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B
I
did
all
right
adrian's
first,
first
time
doing
a
meeting,
so
I
might
have
to
oh.
I
absolutely
think
a
couple
things
and
mark's
going
to
do
or
the
chair
chair,
thor's,
going
to
do
a
couple
of
extra
things
like,
for
example,
repeating
the
motion
in
the
motion
maker
just
to
help
out
aj
right.
So.
A
All
right
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda,
then,
would
be
to
appoint
a
recording
secretary.
B
B
Her
duties
have
been
transitioned
to
adrian
with
regard
to
the
charter
commission,
so
it
would
be
appropriate
it's
time
to
entertain
a
motion.
That's
in
the
packet
on
page
two
to
appoint
adrian
adrian
ryan.
How
will
you
pronounce
your
last
name
as
the
recording
secretary
for
the
charter
commission
removed
and
make
that
motion.
A
A
We
can
do
voice
votes
all
right,
any
discussion,
if
not
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
all
right
motion
passes
unanimously.
A
Before
going
on
to
our
organizational
business,
I
will
do
what
we
typically
do
and
just
go
around
the
table,
especially
since
we
have
a
new
member
here
and
just
quickly
introduce
yourself
and
say
something
about
your.
I
guess
how
long
you've
been
on
the
charter
commission
and
how
long
you've
been
in
the
city
so
far,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
very
long.
Many
quickest.
C
C
Stanley,
I've
been
on
the
charity
commission
a
couple
years.
Time
flies.
It
does
especially
these
days,
I'm
my
almost
fully
retired
investment
advisor.
C
I've
been
on
the
charter
commission
for
20
plus
years.
I
think
you
and
I
are
anyway
chaired
the
planning
commission
for
quite
a
few
years
ago.
I've
been
on
the
port
authority
for
probably
10
years,
and
I
do
commercial
funding
with
u.s
bank.
C
Jay,
taylor,
retired
I'm.
B
C
B
B
A
C
C
Jim
gurman,
long-time
bloomington
resident
is
my
second
term
on
the
charter
commission.
I
did
two
terms
on
the
park.
Arts
and
rec
commission
not
to
be
bragging,
but
my
grandchildren
are
six
generation
bloomington
residents.
C
D
I've
lived
in
basically
my
whole
life
day,
job
I'd
like
to
be
retired,
like
some
of
them
me
too,
but
my
day
job
is.
I
work
at
microsoft,
digital
video
stuff.
So
if
you
want
to
talk
about
nerdy
peers.com
afterwards
and
chris
and
I'll
talk
to
you
from
there,
I
was
on
the
city
council
from
beginning
2000.
Until
the
beginning
of
2014.,
I've
been
on
the
board
of
the
pork
authority
along
cynthia
hunt
started
on
that
about
2012..
D
I
just
wanted
to
start
about
that
prior
to
being
on
the
city
council.
I
was
on
the
planning
mission
for
four
years
and
I
was
the
chair
for
them.
Last
year
before
I
joined
the
the
city
council
and
welcome.
D
A
E
E
C
The
anti-money
laundering
but
left
that
so
I
could
take
some
accounting
classes,
part-time
and
work
on
this
part-time.
I've
been
at
the
city
of
boone
for
about
four.
D
Months
now
and
my
official
title
is
legal
administrative
assistant.
So
but
I'm.
A
All
right
on
to
our
organizational
business.
The
first
item
is
2.1
or
I'm
sorry,
2.2
charter,
amendment
to
section
2.05.
We
have
the
staff
export.
B
Bridge
sure,
chair
members,
thank
you
for
coming
back
together,
this
fall
and
if
you
recall,
we
mentioned
that
we
might
need
to
come
back
to
talk
with
you
again
in
the
fall,
because
we
had
begun
a
project
when
christina
started
the
new
city
clerk
of
going
through
the
specifics
of
our
charter
and
with
an
eye
towards
ranked
choice,
voting
and
then
also
with
fresh
eyes
in
that
with
the
new
study
clerk
and
the
opportunity
to
to
dig
into
it,
as
she
was
working
to
understand
how
how
we
do
things
here
at
the
city.
B
B
It
relates
to
only
section
2.05
of
the
charter
and
christina
did
a
great
job
of
the
sort
of
a
high-level
description
in
the
request
for
council
action,
and
she
has
a
powerpoint.
The
one
thing
I'll
mention
to
you
with
regard
to
the
timeline
is
it's
on
the
bottom
of
your
agenda
item
for
this,
and
it
might
seem
a
little
bit
longer
than
we
normally
have,
and
that's
in
part
due
to
a
couple
of
things.
The
first
is
that
we
we
don't
have
a
meeting
of
this.
B
We
don't
have
four
meetings
of
the
city
council
in
october,
because
we're
not
meeting
on
the
18th
and
we're
also
not
meeting
all
of
the
weeks
in
november,
and
so
the
schedule
just
got
stretched
out
a
little
bit
further
than
it
typically
would
be
when
we're
meeting
all
the
time
each
week.
The
other
thing
is
because
of
that
kind
of
stretched
out
time
period
and
because
it's
possible
that
we
might
not
get
all
of
our
work
done
tonight,
although
we
certainly
can
get
that
all
done
tonight.
But
in
the
event
we
don't.
B
I
talked
with
our
civil
paralegal
today
and
she
and
I
decided
that
we
will
publish
on
november
4th
as
well
as
the
11th,
that
that
will
give
us
a
little
bit
more
coverage
in
the
schedule
to
comply
with
state
law
and
also
because
of
the
lead-up
time
to
submit
things
to
the
newspaper
we
might
not
know,
and
we
need
to
get
out
ahead
of
that
so
and
then
there's
a
holiday
november
11th,
it's
also
a
holiday.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
this
time
of
year.
B
So
that's
the
one
little
tweak
that
we
changed
after
the
packet
came
out,
not
a
not
an
inaccuracy,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you're
aware
of
that
as
well
and
again,
we
publish
in
the
sun
current.
So
with
that
as
an
introduction,
ms
scipione
has
a
presentation
for
you
on
2.05
and
the
one
other
aspect
that
I'll
add
before
she
starts
is
that
2.05
can
proceed
forward.
B
It
does
not
need
to
wait
on
the
any
sort
of
amendments
to
chapter
5..
