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From YouTube: November 8, 2021 Bloomington City Council Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota City Council Meeting
A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome,
I
appreciate
how
you
everybody
quieted
down
right
at
six
o'clock.
It's
very
impressive!
Well
done
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
bloomington
city
council
to
order
monday
november
8th
2021..
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
We
will
start
our
meeting
as
we
always
do.
If
you
would
please
rise
and
join
me
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
A
Once
again
welcome
good
to
see
so
many
people
in
the
council
chambers,
I
think
this
is
the
most
we've
had
in
close
to
two
years
so
glad
to
see
you
all
here
tonight.
Thank
you
so
very
much
and
thank
you
to
everybody
watching
at
home
as
well.
We
will
get
started
tonight
with
a
roll
call.
I
know
that
councilmember
martin
is
out
of
town
will
not
be
joining
us
and
just
for
everybody's
information,
the
city
manager,
mr
virginia,
is
going
to
be
joining
us
remotely
from
home
as
well.
B
A
A
A
Bussie
aye
motion
carries
six
zero.
We've
got
an
agenda
next
on.
Our
agenda
is
item
four,
which
is
our
public
comment
period,
and
our
public
comment
period
is
a
20
minute
period
at
each
council
meeting
where
we
allow
members
of
the
public
to
come
forward
and
address
the
public
or
excuse
me
address
the
council
on
any
item
not
on
tonight's
agenda
and
we
do
limit
it
to
20
minutes.
It's
not
a
back
and
forth,
and
so
on.
It's
just
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
listen.
A
B
A
You
counsel
any
questions.
Hearing
none
we'll
move
to
item
4.2,
which
is
our
public
comment
period.
As
I
said
each
speaker
limited
to
five
minutes.
It's
not
laid
out
as
a
back
and
forth.
It's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
listen,
we'll
clarify
any
questions
of
fact
or
specifics,
but
otherwise
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
council
to
listen
and
take
input
from
members
of
the
public.
C
As
I
mentioned
previously
offers
met
at
my
home
and
first
they
mentioned
the
inaccurate
report
from
2018
than
the
ac
report
for
well
in
my
neighbor's
driveway.
Then
the
inaccurate
september
17th
report
there's
another
inaccurate
report
from
september
4th
at
12
44
that
the
officers
did
not
mention
the
report
states
nests
continuing
to
tape.
Children
just
wanted
to
report
that
he's
bothered
by
sally.
I
did
not
continue
to
tape
children.
I
was
at
the
park
earlier
that
morning.
C
I
text
a
neighbor,
no
students
at
park
and
first
thing
is:
they
all
go
on
the
playground
equipment?
I
talked
with
the
woman
who
did
not
know
the
park
was
for
public
use,
but
saw
me
and
the
grandchildren
so
she
came
to
use
it.
I
took
six
pictures
of
the
grandchildren
at
9
55..
I
left
the
park
when
the
students
came
out.
I
took
a
picture
of
the
woman's
van
as
we
were
leaving
at
10
27,
and
so
so
I
would
remember
the
conversation.
C
C
I
wanted
him
to
specifically
see
specifically
when
we
got
to
the
park,
how
the
kids
go
on
the
equipment
which
is
needed
to
get
their
large
muscle
activity
and
then,
when
the
students
come
out,
how
they
get
off
the
equipment
notice
their
demeanor,
the
fear
that
they
have
in
them
detective
one.
So
you
wanted
to
bring
your
grandchildren
over
there
and
then
have
the
success.
Academy.
Kids
come
out
and
you
wanted
to
document
your
children's
fear.
I
replied.
I
wanted
the
attorney
to
see
what
happens
detective.
C
Why
would
you
bring
your
grandchildren
over
there
if
you're
so
afraid
of
these
children
attorney?
Don't
answer
the
question
for
information,
I'm
not
afraid
of
the
children.
I
am
afraid
of
the
younger
children
playing
on
the
playground
with
older
children
detective.
It
makes
no
sense
to
me.
Does
it
make
sense
to
you?
No,
not
if
you
think
it's
unsafe
and
placing
your
grandchildren
harm's
way.
I
mean,
if
you
think,
it's
unsafe.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
why
you
would
put
them
if
you
think
it's
dangerous,
why
you
would
take
them
over
there
for
information.
C
It
is
a
public
park
and
asking
why
I
take
them.
There
questions
whether
the
detective
recognizes
that
smith
park
is
a
public
park
and
not
owned
by
a
private
business.
Additionally,
the
grandchildren
would
get
off
the
equipment,
so
I
did
not
put
them
in
harm's
way.
The
following
questions,
my
attorney
said
not
to
answer,
and
they
are
all
inappropriate
detective.
C
Do
you
have
access
to?
Are
you
handicapped
at
all
detective?
Do
you
have
access
to
your
kids
to
take
your
kids
to
any
other
parks
in
bloomington
detective?
Do
you
have
access
to
bring
the
children
over
there
at
other
times
during
the
day
detective?
Have
you
ever
brought
your
children
over
there
at
other
times
during
the
day
or
I'm
sorry,
your
grandchildren
at
other
times
during
the
day
and
when
success
again,
the
kids
have
not
been
on
the
playground
reminder
to
council.
C
My
attorney
spoke
at
the
city
council
meeting
that
same
night,
asking
when
the
school
uses
the
playground
and
the
city
answered
any
time,
and
yet
a
month
later,
detectives
are
asking.
If
I
can
use
the
public
park
at
another
time
or
go
to
another
park,
that
should
not
happen
detective.
When
the
success
academy
kids
went
back
into
the
school,
did
you
continue
to
stay
on
the
playground
with
your
grandchildren?
I
replied
there
be
video
and
I
personally
think
we
did
stay.
I
am
then
asked
if
I
videotaped
or
took
photos
I
did
not.
C
I
did
try
to
audio
record
the
attorney
speaking
to
other
adults.
Detective
have
you
been
over
to
the
park
since
the
september
23rd?
I
reply.
Yes,
can
you
estimate
how
many
times
or
at
what
times
during
the
day
I
replied
very
seldom
detective.
Did
you
go
over
and
do
any
documenting
on
those
days
on
the
very
seldom
days
that
you
were
over
there?
I
reply?
No
detective.
No
okay.
Did
you
go
over
there
with
your
grandchildren?
A
A
A
Last
call
for
anyone
in
the
chambers
see
no
one
coming
forward
and
no
one
on
the
phone.
I
will
close
tonight's
public
comment
period
and
we
will
move
on
to
item
five,
which
is
our
introductory
items
this
evening
and
our
first
introductory
item
item
5.1.
We
have
the
honor
and
the
pleasure
of
having
with
us
this
evening.
The
hennepin
county
district
court
chief
judge
todd
barnett,
who
is
with
us.
A
D
Thanks
for
having
me,
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
be
before
you
and
the
council
members
today.
My
plan
is
to
go
over
the
one
page
sheet
that
we
provided
earlier,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
on
the
overhead
and
just
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
hennepin
county
court
and
just
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
it's,
but
what
I'll
say
is
our
mission
in
hennepin
county
district
court.
D
You
can
imagine
that,
because
of
the
pandemic,
that
has
been
a
little
difficult
at
moments,
but
we
are
making
it
through.
One
thing
you
might
not
know
is
that
we
have
63
judges
and
12
referees,
but
we
have
over
500
employees,
one
of
the
things
that
I
say
whenever
I
go
out
in
public,
I
say
it
takes
over
500
people
to
make
63
judges
and
12
referees
look
good.
So
it's
a
lot
of
work.
D
D
It's
very
interesting.
In
2020,
during
the
pandemic,
there
were
300
requests
for
jury
trials.
When
you
look
at
2019,
we
had
700
or
more
requests
for
jury
trials,
but
we
still
summon
over
30
000
jurors.
The
way
that
breaks
down
is
that
a
little
over
7
000
actually
came
down
the
court,
so
they
appeared
in
the
government
center
about
5,
000
or
more
actually
went
into
a
courtroom.
D
D
D
D
D
People
didn't
have
to
take
off
for
work
to
come
down
and
wait
several
hours
for
the
hearing.
They
could
stay
at
work
and
do
it
over
a
lunch
break.
People
didn't
have
to
get
daycare,
they
could
stay
home
and
attend
their
court
hearing
we've
we
found
that
people
who
normally
would
come
from
out
of
state
didn't
have
to
pay
for
transportation
to
get
here.
They
could
do
it
remotely.
D
One
of
the
letters
that
I
received
that
I
was
not
thinking
about
as
we
went
to
remote
hearings
and
not
thinking
of
a
benefit,
but
I
got
a.
I
think
it
was
an
email
from
a
person
that
was
disabled,
physically
disabled
and
they
were
saying
how
much
they
enjoyed
the
fact
they
didn't
have
to
navigate
downtown
in
the
government
center
to
rep
to
appear
in
court
for
remote
hearings.
So
there
are
some
benefits
to
remote
hearings
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
and
and
just
to
let
you
know
about
those.
D
We
will
continue
to
work
on
the
cases
that
we
currently
have,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
about.
I
would
say
every
four
months
clear
about
600
cases.
We
cannot
do
that
without
the
help
of
our
justice
partners.
So
I
wanted
to
just
talk
briefly
about
your
bloomington
prosecutors
just
briefly
here,
because
they're
in-house
it's
been
easier
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
more
people
on
calendars.
D
It's
been
able
to
talk
with
them
about
changing
things
and
it's
really
been
a
benefit
for
us,
because
a
lot
of
our
prosecutors
are
contracts
through
other
cities
and
they
have
other
work
to
do,
but
with
bloomington
it's
always
been
easy
for
us
to
work
with
them
to
make
calendar
changes.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
and
if
there's
any
questions
I
will
answer
them
to
best.
I
can.
A
D
E
Thank
you
mayor
and,
and
thank
you
I
appreciate
you
coming
and
talking
with
us
today.
I
have
two
questions.
One
recently,
the
south
metro
court
location
was
closed,
which
has
had
a
negative
impact
on
bloomington,
our
prosecutors
and
things
like
that,
and
I
heard
you
tonight
I
just
want
to
clarify.
There
are
two
courts
in
minneapolis
and
then
two
in
the
suburbs
is
that
accurate,
no.
D
There's
there's
five
locations
downtown
and
then
there
so
you
have
downtown
you
have
the
government
center,
you
have
family
justice,
you
have
the
juvenile
center,
you
have
what
we
call
the
public
safety
facility
and
then
we
have
city
hall.
We
had
some,
I
think
conciliation
court
there
and
then
in
the
suburbs
we
have
ridgedale
and
south
and
ridgedale
in
in
brookdale.
E
And
I
guess
one
of
my
concerns
is
you
know
my
understanding.
Minneapolis
is
about
400
000
people
in
the
entirety
of
hennepin
county
is
about
1.2
million,
and
it
seems
like
we're
a
little
bit,
at
least
from
where
I
sit
in
bloomington
a
little
over
focused
with
facilities
serving
minneapolis
and
and
it
is
causing
some
problems
within
our
budgets
and
things
like
that
to
have
to
travel
there
pay
for
parking
things
of
that.
E
D
It's
labor
intensive
because
behind
the
scenes
and
we
use
zoom
so
behind
the
scenes,
you
have
a
several
clerks
working
to
put
people
in
breakout
rooms
with
their
attorneys
and
then
bring
them
back
to
court.
You
have
interpreters
that
we
we
have
as
well.
So
it's
a
lot
of
work
for
the
court
staff.
We've
been
able
to
address
or
really
starting
to
ramp
up,
addressing
the
backlog,
because
we
have
some
additional
funding
to
do
that.
E
A
B
A
D
D
F
Thank
you
mayor
really
more,
so
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
coming
to
give
us
an
update.
You
know
in
regards
to
this
and
if
they
ever
do
decide
to
do
some
expansion
down
in
the
southern
part
of
my
my
fellow
councilmember
nelson
really
kind
of
spoke
to
that,
and
I
I'd
love
to
see
that
we
talk
about
what
you
had
brought
forward
with
the
equity
piece
with
the
virtual
piece.
I
know
that
location
always
helps
with
that.
