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From YouTube: November 16, 2020 Bloomington City Council Study Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota City Council Study Meeting
A
A
A
I
would
like
to
start,
as
we
have
planned
with
item
3.1,
which
is
our
emergency
declaration,
then
move
to
item
3.2
and
move
the
cbac
recommendation
and
the
budget
discussion
for
item
3.2,
which
would
then
move
item
3.3
the
park
system
master
plan
down
one,
so
that
would
be
item
3.3
and
then
we
had
a.
We
had
a
petition
today
requesting
a
recount
of
the
ballots
related
to
question
number
three
regarding
ranked
choice,
voting
on
our
most
recent
election.
A
So
I
would
like
to
add
that
as
item
3.4,
which
is
the
recount
petition
and
then
item
3.5,
which
is
our
council
policy
and
issues
update
so
again,
to
recap:
3.1
would
be
the
emergency
declaration,
3.2
cbac
recommendation
and
budget
3.3
park
system
master
plan,
3.4
recount
petition,
which
is
a
new
walk-on
item
and
3.5
council
poly
policy
issues.
An
update.
A
A
Hi
motion
passes
7-0.
We
have
an
amended
agenda
for
this
evening's
meeting.
As
stated
item
3.1
on
that
agenda
is
our
emergency
declaration
and
on
friday
of
this
week
I
I
signed
an
official
emergency
declaration
for
the
city
of
bloomington,
based
on
the
based
on
the
situation
regarding
the
covet
19
pandemic.
A
I
signed
it
friday
afternoon
those
that
type
of
mayoral
emergency
declaration
can
last
three
days
and
so
we're
bringing
it
in
front
of
the
council
tonight
to
extend
that
emergency
declaration.
A
Mr
verbruge
or
dr
kelly
on
anything
to
do
anything
to
discuss
as
we
head
into
this.
Mr
verbrook.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members
good
evening.
As
the
mayor
stated,
the
declaration
in
order
to
continue
we'll
need
council
support
and
dr
nick
kelly,
our
acting
public
health
administrator,
is
here
this
evening
just
to
set
the
context
of
why
we
feel
it
is
necessary
to
re-initiate
the
emergency
declaration.
E
We
had
allowed
it
to
lapse
at
the
end
of
june
with
full
recognition
at
that
time,
that,
as
conditions
changed
and
and
things
necessitated,
we
could
reinitiate
the
declaration,
and
we
believe
that
we
have
reached
that
point.
So
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
dr
kelly.
Have
him
walk
through
some
of
the
recent
trend,
data
that
we're
seeing
and
and
the
facts
that
are
contributing
to
this
recommendation,
and
then
we
can
bring
it
back
for
discussion
nick.
F
F
This
slide
shows
you
what's
going
on
here
in
bloomington,
as
jamie
just
highlighted,
the
emergency
declaration
ended
in
june.
In
june,
we
were
on
a
downward
trajectory.
We
were
approaching
a
seven
day
average
in
the
teens
per
100
000
cases
over
a
seven
day,
average
right
now
as
of
november
7th.
So
there's
a
there's
about
a
seven
day
lag
a
six
day
lag.
F
When
we
look
at
this
a
little
bit
more
granular
in
bloomington,
we
are
seeing
increases
in
every
age
group
of
note.
The
state
talked
about
today
that
one
of
the
drivers
of
continued
outbreaks
are
especially
youth,
athletics
and
approximately
10
percent
of
of
cases
in
that
youth
age
population
are
associated
with
athletics,
while
our
athletic
programs
are
doing
phenomenal
work
and
many
of
them
have
spent
countless
hours
doing
preparedness
plans
and
strategies
to
keep
their
youth
athletes
safe.
Just
like
our
school
districts
have
to
keep
our
students
safe.
F
F
We
continue
to
see
that
disproportional
impact
in
our
our
bipot
community.
It's
most
pronounced
right
now
in
our
latino
or
hispanic
community,
we're
also
seeing
that
increase
in
our
black
non-hispanic
and
our
white
non-hispanic
communities.
It
is
growing
in
every
facet
of
our
society,
every
age,
every
race
and
ethnicity.
F
F
Just
the
same
way
we're
seeing
that
impact
our
school
and
other
business
operations.
The
higher
the
community
spread
is
the
more
challenging
it
is
to
operate
in
the
way
we
have
been
with
our
robust
coba
covid
plans.
In
the
past,
things
are
rapidly
getting
worse
and
they're
going
to
need
swift
action
at
the
state
level
and
at
the
local
level
to
control
the
spread
as
we
move
into
holidays,
where
we
expect
accelerated
growth
as
people
travel
and
gather
indoors
with
family
members.
In
the
coming
weeks.
E
Thank
you
nick.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
I
think
at
this
point
it's
fine
to
turn
it
over
for
questions.
If
the
council
has
any
and
staff
can
address
those
before
considering
the
action.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I'm
just
wondering
you
know.
I
know
that
the
the
result
that
that
covet
has
had
sort
of
we,
dr
kelly,
talked
about
it
in
terms
of
the
broader
community,
but
I'm
wondering
if
jamie,
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
the
direct
impact
to
how
the
city
of
bloomington
has
or
can
provide
services
at
that
coven.
D
The
effect
that
that
covet
has
had
on
that,
because
I
think
that
also
very
much
relates
to
this
discussion.
E
Sure,
thank
you,
council,
member
coulter,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
One
of
the
one
of
the
facts
is
that
we're
experiencing
this,
just
like
the
general
population,
at
least
the
city
employees
are,
and
so
we
have
a
number
of
staff
who
are
either
testing
positive
or
are
in
quarantine
periods
because
of
potential
exposure.
E
E
So
one
of
the
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we're
very
attentive
here
is
being
able
to
manage
through
from
a
staff
perspective
and
make
sure
that
we're
covering
the
needs
throughout
the
community.
The
frankly,
though,
the
one
that
is
concerning
to
me
for
the
resident
experience
is
the
customer
service
we're
able
to
provide
in
the
city
buildings.
If,
if
we
don't
have
the
folks
who
can
handle
the
walk-up
traffic,
that's
one
of
those
issues
that
would
cause
us
to
look
at
our
operating
hours
or
our
accessibility
to
the
public.
E
Until
we
can
assure
that
we
have
some
staffing
predictability
and
then
obviously
the
other
departments
are
continuing
to
manage
and
monitor
to
make
sure
that
we
have
staffing
and
public
safety
and
public
works
to
adequately
deliver
service.
We
haven't
seen
it
get
to
what
I
would
say
is
a
crisis
stage
yet,
but
we
certainly
are
concerned
with
with
some
of
the
numbers
that
we're
seeing
right
now.
