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From YouTube: February 1, 2021 Bloomington City Council Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota City Council Meeting
A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
I'd
like
to
call
this
february
1st
2021
meeting
of
the
bloomington
city
council
to
order
gonna
start
our
meeting
as
we
always
do.
If
you
please
stand
and
join
us
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance,
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
A
My
apologies
for
the
tardiness
of
our
start.
We're
a
couple
minutes
late
tonight
we
were
trying
to
resolve
some
technical
difficulties
with
our
operator,
who'd
be
taking
calls
for
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
participating.
So
my
apologies
for
that.
A
If
we
could
miss
christensen,
could
you
please
call
the
role
of
the.
A
A
A
A
A
G
A
Next.
Up
on
our
agenda
is
item
number
four:
a
public
comment
period.
It's
a
comment
period
of
20
minutes
that
we
have
each
city
council
meeting
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
comment
for
up
to
five
minutes
on
items
not
on
tonight's
agenda
and
before
we
get
to
that,
we
start
with
item
4.1,
which
is
a
response
to
prior
meetings.
Public
comments,
mr
fabrugi.
H
H
Why
the
penn
lake
town
home
project
was
rushed
through
when
there
was
a
petition
against
it
and
also
asked
for
an
apology
to
a
january
4th
caller
for
mischaracterizing.
Her
comments
related
to
the
fire
department
investigation
regarding
a
rope
that
was
directed
at
a
african-american
firefighter.
H
So
regarding
the
first
two
questions
indicate
that
we
have
a
statutory
requirement
to
process
land
use
applications
with
this
within
a
specific
time
period.
In
other
words,
the
property
owner
has
rights,
and
one
of
those
one
of
those
rights
within
the
statute
is
that
if
they
make
an
application
for
some
sort
of
land
use
entitlement,
we
have
to
process
it
within
a
certain
amount
of
days.
We
can't
we
can't
not
work
through
that.
H
In
the
case,
in
both
cases,
both
the
verizon
and
the
penn
lake
townhomes
project,
letters
were
sent
to
nearby
property
owners
and
separate
public
hearings
were
held
before
both
the
planning,
commission
and
the
city
council,
because
the
city
desires
and
actively
seeks
out
public
input
on
these
applications.
H
In
both
cases,
a
significant
amount
of
public
input
was
received
both
inside
and
outside
of
the
public
hearings
and
when
public
input
is
received,
the
city
carefully
considers
the
input
and
acts
on
it.
In
the
case
of
verizon,
discretion
was
highly
limited,
as
the
proposal
complied
with
with
code
requirements
and,
as
I
stated
before,
if
it's
within
the
city
code
as
an
expanded
permitted
use,
that's
that's
a
right
that
the
property
owner
has
in
the
case
of
the
townhomes
at
86th
and
penn.
H
The
discretion
by
the
council
was
higher,
but
there
were
many
competing
interests
at
play,
including
a
desire
to
provide
new
opportunities
for
home
ownership
within
bloomington
in
both
cases.
While
the
final
decision
wasn't
what
many
neighbors
desired,
the
public
input
received
led
directly
to
plan
modifications,
and
it
should
be
noted
that
additional
conditions
of
approval
were
added.
H
In
those
cases,
the
caller
made
a
comment
about
involving
legislators
on
the
verizon
project
because
of
the
noise,
so
that
the
state
noise
laws
could
be
changed.
It's
important
to
note
that
the
minnesota
pollution
control
agency
mpca,
not
the
state
legislature,
regulates
noise
pollution
through
the
administrative
rulemaking
process,
so
requesting
a
rules,
change
or
seeking
legislation
couldn't
have
been
accomplished
within
the
required
time
period
for
the
city
to
consider
the
application
and
then
finally,
the
comment
about
the
request
for
an
apology.
H
I'm
not
planning
to
provide
an
apology.
I
believe
that
comment
was
directed
at
council
members.
It
wouldn't
be
appropriate
for
me
to
speak
on
their
behalf.
Regarding
the
investigation
that
mr
clark
asked
for
an
update
on
there,
there
is
no
new
information.
H
I
have
not
heard
anything
council
members
from
the
fbi
since
a
conversation
that
I
had
with
them
in
late
august,
and
that's
all
that
there
is
to
report
on
that.
Mr
mayor.
A
Because
the
the
question
one
of
the
questions
was
directed
specifically
at
council
members,
I
know
that
council
member
martin
would
like
to
speak
to
this
matter
as
well.
Councilmember
martin.
F
Thank
you
mayor.
I
I
appreciate
that
thank
you
for,
for
the
background
there
jamie.
I
don't
want
to
spend
too
much
time
on
this,
but,
as
mentioned
during
that
last
public
comment
period
resident
had
requested
that
I
apologize
for
what
they
said
was
a
mischaracterization
of
another
speaker's
participation
in
a
public
comment
before
that.
So
just
just
to
be
crystal
clear,
I
just
wanted
to
share
what
what
I
was
doing
my
best
to
interpret
that
night.
F
The
quote
from
the
resident
was
this:
I
don't
even
know
how,
many
months
ago,
what
you
referred
to,
mr
mayor
as
a
quote
crude
noose
being
found
in
a
firefighter's
locker.
I
don't
know
when
that
took
place.
Even
it
was
so
long
ago.
Many
of
us
think
that
was
done
in
order
to
make
people
believe.
Bloomington
is
racist,
so
you
could
impress
others
with
your
quote:
wokeness
unintelligible
new
racial
equity
department.
F
A
A
I
think
any
reasonable
person
would
assume
that
the
implication
was
that
the
city
of
bloomington
had
created
this
issue
in
order
to
to
to
to
make
itself
to
make
the
city
look
better
in
terms
of
its
wokeness
or
in
terms
of
to
make
the
city
look
racist
and,
as
I
said
that
night
and
I'll
say
again,
that's
absolutely
absurd,
and
so,
as
councilmember
martin
said,
I
will
not
be
apologizing
for
a
misunderstanding
of
this
type.
Because
of
what
was
said.
A
If
we
want
to
have
a
discussion
on
clarification
on
this,
perhaps
we
could,
but
I
I
won't
rest.
I
won't
apologize
for
responding
the
way
that
I
did
on
that
evening
for
a
comment
that
I
assumed
was
directed
directly
at
the
city
of
bloomington
and
questioning
whether
or
not
as
councilmember
martin
said,
the
city
of
bloomington
had
intentionally
created
a
hate
crime
in
order
to
draw
attention
to
itself.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
We
can
move
on
now
to
item
4.2,
which
is
our
public
comment
period.
Public
comment
period,
as
I
said,
is
a
20-minute
period
at
the
beginning
of
each
council
meeting
where
we
allow
callers
to
call
in
and
speak
on
items
not
on
tonight's
agenda
for
up
to
five
minutes,
as
we
have
talked
about
in
the
past,
that
the
five-minute
time
limit
will
be
enforced
to
make
sure
that
everybody
has
a
fair
and
equitable
amount
of
time
to
speak.
We
will
not
be
responding.
It's
not
a
back
and
forth
opportunity
with.
A
If
there
is
an
obvious
misstatement
of
fact
or
a
correction
that
needs
to
be
made
or
a
a
fact
that
become
can
be
provided
a
simple
fact.
We
do
do
that,
but
otherwise
what
we
do
is
turn
it
over
to
mr
verbruggy
at
the
next
meeting.
So
we
have
an
opportunity
to
actually
prepare
a
response
to
callers
who
call
in
with
questions
or
comments.
I
B
A
Thank
you.
We
do
not
have
any
callers
as
we
had
talked
about
through
the
month
of
january,
we
moved
the
public
comment
period
to
the
start
of
the
the
agenda
for
city
council
meetings,
primarily
to
to
to
do
a
couple
of
things
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
set
and
relatively
specific
time
when
callers
could
assume
that
the
public
comment
period
would
be
taking
place
and
to
not
have
them
then
sit
through
introductory
items.
Not
have
them
wonder
exactly
when
we're
going
to
get
to
the
public
comment
period.
A
So
we
have
set
this
as
a
specific
time
and
I
think
I've
said
a
couple
of
times.
My
intention
then
was
also,
as
we've
said
this
time.
Specifically,
if
we
don't
have
any
callers
calling
in
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
close
the
public
comment
period
and
move
on.
Sometimes
we
have
doubled
back
it
it.
It
interrupts
the
flow
of
the
meeting
and
it's
kind
of
cumbersome.
A
So
we
we
did
it
from
the
month
of
july
or
the
month
of
january.
Excuse
me,
we
kind
of
we
left
it
open
into
the
the
full
20
minute
period.
What
I'm
going
to
do
tonight
and
starting
and
moving
forward,
is
we're
going
to
take
this
opportunity
if
we
have
no
callers
we're
going
to
close
the
public
comment
period
and
move
on
with
the
rest
of
the
agenda.
A
So
with
that,
I
will
close
tonight's
public
comment
period
and
we
can
move
on
to
our
introductory
items
tonight
and
item
5.1,
which
is
our
monthly
cova
19
update.
We,
we
have
dr
nick
kelly
from
our
department
of
public
health,
come
in
at
the
first
meeting
of
each
month
and
give
us
an
update
on
cobit
19
in
the
city
of
bloomington
good
evening,
dr
kelly,
and
welcome
thanks
for
being
with
us
tonight.
J
Good
evening,
mayor
council
members
this
morning,
bloomington
public
health
completed
its
16th
coved
19
vaccination
clinic.
We
vaccinated
1382
people
with
their
first
dose
of
the
vaccine,
we're
starting
our
second
dose
clinics
while
working
to
increase
our
ability
to
vaccinate
our
community.
We
continue
to
vaccinate
healthcare
providers
in
the
third
priority
group
of
phase
1a.
This
group
includes
unaffiliated
clinics,
dentists,
mental
health
providers
and
specialty
providers
serving
our
community
as
resources
to
support
vaccination
grows
and
the
vaccine
supply
starts
to
increase.
J
We
look
forward
to
being
able
to
provide
these
critical
vaccines
to
more
people
in
our
community.
While
we
are
grateful
for
the
incredible
demand,
we
continue
to
ask
for
patience
from
the
community,
keep
monitoring
the
city's
website
and
our
coven
19
vaccine
hotline
at
952-563-4960
for
more
information.
J
These
vaccines
are
another
tool
in
our
toolbox
and
are
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel.
Vaccines
are
our
exit
strategy
for
this
pandemic
and,
as
we
prepare
for
the
exit,
we
need
to
be
sure
as
few
of
our
neighbors
as
possible,
get
covered
in
the
coming
months,
since
it
will
take
us
time
to
roll
out
vaccine
to
everyone
who
wants
it.
We
have
to
stay
vigilant
and
focus
on
limiting
times
in
crowded
places
confined
and
enclosed
spaces
and
with
close
contacts.
J
J
If
you're
restarting
activities
get
tested,
if
you're
a
young
adult
returning
to
sports
extracurricular
activities
or
college,
please
get
tested,
we
have
fantastic
resources
for
testing
at
creekside
use
them,
while
the
case
rate
is
trending
downward.
At
this
time.
It
is
easy
to
let
your
guard
down
the
cdc
estimates
that
in
2020,
83
million
americans
were
infected
with
covid19,
and
over
4
million
were
hospitalized.
J
J
J
This
confirms
what
we
suspected
that
they
are
already
here.
The
primary
cause
for
concern
is
the
increased
transmission
risk
associated
with
these
variants,
a
transmission
rate
that's
50,
to
70
percent
higher
than
the
previous
strains
of
the
virus.
The
b117
is
the
variant
causing
significant
challenges
in
the
united
kingdom
and
ireland.
J
The
cdc
projects
that
b117
variant
will
become
the
dominant
strain
in
the
united
states
in
march.
This
means
we
can
expect
increasing
cases
in
the
coming
weeks
with
a
strain
or
strains
more
transmittable
than
we
have
previously
experienced
these
variants
in
our
current
high
case
loads
are
very
concerning.
J
I
continue
to
talk
with
people
who
are
tired
of
dealing
with
this
pandemic.
They
are
frustrated
with
the
pandemic
and
want
to
return
to
the
way
things
were
before
we
knew
what
cobid
was.
I
remind
them
that
I
feel
the
same
way,
but
the
reality
is
this:
is
our
new
normal,
I'm
frustrated,
angry,
sad,
dismayed
and
exhausted?
J
J
One
of
the
reasons
the
response
is
constantly
evolving
is
it
improves
with
the
science
the
virus
infecting
our
neighbors
is
always
looking
for
the
opportunity
to
infect
more
when
we
let
our
guard
down.
I
look
forward
to
the
day
when
I
can
tell
you
that
we've
successfully
controlled
cobit
19,
but
that's
months
from
now.
This
is
a
marathon,
not
a
sprint.
J
J
J
A
Thank
you,
dr
kelly.
I
couldn't
agree
more.
I
know
that
there's
frustration,
there's
impatience,
there's
just
a
boredom
with
with
all
of
this,
and
and
I
understand
it-
we're
pushing
a
year
now
that
we've
been
doing
this,
but
your
point
that
it's
balanced
with
the
fact
that
a
half
a
million
americans
will
be
dead
by
the
end
of
this
month
of
this
virus,
and
that
number
is
absolutely
staggering
in
my
mind,
absolutely
staggering
and
it
didn't
have
to
happen-
and
it's
it's
sad
and
it's
disappointing.
A
So
please
do
do
heed.
Dr
kelly's
advice
heed
his
warnings.
Please,
let's
continue
to
keep
ourselves
and
our
neighbors
safe.
I
think
it
would
be
absolutely
terrible
if
we're
as
we
get
to
the
end
of
this
pandemic,
that
our
neighbors
get
sick
and
die,
because
we
can
see
the
end
of
the
light
of
the
tunnel.
So
please
do
please
do
keep
your
guard
up.
B
Thank
you
mayor.
Excuse
me
just
a
couple
of
quick
questions
for
for
dr
kelly
here.
These
were
raised
at
the
community
conversation
I
had
on
thursday
night
and
I'll
just
ask
both
of
them,
and
you
can
kind
of
respond
as
you
as
you
see
fit,
but
folks
were
wondering
you
know,
given
the
the
logistical
challenges
that
have
been
experienced
as
far
as
vaccine
distribution.
B
If
there
is
any
role
for
you
know
the
the
lo
for
bloomington's
public
health
department
or
the
the
city
at
large
and
sort
of
assisting
with
that
effort
and
what
we
might
be
able
to
do,
and
then
there
was
also
a
question
about
whether
or
not
there
are
plans
for
vaccine
clinics
in
sort
of
cooperation
with
the
school
district.
J
Mr
mayor
councilman
colter,
the
logistics
behind
the
vaccine
distribution
are
incredibly
challenging
and
and
frustrating
that's
that's
a
common
thing
that
all
of
our
staff
are
familiar
with
and
experiencing.
We
are
actively
vaccinating.
As
I
said,
we've
done
16
clinics.
We
got,
I
believe,
three
more
scheduled
this
week
and
we
are
working
as
quickly
as
we
can
to
get
through
our
1a
priority
populations.
J
J
It
is
an
amazing
effort
to
continue
to
see
our
city
staff
and
our
our
public
health
division
and
our
fire
department
and
our
police
department
really
rallying
around
to
make
this
happen
and
work,
and
so
we're
really
proud
of
that
work.
We're
going
to
keep
doing
it.
As
far
as
vaccinating
with
the
school
districts,
we
have
plans
to
support
the
school
district
in
vaccination.
J
J
A
J
A
There's
no
other
questions.
I'd
like
to
thank
you,
dr
kelly,
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
the
work
that
everybody
in
public
health
is
doing
and
all
the
folks
working
on
this
for
and
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
Thank
you
much
for
the
work
that
you
are
doing
with
that
we
will
move
on
to
item
six,
which
is
our
consent
agenda.
For
this
evening,
council
member
carter
has
our
agenda
our
consent
agenda,
councilmember
carter.
K
I
do
so,
obviously
I
will
be
holding
6-1
for
our
donations
and
then
I
have
not
heard
of
any
other
holds,
but
I
will
do
one
can.
C
A
A
B
A
L
Yeah,
you
know-
and
I
I
didn't
want
to
drag
this
out
very
long.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
public
knew
and
generally
that
the
council,
you
know-
I'm
sure-
has
also
reviewed
this
new
about
the
comments
that
we're
making
to
the
excel
energies.
L
2020
2034
integrated
resource
plan,
especially
since
we're
working
with
so
many
different
entities
to
bring
forward
some
comments
and
some
things
that
are
real
priorities
when
it
comes
to
our
strategic
priorities,
not
only
with
sustainability,
but
also
with
respect
to
several
of
the
other
priorities
we
have
in
terms
of
equity
and
inclusion
and
health
and
all
policies
kind
of
really
wraps.
L
All
these
things
together
here
within
this
particular
letter
that
we
are
sending
sending
off
a
letter
of
support
out
with
with
respect
to
how
energy
is
going
to
be
used
over
the
next
10
to
20
years
in
the
state
of
minnesota
and
try
to
bring
it
into
our
sphere
of
reducing
different
forms
of
energy
that
are
used
within
the
community.
I'm
not
sure
staff
wanted
to
comment
on
this
to
to
give
some
more
specific
details,
but
I
want
to
just
kind
of
give
an
overview
of
that.
H
This
thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
just
looking
over
to
chris
to
see
if
we
have
emma
struss
our
sustainability
coordinator
on
the
line
we.
I
D
With
us,
thank
you
good
evening.
D
Mayor
and
council
members
councilmember
lohman,
I
don't
have
any
additional
details
to
provide
other
than
that.
The
sustainability
commission
motion
to
approve
this
letter
and
work
with
the
other
cities
that
have
reviewed
recommendations
for
excel.
So
by
february
11th.
The
public
comment
period
will
close,
and
so,
as
councilmember
lohman
mentioned,
this
is
focused
on
equity
and
making
sure
that
there's
inclusion
in
conversations
with
resource
planning
moving.
H
I
was
just
going
to
make
one
additional
comment:
council,
member
loma
and
mr
mayor-
if
that's
okay
in
the
letter,
since
some
folks
may
be
watching
and
haven't
gone
through
the
packet.
H
Our
carbon
reduction
goal
is
75
percent
by
the
year
2035.
So
within
the
next
50
years
that
will
reduce
our
carbon
output
by
75
percent
and
then
our
energy
goal
is
a
95
reduction
in
citywide
electricity
related
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
we
have
some
bold
and
audacious
goals
and
we're
working
with
other
cities
to
influence
organizations
like
excel
energy,
who
have
a
very
important
role
in
advancing
these
targets
as
well.
So
thank
you,
councilmember
lohmann,
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
it.
A
M
A
N
M
A
A
K
We
had
a
couple
donations
to
our
public
health
department
through
united
way
donors,
as
well
as
the
senior
blue
book,
and
then
we
had
two
very
generous,
generous
donations
to
our
police
department,
so
dan
plant,
who
donated
500
face
shields
and
then
rosemary
townsend
donated
had
contributed
a
very
generous
donation
and
has
done
this
dona
has
donated
this
amount
over
the
past
three
years
for
the
police
department's
checkup
from
the
neck
up
program,
and
that
was
a
donation
of
twenty
thousand
dollars.
K
And
so
I
want
to
extend
our
sincerest
thanks
to
her,
as
well
as
the
other
donors
who
who
really
help
our
city
out
and
help
our
our
our
public
health
department,
our
pace
department
out
and
in
all
of
the
other
ways
that
people
contribute.
K
A
Do
we
have
a
second
second
on
a
motion
by
council
member
carter,
second
by
council
member
martin
to
accept
donations?
And
yes,
absolutely
we
always
do
send
out
the
thank
yous
and
staff.
I
know:
does
a
very
nice
job,
but
boy
a
gift
of
that
size
specifically
for
for
the
police
department
and
for
the
the
mental
well-being
of
our
police
officers.
I
think
that's
very
generous
and
very
very
thoughtful.
So
thank
you
so
very
much
for
that
gift
counsel.
Any
additional
comments.
A
A
You
move
on
then
to
item
7
on
our
agenda,
which
is
our
hearings,
resolutions
and
ordinances
and
item
7.1,
which
is
a
resolution
regarding
the
temporary
pandemic
housing
and
we've
been
having
this
discussion.
I
know
that
the
the
planning
commission
had
a
couple
of
meetings
on
it
talking
about
a
resolution
to
create
some
zoning
flexibility
and
putting
together
some
regulations
specifically
for
temporary
pandemic
housing,
as
it
relates
to
the
global
covet
19
pandemic,
and
I
see
glenn
markigaard
from
planning
is
he
is
heather
worthington.
