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Bloomington City Council / HRA Concurrent Meeting
A
A
A
H
A
A
I
do
want
to
recognize
in
addition
to
our
our
hra
members
and
our
city
council
members
here
this
evening.
I
know
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
attention
and
interest
from
our
state
and
and
hennepin
county
commissioners
and
molly
cummings
from
so
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
like
to
say
hello
to
and
welcome
also,
I
I
know
that
our
state
senators,
melissa,
wiklendt
and
melissa
franzen
were
planning
on
being
here,
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
on
yet,
but
I
know
that
they
are
planning
to
be
here.
A
All
of
our
state
representatives
representative,
mike
howard,
representative,
andrew
carlson
and
representative
steve
elkins,
are
joining
us
this
evening,
hennepin
county
commissioner
debbie
cattell
is
with
us
and
our
metro,
metropolitan
council
representative
molly
cummings
former
mayor
of
hopkins
good
evening,
and
welcome.
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us.
This
is
an
important
discussion
and
obviously
it
goes
beyond
just
the
city
boundaries,
the
hra.
A
A
We
have
a
lengthy
discussion
ahead
of
us
this
evening,
a
a
good
sized
powerpoint
deck
that
we're
going
to
go
through
and,
as
I
said,
it's
going
to
be
mostly
all
things
housing
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
which
I'm
looking
forward
to
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
our
interim
community
development,
director,
heather
worthington
she's,
going
to
kick
us
off
and
lead
us
into
our
discussion
this
evening
good
evening.
Heather
welcome.
Thank
you.
D
D
This
is
the
first
of
two
workshops
that
we
would
like
to
have
with
the
city,
council
and
hra
for
the
purpose
of
holistically,
examining
the
state
of
housing
in
bloomington.
This
includes
data
policy.
Recommendations
include
including
revisions
to
existing
ordinances
and
policies,
as
well
as
new
policies
and
ordinances
program,
evaluation
and
recommendations,
and
in
our
second
session
in
september,.
D
I
want
to
particularly
thank
our
staff
in
community
development
who
play
an
instrumental
role
in
the
construction
and
preservation
of
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
Every
day,
staff
from
our
housing
and
redevelopment
authority,
port
authority
planning
and
assessing
building
inspections
and
environmental
health
are
all
involved
on
a
day-to-day
basis
in
ensuring
that
our
residents
have
access
to
safe
and
affordable
housing.
The
work
that
you
do
as
policy
makers
with
them
is
fundamental
to
that
success.
D
The
team
that
you
have
built
here
in
bloomington
is
producing
exciting
results
and,
with
your
continued
partnership,
the
future
is
bright
for
housing
here
in
bloomington.
Finally,
I
in
the
last
six
months,
we
have
experienced
a
set
of
impacts
on
this
community
that
few
could
have
predicted.
Prior
to
early
march.
This
team
has
been
able
to
assign
resources
to
our
community
partners
to
provide
rental
assistance
and
social
services
to
our
residents,
who
are
facing
housing
displacement
and
eviction.
D
We've
established
a
small
business
loan
program
to
assist
businesses
impacted
by
coven
19,
and
we
remain
concerned
about
the
impact
of
unemployment
and
underemployment
as
we
move
into
the
school
year,
this
fall
while
we
have
navigated
the
past
several
months.
More
challenges
will
present
themselves.
Much
of
the
policy
work
we
discussed
tonight
can
help
us
to
positively
impact
the
challenges
ahead
of
us.
D
Thank
you
for
participating
tonight,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
mike
palermo
and
he
is
going
to
walk
us
through
some
of
the
data
that
will
help
to
provide
a
foundation
in
the
work
ahead
and
we
have
built
in
breaks
in
this
presentation
for
discussion
and
questions
and,
if
possible,
we
would
ask
you
to
hold
your
questions
till
the
break
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
we're
able
to
cover
what
will
be
a
lot
of
information
tonight.
So,
thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
mike.
Do
you
want
to
begin.
A
Good
evening,
mr
palermo,
thank
you
much
for
being
here
and
council
and
commission
members.
If
you
could,
if
you
could
hold
your
questions,
we,
as
ms
worthington
said,
we're
going
to
get
to
natural
break
points
and
we'll
be
able
to
gather
up
all
the
questions
and
have
the
discussion
then.
So,
mr
palermo,
please
lead
us
away.
H
So
all
things
housing
we've
got
quite
a
bit
to
talk
through
tonight,
and
so
you
can
see
our
agenda
for
tonight
and
next
study
session
in
september.
We'll
continue
the
discussion
by
talking
about
noaa
funding,
priorities
and
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
but
tonight
we've
kind
of
broke
down
schedule.
Most
of
our
items
are
five
to
ten
minutes,
but
a
longer
discussion
for
the
opportunity,
housing
or
it
is
kind
of
the
the
key
component
we
want
to
be
discussing.
H
H
So
I
will
start
with
some
data.
This
is
to
provide
a
context
for
the
discussion.
We've
been
working
on
collecting
lots
of
different
data
points
related
to
housing,
we're
working
on
a
housing
indicator
report
that
will
kind
of
continually
update
annually
to
kind
of
track
trends,
but
we
wanted
to
pull
out
some
key
components
of
that
report.
There's
a
wide
variety
of
data
that
we
can
discuss,
but
we
thought
these
jumped
out
to
us
and
really
provide
some
context
so
who
lives
in
bloomington.
H
To
start,
we
have
about
90
000
residents,
38
000,
households
about
a
third
of
that
is
renter
occupied.
While
two-thirds
is
owner
occupied
about
a
quarter
of
our
population
owns
their
house
without
a
mortgage,
our
average
household
size
has
decreased
from
3.75
in
1970
to
just
2.36
today,
so
most
of
our
households
are
two-person
households.
H
Our
foreign-born
population
has
grown
from
9
500
to
13
000
from
2010
to
2018..
This
is
a
30
36
increase
and
it's
it's.
A
large
majority
of
our
growth
in
the
last
10
years
have
been
foreign
born.
It's
not
to
say
it
was
bypass
population
or
black
indigenous
people
of
color
population,
but
they
are
diverse
populations
that
have
been
growing
in
bloomington.
H
But
when
you
look
at
owner
versus
renter
overwhelmingly
our
owner
population
90
is
white
non-hispanic,
whereas
our
renter
population
sees
the
majority
of
that
minority
population
looking
at
it.
Another
way.
Looking
at
our
black
population,
90
of
our
black
population
live
in
rental
units
and
only
ten
percent
are
homeowners.
H
H
Looking
at
our
age,
we
tend
to
feel
a
little
bit
older
than
our
our
comparative
cities
throughout
the
region.
Bloomington
has
about
20
senior
population,
which
is
on
par
with
edina
and
minnetonka,
but
you
can
see
brooklyn
park
and
lakeville
and
shakopee
and
woodbury
tend
to
have
a
lot
more
population
under
18
than
we
do.
We
have
about
19
under
18.,
and
then,
where
are
those
children
living?
Are
we
tend
to
think
of
families
living
in
owner
occupied
units
or
our
single
family
homes,
but
it's
they're
throughout
the
community
they're
in
renter
and
owner
25.
H
Occupied
our
median
income
has
been
lagging
in
recent
years.
In
1990
we
were
above
hennepin
county
and
the
seven
county
metro
and
in
2000
we
were
about
even
and
then
starting
in
2010.
We
started
to
lag
a
little
bit.
We
look
and
we're
keeping
up
with
henneman
county
and
the
seven
county
metro,
but
it's
still
falling
behind
one
thing
to
point
out
here
that
we
want
to
kind
of
bring
up
later,
we'll
talk
about
area
median
income.
This
is
a
little
bit
different
than
area
median
income.
H
The
hud
creates
the
area
median
income
for
the
region,
and
it
has
103
400
annual
income,
but
they
create
that
off
of
family
income,
so
family
income,
a
family
of
four
they
pull
out
specifically
so
that
tends
to
be
higher.
Families
tend
to
make
more
and
a
family
of
four
tends
to
make
more.
So
they
pull
that
out,
come
up
with
that
medium
and
then
they
adjust
formulaic
formulated
deeply
to
come
up
with
rents.
Even
then,
it's
still
a
formula
where
they
are
using
old
data
and
adjusting
to
2020.
H
Looking
at
our
average
rent,
bloomington
is
pretty
on
par
with
the
twin
cities,
metro
as
a
whole,
we're
pretty
much
about
average
for
studio,
one-bedroom,
two-bedroom
three-bedroom.
You
can
see
we're
only
about
fifty
dollars
a
month
less
than
the
twin
cities
as
a
whole,
and
our
vacancy
is
a
little
bit
lower
at
2.4.
That's
pretty
low.
Your
target,
usually
is
about
five
or
six
percent
is
a
healthy
vacancy
rate.
So
the
twin
cities
on
the
whole
is
low
and
bloomington's
even
lower.
H
So
how
much
does
it
really
cost
to
rent
one
of
these
units?
If
you
take
those
average
average
per
month,
cost
and
break
it
down
to
a
yearly
income?
30
of
your
income
is
generally
accepted
for
housing,
so
afford
one
of
our
one
bedrooms.
You
would
be
making
45
480
a
year
or
21
almost
22
dollars
an
hour.
A
two
bedroom
is
one
thousand.
Would
you
have
to
have
an
income
of
about
fifty
six
thousand
a
year
or
twenty
seven
dollars
an
hour
and
a
two
bedroom
is
higher
than
our
median
renter
income?
H
H
This
transitions
into
our.
What
are
what
we
call
housing
cost
burden.
So
it's
how
these
hospitals
is,
like
I
said
generally
accepted
30
of
your
income,
should
could
go
to
housing
costs.
Anything
over
that
is
generally
considered.
Housing
cost
burden
in
large
metros.
It
tends
to
be
closer
to
40
percent,
but
the
data
really
is
available
in
30
or
so
and
in
some
cases
35
of
household
income.
But
you
can
see
here
there's
a
stark
difference
between
owner
and
renter
occupied,
both
cases
if
you're
making
less
than
twenty
thousand
dollars
annually
about.
H
Ninety
percent
of
people
are
going
to
be
house,
housing
cost
burdens,
but
that
stay
is
elevated
even
up
to
35
000
annually.
