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A
B
Jean-Pierre
Palace
and
I
do
have
a
short
statement
to
read
and
so
I'll
just
kick
it
off
good
evening,
mayor
City,
Council
Members,
my
name
is
Isaac
Contreras.
Today,
I
would
like
to
introduce
myself
as
the
Twin
Cities
chapter
past
president
and
current
director
of
governmental
Affairs
Committee
of
now
rep
Twin
Cities,
the
National
Association
of
Hispanic
real
estate
professionals.
B
B
B
We
are
here
today
to
Simply,
introduce
ourselves
and
offer
ourselves
as
a
resource
for
answers
and
guidance,
as
local
policies
are
discussed
and
decided
on
whether
it's
for
zoning
changes
that
you're,
considering
new
housing
policies
or
adjustments
to
the
city's
master
plan.
With
that
said,
I
would
like
to
dispel
a
couple
of
misconceptions
that
most
folks
have.
First
in
that
you
must
speak
Spanish
and,
secondly,
that
you
must
be
Latino
in
order
to
be
a
member
or
leader
in
the
chapter,
neither
of
which
is
necessary.
B
B
If
the
U.S
Latino
was
a
was
a
country,
that's
larger
than
South
Korea
larger
than
Australia
Russia
France,
on
par
with
the
United
Kingdom.
Every
year
nationally,
we
now
rep
produce
a
report
called
the
state
of
Hispanic
homeownership.
This
is
where
we
track
how
we
are
performing
as
a
cohort,
and
we
discovered
that
Minnesota
saw
one
of
the
fastest
Hispanic
homeownership
growth
rates
in
the
region,
up
62.3
percent
since
2010.
B
A
You
thanks
so
very
much
for
for
coming
and
introducing
yourself
absolutely
appreciate
it
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
learn
more
about
the
organization
and
and
the
mission
I
Council
of
questions
and
specific
questions
or
councilmember
Carter.
D
Yeah
well,
thank
you
for
coming
today,
so
we
have
a
Housing
and
Redevelopment
Authority
like
many
cities
and
we
actually
redid
our
website
with
a
bunch
of
different
resources
and
supports
for
community
members
who
are
looking
for
a
variety
of
things
related
to
homeownership
or
rental.
You
name
it
and
I'm,
just
wondering,
then
what
kind
of
resources
and
support
do
you
provide
people
specifically
and
then
I
just
kind
of
wonder
if
it's
they
could
put
it
up
on
our
page
right.
Excuse
me,
HRA
website,
as
a
resource
for
seminar,
community.
B
Oh
and
that's
a
great
question,
and
what
we
want
to
point
out
is
that
we're
a
business
organization
much
on
much
like
you
see,
Spar
and
Nar.
B
You
know:
Minneapolis
real
area,
realtors
association,
Minnesota,
realtors
association,
the
National
Association
of
Realtors
right
and
I
bring
that
up,
because
we
are
the
real
estate
practitioners,
so
the
loan
officers,
the
agents,
the
insurance
agents,
and
so
we
work
at
that
agent
level,
that
business
organization
level
and
then
through
that,
through
the
education
and
empowering
of
the
practitioners,
then
that
gets
spread
out
to
the
end
user.
The
homeowner.
B
It
so
when
you're,
when
you're,
looking
at
and
some
of
those
commissions
like
a
housing
policy,
commission
things
like
that,
then
we
can
provide
insight
as
to
what
me,
what
would
be
some
of
the
policies
to
take
into
consideration
when
you're
taken
into
consideration
the
Latino
population
in
the
city,
especially
as
you're,
making
adjustments
to
the
city's
master
plan.
Moving
forward.
A
F
For
being
here
nice
to
meet
with
all
of
you,
if
you're
gonna
describe
the
I
mean
it
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
growth,
so
maybe
there
aren't
barriers
as
you
see
them,
but
if
you
were
going
to
describe
barriers
to
home
ownership
for
the
population,
you
support.
How
would
you
describe
that
and
what
would
you
be
focusing
on
or
asking
us
to
focus
on
when
it
comes
to?
You
know,
moving
those
things
in
the
right
direction
to
enable
more
home
ownership.
B
Yeah
absolutely
great
question
so
nationally.
