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From YouTube: August 23, 2021 Bloomington City Council Special Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota City Council Special Meeting
A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
I'd
like
to
call
this
special
meeting
in
the
bloomington
city
council
to
order
this
is
a
as
I
said,
a
special
meeting
wasn't
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting
and
we're
treating
it
as
we
used
to
treat.
I
think
our
study
meetings-
this
we've
got
one
item
tonight
that
we're
just
going
to
study
through
and
work
our
way
through
and
other
than
the
fact
that
we're
down
here
in
the
council
chambers-
and
we
are
on
tv-
it's.
It
is
basically
a
study
meeting.
A
B
A
As
I
said,
we've
just
got
a
couple
of
organizational
business
items
this
evening:
a
discussion
of
the
2022
preliminary
tax
levy
and
general
fund
budget,
and
then
our
regular
city
manager
and
council
updates.
But
we
will
start
with
item
2.1,
which
is
the
2020
preliminary
tax
levy
general
fund
budget
discussion,
mr
baruch
you're,
going
to
kick
thank.
C
This
is
an
exercise
we
go
through
every
every
year
at
this
time,
because
cary
carlson,
our
budget
manager,
is
approaching
the
the
podium
and
she
will
inform
you.
The
the
city
is
required
by
state
law
to
set
a
preliminary
levy
in
september
of
each
year
for
the
coming
year,
and
that
is
the
maximum
amount
that
the
city
may
collect
in
taxes.
C
We
are
eager
to
engage
in
conversation
and
see
where
council
is
at
on
that
recommendation,
and
then
we
have
september
13th
and
then
september.
20Th
are
the
next
council
meetings
where
we
would
likely
discuss
budget
if
there
is
a
desire
by
council
to
continue
to
discuss
it
prior
to
setting
the
levy
itself
so
with
that
is
the
setup
on
the
process.
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
our
budget
manager.
Kari
carlson.
D
So
starting
off
from
some
highlights
from
last
year,
so
last
year,
as
you
recall,
the
city
was
facing
in
2020
a
7.2
million
dollar
decline
in
lodging
and
emission
tax
revenues
due
to
the
pandemic
and
also
as
we
were
working
on
the
2021
budget.
We
were
also
forecasting
for
21
a
5.6
million
decline
in
lodging
and
emission
tax
revenues
so
compared
to
2019.
Before
the
pandemic.
We
brought
in
10.4
million
dollars
in
lodging
and
emission
taxes,
and
we
were
comparing
that
to
only
4.8
million
that
we
are
forecasting
for
2021.
D
and
if
you
recall,
we
did
not
know
until
late
in
the
year
of
2020,
whether
or
not
we
would
receive
all
of
our
property
taxes.
Fortunately,
we
did
almost
receive
close
to
100
percent,
which
is
very
fortunate.
We
are
pleased
that
that
happened,
but
we
didn't
know
that
until
late
in
the
year,
also
not
until
later
in
the
year
did
we
know
that
we
could
use
the
5.5.2
million
dollars
of
the
cares
money.
D
Also
last
year,
the
council
and
mayor
formed
or
appointed
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
to
help
work
through
these
tough
budget
challenges
that
were
caused
by
this
sharp
decline
in
revenue
and
basically
weekly
from
june.
Through
october.
We
met
in
here
with
a
community
budget
advisory
committee
and
they
worked
to
produce
the
three
different
budget
scenarios
that
they
presented
to
the
council
with
different
levels
of
priority,
prioritized
budget
reductions,
options
for
the
council
to
consider,
and
last
year
in
september,
the
preliminary
2021
tax
levy
was
set
at
five.
A
five
percent
increase
over
2020.
D
D
D
D
D
So
the
21
property
tax
amount
that
was
levied
by
the
city
was
about
66.5
million
dollars
and
the
way
that
levy
is
spread
out
across
taxpayers
is
it's
allocated
among
the
the
property
owners
based
on
the
value
and
the
type
of
their
property,
and
what
has
happened
recently
with
market
valuations
that
are
affecting
this.
The
taxes
that
are
going
to
be
paid
in
2022
are
that
housing
values
have
skyrocketed
where
commercial
values
have
decreased,
and
so
that
shift
of
this
overall
tax
burden
is
shifting
from
commercial
to
residential.
D
D
D
D
So
that's
some
just
some
highlights
from
last
year
and
things
that
we
were
talking
about
and
decisions
that
were
made
getting
into
the
2021
environment
kind
of
where
we
are
now
so
in
may
2020.
The
bloomington
unemployment
rate
was
12.2
percent
versus
a
pre-pandemic
rate
of
2.8
percent
in
february
of
2020.
D
D
And
then,
as
we're
watching
what
we
forecasted
for
admission
and
lodging
taxes,
that
does
seem
to
be
tracking.
Well
with
what
we're
forecasting.
We
seem
to
be
a
little
bit
higher
than
what
we
forecasted,
but
what
we're
showing
for
2022.
We
still
think
it's
going
to
be
two
and
a
half
million
less
than
what
we
had
received
in
2019
for
lodging
to
mission
tax
revenues
we
did
find
out.
D
D
For
the
question
about.
Do
you
think
the
economy
will
have
that?
What
impact
if
any
the
economy
will
have
on
your
family
income
in
the
next
six
months?
Thirty
percent
put
positive,
fifty
percent
had
neutral
and
twenty
percent
had
negative
and
then
for
the
question.
That
said,
we
know
that
cova
19
pandemic
is
challenging
in
many
ways.
D
There
was
a
question
that
said:
is
there
anything
the
city
government
of
bloomington
can
do
to
improve
the
business
climate
in
the
city
and
only
six
percent
of
the
respondents
selected
lower
taxes
and
only
one
percent
of
the
business
survey,
respondents
selected
city
spending
and
then
outside
of
the
pandemic?
What
do
you
think
is
the
most
serious
issue
facing
your
business
in
bloomington?
D
And
on
the
question
about
the
amount
of
city
taxes,
if
it
was
a
very
serious
issue
or
somewhat
serious
13
of
the
businesses
put
said
a
very
serious
issue.
45
said
somewhat
serious
and
42
not
a
serious
issue
and
then
on
the
question.
All
in
all,
do
you
think
things
in
bloomington
are
headed
in
a
positive
direction
or
are
things
off
on
the
wrong
track?
87
selected
positive
direction.
D
And
then
on
the
question:
when
you
consider
the
property
taxes
you
pay
and
the
quality
of
city
services
you
receive,
would
you
rate
the
general
value
of
city
services
as
excellent
good,
only
fair
or
poor,
eight
percent
selected
excellent
and
74
selected
good,
and
then
for
this
last
question
here
we
had,
we
said
for
your
information,
approximately
15
percent
of
business
property
taxes
goes
to
the
city
of
bloomington,
meaning
on
a
property
tax
statement.
There's
amounts
that
go
to
the
school
district
and
county
and
state.
D
Does
this
information
change
your
perception
of
the
value
of
city
services?
And,
if
yes,
does
it
make
it
a
much
better
value,
somewhat
worse
or
much
worse,
value,
10
selected,
much
better
42
selected
somewhat
better
and
47
selected,
no
change
and
just
one
percent
somewhat
worse.
So
just
some
highlights
from
our
recent
surveys.
C
D
The
next
area
I
wanted
to
go
over
some
of
the
organizational
issues
that
are
affecting
this,
where
we're
at
right
now
with
the
2022
budget
request.
So
since
the
end
of
last
year,
when
we're
looking
at
the
2022
conceptual
budget,
wage
assumptions
have
definitely
changed.
The
labor
market
is
seeing
a
sizable
wage
growth.
There
are
labor
shortages
and
there's
increasing
inflation
concerns
and
when
checking
with
other
metro
cities
in
our
comparison
group,
no
other
metro
city
imposed
a
similar
wage
freeze,
not
available.
D
And
then
for
the
2022
budget,
we,
it
does
include
a
projected
cost
of
living
adjustment
and
and
wage
step
increases
for
employees
that
are
eligible
for
that.
There
are
also
some
council-directed
initiatives,
such
as
earn
sick
and
safe
leave.
Conversion
therapy
ban
opportunity,
housing,
ordinance,
expanded
racial
equity
work
where,
in
a
a
minute
here
I'll
go
over
some
of
the
new
possession
positions
that
staff
has
identified
to
carry
out
some
of
those
initiatives
and
what
impact
that
has
on
the
budget.
D
This
next
slide
is
these
are
just
issues
they
have
a
net
effect
to
the
budget
of
zero
dollars,
but
it's
going
to
have
some
shifts
between
revenues
and
expenditures
that
I
just
wanted
to
explain
as
we're
looking
at
this
in
the
next
few
weeks,
so
they're,
really
just
auditing
or
accounting
changes.