Still
90
of
our
renter
population
is
housing,
cost
burden,
and
then
it
goes
down
a
little
bit
up
to
50
thousand
and
at
fifth
over
fifty
thousand
or
seventy
five
thousand.
It
decreases
as
you
would
expect,
but
you
can
see
the
difference
here
in
just
total
households
that
are
cost
burden.
Our
owner
population
is
about
19.4,
which
makes
sense
our
owner
population.
H
Their
median
income
is
about
90
000,
whereas
our
renter
population,
our
median
income,
is
only
49
000.,
so
43
of
our
renter
population
is
considered
a
house
burden.
Overall,
the
city
is
about
27,
which
is
not
terrible,
but
something
that
we
are
looking
to
address.
Did
you
text
him
with
that?
I
will
turn
it
over
to
sherry,
shellquist,
so
kind
of
sum
up
some
of
the
housing
data
we
have
and
take
it
from
there.
E
Tonight,
thank
you,
mayor
boce,
chair
thorson,
council
members,
commissioners
and
additional
officials.
Thank
you
mike
for
bringing
all
that
data
together
so
quickly
when
we
think
of
the
housing
data
in
bloomington.
We
also
want
to
present
it
in
a
way
that
we
can
track
how
we're
doing
each
year
over
year.
A
A
I
I
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council,
member
coulter.
What
this
line
of
first
refers
to
are
thank
you.
This
was
was
in
the
notes
and
in
in
moving
quickly.
I
think
it's
important
that
I
emphasize
that
the
885
includes
all
the
subsidized
in
rent
restricted
units
in
the
city,
so
previously
area,
80
area,
median
income
was
considered
affordable
and
our
rent
restricted
units,
but
I
additionally
broke
out
how
many
we
we
know
exists
at
the
30,
50
and
60
ami.
H
Yeah
that's
correct,
so
those
885
are
kind
of
those
subsidized
or
rent
restricted
units,
whereas
those
other
numbers
are
those
additional
units.
We
have
a
database
that
we
have
that
has
rents
for
most
of
the
properties
in
bloomington.
So
we
have
a
good
estimate
of
what
those
numbers
are
at
30,
50
and
60
ami.
We
can
use
that
information
to
come
up
with
what
those
how
many
units
we
have.
E
Additionally,
the
rental
units
includes
license
units,
but
it
does
not
include
449
units
that
are
provided
through
group
homes
and
it's
important
to
note
as
well
that
when
we're
looking
in
the
future
as
we
hopefully
don't
track
very
many.
But
if
we
do
end
up
tracking
noaa
units
that
are
lost
to
substantial
conversion,
it's
easy
for
us
to
determine
when
there's
a
big
jump
in
rent.
But
if
it's
a
minor
increase,
it
may
tip
a
noaa
project
slightly
over
60
ami
and
then
in
six
or
12
months.
E
B
E
H
B
H
I
don't
have
it
readily
available,
but
we
haven't
seen
a
huge
shift
in
the
last
20
years.
It's
obviously
been
picking
up
more
renters
as
we
are
a
built
out
community,
and
so
that
number
is
just
going
to
continue
to
increase.
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but
that
has
it's
been
about
a
third
renter,
like
I
said
it's
just
been
slowly
kind
of
ticking
up,
we're
obviously
in
a
housing,
a
rental
housing
boom.
H
H
B
E
I
can
I
can
answer
that
question
as
well.
This
comes
from
the
minnesota
housing
partnership,
it's
a
statewide
advocacy
group
and
every
year
they
every
other
year.
They
produce
a
house
rental
housing
snapshot
compared
to
home,
to
ownership
for
cities
and
on
the
opposite
years.
They
produce
them
by
legislative
districts.
E
A
J
Say
mayor:
yes,
this
is
called
number
one.
You
probably
didn't
see
my
hand
there.
So
just
one
just
two
quick
questions
for
you.
So
when
we're
looking
at
rental
units,
do
we
know
how
many
of
those
folks
that
are
renting
in
bloomington
transition
from
being
rental
into
a
home
ownership
or
some
type
of
ownership,
property.
H
E
J
And
then,
secondarily
of
special
interest
to
me
when
we
put
together
this
report,
will
there
be
any
parts
of
this
report
that
will
have
anything
to
do
with
how
those
properties
themselves
are
sustainable?
Those
units,
the
rental
units,
are
sustainable
energy
efficient?
Will
there
be
any
sections
about
that
in
the
report.
E
Councilmember,
since
you
asked
there
will
be,
I
know,
for
there
are
new.
You
know
for
the
new
construction,
especially
the
new
construction
that
receives
funding
from
minnesota
housing,
there's
a
requirement
to
meet
the
minnesota
overlay
to
the
green
communities
criteria
that
does
include
sustainability
and
energy
efficiency.
E
E
E
E
C
E
A
Council
other
questions,
if
not,
I
have
a
question,
ms
showquist,
if
you
could
just
help
me
help
clarify
some
things
for
me,
some
of
the
numbers
here
we're
looking
at
so
as
we
looked
at
on
page
14,
we
talked
about
a
number
of
affordable
units
in
bold.
It
was
885
and
then
the
discussion
that
council
member
colter
brought
up
about
12
at
30
percent,
1008
to
50
and
so
on.
So
those
numbers
were
a
little
different
and
then,
if
you
go
to
page
16,
it
talks
about
under
goals.
A
E
E
The
market
rate
goal
is
determined,
however,
and
so
the
842
is
the
total
met
council-based
goal
to
meet
our
affordable
housing
need
in
in
bloomington
and
market
rate,
so
the
subtotals
are
what
we
have
actually
actually
have
in
the
pipeline.
That's
public
and
real
lindell
flats,
village
club
penn
place
rosa
and
the
quinn
have
all
been
approved
by
the
city
council
and
the
hra
or
the
port,
and
these
are
numbers
that
are
in
development
agreements.
You
know,
village
club,
I
think,
is
the
only
one.
E
That's
that's
broken
ground
and
is
under
construction,
but
that
is
the
opportunity
housing
units.
When
I
talk
about
the
project
pipeline
next,
we'll
also
be
talking
about
other,
affordable
housing
developments
that
exist
pre-opportunity
housing.
You
know
in
the
pa
in
the
recent
past
year
or
two
that
are
also
contributing
to
that
number.
F
Thank
you,
and,
and
and
chair
thorson,
both
of
you,
I'm
wondering
to
this
point
with
the
data
that
was
given
in
tables
and
whatnot
at
the
very
beginning,
and
the
recent
tables
that
we've
been
looking
at
here
in
the
discussion
is
it?
Is
it
safe
to
say
that
we
have
our
most
extreme
need
for
housing
in
this
city?
F
E
A
I
will
just
ask
one
more
and
it
doesn't
need
to
be
answered
tonight,
but
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
the
comparison.
We're
always
comparing
ourselves
with
other
cities,
and
I
would
like
to
see
where
our
our
neighbors
here
in
the
southwest
metro
stand
regarding
what
their
2030
met.
Council
goals
are
and
what
their
subtotals
are
on.
All
these
categories
as
well,
is
that
I'm,
assuming
that's
possible
to
put
those
numbers
together.
E
E
That
would
choose
to
take
the
payment
in
lieu
and
do
no
affordability,
while
that
did
happen
at
american
square
with
ardor
and
the
quinn.
The
quinn
is
phase
2
and
is
providing
86,
affordable
units
that
you
know
for
the
quinn
and
rosa
those
very
likely
would
not
have
been
produced
is
affordable.
Had
it
not
been
for
the
ordinance
where
village
club
penn
place
lindale
flats,
those
are
affordable,
housing
developers.
E
Those
units
you
know
would
have
been
affordable
without
the
ordnance.
So
you
know
I
may
not
be
directly
answer
responding
to
your
question.
I'm
I'm
searching
a
bit,
but
we
we
did
have
a
significant
number
of
projects
come
in.
Wanting
to
you
know,
meet
the
ordinance
and
take
on
some
affordability
other
than
that
our
market
rate
goals
for
housing.
H
Yeah
I'll
just
jump
in
and
say
that
to
kind
of
clarify
that
842
number
that's
based
on
our
projected
population
growth,
they
they
allocate
that,
based
on
what
the
council
expects
their
population
growth
will
be.
So
those
are
new
units
that
we
need
to
obtain
that
mix
yeah.
It's
kind
of
what
just
happened
to
come
in
as
sherry
explained.
Sometimes
we
got
some
100
affordable
projects
which
kind
of
unique
and
we
yeah
it's
kind
of
just
what
developers
have
come
forth
with.
G
G
E
Council,
member
baloga,
yes,
and
we
are
prepared
to
have
a
full
tip
analysis
and
discussion
at
the
next
study
session
meeting
in
september.
It's
you
know,
it's.
We
automatically
think
of
financing
and
priorities
when
we're
looking
at
at
our
opportunity,
housing
goals
and
performance,
but
we
are,
we
did
decide
that
to
tonight
is
most
things:
housing,
not
all
things
housing
and
we
will
provide
that
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
tax,
increment
financing
and
priorities
with
funding
that
discussion,
as
well
as
the
noaa
discussion
will
happen
in
at
the
september
study
session.
E
G
H
Councilmember
I'll
just
jump
in
and
say
these
are
those
gold
targets
are
based
on
our
forecast
and
those
forecasts
are
based
in
our
land
capacity
so
that
that
discussion,
that
exercise
has
been
completed.
That
was
part
of
the
comp
plan
and
that
that
is
how
that
came
to
be
so.
We
we
have
the
capacity
to
for
those
units
to
increase
so
and
that's
how
it's
kind
of
a
backwards
approach.
That's
how
that
target
is
created
through
that.
G
G
H
H
E
A
B
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
have
a
couple
quick
follow-ups
to
council
member
beloga's
questions
first
on
this
chart
am
I
to
understand.
I
didn't
realize
this
at
first,
but
it
does
not
include
the
ardor,
which
was
a
fully
market
rate
project
of
about
200
250
units
that
they
did.
The
payment
in
lieu
of.
Is
that
accurate?
Would
that
add
to
this
market
rate
number.
E
B
E
E
B
E
B
Okay,
the
last
question
I
have
is
just
trying
to
get
my
head
around
conceptually.
Our
ordinance
says
something
about
nine
percent,
affordable
units,
and
yet
our
goal
is
to
have
about
a
third
affordable
units
and
it
seems
like
we're
outperforming
that
goal,
building
even
more
affordable
units
than
that
am
I
understanding
those
numbers
correctly
and
how
do
I
correlate
the
nine
percent
with
what
we're
actually
building.
