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A
Yes,
okay,
are
you
going
to
do
it
so
Shredder
ranking
secretary
Adrian
UNG,
calling
roll
please
for
every
week
confirm
your
attendance
Rod
Axton
here
here:
Ronald
Barnes
here,
Nicole
Kohler!
Yes,
here
James
gooderman,
here
Kathy
Gustafson,
here
Cynthia
hunt.
A
Since
he'll
be
here
in
a
second
Ian
Klein
here,
Ronald
Lindell
here
Grant
Peterson.
A
Being
here,
thank
you.
Next
up,
we
have
some
minutes
to
be
approved
in
our
column.
Leads
separately.
Do
I,
hear
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
October
7th
2020.,
so
we'll
second
by
Taylor
seconded.
B
By
Thorson
the
October
7th
discussion,
this
is
I'm,
sorry,
for
which
we
can
assure
one.
B
I
didn't
realize
and
I
didn't
read
them.
What
did
they
worked
but
notice
that
there's
any
differences
between
them
and
there
was
on
page
four
or
four
page,
seven
of
the
packet?
There
is
a
bulk
carry
8-0
when
everything
else
was
nine
zero.
B
B
B
B
A
A
C
B
A
A
Next
up
is
item
3.3,
which
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
July
7th
2022.
Regular
motion
to
approves.
A
A
Any
other
discussion
and
we'll
come
to
avoid
all
those
favorite
approving
those
minutes
say
hi
hi
I
was
opposed
to
motion
series
by
complete.
Second,
three
there's
no
finish
business
in
the
section
before
so
we
have
two
items
in
the
business
section
and
I'll
call
on
the
types
number
5.1,
which
is
foreign.
C
So
if
you
can
you
advance
the
slide?
That's
nice
I'll
get
down
quicker.
C
So
if
you
recall
there
was
a
bit
of
discussion
last
time,
we
got
together
about
signature
requirements
and
we
had
discussed
it
back
in
2020
anyone
and
it
came
up
at
the
staff
level
as
well.
We
are
seeing
the
number
of
contracts
that
we
have
grow
and
so
I
spoke
with
chair
Peterson
about
how
he
would
like
to
handle
a
potential
discussion,
because
there
was
discussion
of
staff
and
a
little
bit
here
at
the
charter
commission
and
it
has
been
a
sex
shopping
Charter
that
we
have
amended
in
the
past.
C
So
the
chair
suggested
that
I
tee
up
a
little
bit
of
background
information
for
the
group
and
then
you
all
could
perhaps
have
some
discussion
and
give
staff
some
staff
being
me
some
direction
about
how
you
may
or
may
not
want
to
proceed.
I
don't
have
a
recommendation,
a
formal
recommendation,
I
I,
if
you
would
like
I'd,
be
happy
to
participate
in
the
discussion
and
provide
additional
information
along
the
way.
C
A
C
I
thought
I'd
hit
on
four
top
areas:
the
Contracting
process.
So
you
have
some
information
about
how
we
wrote
Things
internally
within
the
city
and
then
the
use
of
templates
and
then
the
two
specific
Charter
sections
at
issue
are
at
discussion
and
then
the
delegation
that
was
created
the
delegation
Authority
that
you
all
created
by
amending
the
charter
and
then
how
we
use
that
here
internally
at
the
city.
So
next
slide.
C
So
with
regard
to
volume,
so
to
speak
this
last
year,
I
think
we
processed
931
contracts.
So
nearly
a
thousand
contracts
and
our
volume
increases
year
over
year,
I
say
that,
because
during
2022
as
Adrian
knows,
we
put
in
place
several
efforts
to
decrease
the
number
of
contracts
that
we
were
processing.
And
yet
our
numbers
still
increased.
C
I.
Think
if
I
had
a
guess,
I
think
it's
a
function
of
a
couple
of
things.
We
were
still
coming
out
of
covet
and
there
were
a
lot
of
amendments,
a
lot
of
amendments
of
time
in
the
dollar
amount.
So
that
just
adds
you
know
to
the
overall
volume
but
I
say
it
because
every
year,
our
volume
up
and
we
have
relatively
the
same
amount
of
staff
that
are
working
on
it.
So
we
we
sort
of
feel
it
qualitative
quantitatively
in
our
work.
C
So,
with
regard
to
how
we,
the
Contracting
processors
sort
of
plays
out,
there
are
two
main
ways
that
we
see
contracts
come
into
legal
for
review
and
that
is
by
City
staff,
who
are
asked
by
vendors
or
identify
the
need
to
have
a
contract
in
order
to
at
least
spend
money
or
or
do
something,
and
they
will
generate
a
contract
based
on
most
of
the
time
using
participants.
The
other
way
we
see
it
is
from
vendors.
C
We
have
vendors,
such
as
software
vendors,
who
send
us
their
voluminous
contracts
and
and
what
we
do
in
those
instances
most
often
is
attach
what
we
call
the
cover
page
template,
and
that
includes
the
the
language
that
we
are
required
to
have
in
our
contracts
because
of
state
law.
So
we
had
sort
of
clip
that
to
the
top,
and
then
we
read
it.
You
know
we
read
this
the
Luminous
contract
and
we
try
to
get
them
to
change.
C
For
example,
for
example
the
venue
to
Minnesota
from
here
or
whatever
and
some
other
things,
but
that's
sort
of
the
kind
of
the
two
avenues
that
the
contracts
come
into
legal
and
then
there's
also
something
called
State
contracts
and
other
sort
of
ways
of
Contracting
that
are
out
in
the
world
in
Minnesota,
and
there
are
those
as
well.
But
the
majority
are
through
these
two
and
then
with
once
they
come
into
the
department
for
review.
C
Then
each
of
our
attorneys
is
assigned
various
departments
so,
for
example,
I
work
with
the
HRA
and
the
forward
and
creative
Place
making
and
other
other
people
are
assigned
sort
of
different
departments.
C
We
look
at
the
number
of
contracts
from
the
previous
year
to
decide
how
we're
going
to
average
that
out,
because
our
attorneys
also
review
rfps
which
have
contracts
in
them.
So
well,
once
we
complete
the
RFP
process,
then
it
turns
into
a
contract.
So
we
have
to
review
the
contract
beforehand
because
there's
a
form
of
contract
in
the
RFP.
So
it's
coming
at
us
kind
of
from
a
variety
of
different
sources:
oops
stay
there
and
then-
and
so
the
attorneys
are
reviewing
those
those
contracts.
C
But
then
we
also
have
decided
a
couple
of
years
ago
that
there
was
a
sort
of
a
tranche
of
contract
types
that
our
paralegal
could
review,
because
they
were
overwhelmingly
static
in
nature,
because
they
were
only
requests
to
change
the
dollar
amount
or
extend
the
term.
So
sometimes
stuff
can't
get
done
in
the
time
that
we
originally
thought
it
could
get
done
and
we
have
to
add
another
month
to
it
and
so
I
still
review
them
before
I
sign
them.
C
But
our
paralegal
does
the
paperwork
on
that
and
then
once
the
contract
terms
have
been
finalized
and
there's
sort
of
a
back
and
forth
between
staff
on
that
and
the
contractor
from
the
outside
of
the
city.