F
F
D
A
D
A
As
I
said,
we
have
three
proclamations
tonight
and
our
first
proclamation
is
for
native
american
heritage.
Month
and
november
has
been
designated
native
american
heritage
month.
It's
a
time
to
acknowledge
and
celebrate
the
history
and
the
culture
and
the
traditions
of
native
americans,
not
only
in
bloomington
but
across
the
country,
and
certainly
we
have
a
large
and
rich
history
of
native
american
populations
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
I
do
want
to
read
this
proclamation
for
native
american
heritage
months
month
november
2021.
A
A
A
I
don't
know
anything
more
to
add
to
that
other
than
to
say
to
all
veterans,
both
here
and
and
watching.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
your
service.
It
is
deeply
and
greatly
appreciated
and
our
final
proclamation
is
somewhat
tied
to
that.
Actually,
it
is
a
proclamation
regarding
the
beyond
the
yellow
ribbon
network.
A
Now
the
beyond
the
yellow
ribbon
network,
it's
it's
a
statewide
initiative
that
synchronizes
community
resources
in
support
of
veterans
in
the
community
and
their
families
and
so
on,
and
we
have
had
a
yellow
ribbon
network
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington
before
this
is
a
bit
of
a
kind
of
a
reboot
or
a
reaffirmation
of
our
commitment
to
the
beyond
the
yellow
ribbon
network.
So
what
I
would
like
to
do,
we've
got
a
number
of
folks
here.
A
If
you're
watching
at
home,
we've
got
a
number
of
folks
in
the
council
chambers
here
tonight
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
if
you'd
like
to
come
up
while
I
read
the
proclamation
and
stand
behind
me,
that
would
be
that
would
be
fabulous
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
annette
kuiper
from
the
minnesota
department
of
military
affairs
to
say
a
few
words,
but
we're
going
to
read
the
proclamation
first,
you
can
come
on
up
come
on
around
me.
The
camera's
right
where'd,
the
camera,
go
the
camera's
right
there.
A
And
whereas
the
formative
bloomington
beyond
the
yellow,
ribbon
group
has
provided
fiscal
and
physical
support
to
individual
veterans
and
their
families.
Meals
and
deployment
returned
and
returned
from
active
duty
recognition
ceremonies.
And
whereas
the
minnesota
department
of
veterans
affairs
has
notified
the
group
that
its
action
plan
has
been
approved
and
that
henceforth,
it
will
be
officially
recognized.
A
G
G
Thank
you
chief
for
being
a
member
to
help
us
with
especially
families
in
bloomington,
in
crisis,
military
or
veteran
families
in
crisis.
But
I
want
to
call
out
all
the
different
factions
that
are
here
tonight
from
best
buy
who's.
One
of
our
yellow
ribbon
companies
represented
here
the
other
two
yellow
ribbon.
Companies
that
are
on
the
steering
committee
are
mall
of
america
and
donaldson,
which
you
were
at
the
proclamation
to
proclaim
them
donaldson
corporation.
So
thank
you
also.
G
Our
local
unit
leader,
captain
osha
mcgillick,
is
we're
very
closely
tied
to
the
unit
within
the
armory,
as
well
as
key
support
partners
that
are
here
with
us.
The
american
legion.
Our
veterans
organization,
is
a
key
partner
for
us
in
the
community
to
provide
support
service
to
service
members
and
veterans,
and
then
I'd
also
like
to
introduce
molly
vogel
she's,
our
soldier
and
family
readiness
support
assistant
that
helps
with
anybody
currently
serving
please.
G
We
want
to
get
any
service
member
currently
serving
to
resources
that
are
available
within
through
molly's
organization
and
through
our
network
as
well.
We
also
have
members
at
large
members
that
help
us,
through
the
school
district
and
members
that
help
us
in
in
law
enforcement.
So
please
we
we
want.
H
G
The
word
out
in
the
community
that
we
have
a
network
of
support
for
our
service
members
veterans
and
military
families
and
we'd
love
for
people
to
join
our
steering
committee.
We
we
meet
the
third
tuesday
of
every
month
at
six
o'clock
right
now,
it's
virtual,
but
we
hope
to
get
back
to
the
armory
very
soon.
So
thank
you
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
and
just
re-showing
the
support
from
leadership
within
bloomington
for
our
yellow
ribbon
network.
Thank
you.
A
Absolutely,
and-
and
thank
you
and
thanks
to
all
of
you
for
making
this
happen.
This
is
I
I
appreciate
this
reaffirmation
to
the
community
that
there
is
this
support
available,
and
we
now
we
know
now
more
than
ever,
how
important
this
is
to
so
many
people
and
thank
you
for
your
work
and
for
making
this
all
happen.
A
H
H
A
H
H
A
H
A
Mayor
this
was
one
that
you
want.
Actually
I
held
it
that
is
correct
item
6.2
is
the
2022
city
council
meeting
calendar
and
I
wanted
to
bring
this
forward.
I
just
wanted
to
pull
this
out
just
to
have
a
short
discussion
among
council
members
here
for
those
of
you
who
are
watching
we,
we
we
tinkered
a
bit
with
the
council
calendar
not
too
long
ago
a
while
ago
about
a
year.
I
think
I
can't
even
recall
to
make
all
of
our
meetings
official
voting
meetings
in
the
past.
A
We
had
official
meetings
and
then
we
had
at
least
one
study
meeting
a
month
where
it
wasn't
a
voting
meeting.
It
was
an
opportunity
just
to
collect
information
and
so
on.
So
we
changed
to
the
meetings.
All
meetings
are
now
official
meetings,
regular
meetings
of
the
city
council
with
study
items
on
the
back
side
of
our
agenda,
an
opportunity
to
combine
the
two
and
it's
it
turns
out
to
be
three
sometimes
four
meetings
a
month
and
I
promised
when
we
moved
this
forward.
A
When
we
talked
about
this
originally,
I
promised
that
we
would
revisit
this
and
see
if
this
was
was
working.
If
people
were
happy
with
it,
if
they
thought
it
was
an
effective
way
to
manage
this,
if
it
was
effective
way
to
do
it,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
doing
now,
I
think
this
is
a
perfect
time
to
do
it
as
we
look
to
our
2022
council
schedule,
if
this
is
if
this
is
something
we
want
to
continue
doing,
thoughts,
ideas
on
this.
F
I'll
go
ahead
and
speak
up
here,
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
liked
about
having
the
the
kind
of
the
combined
is
that,
if
you
did
have
something
you
needed
to
cover,
we
don't
normally
run
into
the
problems
of
being
able
to.
You
know
we
don't
know
when
the
next
meeting
is
going
to
be.
So
I
had
liked
that,
because,
from
a
logistics
standpoint
trying
to
jump
over
that
study
meeting
that
that
has
been
a
little
bit
tricky
in
the
past
and
we've
had
a
number
of
occasions
with
that.
F
I
think
one
thing
that's
a
little
bit
challenging
that
I
found
with
the
setup
is
making
that
distinction
between
what
is
study
and
what
is
not
if
you're
from
the
general
public.
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
way
that
it
was,
but
I
think
that
serves
as
an
opportunity
for
us
to
really
kind
of
try
to
make
some
distinctions.
F
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
break
or
if
it's
something
that
kind
of
you
know
breaks
that
up,
but
I
think
we
really
need
to
from
a
public
perspective
if
everyone's
everything
seems
like
it
is
an
official
meeting
it
just
from
from
from
that.
I've
heard
lots
of
feedback
that
that
gets
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
confusing
and
also
can
be
a
little
bit
boring
to
watch
so,
but
we've
tried
to
keep
it
towards
the
end
of
our
end
of
our
meeting.
So
that's
the
feedback
that
I
have.
A
And
I
appreciate
that
councilmember
and
I
agree-
and
I
that's
on
me-
I
think,
because
I
think,
as
we
adopt
the
agenda,
I
think
I
could
do
a
better
job
of
describing
that
item.
Eight,
our
organizational
business
and
the
items
within
the
organizational
business
are
not
necessarily
more
often
than
not
there
once
or
twice,
perhaps,
but
more
often
than
not
they're
not
voting
items
they're,
not
items
for
public
hearings.
These
are
items
for
us
to
learn
more
from
the
from
staff
for
a
staff
report.
A
E
Council
member
lowman
asked
her
stated.
The
question
concern
thought
that
I
had
with
regards
to
the
study
session
versus
organizational
business.
So
I
think
that's
addressed
the
only
real
minor
item
that
I
had
when
I
looked
at
the
calendar
was
there's
a
meeting
scheduled
for
the
monday
before
thanksgiving,
which
may
be
difficult
for
some,
but
it
will
be
difficult
for
me
this
year,
but
we're
voting
on
next
year's
calendar.
So
that's
fine,
very
good.
A
I'll,
certainly
additional
feedback
anything
else
all
right.
Well,
I
I,
as
I
said,
I
promised
to
bring
it
up
when
we
made
this
change
and
wanted
an
opportunity
if
we
had
any
issues
with
us,
so
we'd
bring
them
up
and
talk
about
them.
But
if
everybody
is
fine
with
it,
then
I
will
move
item
6.2
and
move
approval
of
the
2022
city
council
meeting
calendar.
H
A
A
We
talked
about
this
in
a
previous
meeting.
I
think
it
was
kind
of
laid
out
in
front
of
us,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
I
think,
to
get
public
input
and
to
hear
a
bit
more
and
welcoming
back
brian
hansen.
Our
public
works
development,
development
coordinator
and
darren
rezak.
Our
civil
engineer,
working
on
this
good
evening,
gentlemen,
and
welcome.
J
Good
evening,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
council.
Members,
as
you
mentioned
we're
here
this
evening,
to
discuss
the
2022
payment
management
program,
darren
resack,
the
project
engineer,
we'll
start
our
presentation
and
I'll
jump
in
to
talk
about
some
of
the
assessment
portions
during
the
second
half
so
I'll
turn
over
to
darren
to
get
started
good
evening.
Mr
exec.
K
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
members
of
council,
I
got
a
couple
slides
here
to
go
over
our
current
pavement
management
program,
some
key
deadlines
that
we
hit
and
then
turn
it
over
to
brian,
for
the
remainder
of
the
remainder
of
the
presentation.
So
the
current
pavement
management
program
is
the
city's
proactive
effort
to
maintain
and
improve
the
340
lane
miles
or
excuse
me
center
lane
miles
of
roadway
that
we
have
in
bloomington.
K
The
current
pavement
management
program
includes
three
different
techniques:
the
reconstruct
project,
which
is
what
we
are
recommending
ordering
tonight.
The
mill
and
overlay
project
which
was
on
the
the
acknowledgment
of
the
streets,
was
on
the
consent
agenda
tonight
and
then
the
sealcoat
project,
which
is
completed
in-house
with
our
city
maintenance
staff.
K
So
in
order
to
correctly
group
these
streets
into
their
respective
projects,
the
city
uses
a
classification
system
called
a
pavement
condition,
index
or
pci.
So,
each
year,
city,
maintenance
staff
inspects
about
a
third
of
bloomington,
and
that
gives
us
an
up-to-date
scoring
in
order
to
rank
or
classify
the
the
different
roadways.
So
from
from
our
updated
classifications,
staff
is
able
to
put
together
our
future
project
maps,
which
we
project
about
five
years
into
the
future.
K
K
So
our
current
pmp
program
right
now,
the
the
reconstruct
street
listing
that
we
have
originally
sent
before
you
included
about
four
miles
of
a
reconstruct
project
included
in
the
agenda
packet.
We
are
also
recommending
the
removal
of
the
lindell
avenue
segment
from
106
to
the
south
terminus.
So
there's
a
couple
reasons
for
that.
So
originally,
when
the
staff
was
looking
at
reconstructing
that
segment
back
in
2019,
we
reached
out
to
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
who
maintained
the
boat
landing
on
the
south
end.
K
The
overlay,
like
I
said
that
was
on
the
acknowledging
the
street
list,
was
on
the
consent
agenda
tonight
and
the
seal
coat.
