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From YouTube: November 29, 2021 Bloomington City Council Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota City Council Meeting
A
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
and
welcome
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
bloomington
city
council
to
order
tonight
is
monday
november
29th
2021.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
We'll
start
our
meeting
as
we
always
do
with
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
If
you
would
please
stand
and
join
me
in
the
pledge.
A
A
D
A
A
Next
on
our
agenda
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
to
folks
that
we
do
not
have
any
introductory
items
this
evening.
We've
got
a
pretty
lengthy
consent
business
and
we
do
have
seven
public
hearings
for
folks
that
they
will
be
invited
to
participate
in
with
our
organizational
business.
A
We've
got
one
main
item:
that's
our
continuing
the
discussion
that
we
had
the
other
night
regarding
the
budget
regarding
the
time
of
sale,
inspections
and
the
city-wide
grant
coordination,
so
that
will
be
a
more
of
an
organizational
or
a
study,
type
meeting
where
we
won't
be
taking
public
comment.
Public
leather
comment
of
possibility
or
opportunity
next
week
at
our
truth
and
taxation
hearing
will
be
able
to
talk
about
all
of
our
budget
issues,
but
this
will
just
be
an
internal
discussion.
So
council,
are
there
any
changes
or
additions
to
the
seedlings
agenda?
A
A
A
Council
any
questions,
if
not
we'll
move
on
to
item
4.2,
which
is
our
public
comment
period.
As
I
said
a
20-minute
period
at
each
council
meeting,
we
do
limit
speakers
to
five
minutes
not
to
to
squelch
any
conversation,
but
just
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
it
fair
and
and
even
for
everyone
who
comes
forward
to
speak
to
the
council,
it's
not
a
back
and
forth.
We
will
answer
questions
of
of
of
a
basic
nature,
but
we
won't
be
getting
into
a
back
and
forth.
A
F
The
following
addresses
comments
made
by
a
teacher
from
success
academy.
At
the
october
7th
city
council
meeting
the
teacher
stated
on
september
23rd.
I
took
my
fifth
graders
outside
for
recess.
There
was
a
man
and
a
woman
outside
with
small
children
taking
photos
of
their
kids,
and
then
it
slowly
progressed
into
taking
photos
of
our
students
as
well.
My
principal
dean
of
students
and
our
security
guard
at
our
school
was
outside
with
us
to
make
sure
the
safety
of
students,
and
it
was
just-
and
it
just
became
clear
right
away.
F
They
weren't
there
to
take
photos
of
their
small
children.
What
I
recall
was
my
grandchildren
playing
on
the
public
playground
equipment
and
then
a
large
number
of
students
from
a
private
business
come
out
to
use
the
park.
My
groud
grandchildren
get
off
the
playground
and
huddle
around
me
afraid
and
the
man
continues
to
take
pictures
to
document.
This
teacher
continues
and
as
a
person
there
to
take
care
of
the
children
was
very
saddening
to
watch
because
they're
innocent
children
and
there
are
people
taking
photos
of
the
kids
at
the
park,
and
that
was
hard.
F
What
was
saddening
to
watch
was
a
private
business
take
over
the
park
and
not
care
about
the
preschool
children
using
the
park.
A
fifth
grade
class
should
not
be
on
the
playground
with
pre
with
preschool
children.
I
believe
this
was
only
the
second
time
since
the
beginning
of
the
school
year
that
we
were
at
the
playground
where
students
were
using
it.
Otherwise
we
were
there
earlier
or
left
when
students
came
out
or
did
not
use.
The
playground
teacher
continues
throughout
this
encounter.
You
know
our
administration
was
out
there
taking
photos
of
the
man
as
well.
F
We
have
documentation
of
it
note
that
a
private
business
is
documenting
a
concern
of
a
private
citizen
documenting
a
concern
teacher
continues
and
every
time
they
ask
the
man.
Why
are
you
taking
photos?
His
response
was
it's
a
public
park.
I
can
do
it,
he
can
and
there
are
likely
other
activities
at
the
park
that
a
teacher
would
not
want
their
student
population
to
be
near,
and
a
teacher
should
not
expect
park
patrons
to
stop
their
activity
or
explain
themselves
teacher
continues.
F
F
My
grandchildren
look
forward
to
going
to
the
park
and
they
really
needed
that
and
they
were
not
able
to
be
to
use
the
playground,
because
students
were
using
the
playground
teacher
continues
and
the
responses
from
the
children.
Why
is
he
taking
photos
of
us?
How
do
you
look
at
a
kid
and
say
I
don't
know
honey.
I
don't
know
why
he
is
was
doing
that.
It's
just
heartbreaking.
F
The
private
business
knows
there
is
a
conflict
concerning
the
use
of
the
playground
and
should
have
shared
that
with
information
with
the
teachers
and
parents
teacher
continues,
and
so
these
things
that
we
deal
with
as
a
school
with
some
of
the
neighbors
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
just
not
right.
What
is
not
right
is
a
private
business
using
a
public
park
for
recess
and
not
only.
G
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
I'm
I'm
loathed
to
interrupt
a
public
comment,
but
I
I
voiced
this
concern
before
and
I'm
going
to
repeat
it
again.
Success
academy
is
a
charter
school.
It
is
not
a
private
business
charter.
Schools
are
defined
as
public
schools
in
minnesota
law.
This
commenter
has
repeatedly
referred
to
success
academy
as
a
private
business.
It
is
not.
F
F
Public
schools,
but
it's
a
private
business
I'll
continue
by
council,
ignoring
the
planning
commission,
condition
that
the
school
have
its
own
playground.
Teacher
concludes
they're,
getting
these
memories
in
their
mind
and
their
these
aren't
memories.
They
should
keep.
These
are
not
memories
they
should
have,
and
they
would
not
have
them.
If
the
school
told
the
students
that
it
was
a
public
playground
and
park
patrons
have
a
right
to
use
the
playground.
F
The
school
did
not
have
to
end
recess.
If
the
school
did
not
like
pictures
being
taken,
they
could
have
told
the
students
they
were
going
to
the
large
field,
tennis
or
basketball
courts,
or
to
the
gym
to
play
games
for
recess
and
the
students
were
not
trapped.
As
the
attorney
for
the
city
stated
when
I'm
at
the
playground
with
my
grandchildren
and
the
students
come
out,
I
say:
let's
go
to
the
bridge
or
let's
go
look
for
the
ducks.
I
do
not
speak
negatively
about
the
students
or
the
school.
F
A
D
A
D
E
Verbrugge.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council
member
nelson,
ms
ness,
usually
contacts
the
city,
manager's
office
or
the
mayor
prior
to
the
meeting
indicating
her
intent
to
appear.
We
could
certainly
follow
up
if
you
have
a
question
you'd,
like
staff,
to
send
her
in
advance
when
we
receive
that
next
communication.
D
That
sounds
good
city
manager.
I
appreciate
that
I
will
attempt
to
put
these
into
something
get
them
over
to
you
and
staff,
and
maybe
we
can
give
her
a
heads
up
on
those
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
what
what
her
concern,
what
the
situation
was
there
and
make
sure
that
the
people
watching
and
viewing
understand
what
actually
occurred
as
well.
So
thank
you.
A
H
Name
is
ray
navarro.
I
reside
at
10721,
lindale
bluffs
trail,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
I
appeared
before
you
as
part
of
the
group
from
the
bluffs
of
sans
pierre
back
on
november,
8th
when
the
council
decided
to
hold
off
on
the
street
improvements
and
then
also
discuss
the
fact
that
there
would
be
an
opportunity
for
members
from
our
development
to
possibly
have
some
collaborative
effort
in
trying
to
review
the
current
policy
when
it
comes
to
street
assessment
to
unique
areas
like
our
development.
H
H
I
understand
that
it's
most
likely
going
to
come
from
staff,
not
the
council.
If
that's
correct,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
council
allows
this
to
happen
and
certainly
encourages
staff
to
reach
out
to
us
and
there's
a
couple
of
folks.
I
think
that
would
be
good
candidates
to
be
a
part
of
that
discussion
when
the
staff
decides
to
move
forward
with
that.
H
In
conclusion,
I
again
I'm
not
looking
necessarily
for
an
answer,
but
I
just
would
like
this
to
be
a
part
of
the
discussion.
Is
I'd
like
to
find
out
kind
of
what
that
particular
meeting,
whether
that's
going
to
be
a
subcommittee
just
a
one-on-one
discussion?
I
don't
know
I'd
like
to
know
what
that's
going
to
look
like
and
kind
of
the
timetable
for
that.
H
I
realize
with
the
holidays
and
the
end
of
the
year,
it's
probably
not
the
ideal
time,
but
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
let
it
fall
off
the
radar
and
things
kind
of
move
forward
without
you
and
staff,
knowing
that
there
are
folks
within
our
development
who
have
a
desired
interest
to
be
a
part
of
that
discussion.
So
I
I
can't
imagine
that
anyone
knows
when
that
process
will
take
place
so
again.
H
A
Appreciate
your
comments,
mr
navarro,
and
I
I
think
we,
you
know
your
first
question
of
whether
or
not
this
would
actually
include
residents.
We
made
it
clear
to
to
staff
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
was
an
inclusive
type
effort,
and
so
I
think
you
can
count
on
that
and
then
just
from
a
process
standpoint.
H
A
A
We
have
no
one
on
the
phone
last
call
for
anybody
here
in
the
chambers.
We
don't
have
anyone
in
the
chambers
anybody
lurking
outside.
Perhaps
I
don't
believe
so
so
with
no
one
coming
forward.
I
will
close
tonight's
public
comment
period
and
thank
everybody
for
their
input.
This
evening,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
have
no
items
under
item
five
on
our
agenda,
our
introductory
business.
So
we
will
move
on
to
item
six,
which
is
our
consent
agenda
and
council.
A
J
A
A
B
J
B
J
A
J
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
I
anticipated
that
question
last
week,
as
did
several
of
our
staff,
so
we
asked
michael
keim,
our
fleet
manager,
to
give
us
some
information
on
that,
and
they
actually
did
scope
it
out
at
this
point
in
time
we
do
not
receive
discounts
on
the
ev
vehicles
that
we
do
through
the
state
contracting.
E
E
So
the
it's
about
ten
thousand
dollar
difference
for
the
hybrid
f-150
than
what
it
is
now
now.
Does
that
mean
that
we
cannot
do
that?
It
doesn't.
I
think
the
the
issue
is
at
the
point
in
time
where
council
is
comfortable,
saying
that
you
know
we,
the
the
value
in
sustainability
is
such
that
we're
willing
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
on
the
front
end
to
purchase
than
we
are
currently
based
on
our
fleet
managers
assessment
though
we
haven't,
we
haven't
reached
that
point
yet
where
we
feel
that
that's
warranted.
J
Thank
you,
so
is
the
state,
I
guess
I'm
not
fully.
I
don't
totally
understand
how
the
contract
works
and
like
with
our
discount
and
everything,
but
are
there
conversations
happening
at
that
state
level
related
to
those
contracts
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
purchase
the
hybrid
vehicles
at
a
discount.
E
Council
members,
mayor
and
council
member
carter,
I
don't
know
what
conversations
go
on
with
the
with
the
state
and
in
developing
the
state
contract
from
the
fleet
manager.
His
comment
is
that
the
economies
of
scale
just
haven't
brought
the
cost
down
yet
or
the
demand
is
as
such
and
that
they're
able
to
generate
the
same
kind
of
pricing.
So
that's
he's
pretty
confident
is
going
to
come
down
in
the
next
couple
years,
but
I
don't
have
any
insight
as
to
how
the
state
negotiates
those
numbers.
J
Thank
you
and
then
one
last
question.
So
when
he
did
the
cost
analysis,
did
he
consider
the
price
of
gas
and
how
much
it's
increased
in
just
the
past
year
and
kind
of
factored
that
into
the
longest
like
the
lifetime
of
the
vehicle
and
how
much
we'd
save
on
fuel,
because
it
would
be
running
off
mostly
electric
yeah.
J
A
And
I
would
agree
with
your
council
member,
I
think
I've
got
to
imagine
the
commissioner
of
administration
has
that
on
a
to-do
list,
somewhere
to
or
at
least
has
been
considered
at
the
department
of
administration,
but
we'd
have
to
get
more
details
on
it.
