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From YouTube: October 12, 2020 Bloomington City Council Study Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota City Council Study Meeting
A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
I'd
like
to
call
this
august
12
study
meeting
of
the
blooming
city
council
to
order
we
have
six
different
items
on
tonight's
agenda
and
we'll
get
to
them
in
just
a
minute,
but
first,
if
we
could
call
the
royal
miss
christensen.
If
you
could,
please
call
the
role
of
the
council.
A
A
Present
so
we
have
five
members
of
the
city
council.
I
know
that
councilmember
martin
had
a
family
obligation,
he's
not
able
to
join
us
this
evening
and
it
sounds
like
councilmember.
Nelson
is
fighting
some
technical
issues
and
we
will
acknowledge
him
when
he
is
online
and
ready
to
go
with
that.
We'll
dive
right
into
our
agenda
for
the
evening
and
we'll
start
with
item
2.1,
which
is
a
summary
of
council
interviews.
Regarding
the
park
system
master
plan.
A
C
Good
evening,
mayor
boosie
members
of
council
in
august
and
september,
you
all
generously
gave
us
your
time
to
individually
discuss
how
you
view
the
bloomington
park
system
today
and
provide
us
guidance
on
how
to
get
there.
A
brief
summary
of
that
was
provided
in
your
packet
tonight.
I'm
excited
to
report
that
the
feedback
that
you
all
provided
was
really
consistent
and
we
are
using
that
to
move
ahead
and
make
real
progress
continue
to
make
progress
on
the
master
plan.
C
Three
main
areas
we
discussed
were
the
vision
for
our
park
system.
You
all
generally
really
acknowledge
the
great
park
system
we
have
today,
but
also
saw
the
need
for
updating
and
to
make
improvements.
We
talked
a
bit
about
cost
recovery
and
increasing
fees
which
was
all
supported
as
well
with
a
fee
assistance
program
accompanied.
C
Finally,
a
big
area
of
discussion
and
really
helpful
feedback
for
staff
was
around
capital
improvement
planning.
There
were
two
major
concepts
introduced.
One
was
a
service
area
planning
framework
that
generally
uses
council
districts
to
define
service
areas,
which
we
would
then
look
to
create
balance
of
amenities
and
experiences
within
each
service
area.
C
Secondly,
we
talked
about
community
driven
planning
and
design
process
for
individual
park
improvements
that
were
more
substantial,
maybe
than
just
a
playground
replacement,
but
a
bigger
investment
in
a
park.
We
would
do
a
more
comprehensive
design
and
planning
process
with
the
community
to
look
at
not
just
replacing
what's
there,
but
how
can
we
provide
new
experiences
and
amenities
to
serve
the
community
and
how
does
that
fit
within
each
that
service
area
that
it
sits
in
and
with
the
community?
C
These
concepts
were
also
supported
by
council.
So
thank
you
again
for
your
really
thoughtful
feedback
on
all
these
areas
and
taking
the
time
with
us
staffs,
using
this
feedback
again
to
continue
to
make
progress
on
the
plan,
specifically
in
those
areas
of
our
cost
recovery
framework
and
capital
planning.
We
will
be
back
before
you
in
november
with
more
of
these
details,
based
on
what
we
learned
from
you
and
what
we
continue
to
learn
from
the
community.
A
G
G
C
A
Seeing
none,
I
I
know
verde
and
ann.
I
know
that
the
park
master
plan
has
got
its
own
world
in
the
the
city
of
bloomington
website.
I'm
assuming
that
these
latest
developments,
the
the
summary
of
the
the
council
input
on
this
and
all
that
information.
If
it's
not
already,
it
will
be
online
soon
for
folks
to
to
have
at
their
disposal
and
be
able
to
read
through
and
get
a
better
idea
of
the
directions
that
we're
heading
here.
C
Marbusi
members
of
council,
we
are
in
the
process
of
setting
up
our
let's
talk
page
on
the
city
of
bloomington's
new
community
engagement
platform.
So
we
will
be
using
that,
in
addition
to
the
page
on
the
city
website,
to
include
the
summary
of
that,
including
the
new
summary.
We
are
just
finishing
of
the
project.
Bloom
engagement
as
well.
A
A
At
this
point,
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
council
member
nelson
has
joined
us,
I'm
assuming
you
fought
through
your
technical
issues,
council
member
and
are
with
us
once
again
so
welcome
aboard,
and
I
would
like
to
move
on
to
item
number
2.2
on
our
agenda,
which
is
a
report
on
trees
in
the
city
and
mr
carl
kiel
from
our
public
works.
Director
is
going
to
be
presenting
this,
and
I
know
we've
got
a
number
of
other
folks
from
our
city,
forestry
and
city
attorney's
office,
to
talk
to
us
about
this
as
well.
A
H
H
Good,
thank
you.
So
I'm
going
to
give
a
presentation
today,
but
I'd
also
like
to
say
that
we
have
a
couple
other
staff
members
that
are
on
the
line
for
questions
so
from
legal.
We
have
our
city
attorney,
melissa,
manderscheid
and
maureen
o'brien.
Our
assistant
city
attorney,
is
also
available
for
questions
and
dave
hanson.
Our
city
forester,
is
also
joined
us
this
evening.
H
H
H
As
the
mayor
indicated,
there
was
some
interest
expressed
in
the
past
to
try
to
increase
the
involvement
of
the
city
in
trees
on
private
trees,
and
so
we're
asking
you
should
we
explore
ways
to
expand
our
involvement
on
private
trees
and,
if
so,
to
what
degree
so
I'll
run
through
each
of
these,
these
types
of
trees,
diseased
trees.
These
are
trees
that
are
typically
infested
by
some
type
of
insect
or
pest
in
bloomington.
H
H
Currently
we
provide
kind
of
a
wide
range
of
services
around
the
diseased
trees.
We
provide
advice
to
folks
if
they
call
and
have
questions
we
inspect
private
trees
would
note
that
about
75
percent
of
the
trees
that
we
inspect
are.
The
inspection
is
initiated
by
city
staff.
They
either
they
have
seen
kind
of
indications
or
there's
a
kind
of
an
outbreak
in
a
neighborhood,
and
so
75
of
the
trees
are
are
kind
of
initiated
by
the
city
and
probably
about
25
percent
are
initiated
by
private
property
owners.
H
We
issue
tags
and
enforce
those
tags
for
removal
of
trees.
We
actually
even
provide
a
contract
that
the
homeowners
are
able
to
use
if
they
like.
We
have
a
a
contract
that
has
set
pricing
for
different
types
of
trees
in
different
situations
and
if
needed,
we
would
assess
the
cost
of
that
removal
as
well.
H
On
the
hazardous
tree
side.
These
are
trees
that
have
some
type
of
structural
defect
in
them
and
if
they
were,
if
they
were
to
fail,
they
could
cause
some
damage
or
injury.
Now.
The
common
definition
of
hazardous
trees
is
that
it
has
to
have
two
criteria.
One
is
that
it
has
a
structural
defect
or
a
hazard
and
that
it
has
a
target
so
that,
if
it
did
fail,
it
would
fall
on
something
a
house,
a
shed
or
a
play
area
or
something
so
a
tree.
H
Currently,
we
are
not
involved
in
an
active
way
with
hazardous
trees,
but
we
do
provide
advice
to
homeowners
and
would
note
that
we're
very
careful
not
to
give
structural
assessments,
because
we
are
trying
to
avoid
those
liability
issues
associated
with
making
that
determination.
We
basically
if
we
think
that
there
may
be
some
concern.
H
A
H
H
Oftentimes
dead
trees
are
are
kept
for
wildlife,
habitat
or
in
some
cases
people
find
them
to
be
kind
of
aesthetically,
pleasing
in
city
parks,
for
instance
in
naturalized
areas.
We
do
not
remove
dead
trees
unless
they
are
a
hazard.
That
is
that
they
have
a
target
under
them,
and
we
do
that
primarily
because
they
provide
pretty
good
wildlife,
habitat.
H
I
know
my
brother
lived
in
utah
for
many
years
and
there
people
would
advertise
that
their
lots
had
cottonwood
trees.
They
were
a
very
desirable
tree
in
utah,
and
here
people
would
never
say
they
have
a
cottonwood
tree
on
their
on
their
their
property.
People
would
rather
see
them
or
oftentimes
would
rather
see
them
removed.
So
it's
quite
subjective
whether
a
tree
is
unsightly
or
disfavored.
H
H
So
some
other
considerations
just
to
keep
in
mind.
Currently
we
spend
about
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
in
staff
time
to
manage
private,
our
private
disease
tree
program.
This
is
to
do
the
inspections
and
to
kind
of
arrange
for
removal
and
to
check
on
orders
and
everything
involved
with
diseased
trees
on
private
property.
H
H
H
That
may
be
a
financial
burden
to
some,
and
would
also
note
that
different
ethnic
communities
have
different
aesthetic
standards
and
some
may
find
certain
types
of
trees
to
be
an
asset
and
others
might
find
them
objectionable.
And
so
I
think,
there's
there
may
be
differing
opinions
between
different
communities
within
bloomington.
H
And
with
that,
that's
a
quick
summary
of
the
memo
and
again
we
have
guests
available
to
answer
more
detailed
aspects
of
legal
or
a
forestry
we'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
have
a
conversation
again
we're
looking
for
some
direction
for
the
count
from
the
council
if
they
would
like
staff
to
develop
more
detailed
proposals
for
increased
involvement
in
trees,
private
trees
in
the
city.
And
if,
if
you
are
to
what
degree,
would
you
like
us
to
explore
those.
I
So
I
thank
you
both
for
the
information
that
was
in
the
packet
and
also
kind
of
what
you
shared
today,
so
just
a
quick
kind
of
just
a
financial
kind
of
question,
so
I
saw
a
55k
for
the
amount
that
would
be
charged
to
provide
this
particular
service
that
we
have
ongoing
right.
Now,
that's
annual
I'm
assuming
for
that
amount.
Does
that
include
the
department
fees
that
are
charged
you
know,
or
is
that
a
different
amount
be
above
and
beyond
that.
H
I
H
Yes,
definitely
would
and
again,
if
you
wanted
us
to
go
ahead
with
this,
we
would
do
a
better
analysis
of
what
we
think
that
extra
cost
would
be
depending
on
what
you'd
like
us
to
investigate-
and
I
only
shared
that
number
to
say.
If
say
we
got
into
a
damaged
program
or
a
hazardous
tree
program.
I
think,
without
doing
a
lot
of
analysis,
I
think
it
would
certainly
be
on
the
same
range
of
additional
cost.
I
H
That's
what
the
bulk
of
it
is.
Yes,
the
other
portion
of
that
would
be
to
manage
that
tree
contract
that
we
have.
So
if
people
would
like
us
to
help
them
remove
a
tree,
we
would
put
a
work
order
into
the
contractor
that
we
have
on
an
order,
and
then
we
would
manage
the
cost
of
that
we'd
have
to
bill
them,
make
sure
they
paid
make
sure
the
contractor
performed
properly
all
those
things,
but
the
bulk
of
it
is
the
inspection
and
writing
of
orders
pieces
of
that.
I
I
One
other
last
question
here
and
I'll:
let
you
go.
Are
there
other
cities
that
are
doing
this?
Is
there
a
way
to
create
a
joint
program?
Kind
of
like
we
have
with
the
health
program?
Has
that
been
explored
at
all
where
we
could
work
in
a
group
in
tandem,
maybe
richfield
or
edina,
possibly
doing
this
type
of
work?
Is
there
a
way
to
kind
of
partner
with
that
help
bring
that
cost
down?
If
we
were
to
explore
some
of
those
other
areas.
H
I'm
not
aware
of
any
communities
that
are
providing
forestry
services
to
each
other.
That
may
be
an
area
where
we,
we
might
see
some
some
benefits
of
of
sharing
costs,
etc.
Would
note
that
many
cities
have
their
forestry
programs
vary
so
minneapolis,
for
instance,
has
a
disease
security
program,
but
it
also
has
a
very
active
reforestation
program
for
the
city
and
takes
care
of
boulevard,
trees
and
all
those
types
of
things.
So
they
have
a
much
more
robust
forestry
program
than
we
do,
and
I
expect
some.
H
J
J
I
do
council,
member
baloga
so
I'll
just
give
you
some
numbers,
because
I
have
them
right
up
here.
I
was
kind
of
prepared
for
this.
So
last
year,
or
so
far
this
year
we
marked
about
150
private
trees
for
removal.
We
still
got
a
couple
months
last
year.
It
was
in
the
180
range
and
then
150
the
year
before
it
varies
by
the
amount
of
disease
we're
observing
back
in
the
heyday
of
dutch
elm
disease.
