing
those
partnerships
for
the
workforce,
and
that
can
relate
back
then
to
the
quality
of
the
labor
pool
the
quantity
of
the
labor
pool
being
available
amongst
the
community
amongst
the
businesses.
Overall,
it
was
98
and,
amongst
the
lesson
enthusiastic,
it
was
98
clearly
th.
F
This
is
a
there's
mandates
on
these
two
very
specific
ideas
that
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do
for
the
community.
Will
it
be
the
one
thing,
then,
that
moves
them
from
good
to
excellent?
The
data
would
indicate
that
it
will
it
all
it
will
do
will
build
the
foundation
because
it
is
the
general
macroeconomics
that
are
driving
the
lesson
enthusiastic
at
this
point
in
june,
their
feelings
on
the
the
current
status
of
the
climate
and
their
concern
for
the
future.
So
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
B
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
the
comment
I
made
before
I
mean
these.
These
numbers
are
obviously
very
strong
and
I
had
asked
you
the
last
time
you
made
it.
You
know
how
does
this
compare
to
others
around,
and
I
think
you
said
very
favorably
I
mean
so.
I
think
that's
something
that's
important
to
stress
with
this.
B
It's
it's
always
difficult
to
to
figure
out
exactly
what
people
want,
but
I
think
maybe
one
of
the
most
important
things
is
that
we
ask
the
question
and
then
we
go
to
the
business
community
and
say:
what
can
we
do
for
you?
I
recall
my
day
is
the
super
value
and
our
ceo
at
the
time
sent
a
letter
out
to
our
retailers
and
he
was
amazed
at
the
information
he
got
back
and
it
was
really
good
stuff.
So
I
think
that
this
whole
process
is
one.
That's
that's
good
and
should
be.
You
know
done
occasionally.
B
G
Thank
you.
You
know
there
was
a
point
made
earlier
kind
of
asking.
What
can
we
do
about
this
and
I
think
the
presentation
got
into
that
a
little
bit,
but
I
remember
conversations
that
talked
about
kind
of
workers
within
a
certain
time,
distance
of
commuting
and
availability
that
way,
and
so
when
I,
when
I
think
about
the
the
kind
of
quantity
of
workers
equation
kind
of
the
work
that
that's
already
been
going
on
around
housing
and
work,
that's
going
on
around
transportation
to
increase
job
access
for
people.
G
There's
certain
sets
of
people
who
work
was
kind
of
a
discretionary
activity
for
them.
Maybe
retired
people
who
used
it
to
earn
a
little
bit
of
extra
money
or
high
school
kids
who
were
all
working
and
maybe
there's
a
set
of
people
that
are
saying?
No,
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
right
now,
and
so
I
think
the
other
thing
we've
got
to
kind
of
watch
on.
That
is
make
sure
we're
not
because
this
was
done
during
the
pandemic,
that
we're
not
overreacting
to
that
data
and
that
we
watch
a
little
bit
and
say.
G
B
E
E
A
And
I
agree
with
you,
commissioner
keller,
it's
and
commissioner
peterson
it's
all
tied
together
without
question:
it's
the
housing,
transportation,
the
worker
readiness
and
it's
what
it
all
comes
down
to
in
terms
of
those
three
things
how
they
work
together.
I
think-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
what
we
heard
tonight
through
this
kind
of
bears,
that
out.
F
If
would
you
and
just
to
reinforce
the
point,
because
I
absolutely
agree
once
we're
out
of
this
quote
unquote,
the
data
would
suggest
you
will
have
a
natural
shift
from
good
to
excellent
from
agreed
to
strongly
agree,
and
that's
why
you
know
in
thinking
about
how
to
move
forward.
Is
it
good
enough
or
is
it
laying
foundational
things
that
have
been
discussed
and
that
we've
talked
about
previously,
so
that
when
it's
good
up
here
is
the
foundation
strong
too.
E
H
So
you
know:
we've
we've
done
a
citizen
survey
every
year
and
we've
done
a
business
survey,
and
I
I
was
kind
of
thinking
about
this
as
I
was
reading
over
the
material
and
I
wonder
from
a
standpoint
from
a
when
we
look
at
transportation
and
housing.
Does
it
make
some
sense
to?
I
don't
know
if
this
even
exists
but
I'll
ask
it
anyways.
If
there
is
such
a
survey,
that
would
just
look
at
labor.
You
know,
for
example,
just
the
labor
force
itself
and
and
look
at
some
of
those
issues.
You
know
wage.
H
I
know
we're
looking
at
family
sick
time
and
that
that
type
of
thing-
and
so
I
just
I'm
just
curious
if
there
is
such
a
survey
out
there,
that
just
looks
you
know
at
the
labor
force.
You
know
maybe
trying
to
exclude
some
of
the
management
or
you
take
it
in,
but
you're
able
to
separate
that
out
and
see
what
their,
what
their
opinions
are
of
things
that
just
just
I'm
sure
you
would
do
it.
F
Yeah
I
mean
we've
done
numerous
business
surveys,
but
not
going
down
to
the
labor
force.
When
we
do
residential
community
surveys,
we
will
get
into
a
few
employment.
You
know
what
you
always.
You
know
what
they're
doing
in
their
position
their
feelings
on
housing,
their
feelings
on
transportation,
that
you
can
link
back,
pardon
me,
but
not
kind
of
on
wages
and
and
those
sorts
of
aspects.
F
H
And
I
would
be
particularly
interested,
you
know,
since
we
have
such
a
large
retail
and
hospitality
industry
here
in
bloomington
to
be
able
to
do
that.
You
really
can't
get
at
that
that
demographic
data,
but
I
mean
simply
certainly
we
could
add
a
question
on
the
citizen
survey,
but
I
just
think
it'd
be
a
little
easier
to
get
that.
Maybe
we
can't
get
that
access
to
those
employees,
but
I'd
be
I'd,
be
curious.
If
we
could
do
something
like
that
down
the
line.
F
F
I
F
F
F
C
Okay,
my
other
comment
was
just
on
the
given
that
this
was
the
survey
of
business
owners
managers.
I
I
didn't
make
the
jump
that
maybe
others
did
about
the
affordable
housing.
I
didn't
see
that
as
something
that
we
were
talking
about
that
was
coming
up
in
the
survey
surveying
this
particular
group
of
business
owners,
so
I
wouldn't
want
us
to
automatically
based
on
this
survey,
jump
to.
E
The
city
has
looked
at
this
stuff
from
time
to
time,
and
I
forget
exactly
what
the
program
is.
But
we've
had.
You
know
service
provider
individual
of
the
year,
things
that
I
think
ciao
bella
wins.
Every
time
from
some
waitress
there
or
waiter
there
so
didn't
mean
to
do
this
one-to-one
thing.
I
think
it's
one
to
many.
J
A
B
B
A
Thank
you.