We
can
move
2.5
forward
tonight.
We
don't
need
to
wait
and
if
we
act
on,
if
we
happen
to
act
on
either
of
these
at
a
subsequent
meeting
next
week,
if
that's
required,
the
schedule
actually
doesn't
change
the
proposed
timeline
because
of
all
those
weeks
in
there
where
we
don't
have
meetings.
B
So
even
if
we
don't
get
all
of
our
work
done
tonight,
even
though
we
you
know
if
it
bleeds
over
into
next
week,
we
will
stay
on
the
same
time
schedule,
but
I
also
want
to
just
put
out
there
that
we
don't
have
to
meet
again
next
week.
We
just
wanted
to
get
it
on
the
timeline
of
our
calendar
of
people's
houses,
because
it
is
tricky
to
schedule
this
large
group
of
people.
So
with
that,
as
an
introduction
chair,
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
ms
bioni
start.
Thank
you.
E
I
plan
to
introduce
myself
before
we
got
into
this
section
of
the
charter.
I
had
an
opportunity
to
do
that
so
again,
very
excited
to
be
here
thanks
for
having
me
here
this
evening.
You
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
city
charter,
at
section
2.05,
addresses
the
process
for
filling
a
council
vacancy.
E
E
So
in
section
2.05
there
are
there's
a
list
of
all
the
different
reasons
why
a
vacancy
and
council
might
exist,
and
so
this
adds
a
successful
recall
election
to
the
list
of
reasons
why
there
would
be
a
vacancy
in
the
office
and
then
the
second
thing
that
proposed
change
does
is
exempts
a
vacancy
in
office
due
to
a
successful
recall
measure
from
the
usual
appointment
process,
because
if
there's
a
recall
measure,
then
there
is
a
subs
there's,
an
election
that
happens
for
filling
that
office.
E
That's
been
recalled,
and
so
that
recall
is
not
subject,
wouldn't
be
subject
to
the
the
appointment
process.
That's
laid
out
in
the
city
charter,
so
that
this
just
clarifies
that
piece
of
the
charter.
E
Okay,
the
second
proposed
change
that
we
identify
modifies
the
timings
for
special
elections
to
to
hold
a
vacant
special
when
special
elections
are
held
to
fill
a
vacant
council
position.
E
Finally,
we
have
under
state
statute
a
requirement
to
host
a
candidate
filing
to
publish
a
candidate
filing
at
least
two
weeks
before
we
can
open
that
filing
for
that
office,
and
so
this
changes
that
deadline
for
holding
the
special
election
from
when
candidate
final
opens
to
28
days
before
candidate
filing
opens,
so
that
we
can,
if
the
appointment
process
is
complete
before
28
more
than
28
days
before
candidate
filing
opens,
we
would
be
able
to
publish
that
notice
and
put
it
on
the
ballot
that
november.
E
A
E
E
I
I
don't
have,
I
don't
have
a,
I
don't
have
a
kind
of
a
negative
for
this
particular
one.
You
know
the
benefit
is
we're
complying
with
state
statute
and
we're
clarifying
language
in
our
code
and
not
not
sure
that
there's
a
negative
to
those
two
and
I
would
say
the
first
one.
D
D
Thank
you.
I
hope
that
we
about
the
resolution
title
resolution
recommending
the
city
council
and
actually
remembered
by
organization
city
charter,
section
2.05
debating
classes.
Second,.
A
B
B
all
right,
chair
and
members,
thank
you
for
the
second
one.
As
for
those
you
know,
for
those
of
us
that
have
reviewed
our
packets,
this
is
a
little
bit
more
substantial.
B
So
this
again
was
precipitated
by
an
in-depth
review
by
our
city
clerk
and
actually
our
former
city
assistant
city
manager,
chris
wilson,
as
well
before
she
departed.
He
learned
a
lot
during
the
last
election
cycle
about
clarity
in
the
process.
We
also
learned
a
lot
when
we
were
preparing
for
the
election
administration
related
to
ranked
choice
voting.
B
We
also
learned
a
lot
while
we
watched
minneapolis
struggle
through
the
various
parts
of
its
ballot
questions
and
in
cooperation
with
the
city
clerk,
and
we
we
took
a
very.
B
Eye
towards
the
text
in
chapter
5,
with
an
eye
towards
being
very
specific
and
I'll,
give
you
two
examples:
one
we
clarify
calendar
versus
business
days.
We
want
to
turn
any
sort
of
ambiguity
about
that.
The
other
just
sort
of
example
that
we
did
was
we
stated
instead
of
saying,
registered
voters.
We
said
voters
registered
in
bloomington
now
that
might
seem,
like
you
know,
over
the
top,
but
we
did
not
want
to
have
a
fight
with
anybody
about.
B
Well,
I'm
a
registered
voter
in
minnesota
or
I'm
a
registered
voter
in
the
united
states,
or
something
like
that.
So
we
made
a
lot
of
edits
and
some
of
them
might
might
seem
really
detailed,
but
it
was
in
being
informed
by
the
environment
in
which
we
all
are
operating
in
so
again,
there
are
housekeeping
edits
that
are
being
proposed
and
chris,
miss
scipione
will
walk
through
those
and
they're.
In
the
first
section
of
your
request
for
council
are
requests
for
commissioner
action
they're
out
there.
B
We
talked
about
the
various
ways
that
this
information
could
be
presented
to
you
tonight
and
we
decided
to
take
the
approach
that
ms
scipione
has
in
her
powerpoint,
because
so
much
of
this
is
interrelated
oftentimes.
When
we're
talking
about
edits,
we'll
go
line
by
line
and
explain
what
we're
doing,
but
because
the
nature
of
these
amendments
and
the
connectivity
of
them
throughout
chapter
five.
We
didn't
think
that
that
was
the
best
approach.
B
So
instead
we
took
the
approach
that
we
have
here
tonight
and
that
we'll
go
through
in
the
powerpoint
presentation
and
we'll
be
stopping
we'll.
Do
a
quick
run
through,
I
believe,
of
the
high
points
and
then
we'll
be
stopping
and
having
discussion
points
along
the
way,
and
you
know
we'll
just
look
forward
to
those
questions
as
they
come
and
we'll
talk
through
them.
E
Commissioners,
as
miss
manderscheid
shared
the
purpose
of
these
proposed
ordinance,
amendments
or
charter
amendments.