We
do
about
30
miles
in-house
every
year
so
and
then
you
can
see
the
goals
is
to
keep
the
pci
at
70
or
above
keep
our
pcis
of
the
35
less
than
35
to
under
10
percent,
and
then
just
historically
our
2020
pci
was
75
and
our
2021
pci
was
76..
So
we
feel
that
removing
the
lindell
piece
will
have
a
very
negligible
impact
on
our
overall
city
pci.
So.
K
And
just
the
breakdown
of
our
various
fundings
between
the
reconstruct
the
overlay
and
the
sealcoat,
and
then
our
trail
improvements,
so
the
biggest
difference
between
these
is
the
first
two
on
the
top
left
is
the
reconstruct
project.
We
do
have
assessments
on
that
as
well
as
we
do
issue
bonds
for
that
with
the
overlay
and
the
seal
coding
and
trails
comes
out
of
our
franchise
fees,
so.
K
And
just
some
some
dates
here
so
should
the
project
be
ordered,
we
would
work
internally.
City
staff
would
work
on
putting
together
our
construction
plans
and
specifications
with
the
plan
to
bid
the
project
as
early
as
we
can
in
spring
of
2022
contract
construct
it
in
summer
of
2022
and
then
brian
and
myself
would
be
come
back
again
in
fall
of
2022
for
the
special
assessment
public
hearing.
J
All
right,
thanks
darren,
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
now
about
the
assessment
portion
of
the
project.
So,
as
we've
talked
about
previously,
the
especially
the
city
of
special
assessment
policy
has
been
in
place
since
1962
and
the
basis
of
really
our
special
assessment
policy.
Is
that
adjusted
front
footage,
and
that
is
what
we
use
to
determine
the
assessments
for
properties
subject
to
an
assessment
with
an
improvement
project.
J
So
the
purpose
of
the
adjusted
front
footage
is
to
equate
all
lots,
regardless
of
their
shape
into
a
rectangular
lot,
to
determine
an
adjusted
front
footage
that
can
be
evenly
applied
throughout
all
different
types
of
parcels
throughout
the
city.
So,
as
darin
mentioned,
our
policy
has
been
in
place
in
62
and
we've
updated
it
as
as
needed
throughout
those
years
for
this
year's
project,
the
specific
neighborhood
of
the
bluffs
on
sands,
pier
was
unique
in
that
our
assessment
policy
does
a
good
job
of
contemplating
different
scenarios.
J
However,
this
typical
scenario
was
not
contemplated
in
our
assessment
policy.
To
date,
we
had
some
scenarios
that
were
very
similar,
but
none
that
actually
were
exactly
what
was
happening
in
that
area.
So
when
staff
put
together
the
estimated
assessments
to
be
sent
out
to
all
properties
which
is
required
by
state
statute,
we
had
to
use
the
tools
that
were
available
to
us
at
the
time
and
the
assessment
tool
that
we
used
or
the
calculation
tool
that
we
used.
J
We
knew
was
going
to
yield
assessments,
estimated
assessments
that
were
most
likely
higher
than
what
the
final
assessment
would
be
in
the
special
benefit
would
be
for
those
properties.
So
that
was
just
kind
of
a
function
of
what
we
had
available
at
the
time,
and
we
were
aware
that
that
would
probably
elicit
some
some
reaction
from
those
residents
and
it
did-
and
we
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
that.
So
that
was
good.
J
So,
as
darren
mentioned
before,
if
it's
staff's
recommendation
to
come
back
to
council
here
in
2022-
and
I
think
we
have
some
ideas
on
how
we
could
better
calculate
the
assessment
for
this
particular
neighborhood.
That
would
give
a
clearer
or
better
estimated
benefit
to
those
properties.
So,
like
I
said,
we're
recommending
removing
lindale
from
the
project
for
2022,
but
would
still
have
to
come
back
to
council
to
amend
our
assessment
policy
to
be
able
to
address
this
situation.
J
J
So
for
the
2022
project,
before
you
hear,
I
have
some
some
surfacing
and
curb
and
gutter
amounts
here.
I
will
note
that
the
the
amounts
I'm
showing
here
do
include
lindell
avenue
segment
right
now
as
part
of
your
agenda
item.
There
was
an
addendum
included
that
removed
the
lindell
avenue
segment.
So
there's
no
curb
and
gutter
being
assessed
for
the
lindell
avenue
segment,
so
those
numbers
would
remain
unchanged.
J
The
surfacing
would
change
a
bit
because
we
wouldn't
be
doing
quite
as
many
miles
of
surfacing,
so
the
total
cost
would
come
down
a
little
bit,
but
the
actual
adjustment
to
that
single
and
two
family
residential
rate
only
changes
about
a
dollar.
So
it's
46
dollars
per
foot
as
opposed
to
47
dollars
per
foot.
J
But,
as
you
can
see
here
for
the
full
project,
including
lindell
avenue
for
surfacing
came
in
at
just
under
over
6.5
million
dollars,
and
the
total
frontage
of
all
those
properties
that
were
subject
to
a
surfacing
assessment
came
in
just
over
35
000.
So
again,
taking
that
total
cost
for
the
improvement
divided
by
the
total
aff
we
get
our
100
rate
and
then
in
bloomington.
We
do
assess
at
a
25
rate
for
single
and
two
family
homes
and
a
50
rate
for
all
other
properties.
J
So
that's
where
you
can
see
the
47
per
foot
and
the
93
dollars
per
foot
and
then
doing
that
same
exercise
for
the
curb
and
gutter.
The
estimated
cost
of
that
improvement
came
into
just
over
1.6
million.
You
can
see
the
adjusted
front.
Footage
is
different
than
the
surfacing,
because
in
bloomington
the
policy
is
to
assess
for
curb
and
gutter
when
it's
initially
installed
on
the
street
so
for
street
segments
that
are
included
in
the
2022
pmp
that
already
have
curb
and
gutter
in
place.
J
Those
properties
would
not
be
subject
to
an
assessment
for
that
improvement
just
for
surfacing.
So
that's
why
you
see
a
difference
in
those
numbers
again
doing
that
total
cost
divided
by
the
total
aff
you
get
that
106
dollars
per
foot
for
the
100
rate
and
then
the
26.53
for
the
25
percent
and
50
rate.
Accordingly.
J
This
graphic
just
shows
how
our
policy
compares
to
other
cities
in
the
metro
area.
As
far
as
the
assessment
percentages,
as
I
said,
single
and
two
family
in
bloomington
are
at
that
25
percent
rate.
All
other
property
types
are
50
rate,
so
you
can
see
it
varies
from
city
to
city
how
they
do
that.
I
do
want
to
point
out.
J
So
for
the
assessment
payment
options,
if
the
project
were
to
be
ordered,
as
darren
mentioned,
we
would
go
ahead
and
bid
the
project
in
the
spring
and
then
we'd
be
back
before
the
council
in
the
fall
with
the
assessment
role
for
approval
of
the
council.
If
the
if
the
assessment
role
is
approved,
anyone
that's
subject
to
an
assessment
would
have,
until
november
29th
of
2022
to
pay
a
portion
of
a
hundred
dollars
up
to
the
total
amount
of
their
assessment,
and
no
interest
would
be
applied
to
that
after
november
29th.
J
Whatever
remaining
balance
is
there
for
that
assessment
that
would
automatically
get
rolled
onto
the
property
tax
statement
and
then
the
principal
will
be
spread
out
evenly
over
10
years,
with
interest
being
applied
annually
to
the
declining
principle.
So
if
a
property
owner
was
to
choose
to
not
pre-pay
any
portion
of
their
assessment
for
the
2022
pmp
project,
if
ordered
the
first
time,
they
would
see
a
bill
for
the
project
would
be
with
their
may
2023
property
tax
statement
after
the
property.
J
After
the
assessment
is
rolled
onto
the
property
tax
statement,
the
options
for
payment
are
to
pay
the
amount
due
with
that
particular
property
tax
bill
or
any
time
during
those
10
years.
You
could
pay
off
the
entire
remaining
amount
and
no
additional
interest
is
applied
at
that
point.
But
after
it's
on
the
property,
tax,
roll
or
property
tax
statement,
excuse
me
the
only
options
are
to
pay.
That
amount
is
due
or
the
total
amount.
There's
are.
No
additional
payments
will
be
accepted
by
the
county.
J
So
the
property
owner
contact,
we
had
our
informational
meeting
earlier
in
october
october
26th
with
the
residents
prior
to
that
we
sent
out
the
estimated
assessment
notice,
the
notice
of
public
hearing.
So
we
had
two
informational
meetings
over
its
public
works
building
which
were
well
attended
and
then,
after
the
meeting,
we've
had
some
contact
from
residents
via
email.
I've
had
some
phone
calls
and
then
I
did
reach
out
to
the
bluffs
on
sans
pierre
context,
who
had
been
in
contact
with
us
at
those
public
meetings
to.
J
J
So
with
that,
we
do
have
a
recommended
motion
for
your
your
consideration
this
evening
and
then,
if
the
project
is
ordered,
as
we
mentioned,
we
would
be
back
before
you
in
october
of
2022
with
the
assessment
role
and
ask
for
your
recommendation
on
the
the
levying
of
the
assessments
at
that
time.
At
this
time,
I
think
we'll
be
happy
to
hit
any
questions.
A
F
J
To
future
years
sure
mr
mayor
councilmember
lohman
what
you
speak
of
with
keeping
the
assessment.
The
same
is
typically
what
the
last
this
past
year.
What
we
did
is
when
the
project
was
actually
ordered,
the
assessment
rate
was
set,
and
then
we
deferred
the
or
delayed
the
levying
of
that
stuff
until
the
next
year
due
to
construction
impacts
and
the
ability
of
them
to
have
that
constructed
this
year.
J
F
So
I
did
want
to
just
make
sure
we
clarified
that
so
that
folks
understood
that
that
if
we
move
it
from
this,
this
year's
project
to
another
year
that
that
there
could
be
increases
from
this
year
to
the
next
year.
So
there's
no
illusion
or
any
confusion
around
that
that
that
may
occur
with
that,
and
I
think
the
the
rationale
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
But
maybe
some
folks
would
speak
to
that.
The
second
item
that
I
wanted
to
just
ask.
F
F
To
be
a
little
more
specific,
I
know
there's
some
landscaping
that
was
going
to
be
done
down
there
around
the
lindell
area
and
there
was
some
a
promise
to
get
that
work
done.
Maybe
you
don't
necessarily
know
the
staff
person
who
knows
it,
but
I
was
told
that
you
guys
may
be
able
to
speak
to
that,
not
sure
if
somebody
could
speak
to
that,
because
I
know
there's
some
work,
that's
being
done
down
there.
I
know
folks
may
be
interested
in
that
it's
a
little
bit
tangential.
F
L
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
councilmember,
lowman
mndot
is
working
on
putting
together
separate
contracts
to
do
their
landscaping.
Their
typical
process
is
a
little
bit
different
than
the
cities
process,
where
we
bid
our
construction
and
our
restoration.
All
in
one
contract,
mndot
does
them
as
two
separate
contracts,
and
so
they
have
recently
completed
the
35w
river
bridge
construction
contract.
So
they
are
working
on
the
restoration
contract.
Now,
as
we
speak,
and
we
have.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
Just
a
quick
clarification
follow
up
on
the
question.
Councilmember
lohman
asked
about
mndot.
There
was
a
public
comment
that
we
received
in
our
packet.
With
regards
to
that,
maybe
we
received
some
funding
in
order
to
redo
this
street,
and
maybe
that
just
relates
to
the
landscaping,
but
did
we
receive
any
funding?
What's
the
status
of
that?
Can
you
just
clarify
that,
for
me.
J
Yeah,
mr
mayor
council
member,
we
did,
the
city
did
receive
funding
from
ames
construction
for
the
use
of
windall
avenue
during
the
construction
of
the
35w
bridge,
and
those
funds
would
be
earmarked
for
when
the
lindale
avenue
segment
is
reconstructed.
Those
will
be
put
towards
the
surfacing
cost
of
that.