Then
there
is
a
internal
electronic
process
that
that
starts.
It
goes
to
the
department
director
who
has
to
sign
off
on
it,
essentially
confirming
that
there
that
this
contract
should
happen,
that
there
are
funds
for
it
that
there
are
that
you
know
nothing
has
changed
along
the
way
and
they
decided
to
do
something
else.
C
So
we
created
this
check
and
balance
in
the
process
during
covet
and
we
decided
to
keep
it
in
place
because
it
works
really
well
and
then,
after
it's
approved,
then
I'm,
the
first
signature
and
I
review
the
the
document
and
I'm
required,
as
you
will
see
in
the
charter,
to
review
and
approve
it,
and
once
I
do
that,
then
it
goes
to
typically
the
mayor,
city
manager
or
just
city
manager
or
just
the
department
head
kind
of.
C
We
have
a
a
signature
Matrix
about
who
signs
my
contract
through
our
requirements
of
state
law
or
in
the
financial
management
policies.
Sometimes
I
see
things
that
need
to
be
fixed
and
we
don't
perceive
to
contract
signatures.
It
goes
back
and
there's
fixing
that
gets
done
and
then
and
then
I'll
sign
it
next
slide.
So
you
might
think
how
many
templates
does
a
city
like
besides
Bloomington
need
I
did
some
math.
C
Earlier
this
weekend
we
have
about
50
templates,
which
might
sound
like
a
lot
I
thought
like
wow,
a
lot
of
templates
but
they're
kind
of
in
categories,
and
then
there
are
within
those
categories.
There
are
like
sort
of
somebody
wants
like
engineering,
for
example.
They
want
like
a
couple
of
different
basic
things,
but
they've
got
a
little
variety,
so
they've
got
like
a
whole
bunch
of
different
kinds
of
fruit,
but
they're
all
fruit.
C
So
again,
I
gave
you
some
examples.
Here
we
have
a
lease.
We
have
a
couple
leases.
We
have
some
engineering
Tech
contracts
like
I,
just
referred
to
the
fruit
metaphor.
There
we
have
special
events
and
those
talk
about
policing
and
garbage
and
all
the
things
you
would
think
of,
and
then
we
have
performances
and
I
gave
this
as
an
example
to
the
chair.
When
we
were
talking
about
this
topic
as
something
that
could
perhaps
be
not
really
need
my
signature.
So
this
is
like
the
piano
playing
contract,
the
teddy
bear
band.
C
You
know
those
kinds
of
contracts
for
typically
smaller
amounts
of
money
and
typically
very
little
changes
in
the
template,
and
then
we
have
a
large
large
category
of
service
contracts.
So
this
is
everything
from
delivering
gravel
to
the
legal
contracts
and
the
whole
gamut.
Those
are
just
some
examples.
We
have
lots
of
other
ones,
but
those
are
just
some
template
examples.
C
So
what
city
staff
do
is
they
select
the
template
that
fits
their
needs
and
we
we
have
trainings
with
them
to
to
know
how
to
which
one
to
pick
and
then
if
they
have
questions,
it
goes
paralegal
and
she
helps
them
answer
those
questions
and
then
we
have
a
form
where
they
fill
in
the
details,
so
they
put
in
the
name
of
the
vendor.
C
They
sort
of
pick
out
the
kind
of
insurance
that
they
need,
based
on
the
training
that
we've
given
them,
and
then
it
goes
to
the
attorney
the
assigned
attorney
to
review
it
or
in
the
alternative.
If
they're
not
using
our
contract,
if
it's
a
vendor
contract,
then
the
then
the
staff
will
send
that
vendor
contract
directly
to
the
attorney
and
then
we
will
kind
of
negotiate.
The
general
rule
of
lawyering
is
that
lawyers
talk
to
lawyers
and
staff
talk
to
staff.
C
So
if
it's
something
that
the
lawyers
think
that
the
staff
can
work
out
like
details,
then
the
staff
will
work
that
out
like
what
time
or
how
much.
And
if
it's
lawyer
stuff,
like
insurance
and
indemnification
and
subcontracting
and
the
lawyers
talk
to
lawyers
in
general-
that's
very,
very
simplistic,
but
that's
kind
of
how
it
goes.
C
C
We
don't
have
that
that
much
insurance,
and
so
we
have
a
little
process
in
place
where
we
can
work
through
those
challenges
and
then
every
single
contract
that
requires
a
certain
kind
of
insurance
has
a
Certificate
of
Insurance
requested,
that's
reviewed
and
entered
into
our
system
and
then
and
then
it's
gets
routed
for
signature.
C
So
there's
a
pretty
robust
process
in
place
and
we
review
it
on
an
annual
basis.
We
seek
feedback
from
staff.
How
is
it
going?
What
should
be
fixed?
What's
not
going
well
and
we
tweak
it.
We
also
review
our
templates
on
an
annual
basis,
both
for
sort
of
readability.
We
try
to
keep
the
readability
at
like
a
somewhere
between
a
high
school
and
a
college
level
of
English
for
readability
and
then
sometimes
there's
just
changes
in
the
law.
C
We
have
to
just
change
things
and
and
then
also
too
sometimes
we
just
get
a
lot
of
feedback
and
feedback
from
people
that
they
don't
like
certain
provisions
and
we
think
about
sort
of.
Could
we
do
this
better?
Could
we
do
this
in
a
way
that
is
easier
for
people
to
understand?
Could
we
do
this
in
a
way
that
costs
them
less
kind
of
those
sorts
of
things?
C
So
that's
background
on
how
we
sort
of
process
contracts
of
city-
and
this
is
these-
are
the
two
Provisions
in
the
charter
that
relate
to
contracts.
C
Well,
there's
lots
of
them,
but
these
are
the
two
that
are
at
issue
with
regard
to
the
role
of
the
attorney
and
I
highlighted
the
word
ability
which,
unfortunately,
can't
see
it
with
this
bright
light,
but
that
black
word
there
is
the
word
delegate,
and
that
was
the
language
that
I
came
and
asked
you
all
to
to
look
at
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
you
and
what
you
did
was
create
this
delegation
Authority,
which
which
I
requested,
because
even
if
I
was
out
of
the
office,
there
was
no
like.
C
If
I
was
on
vacation.
There
was
no
mechanism
for
anyone
else
to
sign
and
when
you
get
to
the
volumes
that
we're
at
it's
just
a
lot,
it's
just
a
lot.
So
it
would
have
been
fine.
You
know,
probably
now
with
DocuSign
I
could
have
just
you
know.
C
It's
always
that
internet
I
guess
I
just
marched
on,
but
back
then,
when
we
were
working
on
this,
we
didn't
have
things
like
DocuSign
and
I
was
like
frantically
signing
things
before
I
would
leave
for
vacation
and
then
everything
would
just
sort
of
Screech
to
a
halt.
While
I
was
gone,
which
is
just
you
know,
could
you
all
created
this
delegation
Authority?
And
if
you
go
to
the
next
page,
this
is
I
created
a
policy,
and
this
is
the
policy
that
was.
C
We
had
two
amendments
because
originally
you
had
me
able
to
delegate
it
to
an
assistant
attorney
and
then
our
office
grew
and
who
created
deputies.