Excuse
me,
first
and
foremost,
we
comply
with
state
statute
to
make
sure
that
our
processes
comply
with
the
requirements
that
we
have
to
follow
in
state
statute,
to
ensure
we
had
consistency
with
our
new
rank
choice,
voting
method
that
nothing
in
our
in
our
charter
disagrees
with
those
ears
in
conflict
with
that
new
voting
method,
and
then
we
put
on
a
lens
to
clarify
the
processes
that
are
within
the
charter.
E
Would
this
give
me
the
clarity
that
I
needed
to
accurately
and
effectively
run
this
election,
and
would
this
provide
someone
who
wants
to
request
one
of
these
ballot
measures,
the
ability
to
read
the
charter
and
say,
okay?
I
understand
here's
step
one
step,
two
step
three
and
here's
the
timing,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
lenses
that
we
looked
at
chapter
five
through
to
ensure
we
had
that
that
clear
clarification
of
processes,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
it.
Are
there
any
policy
changes
while
we're
looking
at
this?
E
So
it's
a
little
background
information.
Most
the
vast
majority
of
state
election
laws
applied
to
bloomington
and
apply
to
bloomington
elections.
There
are
some
things
in
state
statute
that
we're
exempted
from
that.
E
We
have
requirements
for
candidate
filing
periods
when
they
can
be
held,
and
when
we
need
to
provide
notification
and
publish
notification,
I
should
say
of
those
candidate
filing
periods
and
that
timeline
depends
on
when
that
election
is
going
to
be
held,
and
so
on
state
statute.
It
says
if
the
special
election
is
in
november,
then
the
candidate
filing
period
is
this
many
days
before
the
election.
E
If
the
election
is
going
to
be
held
in
august,
then
it's
this
many
days
and
it's
different
depending
on
what
day
of
the
year
we're
going
to
hold
that
election
for
that
office,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
have
to
follow
as
those
candidate
filing
periods
as
they're
specified
in
state
statute
and
then
the
notification
for
those
candidate
filings.
So
we
need
to
publish
two
weeks
notice
ahead
of
candidate
filing
before
it
opens,
and
we
are
subject
to
that
statutory
requirement.
E
So
the
way
I've
laid
out
this
presentation
with
this
mandarin
shared
is
I
have.
I
will
go
through
the
housekeeping
items
in
a
little
less
detail
and
then
I
will
give
an
overview
of
the
policy
items
and
then
what
we
thought
we'd
do
is
go
back
to
the
housekeeping
kind
of
take
questions
for
the
the
whole
list
together,
since
those
are
a
little
more
brief
and
then
dig
into
each
of
the
policy
discussions
one
by
one.
E
So
to
start
here
are
the
proposed
housekeeping
items
that
we
are
suggesting
in
this
amendment.
So
we
are
suggesting
that
we
update
and
reorder
quite
a
few
of
the
section
names
so
that,
as
we
are
as
we're
looking
for
things
in
our
charter
and
we're
trying
to
determine
okay,
what
is
this
section
about?
Is
it
about
recall?
Is
it
about
referendum?
It's
very
clear
to
us
when
we're
reading
our
charter,
what
what
those
different
sections
are
about
and
just
kind
of
reorganizing,
some
of
them
so
they're
consistent.
E
You
know
if
initiative
discusses
different
steps
in
the
process
in
this
order,
then
the
referendum
discusses
different
steps
in
the
process
in
the
same
order,
and
so
it's
consistent
from
section
to
section
or
ballot
measure
to
ballot
measure.
The
second
change
is,
as
ms
manderscheid
mentioned,
changing
registered
voters
to
voters
registered
in
bloomington,
so
we're
being
specific,
and
we
know
that
we
are
talking
about
our
registered
voters
here
in
the
city.
E
The
third
is
updating
the
timing
of
ballot
measures
and
so
initiative
and
referendums.
The
proposed
for
those
the
proposed
amendment
to
the
charter
would
require
us
to
hold
elections
for
those
with
the
next
uniform
election
date.
That's
at
least
75
days
away,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
we
have
that
74-day
notification
requirement
to
give
to
the
county.
E
So
in
theory,
if
our
council
approves
or
orders,
you
know
a
a
special
election,
we
need
the
next
day
to
get
that
information
over
to
the
county,
and
so
that
under
state
statute
is
really
the
earliest
that
we
could
hold
hold
an
election
and
so
that
that's
just
to
conform
with
state
statute
and
then
for
a
recall
election.
E
The
timing
of
that
ballot
measure
would
be
the
next
uniform
election
date
that
complies
with
all
statutory
requirements
and
that
language
doesn't
have
a
specific
number
of
days
because,
as
I
shared,
the
candidate
filing
period
is
different,
depending
on
which
election
date
which
uniform
election
date
we're
using.
So
we
can't
just
say
well
74
days
because
in
some
cases
the
candidate
filing
period
might
be
94
days
before
the
election.
E
E
Here's
the
first
election
that
we
would
be
able
to
to
hold
a
special
recall
election.
E
E
The
fifth
change
is
clarifying
the
effective
date
of
successful
ballot
measures,
as
I
was
putting
my
administrator
cad
on
and
reading
the
reading
the
charter.
One
of
the
questions
I
had
is
okay,
so
when,
when
are
these
items
effective,
when
would
an
approved
a
successful
initiative
measure
be
effective?
When
would
a
successful
referendum
be
effective
or
a
recall,
be
effective?
And
so
we've
added
those
effective
dates
into
the
charter
to
clarify
that
process.
E
E
One
of
the
things
we
are
suggesting
is
to
change
the
time
frame
for
the
city
clerk
to
determine
the
completeness
of
recall
petitions.
So
you
know
when,
when
a
recall
committee
and
re,
I
should
say
ballot
referendum
ballot
measure
is
coming
before
the
city
is
being
proposed.
E
E
It
meets
all
the
requirements
in
the
charter
and
that
we
have
to
go
through
the
list
of
everybody
who
has
signed
that
petition
and
confirmed
that
they
are
a
registered
voter
in
bloomington,
and
that
takes
some
time,
and
so
we
are
suggesting
changing
that
from
five
days
to
ten
business
days,
so
that
it
gives
us
a
sufficient
number
amount
of
time
to
go
through
and
take
a
look
at
the
list
of
voters
and
look
all
of
them
up
in
our
statewide
voter
registration
system
and
confirm
that
those
petitions
are
sufficient.