I'm
not
sure
council
member
nelson
question.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
just
to
follow
up
on
council
member
carter
and
it
sounds
like
there
was
a
thorough
analysis.
I'm
just
curious,
I
know,
there's
a
federal
tax
credit,
but
I
don't
know
how
that
would
apply
to
a
local
government
if
that
saving
is
available
to
a
local
government
or
not
for
purchasing
some
hybrid
vehicles.
E
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Well,
it's
a
tax
credit
and,
since
the
city
is
exempt
from
income
taxes,
it's
a
nil
issue
and
for
most
of
the
vehicles
there's
a
an
established
limit
on
them,
a
production
limit
so,
for
instance,
the
prius
hybrids
very
popular
they've,
been
you
know,
15
years
out
in
per
service,
I
believe
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
and
14
years,
without
a
tax
credit
because
they
burn
through
the
a
lot
of
number
of
vehicles.
So
it's
a
good
idea,
but
unfortunately,
there's
no
benefit.
D
A
K
J
All
right,
I
would
move
to
approve
the
request
to
purchase
five
2022
ford,
f-150
pickup
trucks
under
state
of
minnesota
contract,
169
6668
from
boyer
trucks
at
seven
hundred
two
dollars
and
thirty
six
cents.
Each
totaling,
one
hundred
fifty
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
eleven
dollars
and
eighty
cents
to
replace
motor
pool
units
on
a
one
for
one
basis.
A
H
H
H
They
shared
with
us
that
the
signage
both
on
the
actual
park
and
ride
facility
and
then
on
the
lrt
platform
in
monument
sign,
was
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars
earlier
in
our
discussions
with
metro
transit
they
had
asked.
Would
we
consider
giving
them
more
time
to
phase
in
the
signage
change
so
that
it
could
be
through
their
regular
update
process,
but
they
determined
that
that
wasn't
necessary
and
they
could
update
the
signage
by
the
summer
of
2022.
H
A
That's
remember,
nelson.
Oh,
no!
No,
I'm
sorry
old
hand,
there
a
question
for
you
on
ms
long.
If
I
could
you
have
a
list
of
effective
properties
here,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
at
least
I
had
thought
about
and
played
into
whether
or
not
this
was
something
that
was
feasible.
The
number
of
properties
that
would
be
affected,
obviously
their
address
would
change
all
them
if
they
had
if
they
had
a
stationary
or
or
letterhead
or
something
along
those
lines,
they
would
be
affected.
So
I'm
seeing
a
list
of
three
affected
properties.
A
A
A
J
A
D
It's
really
great,
to
see
a
lot
of
that
vision
coming
together
with
some
of
the
recent
development
projects
that
we
have
in
the
queue
and
things
like
that.
So
I
you
know
I
just
want
to
let
you
know.
I
support
this
and
thank
the
mayor,
the
former
mayor
for
for
his
years
of
service
and
really
appreciated
when
I
was
first
elected
to
this,
is
reaching
out
and
helping
me
on
board
and
things
like
that.
So
this
is
great.
D
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
nelson
and
that's
a
good
point,
obviously
with
with
lindau
lane
and
with
killer
brew
drive
in
that
area.
This
is
kind
of
a
thing
in
the
areas
where
we're
taking
advantage
of
some
of
the
roads
around
the
south
loop
and
around
the
mall
of
america
to
recognize
folks
who
have
played
an
important
role
in
the
development
of
that
area
or
the
history
of
that
area,
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
appropriate
addition
to
that
list
of
of
street
renamings.
I
A
A
E
Mayor
and
council
members,
that's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say
is
that
now
that
the
council
has
taken
action,
we'll
work
with
former
mayor
winstead
to
identify
a
date
to
have
a
special
commemoration
out
in
the
area
of
the
south
loop,
so
that
we
can
join
with
him
to
get
the
street
names
up
and
recognize
the
name
change
and
we'll
share
that
information
with
the
council.
When
we
have
a
date
on
the
calendar.
A
Very
good
well,
thank
you
all
very
much.
Let's
move
on
on
our
agenda
item
7.2,
which
is
her
second
public
hearing
of
the
evening,
and
this
is
regarding
a
privately
initiated
city
code
amendment
and
more
specifically,
regarding
motor
vehicle
sales
and
high
density.
Mr
johnson,
nick
johnson
from
our
planning
department
is
here
good
evening.
Mr
johnson
welcome.
L
A
L
L
Those
are
the
two
chapters
that
comprise
the
zoning
code
so
getting
into
the
definition
of
this
new
use
as
submitted
by
united
properties.
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
verbatim.
You
can
see
the
the
actual
definition
on
the
screen
here,
but
I
do
want
to
highlight
just
a
couple
things
and
and
how
it
relates
to
other
forms
of
motor
vehicle
sales.
L
First
of
all,
the
facility
has
to
be
a
multi-level
and
fully
enclosed
structure,
so
that
is
a
departure
different
differentiator
between
what
they
are
proposing
to
construct
at
a
location
in
bloomington
and
other
motor
vehicle
sales
facilities
in
the
city.
It
does
require
a
minimum
floor
area
ratio
of
0.6.
L
So
that's
a
fairly
high
far
for
motor
vehicle
sales.
One
of
the
things
that
we
get
concerned
about
with
motor
vehicle
sales
as
a
general
use
is
that
sometimes
it
involves
lots,
amounts
of
surface
parking,
and
so
this
feature
of
the
definition
of
this
use
avoids
that
underutilization
factor
with
the
with
this
flurry
ratio
0.6.
L
L
L
L
L
This
is
the
the
current
locations
of
the
c1
and
c3
zoning
districts.
There's
11
sites
in
bloomington.
This
is
really
only
just
to
illustrate
where
these
districts
are
located.
Currently
with
respect
to
the
freeway.
This
is
a
majority
of
some
of
our
existing
motor
vehicle
sales
sites,
as
well
as
some
other
high
intensity
retail
type
sites.
Just
to
note
that-
and
this
may
be
a
factor
in
the
future-
but
just
to
note
that
of
course,
united
properties
are
not.
L
Another
applicant
certainly
would
have
the
ability
to
request
a
rezoning
and
reguiding
to
potentially
pave
the
way
for
this
use.
So
we
we
shared
this
map
just
to
illustrate
where
these
sites
are
located
currently
in
between
american
or
along
494,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
an
applicant
couldn't
request
that
a
new
site
be
rezoned
to
c1
or
c3.
L
So,
just
to
note
that
that's
really
part
of
the
reason
that's
informing
the
permitted
versus
the
conditional
use
and
it
being
a
permitted
use,
aligns
with
their
other
motor
vehicle
sales
uses
in
the
zoning
code.
So
just
to
point
on
that,
with
respect
to
the
planning
commission,
discussion,
planning
commission
did
review
this
ordinance.
They
did
hold
a
public
hearing
on
october
28
of
21,
and
no
members
of
the
public
spoke
at
the
hearing.
The
applicant
was
given
the
opportunity
to
speak
at
the
hearing
and
did
make
some
brief
remarks.
L
I
believe
they
are
available
and
their
teams
available
this
evening
as
well,
but
following
discussion,
planning
commission
ultimately
did
recommend
a
recommend
approval
of
the
ordinance
on
a
6-1
vote.
Just
to
note
that
the
one
member
that
did
not
support
the
ordinance
did
so
on
the
basis
of
kind
of
the
existing
sites
being
located
and
concentrated
along
american
boulevard.
L
The
city
has
been
working
with
metro,
transit
and
other
public
agencies
to
try
and
make
that
a
more
transit
oriented
quarter,
and
so
I
think
in
that
member's
view,
the
use
did
not
align
perfectly
with
that
future
vision.
But
the
remaining
members
of
the
planning
commission
did
support
the
ordinance
and
it
did
pass
so.
Staff
and
planning
commission
is
recommending
approval
of
this
privately
initiated
ordinance
if
it
were
to
pass.
D
L
D
I
guess
I'd
be
interested
in
the
opinion
of
those
that
were
here
when
that
vision
was
created
and
approved
if
they
feel
like
this
is
consistent
with
that,
because
I
know
that
was
the
concern
raised
by
one
of
the
planning
commission
members
that
it
may
not
be
so
for
for
those
with
maybe
a
bit
longer
tenure.
Your
input
would
be
helpful
on
that.
L
Sure
mayor,
I'm
happy
to
take
a
stab
at
that
question.
I
know
glenn
markengard
is
on
the
call
as
well
and
if
you're,
seeking
more
institutional
knowledge
on
the
pen
american
district
plan,
but
certainly
that
plan
does
seek
to
create
more
pedestrian
oriented
development,
particularly
along
american
boulevard,
as
well
as
some
of
the
new
private
roadways
around
in
the
pet
american
district.
L
So
certainly
that
could
be
viewed
to
an
extent
to
be
a
conflict,
but
there
is
a
reason
why
we
have
required
findings
in
all
of
our
development
approvals.
One
of
those
required
findings
seeking
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
as
well
as
any
district
plan
that
is
adopted
for
that
area.
So
say
one
of
these
developments
was
proposed
at
an
area
subject
to
the
pan-american
district
plan,
for
example,
if
that
development,
as
it
was
being
shown
either
in
location
or
design,
say,
it
was
consistent
with
the
definition
but
otherwise
did
not.
L
L
D
Thank
you
and
then
one
of
the
examples
that
was
given
within
the
information
was
the
bmw
location
that
that
would
be.
This
would
be
similar
to
what's
going
on
there.
What
is
the
far
at
that
location?
If
you
know,
maybe
that's
an
unfair
question.
If
you
don't
know,
and
just
from
my
knowledge
of
driving
pastor,
it
seems
like
they
have
more
than
30
cars
in
their
outdoor
area.
L
Yeah
mayor
councilman,
nelson,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
don't
know
the
far
off
the
top.
My
head
you're
correct,
that
it
very
much
is
a
simpler,
similar
model
or
facility,
as
you
would
see,
with
a
high
density
motor
vehicle
sales
facility.
But,
as
you
pointed
out,
the
bmw
site
would
not
meet
all
of
the
performance
standards
or
the
definitional
standards
in
the
definition.
L
D
L
D
A
I
C
Thank
you,
mayor,
nick,
a
question
for
you
and-
and
I
I
just
assume,
but
I
didn't
want
to
assume
before
we
passed
this.
I
noticed
that
in
our
land
use
guide
plan
that
along,
I
believe,
flindale,
that
we
have
some
community
development
areas
or
community
commercial,
and
what
would
that
zoning
code
look
like?
Would
that
be
either
the
c1
or
c2?
I'm
assuming
it's
not
because
that
it
would.
C
You
know
it
would
not
be
freeway
necessarily,
but
I
want
to
just
be
sure
that
there
isn't
any
other
part
of
the
city
that
we
are
guiding
in
our
2040
plan
that
we're
thinking
about
doing
that,
that
we
may
have
some
unintended
consequences
of
of
doing
this
and
find
ourselves
a
huge
building
and
a
place
where
we
didn't
intend.
So
I
just
wanted
to
just
be
sure
that
I
asked
that
that
question.
L
Mr
johnson
yeah
thank
you
mayor
and
councilmember
lohman.
I
appreciate
that
question
because
it
does
bring
up
something
that
I
failed
to
bring
up
in
my
report
in
that,
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
automobile
sales,
a
new
use
or
even
an
expanded
use,
a
site
does
have
to
be
guided
as
regional
commercial.
L
Automobile
sales
is
not
an
allowed
use
in
our
community
commercial
guidance.
So
the
lindale
avenue
corridor,
as
you
mentioned,
is
not
a
guided
regional
commercial.
Those
sites
are
more
limited
to
along
494.
Similar
to
that
map.
I
showed
of
where
those
c1
and
c3
sites
are
zoned.
So
not
only
do
you
need
to
be
c1
or
c3,
you
also
need
the
regional
commercial
guidance.
C
C
L
Yeah,
maybe
maybe
that's
a
good
discussion
point
for
glenn
too,
but
councilmember
lohmann.
I
think
it
was
created
at
the
behest
of
the
mall.
I
think
it
was
actually
another
privately
initiated
city
code
amendment
and
that
project
did
not
come
to
fruition.
I
think
it
was
created
somewhere
between
five
and
ten
years
ago,
and
so
you
know
that
potentially
could
be
something
that
could
be
looked
at.