E
That
is,
that
is
a
good
question
and
a
bit
complex,
the
nine
percent
was
bait,
was
determined
based
on
a
economic
impact
study
from
bay
area
that
was
done
by
bay
area
economics
and
the
met
council
study
is
done
by
popul.
You
know,
among
other
things,
may
be
oversimplifying
population
growth,
growth
and
anticipated
need
so
they're
different,
they're,
different
perspectives,
and
so
they
result
in
in
different
amounts.
E
B
E
E
E
The
family,
422
units
40,
affordable
at
80
ami,
the
108
place
is
42,
affordable
at
60
ami
hayden
grove
senior
living
is
166
senior
units
with
34
units,
affordable
at
50
ami
and
then
also
oops,
the
district
which
has
248
units.
It's
it's
under
construction.
It's
it's
moving
along
well
and
that's
50
units
at
50
ami.
E
We,
this
is
an
estimate
of
of
what
we
think
will
come
forward
in
the
next
two
to
three
years.
We're
really
focused
on
our
transportation
and
commercial
corridors
per
the
stantec
study,
lindale
avenue
you
know
we're
still
focused
on
pen
and
american,
so
we
project
that,
despite
the
pandemic,
we
will
keep
the
momentum
going
to
bring
more
affordable
and
market
rate
rental
housing
and
also
spur
additional
investment
in
the
city.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
chair
and
marin
and
for
all
the
information
that's
been
presented
tonight,
just
real
quickly
and
even
anecdotally.
I'm
curious,
it
looks
like
the
affordable
components,
are
largely
concentrated
kind
of
pen
american
area
and
east
in
the
community
and
considering
our
goal
to
rejuvenate
commercial
nodes
and
neighborhoods
across
the
city.
Do
we
know
why
that
concentration
is?
Is
it
kind
of
lack
of
pooled
funding
like
we
get
from
the
gateway
district
out
of
tiff
or
kind
of
fewer
high-density
commercial
nodes?
B
B
C
C
Where
we're
you
know,
evenly
distributing
affordable
units
across
our
city,
and
I
understand
that
there
are
different
incentives
in
place
that
make
it
easier
to
cr
to
develop
affordable
units
in
certain
parts
of
the
city,
but
I
think
it's
really
really
important
and
again,
I
know
it's
in
the
policy
as
a
stated
priority
to
make
sure
that
we
are
dispersing
these
units
across
our
city,
and
I
even
think
about
it.
I
mean
for
me
I'm
thinking
about
this
from
a
racial
equity
perspective.
C
F
Thank
you
just
an
observation.
The
I
believe,
what's
going
on
here
is
that
the
eastern
part
of
the
city
was
developed
earlier
generally
speaking,
and
so
the
buildings
are
older
and
lend
themselves
more
toward
hra
kinds
of
activity,
and
but
I
do
appreciate
both
the
questions
and
comments
from
council
member
martin
and
carter,
because
I
think
we
need
to
be
looking
at
this
down
the
road
and
and
be
concerned
about
the
kinds
of
things
that,
for
example,
council
member
carter
mentioned.
E
It's
important
to
note
that
substantial
flexibility
and
incentives
are
offered
to
developers
to
help
support
compliance
with
the
ordinance
requirements,
but
also
to
help
us
spur
that
investment
under
the
ordinance
we're
required
to
provide
an
annual
report
to
the
council
by
october
1st.
So
this
study
session
the
following
study
session
and
our
are
the
precursors
to
that
report.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
You
can
see
that
density
and
and
floor
area
ratio.
Bonus
were
requested
and
approved,
as
well
as
every
single
project
had
a
parking
stall
reduction
and
lindale
flats
and
village
club.
Both
100
percent,
affordable,
requested
in
closed
parking
space
conversion,
there's
been
some
requests
for
minimum
unit,
size
reduction,
alternative
exteriors
material
allowance
and
then
every
single
project
requested
storage,
space
reduction,
the
process
and
fee
incentives.
E
The
financial
incentives
across
the
board
every
project
came
in
asking
for
tiff
and
lindell
flats
in
order
to
access
state
bonding
for
tax
credits.
We
have
shifted
that
away
from
tiff
into
a
land
right
down,
and
this
is
something
that
will
be
important
to
track
moving
forward
in
light
of
our
tif
capacity
in
general.
E
E
The
way
that
the
low
income
housing
tax
credit
program
works
it
it
works
best
in
bloomington,
the
way
it's
scoring
currently
to
have
a
100
percent,
affordable
project
similar
to
108
place
or
lindell
flats.
That's
what's
proposed
for
the
quinn,
and
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
in
the
phasing
the
you
know.
The
more
luxury
market
rate
units
at
the
ardor
compared
to
the
100,
affordable
development
coming
next
raised
questions
on
both
integration
and
and
dispersion.
E
Similarly,
for
noaa
additions,
just
clarifying
that
an
existing
noaa
property
and
a
new
development
property
may
both
qualify
for
the
flexibility
of
the
incentives
of
the
ordinance
as
long
as
the
affordability
is
maintained
across
the
site
as
a
whole
and
not
just
for
the
new
units
for
payment
in
lieu.
The
current
rate
of
9.60
was
set
by
that
impact
economic
impact
study
and
we
believe
that
needs
to
be
updated
every
three
to
five
years
to
ensure
the
city
is
capturing
all
eligible
costs.
E
The
payment
in
lieu
timeline
also
allows
options
for
a
payment
either
prior
to
permit
or
prior
to
certificate
of
occupancy
staff
prefers
to
have
that
payment.
Lo
in
lieu
deposited
in
the
trust
fund
before
the
project
proceeds,
however,
in
the
cases
that
funds
are
needed
for
construction,
we'd
be
willing
to
continue
to
the
certificate
certificate
of
occupancy
date
as
long
as
there's
a
firm
development
agreement
in
place.
E
We
have
had
several
properties
and
and
many
developers
interested
in
several
properties
near
80th
and
old
cedar,
queen
and
american
98th
and
nicolet,
where
we've
had
projects
that
the
density
necessary
to
to
produce
affordable
housing
on
those
sites
far
exceeds
what
we,
what
our
minimum
site
requirements
are.
So
we're
working
with
planning
to
bring
more
definition
to
this,
but
this
will
be
a
proposed
new
addition
to
the
ordinance
height
bonus
staff
is
supportive
of
council
approval
of
a
greater
height
bonus
beyond
the
current
limit
to
one
story
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
E
Taking
into
the
consideration
on
surrounding
property,
obviously
there
are
certain
areas,
perhaps
like
at
80th
and
old
cedar,
where
it
really
makes
sense
to
go
up
an
additional
level
or
two
to
create
more
affordable
housing,
but
it
might
not
make
sense
in
an
area
that's
more
adjacent
to
single-family
housing
parking
parking
has
been.
You
know,
one
of
the
three
main
things
in
the
ordnance
that
that
deviations
have
been
requested
for
the
ordinance
already
allows
for
significant
parking
reduction
and
staff
is,
is
recommending
going
beyond
that.
E
E
E
Also,
the
ordinance
allows
for
reduction
in
close
parking
and
staff
recommends
no
longer
requiring
the
carport
covering
option,
given
the
council's
action
on
lindale
flats
and
also
when
we're
looking
at
affordability
compared
to
costs
of
snow
removal,
tenant
safety,
etc.
That's
that's
a
recommendation
that
that
that
we
would
like
to
see
move
forward.
E
E
They
know
who
will
be
living
in
their
developments
and
what
storage
the
tenants
that
they
are
building
for
will
need
they.
I
have
heard
anywhere
from
zero
storage
that
units
are
being
designed
to
provide
in-unit
storage,
that's
a
better
option
and
a
more
secure
option
or
up
to
25
percent
of
what
bloomington
requires.
E
It
is
more
in
line
what
the
developers
find
is
the
market
need
or
request,
and
so
this
is
something
that's
been
a
strong
message
from
the
development
community
so
far
fee
deferrals.
We
just
want
to
add
the
language
to
clarify
that
we're
able
to
there's
a
typo
and
affordable
we're
able
to
fund
the
fee
deferrals
if,
if
we
have
funds
set
aside
through
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
resources,
another
brand
new
topic
is
the
consideration
of
allowing
accessory
dwelling
units.
E
E
Flexibility
is
the
spirit
of
the
ordinance
is
something
that
I
and
hear
say
on
pretty
much
a
daily
basis
since
joining
the
city,
and
we
recommend
that
should
a
developer
seek
approval
of
a
combination
of
other
meas
measures.
That
would
increase
the
number
of
units
but
deviate
from
the
exact
requirements
outlined
by
the
ordinance
that
such
a
plan
be
considered
for
approval
by
the
city
council.
E
This
plan
becomes
an
exhibit
to
to
the
development
agreement
and
a
legally
binding
document,
and
you
know
it's
a
process,
not
an
ordinance
change,
but
we're
we're
working
to
ensure
that
those
are
updated
at
the
financial
closing
as
well.
In
case
they
have
changed
slightly
since
being
approved
at
the
city
level.
E
You
know
we
put
this
list
together
in
community
development,
with
the
hra,
the
port
planning
and
city
legal,
and
so
with
with
input
from
developers,
funders
and
community
members.
We
will
be
having
focus
groups
with
the
three
of
those:
the
community
members,
government
officials,
philanthropic
funders,
other
government
funders
and
the
developers
between
now
and
when
we
come
back
to
the
hra
or
the
city
council.
More
formally.
So
with
that
said,
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Well,
that
was
a
lot
and
my
suggestion
might
be
ms
showquist
if
we
could,
if
we
could
maybe
hit
rewind
here
and
maybe
go
back
to
page
25
of
your
of
your
presentation
and
just
kind
of
step
through
it.
Once
again,
I
see
council
member
colter
with
a
question,
but
maybe
if
we
could
go
topic
by
topic
and
get
people
to
if
anything
jumps
out
on
them
that
we
can,
we
could
discuss
those
specifically
and
because,
as
I
said,
there
was
a
lot
there
and
I
I
don't
want
to.
A
A
We
get
to
page
26,
I
think
the
the
opportunity
housing
ordinance
goals.
I
know
that
council
member
carter
brought
up
a
few
suggestions,
a
few
pieces
of
this.