So
the
first
one
is
park,
maintenance
charges
previously
were
in
the
facilities
fund,
and
then
they
were
charged
back
internally
to
the
general
fund.
D
It's
going
to
be
just
a
direct
charge
right
to
the
general
fund
under
public
works,
so
you'll
see
a
shift
when
you're
looking
at
the
general
fund
budget,
the
park
maintenance
budget
is
going
to
decrease
and
the
public
works
budget
is
going
to
increase,
but
those
are
basically
offset
and
then
the
other
change
happen
is
with
our
public
health
and
it
has
to
do
with
like
annually.
Public
health
distributes
about
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
non-cash
wic
assistance,
so
women,
infant
and
children
assistant
to
clients
to
purchase
supplemental
food
and
it's
fun.
D
It's
federal
funding
that
is
passes
through
the
state
of
minnesota
and
in
our
most
recent
audit.
The
external
auditors
requested
that
the
city
account
for
these
non-cash
transactions
as
a
revenue
and
an
expenditure.
So
our
revenues
went
up
by
one
and
a
half
million
and
our
expenditures
went
up
by
1.5
million,
but
the
net
is
zero,
but
just
to
explain
that.
So,
if
you're
looking
at
the
budget,
that's
why
it
looks
so
much
higher.
D
D
What
they've
shared
most
of
these,
with
the
exception
of
minneapolis
and
saint
paul,
didn't
really
experience
the
revenue
loss
that
we
did
like
we
did
with
our
lodging
and
emission
taxes.
Minneapolis
and
st
paul
were
more
public
with
what
we
had
there.
So
we
have
them
listed
at
the
bottom,
but
when
we
take
all
these
together,
it's
averaging
about
a
preliminary
tax
levy
increase
of
about
5.1
percent.
D
D
So
this
these
are
the
positions
that
are
being
brought
forward
to
implement
some
of
the
new
initiatives
that
we're
working
on
or
to
put
more
energy
behind
initiatives
that
we've
already
been
working
on
so
and
this
it's
not
just
salaries.
This
would
be
fully
the
full
cost
of
salaries
and
benefits
so
for
two
new
positions
to
help
with
compliance
would
be
234
000
and
a
new
another
racial
equity
position
and
some
expanded
with
what
we
already
have
109
000
part
of
last
year.
We
we
did.
D
D
So,
basically,
each
one
percent
is
about
665
000,
more
that
we
would
levy
and
that
tax
levy
impact
is
what
I
was
talking
about
before,
where
even
if
we
don't
have,
even
if
we
have
a
zero
percent
increase,
we
don't
increase
our
overall
tax
levy
because
of
that
shift
from
the
residential
to
commercial
that
the
median
value
home
would
have
a
7.03
cent
increase
per
month
and
that
third
line
is
tax
levy
and
impact.
That's
independent
of
the
market
value.
D
D
So
that's
where
we're
trying
to
use
the
money
from
the
strategic
priorities
fund
to
to
to
help
with
this,
this
tax
with
a
revenue
loss,
and
so
our
goal
is
to
only
use
1.1
million,
that's
what
we've
modeled,
and
so,
if
we
can
keep
it
flat.
If
we
don't
raise
our
taxes
at
all
and
we
only
bring
in
1.1
million
from
strategic
priorities,
we
have
a
funding
gap
of
about
1.7
million,
based
on
everything
that
we
have
in
there
right
now,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
as
it
goes.
D
D
C
Reserve
within
our
strategic
planning,
our
strategic
priorities
fund,
the
intent
was
to
smooth
the
next
few
years
as
we're
managing
through
our
our
revenue
loss.
As
cari
said,
the
1.1
is
a
goal.
We've
tried
to
stick
to
that
because,
frankly,
that's
that's
where
our
comfort
level
is
in
terms
of
building
out
of
this
several
years
from
now.
I
think
that
if
we
were
to
increase
the
amount
of
tax
stabilization
that
we
are
using
from
strategic
priorities,
it
just
creates
a
tougher
circumstance.
C
Several
years
down
the
road
so
staying
in
that
range
of
one
million
dollars
for
the
next
few
years
can
be
sustained
based
on
the
the
funds
within
the
strategic
priorities
and
and
what
we
anticipate
to
be
in
there
over
the
next
several
years.
If
we
go
higher
than
that,
then
I
get
concerned
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
sustain
that
approach
for
a
number
of
years.
C
And
then
again
just
to
reemphasize
that
third
line,
because
this
is
a
new
line
that
we
have
not
included
before,
but
it's
looking
at
the
tax
levy
impact
and
it's
isolating
out
the
market
value.
So
you
know
when
folks
get
their
their
proposed
notice
of
taxation
in
the
middle
of
november,
leading
up
to
our
our
final
budget
and
levy
adoption
in
december.
C
It
will
reflect
the
number
that
the
council
decides
in
september
for
the
preliminary
levy,
but
it's
also
going
to
be
based
on
what
their
change
in
market
value
was.
The
council
knows
this
too,
but
just
making
sure
folks
who
are
watching
follow
along
valuations
for
their
property.
That
will
be
the
basis
of
their
taxes.
Paid
next
year
were
determined
last
april
right.
So,
as
folks
get
that
statement
in
november,
the
proposed
taxation
will
be
based
on
the
valuation
set
in
april
of
this
year.
Okay
and
so
again,
that's
the
seven
dollar
increase.
C
The
median
value
home
in
the
city
of
bloomington
went
up
about
7.3
percent
in
value,
and
that
is
based
on
comparative
sales
within
their
neighborhood.
So
increasing
valuation
of
homes
is
in
most
circumstances,
a
good
thing.
That's
a
net
positive
for
people
for,
for
many
people
in
our
community,
their
home
is
the
single
largest
asset
that
they
have
in
their
value
portfolio.
C
So
to
have
that
asset,
improving
in
value
is
a
good
thing.
It
also
happens
to
be
that
our
taxation
system
is
based
on
the
valuation
of
the
property.
So
what
we've
tried
to
do
with
this
slide
is
isolate,
how
much
of
that
tax
increase
would
be
due
to
the
decisions
of
the
city
and
how
much
is
due
solely
to
the
the
market
and
the
valuation
of
their
home.
C
So
if
you're
somewhere
in
this
one
to
two
to
three
percent
range,
it's
about
a
12
to
38
dollar
impact
for
city
services,
based
on
the
information
that
we
have
today,
just
because
of
what
the
city
is
doing
differently.
Any
other
change
on
the
property.
Node
property
tax
notice
is
going
to
be
driven
by
valuation.
E
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
I
do
just
want
to
go
back
a
couple
slides
kari.
Can
you
go
back
to
that's
page
12.?
I
can't
tell
you
what
slide
it
is
the
the
three
drivers
of
the
yep
there
we
go
so
on
a
subsequent
slide.
You
saw
us
highlight
the
staffing
changes.
We
didn't
have
a
slide
related
to
the
adjusted
base,
salary
or
related
to
the
fire
department
duty
crew.
C
So
the
decision
to
do
that
in
july
has
an
effect
in
2022
to
that
982
000
level.
So
that
is
an
increase.
That
is
not
one
that
we
can
necessarily
adjust
unless
council
wants
to
look
at
the
staffing
levels
for
the
city,
because
those
are
those
are
baked
in
to
our
city
operations
and
then
the
fire
department
duty
crew
hours
just
want
to
reemphasize
again.
C
Over
the
last
couple
years
we
have
been
looking
at
the
the
current
state
and
the
future
state
of
our
fire
department.
You'll
recall
that
we
had
a
service
assessment
to
the
fire
department
done
by
a
firm
called
citygate,
and
they
they
took
the
department
apart
and
identified.
Some
really
important
issues
for
us
to
consider
and
among
those
issues,
are
response
time
and
response
capacity.
C
So
what
we
have
continued
to
see,
since
that
service
assessment
was
done,
is
that
the
the
response
time
and
our
ability
to
mobilize
our
firefighters
to
calls
is
being
significantly
challenged
and
it's
being
challenged
by
a
couple
of
factors.
One
we're
seeing
increased
calls
for
service,
but
two
recruitment
for
patent
call.
Firefighters
is
very
challenging
in
this
day
and
age,
and
so
you
know
we're
trying
to
deliver
greater
service
with
fewer
people
and
we're
running
into
issues
where
we
don't
have
fully
staffed
apparatus
that
are
rolling
at
the
time
of
call
out.