J
There
was
a
lot
more
of
that
now,
with
eab
we're
out
doing
preemptive,
removals
and
and
marking
on
public
property
like
boulevards
and
parks,
and
we're
only
going
after
the
private
trees
once
they've
become
extremely
obvious
that
they're
infested
with
the
ab
I
do
expect
that
to
tick
up
in
the
next
few
years,
as
eab
becomes
more
more
apparent
on
private
property
that
you
know
where
they
haven't
been
dealt
with.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
J
J
K
So
I
suspect
that
you
probably
pitched
in
with
carl
on
the
presentation
materials-
and
I
I
have
a
few
questions
on
distinguishing
between
hazardous
and
dead
trees
and,
and
the
reason
is,
is
that
we
know
that
a
dead
tree
sooner
or
later
is
going
to
break
and
fall
right.
I
mean
it,
they
don't
stand
up
forever.
K
Yeah,
so
they
they
get
to
be
intertwined
between
hazardous
and
dead
trees.
Absolutely
so
all
hazardous
trees
are
not
necessarily
potentially
hazard
and
same
with
all
dead
trees
right
right,
okay
and-
and
I
think
what
the
public,
who
has
contacted
me-
and
I
I
get
quite
a
number
of-
and
it's
from
somebody's
dead
tree
falling
across
a
property
line
onto
a
house
causing
damage,
and
today
we
don't
have
any
means
to
be
proactive
to
help
with
the
removal
of
those
trees.
K
And
so
what
what
I'd
like
to
see
console
do
is
is
enact
ordinances
so
that
our
city
can
look
at
hazardous
and
dead
trees
as
respects
to
danger
to
either
property
or
human
life
on
private
property.
And
if
there
are
one
of
those
conditions
that
exist,
then
under
the
proposed
ordinance
would
be
able
to
remove
a
system
and
removal
and,
if
necessary,
to
assess
the
cost
of
the.
K
J
E
From
the
legal
perspective,
the
difference
would
be
that
of
a
nuisance,
in
that
it
might
be.
If
we
drafted
an
ordinance
related
to
this,
it
would
seem
like
it
would
be
more
likely
that
it
would
be
characterized
as
a
public
nuisance
if
the
tree
was
to
fall
onto
the
neighbor's
property
as
compared
to
if
the
target
was
on
one's
own
property,
that
would
be
a
different
characterization
and
that
there
would
be
no
public
nuisance
to
that.
A
H
F
Okay,
so
for
hazardous
trees,
my
understanding,
based
on
what
you
said,
is
that
our
role
is
typically.
You
know
we
work
with
the
homeowners
and
then
we
typically
encourage
them
to
work
with
an
arborist
who
will
help
them
get
the
research
the
tree
removed.
We
usually
stay
out
of
it
because
of
liability
issues.
Did
I
hear
you
correct.
H
Again,
so
if
if
there
was
a
tree
and
we
made
a
determination
that
it
was
not
hazardous
or
we
looked
at
a
tree
and
someone
said
I'm
worried
about
this
tree
and
we
came
out
and
inspected
it
and
we
said
that
looks
pretty
good.
We
don't
need
to
do
anything
with
that
tree
because
it
had
the
rot.
Maybe
inside
we
didn't
know
where
it
was
and
and
it
fell,
we
would
have
some
liability
for
having
made
a
determination
about
the
structural
significance
of
the
tree.
H
Likewise,
there's
oftentimes
there
may
be
a
tree,
that's
it's
difficult
to
tell
how
it
might
fall
or
what
the
targets
might
be
of
that
tree.
You
know
large
trees
can
twist
and
move
in
lots
of
different
directions.
We
may
say:
well,
it's
really
not
it's
it's
damaged,
but
it
may
take
some
some
time
before.
We
think
it
would
actually
fall
and
so
we'd
be
making
a
determination
that
we'd
be
held
liable
for
so
in
in
arborists.
F
H
A
Obviously
I
think
we
want
to
stay
in
the
business
of
disease
trees
to
to
manage
the
the
tree
stock
in
the
in
the
city
and
manage
diseased
trees
like
dutch
elm
disease
and
the
emerald
ash
borer
I'll
jump
all
the
way
down
to
the
bottom
and
then
say
unsightly
trees,
and
I
I
do
think
that's
you
know.
A
matter
of
beauty
is
in
the
eye
of
the
beholders.
A
So
it
brings
us
somewhere
in
the
middle
with
the
hazardous
and
dead
trees,
and
I
think
council,
member
beloga
brought
up
a
good
point
and
council.
Remember,
nelson
brought
a
good
point
as
well
that
I
do
think
I
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
a
proposal
regarding
a
policy
of
some
kind,
an
ordinance
of
some
kind
regarding
a
hazardous
tree,
but
most
specifically
a
hazardous
tree
to
somebody
else's
property.
A
If
somebody
has
a
a
dead
or
unsightly
or
a
hazardous
tree
in
the
middle
of
their
own
yard,
and
if
it
falls,
it's
only
basically
going
to
fall
in
their
yard
or
on
their
house,
and
they
choose
to
keep
that.
I
think
that's
one
thing,
but
if
it's,
if
it's
on
a
property
line
or
if
it's
poised
over
a
neighbor's
garage,
I
think
it's
an
entirely
different
issue
and
would
be
something
that
I
would
be
interested
in.
Exploring.
A
But
I
and
personally
I
think,
it's
worth
at
least
looking
at,
because
I've
also
heard
from
some
homeowners
about
this-
not
a
not
a
huge
number,
but
enough
that
it
comes
up
at
least
periodically
in
my
inbox
or
in
my
phone
and
and
frankly
just
seeing
it
as
you
as
you
cross
the
city
and
look
through
the
neighborhoods
and
being
out
and
about
you
can
see.
You
can
identify
that.
That
would
be
an
issue
if
it
was
my
neighbor's
tree
over
my
garage
or
over
my
driveway,
like
that.
A
I
had
an
issue
and
I
would
like
somebody
to
think
about
that.
So
that's
my
thought
that
it
would
be
a
worthwhile
discussion
to
continue
without
committing
one
way
or
another
that
we're
absolutely
going
to
go
down
the
road
that
we
that
we
made.
But
I
think
it's
it's
worth
to
continue
that
discussion.
A
K
Thank
you
and
I
agree
with
your
assessment
and
I
think
that's
the
next
logical
step,
so
I
think
that
would
be
including
the
comments
that
council
member
nelson
added
to
my
earlier
comments
too.
So
this
is
really
protection
for
poems
that
are
adjacent
to
not
the
individual
homeowner,
because
they
have
total
control
over
that.
If,
if
you're
the
neighbor
to
somebody
who
has
a
hazardous
or
dead
tree
that
threatens
your
property
today,
your
hands
are
tied
in
what
can
be
done
other
than
to
wait
for
the
event.
K
A
Council
anything
else
on
that,
if
not
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
2.3,
which
is
our
community
budget
advisory
committee,
update
and
a
budget
packages
recommendations-
and
we
have
with
us
this
evening
in
the
council
chambers
our
two
co-chairs
of
the
community
budget
advisory
committee,
mr
steve
peterson
and
mr
neil
peterson
not
related,
and
they
have
been
working
diligently,
they
in
their
community
have
been
working.
Our
committee
have
been
working
diligently
since
july.
We
greatly
appreciate
your
work
and
your
leadership
on
this
gentleman.
A
Thank
you
so
very
much
and
know
that
you
and
your
your
committee
and
and
the
staff
have
put
in
a
lot
of
hours
on
this,
and
I
know
it's
been.
It's
been
a
challenge
in
some
cases
I
know
it's
been
informative.
I
know,
there's
been
some
good
back
and
forth.
I've
been
watching
and
listening
to
the
debate
and
I'm
interested
to
hear
what
what
you're
going
to
bring
forward
and
the
recommendations
you're
going
to
be
making
to
the
council
so
good
evening
and
welcome.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
L
That's
on
the
low
side
kind
of
walking
through
the
the
kind
of
city's
budget
and
the
budget
issue
that
we
have
and
we've
come
together
on
kind
of
preliminary
set
of
budget
scenarios
that
we
want
to
talk
about
tonight,
we'll
be
also
talking
to
the
community
about
these
later
this
week
and
then
coming
back
with
the
final
set
of
recommendations
at
the
beginning
of
beginning
of
november.
So
if
you
could
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
please
this
is
the
agenda.
We'll
have
a
little
bit
of
background.
L
We'll
talk
about
the
information
sources
that
the
committee
has
been
using.
The
process
we've
been
going
through
then
we'll
kind
of
dive
into
the
scenarios
that
we
have,
and
then
we
have
some
next
steps
and
if
you
look
at
the
top
of
this
slide
for
folks
who
are
watching,
if
you
have
feedback,
you
can
go
to
the
committee's
website
that
url
will
show
up
on
each
of
these
pages
and
share
your
feedback
on
the
present
on
on
what
we're
up
to.
So
if
we
could
move
to
the
next
slide.
L
Just
a
quick
recap
on
this
because
we
presented
on
this
before
and
kind
of
had
quite
a
bit
of
conversation
about
it.
But
basically
the
big
issue
in
the
city
budget
is
lodging
and
diminished
taxes
being
down
due
to
the
pandemic.
And
if
you
look
at
the
slide,
you
can
see
how
we've
gone
from
collecting
about
10
million
dollars
in
taxes
in
2019.
L
That's
gonna
be
down
next
year
by
about
five
million.
It
was
down
about
six
million
this
year
and
that's
really
the
at
that.
There's
some
other
minor
things,
but
that's
really
at
the
crux
of
the
issue
that
the
committee
is
is
after.
So,
if
you
move
on
to
the
next
slide
for
folks
who
might
be
getting
introduced
to
this
topic
for
the
first
time
again,
you
can
go
to
the
committee
website
and
you
know,
as
neil
mentioned,
there's
those
40
hours
of
recorded
meetings.
L
You
can
watch
our
meetings
and
learn
all
of
the
detailed
information
on
that.
We've
also
got
a
bunch
of
budget
documents,
some
information
from
the
staff
service
assessments
and
a
bunch
of
other
information
that
we
used
as
an
input
to
the
process
that
we
went
through
so
now,
I'll,
move
on
and
we'll
talk
about
the
preliminary
recommendations.
L
If
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
process
on
the
next
slide
here
that
we've
been
going
through,
there's
really
three
things
that
we
have
steps
that
we've
been
going
through
in
terms
of
kind
of
building
these
budget
scenarios.
The
first
one
is
part
of
kind
of
the
initial
conversations
that
we
had
is.
We
did
identify
a
couple
of
capital
project
savings
and
if
you
look
in
those
boxes
on
the
left,
we
decided
that
we
would
recommend
next
year
skipping
savings
toward
the
pool
replacement.
L
I
believe
that's
2026
is
the
year
that
that
is
scheduled
for
and
say
basically
that,
instead
of
saving
for
that,
we
would
finance
that
at
that
point
in
time
and
then
similarly
reducing
the
abatement
for
the
normandale
lake
district
in
in
kind
of
sharpening
the
pencils,
we
were
able
to
find
that
the
money
that
was
getting
side
aside
there.
We
don't
really
need
to
set
aside
as
much
for
that,
so
that
also
kind
of
took
650
000
out.
So
those
two
numbers
are
built
in
to
the
kind
of
basic
budget
scenarios
that
we
have.
L
The
other
area
that
we
focused
on
was
on
revenue
revenue
forecast
for
the
hospitality
industry
and
the
committee.
When
we
we,
we
ended
up
getting
three
proposals
from
the
staff
or
three
kind
of
scenarios
from
the
staff
on
that
there
was
a
optimistic
scenario.
There
was
kind
of
a
middle
of
the
road
scenario
and
there
was
a
pessimistic
scenario
and
neil.
It
must
have
been
that
our
committee
was
filled
with
pessimists
because
we
all
said
we're
going
to
take
that
pessimistic
scenario
and
that's
the
one
we're
going
to
do
well.
L
If
we
look
at
what's
happened
since
this
summer
in
the
hospitality
industry,
particularly
what's
happened,
is
we
really
haven't
seen
a
whole,
a
big
resurgence
in
business
travel
and
travel
that
was
related
to
families
going
out
necessarily,
schools
started
back
up
and
a
lot
of
families
aren't
traveling.
So
the
hospitality
industry
forecast
has
tracked
much
more
closely
to
that
pessimistic
scenario,
and
that
is
the
one
that
we
selected
and
it's
turned
out
to
have
been
the
right
decision
to
do
that.
L
So
those
are
that
combination
of
two
things
is
really
what
we
used
on
the
the
income
side
to
determine
what
what
we
were
going
to
plan
on
for
there
and
then
the
final
set
of
work-
and
this
is
what
we're
talking
about
tonight-
is
the
budget
productions.