So
we
had
this
weird
thing
where
the
deputies,
my
deputies
couldn't
sign,
I
had
to
give
it
to
their
reports,
and
so
we
cleaned
that
up
and
now
it's
a
licensed
attorney
who
I
can
delegate
to,
but
typically
I
delegated
to
the
civil
attorney
on
the
Civil,
the
Civil
deputies,
who
I
Peter
that
many
of
you
have
met
Peter
I,
delegate
to
Peter.
C
We
work
on
our
vacation
so
that
we're
not
out
of
the
office
at
the
same
time
most
of
the
time
and
then,
if
we
ever
are
I
typically
delegate,
then
to
the
most
senior
civil
attorney,
which
in
this
case
would
be
Kevin
for
those
of
you
that
know
Kevin,
and
so
here
is
what
the
delegation
says.
C
If
so,
I'm
going
to
be
out
of
the
office
for
more
than
three
days,
then
I'm
required
to
delegate
and
I
do
that
in
an
email,
I
lay
out
the
process
and
who's
going
to
be
signing
and
and
then
they
have
that
responsibility
while
I'm
away,
if
in
the
event
that
I'm,
it's
unscheduled,
you
know
I
get
hit
by
a
bus
or
something
Marvel.
C
Sort
of
proxy
process-
I
I,
use
this
every
year,
I
take
an
annual
vacation.
Every
August
and
I
use
this
every
year
and
it
works
great
I
periodically
take
other
vacations
and
it
works
well.
C
I
will
say
that
if
something
happens
in
your
brain
and
in
your
in
your
person,
where
you
have
to
sign
on
that
line,
every
time
that
you
review
and
approve
the
contract
and
I
have
collected
feedback
from
our
attorneys,
who
have
had
to
do
it
while
I'm
away
and
they
have
a
newfound
appreciation
for
my
responsibility
to
sign
and
so
I
I
appreciate
the
ability
to
have
this
delegation
and
I
think
it
serves
a
good
purpose
and
I
think
it's
very
reasonable
approach
that
we're
taking
at
this
point
and
it
and
it
works
well.
C
C
That
are
these
very
simple
amendments.
You
know
to
to
extend
time.
I
could
also
perhaps
get
you
numbers
on.
You
know
how
many
teddy
bear
band
contracts.
There
are
music
for
fifty
dollars.
If
that's
something
that
you're
interested.
If
we
do
these
fabulous
contracts
every
year
for
River
Rendezvous,
which
are
our
favorite
contracts
in
legal,
they
could
probably
be
batched
out.
C
You
know
they're
for
somebody
who's
giving
demonstrations
of
how
to
write.
You
know
things
like
that,
but
then
again,
we've
talked
about
this
internally
like
does
it
really
matter
if
I
just
keep
signing
these,
because
every
now
and
then
I
discover
something
and
I'm
like?
Maybe
we
should
talk
about
this,
so
I
don't
have
a
please
change
this
kind
of
recommendation
anymore,
but
if
you
did
want
me
to
come
up
with
some
specific
recommendations,
I
I
would
have.
E
Some
ideas,
the
I'm.
E
C
E
Yeah,
because
if
that
word
only
applies
when
you
outside
the
office-
and
that
seems
to
me
it's
a
factors,
your
ability
to
run
your
legal
practice
inside
the
office
when
you're
here
questions,
you
know
just
the
other
comment
that
I
have
on
those
simple
contracts
and
it's
a
reminder
in
our
business
is
that
is.
E
So
the
question
I
have
is
that
those
90
contracts
or
whatever,
if
you
were
to
sit
back
and
score
them
really
for
a
practical
interest,
how
often
blows
up
yeah
with
other
communities
yeah
and
you
put
them
in
ABC
Pools,
because
I
think
that
kind
of
answers.
The
question
as
to
what
has
to
be
looked
down?
What
does
it.
C
Sure
I
I
I
give
that
a
point
that
you
just
made
a
lot
of
thoughts
on
a
regular
basis,
because
our
city
toward
cap
liability
does
not
change
on
a
50
teddy
bear
contract
and
a
five
million
dollar
contract.
We
have
the
same
tort
cap
liability.
C
Right
so
I
live
in
the
world
of
issue
spotting
and
and
a
simple.
A
one-page
contract
doesn't
necessarily
have
less
Financial
Risk
to
the
city
than
a
25.
A
A
If
there's
something
coming
up,
while
you're
out
of
topic,
HRA
thing
or
whatnot,
are
the
people
who,
how
well
versed,
are
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
potentially
signing
while
you're
out?
How
well
versed?
Are
they
typically
in
some
of.
C
The
more
complicated
one
definition
we
have
to
agree
from
that
chair,
I
before
I
go
out
of
town
for
any.
Like
a
you
know,
a
vacation
or
something
two
weeks
before
I
go
out
of
town,
typically
I,
send
an
email
to
my
executive
staff
and
and
to
attorneys
and
stay
out
and
so
I'm
going
to
be
out
of
town
but
and
say
I'm,
going
out
of
town
I'm
going
out
of
town
these
days.
C
If
you
have
something
that
you
need
me
to
work
on
to
talk
to
me
about,
please
do
that
by
X8,
so
that
I
have
enough
time
to
get
it
done
before.
I
leave
for
the
for.
C
You
know
in
part
for
that
purpose,
and
then
we
always
schedule
a
meeting
like
a
day
or
two
before
I
leave
with
the
deputy,
typically
the
deputies
or
if
it's
going
to
be
somebody
else,
and
we
run
through
all
of
the
sort
of
pending
business
and
we
because
of
the
workflow,
and
you
see
that
sort
of
back
and
forth
that
we
have,
we
typically
know
what's
coming,
and
so
we
either
get
it
done
before.
I
go
or
the
person's
been
briefed
to
know
what's
happening
or
it
waits
four
days.
C
C
D
Like
would
you
be
like
the
question
was
like:
how
do
you
prepare
before
me
was?
How
do
you
prepare
like
for
being
able
to
leave?
Are
they
are
they
well
versed
enough
and
being
able
to
review
the
contract?
If
you
didn't
have
the
ability
to
be
able
to
kind
of
prep
before
you
leave,
would
you
still
feel
pretty
pretty
good
about
it
or.
C
Chair,
we
have
a
structure
in
place
where
the
there's
I'm
a
City,
attorney
that
we
have
two
deputies,
one
over
the
Criminal
Division
one
over
the
Civil
Division.
And
then
we
have
a
manager
over
the
compliance
Division.
And
then
we
have
a
manager
over
the
risk
of
litigation.
C
So
I
have
two
deputies
and
like
sort
of
four
managers
and
the,
although
they're
sort
of
in
their
in
their
columns,
so
to
speak.
They
are
all
licensed
attorneys
and
they
they.
They
have
the
capacity
to
know
who
to
go
to
to
get
the
answers
that
they
need
when
they
need
that.
The
other
thing
is
that,
because
our
process
is
structured
as
it
is,
and
that
people
are
sort
of
assigned
different
departments,
people
develop
specialized
knowledge
in
those
areas,
and
we
all
know
what
that
is.
C
So
when
something
comes
in,
for
example,
on
a
nuanced
human
rights
issue,
I
go
to
Peter
because
Peter
used
to
be
the
council
for
the
human
rights
department.