C
C
If
we
receive
the
safer
grant,
it
will
reduce
the
need
to
staff
with
paid
on
call
firefighters,
but
it
will
likely
not
reduce
it
all
together.
So
if
we
are
successful
receiving
that
grant,
then
we
can
back
down
this
one
million
dollar
number,
but
it's
not
going
to
go
to
zero
because
we'll
still
be
supplementing
our
full-timers
with
paid
on
call
firefighters.
C
So
in
this
case
this
is
a
policy
decision
for
the
council
and
it's
a
policy
decision.
That's
hopefully
going
to
be
best
informed
when
we
know
the
outcome
of
the
grant,
which
was
supposed
to
be
sometime
in
the
august
september
time
frame
and
we're
hoping
that
that
notification
is
still
on
track
so
that
we
will
be
able
to
have
this
discussion
prior
to
december
when
we
adopt
our
final
budget
and
levy
so
and
and
then
the
first
one.
C
The
staffing
changes
is
certainly
one
that
we'll
want
to
discuss
with
council
over
the
next
couple
months
as
we
look
at
the
operations.
So
those
are
the
three
drivers
in
the
budget
for
this
conversation
that
are
resulting
in
the
recommendation
for
a
three
percent
preliminary
levy
and
I
think
we'll
open
it
up
for
discussion
and
questions
from
the
council
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
ms
carlson.
Thank
you,
mr
bergie
there's
also
questions
on
this.
We've
heard
it
all
laid
out.
We've
heard
the
the
details
behind
it.
We've
heard
what
we
had
last
year
and
what
we're
looking
at
this
year
and
how
it
all
stacks
up
and
what
the
budget
drivers
might
be
and
looking
for
some
feedback
council
member
carter
and
then
council,
member
beloga,
councilmember
carter,.
B
C
C
So
that's
a
long
way
coming
around
the
corner
council
member
carter
to
say
no,
I
don't
have
a
good
idea
yet
of
where
we're
at
on
commercial
industrial
values,
but
we
can
check
in
with
our
assessing
team
and
see
you
know
where
they
think
that
we're
going
to
land
it's
a
it's
a
good.
I
appreciate
the
question
because
I
think
it's
a
good
reminder
again
that
this
year
this
coming
year
for
22,
we
had
a
relatively
unique
environment
is
that
we
had
an
exceptionally
positive
environment
for
single-family
residential.
C
You
know
sales
everybody's
been
seeing.
What's
in
the
newspaper
and
information
about
how
long
houses
are
on
the
market,
if
there
even
are
houses
on
the
market,
I
mean
you
know:
supply
is
very
low.
They're
on
the
market
very
few
days
and
they're
getting
the
the
asking
price
is
usually
being
met
or
exceeded
in
almost
every
case,
and
so
what
that's
doing
is
it's
creating
upward
pressure
on
valuations,
and
so
that's
about
seven.
Like
I
said
seven
point:
three
percent
was
the
market
value
increase
for
median
value
homes
this
year.
C
At
the
same
time,
the
pandemic
hit
several
several
industries
pretty
hard.
That
happened
to
have
a
pretty
significant
presence
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington
retail
and
lodging
both
took
pretty
significant
hits
this
year
and
the
reduction
in
commercial
industrial
value,
combined
with
the
increase
in
residential
value,
has
created
this
situation,
where
there's
a
little
bit
more
of
the
tax
burden
being
shared
by
single
family
homeowners
than
you
than
as
usual
in
the
community.
C
Historically,
bloomington
is
one
of,
if
not
the
only
state
city
in
the
state
that
has
single-family
residential
properties
representing
less
than
half
of
the
total
tax
base.
That's
a
really
good
thing
for
our
homeowners,
and
this
this
past
year
is
one
of
those
situations
where
the
market
conditions
related
to
commercial.
Industrial,
combined
with
the
positive
market
conditions
for
residential
housing
mean
that
we're
just
shifting
a
little
bit
towards
housing.
When
we,
when
we're
doling
out
all
the
taxes.
B
B
Hopefully
you
know,
fingers
crossed
retail
and
lodging
will
be
in
a
much
better
position.
You
know
there
will
be
a
shift
back
to
the
commercial
tax
base
a
little
bit
at
least
like
is
there
a
possibility?
We
may
not
need
those
tax
stabilization
funds
in
2024
2025,
and
I
understand
it
may
not
be
possible,
but
I
want
to
ask
the
question.
C
Mr
mayor
and
council
members
council
member
carter,
it's
a
good
question
to
ask,
and
you
know
if
we
were
just
doing
our
budgets
on
sort
of
a
one-year
or
two-year
look,
then
it
might
be
one
that
we
would
say
yeah
that
might
be
a
decent
idea,
we're
modeling
out
a
number
of
years
into
the
future
and
the
most
important
figure
for
that
modeling
right
now
is
the
recovery
of
our
admissions
and
lodging
tax.
That's
the
one!
C
That's
really
going
to
tell
us
whether
we
have
the
flexibility
to
do
exactly
what
you're
asking
council
member
carter
and
what
we're
seeing
right
now
our
staff
is
meeting
every
two
weeks
they
go
through
all
of
the
economic
data.
All
the
trends
we're
seeing
that
this
is
probably
going
to
track
very
similar.
C
So
that
being
you
know
the
biggest
wild
card
in
our
revenues,
that's
one
that
we're
not
forecasting
is
going
to
increase
more
than
we
expect.
If
it
were,
then
we
might
have
that
flexibility.
So
again
long
way
of
saying
I
wouldn't
advise
doing
that.
But
if,
if
council
wants
us
to
look
at
it,
we
can
certainly
model
it.
C
D
So,
for
this
is
what
it
looks
like
with
a
three
percent
tax
levy
increase
and
then
for
2023
this.
If
there
is
a
three
percent
tax
levy
increase,
I
had
5.31
modeled,
but
that
is
if
we
have
a
one
and
a
half
percent
increase,
that's
for
debt
service,
so
the
part
that's
not
related
to
debt
service
is
that
3.81.
C
C
C
So
we
can
have
assessing
pull
some
numbers
at
different
ranges
to
see
what
those
impacts
are,
but
it
won't
fully
answer
the
question
council
member
beloga
because
each
home,
just
as
it
won't
with
every
home,
that's
at
the
median
value.
You
know
if
somebody's
in
that
300
to
310
range
they're,
not
necessarily
going
to
have
the
exact
same
number
just
because
each
home
circumstance
is
different
in
terms
of
how
their
valuation
has
changed
from
one
year
to
the
next.
F
Absolutely,
but
it
also
shows
more
information
on
the
movement
between
the
various
brackets,
and
my
sense
of
it
is
is
that
the
entry
level
homes,
the
lower
cost
homes
will
be
at
an
accelerated
rate
throughout
the
city,
as
opposed
to
the
higher
value
homes
and
I'd
like
to
understand.
If
that's,
if
the
numbers
bear
that
out
the
factual
data.
C
F
C
Yeah,
I
think
one
thing
we'll
ask
the
assessing
department
to
model
for
us
is
which
strata
within
the
within
the
valuations
have
seen
the
largest
increases.
I
think
that
will
tell
us
right
so
if
homes
in
the
250
to
275
range
are
increasing
at
a
pace
greater
than
the
median
value
home,
then
yes
they're
going
to
have
a
greater
impact,
because
it's
it's
going
to
be
based
on
what
that
comparison
is
to
the
7.3
percent.
A
G
A
G
I
just
got
a
couple
here,
quick,
and
I
appreciate
councilmember
veloga's
question
regarding
the
impact
at
different
price
points.
That
was
one
of
mine.
The
other
part
of
that
just
to
follow
up
is
the
impact
on
apartments
and
what
some
of
the
people
living
in
our
apartments
might
be
experiencing
because
of
this,
because
I
think
that
might
fall
in
between
housing
and
commercial,
and
so
it
would
be
interesting
to
know
for
those
that
are
renting
in
our
community
how
this
might
impact
them.
C
G
Great
thank
you
and
then
for
clarification
on
the
budget.
Stabilization
is
that-
and
this
is
probably
just
a
memory
issue
in
my
end,
but
is
that
entirely
from
the
federal
dollars
or
do
we
also
have
positive
budget
variants
towards
that,
and
or
do
we
have
podget
positive
budget
variance
that
we
could
put
towards
that.
D
C
G
Okay,
thank
you.
Last
year.
Obviously,
we
had
the
committee
that
made
recommendations
to
us.
We
largely
adopted
what
they
had
recommended
to
a
certain
level,
but
in
that
we
made
budget
cuts
to
a
variety
of
programs.