A
I
believe
our
community
community
development
director
is
going
to
lead
us
off
on
this.
Ms
worthington
good
evening.
O
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
council,
members,
I'm
going
to
kick
off
this
discussion
this
evening
and
then
hand
it
over
to
glenn
markegaard
our
planning
manager.
So
this
evening
we
are
bringing
you
a
resolution
on
temporary
pandemic
housing
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
Thank
you.
O
O
Traditional
shelters,
which
are
typically
structured
in
such
a
way
that
people
sleep,
pretty
much
shoulder
to
shoulder
on
mats
or
on
cats,
cannot
achieve
social
distancing
in
those
traditional
shelter
settings,
and
so
the
shelters
have
had
to
find
alternate
locations
for
some
of
their
clients,
who
had
either
medical
reasons
to
need
to
be
socially
distanced
or
were
elderly
and
fit
into
other
demographics
that
might
make
them
more
vulnerable
to
covet
19..
At
the
same
time,
that
was
happening.
O
Business
and
leisure
travel
was
slowing
dramatically,
primarily
because
of
many
states,
regulations,
around
travel
and
or
considerations
of
public
health
concerns
around
flying
and
then
hotels
then
became
a
very
viable
option
for
shelter
providers
based
on
that
low
occupancy
and
very
reduced
rates,
and
in
fact,
hennepin,
county
and
ramsey
county
both
have
been
utilizing
hotels
widely
for
shelter
in
order
to
achieve
social
distancing
guidelines,
but
in
bloomington
hotels
are
designed
and
zoned
as
a
transient
use.
O
In
other
words,
you
are
not
intended
to
live
in
them,
you're,
intended
to
stay
for
a
a
stay
of
no
more
than
30
days
and
and
oftentimes
just
a
few
days.
That's
fine.
O
The
goal
of
this
resolution
tonight
is
to
respond
to
the
current
issue
and
to
address
this
immediate
need.
That
is
exacerbated
by
the
pandemic
itself,
and
it
has
a
very
narrow
purpose
to
focus
on
really
how
best
to
address
the
temporary
use
of
hotels
as
a
shelter
and
to
minimize
potential
negative
impacts.
It
does
not
allow
the
use
of
hotels
as
a
shelter
use
beyond
the
pandemic,
and
it
does
not
address
the
long.
O
The
issue:
excuse
me
the
issue
of
long-term
homelessness
in
the
city
and
around
the
city,
and
it
does
not
address
the
use
of
hotels
by
individuals
as
affordable
housing,
so
it
is
extremely
narrow.
Next
slide.
Please
and
the
policy
guidance
for
this
approach
is
found
in
forward
2040
within
the
housing
element
of
your
comprehensive
plan,
goal
four
to
enhance
access
to
specialized
housing
and
services
and
strategy
4.2
to
support
efforts
to
address
homelessness
next
slide.
Please.
O
The
next
executive
order
actually
addressed
the
closure
of
encampments.
So
throughout
the
metro
area,
there
have
been
a
number
of
areas
where
homeless
individuals
have
been
living
outdoors,
either
in
tents
or
in
other
structures,
and
it
defined
that
bad
order
to
find
housing,
shelter
and
homelessness
prevention
staff
as
essential
workers.
O
The
final
executive
order
that
was
involved
with
homelessness
was
a
more
recent
order,
which
revised
the
guidance
on
the
encampments
and
directed
communities
to
create
safe
housing
and
sheltering
options
for
people
experiencing
homelessness,
so
I
will
hand
it
off
to
glenn
market
guard
now.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
Mayor
busy
council
members
good
evening,
the
planning
commission
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
this
issue
at
three
meetings
in
november
and
december,
and
they
really
focused
on
two
issues,
namely
the
process
that
would
be
used
and
the
standards
that
would
apply
so
in
terms
of
process.
We
originally
looked
at
an
interim
use,
permit
process
and
later
pivoted
to
the
resolution
approach
and
that
pivot
was
primarily
based
on
planning
commission
recommendation.
N
They
prefer
the
resolution
approach
because
we
can
put
it
into
place
more
quickly.
We
can
have
faster
processing
of
applications
approximately
one
week
through
the
resolution
approach
versus
about
seven
weeks
through
the
interim
use,
permit
process
and
then
once
it
once
it's
in
place,
it's
more
flexible
and
easily
amended
down
the
road.
If
we
need
to
amend
it
in
terms
of
standards,
the
planning
commission
felt
strongly
that
the
city
should
avoid
requirements
for
rezoning
and
should
prioritize
proximity
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
one.
N
N
It
also
follows
the
governor's
orders
for
flexibility
during
the
pandemic,
so
what
we
would
have
the
service
provider
and
the
hotel
would
collaborate
and
submit
an
application
and
then
that
application
would
be
reviewed
at
the
staff
level
and
staff
would
take
action
on
that
application,
so
a
variety
of
divisions
would
be
involved,
and
this
is
in
contrast
to
the
interim
use,
permit
process
which
would
be
reviewed
by
the
planning
commission
and
then
the
city
council
in
terms
of
recommended
standards.
The
resolution
includes
requirements
for
a
security
plan
that
would
be
approved
by
the
police
chief.
N
N
It's
also
a
requirement
that
the
applicant
submit
a
transition
plan,
and
that
would
talk
about
once
the
pandemic
is
over.
How
would
the
use
transition
back
to
the
regular
hotel
use
and
the
resolution
specifies
that
that
transition
must
take
place
no
more
than
180
days
after
the
earlier
of
either
that
expiration
of
the
governor's
emergency
orders
or
the
city
council
rescinding?
The
resolution
there's
also
requirements
in
the
resolution
that
the
hotel
and
the
service
provider
allow
for
periodic
inspections
of
the
site.
N
N
Only
first
requirements
is
that
the
facility
be
within
one
half
mile
of
transit
and
the
way
we're
defining
that
is
within
a
half
mile
of
either
a
bus
stop
or
a
transit
station
that
has
a
half
hour
service
or
better
in
the
peak
period,
and
that
has
some
level
of
weekend
service
and
on
on
this
map.
Those
are
the
areas
that
show
up
in
blue
all
of
those
areas.
N
Qualify
second
requirement
is
that
the
facility
be
within
a
half
mile
of
either
a
grocer
or
a
pharmacy
wherever
we
have
a
full-service,
grocer
or
pharmacy
in
the
city.
We
have
a
lot
of
ancillary
commercial
services
in
that
general
vicinity,
so
this
requirement
basically
says
that
a
new
facility
should
be
within
reasonable
walking
distance
to
a
commercial
area
where
residents
can
find
services
that
they
might
need.
N
Then
the
third
requirement
is
a
prohibition
and
that's
within
airport
safety
zones,
where
the
msp
airport
zoning
ordinance
prohibits
residential
use
and
those
areas
show
up
on
the
map
with
this
black
white
hatched
area,
and
we
do
have
six
hotels
that
fall
within
that
safety
zone
and
then,
finally,
we
would
have
a
prohibition
within
single
family
and
townhome
zoning
districts.
N
O
Thank
you,
glenn
sorry,
my
video
was
not
working.
Thank
you
glenn
this
evening.
I
I
also
just
want
to
mention
that
we
did
a
significant
amount
of
engagement
around
this
resolution.
We
did
distribute
the
planning
commission
packet
to
our
shelter
providers,
which
include,
excuse
me
hennepin
county,
our
savior
and
saint
stevens.
O
We
held
a
public
hearing
on
the
iup
ordinance
approach
with
the
planning
commission
and
we
sent
a
notice
via
email
to
esubscribe
groups.
On
two
occasions.
We
also
reached
out
through
the
city
website
and
posted
information,
about
the
proposed
amendments,
and
then
we
sent
a
letter
to
stakeholders
specifically
to
hotel
owners
in
the
city
and
included
that
correspondence
in
the
council
packet.
O
So
again
we
envisioned
that
this
is
a
very
temporary
solution
to
to
this
situation
and
to
maintaining
the
city's
zoning
authority
as
we
go
forward
through
the
remainder
of
the
pandemic.
Next
slide.
I
think
that
might
be
last
slide.
This
is
the
motion
we
are
asking
you
to
consider
this
evening,
we're
happy
to
stand
for
questions
now.
Thank
you.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
glenn.
You
had
mentioned
a
couple
times
that
the
provisions
of
the
application
only
apply
to
new
applicants.
C
I
presume
that
they
will
also
need
to
file
for
the
application,
but
may
not
have
some
of
the
restrictions
applied
to
them,
such
as
the
zoning
restrictions
and
bus
line
and
distance
to
certain
facilities.
Is
that
a
correct
interpretation.
O
Mayor
bussey,
council,
member
baloga,
that
is
correct.
We
will
require
those
providers
and
hotels
to
apply,
but
because
they
are
existing,
they
may
not
meet
the
zoning
requirements
of
the
resolution.
Nonetheless,
they
will
be
held
to
the
same
standard
in
terms
of
the
length
of
time
that
they
will
be
allowed
to
operate
after
the
expiration
of
the
state's
executive
orders.
C
Thank
you
so
early
on
well
not
early
on,
but
for
quite
some
period
of
time
we
had
some
degrees
of
difficulties
with
some
of
the
hotel
sites
and
I
didn't
find
any
revocation
of
the
ability
to
continue
to
operate
as
a
shelter
if
the
stated
requirements
are
not
followed.
Can
you
speak
to
that?
For
me,
please.
O
Mayor
bussey,
councilmember
beloga,
are
you
speaking
about
some
of
the
increased
police,
calls
that
we
had
at
a
couple
of
locations
specifically.
C
O
Mayor
busy
council
member
beloga,
our
police
department
has
worked
extremely
closely
with
the
owners
of
those
properties
and
with
the
providers
themselves
to
address
those
ongoing
security
and
safety
issues,
and
while
they
have
not
been
eliminated,
they
have
decreased
substantially
over
the
last
few
months,
and
I
think
we
have
established
a
good
working
relationship
with
those
providers
and
with
the
owners
of
those
properties
to
ensure
that
we
don't
see
the
the
scale
and
severity
of
public
safety
concerns
that
we
saw
last
summer.
And
so
I
think
things
have
improved.
O
I
think
they
will
continue
to
improve,
and
so
that's
that's
something
that
we've
put
a
significant
amount
of
time
into,
as
have
the
providers
and
the
property
owners.
C
Thank
you
for
that
response
to
follow
up
on
that,
ms
worthington.
My
question
also
was
with
respect
to
replication.
If
the
application
is
not,
you
know,
the
requirements
of
the
application,
such
as
a
security
plan
or
fire
safety
plan,
are
not
being
adhered
to
through
the
course
of
time.
O
Thank
you,
council,
member
beloga,
mayor
bussie.
This
resolution
would
give
us
additional
regulatory
authority
over
those
property
owners
and
providers.
So
if
the
elements
of
this
resolution
are
not
adhered
to
by
those
entities,
then
the
city
can
take
additional
action
and
a
permit
could
be
revoked
and
the
council
can
revoke
permits
at
any
time.
C
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
baloga,
so
miss
worthington.
If
I
quit
I'll
we'll
get
to
councilmember
carter
in
just
a
second,
I
know
you've
got
a
question
council
member,
so
just
to
be
clear.
The
recommended
standards
that
we
see
on
our
screen
here
of
these
would
apply
to
anyone
applying
for
a
new
abil,
the
new
ability
to
house
a
homeless
population
in
the
hotels.
But
in
addition,
the
existing
hotels
would
have
to
meet
these
recommended
standards.
They
would
need
a
security
plan.
A
They
would
need
a
fire
safety
plan,
management
and
operations,
plan,
building
and
site
requirements,
transition
plan
inspections,
the
only
thing
that
they
would
not
necessarily
be
held
to
is
the
location
requirements
because
they're,
obviously
an
existing
facility.
So
but
the
other
standards
that
are
recommended
there
are
current
hotels
that
are
operating
as
shelters
would
be
required
to
to
meet
these
requirements
and-
and
if
not,
the
city
would
have
enhanced
regulatory
authority
to
deal
with
it.
Is
that
correct.
K
Thank
you
mayor,
so
heather.
You
just
mentioned
that
there
were
some
pretty
significant
public
safety
concerns
in
2020,
and
so
I
understand
that
there
will
be
a
security
plan
in
place,
but
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
how
increased
amount
or
a
number
of
medical
incidents
would
be
handled,
because
I
know
that
there,
a
surprising
amount
of
the
public
safety
related
calls
were
due
to
medical
incidents,
and
so
just
you
know,
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
are
watching
and
have
been
concerned
about
this
issue.
K
O
Thank
you,
mayor
bo
city,
councilmember
carter.
We
have
had
a
significant
number
of
medical
calls
at
at
least
one
of
the
locations
early
on.
We
had
them
at
at
several
locations.
There's
two
things
that
have
happened
since
I
would
say
mid-summer.
O
The
first
is
that
back
in
the
fall
late
fall
of
20,
the
two
providers-
saint
stephens
and
our
savior
began
working
with
hcmc
and
a
a
special
program
that
they
offer
through
their
emt
program,
which
is
to
have
a
paramedic
on
site
at
the
at
that
location,
to
assist
with
minor
or
calls
that
can
be
answered
or
addressed
there
on
site
without
transportation.
O
The
second
piece
that
I
think
is
equally
important
is
that
the
security
that
I'm
sorry,
the
owner
of
the
property,
has
a
24-hour
security
on
site
and
they've,
been
working
very
closely
with
the
police
department
and,
I
think,
utilizing
the
police
department's
administrative
authority
for
issuing
things
like
trespass
notices
and
tickets,
and
I
think
that
that
has
has
been
a
significant
improvement
in
terms
of
people
accessing
the
site
who
are
not
living
there,
which
has
been
a
more
of
an
issue
lately.
O
And
so
that's
something
that
I
think
is
being
addressed
again,
not
perfectly.
But
we
think
it's
improving
considerably
in
terms
of
the
relationship.
That's
been
built
between
the
police
department
and
the
provider
and
owner.
K
So
moving
forward
if
there
were
to
be
new
sites
or
new
applicants,
I
assume,
then,
that
the
plan
to
address
any
kind
of
increase
in
medical
incidents
would
have
they
would
have
to
have
that
in
their
management
and
operations
plan
like
to
prepare
for
that.
O
L
Thank
you
mayor
and
ms
worthington,
so
the
council
revokes
a
permit
for
a
hotel
after
we
have
problems
that
don't
seem
to
get
resolved.
What
happens
to
the
residents.
O
Mayor
busy
council
member
lowman,
if
the
permit
was
revoked,
if
we
were
not
able
to
achieve
the
goals
that
we
have
within
this
resolution,
working
with
our
partners
revocation
would
be
a
last
resort,
but
it
would
result
in
the
displacement
of
those
individuals.
So
we
we
are.
We
are
currently
and
will
continue
to
take,
take
a
long
and
intentional
process
towards
compliance
with
the
providers
rather
than
merely
revocation.
O
Thank
you,
councilmember
lohmann
mayor.
The
the
eviction
moratorium
that
the
state
currently
has
in
place
does
significantly
limit
our
authority
to
revoke
a
license
in
this
case.
That
would
result
in
displacement.
It
does
not
entirely
eliminate
our
ability
to
do
that,
but
it
does
severely
limit
how
we
do
that,
and
it
has
to
be
extremely,
has
to
be
obviously
extremely
thoughtful
and
a
process
that
encourages
compliance
rather
than
merely
enforcing.
L
Thank
you
for
that
clarification
on
that
it.
I
just
had
some
questions
in
terms
of
this
security
plan
that
we've
got
out
there.
Have
we
used
this
in
other
circumstances,
you
know:
what's
the
history,
what
what's
what's
involved
with
the
security
plan
help
me
understand,
you
know
what
those
things
look
like
and
what
these
folks
are
filling
out.
O
The
security
plan
really
grew
out
of
a
conversation
that
we
were
having
with
hennepin
county
early
on
about
the
change
in
use
of
a
particular
property
in
the
city
that
that
county
was
considering
acquiring
and
we
established
a
security
plan
working
with
the
police
department
and
police
chief
potts
at
the
time,
and
so
that
was
a
process
and
a
document
that
we
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
working
on
with
the
provider
and
with
the
police
department
to
ensure
that
we
were
adequately
covering
the
different
issues
related
to
security
at
the
at
the
hotels
and
and
a
lot
of
those
things
have
to
do
with
existing
regulations
that
the
city
can
enforce.
O
Administratively
things
like
the
fire
code,
things
like
trespass
and
other
features
of
our
local
or
state
ordinance,
local
ordinances
or
state
statutes,
and
so
that
has
been
that's
been
something
that
our
partners
in
the
police
department
have
handled
and
we're
happy
to
provide
you
with
that
that
security
plan
that
was
developed
as
a
result
of
those
discussions
and,
I
think,
formed
the
basis
of
the
the
plan.
That's
referenced
in
the
resolution
this
evening.
L
Yeah,
I
would
like
to
see
that
plan
and
I'd
also
be
curious
about.
You
know,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
got
anybody
from
the
police
department.
That
could
talk
about
those
conversations,
because
I
am
one
of
the
things
I'm
interested
in.
You
know
we
talk
about
our
strategic
priorities
around.
You
know
not
only
making
sure
that
our
neighbors
are
kind
of
you
know.
The
different
commercial
businesses
are
kind
of
you
know,
kind
of
set
up
and
protected
in
terms
of
their
commerce.
I
know
some
some
responses.
L
I
had
gotten
from
folks,
you
know
in
terms
of
folks
loitering
and
you
know
being
kind
of
a
nuisance.
You
know
in
their
eyes,
but
then,
on
the
other
hand,
we
have
the
our
strategic
priority
around
equity
and
making
sure
that
folks
that
are
coming
here
feel
welcome
in
our
community,
no
matter
what
their
their
plight,
and
so
I'm
curious
about
how
the
the
police,
chief
they're
gonna,
balance
those
two
interests
that
we
have
within
that
security
plan.
L
I'm
just
just
real
curious
about
how
that's
going
to
work
and
how
that's
going
to
kind
of
operate
out
there
in
the
field,
because
I
know
that
you
know
both
ends
of
the
spectrum
we
could.
We
could
have
issues
that
I
want
to
know
how
we're
proactively,
looking
towards
that.
Certainly
the
conversation
with
hennifer
county,
and
that
was
certainly
within
the
packet,
I'm
just
curious
about
how
they
deal
with
those
two
priorities.
L
So
I'm
not
sure
if
the,
if
there's
a
chief
police
available,
if
there's
somebody
who
could
talk
to
speak
to
that
I'd
just
be
curious
about
that.
O
Thank
you,
mayor
busse,
councilmember
lohman.
We
do
have
chief
hartley
on
the
line.
I
think
he
can
speak
to
this.
If
he's
available.
E
Mayor
bossie,
council
member
lohman,
I
think
obviously
those
are
really
great
points
just
to
kind
of
build
on
what
heather
worthington
said.
The
communication
that
exists
today
compared
to
six
months
ago
is
night
and
day
we
weekly
meet
with
members
of
the
hotel
staff
and
along
with
police
personnel,
community
development,
people,
environmental
health,
so
that
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
that's
the
importance
of
being
on
the
same
page.
E
Our
calls
for
service
are
dropping
the
number
of
arrests
out
of
the
hotels
are
dropping,
and
you
know
part
of
that
was
in
response
to
the
concerns
from
people
that
live
in
the
neighborhoods
and
letting
them
know
that
it
wasn't
necessarily
the
people
that
were
staying
or
displaced
temporarily
in
the
hotels.
E
I
hate
to
admit
it,
but
it
was
the
people
that
were
coming
to
visit
those
people
and
so
just
kind
of
tightening
up
the
access
points.
In
and
out
of
the
hotels
and
just
stronger
communication,
I
think
went
into
developing
a
security
plan
that
addresses
not
only
like,
I
said,
those
that
are
staying
there,
but
also
those
that
are
looking
to
kind
of
almost
prey
on
those
those
folks
that
are
temporarily
displaced
by
bringing
a
criminal
element
to
those
locations.
So
we
can
get
a
copy
of
the
security
plan
to
you.
E
L
I
really
want
to
thank
both.
You
know,
chief
hartley
and
miss
worthington,
really
ensuring
that
you
know
that
the
public's
concerns
were
heard.
We
took
action
on
those
things
and
for
those
folks
that
were
coming
in
there,
you
know
in
terms
of
being
treated
equally
and
equitable
situation.
L
Those
things
were
also
put
to
put
together
and
as
we
move
towards
possibly
passing
this
piece,
we'll
continue
to
be
proactive,
as
the
bloomington
police
department
has
been
on
all
these
occasions
to
try
to
get.