So
he
likely
knows
the
answer
and.
E
C
Know
each
other's
disparities
with
specialization,
so
we
typically
already
do
that,
and
the
one
other
thing
I'll
add
is
that
on
Tuesdays
we
have
our
civil
meeting
and
we
run
through
sort
of
everything.
That's
going
on
on
the
agenda
on
this
upcoming
city
council
agendas,
as
well
as
like
things
that
are
happening,
that
we
want
to
talk
through
or
kind
of
brainstorm,
a
solutions
to
so
we
all
have
a
fairly
decent
understanding.
What
each
other
is
working
on.
C
Chair
I
I
received
a
request
from
staff
that
I
work
with
to
to
come
up
with
a
to
ask
you
all
to
remove
the
delegation
and
I
talked
internally
about
not
the
delegation.
Excuse
me
the
signature
requirement.
C
We
are
one
of
the
few
cities
that
hasn't
yeah
and
and
sort
of
one
asking
me
like:
do
we
really
still
need
it,
and
so
I
spoke
with
the
chair
of
an
advanced
at
this
meeting
about
I,
don't
know
six
weeks
ago,
or
so
we
talked
through
it,
sort
of
the
pros
and
the
cons
and
the
benefits
and
and
his
recommendation.
C
The
chair's
recommendation
was
that
we
have
a
discussion
and
get
your
all's
feedback
and
I
could
share
like
you
could
tell
me
to
come
back
next
year
with
a
specific
edit.
If
you
wanted,
or
you
could
say,
everything's
fine
Soldier
on
you
know.
The
other
idea
that
we
talked
about
is
the
chair
and
I
talked
about.
Is
that
the
the
charter
language
says
that
I
have
to
review
and
approve?
That's.
C
That's
another
thing
that
we
had
talked
about
many
years
ago
for
those
of
you
that
have
been
under
transmission
for
a
while
is
that
other
other
jurisdictions
have
language
reviewed
as
to
form
and
so,
for
example,
a
lot
of
the
counties
have
that
reviewed
as
before.
C
So
if,
for
example,
if
they're
using
the
template,
I've
reviewed
those
forms
a
contracts
in
that's
a
sort
of
a
different
different
kind
of
signature
attachments,
then
reviewed
and
approved
at
that
time
that
this
group
talked
about
this
I
posed
this
this
edit
a
couple
of
years
ago,
this
Charter
commission
has
an
entity
did
not
want
that
change.
C
They
wanted
reviewed
and
approved,
and
the
chair
and
I
talked
about
that
as
well
and
and
decided
not
to
bring
that
forward
as
a
formal
recommendation.
But
you'd
rather
have
this
discuss.
A
A
A
At
that
point,
that
didn't
kind
of
go
through
the
normal
processes
in
the
city
ended
up,
causing
quite
a
bit
of
heartburn
to
that
happen,
and
so
this
this
was.
This
was
put
in
the
charter
as
kind
of
a
barn
door.
Closing
exercise
around
that
particular
ly,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
you
have
to
do
is
you
have
to
look
at
the
fact.
It's
not
very
common
in
converters.
E
D
Yeah
I
do
not
disagree
with
that
idea.
Also
just
wanted
to
share
I
guess
with
this
process.
It
feels
very
familiar
and
important
to
checks
and
balances
and
I
appreciate
what
it
is
and
what
it
does
and
I
just
yeah
I
I'm
for
how
it
is
and
keeping
it
that
way.
I
guess.
A
What
you're
thinking
about
is
something
at
work
that
drives
me
nuts,
and
it
was
a
very
similar
kind
of
thing.
It
was
a
knee-jerk
reaction
to
an
isolated
kind
of
incident
and
it's
like
it
just
carries
when.
A
C
A
When
maybe
there's
not
a
need
any
longer,
as
I
didn't
know,
the
background
helpful
for
that.
So
if,
if
the
majority
of
the
Commissioners
commissioner
agrees,
it
seems
like
there's
kind
of
two
a
couple
ideas
floating
around
one
is
one
that
the
attorney
and
I
talked
about.
A
little
bit
was
to
keep
the
overall
process,
but
try
to
carve
out
some
set
of
things
that
are,
you
know,
could
not
have
the
science
so,
like
you
could
say,
like
teddy
bear
bad,
but
will
you
know
well
training
and
stuff
like
that?
A
Have
a
long
list
of
things
more
realistically,
like
dollar
amount
below
this?
It's
a
template.
Thanks
like
that.
No
and
we
could
either
choose
to
to
put
that
Charter
or
we
could
say
to
the
City
attorney
that
it's
up
to
the
City
attorney
to
kind
of
decide.
What,
where
that
line?
Is
that
that,
as
a
matter
of
policy,
they
would
decide
where
that
line
is
the
other
option
that
we
could
have
is
we
could
say
that
you
know
in
a
kind
of
modern
offense,
that's
around
the
way
it
is
today.
A
Does
this
really
belong
in
the
charter
anymore
and
I?
Don't
commissioner
Kohler
that
kind
of
goes
against
what
you
were
saying
there,
but
okay
good,
but
what
I'm
I
kind
of
do
is
to
I
think
we.
We
have
to
we're
going
to
need
to
vote
on
something
today
to
direct
the
attorney
to
come
back
to
be
a
little
bit
more
specific
than
just
like.
Oh
changing.
It
is
folks,
have
thoughts
on
before
they
fall
off,
especially.
F
You're,
putting
any
specific
dollar
amount,
I
think
we've
got
that
elsewhere
in
the
policies
and
so
forth.
But
to
put
it
in
here
gets
to
be
micromanaging
but
and
I
guess:
I!
Don't
have
that
much
of
an
issue
with
the
word
that
was
there
something
specific
that
that
staff
was
suggesting
that
that
be
changed
to.
C
Adrian,
could
you
go
back
a
slide?
Yes,
I.
Think
chair,
there's
probably
two
different
ways
to
tackle
any
particular
edits
in
the
future.
One
would
be
to
edit
the
charter
language
here
and
you
know,
for
example,
remove
review
and
approve,
and
just
say,
review
as
to
form,
for
example,
what
what
or
the
other
way
to
tackle
it
might
be
the
more
in
line
with
what
commissioner
Axtell
said,
which
would
be
to
potentially
broaden
the
delegation
so
that
it
would
allow
for
not
necessarily
cut
less
contracts
to
have
to
be
signed.
C
All
of
them
would
have
to
be
signed
by
attorney,
but
some
subset
could
be
signed.
The
delegation
to
sign
them
could
be
delegated
to
the
attorney
that
worked
on
them,
as
opposed
to
me
for
some
subset
of
them
and
I
could
figure
out,
I
could
sort
of
run
some
numbers.
We
run
the
organ
we
have.
The
numbers
run
by
department
and
by
by
person
who
works
on
them
and
I
could
have
them
run
by
type
of
type
of
contract
as
well.
C
I
know,
for
example,
that
the
paralegal
that
works
on
only
is
allowed
to
work
on
one
subset.
So
that's
why
I
knew
that
number,
but
I
could
sort
of
run
the
numbers
and
see,
for
example,
is
there
a
tranche
that
we
could
put
into
the
delegation
that
would
broaden
that
delegation
I
could
bring
that
back
next
year.