L
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
it's.
If
no
developments
have
occurred
as
a
result
of
it,
it
might
not
serving
a
good
utility
there.
I
know
it
was
thought
of
that.
It
could
maybe
incentivize
people
to
going
more
enclosed
in
other
districts
and
that's
why
it
was
allowed
in
more
districts,
but
that
has
not
come
to
fruition.
I
A
I
A
I
A
Thank
you
both
for
being
here
tonight.
Let's
I
don't
see
any
other
additional
staff
questions.
Why
don't
we
open
up
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
we
have
any
comments
or
questions
from
the
public?
So
with
that
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
in
item
7.2,
which
is
that
is
a
privately
initiated
city
code,
amendment
motor
vehicle
sales,
high
density.
A
A
A
K
J
A
I
know
you
understand
that
it's
a
it's
a
zoning
change
that
could
it
possibly
could
be
applied
elsewhere.
It
could
be
applied
here,
but
it
could
be
possibly
applied
elsewhere
as
well
and,
as
mr
johnson
did
say,
that
anything
that
would
come
forward
based
on
the
zoning
designation
would
have
to
face
planning,
commission
and
council
scrutiny
also,
so
it's
it
is
not
as
if
we're
we're
approving
a
plan
right
now
to
somehow
deviate
from
the
the
initial
plan
or
or
thought
regarding
the
dependent
american
district.
J
L
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
So
the
right
now
the
c1
and
c3
district
is
the
proposed
districts
to
allow
this
use
and
that
map
that
you
saw
in
the
report.
Consumer
carter
is
with
the
existing
locations
of
those
sites
that
have
that
designation.
That
would
not
preclude
united
properties
from
seeking
to
rezone
and
re-guide
another
site
that
they
think
may
or
may
not
be
appropriate
for
this
use
to
the
c3
or
c1
designation,
depending
on
their
prerogative
and
regardless
of
whether
they
pick
a
site.
L
That's
already
zoned,
c1
or
c3
again,
assuming
that
this
were
to
be
approved
tonight,
regardless
if
they
picked
an
existing
site
or
a
new
site.
Both
of
those
approvals
would
be
subject
to
having
to
make
the
required
findings
that
the
site
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan,
as
well
as
any
adopted
district
plans
that
are
subject
to
the
area
of
the
location
of
the
site.
J
Thank
you.
I
understand
that.
Well,
when
I
look
at
the
map,
I
guess
the
majority
is
the
penn
american
area
and
then
areas
on
off
american
boulevard
boulevard,
and
I
guess
in
my
mind,
if
we
already
know
that
this
type
of
business
isn't
exactly
what
fits
into
the
vision
of
this
area,
and
we
already
have
many
car
dealerships.
I
guess
I
just
don't
understand
why
we
would
change
our
ordinance
to
allow
it.
If
we
also
anticipate
there
would
be
a
high
level
of
scrutiny.
J
I
I
just
can't
imagine
that,
given
the
amount
of
car
dealerships
we
already
have
along
494
on
american
boulevard,
I
would
be
supportive
of
more
car
dealerships,
even
high
density
in
these
areas
marked
red.
So
that's
just
my
personal
opinion,
and
and
so
that's
what's
helping
shape
my
my
vote
tonight.
D
Thanks
mayor,
I'm
just
wondering
if
it's
possible
to
know
what
the
I
mean.
Obviously
this
was
brought
forward
by
a
private
party.
You
know:
where
are
they
looking?
What
are
they
looking
to
do
and
make
a
decision
based
on
understanding
kind
of
the
goals
or
see
if
there's
a
different
path
to
meet
that?
Based
on
the
concerns
I've
heard
from
a
couple
of
my
colleagues
about
a
specific
location,
but
the
reality
is
I
you
know,
I
don't
know,
maybe
that
isn't
even
the
location
that
they're
thinking
of
doing
anything.
D
L
I
Let's
just
keith
austin,
I'm
happy
to,
I
guess
we're
unbound,
both
tom
and
I
are
our
companies
bound
right
now
by
a
pretty
strict
nda
from
a
non-disclosure
agreement
from
from
the
user
we're
working
with.
So
I
can't
say
too
much,
but
I
will
say
that
the
the
project
that
we're
pursuing
this
for
is
not
in
pan-american.
I
I
agree,
it's
not
a
good
fit
there,
it's
not
on
american
boulevard
and
it's,
I
think
I
hope,
and
I
believe
that
you'll
find
it
to
be
a
good
fit
when
we
do
bring
it
forward
and
we
will
as
soon
as
we're
allowed
to
by
the
end
user.
But
it's
I
share
your
concerns
that
I
was
there
at
the
table
when
we
were
drafting
the
pen
american
plan.
I
C
Thank
you
mayor.
You
know
my
understanding
and
again
nick
johnson.
Please
stop
me.
We've
got
parcels
that
are
outside
of
of
the
of
the
pen
american
that
that
could
utilize
this
to
to
to
be
able
to
to
to
build
this
particular
type
of
of
of
whatever
their
whatever
this
vision
may
be.
Is
that
correct
just
wanna
be
sure
I
understand
that
correctly.
L
C
I
just
wanted
to
just
be
sure
that
my
understanding
was
that
this
is
not
just
for
pendant
american
this
this
this
particular
proposal
that
they're
making
right
this
is.
This
is
any
c1
and
c3
that's
out
there
that
fits
this
definition
right.
That's
that's
correct,
yeah!
I
just
wanted
to
be
sure
that
I
was
clear,
so
you
know
I
I
certainly
you
know
I
you
know
I,
given
that
we
have
the
additional
scrutiny
with
the
petting
american.
I
certainly
understand
what
my
my
colleagues
are
saying.
C
I
think
that
from
overall
perspective
to
to
get,
if,
if
we've
got
other
car
dealerships
out
there,
that
are
the
traditional
and
they're
moving
to
this
more,
you
know
more
of
a
narrow
and
more
dense
type
of
style.
I'd
be
very
interested
to
see
what
that
proposal
looks
like.
I
want
to
separate,
whatever
proposal
may
be
coming
up
from,
you
know
from
a
policy
perspective,
but
I
do
believe
there's
some
opportunities
that
may
be
more
sustainable
than
what
we're
currently
doing
right
now.
C
I'm
particularly
interested
in
this
reduction
in
the
with
the
repair
piece.
That's
a
part
of
this,
so
I'd
be
interested
to
entertain,
seeing
some
of
this,
and
so
for
those
for
those
factors
alone.
I'd
be
interested
since
we've
got
dependent
american
protected
with
that
process.
There
I'd
be
interested
to
see
what
development
types
of
things
could
could
happen
here.
I
know.
C
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
The
the
comments
regarding
the
penn
american
are,
you
know,
they've
been
stated
and
by
a
couple
of
us,
but
we've
also
had
conversations
in
the
past.
I
believe
several
times
in
the
past
of
moving
the
penta
american
district
further
to
the
east
of
35
and
we've
considered
such
things
as
just
continuing
it
just
doing
a
small
district
plan,
and
if
we
do
the,
if
we
do
accept
the
proposed
zoning,
that's
really
going
to
hamper
the
ability
to
expand
that
district.
D
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor,
just
a
couple
of
quick
follow-ups
so
to
council
member
lowman's
point
that
this
would
apply
to
any
c1
c3.
This
would
also
potentially
apply
to
anything
that
came
in
with
a
request
to
re-zone,
so
the
property
that
may
be
of
interest
may
not
be
in
one
of
these
current
locations.
Is
that
accurate.
D
L
D
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
different
way
to
to
do
this,
to
meet
the
needs
of
that
business
and
not
knowing
the
specifics
of
that,
but
also
recognizing
the
concerns
and
the
interests
and
the
long-term
plans
for
the
particularly
the
pan-american
area.
If
there's
a
different
way
of
going
about
meeting
their
needs,.
D
L
D
L
Mayor
councilman
nelson,
I
mean
again
kind
of
legislating
on
the
fly
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
if
a
specific
exclusion
can
be
written
into
that
particular
use
either
in
the
definition.
I
would
note
that
we
are
this
ordinance
before
you
this
evening
is
seeking
to
only
amend
the
definition
section
and
the
use
table,
so
I
think
opening
up,
potentially
you
know
creating
a
performance
standard
or
adding
it
to
the
definition,
I
think
would
be
a
bit
messy
or
challenging
yeah.
I
Could
I
speak
to
that
for
a
moment,
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you,
but
I
I
remember
it-
and
this
was
this-
was
highly.
This
was
talked
about
fairly
detail
at
the
at
the
planning
commission
hearing.
Isn't
it
true
that
the
pan-american
plan
that's
in
place
would
would
would
preclude
doing
this
in
the
american
district?
Even
if
the
zone
is
correct?
Isn't
it
true
that
a
development
has
to
satisfy
the
comp
plan,
the
zoning
requirement
and
and
the
district
plan
itself
in
order
to
be
subject
for
approval.
L
L
These
are
the
findings
that
have
to
be
met
number
one.
The
proposed
development
is
not
in
conflict
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
two.
The
proposed
development
is
not
in
con
conflict
with
any
adopted
district
plan
for
the
area,
so
any
site
that
is
subject
to
a
district
plan
has
to
not
be
in
conflict
with
that.
With
that
district
plan
at
the
discretion
and
findings
of
the
city,
council
and
planning
commission,
so
I
think
that's
what
keith
ulstead
is
representing
is
that
that
was
the
heart
of
the
discussion
at
planning.
D
So
one
quick
question
mayor,
if
I
might,
in
terms
of
the
district
plan,
what
specifically
would
this
proposal
if
it
was
in
that
district
not
meet,
you
know,
how
would
we
make
that
finding
and
I'm
mindful
that
we
rezoned
something
previously
and
then
decided?
We
didn't
really
like
that
development
and
said
no
to
it,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
avoid
a
similar
issue
in
the
future.
L
Mr
johnson,
thank
you
mayor,
councilmember,
nelson
you're,
correct.
There
is
a
number
of
both
elements
about
the
public
spaces
and
how
the
private
development
is
supposed
to
orient
it
towards
that.
Just
for
the
record.
Most
of
the
pen
american
district
plan
is
zone
c5,
which
has
a
higher
far
and
a
higher
intensity
requirement
than
the
district
we're
talking
about,
but
certainly
the
south
town
site
is
zone
c3.
So
hence
you
know
that's.
I
I
I
know
I
visited
through
uli
newtown,
where
they
had.
You
know
brand
new
main
street
high
density,
and
they
did
have
two
auto
dealerships
incorporated
into
that,
but
they
were
dealerships
that,
from
the
outside
did
not
look
at
all
like
dealerships.
They
look
like
you
know,
other
retail
uses,
so
I
know
it
is
possible
to
design
it
in
a
way
that
would
fit,
but
most
would
not
fit.
I
agree
with
that.
L
L
C
L
Yeah,
thank
you
I
mean
it'd
be
similar
to
married
councilmember
alone
would
be
similar
to
any
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
you'd
have
to
do
you'd
want
to
do
an
extensive
public
engagement
process
and
public
hearings
with
respect
to
amending
the
boundary
and
and
ultimately
on
the
back
end
of
that
likely
amend
or
rezone
some
of
those
properties
that
you
would
be
incorporating
into
that
district
plan.
C
So
that's
a
pretty
lengthy
process
that
would
definitely
take
us
beyond
january.
The
7th
sounds
like
to
me
so,
barring
doing
something
of
that
scope,
is
there
any
way
to
protect
that
area
as
a
part
of
this
or
a
different
process
that
west
of
penn
avenue?
Given
that
you
know,
past
councils
have
stated
that
they
wanted
to?
You
know
protect
that
area.
Is
there
another
route
that
we
could
go
about,
trying
to
do
that?
L
Thank
you
councilman
lohman,
mayor
may.
This
is
nick
again
I'm
going
to
share
my
zoning
map
please,
but
hopefully
better
than
last
time.
I
tried
to
switch
what
I
was
looking
at.
So
this
is
the
site
that
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
c3.
This
is
south
town,
so
I
heard
councilman
beloga
talk
about
extending
that
boundary
either
to
the
east
or
to
the
west.
L
So,
at
this
time
again,
just
for
the
sake
of
discussion,
this
ordinance
were
adopted.