We
have
three
initiatives,
because
we
one
of
the
things
that
we
recognize
over
the
last
20
some
years
is
that
economics
is
what
drives
policy
right,
and
so,
when
we're
talking
about
policy,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
there's
a
number
of
us
going
to
DC
next
week
for
the
homeownership
conference,
that's
put
on
by
narev
and
there's
three
areas
of
focus
that
we
that
we
have.
One
of
them
is
housing
inventory.
B
The
second
one
is
immigration
reform
and
then
the
third
one
is
access
to
credit
and
so
access
to
credit
and
immigration
reform.
Those
are
very
much
National
initiatives
right,
and
so
we
have
conversations
with
our
Representatives
at
the
federal
level.
Our
Senators,
as
well
as
our
our
Congress
people,
locally
access
to
housing,
our
housing
and
not
access
to
housing.
B
Housing
inventory
is
where
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
can
be
put
into
play
at
the
zoning
changes
make
you
know,
moving
on
from
R1
to
R2
areas
that
have
that
ability
and
have
that
capacity
to
fill
a
need
being
able
to
also
Statewide,
for
example,
there's
an
initiative
going
through
with
I-10
numbers.
Now,
if
you're
familiar
with
I-10,
it's
the
individual
tax
identification
number
currently
in
the
state
of
Minnesota.
B
If
you
get
a
loan,
if
you
get
a
mortgage
and
you
buy
a
home
and
you
have
an
itin
number,
you
don't
receive
homestead
credit.
B
G
B
A
C
C
I
do
not
recall
any
information
concerning
past
experiences
or
cities
in
similar
situations,
so
question
what
past
experiences
or
what
other
City
added
retail
and
medical
offices
to
colleges
and
or
universities
in
our
one
or
what
other
past
experiences
or
what
other
City
change
the
city
code
to
achieve
spot
zoning
without
spot
zoning
again
I'm,
not
saying
the
city
spot,
zoned
I'm,
saying
that
they
what
they
chose
to
do
by
changing
the
city
code,
achieved
a
spot
zoning
and
also
at
the
last
listening
session,
a
council
member
comments
mayor
when
we
discussed
this.
C
We
discussed
this
as
a
change
to
R1
zoning,
not
to
a
specific
change
to
that
parcel,
and
that,
from
my
recollection,
is
what
we
did
there.
We
did
not
look
at
it
just
specific
to
that
property
right.
The
city
mentioned.
There
are
two
other
colleges,
but
the
staff
report
and
supporting
data
is
specific
to
Northwestern
a
council
member
did
question
whether
the
retail
change
would
reduce
the
retail
square
footage
for
Normandale,
but
again
specifics
such
as
the
total
square
footage
for
medical
traffic.
Parking
of
the
other
colleges
were
not
provided.
C
Additionally,
I
do
not
recall
any
data
or
discussion
concerning
any
future
college
or
university
other
than
the
retail
square
footage
for
Normandale.
What
is
the
staff?
What
is
in
the
staff
report
and
data
indicating
the
city
looked
at
the
other
two
colleges
are
considered
any
future
college
or
university.
A
C
Well,
the
first
one
I
can
see.
You
know
you
asked
that
question
and
it
would
be
possibly
ready
available,
but
the
second
one
again
the
city
didn't
spot
Zone,
but
to
have
a
council
member
say
that
other
other
properties
were
considered.
So
everyone
read
the
staff
report
and
right
now
I
mean
you,
everyone
voted
and
they
voted
on
the
data
that
was
in
the
package
and
so
right
now
I
mean
you
just
voted.
A
I,
if
I
recall
it
Sally
I
think
we
asked
those
questions
at
the
meeting
and
it
was
responded
and
I
can't
remember.
It
was
a
few
weeks
ago
now
so
I
don't
recall
exactly
somebody
made
the
the
equations
what
it
would
mean
for
an
expansion
at
Normandale
and
what
the
expansions
would
mean
if
I
don't
even
know
what
the
other
example
I
think
councilmember
Nelson
brought
up
Ace
Hardware.
As
an
example,
could
you
put
an
Ace
Hardware
in
Normandale
yeah,
so
it
was
discussed.
C
H
A
So
you
saw
the
staff
report
so
you're
asking
a
question
that
you
know
the
answer
to
once
again
so,
and
you
also
were
at
the
you
guys,
get
information
watch
the
meeting
yeah.
So
you
know
we
did
discuss
it
and
based
on
the
information
that
we
had
the
discussion
that
we
had
the
vote,
I
believe
was
7-0
right.