You
know,
try
to
strike
that
balance
the
the
right
way,
which
I'm
looking
forward
to
kind
of
seeing
with
this
very
important
piece
here.
Thank
you
both
for
speaking
to
that.
A
P
Yeah.
Thank
you.
Mayor
just
got
a
couple,
quick
questions.
There
was
discussion
of
two
alternatives
that
were
looked
at.
One
was
resolution.
The
other
was
interim
use.
It
seems
like
the
resolution
was
done.
It's
flexible,
it's
quicker,
seemed
to
be
a
lot
of
benefits.
Are
there
benefits
to
the
interim
use
that
we're
missing
out
on
by
not
having
that
in
place?.
O
Mayor
busy
council
member
excuse
me
councilmember
nelson
I'd
like
to
ask
glenn
marker
guard
to
speak
to
this
from
a
zoning
standpoint.
N
Mr
mark
mayor,
bussey,
council
member
nelson,
probably
the
the
biggest
issue,
is
not
having
public
hearings
through
the
interim
use
permit
process.
There
would
be
a
public
hearing,
at
least
before
the
planning
commission,
so
with
this
process,
while
it's
quicker,
there
would
not
be
the
same
level
of
public
hearing.
P
All
right,
thank
you,
and
I'm
pretty
sure.
I
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
this
only
applies
to
a
emergency
declared
by
the
governor,
and
this
would
apply
to
future
emergencies
that
a
future
governor
may
order
and
would
it,
but
it
does
not
take
into
account
other
circumstances
that
may
lead
the
county
or
other
social
service
agencies
to
look
to
hotels
to
meet
some
of
their
needs.
P
O
Council
member-
I'm
sorry
mayor
of
busan,
council,
member
nelson,
no,
this
is
this
is
limited
to
only
covid
or
a
pandemic.
In
this
case
there
there
are
other
provisions
for
emergency
use
of
property
during
an
emergency,
and
that
would
be
in
different
statute
in
minnesota
and
carried
out
through
hennepin,
county
and
or
our
local
emergency
management,
and
that's
a
that
is
something
I
would
have
to
ask
our
fire
chief
seal
to
speak
to
from
an
emergency
management
standpoint.
But
I
do
believe
that
there
are
other
provisions
for
use
of
property
in
emergencies.
P
P
This
is
just
maybe
a
nitpicky
question,
but
one
of
the
things
was
it
had
to
be
within
a
certain
distance
of
a
grocer
or
a
pharmacy.
P
Why
why
an
ore
instead
of
an
and
why
not
both
it
doesn't
matter,
I
mean,
does
it
really
matter
I
mean?
Maybe
most
grocery
stores
have
pharmacies.
So,
mr.
N
Mayor
boosie,
councilmember,
nelson,
all
right
yeah,
we
thought
of
a
grocer
in
pharmacy
kind
of
as
a
proxy
for
a
higher
scale
of
commercial
uses.
As
you
mentioned,
a
most
grocers
tend
to
have
a
pharmacy
within
them.
Some
pharmacies
have
some
grocery
items,
but
really
key
is
that
for
either
one.
You
have
a
lot
of
associated
commercial
businesses
nearby.
P
Next
question:
what
happens
if
we
approve
a
security
plan,
but
for
whatever
reason
it
isn't
working,
there's
still
a
number
of
security
issues?
I
heard
from
chief
hartley
that
there
are
regular
meetings.
There
is
clear
expectations
that
the
city
is
setting.
Does
this
process
allow
us
to
continue
to
do
that
and
set
those
expectations,
or
once
they
have
an
approval?
O
Mayor
busy
council
member
nelson,
they
absolutely
will
continue.
We
will
continue
to
have
meetings
the
permit
addresses
this
specifically,
and
we
will
continue
to
have
regular
meetings
with
the
providers
and
with
the
owners
of
these
properties
to
ensure
that
the
requirements
of
the
permit
are
being
adhered
to,
and
also
that
the
security
plans
themselves
are
being
carried
out
and
the
relationship
that
the
police
department
has
built
with
with
these
providers
and
owners,
primarily
through
our
crime
prevention
officer.
O
Erica
brown
have
been
really,
I
think,
have
really
shown
that
there
is
a
serious
commitment
on
their
side
to
address
these
issues
and
to
work
with
the
police
department,
and
that
will
continue.
P
Right,
thank
you
very
much.
That's
all
of
my
questions.
I
just
would
like
to
thank
everyone
that
worked
on
this
and
and
thank
the
our
new
chief
chief
hartley
and
the
work
of
our
police
department
for
getting
their
arms
around
these
issues
and
really
working
on
behalf
of
the
community
here.
So
it's
a
it's
a
great
job
by
the
whole
team
here
so
appreciate
it.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
nelson,
so
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions,
but
what
I'd
like
to
clarify
here?
First
of
all,
this
is
this
is
a
vote
for
a
resolution
by
the
city
council.
Officially,
this
is
not
a
public
hearing,
but
I
know
that
there
are
folks
who
are
watching
who
are
probably
interested,
who
have
comments.
Who
would
like
to
bring
some
things
forward
to
this
and
at
my
discretion,
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
do
that.
A
If
they
do
have
questions,
if
they
do
have
comments
phone
numbers
on
your
screen
there
please
do
call
in
and
we'll
we'll
limit
it
to
a
couple
of
minutes
make
sure
we
get
as
many
people
as
we
can
or
if
we
we'll
get
to
all
that
we
can
and
also
I
want
it
to
be
specifically
to
this
resolution
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
and
if
we
could
do
that,
while
people
are
calling
in
while
we've
got
folks
taking
up
that
opportunity.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions.
A
The
first
we
had
at
least
one
person
in
in
the
city
comment
about
the
180
day,
transition
period,
commenting
and
that's
an
awfully
long
time,
especially
given
the
the
the
the
rapidly
changing
nature
of
what's
going
on
with
this.
So
why
180
days,
why
not
something
shorter,
30
or
60
days
at
the
at
the
most.
A
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
do
understand
it
does
I
I
do
agree
the
six
month.
Time
period
seems
a
bit
long,
but
I
also
do
understand
that,
given
the
number
of
folks
that
are
that
would
be
staying
in
any
of
these
shelters,
it
might
take
a
while
to
find
permanent
accommodations
for
them
or
other
accommodations.
I
O
We
think
will
be
very
helpful
for
the
next
situation
like
this,
and
it
may
be
a
pandemic.
We
don't.
We
don't
know
it's
hard
to
know
what
will
happen
next
sometimes,
but
we
we
are
hopeful
that
this
work
will
pay
off
in
the
long
term
as
well.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
for
that
thanks,
we
we
opened
it
and
gave
people
an
opportunity,
but
apparently
no
one
is
calling
in
to
comment
council
any
additional
questions
or
comments.
On
this.
I
see
council
member
beloga's
hand
up
council,
member
baloga.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Heather.
Have
any
what
approach
have
other
cities
taken
with
this
similar
issue?
C
Have
have
any
of
them
gone
to
this
temporary
regulations,
or
are
we
out
in
front
of
us.
O
Mayor
busey,
councilmember
beloga,
I
I
did
some
inquiries
early
on
on
this
issue.
I
believe
the
city
of
minneapolis
has
some
regulatory
process
in
place
regarding
the
use
of
hotels,
the
city
of
saint
paul
didn't
appear
to
and
they
were
working
very
closely
with
ramsey
county.
O
I
will
say
that
bloomington's
definition
of
a
transient
use
in
the
zoning
code
was
the
primary
excuse
me.
My
cat
is
pushing
my
computer
on
was
the
primary
driver
behind
us
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
addressed
the
land,
use
and
zoning
considerations
that
were
created
by
this
use,
and
so
so
that's
something
that
I
think
is
perhaps
unique
to
bloomington.
But
I
I
don't
have
a
we
don't.
We
did
not
survey
other
cities
on
this
issue.
C
Oh,
thank
you,
a
follow-up
question.
If
I
may
miss
mayor.
C
Oh,
thank
you.
In
many
cases
we
put
caps
on
things
like
this.
A
number
of
pawn
stores
you
know
per
population
per
you
know.
C
Various
metrics
to
to
control
this
is
it
possible
that
we
will
see
a
significant
uptick
by
the
creation
of
this
resolution
in
more
of
our
hotels
being
put
into
pandemic
response,
shelters.
O
We
understand
their
current
homeless
needs
for
shelter,
and
we
understand
that
that
population
has
has
now
kind
of
ceased
to
grow,
and
let
me
explain
that
a
little
bit
so
back
in
the
summer
when
hennepin
county
and
the
city
of
minneapolis
were
actively
closing
the
encampments,
the
outdoor
encampments
that
were
that
were
in
some
of
the
parks
in
minneapolis
and
other
locations.
O
We
knew
that
there
would
be
an
influx
of
people
needing
shelter,
as
those
encampments
were
closed.
As
of
a
few
weeks
ago,
the
all
of
the
encampments
in
minneapolis
are
now
closed
and
the
last
census
count
that
I
heard
for
ramsey
county,
not
hennepin
county.
I
don't
have
that
number,
but
ramsay
county
had
100
people
still
sleeping
rough
outdoors,
but
that's
down
from
a
high
of
350.,
so
that
just
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
fluctuation
of
the
homeless
population,
but
we
don't
anticipate
a
major
growth
in
that
homeless.
O
Population
now
and
hennepin
county
has
been
relocating
some
of
the
clients
that
they
were
housing
back
into
either
shelters
or
permanent
housing.
And
so
we
see
that
that
trend
will
probably
continue
towards
either
identifying
short-term
or
permanent
housing
for
people
and
then
not
not
too
many
additional
new
clients
for
the
the
homeless
shelters
themselves.
In
the.
O
And
I
I
I'm
sorry,
I
should
also
add
mayor
busy
council
member
beloga
that
this
is
really
where
our
180
days
transition
plan
plays
out,
because
it
is
difficult
to
predict
what
will
happen
but
again,
based
on
information
that
we
have.
We
thought
that
180
days
was
a
reasonable
length
of
time
for
a
transition.
C
If
I,
if
I
could,
mr
mayor
councilmember
one
final
item,
was
there
consideration
of
giving
a
shorter
transition
period
that
could
be
extended?
Let's
say
90
days,
you
know,
without
with
extension
of
being
available.
O
Mayor
bussey,
councilmember
veloga,
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
for
providers
right
now
is
the
predictability
of
this
permitting
process,
and
so
I
think
of
180
days
as
as
someone
else
mentioned
earlier,
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
administratively,
and
I
think
that
that
was
primarily
why
we
we
landed
on
that
number.
O
There's
there's
not
necessarily
any
magic
in
that
number.
Only
that
that's
a
what
we
thought
was
a
reasonable
approach,
given
what
we
know
about
the
current
census
of
individuals
living
in
these
shelters
and
and
then
potential
growth
of
that
number
over
time,
and
then
their
ability
to
affect
other
housing
for
that
population
in
the
winter.
C
And
the
reason
I
ask
that
question
is:
is
in
the
restaurant,
with
the
outdoor
seating,
we
made
that
a
reasonably
short
fuse
and
renewed
it
several
times,
and
that
seems
to
have
been
rather
seamless
for
those
facilities.
So
I
would
you
know,
like
a
little
more
conversation
amongst
council
when
it's
appropriate
time
to
see
if
we
think
that
we
should
use
a
similar
set
of
criteria
for
this
resolution,
as
we
did
for
our
restauranteers.
O
N
Sure
marabusi
councilmember
beloga-
these
are
very
similar
approaches.
We
have
not
done
any
revocations
on
the
patio
or
or
outdoor
seating
approvals,
and
I
think
if
there
were
problems,
the
enforcement
would
be
very
similar
between
the
two.
A
Right,
thank
you.
I
do
have
a
follow-up
to
one
of
councilmember
below's
points
when
asking.
If,
regarding
a
cap
on
this,
so
does
this
resolution
give
us
the
power
the
ability,
if,
if
at
any
time
we
wanted
to
say
okay,
that
that's
enough,
can
we
say
that's
enough
or
as
long
as
hotels
meet
these
requirements,
could
they
continue
to
turn
over
into
pandemic
housing.
O
Mayor
bossie,
council
members,
my
understanding
is
that
you
could
revoke
this.
It
is
a
resolution.
It
also
has
the
power
to
revoke
it.
I
have
to
defer,
though,
on
this
issue,
to
our
to
our
attorney
and
community
development,
megan
rogers.
A
Well-
and
I
want
to
clarify-
I
don't
necessarily
revoke,
but
if,
for
example,
25
of
our
47
hotels
qualify
if
we
got
you
know
if,
if
15
of
those
hotels
were
converted
to
pandemic
housing-
and
we
got
to
a
point
where
we've
decided-
that's
probably
enough-
we've
got
to
balance
some
other
things
within
the
city.
Could
we
simply
turn
this
off
and
say
we
don't
we
we
can't
have
any
more.
We
don't
want
any
more
at
this
time.
Is
that
possible?
A
B
Thank
you
mayor.
I
didn't
have
any
questions
mostly
just
some
comments,
but
I
so
I
don't
want
to
step
in
front
of
anybody
if
there
are
other
folks
with
additional
questions.
B
Thank
you
just
sort
of
a
few
thoughts
and
and
the
first
one
is
more
just
a
a
clarification
on
a
question
that
that
you
asked
mr
mayor
and
a
response
that
I
I
that
ms
worthington
gave
that
I
thought
was
good,
but
may
have
just
thrown
some
folks
off
and
while
obviously
you
know
the,
I
think
her
answer
on
how
this
prepares
us
for
the
next
pandemic
is
a
good
one,
just
to
be
extremely
clear
for
folks
who
have
not
actually
read
the
language
of
the
resolution.
B
This
particular
resolution
would
expire
with
the
gov
with
when
the
governor
were
to
cease
the
peace,
the
declaration
of
peace,
time
emergency.
So
this
this
is.
This
resolution
is
specific
to
this
coping
19
pandemic,
as
it
as
it
currently
is
just
to
sort
of
be
extra
clear
on
that,
and
the
other
comment
I
wanted
to
make
is
just
in
terms
of
the
180
day
transition
period.
I
I
do
think
that
is
a
a
reasonable
number
to
go
with.
B
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
things
we've
seen
with
the
work
that
we've
done
on
affordable
housing.
Is
that
even
folks
who
are
able
to
afford
rent,
you
know
when
they
find
out
that,
for
example,
their
lease
is
not
going
to
be
renewed
more
often
than
not,
it
takes
them
at
least
90
days
to
find
new
housing
to
say
nothing
of
folks
who
are
not
able
to
afford
grant
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
B
So
you
know,
I
just
think,
with
with
the
way
things
are
right
now,
it's
I
think
better
for
us
to
to
be
sort
of
on
the
longer
end
of
that
equation,
rather
than
have
to
authorize
you
know,
extensions
being
on
the
shorter
end,.
L
Yeah
I
I
when
I
saw
the
180
days.
The
first
thing
that
came
to
my
mind
was
our
affordable
housing
piece.
But
I
am.
I
do
think
that
we
ought
to
keep
what
councilmember
baloga
has
put
forward
in
the
tool
box
for
for
for
the
future,
because
I
think
that
there
may
be
a
reason
why
we
may
want
to
do
that,
and
it
may
be
tied
to
what
you
brought
forward
mayor
in
terms.
If
we
get
to
you
know
so
many
locations
that
have
it.
L
We
may
want
to
have
a
different
transitional
time
frame
on
that.
But
at
this
point
I
think
that
that
number
is
the
right
number,
but
I
I
wouldn't
mind
putting
that
in
the
toolbox
for
us
to
utilize
that
going
in
the
future,
because
just
never
know
when
you
might
need
to
use
something
like
that.
A
A
Not
hearing
unless
there
is
anything
overwhelming
that
folks
think
we
need
to
make
adjustments
to
that
180
days.
I've
heard
a
couple
of
people
spoke
in
speak
in
favor
of
it
beyond
to
council
member
buloga's
questions.
Does
anybody
have
anything
else?
Otherwise
I
think
we
leave
it
in
and
we
move
forward
with
it,
but,
as
councilmember
lohman
said,
keep
it
in
our
toolbox
and
consideration.
A
F
Us
mary,
I
can
make
that
motion.
F
K
A
A
B
A
Aye
motion
carries
7-0.
I
want
to
thank
the
the
planning
commission
for
the
great
work
that
they
did
on
this.
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
everything
they've
put
together
and
council
for
the
great
discussion.
I
think
this
was
a
very
good
discussion
and
very
thoughtful,
and
I
think
it
it
does
move
us
forward
now,
but
it
also
puts
some
good
pieces
in
place
if
we
ever
have
to
look
at
this
again-
and
I
think
that's
an
important
thing
to
do
so.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
that.
Well
done
thanks.
A
With
that,
I'd
like
to
call
item
8.1
on
our
agenda
and
8.1
is,
is
a
discussion
item
actually
on
the
earn,
sick
and
safe
leave
ordinance
that
the
council
has
asked
staff
to
look
at
and
provide
some
direction
on.
So,
as
I
said,
discussion
item
we're
just
going
to
be
providing
direction.
Feedback
no
formal
action
on
this
tonight,
but
staff
will
be
bringing
this
forward
and
mr
verbruge.
H
H
We
also
have
deputy
city
attorney
peter
zinega
and
our
racial
equity
coordinator,
faith
jackson
on
the
line,
if
you
have
questions
of
them
as
well,
the
four
of
us
have
been
acting
as
a
research
team
for
this
project
for
the
benefit
of
the
viewers.
The
council's
direction
last
year
was
to
have
staff
begin,
exploring
the
development
of
an
urn,
sick
and
safe
leave,
ordinance
for
the
council's
consideration
in
minnesota's
in
minnesota.
H
H
So
we
have,
as
part
of
our
research
talk
to
representatives
of
cities
that
have
local
ordinances
and
chris
has
prepared
a
side
by
side
of
those
ordinances
that
she
will
walk
through
for
you
and
after
walking.
Through
that
and
answering
any
questions,
you
may
have
we'll
come
back
and
talk
about
a
possible
process
to
move
forward,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
in
the
packet
for
council
members
which
you
saw
in
preparing
for
the
meeting
to
help
guide
the
discussion
tonight.
H
So
with
that
quick
overview,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
chris
wilson,
our
assistant
city
manager,.
I
Secondly,
would
be
for
an
absence
due
to
domestic
abuse,
sexual
assault
or
stalking
again
for
the
employee
or
their
family
member.
This
would
include
attending
legal
proceedings
meeting
with
law
enforcement
seeking
counseling,
etc,
and
then
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
they
have
a
third
component
to
their
ordinances
and
that
is
to
care
for
a
family
member
during
an
emergency
closure
of
a
school
or
child
care,
including
for
inclement
weather,
so
sort
of
a
snow
day
provision,
that's
just
as
best
I
can
tell
in
the
minneapolis
ordinance.
I
I
It
should
be
noted,
as
we
talk
about
these
ordinances,
that
in
all
three
cities
the
ordinances
establish
a
minimum
requirement.
Employers
of
course,
are
free
to
grant
more
generous
leave
than
what
is
required
by
these
ordinances
to
allow
employees
to
use
it
earlier
in
their
employment
to
allow
more
carryover
to
pay
it
out
upon
separation.
I
The
definition
of
which
employers
their
ordinance
applies
to
does
vary
a
bit
between
the
three
minnesota
cities.
Minneapolis
requires
employers
with
six
or
more
employees
to
provide
paid
leave
and
requires
employers
with
fewer
than
six
employees
to
still
allow
the
leave,
but
it
may
be
unpaid
in
saint
paul.
It
applies
to
all
employers,
regardless
of
the
number
of
employees
they
have,
but
it
is
restricted
to
employers
that
have
a
physical
location
in
the
city
of
saint
paul.
Minneapolis
is
not
the
case
that
the
employer
has
to
be
located
in
the
city
of
minneapolis.
I
Another
note
on
this
is
that
these
ordinances
may
already
be
met
by
existing
paid
leave
benefits
provided
by
an
employer.
So
employers
are
not
required
to
add
a
specific.
You
know.
Ordinance
based,
sick
and
safe
leave
benefit
for
their
employees
if
they
already
have
benefit
programs
that
can
be
used
for
these
reasons
and
provide
a
sufficient
amount
of
leave
time
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
ordinance.
I
A
quick
take
at
the
process
used
in
the
three
cities-
all
cities
report
to
us
that
they
use
some
form
of
task
force
or
work
group
and
met.
Those
groups
met
over
the
course
of
several
months.
In
saint
paul.
It
was
29
people
over
the
course
of
three
months
in
duluth.
It
was
a
smaller
task
force
of
11
members,
but
they
met
for
slightly
longer
and
so
on.