Does
the
budget
for
next
year
assume
that
those
will
continue?
Does
it
assume
that
they
will
go
back
to
what
they
had
been
pre-pandemic
or
what
are
the
assumptions
in
the
budget?
With
regards
to
the
decisions
we
made
in
the
2021
budget,.
D
Mayor
council,
members,
council,
member
nelson
for
the
most
part
those
decisions
carried
through,
so
they
were
permanent
decisions
where
the
positions
that
were
reduced
or,
if
or
terminated,
were
not
carried
forward
in
some
of
the
cases
like
for
for
training
that
was
reduced
or
travel
that
some
of
that
was
brought
back.
But
a
lot
of
those
those
big
decisions
that
were
made
were
carried
forward.
G
Okay,
just
in
general
would
be
nice
to
kind
of
see
if
any
of
those
assumptions
had
changed
like
the
travel
and
things
like
that
just
so,
we
have
an
understanding
of
of
of
that
portion
of
the
budget.
I
guess
considering
that
the
budget
advisory
committee
spent
so
much
time
making
those
recommendations.
G
If
we're
going
to
unwind
them,
it
would
be
nice
to
just
do
it
explicitly.
So,
thank
you
for
the
clarification
and
then
the
last
question
I
have,
which
is
probably
a
series
of
three
questions,
but
I'll
just
call
it.
One
question
is
regarding
the
payroll
and
it
provided
some
detail,
and
I
just
at
some
point
would
like
some
more
detail
on
this,
because
I'm
struggling
to
get
my
head
around
a
couple
of
things.
G
G
The
conversion
therapy
ban
two
things
from
my
recollection.
There
were
only
two
providers
within
the
city
at
the
time
we
did
the
ban
and
the
state
has
come
in,
and
impact
put
in
place
by
executive
order,
their
own
ban
on
it,
so
why
we
don't
just
defer
that
to
the
state
to
enforce,
and
then
we've
been
running
with
the
opportunity
housing
ordinance
for
a
couple
of
years
without
having
to
have
additional
staff.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council,
member
nelson.
It's
a
great
question,
and
this
is
where
the
budget
is
an
exercise
in
forecasting
as
much
as
it
is
in.
You
know,
responding
to
some
other
demands,
so
we
do
have
you're
right.
We
do
have
the
process
going
on
right
now
for
development
of
an
urn,
sick
and
safe
leave,
ordinance
that
will
be
considered
by
the
city
council
and
it's
not
presumed
that
that
ordinance
will
pass.
C
However,
if
it,
if
it
is
approved
by
the
council,
there
is
going
to
be
a
compliance
component
of
it
that
it
will
be
necessary,
and
so,
as
we
have
researched
the
issue
and
we've
been
sharing
with
the
working
group,
the
cities
that
have
also
implemented
earn,
sick
and
safe
leave.
Thus
far,
all
they
have
varying
degrees
of
of
compliance,
staffing
and
so
looking
at
the
number
of
businesses
that
we
have.
C
C
The,
but
the
biggest
driver
is
clearly
the
earn,
sick
and
safe
leave
ordinance.
But
the
point
of
including
those
others
is
that
we
know
they
have
compliance
elements.
Also.
It
was
recently
shared
with
you
as
part
of
our
racial
equity,
updates
that
we
are
working
on
contracting
city
contracting,
so
things
like
disadvantaged
business
enterprises
that
if
we
have
a
program
in
that
regard,
that
we
would
have
compliance
issues
there
as
well.
F
C
Could
say
that
we're
going
to
fund
these
for
the
whole
year
or
we
could
say
that
there's
likely
to
be
if
the
earned
sick
and
safe
leave
ordinance
is
adopted.
Some
delayed
effective
date
because
there'll
be
a
fair
amount
of
education
and
information
that'll
be
necessary
for
businesses.
So
I
would
anticipate-
maybe
upwards
of
you
know,
nine
months
to
a
year
of
an
effective
date
for
a
policy
like
that.
C
We
would
want
to
have
compliance
staff
in
place
for
about
six
months,
leading
up
to
that,
because
those
would
be
the
folks
who
would
be
primarily
responsible
for
doing
that
type
of
education
with
the
business
community.
So
you
could
potentially
fund
these
for
half
of
the
year
in
the
first
year.
The
third
option
is
that
we
don't
include
them
in
our
budget
when
it's
adopted,
we
wait
for
the
ordinance
to
be
approved,
and
then
we
would
come
back
and
make
a
budget
amendment
and
identify
where
the
funds
may
come
from.
C
At
that
point,
I
would
suggest
that
it
would
probably
come
for
strategic
priorities
the
first
year
and
then
we
would
build
that
into
our
budget
in
subsequent
years.
If
that
were
indeed
how
the
council
did
it,
so
it's
those
kind
of
flexibility
options
for
how
we
approach
this,
that
you
know
we're
hoping
to
work
through
with
the
council
over
the
next
several
months.
G
Great,
I
appreciate
that
information
just
two
more
aspects
to
this
one
question
on
the
staffing,
so
there's
a
part-time
hr
position.
Then
an
accounting
assistant
portion,
part
of
it
is
for
payroll
and
yet
from
the
information
we
got,
we
were
down
23
staff
members
we're
adding
back
a
few
of
them
potentially
in
this.
G
C
Sure,
mr
mayor
council,
members,
council
member
nelson
one
we'll
get
into
more
specifics
in
the
departmental
reviews
as
we
go
through
the
budget
season,
you
know
having
more
conversation
with
the
council.
What
I
would
say
for
each
of
these
positions
is:
yes,
we
had
a
head
count
reduction,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
equate
to
workflow
for
our
hr
department,
because
we
have
recruitments
that
are
ongoing
and
we've
seen
an
increased
number
of
recruitments.
C
That's
a
pretty
significant
challenge
for
one
person
and
it
doesn't
provide
for
a
high
level
of
confidence,
for
you
know
contingencies.
If,
if
something
were
to
happen
there,
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
protect
the
interests
of
the
city
in
in
the
operation
of
our
finance
department
and
our
payroll
operation,
and
recognizing
that
we
need
to
have
some
additional
capacity
there.
C
If
we
are
moving
to
a
hybrid
system,
if
we
receive
the
federal
grant
for
18
new
firefighters,
a
good
amount
of
that
payroll,
and
perhaps
all
of
it
will
be
shifting
over
into
the
finance
department.
And
so
that's
going
to
create
an
additional
responsibility
for
the
payroll
accountant
to
have
every
every
two
weeks.
G
Great
and
then
my
last
part
of
the
same
question
relates
to
the
revenue
side
of
a
couple
of
these
items
we
have
the,
which
is
was
mentioned
by
akari
the
grant
coordinator
and
that
we
probably
have
some
grant
revenue.
My
assumption
is:
there's
not
much
reason
to
hire
a
grant
coordinator
unless
they
can
generate
at
least
as
much
as
we
pay
them,
if
not
some
multiple
of
that,
and
how
will
we
factor
that
into
the
budget?
The
other
part
of
it
is
the
public
health
specialist.
G
D
Mayor
council,
members,
council,
member
nelson-
that
is
something
that
we
can
get
some
more
information
for
you
on
that.
On
for
this
initial
look,
we
did
not
have
any
of
those
revenues
as
part
of
the
budget
request,
so
it's
just
the
expense
side.
So
we
can
look
to
see
if
there
would
be
some
additional
revenues
available.
G
I
appreciate
that
and
having
done
many
budgets,
I
understand
sometimes
it's
much
easier
to
figure
out
the
expenses
and
then
you
kind
of
work
back
into
the
revenues
of
what
it's
going
to
take
to
support
those
functions,
and
things
like
that
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
on
the
radar
that
we're
focused
on
that
in
the
budget
too.
So
thank
you
for
the
answers.
I
appreciate
it.
E
E
E
You
know
what
do
we
typically
see
in
other
cities
of
our
size?
How
much
does
it
cost
to
do
business
and
there's
you
know,
there's
you
know,
there's
several
different
ways
to
kind
of
kind
of
look
at
that
that
question.
You
know
you
know
you
could
have
a
staff,
that's
not
paid
well
and
they
don't
produce
the
type
of
quality
a
product-
that's
out
there,
so
I'm
not
asking
for
that.
E
The
minimum
amount
that's
out
there,
and
I
know
this
is
a-
is
almost
an
impossible
question
to
ask,
and
I
also
would
hope
that
you'd
be
able
to
opine
a
little
bit
on
turnover
ratios,
and
I
know
later
down
in
your
in
the
slide
presentation.
We
talked
about
that.