Does
that
answer
your
question?
Councilmember
coulter.
D
Yes,
thank
you
and
I
I
have
some
other
thoughts
I
should
I
would
like
to
share,
but
I
think
some
other
folks
may
have
questions
so
I
can
hold
up.
C
So
then
yeah
one
question
that
I
have
just
for
the
general
public
city
managers.
Just
let
folks
know
kind
of
what
powers
this
allows
you
and
the
mayor
to
kind
of
do.
Just
generally,
some
folks
are
not
exactly
clear
as
to
what
what
this
means
in
terms
of
when
we
pass
this.
I
know
we
did
this
in
the
past,
but
it's
been
quite
so
many
months
ago.
So
if
you
could
just
give
a
kind
of
a
brief
overview
of
what
this
means
and
what
impact
this
has.
E
Thank
you,
council,
member
lowman,
mayor
and
council
members.
The
the
effect
of
the
declaration
is
to
actually
initiate
the
the
emergency
management
plan
for
the
city
and
in
circumstances
like
these.
E
The
authority
that's
given
to
the
city,
manager
and
or
the
emergency
manager
is
to
be
able
to
move
more
expeditiously
as
necessary
if
there
are
needs
to
acquire
things
that
normally
we'd
have
to
go
through
some
sort
of
a
competitive
bidding
process
or
something
along
those
lines.
E
It
also
allows
the
city
manager
to
be
flexible
with
things
like
human
resources
policies
and
then,
frankly,
just
the
decision
making
regarding
facilities
and
our
operating
posture
and
the
hours
of
availability
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
meet
the
expectations
of
the
residents
as
we
did
before.
E
C
Thank
you
mayor
and
us
city
manager.
I
think
that
if,
if
folks
were
to
go
back
and
look
at
that
process
in
which
we
followed
before,
which
gives
me
complete
confidence
in
this
process
moving
forward,
I
don't
remember
there
being
anything.
We
had
serious
questions
about
during
that
period
of
time
and
I
I
think
we
should
feel
confident
being
able
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
this
current
declaration.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Councilmember
lohmann
I'd,
seen
similar
questions
on
social
media
and
heard
similar
questions
from
a
couple
of
folks,
but
mr
verbruge
hit
it
right
on
the
head.
Basically,
this
is,
it
allows
the
the
city
manager
and
our
emergency
operations
director
julie
seal
to
move
more
quickly
is
basically
what
it
does
in
terms
of
purchasing
notices
for
ordinances,
staffing
building
hours.
A
It
just
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
and
lets
us
be
more
nimble
and
to
react
more
quickly
when,
when,
when
issues
arise
and
and
to
react
more
quickly
and
more
effectively
and
appropriately,
without
necessarily
going
through
the
the
regular
channels
of
a
two-week
posting
or
the
information
that
has
to
get
out
and-
and
I
think,
you're
exactly
right,
councilmember
lohman-
we
saw
it.
E
Mr
mayor,
if
I
may
just
one
more
point
for
residents
who
may
be
wondering
if
what
we're
doing
is
is
outside
of
the
norm,
of
what
other
municipalities
are
doing
and
the
answer
to
that
is
is
squarely
not
the,
as
I
shared
with
the
council,
many
of
our
peer
cities
never
linked
off
their
emergency
declaration
or
allowed
it
to
lapse
that
they've
been
operating
under
that
declaration.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
don't
see
anybody
else
jumping
up
for
questions,
so
I
just
want
to
offer
a
few
thoughts,
and
you
know
we
I
mean
we've
all
seen
the
numbers
and
I
think
it's
really
really
easy
to
get
lost
in
numbers,
but
but
it's
clear
that
they
all
point
in
one
direction.
D
It's
bad
and
it's
only
going
to
get
worse,
and
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
watch
the
the
press
conference
today,
but
when
the
the
commissioner
of
the
minnesota
department
of
health
refers
to
something
as
terrifying.
Personally,
I
find
that
quite
terrifying.
D
D
D
This
declaration
does
provide
the
kind
of
authority
and
and
flexibility
to
respond
appropriately,
and
I
I
just
want
to
very
much
encourage
you
mayor
and
the
city
manager
and
chief
seal
to
not
be
afraid
to
do
so,
and
I
would
say
that,
even
aside
from
the
authority
granted
in
this
declaration,
I
think
we
as
a
city
council,
need
to
think
boldly
and
creatively
about
what
we
can
do
to
respond
to
this
crisis.
D
D
D
D
A
Comments:
councilmember
coulter,
oh
wait:
councilmember
carter
has
just
raised
her
hand,
councilmember
carter.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
jump
in
and
provide
a
couple
of
thoughts
of
my
own
and
I'll.
Keep
them
pretty
brief.
You
know
at
first.
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
my
heart
goes
out
to
the
people
who
have
been
impacted
in
our
community
and
beyond
whether
they've
lost
a
loved
one
or
they
are
suffering
from
the
symptoms,
the
consequences
of
coven
themselves.
G
I
also
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
has
been.
You
know.
Our
school
board
has
been
in
a
really
challenging
position
as
elected
officials
in
our
community
and
the
decisions
that
they're
making
about
you
know
whether
or
not
to
have
kids
in
school
and
school
sports
do
sports,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
my
as
a
parent
with
little
kids.
G
You
know
I
want
more
than
anything
for
my
kids
to
be
back
in
school
and
I
want
them
to
be
playing
sports
and
in
dance
class
and
all
of
that,
but
I
think
the
reality
is
that
we
know
we
have
to
really.
G
You
know
accept
right
now
as
a
community,
and
it's
so
so
hard
is
that
our
kids
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
go
back
to
school
until
we
get
this
community
spread
under
control,
and-
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
know
it's
really
hard
for
people-
and
I
know
I've
had
a
lot
of
parents
reaching
out
to
me
directly
about
you,
know,
frustrations
and
concerns.
You
know
whether
they
think
kids
should
be
in
school
or
should
not
go
back
to
school
until
this
pain
we
have
a
vaccine.
G
You
know
people
are
all
over
the
board,
and
so
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
to
acknowledge
that,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor
for
bringing
this
declaration
back
up,
because
it
is
critical
now
more
than
ever,
and
you
know,
as
somebody
who's
been
directly
impacted,
I
can
tell
you
that
this
this
disease,
this
virus,
is
it's
so
unpredictable
and
we
don't
know
what
it's
gonna
really
do
and
how
it's
gonna
impact
individuals
and
families
in
our
community,
and
so
with
that.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
will
move
to
approve
a
resolution
providing
city
council
consent
to
mayoral
declaration
2020-3
of
a
local
emergency,
extending
the
local
emergency
and
authorizing
certain
actions.