A
A
A
A
If,
if
we're
seeing
the
same
contracts
kind
of
year
after
year,
they
do
not
change
or
do
not
change
substantially
and
I
I
can
see
like
new
things
might
require
some
extra
attention
the
first
time
through
and
if
it's
generally
kind
of
a
repeat
with
some
changes
of
the
contract
appears
to
me
that
might
reduce
the
risk
level
and
can
be
something
that
could
be
reconsidered
and
then,
finally,
because
I
had
the
same
question
about
whether
this
should
even
be
in
the
charter
group.
A
The
way
it
is
and
I
know
you're
very
good
at
presenting
sometimes
a
couple
of
options,
and
one
might
be.
Here's
what
we
here's,
what
would
staff
is
recommending
if
we
were
to
keep
it
in
the
charter
and
here's
an
option
where
it
is
alluded
to
in
the
charter?
Somehow,
and
then
it
becomes
more
of
a
staff
and
city
council
initiative
to
set
policy,
wonder
if
that
makes
sense.
E
F
One
hand
when
you're
talking
about
raiding
into
risk.
It
reminds
me
of
I
live
in
the
world
of
goose,
gradings
and
and
all
of
them,
which
means,
in
the
simplistic
sense,
who's
going
to
sign
off
on
improve.
Please
reuse
it
the
end
of
my
please,
who
signed
up
they
ultimately
how
the
bank
sets
to
be
reserved,
improved
strength
and
stability
and
so
forth.
So
there's
a
whole
lot
of
Matrix
in
there
at
that
level,
bring
someone
else.
F
A
Just
have
people
kind
of
do,
I,
agree,
they're,
going
to
kind
of
be
do
I
agree
with
that
statements,
and
this
is
to
kind
of
give
the
training
some
Direction.
So
the
first
thing
I'm
going
to
ask,
is
in
6.07
it
was
suggested
that
instead
of
saying,
must
be
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
City
attorney
to
say
it
must
be
approved
as
the
form.
E
D
D
E
That
it's
not
black,
it's
not
white!
It's
must
yep
so
being
able
to
take
those
types
of
things.
Those
types
of
consideration,
I,
think
is
really
important.
Okay
and
and
again,
my
point
is:
is
that
to
get
this
give
staff
more
flexibility?
Allow
efficiency,
maybe
save
some
time
about
increased
our
risk
is
that
if
this
could
be
redone
and
brought
into
the
year
2023
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Just
just
a
business
decision.
A
So,
regarding
that
language,
there,
where
it
says,
must
be
reviewed
and
approved
when
I
ask
people
if
you're,
if
you're,
okay,
with
considering
a
change
that
changes
it
to
kind
of
the
more
standard
form
of
larger
organizations
sound
like
they
use,
which
is,
must
be
reviewed
as
to
perform
just
raise
your
hand
if
you're
going
to
be
reviewed
as
what
as
to
form
and
raise
your
hand
if
you
wouldn't
support
that
Fellowship
requests
for
sure
okay.
So
there
there's
a
problem.
A
To
the
point
that
commissioner
Axtell
was
making
around
around
kind
of
the
Lost
language
in
here,
how
many
people
would
support
you
know
some
form
of
a
proposed
a
little
bit,
but
things
that
were
assessed
to
be
low
risk
and
I?
Think
to
commission
a
Thorson's
point.
A
We
have
to
let
the
staff
make
that
decision,
because
we
can't
it's
not
a
charter
question
thing
to
do
but
be
able
to
take
low
risk
effects
and
either
have
them
be
assignable
by
any
attorney
in
the
attorney's
office
or
thing
for
things
that
were
low
enough
risk.
Maybe
it
could
be
delegated
to
department
heads
if
you
decided
that
that
was
something
you
wanted
to
do.
Who
would
who
would
support
that
notion?
A
C
Specifically,
but
there
will
be
a
proposal
like,
for
example,
extension
says
to
time.
E
A
One
more
yeah,
because
I
think
about
that
I
I
do
think
about
some
things:
some
contracts
giving
renewed
on
a
very
on
an
annual
basis.
I
even
made
the
comment.
Those
are
the
ones
that
maybe
required
less
of
a
look,
because
it's
we've
gone
through
it
year
after
year.
On
the
other
hand,
would
it
be
reasonable
to
put
in
a
for
some
of
those
students
and
they
could
be
large
amounts
of
money?
It's
just
the
same
contractor,
doing
something
sort
of
a
five-year
three-year
review
of
votes.
C
We're
going
to
take
a
quick
stop.
Does
that
make
80
sense,
chair
I
will
offer
I
didn't
mention
this
earlier,
but
we
generally
do
not
go
for
contracts
longer
than
five
years,
just
as
a
general
policy.
There
are
some
types
of
contracts
that
just
inherently
are
for
longer.
Like
the
state
contract.
You
get
Post-it
notes
and
such,
but
even
just
this
week,
I
was
having
a
conversation
about
our
our
operative
purchasing
contracts
and
I
asked
the
attorney.
I
said
when's,
the
last
time
you
looked
at
please
like.
C
Maybe
they
should
maybe
they
could
use
a
little
cleanup
and
maybe
we
could
all
be
reminded
what
they
say
and
how
many
we
have-
and
you
know
just
kind
of
like
do
a
little
bit
of
analysis,
because
we
generally
don't
go
for
contracts
longer
than
five
years
and
we
also
don't.
We
also
have
some
internal
sort
of
not
a
self
policies
too
strong
of
a
word
but
sort
of
the
kind
of
the
kinds
of
contracts
that
auto
renew.
A
Okay,
so
I
think
in
the
things
I
ask
people
to
kind
of
react
to
here.
To
give
this
dance
some
feedback
I
tried
to
capture
the
ideas
that
simply
give
interaction.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
don't
do
the
same
thing.
Foreign.
A
And
so
you
know,
since,
since
the
last
time
there
was
any
sort
of
kind
of
systematic
work
of
the
charter
was
the
there
was
a
set
of
Charter
amendments
related
to
kind
of
like
Freestyle.
It
yeah
sure.
A
One
of
the
things
that
I've
thought
about
for
a
couple
years,
but
during
the
pandemic
I
didn't
bring
it
up
because
we
were
four,
oh
four,
okay,
so
it's
20.
A
is
that
it
might
be
worthwhile
for
us
to
set
up
kind
of
several
your
project
of
going
through
the
charter
and
talking
about
parts
of
the
charter.
Looking
at
it.
Reading
it
and
saying:
does
this
still
make
sense
to
having
the
charters
we're
proposing
it
over
several
years?
Because
the
charter
is
a
big
thing.
I
don't
want
to
have
please
buy.
My
personal
thing
is
I.
Don't
want
to
have
meetings
that
run
until
10
o'clock
in
the
night.
A
You
know
week
after
week
to
go
through
the
whole
thing,
but
it
would
allow
people
to
learn
about
the
charter,
so
it's
going
along.
So
there's
a
timeline
that
the
staff
put
together
on
the
next
slide.
That's
just
intended
to
be
kind
of
a
prototype
and
I
think
this
is
based
on
weighing
the
number
of
pages
of
each
section
of
the.
So
sorry.