So,
even
though
we're
not
recommending
inclusion
of
lindell
avenue
with
the
2022
pmp
when
that
segment
does
get
included
in
the
future
pmp,
those
funds
will
be
applied
to
that
surfacing
improvement
to
lower
the
overall
cost
for
everyone
involved
in
that
project.
E
Thank
you
and
then
my
other
question
was
with
regards
to
storm
water.
It
looked
like
the
cost
for
the
storm
water
went
down
because
the
lindale
avenue
portion,
so
I
assume
there
was
some,
maybe
230,
235
000
for
some
storm
water.
There
is-
and
I
know
we've
had
issues
with
particularly
a
multi-family
facility
just
north
of
there.
Will
that
help
with
that
or
what
is
this
just
taking
care
of
older
infrastructure?
K
There
there's
also
a
culvert
down
there
right
before
the
the
teardrop
turnaround
and
included
in
the,
and
there
was
a
budget
for
replacing
that
we're
not
sure
if
that
will
need
to
be
replaced
or
not
we're
still
investigating
that
right
now,
but
that
was
the.
That
was
why
you
saw
a
reduction
in
the
stormwater
was
removing
the
lindell
avenue
stormwater
as
part
of
the
overall
project.
F
A
I
I
The
issue
that
was
brought
up
to
me
is
that
some
of
the
town
homes
are
twoplex
and
then
some
are
threeplex
so
then
assessed
at
different
rates,
which
doesn't
seem
quite
fair,
and
so
is
that
one
of
the
issues
that
will
be
addressed
as
you
kind
of
reconsider
how
our
policy
will
apply
or
if
there's
an
addendum
to
the
policy.
Yes,.
J
Mr
mayor
councilmember
carter-
yes,
that
was
one
thing
that
we
looked
at
before
we
sent
out
the
assessment
note
or
the
estimated
assessment
notices,
and
we
had
the
same
questions
because
properties
that
were,
for
all
intents
and
purposes
similar
very
similar,
but
we
have
included
a
duplex
versus
the
triplex,
and
our
current
policy
are
looked
at
at
a
different
assessment
rate.
So
that
would
be
something
that
we
would
be
bringing
back
to
council
as
we
make
those
you
know,
adjustments
to
our
current
special
assessment
policy.
Yes,.
A
See
no
hands
going
up,
and
so
with
that.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Don't
go
far,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
questions
for
you
as
we
get
on
into
this
here.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
7.1
right
now:
public
hearing
to
approve
the
feasibility
study
and
order
the
2022
pavement
management
program
street
reconstruction
project.
A
B
First
thing
was:
I
had
specifically
asked
the
question
about
the
reimbursement
from
ames
construction,
and
the
word
that
I
heard
back
was
that
those
funds,
while
they
would
be
applied
to
the
project
in
the
year
in
which
lindell
is
reconstructed,
they
would
not
offset
lindell.
Specifically,
they
would
be
part
of
the
entire
project.
B
B
Second
thing
is,
as
we
consider
the
approach
for
special
assessments,
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
us
in
the
community
who
would
welcome
the
opportunity
for
input
as
that
policy
is
being
developed
rather
than
having
it
developed
in
isolation
from
the
community.
So
I
would
put
myself
forward.
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
other
residents
in
the
neighborhood
who
would
be
more
than
happy
to
help
represent
our
community
as
that
policies
developed.
A
Knowing
knowing
more
than
a
few
people
in
that
community,
I
know
there
are
not
a
lot
of
shrinking
violets
in
that
community,
so
I
think
you
could
say
that
I
think
there
would
be
a
lot
of
folks
who
would
be
willing
to
to
be
part
of
the
process
and-
and
we
will
definitely
take
that
into
consideration
all
right.
Yes,
thank
you.
B
Well,
I
think
our
request
would
be
that
that
be
devoted
specifically
to
that
individual
segment,
rather
than
just
being
applied
broadly
to
all
of
the
streets
that
are
in
under
reconstruction
that
year,
since
it
was
specific,
the
reimbursement
was
specific
to
the
damage
done
to
that
street.
I
understand
that
makes
sense
to
me
thanks.
A
A
B
My
name
is
ray
navarro.
I
also
live
on
bluffs
on
sans
pierre.
My
address
is
10721
lindoblus
trail
and
mr
mueller
nathan
just
commented
basically
on
the
two
things
that
I
think
the
majority
of
the
owners
in
that
development
are
asking.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
council
for
taking
and
also
thank
ryan
and
darren
for
your
recommendation.
They
obviously
heard
us
loud
and
clear,
which
was
kind
of
hard
to
avoid
at
the
ethiopia
at
the
earlier
session.
B
A
A
A
A
B
A
A
We'll
get
in
just
a
moment
here.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
have
an
opportunity
to
get
mr
councilmember
beloga
back,
if
we
could
see
if
we
could
do
that,
I
think
this
is
a
reasonable
compromise,
especially
in
regards
to
lindale
avenue.
I
appreciate
the
concern,
but
I
appreciate
the
work
the
staff
put
into
this
and
the
concerns
brought
forward
by
the
neighborhood.
I
think
it
makes
perfect
sense.
I
also
think
that
I,
every
year
we
do
this.
F
I
guess
the
only
thing
I
would
say
mayor
is.
I
certainly
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
to
pull
this
back
and
to
find
a
way
to
to
basically
to
try
to
have
this
opportunity
for
us
to
have
this
conversation
about
what
this
looks
like
now.
Hopefully,
we'll
come
forward
with
a
a
a
more
equitable
solution.
With
that
that
conversation,
I
also
heard
that
that
folks
would
like
to
participate
and
be
able
to
be
involved
with
that
process.
F
They
may
want
to
be
a
part
of
of
that
discussion,
so
I'm
just
hoping
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
that,
and
I
do
find
it
interesting
to
see
that
edina
has
changed
there
and
that's
maybe
a
maybe
a
separate
issue,
but
it'd
be
interesting
to
go
down
that
pathway
of
you
know
it
was
19,
you
know
60
or
so.
When
we
looked
at
this
assessment,
maybe
it
makes
some
sense
to
go
back
and
and
have
a
more
broader
look
at
this
in.
H
Thank
you
mayor.
I
I
just
really
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
staff
as
well
and
and
for
the
folks
in
the
community
who
are
interested
in
participating
in
this
process
and
and
having
your
voices
heard.
You
know
we.
We
get
a
lot
of
public
comment
about
a
lot
of
different
things
at
council
meetings.
It's
rare
that
we
have
folks
beating
down
our
doors
to
talk
about
special
assessments.
H
It
just
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
and
I
you
know,
I
think,
as
we
talked
to
about
sort
of
the
the
costs
of
living,
the
cost
of
being
part
of
of
our
community
here
in
bloomington.
That's
one
way
to
really
show
that
we
sort
of
we
are
all
in
this
together.
So
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that
and
and
say
thank
you
to
to
everyone
involved.
A
If
not,
I
would
look
for
action
and
I
would
also
make
a
point
because
this
is
an
assessment.
We
need
four-fifths
votes
from
the
council,
so
this
would
take
all
six
members
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
to
push
this
through.
Just
to
to
be
clear
on
that,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
was
clarified
clear
on
that.
I
wanted
to
clarify
that,
so
I
would
look
for
action.
Councilmember,
lowman,
I'd.
F
Be
happy
to
do
that.
Sorry,
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
I
was
talking
so
long.
I
was
hoping
that
another
member
would
join
with
that
being
said,
mayor,
I'd,
go
ahead
and
move
to
adopt
a
resolution
ordering
the
2022-101
pavement
management
program,
pmp
street
reconstruction
project
street
reference
numbers,
1-3
dash,
5-12.
H
A
We
have
a
motion
by
council
member
loma
and
the
second
by
council
member
coulter
to
approve
the
feasibility
report
and
adopt
the
resolution
ordering
the
2022
pavement
management
program,
street
reconstruction
project,
and
I'm
looking
to
ms
manderschat.
I
think,
I
believe,
is
getting
clarification
on
the
question
that
I'm
going
to
ask
here.
The
last
two
bullets
here:
do
they
need
to
be
involved
or
included
in
this
current
motion,
or
can
they
be
involved
in
a
second
motion
to
clarify
things.
A
Fussy
aye
motion
carries
6-0.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
much
to
staff.
Thank
you
to
the
residents
for
your
input
on
this
and
for
for
helping
helping
us
to
shape
this
up
a
little
bit.
I
appreciate
it
and
appreciate
your
work
on
this
and
you'll
be
hearing
from
us.
So
thanks
much
with
that,
we
are
done
with
our
public
input
for
this
evening.
So
risa.
I
think
we
can
let
you
go.
Thank
you
for
your
help
this
evening,
but
we
are
done
with
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
So
there
will
be
no
public
input
here,
we're
not
taking
votes,
we're
we're
getting
information
from
staff
on
a
couple
of
items
and
we
will
start
with
item
8.1,
which
is
we're
going
to
take
a
look
and
have
a
discussion
about
our
public
participation
in
our
budget
process
that
we
have
underway
right
now
and
kyrie
carlson.
Our
budget
manager
is
here
to
lead
us
through
that
good
evening.
Welcome.
M
Good
evening,
marion
council,
thank
you.
Yes,
we
would
like
to
revisit
the
conversation
about
public
participation
and
the
budget
process
that
we
started
in
the
summer
in
july,
and
before
I
get
into
the
slides
of
this
presentation,
I
just
want
to
give
a
little
history
or
background
about
public
participation
in
the
budget
process
really
before
last
year.
M
The
main
public
participation
consisted
of
the
truth
and
taxation
public
hearing
in
december,
but
then
of
course,
last
year
that
all
changed
with
the
pandemic
and
the
challenges
that
the
pandemic
brought
to
the
budget
and
the
council,
of
course,
appointed
a
community
budget
advisory
committee
of
residents
and
pointed
them
to
address
those
budget
challenges
and
to
recommend
budget
reduction
options,
and
we
had
several
virtual
public
engagement
sessions
that
were
open
to
the
public
and
all
of
those
meetings
were
also
in
here.
They
were
televised.
M
M
So
that
was
really
an
intense
effort
that
we
had
last
year,
that
started
like
in
june,
and
they
met
every
week
until
about
october,
a
lot
of
hours
put
in
by
that
committee
and
by
staff
and-
and
it
was
a
lot
of
success,
so
I
think
seeing
all
that
what
we
can
do
and
being
getting
public
participation
and
being
very
transparent.
We
wanted
to
continue
that
and
so
for
tonight.
M
So
let's
talk
about
what
we
did
this,
what
we've
done
this
year,
so
we
created
a
a
new
budget
page
and
it's
very
easy
to
access.
If
you
go
to
the
city
of
bloomington
website
right
there
on
that
home
page,
there
is
a
link
for
the
city
budget,
and
so
there
anytime
we
talk
about
budget
at
council
meetings.
We
we
put
links
to
that
and
we
queue
it
up.
So
you
can
go
right
to
that
section
and
watch
it
live.
M
We
have
all
the
presentation,
materials,
detailed
budget
information
that
we
provide
to
the
council.
We
have
a
link
to
the
let's
talk:
bloomington
budget
project
site.
We
have
all
the
budget
books
there,
it's
kind
of
a
one-stop
shop
to
get
anything
about
the
budget
and
it's
updated
regularly
and
also
any
community
budget
information
sessions
that
we've
had
we
advertise
those
there.
M
So
that's
something
new
that
we've
started
this
year,
it's
sort
of
before
we
had
the
community
community
budget
advisory
committee.
You
know
page-
and
this
sort
of
grew
from
that
and
it's
something
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
next
slide.
So
then
we
had
some
community
budget
engagement
sessions
and
we
had
two
in
august.
M
One
was
a
virtual
session
that
was
recorded,
there's
a
little
screenshot
of
it
there
and,
of
course,
we
recorded
that
we
put
it
on
that
budget
website
and
then
we
also
had
something
during
on
a
wednesday
night,
where
we
had
the
mid
week,
music
and
market,
and
so
we
had
something
set
up.
Where
we
had
an
information
table.
We
talked
to
people,
we
advertised
that
as
an
in-person
event,
and
we
did
not
have
a
lot
of
attendees
for
those
events
actually
for
the
zoom
session.