You
would
not
have
the
ability
to
construct
a
high-density
motor
vehicle
sales
facility
immediately
to
the
east
of
south
town
or
immediately
to
the
west,
even
if
you
extended
with
regardless
of
extending
the
boundary
of
the
pen
american
district.
C
L
That's
correct:
the
the
city
council
would
have
to
approve
the
re-guiding
and
rezoning
of
the
site,
not
necessarily
re-guiding.
So
I
think
some
of
these
sites
are
already
guided
regional
commercial,
but
they
would
have
to
rezone
those
sites
to
either
c1
or
c3,
which
again
has
the
highest
level
of
council
discretion.
C
So
you
know
thank
you
for
that
that
clarification
for
myself,
so
I
was
going
to
recommend
that
we,
you
know,
maybe
continue
this,
but
it
doesn't
like
there.
It
really
isn't
anything
that
can
be
done.
You
know
it
sounds
like
the
the
spaces
are
protected
through
various
various
things,
and
I
guess
I
need
to
see
what
this
proposal
is
before.
I
I
turn
it
down.
A
I
would
agree
with
you
guns
remember.
I
also
think,
with
the
with
the
district
plan
and
the
other
protections
in
place,
I
do
think
we
have
enough
tools
at
our
disposal
that
if
we
ended
up
with
a
proposal
we
didn't
like,
we
could
end
up
voting
it
down
one
way
or
another.
We've
heard
from
a
lot
of
folks
here
I
council,
member,
martin
or
colter,
I
haven't
heard
from
either
of
you
too,
did
you
want
to
chime
in
here,
or
are
you
happy
listening
to
the
conversation
council,
member
culture.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
I
was
struggling
to
find
my
electronic
hand.
No,
I
I
think
you
summed
it
up.
Well,
I
you
know,
I
think
the
the
concerns
that
I've
heard
raised
are
are
certainly,
I
think
valid
and
as
someone
who
was
on
the
hra
has
sort
of
the
the
initial
phases
of
the
american
district
were
just
being
finished.
I'm
I'm
right,
I'm
certainly
protective
of
that
area
as
well,
but
I
think
you
know
the
the
fact
that
it
I
mean
it
states
right
there
in
city
code
that
it
it
has
to
be.
G
You
know,
to
the
council's
satisfaction,
compliant
with
the
district
plan,
so
that
to
me
suggests
that
we,
you
know
a
future
council
would
be
able
to
if
something
were
to
come
forward
in
the
pan-american
district.
That
is
not
in
in
sort
of
alignment
with
that
plan
that
the
council
would
have
the
authority
to
to
vote
it
down.
So
I
I'm
perfectly
perfectly
comfortable
moving
forward
with
this
tonight's.
J
A
C
A
B
J
A
Aye
motion
carries
7-0,
so
thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
discussion
on
that,
I
thought
it
was
a
very
good
discussion
and
good
points
brought
up
and
good
concerns,
but
I
do
believe
we've
got
the
protections
in
place
and
and
we're
in
a
good
place
with
this,
and
I
think
we'll
we'll
be
happy
with
the
outcome
and
thank
you
to
our
friends
from
united
who
are
with
us
this
evening.
A
Also,
I
think
they're
gone
already,
but
thanks
to
mr
strohm
and
mr
halstead
for
joining
us
moving
ahead
item
7.3
on
our
agenda,
our
third
public
hearing.
This
is
a
resolution
regarding
proposed
changes
to
fees
and
charges,
schedule
and
ms
lori
economy
shoulder
our
cfo
is
here
tonight
good
evening,
ms
economy,
shoulder
welcome.
I
I
It
is
approximately
a
17
page
listing
of
city
fees,
predominantly
related
to
park
and
recreational
facilities,
both
bush
lake
beach
and
highland
golf
course.
Fees
have
been
removed
from
this
schedule
this
year
for
starting
for
2022
there's
also
been
some
updates
in
the
data
practice
information
moving
from
the
city,
clerk's
section
to
general
copies
on
page
16
of
the
17
page
draft.
I
There
are
a
number
of
city
staff
available
for
questions
in
the
park
and
rec
area.
If
you
have
any
questions
on
that
majority
of
these
fees
and
charges
were
reflected
in
the
22
budgets
in
the
general
fund
communication
in
the
recreational
enterprise
budgets
that
the
council
viewed
at
last
week's
study
session
special
meeting
on
the
budget,
so
those
rates
of
fees
have
been
included
in
this
fee
schedule.
I
A
Council
any
questions
on
this.
This
is
an
annual
kind
of
thing
that
we
go
through
with
the
charges
and
the
fees
and
then
the
the
cleanup,
I
think,
to
move
everything
to
the
appendix
I
think
makes
good
sense.
We've
been
working
on
getting
everything
there
for
a
while
now
and
that
that,
as
I
said,
is
the
next
logical
step,
I
think
any
questions
of
staff
on
this
council
member
lolman.
I
Sure,
mayor
and
council,
member
lowman,
as
staff
look
at
each
of
the
fees
and
I'll
think
say
in
bloomington
ice
garden.
They
would
look
at
what
we're
currently
charging.
They
would
look
at
where
we
are.
Our
current
rates
are
in
comparison
to
our
neighbors
of
also
where
they
sell
ice,
and
we
would
look
to
try
to
move
in
step
with
some
of
those
or
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
continue
to
be
competitive,
but
not
leave
us
where
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
take
on
any
more
clients
either.
C
Thanks
for
that
explanation,
and
also
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
take
it
away
from
you
mayor,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
their
work
on
with
their
doing
this.
I
know
that
takes
a
lot
of
work
each
year
and
we
see
it
each
year
when
it
comes
forward,
and
I
just
so
much.
I
appreciate
you
guys
doing
that
work.
A
I
agree
councilman
loman
and
I
know
that
it's
a
it's
a
delicate
balancing
act
between
making
sure
that
we
charge
the
right
amount
in
an
appropriate
amount,
but
at
the
same
time
don't
overcharge
to
the
point
that
we
lose
business.
And
so
it's
a
it's
a
balancing
act
on
so
many
of
our
facilities
and
with
so
many
of
our
programs-
and
I
think
our
staff
does
an
outstanding
job
of
that
so
counsel.
Any
additional
questions
or
comments
on
this.
E
Mr
boogie,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council,
member
nelson.
We
are
proposing
adjustments
there
regarding
the
position
that
you
indicated,
the
position
is
being
added
back
into
the
compensation
plan,
but
not
being
requested.
Just
yet
we'll
have
our
staff
take
a
look
and
see
if
it
is
appropriate
to
adjust
those
fees
and
certainly
if
we
are
going
to
be
adding
some
staff
capacity
we'd
want
to
have.
E
A
A
N
Mayor
members,
technically
they're
doing
two
different
things:
one
is
amending
the
fees
and
in
a
resolution
and
the
other
one
is
moving
fees
from
the
code
into
a
standalone
resolution
of
fees.
So,
if
everybody
understands
what
what's
happening,
you
can
do
a
separate.
You
can
do
a
combined
public
hearing,
but
you
can
also
do
them
separately
as
well.
I
think
that
laurie
had
envisioned
them
as
being
two
separate
ones.
A
Why
don't
we
stay
on
the
safe
side
and
be
have
a
two
separate
public
hearings?
Let's
do
it
that
way?
I
appreciate
the
input,
so
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
then
7.3
the
resolution
regarding
the
proposed
changes
to
fees
and
charges
schedule.
Anyone
in
the
council
chambers
wishing
to
speak
on
item
7.3.
A
A
C
J
J
A
I
There
are
also
that
would
be
moving
and
referenced,
and
that's
why
we
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
coupler
are
too
important
that
they're
all
put
together
there
and
then
the
public
hearing
on
that
and
if
there's
any
other
pieces,
maybe
the
city
attorney
might
add
insight.
If
there's
direct
questions.
A
I
I
J
L
C
A
All
right
are
you:
are
you
there?
Are
you
back
jack
all
right,
six,
zero
to
close
the
public
hearing
council
I'd
look
for
action
unless
we
have
additional
questions
or
comments
on
this,
and
I
will
echo
I
appreciate
the
the
year-long
effort
of
our
legal
staff
to
clean
this
up
and
to
to
just
make
this
a
little
bit
easier
to
manage
and
work
with
by
moving
forward.
So
that
makes
it
very
helpful.
B
D
G
A
B
J
A
N
N
The
charter
commission
typically
meets
in
may
and
in
may
of
this
year
they
acted
on
some
items,
but
then
they
also
indicated
or
rather
were
advised
that
we
would
be
pulling
them
back
together
in
october
of
this
year
to
look
into
some
amendments
to
chapters
related
to
elections
and
process
and
procedures.
Related
to
that.
We
knew
we
needed
to
do
that,
because
we
had
been
reviewing
the
charter
related
to
ranked
choice
voting
and
we
knew
it
needed.
N
Some
updating
and
some
cleanup
and
the
the
timing
was
such
that
we
were
not
able
to
do
that
and
wanted
to
onboard
the
new
city
clerk
and
get
through
an
election
first
to
see
or
the
sort
of
rollout
of
an
election
to
see
if
everything
was
caught
up.
So
we
undertook
that
process
and
we
met
with
the
charter
commission
and
october.
N
In
late
october,
there
was
a
public
hearing
notice
published
in
the
sun
current
as
required
by
state
law,
and
we
are
holding
the
public
hearing
tonight
on
that
ordinance.
You
can
take
action
tonight
if
you
would
so
desire
action
to
amend
the
the
charter
by
the
city
council
under
the
process
that
we're
using
tonight
requires
a
unanimous
action
by
the
city
council.
N
N
N
So
there
are
two
different
items
for
your
consideration
tonight.
The
first
one
is
only
amending
section
2.05,
which
is
located
in
chapter
2
of
the
city
code.
Only
amending
section
2.05
in
related,
relates
to
how
to
address
vacancies
in
council
office
positions,
and
then
the
second
one
that
you'll
be
asked
to
consider
is
amending
the
entirety
of
chapter
five.
N
So
you
don't
need
to
act
on
only
one
and
not
the
other,
or
both
you
can
take
action
on
both
of
them
or
neither
of
them
tonight,
but
we
would
like
you
to
open
and
close
the
public
hearing
on
both
of
them
this
evening,
so
with
that
by
way
of
introduction
on
the
process.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
on
the
process,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
those
now.
K
K
A
I
would
agree
with
you,
council,
member
logan.
We've
already
had
that
conversation
here
at
the
council
deus
and
we
will
make
sure
that
we
either
we
will
we'll
wait
appropriately
to
get
you
back.
Regarding
the
vote
after
the
the
public
hearing
and
after
we
talked
to
the
the
operator,
I
have
no
idea
why
that
might
be
happening.
That's
just
odd.
I'm
not
sure
what
my
the
deal
might
be.
A
A
O
O
O
Is
it
exempts
that
vacancy
in
office
from
due
to
a
successful,
recall
election
measure
from
the
usual
appointment
process,
so
section
2.05
lays
out
the
appointment
process
when
we
have
a
vacancy,
but
chapter
five,
as
you'll
see
in
a
little
bit
already
lays
out
a
process
for
electing
someone
to
fill
a
vacancy
due
to
a
recall
election.
So
this
just
clarifies
that
if
we
had
a
successful
recall
election,
there's
already
a
process
in
2.05,
and
we
don't
need
to
address
that
then
in
chapter.
O
The
problem
with
that
timing
is
that
it
doesn't
take
into
account
the
state
statutory
requirement
that
we
publish
a
notification
of
candidacy
filing
ahead
of
the
candidacy
filing
open,
and
that
needs
to
be
done
at
least
two
weeks
before
the
election,
which
means
we
need
to
get
it
to
the
newspaper
about
a
week
and
a
half
before
the
candidacy
filing
excuse
me.
It
needs
to
be
noticed
about
two
weeks
before
candice
candidate
filing
opens,
and
that
means
we
need
about
a
week
and
a
half
to
get
to
the
paper
ahead
of
that.
O
A
I
A
A
Hi
motion
carries
7-0
for
the
record
council.
Member
carter
also
got
booted
off,
so
I
think
it's
maybe
the
top
two
people
in
the
alphabet
that
are
getting
bumped
off.