A
I
think
this
I
think
this
is
this
is
intended
to
be
roughly
based
on
the
kind
of
sizes
of
each
section
to
create
something
that
we
could
kind
of
bite
off,
and
it
could
either
be
something
that
we
do
as
part
of
this
meeting
I
mean,
or
we
could
look
at
that
and
say
we're
going
to
meet
maybe
two
times
or
three
times
and
have
a
couple
hours
each
time
to
talk
about
Parts,
but
we
could
decide
that
we
break
into
little
committees.
A
Each
committee
goes
off
and
looks
at
it
come
back
and
make
a
report
I
think
we
could
be
completely
flexible
on
that.
But
what
I
wanted
to
do
tonight
was
just
to
get
people's
feedback
on
the
idea
of
kind
of
going
through
and
walking
through
the
chart
again.
So
you
can
see
whether
people
felt
that
was
a
worthwhile
thing.
D
Commissioner
Peterson
I
love
this
I
get
very
excited
about
it,
I'm
curious
if
we
might
be
able
to
align
it
with
with
our
terms.
You
know
like
we're
here
for
three
years
is:
there
is
the
terms
when
we
renew,
or
as
long
as
four
years
I
didn't
know.
If
I
could
challenge
us
to,
even
you
know,
rethink
how
we
might
approach
it
and
be
able
to
do
it
within
a
term
length.
C
C
The
rules
of
procedure
which
I
propose
to
tackle
next
year
are
have
last
been
edited
when
I
was
a
senior
in
college
a
while
ago,
and
they
confused
a
lot
of
updating,
I
could
I
would
I
I
provided
copies
tonight.
You
all
could
take
a
look
at
them
just
sort
of
on
your
own
time
and
at
the
2024
meeting
I
could
bring
proposed
edits.
The
reason
I
suggest
this
process
is
for
those
of
you
that
were
tuned
into
the
City
Council
meetings.
Where
we
updated
our
rules
or
procedure.
C
It
was
I
think
an
18
month
process
now
much
different
situation
there
and
you
know
there's
with
many
more
pages
than
ours,
but
this
particular
document
I
think
could
gobble
up
a
lot
of
time
and
perhaps
wouldn't
be
as
meaningful
as
marching
through
more
chapters.
And
if
you
look
at
chapter
one
of
the
charter,
very
short
chapter
and
I
put
those
two
together
on
purpose
because
of
house
less
time
could
be
gobbled
up
at
the
rules
of
procedure.
C
So
chapter
one
has,
for
example,
you
know
the
boundaries
of
the
city,
the
powers
of
the
city,
and
then
the
charter
is
a
Public
Act.
We
can
tackle
that
in
you
know,
10
minutes
until
I
explained
it
really
it's
the
all-powers
clause,
which
is
the
juicy
one
1.02.
So
that's
one
proposed
time.
Saving
measure
and
I
tried
to
kind
of
group
topics
together,
but
I
could
I
could
grow
and
I
could
sort
of
be
more
aggressive
and
trend.
B
Have
a
question
about
terms
not
all
over
the
same
term,
correct
correct
so
for
somebody
someone's
going
to
not
make
it
through
you're
trying
to
align
this
thing
up
into
a
term.
It's
gonna,
some
people
would
get
cured
and
some
people
wouldn't
anyway
so
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
it's
the
same
level
of
importance
for
everybody,.
D
A
Most
people
separate
people
pretty
much
people,
people
come
and
try
it
out,
I,
think
and
Welcome
to
our
new
member
I'm
here
for
an
hour
just
about
some
people
come
my
experiences.
Some
people
come
and
try
it
out
and
they're
lucky
this
is
this?
Isn't
my
game,
you
know
and
then
there's
people
who
have
been
involved
for
a
long
time
on
the
table
and
there's
just
a
lot
of
folks.
G
C
Okay,
chair
I'll,
offer
that
we
did
the
chief
judge,
who
you
all
are
appointed
by
if
we
could
clean
up
the
very,
very
staggered
terms
that
we
have
as
just
a
way
of
being
more
administratively
efficient
for
our
process
of
filling
and
interviewing
and
all
the
all
the
stuff
that
goes
into
you're
starting
and
the
the
chief
judge
informed
us
that
he
did
that
he
was
not
of
the
opinion
that
he
had
the
authority
understate
a
lot
to
do
that.
C
I
think
that
that's
a
reasonable
position
to
take
and
the
conversation
ended
there.
So
absence
of
state
law,
change,
I,
think
I
think
we're
sort
of
stuck
with
the
staggeredness
of
our.
D
Yeah
I
guess
I'll,
just
like
final
night
I
was
thinking.
You
know
as
a
commissioner.
D
After
serving
terms
or
anything,
it's
it'd
be
fulfilling
to
be
able
to
say
that
during
my
term,
I've
I've
gone
through
and
we've
worked
it
and
you
know
it
just
seemed
like
a
really
appreciative
thing,
and
maybe
we
could
even
make
it
cyclical.
You
know
so
that
everybody
that
serves
as
a
commissioner
would
have.
You
know
what
I
mean
the
privilege.
A
Well,
let
me
let
me
ask
a
question
before
I
call
you
if
we
because
I
want
to
react
to
commissioner
Culver's
idea
a
little
bit,
we
agreed
as
a
group
that
we
were
going
to
be
twice
or
three
times
a
year
to
be
able
to
have
the
conversation.
It
seems
like
that,
would
give
us
a
little
bit
more
Broadway
to
address
what
was
talking
about
it.
A
That's
a
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
change
in
kind
of
the
standing
obligations.
I
wanted
to
ask
folks,
for
example,
if
we
were
gonna
we're
gonna,
try
and
speed
this
up
a
little
bit
of
the
way
we
did.
It
is
that
we
looked
in
meant
twice
or
three
times.
A
A
Even
if
we
were
the
ones
who
you
know
brought
it
up,
so
I
would
first
of
all
I
I
like
the
idea
a
lot,
but
it
reads
as
it
revisiting
this
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
more
quickly
through
it
and,
if
at
all
possible,
for
that
very
reason,
I
just
think
it
keeps
us
all
a
little
bit
and
and
just
to
comment
on
the
standard
terms.
I
can
see
some
advantages
to
bigger
terms.
A
Also,
so
not
not
if,
in
my
view,
not
a
huge
deal
but
I
would
weigh
in
say,
after
a
big
question,
willing
to
meet
some
extra
time
to
hear
I
to
the
degree
that
we
can.
You
know
every
once
in
a
while.
We
end
up
meeting
sometimes
during
the
year,
because
that
issue
comes
up
and
the
degree
to
which
revisiting
the
charter
can
prevent
something
that,
because
of
changes
in
in
law
or
changes
to
who
knows
what
out
there
in
the
in
the
environment.
If
we
can
be
ahead
of.
G
Some
of
that
thought
process
that
would
be
in
fact,
okay.
Thank
you.
Mr
Taylor,
the
just
as
a
point
of
information.
I
was
up
for
reappointment
this
year
and
I
did
get
to
interview
with
the
chief
judge
yeah,
which
I
thought
was
very
nice,
very
good
I.
A
F
But
you
would
get
maneuvered
to
look
at
focus
on
something
on
there.