B
A
Aye
motion
carries
7-0.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
that,
and
thank
you
to
our
staff,
who
are
who
are
moving
forward
with
this
and
we'll
take
this
on,
and
I
know
we
do
have.
We
have
some
challenges
ahead
of
us
as
a
community.
We
have
challenges
ahead
of
us
as
a
city
and
individually
and
personally,
we
all
have
challenges
as
well.
A
It's
going
to
be
a
difficult
60
to
90
days
here
in
the
united
states,
certainly
in
the
state
of
minnesota
here
in
bloomington
and
as
council
member
coulter
said
it
it's
going
to
come
back
to
all
of
us
to
to
take
the
actions
necessary
to
get
this
under
control,
and
so,
let's,
let's
work
together,
we're
all
in
this
together.
Let's
work
together
to
get
this
under
control.
A
With
that
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
3.2
on
our
agenda,
which,
if
you
tuned
in
early,
we
had
amended
the
agenda
and
we
moved
up
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
recommendation
and
budget
discussion.
We
moved
that
up
from
item
3.3
to
item
3.2,
and
so
we
have
kyrie
carlson
here
from
our
our
budget
office
and
mr
fabregi
and
opening
thoughts
or
comments
on
this.
As
we
kick
off
this
discussion.
E
Yes,
please,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
and
council
members
this
evening.
We
are
going
to
present
again
to
the
council
and
to
community
members
who
have
been
tracking
this,
where
we
stand
in
going
into
the
2021
budget
year,
as
as
everyone
in
the
in
the
council
meeting
understands.
E
But
I
want
to
make
sure
folks
who
are
watching
also
are
aware
that
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
when
we
identified
the
financial
challenges
ahead,
both
for
2020
and
then
for
2021
budget,
the
decision
was
made
in
may
to
appoint
a
community
budget
advisory
committee.
That
would
work
with
the
staff
and
present
options
for
budget
reductions
to
the
city
council
to
make
sure
that
the
important
voice
of
the
community
is
reflected
in
some
very
difficult
decisions
that
we
know
that
the
council
and
the
city
are
facing.
E
Tonight
is
the
opportunity
to
have
discussion
amongst
the
council
about
those
options
and
also
to
give
staff
direction
on
the
tax
levy,
but
the
council's
desire
is,
as
we
go
into
the
2021
budget
and
then
certainly
talk
beyond
2021
as
well.
E
If
there
are
questions
about
what
these
budgeting
decisions
mean
for
the
future,
so
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
have
our
budget
manager
kari
carlson
walk
through
where
we
stand
today
as
we
go
into
2021,
and
then
I
will
come
back
at
the
end
of
her
presentation
and
we'll
turn
it
over
to
the
mayor
to
facilitate
that
conversation
amongst
the
city.
Council.
Sorry.
H
So
what
I'm
going
to
go
over
is
some
information
that
was
in
the
agenda
packet
and
highlight
some
items
that
were
in
that
packet
about
the
general
fund
budget
model
and
the
tax
levy
for
21
and
22,
and
we
have
three
different
items
that
are
shown
before
the
budget
reductions.
And
then
we
just
use
scenario
a
to
just
show
you
if
you
just
took
scenario
a
the
way
that
the
committee
presented
it.
H
So
what
I
have
here
is
it
is
in
the
packet,
I
think
also.
You
should
have
hard
copies
as
well.
There's
a
lot
going
on
on
this
budget
model.
But
what
I
would
like
to
highlight
is
just
just
to
kind
of
walk
you
through
it.
H
It
shows
the
2019
actuals
the
revenues
on
the
top
and
the
expenses
on
the
bottom
for
the
general
fund,
and
it
has
the
2020
original
budget
and
then
to
the
right
of
that
is
the
2020
revised
budget,
and
those
revisions
mainly
are
with
the
anything
that
was
carried
over
that
wasn't
spent
in
2019
that
was
approved
by
the
council
or
encumbrances
on
purchase
orders
that
were
open
at
the
end
of
2019
that
rolled
over.
H
Then
we
have
our
2020
estimated,
that's
based
on
the
the
last
monthly
financial
report
that
was
put
together,
and
then
we
have
the
2021
budget
and
what
this
is
on.
This
model
is
before
any
of
the
reductions
have
come
in,
and
what
I'd
like
to
highlight
on
here
is
what
we're
using
for
the
admissions
tax
and
lodging
tax
revenue
that
we've
been
talking
about,
how
that's
significantly
reduced
from
what
it
usually
is.
H
But
we
are
getting
information
from
industry
experts
like
the
smith,
travel
report
and
hotel
evaluation
services
and
plus
all
the
information
that
we're
getting
in
monthly,
with
our
lodging
and
emission
tax
returns
and
have
different
scenarios
of
21
22,
23
and
24,
where
we
think
it's
going
to
take
that
long
to
get
back
to
pre-pandemic
levels
and
what
we're
focusing
the
budget
on
and
what
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
recommended
is
using
that
slow
recovery,
so
not
looking
at
a
quick
recovery
or
even
moderate,
but
a
very
slow
recovery
for
that
coming
back
and
that's
what
we
have
plugged
into
the
model
into
the
budget
and
I'll
also
point
out,
if
you
are
comparing
an
expenses
for
the
2020
budget
to
the
which
is
the
2020
original
budget
to
the
2021
budget,
a
lot
of
the
departments
came
in
already
under
what
the
2020
budget
was.
H
We
don't
we
do
have
wherever
possible,
we
had
wage
freezes
for
the
2021
budget,
where
you'll
see
some
increases
like,
for
example,
in
police.
Some
public
works
for
police,
that
is
mainly
they,
the
police
officers
union
and
the
police
supervisors
union.
Those
contracts
were
settled
for
their
2021
contract
for
the
pandemic,
so
they
do
have
some
increases
for
that
and
then
the
next
slide.
H
This
is
where
it
has
the
whole
property
tax
levy
laid
out
so
for
2020,
the
total
property
tax
levy,
the
total
dollar
amount
that
was
levied
was
64.7
million
and
a
large
part
of
that
is
what
goes
to
the
general
fund
for
operations.
But
then
there's
some
other
funds
as
well.
That
do
require
property
tax
support
that
are
laid
out
there
and
then
also
for
our
debt
service
that
we
have
to
pay.
H
We
have
an
amount
that
we
love
you
for
that
as
well,
and
this
is
what
it
looked
like
with
the
initial
budget
reductions
and
some
of
this
kind
of
moves
around
a
little
bit
depending
on
how
things
you
know,
change
as
we're
working
through
the
budget
for
the
year.