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
that's
working
item
7.6
our
second
to
the
last
public
hearing,
but
our
second
public
hearing
on
the
charter.
Commission
recommendation
this
to
amend
city
card
city
charter,
chapter
five
mississippi.
O
Wonderful.
Thank
you
again.
The
proposed
timeline
is
the
same
from
the
previous
item,
so
we
won't
belabor
that
point
so
some
background
for
the
purpose
of
the
proposed
amendments
for
chapter
five
again,
just
like
we
did
with
chapter
two,
we
were
looking
for
compliance
with
state
statutes,
consistency
with
the
rank,
choice,
voting
method
that
we
now
use.
O
So
it
will
make
it
easier
for
the
public
to
understand
the
process
and
for
city
officials
to
for
us
to
administer
these
types
of
elections,
and
then,
additionally,
we
identified
some
potential
policy
changes
that
the
charter
commission
reviewed
and
had
recommendations
for,
and
so
the
way
I've
kind
of
split
up.
This
presentation,
as
I
go
through
two
slides
of
housekeeping
items,
and
so
I
thought
we'd
kind
of
work
through
those
two
housekeeping
items.
O
Thank
you
so
want
a
little
bit
more
background.
Information
on
the
applicable
state
statutes
that
we
were
looking
at
as
we
were
reviewing
chapter
five
and
while
city
state
statute
does
allow
charter
cities
some
some
ability
to
differ
from
election
law.
The
vast
majority
of
the
statutes
that
apply
to
elections
also
apply
to
charter
cities,
and
so
these
were
some
of
the
key
ones
that
came
into
play.
As
we
were
looking
at
chapter
five,
one
of
those
is
uniform
election
dates.
State
statute
specifies
cities
may
only
hold
elections
on
certain
days.
O
There
are
election
notification
requirements
in
state
statute
that
we,
as
a
city
are
subject
to.
We
must
provide
notice
of
an
election
to
the
county
at
least
74
days
before,
holding
that
election
candidate
filing
periods
are
set
in
state
statute
and
they
must
be
held
within
during
a
specific
time
frame
and
that
time
frame
differs
depending
on
when
the
special
election
will
be
held,
and
then
notification
of
candidate
filing
periods
is
required.
So
cities
must
publish
candidate
filing
notification
at
least
two
weeks
before
candidate
filings
open.
O
So,
with
those
in
mind,
the
proposed
housekeeping
items
within
this
amendment
are
the
following.
The
first
is
updating
and
reordering
our
section
names
just
for
clarity
and
consistency
throughout
section
five
changing
registered
voters
to
voters
registered
in
bloomington,
so
that
it's
very
clear
on
when
we're
when
we're
looking
in
our
charter,
what
signatures
we're
talking
about?
What
percentages
we're
talking
about?
It's
specifically
voters
registered
here
in
our
city,
the
third
one
is
updating
the
timing
of
ballot
measures
and
so
for
initiative
and
referendum.
O
The
proposed
amendment
require
requires
us
to
hold
a
special
election
or
hold
the
election
at
the
next
uniform
election
date.
That's
at
least
75
days
away,
given
the
fact
that
we
have
a
74-day
notification
requirement
to
the
county.
That
75-day
period
gives
us
one
day,
then
right
to
notify
the
county
in
time
to
meet
our
statutory
obligations
and
then
for
recall
elections.
O
O
O
O
The
second
proposed
policy
change
is
clarifying
the
process
for
referendum
committees
and
petitions
in
our
current
charter
committee
formation
for
referendum
committees
as
referendum
initiatives
is
required,
but
it's
unclear
in
our
current
charter,
the
deadlines
for
committee
formation.
It
doesn't
address
the
need
for
notification
of
potential
ordinance
repeal
to
the
city.
O
What
our
charter
currently
does
is
it
takes
the
the
initiative
petition
section
and
requirements,
and
it
refers
back
to
that
in
our
referendum
section.
The
problem
with
that
is
that
it
doesn't
referendums
and
initiatives,
don't
exactly
the
process
isn't
exactly
the
same,
and
so
it
leaves
a
lot
of
gray
areas
as
far
as
if
we
did
have
a
referendum
petition.
O
So
that's
very
similar
to
what
the
initiative
petition
is
now,
except
for
the
ordinance
effective
date
portion
right
initiatives
can
kind
of
come
at
any
time
within
15
calendar
days,
then
of
that
committee
formation.
The
committee
would
then
submit
their
completed
signature
petition
to
the
city
clerk
within
10
business
days.
The
city
clerk
would
then
determine
if
that
petition
is
sufficient.
O
O
The
third
proposed
policy
change
that
the
charter
commission
recommended
was
the
timing
of
initiative
elections.
The
current
language
says
that
initiative
petitions
with
signatures
between
10
to
15
of
votes
cast
in
the
last
regular
municipal
election,
be
placed
on
the
ballot
at
the
next
regular
municipal
election.
O
In
practice.
What
that
could
mean
is
we
could
receive
an
initiative
petition?
Let's
say
we
receive
one
now
right.
We
just
had
a
regular
municipal
election
earlier
this
month
and
if
we
received
an
initiative
petition
with
between
10
and
15
percent
of
those
cast
in
the
last
regular
municipal
election,
we
would
have
to
hold
that
election,
then
in
2023,
because
that
would
be
the
next
regular
municipal
election,
and
so
the
proposed
change
puts
those
initiative.
O
Petitions
on
the
ballot
at
the
next
regularly
held
election
versus
having
it
at
having
to
wait
on
those
potentially
a
significant
amount
of
time,
and
just
a
reminder
that,
in
our
starter
initiative,
petitions
with
more
than
15
percent
of
votes
cast
in
the
last
regular
municipal
election
require
a
special
election.
So
we're
talking
about
those
only
with
signatures
from
10
to
15
of
votes
cast.
O
O
O
O
The
required
number
of
signatures
is
25
percent
of
total
number
of
registered
voters
who
voted
in
that
district
at
the
last
regular
election
where
that
office
was
on
the
ballot
and
those
signatures
would
need
to
be
from
registered
voters
in
that
district.
So
it
decreases
the
total
threshold
for
those
district
office,
but
it
also
requires
those
signatures
be
from
that
particular
district.
So
we
wouldn't
have
a
voter
who
lives.
O
C
C
C
So
was
there
any
discussion
around
that
at
all?
In
terms
of
you
know
the
charter
commission,
in
terms
of
because
those
are
kind
of
two
different
sets
of
of
of
voters,
I
mean
one
one
could
would
look
to
get
a
different
outcome
by
because
we
don't.
We
do
know
that
the
turnout
is
different
at
an
even
year
election
than
an
audio
election.
O
C
Okay,
just
is
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
concern
on
my
part,
and
I
I
just
that
that
don't
you
know
you
one
could
I
mean.
I
know
that's
not
the
intention.
I
understand
what
we're
trying
to
do,
but
one
could
use
that
for
their
advantage
of
you
know
in
terms
of
changing
something
with
it,
with
a
larger
turnout
on
a
general
election.
So
I've
got
a
little
bit
of
concern
with
regard
to
that
that
particular
policy
piece.
So
I
don't.
C
C
So
then,
more
so
just
a
a
quick
question
this.
So
if
someone
were
to
get
this
initiated,
it's
theoretically
possible
that
if
they
got
all
their
their
items
in,
they
could
get
it
in
by
february
1st,
and
we
could
have
an
election
for
recall
30
days
prior
to
the
election.
Am
I
am
I
understanding
that
correctly
with
the
new
proposed
I
mean
now,
it's
no.
C
You
could
have
at
any
point
in
time,
but
I
just
I
mean
I
just
wanted
to
just
you
know,
challenge
the
idea
of
the
march
15th
piece
because
you
could
have
an
election.
If
I'm
understanding
the
the
time
frame
correctly,
you
would
have
the
you
would
go
on
and
have
the
you
know
the
petition.
Everything
was
submitted,
you
know
february
early
february
and
then
you'd
you
know.
Theoretically,
you
could
have
two
sets
of
elections.
Am
I
understanding
that
correctly
or
am
I
not.
O
Council
member
lowman
to
clarify
a
bit
there
are
really
only
five
days
a
year
in
state
statute,
where
the
city
would
be
allowed
to
hold
a
special
election,
the
second
tuesday
in
february,
the
second
tuesday
in
april
second
tuesday
in
may
second
tuesday
in
august,
which
is
also
the
primary
date
and
then
the
first
tuesday
after
the
first
monday
in
november,
and
so
theoretically
with
the
timing.
If
we
had
a
petition,
you
know
process
start
february
1st
and
go
through
that
process.
O
We
would
likely
be
looking
at
the
second
tuesday
in
august
for
being
able
to
hold
that
election.
Now.
If
the
petition
process
goes
a
lot
faster,
we
might
be
looking
at
the
second
tuesday
in
may,
but
that
would
be
a
really
tight
time
frame
honestly
with
all
of
the
the
lead
time
for
for
filing
and
for
notification
requirements.
O
C
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
get
clarity.
Thank
you
for
helping
me
understand
it
actually
be
a
sooner
would
be
in
august.
I
forgot
about
the
five
the
five
days
that
are
eligible,
so
that
would
not
make
that
for
for
for
a
month
term,
there
all
right.
Well,
that
makes
sense
to
me,
and
I'm
far
more
understanding
of
that,
I
certainly
you
could
say
you
could
do
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
or
the
end
of
the
year.
You
got
to
pick
a
date
somewhere.
A
I
A
A
A
B
J
B
A
Council
discussion
on
this,
so
councilmember
loma.
You
brought
up
a
concern
on
item
number
three
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
that
it
it
could
potentially
be
used.
I
think
for
if
somebody
wanted
to
game
things
up,
they
certainly
could
use
it
in
that
way.
But
that
being
said,
I
don't
know
that.
A
A
I
guess
it's
one
of
those
worst
case
scenarios
that
I
don't
know
that
we
try
and
govern
toward,
but
we
also,
I
know
we
need
to
keep
it
in
mind
as
we
we
make
these
decisions,
sometimes
so
council.
Any
additional
thoughts
on
that
councilmember
lohmann
had
the
concerns
about
ultimately
an
off-year
election
being
recontested
in
an
even
year
election,
which
would
obviously
be
with
a
higher
voter
turnout.
A
A
C
N
Mayor
members,
I'm
looking
through
the
provision
right
now.
You
know
it's
less
than
ideal
in
that
we
have
a
lot
of
these
items,
build
on
each
other
and
if
our
and
build
off
of
each
other,
and
so
in
the
event
we
come
back
on
the
17th
or
excuse
me
on
the
20th,
and
we
don't
have
success
in
a
unanimous
action
on
this
particular
section.
N
N
Yes
really
may
members
that
is,
that
is
what's
going
on
here
and
then
sort
of
the
the
challenge
of
when
we
come
back
on
december
20th
to
take
action
on
one
section
and
if
we
aren't
successful
in
moving
forward
the
language
as
proposed
tonight,
then
we've
got
some
bigger
issues
to
unpack
that
will
affect
other
sections.
So
that's
really
it's
kind
of
a
two-part
problem.
O
A
I
think
the
bottom
line
is
that
ultimately
they're
all
voters
of
bloomington
one
way
or
another,
whether
it's
the
off
year
or
the
special
or
excuse
me
or
the
the
on-year
general
election.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
that's
this
is
swaying
you
at
all
councilman
lohmann,
but
I
think
it's
breaking
down
to.
C
A
N
Correct
mayor
members,
it's
my
understanding
that
we
will
not
have
all
members
of
the
city
council
present
on
the
december
6th
meeting.
We
don't
have
a
meeting
on
december
13th
and
so
the
file
the
december
30th
or
excuse
me.
The
december
20th
meeting
would
be
the
last
possible
meeting
date
that
the
council
could
take
action
based
on
the
sort
of
shot
clock.
That's
set
out
in
state
law.
N
In
the
event,
the
council
fails
to
take
action
on
honor
before
december
20th
or
will
essentially
the
I
believe.
It's
the
29th,
but
the
last
regular
meeting
is
on
the
20th
and
we
got
some.
We
got
some
tricky
stuff
happening
right
around
that
date
that
are
probably
going
to
occupy
people's
times
and
availability.
N
And
so
what
would
happen
if
the
council
does
not
take
action
by
december?