And
so,
if
you
look
at
the
table
on
the
right,
that
has
the
three
property
tax
scenarios
of
five
percent.
Three
percent
and
zero
percent
you'll
see
that
those
are
dollar
amounts
for
budget
reductions
that
are
needed
to
achieve
each
of
those.
L
L
So
we're
going
to
test
out
your
eyesight
and
move
on
to
the
next
slide
here,
because
this
slide
and
we're
going
to
dive
into
this
in
a
little
bit
more
detail.
But
this
slide
at
a
summary
level
shows
you
the
different
scenarios
that
were
that
we're
working
with
here
so
over
on
the
left.
There
you
can
see
the
original
budget,
and
just
something
to
point
out
here
is:
if
you
look
at
the
police
department
and
the
public
works
area
and
parkinson's
recreation
in
the
city,
right
actually
really
police
and
public
works.
L
L
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
kind
of
how
this
chart
works
a
little
bit
and
then
we'll
go
and
focus
in
a
little
bit
on
each
of
the
scenarios
and
talk
about
them.
So
in
that
section
that
that,
with
the
three
columns,
that's
headed
by
the
five
percent
levy,
the
reduction
column
is
the
dollar
amount
of
the
reductions
that
we
have
in
that
department.
G
L
L
If
you
then
go
to
the
next
column,
where
it
says
it
says,
percent
of
reductions,
that's
that
348
000.
That
represents
about
22
of
the
total
set
of
reductions
for
that
particular
for
at
the
five
percent
levy.
And
then
the
third
column
indicates
what's
the
budget
reduction
in
terms
of
the
percent
of
the
budget.
For
that
area
that's
being
reduced
and
in
this
particular
case,
the
2.7
million
dollar
budget.
That
number
you
see
over
there
on
the
left
is
being
reduced
by
twelve
point.
L
L
L
L
So
with
that
introduction,
we'll
kind
of
move
on
to
the
next
page,
where
things
get
a
little
bit
bigger,
and
we
talk
about
the
actual
set
of
changes
that
we're
doing
here.
So
I
had
sent
in
the
email
to
the
console
links
to
two
supporting
documents
that
are
posted
on
that
see
back
website
that
again,
that's
the
url.
That's
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
of
the
slide
for
those
are
following
along
at
home.
L
L
L
You
can
see
that
in
the
list
of
items
on
the
right
there
there
are
a
bunch
of
things
that
impact
services
that
are
delivered
by
the
park
and
recreation
department.
There
are
also
fee
increases
too,
and
this
can
this.
This
reflects
both
those
fee
increases
and
the
reduced
services
there
and
then
finally,
we
see
reductions
in
the
public
works
department
reflected
in
here
as
well.
L
So
if
we
can
advance
it
to
the
three
percent
scenario
at
this
particular
area
level,
the
reductions
here
tend
to
start
falling
a
little
bit
more
heavily
on
parks
and
rec
and
public
works
and
community
development
in
this
particular
area
and
community
development,
in
particular
the
leaving
the
community
development
director
job
unfilled.
There's
a
couple
different
positions
there
that
we'd
be
left
unfilled
and
I
can't
remember,
is
the
traffic
calming
paid
for
out
of
community
development
or
is
that
other
public
works?
L
And
if
you
look
here
at
the
zero
percent
levy,
you
know
we
have
almost
a
million
dollars
in
reduction
in
the
in
the
police
department
totaling
at
this
particular
area,
which
is
about
20
of
the
total
set
of
reductions,
and
that's
because
at
this
level
really,
we
had
to
start
making
some
really
difficult
decisions.
And
if
you
look
over
on
the
right
there,
there's
quite
a
few
kind
of
public
safety
related
expenses
that
were,
we
would
be
talking
about
not
not
having
for
for
2021.
If
this
particular
level
was
adopted.
L
L
I
I
L
I
So
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
follow
all
of
what
you
guys
have
done,
so
I
know
that
when
originally
this
came
before
when
we
made
the
charge
for
the
the
the
subcommittee
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
that
I
mentioned
is
about
this
issue
of
looking
at
these
things
through
a
lens
of
equity.
Can
you
help
me
understand
and
just
for
the
general
public,
how
we
looked
through
those
lenses?
L
Yeah,
so
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
ways
that
we
address
that
particular
question.
One
is
we
had
very
targeted
feedback
scenario,
feedback
sessions
that
were
ordered
toward
groups
that
might
otherwise
not
be
as
well
represented
at
the
in
the
city's
budget
process,
and
so
we
had
a.
In
particular,
we
had
a
bipod
community
and
a
latino
latina
community
session
where
we
gathered
specific
feedback.
I
L
And
so
we
so
just
to
be
clear
councilmember
we
did
not.
We
did
not
take
the
specific
feedback
and
compare
it
to
the
list
in
terms
of
as
we
were
ranking
things.
What
we
did
is
we
educated
the
committee
members
on
here's,
where
that
impact
ends
up
landing,
and
it
was
one
of
all
of
the
different
factors
that
the
committee
members
considered
when
they
were
ranking
particular
items.
I
L
And
that
was
cool,
and
just
just
one
more
thing,
if
I
can
counsel
member
lawman,
you
know
we.
It
was
interesting
to
hear
that
feedback,
because
we
heard
obviously
you
know
you
know
we
really
worked
hard
to
get
that
feedback.
But
what
I
thought
was
interesting
about
it
is
that
we
heard
both
feedback
about
kind
of
the
social
services
part
of
the
what
the
council
and
the
city
does.
L
But
we
also
heard
people's
concerns
just
kind
of
about
basic
kind
of
public
safety
services
and,
as
you
can
see
in
here,
the
kind
of
public
safety
services
are
a
big
part
of
the
budget,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
it's
it's
not
like
that
feedback
all
weighed
on
some
particular
set
of
items.
You
know,
I
think
we
we
heard
from
we
heard
you
know
in
many
places
in
the
budget
that
people
cared
about
that
particular
area.
L
I
One
last
piece:
so
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
process:
okay,
just
for
the
public's
benefit.
How
did
this
list
get
to?
It?
Did
each
individual
person
on
the
committee
ranking
up
and
down,
and
then
we
put
it
together
or
how?
How
did
we
get
to
this
particular
list
that
we
have
before
us
today
with
the
the
three
different
budget
proposals?
L
A
that's
a
really
great
question.
You
know,
so
one
of
the
things
that
the
committee
has
tried
really
hard
to
do
has
been
to
try
to
operate
by
consensus.
So
we're
not
we're
not
a
big
group
for
having
votes
on
things,
we're
about
discussing
things
and
see
if
we
can
identify
common
ground
on
stuff
the
way
the
actual
ranking
process
worked.
Is
we
on
two
consecutive
weeks
we
did
kind
of
dot
ranking
exercises
where
each
committee
member
had
the
same
number
of
red,
dots,
yellow
dots
and
green
dots.
L
Red
dots
mean
I.
I
don't
think
we
should
be
cutting.
That
green
said.
I'm
okay
with
that,
so,
like
travel
got
a
lot
of
green.
You
know
if
you
look
way
down
on
that
list
in
the
spreadsheet.
Those
would
be
things
that
got
lots
of
red,
and
so
we
did
kind
of
a
dry
run
one
week
just
to
just
to
see
how
things
kind
of
came
out
and
kind
of
get
people
familiar
with
the
the
idea
of
doing
the
ranking
and
how
people
were
feeling
about
it
and
then
the
next
week.
L
We
did
that
same
exercise
again
and
use
that
in
order
to
set
weights
for
things,
and
then
we
took
the
result
of
that
and
we
had
the
staff
look
at
it
and
see
if
there
were
any
obvious
areas
where
like
we
should
be
combining
things
together
or
taking
things
apart,
and
we
did
some
adjusting
so
an
example
in
there
you
can
see
like
that.
Travel
adjustment
is
one
of
the
adjustments
that
we
did
to
kind
of
bring
that
up.
L
Then
we
had
a
conversation
and
originally
we
were
intending
to
go
through
and
do
a
bunch
of
tweaking
of
the
order
of
things.
But
as
a
group,
we
decided
that
what
we
had
there
was
close
enough
to
go
out
and
talk
to
the
public
about
it
and
get
feedback,
and
so
that's
the
state
that
it's
in
about
now,
but
basically
it.
It
represents
everybody.
The
kind
of
combined
weight
of
everyone's
input
on
the
relative
prioritization
and
that's
how
we
got
to
that.
I
F
L
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
question,
one
of
the
things
that
you'll
notice.
If
you
go
look
at
the
spreadsheet,
that's
posted
on
our
website
is
there's
a
bunch
of
things
like
the
three
live
three
versus
park,
district
kind
of
collaboration
that
are
ranked
very
low
on
that,
and
that's
a
very
intentional
decision.
F
F
L
A
K
K
So
I
think
we've
got
nine
miles
of
streets
in
2021
targeted
for
repaving
and
and
that's
a
significant
cost
and
it's
one
that's
totally
absorbed
by
the
city,
and
I
expected
to
see
a
lesser.
You
know
a
recommendation
to
do
a
lesser
amount
because,
as
we
know
to
a
great
extent,
there's
a
degree
of
subjectivity
to
all
that,
and
yet
it
maintains
continuing
to
fix
the
streets
that
need
it.
The
most
yet
creates
savings
and
in
all
scenarios
continues
to
provide
other
needed
and
desired
services.
K
L
Yeah,
so
we
you
know-
and
I
think
I
think
this
is
an
example
of
why
we're
out
talking
about
this
as
a
preliminary
plan,
because
I
think
that's
a
really
good
catch
that
we
should
go
and
have
a
look
at,
and
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
ask
the
staff
to
come
back
and
talk
about
that
particular
item.
But
we
did
use
a
list
of
items
that
was
generated
by
the
staff
that
included
items
that
we
received
from
the
public
and
that
were
generated
by
the
committee
and
so
part
of
the
reason.
L
Why
we're
out
with
this
preliminary
preliminary
set
of
things,
and
to
be
honest,
I
think
part
of
the
reason
why
we
didn't
invest
too
much
in
tweaking
it
within
an
inch
of
its
life.
Is
that
we
fully
expected
to
get
some
additional
ideas
as
we
went
along
and
we
wanted
to
collect
those
up
and
be
able
to
include
them
in
the
process
and
not
have.
This
seem
like
too
much
of
a
finished
product.
L
K
L
And
again,
I
think
you
know
each
of
the
travel
items
came
forward
as
separate
proposals
from
each
of
the
departments.
So
I
think
we
could
certainly
have
go
back
and
have
a
look
at
admin
to
see
what
the
costs
were
in
that
area.
It
it's
possible
that
there
wasn't
enough
there
that
they
felt
it
was
worth
coming
forward,
or
it
may
be
something
that
we
want
to
consider.
So
that's
another
good
point
to
bring
forward.
J
D
A
L
Right-
and
it
really
was,
it
was
anything
that
that
received
kind
of
kind
of
levy,
support
or
levy
or
support
from
the
those
particular
forms
of
revenues
were
the
ones
that
were
in
scope
for
the
conversation.
So
there
were
some
of
the
internal
service
funds
that
were
also
things
that
we
ended
up
talking
about
as
well.
So
it's
not
it's
not
just
the
general
fund,
but
the
the
problem
that
we're
having
here
is
related
to
kind
of
tax
revenues
that
go
pay
for
general
activities
of
the
city,
so
things
that
were
out
of
scope.
L
A
good
example
is
the
the
kind
of
water
related
utilities
that
the
city
operates:
the
wastewater,
the
fresh
water
and
the
stormwater
funds,
those
are
paid
almost
exclusively
through
user
fees,
and
so
because
those
are
user
fee
supported.
There
really
wasn't
any
opportunity
to
help
with
kind
of
the
the
general
fund
revenue
problem
in
those
particular
funds,
and
so
we
did
focus
in
on
things
where
it
would
have
an
impact
on
that
we're
impacted
by
the
the
pandemic
and
the
areas
that
we're
trying
to
fix.
A
L
F
F
But
I
have
great
disdain
for
the
size
of
that
budget
that
sits
over
there.
We
have
this
terrible
problem
right
now
and
having
to
cut
the
budget
and
let
there's
80
million
dollars
sitting
in
a
war
chest
and
I'm
I
fail
to
understand
it.
Maybe
it's
my
age
and
stage,
and
maybe
it's
my
feeling
guilty
because
I
helped
initiate
that,
but
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
you
need
to
come
to
grips
with
how
you're
going
to
handle
that
going
into
the
future.
F
F
F
Bloomington
could
go
ahead
and
do
a
five
percent
levy
increase
and
most
taxes
on
our
average
house
will
not
go
up.