H
Also
I'll
say,
our
our
slow
recovery
for
lodging
tax
has
gotten
a
little
worse
from
earlier
in
the
year,
and
so
that's
kind
of
that's
reflected
in
here
as
well,
and
so
if
we
did
not,
if
the
the
preliminary
tax
levy,
of
course
is
five
percent,
so
that's
the
most
it
could
be.
But
this
is
what
it
looks
like
before
any
of
the
reductions
are
taken.
H
It
would
be
a
7.45
and
then
based
on
what
happened
with
home
valuations
that
the
2021
tax
levy
is
going
to
be
based
on
that's
actually,
it's
a
6.58
increase
for
the
median
value
home
and
then
in
the
bottom
right
corner.
It
shows
the
dollar
amounts
that
are
going
to
be
necessary
to
get
to
the
tax
levy,
increase
that
the
council
wishes
to
levy,
and
so,
for
example,
the
5
is
the
highest
it
could
be.
H
That
was
what
the
preliminary
was
said
at
that
that
gap
there
is
a
1,
584,
000
reduction
and
just
carrying
that
forward.
Again.
This
is
without
any
budget
reductions.
So
this
isn't
going
to
be
the
scenario
that
we
end
up
with,
but
just
to
show
you
where
we're
starting
from
this
next
slide.
Has
the
2022
projected
tax
levy.
So
there's
a
lot
of
assumptions
in
here.
H
One
thing:
that's
different
than
what
was
published
in
the
packet
on
friday
is
the
debt
service
number
I
had
a.
I
was
a
little
too
optimistic
on
the
debt
service
and
I
had
that
flat
for
2022,
but
actually
more
accurate
projection
is
that's
going
to
be
400,
000
higher,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
what
with
what
assessing
is
looking
at
for
the
assessed
values
in
january
of
21,
which
the
2022
tax
levy
will
be
based
on
with
the
increase
that
is
expected
with
the
residential
values
and
decreases
in
commercial.
H
Even
if
we
have
a
tax
levy,
decrease
of
1.48
percent
in
2022,
the
median
value
home
could
see
a
seven
percent
increase.
So
that's
something
we
want
to
share
with
you,
and
we've
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
before
about,
what's
going
to
happen
in
2022
that
we
can
start
talking
about
now.
H
So
these
are
all
before
any
budget
reductions,
and
this
is
these
next
three
slides.
It's
just
what
I
just
very
similar.
What
I
just
showed
you,
but
it's
going
to
have
what
it
looks
like
when
we
take
one
of
the
scenarios
from
the
committee
that
was
presented.
So
I
just
took
scenario
a
which
was
a
five
percent
tax
levy
and
the
only
thing
that's
changed
on
this
sheet
is
in
the
column,
the
2021
budget.
H
Here's
that
slide,
that
shows
all
of
the
property
tax
levy,
and
you
can
see
it's
not
just
a
reduction
in
the
general
fund
with
what
the
committee
proposed
in
the
5
the
scenario,
a
budget
scenario
that
a
motor
vehicle
would
be
closed
and
so
that
there
wouldn't
be
a
tax
levy,
an
amount
on
the
tax
levy
that's
allocated
to
motor
vehicle.
There
would
be
some
changes
in
communications
that
would
come
down.
75
000.
H
There
would
be
some
additional
things
for
aquatics,
so
you
can
see
that
where
I
took
all
of
the
budget
reductions
that
were
suggested
and
worked
it
through
the
model,
and
so
it
gets
us.
It's
not.
You
know
exactly
5,
but
it's
a
little
bit
under
5
and
then
how
that
carries
through
some
of
the
budget
reduction.
Ideas
that
are
presented
are
just
for
21
and
some
are
more
permanent
and
would
carry
on
to
2022..
H
So
I
worked
that
through
2022
as
well-
and
this
is
what
that
projection
looks
like.
So
it's
more
of
a
it's
closer
to
zero
for
2022,
for
a
tax
limit
change,
but
again
because
of
the
changes
we're
looking
at
what
assessing
is
saying
for
the
residential.
It's
an
eight
percent
increase.
H
And
then
these
next
slides
here
is
this
is
a
review.
This
is
a
slide
from
when
co-chairs,
steve,
peterson
and
neal
peterson
presented
the
final
report
from
the
committee,
and
these
are
the
three
scenarios
and
just
to
show
you
that
the
scenario-
a
was
a
five
percent
tax
levy.
Increase
b
was
a
three
percent
tax
levy,
increase
and
c
was
zero
percent,
so
no
no
tax
levy
increase
and
they
kind
of
they
build
on
each
other.
H
So
the
items
that
are
suggested
for
budget
reductions
that
are
in
a
would
also
be
in
b
and
then
a
and
b
would
be
in
c,
and
this
splits
out
the
amounts
between
the
different
departments
and,
as
you
can
see
at
the
bottom,
how
they
add
up
is
it's
1.6
million,
it's
narrow
a
and
then
you
add
an
additional
1.3
million
if
scenario
b,
so
that's
2.9
million
in
reductions
and
then
scenario
c
with
zero
percent
tax
levy
increase
is
4.8
million,
and
then
these
are
in
your
packets
as
well.
H
But
this
is
that
list
and
it
is
prioritized
how
the
committee
prioritized
it
so
meaning
that
the
one
at
the
very
top
is
the
one
that
they
would
recommend
cutting
first
and
then
it
just
goes
down
from
there,
and
so
when
it
hit
the
amounts
at
the
time
when
we're
trying
to
hit
the
five
percent
tax
levy
and
the
three
percent
and
zero.
H
H
But
that's
that's
how
it's
laid
out
and
then
there
are
some
items
that
they
looked
at,
that
they
didn't
want
to
include
for
different
reasons
at
all,
but
they're
still
on
the
list
for
you
to
see.
So
that
was
what
I
had
just
to
kind
of
go
over
and
review
and
highlight
some
things
there.
Any
questions
about
that
or
I
can
turn
it
over
to
city
manager,
to
talk
about
the
tax.
A
Council
questions
specific
to
kari's
presentation,
as
opposed
to
the
the
overall
discussion
that
we're
going
to
be
having
here
shortly
any
questions
specific
to
the.
E
E
One
of
the
there
you
go
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
point
out
and
emphasize
of
what
kari
said
is
you'll
see
where
that
dividing
line
is,
and
you
know,
option
number
79
is
above
the
line,
option
number
1881,
which
was
the
same
ranking
in
according
to
the
committee.
You
know,
why
is
that
part
of
scenario
b?
E
If
you
look
over
at
the
right
side
on
that
cumulative
amount,
what
the
committee
tried
to
do
was
to
sort
the
options
based
on
the
dollar
target
to
get
to
that
level
of
reduction,
so
that
1.5
roughly
matches
the
reduction
necessary
to
get
to
the
five
percent,
as
does
down
the
road
when
you
get
to
2.9
matching
the
three
percent.