29Th?
Is
that
the
edits
to
chapter
5
would
need
to
go
back
to
the
charter
commission
and
we
would
start
the
process
anew.
The
the
the
charter
commission
would
need
to
make
us
a
new
recommendation
to
the
city
council
and
we
would
commence
that
that
process
brand
new
again.
D
G
First
of
all,
I
would
not
recommend
that,
because
it's
you
generally
don't
have
a
lot
of
control
over
it
anyway,
but
to
the
extent
that
you
want
to
do
that,
you
want
a
lower
turnout
election
so
moving
something
to
a
higher
turnout
election.
Well,
I
I
guess
strategically.
It
just
wouldn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
in
that
regard.
G
What
I
would
suggest
so,
ms
manderschard
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it
sounds
essentially
like
you're
saying
that
if
we
do
not
take
action
on
this
item
on
these
items
tonight,
that's
essentially
that's
the
ballgame
that
the
process
would
have
to
start
a
new
sometime
next
year.
Did
I
did
I
not
hear
that
correctly.
A
G
G
These
provisions
I'm
moving
forward,
I
would
I
would
suggest,
and
and
if
council
member
lowman
is,
is
open
to
this
one
possibility
could
be
that
we
move
forward
tonight
and
then
council
member
lohman
asks
his
questions
and
gets
the
information
and,
as
he
acknowledged
he
he
seems
like
he
might
be
end
up
supporting
it
anyway
and
then
should
there
be
the
desire
to
make
changes
after
that
fact
that
that
could
be
something
that
potentially
the
charter
commission
would
take
up.
I
don't
know
if
council
member
long
I'm
seeing
a
shaking
head
there.
C
C
Certainly
I
understand
what
where
the
council
is
at.
I
am
not
there.
I
want
to
look
at
this
and
I
have
some
other
questions
that
I
want
to
ask,
and
I
and
I
don't
I
don't
I'm
properly
formatted
right
now,
so
I
would
ask
if
we
could
wait
till
december
the
20th,
but
if
you
don't
want
to
wait,
you
know
where
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
stand
tonight.
I
do
think
that
my
questions
can
be
can
be
answered,
but
I
just
want
to
take
some
time
to
think
about
that.
So.
A
A
I
A
A
P
Good
evening,
mayor
council,
this
item
is
somewhat
of
a
housekeeping
item
and
it's
related
to
the
redevelopment
efforts
at
bloomington
central
station.
It
specifically
has
to
do
with
a
plat
that
you
approved
back
in
may
of
this
year.
The
seventh
edition
plat,
and
what
we're
asking
you
to
do
this
evening
is
to
release
a
number
of
previously
dedicated
easements
so
that
that
plant
can
be
filed,
and
these
easements
and
all
other
needed
public
easements
will
be
dedicated
as
part
of
that
new
plat.
A
A
A
G
J
A
I
Mayor,
I
will
move
that
in
the
interest
of
the
public.
We
approve
the
vacation
of
public
drainage
utilities,
sidewalk
bikeway,
vehicular
parking,
driveway
and
maneuvering
easements,
with
an
out
lots
b,
r
and
t
bloomington
central
station
2nd
edition
lot.
2
block
1
vtc
edition
parcel
97-11
in
parcel
97-10
recommended
with
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance
approving
the
vacation
of
vacation
of
said,
public
easterners.
A
A
A
A
As
I
mentioned,
when
we
adopted
the
agenda
is
basically
a
study
session
item.
It's
a
continued
discussion
of
our
time
of
sale
inspections
and
our
discussion
about
the
city-wide
grant
coordinator
position
that
we
had
talked
about.
So
I
see
that
we
have
cary
carlson
our
budget
manager.
I
know
we've
got
carla
henderson
in
the
room
as
well.
In
case
we
have
questions
there
and
ms
carlson
good
evening
welcome.
M
M
Okay,
so
this
evening
we
have
some
additional
information
as
a
follow-up
to
the
budget
discussion
at
last
week's
council
meeting
and
first
I
have
some
information
about
the
proposed
grant
coordinator
accountant
position
and
grant
compliance.
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
and
then
community
development
director,
carla
henderson,
has
information
to
share
regarding
the
proposal
to
bring
the
time
of
sale
inspections
in-house.
M
M
So
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
the
grant
coordinator
position,
and
so
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
last
week,
but
this
account
accountant
grant
coordinator
position
with
the
salary
and
and
benefits
would
be
a
little
over
105
000
and
would
take
care
of
federal
funds
such
as
american
rescue
plan
funds
or
fema,
which
is
the
federal
emergency
management
agency.
There's
very
strict
requirements
for
that
as
well.
M
Federal
funds
need
a
large
amount
of
documentation
and
adherence
to
the
federal,
uniform
guidance
policy
and
this
person.
This
new
position
would
serve
as
a
delay
zone
with
all
the
departments
to
coordinate,
grant
administration
during
the
full
grant
life
cycle
and
would
also
maintain
there's
administration
of
various
grant
portals.
There
are
several
grant
portals
for
us.
Many
applications
for
submitting
reports
and
also
would
have
the
potential
and
the
future
to
be
supported
by
grant
funds
and
give
the
city
the
capacity
to
obtain
additional
grant
funds.
M
There
you
go
okay,
this
slide
we
talked
about,
we
have
for
2020
25.3
billion
dollars,
and
we
just
wanted
to
show
you
some
additional
information
of
how
that
25.3
million
is
split
out.
So
we
did
split
out.
The
cares.
Grant
revenue
is
its
own,
separate
piece
of
pie
here,
the
6.7
million
dollars,
and
that
was
used
in
multiple
departments.
M
to
date,
it's
about
21.4
million
dollars
and
there
will
be
a
full
reconciliation
will
be
done
at
the
year
end
and
that
number
will
change,
but
just
to
kind
of
show
you
where
we
are
this
year,
and
so
I
also
wanted
to
give
you
some
more
information.
We
talked
a
lot
about
the
single
audit
and
just
let
you
know
like
what
we
mean
by
that
and
so
the
single
audit.
M
M
And
that
itself
was
about
a
71-page
document,
so
a
lot
of
materials
to
go
through
and
make
sure
that
you're
following
requirements
correctly,
and
so
because
of
these
strict
requirements
on
city
of
bloomington.
We
issued
our
own
uniform,
grant
guidance
policies
and
procedures
earlier
this
year,
which
are
pretty
extensive,
and
this
is
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
compliance
with
these
federal
grant
requirements.
M
So
our
vision
for
this
position
would
be
to
perform
the
essential
accounting
grant
management
functions
and
ensuring
that
they're
in
compliance
with
various
granting
agencies,
so
not
just
federal
but
also
federal,
state
and
local,
and
following
federal,
uniform
guidance
that
I
was
just
discussing
and
serve
as
a
department
liaison
with
all
departments.
So
having
this
position
doesn't
mean
that
no
one
in
the
city
is
going
to
be
working
on
grants
anymore.
M
It
takes
lots
of
people
that
are
already
involved,
but
to
be
able
to
have
someone
that
can
coordinate
in
with
this
grant
administration
through
its
full
grant
cycle
and
offer
support
and
ensure
compliance,
there's
also
a
schedule
of
expenditures
of
federal
awards,
which
is
called
the
cfa
that
we
are.
We
publish
that
annually
and
this
person
would
be
in
charge
of
putting
that
together.
Currently,
this
is
done
by
our
assistant
finance
manager,
and
they
do
this,
but
they're
not
they're
they're,
not
in
this
position.
M
They
don't
have
the
capacity
to
kind
of
be
this.
This
expert
and
this
liaison
for
everyone
for
grants,
and
so
also,
then
this
person
would
be
responsible
for
ensuring
that
departments
across
the
organization
they
adopt
a
common
approach
to
compliance
and
that
it
fosters
an
ethical
and
transparent
culture.
M
So
I
have
a
few
examples
of
some
of
our
our
federal
grants
and
this
first
one.
This
just
happened
last
year
and
of
course
this
was
a
something
new
and
it
was
a
really
quick
time
frame,
but
for
the
cares
act
that
was
from
march
to
november
last
year,
it
was
6.7
million
dollars.
It
required
a
big
team
of
people
across
the
city
to
be
able
to
read
through
multiple
frequently
asked
questions
and
guidelines
and
new
guidelines
were
issued.
M
It
seemed
like
monthly
and
things
have
changed
and
lots
of
webinars
lots
of
meetings.
It
was
a
real
huge
effort,
a
lot
of
people
in
the
city
to
to
be
able
to
coordinate
that
and
successfully
use
the
money
so
that
it
followed
the
federal
guidelines
for
accounting
and
reporting.
It
created
a
lot
of
setup
in
our
accounting
financial
system
and
new
accounting
codes
to
track
it
and
reconcile
it
appropriately.
M
There
was
monthly
reports
that
were
due
and
then
our
external,
our
external
auditors,
mmkr
they
do
the
single
audit
and
it
is,
they
are
very,
very
thorough,
as
the
single
audit
requirements
are
required
and
it
did
go
very
well,
but
it
is,
it
was
a
huge
lift
for
the
people
that
were
involved
and
then
currently
we
have.
As
you
know,
our
american
rescue
plan
arp
funds-
and
this
is
a
much
longer
time
period
started
march.
2021
goes
to
december
2024.
M
If
there
are
funds
that
are
committed
by
2024,
they
can
go
on
to
2026,
so
it's
much
longer
period
and
that
amount
was
11.4
million.
We've
received.
Half
of
that
so
far,
we'll
receive
the
other
half
next
year
and
the
interim
final
rule
is
what
it's
called
that's
about:
151
pages,
I
think,
to
date,
maureen,
o'brien
and
legal.
M
These
reports
are
submitted
every
quarter
and
we've
also
been
fortunate
that
our
internal
auditor
auditor,
bj
srilanlan,
has
been
help
putting
in
a
lot
of
time
helping
with
these.
Typically,
she
is
doing
the
audits
for
the
our
lodging
and
admission
tax
and
liquor
tax
audits
and
for
a
time
there
we
did
kind
of
slow
down
those
audits
during
the
pandemic.
But
in
order
to
make
sure
that
those
are
also
in
compliance,
we
need
to
get
those
back
up
again.
M
So,
there's
definitely
going
to
be
a
need
to
have
someone
that
can
help
with
these
funds,
and
then
I,
the
last
example
I
have
here
is
a
grant-
that's
on
a
much
smaller
scale
in
the
term
in
terms
of
dollars,
but
it's
also
a
great
deal
of
work,
and
so
this
is
the
crime
victim
liaison
grant
and
we've
been
able
to
have
this.
This
is
a
wonderful
program
and
this
grant
has
helped
us,
so
we
can
have
this
crime
victim
liaison
in
the
legal
department.
M
We've
had
it
for
five
years.
There
was
a
kind
of
multiple
cycles.
We
had
it
for
a
year
and
then
two
two
year
terms
so
currently
there's
a
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
for
two
years
and
just
talking
with
the
people
that
are
involved
in
just
this
grant,
with
the
legal
it's
about
50
plus
hours
a
quarter
just
on
this
one,
grand
and
the
tracking
the
reporting
collecting
documentation-
and
this
is
between
accountant,
that
is
in
the
finance
department.
Where
this
is.
M
You
know
their
main
duties,
but
they're
helping
with
it
then
also
one
of
the
deputy
city
attorneys,
a
legal
administrative
assistant
and
then
that
crime,
victim
liaison
and
people
that
are
working
on
this
grant
are
still
going
to
have
to
provide
information
and
be
aware
of
this.
But
it
would
be
very
helpful
just
to
have
someone
who
would
be
tasked
with
managing
grant
compliance
and
applications
would
just
benefit
legal
tremendously
that
what
they
had
said.
M
What
they
shared
is
that
currently
each
reporting
cycle
feels
like
starting
from
scratch
as
it's
not
like
their
main
part
of
what
they're
doing
and
but
it's
something
that
they
need
to
do
and
the
reporting
process
would
become
a
lot
more
efficient
and
less
time
consuming.
There
was
a
person
in
the
city
was
a
subject
matter
expert.
B
N
Offer
up
a
little
bit
more
information.