It'll
cost
about
forty
dollars
a
year,
five
bucks
a
month,
and
for
that
we
keep
our
police.
We
keep
our
fire.
We
keep
the
operations
in
this
city
that
are
so
important
to
us.
That's
your
decision
to
make,
but
that's
where
the
committee
you
start
going
into
the
three
percent
or.
C
F
F
A
Agreed,
I
think,
as
as
we
greeted
each
other
in
the
hall
on
the
way
in
we
basically
said
it's
mid-october.
We
have
to
get
on
with
this.
We
we
have
work
to
do
and
we've
got
to
get
to
a
decision
fairly
quickly
here,
and
I
appreciate
your
input
appreciate
your
perspective
that
you
do
bring,
and
one
of
the
important
reasons
why
you're
a
member
of
this
committee
to
bring
a
perspective
like
that
to
bring
that
long-term
perspective
and
to
to
to
offer
your
input
and
your
insights
that,
frankly,
are
very
valuable.
F
If
I
could
just
comment,
I
have
really
appreciated
steve's
leadership
in
this.
It
just
could
not
have
happened
without
his
approach
and
his
technical
qualities,
but
at
the
same
token,
your
staff
spent
every
hour
with
us
that
we
were
here
grumbling
about
the
40
or
50
hours
that
we
spent,
but
your
staff
was
here
too.
They
did
not
lead
us,
but
they
were
a
resource
and
so
very
impressive,
and
they
had
to
explain
to
their
families
why
they
were
gone
so
much
too.
So
absolutely.
I
hope
this
is
a
report
that
you
can
use.
F
L
If,
mr
mayor,
we
could
put
up
that
last
slide,
then
I
can
actually
close
it
out
here
because
that
talks
about
kind
of
the
remaining
steps
of
the
committee.
So
this
week,
on
thursday
and
saturday,
we
have
community
input
sessions
scheduled
last,
I
heard
for
the
thursday
one
we
had
40.
Some
people
signed
up
for
that
probably
higher
at
this
point.
L
I
Yeah
just
one
question:
I
just
saw
the
word
survey
there
and
it
just
occurred
to
me
that
I
can't
remember
in
the
looking
over
the
of
items-
and
we
had
some
surveys
on
a
couple
of
services
that
we
had
over
this
year.
Did
any
of
that
get
pulled
into
that
conversation
at
all
during
the
meetings
I
know
the
ones
I
watched
you
didn't
talk
about
that,
but
did
that
become
a
part
of
the
conversation
at
all
our
our
annual
surveys
or
any
other
surveys?
We've
done.
L
So
I
think
the
the
annual
survey
council
member
logan
loman
is
is
one
that
we
did
discuss
in
the
committee.
If
you
go
to
the
website.
Actually,
all
of
the
items
that
we
considered
are
posted
on
the
site.
So
it
really
is
something
where,
if
you
watched
all
the
meetings
and
read
everything
on
there,
you'd
probably
spend
60
or
70
hours
going
through
it.
L
But
we
did
get
both
the
service
assessments
that
the
city
has
been
doing
on
some
of
the
major
services
in
the
city
and
the
the
kind
of
annual
survey
that
goes
out
to
residents
that
collects
data
about
kind
of
what
they
like
about
city
services
and
what
they'd
like
to
see
improved.
So
we
did
consider
that,
as
part
of
the
input.
I
D
L
K
L
Sure
so
the
the
reduction
that
we
show
in
the
detailed
spreadsheet,
that's
on
the
website
around
the
motor
vehicle
office
is
the
amount
that's
saved
from
from
the
that
would
be
that
would
be
paid
for
out
of
the
property
tax
levy.
So
it's
not
of
any
revenues
that
we
end
up
getting
so
the
budget
for
that
office
is
substantially
above
the
savings
that
we're
showing
in
the
in
the
spreadsheet.
K
L
Yeah,
I
think
the
if
you're
looking
at
the
if
you're
looking
at
the
detailed
sheet,
that
was
the
one
that
went
out
the
first
week
and
after
where
the
staff
went
and
gathered
the
additional
data.
The
internal
service
charges
were
netted
off
of
that.
So
that's!
If
that's
still
in
the
spreadsheet,
it's
because
we
didn't
update
that.
K
K
K
A
Of
the
next
steps
here,
we
have
community
input
sessions
thursday
evening
saturday
morning,
and
the
input
will
be
taken
on
all
of
the
information
that
has
been
presented
tonight,
as
well
as
all
the
information
that's
on
the
website
and
again,
as
mr
peterson
has
pointed
out,
upper
right
hand.
Corner
of
this
slide
shows
the
web
address
of
all
of
the
information
that
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
has
both
gathered
and
put
together
as
well.
A
Once
again,
thank
you
so
very
much
for
the
work
that
you've
done.
Thank
you.
Please
pass
your
thank
our
thanks
on
to
your
committee
as
well.
Outstanding
work
thus
far,
you've
given
us
a
lot
to
think
about,
and
the
community
a
lot
to
think
about,
and
it
is
going
to
be
a
a
robust
and
effective
discussion.
I
think,
as
we
head
toward
our
decision
in
november,
regarding
what
the
future
budget
is
going
to
look
like
for
the
city
of
bloomington.
L
A
M
A
N
A
N
N
Please
so
first
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
demand
for
2020,
so
the
blue
line.
This
is
our
kind
of
week-to-week
water
use
for
2020
and
the
red
line
is
a
is
an
average
or
a
recent
average
2013
through
2019
and
we've
kind
of
chosen
that
average,
because
that
is
that's
kind
of
become
our
our
reality
of
late.
N
So
we've
tried
to
each
subsequent
year
try
to
to
to
predict
revenue
and
base
our
activities
on
those
not
as
favorable
conditions,
and
so
that's
that's
why
we
compare
to
that
that
recent
average
and,
as
you
can
see,
2020
hasn't,
you
know,
hasn't
performed
as
as
we'd
like
it's
been
below
average
in
terms
of
water
production
and
demand,
and
then
I'd
also
note,
you
know
speaking
specifically
of
2020.
You
know
the
march
and
april
time
frames
where
you
can.
N
Another
way
to
look
at
this
distribution
data
and
and
we'll
I'll
say,
distribution
and
demand
and
consumption.
You
know
all
generally
relating
to
the
same
thing:
we're
comparing
the
gray
line
on
the
bottom
is
2020
total
distribution,
and
that
includes
minneapolis
purchases
to
2019
in
the
orange
line.
N
Right
above
so
again,
you
know
if
you,
if
you're
able
to
zoom
in
you,
can
see
the
departure
in
in
march
and
april,
and
this
this
you
know
summer
was
a
little
better
than
last
year
and
again
2019
just
for
reference
was
the
wettest
rain
year
on
record
for
us.
So
it's
no
surprise
to
see
2019
off
of
our
off
of
our
average
and
in
2020
you
know
a
little
better
I'd,
say
weather-wise,
but
obviously
the
the
impacts
from
the
pandemic.
N
You
know
added
its
own
second
punch
to
that
to
hold
us
below
our
average,
but
you
know
with
any
luck:
will
it
will
at
least
catch
up
to
to
2019?
Normally
you
know
we
were
looking.
We
would
expect
to.
You
know,
have
an
overall
distribution
close
to
4
billion
gallons
2019.
It
was
less
than
three
and
a
half
billion,
and
you
know
again,
2020
is,
is
trending
similarly,
but
a
little
bit
below
that
next
slide.
Please.
N
N
Keeps
us
in
compliance
with
with
statute
and
water
supply
planning
tier
one
rate
allows
for
up
to
six
thousand
gallons
a
month
or
twelve
thousand
gallons
in
a
billing
cycle
and
and
tier
two
kicks
in
after
that.
What
these
graphs
are
are
trying
to
show
on
the
left
there,
the
average
annual
single-family
residential
use
per
month.
So
the
what
what's
in
blue
is
that
tier
one
use
red
is
tier
two
and
then
to
the
right.
N
N
So
here's
just
a
a
little
more
detail
on
that
and
again
the
the
the
two
slides
on
the
left
are
what
you
just
saw
in
this.
The
graph
on
the
right
is
the
that
average
annual
single-family
residential
water
use
per
month,
and
so
you
can
see
that
the
that
tier
two
consumption
is
really
hitting
in
the
winter.
There's
there's
some
and
there's
some
in
the
winter
too,
but
it's
that
summer,
use
that
that's
the
tier
two
driver
and
I'll
talk.
Also,
I
guess
regarding
this.
We
we've
had
some
discussions.
N
Last
year
we
met
and
we
began
discussions
on
affordability
with
the
council,
specifically
looking
at
at
tier
2
use
among
our
residential
customers,
and
you
may
not
recall,
but
I'll,
just
kind
of
just
quick
touch
on
that
on
average
that
tier
two
use-
and
I
think
at
that
time
we're
using
2018
data
was
was
about
a
dollar
seventy
per
month
and
it
and
kind
of
I
guess
another
data
point.
You
know
60
65
of
all
single-family
customers
and
80
percent
of
customers
in
in
lower
valued
homes.
N
And
if
you
remember
we
had,
we
had
a
little
bit
of
a
data
issue
in
trying
to
find
surrogates
for
for
income
relating
specifically
to
to
water
use,
but
but
using
those
metrics,
those
two
groups
used
less
than
ten
thousand
gallons
a
year
of
of
tier
two
water
or
or
twenty
six
dollars.
So
again,
just
that's
you
know,
that's
that's
the
data
point
in
the
significance
of
of
that
can
be.
N
We
have
begun
running
numbers
for
2020
and
those
distributions
have
not
changed
even
due,
even
due
to
the
stay
at
home
with
regard
to
to
increase
of
tier
2
use
in
in
residential
properties,
because
our
billing,
because
our
our
meter
reads
and
our
billing
tend
to
lag,
we
didn't
have
have
those
available.
We
didn't
obviously
don't
have
a
full
year
available
for
2020,
but
we
have
started
putting
it
together
and
20
20
numbers
match
what
what
you
see
here
next
slide.
N
N
N
The
pandemic
put
a
put
a
crimp
into
that
work,
primarily
because
one
of
the
things
we
found
is
the
data
sets
that
we
have
to
work
with
are
on
are
on
census,
track
or
block
levels,
and-
and
it's
really
challenging
to
understand-
you
know,
on
an
account
level
basis,
what's
actually
happening
in
household
in
terms
of
income,
family,
size
and
and
things
of
that.
So
that's
something
we're
we're
still
working
on
we're
now
we're
working
with
some
outside
groups
and
other
agencies,
equity
and
water
infrastructure.
N
Some
of
these
questions,
what
we
have
done
to
date
is
is
we've
looked
at
kind
of
past
affordability,
markers
epa
and
american
water
works
association
had
established
an
affordability
definition
of
of
two
and
a
half
percent
of
median
household
income
as
being
an
affordable
as
being
affordable
for
water
rates,
but
as
as
you
know
that
that
that's
somewhat
obtuse
and
and
median
household
income
doesn't
mean
much
to
a
lot
of
people.
So
we
were
we
so
so,
given
what
we
have.
We've
we've
taken
that
and
and
at
least
tried
to
understand.
N
N
Slide
so
this
this
you've
seen
also
before
this
is
this:
is
the
water
utility
asset
outlook
or
or
basically
our
asset
renewal
model,
the
the
blue
line,
and
I
apologize
for
the
confusing
nomenclature
it
says
forecast.
So
what
that
is?
That's
that's.
That's
the
forecast
that
our
original
age-based
only
model
looks
at
so,
if,
if
water
infrastructure,
if
certain
water
infrastructure
has
as
an
expected
life
of
75
years,
if
we
put
it
in
74
years
ago,
the
next
year,
it's
it's
coming
up
for
replacement
and
there's
the
cost.
N
There's
the
cost
to
do
that.
So
that's
what
the
blue
line
is.
The
orange
line
is
is
what
I
refer
to
as
actual.
This
is
what
we
think
replacement
will
look
like
after
we
incorporate
the
other
asset
management
criteria
into
the
decision
in
terms
of
reliability,
risk
condition
and
opportunity
in
terms
of
collaborating
with
a
payment
management
project
and
things
or
or
another.
You
know
county
project
or
state
project.
Things
like
that.
N
We
worked
side
by
side
with,
with
carl
and
in
the
rest
of
public
works
in
terms
of
trying
to
identify
adjustments
and
cuts
to
our
expenditures
in
21,
mirroring
what
what
public
works
was
proposing
to
the
the
citizen
budget
advisory
committee.
So
things
like
eliminating
travel,
some
reductions
in
some
in
professional
services
that
that
relate
to
some
future
projects,
reduce
materials
for
for
potential
reduction
in
water
production,
as
well
as
delaying
some
capital
project
and
those
delays.