If
you
could
all
just
kind
of
go
to
go
back
to
page
26,
and
I
think
it's
one
more
page
there,
michelle
quist,
if
you
could
any
discussion
topics
on
on
page
26,
the
opportunity,
housing,
ordinance
goals.
J
There
really
is
a
need
for
us
to
in
a
sense-
and
maybe
we
have
it
here,
but
really
call
out
that
30
ami
in
that
50
percent
ami.
Certainly
the
we've
seen
those
strategies.
It
seems
that
staff
is
trying
to
find
ways
in
which
to
kind
of
do
that,
but
maybe
it
makes
some
sense
to
to
kind
of
lay
that
out
here,
so
that
it
makes
a
little
easier
for
us
to
kind
of
really
focus
in
on
that.
A
A
F
F
A
C
Thank
you
mayor,
so
my
my
comment
is
along
the
same
lines
that
commissioner
olsen
just
brought
up.
So
I
appreciate
that
our
conversation
tonight
is
really
focused
on
the
opportunity,
housing,
ordinance
goals
and
policy,
and
I
do
think-
and
maybe
this
exists-
and
I'm
not
aware
of
it
at
this
point,
but
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
almost
you
know
a
broader
set
of
goals
or
you
know,
a
strategic
plan
that
outlines
metrics
more
broadly.
C
So,
for
example,
you
know
I'm
really
interested
in
having
conversations
and
maybe
not
this
year,
maybe
next
year,
but
eventually
having
conversations
around.
You
know
the
the
gap
in
homeownership
rates
between
black
and
white
residents,
and
so
there
are
things
kind
of
broader
issues
as
it
relates
to
housing
and
the
ability
for
people
to
like
build
wealth
and,
and
things
like
that-
that
I
think
would
be
really
helpful
to
have.
B
Okay,
yeah,
it
would
just
be
great
kind
of
nodding
to
what
I
was
asking
about
previously
to
see
kind
of
an
acknowledgement
of
workforce
housing
as
a
revitalization
tool,
either
for
kind
of
our
commercial
nodes
or
a
lot
of
our
neighborhoods.
I
understand
that
the
kind
of
development
infrastructure
we
have
in
place
now
the
gateway
district
in
south
loop
are
obviously
geographically
fixed,
but
considering
that
there's
a
lot
of
research
and
a
lot
of
time
that
goes
into
deploying
things
like
this.
B
B
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor,
I'd
just
like
to
pick
up
on
the
comment
by
councilmember
carter.
I
agree
with
her
completely
about
taking
a
look
at
the
ownership
gap
and
I
would
encourage
us
to
do
that
sooner
rather
than
later,
one
of
the
things
about
the
built
environment,
whether
it's
housing
or
commercial,
whatever
is
it,
hopefully
lasts
a
very
long
time
and
the
decisions
we're
making
today
and
the
more
projects
we
have
going
forward.
B
Locks
in
whatever
structural
issues
exist
today,
for
you
know,
40
50,
60
70
years
and
sooner
we
can
take
a
look
at
those
issues,
the
better,
in
my
opinion,
to
help
for
for
multiple
generations
going
into
the
future.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
express
the
urgency
of
that
equity
issue
for
this
ordinance.
B
I'd
also
just
like
to
emphasize
that
I
do
think
that
the
market
rate
housing
is
a
component
of
the
affordable
housing
discussion
one.
You
know
we
have
goals
regarding
dispersion
within
our
communities.
We
have
goals
regarding
integration
so
that
we
avoid
concentrated
areas
of
poverty
because
of
past
development
patterns
and
various
trends
we
have.
We
already
have
concentrated
areas
of
poverty
within
our
community,
and
I
want
to
just
make
sure
whatever
we're
doing
from
an
ordinance
level,
we
don't
lock
those
into
the
future.
B
We
do
whatever
we
can
to
help
address
and
alleviate
those
and-
and
you
know,
candidly,
the
more
housing
we
built,
even
if
it's
market
rate,
the
less
pressure
that
puts
to
drive
up
the
price
of
housing
that
isn't
affordable
for
people
already.
So
just
my
couple
of
thoughts
on
these
goals
is,
I
think
we
need
to
really
elevate
that
equity
issue.
J
You
know
we
mentioned
that
in
the
numbers
earlier
that
there
are
demographics,
that
are
that
we're
looking
at
this,
and
so
that's
why
I,
when
I
look
at
this
particular
ordinance,
you
know
I
I
can't
you,
you
can't
just
take
things
and
sit
them
in
silos.
I
think
you've
got
to
look
at
everything
in
total,
so
I
would
encourage
us
from
a
policy
perspective,
one
to
be
really
explicit
about
how
we
want
to
look
at
our
inclu
inclusion
and
equity
piece.
J
We
said
that
we
were
interested
in
the
the
the
health
benefits
here
and
we've
got
that
here,
but
I'd
like
us
to
just
be
a
little
more
explicit
with
with
our
with
our
goals
around
that
and
then
also
as
we're
looking
at
this
opportunity,
housing
ordinance
the
goals.
I
think
it
might
make
some
sense
to
have
a
look
at
how
we
be
a
little
more
sustainable
with
these
particular
properties.
J
A
A
A
It's
just
so
confusing.
Sometimes
thank
you.
Sorry,
not
a
problem.
All
right!
Well,
noodle
that
and
we
can
always.
If
something
comes
to
you,
we
can
always
move
back
I'd
like
to
move
then
to
the
discussion
about
opportunity,
housing,
eligibility
and
some
of
the
financial
issues
that
we've
talked
to
and
those
are
the
next
couple
of
pages,
the
opportunity,
housing
eligibility
and
then
the
page
that
follows
their
rental,
housing
affordability.
A
So
I
have
a
question
for
snap
a
question.
Maybe
a
comment,
maybe
something
we
need
to
think
about
as
an
organization
as
groups
here.
So
we
look
at
the
bottom
of
this
page
and
it
the
area
median
income
is
103
400
for
the
area,
median
income,
that's
the
minneapolis
st
paul,
bloomington
msa,
but
maybe
miss
showquist.
Maybe
you
can
help
me
out.
You
don't
have
to
double
back.
I
will
just
do
it
myself
and
I'll
just
reference
on
page
10
of
the
report.
A
A
A
E
E
The
hud
data
is
is
by
family
size.
But
what
this
really
shows
is
also
that
we
need
fifty
percent
and
thirty
percent
units,
the
sixty
percent
or
or
even
eighty
percent.
I've
heard
developers
describe
80
market
rate,
80
percent
units
in
bloomington
as
market
rate,
and
so
it's
something
that
we
need
to
recognize
that
there's
a
difference
between
the
american
community
survey
data
and
the
calculations
that
hud
and
minnesota
housing
and
hennepin
county
and
other
funders
use
to
define,
affordable
and
really
focus
on.
A
And
I
would
agree-
and
I
think
that
that's
exactly
the
point
that
I
was
making
so
60
of
the
area
meeting
income
is
one
number
but
60
of
the
bloomington
median
income
is
significantly
less.
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
keep
that
at
the
forefront
as
we
continue
this
discussion
and
continue
to
to
move
forward
with
some
goals
and
with
policy
decisions
and
just
numbers
that
have
caught
my
eye
as
we've
gone
through
all
of
this
council
member
carter.
A
question
comment.
C
Thank
you
mayor,
just
a
really
quick
question.
How
often
are
these
numbers
kind
of
recalculated
so,
and
I
guess
I'm
curious.
Obviously
we
are
seeing
a
huge
economic
downturn
right
now
and
there's
going
to
be
an
impact
on
these
numbers.
But
how
quickly
are
they
kind
of
recalculated
and
used
in
terms
of
you
know,
figuring
out,
affordable
housing
requirements.
E
Thank
you
councilmember
carter.
They
are
recalculated
annually
and
but
we
didn't
receive
this
data
until
preparing
for
this
report.
Well,
hud
provides
their
data,
usually
I
think
by
april.
So
we
have
several
months
where
we
work
with
last
year's
data,
and
we
need
we've
chosen
to
use
the
metropolitan
council's
affordability
limits.
Sometimes
they
change
some
between
different
hud
programs
and
but
generally
the
hud,
affordable,
rent
limits
and
and
the
met
council
limits
are
the
same.
E
H
I
might
jump
in
there
too
it
it
does
lag
behind.
It
is
a
formula
that
they
use
based
on
census,
data
that
hud
does
to
calculate
this
and
that
formula
kind
of
takes
into
an
inflation
factor
and
that
inflation
factor
will
likely
probably
even
lag
for
next
year.
I
don't
know
how
you
know
how
accurate
they
can
get
in
a
quick
amount
of
time.
So
if
you'll
probably
see
some
reflection
in
next
year,
but
it
probably
won't
be
close
to
reality,
it's
going
to
be
more
of
a
guess
that
hud
comes
up
with.
I
A
A
A
C
E
C
A
Thank
you
councilmember.
I
would
agree.
It
needs
to
be
more
than
just
an
eyeball
test
kind
of
looking
at
the
maps
and
so
on,
councilmember
lowman
and
then
I
believe
I
saw
councilmember
olsen
so
councilmember
loman,
I'm
the
council
member
commissioner
olson.
I
keep
giving
you
a
promotion
again.
John.
I'm
sorry.
J
J
So
what
I'm
wondering
you've
got
this
building
design
piece
around
the
parking
reduction
and
so-
and
I'm
not
saying
that
I'm
in
favor
of
this
by
just
simply
asking
the
question,
but
I
just
wanted
to
at
least
put
the
question
out
there.
You
know,
given
the
advent
of
of
or
the
future
advent
of,
driverless
cars
and
really
the
idea
that
we
talk
about
in
our
city
about
creating
a
more
walkable
city.
J
D
Thank
you,
mayor
city,
council,
members,
commissioners,
that's
something
that
our
our
staff
has
been
talking
about
quite
a
bit
and
let
me
give
you
kind
of
a
couple
of
areas
that
we've
been
considering
council
member
lowman
one
is
walkability,
obviously,
and
trying
to
determine
the
distance
from,
for
instance,
high
frequency
transit.
So
that's
one
aspect
of
this
conversation
we've
been
having.
We've
also
been
talking
about
this
very
sort
of
hard
and
fast
structured
parking
requirement
which
is
really
expensive
for
development
purposes
and
especially
for
affordable
development
purposes.