I
You
can
see
that
the
time
between
adoption
of
the
ordinance
and
its
effective
date
varied
by
jurisdictions,
with
at
least
nine
months,
nine
or
ten
months,
and
as
much
as
18
months
between
adoption
and
effectiveness.
I
And
then
my
last
slide
here
is
just
a
quick
summary
of
the
major
components
of
an
ordinance
where
the
city
to
proceed
with
developing
one.
The
city
would
need
to
decide
which
employees
are
going
to
be
covered,
which
employers
are
going
to
have
to
provide
leave
under
the
ordinance.
What
the
amount
of
the
benefit
is,
what
the
rules
about
using
it
accumulating
leave
carrying
over
leave
the
city
would
have
to
determine
an
enforcement
process
for
the
ordinance,
as
well
as
staffing
for
both
implementation
and
enforcement,
cities
of
minneapolis
and
st
paul.
I
I
Duluth
is
a
smaller
operation
and
they
have
added
one
dedicated
staff
person
for
enforcement
in
the
city
of
duluth.
So,
like
I
said,
there
is
a
slightly
more
detailed
summary
or
comparison
of
the
three
ordinances
in
your
packet
that
gets
into
things
like
how
much
can
an
employee
accumulate
in
each
city
and
how
much
carries
over
from
one
year
to
the
next
and
so
on
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
about
those
next
level
of
detail.
A
H
Babrugi,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
council
members,
as
the
team
thought
about
how
to
proceed
on
this.
We
thought
about
two
different
tracks
that
we
could
take,
and
this
really
gets
at
the
direction
we're
looking
for
from
council
this
evening.
H
The
first
is
to
have
a
task
force
or
a
working
group,
as
you
saw
from
chris
presentation,
the
saint
paul
and
duluth
both
had
a
working
group
of
varying
size,
and
we
know
that
we
do
have
quite
a
healthy
number
of
prospective
stakeholders
and
interested
parties
in
bloomington,
and
so
the
idea
of
having
a
working
group
on
this
is
to
make
sure
that
the
the
stakeholders
are
represented,
as
participants
in
the
process
to
prepare
a
report
to
city
council
with
either
options
or
recommendations
which
would
be
information
we'd,
be
interested
in
learning
tonight.
H
That
would
lay
out
the
schedule
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
as
well
as
clarifying
what
the
charge
would
be
to
the
working
group.
One
of
the
lessons
that
we
learned
utilizing
the
project
management
approach
with
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
was
how
how
fundamental
and
important
it
was
to
have
that
charge
be
very
clear
to
the
working
group
so
that
if
there
are
questions
that
come
up
through
the
process
about
what
is
expected
of
them,
that
it's
known
from
the
outset.
H
What
the
what
the
council's
expectations
are
also
in
the
project
scoping,
would
be
the
the
selection
of
working
group
members
and
identifying
who
the
stakeholders
are,
as
well
as
the
the
expert
lens
components
related
to
communications
and
community
engagement
and
racial
equity,
so
that
we
identify
in
the
front
end
what
the
expectations
and
timeline
will
be
for
communicating
with
the
community
and
the
stakeholders
at
various
points
in
the
process
and
then
we'd,
look
at
commissioning
the
group
in
april
and
getting
to
work
may
through
october,
with
the
with
the
working
group
walking
through
those
items
of
six,
the
six
items
that
chris
detailed
in
her
part
of
the
presentation
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
year,
bringing
the
report
back
to
the
council
for
consideration
and
possible
action.
H
The
second
track
would
be
a
staff
and
council
involved
process
that
would
not
for
forego
public
input.
H
So
the
direction
from
council,
if
you
were
to
go
down
this
track,
is
that,
yes,
we
want
to
see
an
ordinance
prepared
that
we
can
respond
to
and
decide.
Then,
if
it's
appropriate
to
put
it
out
and-
and
we
would
have
the
the
language
of
the
ordinance
as
a
step
in
the
process
for
community
engagement
to
get
feedback
on
it
as
well,
and
so
we've
laid
out
in
the
packet
the
potential
timeline
associated
with
the
staff
and
council
process
and
in
this
one.
H
What
we
would
want
to
do
is
set
aside
time,
at
least
once
a
month,
at
a
council
meeting
to
walk
through
the
various
elements
of
policy
that
we
need
the
council
to
give
direction
on
as
we're
doing
that,
and
so
we'd
have
to
start
really
by
focusing
on
the
data
understanding
exactly
to
the
best
that
we
can,
what
the
condition
is
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
You
know
how
many
employers
there
are,
how
many
employers
are
or
are
not
providing
these
types
of
benefits
to
employees.
H
That
would
obviously
depend
on
surveying
our
bloomington
businesses,
and
then
the
data
would
only
be
as
good
as
what
information
we
get
back.
Obviously,
that's
going
to
be
the
case,
no
matter
what
then
talking
about
the
program
detail
options?
You
know
how
many,
how
many
hours
an
employee
has
to
work,
how
large
the
organization
or
how
small
the
organization,
those
types
of
questions
we
would
want
to
have
the
equity
impact
analysis
and
then
start
talking
about
the
enforcement
philosophy,
as
well
as
the
staffing
and
resources
to
support
it.
If
we
were
to
go
forward.
H
So
we
have
a
couple
questions
here
that
we
would
certainly
appreciate
some
thoughts
from
the
council
and-
and
those
are
these-
you
know
number
given
the
number
of
stakeholders
in
this
decision.
H
What
is
the
level
of
engagement
that
the
council
would
like
to
see
amongst
the
stakeholders,
and
so
that's
ranging
from
inform,
where
we
just
provide
as
constant
communication
as
we
can
to
update
folks
where
we're
at
in
the
process
consult
involve
collaborate,
empower
if
it's
in
power?
That's
really
the
shared
decision
making
the
involve
would
be
the
working
group
approach
and
I
think
the
collaborate
is
really
making
clear
that
the
working
group
has
a
significant
amount
of
flexibility
and
latitude
and
developing
the
options.
H
Then
the
the
council
process,
which
of
the
two
or,
if
there's
a
third
that
council,
would
identify,
and
then
we've
identified
a
number
of
issues
that
we
think
need
to
be
considered
as
part
of
the
policy,
research
and
development,
but
are
certainly
open
to
suggestions
from
the
council.
If
there's
additional
information
that
you
think
is
necessary
for
us
to
pursue,
as
we
get
you
the
information,
you
need
to
make
a
decision
I'll
stop
there.
A
Thank
you,
mr
verbrugge
laid
out
the
questions
nicely.
I
think
we
will
get
to
those
eventually,
but
I'm
assuming
that
the
council
has
additional
questions.
Looking
for
more
information
council,
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
see
whose
hand
went
up
first,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
in
order
that
I
see
you
here
and
I'm
going
to
go
with
council
member
coulter,
council
member
martin
and
then
council
member
nelson
house,
member
colter.
B
Thank
you
mary.
Well
again,
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
I
necessarily
have
any
questions
at
the
moment,
but
I
I
thought
I
saw
council
members,
martin
and
nelson
raise
their
hands
earlier,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
if
they
had
questions
for
ms
wilson
or
what,
but
if
folks
have
questions
I
can,
I
will
defer
for
the
time
being.
F
Thank
you
mark
yeah,
just
two
quick
ones,
kind
of
touching
on
some
things
that
have
come
up
in
previous
times.
We
discussed
this.
I
guess
first,
I'm
just
wondering
about
when
we
had
discussed
this
kind
of
earlier
in
the
pandemic,
we
had
expressed
just
a
hesitancy
around
capability
for
folks
to
be
able
to
participate
in
an
effort
like
this,
especially
in
our
business
communities,
as
they
were,
trying
to
kind
of
adjust
operations
and
and
keep
things
moving
forward.
Have.
H
So
you
know
I,
I
think
the
the
way
that
we
have
tried
to
do
virtual
engagement
over
the
last
year
suggests
that
we
should
be
able
to
run
an
engagement
process,
that's
meaningful
and
gives
people
an
opportunity
to
the
to
the
point
of
your
question,
though,
about
the
the
business
community's
capacity
to
participate.
I
I
can't
answer
that
question
specifically.
F
Sure
and
just
kind
of
other
quick
one
than
this
is
this
is
likely
still
tbd,
but
considering
the
fact
that
this
has
moved
forward
in
minneapolis
and
st
paul
close
here
and
they
came
to
fairly
similar
results
when
recruiting
this
working
group.
Are
we
preferring
organizations,
or
maybe
businesses
that
participated
in
those
efforts
and
maybe
have
the
background
and
a
lot
of
that
homework
done
or
are
we
looking
for
fresh
voices
or
is
that
all
kind
of
still
up
in
the
air.
H
Mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council,
member
martin,
I
think
that
is
up
in
the
air.
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
the
council
directs
staff
on
one
of
these
two
processes
to
identify
critical
sectors
that
you
would
like
to
see
included
or
represented
in
the
process,
and
I
you
know
there
are
a
couple.
Obviously
that
are
prominent
here
in
the
city
are
entertainment,
hospitality
and
leisure.
Leisure
industries
are
fairly
sizable.
We
also
have
you
know
some
very
large
corporate
tenants.
H
H
Large
corporate
entities
already
have
a
package
of
benefits
for
employees
and
so
trying
to
understand
which
sectors
have
the
employers
that
perhaps
don't
already
have
some
sort
of
benefit
package
for
employees
to
make
sure
that
their
voices
included
will
be
important,
and
so,
as
we
bring
back
the
prospective
participants,
whether
it's
through
the
working
group
approach
or
through
the
engagement
targets
in
a
staff
council
approach.
We're
going
to
do
our
very
best
to
identify
who
those
especially
interested
stakeholders
are.
P
Thank
you
mayor
and
I
don't
want
to
get
too
deep
in
the
weeds
on
the
actual
ordinance
here,
so
I
will
do
my
best
to
avoid
that.
I
know
that's
coming
you're
more
curious
at
this
point
in
terms
of
the
process,
but
the
question
I
had
was,
I
know,
there's
been
litigation
on
this
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
know
the
status
of
the
litigation
if
it's
all
been
resolved
and
how
it
was
resolved.
I
Mr
mayor
and
council
member
nelson,
the
litigation
has
been
resolved
to
the
minneapolis
ordinance
made
its
way
all
the
way
to
the
minnesota
supreme
court
and
they
ruled
last
summer,
either
june
or
july,
in
upholding
the
ordinance
in
the
city
of
minneapolis.
So
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
there
is
no
pending
legal
challenges
to
the
three
ordinances
currently
in
place
in
minnesota.
P
Okay
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
put
these
all
in
one
group,
and
I
don't
need
an
answer-
they're
just
things
that
I
I
think
should
be
considered
during
this
is
what
impact
it
has
on
union
contractors
how
it
might
imply
to
independent
contractors
if
at
all
likely
would
not
what
about
prevailing
wage
laws
and
if
people
are
meeting
those.
I
know
those
happen.
A
lot
on
construction,
large
construction
projects,
one
of
the
other
things
I
saw
as
I
was
doing.
P
Some
research
is
looking
at
not
necessarily
sick
time,
but
parents
who
needed
to
take
care
of
children
because
a
school
was
closed
due
to
weather,
probably
difficult
to
expand
that
to
an
entire
pandemic.
Where
schools
closed
for
a
year
and
a
half
but
weather
emergencies
do
happen.
I
know
that's
a
huge
concern
for
a
lot
of
parents.
P
I
know
one
of
the
business
concerns
personally
have
is
just
the
record-keeping
and
whether
or
not
people
are
going
to
get
analyzed
for
records
that
are
pretty
darn
good
but
not
perfect,
and
how
onerous
those
things
are:
the
ability
to
use
flex
time,
particularly
for
maybe
a
part-time
employee,
if
you're
sick
for
a
couple
days,
could
you
make
up
those
hours
later?
Is
it
I
mean?
I
guess
that
I
put
into
the
category
of
flexibility
for
the
businesses
to
meet
the
needs
of
their
employees
and
their
operations
as
best
as
possible.
P
Again,
don't
want
to
get
too
much
into
the
weeds
or
just
some
things
on
the
radar
that
I
think
are
important
in
terms
of
the
question
about
process
that
the
city
manager
asked.
I
guess
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
and
I
guess
the
question
is:
what
role
would
members
of
the
business
community
have,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
not
just
input
that
we're
asking
them
but
they're?
P
Actually,
if
we
go
further
along
that
spectrum,
that
they're
actually
at
the
table
making
these
decisions
to
make
it
work
and
not
just
something
where
they
can
provide
input
into
a
community-led
group.
So.
K
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
have
one
quick
question
for
chris
and
then
I
can
just
share
my
thoughts
in
the
packet.
I
I
believe
it
said
that
duluth
de
luce
ordinance
applies
to
part
and
full-time
employees,
but
I
don't
believe
I
saw
anything
about
minneapolis
or
st
paul.
So
do
you
know
if
there's
also
cover
part
time.
I
K
Great
okay,
so
jamie
to
your
questions,
I
would
feel
most
comfortable
moving
forward
with
a
task
force
approach
which
I'm
guessing
most
of
the
council.
That's
the
path
we
probably
want
to
go
down
and
as
I
look
at
that
spectrum
of
spectrum
of
engagement,
I
guess
I
was
leaning
towards
involve
kind
of
like
right
in
the
middle,
and
I
do.
K
But
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
actual
workers,
residents
and
workers
are
also
at
the
table,
particularly
those
in
positions
where
you
know
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
earn
sick
and
safe
time
or
earn
sick
pay
leave,
and
I
also
would
like
to
see
or
invite
organizations
who
are
serving
people
most
impacted,
like
veep
and
oasis
for
youth
and
cornerstone,
if
they're,
willing
and
able
and
again
fully
support
our
small
and
large
businesses,
the
chamber,
the
visitors
bureau,
and
then
our
union
partners
too.
K
A
B
B
I'm
ready
to
go
now,
thank
you
and
I
I
did
actually
have
one
piece
of
information
that
I
would
like
to
know,
obviously
not
something
that
can
be
answered
tonight.
But
you
know,
as
it
has
been
mentioned,
a
number
of
states
and
other
cities
have
adopted,
earn
sick
and
safe
leave
policies,
and
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
just
sort
of
a
you
know
as
best
as
possible,
a
summary
of
of
the
provisions
of
those
as
well.
B
I
think
you
know
it
never
hurts
to
to
think
as
sort
of
broadly
and
creatively
as
possible.
You
know,
as
as
far
as
my
thought,
you
know
the
reading
through
what
the
the
packet
says
here
in
the
staff's
recommended
approach.
I
think
it
actually,
my
sort
of
preferred
approach
would
be
somewhere.
Some
combination
of
the
two
and
my
my
preference
would
be
that
we
appoint
a
group
of
state
that
we
have
a
sort
of
working
group
or
or
task
force
approach.
B
You
know,
I
think,
as
has
been
said,
it
would
be
more
respectful
of
the
community
of
businesses
and
workers,
and
I
I
think
it
also
would
be
a
much
more
sort
of
public
process
that
would
would
lend
itself
both
to
sort
of
interaction
but
also
legitimacy,
and
I
you
know
to
sort
of
echo
what
councilmember
carter
said.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
hearing
directly
both
from
impacted
businesses
and
impacted
workers,
and
I
mean
I
would
go
so
far.
B
As
you
know,
we
there
is
a
number
of
folks
have
have
raised.
You
know,
business
does
need
to
be
involved,
and
I
I
would
say
that
they
have
to
be
involved
right.
I
don't
think
it
is.
It
is
optional
for
for
businesses,
large
and
small,
for
you
know
all
manner
of
folks
to
be
involved.
I
I
think
they
have
to
be
at
the
table,
and
you
know
the
conversations
that
that
I
have
had
with
folks.
B
Both
you
know,
the
the
folks
with
the
chamber
and
folks
with
individual
businesses
as
well
suggests
a
real,
a
real
desire
to
work
towards
something
that
that
can
work
for
folks,
and
so
I
I
I
think
there
is
a
real
opportunity
here
to
to
bring
folks
in
into
the
process.
B
I
would
just
add
that
I
I
think
I
would
I
would
say
it
should
be
a
requirement
that
folks
who
were
to
serve
on
this
task
force
are
willing
to
get
to
yes
on
an
ordinance,
not
that
every
I
want
to
be
clear
here,
not
that
everybody
has
to
get
to
yes,
but
that
everybody
is
willing
to
get
to.
Yes,
I
think-
and
I
will-
and
that
leads
me
sort
of
to
my
next
point,
which
is
that
I
think
that
the
sort
of
the
the
deliverable
for
this
task
force
should
be
an
ordinance.
B
It
should
be
something
that
staff
can
put
together
that
can
come
before
council
for
an
up
or
down
vote,
and
you
know
there
are
a
couple
of
reasons
for
that.
First
of
all,
I
think
it
it
preserves
it
as
I've
said
before
it
preserves
it
as
a
policy
decision
for
the
council
rather
than
a
decision
for
another
group
of
people.
B
You
know
so
it
comes
before
the
elected
officials,
and
you
know
we
ultimately
make
the
call
I
think
the
other
benefit
to
that
is
that
it.
It
allows
the
folks,
the
stakeholders
that
I
you
know
like
I
said
I
think
absolutely
have
to
be
involved.
It
allows
them
to
weigh
in
in
a
in
a
much
more
sort
of
specific
and
concrete
way
that
you
know
folks
are
are
this.
Is
you
know?
This
is
something
that
we
are
crafting
that
is
going
to
go
before
the
council
so
that
they
can
see.
B
B
You
know,
of
course,
any
ordinance
language
that
comes
for
the
council
can
be
amended
by
the
council,
but
I
I
think
that's
kind
of
where,
where
I'm
at-
and
I
I
think
the
benefit
of
that
stakeholder
approach
is
then
that
it
allows
us
to
also
build
on
that
work
in
the
future.
Knowing
you
know,
we
have
other
conversations
about,
you
know
labor
standards
or
or
something
like
that-
that
other
folks
have
raised,
that
we
have
this
group
of
folks
that
we
can
go
back
to
that.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
strongly
am
in
favor
of
the
task
force
working
group
and
I
think
that's
imperative,
because
I
don't
know
how
we
get
to
look
at
all
sides
without
that
I
certainly
come
with
some
thoughts
and
biases,
but
I
you
know,
I
think
all
of
us
do
by
nature
and
what
we
need
to
do
is
hear
from
people
of
opposing
views.
C
So
I
think,
with
the
right
group
of
people
selected
for
a
task
force
and
working
group,
you
get
that
opportunity
and
I
because
you
want
to
hear
all
points
of
view.
C
I
cannot
support
having
any
set
of
vetting
where
there's
a
predetermined
outcome
or
question
that
people
have
to
answer
in
a
specific
way
to
gain
admittance
to
the
working
group
or
task
force,
because
it
limits
that
we
we
don't
get
the
full
and
complete
conversation
from
all
affected
parties
if
we
have
those
kinds
of
things,
but
with
that
exception
I
agree
with
what's
been
said
earlier
and
support
those
kinds
of
things.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
L
I
guess
the
way
that
I
kind
of
kind
of
look
at
this
is
that
I
look
at
the
problem
first
or
I
mean
it's
not
a
problem,
but
more
of
an
opportunity
shall
I
say,
is
that
we
really
have
a
very
diverse
labor
pool
those
folks
going
to
work
each
day
trying
to
get
their
work
done
in
their
many
different
industries
really
across
the
city
and
on
the
other
hand,
from
the
business
perspective,
we
also
have
a
very
diverse
pool
of
employers,
and
so
when
I
look
at
those
two
things
you
know,
certainly
I
think
that
cbac
model
starts
to
to
get
to
that
to
that
solution,
but
I
think
another.
L
You
know
I
like
to
say
you
you
asked
if
you
could
do
a
hybrid
and
I'll
put
one
forward.
I
think
that,
having
a
having
a
a
dr
johnson
model
person,
I
don't
know
if
that's
jamie
going
out
and
looking
at
the
different
folks.
We
know
that
are
out
there
that
they
can
represent
some
of
these
different
labor
pools
or
these
different
businesses
and
ask
specific
questions
that
may
be
gathered
through
that
see
back
type
process.
L
I
think
might
because
I
think
this
issue
is
such
a
complex
issue.
This
may
give
us
or
afford
us
the
opportunity
to
to
delve
a
little
bit
deeper.
L
So
what
I
would
say
is
that
I
would
support
a
more
hybrid
approach
and
if
the
seaback
was
an
example
of
a
more
empowered
on
that
spectrum,
then
that's
what
I'm
supporting
from
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
making
sure
that
we,
you
know,
consider
our
diverse
labor
pool
that
we
have.