M
M
M
It
does
remain
a
positive
balance,
but
is
significantly
lower
than
the
goal
for
this
fund,
which
is
indicated
by
the
highlighted
and
red
amount
for
the
working
capital
balance.
So
we'll
be
working
with
that.
Looking
out
for
the
future
planning
of
this
fund
to
try
to
get
that
back
up
in
future
years,
so
that
those
are
the
slides
for
the
water
fund.
K
M
G
N
Just
you
know,
lack
of
revenue
really
dating
back,
and
I
I'll
you
keep
using
2012
as
a
reference,
because
that's
the
the
first
year
that,
as
I
recall
and
looking
it's
probably
not
the
first
year-
that's
that's
a
that's
a
marker
year
that
I
recall
kind
of
starting
to
look
back
to
see.
You
know
looking
at
at
weather
and
and
impacts
on
revenue
where
we've
just,
I
think,
from
from
2012
to
2020.
N
N
It's
it's
the
only
difference
this
year
is,
you
know
we
had
another
player
in
terms
of
a
pandemic
that
led
to
taking
a
bite
out
of
revenues
as
opposed
to
just
just
weather.
So,
while
we've
been
and
we've
been,
you
know
unfortunately,
coming
before
you
trying
to
offset
that.
You
know
carefully
with
with
raid
increases.
N
G
I
guess
and
we
can
move
on
and
I
can
get
this
information
online,
but
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
implications
are.
For
that
I
mean,
as
we
look
you
know
in
the
in
the
tales
here
I
mean
it
gets
even
well
below
50
of
the
goal,
and
that
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
concerning
number
to
me,
particularly
in
so
far
as
it
describes
water
infrastructure
and
we've
seen
places
like
flint
michigan
and
around
the
country.
What
happens
when
water
infrastructure
is
not
properly
maintained?
G
M
A
I
do
want
to
say
council
councilmember
coulter.
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
the
the
totals
in
the
work
working
capital
balance.
I
do
want
to
make
clear
that
we're
we're
not
in
a
flint
michigan
scenario
here
and
and
we're
we're,
not
even
in
that
neighborhood,
so
I
just
don't
want
to.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
leave
people
with
that
impression.
It
is.
A
It
is
certainly
in
the
red
because
we're
we're
not
getting
our
working
capital
balance
up
to
our
working
capital
goal,
but
we're
we're
not
in
a
crisis
situation
like
they
are
in
flint
michigan
in
any
way
shape
or
form,
so
seeing
no
further
questions
regarding
the
water
utility.
Let's
move
on
to
the
wastewater
utility
fund.
N
Thank
you,
kari
mary,
we'll
see
mayor
with
council
members,
so
much
like
the
water
utility.
This
fund
accounts
for
all
the
operation,
maintenance
and
and
ultimate
replacement
of
the
city's
wastewater
collection
system,
as
well
as
charges
from
the
metropolitan
council
environmental
services
to
to
treat
that
wastewater.
N
And
go
actually,
they
can
stay
here,
but
I'll
just
just
talk
briefly.
The
the
wastewater
utility
presentation
always
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
shorter
and
and
more
simple
than
the
water
utility,
and
I
think
that's
because,
while
water
wastewater
revenue
is
tied
to
to
water
revenue,
it's
it's
not
tied
so
tightly
in
terms
of
you
know,
as
you
know,
residential
customers,
they
pay
their
wastewater
rates
based
on
that
that
winter
use.
So
so
we're
not
capturing.
N
You
know
if
somebody's
filling,
a
swimming
pool
or
watering
their
their
lawn,
that's
not
a
suit
that
doesn't
go
into
the
sewer.
So
we
don't.
You
know
we're
not
there's
no
charge
for
that,
and
so,
while
water
use
definitely
impacts,
sewer
use
and
revenue,
it's
not
a
victim
to
the
the
kind
of
the
wild
swings
that
that
can
accompany
water
summer
use.
So
so
so
you
get
a
shorter
presentation
on
wastewater.
N
M
K
M
Council,
mayor
and
council
members
councilman
beloga
there's
not,
and
I
don't
know
in
the
in
the
past,
if
we've
done
transfers
between
water
and
wastewater.
I
do
know
when
we
have
our
comprehensive
annual
financial
report.
We
actually
show
these
two
funds
together
and
that
they're,
very
kind
of
intertwined
and
a
lot
of
people
do
work
in
both
funds.
K
A
I
would
agree
council
member
below
a
good
suggestion,
something
to
consider.
I
would
note
that
the
capital,
the
working
capital
balance
and
the
working
capital
goal
are,
for
the
most
part,
within
a
million
dollars
of
each
other,
so
it's
not
a
huge
windfall,
but
it
certainly
every
little
bit
would
certainly
help
so
something
to
consider
council
any
other
questions
or
comments
regarding
the
wastewater
utility.
O
A
O
Thank
you
so
similar
to
the
wastewater.
The
stormwater
utility
fund
provides
for
the
operation,
maintenance,
improvement
and
replacement
for
the
city's
storm
sewer
system,
and
so
and
users
are
charged
a
fee
for
the
costs
associated
with
managing
the
storm
sewer
system
and
and
the
stormwater
runoff
within
the
city.
Within
bloomington,
we've
got
over
150
miles
of
mainline
storm,
sewer,
pipe
about
8
000
catch
basins,
a
little
over
1,
600,
manholes,
300,
different
water
bodies
that
we
manage
and
six
lift
stations.
O
O
We
have
a
public
participation
component
which
which
we
fund
things,
such
as
the
wetland
health
evaluation
program,
which
is
a
partnership
with
hennepin
county
that
adopt
a
storm
drain
program
that
you
may
be
familiar
with.
We
also
look
at
so
the,
and
the
third
group,
then,
would
be
the
illicit
discharge,
detection
and
elimination
so
essentially
looking
at
and
investigating
any
discharges
to
the
storm
sewer
system
that
are
not
storm
water
runoff.
O
We
have
our
post-construction
storm
water
management,
which
goes
through
and
reviews
different
developments
and
projects
throughout
the
city
for
compliance
with
city
stormwater
standards,
and
then
we
also
have
a
program
for
municipal
stormwater
operations,
so
the
storm
utility
also
supports
any
work
required
as
part
of
approved
total
maximum
daily
loads,
which
is
also
sometimes
referred
to
as
tmdls
next
slide.
Kari.
O
However,
this
one
is
with
regards
to
the
stormwater
utility
fees,
and
you
know
what
a
stormwater
utility
fee
supports
does
vary
from
city
to
city,
so
in
bloomington
you
know
this.
We
support
the
street
sweeping
program,
our
ms4
mpds
permit
related
items
such
as
you
know:
sump
basin
structure,
cleanouts.
O
O
We
have
a
pond
maintenance
project
that
is
typically
run
in
the
in
the
winter,
to
reduce
our
environmental
impact
and
reduce
the
risk
associated
with
working
at
the
end
of
the
pipe
and
also
the
stormwater
utility
funds.
The
maintenance
and
improvements
to
the
system
that
are
completed
through
the
pmp
projects,
so
you
know
any
storm
sewer
work
that
is
completed
as
part
of
a
pmp
project
is
funded
entirely
from
the
stormwater
utility
and
is
not
included
in
any
assessments.
O
So
all
this
work
is
completed
in
addition
to
the
in-house
related
maintenance
work,
that's
completed
by
our
maintenance
department,
such
as
I'm
not
sure
how
many
of
you
saw
the
sinkhole
that
was
out
on
west
old
shakopee
road
this
year
near
rich,
but
that
was
you
know,
a
significant
impact
to
a
highly
traveled
route,
and
you
know
our
maintenance.
Our
maintenance
department
was
able
to
get
that
fixed
and
repaired
and
get
the
lane
closures
removed.
You
know
within
about
a
week,
so
it
does.
O
O
O
O
And
so
the
sediment
level
has
been
determined
to
be
level
two
material
as
far
as
the
pah
contamination
goes
through
our
conversations
with
different
contractors
level,
two
material
almost
always
ends
up
at
the
landfill
as
well,
even
though
it's
not
governed
by
the
pca.
According
to
mpca
guidelines
level,
two
material
would
be
acceptable
for
industrial
fill.
However,
in
talking
with
several
contractors
out
there,
they
say
that
you
know
there.
They
don't
have
a
site
that
that's
willing
to
take
this
material.
So
most
often
it
does
end
up
at
the
landfill
which
does
increase
cost.
O
So
we
have
been
working
on
some
more
creative
ways
that
could
result
in
project
savings
such
as
you
know,
saving
some
of
the
material
and
creating
islands
out
out
in
the
lake
or
something
of
that
nature
or
looking
at
the
possibility
of
having
having
a
separate
disposal
contract
with
the
facility,
and
that
way
that
would
we
would
avoid
any
contractor
markup
on
the
on
the
disposal
rate.
So
so
oxboro
lake
is
the
main
driver
of
the
stormwater
budget
here
for
2021.
M
Yes,
so
here
is
the
20
or
the
long-term
budget
model
for
the
storm
water
utility
fund,
and
the
2021
proposed
budget
includes
total
revenue
of
seven
just
over
7.2
million
and
proposed
expenses
of
11.5
million.
That
includes
7.2
million
for
capital
projects
and
also
for
this
fund.
The
working
capital
balance
is
projected
to
be
in
line
with
the
goal.
A
M
B
B
B
B
Herc
is
not
increasing
fees
in
2021,
and
so,
therefore,
this
portion
of
the
rate
will
not
change.
The
next
portion
is
the
city
administrative
fee.
This
is
set
by
the
city,
and
this
covers
the
city's
billing.
Our
customer
service
education
and
contract
administration
and
this
portion
of
the
rate
is
not
going
to
increase
in
2021.
B
B
B
We
were
able
to
do
a
review
of
other
cities
in
the
metro,
and
it
should
be
noted
that
these
prices
are
adjusted
based
on
a
few
factors
to
make
the
rates
more
of
an
apples-to-apples
comparison,
including
factors
like
who
does
the
billing
and
where
the
garbage
is
disposed
of.
As
you
can
see
in
this
table,
bloomington
our
rate
in
2021
is
fairly
competitive
with
other
rates.
Our
rate
is
higher
than
average
rates
found
in
competitive
rfp
contract
cities,
but
it
is
lower
than
the
average
found
in
other
negotiated
contract
prices.
B
Bloomington
has
a
negotiated
contract
and
it
is
also
lower
than
the
open
hauling
rate.
Now
this
open
hauling
rate
was
established
through
a
2015
survey
that
the
city
conducted
approximately
275
residences,
who
voluntarily
submitted
copies
of
their
solid
waste
invoices
from
their
haulers
at
that
time,
and
the
invoices
were
received
for
services
from
all
seven
licensed
haulers
in
bloomington
at
that
time,
in
2015,
that
rate
was
was
found
to
be
26.66
and
we
adjusted
that
for
today's.
B
B
Moving
on
from
the
garbage
and
recycling
rates,
we
will
discuss
the
curbside
cleanup
fee,
this
fee
funds,
both
the
curb
the
city's
curbside
cleanup
program,
and
it
also
builds
a
reserve
for
a
major
storm
debris
cleanup
that
might
be
needed
after
an
emergency
storm
after
a
storm
in
an
emergency
situation.
So
this
fee
is
4.42
per
month.
It's
a
for
fifty
three
dollars
and
four
cents
a
year,
and
this
will
not
increase
in.
B
2021-
and
we
also
wanted
to
make
note
of
the
fact
that
this
year
there
are
two
city
questions
related
to
the
residential,
solid
waste
collection
program
on
the
ballot
in
bloomington
this
year.
As
you
are
aware,
so
if,
as
a
result
of
the
election,
voters
do
decide
to
end
city
organized
collection,
those
solid
waste
fees
that
are
set
in
chapter
11
of
our
city
code
would
not
be
necessary.
M
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
laura.
So
here
is
the
budgeted
long-term
model
for
the
solid
waste,
so
total
budgeted
revenues
for
2021
are
just
over
8.2
million
and
total
budgeted
expenses
are
just
over
8.6
million,
and
I
will
just
point
out
that
for
this
utility
fund
there
is
property
tax
support
of
185
000,
and
that
is
requested
for
forestry
and
removal
of
disease.
Trees,
which
we've
been
talking
about
this
evening,
such
as
emerald
ash,
borer.
M
What
it
looks
like
we
had
brendan
greenwaldt
in
our
customer
billing
supervisor.
Our
customer
billing
department
for
utility
billing
put
some
numbers
together
just
to
show
samples
of
what
a
residential
utility
bill
would
look
like
at
different
levels.
So
these
three
different
boxes
represent,
so
the
one
on
the
left
would
be
a
minimum
of
four
thousand
gallons
in
a
month
of
water
usage
and
a
small
garbage
can
and
then
in
the
middle
would
be.