That's
that's
some
interesting
information
to
have
in
front
of
us,
and
it
really
is.
I
want
to
make
sure
this
isn't
one
of
those
reports
that
just
sits
on
the
shelf,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
we
can
do
with
that
information
that
we
have
gleaned
and
putting
that
together
with
our
community
resident
survey,
I
think
is,
would
be
very
useful
and
I
think
we
should
take
a
look
at
that.
A
A
We
are
going
to
take
public
comment
on
this
talking
about
the
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
about,
so
we're
looking
for
a
public
comment
either
here
on
in
the
council,
chambers
or
we'll
take
it
on
the
phone
and
then
we'll
move
it
toward
a
discussion
regarding
some
motions
that
are
laid
out
there
regarding
council
and
then
port
authority.
Support
of
the
minnesota
usa
expo
bid.
So,
mr
fabregar,
mr
rudman
who's,
taking
it
mr
rudling.
K
K
So
again,
what
is
an
expo
expose
come
in
two
main
variants:
we
in
the
us
call
them
world's
fairs.
The
rest
of
the
world
calls
them.
Expos
generally,
kazakhstan
had
an
expo,
a
smaller
62,
acre
or
smaller
expo
in
2017
and
in
2015.
Milan
had
a
large
expo
and
dubai
is
currently
having
expo
2020
right
now
in
2021
delayed
due
to
the
pandemic.
K
Expo
27
is
healthy
people
healthy
planet,
well,
wellness
and
well-being
for
all
focused
on
what
minnesota
does
really
well,
as
it
relates
to
the
business
community,
and
otherwise
the
bureau
of
international
exhibitions
organizes
these
world's
fairs,
these
expos
and
they
meet
twice
a
year
in
paris
and
really
what
an
expo
is.
It's
a
combination
of
a
state
fair,
a
little
bit
of
a
trade
show,
and
then
you've
got
some
diplomacy
that
happens
too
with
world
leaders
coming
to
these
things.
K
K
K
It
left
behind
public
art
and
they
had
these
permanent
buildings
that
were
left
behind
that
can
be
converted
into
business
uses
after
the
event,
and
the
dubai
expo
is
happening
right
now
and
they
plan
to
take
the
the
site
that
they
have
built,
which
is
hugely
impressive.
If
you
haven't
seen
media
coverage,
I
encourage
you
to
go
check
it
out
online.
K
They
want
to
make
it
a
global
community
for
the
future,
so
that
brings
us
to
expo
2027.
That
minnesota
is
is
bidding
for.
We
sometimes
joke
that.
It's
the
only
thing,
perhaps
that
president
obama,
trump
and
biden
all
agreed
on,
is
to
to
bring
an
expo
back
to
the
u.s
and
minnesota.
They
all
took
official
action
to
allow
that
to
happen,
and
it
has
bipartisan
support
in
congress
and
from
the
minnesota
delegation
as
well
so
rewinding
time
back
to
2017
for
the
expo
2023
effort.
K
Really,
nobody
was
quite
sure
the
federal
government
was
going
to
do
what
they
did
in
the
first
half
of
2017
and
allow
the
united
states
to
re
rejoin
the
bureau
of
international
exhibitions
and
that
started
a
six-month
sprint
really
after
it
was
may
12th.
I
think
where
president
trump
ultimately
signed
a
bill
into
law
that
allowed
the
u.s
to
to
do
these
things
again.
K
The
city
engaged
at
that
point
got
a
purchase
agreement
on
the
spruce
shadows
farm
and
worked
with
the
mall
of
america
to
get
an
agreement
on
the
land
to
the
east,
which
is
the
adjoining
lands.
We
started
a
consultant
contract
that
studied
logistics,
transportation,
parking,
etc,
etc
and
financials
and
a
draft
pro
forma
for
the
project.
And
then
the
bie
vote
happened
on
november
15
of
2017,
with
the
vote
going
to
argentina
and
argentina
has
since
canceled
their
plans
for
the
expo
due
to
the
pandemic
and
economic
concerns
in
that
country.
K
Nobody
knows
what
any
particular
federal
government
is
going
to
do,
but
in
the
summer
of
2021
the
federal
government
recognized
the
minnesota
expo
effort,
and
that
project
is
is
a
very
live
project
sitting
here
today
and
they've
got
two
milestones
coming
up
over
the
next
year
and
a
half.
Actually
it's
closer
to
a
year.
Now
this
dossier,
an
inquiry
visit
that
will
be
submitted
and
then
this
inquiry
visit.
K
K
K
I
mean
expos,
really
bring
countries
together
in
a
setting
that
is
more
about
celebrating
our
likenesses
than
complaining
about
our
differences
and
the
lead
up
to
the
expo
has
an
intense
amount
of
activity
and
staff
and,
frankly,
a
lot
of
young
people
to
get
together
and
build
their
pavilions,
and
you
know,
get
to
know
each
other
and
again
in
a
setting
that
isn't
adversarial,
typically
so
countries
that
are
viewed
as
adversaries.
You
know
sometimes
they're
right
next
to
each
other
and
the
milan
expo.
K
For
example,
the
iran
pavilion
was
very
close
to
the
pavilion
from
israel,
so
those
people
saw
each
other
across
the
street
literally
which
that
doesn't
happen
all
the
time,
so
they
eat
their
food.
They
sit
in
their
cafes
and
it's
too
strong
to
say
that
an
expo
is
going
to
bring
about
world
peace,
but
it
can't
hurt
the
effort,
that's
for
sure,
expo
benefits
for
the
united
states.
K
So
the
department
of
commerce
is
very
interested
in
expos
because
it's
their
job
to
you
know
you
know,
increase
the
commerce
of
the
united
states
and
trade
globally
and
so
expose
can
help
that
they
make
business
connections.
They
bring
businesses
together,
governments
and
businesses
from
from
the
us
and
other
countries
meet
because
they're
in
town
and
that
all
helps
the
grease
the
skids
of
international
trade.
If
you
will
it's
a
great
marketing
and
branding
opportunity
for
the
country,
that's
hosting
the
expo-
and
you
know
us
diplomatic
leadership
and
democracy.
K
I
mean
the
world
really
does
look
to
the
us
for
leadership
on
this
front,
and
you
know
recent
times
haven't
helped
our
branding
on
that
front.
Frankly-
and
so
it's
just
amazing
to
me
when
you
meet
with
these
governments
and
from
around
the
world-
and
you
know
how
they
look
to
the
us
truly
for
leadership
on
on
the
on
many
fronts-
there's
been
limited
us
engagement
and
expos
in
the
past
40
years,
while
other
countries
have
been
very
focused
on
them.
K
You
know
we're
in
competition
with
lots
of
other
countries
and
they
are
very
engaged.
China's
extremely
engaged
lots
of
other
countries
use
this
as
a
as
a
marketing
tool
and
to
to
show
the
world
that
they've
got
their
act
together
and
a
lot
of
them
really
do
benefits
for
minnesota.