L
I
mean
that's
why
you
do
this
right,
it's
about
the
labor
pool,
and
then
you
know
making
sure
that
we
have
business
interest
there
to
be
sure
that
the
step
that
we
make
with
with
labor
if
we
decide
to
go
down
this
route,
is,
is
not
an
obstacle
to
being
able
to
do
business
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
L
We
want
to
make
sure
that
businesses
are
able
to
to
continue
to
conduct
their
business
in
a
way
that
doesn't
restrict
those
that
are
small
businesses,
and
so
they
can
be
able
to
service
our
our
our
residents
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
when
I
look
at
the
the
options
that
are
here,
that's
those
are
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
see.
If
we
could
move
forward
on
this
on
this
particular
work.
F
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah.
I
agree
with
what's
been
said
in
terms
of
moving
forward
with
the
task
force
process.
I
think
hasn't
been
said.
It's
it's
gets
a
little
bit
blurry
on
that
I
iap2
spectrum,
because
I
would
very
much
like
to
involve
the
public,
especially
leveraging
these
digital
feedback
solicitation
and
submission
tools
that
we
have.
F
I
think
they've
been
put
to
tremendous
use
with
things
like
the
parks
master
planning
process,
but
the
more
opportunities
we
have
to
promote
those
tools,
the
more
familiar
people
get
with
them
and
comfortably
using
them.
This
seems
like
a
great
opportunity,
so
I'd
say
in
terms
of
broad
public
outreach,
definitely
involved,
and
then
obviously
the
task
force
itself
would
be
something
it
seems.
H
F
Collaborate
but
then
also
to
the
point
councilmember
lowman
just
raised,
potentially
using
those
tools,
also
in
a
more
targeted
way,
to
solicit
the
feedback
of
stakeholders
in
a
variety
of
of
industries,
workers,
businesses
of
all
sizes,
but
almost
kind
of
in
an
amicus
brief
way.
So
folks
that
aren't
able
to
directly
participate
on
the
task
force,
but
still
want
to
submit
maybe
detailed
opinions
on
one
side
of
the
other
data
that
they've
seen,
especially
since
has
been
noted.
F
A
My
two
cents
on
this
when
I
and
I
brought
this
up-
I
think
at
one
of
our
previous
meetings-
was
in
relation
to
something
else,
but
this
adds
on
top
of
it.
If
we
look
at
the
community
budget
advisory
committee,
we
look
at
our
strategic
planning
process
that
we're
hoping
to
get
into
looking
at
this.
We
are
going
to
be
hip
deep
in
task
forces
and
work
groups
and
community
engagement.
I
mean
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge.
A
It
really
is
to
to
not
only
not
only
at
the
staff
level
but
at
the
city
level.
As
I
look
at
the
steps
in
the
process
here
and
look
at
the
timing
of
the
of
a
report
to
council
and
council
consideration
and
action
in
november
and
december,
I
mean
that's
that's
right
in
lockstep
with
our
with
our
budget
process
and
it's
it's,
it
would
be
also
well
into
our
strategic
planning
process.
So
my
question
is
from
a
staff
standpoint:
can
we
do
this
from
a
council
standpoint?
A
Can
we
do
this
and
from
a
community
standpoint,
do
we
have
the
the
capacity
and
the
resources
to
take
on
some
sizable
things
all
at
once
like
this
and
come
up
with
a
good
outcome,
a
really
good
outcome,
I
mean
we
could
we
can
probably
get
it
done,
but
I
I
don't
think
these
are
sizable
things.
These
are
important
things
that
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
we
don't
want
to
do
a
crummy
job
on
one.
H
Mr
mayor
and
council
members,
the
reason
that
we
have
what
I
would
say
is
a
rather
protracted
schedule
is,
is
to
make
sure
that
we
can
that
we
can
meet
the
council's
object
objectives
here
and
that's
considering
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
other
things
in
the
pipeline.
H
The
real
you
know.
I
I'm
reluctant
to
give
you
a
hard
and
fast
answer
tonight,
because
we'll
want
to
go
back
and
do
the
project
scoping,
based
on
what
we've
heard
from
the
council
and
when
we
come
back
and
we've
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
our
staff
and
co-ed,
and
our
staff
in
communications,
and
all
of
the
other
folks
who
will
need
to
be
involved
is
to
make
sure
that
these
are
reasonable
expectations
on
their
ability
to
contribute
to
the
process
as
well.
H
You
know,
one
of
the
things
I
maybe
should
have
mentioned
at
the
outset
is
that
we
are
not
starting
from
scratch
in
terms
of
being
able
to
identify,
certainly
employers.
I
think
that
we
probably
have
some
work
to
do
to
identify
interested
parties
among
workers
and
employees,
and
we
have
some
contacts
that
will
help
us
do
that.
H
We're
in,
I
think,
better
position
frankly
to
get
the
information
from
the
business
community
and
the
participation
from
the
business
community
that
we're
looking
for,
because
we
already
have
some
established
relationships
during
the
pandemic.
When
we're
doing
the
small
business
assistance
loan
program
that
we
have
a
good
number
of
business
contacts
that
we
have
through
our
coed
and
our
community
development
team,
we
obviously
have
the
chamber
which
represents
some.
H
You
know
three
four
hundred
businesses
in
the
community
and
we
do
the
the
business
survey
and
so
the
same
mailing
list
that
the
national
research
council
would
have
access
to
to
utilize
to
contact
businesses.
We
could
certainly
use
a
contact
list
like
that
as
well,
so
we,
you
know,
I
think,
we're
in
good
position
to
do
this.
If
the
council
is
willing
to
be
patient
and
let
this
roll
out
throughout
the
whole
year,
but
if
you'll
give
us
the
you
know
the
latitude
to
work
through
that
in
the
project
scoping.
A
And
then
I'd
ask
the
same
question
of
the
counsel.
A
I
mean
we're
we're
a
busy
and
active
group
and
everybody's
got
a
day
job
to
worry
about
and
and
families
to
worry
about
and
other
things,
but
we're
we're
looking
at
three,
you
know
two
or
three
pretty
big
things
that
the
council
would
have
to
be
involved
with
in
on
top
of
everything
else,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that,
as
as
we're
moving
forward
that
this
we're
moving
forward
with
eyes
wide
open
in
terms
of
what
the
expectations
are
going
to
be
and
what
the
the
requirements
are
going
to
be
in
terms
of
council
involvement
and
and
what,
how
you're
going
to
be
involved
and
influencing
this
process.
K
My
understanding
is
the
community
groups
are
still
in
operation
and
that
our
community
engagement,
team
and
faith
are
continuing
to
do
work
with
them,
and
I
almost
wonder
if,
as
we
think
about
workers
impacted
who
may
be
in
part-time
positions
or
positions
where
there's
not
typically
paid
leave,
if
that
would
be,
those
would
be
groups
that
we
could
ask
if
there
are
interested
participants.
B
Thank
you
mayor,
and
I
you
know
I
I
think
you
raise
an
excellent
point
in
terms
of
bandwidth.
You
know
in
terms
of
of
our
abilities
at
council,
but
but
also
you
know
the
the
ability
of
the
community,
and
I
guess
I
would
you
know
I
would
just
say
you
know,
based
on
what
I
have
seen
and
heard,
particularly
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
B
You
know
we
are.
We
are
not
for
want
of
opportunities
for
folks
in
our
community
to
weigh
in
on
the
decisions
that
we
make
as
a
city
council.
I
think
you
know
if
any
message
has
been
made
loud
and
clear
by
any
number
of
folks
over
the
last
few
years.
It's
that
folks
want
these
opportunities
and-
and
you
know
we
may
maybe
we'll
get
to
a
point
where
they
stop
telling
us
that,
but
I
I
would
not
expect
that
anytime
soon,
so
I
I
have
no
concerns
about
moving
forward
with
it.
B
From
that
respect,
I
also
wanted
to
to
clarify
a
little
bit,
because
I
think
council
member
logan
raised
an
excellent
point
that
you
know
my
my
preferred
outcome
of
this
process.
B
Is
you
know
that,
like
I
said
my
preferred
deliverable
is
an
ordinance
or
a
proposed
ordinance,
I
should
say,
or
the
council
to
act
on,
and
I
I
guess
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
that
you
know
what
you
know.
B
If
we
go
forward
with
a
task
force
process
which
I
like,
I
said,
I
think
we
should
that
that
you
know
everyone
involved
is
working
in
good
faith
to
develop
something
that
will
work
for
bloomington
that
that,
ultimately,
whatever
that
product
does
come
before
the
city
council
that
it
if
it's
adopted
it's
something
that
works
well
for
us.
So
I
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
I
I
don't
you
know
folks
shouldn't
have
to
know
you
know
secret
passcodes
and
all
that
to
get
into
the
clubhouse.
But
I
you
know
that's
that's.
B
My
focus
is
just
making
sure
that
that
that
we're
you
know
everybody
is
working
in
good
faith
on
that.
A
To
be
clear,
councilmember
coulter,
you
do
need
a
passcode
to
get
into
the
council
chambers
right
now
and
and
all
the
city
hall
just
so
we're
clear
on
that.
But
I'll
give
you
a
hint,
no
I'll
talk
to
you
later
about
that.
If
you
want
to
get
in
council
any
additional,
I
think
this
is
great
feedback.
Additional
council
member
baloga.
C
C
Part
of
it
that
we
always
seem
to
lack
is,
is
what
does
it
take
on
the
city's
part
if
this
is
enacted
to
administrate
it
you
know,
is
this
a
absorbed
within
a
current
staff,
or
is
this
a
staff
increase
of
x
number
of
people,
because
not
that
we
should
make
our
judgments
on
those
kinds
of
things?
But
what
I
advocate
is
is
that
we're
informed
beforehand,
because
that
that's
an
important
cost
benefit
weighing
of
these
kinds
of
things.
So
again,
no
need
to
respond
to
any
of
that.
Just
food
for
thought.
A
I
couldn't
agree
more
council
member
below,
especially
about
the
in
academia.
I
think
they
would
call
it
a
a
literature
scan
or
a
a
review,
an
academic
review,
something
like
that,
making
sure
that,
yes,
we
have
all
the
information
from
cities
that
have
been
doing
this
for
a
while-
and
I
know
minneapolis
and
st
paul
are
somewhat
recent,
but
other
cities
have.
They
do
have
a
track
record.
That
would
be
worth
following.
So.
H
H
Is
you
know
what
the
anticipated
incident
case
is
likely
going
to
be,
and
so
learning
from
minneapolis,
st
paul
and
duluth
will
be
helpful
as
as
chris
indicated
earlier,
you
know,
minneapolis
has
a
staff
of
four
three
of
them
are
jd's
and
duluth
has
a
staff
of
one.
L
You
know
mayor
your
question,
I
think,
is
a
good
one.
One
of
the
one
of
our
priorities
that
we
talk
about
as
a
council
is
having
high
quality
services
for
our
our
residents.
L
So
what
I
I
think
of
your
question
that
you
asked
in
terms
of
if
we've
got
a
lot
of
these
priorities
that
are
out
there,
that
we're
looking
at
trying
to
do.
You
know
this
included,
you
know
how
what
level
of
quality
are
we
going
to
deliver
to
our
residents
in
the
community
as
we
work
on
each
of
these
projects?
L
I
do
think
it's
possible
to
do
it
and
I
do
think
it's
possible
to
have
us.
You
know
heads
down
working
hard.
You
know
meeting
every
single
monday
throughout
the
rest
of
this
this
year
next
year
into
the
future
in
in
a
way
that
you
know
could
really
burn
us
out
as
policymakers,
and
so
I
I'm
nervous
about
that
meetings
that
go
past
10
o'clock
and
really
late.
Trying
to
you
know
trying
to
really
drive
these
things
in
there.
L
The
alternative
approach
that
I
have
heard
from
the
manager
is-
and
I
think
staff
is
putting
forward-
is
this
empowerment,
piece
of
empowering
folks
to
move
some
of
these
pieces
forward
so
that
when
we
come,
we
could
come
back
and
look
at
this
stuff
later
on
now
that
doesn't
take
the
burden
off
of
staff
in
terms
of
trying
to
deliver
all
these
priorities
and
there's
going
to
be
a
limit
to
that.
But
I
certainly
have
a
concern.
I
don't.
L
I
have
no
doubt
that
we
could
get
all
three
of
these
things
done
or
the
big
long
list
that
you
know
it's
been
sent
to
us,
but
I
I
I
wonder
about
the
quality,
the
quality
of
their
product
and
when
I
say
that
I
think
about
that
affordable
housing
proposal
that
we
brought
forward
and
how
that
was
the
envy
of
of
our
community
and
really
of
the
country
the
work
that
we
did
there
as
we
work
on
each
of
these
initiatives.
L
H
L
That
answers
your
question,
but
I'm
certainly
concerned.
A
A
So
that's
the
goal,
absolutely
let's
go
with
council
member
carter
and
then,
if
we
could
counsel,
if
there's
if
we
can
get
moving
on,
because
we've
got
a
couple
more
things
on
the
agenda
this
evening
yet
and
want
to
make
sure
we
get
there
before
the
hour
gets
too
late.
But
council
member
carter.
K
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
guess
I
have
a
question
for
the
city
manager.
When
you
look
at
that
spectrum
of
engagement,
would
you
say
that
there
is?
K
Is
it
more
intense
in
term
of
in
terms
of
staff,
time
and
resources
as
you
go
further
down
the
spectrum,
because
in
my
mind
I
was
thinking
we'd
be
right
in
the
middle
kind
of
in
the
inform
understanding.
We've
got
a
lot
on
our
plate,
we're
still
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on,
but
also
feeling
pretty
strongly
that
this
is
important.
K
This
is
important
work
to
do
and
conversations
to
be
had
and
so
trying
to
balance
kind
of
the
staff
time
and
capacity,
and
the
things
that
we're
working
on
with
the
need
to
do
is
because
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
doing
it
in
a
way
that
engages
our
community
members
and
our
business
community.
So.
G
H
Mr
mayor
and
council
members
council
member
carter,
that's
that's
a
really
good
question.
I
would
say
that
the
my
inclination
is
to
believe
that
the
number
of
staff
and
the
extent
of
their
involvement
is
going
to
increase
the
more
that
you
move
to
the
right
side
of
the
spectrum.
The
closer
that
you
get
to
empower
is
going
to,
I
think,
require
some
really
committed
work
by
a
greater
number
of
people.
H
I
think
the
input
approach
is
is
probably
going
to
be
less
intensive,
just
because
we
will
spend
less
time
in
in,
in
actual
conversation
and
deliberative
process
working
collaboratively
with
people
and
the
more
the
more
that
we
lean
to
the
right
side,
the
more
time
we're
going
to
spend
in
that
working
mode
and
that
just
is
going
to
take
more
hours
by
more
people.
K
Okay,
that
is
helpful.
I
guess
I
would.
I
would
stick
with
my
original
preference
of
being
in
kind
of
the
middle
of
that
spectrum.
I'm
considering
the
intensity
as
we
go
along
it
and,
and
part
of
the
reason
is
because
we
do
have
three
cities
in
minnesota
that
have
passed
ordinances
that
are
actually
pretty
similar
across
the
cities.
K
I
mean
there
are
some
differences,
but
we
have
models
to
go
off
of
and
when
I
think
about
the
work
that
dr
johnson
did
in
opportunity,
housing
ordinance
and
the
90-day
attendant
protection
ordinance,
I
mean
I
felt
like
that
was
like
we
were
doing
something
different.
It
was
like
you
know.
I
just
felt
like
it
was
kind
of
like
a
whole
different
type
of
issue
that
we
were
dealing
with,
but
I
think
with
paid
sick
and
safe
time
or
earned
sick
and
safe
time.
K
We
have
some
good
models
and
we
have
some
data
from
those
specific
types
policies
that
we
can
be
looking
at.
If
we
passed
a
whole
different
kind
of
policy,
we
couldn't
even
necessarily,
I
would
assume
that
comparing
data
wouldn't
be
apples
to
apples
either.
So
I
don't
know
those
are
that's
kind
of
my
thoughts
right
now.
P
Mayor,
I
just
have
one
follow-up:
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
role
of
the
community
and
various
groups
and
all
that
and
just
want
to
follow
up
on
what
the
city
manager
just
said
in
terms
of
the
involvement
of
staff,
and
I
think,
one
of
the
things
that
was
really
successful
with
the
opportunity
housing
ordinances.
There
was
a
point
person
on
staff.
There
was
someone
who
had
responsibility
and
I
think
for
any
major
type
of
project.
P
That's
absolutely
critical
is
that
somebody
owns
the
project
and
you
know
is
able
to
shepherd
it
through
to
completion,
and
you
know
I
don't
need
a
name
of
anybody,
but
just
you
know
any
feedback
in
terms
of
what
the
city
manager
is
thinking
in
terms
of
staffing,
to
make
sure
that
this
gets
done
gets
done
professionally.
Someone
else
made
the
comment
of
you
know.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing,
I
think
those
come
from
overwhelm
and
make
sure
that
we're
looked
upon
as
having
done
a
really
high
quality
job
on
this.
P
I
also
think
it's
important
that
we
do
have
models
and
and
that's
absolutely
critical
to
look
at,
but
maybe
something
comes
out
of
this
process.
That's
different
and
unique,
and
because
bloomington
does
things
differently
and
and
frankly,
in
a
lot
of
ways
better
than
in
places,
and
so,
let's
you
know,
make
sure
we
look
at
that
that
staff
person
and
who
the
right
person
to
really
drive
this
is,
I
don't
know
if
that
was
a
question
or
a
lengthy
comment.
So
sorry.
H
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
member
nelson
council
members.
When
we
bring
back
the
project
scoping,
there
will
be
a
clearly
defined
project
lead
on
this,
similar
to
how
the
sea
back
cary
carlson
our
budget
manager,
and
I
were
the
co-co-owners
of
the
project
we'll
have
somebody
designated
in
that
role
for
this
as
well.
A
I
don't
see
any
hands
up,
so
thanks
for
the
conversation,
I
think
this
is
an
interesting
start
to
this
and
look
forward
to
our
next
update
as
we
sculpt
this
out
and
figure
out
where
we're
gonna
be
going
and
look
forward
to
hearing
that
in
march.
Thank
you
much.
Q
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
As
mayor
busty
mentioned,
I'm
joined
by
our
sustainability
coordinator
emma
stralis,
and
we're
here
to
provide
a
a
quick
update
and
summary
of
our
2020
accomplishments
and
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
commission's
proposed
2021
work
plan.
Q
Expertise.
Next
slide,
please
in
terms
of
2020
accomplishments
in
the
packet.
There
is
a
list
of
completed
2020
initiatives,
as
well
as
a
list
of
initiatives
that
are
still
in
progress.
All
told
we
have
made
great
strides
in
2020
and
and
the
following
are
some
of
the
accomplishments
that
we
are
most
proud
of.
As
you
can
see
on
the
screen
there,
we
achieved
the
city
of
bloom
to
achieve
green
step
cities
level.
Q
Four,
we
achieved
step
four
by
taking
specific
ability,
actions
and
by
implementing
city
and
municipal
sustainability
performance
metrics
to
achieve
step
five,
which
is
the
highest
level.
A
city
must
demonstrate
improvement
in
five
of
the
performance
metrics
adopted
in
step
four,
so
in
2021
we'll
be
working
towards
joining
the
other
19
cities
that
have
achieved
green
steps,
cities,
level,
five
next
slide
or
no
sorry,
early
birthday
celebration
2020
was
the
50th
anniversary
of
the
annual
earth
day
event.
Q
As
we
have
done
the
last
couple
of
years,
we
co-hosted
an
earth
day
celebration
with
the
bloomington
chapter
of
the
league
of
women
voters.
However,
because
of
colvin
we
were
forced
to
hold
an
online
event
and
not
until
I
went
the
april.
However,
more
than
40
bloomington
residents
showed
up
for
the
event
and
each
participant
committed
to
a
specific
sustainability
action,
parker's
picnic
ground
as
part
of
ecological
and
stewardship
focus.
We
continued
the
implementation
of
the
grant,
funded
parker's
picnic,
ground
restoration
project
in
energy.
Q
Q
And
finally,
solid
waste,
despite
the
challenges
of
kobe,
were
able
to
continue
organics
recycling
education
outreach
and
continue
to
see
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
organics
being
dropped
off
next
slide.
Please
so
that's
that
was
a
summary
of
last
year.
So
what
about
this
year?
The
the
ordinance
that
established?
Q
The
commission
mentions
five
areas
of
focus,
including
error,
water,
energy,
land
and
ecological
resources
and
waste,
as
the
commission
has
matured,
we
have
further
refined
these
areas.