You
know
the
11,
000,
gallon
usage
and
a
medium
garbage
and
then
on.
M
The
right
would
be
large
garbage
and
using
22,
000
gallons
in
a
in
a
bi-monthly
period.
So,
just
to
show
these
different
rates
increases
that
we're
proposing
for
this
four
different
utility
funds,
and
so,
for
example,
with
the
kind
of
minimum
uses
that
it
would
go
for
a
and
we're
talking
about
for
a
bi-monthly
bill,
so
every
eight
weeks
that
it
would
go
from
ninety
eight
dollars
and
fourteen
cents
to
ninety
nine
dollars
and
sixty
five
cents.
M
For
that
smaller
usage
example
and
underneath
each
different
scenario
here,
you
can
see
if
you
look
for
the
whole
year.
So
we
get
these
bills
six
times
a
year
that
for
the
smaller
usage
it
would
be
a
little
over
nine
dollars
for
the
year
and
for
medium
usage
over
fourteen
dollars
a
year
and
then
for
the
high
usage
where
like
for
the
water.
Once
you
go
past
the
sixteen
thousand
gallons
for
the
two
months,
it's
gonna
go
into
tier
two.
That
would
be
twenty
seven
dollars,
forty
eight
cents.
M
A
Thank
you
thank
you
and
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
for
bringing
that
that
the
sample
of
residential
utility
bills
2020
versus
2021,
the
previous
slide,
bringing
all
that
information
together.
I
think
that's
useful
and
it's
helpful
because
we've
been
talking
about
this.
It's
there
they're.
We
look
at
these
as
a
standalone
kind
of
thing,
but
they
all
aggregate
together
and
they
they
come
together
and
it's
it's
the
cost
of
it's
the
cost
of
living
in
bloomington.
A
If
you're
using
the
you
know,
if
you
do
recycling,
if
you,
if
you
have
to
pay
the
water,
the
sewer
and
so
on,
so
to
bring
everything
together
like
that
is
helpful
and
to
see
that
the
increases
are
for
the
you
know
for
the
first
tier
there
for
that
four
thousand
gallons
in
a
small
garbage,
it's
a
an
additional
75
cents
a
month
and
appreciate
bringing
that
information,
putting
it
in
the
aggregate
and
letting
people
look
at
it
in
that
way.
So
well
done
with
that
console
additional
questions,
comments.
A
A
And
we
can
move
on
to
item
2.5,
the
council
rules
of
procedure.
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while,
and
we
it
always
ends
up
being
the
thing
that
we
kind
of
kick
back
kick
down
the
road
because
we
get
too
late
sometimes,
and
it's
a
a
topic
that
we
I'd
like
to
take
on
and
continue
to
take
on
and
make
sure
that
we
get
through
at
least
a
portion
of
it
tonight.
A
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
finish
but
to
spend
some
time
moving
forward
with
it,
and
ms
manderscheid
is
here
to
to
lead
us
through,
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
melissa
to
to
go
with
specific
page
numbers
within
the
within
the
packet,
because
I
know
there's
a
lot
here
and
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
different
things
organized
in
different
ways.
So
whatever
you
can
do
to
help
us
along
would
be
appreciated.
E
All
right,
I
feel
like
I
should
have
some
wwe
like
intro
music,
because
this
is
just
something:
we've
been
kicking
down
the
road
for
so
long.
It's
so
exciting,
and
I
know
you
all
just
can't
wait,
so
you
can
just
run
like
something
in
your
head,
maybe
like
thunderstruck
or
I
don't
know
all
right
so
just
as
a
reminder
to
kind
of
ground
us
all
as
to
where
we
have
been
in
getting
us
up
to
this
point
tonight.
E
I
put
those
at
the
beginning
of
the
request
for
council
action
and
carried
those
through.
We
talked
back
in
december.
I
believe
it
was
about
some
general
changes
that
we
all
had
wanted
to
make
yeah.
It
was
december,
16th
or
so
december
around
then,
and
and
then
at
the
first
meeting
in
january
on
january,
2nd,
you
all
amended.
E
The
call
excuse
me
the
order
of
business,
which
is
in
section
9
of
the
rules
or
procedure,
and
only
that
section
at
that
time.
It
was
an
amendment
by
resolution
2020-2,
and
we
did
that
and
only
that
at
that
time,
because
we
were
in
the
process
of
implementing
a
new
software
program
and
we
needed
to
set
that
and
make
that
change
and
did
only
that
at
that
time.
E
E
We
had
to
move
it
due
to
time
on
september
14th
we
moved
it
to
october
5th
and
on
october
5th
it
was
tabled
until
tonight.
So,
just
as
a
reminder,
I've
been
keeping
track
of
the
edits
that
we've
made
or
the
comments
that
you've
made
at
each
of
the
meetings
we've
been
talking
through
each
of
them
and
the
plan.
As
I
understand
it,
is
to
bring
those
all
back
together
for
your
final
review
and
act
on
it
in
resolution
at
a
future
council
meeting
date.
I
believe
we
have
a
tentatively
scheduled
for
november.
E
I
also
took
a
look
at
egan's
and
I
also
took
a
look
at
st
louis
park
and
the
st
louis
park
one.
I
believe
they
use
use
the
sturgis
model
of
rules
and
not
the
roberts,
and
although
that
was
very
concise-
and
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful-
I
thought
it
might
confuse
things
because
it
isn't
done
another
body
of
parliamentary
procedure,
so
I
focused
and
only
included
those
two
minnetonka
and
rochester
which
are
in
your
pocket.
E
So
with
that,
as
an
introduction,
I
will
get
started
as
a
reminder.
This
is
page
45
of
the
agenda
packet.
That's
the
first
section
and
we
will
be
talking
about
category
c.
The
first
section
is
section
10,
which
is
hearing
procedures
and
that's
on
page
60
of
your
agenda
packet.
Before
we
get
started.
Are
there
any
questions.
E
And
then,
if
you'll
probably
recall
from
previous
discussions,
I
have
numerous
documents
in
front
of
me.
So
there's
a
lot
of
paper
shuffling!
That's
why
I'm
looking
through
the
various
you
know
conversations
and
content
that
we've
had
from
prior
discussions,
so
bear
with
me.
If
it
takes
me
a
little
bit
of
time
to
get
back
to
you
on
specific
questions
before
we
start
with
section
10.
Is
there
anything
else
that
anyone
would
like
to
chat
about?
E
So
if
you
have,
I,
I
am
talking
from
the
edits
that
we
have
been
working
through
back
dating
almost
a
year
ago.
So
excuse
me
so
if
there
are
larger
substantive
edits
that
you
would
like
to
see
either
in
this
in
the
sections
we're
talking
about
tonight
or
in
new
sections
that
you
would
like
added,
I
will
certainly
bring
those
back
I'll,
integrate
those
and
bring
those
back
for
your
your
future
consideration.
E
But
the
comments
that
I
have
for
you
tonight
are
the
ones
that
we've
been
talking
through
this
for
the
last
nine
months
or
so
so.
With
regard
to
page
60
hearing
procedure,
the
only
edit
that
we've
been
talking
about
to
date
is
making
that
change
about
the
current
version
of
robert's
rules.
If
you
recall
the
document
referenced,
the
10th
edition
they've
now
published
the
11th
edition
and
we
had
made
a
decision
a
while
back
to
reference
just
the
most
current
edition
of
robert's
rules,
each
edition
we
have
copies
of
all
of
them.
E
E
A
lot
of
this
is
is
in
an
effort
to
assist
the
the
person,
the
secretary
denise
in
in
our
case,
so
that
when
she
goes
back
and
reviews
the
council
recording,
she
can
know
who's
speaking
and
so
people
have
to
be
recognized
by
the
presiding
officer.
They
speak
when
spoken
to
all.
Dialogue
goes
through
the
presiding
officer,
those
sorts
of
things
all
right.
Moving
on
to
section
12,
which
is
on
page
62..
E
In
this
section,
it's
again
participation.
We
don't
have
any
specific
suggested
edits
for
this.
It
is
working
again
through
the
fact
that
remarks
go
through
the
the
presiding
officer,
how
to
get
the
floor,
how
to
handle
interruptions,
which
is
what
should
be
entered
into
the
minutes.
That's
pretty
much
the
gist
of
that.
There
are
no
specific
edits
proposed
to
that
section.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
rules
of
debate.
A
E
All
right,
the
next
section
is
on
the
following
page,
addressing
the
council
in
that
first
section
written
communications.
This
indicates
that
anyone
from
the
public
is
able
to
address
the
council
through
written
communications,
you'll
see
that
on
all
the
agenda,
packets
and
as
well
as
on
the
city
website.
E
E
E
This
relates
to
who
can
provide
oral
communications
on
city
business
to
the
council
during
a
meeting.
I'm
recommending
this
change
to
members,
not
because
I
don't
think
that
taxpayers
and
residents
should
be
heard,
but
rather
because
we
we
could
be
challenged
by
somebody
saying
you
know,
sort
of
a
approving
up
of
your
residency
requirement
or,
if
you're,
if
you're
a
miner,
and
you
have
a
contribution
and
you're,
not
otherwise
a
taxpayer,
because
you
don't
own
property.
E
The
other
aspect
of
this
is
that
we
don't
want
to
limit
our
our
communications
to
only
people
from
the
jurisdictional
boundaries
of
the
city
of
bloomington,
because
oftentimes,
our
our
items
are
multi-jurisdictional
and
we
want
to
hear
information
from
other
jurisdictions.
So
this
just
seems
to
me
like
a
modernization
and
it
does
not
prohibit
it.
For
example,
hearing
residents.
First,
it's
just
broadening
up
the
scope
of
people
that
can
provide
oral
communications
and
then
the
last
part
is
about
the
minutes
of
speech.
A
Counsel
any
comments
on
that.
I'm
I
mean
my
two
cents.
I
think
it
makes
good
sense
to
to
to
revise
the
language
to
to
include
members
of
the
public
we
you're
right.
We
see
many
people
in
front
of
the
council
who
are
not
necessarily
from
the
city
of
bloomington
but
they're
representing
a
company
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
or
they
are
the
legal
representation
of
someone
or
for
for
whatever
reason,
they're,
not
necessarily
a
specific
taxpayer
resident
of
the
city
but
they're
a
member
of
the
public
and
you're
right.
A
E
I'd
also
add
that
it's
kind
of
challenging
to
verify
that
kind
of
information
in
a
live
council
meeting
so
agreed,
I'm
not
seeing
much
opposition
so
I'll
I'll
make
that
change.
The
second
topic
that
I'm
proposing
for
editing
in
this
doc
in
this
section
is
the
time
limit.
If
you
recall,
our
current
rules
or
procedure
have
two
different
time
limits
in
them.
E
There
was
some
discussion
about.
Do
we
want
to
just
say
five
minutes
across
the
board
four
minutes:
three
minutes
the
council,
as
a
body,
can
always
agree
to
grant
more
time.
To
a
speaker,
I
will
say
that
in
general
what
I
observed
among
other
cities
is
somewhere
between
three
and
five
minutes,
and
so
I
mean
there
are
certainly
outliers
as
well,
but
generally
between
three
and
five
minutes
is,
is
what
I've
seen
on
that?
E
I
I
I
can't
remember
how
much
time
you
granted
the
developer,
and
then
you
also
gave
additional
time
either
speak
first
to
the
person
who
you
thought
was
the
the
organizer
of
that.
Now.
If
you
limit
the
amount
of
time
here,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
go
through
a
whole
lot
of
parliamentary
procedure
to
adjust
that,
and
I
got
to
tell
you
these
meetings
really
go
along,
and
so
I
I
really,
I
really
trust
the
presiding
officer
to
kind
of
just
kind
of
say
hey.
I
This
is
what
the
number
needs
to
be
at
for
this
particular
time.
I
could
imagine
if
we
set
this
at
five
minutes
on
some
of
these
things.
We
would
be
in
session
until
three
and
four
in
the
morning,
because
we
we
we
put
five
minutes
on
the
on
there,
whereas
we
know
we've
got
a
big
round
of
people
waiting
there.
Maybe
it
makes
sense
to
do
two
minutes,
or
maybe
it
makes
sense
to
so
I
I
really
wanna.
In
my
opinion,
I
think
less
is
more.
I
A
A
E
E
There
are,
there
are
periodic
references
throughout
the
throughout
these
rules
about
the
amount
of
time
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
to
do
the
last
check.
But
what
I
hear
you
saying
is
something
more
general
in
that
the
presiding
officer
has
the
ability
to
to
limit
the
time
for
speakers.
I'm
I'm
looking
for,
and
I
remember
seeing
an
example
of
how
I
believe
it
was
minnetonka
that
did
it
and
this
way.