C
C
And
that's
where
you
get
looking
into
it,
you
wouldn't
have
somebody
standing
there
in
a
conversation
about
it,
you
would
have
the
actual
data,
so
were
the
other
properties
really
looked
into,
because
you
would
have
some
data
that
you
guys
would
read
before
you
went
to
the
meeting
instead
of
having
a
staff
member.
But
again
you
guys
think
at
that
meeting
they
didn't
get
into
the
specifics
of
how
much
square
footage
would
that
be
over
there,
and
you
know
we
already
know.
Normandale
has
an
issue
with
the
parking
situation
and
the
traffic.
C
A
Houses
on
College
View
Road
that
one
those
houses
they
view
the
college
Sally
and
the
and
the
parking
ramp
was
done,
was
done
very
well
and
frankly,
if
you
drive
past
it,
it's
not
an
issue.
We
have
not
heard
from
them
we're
hearing
from
you
now
again
about
something
that
is
not
in
your
purview,
and
so
we
will
answer
those
questions
that
you
brought
forward.
We
and
we'll.
C
C
Yeah
and
it
wasn't
well
received
by
the
community,
you
know
going
not
only
just
adding
the
ramp
but
adding
them
more
traffic
on
that
corner.
You
know
so
again
more
changes,
and
here
I,
so
yeah
you'll
get
back
to
me.
You'll
see.
If
and
if
there's
any
data.
If
staff
has
any
specific
data
contacting
Normandale,
seeing
what
they're
and.
A
And
to
let
you
know
if
the
answer
is
we
had
the
discussion
at
the
council
meeting
and
we
ask
the
questions
brought
up
a
couple.
Examples
got
the
answers
from
staff
and
voted
based
on
that.
If
the
answer
is,
we
don't
have
a
ream
of
data
describing
what
you're
describing
that
still
doesn't
invalidate
the
decision
that
the
Council
made
it
with
a
7-0
vote.
C
A
C
A
C
And
again,
I'm
not
looking
to
invalidate
the
decision
of
the
council,
I'm
again
purposely
coming
in
here
week
after
week
about
the
inaccurate
information.
Provided
you
know
if
it
didn't
matter,
staff
should
have
said.
You
know
we
don't
have
past
experiences
on
this.
This
is
all
new.
You
know,
I
I,
don't
think
he
even
answered
it.
I,
don't
think
this
was
even
answered.
It
was
properly
asked,
but
I
don't
think
it
was
answered
and
then
about
the
others.
You
know
you
didn't
spot,
you
didn't
spot
Zone.
Clearly
you
didn't
spot
Zone,
but
you
achieved
it.
C
That's
my
point:
are
we
going
in
that
direction
where
we're
allowing
that
so
to
say?
Well,
we
did
look
at
the
others.
I,
don't
think
you
really
did
and
I
could
be
wrong.
I,
don't
see
the
data
so
come
out
and
say
we
didn't
look
at
the
others.
You
know
we
didn't
spot
Zone.
We
we
made
the
decision.
Okay,
but
it's
like.
Let's
get
this
accurate,
you
know
going
back
12
years,
I
mean
that
is
the
point
I
keep
coming
here.
Is
it's
difficult
to
hear?
A
A
C
A
H
K
A
K
So
I
think
I.
Guess
first
thing
is,
you
know
just
think:
Glenn
Nick
great
people
appreciate
the
you
know,
engagement
from
them
and
kind
and
courteous
to
us.
So
I
guess
unfortunately
we're
here
again
and
you
have
to
listen
to
us
but
quick
update
for
you.
So
so
far,
we've
spent
an
incredible
amount
of
time,
I
think
I,
don't
know.
K
Sandy's
got
hundreds
of
hours
into
this
I
just
kind
of
show
up,
sometimes
so
the
neighborhood's
still
committed
to
I
guess
kind
of
seeing
a
holistic
approach
taken
to
the
R1
zoning
ordinance
update.
K
You
know
our
ideas
have
received
some
support,
but
we've
seen
basically
little
results
out
of
that.
So
far,
the
support's
kind
of
been
sporadic
with
certain
folks
supporting
one
concept,
other
folks
supporting
another
concept.
K
No
folks
up
the
city-
oh
okay,
yeah,
sorry
so
yeah
so
city
council
has,
you
know,
shown
some
support
for
certain
things
and
staff
have
shown
support
for
other
things,
I
think
yeah
I,
guess
we're
a
little
whatever
it's
our
ideas,
I
think
have
just
kind
of
been
dismissed
quickly
without
much
feedback.