D
Knowing
that
some
residents
will
rely
on
a
personal
vehicle,
but
also
thinking
about
it
in,
as
you
say,
a
more
nuanced
way
where,
where
those
projects
have
good
proximity
to
transit,
can
we
decrease
or
eliminate
parking
requirements?
And
that's
something
that
we'd
like
to
to
investigate
further
and
come
back
to
you
with
a
firm
recommendation
about
in
the
coming
months?.
F
The
fact
that
we've,
the
city,
has
worked
with
developers,
dialogue
and
and
getting
ideas,
and
that
kind
of
thing-
and
there
was
talk
a
little
bit
ago
about
doing
some
focus
groups,
including
with
developers,
but
I
think,
as
the
focus
groups
go
forward,
I
think
that
it
would
be
very
wise
to
to
look
at
each
incentive
as
to
is
it
doing
what
we
wanted
to
do.
Is
it
important
and
to
the
point
that
I
think
council
member
lohman
said,
is
the.
D
Mayor,
if
I
might
just
answer
quickly
the
timing
question,
thank
you
mayor
bosse,
council
members,
commissioners.
What
we
would
recommend
is
that,
after
we
have
our
second
workshop
with
you
in
september,
we
bring
back
a
series
of
ordinance
revisions
and
recommendations,
probably
sometime
in
that
october
november
time
frame
for
your
consideration.
Thank
you.
A
C
A
We
wait
until
we
get
down
to
that
slide
where
the
or
the
proposed
ordinance
changed.
If
we
could
do
that,
that
would
be
okay.
What
I'd
like
to
do?
Is
we
right
before
we
get
into
the
proposed
ordinance,
changes
or
notes?
Just
a
quick
stop
at
the
slide
with
designated
transit
areas
and
opportunity
zones?
A
C
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
so
kind
of
going
back
to
our
conversation
earlier
about.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
development
happening
on
the
east
side.
You
know,
obviously,
that
a
lot
of
this
is
east
and
central,
and
I'm
just
I
guess,
I'd
be
curious
to
know
why
more
of
the
neighborhood
areas
on
the
west
side
aren't
identified
as
areas
for
opportunity
you
know:
do
we
have
zoning
challenges?
I
I'm
just
curious
to
know
why
other
other
neighborhood
nodes
aren't
identified
by
one
of
those
little
red
circles.
E
H
There
are
certainly
other
commercial
nodes
out
there,
but
they
seem
to
be
invested
a
little
bit
more
from
the
property
owners
and
less
opportunity.
I
think,
was
kind
of
the
the
thought
behind
that
I
wasn't
involved.
This
was
several
years
ago
that
this
was
done,
but
that
was
kind
of
the
thought,
process
and
kind
of
narrowed
down
the
top
three
priorities,
one
of
which
was,
I
believe,
both
feeder
and
old
shock
was
identified
as
a
priority,
I
believe
portland
and
american,
and
I'm
blanking
on
the
third
top
one.
A
B
H
H
H
I
think
this
is
maybe
what
councilmember
carter
is
getting
at
is
why
isn't
there
some
development
happening
over
there
on
the
west
side
really
what's
happened
is
that
the
west
side
is
is
more
market
rate
driven,
but
the
market
rate
sites
now
with
covington
and
the
lexington
have
gone
up.
You've
got
rents
coming
in
there.
Everybody
knows
what
people
are
willing
to
pay
for
the
west
side
of
bloomington
and
some
of
those
sites
have
transitioned
into
senior
housing.
The
one
in
the
normandale
lake
district
is
the
is
the
most
obvious
one.
H
The
other
one
north
of
494
on
the
old
lifetime
site
is
another
one.
That's
looking
to
be
senior
housing
if
they
could
get
that
one
off
the
ground,
but
those
would
typically
be
market
rate
sites.
But
the
fact
of
the
matter
is,
you
can
get
more
rent
in
eden,
prairie
or
edina,
or
some
of
the
other
neighboring
communities
and
so
market
rate
housing
is
going
there
and.
C
So
that
would
be
helpful
but
yeah.
I
guess
for
me
it
would
maybe
be
worth
kind
of
revisiting
the
conversation
and
making
sure
that
again
it
aligns
with
the
goals
of
the
opportunity,
housing,
ordinance
and
and
if
there
are
barriers
in
certain
areas
of
the
city,
we
could
figure
out
how
to
address
those.
A
A
F
F
Council,
member
coutier,
I
think
you
were
involved
with
this
process.
There
was
a
very
elaborate
list
of
things
that
were
studied,
including
what
the
area
looked
like
in
a
whole
range
of
things,
and
there
were
other.
There
were
sites
out
in
the
western
part
of
the
city
that
were
being
considered
and
the
criteria
that
was
used
by
the
hra
was
did
not
end
up
moving
them
forward,
and
so
it
that
would
be
something
to
look
back
to.
I
think
I
know
council
member
coutier,
do
you
recall
being
part
of
that.
I
Thank
you,
mr
yeah,
to
to
commissioner
olson's
point
yeah
that
was
that
was
back
before
I
was
on
the
council
when
I
was
on
the
hra,
and
I
don't
I
see
mr
hartman
on
the
on
the
list
of
participants
here,
but
I
don't
he
I
did.
I
am
present
yes
yeah
this
I
mean,
I
think,
brian.
What
what
what
is
being
asked
about
was
this
neighborhood
commercial
node
study
that
the
area
jury
did
oh.
K
Council
members
and
commission
members-
this
is
brian
hartman
from
the
hra
program
manager
and
good
memory.
Commissioner
olson,
yes,
there
was
a
commercial
node
study
that
was
conducted
during
doug
grout's
tenure,
with
jason
schmidt,
I
believe
from
planning
was
the
lead
planner
on
that,
where
they
identified
specific
commercial
nodes,
and
both
mr
palermo
and
mr
redling
alluded
to
that,
and
I
I
am
remiss
as
well.
I
don't
remember
all
the
top
three
of
that
particular
study,
but
that
is
something
perhaps
we
want
to
revisit.
K
A
Thank
you,
mr
hartman.
What
I,
what
I'm
going
to
ask
staff
to
do
is
maybe
dust
off
the
report
that
was
done
a
few
years
back
and
make
sure
that
everybody
has
a
copy
of
that.
I
know
we
have
new
members
of
the
hra
as
well
as
new
members
of
the
council,
who
may
not
be
familiar
with
it,
provide
that
information
and
we
can
also
look
at
what
might
need
to
be
updated
or
reviewed
on
that
that
topic
as
well.
A
B
Was
what
I
was
going
to
offer
for
the
council
and
we
can
do
the
same
for
the
hra,
but
you'll
recall
that
the
city
council
established
focused
renewal
as
one
of
the
six
strategic
priorities
back
in
early
2016,
and
that
is
really
what
the
catalyst
was
for
doing
that
study.
The
concern
by
the
council
back
then,
was
that
we
had
not
invested
enough
time
in
looking
at
our
neighborhood
commercial
nodes
and
aging
areas,
both
serving
neighborhoods
and
some
of
the
larger
commercial
areas.
B
Glenn
markigaard,
I
didn't
see
that
he's
on
the
participant
list.
I
I
think
he's
tuning
in
would
probably
be
able
to
answer
the
one
two
and
three
question,
but
we
started
with
about
16
different
areas,
whittle
them
down
to
about
nine.
We
revisited
that
with
the
council
several
times,
my
recollection
was
maybe
old,
cedar
old
shock,
98th
and
nicolet
and
portland
american
were
the
top
three
and
panda
90th,
I
think,
was
pretty
high
on
the
list
there
too.
So
we
will
get
the
report
we'll
follow
up
with
everybody.
A
A
A
All
right,
if
we
could
now
council
and
commissioners
if
we
could
just
kind
of
start
going
through
some
of
the
ordnance
notes
and
the
ordinance
change
possibilities
that
the
staff
has
brought
forward,
some
of
them,
including
this
first
one
to
recommend,
collaborating
with
public
health
outreach
and
engagement
engagement,
our
racial
equity
coordinator,
I
think
that's
a
no-brainer.
I
don't
think
anybody's
going
to
oppose
that
any
comments
or
anything
to
add
to
that
as
well.
Perhaps
we're
missing
out
on
something
I
think
the
more
folks
involved
in
this
process.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
actually
just
I
don't
obviously
need
to
debate
anything
on
this,
but
I
I
think
I
just
want
to
commend
staff
for
for
recognizing
that
affordability
is
more
than
just
rent
that
it.
You
know
there
are
all
these
other
costs,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
actually
talked
with
dr
johnson
about
before
he
left
was
the
concept
of
security
deposit
insurance,
rather
than
sort
of
requiring
that
that
folks
put
down
this
sort
of
lump
sum
of
cash
for
us
security
deposits.
I
E
A
A
A
E
Thank
you,
mayor
boosie,
chair,
thorson
members
and
commissioners.
You
know
this
is
this
is
one
that
I
I
wish
that
planning
manager,
glenn
marcogard
was
here
to
explain
in
depth,
but
what
I
you
know
to
paraphrase
what
we
found
with
one
of
the
we
have
three
sites
that
we've
know
exist
today.
That
would
benefit
from
this
type
of
ordinance
change.
E
E
100
for
various
reasons
that
project
did
not
work
out
and
the
second
developer,
that's
looking
at
the
site
is
also
looking
at.
I
believe
it's
like
50
or
60
units
that
they're
thinking
about
which
again
is
not
as
high
as
90.,
but
it
it
is
close
to
double.
What
would
you
know
currently
be
with
in
line
with
our
code.
So
just
I
wanted
to
give
that
background
to
inform
us
where
this
is
coming
from
and
it's
coming
from
both
affordable
and
private
market
rate
housing.
E
You
know
non-profit
and
private,
affordable
and
market
rate
housing
developers
looking
for
good
opportunities,
good
sites
in
the
city,
and
this
new
minimum
site
area
would
really
assist
with
with
meeting
our
affordable
goals
the
open
space
requirements.
I
think
that's
also,
you
know
something
to
address
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
How
near
is
it
to
a
park
or
other
open
space?
D
G
So
I
know
we're
talking
about
it
in
the
context
of
setting
a
site
minimum.