The
other
thing
that
we
we
experience
when
we
apply
for
these
grants
and
we
try
to
comply
with
the
grants,
is
that
they
oftentimes
require
that
the
city
either
change
or
adopt
or
take
on
different
types
of
policies.
I
had
a
call
earlier
today
indicating
that
there
is
a
grant
that
we'd
like
to
apply
for,
and
it's
going
to
require
us
to
amend
a
policy
that
we
have
in
order
to
come
into
compliance
to
be
eligible
for
the
grant.
N
Employment
policy
that
we
don't
have
likely
will
require
significant
staff
time
and
a
consultant
to
come
into
compliance
with
that,
and
so
it
got
to
the
point
where
this
particular
grant
cycle,
which
just
started
another
a
new
five-year
cycle.
We
contemplated
not
applying
for
the
grant
because
of
the
the
challenges
with
compliance
and
the
application
process
and
as
in
it,
and
we
had
heard
from
other
jurisdictions
that
they
were
having
similar
conversations
and
possibly
not
applying
for
the
grant
for
for
very
similar
reasons.
N
M
M
It
would
create
some
capacity
to
apply
for
the
opportunity
for
more
grant
revenues.
I
think
departments
might
be
more
willing
to
pursue
new
grants
where
sometimes
it
might
be
seen
as
not
worth
it
or
too
not
enough
staff
capacity
to
take
it
on
ensure
that
grant
funds
are
spent
appropriately
with
proper
documentation.
Make
sure
that
that
we
are
minimizing
the
risk
of
having
to
return
any
grant
money
that
if
we,
if
something's,
not
done
correctly,
that
it's
found
during
a
single
audit
that
we
might
have
to
give
that
money
back.
M
I
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
guess
this
is
just
more
comment
and
just
echoing
what
I
had
mentioned
last
time
we
were
talking
about
this.
I
appreciate
the
information
about
the
sheer
load
of
coordination
that
needs
to
happen
through
this
position,
but
just
in
my
experience,
I've
spent
my
career
in
non-profit
development
specifically,
and
this
has
always
been
two
separate
positions,
managing
the
grants
and
then
going
out
and
actively
beating
bushes
and
coming
up
with
the
narrative
crafting
the
messaging,
the
coordination
of
how
do
we
go
out
and
start
lassoing
in
new
funds.
I
So
I
know
last
time
this
was
presented.
A
chunk
of
the
presentation
was
in
the
future.
This
could
potentially
be
offset
by
kind
of
the
sales
aspect
of
it
like
if
that's
the
right
term,
but
I
I
would
just
while
it's
absolutely
necessary
and
I
would
support
the
position
I
I
would
not
be
surprised
if,
in
a
couple
of
years,
this
person's
plate
is
just
completely
full
with
the
work
that
was
discussed
right
here
and
we're
hiring
a
grant
part-time
grant
fundraiser
to
go,
find
new
dollars.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council,
member
martin.
I
I
think
that's
a
pretty
good
observation,
as
somebody
who
works
in
the
you
know
in
that
realm,
I
think
you
understand
that
you
know
we.
We
talked
about
that
an
awful
lot.
The
on
the
observations
from
council
members
at
last
week's
meeting,
I
think,
are-
are
valid
that
it's.
E
D
D
M
M
The
wic
program,
the
women
infant
children
program
in
public
health
is
a
lot
of
times
also
selected
for
a
single
audit.
So
we
have.
We
do
have
those
audits
pretty
regularly.
What's
what's
new
is
the
money?
That's
like
the
cares
grant
money,
and
that,
of
course,
was
part
of
the
single
audit.
The
american
rescue
plan
money
is
going
to
be
part
of
the
single
audit.
M
That's
going
to
happen
for
the
next
few
years,
probably
up
until
2024
as
we
spend
that
money
so
and
that's
right
now.
That's
kind
of
a
team
of
people
that
are
working
on
that
and
there's
a
lot
of
documentation
and
a
lot
of
things
that
have
to
be
done
in
order
to
just
to
make
sure
that
that
we
are
meeting
the
requirements
of
that
so
and
then
the
new
federal
funds
that
are
coming
possibly
we're,
not
sure
how
that
might
come
down
for
local
governments
with
the
new
yeah.
D
D
N
N
I
I
and
the
other
people
that
I
work
with
are
lawyers,
and
we
don't
know
very
well
how
to
do
these
office
of
justice
program,
software
programs
and
inputting
all
of
this
stuff.
In
these
very
elaborate
portals-
and
I
mean
we-
I
I
it's
crazy
and
we
have
we
just
spent
so
so
much
time,
because
we
really
struggled
with
the
software
and
getting
it
to
do
what
we
needed
to
do
and
budget
adjustments.
You
know,
as
you
travel
through
the
year.
N
N
So
if
we
could
have
folks
that
were
more
naturally
inclined
to
be
working
on
it,
we
could
use
our
time
much
more
efficiently
to
lawyer
frankly
and
provide
crime
victim
liaison
services
too,
because
we
have
people
whose
job
it
is
to
do
that
who
are
being
pulled
to
make
and
not
that
they
wouldn't
have
some
role
in
it.
We
anticipate,
we
would
still
have
some
role.
We
would
be
needing
to
provide
specific
data,
but
the
inputting
in
the
you
know.
N
D
Fair
enough-
and
I
guess
my
last
question-
I
think
it
goes
to
what
councilmember
martin
had
said,
and
I
guess
the
other.
What
I'm
trying
to
get
my
head
around
is
in
terms
of
additional
grants
that
we
aren't
going
after
or
that
we
could
go
after
you
know
what
is
the
opportunity?
What
does
that
revenue
piece
look
like
and
how
quickly
could
we
get
there?
D
If
we're
able
to
find
this
unicorn,
you
know
I
personally
would
love
to
see
a
more
integrated
proposal
that
had
sort
of
that
revenue
piece
along
with
this
expense
piece.
I
appreciate
the
assistance
this
will
provide
to
staff
and
allow
them
to
focus
on
their
highest
and
best
skill
set
and
and
that,
but
just
trying
to
be
mindful
of
paying
for
it
and
or
frankly,
you
know
making
an
investment
in
some
of
our
other
priorities.
M
So
you
know
that
I
think
would
continue,
and
this
person
could
assist
with
that
and
provide
information
and
and
help
with
the
compliance
part
of
it.
But,
along
with
obtaining
new
revenues,
I
think
another
part
to
look
at.
It
is
the
risk
of
losing
money
that
we
already
are
going
to
be
awarded
and
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
complying
with
the
money
that
we
currently
are
going
to
be
receiving.
D
A
K
You
know
it
just
doesn't
work
and
we're
talking
about
expanding
that,
and
this
just
doesn't
seem
like
the
place
to
host
it.
To
me,
it
really
seems
like
it
belongs
in
the
departments
where
the
expertise
already
exists
and
then
teaching
them
how
to
manage
the
process
really
is
pretty
straightforward
and
we
have
the
structure
already
from
the
financial
standpoint
really.
Thus,
the
order
of
magnitude
of
the
dollars
really
isn't
the
guiding
principle
here,
because
it's
it's
really
more.
K
K
Understanding
another
grant
will
be
the
time
we'll
spend
next
year
again
understanding
another
grant
should
one
come.
So
I
see
this
as
kind
of
the
the
rolling
kind
of
baseline
activity
that
we
do
within
the
structure
that
we
have
today
and
again
its
number
of
grants
in
my
mind,
as
opposed
to
the
dollar
magnitude.
A
E
A
A
H
H
As
you
know,
we
are
now
we
have
this
new
ordinance
that
will
have
our
energy
disclosure
as
part
of
our
time
of
sale
program
and
as
we
started
to
talk
internally
as
a
staff,
we
started
to
look
at
how
we
were
running
the
program
with
private
inspectors
and
in-house
inspectors,
and
really
some
of
the
hurdles
and
the
things
that
we
were
having
our
customers.
Kind
of
jump
through
didn't
quite
make
sense,
as
we
talked
about
how
we
were
going
to
implement
this
new
energy
disclosure
and
some
of
the
hurdles
that
we
needed
to
overcome.
H
So
I'm
going
to
ask
duke
johnson
and
bernadette
galepsy
to
join
me
here.
Please,
mr
mayor,
that's
okay,
so
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
current
process.
What
is
being
proposed?
The
pros
and
cons,
some
historical
data
and
budget
impacts,
and
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
bernadette
to
kind
of
talk
about
they.
They
live
and
breathe
this
every
day
and
they're
closest
to
this
program.
So
thank
you.
Q
A
Q
There
you
go
much
better
okay,
so,
as
I
said,
the
customer
slash
realtor
calls
the
city
to
schedule
the
inspection
and
we
take
the
payment.
The
admin
staff
take
the
payment.
One
of
our
city.
Inspectors
goes
out
to
complete
that
inspection
and
during
that
time,
at
the
end
of
that
inspection,
the
report
is
immediately
emailed
to
that
homeowner
or
the
applicant.
Q
Q
The
customer
realtor
calls
the
private
inspector
directly
to
schedule
the
inspection
the
fee,
which
can
differ
by
each
private
inspector
and
typically
does
is
collected
by
them.
The
inspection
is
completed
and
then,
within
seven
calendar
days
per
the
city
ordinance.
The
inspector
must
submit
the
report
to
the
city.
During
this
time.
Homeowners
typically
have
a
copy
on
hand.
Q
If
that
inspector
does
not
turn
in
that
report
to
us
within
those
seven
days,
we
cannot
schedule
that
re-inspection.
So
it's
a
delay
in
time
for
that
homeowner
and
often
that
does
happen.
The
report
is
submitted.
Then,
once
we
do
receive
the
report,
there
is
an
additional
30
fee
that
we
take
in
for
the
administrative
cost
and
for
our
city
inspector
to
go
out
and
do
the
re-inspection.
Q
P
P
P
P
If
no
hazards
are
found,
a
certificate
of
compliance
is
issued
after
the
initial
inspection,
the
certificate
of
compliance
is
used
in
closing
processes
throughout
closures.
Here
in
minneapolis,
bloomington
area,
when
you
buy
a
house,
part
of
our
city
ordinance
requires
that
city
of
certificate
of
compliance
to
be
there
for
their
closing.
P
P
Okay,
pros
and
cons
of
to
to
the
city
performing
all
inspections
I'll
go
through
the
pros.
First,
providing
a
one-stop
shop,
a
shop
to
the
customers
that
will
create
a
high
level
efficiencies
mitigate
inconsistencies
between
private
inspectors
and
city
inspectors.
That
happens
more
often
than
we
care
to
deal
with
city
staff.
P
Are
the
smes
and
are
able
to
properly
answer
questions
regarding
the
trades
and
perform
a
more
informed
level
of
inspection,
the
big
one
for
us,
the
city
inspectors,
are
able
to
determine
what
items
require
permits
and
more
permits
are
pulled
when
we
do
the
tos
inspection
now,
that's
just
because
again,
we
know
what
we're
supposed
to
be
getting
permits
for.
Sometimes
the
privates
lack
in
that
ability
faster
turnaround
of
reports
due
to
immediate
inspection
results
with
city
software
versus
up
to
a
seven
day,
turnaround
time
with
the
private
inspectors.
P
That
can
become
a
big
problem
in
that
seven
days.
If
somebody's
trying
to
close
on
their
house
and
the
the
tos
inspection
is
not
there,
consistencies
of
cost.
Currently
private
inspectors
set
their
own
rates,
which
are
significantly
higher
than
city.
The
city
is
a
standard
set
rate
approved
by
the
city
council.
Q
J
J
C
Q
Yes,
so
council,
member
lohman,
mayor
and
councilmember
lemon.
So
for
that
I
would
say
it
was
it's
probably
about
a
50
50..
My
staff
has
to
check
the
inbox.
The
inspectors
will
email
in
their
inspection
reports
and
when
they
receive
those
a
lot
of
times
the
payments
aren't
available
and
so
they'll
have
to
email
them
back,
follow
up
with
phone
calls,
and
so
not
only
is
it
a
time
delay
for
the
homeowner,
but
it's
also
more
time
on
my
staff
as
well.
C
And
so
from
the
from
the
perspective
of
the
the
customer,
certainly
that
that
is
a
different
experience.
So
is
what
we're
proposing
here,
what
other
cities
are
doing
that
have
this
particular
this
set
up?
Do
they
make
this
move
or
change?