I
think
the
biggest
one
is
just
simply
growing
minnesota
businesses.
K
You
know
the
expo
again,
there's
a
public
side
to
it,
but
there's
also
a
side
that
happens
outside
the
exposed
walls,
and
that's
really
you
know,
building
on
the
health
and
wellness
sector.
That
minnesota
is
really
strong
in
already,
but
we
should
continue
to
to
do
things
that
we're
good
at
and
grow
those
industry
clusters.
Indeed,
and
greater
msp,
are
excited
about
the
opportunity
and
then
outside
of
that
just
the
construction
of
the
project
itself.
It's
an
expensive
project,
there's
lots
of
jobs,
construction
companies
and
things
like
that.
K
That
would
benefit
from
the
construction,
then
zooming
into
bloomington.
The
most
direct
simply
put
benefit
to
bloomington
is
the
admissions
tax,
so
we
would
get
a
three
percent
tax
on
all
the
expo
tickets.
If
there's
12
million
tickets
at
roughly
35
and
that's
a
low
estimate,
it
could
very
well
be
higher
than
that.
It's
about
12
or
13
million
dollars.
K
E
K
It's
a
three-month
three-month
event,
but
again,
it's
probably
six
to
nine
months
on
the
front
end
where
you
see
intense
activity
and
lots
of
contractors
and
countries
and
then
after
the
expo
to
you
know,
convert
it
to
its
legacy.
Use
bloomington
would
get
a
lot
of
visibility.
Business
development
would
thrive
during
that
time
again.
I
spoke
about
the
country
days
each
day
at
the
expo
dignitaries
and
a
parade
would
happen
in
bloomington.
You
get
a
lot
of
media
focus.
You
have
these
people
staying
in
our
city,
the
mayor
and
council.
K
People
would
be
pressing
a
lot
of
poems
during
those
time
periods,
so
you've
got
the
you
know
the
president
of
of
country
x
coming
to
visit,
and
you
might
see
that
on
you
know
your
morning
show
cnn
or
whatever,
and
then
you
know
those
those
leaders
of
the
countries
they
bring
along
their
respective.
You
know
commerce,
folks,
their
business
people
and
they
want
to
do
business
with
america.
That's
there's
no
doubt
about
that.
K
So
there's
a
lot
of
activity
in
off-site
boardrooms,
business,
locations,
hotels
and
and
areas
like
that
and
then
you
know
public
garden
place
place.
Making
certainly
exposed
have
left
behind
some
of
the
world's
most
iconic
landmarks.
Now,
certainly
bloomington
or
minnesota
wouldn't
see
the
eiffel
tower
or
the
space
needle.
But
something
like
that
could
happen
here.
If
done
right,
just
hasn't
been
invented
yet,
and
then
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
for
the
port
authority
in
particular
import
staff
we
focus
on
is
the
permanent
development
post
expo.
K
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
an
expo
happens
in
bloomington,
you
know
those
buildings
are
economically
viable
for
post
expo
uses.
So
you
know
to
the
you
know
if
this,
if
this
gets
going
and
starts
gaining
the
momentum,
that
we
think
it
will
a
multiple
meetings
and
working
groups
with
deed,
greater
msp,
the
businesses
developers
and
brokers,
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
building
is
economically
viable
for
businesses
after
the
expo
is
of
just
critical
importance.
K
You
know
you
could
envision
an
innovation
hub,
focusing
on
the
bioeconomy,
the
med
tech,
wellness
tech
sector,
thriving
in
south
loop
developing,
you
know,
62
acres
of
our
key
development
district
in
one
fell
swoop,
and
so
that's
that's
obviously
very
attractive
to
us
economic
development.
Folks,
in
order
to
do
that,
you
probably
do
need
some
fake
state
and
federal
assistance
in
order
to
make
that
happen,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
do,
but
it's
a
very
exciting
project
if
it
can
be
executed.
Well,
no
project
is
without
risks.
K
So
you
know
that's
why
today's
staff
were
were
recommending
a
measured
approach
to
the
expo
and
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
second
there's.
Certainly
an
opportunity
cost
right.
You
know.
If,
if
we
expend
the
effort
in
working
on
the
expo
now,
it
means
we're
not
working
on
other
things,
it
all
comes
down
to
a
boat,
a
vote
that
happens
in
november
of
2022,
and
if
we
lose
the
vote,
then
we
lose
all
that
time
and
effort
and
money
that
we've
spent
on
the
project.
K
I
think
the
other
biggest
risk
is
that
the
expo
event
isn't
successful.
It's
not
executed
well
or
something
like
that,
or
even
after
the
vote.
If
the
financing
doesn't
come
through
for
x,
y
or
z,
you
don't
have
a
successful
event.
That
certainly
needs
to
be
said
out
loud
that
that's
a
possibility
right.
We
can't
we're
not
in
control
of
that,
and
it
is
something
that
could
happen.
K
K
K
That
needs
to
all
go
well
in
order
for
the
project
to
to
move
on
to
the
november
2022
vote,
and
then,
after
that,
you've
got.
You
know
four
years
to
develop
the
event
and
the
development.
The
planning
and
delivery
event
is
of
critical
importance,
and
that
group
is
up
and
running
now
and
so
again.
Measured
approach,
approach,
you'll
see
in
the
motions,
the
recommended
motions,
which
of
course,
can
be
modified,
that
we
recommend
that
bloomington
publicly
state.
K
We
want
to
be
the
host
city
and
the
host
site
and
actively
pursue
the
land
for
the
project
and
that
will
kick
off
site
planning
and
other
things.
You
know,
event
delivery
and
whether
there's
a
public
private
partnership
for
the
the
project
itself
is
to
be
determined.
We
don't
know
the
answers
to
those
questions
today,.
K
And
these
are
the
motions
that
are
the
same,
that
that
are
in
the
packet,
and
I
know,
as
the
mayor
mentioned
at
the
front
of
the
meeting
here,
that
we'd
be
taking
public
comment,
but
I'd
leave
it
to
the
mayor
and
president
erickson
how
they
want
to
do
that.
If
there's
questions
of
me,
I'm
happy
to
answer
those.
The
city
manager
is
very
involved
in
the
project
as
well,
and
I
know
that
he's
willing
to
answer
questions
also.
L
L
L
So
when
shane
says
you
know
we're
aware
of
one
there's
this
time
frame
once
a
country
has
kicked
off
the
process
which
the
us
did
by
which
other
countries
have
to
come
forward.
So
we'll
know
the
answer
about
how
competitive
this
may
be
by
the
end
of
january,
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
it's
not
a
certainty
that
the
us
would
be
awarded
the
expo
if
it
is
indeed
the
only
competitor
just
because
the
inquiry
mission
from
the
bie
does
a
very
detailed
look
at
the
proposal.