No
other
metro
cities
in
the
comparison
group
imposed
similar
wage
freezes
for
2021,
but
also
when
we
look
at
those
comparison
cities,
we
look
at
both
their
population.
E
You
know
in
terms
of
what
we're
at
so,
so
I
I
hope
that
that's
clear
enough
there
to
kind
of
give
you
something
to
work
from,
because
I
just
I
mean
when
we
look
at
how
much
we're
paying
for
staffing,
which
is
a
large
part
of
our
our
budget,
help
to
help
me
understand.
So
I
can
explain
that
to
the
public
sure.
C
Mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council,
member
lohman,
I
do
understand
what
you're
asking
right.
So,
let's,
let's
take
it
in
a
couple
pieces
here.
First
of
all,
our
staff
represents
about
70
of
our
total
operations
right,
so
the
the
wages
and
benefits
that
we
pay
for
the
people
who
work
for
the
city
of
bloomington
is
about
70
percent
of
our
total
operating
in
the
general
fund.
C
C
But
what
we
do
is
we
try
to
look
at
what
we
call
the
cost
of
government,
so
it
isn't
just
the
property
taxes
that
we
will
also
look
at
the
other
services
that
that
residents
pay
for,
and
so
that's
things
like.
What's
on
their
utility
bill
right,
it's
the
storm
water
and
the
sewer
and
the
water
bill.
It's
the
cost
for
trash
and
recycling
collection,
which
is
also
in
there.
C
A
couple
of
other
interesting
notes:
there
is
that
we
have
a
calculation
in
there
for
the
cost
of
water
softening
because
bloomington
famously
has
tremendous
water
and
not
every
community
does
and
not.
Every
community
chooses
to
treat
their
water
to
the
level
that
we
do,
and
so
they
have
very
hard
water
residents
in
communities
like
that
typically
have
water
softeners
and
they
have
to
pay
for
both
the
water,
softeners
and
the
you
know
the
softening
salt
and
everything
else.
C
So
we
put
all
of
those
costs
together
and
this
list
of
communities
that
kari
provided
for.
You
is
the
peer
group
that
we
tend
to
compare
ourselves
to
and
we
are
annually
at
the
bottom
of
that
group
when
you
put
the
cost
of
the
city
tax
paid
for
the
median
value
home,
the
cost
for
utility
fees,
the
cost
for
franchise
fees
and
garbage
collection.
We
are
regularly
at
the
bottom
or
the
second
from
the
bottom.
Amongst
those
communities
we
compare
ourselves
to.
C
We
don't
know
what
all
of
the
cities
are
doing
with
all
of
those
different
service
areas
for
2022.
So
I
can't
show
you
that
comparison,
but
we
can
produce
that
again.
We
showed
it
frequently
during
our
budget
process
last
year
and
that's
one
that
we
can
show
again
just
to
re-emphasize
the
value
that
bloomington
residents
get
for
what
they
pay
for
their
services,
especially
compared
to
peer
communities.
E
I
appreciate
that
because
I
do
think
that
oftentimes
when
we
talk
about
this
head
count
and
that
kind
of
thing,
I
think,
sometimes
that
detail
can
get
lost
when
you're
when
you're
doing
a
comparison
and
so
and
that's
kind
of
the
question,
I'm
always
asking
myself:
where
do
we?
Where
do
we
rank
with
our
cost
of
service
that
we
provide
when
we
compare
that
to
other
municipalities,
and
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
when
we
we
get
that
out
there
we'll
see
what
that
looks
like
again.
E
I
know
we
do
that
every
year,
but
a
lot
of
folks,
because
I
look
at
that,
and
I
want
to
see
what
that
cost
one.
Other
thing
too,
just
as
I
move
to
my
next
question
here
that
I
haven't
seen
too
much
in
recent
years
is
around
fiscal
disparities
and
how
you
know:
we've
been
the
number
one
pair
of
that
fiscal
disparities
for
many
years
running
and
how
that
impacts
our
budget
kind
of
moving
forward
from
how
much
money
we
contribute
back
to
the
general
community
because
of
our
our
fiscal
position.
E
So
you
sort
of
took
it
a
little
bit
here
kind
of
anticipated.
My
other
question
here,
which
is
around
fees
and
taxes
that
residents
can
expect
to
pay.
I
like
how
what
we
have
here
in
this
initial
look
here
in
terms
of
if
we
isolate
out
the
property
value
increase,
which
you
talked
about
earlier,
if
we
kept
it
at
zero,
you'd
still
pay
seven,
because
your
property
value
at
the
median
value
would
increase.
E
So
what
I
want
to
understand,
though,
is
when
we
talk
about
those
fees
that
are
on
that.
Do
we
have
an
understanding
of?
Let's
say
we
did
do
that
5,
I'm
not
saying
that
I
would
support
a
five
percent
increase.
You
know,
I
think
it
was
12
bucks,
but
if
we
take
the,
you
know,
take
it
down
to
that
piece
that
you're
now
responsible
for,
if
I
add
that
fee
on
per
month,
what
does
that
look
like?
We
talk
about
solid
waste.
E
We
talk
about
these
other
fees,
because
sometimes
what
ends
up
happening
is
those
dollars
get
hidden
in
the
other
other
other
buttons,
and
so
what
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
earlier
was
even
when
you
add
all
of
that
up
we're
still
at
the
bottom
of
that.
Is
that
still
the
case
when
we
add
the
fees
on
to
that
help
me
understand
that.
C
Mr
mayor
and
council
members
council,
member
lowman,
it
has
been
the
case
that,
with
fees
and
city
taxes-
yes,
we've
been
at
the
bottom
or
second
to
the
bottom.
Looking
forward
to
2022,
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
give
you
that
that
estimate,
because
I
could
only
take
what
we
know
to
be
preliminary
numbers
for
these
other
cities
and
plot
those,
and
even
that
is
a
little
bit
of
a
you
know,
a
difficult
proposition
to
get
accurate
information.
C
What
we
can
do
is
show
where
we
are
this
year
and
where
we
would
be
next
year
with
that
same
group
based
on
where
all
of
them
are
for
the
all
of
the
all
of
those
cities
are
for
this
year
right,
and
so
it
wouldn't
be
a
true
reflection.
We'd
be
a
year
ahead,
but
you'd
still
be
able
to
see,
and
then
maybe
project
where
some
of
these
other
cities
are
going
to
be
because
all
of
them
are
proposing,
at
least
for
preliminary
levy
tax
rates
higher
than
the
city
of
bloomington.
E
For
a
long
time,
we've
had
a
model
with
with
respect
to
our
fire
department,
where
we've
had
a
model
where
we
haven't
had
to
pay
as
much
as
other
cities
had
to
pay
for
fire
services,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
level
with
our
residents
that
how
much
that
would
cost.
I
know
we've
got
the
grant
monies
out
there,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
understand
is
you
know.
E
We
have
a
certain
level
on
expectation
around
services,
we're
nationally
known
for
our
services
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
and
I
think
our
residents
expect
that
that
level
of
service,
and
so
when
I
look
at
the
fire
fire
staffing
that
we've
got
out
there.
I
know
we've
got
the
three
battalion
that
are
out
there
and
then
the
other
staffing
that
we're
looking
to
do
with
the
on
the
paid
on
call
piece
where
folks
would
be
able
to
stay
within
the
fire
stations.
E
We
have
that
that's
out
there,
and
then
we
also
have
the
risk
if
there
is
a
downturn
from
a
finance
standpoint
of
our
investment,
with
respect
to
our
contributions
to
our
volunteer,
firefighters
and
a
pension
piece,
can
you
help
me?
You
know:
can
you
alpine
a
little
bit
on
that
in
terms
of
I
know,
I
asked
you
this
question
earlier
last
week,
but
I
want
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
that.
If
we
were
just
to
say
you
know
we
want
to
handle
this
fire
thing
and
make
the
transition
to
be
prepared.
C
So
the
fire
pension
fund
is
in
good
shape
right
now
for
the
2022
budget,
we're
only
going
to
be
obligated
to
send
the
pass-through
money
from
the
state
since
the
investments
at
year
end
last
year.
2020
did
so
well,
so
we're
estimating
to
end
2022
with
the
working
capital
balance
of
about
6.5
million
dollars
in
a
fire
pension
fund
and
we're
modeling
out
an
average
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
obligation
payments
in
future
years
and
and
that
does
include
gradual
property
tax
support
for
that
fire
pension
fund.
C
E
C
Okay
and
council
member
loman,
that's
it's
it's
a
good
question
that
if
we
were
to
have,
I
think,
a
number
of
years
of
poor
yield.
Then
we
would
certainly
be
in
more
difficult
position.