A
B
C
A
Do
that
first
and
just
see
if
we
can
so
commissioners
any
questions
on
any
of
the
housekeeping
items
any
concerns,
commissioner
peterson?
What
discretion
does
the
staff
have
over.
B
Chair
and
members
we
used
to
have
language
in
our
charter.
That
said
specifically,
when
ordinances
were
effective
a
couple
of
years
ago,
we
changed
that,
because
we
were
increasingly
running
into
things
that
had
a
longer
rollout
period
and
enforcement
wasn't
going
to
begin
until
sometime
into
the
future.
For
example,
the
tobacco
ordinance
is
one
example.
B
The
ct
conversion
therapy
is
another
more
recent
example,
and
so
a
couple
of
years
ago
you
all
amended
the
charter
to
allow
us
to
set
a
date
certain.
So
it's
it's
the
date
certain
that
it's
provided
or
the
date
that
it's
published,
whichever
one,
whichever
one
it
is.
So
if
there
isn't
one
specifically
stated,
then
it's
when
it's
published
the
publication
schedule
with
with
the
sun
current
is
things
are
typically
adopted.
On
monday
nights,
they're
signed
on
tuesdays,
they're
sent
the
paper
on
wednesday
or
thursday.
B
They
have
to
be
there
by
the
midday
thursday
and
then
they're
published
the
following
week
on
thursday,
so
that's
sort
of
the
cadence
of
it.
So
it's
about
10
days
or
so
after.
It's
actually
adopted
that
it
gets
published.
B
B
On
submitting
it
chair
members,
I
don't
believe
that
our
office
has
that.
C
Mr
stanley,
what
definition
of
business
days
do
we
typically
operate
on?
Because
there
are,
you
know
a
number
of
days
throughout
the
year
that
are
holidays
for
this
part
of
the
population
and
then
for
this
part
of
the
population.
B
Chair
and
members
state
law
provides
us
with
that
guidance.
There
is
a
list
in
chapter
645
of
state
statutes
that
lists
all
the
recognized
holidays,
and
then
it
would
also
extend
to
anyone
that
the
city
council
has
determined
as
a
holiday.
So,
for
example,
some
cities
have
added
june
18th
as
a
holiday
and
have
closed
their
city
offices,
and
so
in
that
case,
that
wouldn't
be
counted
as
a
business
day
for
us,
but
it
impacts
sort
of
what
are
the
holidays
impacts
when
you
can
be
served
and
all
kinds
of
other
things.
B
So
if
we
did
pass
something
like
juneteenth,
we
would
need
to
figure
all
that
out
or
some
other
holiday,
but
right
now,
the
holidays
that
we
have
are
those
that
are
published
in
chapter
645
and
any
holiday
by
the
council.
So.
A
Any
other
questions
I
have
one
and
that
is
the
updated,
update,
timing,
ballot
measures
and
because
it's
just
kind
of
the
word
smith
and
me
where
we
say
next
uniform
election
date
does
it
make
more
sense
to
say
first
uniform
election
date
and
again
it
gets
back
at
that
aspect
of
people
not
sitting
on
things
and
that's
just
a
I
mean
I
I
understand
next
also
kind
of
sets
the
same
just
up
make
sure
peterson.
So
just
another
comment,
because
I
think
I'm
number
two
up
there.
D
C
Sorry
to
recommend
me,
I
think,
on
the
next
slide.
It
had
a
number
five
was
about
the
all
right
adrian.
Would
you
mind
looking
at
things
it's
about
the
effective
dates
for
ballot
measures?
You
were
saying
that
it
just
wasn't
clarified
before
I
guess
I
was
wondering
just
kind
of
where
those
where
were
you
got
the
new
effective
dates
from.
E
For
the
referendum
ballot
measures,
we
are
clarifying
that
the
effective
date,
basically
at
the
time
that
a
successful
referendum
passes
is
you
know
that
that
ordinance
is
not
effective
and
actually
the
ordinance
is
suspended
at
the
point
that
a
successful
petition,
a
petition
is
deemed
sufficient
by
the
city
clerk's
office,
and
so
the
ordinance
remains
suspended
for
a
referendum.
E
It's
a
referendum
until
a
special
election
is
held,
and
then
once
that
election
is
held
is
the
outcome
of
that
election
is
to
it's
is
to
have
a
successful
referendum
and
appeal
or
repeal
that
ordinance.
Then
the
effective
date
is
bad
election,
whatever
the
ordinance
doesn't
get
put
back
into
place.
I
guess
it's
the
way.
You
would
the
way
that
you
would
say
it
for
a
recall
election.
E
We
have
the
effective
dates
of
a
successful
recall
as
eight
calendar
days
after
the
canvassing
board
certifies
the
results
of
that
election,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
the
canvassing
board
certifies
the
results
and
then
a
candidate
in
the
election
has
the
opportunity
to
request
a
recount
up
to
seven
days
after
the
canvassing
board
meets
so
after
eight
days.
We
know
there's
no
recount.
We
know
that
that
election,
those
results
stand
and
there
isn't
any
additional
work.
C
We
trained
the
commissioner
peterson's
point
on
the
language
registered
borders.
Just
to
make
sure
you
didn't
you
liked
the
change
or
you
didn't
like
I'd
like
to
challenges.
A
E
Commissioners,
that
is,
that
is
to
just
provide
myself
and
my
staff
additional
time
to
go
through
and
certify
all
of
those
signatures.
What
we,
what
we
need
to
do
behind
the
scenes
is
actually
look.
Every
voter
up
in
our
statewide
registration
system
make
sure
they
have.
E
You
know
a
valid
registration
within
the
city
of
bloomington
and
depending
on
how
how
clearly
or
not
clearly
folks
right
that
can
be
sometimes
a
challenge,
and
so
it's
just
to
provide
that
additional
time
so
that
we
make
sure
that
we're
accurately
and
completely
reviewing
that
message.