L
To
make
sure
the
theme
is
one.
That's
going
to
be
interesting
to
all
of
the
participating
countries.
They
want
to
make
sure
that
the
finances
for
the
for
the
proposal
are
likely
to
lead
to
success
and
they
have
a
number
of
other
considerations
as
well.
So
we'll
know
a
little
bit
more
in
a
couple
months
where
we
stand
in
terms
of
how
things
play
out
over
the
course
of
the
next
year.
A
G
Yeah,
so
my
question
is,
it
seems-
and
I
just
want
to
verify
this,
but
it
seems
like
the
sequence
of
this
like
a
lot
of
projects.
Is
you
need
site
control
in
order
to
kind
of
make
a
proposal
that
you
can
actually
kind
of
come
through
on
the
project?
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
how
the
site
control
fits
in
with
that,
because
seems
like
that's
the
big
step
that
we're
taking
off
here.
That's
like
a
not
a
there'll,
be
a
point
where
it'll
be
irrevocable.
K
Thank
you,
mr
president,
and
commissioner
peterson
yeah.
So
the
site
control
is
a
big
part.
Obviously,
in
2017
we
had
a
partner
in
triple
five
with
the
adjoining
lands
and
we
did
a
purchase
agreement
with
the
spruce
shadows
farm,
which
is
ultimately
ultimately
cancelled
because
of
the
loss
of
the
vote
and
also
well,
we
held
on
to
that
for
an
extra
month
or
two,
because
the
amazon
thing
was
still
hanging
out
there
and
then,
when
that
didn't
happen
for
minnesota,
we
let
the
purchase
agreement
go
so
yeah.
K
J
J
How
much
was
there
earnest
money
left
on
the
table
to
the
to
the
kelly,
ayers
family,
I'd
like
to
be
refreshed
on
that
and
then
the
of
the
total
62
acres?
How
much
would
the
kelly
farm
be
comprised
in
the
62
acres
necessary
now,
62
acres
is
a
maximum
okay
and
then,
lastly,
which
is
a
little
off
it,
but
I
still
think
it's
tight.
J
K
K
C
K
K
K
Yep,
so
earnest
money
was
75
000,
and
so
we
forfeited
that
when
the
purchase
agreement
was
canceled
canceled,
we
basically
bought
an
option
for
that
time
period.
For
that
amount
of
money
is
how
that
worked,
and
so,
if
you've
got
30
or
35
acres
there
on
the
kelly
farm
and
if
you
combine
it
with
the
adjoining
lenses,
which
is
again
what
we
proposed
in
2017,
it
may
or
may
not
necessarily
be
what
we
proposed
this
time.
You've
got
the
62
acres,
which
is
a
maximum
for
these
smaller
sized
expos.
J
K
B
K
I
did
talk
to
casey
hersberg,
who
presented
to
these
boards
pre-pandemic
here
about
a
month
ago
and
there's
she's
still
in
a
holding
pattern,
but
their
project
is
still
a
potential
and
I
think
it's
a
possibility
that
that
could
come
back
into
the
expo
it
in
some
ways.
It
is
in
some
ways
it
isn't
a
you
know:
good
fit
it's
not
specifically
on
the
theme
of
health
and
wellness
the
shuttle
is,
but
who
doesn't
like
a
space
shuttle.
So
I.
C
J
And
then
one
more
question
came
to
me
how
much
land
in
the
south
loop,
the
city
controls
is
still
available
and
I'm
with
the
full
understanding.
It
may
not
be
contiguous
to
the
40
acres
in
the
kelly
site,
for
instance,
or
what's
left
there,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering:
what's
the
totality
of
land
in
the
south
loop,
that's
bare
ground
or
it's
going
to
be
bare
ground
with
industrial
develops
or
something
that
are
going
to
be
scraped.
K
Sure
president
commissioners,
commissioner,
lunds
so
the
the
port
authority
and
or
city
in
this,
in
this
case,
the
port
authority
owns
the
ramada
site,
which
is
about
11
acres
thunderbird
site,
and
then
we
own
the
only
other
parcel
that
we
own
or
control
is
the
remaining
parcels
on
the
sick
development,
which
is
a
14
acre,
total
site
and
roughly
half
of
that
is
the
first
phase,
and
so
we've
got
just
say:
seven
acres
of
easy
math
on
that
project.
That
is,
of
course
committed
through
our
agreements
with
sick
for
their
future
phases.
K
J
K
No
so
on
the
adjoining
lands
at
the
mall
owns,
that's
about
32,
ish
acres,
and
it's
currently
the
only
thing
that
encumbers
that
property
is
the
light
rail.
Currently.
So
there's
no
the
light
rail,
oh
right
now:
okay,
yep,
there's
no
permanent
structures.
There
are
no
permanent
structures
on
that
property.
L
J
A
K
K
Gao
reports
invest
heavily
into
olympics
in
lots
of
different
ways.
Through
security
operations
are
some
of
the
biggest
ones,
security
for
an
event
like
this
would
be.
You
know
very
important
and
very
costly
effort,
same
thing
with
an
olympics,
and
the
federal
government
invests
heavily
into
those
efforts,
and
so
the
organizers
would
need
to
you.
L
K
B
K
Itself,
but
you
know
we
are
I'm
curious
about
that,
because
you
know
so
so.
We've
read
some
of
those
reports
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
level
of
commitment
exists
and
the
government,
always
it
has
for
these
kind
of
big
international
events
in
the
past,
certainly
not
committing
the
federal
government
to
anything,
and
nor
is
the
federal
government
committed
to
anything.
But
it's
it's
not
untypical
for
them
to
do
that.
For
for
big
events,
but
there
there's
no
doubt
that
you
know
for
a
development.
K
K
K
L
Mr
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
If
I
might,
the
the
state
department
and
the
commerce
department
have
clearly
delineated
responsibilities
when
it
comes
to
participation
and
expos,
so
for
the
dubai
expo
or
the
upcoming
expo
ian
in
osaka
in
2025,
the
state
department
is
the
the
lead
agency
for
coordinating
participation
in
international
expos.
If
the
united
states
is
hosting
an
expo,
the
department
of
commerce
is
the
lead
agency.
So
there's
a
there's
a
bit
of
a
handoff
from
one
department
to
the
other.
L
When
it's
on
our
own
soil,
the
state
department
is
still
very
involved
in
coordinating
all
of
the
communication
and
coordination
through
the
bie,
but
for
the
actual
oversight
of
the
event
that
the
u.s
is
hosting.
That
falls
into
the
department
of
commerce's
purview.
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
G
Thank
you
two
quick
kind
of
related
questions.
I
guess,
assuming
we
were
to
move
forward
on
these
motions
tonight
favorably
at
what
point
will
we
start
getting
firm
commitments
from
large-scale
corporate
sponsors?