I
think
if
we
have
one
down
here,
we're
fine
and
you
know
the
way
the
market
is
that's,
usually
up
and
down
up
and
down.
C
B
Thank
you
mayor.
Excuse
me
just
a
few
quick
one
part
questions,
because
that's
all
I'm
really
capable
of
handling
just
to
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
correctly
for
a
three
percent
levy
increase
that
would
put
us
roughly
277
000
in
the
black
and
a
flat
levy
would
have
us
roughly
1.7
million
in
in
the
red.
B
C
C
D
B
B
B
B
That
does
include
the
one
1.5
for
debt
service
and
then
my
my
last
question
really
is
you
know
I
recall
last
year
the
budget
advisory
committee,
you
know
they
went
through
and
they
made
their
recommendations
and
then
that
whole
long
list
of
essentially
but
potential
budget
cuts,
and
so
I
guess
my
my
question
is
how
much
of
that
list
you
know
knowing
where
it
was
and
and
what
the
recommendations
were.
How
much
of
that
list
would
still
that's
more
of
a
future
question?
How
much
of
that
list
would
still
be
offerable?
B
And
then
my
point
in
bringing
that
up
is,
I
think
you
know
my
my
approach
with
this
is
you
know
we
had
agreed
at
this
that
you
know
that
that
flat
levy,
the
zero
percent
levy
would
conceptually
be
where
we
started
for
this
year,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
essentially
us
saying
you
know,
that's
where
that's
where
we
said
we
were
going
to
start
here.
Why
can't
we
do
this?
What
you
know
using
that
using
that
list
and
the
other
information
that
we
have?
B
C
C
If
folks
weren't
paying
attention
to
a
council
meeting
two
weeks
ago
there,
you
know
they
wouldn't
know
what
that
discussion
was
about,
but
we
were
trying
to
model
what
it
would
take
over
the
series
of
about
10
years
to
address
the
necessary
infrastructure,
replacement
and
rehabilitation
in
our
capital
improvement
plan,
and
so
that
one
and
a
half
percent
of
debt
service
is
what
we
had
conceptually
talked
about.
So
somebody
should
not
look
at
this
and
say
that
is
presumed
either
and
those
are
both.
C
C
So
having
said
that,
your
question
about
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
process
last
year
and
the
list
of
potential
reductions,
the
cbac,
had
tiered
those
recommendations
and
many
of
the
first
tier
reductions
were
the
ones
that
ultimately
were
accepted
and
approved
by
the
city
council,
presumably
because
the
tier
2
and
tier
3
reductions
were
more
onerous
than
the
council
thought.
The
communities
was
willing
to
accept
in
terms
of
a
reduction
of
services.
C
C
You
asked:
are
those
things
still
possible,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
something
on
that
list
that
we
have
stopped
doing,
and
I
don't
think
there
is
so
if
we
were
to
go
back
to
that
list,
my
guess
is
that
most
of
them
would
be
potential
reductions
that
we
could
evaluate,
and
if
part
of
that
exercise
is
to
your
point
of
you
know,
budget
decisions
or
policy
decisions
is
weighing
what's
more
important.
Then
we
can
certainly
do
that
exercise
over
the
course
of
the
next
couple
months.
B
Thank
you
and
I,
I
think,
just
to
sort
of
close
the
loop
on
that
would
I
I
think
you
responded
to
that
in
in
the
way
that
I
I
would
have
expected,
and
I
I
think,
what
I'm,
what
I'm
getting
at
is
just
what
is
the
sort
of
the
full
range
of
options
that
we
have
in
terms
of
the
budget
decisions
that
we
we
will
be
facing
this
year.
So
I
think
I
think
that
that
is
clear.
So
thank
you.
G
D
Yes,
mayor
council
members,
council,
member
martin,
that
is
what
I
have,
and
this
is
just
a
very
preliminary
look
at
what
is
possible
with
our
current
projections.
But
that
is
what
is
projected
in
the
strategic
priorities:
long-term
model
starting
in
2023
and
every
year
doing
500
000,
and
that
was
one
thing
that
we
did
have
previously
in
the
tax
levy,
and
that
was
something
that
went
away
in
the
2021
budget
in
the
22
budget.
G
Okay,
gotcha
all
the
way
through
so
then
out
to
25,
then
kind
of
my
second
question.
If
we
were
to
front
load
some
of
that
funding,
anticipating
the
recovery
to
councilmember
carter's
point
happens
a
little
bit
faster
and
the
model
is
exactly
what
we're
projecting
now.
If
we
moved
half
a
million
dollars
out
of
that
final
year
up
ahead,
we
would
be
half
a
million
dollars
short
in
2025
if
everything
is
perfectly
what
we're
guessing
now.
G
F
G
G
Yeah,
just
just
how
much
if
we
wanted
to
front
load
some
of
that
strategic
priorities
to
pick
up
expenses
now
and
the
recovery
ends
up
taking
just
as
long
as
staff
thinks
I'm
just
thinking.
Okay,
how
much
are
we
gonna
have
to
scramble
then
in
2025
to
make
up
the
difference?
Okay,
that
makes
sense.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
I've
got
some
just
kind
of
general
thoughts
to
share
in
a
little
bit
here,
but
that's
my
questions.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
martin,
councilmember,
blog
I'll,
get
you
in
just
a
second.
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
question
or
the
statement
by
council
member
coulter
that
this
this
notion
of
budget
decisions
policy
decisions,
how
they
go
hand
in
hand.
Is
it
safe
to
say
so
our
ranking
that
lowest
among
our
peer
communities,
which
was
obviously
a
policy
and
budget
decision
for
a
number
of
years?
That
was
that
was
the
goal
to
keep
things
as
low
as
possible,
but
now
to
look
at
the
ramifications
of
that.
A
As
I
look
at
this
necessary
debt
services,
we've
talked
about
the
needs
that
we
have
in
our
facilities
and
our
buildings
and
and
our
just
our
infrastructure
here
in
town.
I
think
that's
a
good
example
of
yes.
Policy
and
budget
decisions
go
hand
in
hand,
and
there
are
long-term
ramifications.
To
that
I
mean.
Is
that
a
safe,
a
safe
assumption,
a
correct
thing
to
say.
A
A
So
I
think
we
need
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
kind
of
look
at
this,
not
just
in
the
here
and
now,
but
in
the
future
as
well,
because
I
I
appreciate
the
the
decisions
that
were
made
in
the
past,
but
now
we're
we're
we're
dealing
with
that.
Currently
with
the
this
need
for
reinvestment
and
infrastructure.
A
I
do
think-
and
I
agree
fully
with
council
member
culture.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
options
on
the
table
to
look
back
at
that
stock
doing
list
and
are
there
options
there
that
we
can
that
we
could
follow
up
on?
I
think
we've
had
you
know.
Highland
greens
was
a
a
wonderful
example
of
that
working
that
notion
working
where
we
that's
been
removed
from
from
city
responsibility
and
ultimately
from
the
city
budgeting
requirements.
A
But
we
still
have
golf
in
at
highland
greens
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
options
or
different
ways
that
we
might
want
to
consider
that
as
well
ways
that
we
could
replicate
that
in
some
way
that
we
could
have
that
stop
doing
list
to
creatively
use
that
to
stop
something,
but
in
a
way
continue
that
service
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
just
one
thing
to
consider
and
think
about
as
we
move
forward.
C
Mr
mayor
and
council
members
appreciate
that
suggestion,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
over
the
next
couple
months
is
highlight
some
places
where
we
are
seeing
that
maybe
it's
not
a
conscious
decision
to
stop
doing
a
certain
service,
but
there
have
been
a
number
of
changes
in
our
operations
over
the
last
couple
years
that
are
yielding
benefits.
One
that
immediately
comes
to
mind
is
in
our
fleet,
service
and
you'll.
Remember
we
had
an
assessment
done
of
the
fleet
service.
C
One
of
the
things
they
identified
was
what
was
referred
to
as
the
shadow
fleet
right.
The
number
of
vehicles
that
just
sort
of
get
passed
down
and
get
assumed,
rather
than
getting
phased
out.
We
have,
over
the
last
three
four
years,
actually
reduced
that
shadow
fleet
by
about
60
vehicles
was
that
the
number
kari.
C
F
F
C
Mr
mayor
and
council
members,
I
have
not
had
information
from
the
school
district.
I
did
talk
to
our
county,
commissioner
for
our
district,
who
also
happens
to
be
the
budget
chair
for
the
county
board,
and
commissioner
gotel
did
not
suggest
a
specific
number
they're,
still
working
their
way
through
that
leading
up
to
the
preliminary
levy.