So
if
somebody's
looking
at
this
and
saying
why
is
something
that's
ranked
the
same
above
the
line
or
below
the
line?
E
It's
because
of
the
number
that
the
committee
was
trying
to
achieve
in
getting
to
their
targets.
If
you
could
go
forward,
two
slides,
please
carry.
E
So
I
just
want
to
share
with
the
council
where
we're
at
on
the
tax
levy
is
budget
manager,
said
council
said
preliminary
levy
at
five
percent.
We
cannot
go
above
that
number
for
coming
for
the
coming
year.
Pay
21
it's
based
on
the
median
value
home
of
286
is
what
we
use
to
demonstrate:
that's
less
than
a
one
percent
valuation
increase
from
the
year
before,
because
we
had
a
a
stable
valuation
year
in
our
residential
assessment.
E
And
if
you
go
down
the
left
column,
what
you
see
are
the
different
taxing
jurisdictions,
so
the
city,
the
county,
the
school
district
and
that
other
line
item
is
for
taxing
jurisdictions,
such
as
the
metropolitan
council.
Three
rivers
parks
district,
mosquito
control
district,
a
number
in
other,
smaller
districts
that
are
all
bundled
together.
E
This
is
this
is
trying
to
approximate,
but
somebody
who
has
a
home,
that
is
that
median
value
would
see
on
their
truth
and
taxation
statement
which
just
started
getting
mailboxes
over
the
weekend.
E
So,
at
a
five
percent
levy,
this
for
the
city,
you
can
see
where
it
is
three
dollars
and
41
cents
for
the
median
value
home
as
a
monthly
change.
Now
the
property
tax
statement
is
not
just
for
the
city,
it's
for
all
the
taxing
jurisdictions,
so
you
see
that
the
county
had
a
zero
percent
levy.
School
district
had
a
2.8
percent
preliminary
levy,
so
the
county
will
be
going
down
about
six
bucks
a
month.
The
school
district
is
slightly
up
a
little
over
a
dollar
a
month.
The
other
jurisdictions
are
down.
E
So
if
you
get
to
that
line
where
it
says
total
with
city
at
five
percent,
the
median
value
home
will
be
paying
less
in
2021
than
they
did
in
2020
by
about
who
are
not
homeowners
but
our
renters,
and
so
for
many
renters
that
property
tax
that's
levied
on
the
the
apartment
property,
the
owner
or
the
manager
of
that
property
often
just
passes
through
those
property
taxes
in
the
form
of
rent
to
tenants.
E
So
we're
trying
to
be
mindful
there,
the
the
difference
between
the
median
value
home,
the
median
value
apartment
is,
if
you
go
up
to
the
top
where
it
says
versus
prior
year.
It's
the
valuation
change
in
those
two
property
classifications
where
the
median
value
home
was
stable,
going
from
20
to
21,
the
median
value
apartment
increased
pretty
substantially
in
value
by
about
seven
percent.
E
So
if
you
go
back
down
to
the
bottom
again,
the
total,
with
city
at
five
or
with
at
three
or
zero,
are
the
three
different
levy
numbers
that
the
cbac,
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
was
considering,
and
so
you
can
see
that
in
any
of
the
three
scenarios
based
on
all
taxing
jurisdictions,
the
median
value
home
will
experience
a
reduction
in
property
taxes
for
20
all
right.
E
All
right
and
then
on
this
chart,
I
just
wanted
to
first
of
all
thank
our
assessing
shop.
They
put
together
great
information
for
us,
our
city,
assessor
and
his
team,
and
what
you
see
on
the
bar
chart
is
just
the
visualization
of
how
many
homeowners
are
in
the
different,
segmented
impact
areas
for
property
taxes.
So
the
the
blue
bars
are
single
family
residential.
E
What
what
you
see
in
this
bar
chart
is
that
about
56
of
single-family
residential
property
taxpayers
will
actually
be
paying
less
in
2021
than
they
did
in
2020,
and
then
you
can
see
that
the
there's
about
30
percent
of
homeowners
that
would
have
somewhere
between
a
zero
to
a
five
percent
increase,
a
relatively
modest
increase
and
then
obviously,
as
you
get
into
the
higher
increase,
that
number
gets
smaller
you'll
see
that
the
commercial
and
industrial
values
largely
were
stable,
which
reflected
is
reflected
in
the
concentration
of
ci
properties
being
either
just
above
or
just
below
zero
percent
and
again
the
the
impact
going
into
2021
used
to
apartment
properties
as
they
had
the
strongest
valuation
growth
for
the
year.
E
E
You
know
an
idea
of
what
it
means
for
their
property
taxes,
because
every
single
property
is
different.
It's
it's
valued
at
a
different
amount.
It
changes
value
at
a
different
percentage,
so
it's
not
possible
for
us
to
say
to
any
individual
taxpayer
here.
This
is
what's
going
to
happen,
so
we
use
the
median
value
home
as
as
the
best
way
to
approximate
the
impact,
but
what
this
bar
chart
effectively
does
is
show
that
the
majority
of
residents
will
see
a
reduction
in
their
property
taxes
in
2021
on
their
truth
and
taxation
statement.
E
With
that,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
I
will
pause
and
turn
it
back.
If
you
have
any
questions
on
this
information
or
if
you
want
to
jump
into
the
discussion
happy
to
answer
questions
as
we
go.
Thank
you.
A
Let's
start
with
the
questions
specific
to
the
presentation
that
we
just
heard
what
mr
verbruge
just
said
and
then
we'll
get
into
our
bigger
discussion
here.
In
just
a
moment,
councilmember
lohmann.
C
So,
just
briefly
tonight,
I'm
suspecting
you
won't
have
an
answer
for
this,
mr
manager,
when
we
look
at
that
2022
that
the
median
value
home
you
know
you
showed
us
what
was
for
the
20
20
21
information,
any
speculation
in
terms
of
what
that
would
look
like
if
we
had
the
five,
the
the
three
and
the
zero
chart
at
all.
E
E
At
this
point,
we
can
certainly
plug
that
in
and
bring
that
information
back
and
and
most
likely
will
when
we
have
a
better
sense
of
where
we're
going
to
land
this
year,
as
as
our
budget
manager
said
even
from
friday,
when
the
packet
went
out
to
monday,
we
have
some
changes,
and
so
this
late
in
the
year
as
we're
getting
final
numbers
getting
closer
to
resolution,
we're
feeling
better
and
more
confident
about
the
specific
numbers.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I'm.