I'm
thinking
the
mayo
clinics
of
the
world
organizations
like
that
and
then
kind
of
on
to
that
with
the
adaptive
reuse
of
these
properties
going
up.
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
councilmember
martin.
So
it's
a
great
question.
Some
of
the
answer
is
we
don't
know
yet,
but
the
the
mayos
and
medtronics
and
bus
and
scientifics
of
the
world.
It's
really
the
expo
organizing
committee
minnesota
usa
expo
that
first
goes
to
those
companies
and
asks
them
if
they
want
to
be
part
of
the
effort.
Many
of
them
were
part
of
the
effort
back
in
2017
and
contributed
money
to
that
and
were
involved
in
other
ways.
K
The
expo
organizing
committee
is
is
doing
that
right
now,
they're
trying
to
find
out
which
minnesota
companies
want
to
be
involved
in
the
project
and
then
they're
going
to
move
out
to
u.s
companies
and
then
internationally
as
well.
A
lot
of
money
needs
to
be
raised
on
that
front
in
order
for
it
to
be
a
successful
event.
K
K
We
want
to
be
part
of
that,
whether
it's
a
public
private
partnership,
where
we
are
doing
a
more
active
role
in
the
development
or,
if
we're
just
convening
brokers
and
developers
and
businesses
together
to
make
sure
that
the
structures
are
built
so
that
businesses
can
use
them
without
spending
a
lot
of
money
to
convert
them
into
what
they
want
to
do
with
the
with
the
structures
right.
So
there's
a
lot
of
touches
of
the
corporate
community
during
that
time.
B
I
was
talking
with
shane
and
one
thing
that
helped
me
to
kind
of
get
my
arms
around
12
million
visitors
is
just
looking
at
the
example
that
we
have
in
our
own
community
at
the
mall
of
america,
which
is
generating
40
million
visitors
a
year.
So,
if
you
think
over
three
months
I
mean
we're
fortunate
that
we
we
already
have
a
situation.
I
think
that
we
can
envision
something
like
this
with
that
number
of
visitors
and
have
kind
of
ideas.
C
Thank
you
mayor,
so
first
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
the
benefits
broken
down
and
laid
out
the
way
that
you
have
them.
It's
really
clear,
and
I
know
it's
something
I've
been
interested
to
hear
more
about.
So
if
the
motion
passes
tonight,
it
would
allow
active
engagement
with
the
minnesota
expo
and
then
the
active
pursuit
of
the
62
acres,
and
so
I'm
interested
in
having
a
conversation
about
our
expectations
or
kind
of
our
guiding
principles
as
we
go
into
making
those
kinds
of
decisions.
C
So
so,
for
example,
one
of
the
things
we
were
just
talking
about
is
what
happens
to
the
development
after
the
expo
right.
But
another
thing
that
I
would
be
really
interested
in
is
environmental
sustainability,
so
making
sure
that
we're
that's
a
strong
consideration
as
we
have
these
conversations
with
the
committee,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
at
what
point
in
the
process
do
those
conversations
happen.
K
It's
another
great
question,
and
so
if
the
council
and
port
authority
pass
the
motions
tonight,
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
those
guiding
principles:
environmental
sustainability,
equity.
All
those
things
need
to
be
ingredients
in
this
larger
project
that
need
to
get
talked
about.
We
have
some
very
preliminary
conversations
with
emma
about
this
and
other
projects.
K
Although
the
key
architect
he's
been
in
front
of
the
boards,
david
lehrer
has
been
talking
about
sustainability,
so
all
those
things
are
floating
out
there
they're
just
not
coalesced
into
a
policy
statement
yet,
but
I
mean
honestly,
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
if
this
thing
gets
going,
which
will
put
stress
on
staff
and
it's
a
preview.
It's
part
of
the
port
authority
budget.
K
You
know
to
add
another
fte
and
to
the
extent
this
project
starts
to
snowball,
we'll
very
likely
have
to
add
more
more
people
in
addition
to
that
or
hire
consultants
to
help
help
us
out
with
that
work,
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
irons
in
the
fire
right
now.
So
it's
not
a
perfect
answer.
We
just
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
those
fronts
and
your
comments
are
well
taken
and
I
think
I'll
speak
for
myself.
I
agree.
K
We
need
those
guiding
principles
because
kind
of
the
main
one
that
we've
been
talking
to
the
boards
about-
and
we've
had
a
long
time-
is
that
we
don't
want
an
expo
if
it's
just
paving
a
parking
lot,
putting
up
temporary
tents
and
buildings
and
then
walking
away.
We
one
of
the
main
goals
is
permanent
development.
K
Yeah
we've
listed
all
these
benefits,
but
you
know
the
one
that
that
I'm
just
you
know
laser
focused
on
is
making
sure
that
we
do
the
right
thing
for
the
city
for
the
post
expo
events
to
end
up
with
a
bunch
of
businesses
in
our
city
and
so
that
one's
out
there,
but
doing
it
with
climate
and
equity
in
mind
is
of
course,
very
important.
So.
A
C
Okay,
do
you
have
any
information
on
the
impact
that
this
would
have
on
like
housing,
prices
or
rental
prices
in
the
area?
So
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
we've
kind
of
struggled
with
in
the
south
loop
area
is
that
our
rental
prices
aren't
as
high
as
places
like
eden,
prairie
and
I'm
just
curious.
If
we
have
any
kind
of
information
on
what
that
impact
would
be.
K
K
The
bie
does
expect
that
you
provide
slash,
make
available
housing
for
those
folks
that
are
working
at
the
expo.
They
pay
their
own
way
and
they
pay
that,
but
they
need
to
be
assured
that
there's
availability.
So
in
2017
we
had
these
areas
identified.
Some
of
them
at
bloomington
central
station
expo
village,
sometimes
is
what
they're
called,
and
so
these
are
the
people
that
you
know:
staff
the
expo
pavilions
from
country
x
and
country
y,
and
things
like
that.
I'm
I'm
sure
that
it
will
drive
up.
K
H
L
H
L
The
first
part,
you
know
the
most
recent
example
of
argentina.
What
happened
in
argentina,
argentina,
as
a
country
has
had
significant
economic
crisis
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
In
fact,
it
was
going
on
before
the
pandemic
started.
They
had
just
really
difficult
inflation.
They
had
some
significant
national
debt
issues
and
combined
with
the
impact
of
the
pandemic,
it
just
made
it
infeasible
for
them
to
host
the
event
as
a
country.
L
One
of
the
things
that's
different
about
the
united
states
model
of
of
doing
an
expo
is:
it
is
very
reliant
on
a
public
private
partnership
model
because
there's
legislation,
even
though
shane
was
really
good
in
articulating
all
the
ways
that
the
federal
government
supports
significant
events
like
this,
that
you
know
actually
paying
the
cost
to
build
and
conduct
an
expo
is
not
a
permissible
use
for
the
federal
government
right.