We
only
had
a
couple
people
registered.
M
No
one
actually
came
on
to
that
call,
so
there
didn't
seem
to
be
as
much
excitement
or
draw
to
the
budget
as
there
were
last
year,
but
we
went
ahead
and
we
just
recorded
it
because
we
were
all
set
up
to
do
it
in
case
anybody
came
on
and
then
we
did
publish
that
on
our
website
and
we
do
have
some
views.
People
watch
that
we
also
put
the
presentation
slides
out
there
with
that
information,
so
of
course,
for
the
midweek
music.
M
The
event
that
we
did
with
that
we
did
see
people
because
people
were
already
coming
to
that
event,
which
was
very
popular.
It
was
a
nice
night.
We
did
have
people
stopped
by.
We
gave
them
information.
I
think
we
had
one
person
that
came
specifically
to
talk
to
us
that
had
questions
prepared,
and
that
was
that
was
great.
So
we
did
have
some
more
interaction
with
the
community
seems
to
help
if
there's
already
something
going
on,
that's
bringing
people
in.
M
M
We
received
45
prize
entries
and
in
order
to
register
to
win
a
prize,
you
had
to
go
to
the
city
budget
website.
So,
along
with
encouraging
residents
to
attend
these
sessions,
we
kind
of
publicized
that
we
have
a
budget
website,
so
they
had
to
go
to
that
and
educate
that
educate
residents
that
it
existed.
M
Another
one
was
a
behind
the
scenes
taping
of
the
council
minute
with
the
mayor,
so
so
that
did
encourage
some
more
people
to
attend
some
of
these
sessions.
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
we
did
have
another
thing
we
did
so,
instead
of
just
me
being
the
one
that
was
presenting
information
and
having
questions
and
answers
and
getting
feedback
from
the
community.
The
the
mayor
and
the
fire
chief
graciously
agreed
to
be
the
presenters
and
that
did
have,
I
think,
more
more
excitement
about
that
too.
A
Just
signed
her
up
for
justin.
Yes,
yes,
sorry,
if
I
could
please
so
you
recorded
all
these
things
and
granted
only
five
people
showed
up
for
the
discussion
or,
however
many
do.
We
have
a
count
on
how
many
people
actually
watched
that
you
know
accessed
it
through
the
city
website
and
actually
sat
and
watched
the
presentations.
M
B
M
M
So
this
slide
here
was
the
same
slide
we
had
in
july,
and
we
were
talking
about
two
different
options
going
forward.
We
had
recommended
for
this
year.
We
were
going
to
be
doing
community
engagement.
We
weren't
going
to
start
off
with
a
budget
advisory
committee
right
away,
so
these
options
were
for
next
year
and
going
forward.
M
That
was
an
option
that
we
talked
about
back
in
july
and
then
on
the
next
slide.
A
different
option
was
rather
than
having
a
standing
committee
that
finance
and
our
community
outreach
and
engagement
division
would
go
out
into
the
community
and
do
kind
of
robust
community
engagement,
and
we
would
focus
on
including
diverse
community
partner
organizations,
some
of
like
what
we
did
last
year
with
a
2021
budget
and
that
we
would
organize
several
in-person
and
virtual
public
engagement
sessions.
M
We
overwhelmingly
heard
that
more
community
input
is
important.
We
don't
want
to
go
back
to
how
we
were
when
we
just
had
public.
You
know
meetings,
but
that
the
count
you
know
the
council
meetings
where
the
discussed
budget
and
the
truth
and
taxation
hearing,
but
that
was
pretty
much
it.
I
think
we're
we
want
to
be
more
transparent
to
that
and
get
more
public
input
and
that
there
was
an
emphasis
that
the
overall
budget
tax
levy
is
ultimately
responsible
for
the
council
that
maybe
a
formalized
see
back
is
not
necessary.
M
Maybe
we
use
it
as
a
check-in
mechanism
or
if
there
is
a
standing
committee
kind
of
like
what
we
had
last
year,
that
gives
input
on
the
entire
budget
that
they
should
have.
You
know
longer
terms,
so
that
there's
some
continuity
and
they,
as
they
learn
things
that
they
have
an
option
to
take
that
from
year
to
year.
M
So
those
are
kind
of
the
highlights
from
what
we
summarize
so
based
on
that
this
is
what
we
are
recommending
and
would
like
to
get
your
input
on
and
discussion
on,
and
so
what
we're
thinking
is
for
every
year.
You
know
to
kind
of
have
some
some
set
community
budget
engagement,
so
we're
we're
going
to
keep
our
you
know
website.
That's
been
very
popular,
it's
an
easy
place
for
people
to
go
and
look
and
get
information
without
having
to
go
to
multiple
places.
M
M
I
think
you
know
continuing
to
have
the
both
a
virtual
and
in-person
event
and
getting
people
having
people
more
familiar
with
that
is
and
that
they
expect
that.
Having
that
as
an
option,
I
think
is
good,
and
maybe
we
can
look
into
more
creative
ways
to
entice
people
to
come
and
get
engaged
in
those
and
then
to
be
more
focused,
have
a
more
focused
effort
on
our
to
include
diverse
community
partner
organizations.
M
M
M
So
they
know
upfront
what
it
is
that
they're
going
to
be
weighing
in
on
and
on
this
next
slide.
There's
that
iap2
spectrum
of
participation
that
we
refer
to
a
lot
and
on
this
graph,
this
graphic,
you
know
the
blue,
represents
the
city
and
orange-
represents
the
public
and
so
similar
to
a
committee,
a
community
budget
advisory
committee.
M
A
community
budget
advisory
task
force
would
still
fall
under
that
collaborate,
level
of
the
public
participation
spectrum,
and
so
that
means
there's
a
clear
purpose
or
a
task
that
would
be
defined
to
address
the
decision
that
you
want
them
to
make,
and
then
the
recommendations
that
would
be
developed
by
this
task
force
would
hopefully
be
incorporated
into
decisions.
You
know
to
the
maximum
extent
that's
possible,
and
so
the
decision
makers,
which
would
be
the
council,
would
agree
like
on
this.
M
So
it's
gonna
be
a
tight
timeline,
but
I
think
it
would
be
better
to
do
this
early
in
the
process
rather
than
later
so.
We'd
still
want
to
do.
Applications
have
them
due
in
december
so
next
month
and
interviews
in
january,
but
have
them
work
february
through
april
and
then
have
a
recommendation
in
may.
M
If
there
is
something
if
there's
something
you
want
them
to
focus
on,
so
that
as
the
whole
budget
process
kicks
off
in
may
with
city
staff,
they
have
that
going
into
it
instead
of
the
city
staff
starting
one
way,
and
then
a
task
force
coming
in
here
at
the
same
time,
and
then
it
all
coming
together.
So
it
would
be
front,
ended
at
the
beginning
and
not
the
entire
year.
M
M
M
Would
you
want
there
to
be
a
council
liaison
on
this
task
force
and
who
would
you
want
to
have
select
the
committee
members?
Would
it
be
the
council
would
interview
and
select
them,
or
would
you
want
staff
for
a
combination,
and
would
you
want
there
to
be
a
chair
or
co-chairs,
so
those
are
just
kind
of
some
of
the
questions
that
we
had
so
with
that
I
will
stop
and
leave
it
to
you
and
see
if
there's
questions
or
discussion
on
how
you'd
like
us
to
go
forward.
A
A
F
Let's
help
that
lead
off,
I
did
have
a
question
before
I
responded
to
some
of
your
your
questions
here
on
on
page
9
or
201,
whichever
one
you
want
to
use.
You
got
this.
The
c
bat
timeline
was
the
idea
behind
that
to
just
every
year
recruit
people,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
we
actually
seat
them.
Or
was
it
the
idea
that
we
may
have
some
ideas
this
year
and
we
want
to
recruit
for
those
people.
M
Mayor
councilmember
lowman
it
we
would
do
this
timeline.
I
think
first
we'd
start
to
see
if
you
wanted.
If
there
was
a
specific
issue
that
you
would
like
a
task
force
to
look
into,
and
if
there
was
for
this
upcoming
budget,
then
we
would
start
the
process
of
applications
and
interviews.
If
there
wasn't,
then
we
would
not
does
that
make
sense.
F
Okay,
yeah.
No,
I
I
appreciate
that,
so
I
guess.
If
there
was
an
issue,
I
think
we
one
of
them
we
covered
today
I
did
I
turned
to
you
mayor
and
I
said
you
know
it
would
be
interesting
to
to
have
a
deeper
look
in
terms
of
those
those
assessments,
especially
with
how
edina
has
you
know,
changed
their
their
process
and
it's
my
understanding.
I
think
councilman
carter
had
mentioned
that
richfield
may
be
already
having
a
different
process
already.
F
But
I
do
think
that
you
know
that
these
budget
decisions
are
our
policy
decisions
and
so
the
the
greater
understanding
that
people
have,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
I
like
with
this
presentation.
The
hybrid
model
really
does,
and
I
know
we're
struggling
to
get
people
engaged
with
this
and
I
think
over
time,
we're
going
to
get
better
at
doing
that.
But
I
think
that's
I
think
for
me.
F
You
know
I've
got
my
own
preference
in
terms
of
of
that,
because
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
word
deeper
understanding,
obviously
to
me
that
it
probably
means
a
standing
committee
that
goes
from
year
to
year
and
those
folks
build
that
experience
up.
But
I
do
think
that
there
is
some
opportunity
for
a
task
force.
That's
out
there
to
kind
of
focus
in
on
one
particular
item
and
really
kind
of
dive
into
that
and
then
bring
more
people
involved.
F
So
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
my
first
piece,
so
I
think
there's
there's
a
there's
an
opportunity
for
for
both
things
to
to
kind
of
happen
there.
So
I
like
this
recommendation
that
staff
has
had
put
forward-
and
I,
like
the
the
larger
group
piece,
the
broader
kind
of
understanding
and
trying
to
get
a
deeper
understanding
out
there.
Folks
and
then
just
secondarily-
and
I
know
we
have
a
task
force
here
but
I'll
I'll
advocate
for
the
for
the
standing
committee.
F
So
I
do
think
it
does
make
some
sense
when
we
get
ready
to
dive
into
some
items
from
year
to
year.
Having
that
that
previous
year's
experience
on
the
budget,
no
matter
what
that
item
is
that
we
ask
from
a
task
force
standpoint,
you're
just
going
to
be
able
to
grasp
that,
and
I
think
it
will
from
a
staffing
perspective,
reduce
some
of
the
need
to
have
to
meet
every
single
week,
and
maybe
it's
every
other
week
or
maybe
it's
you
know
two
times
a
month
or
something
like
that.
F
I
just
think
from
a
from
a
long-term
sustainability.
I
just
I
I
worry
by
having
a
task
force
and
doing
that
every
year.
Well,
what
kind
of
you
know?
What
do
you
call
it?
A
you
know
in
the
hotel
industry,
the
occupancy
is
too
high
for
our
staff,
we're
working
hard
on
that
kind
of
thing.
So
that's
my
thought.
My
preference
would
be
the
standing
committee
over
the
task
force,
but
I'm
open
to
either
one
so.
H
Thank
you.
Well,
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
of
two
minds
about
this.
I
mean
I.
I
think
this
is
a
good
recommendation.
I
I
understand
I
you
know
I
I
advocated
for
a
something
that
more
closely
resembled
the
process
we
had
last
year
and
I
I
was
clearly
in
the
minority
in
that
discussion
and
that's
fine,
I'm
kind
of
used
to
that
at
this
point
in
my
life,
but
I
you
know
I
I
was
thinking
about
it.
H
H
It
was
a
lot
of
work
for
staff
and
for
the
members-
and
you
know
those
are
important
conversations
and
and
conversations
that
we
as
a
council
should
be
having,
but
I
would
be
a
little
bit
concerned
about
burnout
for,
for
both
staff
and
and
frankly,
the
broader
community,
and
my
my
worry
would
be
that
if
we
did
that
you
know
after
a
few
years,
we
might
not
have
as
many
folks
who
would
be
interested
in
doing
that
much
work.