This
is
not
something
I
know
you'll
have
on
at
the
tip
of
your
fingers
now,
but
would
it
be
possible
that
that
chart
showing
how
many
households
see
certain
percentage
that
one
would
it
be
possible
to
get
that
for
previous
years,
because
I
think
that
kind
of
information
would
be
really
helpful
to
kind
of,
as
I'm
talking
to
folks,
to
sort
of
be
able
to
compare
things
in
terms
of
the
the
changes
that
we
see
in
levies
and
that
kind
of
thing.
G
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
am
curious.
You
know
for
the
people
who
are
watching
at
home,
who
don't
have
this
information
or
maybe
haven't
heard
this
information?
Can
you
talk
about
why
the
city
is
having
having
to
consider
such
larger
levy
increases
than
compared
to
the
school
district
in
the
county?
Sure
I
think
it's
helpful
information
for
for
people
who
are
watching.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council
member
carter
and
cary
carlson
referred
to
this
during
her
presentation
as
well.
Kari.
We
go
back
one
slide,
so
what
council
member
carter
is
asking
is:
why
is
it
that
the
county
can
do
a
preliminary
levy
of
zero
percent?
The
school
district
can
do
2.8
percent,
and
meanwhile
the
city
has
started
with
a
5
preliminary
levy.
E
The
reason
is
that
the
three
taxing
jurisdictions
have
a
very
different
set
of
revenues.
The
city
of
bloomington
has
about
13
percent
of
its
revenues,
pre-pandemic
that
came
via
lodging
taxes
and
admissions
taxes.
Those
are
revenues
that
are
generated
by
business
activity
at
the
what
was
then
47
hotels,
currently
46
hotels
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
as
well
as
entertainment,
venues
at
mall
of
america
and
other
locations.
E
So
when
the
when
the
pandemic
caused
those
businesses
to
shut
down
and
dramatically
curtailed
the
number
of
people
who
were
either
staying
in
those
properties
or
visiting
those
properties,
the
city
has
a
declining
revenue
as
a
result
going
into
2021.
We
are
not
anticipating
that
those
revenues
are
going
to
recover
the
revenues
that
are
tied
to
the
lodging
industry
and
the
retail
and
entertainment
hospitality
industries
are
directly
related
to
the
economy
as
it's
affected
by
the
pandemic.
E
So
our
our
financial
modeling
team
has
been
every
week
meeting
to
track,
what's
going
on
around
the
country
and
in
our
own
state
and
even
in
our
own
city
as
it
pertains
to
you,
know,
foot
traffic
and
visitors
and
sales
and
economic
activity
to
try
and
forecast
what
those
revenues
may
be.
We
are
using
a
slow
recovery
model
right
now.
E
We
had
three
models
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
that
were
regularly
adjusted
based
on
the
data
and
because
of
where
we're
at
in
the
current
stage
of
the
pandemic,
the
expectation
for
when
a
a
vaccine
may
be
commercially
available
and
accessible
for
the
vast
majority
of
the
population
and
when
life
can
sort
of
begin
to
return
to
something
resembling
normal.
E
Now
the
county
does
not
have
those
kinds
of
revenues
as
a
significant
contributor
to
its
budget
and
the
reductions
that
the
county
made,
as
I
understand
it,
in
their
to
get
to
their
preliminary
levy
and
in
their
budgeting,
was
significantly
reducing
capital
expenditures
with
the
school
district,
they
have
a
a
heavily
prescribed
revenue
system
by
state
law,
and
so
there
is,
there
are
very
few
outside
influencers
that
aren't
controlled
by
the
state
in
some
manner,
unless
it
is
the
variability
in
the
per
pupil,
the
numbers
of
people,
because
it's
largely
a
per
pupil
formula,
so
that
I
think
is
the
biggest
difference
between
the
taxing
jurisdictions
is
that
we've
got
13
percent
of
our
of
our
budget.
E
The
revenues
in
our
budget
that
are
more
volatile
because
of
the
larger
pandemic
economy
than
the
other
jurisdictions
council.
Member
carter.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
I
Nelson
thank
you
mayor,
I'd
just
like
to
follow
up
with
that
question
and
see
if
the
city
manager
can
also
talk
to
the
expenditure
or
cost
side
of
things,
obviously
we're
taking
a
hit
on
the
revenue
side,
but
I
just
think
it's
important
for
people
to
understand
that
at
all
of
these
levees,
even
though
it
talks
about
an
increase,
actual
city
spending
is
going
down.
And
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
to
that
point?.
E
Mr
brookie,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
council
member
nelson
kari.
If
you
would
go
back
to
the
long
term
model
before
the
budget
reductions,
this
is
the
sheet
that
has
really
small
numbers
on
it.
So
I
apologize
to
everybody
right
away
if
you're,
if
you're,
watching
on
a
device-
and
you
go
over
to
the
left,
you
should
be
able
to
zoom
in
on
this
a
little
bit
before.
E
Before
we
even
considered
the
reductions
that
were
being
suggested
and
ranked
by
the
community
budget
advisory
committee,
the
city
staff
in
preparing
their
departmental
budgets,
already
made
a
significant
number
of
decisions
to
get
to
a
starting
point.
So
if
you
look
in
the
expenses
portion
of
that
car,
you
can
use
your
cursor
to
sort
of
just
circle
around
that
area
yeah.
E
So
what
you
see
from
the
2020
budget
that
column
to
the
2021
budget
is
that
most
of
those
line,
items
which
are
the
departments,
city,
council,
administration,
legal
finance,
police
finance,
fire
community
development,
with
the
exception
of
police
and
public
works
and
and
city
council,
it's
a
minor
increase,
but
for
the
police
and
public
works
of
the
only
two
departments
where
you
see
an
increase,
although
you
will
note
in
community
services,
there's
an
increase,
that's
related
to
public
health
funding.
I
I
I
I
think
it's
just
important
for
people
to
understand
that
the
discussion
we'll
probably
have
going
forward
is
about
how
far
how
deep
to
cut
expenditures
that
there
has
not
been
a
conversation
about
raising
our
expenditures.
At
the
city
level.
We
started
kind
of
at
zero
and
are
working
down
from
there
recognizing
the
situation
that
the
people
and
businesses
in
our
community
are
in.
A
A
So
I
wanted
to
try
and
put
a
little
a
little
framework
around
it.
Trying
to
get
our
discussion
started
again
with
with
with
some
framework
with
some
kind
of
directed
questions,
so
we
can
try
and
start
to
sort
through
all
this
from
each
of
our
perspectives
and
to
figure
out
where
we're
going
with
the
ultimate
goal
to
to
get
to
the
goals
that
I
just
talked
about.
The
things
that
I
just
talked
about,
we've
got
to
get
to.