D
C
A
C
E
The
timeline
for
determining
the
completeness
of
those
petitions
number
two
number
two
is
clarifying
the
process
for
referendum
committees
and
petitions,
and
when
I
put
my
administrator
hat
on-
and
I
was
reading
our
current
section
of
our
charter
regarding
referendums,
it
states
in
that
section
of
the
charter
that
a
committee
rep,
a
committee
formation,
is
required,
but
it
doesn't
provide
the
deadlines
for
when
that
committee
would
need
to
be
formed
when
they
would
need
to
submit
their
names
and
register
with
the
city
clerk's
office.
E
And
then
it
doesn't
address
the
need
for
any
notification
of
a
potential
ordinance
repeal.
So
there's
some
things
in
that
referendum
that
aren't
a
referendum
section
that
aren't
particularly
clear
and
so
we're.
E
What
we're
suggesting
is
this
proposed
referendum
process,
so
within
15
calendar
days
of
an
ordinance
effective
date,
a
committee
form
is
formed
by
submitting
their
names
to
the
city
clerk,
and
that
committee
is
made
up
to
five
registered
voters
within
the
city
of
bloomington
within
15
days
of
that
committee's
formation,
they
would
submit
their
signature
petition
to
the
city
clerk's
office
within
10
business
days.
The
city
clerk
determines
if
that
petition
is
sufficient
and
if
it
is
not
sufficient.
A
E
The
way
this
is
currently
drafted,
an
ordinance
would
be
suspended
upon
the
city
clerk,
determining
that
the
petition
is
sufficient,
and
so
it
wouldn't
be
at
the
time
and
that's
a
policy
decision
of
when
is
appropriate
for
that
for
that
ordinance
to
be
suspended,
is
it
at
the
point
where
five
registered
voters
are
submitting
their
names.
E
Point
where
a
sufficient
petition
has
been
submitted
to
the
city
clerk,
so
the
way
it
is
currently
written
is
when
a
complete
petition
has
been
submitted
to
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
clerk
has
found
it
sufficient.
B
B
You
know
it's
one
thing:
to
submit
the
names
and
to
get
it
started,
but
at
that
point
they're
actually
pretty
far
into
the
process
and-
and
it
seemed
like
at
that
point-
the
suspension
wouldn't
be
appropriate.
B
I
will
say
just
as
an
aside
that
we
field
questions
and
I'm
sure
the
city
clerk's
office
does
as
well
a
lot
of
questions
about
you
know.
Can
you
provide
me
with
the
form
to
do
this?
Can
you
provide
me
with
the
information
to
do
that
and
people
oftentimes
are
sort
of
feeling
out
things
like
do
I
want
to
do
this?
Can
I
get
organized?
Do
I
you
know?
B
What
do
I
need
and
all
different
kinds
of
things
you
know
from
a
speed
bump
to
a
sign
to
whatever,
and
so
it
seemed
a
little
premature
to
suspend
it
right
away
at
the
beginning.
C
B
Chair
members,
correct
in
510,
the
old
current
language
says
on
that
filing
the
operation.
The
ordinance
is
suspended
and
council
must
reconsider
etcetera,
etcetera,
that's
about
halfway
through
the
struck
language
in
5.10,
and
the
proposed
language
is
in
5.13
which
moves
the
suspension
to
when
the
petition
is
found
to
be
complete
by
the
city
clerk.
E
Actually,
the
spanish
commissioners
so
right
now
the
current
process
doesn't
really
address
the
timing
for
that
committee,
and
so
it
kind
of
jumps
right
into
the
point
where
the
committee
is
submitting
the
signatures
and
submitting
a
sufficient
petition,
and
so
it
does
suspend
the
ordinance
at
the
point
that
that
committee
has
submitted
a
complete
petition
for
moving
where
that
is,
and
so
it
it
actually
isn't
a
change
from
the
current
process.
E
The
timing
is
a
little
bit
different
because
right
now
it's
the
way
it's
written
is
you
have
the
ordinance
goes
into
effect
and
then
the
committee
has
15
days
to
gather
signatures
under
this.
The
ordinance
goes
into
effect.
The
committee
has
15
days
to
form
they
have
15
days
to
gather
signatures
after
that,
and
so
that
timeline
changes,
and
so
it
does
push
out
when
potentially
that
that
ordinance
is
suspended.
But
the
actual
suspension
is
at
the
same
kind
of
trigger
point
if
you
will,
as
it
is
in
the
current
ordinance
or
current
charter.
E
Commissioners
and
part
of-
and
this
is
part
of
the
kind
of
confusing
part
of
this
section
or
the
unclear
part
of
this
section
regarding
referendums-
is
that
we
we
state
in
our
current
charter,
that
a
referendum
committee
must
meet
all
the
requirements
that
an
initiative
committee
does,
but
then
it
doesn't
provide
us
with
any
timelines
or
when
that
committee
needs
to
submit
to
the
city
clerk
what
they
need
to
submit,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
instead
of
referring
back
to
the
sections
where
we're
talking
about
a
committee
for
an
initiative,
we've
added
such
a
section
in
there
that
specifically
addresses
a
committee
for
a
referendum
and
what
that
timing
looks
like
and
what
the
requirements
are
for
that
committee.
E
B
Sure
I
would
add
that
it
was
again
an
attempt
to
clarify
instead
of
sort
of
the
flipping
back
and
forth
and
trying
to
kind
of
fit
the
circle
in
the
oval.
For
each
of
the
three
different
processes.
We
decided
that
it
would
be
just
specific
and
give
the
the
process
for
each
one
for
both
initial
for
initiative,
referendum
and
recall
all
in
one
kind
of
grouping.
C
D
D
C
A
D
Tradeoff
is,
if
you
rally
people
and
do
that,
then
the
ordinance
gets
suspended
until
the
preparation
process
occurs,
but
that
I
think
of
those
two
things
is
kind
of
being
pumped
together.
But
you
know
we're
not
gonna
give
you
forever
to
go
get
signatures,
but
if
you,
if
you
go
and
probably
get
them,
you
get
to
have
you
work
in
a
suspended
period
of
time.
My
concern
it's
not
about
the
structure.
It's
around
the
timeline.
D
D
A
Thank
you,
any
staff
comments
on
how
you
came
up
with
these.
This
timing
and
comments
on
that.
E
Commissioners,
we,
when
we
came
up
with
this
timeline,
we
were
kind
of
mirroring
the
initiative
process
that
typically,
that
is
30
days
for
each
of
these
steps,
and
so
we
shorten
that
in
half
and
have
the
have
the
15
days,
and
that
was
kind
of
our
you
know,
knowing
that
we
would
want
something
to
move
through
a
little
bit
faster,
but
I
wouldn't
say
married
to
these
particular
this
particular
so
those.