So
they
support
it
in
other
ways.
L
It
is
entirely
supported
by
the
national
government
that
is
hosting
so
in
the
case
of
argentina.
It
was
entirely
reliant
on
the
the
national
government
of
argentina
to
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
expo
in
their
proposal,
and
so
when
they
have
those
economic
challenges,
there
is
an
alternative
and
that's
why
they
were
unable
to
move
forward.
L
That
was
also
a
specialized
expo
is
a
short
expo
and
it
coincided
with
the
olympics
in
los
angeles,
and
so
it
it
did
not
perform
well
largely
due
to
the
timing
and
the
fact
that
people
were
focused
elsewhere.
At
least
that's
the
the
history
that's
been
shared
with
us.
As
we've
talked
about
that
model,
1982
knoxville
tennessee
was
more
successful
than
new
orleans
was,
and
then
the
last
one
in
north
america
was
actually
in
vancouver
british
columbia
and
there's,
you
know,
still
lasting
presence
of
the
expo
in
vancouver.
Today.
H
So,
depending
on
how
we
we
move
forward
today,
I
I
I'd
like
to
see
more
around
those
risks
flush
fleshed
out,
because
I
just
think
that
that's
important
for
the
for
the
public
to
to
know
that
you
know,
as
we
have
done
a
nice
job
with
those
benefits.
I
really
think
that
we
need
to
kind
of
you
know
what
those
are
when
we
look
at
those
other
pieces.
Do
that
my
secondary
question
is
around
of
the
just
the
land
holdings
on
themselves.
K
D
K
90
acres,
so
maybe
when,
when
I'm
done,
you
can
share
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
just
to
put
the
con,
you
know
in
the
context
what
the
port
has
done
in
the
past
is
acquire
projects
and
land
like
america
hold
a
a
uli
led
process
to
figure
out
what
that
project
was
going
to
be.
Ultimately,
we
know
what
it
is
sitting
here
today.
So
that's
that's
the
model.
We've
done
that
with
the
the
interstate
and
alpha
sites.
That's
led
to
the
ac
town
place.
K
K
So
if
we
have
60
acres
or
if
we
only
have
half
of
it
and
for
if,
for
some
reason
the
project
doesn't
happen,
we
still
have
land,
that's
you
know
economically
viable
to
develop
and
I
think
that's
the
key
and
that's
why
we're
suggesting
a
measured
approach
now,
because
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
answers
to
these
questions
and
we're
not
in
control
of
many
of
these
things.
But
if
we
do
end
up
buying
land
at
some
point
in
the
relatively
near
future,
do
we
have
an
exit
strategy?
And
what
is
that?
K
And
I
think,
as
long
as
we
don't
overpay
for
property,
we
do
have
an
exit
strategy
and
that
is
the
development
like
you've
seen
in
the
past
again,
I'd
use
sick
as
an
example,
but
the
sick
like
development.
So
these
high-tech
companies
there
are
a
number
of
them
out
there.
I
can't
certainly
sit
here
and
guarantee
today
that
we'd
have
30
acres
of
sick
like
projects,
but
you
know.
H
When
we
compare
sick,
let's
say
because
I
mean
you
know:
basically
this
is
one
third
of
them
all
of
america
projected
roughly.
You
know
the
first
area.
What
would
a
sick
look
like
to
this?
You
know,
I
know,
there's
you
know,
depending
on
how
you
count
it
because
there's
the
developmental,
you
know
development
land
and
that
type
of
thing,
just
just
just
so,
just
so
myself
and
the
general
public
and
can
have
a
better
understanding.
K
And
next
plus
site
is
62
acres,
not
saying
you'd
have
to
buy
all
of
that
now.
Perhaps
you
just
buy
an
option
on
half
of
it
say
you
know
half
on
the
joining
lands
or
the
spree
shadows,
farm
or
another
site,
but
yeah
then
you've
got
that
that's
for
scale.
So
the
sixth
project
is,
you
know,
half
of
30
roughly
at
14.,
so.
A
B
Shane
was
mentioning
again,
the
city
of
bloomington
made
a
very
casual
decision
when
the
met
stadium
site
became
available
to
acquire
it,
and
it
was
something
that
actually
general
obligation
funding
was
used
and
there
was
some
general
obligation
funding
that
was
used
in
the
initial
development
of
them
all
that
was
paid
off,
but
the
whole
idea
of
the
whole
concept
was:
is
we
wanted
to
be
patient
developers?
We
did
not
want.
B
You
know,
box
stores,
everything
else,
and
at
that
point
in
time
you
could
have
had
a
lot
of
things
like
that,
and
that
philosophy
has
been
what
has
really
guided
the
port
authority
and
all
the
years
that
I've
been
involved
with
it
that
we
have
been
patient
developers.
We
want
something,
that's
quality
and
I
think,
when
shane
talks
about
doing
something
that
that
has
legs
I
used
to
when
I
was
at
the
university
of
minnesota
or
on
the
minsky
board.
B
B
So
I
think
that
this
is
something
that,
as
I
look
at,
it
is
a
manageable
risk
and
we're
not
even
talking
about
general
obligation,
funding
or
anything
here.
It's
something
that
is
financiable
with
resources.
We've
had
because
of
very
prudent
use
of
funds
that
have
been
accumulated
over
a
period
of
time,
and
we
can,
we
can
think
a
long
history
in
the
city
of
bloomington
for
looking
at
these
projects
and
wanting
as
long
also
news
to
save
both
a
belt
and
suspenders
in
others.
B
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
physically
responsible
and
that's
that
has
served
us
well.
So
I
think
you
know
this
is
something
that's
good.
I
also
just
want
to
comment
on
council
member
loman's
cabin
about
argentina
having
been
there
two
years
ago,
they're
dealing
with
30
40,
50
percent
inflation
per
year,
and
so,
when
you're
in
an
environment
like
that,
nothing
works.
L
The
the
responsibility
for
the
event
will
be
bifurcated,
so
the
primary
financial
risk
to
the
city
is
is
entirely
wrapped
up
in
the
development
side
of
the
project
right.
So,
as
we
said
four
years
ago-
and
we
continue
to
say
this-
the
city
is
looking
at
this
as
a
development
project
right.
So
we
will
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
whatever
is
constructed,
there
is
something
that's
going
to
have
lasting
long-term
benefit
to
the
community
and
it's
a
developable
project
right.
L
L
Theoretically
as
all
the
other
projects
and
the
risk
that
we
take
on
in
doing
those.
The
responsibility
for
the
actual
event
will
reside
entirely
with
the
minnesota
usa
expo
bid
committee
or
the
host
committee
at
some
point
if
we're
awarded
and
they
transition
so
they'll
be
responsible
for
the
the
planning,
the
programming,
the
financing,
all
of
all
of
those
issues
and
we'll
have
a
really
important
role
as
the
host
community
to
be
negotiating
a
lot
of
the
logistics
that
go
along
with
there.