A
I
I
do
think
that's
the
direction
that
does
make
sense.
I
think
a
couple
of
different
ways.
First
of
all,
within
public
comment
period,
I
think
we
do
need
to
to
have
the
set
time
period
because
it's
set
as
a
20-minute
period.
We
don't
want
somebody
to
take
up
the
whole
time,
so
a
specific
five
minute,
as
we've
done
in
the
past,
I
think
makes
sense.
A
Does
that
make
sense,
and
that
way,
if
we
have,
if
we
have
a
hundred
people
in
in
line,
we
can
say
yes
we'll
give
in
two
minutes.
If
we
have
two
people
who
want
to
speak
on
it,
we
can
show
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
that
we
can.
We
can
have
the
discussion.
Much
like
we
did.
As
council
member
loman
said,
we
did
the
other
night
when
the
the
developers
spoke
and
then
the
the
spokesperson
from
the
neighborhood
had
roughly
equal
time.
A
F
B
right
now,
I
understand
that,
but
you
referenced
public
com,
the
public
comment
period
a
couple
times
and
you
said
five
minutes
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
that
we
have
three
minutes
in
there.
So
so
I
am
I'm
totally.
I'm
fine
with
councilmember
lohman's
suggestion
to
take
that
specific
sentence
offline
and
come
back
with
a
recommendation.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
I
guess
I
don't
have
any
particular
objection
to
removing
a
specific
time
reference.
I
guess
my
concern
is,
you
know
there
are
obviously
there.
There
are
certain
duties
and
responsibilities
that
fall
to
the
presiding
officer,
but
my
concern
would
be
ensuring
that,
whatever
that
you
know,
if
we're
not
putting
a
specific
time
limit
in
there,
that
that's
a
decision
made
by
the
entire
council
rather
than
solely
the
presiding
officer,
this
is
just
sort
of
one
of
my
if
we
get
a
bad
actor
in
place
and
someone
decides.
G
Oh,
this
is
a
really
controversial
issue
and
I
just
want
to
push
things
through.
I'm
gonna
say
you
know
two
limit
two
minute
or
one
minute
or
thirty.
Second
time
limit
right,
so
I
I
would
just
prefer
to
sort
of
broaden
that
authority
rather
than
invested
in
one
person
in
this
instance,
just
because
I
I
see
a
potential
for
misuse,
not
necessarily
obviously
by
the
current
mayor,
but
by
some
hypothetical
future
person.
So
to
the
to
the
extent,
I
think
that
we
can
put
some
accountability
measures
in
there.
G
J
The
example
that
was
raised
was,
I
think
it
made
sense
to
have
the
project
developer,
provide
a
fullest
story
for
us
to
understand
that
project
and
what
they
were
attempting
to
do
and
how
it
might
fit
in
to
the
community,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
it
makes
sense
to
have
some
type
of
at
least
minimum
or
normal
standard
and
then
allow
them
their
discretion
to
allow
for
more
time.
I
also
think
I,
the
idea
of
a
spokesperson
of
people,
either
for
or
against
an
issue
getting
more
time,
makes
absolute
sense.
J
I
think
there's
something
currently
in
there
about
that,
but
I
just
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
have
anything
that
that
limits
people's
ability,
even
if
we're
there
until
late
into
the
morning.
If
people
want
to
speak
on
an
issue,
I
personally
think
they
should
have
that
opportunity
and
provide
that
information
to
the
public
or.
A
A
No,
I
think,
you're,
that's
what
I
was
understanding.
This
is.
This
is
basically
I'm
reading
this,
as
during
public
public
hearings
is
what
I'm
understanding
this
to
be
not
as
presenters
on
a
on
either
side
of
a
specific
topic.
So,
if
they're,
an
official
representative
presenting
an
issue,
I
I
we've
never
put
time
limits
on
those
folks.
A
E
I
think
so
I
will
say
that
mayor
members,
as
as
you
really
likely
recall
from
previous
discussions,
there
are
very
few
limitations
that
the
council
can
make
with
regard
to
public
contributions
from
the
public.
First
amendment
related
limitations.
Those
limitations
are
generally
referred
to
as
time
place
and
manner
and
time
being
the
amount
of
time.
E
One
of
the
the
tricky
parts
of
of
having
different
time
limits
is
that
the
city
opens
its
up
itself
up
potentially
to
content
based
allegations
that
there
are
content-based
restrictions.
So
that
is
the
the
genesis
of
by
wanting
to
recommend
a
certain
set
of
time.
You
can
certainly
have
a
different
amount
of
time
for
each
hearing.
I
E
E
In
the
intervening
time
since
december,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
some
other
cities
about
how
they
handle
public
comment,
and
I
want
to
just
propose
something
for
your
consideration
before
I
start
talking
about
this.
Might
there
be
a
desire
on
the
part
of
this
body
to
move
public
comment
period?
Rules
such
that
we
would
allow
people
to
speak
on
items
on
the
consent
agenda
and
we
would
move
public
comment
to
before
then
right
now
we
have
public
comment
occurring
after
consent,
business.
E
The
one
benefit
I
see
of
this
is
that
it
decreases
the
likelihood
that
someone
does
not
realize
that
an
item
that's
on
the
consent
agenda
is
going
to
be
handled
in
a
group
vote.
A
cumulative
action
despite
us
stating
that
on
the
agenda,
we
occasionally
will
see
somebody
not
so
much
anymore
because
of
overhead,
but
every
now
and
then
pre-covered.
We
would
see
somebody
who
was
hanging
on
believing
waiting
for
their
item
to
get
called
when
it
had
been
acted
on.
E
Previously,
we
did
when
we
implemented
the
new
software
state
that
very
clearly
on
the
consent
agenda
portion
of
the
agenda.
That
said,
we
still
occasionally
have
experiences
and
I
think,
most
often
they
come
through
the
recording
secretary
under
normal
times,
where
someone
will
approach
the
dais
and
have
a
question
about
something.
That's
on
the
consent
or
they'll
be
trying
to
get
the
attention
of
the
presiding
officer
related
to
an
item
on
consent.
E
They
wouldn't
be
able
to
speak
to
other
items
that
are
on
the
agenda
that
have
a
public
hearing,
but
only
to
consent
and
items
not
on
the
agenda.
So
I'll
just
put
that
out
there
for
your
consideration
and
then
I'll
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
edits
that
I
made
back
in
december.
To
this
section.
The
first
edit
is
taking
out
the
word
residence
and
saying
members
of
the
public
for
the
same
reasons
that
I
talked
about
with
regard
to
the
paragraph
prior
and
that
it's
difficult
to
verify
residency.
E
E
The
20
minutes
is
nothing
magical
about
that
and
you
might
want
to
consider
whether
20
minutes
is
still
the
right
amount,
and
then
I
added
that
the
body
can
vote
to
extend
the
length
of
the
public
comment
period
beyond
whatever
time
you
decided
would
be,
and
then
I
put
language
in
there
you
had
five
minutes.
I
changed
it
to
three
minutes
per
speaker
on
public
comment.
The
last
the
last
edits
on
the
following
page
and
have
to
do
with
removing
gender
pronouns.
E
There
was
one
sentence
that
was
struck
about
terminating
the
right
to
a
speaker's
remarks
in
the
interest
of
efficiency.
It's
my
recommendation
that
you
remove
that
sentence
and
simply
allow
the
person
to
speak
for
those
three
minutes
again.
That
relates
to
the
content
neutral
requirement.
In
the
first
amendment.
A
E
E
E
Point
is
present,
a
concern
is
present
and
requiring
someone
to
provide
their
address.
That
said,
I
think
it
is
very
valuable
if
somebody
says
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
or
I
live
on
the
same
street
or
I
live
two
streets
from
here
or
I
don't
even
live
anywhere
near
this
particular
property.
Those
that
is
relevant-
and
you
know
certainly
could
be
asked
and
sort
of
a
follow-up
question
or
people
could
be
encouraged
to
provide
their
location.
A
G
Thank
you
mayor,
and
this
actually
just
gets
to
the
the
very
point
that
was
just
raised.
I
plan
to
bring
this
up
later,
but
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
ask
folks
not.
I
agree
it's
problematic
to
ask
to
require
folks
to
state
their
address
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
Could
we
ask
folks
to
state
whether
or
not
they
are
a
resident
of
the
city?
G
I
I
mean
I,
I
think,
to
your
point,
melissa
that
it
is.
I
mean
I
even
aside
from
whether
or
not
someone
lives
say
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
project
that
we're
talking
about.
You
know
when,
when
folks
speak
to
us
in
in
any
capacity,
I
think
it
is
relevant
to
know
whether
they
are
residents
or
if
they
own
a
business
in
the
city,
or
you
know
to
something
to
to
that
effect,
without
sort
of
any
kind
of
specific,
identifying
information.
E
A
If
everybody
understood
that
they
could
speak
on
something
on
the
consent
agenda.
And
if
there
was
somebody
on
the
opposite
side,
they
certainly
would
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
something
on
the
consent
agenda
as
well.
So
any
thoughts
on
that
as
we
look
to
try
and
make
our
processes
a
little
more
approachable
and
a
little
more
participatory
for
folks,
council
member
colter
and
then
council
member
lowland.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
I
guess
you
know
I've
been
thinking
about
as
we
is
because
I
remember
when
we
brought
up
the
the
potential
of
allowing
folks
to
to
comment
on
items
on
the
consent
agenda,
and
I
I
guess
I'm
just
a
little
bit
wary
of
that
partially,
because
I
mean
the
purpose
of
the
consent
agenda
is
that
items
are
generally
speaking.
G
G
That
feels
to
me
to
be
a
little
bit
of
an
arbitrary
line,
and
so
I
I
would
I
would
prefer
that
line
be
a
little
clearer.
So
my
preference
would
be
that
that
folks
not
comment
to
any
agenda
items
at
all.
I
think
you
know
we
I
mean
there
will
always
be
folks
who
think
this
should
be
raised
publicly,
and
I
I
you
know.
I
think
that
there
is
an
avenue
for
that,
but
I
I
just
get
wary
of
of
sort
of
lowering
distinctions
that
way.
I
Thanks
yeah,
I
guess
my
comment
on
the
on
the
consent,
piece
and
comment.
I
would
say,
if
stated
it
differently,
if
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
comment
on
that,
why
don't
we
just
get
rid
of
the
consent
agenda
entirely
and
just
open
it
up,
so
that
it's
agenda
items
that
people
can
comment
on
one
one
by
one
and
I
I
could
support
that.
If
that's
the
direction
you
want
to
go
on
and
but
but
yeah,
I
don't.
I
If
we
don't
allow
folks
to
speak
on
the
other
items,
I
think
customer
colter
said
it
pretty
eloquently,
but
I
think
the
direction
I
would
go
is
to
just
eliminate
that
consent
agenda
piece
and
just
make
it
a
part
of
the
regular
agenda
and
folks
could
comment
on
that
in
terms
of
the
as
I
like
to
call
it
edits.
That
would
help
move
things
forward.
One
suggestion
I
have
for
you.
I
don't
really
need
your
comment
on
this.
Why
not?
I
A
I
I
think
I
you've
got
my
point.
There
yeah,
I
think,
there's
a
reason
for
that
and
yeah.
So
I
think
you're
absolutely
right,
but
I
think
that's
the
alternative
I
would
give
to
you.
Is
that
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
say
we
should
get
rid
of
it,
and
I
think
that
the
spirit
of
that
is
is
not
what
we're
trying
to
do
so.
I
think
I
think
we're
in
agreement
on
that.
F
A
A
So
if
it,
if
it
ever
comes
up
as
we
look
to
expand
or
we
limit
limit
the
amount
of
speaking
time
for
people
or
anything
along
those
lines
that
it
can't
be
challenged
because
we
actually
have
it
in
our
in
our
council
rules
or
procedure,
why
don't
we?
I
would
leave
that
to
you,
ms
mandershad,
to
figure
out
what
the
most
efficient
and
effective
way
of
doing
that.
A
I
think
I
mean
there's
some
merit
to
cleaning
it
up
in
that
way,
and
we
did
talk
last
time
about
the
length
of
our
rules
or
procedure.
But
at
the
same
time,
I
think
there
is
some.
As
I
said
there,
there
is
a
use
of
making
sure
that
people
understand
exactly
what
we're
doing
and
why
and
how
and
what
the
limits
on
some
things
are.
So.
E
Mayor
may
remember
so
one
thing
I'll
add
is
that,
even
though
our
rules
are
a
little
bit
longer,
they
are
written
in
very
plain
language
and
although
they
are
covered
in
roberts
again,
that's
a
719
page
book
unless
you're
going
to
go
to
the
library
and
or
have
some
sort
of
weird
obsession
with
parliamentary
procedure
which
some
people
do,
and
I
guess
it's
not
necessarily
weird
people
make
a
career
out
of
it.