D
Can
you
give
a
repeat
of
what
you
said
chair
picked
for
oh
when
I
just
sat
there
so
that.
A
D
Those
numbers
in
there
those
are
a
question
on
policy,
we're
not
going
to
buy
a
state
bar
right
and
you're
interested
in
what
was
a.
What
was
the
proposal
I
I
am
thrown
out
just
as
an
idea,
and
I'm
more
just
kind
of
here
reaction
that
people
have
reacted
to
it,
so
shortening
the
that
first
15
in
there
and
then
taking
the
opportunity
to
angle
back
out
and
make
them
shorter
as
a
way
of
kind
of
trying
to
platform
the
possibility,
because
I
think,
there's
no
situation.
D
C
For
sure
I
guess
I
just
would
say
that
I
was
comfortable
with
those
numbers
if
it's
not
fair,
so
just
keep
it
simple.
B
Yeah,
you
know
yes,
what
may
remember,
as
I
can
say
during
my
five
years,
the
initiative
and
referendum
process.
Those
two
processes
were
a
part
of
the
genus
in
litigation,
the
the
organized
calling
communication
yeah
there
were
the
process
itself
in
which
process
used
was
a
part
of
that
location.
Okay,.
C
I
I
I
I'm
not
sure
why.
Why
not
reference
it
in
your
word
or
why
it
isn't
why
those
requirements
are
not
picked
up.
If
you
don't
want
to
refer
back.
E
We
are
in
this
in
the
current
proposal
in
front
of
you.
We
haven't
changed
the
percentages
for
referendum
or
initiative
in
the
referendum
section.
We
have
moved
things
around
a
little
bit,
and
so
previously
the
15
was
under
5.10,
and
so
it
actually
moves
to
5.11
just
as
a
formatting
piece,
but
the
15
threshold
still
exists
for
a
referendum
position.
We're
not
proposing
a
change
in
this
document.
E
The
next
policy
decision
that
we're
asking
you
to
consider
is
the
timing
of
initiative
elections.
Currently,
our
charter
says
an
initiative.
Petitions
with
signatures
between
10
to
15
percent
of
votes
cast
in
the
last
regular
municipal
election
are
placed
on
the
ballot
at
the
next
regular
municipal
election.
E
The
proposed
language
put
those
petitions
with
between
that
10
and
15
percent
of
both
cats
on
the
ballot
at
the
next
regular
election,
and
so
this
would
allow
us.
Let's
say
we
receive
an
initiative
petition
at
the
beginning
of
2022
and
instead
of
waiting
until
the
next
regular
municipal
election
in
november
of
2023.
B
Would
you
like
to
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
costs?
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
that
might
be
relevant.
Would
there
be
any
costs
associated
with
this.
E
So
this
this
one
actually
wouldn't
be,
wouldn't
really
have
a
change
in
the
cost
for
the
election,
because
we're
still
holding
it
at
a
regular
election
and
so
would
be
an
already
budgeted
election
on
the
initiative.
Petitions
between
10
and
15
do
not
trigger
the
special
election,
but
right
now
it's
the
requirement
is
to
be
held
at
the
next
regular
municipal
election,
which
has
been
nowhere
in
odd
number
of
years,
and
so
there
is
potentially
a
very
long
lag
time
if
we
receive
one
in
a
in
an
even
number
year.
E
Yep
sorry
go
ahead.
The
fourth
policy
discussion
is
when
an
officer
would
be
eligible
for
a
recall
measure.
Our
current
charter
allows
for
basically
says
any
officer
is
eligible
to
be
subject
to
a
recall
measure.
The
proposed
language
would
change
it
so
that
an
officer
who
has
at
least
300
days
left
in
his
or
her
term
would
be
eligible
to
have
a
recall
measure,
and
that
puts
us
at
approximately
march
15
of
every
year.
E
The
reason
we
are
suggesting
this
is
because,
once
you
get
past
about
march
15th
of
every
year,
the
time
that
it
takes
to
have
a
recall
petition,
have
it
certified
do
hold
your
submit.
E
A
notification
of
election
hold
the
candidate
fund
getting
to
november
at
that
point
is
when
the
election
would
actually
be
held,
and
so,
under
our
current
charter,
we
could
have
a
situation
where
there
is
a
successful,
recall
election
and
then
special
election
to
fill
that
position
for
a
position
that
is
also
on
the
ballot
in
november,
and
so
this
this
timing
would
allow
it
so
that,
basically,
by
march
15th,
that's
when
we
would
need
to
that's
about
the
time
you
would
need
to
start
in
order
to
have
it
on
the
august
ballot,
and
so
this
would
allow
recall
petition
to
be
on
an
august
ballot,
but
it
would
would
make
it
so.
A
So
this
would
give
those
interests
sort
of
a
last
possible
date
to
initiate
their
process.
That
is
correct,
rather
than
coming
a
month
after
that
and
finding
out
that,
there's
no
way
that
their
recall
measure
can
possibly
you
know,
come
to
fruition
in
that
election.
So
you're
really
just
saying
this-
is
that
this
is
your
last
possible
debt,
et
cetera.
B
Chair
members,
I'd
also
add
it.
It
helps
prevent
the
situation
of
the
voter
being
totally
confused
as
to
what
they're
voting
on
as
well.
If
there
is
the
recall
replacement
and
then
the
new
person,
it
would
be
difficult
to
difficult
to
explain
and
also
there
are
limits
very
strict
limits,
as
the
city
clerk
knows.
With
regard
to
how
much
help
the
election
judges
can
provide.
D
E
A
E
And
council
member
district
offices,
our
proposal
is
to
not
change
anything
for
the
city-wide
office
offices,
so
that
would
still
be
25
of
the
total
voters
who
voted
in
the
last
preceding
election,
but
for
district
offices.
The
required
number
of
signatures
would
be
25
of
the
total
number
of
registered
voters
who
voted
in
that
district
in
the
last
regular
election
where
that
office
was
on
the
ballot
and
those
signatures
on
that
petition
would
be
need
to
be
from
voters
within
that
district,
and
I
have
kind
of
on
the
next
slide.