Q
We
find
these
into
the
areas
of
carbon,
slash,
climate
change,
surface
and
groundwater,
solid
waste
and
ecological
land
stewardship,
and
this
year
we
will
also
be
including
including
environmental
justice,
as
well
as
transportation,
as
it
is
the
largest
emitter
of
greenhouse
gases.
Q
So,
as
as
our
understanding
of
our
overall
mission
continues
to
mature,
it
may
make
sense
to
adjust
the
governing
order
and
to
show
that
there's
happens
next
slide.
Please
so
2021
work
plan
most
excited.
What
are
we
most
excited
about?
So
all
of
the
items
in
our
work
plan
are
important,
but
there
are
some
that
really
we
really
get
excited
about
so
for
2021.
Q
We're
really
excited
about
the
following:
a
partnership
with
the
parks
group
that
would
include
creating
a
natural
resources
chapter
for
the
upcoming
10-year
parks
systems,
master
plan
and,
in
addition
to
that,
creating
an
overall
natural
resources,
master
plan
and
thirdly,
initiating
at
least
one
more
natural
resource
restoration
project.
In
addition
to
determination,
you
know
the
parker's
picnic
ground
project.
A
See
tim
tim,
can
I
interrupt
for
just
a
second
tim?
Yes,
you're
kind
of
cutting
in
and
out
you're
breaking
it
up.
Perhaps
if
you
turned
off
your
camera,
while
you're
while
you're
presenting,
I
think
we
might
have
a
little
more
bandwidth
to
get
your
presentation
because
you're
cutting
it
on
on
us
a
little
bit.
Q
Q
Will
we'll
discuss
in
more
detail
in
a
moment
also
excel
about
ensuring
that
environmental
justice
is
a
critical
component
of
all
the
commission's
work
and
recommending
specific
next
steps
for
environmental
justice,
justice
efforts
within
bloomington
and
also
creating
plans
for
a
sustainable
alternative
for
curbside
for
the
curbside
cleanup
program
and
a
rollout
of
a
residential
curbside,
organics
pickup,
both
of
which
we
hope
to
see
implemented
in
2022
and
finally,
continuing
the
irrigation
water
conservation
program,
focusing
primarily
on
town
home
associations.
Q
Q
Perhaps
the
greatest
compliment
that
a
commissioner
can
bestow
on
staff.
Is
you
made
us
look
good
as
a
commission
as
as
a
commission,
we
can
speak
to
our
2020
accomplishments
and
what
we
plan
to
accomplish
this
year.
However,
I
think
we
all
know
that
past
and
future
accomplishments
are
primarily
due
to
the
hard
work
and
guidance
from
the
staff.
Q
So,
on
behalf
of
the
sustainability
commission,
I
want
to
thank
bloomington
staff,
and
especially
deputy
director,
bialys
and
coordinator
struss,
for
the
support,
guidance
and
hard
work
and
especially
for
making
us
look
good
and
with
that
coordinator,
stress
and
I
are
happy
to
answer,
questions
and
concerns
about
our
2020
accomplishments,
as
well
as
the
proposed
2021.
Q
A
Thank
you,
chair
sandra
and
mrs
thanks
for
your
work
as
well.
Yes,
you,
you
have
made
them
look
good
and
it's
an
outstanding
group
and
to
make
them
look
better.
Is
it's
a
big
lift
and
you've
done
just
that?
So
thank
you.
So
very
much
for
that.
Well
done
appreciate
that
council
any
questions.
A
Chris,
I
don't
know
that
I
can
see
the
entire
screen
here.
Councilmember
nelson.
P
Yeah
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
tim.
As
always
great
presentation
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
and
your
committee
and
staff
are
doing
on
this.
P
Just
a
quick
item
in
your
written
work
plan,
there's
an
item
sustainable
building
and
site
design,
ordinance
research,
and
it
says
which
I
think
we're
gonna
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
later,
but
it
says
for
future
building
development,
and
the
only
thing
that
that
I
want
to
ask
and
or
question
is
the
the
reality
that
most
of
the
energy
is
used
by
our
existing
built
environment
and
what
are
we
doing
there
to
improve
the
performance
of
homes?
I
know
we
have
some
audits.
P
I
know
you
have
some
other
ideas
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
later
today.
I
just
think
when
we
look
at
the
ability
to
get
our
arms
around
this
issue,
we
have
to
address
the
existing
usage
of
of
homes,
businesses,
cars,
things
of
that
nature,
not
just
future
development,
so
that
that's
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
question,
it's
more
of
a
comment.
I
guess
that's
a
pattern
for
me
tonight.
My
apologies.
Q
Yeah,
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more.
I
think
the
the
bulk
of
our
effort
will
be
focused
on
existing
existing
homes
and
businesses.
We're
you
know
going
to
talk
about
some
policy
things
in
just
a
moment
to
to
kind
of
emphasize
that.
But
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
make
sure
that.
Q
We
can
do
better
on
the
new
building
construction
to
increase
that
efficiency
a
bit
more
than
what
is
allowed
by
the
state
building
codes,
and
so
we
would
like
to
see
if
there's
ways
of
doing
that,
so
that
10
years
from
now
we're
not
going
back
to
those
businesses,
those
commercial
buildings,
those
houses
to
say
yeah.
Can
you
do
this
now?
Q
P
Yeah
well,
thank
you
for
that,
because
I
mean,
I
think
we
all
know
that
the
least
expensive
time
to
do
those
things
is
when
the
building
is
built.
Retrofitting
is
more
expensive.
P
You
know,
obviously
the
there's
more
houses
already
there
building's
already
there
than
we'll
build
in
a
year,
but
I
appreciate
that
approach
to
it.
Just
a
quick
follow-up
question
is
in
terms
of
building
code,
what
latitude,
flexibility
and
ability
do
we
have
on
those
things?
I
know
a
lot
of
the
building
code
is
state
mandated
and
there's
some.
P
Q
You're,
absolutely
right,
we
cannot
establish
a
city,
cannot
establish
building
codes
that
are
more
stringent
than
those
than
the
state
codes,
and
so
what
a
number
of
cities
are
doing,
including
the
cities
like
st
paul
and
and
other
cities
is-
and
I'm
going
to
ask
a
coordinator
stress
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
because
she's
looking
at
this
in
detail.
But
what
other
cities
are
doing
is
finding
ways
to
create
incentives
for
builders
to
go
above
and
beyond
the
state
codes
and
there's
a
number
of
ways
of
going
about
that.
Q
And
I
think
I'll
just
ask
coronary
stress
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
because
I
know
that
she's
been
doing
some
research
on
this.
So
so
perhaps
I
mean
you:
can
you
can
talk
a
bit
more
about
that.
D
Thank
you,
commissioner
sandy.
So
so,
mr
mayor
and
councilmember
nelson,
what
we've
been
looking
into
the
saint
paul
model,
as
commissioner
sandrine
mentioned,
is
looking
at
using
city
financing
as
a
mechanism
for
intensivizing
those
improvements,
so
the
city
of
st
paul.
If
you're
using
funds
from
the
hra
or
the
city,
they
require
you
using
a
sustainable
building
model
like
b3
and
sb,
2030
or
leed.
D
So
it's
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
developer,
of
which
sustainable
building
model
that
they
choose.
But
there
are
some
requirements
that
that
they're
able
to
set
forth
in
that
ordinance.
If
there's
over
200
000
worth
of
funding
used
on
a
project.
D
So
that's
primarily
what
we're
seeing,
but
this
is
something
that
multiple
cities
are
looking
into.
So
with
the
work
plan
this
year
is
working
with
those
cities
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
regional
understanding
and
consistency
as
we're
looking
into
options
for
each
of
our
cities.
P
And
then
my
last
question
I
have
is
just
on
on
funding,
because
you
know
this
commission
works
very
hard,
a
lot
of
volunteers,
it's
great
and
it
is
ambitious
and
it
has
a
very
large
work
plan,
and
I
know
one
of
the
questions
that
I
get
a
lot
is
just
in
terms
of
funding
is
there
and
what
is
being
done
in
terms
of
trying
to
find
grant
funding
or
other
resources
that
can
help?
With
this
I
mean
you
just
talked
about
financing
for
projects
to
increase
the
sustainability.
P
Would
that
be
an
increase
in
our
existing
programs?
Or
would
there
be
other
sources
of
funding
that
we
might
be
able
to
use
to
be
able
to
help
get
those
projects
done
those
types
of
things
or
whether
it
be
natural
resource
cleanup
or
you
know
whatever
the
issue?
Is
that
you're
tackling
it?
It
takes
tremendous
resources
to
do
these
things,
and
how
are
we
trying
to
address
that.
D
So
it
looks
like
potentially
there's
a
cohort
that
we
can
be
using
grant
funding
for,
but
that's
in
the
works,
but
definitely
looking
for
opportunities
for
especially
grant
funding
for
the
planning
processes
of
these
initiatives.
Q
And
I
would.
I
would
also
add
to
that
that
that
there's
other
areas
that
we
look
for
for
grant
money
as
well.
So,
for
example,
restoration
projects,
the
parker's
picnic
ground
was
prime,
is
the
restoration.
There
is
being
primarily
funded
by
an
outside
grant
with
a
bit
of
matching
money
from
from
the
city.
So
we're
always
looking.
You
know
to
do
this
work,
it's
going
to
take
money,
and
so
we're
always
looking
for
opportunities
to
leverage
available
grant
money
to
move
us
along
as
quickly
as
we
can.
F
Thank
you,
mayor,
yeah,
I'll
echo,
the
other
council
members
and
say
thank
you,
the
commission,
for
for
your
work
here
for
the
staff.
That's
supporting
it.
It's
sustainability.
Commission
definitely
sets
a
gold
standard
for
aggressive
action
from
our
boards
and
commissions,
and
that's
appreciated.
F
F
Is
it
anticipated
that
things
like
the
sustainable
building
and
site
standards
and
sustainable
landscaping
standards
are
going
to
provide
some
pretty
firm
guidance
for
those
more
minute
projects
that
we're
going
to
have
pop
up
over
all
over
town,
underneath
the
master
plan
or
a
sustainability
commission
kind
of
picturing,
a
consultative
role
as
those
projects
come
up
moving
forward.
F
Obviously,
in
the
plan
we
have
new
types
of
facilities
and
new
types
of
parks.
Some
new
types,
which
is
all
gonna,
need
a
lot
of
examination.
Q
The
plan
the
assumption
is,
is
that
we
will
that
the
city
will
establish
a
building
code,
whether
it
be
something
like
b3
or
or
something
along
those
lines
that
will
guide
construction
and
and
as
renovations
are
done
for
city
facilities,
and
so
I
so
that,
I
think,
will
you
know,
help
drive
some
of
that
on
the
city
side
and,
in
addition,
as
we're
doing
restoration
projects,
you
know
we'll
also
have.
L
I
couldn't
let
the
moment
pass
without
thanking
our
chair
for
all
the
work
that
he
does
really
in
tandem
with
the
the
staff
to
kind
of
really
drive
this
process
forward.
L
Thanks
for
your
work
that
you
do
with
this,
and
certainly
I
know
that
you
work
with
the
mayor
on
occasion
and
many
other
council
members
and
other
staff,
as
we
kind
of
move
these
priorities
for
the
city
forward,
and
so
again,
thanks
for
your
leadership
since
that
hadn't
been
necessarily
specifically
mentioned-
and
I
know
that
you
had
some
hardship
over
the
past
couple
of
months
here,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
we're
happy
to
see
that
that
you're
kind
of
coming
out
of
that
storm-
and
you
continue
to
even
still
be
dedicated
to
your
your
personal
passion
around
this
particular
issue.
L
And
I
that's
very
much
appreciated
from
one
one.
Commissioner,
one
council
member
to
to
you,
mr
sandra.
K
Thank
you
mayor.
I
also
just
wanted
to
echo
council
member
loman
sentiments
and
say
thank
you
so
much,
commissioner
sandra
for
everything
that
you've
done
over
many
years
for
bloomington
and
for
sustainability
efforts
and
a
huge
thank
you
to
everybody
that
serves
on
the
commission
and
to
city
staff
who
who
obviously
you
know,
live
and
breathe
this
work,
and
so
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
also
just
want
to
say
you
know,
reviewing
the
work
plan
and
seeing
some
of
the
new
additions.
K
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
it's
really
clear
that
you've
been
you
know
paying
attention
to
what
the
council
is
saying,
paying
attention
to
what
residents
are
saying
you
can
see
different,
different
things
incorporated
throughout
the
plan,
and
I
really
appreciate
it
like
natural
resources
and
also
the
changing
of
the
purpose,
to
include
environmental
justice
and
and
just
be
more
explicit
about
climate
change.
So,
thank
you
so
much
and-
and
I
just
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
everyone
involved
is
doing.
A
Council
we've
heard
the
presentation
and
right
now
I'd
look
for
a
motion
to
adopt
the
sustainability
commission's
2021
work
plan.
A
B
A
Motion
carries
7-0.
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
if
you
could
cheer
us
andre
pass
on
our
thanks
to
the
entire
sustainability
commission,
they
do
outstanding
work.
I
think
ultimate
martin
said
it
best
is
they're
the
gold
standard.
You
guys
do
outstanding.
We
really
do
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
your
work
and
for
your
dedication
as
chair
over
the
past.
So
many
years,
your
leadership
has
been
invaluable
thanks.
Much.
Q
Thank
you
thank
you
and
thank
you
consul
for
all
the
support
that
you've
given
us
over
the
last
years
to
make
this
commission
possible
and
providing
us
the
resources
that
we
need
to
really
make
a
difference.
A
Very
good,
thank
you.
Much
kind
of
brings
us
to
item
8.3,
which
is
somewhat
related
here,
which
is
it's
an
entered
discussion
of
an
energy
disclosure
ordinances
for
two
items,
both
one
a
time
of
sale,
energy,
disclosure
and
a
second
piece
would
be
a
large
business
benchmarking
and
miss
dress
is
gonna
stay
with
us
this
evening
to
talk
us
through
this.
Thank
you
much
and
please.
The
floor
is
yours.
D
D
If
you
look
at
how
we're
currently
performing
a
different
visual
than
you've
maybe
seen
before,
but
if
this
is
our
annual
average
natural
gas
savings
as
we're
seeing
on
the
screen,
it
jumps,
we
need
a
2.5
times
increase
to
meet
our
goal.
So
we
need
to
make
a
significant
jump
in
our
average
annual
savings
and
on
the
electricity
side.
If
we're
seeing
our
current
savings
that
we're
seeing
on
average
each
year,
we
need
a
five
times
increase
to
meet
the
savings
and
meet
our
target
of
that
75
reduction.
So
lots
more
to
do.
D
Bloomington,
along
with
other
cities,
are
unfortunately
not
on
track
with
their
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
goals,
and
you
may
have
been
tracking
that
on
a
state
level,
the
past
few
weeks,
a
lot
of
articles
have
come
out.
I'm
talking
about
how
our
state
is
falling
further
and
further
away
from
our
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
goal
and
the
climate
change
sub
cabinet.
D
Had
their
report
come
out
a
few
weeks
ago
showing
that
our
goal
of
2025
of
the
30
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
we
are
at
eight
percent
instead
of
30
and
we
already
missed
our
target
goal
of
a
15
reduction
back
in
2015.
So
there's
work
to
be
done
and
here's
a
graph
just
showing
that
of
our
current
progression
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
of
where
we're
at
and
where
the
next
generation
energy
act.
Projected
goals
are
in
that
gap.
D
So
the
energy
action
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2018
has
two
ordinances
that
we'll
be
talking
about
tonight.
D
We
have
strategy
f
for
on
the
business
side,
looking
at
a
benchmarking,
ordinance
and
participating
in
hennepin,
county's,
efficient,
building
collaborative
and
then
on
the
after
2020
strategies
for
residential
to
look
at
energy
audit
disclosure
as
a
part
of
a
real
estate
transaction
and
with
that
I'll
pass
it
over
to
isaac
smith.
M
So
I
always
like
to
get
started
with
just
kind
of
grounding
people
and
what
is
disclosure,
it's
kind
of
an
abstract
term,
but
it's
around
us
and
it
helps
us,
be
informed
and
make
informed
buying
decisions.
So
really
what
disclosure
is
about
is
about
providing
information
that
may
not
be
readily
apparent
to
a
consumer,
so
they
can
take
that
information
and
make
that
buying
decision.
We
really
saw
this
first
with
nutrition
facts,
so
you're
in
a
grocery
store,
you're.
M
Next,
we
really
saw
with
the
fuel
economy
standard.
So
looking
at
a
car,
it's
hard
to
understand
the
miles
per
gallon,
but
this
label
was
created.
This
information
helped
inform
buyers
and
in
since
increased
the
fuel
economy
of
the
vehicles
that
we
purchased
and
most
recently
we
see
these
little
energy
guides
stickers
on
all
the
appliances
that
we
buy
so
we're
looking
at
refrigerators,
microwaves.
M
Other
things
we
can
look
at
the
energy
use,
our
estimated
energies
for
those
appliances
and
cure
them
when
they
buying
decision
so
an
overview
of
the
two
policies
we're
going
to
talk
about
today.
One
is
time
of
sale,
energy,
disclosure
and
the
other
is
energy.
Benchmarking,
we're
really
just
comparing
the
building
types,
the
mechanism
and
the
impact.
M
So
the
building
types
with
time
of
sales
focused
on
single
family,
one
to
three
unit
homes,
with
benchmarking,
we're
focused
on
the
large
commercial
and
multi-family
buildings,
the
mechanism
for
time
of
sale
disclosure
is
prior
to
the
home
being
listed
for
sale.
That
would
have
the
energy
disclosure
go
in
place
and
then,
with
benchmarking,
it's
an
annual
energy
benchmarking
of
the
performance
of
that
building.
M
On
the
impact
side
for
time
of
sale,
it's
around
1500
homes
per
year,
so
that's
the
average
number
of
homes
sold
in
bloomington
and
with
energy
benchmarking.
It's
around
150
to
300
buildings
that
would
be
benchmarked
each
year,
so
diving
into
the
time
of
sale,
energy
disclosure
policy.
Currently
there
is
a
time
of
sale,
inspection
in
bloomington,
so
prior
to
listing
your
home
for
sale,
you
have
to
have
this
inspection
completed.
M
So
how
that
would
work
on
the
next
slide
is
you'd,
be
collecting
additional
energy
data
during
that
time
of
sale
inspection.
That
data
would
then
be
used
to
generate
an
energy
disclosure
report
and
then
just
follow
those
same
disclosure
guidelines
of
leaving
it
at
open
houses,
reviewing
it
at
the
closing
of
the
home
by
adding
energy
disclosure
to
the
time
sale,
inspection,
really
it's
an
opportunity
for
leveraging
the
existing
city
processes
and
staff.
So
that
allows
for
low-cost
implementation
for
the
city
and
for
home
sellers
we're
not
requiring
a
separate
energy
inspection.
M
So,
diving
a
little
deeper
into
the
energy
data
collection.
We're
really
focused
on
the
four
areas
of
existing
homes
that
you
can
garner
the
most
cost-effective
energy
savings.
So
that's
attic
insulation,
heating
system
windows
and
wall
insulation
and,
as
you
can
see
in
that
first
column,
we're
already
collecting
some
data
data
during
bloomington's
time
of
sale,
inspection
but
we'd
be
adding
these
additional
inputs.
So
there's
eight
inputs
there,
seven
or
eight
inputs
with
attic
insulation,
be
the
insulation
and
type
in
inches.
M
The
heating
system
would
be
looking
at
the
venting
type
in
the
age
for
windows.
We'd
just
be
looking
at.
If
there's
single
pane
windows
present
or
if
they
have
a
storm
lot
and
for
wall
insulation
we'd
be
drilling
a
single
hole
in
an
exterior
wall.
Typically,
this
is
done
in
a
closet
to
evaluate
if
it
has
insulation
in
there
or
not,
and
that
would
be
done
for
homes
built
before
1980.
M
So
what
do
we
do
with
that
data?
Here's
an
example
of
minneapolis
energy
disclosure
report
we'd
be
looking
at
adding
an
energy
score,
which
is
an
easy
way
to
compare
the
energy
performance
of
homes.
It
is
put
on
a
familiar
zero
to
100
scale.
We'd
also
be
highlighting
the
opportunities
for
energy
savings.
We
want
to
make
recommendations.
This
report
prioritizes
the
energy
savings
opportunities
for
each
home.
It
outlines
the
resources
available
to
consumers,
so
that's
energy,
advisors,
utility
rebates,
low
interest,
financing
and
estimates
the
cost
for
making
these
improvements.