But
you
know
it's.
This
is
a
book
not
light
reading.
E
You
know
once
we
take
out
the
strikethroughs
and
whatnot,
but
I
do
see
you
know.
I've
been
mulling
all
this
over
for
months
now,
and
I
do
see
some
value
in
you
know
stating
some
of
this,
and
I
will
just
remind
you
all
that,
in
an
effort
to
provide
an
even
more
condensed
version
for
the
public
and
to
aid
them
in
providing
public
comment
and
public
participation,
we
did
create
a
one
pager.
It's
on
the
city's
website.
E
We
plan
to
translate
it
into
a
couple
of
languages
that
are
spoken
most
frequently
in
bloomington
and
then
post
that
document
outside
of
the
chambers,
so
that
the
public
is
aware
of
the
rules
and
has
ability
to
get
a
copy
of
that
prior
to
entering
several
other
jurisdictions
post
their
roles
outside
of
the
chambers
and
have
found
that
to
not
only
be
helpful
to
the
public,
but
also
to
it's
a
good
practice.
To
get
people
aware
of
the
and
more
comfortable.
A
All
right
hearing
nobody
else,
jumping
up
and
down
in
favor
of
eliminating
all
texts
and
going
back
to
robert's
rules,
and
I
do
agree
that
there's
there's
a
benefit
to
having
it
laid
out
in
front
of
us.
So
I
think
we
we
would
want
to
continue
that.
The
only
final
question
that
I
have
for
the
group
three
minutes
or
five
minutes.
A
A
E
E
I
I
think
that
councilmember
lowman
and
I
will
clean
up
that
language
and
get
it
to
be
a
little
bit
more
spot
on,
so
that
we
use
the
correct
language
for
what
we're
doing.
With
regard
to
motions
to
reconsider
down
on
the
bottom
of
f,
we
have
an
interesting
nuance
in
our
in
our
current
rules
that
doesn't
necessarily
sync
with
robert's
rules
under
a
motion
to
reconsider.
E
E
E
So
that's
a
little
bit,
it's
kind
of
clunky
to
administer
for
the
presiding
officer
and
it
doesn't
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
jive,
sync
whatever
with
roberts,
so
I
would
be
of
an
opinion
to
take
to
clean
up
reconsideration
and
make
it
just
be
during
this
the
same
meeting
that
it
happens
in
so
if
you
want
to
re-write
I'm
getting
double
thumbs
up
from
customer,
so
that
if
you
want
to
reconsider
something-
and
you
would
reconsider,
there's
a
couple
of
reasons.
E
But
most
often
it's
because
you
you,
you
got
some
new
information
along
the
way
or
you
found
out
that
somebody
couldn't
get
through
and
they
now
can.
And
so
you
want
to
hear
their
testimony
and
that
testimony
makes
you
change
your
mind.
Something
like
that,
and
that
happens
all
within
the
same
meeting.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
anything
else,
yes,
I
want
to
make
a
motion
to
reconsider
item
7.3
because
I
just
found
out
that
you
know
mr
johnson
couldn't
get
through
and
he
owns
the
property
blottable
and
then
in
the
alternative.
E
If
it
was
a
later
meeting,
if
it
was
a
subsequent
meeting
and
you
wanted
to
reconsider
the
emotion,
it
would
actually
be
a
motion
to
rescind
or
emotion
to
repeal
a
previous
action
and
it
would
be
based
on
again
additional
information
or
because
it's
now
a
bad
idea
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
I
would
like
to
make
this
recommendation
to
you
and
I
would
restate
these.
E
G
Thank
you
mayor.
I
think
that's
a
fantastic
idea.
I
will
say
from
my
experience
in
my
day
job
I
think
the
motion
to
reconsider
is.
Is
it
meets
a
very
specific
legislative
purpose,
whether
it's
you
know
like
you
say,
new
information
comes
to
light
or
someone
made
an
error
and
voted
the
wrong
way
or
didn't
understand
something
or
something
like
that,
as
opposed
to
no
we're
going
to
go
back
and
correct
something
we
did
at
a
previous
meeting
or
during
a
previous
legislative
session.
G
So
I
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
guess.
As
long
as
I
have
the
floor
here,
one
question
I
have
and
as
you're
rewriting
this,
maybe
this
will
get
addressed.
It
feels
like
the
rest
of
that
paragraph
is,
is
a
little
bit
clunky
as
well,
in
terms
of
the
description
of
what
what
is
and
is
not
the
prevailing
side.
E
Yep,
I
don't
may
or
members
I
don't
disagree.
It
is
clunky
in
part
because
it's
a
two-step
process.
First,
it's
the
motion
to
do
you
want
to
reconsider
and
then
it's
the
actual
reconsideration
and
then
there
there's
often
times
a
question
of
like
who
is
the
prevailing
side.
So
I
wanted
to
try
to
address
that.
But
I'll
do
I'll,
take
another
pass
at
it
and
clean
it
up
further.
K
I
Want
to
say
melissa,
I
appreciate
the
statement
about
the
the
prevailing
side
and
clarifying
that
I
know
we
had
a
situation
earlier
on
a
couple
of
years
back
where
we
had
a
problem
where
we
had
a
thai
vote
and
we
didn't
know
what
to
do
so.
I
appreciate
that
comment
in
there,
so
thank
you
put
that
in
there.
A
Very
good,
so
melissa.
If
you
could
craft
something
as
you
described
to
us,
I
think
it
would
be
would
be
helpful
using
minnetonka,
whatever
page
10
or
as
an
example.
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
starting
place
and
and
council
I'm
I'm
sensing
some
impatience
here
to
move
this
along.
We
we
have
asked
staff
to
do
this
with
us
and
for
us-
and
I
mean
it
grind,
it's
a
bit
of
a
grind
here.
A
I
get
that,
but
we
have
made
that
request
to
staff
to
try
and
clean
these
up
and
do
and
to
get
this
work
done,
and
I
understand
we're
we're
pushing
9
15
here
and
past
9
15..
I
hope
we
could
go
another
five
minutes
or
so
and
then
head
to
our
last
agenda
item,
but
with
the
understanding
that,
of
course,
we
we
have
made
this
request
of
staff
to
help
us
clean
this
up
and
make
this
a
clearer
process
and
a
better
process.
So
I
understand
it
it,
like.
E
E
The
next
section
16
is
the
time
limit.
I
heard
you
all
say
three
minutes
I
took
out
the
gender
pronouns
and
then
uniformly
enforcing
it
to
address
the
content.
Concern
section.
17
is
a
reminder
that
if
a
member
doesn't
vote
that
that
is
recorded
as
an
affirmative
vote,
any
questions
or
comments
on
15,
16
or
17.
A
E
A
A
D
D
D
D
I
A
I
think
we
have
seen
increases
in
both
part
one
and
part
two
crimes
in
specific
part,
one
and
part
two
crimes,
and-
and
I
think,
if
we
wanted
to
have
a
an
update
on
that,
I
would
be
happy
to
ask
the
chief
to
come
in
at
our
next
meeting
and
give
us
a
full
update
as
what
it
would
look
like.
City-Wide
yeah.
G
D
Hotels
have
obviously
been
at
the
forefront
of
conversation
several
of
the
hotels
because
of
the
situations
related
to
the
pandemic
and
the
homelessness.
I
would
also
observe
that
there's
activity
occurring
other
places
that
are
attributable
to
the
hotels
and
with
a
number
of
those
things.
My
observation
is,
it
isn't
necessarily
anything
that
is
specific
to
bloomington.
We
have
outside
actors
coming
into
the
community
and
committing
crimes
here
and-
and
it
fits
a
pattern
of
what
they're
doing
around
the
metro
area
as
well.
F
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
don't
want
to
steal
you
or
council
member
culture
spender,
but
we
do
have
our
oh.
I
am
trying
to
think
that
all
city,
racial
equity
business
plan
community
listening
session
tomorrow
night
at
seven
o'clock,
so
registration
is
available
on
facebook
for
those
who
are
maybe
listening
right
now
and
may
want
to
attend.
I
know
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
the
conversation
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
ask.
I've
actually
been
asked
by
a
couple
of
my
parent
friends.
F
F
That's
in
our
jurisdiction
and
but
I
think,
there's
just
some
confusion
about
what
people
should
or
shouldn't
be
doing,
and
I
know
that
there
was
a
facebook
post
earlier
today
from
the
city
around
doing
halloween
safe
this
year.
But
I'm
just
wondering
if
one
of
you
can
speak
more
to
what
the
city
will
be
providing
in
terms
of
information
or
communication
to
residents
as
halloween
approaches.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
carter,
and
actually
I've
received
a
couple
of
emails
along
those
lines
as
well,
and
I
did
see
the
facebook
posting
earlier
today
about
the
guidance
it's
it
is
not
my
intention
or
plan
to
in
any
way
cancel
halloween
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
I
I
have
no
intention
of
taking
that
on
or
would
do
that.
A
How
how
people
give
out
candy,
I
would
leave
it
up
to
the
to
the
safety
of
the
individuals
and
and
how
they
would
determine
it
can
be
safest,
both
on
a
candy
give
out
and
a
candy
collection
basis.
And,
as
you
said,
the
city
did
put
something
on
facebook
today
about
perhaps
looking
at
other
alternatives
or
different
ways
of
doing
it,
and,
I
think,
there's
different
guidance
out
there,
but
just
to
be
clear.
A
We're
not
canceling
halloween
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
if
there
I
know
there
are
ways
that
it
can
be
done
and
can
be
done
safely
like
much
of
what
we're
doing
now
in
in
ways
that
we
can
make
it
all
work
and
make
it
a
safe
and
fun
event
for
for
the
city
of
bloomington.
So,
mr
verbruge
anything
to
add
to
that.
K
K
K
Does
the
city
need
to
act?
What
items
will
the
city
be
acting
on
for
approval
and
so
on,
and
so
on
so
long
laundry
list
of
questions
and
not
looking
for
a
response
here,
but
something
in
a
reasonably
short
period
of
time,
so
that
I
can
provide
timely
and
accurate
information
to
inquiries
on
that
topic?.
A
A
J
Yeah
thank
you
mayor
and
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
councilmember
buloga's
comments
and
your
comments
mayor.
I
appreciate
that
you'll
provide
the
information
in
terms
of
what
people
can
do.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
concerned
about
how
we're
going
to
help
those
most
vulnerable
in
our
community.
I
think
the
other
thing
is,
if
we're
going
to
have
the
chief
or
somebody
talk
about
public
safety
in
our
community.
J
You
mentioned
the
issues
with
regards
to
the
hotels
I
think
that
is
connected
in
people's
minds
and
maybe,
if
there's
an
update
to
the
council
in
the
community
on
that
security
issue
safety
issue.
That
could
be
part
of
that
update
as
well,
because
I
know
that
that
our
police
force
is
doing
an
excellent
job
with
that
issue
that
our
leadership
is
is
engaged
with
the
county
in
terms
of
mitigating
problems.
J
A
The
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
add.
I
I
had
the
opportunity
this
morning
I
was
over
at
skywater
technologies
when
for
a
ribbon
cutting
for
their
new
expansion
of
their
facility
and
as
those
we
we
approved
this
about
a
year
ago.
I
think
it
was
in
october
here
in
the
council
chambers,
where
we
approved
the
expansion
and
despite
the
pandemic,
despite
the
winter
weather,
despite
all
a
number
of
things,
they
went
great
guns
on
it
and
it
got
completed
and
they
are
going
to
be
opening
it
next
week.
A
Well
ahead
of
schedule-
and
this
addition
is
very
impressive:
it's
about
the
size
of
a
football
field,
four
stories
tall,
two
of
them
underground
and
it's
as
clean
as
an
operating
room,
and
it's
it's
very
impressive.
They're
gonna
be
making
small
microchips
making
microchips
making
them
smaller
and
making
them
that
they
can
be
usable
in
outer
space
in
high
radiation
situations.
So
congratulations
to
everybody
over
at
sky
water.
It's
a
it's
a
great
organization,
great
facility.
It's
going
to
be
additional
jobs
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
A
They've
already
got
a
workforce
of,
I
think
of
more
than
500,
and
this
is
going
to
add
another
50
or
60
jobs
and
they're
just
doing
great
work
over
there.
So
tom
soderman
is
the
the
ceo
of
skywalker
and
they
they're
doing
great
work,
and
so
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
call
out
just
a
great
bloomington
organization,
a
great
company,
that's
doing
great
work
over
over
along
the
minnesota
river
by
the
and
they're
very
thankful
for
the
new
fire
station
close
by
as
well
so
they're
appreciative
of
that.