A
We've
got
to
give
staff
direction
on
the
2021
final
levy
and
talk
about
potential
budget
cuts
to
get
there.
So
I
just
want
to
start
the
conversation
and
throw
it
out
and
see
where
it
takes
us.
I
want
to
know
what
what
stands
out
council,
what
stands
out
to
you
when
you
look
at
the
community
budget
advisory
community
commission
scenarios,
what
what
stands
out?
What
jumps
off
the
page
at
you
when
you!
When
you
look
at
those
different
scenarios,
that
the
cbac
brought.
A
I
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
I'll
jump
in
there.
I
first
of
all
just
want
to
thank
the
committee
and
the
staff
for
the
amount
of
work
that
they
did
to
provide
these
scenarios
and
the
thoughts
and
the
ranking,
and
everything
like
that.
I
think
it's
been
well
done.
They
did
what
we
asked.
I
will
be
honest
that
that,
in
my
mind,
it's
it's
kind
of
a
struggle
in
terms
of
do
we
stick
with
what
the
recommendations
are?
How
much
do
we
tweak
those?
We
asked
them
to
do
something
they
did
it.
I
They
did
good
work.
They
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
that
versus
kind
of
jumping
into
and
trying
to
modify
it
after
the
fact
or
redo
it,
which
is
one
of
my
concerns
of
just
totally
redoing
what
they've
done,
but
I
think
they've
given
us
a
good
guideline.
My
my
senses
will
probably
make
a
determination
of
where
to
fall,
and
then
you
know
maybe
make
some
tweaks
and
modifications.
I
J
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
yeah
I'll
echo
councilmember
nelson's
appreciation
for
the
committee's
work,
but
also
I
want
to
give
a
huge
shout
out
to
staff
in
particular
not
only
to
be
trying
to
crunch
the
numbers
on
what
the
budget
trajectory
for
the
city
would
look
like
in
a
crisis
like
this
regardless,
but
then
to
kind
of
also
be
facilitating
and
leading
this
whole
new
approach
to
the
budget
process
at
the
same
time
is
pretty
cool
at
that
kind
of
the
10
000
foot
level,
I'm
sure
we'll
get
into
nitty
gritty
later
a
little
bit
later
on.
J
I
I
acknowledge,
and
I'm
excited
to
see
that
the
majority
of
homeowners
in
the
community
are
going
to
see
an
overall
decrease.
But
after
I
guess
in
my
time
on
council,
it
seems
like
the
recurring
theme
has
really
been
housing.
Affordability
and
to
see
that
there
are
still
substantial
increases
for
our
renters
in
the
communities
is
still
kind
of
troubling.
J
So
I
I
would
be
looking
to
just
personally
I'm
looking
more
at
the
scenario
b
range
right
now
and
again
not
to
to
get
too
nitty-gritty,
but
bloomington
was
poised
to
lead
the
metro
area
in
envisioning
and
defining
and
moving
on
what
a
21st
century
suburb
could
look
like
before
this
all
hit
and
though
it's
kind
of
hard
to
picture
it.
Now,
we
will
be
in
that
position
again
when
this
is
all
behind
us.
So
I
don't
want
to
cut
off
our
legs
to
save
on
the
cost
of
shoes.
A
A
I'll
be
happy
to
share
what
stands
out
for
me
and
and
appreciate
again
the
work
that
the
cbac
did
and
the
information
that
they
did
bring
forward.
What
definitely
stands
out
is
you
look
at
the
different
scenarios,
the
zero
three
five
percent
increase,
just
how
real
these
cuts
get.
When
you
look
at
the
different
all
of
the
levels,
even
at
the
five
percent
tax
increase,
which
would
be
the
highest
increase
that
we
could
go.
A
There
are
significant
cuts
to
bloomington
services
that
will
affect
bloomington
residents
in
one
way
or
another
and
will
affect
bloomington
city
staff
and,
as
you
work
your
way
down
to
a
three
percent
increase
and
even
a
zero
percent
increase,
the
the
impacts
become
deeper,
they
become
more
acute,
they
become
more
obvious
and
they
will
affect
more
people
more
directly
in
in
many
more
ways,
and
it's
we
all
knew
that.
I
think
we
all
knew
that
we
understood
that
as
we
got
into
this
and
as
we've
talked
about
this
all
along.
A
But
we
knew
full
well
that
to
reduce
would
mean
impact
and
significant
impact
on
what
makes
bloomington
a
good
place
to
live,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
our
city
staff,
the
services
they
provide,
the
the
work
that
we
put
into
the
parks,
the
streets,
the
the
sidewalks
and
all
of
those
different
pieces
to
to
affect
a
budget
cut.
That
would
that
that
is,
that
may
be
necessary.
Here
is
going
to
impact
a
large
number
of
people,
a
significant
number
of
people
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
A
So
that's
what
stood
out
most
to
me
from
the
the
scenario
is
something
that
I
think
we
knew
all
along,
but
to
see
it
on
paper
like
this,
I
think,
is
a
pretty
jarring
look
council
member
coulter.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
wally.
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
you
said
and
I
just
to
sort
of
get
to
the
the
specifics
to
to
echo
council
member
martin,
the
the
community
development
director
position.
I
would
go
so
far
as
to
say
that
that
is
a
deal
breaker
for
me.
D
I
think,
with
everything
we
have
going
on
with
the
city
with
with
redevelopment
and
and
the
need
clearly
that
I
think
folks
in
the
community
see
for
revitalization
of
our
commercial
nodes
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
that's
just
an
example
of
something
that
I
I
think
we
need
to.
We
need
to
still
do.
I
would
also
just
say
that
that-
and
this
is
something
that
I
I
asked
the
co-chairs
about
at
the
previous
meeting-
you
know
the
the
things
on
this
list
that
we're
sort
of
that
are.
D
I
there
are
a
few
that
are
are
sort
of
money,
savers
for
lack
of
a
better
phrase
that
we're
just
sort
of
being
put
off
for
for
years
in
the
future.
I
think
now
is
the
time
for
a
lot
of
those
things,
but
you
know
to
sort
of
get
back
to
sort
of
a
10
000
foot
level.
D
You
know
I
said
already
in
just
my
three
years
on
the
council
more
times
than
I
can
count
that
budget
decisions
are
policy
decisions,
and
I
don't
you
know-
I
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
you,
but
the
phone
calls
and
the
emails
that
I've
gotten
from
residents
over
the
last
few
weeks,
even
frankly
in
the
last
few
days,
have
really
borne
that
out
to
mayor
to
the
echo
the
point
that
you
just
made.
D
We
are
seeing
right
before
our
very
eyes
right
now
that
the
budget
and
levy
discussions
that
are
decisions.