M
M
So
our
goals
with
this
policy
are
really
to
create
a
more
informed
market.
We
want
to
make
energy
visible,
it's
not
visible.
Currently,
during
the
transaction
of
a
home,
we
need
to
create
awareness
about
home
energy
performance.
So,
as
coordinator
stress
outlined,
energy
is
a
very
important
part
of
reaching
our
climate
goals
and,
right
now
it's
largely
invisible
people,
don't
think
about
it
a
lot.
So
we
need
to
really
elevate
that
and
make
it
visible.
We
also
need
to
reward
homeowners
that
have
made
these
energy
improvements.
M
The
city
of
bloomington's
done
a
lot
of
work,
we're
trying
to
encourage
and
provide
resources
towards
these
energy
upgrades.
But
when
you
go
to
sell
that
home,
it's
currently
hidden
from
the
market
that
investment
that
you've
made
isn't
visible
and
you
don't
recoup
it
at
that
time.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
visible
at
the
transaction
and
we
want
to
spur
investment
and
energy
improvements,
and
that's
really
what
this
policy
is
aimed
at
doing
by
creating
that
visibility,
highlighting
these
resources
available
to
homeowners
kind
of
laying
that
path
towards
energy
improvement.
M
We
hope
to
spur
investments
in
the
building
stock
in
bloomington.
We
can
do
this
at
a
much
larger
scale
as
well,
so
that
1500
number
that's
five
times
the
number
of
home
energy
squad
or
energy
audits
that
are
happening
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
we're
getting
this
energy
information,
home
energy
performance
data
out
to
a
lot
more
households,
and
then
the
city
can
also
use
that
data
to
do
more
planning
create
additional
resources
to
help
reach
these
energy
goals.
M
And
lastly,
this
table
just
outlines
the
energy
savings
opportunity.
That's
out
there.
This
is
really
our
end
goal.
So
this
is
just
the
insulation
savings
of
the
existing
building
stock
in
bloomington,
so
the
homes
that
need
insulation.
If
they
were
to
complete
those
insulation
upgrades,
it
would
result
in
1.8
million
dollars
in
utility
bill
savings
per
year.
This
also
aligns
the
energy
savings
and
the
carbon
reduction
from
those
insulation
upgrades
and
with
that
I'll
pass
it
on
to
katie
jones,
to
talk
about
benchmarking
and
then
we'll
have
time
for
questions.
G
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
My
name
is
kitty
jones
and
I'll
be
talking
about
energy,
benchmarking.
G
So
as
isaac
was
mentioning
energy,
what
energy
disclosure
is
this
picture
kind
of
represents
what
energy
disclosure
means
for
energy
benchmarking
so
as
he
was
showing
that
when
you
go
out
and
buy
an
appliance,
you'll
see
these
energy
guide
labels
that
give
an
under
a
full
picture
of
the
energy
efficiency
of
that
appliance.
G
We're
doing
so
or
something
that's
very
similar
to
that
with
energy
benchmarking
for
buildings,
so,
rather
than
slapping
a
giant
yellow
sticker
on
this
on
the
edge
of
a
building,
we
are
still
trying
to
gather
that
full
picture
of
the
energy
efficiency
of
that
asset
and
getting
a
high
level.
You
know
energy
efficiency
metric
that
will
be
able
to
fully
understand
that
the
picture
of
energy
efficiency
in
the
building
and
be
able
to
communicate
that
to
potential
buyers,
sellers
leasers
and
occupants
next.
G
So
how
do
we
get
that
information?
Well,
it
brings
together
we're
bringing
together
two
silos
of
information
that
have
never
been
brought
together
before
the
first
one
is
meter,
consumption
information
which
includes
electricity,
natural
gas,
any
district
energy,
as
well
as
water
consumption
with
building
characteristics,
and
that
includes
the
building
area,
which
is
the
square
footage,
the
type
of
building,
whether
it's
a
hotel,
a
school,
an
office.
The
schedules
of
the
building,
when
is
it,
occupied
the
age
of
the
building?
G
Among
of
many
other
building
characteristics,
when
you
bring
those
two
silos
together,
you
get
three
high
level:
energy
efficiency
metrics,
the
first
one
is
energy
use,
intensity,
otherwise
known
as
eui,
and
it's
measured
in
kbtus
per
square
foot
per
year.
So
that's
the
kind
of
raw
number
normalized
over
the
area
of
the
building.
G
That's
useful
for
comparing
a
building's
energy
usage
over
time,
as
well
as
comparing
similar
buildings
to
one
another,
so
say,
comparing
one
school
of
of
a
certain
size
to
another
school
of
a
different
size.
You're
able
to
use
the
eui
to
do
that.
The
energy
star
score
is
the
second
metric
and
it
does
one
better
than
the
energy
use
intensity.
G
It
measures
the
energy
performance
on
a
1
to
100
scale,
one
being
inefficient,
100
being
efficient
and
50
being
the
natural
national
median
and
it
normalizes
for
many
others
of
those
building
characteristics
that
I
mentioned.
So
it
allows
us
to
compare,
say,
a
hotel
to
a
school
to
an
office
building
for
buildings
that
score
75
or
greater
they're,
deemed
high
high
efficiency,
and
so
they
are
eligible
for
energy,
star
rating
or
certification,
and
with
that
certification
they
can
get
a
plaque
that
goes
in
their
front
door.
G
The
front
lobby
to
indicate
that
they
are
indeed
a
high
performing
building.
And
last
but
not
least,
the
third
metric
is
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
from
the
energy
use
usage,
we
can
understand
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
that
are
associated
with
that
energy
creation
and
use,
which
is,
of
course,
very
informative
for
tracking
with
the
city-wide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
to
help
target
resources
and
attention
to
addressing
those
emissions
that
are
coming
from
buildings.
G
What
buildings
are
included
in
benchmarking?
Typically,
it's
the
largest
buildings
in
the
city,
so
we're
talking
about
large,
private,
commercial
buildings,
large
private
multi-family
buildings
and
large
public
buildings.
We're
not
talking
about
industrial
buildings
when
it
comes
to
energy
benchmarking,
and
that
is
because
industrial
buildings,
energy
use
is
typically
stems
from
the
the
the
the
processes
that
are
going
on
inside
that
building.
So
it's
a
manufacturing
process
or
something
of
the
like,
and
that
is
usually
what's
really
driving-
that
energy
consumption,
energy.
G
Benchmarking
is
really
trying
to
measure
the
the
efficiency
of
that
building
asset
and,
and
so
it
is
more
appropriate
for
those
large
public
and
private
commercial
buildings
and
than
multi-family
buildings.
G
To
benchmark
a
building,
we
use
this
program
and
it's
online.
It's
called
energy
star
portfolio
manager,
it's
a
free,
federal,
federally
supplied
program
by
the
doe
and
epa
jointly
and
what's
great
about
it.
Is
that
the
one
that
it's
free
and
two
that
it
provides
a
third-party
reporting
mechanism
so
that
it
allows
for
cities
to
gather
on
those
high-level
metrics
from
a
participating
building
so
to
to
benchmark
the
building
it
takes.
G
You
know,
bringing
together
those
data
from
those
two
silos
that
I
mentioned
and
entering
that
into
the
system,
and
it
typically
takes
between
four
and
ten
hours
for
that
that
initial
setup
that
varies
based
on
the
the
level
of
organization
that
that
building
owner
or
manager
has
of
that
data
and,
what's
lucky
in
bloomington,
is
that
the
two
main
utilities
excel
energy
and
center
point
energy
actually
have
automatic
data
transfer
tools,
and
so
once
those
are
set
up,
the
data,
the
energy
consumption
data,
just
moves
on
a
monthly
basis
into
the
portfolio
manager
system,
and
because
of
that
it
makes
the
subsequent
benchmarking
years
pretty
seamless
such
that
it.
G
You
know
the
data
flows
in
there
and
that
really,
the
only
updates
that
are
needed
are
any
with
regards
to
any
building
characteristics
that
have
changed,
and
then
the
reporting
that
comes
with
that.
G
The
second
main
piece
of
a
benchmarking
policy
is
transparency.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
the
way
that
buildings
comply
is
by
reporting
their
high-level
metrics
to
the
city,
and
so
then,
and
then
after
that
that
happens,
then
the
city
discloses
that
data
publicly
either
in
a
map
or
a
summary
report
here
is
an
example
from
the
hennepin
county's,
efficient
buildings,
collaborative
that
shows
the
the
partic
the
buildings
that
are
are
being
benchmarked
and
what's
valuable
about
this.
G
Is
that
for
a
building
owner
or
manager,
who's
looking
to
buy
a
new
building
or
a
business
that
is
looking
to
lease
into
a
new
building.
G
These
maps
provide
a
really
easy
and
seamless
way
to
understand
the
efficiency
of
those
buildings,
so
that
we
can
drive
more
more
interest
in
in
buildings
that
are
highly
efficient,
so
it's
kind
of
a
race
to
the
top
for
more
efficient
buildings,
and
that
just
allows
for
for
people
to
make
better
decisions
on
the
buildings
that
they
choose
to
to
engage
with.
G
So
energy
benchmarking
is
a
a
very
common
policy
throughout
the
united
states.
At
this
point,
so
more
than
30
jurisdictions
have
it
and
it
ranges
from
small
cities,
medium
cities
to
large
cities
that
have
adopted
it,
and
it's
mostly
because
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
that
it's
it's
common
sense
to
have
information
available
to
to
building
owners
or
potential
building
owners.
G
When
they're
making
decisions
about
these
investments.
G
So
some
of
the
benefits-
and
I
kind
of
already
hit
on
these
a
little
bit,
but
the
first
one,
is
that
it
helps
building
owners,
understand
their
building
performance
and
prioritize
that
improvements,
particularly
for
building
owners
that
have
you
know
a
portfolio
of
buildings,
they're
able
to
just
take
a
look
at
that
energy
star
score
and
see
which
one's
the
lowest
and
you
know
prioritize
their
their
efforts
there
it.
The
second
a
major
benefit
is
that
it
facilitates
building
peer
comparison.
G
So
you
know
with
that
map
it's
easy
to
understand
who
are
who
are
the
peers
by
sorting
by
by
building
type
and
getting
an
understanding
of
which
buildings
are
performing
better
or
worse,
and
you
know
learn
having
the
opportunity
to
learn
from
peer
buildings.
Third,
it
creates
demand
for
energy
efficiency
in
the
property
market.
G
By
just
having
that
information
available
it.
It
causes
more
people
to
want
that
more
efficient
buildings
because
of
the
lower
cost
of
operating
them.
Fourth,
it
equips
the
city
to
be
a
better
resource
to
building
owners.
G
So
if
the
city
wants
to
provide
resources
or
grant
funding
or
other
things
like
that,
it
having
an
understanding
of
which
buildings
have
the
greatest
opportunity
for
savings,
gives
the
city
you
know
makes
the
city
better
equipped
to
help
them
out
and
last
but
not
least,
it
helps
the
the
city
meet
minnesota,
greenstep
city,
best
practice
action
2.3,
and
I
know,
as
I
heard
earlier,
that
the
city
is
at
step
four,
so
this
could
help
set
that
set
you
all
over
the
edge
to
that
step.
Five.
G
So
I
was
mentioning
that
energy
benchmarking
helps
drive
energy
savings,
and
here
are
some
of
the
the
data
to
show
that
so
from
a
2012
study
from
energy
star
from
a
number
of
buildings
that
were
were
being
studied,
you
can
see
that
there
was
a
seven
percent
of
reduction
in
energy
use
over
a
four
year
period
and
for
a
snapshot
of
cities
that
have
benchmarking
policies.
I
try
to
take
examples
from
across
the
country.
G
You
can
see
that
generally
there
is
an
annual
energy
savings
portfolio-wide
from
about
one
to
three
percent
each
year.
G
So
this
program,
so
the
energy
hennepin
county,
is,
is
putting
on
this
efficient
buildings,
collaborative
which
bloomington
is
taking
part
in,
and
the
benefit
of
this
collaborative
is
that
it
is
a
standardized
process
of
shared
resources
and
tools
for
implementation,
to
make
it
more
economically
feasible
for
small
and
mid-sized
cities
to
adopt
benchmarking
policies
it
it
generally.
I
it
takes
a
at
least
one
full-time
staff
member
to
implement
a
benchmarking
policy.
G
If,
if
the
city
is
doing
this
as
a
standalone
city,
but
through
this
collaborative
there
is
a
much
there's
a
reduction
in
the
need
from
staff.
Because
of
this,
this
shared
shared
process
and
the
other
benefit
of
it
is
it's
creating
uniformity
across
cities
throughout
the
county
and
actually
throughout
the
state
that
allow
that
it
makes
it
easier
for
building
owners
to
to
comply
and
for
them
to
get
training
and
and
basically
share
the
the
same
resources
across
city
boundaries.
D
D
We
also
are
working
to
finalize
our
racial
equity
impact
assessments
for
both
of
these
initiatives
and
to
draft
the
policy
language
and
then
plan
to
come
back
to
a
council
for
you
to
consider
the
energy
disclosure
policies
for
adoption
and
also
the
adoption
and
approval
of
staff
time
moving
this
forward
and
then
in
queue.
Three.
D
If
we're
moving
forward,
then
coming
back
for
another
council
meeting
for
you
to
consider
energy
disclosure
ordinances
for
adoption,
so
that's
legal
language
and
then
also
having
staff
beginning
program,
implementation
preparations
from
q3
to
q4,
with
the
plan
to
launch
both
of
these.
If
they
do
pass
the
beginning
january,
1st
of
2022.
A
Well,
thank
you
all
for
the
presentation,
good
information,
interesting
concepts,
interesting
ideas,
council
questions
on
this
comments,
as
they
said,
they're
looking
for
feedback
and
we've
gotta
we'll
be
coming
back
to
this
again
later
in
the
year.
But
this
is
the
initial
opportunity
to
provide
some
feedback
or
or
some
ideas
on
this.
A
couple
things
that
I
wanted
to
throw
out,
especially
with
the
benchmarking
benefits
the
energy
savings,
the
the
one
to
two
percent
each
year.
A
A
It
definitely
adds
up
and
it's
definitely
a
worthwhile
kind
of
thing
to
take
a
look
at
and
I'm
especially
encouraged
with
the
benchmarking,
the
benchmarking
work,
the
fact
that
the
tools
through
hennepin
county
make
it
make
it
very
efficient
and
and
allow
for
that
that
city
to
city
comparison
and
actually
allow
for
minimal
staff
time
to
be
worked
on
to
be
working
on
this
because
it
is,
it
is
through
a
standardized
process
through
hennepin
county.
So
I
think
it's.
A
It's
definitely
a
good
thing
to
think
about
council
member
coulter
and
then
councilmember.
Nelson.
B
Thank
you
mayor
just
first
by
way
of
a
comment
I-
and
this
is
a
question
that
I
I
raised
previously,
but
just
to
sort
of
clarify
that
this
would
not
be.
Neither
of
these
proposals
would
be
mandates
that
that,
because,
in
this
particular
instance,
state
building
code
takes
precedent
that
we
would
not
be
mandating
anything
new
on
on
businesses
or
buildings
or
anything
like
that,
but
the
question
I
had
just
sort
of
generally
moving
forward.
B
One
thing
I
always
like
to
think
about
you
know
when
we
think
about
policy
decisions
like
this
is
sort
of
even
beyond
the
sort
of
the
initial
purpose
and
the
initial
scope.
You
know.
How
can
we
think
about
this,
and
how
can
we
use
this
to
further
our
goals?
And
so
I
kind
of
sprung
this
on
you.
So
for
I'll?
B
Forgive
you
if
you
don't
have
an
answer
right
away,
but
I'm
curious
if
there's
been
any
discussion
on
how
policies
like
this
have
been
used,
not
obviously
in
terms
of
mandates
but
to
sort
of
incentivize.
B
You
know
moving
beyond
requirements
and
and
goals,
and
all
of
that
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
a
lot
of
the
purpose
here
is
is
information
is
data,
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
any
of
you
know
anything
about
how
that
data
has
been
used
to
sort
of
move
beyond
just
these
initial
requirements
to
sort
of
incentivize
things.
D
D
So
on
the
residential
side,
I
think
it's
really
powerful
to
have
that
opportunity
to
have
some
face
time
with
people,
especially
who
are
moving
into
a
home
and
thinking
about
projects
that
they
can
do
and
then,
on
the
larger
commercial
side
of
things.
We've
been
working
with
excel's
energies,
partners
in
energy
program,
the
utilities
there's
tons
of
rebates
out
there
and-
and
I
think,
having
those
opportunity
to
say
specifically,
this
is
how
you're
scoring
it
might
incentivize.
D
You
know
we've
seen
that
it
does
incentivize
people
to
take
action
and
being
able
to
have
those
touch
points
to
say.
Okay,
your
score
is
a
little
lower
and,
I
think
katie.
Maybe
you
could
share
your
example
of
what
one
of
the
cities
is
doing
with
the
grant
program,
but
definitely
using
this
as
a
launching
point
to
have
communication
and
then
connect
with
resources
to
get
work
done.
G
Yeah
yeah,
I
think,
as
you
were
saying
emma,
that
yeah
knowledge
is
power,
and
I
mean
we
see
that
more
and
more
companies
are
wanting
to
occup
be
in
spaces
that
are
sustainable,
that
are
more
efficient,
and
so
it's
almost
seen
at
you
know
with
buildings
that
are
efficient.
G
It's
seen,
as
a
kind
of
you
know,
on
a
many
amenities
similar
to
if
you
have
a
gym
or
if
you
have
no
other
other
spaces
that
are
desirable,
and
so
it's
pushing
the
market
in
the
in
the
way
that
that
the
city
is
wanting
to
see
it
move.
So
that's
one
thing
and
then
another
thing
is
that
the
city
can
can
help.
You
know
prod.
You
know,
move
that
along
as
well.
G
B
Thank
you
and
I
I
think
that
that
last
part
was
more
was
I
was
more.
What
I
was
getting
at
is,
I
think
you
know,
should
this
move
forward?
What
are
we,
what
are
we
doing
with
the
information
to
sort
of
build
on
that
and
incentivize
better,
better
efficiency?
Thank
you.
P
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
and
just
got
a
few
things
here.
I'm
kind
of
picking
up
on
where
council
member
coulter
was
with
regards
to
you
know
this
isn't
a
mandate
for
any
type
of
specific
instruction,
but
information
for
people
and
I'd
just
like
to
applaud
the
commission
for
taking
that
approach
of
doing
a
performance-based
system
instead
of
a
prescriptive
based
system.
P
I
personally
have
seen
it
work
very
effectively,
helped
create
the
minnesota
green
path
program
and
see
new
home
construction
where
they
they
put
that
right
on
there
and
people
are
marketing
that
that
their
homes
are
efficient
and
the
market
is
responding
to
the
mayor's
point.
You
know
two
percent
per
year
doesn't
seem
like
a
lot
until
you
go
out
a
few
years,
and
you
know
the
reality
is.
P
Is
these
are
major
undertakings
for
improvements,
replacing
your
windows,
insulating
your
attic,
and
only
so
many
people
are
going
to
do
that
every
year,
and
so,
if
you're,
seeing
that
type
of
benefit,
you
know
community-wide
in
a
few
years
we're
going
to
be
making
some
some
real
progress
on
there.
So
I
I
appreciate
that
just
a
couple
of
questions
particularly
related
to
the
the
time
of
sale
program.
P
It
seems
very
focused
on
the
heating
and
air
conditioning,
and
you
know
the
insulation,
the
building
envelope
and
all
that
was
there
consideration
of
looking
at
the
kind
of
the
other
half
of
the
energy
use
in
terms
of
lighting
appliances.
Electronics,
all
of
those
types
of
items
within
the
building.
M
Thank
you
for
the
question:
councilmember
nelson.
Yes,
we
have
looked
and
thought
about
those
things
I
think
from
the
energy
disclosure
standpoint.
Those
are
items
that
are
much
more
visible
and
readily
and
apparent
and
have
market-based
strategies
as
far
as
energy,
star
appliances
and
led
lighting
and
different
buy-downs
going
there.
So
this
was
really
more
focused
on
things
that
aren't
visible.
M
What's
behind
the
drywall
in
the
house,
and
people
don't
understand
heating
systems
quite
as
well,
so
we
purposely
kind
of
tried
to
limit
the
data
collection
to
those
key
areas
that
we
thought
needed
to
be
made
visible
the
most
and
had
the
largest
energy
savings
opportunity,
which
isn't
to
say.
Obviously,
lighting
is
a
big
opportunity
still
in
residential
homes,
as
well
as
appliances.
P
You
know,
and
I
appreciate
that
that
you
can
see
a
light
bulb
and
see,
and
you
know
to
be
fair.