L
So
to
reiterate,
shane's
point:
if
indeed
the
dog
catches,
the
car
here
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
be
allocating
a
lot
of
staff
resource
over
the
next
five
years.
In
in
that
regard,
and
I
think
that's
the
the
other
big
risk
is
just
the
ability
to
make
sure
that
we're
staffed
properly
to
continue
on
with
our
our
projects
and
our
focus
that
we
need
to
do
in
addition
to
doing
this
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
does
that.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
variables
at
play
and
we
don't
exactly
know
what
the
proposal
is
going
to
look
like
I
mean
what
are
what
are
we
talking
about
here
to
sort
of
clarify?
Are
we
expecting
that
most
of
this
would
be
coming
from
southwest
development
fund
or
other
city
funds,
or
where
would
this
funding
be
coming
from
in
terms
of
any
financial
requests
that
are
being
made
of
the
city
or
the
port.
K
Mr
mayor
and
councilmember
coulther,
so
the
only
two
funding
sources
that
we
have
available
to
acquire
land
are
the
celtic
development
fund
and
mall
of
america
tiff,
and
so
we
don't
have
general
fund
money
available
for
that.
That's
that's
tied
up
a
lot.
A
portion
of
the
mall
america
tiff
is
tied
up
with
the
malls
development
project,
and
so
we
would
actually
be
somewhat
stretched
to
just
tie
up
the
land,
okay
and
so
to
mr
virgi's
point
like
event,
delivery
and,
as
I
stated
before,
is
way
over
our
skis.
L
K
The
council
and
port
authority
wanted
to
like
engage
in
the
delivery
portion
of
the
project.
It
just
doesn't
exist,
it's
quite
simple,
and
so
the
organizing
committee
minnesota
expo
usa.
They
have
a
lot
of
fundraising
to
do
frankly
and
they're
they're
doing
that
right
now
and
it's
it's
a
again
a
key
milestone.
The
first
big
milestone
is
this
first
portion
of
2022..
K
They
need
to
be
successful,
raising
funds
and
creating
a
dossier
that
gets
the
favor
of
the
bie
and
that
mission
needs
to
go.
Well,
that's
a
key
milestone,
and
if
that
doesn't
happen,
then
you
know
we
have
to
reevaluate
where
we
are
and
it's
a
lot
harder
to
make.
The
project
happen,
to
win
the
vote
in
2022,
and
maybe
you
don't
maybe
the
council
port
authority
at
that
point
and
staff
say:
okay.
Well,
there
isn't
business
community
support,
they
haven't
raised
enough
money.
K
You
know
you
rethink
your
your
level
of
engagement
and
that's
why
we
recommend
a
measured
approach
at
this
point.
You
know
to
investigate
the
land.
You
know
to
council
member
carter's
point
earlier.
You
know
create
your
goals
and
objectives
and
engage
in
the
project,
because
it
is
a
very
exciting
project
if
you
could,
if
it
can
be
done
right,
there's
all
these
benefits
that
flow
to
all
these
various
agencies
and,
again,
that's
why
we
suggest
a
measured
approach.
K
Okay,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
reasonable
prices
on
these
on
these
land
pieces,
can
we
tie
up
the
land?
That's
one
step
if
the
project,
if
we
end
up
closing
and
the
project,
doesn't
happen
at
one
and
one
of
these
future
time
periods.
For
all
those
reasons
I
discussed
previously,
you
still
have
developable
land
right
and
you're
not
engaged
in
the
process,
but
to
mr
rodriguez's
point
in
the
comments
I
made
earlier,
we
want
to
be
very
engaged
in
the
development
process.
D
Sure,
thank
you.
That's,
I
think
that's
that's
helpful
for
us
to
know
and
helpful
for
the
the
public
to
hear
as
well.
I
think
just
sort
of
thinking
through
this
in
in
the
future.
If
these
motions
move
forward
tonight,
I
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
to
obviously
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
understanding
that
may
not
be
a
very
great
extent
at
all,
but
kind
of
a
sort
of
rough
sketch
of
what
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
you
know
in
terms
of
staff
coming
in
terms
of
financial
commitment.
B
Like
councilman
coulter,
I
think
it's
also
important
to
to
reiterate
the
point.
All
the
money
we're
talking
about
is
what
I
will
call
fenced
money.
It
has
to
be
used
in
that
area.
So
I
mean
again
when
we
look
at
these
things.
It's
I
think
it's
critically
important
to
explain
to
the
voters
in
bloomington
that
these
are
dollars
that
have
to,
by
definition,
be
used
there
and.
M
M
K
So
the
the
next
decision
point
that
you
would
have
would
be
related
to
land
right
and
so
the
opportunity
cost
between
now
and
that
decision
is,
you
know,
staff
time
so
there's
a
group
of
us
that
meet
internally
and
talk
about
land
and
and
then
go
and
negotiate
with
the
various
landowners
that
we're
talking
to.
So
you
know
it's
quote
unquote
just
staff
time
at
this
point,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
cost
to
that,
because
you
know
we're
not
working
on
other
projects.
K
There's
no
doubt
about
that
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
moving
forward,
you
know
assume
that
you
pass
tonight
and
then
you
get
to
this
land
decision
at
some
future
date.
You
know
the
staff
cost
goes
up.
You
know
considerably
after
that,
because
we
engage
in
the
development
process
and
we
probably
hire
some
consultants
and
things
like
that
in
2017
we
spent
about
half
a
million
dollars
on
on
that
whole
effort,
roughly
speaking,
and
so
yeah
hope
that
answers
your
question.
M
K
M
K
K
Nor
would
I
assume
that
the
council
or
the
port
authority
put
its
levy.
You
know
up
against
that,
like
they
did
back
for
them
all.
I
just
perceive
that
the
risk
tolerance
of
of
this
group
is
different
than
it
was
back
in
the
early
80s,
with
the
mall
project
or
in
a
different
situation
than
we
were
back
then,
and
so
the
answer
is:
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that
it
could
be
delivered.
M
A
L
L
So
it's
it's
reasonable
to
anticipate
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
consistently
strong
occupancy
during
those
three
months
that
will
perform
at
a
you
know,
a
significant
increment
above
what
the
normal
occupancy
is
no
idea
what
the
normal
occupancy
will
be
in
2027,
but
it's
significantly
more
what
we
have
right
now.
I
think.
I
Thank
you
mayor
and
many
of
the
questions
that
I
had
have
been
asked
and
answered,
particularly
on
the
financial
side.
So
I
appreciate
that
information
just
a
couple
of
quick
things.
It
was
mentioned
earlier
about
security
with
regards
to
this
event,
and
I
know
that
we
have
had
a
number
of
large
events
previously
with
the
super
bowl
with
the
final
four
things
of
that
nature.