K
I
know
you've
been
supportive
of
going.
You
know,
looking
into
rs1
for
the
neighborhood,
the
neighborhood
doesn't
meet
50
compliance
there.
So
we
spoke
with
staff
about
you
know,
trying
to
say
what
is
it
maybe
revisit?
Rs1
is
a
smaller.
K
Have
it
go
through
the
same
Pro
rata
reduction
in
lot
size
that
R1
is
going
through,
which
would
result
in
about
a
23
000
square
foot
lot
and
bring
our
neighborhood
up
to
I
think
about
65
plus
compliance,
so
that
was
one
concept
and
I
know
how
rs1
sits
for
the
council,
but
one
option.
K
Another
option
that
we
presented
was
retaining
the
median
lot
width,
so
that
was
basically
immediately
rejected.
The
comment
was
we'll
kill,
90
percent
of
development
sites,
and
that
was
basically
like
the
end
of
the
conversation.
So
you
know
I,
don't
know.
We
wonder
why
not
keep
the
80
percent
lot
width
median
lot
width
requirement,
but
have
a
variance
of
50
which
would
allow
the
HRA
project
to
go
through.
K
So
you
know
some
additional
dialogue.
There
would
have
been
great
and
then,
lastly,
creating
an
overlay
District
understand
that's
a
lot
of
work
but
again
kind
of
immediately
rejected
without
much
consideration
for
potential
Solutions.
So
as
an
example,
you
go
to
page
I,
don't
know
the
last
couple
pages
of
this
Minnesota
DNR
put
together
or
they
call
it
central
region,
green
infrastructure,
so
they
basically
looked
at
all
of
the
natural
habitat
within
the
state.
Said:
okay,
here
are
the
habitat
corridors
that
connect
to
them,
so
Wildlife
can
migrate
around
the
state
right.
K
So
it
says
relating
to
balancing
development
and
natural
resource
protection,
so
I
mean
as
a
in
terms
of
trading
overlay
districts.
I
mean
this
is
as
down
the
Fairway
as
it
gets
I
think
the
state
put
together
the
map.
I
think
you
know,
we've
talked
about
just
kind
of
keeping
some
of
this,
the
more
environmental,
specific
I.
Don't
know.
What
do
you
call
them?
K
Government
standards
consistent
so
retain
the
35
previous
setback
or
I'm.
Sorry
retain
35
impervious
limitation.
Retain
the
setbacks,
retain
the
off
street
parking
requirements
for
just
the
R1
zoning
District
in
this
area.
So
basically
nothing
would
change
for
the
people
that
live
in
that
neighborhood.
It's
not
like.
You
have
to
present
change
to
those
people.
It's
just
hey.
You're
still
still
have
these
performance
standards
so
yeah,
so
that's
I
mean
I.
K
Think
that's
if,
if
you
have
to
push,
if
you
have
to
push
density
like
now
is
a
optimal
time
to
create
an
overlay
District
to
protect
natural
resources,
and
you
can
use
it,
you
can
do
it
using
state
level.
Assessments
right,
so
I
think
that's
a
great
way
to
protect
bloomington's
natural
resources,
so
those
are
kind
of
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
the
solutions
and
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
think.
We've
gotten
anywhere
else.
I.
L
L
You
know
a
completed
thought
process
in
this
ordinance
change
and
when
I
went
I've
been
going
to
all
the
meetings
and
the
ones
that
get
canceled
or
you
know,
watch
them
just
to
try
and
get
FaceTime
with
people
and
then
to
go
to
the
HRC
on
March
3rd,
and
it's
presented
that
the
the
same
ordinance
package,
which
was
presented
to
you
guys
on
January
9th,
is
what's
going
to
be
presented
again
on
March,
20th
and
I'm
kind
of
like
wow.
This
is
really
a
weird
place
for
me
to
have
learned
about
it.
L
Since
I'd
had
continual
conversations
you
know,
and
it
was
like
why,
and
what
are
we
doing
if
this
is
the
way
things
are
occurring?
And
you
know
and
I
think
that
some
other
people
have
experienced
this
too,
when
they've
gone
to
see
whether
or
not
there's,
some
environmental,
you
know
Avenues,
we
can,
you
know,
follow,
and
the
response
is
well
we'll
look
at
them
later.