You
know
a
fixed
number,
but
I
would
like
to
see
us
continue
with
those
site
minimums
yet
encourage
stack
to
bring
those
forward
to
console
on
a
case-by-case
basis
so
that
we
could
exercise
discretion
based
upon
the
uniquenesses
of
each
site.
A
F
F
I
I
recall
when
I
was
on
council
that
when
the
apple
would
point
that
was
built,
just
east
of
france
on
old
shakopee
came
up.
We
had
a
lot
of
very
emotional
kinds
of
pushbacks
about
this
big
monster
coming
in
we've
heard
before
about
the
mcmansions
and
so
forth.
So
all
I'm
saying
is
that
on
these
points,
I
think
we
need
to
certainly
investigate
them,
but
we
need
to
bring
our
community
along
our
residence.
Along
with
that.
Thank
you.
A
A
I
So
I
just
sort
of
this
was
this
is
so.
First
of
all,
I
have
surrendered
to
the
cricket
and
closed
my
window,
but
this
was
the
the
first
of
kind
of
three
areas
in
a
row
where
I
just
wrote
a
note
and
it
basically
came
down
to
an
equal
sign
and
yes,
with
an
exclamation
point,
I
know
miss
show
question.
I
have
talked
about
this
a
lot,
but
I
I
think
we
are-
and
I
know
I'm
not
the
only
one
who
thinks
this.
I
We
are
very
much
over
parked
in
the
city
of
bloomington
and
I
think
that
extends
to
residential
parking
in
multi-family
housing
most
particularly
so
I
you
know,
I
agree
with
flexibility,
but
I
I
think
we
can
take
a
very,
very
serious
look
at
reducing
parking
requirements
generally
and
specifically
the
the
enclosed
parking
requirement
as
well.
So
I
just
to
to
council
member
lowman's
point
earlier.
I
don't
know
if
I'd
support,
you
know
a
complete
elimination
of
parking
requirements,
but
I
I
think
we
can
be
be
creative
and
a
little
more
forward.
C
Thank
you
mayor,
so
my
opinion
on
this,
I
guess
has,
is
constantly
evolving,
but
I
guess
I
have
a
couple
of
concerns
related
to
parking
and
reduced
parking,
and
so
I
guess
I
would
just
I.
I
would
need
more
time
to
consider
and
think
through,
but
a
couple
of
concerns
for
me
in
the
data
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation.
C
I
think
it.
I
can't
remember
what
the
exact
percentage
was
of
the
amount
of
renters
that
had
kids,
and
I
am
I'm
afraid
that
by
reducing
parking
we
might
be
disproportionately
impacting
families
and
then
also
you
know
a
lot
of
people
we
just
saw
in
the
data
2.
You
know
people
have
to
work
two
minimum
wage
job
more
than
two
minimum
wage
jobs
to
afford
a
one
bedroom
apartment
in
bloomington,
and
so
people
are
working,
multiple
jobs
at
odd
hours
that
don't
always
and
they're
not
always
served
by
our
transit
system.
C
Well,
and
so
those
are
two
concerns
for
me.
I
guess,
as
we
talk
about
parking
and
reducing
parking,
I'm
definitely
like
open
to
the
conversation
and-
and
I
think
that
it
really
is
site
dependent.
But
I
don't
want
to
again
with
good
intentions,
adversely
affect
low-income
families
and
who,
who
may
rely
on
multiple
vehicles,
to
get
to
jobs
and
to
get
their
kids
to
school
and
et
cetera.
So
I
guess
I
will.
I
will
leave
that
there.
A
A
I
will
say
I
just
I
was
over
at
the
family
this
afternoon-
touring
the
family
and
they're
they're
starting
to
fill
up
and
did
get
the
note
that
for
their
storage
space
that
they
have
about
10
percent
of
the
storage
space
that
was
required
is
currently
now
being
rented,
so
they're,
they're,
they're,
anecdotal
first
person
account
is
that
they
have
too
much
storage
space
over
there.
Now.
So
just
a
thought,
council,
member
coulter.
I
J
I
think
it's
worth
trying
to
you
know:
let's
see
what
we
can
do
to
reduce
it,
not
only
for
those
units,
but
just
you
know
broadly,
if
if
the
market
is
saying
that
there's
something
they
can
provide
for
us
and
it
seems
reasonable,
let's
give
it
a
shot.
Let's
try
it.
You
know
this
again
is
a
you
know.
These
are
mostly
temporary
units
and
those
kind
of
spaces.
So
you
know
I'm
really
interested
to
see.
You
know
what
this
would
provide
for
our
you
know
future
residents.
C
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
appreciated
councilmember
coulter's
suggestion
of
getting
input
from
renters
and
I
was
actually
thinking
about
that
related
to
the
parking
issue
too.
So
I
think
that
focus
groups
are,
you
know,
part
of
next
steps,
and
I
I
would
hope
that
there
is
robust
conversation
happening
with
tenants
so
that
we
can
better
understand
some
of
the
barriers
that
they
might
face
and-
and
we
might
find
that
you
know
that
the
the
storage
space-
it's
really
not
an
issue
and
and
it's
a
really
great
area
for
opportunity.
G
We've
had
an
exponential
growth
in
those,
and
there
is
a
part
of
that
being
driven
by
sources
that
we
don't
necessarily
understand.
Is
it
the
renter?
Is
it
the
homeowner
who
just
is
maxed
out,
so
I'd
really
take
a
global
look
at
that
to
get
data,
because
I
think
it
really
adds
context
to
the
question.
G
It's
the
condo
development
in
front
of
health
partners,
whose
name
I'm
struggling
to
recall,
but
we
have
a
significant
problem
parking
there
and
that
was
built
a
number
of
years
ago
under
yet
higher
standard
than
what
we
currently
have
so
I'm
concerned
about.
You
know
I
like
the
objective
of
creating
more.
G
B
D
B
D
We'll
see
council
members,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
we
do
think
there
is
a
linkage
between
this
issue
of
storage,
space
on
site
and
the
preponderance
of
self
storage
throughout
the
city,
and
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
missing
some
kind
of
connection
there.
So
we
will
include
that
analysis
in
in
our
recommendations,
as
well
as
information
that
we
glean
from
conversations
with
landlords
and
tenants.
Thank
you.
A
I
G
B
A
C
E
E
D
Could
I
jump
in
mayor
and
council
please.
This
goes
with
exactly
what
I've
heard
a
couple
of
you
mention
with
regard
to
parking
and
storage
and
some
other
very
specific
attributes
of
these
projects,
and
I
think
this
speaks
to
us
asking
you
as
policy
makers,
to
give
us
some
guide
posts
and
some
parameters,
and
then
we
bring
these
projects
back
to
you
after
we
have
worked
with
the
developer,
to
really
finely
tune
them
to
those
goals
and
hopefully
bring
you
a
project
that
is
a
better
project.
A
B
B
I
note
that
that
is
the
only
thing
in
the
opportunity:
housing
ordinance
that
all
projects
used,
although
the
one
got
switched
over
some
other
funding
source,
but
pretty
much
all
of
them.
The
other
part
is
as
an
alternative
how
it
would
help
us
get
to
that
much
lower
income
of
30
or
so
on
that
you
know
it
just
has.
I
think
the
flexibility
has
to
be
driving
towards
that
where
we
can
provide
these
projects
with
with
less
subsidy
or
and
or
much
deeper
affordability
parameters
within
it.
J
Maybe
we
ought
to
you
know
limit
some
of
that
that
flexibility
around
that
goal
or
or
there
would
be
some
kind
of
standard
where,
once
we
we
achieve
a
certain
objective
around
30
and
50,
then
we
could
use
some
of
that
flexibility
on
other
other
parts
of
the
the
product
projects,
but
very
much
in
agreement
with
the
idea
of
the
spirit
of
of
the
ordinance
and
this
flexibility
idea
and
want
to
encourage
us
to
kind
of
move
forward.
With
that,
I'm
not
saying
we
should
limit
that
at
all.
A
A
If
not,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
staff
and
take
us
through
tenant
protection
again
with
the
eye
on
the
clock
that
we
are
two
hours
and
40
minutes
in.
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
folks
time.
So,
let's
push
through
the
the
tenant
protection
and
the
housing
stability
resources.
If
we
could
please.
E
E
E
We
focus
on
we're
focused
now
on
the
top
25
potential
future
sales
of
noaa
properties
based
on
size,
condition,
proximity
to
transit
and
other
amenities,
and
we
know
we
have
more
work
to
do
in
engaging
broader
community
partnerships
with
the
types
of
community
members
that
can
assist
us
in
trying
to
identify
these
properties.
Pre-Sale,
including
lenders,
brokers,
affordable
and
private
housing
developers,
the
bloomington
housing
action
team
and
and
others
to
help
us
be
informed
of
the
market,
but
also
be
in
a
position
to
educate
both
property
owners
and
tenants.
I
I
You
know
I
know
we
talked
about
some
things
related
to
greater
use
of
section,
8
vouchers
and
right
of
first
refusal,
and
things
like
that.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
been
any
discussion
about
sort
of
what
other
you
know,
obviously
not
taking
our
eye
out
the
ball
as
far
as
this
ordinance,
but
what
other
options
and
staff
is
is
looking
at.
D
D
Yet
we
would
like
to
bring
that
back
at
a
future
workshop,
and
I
think
we
would
want
to
do
that
in
conjunction
with
our
colleagues
in
legal
to
ensure
that
we're
bringing
forward
ideas
that
can
actually
be
enforced
and
and
adopted
with
with
the
hope
that
they
will
actually
have
a
positive
impact.
So
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
us
as
we
as
we
narrow
that
list
of
ideas
down
and
and
get
some
more
information
on
it.
C
A
A
K
K
Go
the
next
slide
here,
real
quick,
some
very
interesting
demographic
information
that
we
are
have
received
from
veep
showing
who
they
are
assisting.
In
this
slide,
we
can
see
the
demographics
that
they
are
serving
a
large
percentage
of
hispanic
and
or
latino
population
in
the
city,
and
also
a
large
percentage
of
black
and
or
african
american.
K
There
we
go.
Thank
you
impact
the
first
chart
here
in
the
lower
left
hand,
corner
shows
household
size
and
it's
important
to
really
take
a
look
here:
the
size
of
the
four
and
five
bedroom
household
size,
people
that
were
serving
as
well
as
the
one
bedroom.