And
so
I
think
this
is
a
good
compromise.
H
I
think
this
does
allow
for
that
kind
of
process,
and
I,
I
think
part
of
the
reason
I
think
that
we
had
we
saw
so
much
interest
last
year
was
because
that
process
played
out,
because
there
were
the
meetings
for
folks
to
watch
and
the
conversations
had
and
and
questions
that
came
from
that
process.
So
I
think
that
is,
that
is
still
really
really
valuable
and
I
I
think,
to
that
extent
you
know
every
other
every
couple
of
years,
or
so
I
think
kind
of
as
a
a
check-in
or,
as
you
know,
hey.
H
H
What
we
don't
do
and-
and
you
know
where
does
where
do
the
tax
dollars
go-
that
we
we
spend
on
those
things
and
I
think
it'd
be
really
helpful
to
have
that
conversation
as
a
community.
The
other
thought
again,
this
is
just
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
have
not
talked
to
anyone
else
about
this,
but
you
know,
having
adopted
our
park
system
master
plan,
I
think
parks
and
recreation
would
be
an
interesting
topic
to
look
at
as
well.
H
How
many
members,
I
think
we
need
to
keep
it
small.
I
you
know
nine
was
a
a
workable
number
for
the
committee
last
year,
but
that's
about
as
big
as
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
it
and
I
think
ideally,
five
or
seven
as
I
think
it
was
council.
Member
logan
pointed
this
out
when
we
first
discussed
the
the
budget
advisory
committee.
You
want
an
odd
number
of
votes
so
that
there
don't
have
to
be
any
tie
breakers
or
anything
like
that.
H
As
far
as
a
council
liaison.
The
thought
I
would
have
frankly
is
that,
if,
if
we
have
a
council
liaison
at
all
that
that
person
would
serve
as
sort
of
an
exoficial
member
someone
to
just
sort
of
be
there
and
and
participate
in
the
conversation,
but
wouldn't
necessarily
cast
a
vote
and
then
related
to
the
last
question.
That
person
could
potentially
serve
as
a
chair
as
well
in
that
sort
of
impartial
way.
H
H
I
it
may
it
may
make
more
sense
for
to
do
what
we
did
with
the
budget
advisory
committee
and
have
the
mayor
make
the
appointments
and
the
council.
I
don't
know
if
we
confirmed
them
per
se,
but
that
you
know
the
council
weighs
in
in
in
in
that
way.
I
think
that
just
makes
a
lot
of
sense
in
terms
of
what
we're
looking
at
and
the
kind
of
experience
that
we
want
represented.
So
those
are
those
are
my
thoughts
overall.
H
I
think
this
is
a
good
recommendation
and
I
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
not
putting
too
much
on
staff
and
and
on
the
community,
but
you
know
again.
I
think
that
process
was
just
so
so
valuable
in
moving
the
conversation
forward
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
find
a
way
to
try
and
replicate
that
piece
of
it
as
best
we
can.
A
So
speaking
of
replication,
I'm
actually
back
a
couple
slides
the
slide
of
every
year,
community
budget
engagement
and
like
ideas
or
thoughts
or
feedback
on
the
notion
of,
in
addition
to
what
we've
talked
about
here.
When
we
had
our,
when
we
had
our
town
halls,
the
places
were
full
and
now
granted.
It
was
a
different
time.
I
mean
it,
there
wasn't
a
worldwide
pandemic
and
I
think
they
were
very,
very
well
advertised
and
it
was
kind
of
different
that
it
hadn't
happened
in
a
while.
A
However,
many
we
would
like
to
do
because
I
think
they
worked
and
I
think
they
would
be
well
received
again.
I
mean
I
could
be
wrong.
You
know,
as
I
said,
it
was
a
couple
years
ago
now,
and
things
have
changed
significantly,
but
I
think
that
would
be
one
thing
we
want
to
consider
in
in
terms
of
our
every
year
budget
engagement,
I
know
it's,
it
gets
to
be
a
lot,
but
I
think
it's
a
worthwhile.
A
It
is
it's
time
well
spent,
I
think,
and
so
then,
in
your
the
notion
of
the
the
task
force,
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea.
It
doesn't.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
do
it
every
year,
but
I
just
don't
think
that's
feasible
just
from
a
work
or
work
plan
standpoint,
but
I
think
to
do
this
occasionally
to
try
and
find
a
specific
issue
or
to
do
a
check-in.
A
A
M
A
So
one
thing
maybe
to
consider-
and
again
I
don't
know
how
this
all
works,
but
considering
the
the
larger
big
picture
discussion
that
we
need
to
have
with
our
fire
department.
Perhaps
that
might
be
the
thing
to
focus
on
this
year.
We've
got
a
lot
of
big
decisions.
We've
got
a
big
discussion
that
we
need
to
have.
Perhaps
this
task
force
can
frame
up
the
issue
for
a
larger
community
discussion.
On
this
I
mean,
would
that
make
sense.
A
B
A
A
I
I
We
had
a
very
specific
goal,
a
very
specific
need
and
they
fulfilled
their
purpose
and
then
they
were
done
and
that's
what
my
understanding
is
is
what
we'd
be
we'd
be
doing
a
very
similar
process
again,
but
without
kind
of
that
deep
dive
and
they
wouldn't
be
looking
at
the
entire
budget.
So
again,
my
concern,
I
guess,
is
a
learning
curve
and
I
just
you
know
if
we
have
different
people
from
year
to
year
participating.
I
just
I
think
it's
a
really
heavy
lift
and
again
my
concern
would
be
that
they
don't
have.
I
I
So
I
don't
want
to
say,
that's
the
you
know,
that's
what
I'm
recommending
recommending,
but
is
that
a
way
that
we
could
then
more
sustainably
also
fund
some
of
our
other
infrastructure-like
sidewalks?
So
those
are
my
comments
now
I
can.
I
can
answer
the
specific
questions
too,
if
you'd
like,
but
I
I
can
pause
there
too,.
M
So
mayor,
council
members,
we
could
bring
back
a
resolution
to
to
form
a
task
force
for
for
next
year
with
some
guidelines
you
know
laid
out,
and
we
could
also
I'm
sure
the
city
manager
could
provide
some
information
or
we
can
gather
information
just
to
kind
of
hone
in
on
some
of
these
questions
and
what
you'd
like
us
to
do.
But,
ideally,
if
we
want
to
go
forward
with
this,
I
think
we
want
to
start
pretty
soon
to
get
it
going
so
that
we
could
start
right
away
in
january.
A
How
about
if,
based
on
the
information
you've
heard
tonight
and
some
of
the
recommendations
you
do
just
that
you
kind
of
put
the
process
together,
okay
and
think
about
that,
maybe
put
a
resolution
together
and
then
perhaps
to
have
the
staff
consider
the
couple
of
different
options
that
have
been
brought
up
here.
What
makes
the
most
sense
in
terms
of
what
what
can
people
get
their
heads
around
in
three
months
time?
A
What
can
what
what
issues
are
we
hoping
to
accomplish
what
would
be
most
helpful
in
the
budget
process
and
ultimately
back
to
the
to
the
council
and
maybe
make
a
recommendation
in
terms
of
what
we've
talked
about
or
if
there's
any
others
you've
heard
a
couple
three
recommendations
here
from
the
council:
maybe
there's
something
else
that
the
staff
is
thinking.
That
would
make
more
sense.
E
Just
a
comment:
if
I
could
quick
mayor,
please
so
yeah,
I
appreciate
the
conversation
here
and
I
like
your
idea
of
the
town
halls
going
back
to
that
when
it's
an
appropriate
time
to
do
that,
I
thought
those
brought
people
out
and
the
opportunity
to
connect
and
hear
from
people,
I
think,
is
important.
I
I
gotta
be
honest.
E
With
regards
to
the
task
force,
I
kind
of
feel
like
we
had
an
amazing
process
last
year
because
of
a
very
specific
situation
and
now
we're
just
trying
to
force
a
reason
to
have
a
task
force
going
forward,
and
I
mean
when
I
look
at
the
issues
that
we're
talking
about.
You
know
public
safety.
You
got
the
police
side.
You
know
I'm
very
interested
in
hearing
from
our
police
leadership
what
recommendations
they
have
within
the
budget
process
to
address
crime
within
our
community.
E
We
know
that
we
have
a
very
serious
issue
with
the
fire
department
in
terms
of
facilities
and
changes
that
we're
very
likely
to
have
to
make
I'm
just
not
sure,
there's
like
a
ton
of
people
in
the
community
that
are
fully
informed
on
how
to
address
that
versus
getting
that
input
from
the
staff.
And
ultimately
I
really
think
that
budget
decisions
are
a
huge
part
of
council.
That's
why
we're
here
we
are
the
budget
committee.
E
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
ultimately
are
responsible
for
that
for
better
or
for
worse-
and
I
I
just
I
don't
want
to
try
to
force
something
in
there
if
there's
a
specific
issue
that
we
need
a
task
force
for,
we
can
set
that
up
any
time.
I
just
honestly,
I
think,
we're
kind
of
searching
for
something
to
do
here,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
taking
and
addressing
those
issues
with
the
professionals
that
work
in
those
departments
and
and
absolutely
100
agree
with
getting
community
input
down
there.
E
I
I
think
that's
super
helpful,
especially
for
people
who
aren't
necessarily
able
to
get
out
to
different
events,
finding
those
those
opportunities
where
there's
already
events
or
people
are
already
gathering
and
and
offering
to
to
have
a
table
there
to
talk
with
people.
So
just
one
last
thought
about
that:.
N
F
Lohman,
you
know,
I
think
you
know,
I
think
the
points
that
were
just
raised
were
all
very
good
ones.
I
I
I
noticed,
as
I
look
down
here,
that
another
council
member
is
missing
and
I'd
be
interested
to
see
what
what
councilmember
martin
has
to
say
on
this
topic,
and
I
I
I
do
like
your
idea
of
these
town
halls
and
I
just
wonder
you
know
in
terms
of
you
know,
I
think
there
are
certain
things
that
a
task
force
could
help
us
with.
F
F
Those
town
hall
engagement
pieces,
and
so
maybe
it's
not
so
much
that
we
go
out
and
go
at
this
specifically
in
terms
of
having
them
help
us
make
that
decision,
but
they're
a
piece
or
a
component
of
that
discussion.
So
that's
when
I
look
at
the
assessment
piece
and
I
you
know
I
hear
folks
coming
to
the
you
know
the
podium
tonight
saying
hey.
A
No,
I
think
that
does
make
sense,
and
if
I'm
hearing
what
you're
saying
you're
you're
you're
framing
this
a
little
bit
more
toward
a
a
community
policy
advisory
task
force.
You
know
it's
it's
more
of
a
policy
issue
as
opposed
to
a
specific
budget
monetary
task
force-
and
I
know
the
line
is
fine.
I
get
that
but
but
to
talk
about.
You
know
talking
about
things
about
the
assessment
policy,
how
it
all
works.
A
Yes,
it's
a
budget
issue,
but
it's
it's
a
policy
issue
also
how
it
all
kind
of
fits
together.
So
I
mean
maybe
it's
a
it's
just
a
a
different
way
of
looking
at
it.
It
doesn't
burden
them
within
the
entirety
of
the
city
budget
and
trying
to
figure
out
and
understand
all
of
that
in
a
short
period
of
time.
It's
a
matter
of
taking
a
deep
dive
into
a
into
a
specific
policy
area.
I
Thank
you
mayor,
something
else.
I've
been
thinking
about
through
this
conversation
related
to
this
is,
I
do
think,
as
we
identify
now
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about
policy
issues.
I
mean
we
have
numerous
boards
and
commissions
already
in
place
so
like
when
the
parks
master
plan
was
brought
up.
I
mean
I
thought
to
myself.
Well,
we
have
the
park
board,
you
know,
and
I
I
assume
that
they
would
want
to
be
involved
in
those
you
know.
H
Thank
you
well,
and
just
I
guess
just
what
kind
of
one
final
thought
here
and,
and
that
is
that
you
know,
as
I've
gone
out
and
I've
had
conversations
with
with
folks
in
the
community
know.