Well,
you
guys
know
how
fast
this
stuff
goes.
L
L
E
L
L
Respectful
with
everybody
we
you
know,
and
it's
the
what's
coming
back
is
like.
Oh,
my
God.
Why
are
we
being
so
nice?
It's
just
I,
don't
and
part
of
it's.
We
don't
understand
the
process.
You
know
we
just
found
out
Friday
that
I'm
going
to
get
the
terminology
wrong
because
I
get
the
terminology
wrong.
All
the
time
that
the
public
hearings
been
closed
or
public
comments
has
been
closed.
So
when
this
comes
back
to
the
meeting
on
the
20th,
you
aren't
looking
for
any
more
input
from
anybody.
I
A
A
I
E
L
J
The
purpose
of
the
public
hearing
is
is
that,
prior
to
the
city,
adopting
an
ordinance
Law
requires
that
there
be
a
public
hearing.
That's
what
occurred
a
couple
of
months
ago
and
we
decided
or
I
I
suggested
I
recommended
that
we
hold
another
public
hearing
this
time,
given
the
passage
of
time
and
that
I
suggested
or
I
suspected
that
there
would
be
a
strong
desire
from
the
community
to
have
public
comment
and
given
the
passage
of
time
and
the
likely
desire
for
public
comment,
I
recommend
it
that
we
re-advertise
a
public
hearing.
A
A
L
K
D
I
guess
I
was
just
curious.
If
we
have
we
taken
into
consideration
like
habitat
corridors
in
our
zoning
area,
areas.
I
And
I
don't
know:
Mr
mayor
council
members
and
one
council
member
didn't
meet
with
our
staff
to
ask
those
questions.
So
we
are
looking
at
that
and
we'll
have
more
information
and.
D
I
guess
I
would
just
say:
we'll
have
the
conversation,
but
I
do
think
with
our
kind
of
revived
priority
around
natural
resources
that
it
is
something
that
we
should
be
seriously
having
a
conversation
about,
and
not
just
for
one
neighborhood.
But
if
there's
a
whole
habitat
Corridor
that
we
care
about
and
we're
asking
for
local
option
sales
tax
for
Nine
Mile
and,
like
it
all
kind
of
fits
together
right
as
part
of
the
puzzle,
and
so
I
would
hope
that
there's
I'm
glad
that
there
will
be
more
information
on
that.
All.
D
A
A
A
E
A
A
Will
as
we
as
we
recap
this
tonight,
I
will
I
will
say
those
words
fantastic
and,
if
need
be,
if
we,
if
we
need
to
clarify
this
again,
we
will
certainly
do
that,
but
we've.
E
H
H
A
Was
it
was
that
email
helpful?
Yes,
it
was
yes
and
and
to
verify
some
of
the
statements.
Last
week,
I
mean
I.
Have
not
I
have
never
heard
a
staff
member
question
this
commitment,
whether
or
not
this
would
work
no
I
know
there
have
been
there's
been
a
couple
of
residence
questions.
There's
been
questions
from
just
for
clarification
of
for
from
the
newer
council
members
I
as
unlike
what
was
said
last
week,
I
have
never
had
a
staff
member
come
to
me
and
question
this.
F
Oh
I
agree
with
that,
and
and
since
I
made
some
comments,
I'll
just
be
very
clear
with
you.
I
think
it
is
important
for,
for
you,
for
Bloomington,
remembers,
veterans
and
I
will
help
with
this
and
I'll
come
tomorrow
and
help
with
this
to
make
sure
people
know
too
that
the
that
you
know
you're.
Okay,
if
these
other
activities
are
happening
around
that
Memorial,
and
you
want
to
see
that
and
if
kids
are
playing
monkey
bars
on
your
local
Grill
you're.
F
Fine
with
that
and
I
mean
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
my
dad's
buried
at
Arlington.
It
would
be
completely
inappropriate
for
monkey
bars
at
Arlington,
right
and
so
people
some
some
people
have
a
vision
of
a
memorial
as
a
very
solemn,
respectful
place
and
other
people
have
it
as
a
place
for
celebration,
and
things
like
that.
We
need
to
understand
from
your
perspective,
how
comfortable
you
are
with
like
a
party
going
on
next
door
and
other
things
like
that,
so
we
can
better
serve
the
whole
population.
Absolutely
helping
us
understand
how
that
will.