So
there
is
a
large
spread
of
different
household
sizes
that
they're
assisting
with
their
emergency
rent
assistance,
also
the
incomes
they
are
serving
folks
that
are
very
low
income.
K
If
you
look
at
the
first
income
categories
here,
these
are
monthly
incomes,
38
of
the
people
that
have
been
assisted
through
their
emergency
rental
assistance
program
at
499
or
less,
and
these
are
households
that
did
not
have
eligibility
for
unemployment.
The
supplementary
unemployment
benefits
the
kovid
payments,
etc.
K
In
addition
to
that,
the
minnesota
home
ownership
center,
which
provides
foreclosure
prevention
and
counseling
assistance
for
bloomington
residents,
has
applied
for
and
has
been
successful,
receiving
state
and
hennepin
county
funds
to
serve
bloomington
residents
with
these
services.
So
this
is
the
the
primary
go-to
for
prevention
of
of
of
foreclosure
and
also
for
counseling
and
assistance.
K
Going
forward,
some
of
our
coven
housing
stability
strategies
include
continuing
to
monitor
renters,
serve
on
a
monthly
basis
and
homers
homeowners
serve
on
a
quarterly
basis,
continuing
support
partnerships
with
veep,
the
home
ownership
center
and
also
through
hennepin
county
and
the
state.
Through
the
cares
act,
resources
that
are
are
flowing
through
those
sources.
K
We
are
going
to
coordinate
with
communications
and
in
pla
in
part
with
organizations
who
reach
residents
of
the
bipod
community,
along
with
co-ed
public
health
and
community
development,
and
we
are
re-engaging
property
owners
through
our
rental
housing
collaborative
along
with
our
partners
with
incoed.
To
do
that
strategy.
J
Just
real
quick,
I
know
we
certainly
have
talked
about
rental
assistance
here.
That's
out
there
is
there,
and
I
know
we're
primarily
focused
on
rental.
Stuff
is
what
is
that
are
out
there
for
those
who
are
getting
themselves?
You
know
twisted
around
a
tree
with
the
with
their
their
their
regular
mortgage.
J
Is
there
any
assistance
out
there
for
for
those
folks?
I
know
that
that
you
know
there's
kind
of
a
it's
a
longer
track
period
of
time,
but
those
those
mortgages
certainly
start
to
build
up
what?
What
is
the
city
and
community
doing
for
those
folks
to
prepare
for
that
eventuality?
At
the
end
of
the
year.
K
Home
ownership-
please
excuse
me,
mr
mayor,
mr
mayor,
chair,
thorson,
councilmember,
roman.
The
the
home
ownership
center
is
the
the
statewide
organization
that
coordinates
and
provides
counseling
and
assistance
for
homeowners
who
are
getting
behind
in
their
their
mortgage
and
also
how
to
prevent
that
from
happening
in
the
first
place.
What
we're
finding
at
the
present
moment
that
a
lot
of
lenders
are
working
with
homeowners
to
perhaps
put
payments
on
the
packed
onto
the
end
of
their
their
current
mortgage
term.
E
Thank
you
mayor,
chair
thorson,
the
homeownership
center.
Well,
while
they
do
not
have
network
service
providers
that
are
located
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
all
of
their
service
providers
are
available
to
city
of
bloomington
residents
and
most
of
the
counseling
is
occurring
virtually
at
this
point
in
time.
They
do
did
receive
funding
from
minnesota
housing
with
the
covid
19
housing
assistance
prevention
program
to
provide
direct
mortgage
payment
assistance
when
needed
and
continue
to
offer
the
foreclosure
prevention
counseling
as
well.
J
I
I
guess
what
I'm
concerned
about.
There
are
those
folks
that
are
on
the
edge
of
of
our
society,
who
have
made
that
transition
from
rental
into
ownership.
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
with
it,
we're
also
providing
some
support
for
those
folks
who
may
be
on
the
the
bottom
end
of
of
that
that
lever
that
there
isn't,
we
don't
have
a
gap
in
our
and
our
assistance.
J
E
Here
I
apologize
if
I
wasn't
clear
enough:
minnesota
housing
did
provide
direct
mortgage
assistance,
pay
payments,
funding
to
10
million
for
statewide
to
to
the
home
ownership
network,
and
those
resources
are
available
to
bloomington
residents
through
the
minnesota
homeownership
network.
So
if
we
have
bloomington
residents
that
need
assistance
paying
their
mortgage,
we
need
to
refer
them
to
the
home
ownership
center
minnesota
housing
reserved
about
40
million
of
the
100
million
dollars.
J
I
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
those
those
requirements
that
are
part
of
that.
I
know
this
is
a
separate
discussion
just
because
I'm
just
particularly
concerned
about
those
folks
who
find
themselves
on
the
edges
of
our
society.
We
talked
at
the
very
beginning
of
this
I've.
I've
known
some
folks,
who've
been
pretty
close
to
me
in
bloomington
that
have
had
some
trouble
trying
to
gain
assistance,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
they're
not
falling
through
the
cracks
because
they're
not
renting.
J
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
chair
thorson
and
commissioners
and
council
members
kind
of
a
recap
of
our
neighborhood
rehabilitation
loan
program.
The
city
through
the
hra,
operates
two
primary
rehabilitation.
Loan
programs,
one
is
funded
through
our
cdbg
program.
The
the
second
one,
which
is
our
focus
tonight,
is
our
neighborhood
rehabilitation
loan
program,
which
has
been
a
city-wide
program
for
a
number
of
years.
K
Detailing
with
the
blue
stars
and
crosses
the
cdbg
program,
and
then
the
green
and
with
the
kelp
loans,
and
that's
the
curb
appeal
loan
programs
and
then
also
our
neighborhood
loan
programs,
so
we're
seeing
really
good
dispersion
across
the
city.
We
did
have
a
curb
appeal
loan
program
that
operated
from
17
through
19,
and
we
had
identified
specific
neighborhoods
to
offer
those
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars,
exterior
only
improvement
loan
programs
and
those
are
represented
by
those
red
stars.
K
K
So
recap
here
some
activity
here
for
the
the
neighborhood
loan
program
on
also
the
curb
appeal
loan
program.
In
2019
we
did
77
loans.
We
had
a
big
year
that
year
city
contributed
412
000,
the
hra
contributed
1.3
million.
In
2018
there
was
57
loans
with
315
000
city
contribution,
hra
1.1,
so
we've
had
some
really
great
impacts.
Some
really
terrific
participation
in
this
loan
program
over
the
last
several
years.
K
For
the
2020
home
improvement
loan
program,
so
far
this
year
we've
had
43
applications
received
a
date.
We've
had
16
loans
committed
or
closed
we've
committed
over
500
000
worth
of
funding.
The
city
has
excuse
me.
The
hra
has
budgeted
600
000
this
year.
For
this
program
we
anticipate
receiving
about
300
000
in
repayments.
K
We
are
requesting
tonight
support
for
a
future
decision
of
contributing
300
000
in
city
strategic
priority
funds
to
additional
loans
for
the
2020
neighborhood
program
year.
Given
currently
the
reduction
in
funding.
We
we
would
we'd
continue
with
putting
the
curb
appeal
program
on
hold
for
future
analysis,
for
perhaps
picking
that
up
in
a
future
year.
K
So
just
kind
of
recap:
we
are
requesting
300
000
in
strategic
priority
funds.
We
have
consulted
with
the
city
cfo,
and
the
current
fund
balance
has
the
ability
to
make
this
payment
for
the
current
program
year.
Again,
that's
the
2020
program
here
that
would
be
fund
additional
loans
yet
to
be
committed
and
made
in
this
existing
year,
going
forward
we'll
work
to
identify
additional
resources
from
state
and
or
county
that
may
be
appropriate
to
fund
this
type
of
rehab
in
future
years.
A
Also
questions,
I
will
just
add,
I
just
looked
over
to
chair
thorson
and
commented
how
impressive
that
map
is
the
first
map
that
came
up
with
the
stars
on
it,
just
the
the
dispersion
and
the
the
penetration
throughout
the
city.
I
think
it
shows
just
how
deep
these
programs
have
gone.
And,
frankly,
all
you
need
to
do
is
drive
some
through
some
of
those
areas
to
see
how
successful
and
worthwhile
this
has
been.
This
is
definitely
money,
well
spent,
so
hats
off
to
you
for
that.
A
The
question
of
strategic
priority
funds
just
this
evening-
I,
I
guess
I'm
unclear
mr
hartman-
are
we:
are
we
actually
making
the
call
on
this
tonight,
or
is
this
part
of
a
nodding
agreement
or
or
something
that
we're
looking
to
discuss
in
the
future?
As
we
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
budget
realities
for
the
coming
year
or
two.
K
K
My
understanding
is
that
if
the
the
opinion
is
positive
this
evening,
that
finance
staff
would
draft
an
ordinance
for
future
consideration
of
dedicating
current
funding
for
the
current
year,
we're
not
talking
2021,
just
current
2020
budget
of
that
allotment
of
20
or
300
000.
Excuse
me
to
the
neighborhood
rehabilitation
loan
program.
A
B
B
We
just
talked
about
people
that
may
get
foreclosed
on
that
that
may
get
evicted
from
their
apartment
and
the
needs,
and
then
we're
helping
people
fix
up
their
house,
which
is
important
but
trying
to
weigh
those
priorities
in
a
in
a
relative
way,
and
I
guess
you
know
one
of
the
questions
I
have
regarding
this.
This
funding
is:
is
it
possible
to
use
the
housing
trust
fund?
B
E
E
Obviously,
the
creation
of
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
came
through
the
opportunity,
housing
ordinance
and
is
targeted
primarily
to
meeting
our
affordable
housing
goals,
but
the
ordinances
can
be
amended.
Another
issue
I
see
there
is
its
focus.
The
ordinance
focuses
on
single-family
homes
of
20
homes
or
more
in
the
development
and
preservation.
E
So
that
is
another
way
that
the
ordinance
in
the
trust
fund
might
not
currently
be
a
good
fit
for
this
type
of
work.
However,
we
recognize
that
rehabilitation
loan
pro
the
the
goals
of
the
reit
rehabilitation
loan
program
are
very
important
to
the
city
and
and
help
stabilize
existing
homeowners
in
their
homes
and
are
also
often
you
know
the
most
affordable
housing
option
for
that
that
family
or
individual.