E
I
have
an
example
of
what
those
numbers
actually
would
look
like
using
data.
You
can
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide,
so
in
this
example,
I
just
used.
You
know
our
most
recent
elections
to
show
kind
of
how
this
would
play
out
and
so
for
our
current
language,
any
of
our
council,
district
offices
or
citywide
offices
would
need
4511
signatures
on
that
petition.
E
Under
this,
our
city-wide
offices
would
be
still
being
about
4
500,
but
then
our
district
offices
that
does
decrease
because
there's
fewer
number
of
votes
right
that
are
cast
in
each
of
those
districts
during
those
municipal
elections
and
then
it
also
clarifies
that
these
signatures
need
to
come
from
voters
who
reside
in
that
district.
So
if
I
live
in
district
four,
I
can't
say
yep.
I
want
to
recall
that
council
member
who
lives
over
in
district
one
and
so
that
provides
that
clarification.
C
E
And
the
last
policy
discussion
on
here
we're
not
suggesting
any
changes
to
the
signature
thresholds
for
initiatives
and
referendums.
We
haven't
changed
that
in
the
current
draft
of
the
charter
amendment.
However,
this
seems
like
a
good
time
while
we're
looking
at
all
of
these
pieces
of
these
ballot
measures
to
review.
If
these
are
the
thresholds,
we
want
to
continue
with
into
the
future
and
so
just
to
remind
you
for
initiative.
E
If
we
want
an
initiative
measure
held
at
the
next
regular
election,
we,
the
petition,
needs
to
have
signatures
from
at
least
10
percent
of
the
total
number
of
votes
cast
in
the
last
municipal
election
and
then
to
trigger
a
special
election.
It
would
require
15
of
the
total
number
of
voters
who
voted
in
the
last
municipal
election
and
then
for
a
referendum
which
is
held
at
a
special
election.
E
So
you
can
see
that
for
an
initiative
if
it's
held
at
the
next
regular
election
that
would
be
about
eighteen
hundred
signatures
for
a
special
would
be
about
twenty
seven
hundred
a
referendum
would
again
be
about
twenty
seven
hundred
about
fifteen
percent,
and
then,
if
it
were
me,
I
thought
well,
what
are
other
cities
doing,
and
so
then
I
also
went
through
and
apologized,
because
this
is
a
little
difficult
to
read
on
the
powerpoint
slide,
but
we
did
go
and
look
at
what
other
cities
have
and
for
their
thresholds
of
for
triggering
an
initiative
or
a
referendum.
D
So
I
actually
I
support
leading
the
same,
the
I
think
the
like,
for
example,
I
think
the
trash
initiative
was
legitimately.
You
know
an
issue
that
that
people
should
have
been
able
to
get
on.
D
So
I
don't
think
I
also
don't
think
it's
a
failure
that
doesn't
happen
very
often,
so
it
seems
like
we're
hitting
the
spot
between
two
off
and
on
now,
when
I,
when
I
look
at
these
numbers
here
and
I
think
about
how
would
I
abundant
my
time
to
go
through
that,
my
my
estimate
is,
I
could
get
ten
signatures
into
more
yeah,
going
on
and
knocking
on
doors
with
something
that
was
produced
in
my
pocket.
So.
A
B
C
A
few
slides
ago
there
was
a
phrase
10
to
15
percent.
I
was
thank
you.
C
It's
lost
on
me
as
to
why
there
is
a
an
upper
range
on
that.
Thank
you,
initiative
petitions
with
signatures,
ten
to
fifteen
percent
of
I
don't
understand
why
it
just
doesn't
say
10
or
more.
I
think
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
anyway,
but
what's
what
is?
Why
is
there
a
range.
E
And
that
was
that's
not
so
much
language
from
the
charters.
I
was
just
trying
to
clarify
that
we
were
only
talking
about
initiative.
Petitions
that
fell
within
that
10
to
15
percent
range
versus
the
ones
that
have
signatures
from
15
or
more
so
that's
language.
I
put
in
the
slide
just
to
clarify
what
what
type
of
initiative
petition
we
were
talking
about
and
the
timing
of
when
we
were
talking
about
that
in
our
code,
it
says
or
in
our
charter.
E
It
says:
if
it's
you
know
more
than
10
it
shall
be
held.
Then
it
says
if
it's
more
than
15,
it
shall
be
helped.
So
that
was
just
for
me.
C
Do
we
benefit
from
language
that
says
300
days
before,
as
opposed
to
a
specific
date
like
you're
march
15th?
I
personally
I
find
it.
We
start
talking
about
well,
it's
kind
of
you
know
it's
it's
going
to
be
75
days
before
this
and
I
got
a
while
I'm
going
to
count
backwards
and-
and
is
there
enough
difference
year
to
year
to
year
to
year
year,
where
simply
picking
a
date
where
we
might
be
plus
or
minus
a
few
days
from
that
300
views?
E
Commissioners,
I
would
say
there
isn't
really
a
benefit
to
doing
300
versus
march
15th.
The
timing
doesn't
change
that
much
between
election
cycles
and
between
election
years,
where
a
couple
days
difference
would
really
impact
any
of
these
processes.
So
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
preference
for
for
wording
and
perhaps.
B
To
understand
but
chair
members,
the
only
thing
I
can
think
of
is
that
they're
in
some
sort
of
weird
occurrence,
where
there
might
be
a
like
a
term
of
some
sort
of
different
length.
I
I
don't
know
you
know
when
we
draft
these
things.
We
try
to
think
of
every
possible
scenario
that
might
play
out
and
again,
you
know,
frankly,
for
all
of
the
dates
that
have
been
put
in
here
and
all
of
the
calculations
of
time,
they're
all
based
on
the
most
current
version
of
state
law.
B
So
if
the
state
legislature
does
what
it
did
several
years
ago
and
totally
redoes,
you
know
these
uniform
dates.
We
may
need
to
do
some
cleanup,
but
at
a
minimum,
we're
cleaning
up
the
stuff
that
we
need
to
clean
up
now.
So
our
choices,
just
sort
of
generically
are
to
remove
a
lot
of
these
timing.
B
You
know
300
days,
marcia
team
things
and
then
enter
into
a
sort
of
an
argument
with
somebody
that
it's
not
possible
for
you
to
accomplish
this
within
the
time
that's
available,
we
can't
meet
our
statutory
obligations
and
then
then
they
you
know
they
don't
like
that
and
push
back
in
it.