So
as
we
look
at
this
and
I'm
wondering
if
it's
possible
before
the
next
meeting,
whatever
it
is,
there's
some
things
that
you
see
is
there
something
that
you
can
do.
Redline
make
comments
on
there.
That
are
just
that.
Could
speed
up
the
efficiency
of
discussion
from.
C
Because
we
have
a
new
member,
but
also
because
it's
been
a
you
know,
almost
many
months
since
we
last
met
I'll
remind
you
all
that
as
a
process
internally
at
the
city
level,
every
sort
of
January,
February
I
seek
I,
give
the
executive
team,
the
manager,
sort
of
a
clock
and
say
I,
want
you
all
to
read
an
assignment
or
read
the
charter.
C
Again,
your
annual
reminder
to
read
the
charter
and
then
flag,
things
that
you
think
are
out
of
date
need
to
be
fixed,
Etc
and
so
in
the
this
is
I'm
coming
up
on
my
I
think
seventh
year
of
being
here
at
the
city
and
I
think
this
is
the
first
year
that
I
have
come
to
the
Charter
commission
without
edits.
C
So
we
have
done
some
cleanup,
I'm,
confident
that
there's
other
stuff
that
could
be
cleaned
up,
but
we
we
have
done
some
sort
of
updating
both
to
address
statutory
changes
but
also
kind
of
procedure.
Modernization
or
I
spoke
on
a
charter
commission
panel
a
couple
of
months
ago
and
I
did
a
kind
of
a
deep
dive
on
sort
of
the
history
of
Charters
and
many
years
ago.
Many
many
years
I
think
it
was
Dave
Kennedy
who
drafted
a
model
Charter
and
now
it
would
be
way
out
of
date
at
this
point.
C
But
many
cities
adopted
that
and
it
was
sort
of
very
common
and
cities
like
I,
know
that
you
know
I
can
kind
of
always
go
to
the
same
chapter
when
I'm
looking
for
stuff,
because
most
cities
have
it
all
the
same
thing
and
and
that
kind
of
a
document
hasn't
been
sort
of
done
in
a
long
time,
but
I
think
it's
an
interesting
exercise
and
to
do
a
more
sort
of
thorough
analysis
of
what
is
everybody's.
You
know
of
the
finance
chapters.
You
know.
C
We
picked
some
cities
that
we
that
we
sort
of
you
know
some
some
I
don't
know
five
cities
or
something
that
we're
going
to
look
to
look
at
their
Charters.
C
In
some
cases,
we're
going
to
find
languages
just
like
ours
and
chapter
four
or
whatever,
for
example,
and
in
other
cases
we're
going
to
find
pretty
different
examples
and
when
I
do
do
that,
when
I'm
making
a
recommendation,
I
will
do
that
exercise
and
look
at
a
bunch
of
different
cities.
Charters
and
how
they
tackled
it
into
good
ideas
and
also
sort
of
issue
spotting,
and
if
I
find
something
that
I
that
another
city
is
doing
kind
of
pretty
drastically
different
than
us.
C
I
will
often
call
that
attorney
and
say:
hey
your
language
is
quite
a
bit
different.
What
you
know
is,
do
you
like
it?
Is
it
working?
Well,
do
you
have
problems
with
it,
because
sometimes
you
find
out
like
they
want
to
change
it
too,
so
that
kind
of
stuff
is
going
on
behind
the
scenes
before
I
bring
something
to
you.
So
I
could
do
that
same
kind
of
exercise
as
we
March
through
the
charter.
C
I
think
that
the
task
of
doing
it
in
its
totality
would
be
a
I
can
do
it
if
you
want
me
to,
but
it
would
be
a
pretty
tremendous
undertaking.
I
can
certainly
do
it.
I
think
that
it
might
be
more
helpful
if
we,
for
example,
got
some
prioritization
of
like
where,
where
would
you
like
me
to
focus
just
love,
it
I
would
have
a
little
bit
more
guidance
on
how
to
proceed
because
of
all
the
stuff
that
we
have
already
edited
over.
These.
A
Yes
and
we,
if
this
ends
up
being
a
fairly
long
process,
obviously
we
still
have
the
option
if
they
come
to
us,
because
it
needs
to
of
react
to
things
that
need
to
be
changed
as
it
as
it
has
in
the
past.
So
I
guess
that
would
be
I
guess
in
my
mind,
a
reason
I
mean
we
also
don't
want
to
go
through
so
I
think
we
need
to
strike
that
balance.
So
yeah
I
like
again
the
idea
of
submitted
some
extra
beatings.
A
The
other
thing
I
would
recommend
in
terms
of
timeline
and
process
would
be.
Let's
have
one
meeting
that
is
just
a
broad
Rush
go
through
the
whole
thing
really
quick,
so
we
all
see
how
it
interrelates
and
then
we
start
to
break
it
up,
just
a
really
quick
I.
Maybe
it's
not
possible
too
much,
but
really
broader
for
people
on
everything
and
how
they
interrelate
Mr
Goodman.
F
Commission,
as
is
the
charter
on
the
City
website,
yep.
A
Okay,
so
listening
to
kind
of
what
people
have
said,
I'm
gonna
kind
of
make
a
proposal
reaction
s
that
we
agree
that
we're
going
to
kind
of
switch
our
schedule
to
meeting
maybe
three
counts
a
year,
as
opposed
to
the
current
one
time
here
that
the
the
first
meeting
that
we
have
is
going
to
be
the
speed
run
through
the
Trevor
black
giant
shot
and
great
coffee
yeah
bring
coffee
at
the
at
the
end
of
that
meeting.
A
I'm
gonna
propose
of
what
we
do
is
we
kind
of
because
the
group
rank
the
word
of
the
blue
background,
so
Finance
Finance.
If
we
talk
about
Administration
Administration,
whenever
we
decide
we
set
a
priority
that
way,
and
then
we
ask
the
staff
at
that
point
to
kind
of
lay
out
a
calendar
that
tries
to
achieve
what
commissioner
quarter
was
talking
about.
That's
like
a
roughly
a
four-year
period.
We
get
through
the
whole
whole
thing
time
based
on
the
priority,
and
then
the
question
I
have.
A
Is
that
perhaps
because
we
haven't
put
it
on
the
calendars,
maybe
we
can
start
that
this
fall.
So
what
do
people
think
about
that?.
A
A
Amend
the
charter
piece
by
piece
or
chapter
by
chapter,
as
opposed
to
going
four
years
and
making
the
changes
and
number
one
and
that's
why
it
kind
of
adds
as
sort
of
brought
Russia
overview.
To
what
degree
are
there
like
in
relationships
between
these
different
sections,
that
if
we
make
a
change
here,
it's
going
to
affect
something
somewhere
else
and
therefore
we
have
to
backflip.
C
Yes,
sure,
yes,
so,
for
example,
seven
and
eight
seven
is
Taxation
and
Finance
speed
is
public
improvements
and
special
assessments.
They
don't
both
do
a
tax
four
and
five,
which
I
also
group
together.
Four
is
nominations
and
elections,
so
the
election
process,
five
is
initiative,
referendum
and
recall,
which
is
also
on
elections,
so
that
there's
some
natural
grouping
that
I
tried
to
pay
attention
to
here.