E
So
the
importance
of
of
this
work
is
is
well
understood,
as
we
really
work
to
see
if
there's
other
resources
at
minnesota,
housing
or
if
the
county
has
cares,
act,
resources
that
will
be
made
available.
The
hra
wants
to
be
in
a
position
to
bring
bring
those
resources
into
the
city
to
assist
our
homeowners.
A
B
Sure,
mr
mayor
and
thank
you
and
council
members
and
hra
commissioners,
I
I
think
that
is
the
succinct
answer
is
no
the
question
about
the
strategic
priority
funds
and
where
we
sit
with
the
current
economic
situation.
Certainly
if
the
council
wishes
to
wait
a
little
longer
here
before
making
a
determination,
we
can
do
that.
B
That's
a
nice
idea
like
what
they
did
with
that
home.
I'd
like
to
do
something
as
well,
so
I
think
it.
I
think
it's
a
very
useful
program
just
in
in
that
it
gets
sometimes
neighborhoods
are
getting
a
little
a
little
older
and
and
maybe
not
being
kept
up
as
well.
All
it
takes
is
one
or
two
homeowners
to
make
some
changes,
and
it
really
has
a
bigger
impact
than
than
you
would
think.
B
Yeah,
I
I
share
the
sentiments
about
the
value
of
the
program.
I
guess
district
four
over
here
having
some
of
the
oldest
single-family
housing
stock
in
the
city.
I
know
quite
a
few
folks
over
here
who
have
taken
great
advantage
of
it.
I
guess
I
I'm
a
little
hung
up
right
now.
Well,
I
guess
a
quick
question
I'll
sneak
in
here.
B
K
Mr
mayor
sheriff
thoresen
and
councilmember
martin,
this
would
reduce
the
number
of
loans
that
we
could
complete
this
program
year.
We
approximately
each
loan
average
is
about
twenty
four
thousand
dollars,
so
that'd
be
about
a
dozen
loans
that
we
could
not
make.
If
we
do
not
receive
that
fund
this
year,.
B
B
B
I
I
could
be
off
base
with
the
back
of
the
envelope
math,
but
I
think
I
remember
in
previous
presentations
a
one
percent
levy
increase
equaling
in
the
ballpark
of
of
600
000
and
considering
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
folks
are,
as
has
been
mentioned,
already
kind
of
hanging
on
for
survival
in
their
homes.
Right
now,
I
think
renewal
seems
like
a
second
order
priority
if
the
program
can
continue
again,
it'll
be
to
a
lesser
extent.
So
that's
just
kind
of
where
my
head
is
at.
J
Oh,
thank
you
mayor.
So
when
I
look
at
this,
I've
been
a
really
a
strong
supporter
of
this
strategic
priority
and
I
think
that
councilmember
martin
really
has
kind
of
encapsulated
it
in
terms
of
what
is
the
impact
of
this
on
our
on
our
budget.
So
that's
kind
of
the
first
thing
that
I
kind
of
look
at
with
this
I'd
be
interested
to
hear
more
of
what
our
our
our
hra
commissioners
have
to
say
around
this
too.
J
One
thought
that
I
had
was,
if
I
could
you
know
if
we
could
have
this
not
come
out
of
the
general
fund
or
the
strategic
priorities
and
that's
kind
of
another
way
of
saying
it's
coming
out
of
the
general
fund.
I
may
be
a
little
more
interested
in
in
that
I
don't
know
where
that
would
come
from.
So
if
there's
some
creativity,
you
know
that
councilman
ellison
kind
of
brought
that
up.
I
would
be
interested
in
that.
J
I
wonder
if
it
makes
some
sense
to
hold
the
decision
around
this
300
000
dollar
fund
rehab
loan.
Until
after
we
have
a
really
firm
grip
on
what
we're
going
to
do
with
with
with
pay
year,
21
and
22
with
with
the
budget-
and
I
think
I
don't
want
to
just
say
no
to
this-
because
if,
if
that
comes
back
and
there's
some
possibility
where
we
could
work
it
in,
I
think
that
it
may
make
some
sense.
J
This
does
fit
into
our
strategic
priority
around
focused
renewal,
which
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
that,
but
I
did
say
during
our
last
a
council
meeting
that
that
I
would
you
know,
want
to
go
ahead
and
put
this
priority
kind
of
on
the
bench
so
that
we
can
kind
of
provide
some
more
relief
on
to
folks.
As
I
look
at
that
money
too,
for
those
folks
who
may
be
rehabbing
their
loans,
I
wouldn't
want
to
be
providing.
J
You
know,
loans
to
folks,
and
then
there
are
other
folks
that
we
could
use
these
same
dollars
to
support
them,
keeping
their
houses
in
bloomington.
So
it
doesn't
shift
to
being
a
rental
type
situation
for
them.
So,
for
those
those
reasons
I
I
am
leaning
towards,
you
know
delaying
this
decision
until
we
kind
of
need
to
make
it
or
just
delaying
it
to
next
year.
G
C
C
You
know
what
are
people
asking
you
know
what
are
the
requests
for
what
kinds
of
things-
and
I
guess
I'm
curious,
because
it's
like
you
know,
are
people
asking
to
replace
their
air
conditioner
or
their
furnace
or
think
things
like
that
that
and
are
those
eligible
expenses
and
to
me
those
are
things
that
you
know
if
they
had
helped
to
pay
for
something
like
that.
It
then,
and
but
and
they're
already
struggling
to
pay
their
mortgage.
C
You
know
it.
Could
it
could
help
them
cover
some
of
those
costs,
so
they
can
make
their
mortgage
payment.
You
know
I'm
trying
to
think
through
how
it
could
be
right
now,
a
program
to
help
those
with
houses
who
are
financially
strapped
but
might
have
like
a
repair
or
something
that
is
very
costly
that
they
can't
afford
to
to
to
fix
at
this
point,
and
so,
if
you
could
provide
a
little
more
information
on
that,
that
would
be
helpful.
K
We
do
some
hvac
work,
we
oftentimes
replace
old
furnaces
and
we
also
do
a
lot
of
interior
work
as
well,
but
again
siding
roofing
windows,
those
types
of
things
that
really
help
improve
the
exterior
look
of
the
house
as
well,
but
also
really
tighten
up
the
envelope
and
help
reduce
the
family's
house,
heating
costs
and
energy
usage.
So
those
are
oftentimes
what
we
see.
We
also
do
emergency
loans
too.
Through
the
hra.
K
C
Okay,
that's
really
helpful.
You
know,
I
guess
again
my
I
share
the
sentiments
of
my
colleagues
on
council
very
supportive
of
this
type
of
program,
but
given
the
financial
situation
that
we
are
in,
I
I
don't.
I
could
not
support
this
at
this
time.
However,
I
am
you
know
if
there
are
opportunities
to
support
people
in
emergency
situations
and-
and
we
have
some
some
money
there-
I
think
that
that's
really
a
smart
use
of
the
funds
during
this
time,
but
unfortunately
I
I
do.
A
So
I
think
just
counting
noses,
I
think,
we're
at
the
point
where
we'd
like
a
bit
more
information
from
staff.
I
don't
think
we're
ready
to
support
this
at
this
time
and
would
look
for
more
information
and,
as
councilmember
beloga
said,
not
ready
to
make
this
decision
in
a
vacuum,
but
rather
in
the
entire
context
of
the
next
couple
of
years
of
budget
realities
here.
So
I
is
that
helpful.
Mr
hartman.
F
F
That
are
you
know
like
a
furnace
or
something
like
that,
and
I
would
just
put
out
there
that
one
of
the
phenomenon
of
cover
19
is
that
it's.
It's
really
there's
a
lot
of
return
on
investment
for
people
feeling
uplifted,
and
so
I
don't
know
how
you
figure
the
return
on
investment
in
that
way,
but
it
might
be
that
for
those
loans
that
are
going
out
that
wouldn't
be
covered
or
might
be
by
this
300
000
would
would
end
up
having
a
nice
impact
on
a
neighborhood,
a
feeling.
A
A
The
the
financials
are
the
the
question
that
we
have
to
answer
here
as
to
whether
or
not
this
is
appropriate
that
at
this
time,
given
the
the
complete
budget
picture
that
we're
facing.
So
I
think
that
is
your
answer
to
your
request
for
the
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
strategic
fund
priority
funds
for
the
rehab
loan
program.
K
Steps
mayor,
chair
thorson,
so
next
steps
planning
will
complete
an
annual
housing
indicators
report
that
will
be
brought
back
to
you.
Community
development
will
bring
in
ordinance
changes
to
the
city
council
for
approval
committee.
Development
will
continue
to
monitor
the
covet
19
in
housing,
stability,
emergency
rent
assistance
and
those
other
issues.
K
K
E
E
E
A
B
C
C
I
I
especially
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
you've
done
to
support
people
renters
in
our
community
in
maintaining
their
housing
and
as
well
as
the
connections
to
the
mortgage
assistance,
and
so
I
know
it's
just
a
very
it's
a
hard
time
for
so
many
people,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
went
into
this
presentation
and
all
of
the
the
the
all
of
your
efforts
and
and
all
of
the
really
good
questions
and
proposals
you've
put
forward.
So
thank
you.
A
I
would
agree
thanks
to
the
hra,
for
your
work
with
this,
the
hra
staff
and
the
hra
itself.
I
think,
thanks
to
everybody,
for
a
very
good
discussion
tonight.
This
was
very
in-depth
and
a
lot
of
great
questions
and
great
discussion
on
topics
that
were
pretty
wide-ranging
and
diverse
and
in-depth,
so
chair
of
thorson
anything
to
add
this
evening,
nothing
more
nothing
more.
G
G
G
A
Well,
I'd
like
to
wrap
up
I'd
like
to
again
thank
the
hra
members
of
the
hra
great
to
see
you
let's
not
be
strangers,
let's
get
together
again
very
soon.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
staff
who
did
work
on
this
miss
showquist,
mr
hartman,
mr
palermo,
thanks
much
ms
worthington.
Thanks
for
your
guidance
on
all
of
this
with
that
council,
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
I
A
With
that
we're
adjourned,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all,
and
thanks
to
our
elected
partners,
if
you're
still
with
us
tonight
for
sticking
with
us,
if
you
have
any
questions,
do
not
hesitate,
give
any
or
all
of
us
a
call,
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
about
this.
Thank
you
all.
You
all
have
a
great
evening
thanks.