So
I
think
there's
a
trade-off
here
in
saying
300
days
or
march
15th
or
what
you
know.
Whatever
route
you
choose
to
go,
could
we
cover
ourselves
by
saying
picking
the
date.
C
You
know
if
we're
bringing
up
about
10
days
or
on
october
15.
You
know
short
time
periods.
Well,
then,
that
the
difference
between
10
days
before
versus
absolute
seasons,
now
the
date
becomes
more
arguable
more
of
a
potential
issue.
But
when
we're
going
out
three
hundred
days
or
march
15th
yeah
yeah,
I
think
that
I
would
think
we
would
be
safe
right
and
clean
and
clear.
E
The
reason
that
I
likely
suggested
it
and
drafted
it
this
way
versus
the
march
15th
is
just
when
you
get
into
election
administration.
So
much
of
what
we
do
is
you
start
with
this
state,
and
then
you
count
back
and
you
start
with
this
state
and
then
you
can
head
back,
and
so
you
get
kind
of
into
a
groove
of
counting
right
and
measuring
everything
by
the
election
date.
But
in
this
case
I
don't
see
any
issues
with
using
a
date.
Certain
march
15th
versus
the
300
days.
A
So
it
sounds
like
we
have
a
couple
of
issues
to
solidify
here.
We
do
have
on.
Potentially
there
are
on
the
calendar
anyway,
a
meeting
next
week
to
finalize
this,
but
it
seems
to
me
and
I'd,
be
interested
to
hear
it,
but
there
isn't
enough
difference
tonight
that
we
couldn't
possibly
act
on
it
this
morning.
How
other
ford
feels
about
moving
forward
and
acting
on
this.
B
I'm
hearing
I've
been
tracking
the
items
that
I've
heard
are
sort
of
points
of
left
that,
where
we
aren't
on
the
same
page,
the
one
that
I
have
two,
the
one
is
the
use
of
the
term,
the
next
uniform
election
date
and
then
I'm
hearing
this
30
300
days
versus
march
15..
B
In
both
instances,
we
would
need
to
redraft
the
sentences
and-
and
we
could
repeat
them
into
the
record
as
a
way
of
making
sure
it
was
clear
that
everybody
understood
what
they
were
voting
on
and
we
would
we
could.
We
could
do
that.
The
risk
is
that
we
might
miss
something
along
the
way.
B
B
D
A
D
D
D
We
need
to
get
the
reason
being
and
the
the
overall.
The
reason
for
both
of
these
changes
is
currently
you
have.
If
you
you
have
15
days
from
when
the
ordinance
takes
effective,
collective
signatures.
D
Okay,
the
proposal
here
effectively
would
create
a
period
that's
30
days,
long
plus
a
15
to
15
day
period
up
front,
so
it
substantially
lengthens
the
period
signatures
and
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
goals
of,
and
if
you
do,
that,
you
get
to
cause
the
orchestra
to
be
suspended.
D
Okay,
so
it's
a
powerful,
it's
a
powerful
thing
and
there's
a
balance
to
be
struck
between
the
ability
to
go
and
cause
an
ordinance
that
our
elected
officials
put
in
place
to
be
suspended.
I
I
I
like
how
the
current
charter
language
puts
people
in
the
decision
position.
People
have
to
be
worked
up
about
it
enough,
but
they're
going
to
go
on.
A
D
D
D
A
Since
it's
a
focal
layer,
it
is
not
a
isn't
it.
It's
not
a
motion
yet
correct.
A
So
any
any
thoughts
on
commissioner
peterson's
suggestions
here.
C
C
Standing
in
my
series
of
tradeoffs-
I
I
don't
know
enough
about
the
work
with
the
city
government
to
know
that
15
days
versus
10
days
of
doing
this
or
that
the
other
thing
is,
is.
C
Always
important
it's
a
matter
of
policy
policy
or
practicality
from
the
staff
stand.
So
I
I
I
disagree
with
you
and
I
have
no
reason
to
vote
against
your
proposal.
I
just
I
don't
have
a
real
good
sense
of
what
those
trade-offs
are
and
to
the
extent
that
anybody
else
does
felt
that
10
days
was
too
short
because,
like
you're,
there.
C
B
D
Kind
of
suspending
the
action
of
importance
is
an
anti-majoritarian
sort
of
thing,
because
a
small
minority
of
the
people
in
the
community
that
number
of
87
people
can
cause
an
apartment
to
be
suspended,
and
so
I
actually
don't
think
normally,
I'm
I'm
like
hey.
I
do
want
to
have
people
come
in,
but
I
think
we
have
to
start
a
balance
between
allowing
a
small
group
of
people
who
might
have
a
heartfelt
opposition
to
something
to
suspend
something
that
is
in
the
big
picture
popular.
A
B
A
A
A
C
A
A
B
Yeah
so
chair
members,
the
other
one
that
you
asked
us
to
look
at
is
the
300
calendar
day
camp,
the
300
calendar
days.
B
B
The
challenge
for
us
is
is
a
couple
of
things,
one
the
fact
that
the
term
doesn't
technically
end
until
the
successor
is
appointed
and
all
kinds
of
strange
things
can
happen,
and
so
and
it
doesn't
happen
in
the
same
calendar
year
of
the
march
15th
deadline,
it's
actually
usually
the
next
year,
and
so
we
weren't
able
to
come
up
with
replacement
language
in
the
time
provided
we
could
certainly
go
back
and
try,
but
unfortunately
we
were
not
able
to
do
that
tonight.
A
A
B
300
days,
chair
and
members,
yes,
the
300
days
works
for
us
and
in
large
part,
due
to
the
to
the
duration
of
that
turn,
and
not
it's
not
really
tied
to
the
passage
of
the
of
the
calendar
year.
It's
to
that
specific
person's
term,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
avoid
is
having
multiple
elections
for
that
office
on
the
same
ballot,
which
is
which
relates
back
to
the
the
balance
of
the
term
left
and
not
really
where
we
are
on
the
annual
calendar
right.
C
A
So
unless
anybody
feels
strongly
mr
barton
go
ahead
and
make
your
question
yeah,
that's
here,
it's
probably
that
yeah.