A
A
A
We
currently
hearings
number
six.
We
don't
have
any
Communications
number
seven,
so
we'll
go
to
number
eight,
which
is
the
including
of
the
draft
report.
C
And
perhaps
before
we
do
that,
because
it
does
talk
about
the
minutes
that
we
approved
I
could
go
by
a
circle
back
around
the
circle:
back:
okay,
3.1,
okay,
so
I
I
went
back
through
here
and
I.
Think
the
problem.
C
Well,
I,
don't
know
this
specifically
where
the
problem
was
because
it
was
in
2021,
but
there
were
nine
people
at
the
meeting
and
I
have
eight
zero
votes
on
my
notes,
because
our
now
chair
came
four
minutes
late
and
I
think
I
started
with
AIDS
when
I
was
writing
it,
so
the
edits
I
think
it's
actually
nine
zero
votes,
so
Adrian
had
them
correct
until
I.
Think
there's
a
typo
on
the
top
of
page
four
or
four
of
minutes.
C
I
think
that
should
be
motion
carried
nine
zero
is
my
is
my
advocated
guess
now
you
could
leave
it
as
is
or
Adrian
do
you
have
any
other
ideas,
because
I
believe
this
was
the
one
that
that
is
this,
the
one
where
that's
dropped
out
remember
this
is
there
was
one
where
the
where
we
had
the
recording
and
it
did
not
I
believe
this
is
the
one
when
we
were
in
the
fire
station
right.
C
Yes,
yeah,
that's
the
speed,
so
we
don't
have
a
great
audio
recording
of
that
I
believe
you're
in
the
fire
station,
because
I
wanted
to
be
far
apart
from
each
other
and
yeah.
Then
we
did
a
WebEx
and
we
had
never
been
in
the
fire
station
and
Adrian
was
brand
new
and
so
I
believe,
if
I
had
to
guess
make
an
educated
guess,
I
would
say
top
page
four
should
be
a
nine
zero
vote,
because
I
think
that
that
would
make
sense.
C
That
said,
if
you
want
to
leave
it
at
eight
zeros
absence,
any
other
indications
remind.
C
Oh
today
was
Taylor
and
Thorson.
Okay.
A
So
I'm
gonna
ask
YouTube.
Are
you
okay,.
A
So
the
motion
now
reads
that
to
adopt
the
minutes
from
October
7th,
with
the
change
in
that
final
section
and
cement,
the
other
methods
is
there
any
further
discussion.
I
would
just
add
that
it
appears
there's
enough
evidence,
so
to
speak,
that
that's
what
it
says.
Whatever
we
say,
whatever
we
say,
we
don't
know
the
number
to
film
doesn't
matter.
Okay,.
A
I
will
then
call
for
a
vote.
All
those
favor
signifies
all
those
opposed
those
minutes
carry.
So
now
we
will
move
on
to
item
number.
A
In
the
handoff,
if
I
hear
a
motion
to.
C
Chair
members,
as
background,
if
I
may,
this
draft
report
is
required
under
state
law,
which
is
why
we
apply
it's
prepared,
it's
one
of
those
exercises
that
it's
difficult
for
Adrian
to
do,
because
it
hasn't
happened
yet
right,
and
so
he
puts
together
sort
of
a
framework,
and
you
see
the
blanks
that
he
will
fill
in
upon
the
conclusion
of
this
meeting
today.
So
it's
sort
of
that's
why
it's
called
the
draft
report.
A
And
forever,
since
the
recording
secretary
is
Adrian,
do
I
hear
a
motion
to
explain
reporting
in
the
center,
so
I
would
Mr
chair
I
would
move
to
reappoint
Adrian
after
reporting,
okay
to
be
a
point?
Was
there
a
second
doctor
somewhere
sure
he's
been
moved
by
Thorson
sacrifice
Taylor
to
every
report?
A
A
A
Apostle
series
unanimously:
finally,
we
have
appointed
the
vice
chair
and
I'll
I
will
open
it
up
for
an
applications.
A
A
A
So
the
next
question
is
setting
the
date
for
the
next
charge.
Commission
meeting
and
given
the
discussion
tonight,
I
want
to
adopt
this
motion
now
or
do
we
want
to
or
how
do
we
want
to
proceed.
C
Chair
I'm,
looking
at
our
1997
rules
of
procedure,
and
they
indicate
that
the
commission,
at
its
regular
meeting,
which
is
what
this
is,
shall
write
an
agenda
for
its
next
regular
meeting,
which
I
would
argue.
We
have
done
matters
not
on
the
agenda.
G
C
Let's
have
an
annual
meeting
for
sure
you
have
to
meet
once
a
year
by
law
and
we
have
our
annual
meeting,
which
is
the
first
Thursday
of
the
month
in
May
yeah,
and
we
have
at
some.
You
know
we
have
that
in
our
roles.
We
have
to
do
that
meeting,
which
is
what
it's
calculated
here:
okay,.
A
I
would
suggest
that
we
set
the
date
for
the
annual
meetings.
That's
the
official,
yes,
that
we
use
whatever
tools
the
camera,
that
you
call
a
meeting.
You
use
whatever
tools.
We
have
to
try
to
maximize
participation,
issues
and
I'm,
guessing
we're
talking
about
what
in
September
or
something
just
so
far,
September
excuse.
Okay,
so
probably
the
only
one
thing
I
have
a
change
in
the
handout
that
is
in
that
in
that
title,
that's
really
not
the
next
crypto,
it's
the
next
annual
yeah.
A
A
A
Is
that
we're
not
we're
not
subservient
to
the
city
council,
we're
effectively
peers
of
the
city
council,
and
sometimes
people
forget
that,
but
we're
we
don't
we
don't
report
to
the
city
council
in
a
way
the
other
questions
and
the
best
interest
services
control
it's
Unique
in
that
way,
and
we
get
to
kind
of
dip
our
toes
with
controversies,
sometimes
as
they
come
to
the
to
their
commission.
So
I
hope
you
find
it
interesting
if
you
thought
right
away
spring
design.
You
want
me
back
so
welcome.
C
Commission
Church,
maybe
a
quick
reminder
that
we're
at
the
U.S
Supreme
Court
of
Minnesota
Supreme
Court
right
now.
Okay,
speaking
of
things
that
have
happened,
we
we're
still
waiting
for
the
decision
related
to
the
ranked
Choice
voting
item
that.
A
Meant
to
ask
about
that,
is
there
a
potential
we
might.
C
Share
their
their
certainly
is
a
possibility.
We
don't
have
any
idea
what
the
what
the
court
will
do,
it's
possible
that
they
may
remind
it
to
the
lower
level
it's
possible
and
give
them
direction
to
resolve
XYZ
it's
possible
that
they
may
tell
us.
We
have
to
put
it
on
a
ballot,
but
it's
unclear
about
the
Badoo,
but
we
most
certainly
follow
our
rules
of
procedure
and
call
a
meeting
and
communicate
with
you
as
soon
as
possible.
A
C
Helpful
to
review
what
the
issue
I
think,
especially
for
them
yeah
chair
members,
I
think
it
might
be,
given
that
it's
pending
litigation
I
think
I
would
prefer
to
provide
that
in
writing
in
a
privileged
communication.