I
I
think
part
of
the
reason
that
the
process
that
we
had
I
mean
there
were
a
lot
of
reasons.
I
should
say
that
the
process
we
had
last
year
was
so
successful.
You
know
we
did,
of
course,
have
folks
with
with
the
knowledge
and
experience
to
sort
through
the
issues
relatively
quickly.
H
We
should
do
them
again,
but
one
of
the
more
frequent
I
don't
know
I
wouldn't
use
the
word
criticism,
but
one
of
the
more
frequent
concerns
that
I
hear
from
folks
is
okay,
so
we
go
to
these
town
hall
meetings
or
we
speak
at
public
comment
or
we,
you
know
we
do
whatever
it
is.
We
do
where
does
that?
You
know
how
does
that
end
up
factoring
into
the
decision-making
process,
and
I
think
this
is
a
concrete
way
for
us
to
say
this
is
a.
H
This
is
how
the
public
will
actively
participate
will
help
formulate
these
decisions
that
are
made-
and
I
you
know
in
my
experience
folks-
are
looking
for
more
opportunities
like
that.
Not
fewer,
and
you
know
yes,
it
can
be
oriented
around
a
specific
issue.
It
shouldn't
be
oriented
around
the
entire
budget.
That's
that's
too
much
for
for
the
kind
of
process
we're
looking
at
here,
but
you
know
I
I
mean
looking
at
this,
this
iap2
the
the
spectrum
of
engagement.
H
Here
you
know,
I
I
mean
folks
want
to
feel
involved
and
they
they
want
to
know
that
what
that
their
involvement
means
something
both
in
terms
of
how
it's
incorporated,
ultimately
into
decisions,
but
also
in
how
those
decisions
are
made.
And
yes,
of
course
we
are
the
city
council.
We
are
elected
to
make
budget
decisions,
but
you
know
I
I
mean
I
you
know
I
I
just
think
it
it
it.
H
That
was
a
half
warm
thought
there,
but
I
it.
It
just
seems
to
me
like
this
is
a
a
conversation
that
folks
want
to
have,
and
I
think
we
saw
that
with
with
the
engagement
with
the
the
with
everything
that
we
saw
last
year,
and
I
I
just
really
think
this
is
something
that
we
we
could
bring
to
the
community
community
and
that
folks
would
be
interested
in
if
they
feel
like
they're
participating
in
a
concrete
way.
If
they
feel
like
what
they're
doing
is
going
to
make
a
difference
in
the
final
product.
H
And
that's
that's
the
piece
we
need
to
be
mindful
about.
Is
you
know
I
you
know
folks
will
go
to
presentations
and
they
will
listen.
Some
folks
will
do
that,
but
it's
just
a
different
level
of
value,
a
different
level
of
frankly,
a
different
feeling
of
belonging
of
feeling
like
we
are
a
part
of
the
process
if
folks
are
actually
involved
in
a
concrete
way-
and
I
I
I
don't
want
us
to
forget
that
I
don't
want
us
to
lose
that
moving
forward,
because
that
was
so
so
valuable.
Last
year.
A
If
you
could-
and
I
think
I
mean
you've-
heard
a
lot
here
and
I
think
there's
you
hear-
there's
different
perspectives
and
different
ideas
as
to
what
direction
to
go
and
what
direction
to
take
it.
I
think
we
could
continue
to
sit
and
chew
on
this
for
a
while
here,
but
maybe
the
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be,
to
you
know,
go
and
ruminate.
We've
got
a
proposal
in
front
of
us.
We've
had
a
good
discussion
here.
A
Maybe
we
bring
this
back
again
and
another
meeting
and
continue
this
conversation
and
see
where
we
end
up
because
right
now,
I
don't
think
we've
ended
up
anywhere.
I
think
we're
all
kind
of
at
different
parts
of
this
hill.
I
think
that
might
be
the
attack
to
take
here
at
this
point,
if
everybody's
okay,
with
that
all
right.
M
M
M
A
A
O
So
tonight's
meeting
is
basically
an
update
on
the
municipal
consent
process
and
the
municipal
layout
consent
layout
that
has
been
prepared
and
provided
to
the
city
from
mndot.
The
reason
for
municipal
consent
process
is
that
this
project
does
include
freeway
expansion
as
well
as
right-of-way
acquisition,
and
so
as
part
of
that
process.
O
Mndot
submits
the
layout
to
the
city
for
review
and
approval,
and
eventually
we
will
be
coming
back
with
a
resolution
of
support
for
the
council
to
hopefully
approve.
But
most
important
of
note
is
that
next
monday,
night
on
the
15th
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
public
to
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
to
the
council
on
that
proposed
layout.
L
Good
evening,
thank
you
mayor
and
council
members.
Thank
you
for
having
me
and
pleasure
being
here
all
right.
I
oh
thank
you.
I
was
like
how
do
I
do
this
all
right.
Fantastic
sounds
good.
Thank
you
all
right,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
first
construction
project
that
mndot
is
bringing
forward
to
the
city
of
bloomington.
L
So
amy
had
already
mentioned
that
we
have
the
municipal
consent
layout,
we'll
go
through
I'll,
go
through
some
just
areas
of
interest,
perhaps
to
the
city
of
bloomington.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
the
layout
does
include
information
on
construction
features
such
as
roadway
reconstruction,
sidewalks
trails,
bridges.
It
also
does
include
right-of-way
needs
on
there
as
well
and
you'll,
see
that
in
green.
As
I
highlight
in
the
slides
here
coming
up.
L
So
amy
also
mentioned
the
reason
I'm
here
talking
about
municipal
municipal
consent.
It
really
provides
the
municipalities
an
opportunity
to
comment
and
approve
a
project
layout
before
we
go
ahead
and
get
through
to
the
build
phase,
and
it
does
apply
to
projects
that
change
access,
increase
or
reduce
highway
traffic
capacity
or
requires
acquisition
of
permanent
rights
of
way,
and
that
is
in
minnesota
state
statute
and
so
for
494.
We
have
all
of
the
above.
We
have
access
changes,
we
have
capacity
changes
and
we
also
are
asking
for
right
away.
L
L
So
a
few
areas
where
we
have
capacity
expansion
are
just
starting
about
east,
just
east
of
highway
100.
That
is
where
most
of
the
expansion
from
inpass
will
or
excuse
me
easy
pass.
I've
been
trying
to
make
sure
I
don't
do
that,
but
of
course
it
slips
every
once
in
a
while
for
easy
pass
to
accommodate
the
lanes
in
the
middle,
we
will
be
widening
to
the
outside.
L
And
then,
in
terms
of
access
changes,
there
will
be
access
changes
between
portland,
nicolet
and
12th.
Those
access
changes
will
remove
access
at
niklet
and
portland,
and
those
will
become
just
straight
local
overpass
bridges
over
494
and
then
the
portland
avenue
will
become
a
full
access,
interchange
to
and
from
494
as
well.
L
L
L
We
are
putting
in
a
an
additional
left
turn
lane
coming
southbound
on
penn
avenue
to
82nd,
and
that
is
because
of
the
forecast
increase
in
volumes
in
2040
that
we
are
going
to
be
seeing,
or
at
least
are
forecasting
forecasting
to
see
associated
with
the
change
in
access
at
penn,
and
so
in
order
to
put
all
that
in
and
redo
this
intersection,
so
that
we
can
fit
that
left
turn
lane.
We
do
need
a
little
bit
right
away
on
the
west
side
and
the
east
side.
L
And
then
we
also
need
right
away,
like
I
mentioned
just
a
little
bit
more
construction
type,
temporary
easements
for
right
away
surrounding
the
turbine
interchange,
and
we
also
will
need
zoom
permanent
right
away
at
82nd
on
the
northeast
side
to
again
accommodate
that
expansion
of
the
new
northbound
to
westbound
494
directional
ramp.
That
is
associated
with
that
turbine
interchange.
L
And
then
here
is
at
portland
avenue.
You
see
a
lot
of
right
away
on
the
east
and
west
sides
of
porton
avenue
to
accommodate
the
expansion
of
portland
avenue
itself,
due
to
the
increase
in
volume
that
we
are
forecasting
based
on
the
change
in
access
and
then
also
we
have
some
right
away
needs
there,
just
north
of
walmart
to
facilitate
access
to
and
from
businesses
that
are
located
on
that
frontage.
Roadside.
L
So
we
have
a
a
list
of
other
further
investigations
that
were
working
on
community
outreach
has
been
a
goal
of
ours
from
the
very
beginning,
andrew
lataya.
The
project
manager
has
been
working
on
this
long
before
I
got
on
the
project
and
we
will
continue
in
our
continuing
on
our
community
outreach.
So
engagement
is
ongoing.
We've
had
numerous
things
that
we've
been
engaging
with
the
public
on
and
are
continuing
our
work
on
that
local
traffic
impacts.
L
The
visual
quality
manual
and
context,
sensitive
solutions.
That
process
is
getting
started
and
we
have
a
consultant
on
board
that
is
helping
us
to
finalize
that
and
get
our
contact
solutions.
Framework
plan
developed,
and
so
there
will
be
more
coming
up
on
that
in
the
coming
months,
as
our
goal
is
to
get
that
done
by
march.
L
So
in
the
next
slides
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
few
other
items
that
were
investigating,
such
as
preliminary
noise
while
locations
in
bloomington.
There
is
one
on
the
south
side
that
is
feasible
and
this
noise
wall
is
feasible
at
a
20
foot
height,
and
this
is
located
at
on
the
south
side
of
494
bis,
roughly
between
east
bush,
lake
road
and
highway
100,
and
we
do
go
through
a
noise
well
process,
a
voting
process.
L
L
All
right
so
here
I'm
going
to
just
kind
of
run
through
our
preliminary
concept
for
construction.
Staging
and
I'll
do
this
at
a
very
high
level.
It's
really
still
being
looked
at.
It
is
a
design
build
project,
so
I
will
say
there
are
many
different
ways
to
do
the
construction
staging
throughout
the
project.
We
will
have
requirements
that
the
contractor
will
have
to
follow
as
part
of
the
design
build
contract.
L
Removing
vegetation
getting
it
ready
for
the
major
construction
in
the
following
year,
so
those
types
of
instances
in
2024
we'll
have
the
design
complete
and
then
we'll
be
constructing
on
the
eastbound
side.
So
everything
you
see
in
green
would
be
permanent
construction
and
everything
you
see
in
orange
would
be
temporary
construction.
L
L
In
2025,
construction
takes
place
on
the
494
kind
of
median
areas
in
the
center.
We
also
have
construction
on
the
eastbound
half
of
the
35w
and
494
bridge,
and
that's
the
turbine
interchange
as
well.
You'll
also
see
that
we're
utilizing,
or
at
least
one
of
our
ideas,
is
to
utilize
the
bridge
over
35w
that
accommodates
that
directional
ramp
as
a
temporary
way
to
get
across
35w
heading
westbound,
so
that
will
be
utilized
for
a
couple
of
construction
seasons.
L
L
494
westbound,
half
of
the
35w
494
bridge
will
be
under
construction
in
the
turbine
interchange.
They
will.
The
contractor
has
the
opportunity
to
utilize
that
westbound
traffic
bypass
I
talked
about
before
if
needed,
and
then
the
work
at
82nd
and
35w
would
be
worked
on
in
this
time
frame
and
that
we're
looking
at
maybe
moving
up
in
the
time
frame
a
little
bit
too.
So
it
might
need
to
go
or
could
possibly
go
in
25,
not
necessarily
26.
L
So
the
current
estimate
for
cost
participation
for
the
city
of
bloomington
is
estimated
to
be
around
a
million
dollars.
We
have
bridge
reconstruction
at
about
200
000.
We
have
sidewalks
and
trails
at
about
165
thousand
lighting
is
175
000
signal
replacement
is
estimated
to
be
230
000
and
contingency
and
engineering
are
roughly
about
230
000
as
well.
L
We
are
still
exploring
a
few
items
related
to
local
drainage
utility
relocations
that
the
city
may
want
to
include
in
the
construction
and
any
visual
quality
or
aesthetics
items
that
are
over
and
above
the
mndot
budget
that
we
set
for
those
items.