C
F
If
we
can
have
that
as
soon
as
it's
available,
that
would
be
helpful
because,
of
course
it's
you
know
the
other
two
legs
of
the
three-legged
stool
that
affect
our
tax
base.
So
thanks
for
that
information,
as
it
becomes
available,
we
we
talked
about
increases
and
it's
about
a
million
dollars.
982
000,
if
I
recall,
which
is
increases
of
pay
for
city
staff.
D
D
F
F
And
and
then,
and-
and
I
don't
expect
that
you
have
this
information-
I
think
that
the
fire
chief
would
need
to
find
on
it,
but
going
to
on
call
duty,
crews.
You
know
the
one
million
dollars
that's
proposed,
well
that
well,
that
may
solve
a
problem
of
getting
the
rig
out
the
door
with
a
greater
number
of
people
today.
F
Recruitment
of
new
part-time
firefighters,
I
would
guess
that
you
know,
since
we'll
be
asking
those
people
to
make
a
block
time
commitment
which
they
haven't
done
other
than
for
fighting
fires,
that
that
may
hurt
recruitment
and
hasten
the
transition
and
would
like
this.
You
know
hear
what
chief
seal
has
to
say
about
that
and
boil
it
into
that
projection.
That
we're
asking
for
here
does
does
what
I
say
seem
doable
by
the
next
council
meeting
and
did
you
have
any
questions
of
what
I'm
asking
for.
C
Sure,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council,
member
baloga,
actually
what
you're
asking
for
is
crystal
clear
and
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
think
you're
right
to
identify
the
fact
that
we
do
have
a
number
of
different
budgeting
dynamics
related
to
our
fire
department
operating
model
that
are
coming
together.
C
He
will
be
able
to
provide
a
much
more
informed
view.
I
will
tell
you,
from
my
perspective,
having
managed
a
couple
communities
where
we
have
paid
on
call
firefighters,
it's
a
little
bit
of
of
both
your
your
point
about
making
it
potentially
harder
to
recruit
or
retain,
because
of
the
expectation
of
working.
C
So,
based
on
the
experience,
I've
seen
that
the
the
duty
crew
model
doesn't
necessarily
have
a
a
negative
effect
on
recruit
or
on
retention
it.
It
might
on
the
recruitment
piece
to
know
that
there's
an
expectation
of
a
certain
number
of
hours
worked
in
a
given
month.
So
that's
some
information
that
we
can
share
coming
up
at
a
subsequent
meeting.
F
C
You,
mr
mayor
council,
members,
council,
member
baloga,
I
I
neglected
to
address
your
points
about
the
fire
pension,
which
are
good
points
as
well
and
allows
me
to
come
back
to
councilmember
lowman's
question
earlier
back
in
2007,
2008
and
2009.
The
city
didn't
make
any
contribution
to
the
fire
pension
just
because
of
the
way
the
market
was
performing,
and
then
in
2010
it
was
3.2
million
dollars
and
then
the
next
year
it
was
3.1
million
dollars,
and
then
it
was
1.8
and
1.9.
C
So
there
was
a
and
then
2.7
so
that
next
five
year
period,
this
is
the
volatility
we
were
talking
about
was.
Let
me
do
my
math
real
quickly,
0.110,
so
about
13
million
dollars
over
a
five
year
period
because
of
the
the
market
conditions,
and
that's
why
it
was
that
specific
reason
that
we
established
the
fire
pension
fund
was
to
avoid
that
type
of
volatility.
C
Your
point
council
member
beloga
about
the
new
firefighters
potentially
making
the
fire
pension
issue
more
challenging.
If
we
receive
the
safer
grant,
those
18
full-time
firefighters
will
have
their
pensions
provided
through
the
pera
police
and
fire
pension
fund.
That
is
not
an
obligation
that
we
will
have
through
this
managed
pension
fund.
It's
an
obligation
that
comes
through
the
wage
and
benefit
package
for
those
employees
that
we
contribute
to
the
pension
on
a
bi-weekly
basis.
F
So,
and
I
suspect
that
the
next
go
round
we're
going
to
have
the
spending
profile
by
department
so
that
we
can
see
you
know
who's
going
up
who's
going
down
who's,
staying
basically
flat.
That
type
of
thing,
because
I
think
the
community
will
be
quite
interested
in
public
safety
and
what's
happening
there
and
same
with
the
revenue
budget,
which
has
already
been
asked
for
and
addressed
so.
A
And
now
here
we
are
a
city
of
90
000
people
and
we're
faced
at
the
pro,
with
the
prospect
of
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
best,
provide
fire
protection
to
our
our
community
of
90,
000
people
and
we're
faced
with
this
as
a
as
not
only
a
policy
question,
but
a
budget
challenge
we're
going
to
have
to
to
deal
with
over
the
next.
You
know
the
next
generation
so
interesting
questions
sponsor
member
lowman.
A
E
E
You
know
we
got
dispatch,
there's
water,
that's
out
there
so,
and
you
talked
about
it
too,
and
I-
and
I
so
I
want
to
kind
of
this-
is
more
of
a
question
for
you
mayor
in
terms
of
you
know,
we've
got
this
paradigm
shift.
You
know,
we've
got
a
number
of
items
where
we've
done
it.
You
know
for
a
long
period
of
time.
E
E
What
my
question
is
for
you
is
that
you
know,
given
your
experience,
working
with
chamber
and
working
with
businesses,
we
just
saw
the
survey
that,
when
we
defer
these
infrastructural
things,
there's
an
impact
to
the
economy
and
the
ability
for
the
city
to
grow,
and
so
I
wonder,
if
you
would,
you
know
care
to
alpine
a
little
bit
about
this.
You
know
a
paradigm
shift
and
what
that
looks
like
from
a
taxpayer
standpoint,
not
only
for
the
businesses
and
also
for
residents
generally
as
we
you
know.
E
What's
the
you
know,
what's
the
new
model
that
we're
looking
to
try
to
aim
for,
especially
for
those
folks
who
are
economically
challenged
as
we
go
and
knock
on
those
doors?
How
are
we
going
to
make
sure
that
they're
included
in
this
this
picture
as
we
look
to
because
there
are
costs
you
know
by
by
deferring
and
not
doing
things,
and
so
that
that's
where
I'm
trying
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
kind
of
what
that
paradigm
shift
means.
E
A
I
mean
things
are,
are
changing
and
I
think
in
a
lot
of
ways,
changes
are
being
forced
upon
us
in,
for
example,
in
in
the
world
of
fire
protection.
It's
it's
being
forced
upon
us.
I
don't
think
it.
I
don't
believe
that
non-action
isn't
a
is
an
option
here.
We're
gonna
have
to
do
something
about
our
the
the
size
of
our
fire
departments,
the
size
of
our
fire
department
and
the
number
of
firefighters,
the
number
of
firefighters
on
a
rig
when
they
roll
out
of
the
station.
A
We
need
to
do
something
about
that
for
our
facilities.
It
becomes
a
question
of
how
attractive
does
this
community
want
to
be
to
people
as
they're
choosing
where
they
want
to
live,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
young
families,
looking
for
parks
or
playgrounds
or
activity
opportunities
for
their
kids
to
retirees
who
are
looking
for
a
place
to
live
all
these
different
questions
and
everything
in
between?
A
The
engagement
in
all
of
this
is
going
to
be
just
vitally
important,
and
I
would
I
would
look
to
you
I'd.
Look
to
you,
mr
fabrugi.
I
would
look
to
our
our
community
outreach
and
engagement.
I
look
to
all
of
us
to
try
and
figure
out
the
best
way
that
we
can
engage
the
community
in
this
discussion,
because
there
are
some
profound
shifts
ahead
of
us
that
that
we're
going
to
have
to
to
decide
on
and
figure
out
whether
or
not
we
want
to
make
those
changes
as
we
as
we
move
forward.
A
D
So
mayor,
council
members,
we
do
have
plans
in
october,
hopefully
we'd
like
to
do
another
virtual
event
and
an
in-person
event.
Hopefully,
but
we'll
be
working
with
the
council
on
and
on
what
you
would
like
the
community
to
engage
on
what
what
decisions
you're
looking
at
what
you
want
their
input
on.
So
we'll
work
with
you
to
find
out
what,
because
an
important
part
of
getting
the
community
engaged
and
getting
their
input
is
so
they
understand
how
we're
going
to
use
it.
D
So
if
they're
just
going
to
use
it
as
it's
like,
you
know,
in
a
consulting
type
of
role
or
how
they're
going
to
be
able
to
impact
decisions
will
have
to
be
made
very
clear
to
them
and
then
come
back
to
them
and
let
them
know
why
the
decisions
were
made.