You
know,
if
you
don't
like
their
old
incandescent
bulbs,
you
can
put
leds
in
when
you
move
in
and
that
type
of
thing
you're,
probably
much
more
difficult
to
re-insulate
the
building,
so
that
makes
sense.
In
terms
of
of
this
systems,
I
noted
that
the
a
water
heater
was
not
included,
even
though
that's
a
fairly
large
gas
appliance
in
most
places,
maybe
a
few
electrical,
but
mostly
gas.
B
M
P
And
I
appreciate
that-
and
this
looks
like
a
proposal
that
can
definitely
be
expanded
as
we
go
forward
into
some
of
these
other
things.
You
know
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
from
my
from
my
recollection
in
terms
of
residential
construction.
I
think
the
water
heating
is
somewhere
between
five
to
ten
percent
of
the
energy
use
of
a
home.
So
it's
not
huge,
but
it's
not
insignificant
and
there
are
technologies
that
you
can
look
at
in
terms
of
on
demand
and
things
like
that.
That
really
impact
those
things.
P
One
of
the
things
that
I
thought
was
interesting
is
that
you
have
storm
windows
in
there
and
I
guess
you
know
how
do
you
if,
when
you're
looking
at,
are
you
literally
looking
at
storm
windows
or
are
you
looking
at
whether
or
not
it's
multiple
panes
with
low
e
argon
gas
or
triple
pane
or
or
is
it
just
literally
storm
windows?.
M
That
is
a
great
question:
councilmember
nelson,
so
with
windows
in
the
energy
field,
with
experience
going
out
and
doing
energy
audits
and
talking
to
homeowners,
it's
the
number
one
thing
that
homeowners
think
they
need
to
do
to
improve
the
energy
efficiency
of
their
home,
but
it's
also
the
most
expensive
upgrade
you
can
make
compared
to
some
of
these
insulation
upgrades
and
less
visible
things,
so
with
energy
audits
and
in
the
home
energy
squad.
We
include
windows
in
that
score
as
a
kind
of
comparison
mechanism
to
showcase
that
there
could
be
window
opportunities.
M
But
you
know,
wall
insulation
is
a
much
larger
square
footage
and
it's
a
lower
cost
upgrade
and
attic
installation.
So
it's
almost
more
of
a
comparison
tool.
So,
when
looking
at
the
cost-effective
energy
savings
opportunities
of
a
10-year
payback
or
less
based
on
the
energy
savings,
you
would
get
the
most
cost-effective
energy
upgrade
for
windows
is.
If
you
have
single
pane
windows-
and
you
do
not
have
a
storm,
we
always
recommend
that
you
put
a
storm
on
and
have
that
be
an
airtight
seal,
essentially
making
a
single
pin
window
a
double
paint
window.
M
There
are
obviously
more
things
you
can
do
with
windows.
You
can
go
to
double
pane,
triple
pane,
low
e,
all
of
those
those
are
more
expensive
upgrades
and
people
will
upgrade
windows
for
other
reasons
as
well.
So
we're
really
again
just
kind
of
leaning
on
that
energy
savings
opportunity
side
of
things.
P
This
is
not
a
question,
it's
more
of
a
comment,
but
one
of
my
biggest
pet
peeves
are
replacement
windows
in
the
existing
frame,
because
you,
you
change
a
window
from
an
r1
to
an
r2,
and
but
you
don't
insulate
around
it,
and,
and
you
know
all
the
wind
is
blowing
through
around
your
frame
and
not
no
improvement
there
and
you
just
spent
twenty
thousand
dollars,
and
you
know
what
you
get
for
it.
But
that's.
P
I
don't
need
to
comment
on
that.
That's
my
own
comment.
The
other
part
that
I
saw
within
this
is.
Is
that
point,
though,
in
terms
of
one
of
the
things
that
really
impacts
energy
efficiency
as
much
as
the
insulation
values?
Is
the
air
sealing
the
the
air
barriers
and
things
like
that?
Is
there
any
consideration
of
that
portion
of
the
building
envelope.
M
Yeah,
that's
another
great
question:
council
member
nelson.
So
with
going
through
the
minneapolis
policy
and
food
in
our
energy
audits,
a
lower
door
test
is
the
best
measure
of
air
leakage
in
an
existing
building
when
evaluating
that
and
talking
through
it
internally.
So
far
with
the
engagement
with
bloomington,
the
added
cost
of
that
equipment
and
training,
making
sure
that
you
got
a
quality
number
from
that
test
kind
of
outweighed
the
benefits
of
having
that
very
specific,
lower
door
test
number.
M
What
I
will
say
is
when
installation
is
completed
and
through
the
resources
we
have
outlined
in
the
report,
we're
encouraging
homeowners
to
go
through
the
center
point
insulation
rebate
program,
which
then
requires
air
sealing
to
be
completed
when
you
do
add
a
cancellation.
So
when
they're
going
through
and
taking
those
steps,
we
want
to
encourage
them
to
get
that
rebate,
which
would
then
require
that
air
sealing
to
be
completed
during
that
upgrade.
P
Process
that
is
good
one
of
the
things
that
I
hope
from
this
program
and,
first
of
all,
I
I
understand
why
you're
doing
the
easy
to
measure
data
points
and
trying
to
keep
the
cost
minimal
for
homeowners
and
definitely
appreciate
that,
and
I
think
it's
a
good
approach.
I
think,
as
future
iterations
are
looked
at,
that
blower
door
test.
I
know
there's
been
some
capacity
issues
and
things
like
that,
as
the
marketplace
is
looking
at
those.
P
I
know
there
was
a
delay
in
getting
them,
but
you
know
one
of
the,
maybe
a
lower
steps
and
it
came
up
in
the
benchmarking
for
the
larger
commercial
buildings.
I
believe
that
excel
energy
has
reports
for
homeowners.
Now
that
talk
to
how
much
energy
they
use
within
that
home.
Is
that
something
that
we
could
get
on
the
residential
side
to
actually
see
where
they're
at
how
the
building
is
actually
performing?
I
know
I
get
a
report
every
like
quarter.
P
M
Yeah,
those
are
a
great
question,
so
two
things
with
that
is
kind
of
with
the
zero
to
100
rating.
It's
an
energy
asset
ratings,
we're
very
much
focused
on
the
structure
of
that
home
in
the
building
where
the
energy
usage,
or
that
pest
usage
is
kind
of
how
you're
using
that
building.
So
you
know,
if
you
have
more
people
on
the
home
or
your
lights
on
or
how
much
you
do.
The
lawn
like
all
of
these
things,
impact
your
bills
and
don't
necessarily
tell
the
next
owner
how
to
improve
that
asset.
M
P
Because
I
do
see
that
as
actually
fairly
widely
available
within
the
real
estate
community,
so
where
people
you
know,
I
know
a
lot
of
buyers
and
it's
something
I'd
recommend
to
somebody-
is
that
they
ask
for
that
past
history,
so
they
can
review
it.
So
maybe
there
are
legal
restrictions.
So
I
appreciate
that
again.
I
think
you
guys
are
going
a
really
good
direction.
P
I
think
there's
future
iterations
that
I
would
encourage
consideration
of
one
of
which
is
to
look
at
how
to
incorporate
these
measurements
within
the
remodeling
market,
and
so
we
got
those
measurements
not
just
to
the
houses
that
sold
every
year,
but
also
the
houses
that
are
improved
every
year
and
I
think
from
information
I
got
from
staff
today.
It's
about
1500
residential
remodeling
permits
a
year,
but
we
had
1500,
sell
and
1500
get
remodeled.
P
You
know,
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
3
000
houses
a
year
that
we
can
start
to
get
this
data
for,
and
I
really
really
like
the
market-based
approach
to
it.
Where
we
give
people
information,
they
can
make
their
their
own
decisions
on
what
they
want
to
do.
They
know
what
they're
getting
when
they
buy
the
house
or
the
model,
and
I
certainly
have
seen
it
encourage
people
to
do
things,
so
I
would
do
that.
P
You
know,
if
possible,
I
will
be
honest:
I'm
not
the
biggest
fan
of
the
time
of
sale
inspection
if
there
is
a
separate
third-party
inspection
and
that's
something
I
would
love
to
talk
to
my
colleague
more
about
at
some
point
of
reviewing
that
part
of
it
just
because
what
I've
seen
in
the
green
remodeling
green
building
space
is
third-party
verification
seems
to
be
the
standard
right
now
we're
leaning
on
the
city
to
do
that.
P
But
there
are
a
lot
of
other
providers
of
that
verification
that
we
might
be
able
to
do
get
that
same
data,
but
give
you
know
it
seems
redundant,
sometimes
for
people
to
have
their
own
inspection
and
the
city
inspections,
but
that's
a
that's
a
different
issue.
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
a
good
proposal,
my
opinion,
a
good
direction.
L
Oh
thank
you
mayor,
so
hey
when
I
saw
first
saw
this
several
years
back
at
a
national
conference.
I
was
really
excited
when
I
talked
to
chair
sandra
about
it.
So
I'm
excited
to
actually
see
that
we're
actually
talking
about
this
here
and
having
the
conversation
among
the
the
council.
L
So
one
thing
that
I,
when
I
look
at
this
disclosure
piece,
is
that
you
know.
Certainly
you
have
the
disclosure.
L
You
got
all
the
information,
that's
written
on
the
sheet
and
then
then
now
you
got
to
make
these
changes
or
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
make
these
changes,
but
these
things
would
would
be
beneficial
for
the
person
who's
going
to
own
the
house.
Next,
how
do
we
communicate
that?
How
do
we
encourage
those
folks
who
are
socially
economically
challenged?
L
To
kind
of
you
know
either
one
get
that
done
earlier
in
the
process,
so
they
can
really
take
advantage
of
that
raise
the
price
of
their
their
their
house
or
for
those
folks
who
are
moving
into
that
house
being
able
to
harness
other
programs
that
we
have
with
the
city.
I
know
you've
mentioned
in
there.
We've
got
low.
You
know
there's
financing
there.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
Just
a
little
bit.
D
Yeah
so
mr
mayor
councilmember
lowman,
so
as
far
as
the
income
eligible
programs,
I
would
say
right
now
what
the
city
is
working
on.
We
have
a
minnesota
green
corps,
member
who
is
serving
with
us
for
the
year
and
she
is
currently
working
on
developing
outreach
materials
partnering
with
veep
on
our
energy
assistance
program,
and
once
residents
apply
for
energy
assistance,
they
also
applied
or
are
qualified
to
be
with
the
state's
weatherization
assistance
program.
So
they
can
be
getting
free
insulation
for
their
home
and
all
the
larger
upgrades.
D
So
it's
really
an
awareness
issue
right
now
of
getting
that
information
out,
because
we
know
that
there's
so
many
more
residents
who
are
eligible
for
these
programs
that
just
aren't
able
to
apply
or
know
about
them.
So
that's
step
number
one
everyone
who's
eligible
to
have
you
know
free
insulation
and
air
sealing
done.
Let's,
let's
find
a
way
to
help
folks
if
they
want
to
get
that
work
done
and
then
also
with
the
hra
they've,
been
buying
down
the
home
energy
squad
visit
to
50
instead
of
100,
since
I
believe
2013.
D
So
that's
a
way
to
help
people,
even
if
they
aren't
income
qualified
with
the
state's
requirements
to
have
a
discounted
visit,
and
that
visit
is
completely
free
again
if
residents
meet
the
income
qualifications
of
energy
assistance
as
well,
so
starting
to
do
more
outreach
and
engagement
around
that
and
with
the
air
ceiling
insulation
pilot
that
we're
launching
this
year,
doing
targeted
community
engagement
and
focus
groups
around
what
does
it
take
to
get
this
work
done
and
hearing
from
people?
D
You
know
if
they
have
other
priorities,
or
this
isn't
something
you
know
I
before
I
started
this
work.
I
didn't
think
about
what
was
in
my
walls
of
where
I
was
living
ever.
I
had
other
things
going
on,
so
helping
make
that
more
approachable
and
understandable
recognizing
people
have
busy
lives,
but
that's
something
that
we're
working
on
right
now.
They
are
ceiling,
insulation
pilot
and
getting
that
launched.
L
Well,
thank
you.
I
hope
that
we
really
do
have
a
concrete
strategy
and
plan
to
kind
of
pre-communicate
post-communicate
around,
especially
around
certain
demographic
folks
that
could
take
advantage
of
it
and
then
also
secondarily,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
really
harness
our
home
loan
program
that
we
have
for
those
folks
to
be
able
to
utilize
some
of
these
things
that
we
really
incentivize
that
and
encourage
folks
to
utilize.
That
I
mean
this
really
saves.
You
know
a
family,
a
lot
of
money.
You
know
as
they
move
forward.
L
So
those
are
things
I
just
want
to
encourage
us
to
kind
of
do
that
if
we
move
forward
with
this
this
process
that
we're
kind
of
really
being
focused
on
that
and
we'll
get
to
the
wall
piece
at
another
point,
because
I
you
know
talking
about
insulation
and
drilling
holes
in
walls.
I
know
that's
going
to
be
a
question.
I
think
that
we've
also
need
to
figure
out
that
piece
out
too
as
well.
L
I
think
that
the
general
public,
if
we
kind
of
go
down
this
route,
they're,
going
to
have
questions
about
that,
and
I
think
we
just
we
need
to
address
that
rather
than
letting
that
get
too
far
down
the
down
the
line,
but-
and
we
can
cover
that
again
when
we
get
together
later
on.
One
thing
that
I
had
a
question
about
with
this
disclosure
piece
in
particular,
was
it's
my
understanding
that
we
can?
L
You
know
as
a
city
customize
some
of
this
some
of
what
we're
doing
with
this
energy
disclosure
in
the
report.
Am
I
right
about
that,
or
am
I
am
I
thinking
thinking
wrongly
about
that.
D
Councilmember
lowman,
we
can
definitely
customize.
One
of
the
things
that
came
up
during
the
workshops
was
the
importance
or
the
value
of
the
commission
and
having
a
regional
standard
so
that
we
are
able
to
leverage
existing
maps
and
tools
that,
if
someone's
looking
for
a
house,
they
might
not
just
be
looking
within
the
boundary
of
bloomington,
but
we
can
buy
into
a
larger
system.
D
L
You
took
my
question
because
that's
where
I
was
going,
I
was
going
to
say
well
how
do
we
do
that
and
still
try
to
do
the
comparison
with
other
other
cities?
And
if
we
do
that,
because
I
know
we
may
have
our
own
standards
here-
that
we're
trying
to
drive
towards,
but
then
how
do?
We
then
do
that
that
data
comparison
which
yeah
that
you've
got
it
so
yeah
we're
definitely
talking
about
that
within
the
the
commission.
So
I
think
I'm
gonna
stop
there.
L
I
think
I
certainly
have
a
lot
of
questions
I
can
ask,
but
I
think
those
are
the
the
ones
that
are
are
important.
I
I
want
to
stress
for
my
colleagues
that
I
think
really
having
a
solid
plan
around
these
folks
that
maybe
not
take
advantage
of
this
normally
and
really
looking
at
the
data
that
as
you've
mentioned
and
then
also
making
sure
that
we
find
ways
to
continue
to
to
latch
ourselves
into
our
home
loan
program.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
If
there
are
none,
we
saw
that
next
steps
coming
up
our
community
engagement
and
looking
at
the
racial
equity
impacts
of
the
assessment,
the
draft
policy
language
and
then
we'll
council
it'll
be
back
in
front
of
council
sometime
in
the
first
or
second
quarter
here
of
this
year
to
look
at
energy
disclosure
policies
for
adoption.
A
Very
good,
so
stress.
Thank
you
very
much
and
mr
smith,
ms
jones,
thank
you
for
your
input,
an
interesting
discussion.
Thank
you.
So
very.
D
A
K
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
don't
think
this
will
come
as
a
surprise
to
all
of
you,
but
I
was
very
disappointed
that
I
couldn't
make
the
council
meeting
last
week
and
also
my
apologies.
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
on
the
record
that
you
know
the
vote
on
declaring
racism
a
public
health
crisis.
If
I
were
to
be
here,
I
of
course
would
have
voted
in
full
support.
K
One
of
the
biggest
reasons
that
I
ran
for
council
was
because
of
the
vast
inequities
that
we
see
across
bloomington,
and
I
I
think
we
all
can
agree
that
the
events
of
2020
have
really
demonstrated
just
how
devastating
those
inequities
are,
and
I
also
believe
that
2020
has
shown
us
what
many
have
said
for
a
long
time
and
that's
that
racism
still
exists
and
that's
explicit
racism,
but
it's
also
the
insidious,
implicit
systemic
racism
that
is
really
pervasive
throughout
organizations
and
structures
and
decision-making
processes.
K
K
I
feel
like
the
progress
that's
been
made
over
the
last
year
is
just
incredibly
significant,
and
I
know
this
work
has
been
happening
for
years
in
the
city,
but
I
feel
like
we
have
a
very
clear
path
in
front
of
us
now
and
we
have
clear
ways
to
hold
ourselves
accountable,
and
so
you
know
moving
forward.
I
feel
confident
that
we're
going
to
do
better
we're
going
to
be
more
equitable
and-
and
I'm
just
really
really
really
thankful.
K
The
last
thing
that
I
will
just
emphasize
quickly
is:
I
think,
that
there's
a
notion
that
racial
equity
work
benefits
one
segment
of
a
population
when,
in
fact
the
whole
goal
of
racial
equity
work
is
to
make
sure
that
all
parts
of
the
population
are
thriving
and
able
to
succeed
and
and
can
live
a
life
full
of
opportunity,
and
we
do
that
by
paying
close
attention
to
those
portions
of
our
population
that
do
experience
inequities.
You
know
that
are
oppressed.
K
That
have
been
left
out
of
conversations,
and
so
I
just
I
wanted
to
emphasize
that
because
I
do
think
that
there
may
be
a
misunderstanding
about
what
our
ultimate
goal
is,
and
it
really
is
improving
the
health
of
our
entire
community.
And
so
again,
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
on
council
and
I
just
was
really
excited
to
see
the
way
that
that
vote
went.
A
Agreed,
thank
you,
council
member
carter,
and
thank
you
for
your
your
voice
on
this
issue
over
the
past
you're
on
your
first
year
on
the
council.
Greatly
appreciated
that
you've
taken
this
on
is
something
that
is
important
to
you
and
it's
clear
in
in
your
your
words
and
actions.
So
thank
you
for
that.
B
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
really
wanted
to
give
a
brief
update.
I
had
a
virtual
con
virtual
community
conversation
event.
This
past
thursday
was
really
really
well
attended.
I
think
we
ended
up
having
all
probably
in
total,
maybe
10
or
15
people
online,
which
was
was
pretty
great.
We
covered
a
lot
of
territory,
it's
a
really
good,
really,
vibrant
conversation.
We
talked
about
racial
equity.
We
talked
about
the
potential
for
a
new
community
center.
B
We
talked
about
ways
that
we
can
all
be
responsible
for
a
more
respectful
public
discussion,
public
discourse
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
that
and
to
publicly
thank
tracy
smith
with
our
community
outreach
engagement
division.
She
ran
technical
support
and
helped
me
catch
questions
that
folks
typed
into
the
chat
and
all
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
tracy
for
for
her
assistance.
One
question
that
that
a
couple
of
folks
did
ask
about
that.
B
I'm
wondering
if
the
city
manager
can
give
us
an
update
on
is
when,
when
we
might
be
expecting
taking
up
ordinances
and
policies
related
to
the
implementation
of
rank,
choice,
voting
for
our
city
elections,
this
fall
and
beyond.
A
I
A
P
Mary
I
apologize
I
just
wanted
to.
I
know
it
was
alluded
to
early
in
the
meeting,
but
just
wanted
to
give
a
warm
welcome
to
chief
hartley,
and
I
know
that
former
chief
potts
has
moved
on
with
a
gross
misunderstanding
of
what
retirement
means
into
a
different
position.
P
But
you
know
he
obviously
served
our
city
well,
and
I
think
the
most
important
characteristic
of
a
leader
is
to
develop
the
people
behind
them
so
that
when
it
is
an
opportunity
for
them
to
move
forward,
there
are
other
people
in
position
to
step
up
and
get
absolute
confidence
in
chief
hartley
and
really
looking
forward
to
his
leadership
and
just
just
wanted
to
say
you
know,
welcome
and
look
forward
to
getting
to
know
you
better
and
getting
information
over
the
community
about
that.
I
think
is,
is
important.
P
L
A
I
have
a
motion
by
council
member
loman
and
the
second
by
council
member
carter
to
adjourn
hearing
no
further
discussion.
Ms
christensen.