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
councilmember,
nelson
yeah.
The
only
thing
I
can
say
right
now,
as
it
relates
to
security
on
the
project,
is-
and
we
did
talk
a
lot
about
that
back
in
2017
and
how
you
would
secure
the
site
with
dignitaries
coming
in
literally
on
a
daily
basis.
The
security
costs
are
extremely
high
and
that
the
federal
government
in
the
past
for
large
events
like
this
has
participated
in
those
costs
for
the
olympics,
and
things
like
that.
K
L
Members,
I
I
think
it's
important
to
reiterate
that
the
the
operating
budget
for
the
expo
that
the
host
committee
has
to
put
together
assumes
a
certain
amount
of
security
costs
and,
as
shane
said,
that's
all
that
that's
all
to
be
figured
out
in
in
the
coming
years.
If
we
are
indeed
awarded
and
to
amplify
on
what
shane
said
about
the
security
aspect,
an
event
like
this
would
have
a
designation
as
a
national
security
event,
and
so
there
are
significant
resources.
L
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
information
next
question
quickly.
What
impact
do
we
anticipate
this
having
on
residents
and
businesses,
particularly
those
in
the
area?
I
know
we've
done
a
number
of
multi-family
projects.
There.
We've
got
the
sick
development
going
in
and
a
number
of
other
businesses
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
people
are
seeing
this
for.
What
is
what
would
the
impact
of
this
type
of
event
be
for
people
within
the
community.
A
K
Mayor
and
councilmember
nelson
so
part
of
that
work
that
we
did
back
in
2017
focused
on
logistics,
similar
to
that
parking
traffic
and
so
on.
How
do
you
get
you
know
another
100
000
people
into
the
district
and
out
as
I
was
reviewing
that
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
One
of
the
comments
that
I
found
that
was
interesting
and
well
put
by
srf,
who
did
that
work
was
that?
Well,
it's
certainly
not
easy
to
do
that.
They
said
there's.
K
K
I
A
K
Mr
mayor
councilmember,
nelson,
so
as
these
boards
know
full
well,
we've
been
beating
the
drum
about
494
for
years.
You
know
the
city
and
other
stakeholders
were
critical
and
you
know
getting
the
various
pots
of
money
that
are
now
committed
to
the
project,
and
so
the
construction
timeline
for
that
project
is
still
being
determined
and
we
still
have
one
piece
of
the
project
that
we're
trying
to
find
funding
for
which
is
the
railroad
bridge
by
home
depot,
so
that
that
work,
that
mndot
will
do
not
the
city
again.
K
You
know
it
doesn't
get
done
and
we
have
to
come
back
to
the
railroad
bridge
in
order
to
provide
the
the
other
lanes
and
throughput
on
the
project.
So
we're
still
engaged
in
working
with
the
other
stakeholders
to
try
to
find
that
last
bit
of
funding
that
last
17-ish
million
dollars
to
do
that.
I
think
their
current
timeline
is
to
start
construction
on
that
project
in
23
and
a
couple
of
years
of
construction.
So
in
theory
that
all
gets
done.
K
M
M
The
major
bottleneck,
of
course,
as
we
all
know,
is,
is
the
494
35
interchange
and
that
is
scheduled
to
begin
construction
in
2023,
and
that
is
the
only
project
that
would
start
that
space
is,
I
think,
there's
a
total
of
nine
phases
and
that
encompasses
three
to
four
depending
upon
whether
or
not
the
railroad
bridge
gets
sufficient
funding
the
remainder
of
the
projects
there
are,
at
least
at
the
last
pack
update.
There
are
no
start
dates
nor
completion
dates,
because
there
is
no
funding
at
this
time
dedicated
to
the
project.
L
Mr
brookie,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
members.
I
I
heard
the
collective
gasp
at
that
seven
to
nine
year
number
and
I
think
all
of
us
share
that
sentiment.
I
I
want
to
share
with
you
that
we
had
a
discussion
with
the
sec,
the
transportation
commissioner
this
week
and
reiterated
strongly
the
need
for
this
not
to
be
a
forever
project
along
494,
that
it
needs
to
have
a
defined
timeline
and
then
be
done,
because
it's
just
a
huge
inconvenience
to
the
traveling
public
and
494
is
the
main.
L
A
C
I
A
A
A
So
I
would
look
to.
I
would
look
to
our
communication
staff
to
make
sure
that
we
again
if
we
move
forward
with
this,
that
we
have
as
much
information
as
possible
out
there.
So
people
understand
this
as
clear
as
clearly
as
they
can
and
and
we
can
clear
up
the
misinformation
that
I
know
will
be
coming
forward
on
this
as
well.
H
Mayor,
if
no
one
else
wants
to
move
this
forward,
I'd
be
happy
to
make
that
motion.
Councilmember,
lowman
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
motion
to
express
the
city
council
passed.
A
motion
to
express
its
support
for
the
minnesota
usa
expo
bid
to
bring
expo
2027
to
minnesota
and
for
bloomington
to
actively
pursue
being
the
host
city
with
a
site
itself.
Loop.
A
A
Also
anything
additional
on
this
any
additional
comments.
I
think
this
is
a
it's
an
exciting
step
I
do
want
to.
I
think
we've
said
I've
lost
count.
I
think
it
was
a
dozen
times
where
we've
used
the
phrase,
a
measured
approach,
and
I
think
that's
exactly
the
right
way
to
approach
this.
I
think
it
is
it's
exciting.
A
I
think
it's
could
be
a
transformational
development
for
the
city
of
bloomington
and
frankly
for
the
twin
cities,
and
I
think
it
would
be
it
would,
as
I
said,
be
something
that
would
be
a
an
exciting
kind
of
thing
that
bloomington
and
the
state
of
minnesota
haven't
seen
it
before.
So
I'm
excited
about
this
and
excited
to
move
forward
in
a
measured
approach
and
logically
and
make
sure
we
do
this
as
carefully
and
as
prudently
as
possible.
B
And
I
just
would
like
to
repeat
kind
of
the
same
sentiments
I
mean
when
we
started
in
this
whole
process:
acquiring
the
old,
mid
stadium
site
and
that
40
some
years
ago.
The
idea
was
for
bloomington
to
actively
create
opportunities
and
take
control,
and
I
think
the
results
have
been
self-evident.
That
we've
created
something,
and
I
think
it's
only
by
continuing
to
these
explore
these
things
on
a
very
prudent
basis
and
I'm
comfortable
that
we're
doing
that.
And
so
again,
I'm
excited
also
very
good.
B
A
It's
all
been
said
very
good
with
that
council.
I
would
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
this
evening's
concurrent
meeting
with
the
port
authority,
so
moved
so
got
a
motion
by
councilmember
colter,
a
second
by
council
member
beloga,
to
adjourn
the
city
council
portion
of
this
meeting.
No
further
council
discussion,
carolyn.