So
as
we
work
through
the
budget,
if
there's
certain
things
that
the
council
is,
would
like
the
community's
input
on
we'll
want
to
identify
those
and
then
we'll
use
that
to
develop
those
events
and
we'll
also,
of
course,
have
that
information
out
on.
D
D
A
The
one,
the
strongest
part
I
think,
of
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
last
year
was
the
amount
of
information
produced
and
disseminated,
and
that
is
still
there
on
the
website
for
people
to
to
dig
through
if
they
want
to
dig
through
it-
and
I
think
we've
just
got
to
be
as
upfront
as
possible
and
provide
all
the
information
and
make
that
make
a
part
of
this.
This
part
of
the
discussion
part
of
the
conversation
as
we
head
out
into
the
community
and
engage
with
him
on
this
council.
Remember
carter.
B
C
C
I
I
think
it's
the
things
that
the
council
has
already
committed
to
that
are
consistent
with
the
strategic
plan
that
we've
been
working
under
already.
You
know
those
issues
where
we've
invested
in
equity
and
inclusion,
where
we've
invested
in
community
image,
where
we've
invested
in
community
amenities
and
we're.
Certainly
we've
invested
a
lot
in
renew.
You
know
focused
renewal
right
and
so
the
amount
of
effort
and
the
amount
of
resources
that
we're
putting
into
making
sure
that
areas
of
the
community
that
have
been
lacking.
C
Investment
over
a
number
of
years
are
seeing
the
council's
commitment,
that's
not
going
to
change,
and
I
don't
think
it
will
necessarily
change
after
next
year
either.
So,
yes,
the
process
will
be
informed
by
the
strategic
planning
and
it'll
be
informed
to
a
level
the
council
decides
is
appropriate.
F
D
Mayor
council,
members,
council,
member
beloga
what
we're
projecting
for
22
and
23
for
the
tax
levy
that
is
correct.
There
is
one
fund
for
golf
that
incorporated
both
duan
and
highland
and
over
many
years
highland
was
not
was
losing
money,
and
so
what
we
would
like
to
have
as
a
working
capital
balance
and
that
fund
is
not
where
it
is
where
it
should
be
right.
Now
it's
a
lot
lower
than
what
the
goal
is
for
that
fund.
D
Now
that
we're
just
looking
at
it
as
the
golf
fund,
basically
just
for
for
dwan,
we
will
bring
that
to
the
council
and
show
long
term
where
we,
how
that
looks-
and
I
don't
have
that
information
right
here,
but
I
can
get
that
information
to
you
and
we
will
bring
the
golf
fund
individually
to
the
council
to
look
at
that.
So
what's
here,
just
preliminary
will
still
need
to
be
decided
by
the
council
based
on
information.
We
have.
A
G
I
guess
I
I'm
curious
going
forward
things
like
the
funding
for
first
year
in
the
new
racial
equity
position,
expansion
of
the
existing
position,
the
work
that's
going
on
there,
the
compliance
stuff
as
council
member
nelson
asked
about
and
as
we
learned
that,
there's
a
little
bit
tbd
on
what
that
looks
like,
depending
on
state
a
lot
of
factors,
but
considering
that
that's
such
a
direct
outcome
of
some
very
clear
strategic
initiatives
put
forward
by
this
council.
I
think
that
falls
very
squarely
into
strategic
priorities.
G
I
would
look
at
that
not
so
much
as
including
those
costs
in
expanded
movement
of
funds
out
of
strategic
priorities
into
general
fund
off
offset
levy.
So
much
as
us
saying
to
the
community.
We
have
heard
you.
We
see
these
as
big
strategic
initiatives
and
out
of
the
funds
that
we
set
aside
for
strategic
priorities
as
a
council.
We're
going
to
fund
the
first
year
costs
for
this
to
get
the
kinks
worked
out
to
figure
out
what
it's
going
to
be
to
stand
this
all
up
and
then
once
it's
up
and
running
moving.
G
That
kind
of,
as
we
would
see
here
as
an
assumption
general
fun
to
begin
with.
So
obviously
that
stuff
would
live
in
the
general
fund,
but
I
would
see
viewing
that
as
it
lives
right
here,
343
000
some
odd
dollars.
I
I
would
see
that
as
just
being.
If
this
is
a
strategic
priority
of
the
council,
I
don't
think
that's
front,
running
tax
levy,
stabilization
I'd
say:
that's.
We
should
just
pay
those
first
year
costs
out
of
strategic
priorities
regardless,
so
just
just
something
to
chew.
On
a
little
bit
moving
forward.
C
Well,
mr
mayor,
I
have
a
piece
of
information
that
we
said:
we'd
try
to
get
by
the
end
of
the
meeting.
I
can
share
my
screen.
If
chris
would
make
me
a
presenter,
let's
see,
if
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
this
well,
councilmember
lowman's,
the
one
who
asked
for
it.
I
know
he
had
to
step
away
here
for
a
second,
so
well
at
least
have
it
on.
C
C
C
A
B
I
am.
I
would
suspect
that
that
need
for
compliance
is
only
going
to
increase
moving
forward,
that
that
we
are
it's
unlikely
that
we
will
will
say.
You
know
what
we're
going
to
step
back
a
little
bit
and
and
not
enforce
we're,
enforce
fewer
things
and
and
do
fewer
things
and
ask
staff
to
do
less
in
the
future.
So
I'm,
I
think,
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
really
important
piece
moving
forward
that
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
have
a
conversation
about
at
some
point.
A
A
C
C
This
is
her
last
council
meeting
before
she
goes
to
be
the
city
administrator
in
the
city
of
invergrove
heights,
and
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
just
publicly
acknowledge
the
work
that
chris
has
done
over
the
last
six
years
on
behalf
of
the
residents
and
businesses
and
visitors
of
bloomington
and
the
service
that
she
has
provided
to
her
co-workers
here
in
her
role.
First
as
the
human
resources
director
and
then
subsequently,
as
the
assistant
city
manager
for
the
last
three
years
and
her
service
to
the
city
council
as
well,
chris
is
a
consummate
professional.
C
A
Couldn't
agree
more
chris,
thank
you
so
very
much
for
the
past
six
years,
you've
been
fantastic
to
work
with
and
greatly
appreciate
it.
I
told
her
earlier
this
week
and
I
mentioned
it
to
jamie
also.
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
why
bloomington
made
it
through
the
pandemic
so
effectively
and
so
well,
is
because
that,
in
addition
to
jamie,
we
have
two
or
three
other
people
on
this
staff
who
would
be
outstanding.
A
City
managers
and
chris
was
certainly
one
of
them
and
her
work
just
guiding
us
helping
us
through
the
whole
pandemic,
taking
over
the
city,
clerk's
office
and
the
elections
right
before
the
2020
election
and
holding
that
all
together
and
having
a
go
off
without
a
hitch
in
an
enormous
term.
Turnout
election
in
2020,
I
think
is
just
was-
was
so
incredibly
impressive
and
and
so
very
thankful
for
that
you
did
a
great
job.
So
thank
you
so
very
much.
A
F
B
E
Member
loman,
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
thing
about
chris's
service
to
the
city
of
bloomington,
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
mayor.
Certainly
I
think
all
the
things
you
said
were
perfect,
but
I
wanted
to
just
say
how
much
I
appreciate
her
passion
for
the
work
that
you
did
here
in
the
city
for
the
residents
and
I
I
hope
that
you'll
carry
that
forward
in
the
initiatives
that
you're
passionate
about
here,
that
you'll
be
able
to
carry
those
same
passions
to
where
you
go.
E
A
B
Thank
you
mayor.
Well,
I
echo
the
sentiments
that
have
been
shared
already
chris
and,
as
I
shared
with
you
in
my
email,
I'm
definitely
gonna
miss
you,
but
also
a
huge
congratulations.
I
mean
it's
really
really
significant
and
obviously
well
deserved,
and
so
thank
you
and
then
the
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
ask
for
or
see.
If
we
could,
I
was
gonna
see
if
we
could
have
a
presentation
on
the
census
results
for
bloomington.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council
member
carter.
That's
a
good
idea.
We
didn't
have
anybody
who
was
census
man
running
around
this
community.
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
the
article
in
the
star
tribune
over
the
weekend
as
a
elected
official
in
a
northern
st
paul
suburb,
that
donned
a
costume,
a
census,
man
trying
to
drive
his
community
to
a
complete
count,
but
despite
having
a
lack
of
a
superhero
running
around
here,
we
actually
achieved
pretty
great
things.