I
also
do
want
to
point
out
that
the
infra
grant
that
the
federal
government
awarded
the
mndot
project
here
did
cover
an
awful
lot
of
the
cost
participation
items
that
the
city
would
have
had
to
do.
Had
we
not
gotten
that
award
of
that
grant
so
very
good
there.
L
For
the
next
steps,
like
I
had
mentioned,
construction,
we're
planning
to
begin
in
the
summer
or
roughly
in
sometime
in
2023
and
finish
in
october
2026..
We
do
have
ongoing
outreach.
Like
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
the
noise
well
and
the
aesthetics
recommendations
that
are
coming,
and
then
we
also
have
numerous
funding
sources
for
this.
You
can
see
here
that
the
first
project
costs
are
here,
construction,
our
budget
is
320
million
and
that
is
funded
by
quarters
of
commerce.
Local
state
and
federal
funds
will
be
used
for
that.
L
We
also
have
budget
for
utility
relocations
at
roughly
27
million
change.
Orders
were
forecasting
to
be
around
seven
million
design
is
ongoing
and
andrew,
and
I
have
been
working
on
that
for
a
few
years
now
and
that
is
budgeted
at
around
27
million,
and
then
we
have
the
right-of-way
costs
are
budgeted
for
roughly
38
million,
and
so
that
total
for
the
first
project,
total
project
cost
is
417.
L
A
A
O
O
O
Mayor
bessie,
the
the
application
for
municipal
consent
was
submitted
to
all
of
the
cities
at
the
same
time
and
there's
basically
it's
like
a
legislative
calendar
that
that
identifies
the
timelines
and
the
deadlines
for
for
all
the
responses.
So
within
60
days
of
the
application
or
the
submittal
is
when
we
have
to
have
the
official
public
hearing,
and
then
we
have
an
additional
90
days
beyond.
That
would
be
the
deadline
for
the
resolution
of
support
and
getting
that
submitted.
A
A
H
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
really
wanted
to
briefly
we'll
be
canvassing
the
results
of
the
election
on
wednesday,
and
so
we
can
do
it
then
too,
but
I
did
just
want
to
say
a
brief
note
of
thanks
to
our
city,
clerk
and
and
her
staff
and
all
the
election
judges
who
served
as
volunteers
this
this
past
weekend,
as
we
went
through
the
first,
our
first
go
around
with
ranked
choice,
voting
tabulations
and
all
that
it
was
incredibly
well
done.
It
was
just
an
a
wonderful
process
to
see
everything
was
organized.
H
Everything
was
done
professionally
and
efficiently,
and
just
really
really
well
done.
Even
to
the
to
the
point
where
our
city
clerk
would
rotate
out
election
judges
every
20
minutes
to
make
sure
that
folks
eyes
were
fresh
and
and
that
there
weren't
any
of
those
mistakes,
because
folks
were
getting
tired,
it
was
just
it
was
really
really
wonderful
to
see
and
everyone
that
I
interacted
with
who
witnessed
the
process
felt
the
same
way.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
brief
note
of
thanks
for
for
all
of
that.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
council,
members
council,
member
carter.
I
don't
have
the
exact
dates
at
my
fingertips,
but
we'll
certainly
follow
up
with
council
and
get
those
out
and
we'll
also
make
sure
that
those
who
are
going
to
be
potentially
benefited
by
having
those
will
will
have
that
information
available
as
well.
We'll
make
sure
we
communicate
those.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
I've
got
two
items.
First,
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
council
member
coulter's
comments
about
the
rank,
choice,
voting
and
our
city
clerk
and
the
election
judges
and
the
great
job
that
they
did
and
let
them
have
a
little
bit
of
rest.
But
at
some
point
it
would
be
nice
to
get
a
report
back
in
terms
of
how
that
process
went
lessons
learned,
budget
impacts
of
having
those
days
of
counting
and
tabulation
all
of
that
type
of
stuff.
E
E
Second
item
is-
and
I
did
give
chief
hartley
a
heads
up
about
this,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
two
of
bloomington
police
officers
received
medal
of
honors
from
the
bloomington
or
not
the
bloomington,
the
minnesota
chief
of
police
association,
where
I
believe
our
former
chief
is
the
head
of
that
organization.
So
who
knows?
B
B
These
officers
earned
it
on
their
own
accord,
so
through
just
really
solid.
De-Escalation
buying
time
allowed
the
other
officer
to
derive
unless
lethal
was
used,
but
the
video
is
remarkable
and
again
they
did
everything
spot-on.
I
don't
need
to
remind
people
what
this
country
looked
like
a
year
ago
last
summer
and
where
we
could
have
had
an
individual
who
would
have
had
a
deadly
force
encounter
with
our
police
department.
B
It
worked
out
where
this
person
was
taken
into
custody
and
I
believe
he
was
in
crisis
at
the
time
and
got
the
help
that
he
needed
so
a
really
a
proud
moment.
Last
monday,
night
archivist
was
tuesday
when
the
award
was
given
and
a
proud
moment
for
not
only
me
as
the
interim
chief,
but
also
the
shooti.
This
city
should
be
proud
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
asking
councilmember
nelson.
E
Thank
you
chief,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
and
certainly
didn't
mean
to
diminish
what
they
did
there
with
talking
about
former
chief
potts.
But
I
I
think
it's
just
a
great
representation
of
the
training
that
they
receive
the
professionalism
that
they
exhibit
to
be
able
to
de-escalate
and
to
help
someone.
That
is
obviously
experience
a
mental
health
crisis
and
very
happy
to
hear
that
you
know
that
individual
got
some
help
coming
out
of
that
incident,
which
I
think
is
the
goal
and
all
those
things
so
great
job.
F
You
mayor,
I
wanted
to
just
mention-
maybe
several
things
but
I'll
try
to
be
brief
here
and
also
folks.
We've
got
some
things
to
do
here,
yeah
december
1st
of
the
understand.
It
is
the
the
deadline
for
the
organics
carts
to
be
ordered
through
the
city,
and
I
wanted
to
confirm
that
with
the
manager
and
then
I
am
starting
to
get
some
questions
about
the
bills
that
folks
are
are
receiving.
F
For
that
cart,
and
I
I
had
a
misunderstanding
in
terms
of
that,
I
I
always
thought
that
that
if
you
ordered
those
that
cart,
that
that's
when
you'd
get
the
fee
it
as
opposed
to,
if
you,
if
you
didn't
order
it,
you
still
got
the
fee.
So
if
we
could
help
kind
of
clarify
that
for
an
office
city
manager
or
but
what
that
looks
like
for
residents,
so
they're
they're
not
surprised,
come
there
come
their
bills.
B
Mr
kiel
good
evening,
thank
you
mayor,
councilmember
lohman.
I
think
the
first
question
you
had
having
about
the
due
date
for
when
a
registration
is
required.
I
do
not
know
that
exact
date.
The
the
date
you're
referring
to
is
the
first
date
to
ensure
that
you
have
a
cart
by
the
beginning
of
service.
This
spring
people
can
sign
up
at
any
point
after
that,
but
that
may
their
cart.
Delivery
may
be
somewhat
delayed
if
they're.
B
That
first
date,
which
presumably
is
december
1st,
but
I
will
check
and
then
report
back
on
the
actual
date
and
on
to
your
second
question,
it
is
true
that
everybody
in
the
system
will
pay
for
organic
collection,
whether
or
not
they
have
a
cart
delivered.
So
it's
their
choice
to
have
a
cart
delivered
and
to
participate.
F
Thanks
for
for
clarifying
that-
and
I
maybe
just
had
a
misunderstanding
of
that-
but
that's
good,
just
clarify
that
you
know
you
work
on
so
many
details-
we
had
it
many
different
ways.
So
when
we
were
talking
about
so
thanks
for
clarifying
that
for
myself
and
for
the
general
republican,
you
may
not
want
to
go
too
far,
because
I
did
want
to
highlight
another
item
that
we
did
pass
earlier
today.
Just
in
case
you
want
to
have
any
comment
on
it,
but
it
was
our
8.6.
F
The
acceptance
of
water
efficiency
grant
funds
from
the
metropolitan
council
related
to
the
budget
adjustment,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
sense
of
praise
for
the
city
itself.
We
know
that
that
utilizing
water
in
the
in
the
city
of
bloomington
is
is
a
important
paramount
and
using
that
efficiently
is,
is
very
important.
F
And
so
the
metropolitan
council
previously
had
granted
18
000
of
its
grant
funds
to
the
city
for
promoting
water
efficiency
through
irrigation
system
audits
and
rebates
on
irrigation
controllers
in
sprinkler
heads,
and
they
have
now
wished
to
amend
that
agreement
and
to
provide
additional
three
thousand
dollars
and
it
will
be
matched
by
a
thousand
dollar
funds
from
the
sustainability
commission.
And
I
just
think
that
this
work
is
so
important.
F
We
talk
about
what
we
need
to
do
around
water
across
the
country
and
really
around
the
world,
and
you
know
it's
it's
timely
because
of
what
we're
doing
around
sustainability
in
the
the
conferences
that
we're
having
from
a
worldwide
perspective,
about
really
trying
to
meet
our
goals.
And
I
just
think
that
that's
just
one
example
of
the
many
different
aspects
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
around
sustainability
and
our
continued
as
a
council
being
committed
to
trying
to
make
those
make
those
changes.
B
Maybe
just
a
short
comment
that
the
irrigation
system
reviews
is
part
of
the
sustainability
commission's
work
plan
and
has
been
for
a
number
of
years.
The
first
grant
funded
a
very
successful
program
of
those
reviews
and
when
more
money
became
available
from
the
met
council,
they
had
recognized
our
success
in
that
area
and
actually
offered
us
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
expand.
Our
work,
which
we
are
very
happy
to
be
able
to
do.
F
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
with
today
mayor,
you
had
put
forward
a
proclamation,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
for
bloomington
veterans
and
we'll
get
the
opportunity
later
on
this
this
week
to
be
able
to
celebrate
that.
But
I
also
want
to
just
take
this
shameless
moment
to
to
just
promote
something
that
we've
got
going
on
here
in
bloomington,
which
is
bloomingtonveteransmemorial.org.
F
I'm
reminded
of
that
when
I
think
of
the
passing
of
former
general
colin
powell
over
the
over
the
weekend,
and
just
for
for
me,
as
in
terms
of
a
public
servant,
I've
kind
of
looked
at
to
him
and
some
of
his
work
as
being
really
pivotal
to
our
country
in
a
sense
of
bipartisanship,
and
I
want
to
kind
of
then
take
that
and
turn
to
another
public
servant
that
we've
had
here
in
bloomington.
And
I
want
to
thank
jack,
beloga
and
now
the
the
election
is
over.
F
Just
for
myself,
I
think
you
you
come
to
it
with
a
lot
of
humility.
Your
statesman,
your
commitment
to
discourse
and
making
sure
that
all
points
of
view
are
considered
has
been,
I
think,
a
helpful
part
of
our
ongoing
conversation,
and
for
for
this
council
member,
you
will
certainly
be
missed
after
the
new
year,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
for
your
commitment
to
sustainability.
F
That's
sort
of
the
reason
why
I
kind
of
set
this
up
the
way
that
I
did
to
talk
about
two
sustainability.
I
know
you
were
there
when
we
tried
to
get
this
thing
going,
and
I
wanna
just
tell
you
how
much
I
appreciate
your
your
commitment
to
that
that
sustainability,
piece
and-
and
I
I
I
think
back
to
when
I
watching
the
the
funeral
of
colin
powell
or
even
as
it
was
for
my
dad
when
they
they
took
that
flag
and
draped
it
over
the
the
coffin.
F
F
A
Thank
you,
councilmember,
yes
and
I'll
echo
that
council,
member
veloga
and
we'll
have
plenty
of
opportunity.
I
think,
as
we
get
into
december
here,
we'll
have
plenty
of
opportunities
for
for,
for
thanks
and
and
calling
out
your
your
great
service
to
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
thank
you
so
much
council
is
there
anything
else.