How
do
we
compare
with
other
cities,
as
we
kind
of
look
at
this?
The
shift
of
change.
Q
So
I
know
that
we
have
looked
at
it
through
other
cities
and
it's
kind
of
a
one
or
nothing.
A
hybrid
approach
doesn't
necessarily
exist,
so
it's
either
all
outsourced
or
it
is
all
in-house.
So
we're
proposing
an
all-in-house
approach
going
forward
with
the
option
to
have
the
availability
of
private
inspectors.
When
we
have
an
overflow
issue.
C
Q
It
would
it
would
require
a
reduction
in
staff
level
for
at
least
one
of
our
inspection
staff,
and
also,
we
believe
that
the
consistency
and
efficiency
of
the
building
code
would
be
reduced
greatly.
If
that
was
done
via
outsourcing
based
off
of
the
reports
that
we've
seen
and
the
requirements
for
permits
that
come
in
council
member
lewin,.
Q
Mayor
council,
member
loman,
we
did
use
other
cities
as
models
and
also
just
the
fact
that
this
is
a
city
required
ordinance
and
they
they're
expecting
the
city
to
provide
the
service
even
during
the
process,
when
private
inspectors
go
out
and
they
have
issues
with
the
private
inspectors.
They
call
the
city
mostly
duke
to
help
alleviate
some
of
those
issues,
and
so
it's
hard
for
us
because
we're
stuck
in
the
middle
of
those
issues
and
we
want
to
help
them.
Q
C
Thank
you,
that's
what
I
wanted
to
get
to
still
not
clear
about
in
terms
of
what
metrics
she
used
to
to
get
to
those
conclusions,
but
I'll
I'll
go
ahead,
and
but
that's
what
I
wanted
to
hear.
What
was
that?
That's?
What
I
asked
the
city
manager
last
week
was
to
bring
forward
what
was
the
best
experience
consistent
experience
for
our
customers.
So
I
do
appreciate
that,
though
thank.
K
K
P
Member,
I'm
not
quite
getting
your
question
but
a
lot
of
times.
If
we
see
inconsistencies
in
the
tos
reports
from
privates,
we
have
to
request
an
amended
report
and
I'm
going
through
that
process.
We
try
to
educate
the
tos
inspectors
where
they're
making
their
mistakes.
So
does
that
answer
your
question
or
do
you
have
anything.
K
P
K
P
K
E
Mr
american
council
members
council,
member
blog-
I
think
we
did
respond
to
that
last
week,
and
the
answer
was
that
when
we
were
going
through
the
ordinance
process
for
the
energy
disclosure
staff
just
didn't
identify
that.
As
as
an
issue,
it
was
only
once
we
started
looking
at
the
implementation
of
that
and
how
we're
going
to
make
it
work.
That
staff
came
to
the
determination
that
this
was
the
best
route
to
go.
K
N
N
D
D
P
Why
they
cost
so
much
more,
but
council,
member
nelson,
a
buyer's
inspection
is,
is
very
thorough.
They're
crawling
inside
the
attic
they're
they're
prying
open
areas
that
tos
inspectors
do
not
it
is.
Our
tos
program
was
built
to
provide
a
safe
home
once
the
inspection
was
made
to
pass
it
on
to
the
next
buyer
so
that
he
had
a
safe
home
when
they
or
they
had
a
safe
home
when
they
moved
into
it
home
buyers.
Inspection
is,
is
quite
a
bit
more
in
depth.
If
that's
the
question.
D
D
You
know
there
is
an
argument
that
having
one
entity
do
everything
you
know,
may
not
incentivize
that
versus
having
a
competitive
marketplace
that
would
incentivize
doing
a
better
job
of
of
things.
You
know
I
want
to
get
into
that
whole
debate,
but
my
question
is:
do
we
have
data
points
that
speak
to
that?
D
Do
you
know
in
terms
of
a
private
inspection
versus
a
city,
inspection
in
terms
of
number
of
problems,
issues
concerns
that
are
raised,
complaints,
time
frames
I
mean:
have
we
rigorously
looked
at
that
to
see
which
model
performs
better
and
it
sounds
like
there
are
other
cities
that
do
all
staff
versus
all
outsourced.
Have
we
rigorously
looked
at
the
data
between
the
two
of
those
in
terms
of
performance,
so
that
was
a
very
long
run-on
question.
Q
Q
D
D
D
You
know
I
was
concerned
about
moving
forward
a
policy
thing
through
a
budgetary
process
and
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
that
here
as
well.
You
know
because
I'm
hearing
from
one
side
that
says
you
know
we
do
a
better
job
and
we're
gonna
do
a
great
job
and
you
know
I
have
no
reason
to
doubt
any
of
those
things
but
right
now
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
data,
I'm
not
hearing
from
the
other
side.
Q
Q
Nothing
formal
has
gone
out
for
notification.
We
are
waiting
to
hear
regarding
having
the
availability
of
positions
in
our
budget
before
proposing
the
policy
change.
We
don't
want
to
propose
a
policy
change
without
having
the
available
employees
to
do
the
work,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
with
with
the
timeline.
E
This
one,
the
and
when
the
council
has
directed
us
to
do
that,
it's
usually
something
of
a
significant
community
import
or
impact,
and
in
this
circumstance
I
think
the
universe
of
people
who
are
probably
being
affected
is
not
at
the
level
that
we
would
have
typically
suggested
the
council
that
we
do
a
public
hearing,
the
the
universe
of
individuals
who
are
being
impacted.
This
are
the
private
inspectors
that
work
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
primarily
one
could
make
an
argument
that
you
know
residents
are
being
impacted
by
this.
D
Thank
you
for
that
information.
I
would
just
say
that
the
policy
impacts
every
homeowner
or
potential
homeowner
at
some
point,
they're
going
to
sell
or
buy
so
I'm
going
to
have
to
go
through
this
and
what
you
know
I
think
you
know.
Currently.
I
think
that
staff
is
looking
at
trying
to
provide
a
way
to
do
this
in
the
best
way
to
serve
residents,
and
I
don't
have
any
doubt
about
that,
but
that
impact
is
to
those
residents
and
so
appreciate
that
focus
on
there.
J
Q
C
Thanks
mayor,
so
just
a
question
from
city
manager,
you
know
I
tend
to
agree
with
a
couple
of
my
council
members.
You
know
customer
baloga
and
nelson
in
terms
of
you
know
how
this
was
handled
from
a
policy
perspective,
but
I
guess
my
question
to
you
manager
is
you
know
if
you
had
to
do
this
all
over
again?
A
E
Varugi,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
council,
members
council,
member
lohman.
Ideally,
we
would
have
identified
this
before
we
brought
the
ordinance
through.
I
think
that
that's
the
place
that
I
think
we
would
have
in
a
perfect
world
had
that
conversation
about
how
we're
going
to
conduct
the
inspections
to
the
to
the
point
of
whether
this
is
a
policy
discussion
or
a
budget
discussion,
and
I
I
understand
the
perspective
that
we
should
have
had
the
policy
discussion
separate.
E
C
So
I'm
sort
of
bringing
it
together
with
the
with
the
policy
really
isn't
any
other
way
other
than
kind
of
what
we
just
did
now,
and
so
thank
you
for
for
clarifying
that.
No,
I,
I
think
staff
has
I've
done
a
nice
job
on
this.
I
do
trust
staffs,
you
know,
even
if
it's
you
know
you,
there
aren't
hard
data
there.
C
It
is
incumbent
upon
us
if
there
is
a
certain
segment
of
the
population,
whether
it
be
a
private
sect,
private
sector
segment,
to
have
an
additional
scrutiny
on
that
process,
especially
since
this
will
benefit
the
city
both
financially,
but
I
think
the
real
reason
why
we
made
this
move
is
because
of
the
benefit
to
to
the
to
to
our
our
residents
and
our
customers.
So
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
what
they
put
together
and
moving
forward
on
this.
Thank
you.
Q
A
E
I
hope
we
didn't
cause
any
indigestion
over
the
weekend.
I
will
let
council
know
and
let
the
community
know
there
will
be
information
in
the
bloomington
sun
current
that
comes
out
this
week,
consistent
with
the
information
that
we
presented
last
week,
talking
about
the
proposed
tax
levy
and
making
sure
that
the
community
is
seeing
that
information,
knowing
that
truth
and
taxation
hearing
is
coming
next
monday
night
and
that
way
folks
have
a
chance
to
see
the
information
on
their
doorstep
before
that
meeting
occurs.
A
E
Mr
mayor,
there
was
reference
earlier
when
we're
working
through
with
upcoming
meeting
agendas
that
we
don't
have
a
meeting
on
december
13th.
We
did
have
it
originally
on
the
schedule,
but
council
members,
I
think,
are
aware
the
mayor
and
I
will
be
traveling
that
weekend
so
we're
not
going
to
have
a
meeting.
We
would
not
be
able
to
be
accessible
for
that.
Hopefully
nobody
feels
put
out
by
that,
but
we
still
have
meetings
scheduled
for
december
6
and
and
december
20th.
So
we
will
update
our
council
calendars
to
reflect
that
change.
C
Mayor
during
my
technical
problems,
I
I
did
get
an
opportunity
to
ask
some
questions
of
staff
via
phone
with
regard
to
7.6
and
if,
if
we
were
able
to
retake
up
that
right
now,
so
just
in
case
somebody
were
to
come
down
with
covet
on
december
20th
we'd
be
able
to
get
that
voted
through
I'd
be
happy
to
move
that
through
today.
We
could
do
that.
A
So
I'd
look
to
ms
manderscheid
to
get
us
through
this,
so
we
don't
step
in
any
legal
mess
here.
I
I
think
a
motion
of
reconsideration
is
what
we'd
have
to
consider
here.
Is
that
correct
made
by
it
sounds
like
council,
member
lowman
and
with
a
second
and
then
a
vote
on
that
and
then
to
be
able
to
go
back
to
item
7.6.
Is
that
correct.
N
It
remembers
yes,
so
I
believe-
and
certainly
people
are
welcome
to
disagree,
but
it
seems
to
me,
like
the
motion,
that's
seen
being
sought
to
be
considered
reconsidered.
The
only
one
that
was
made
was
the
one
to
table.
This
item
postponed
this
item
to
december
20th.
That
was
a
7-0
vote.
A
motion
to
reconsider
has
to
be
made
by
someone
that
voted
on
the
prevailing
side
of
the
issue,
so
anyone
could
make
that
could
make
that
motion
to
reconsider.
N
A
A
So
we
have
a
motion
to
reconsider
our
our
action
where
we
tabled
this
until
I
tabled
item
7.6
until
december
20th.
Do
we
have
a
second
for
that
second
logo?
I
have
a
motion
by
council
member
lowman,
a
second
by
council
member
buloga,
to
reconsider
our
motion.
Our
actions
council
discussions
on
this.
A
N
Mayor
members
in
in
consulting
robert's
rules,
here
they
recommend
or
mr
roberts-
I
guess-
recommends
that
the
motion
include
the
the
a
description
of
what
you
want
to
do
in
order
to
in
order
to
emotion
of
what
you
want
to
be
able
to
do.
That
would
violate
the
rules.
So,
for
example,
I
believe
what
councilmember
lohmann
is
suggesting
is
moving
to
suspend
the
rules
to
allow
the
council
to
take
up
item
7.6
again
and
take
possible
action
on
the
recommended
organs.
A
C
I
A
To
your
original
motion
is
that
how
we're
doing
that,
because
we
do
have
the
original
motion
on
the
table
so
council?
Member
blog,
would
you
agree
to
that?
Second,
I
do
very
good,
so
we
had
a
the
amended
motion
to
bring
up
item
7.6
once
again,
councilmember
lohman
the
floor
is
yours.
I
guess
we
were.
I
counted
noses.
I
think
we
were
kind
of
in
agreement
headed
in
the
right
direction,
looking
to
you
to
to
to
see
what
direction
or
why?
C
Yep
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
go
ahead
and
move
this,
so
we
can
pass
this.
I
was
able
to
get
my
questions
answered
off
air
there's
some
things
I
didn't
want
to
ask
online,
so
I
think
I'm
all
set
and
I'm
ready
that
to
make
that
make
the
initial
motion
do.
We
need
to
vote
on
that
suspended
motion
first
until.