Excuse
me
the
decisions
that
we
make
don't
exist
in
a
vacuum
that
they
have
very
real,
tangible
effects
for
a
lot
of
people,
both
to
be
clear
both
in
terms
of
what
we
pay,
but
also
what
we
pay
for
and
before
I
get
too
far.
D
I
do
also
want
to
thank
the
budget
advisory
committee
and
and
staff
for
for
being
able
to
take
the
time
and
the
care
to
have
the
discussions
and
do
the
homework
and
I
think,
more
importantly,
making
it
all
accessible
to
folks.
D
I
can't
tell
you
how
it's
how
refreshing
it's
been
to
be
able
to
to
direct
folks
to
the
website
and
say
these
are
the
things
we're
thinking
about
this
is
these
are
the
things
we've
already
done,
so
I
hope
we
can
continue
that
kind
of
accessibility
and
transparency
moving
forward,
and
so
what
I
would
say
is
that
with
where
we
are
tonight,
I
guess
in
some
sense
it's
kind
of
what
I've
been
saying
all
along.
You
know.
D
I
think
we
are
absolutely
right
to
think
about
the
impact
that
property
taxes
are
going
to
have
on
folks,
it's
very
real
and
it
shouldn't
be
dismissed,
but
it's
not
just
a
simple
question
of
pay
more
or
less,
and
I
I
to
be
clear:
I'm
also
not
generally
fond
from
a
policy
perspective,
I'm
not
generally
fond
of
forcing
people
to
innovate
through
sort
of
arbitrary
cuts,
but
I
think,
if
that's
the
way
forward,
that
should
be
an
expectation
of
everyone,
not
just
a
few
departments.
D
So
you
know,
I'm
not
naive
enough
to
think
that
there
is
some
sort
of
magic
combination.
That's
going
to
satisfy
everyone.
Almost
everything,
that's
going
to
be
cut
is
important
to
someone
and
just
about
everyone
will
be
able
to
point
to
something
else
that
they'd
prefer.
D
So
I
guess
my
my
sort
of
take
on
it
is
not
necessarily
a
specific
number,
at
least
not
at
the
moment,
but
I
would
just
I
would
hate
for
us
to
be
penny
wise
and
pound
foolish
and
potentially
harm
our
long-term
goals.
For
the
sake
of
what
I
would
say
are
more
short-term
consequences
for
concern
to
keep
me
concerned,
sir.
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
and
just
for
everybody's
information.
I've
stopped
my
video
because
I
was
getting
too
much
garbling
of
the
other
council
members
comments
when
they
spoke,
so
that's
helped
and
cleared
up
that
issue,
so
I
will
be
running
without
video
for
the
rest
of
this
meeting.
K
K
The
second
is
creekside
funding
and,
lastly,
it's
a
combination
of
funding,
our
public
safety
department,
which
is
bloomington
police
and
bloomington
fire
council
member
coltier,
mentioned
that
there
are
things
that
we
value
and
on
may
18th
of
this
year.
K
K
We
already
know
that
there
is
some
cost
reduction
that
hasn't
been
addressed
by
the
committee
and
also
we
have
2021
for
highland
creek
funded
and,
while
we're
cutting
out
services
for
a
number
of
people,
we're
going
to
continue
to
fund
two
golf
courses.
I
think
that
I
find
that
problematic
and
cannot
support
that
and
to
fund
the
remainder
of
what
I'm
proposing.
K
I
am
proposing
that
we
rededicate
franchise
fees
that
go
aside.
You
know
into
a
reserve
fund
for
a
couple
features
they
go
in
there
for
a
pavement
management
program
and
they
go
in
for
trail
reconstruction
and
just
like
hennepin
county
achieve
their
budget
by
reducing
some
capital
items.
C
Thank
you,
I
think.
Well,
one
of
the
thank
you
mayor
for
your
your
question
that
you
asked
him.
I
think
that
when
I
look
at
these
particular
items,
what
comes
to
mind
is
what
I
think
one
of
the
co-chairs
said
during
our
last
meeting,
which
was
you
know
whatever
you
do,
what
can
you
explain
to
the
taxpayer
or
to
the
residents
in
bloomington,
and
so
I
kind
of
look
at
it.
Look
at
this
in
that
particular
fashion.
C
So,
first
off
I've
looked
at
this
in
terms
of
a
two-year
view.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
look
at
whatever
we
do
from
a
two-year
point
of
view.
Nothing
new.
C
I've
always
said
that
every
every
year
that
I've
come
to
this
budget
and
I
think
that's
an
important
principle
that
we
continue
to
look
at
next
is
core
services,
and
I
look
up
those
core
services
are
important
to
protect
those
in
terms
of
fire,
a
police,
and
I
also
place
health,
our
health
services,
as
a
part
of
that
that
course,
or
certainly
we're
seeing
that
this
year
and
then
number
three
would
be
duplicative
services.
C
So,
for
example,
golf
we've
got
two
different
golf
courses
and
we've
got
other
duplicate
services
out
there,
and
so
I'm
looking
at
those
to
see
what
makes
sense
kind
of
moving
forward
and
b,
I'm
looking
at
our
seven
council
priorities.
C
C
I
think
it's
a
poor
policy,
in
my
opinion,
to
try
to
cut
things
during
a
downturn
when
you
cannot
really
guarantee
that
you're
gonna
be
able
to
move
those
those
forward
and
I'm
not
gonna
repeat
what
councilmember
beloga
said,
but
I
think
he
those
those
items
that
he's
mentioned
really
is
there
and
really
where
it
needs
to
be.
So
those
are
the
five
kind
of
areas
there.
You
know
permanent
program
closures
that
can't
be
brought
back.
C
Seven
council
priorities,
duplicative
services,
the
core
services
that
we
have
in
the
two-year
view.
C
One
final
remark
that
I
want
to
make,
which
I
think
is
unfortunate,
is
that
I
remember
that
our
staff
had
said
I
don't
know
if
it
was
last
year
a
couple
years
ago.
One
of
the
things
that
they
thought
that
we
ought
to
do
is
really
be
focused
in
on
this
13.
C
This
lodging
and
admissions
fee,
because
there
may
be
some
problems
with
this
kind
of
going
forward
and
we
should
maybe
look
at
setting
up
our
rainy
day
fund
and
I
want
to
just
I
don't
know
who
that
was
on
staff
who
brought
that
up.
I
want
to
just
acknowledge
that
we
missed
that
it
came
up
and
we
we
didn't
talk
about
it.
C
We
didn't
bite
on
that
as
a
council,
and
that
is,
I
think,
an
opportunity
kind
of
going
forward
that
where
we
can
really
listen
to
what
staff
is
kind
of
saying
certainly
want
to
thank
our
our
our
budget
committee
that
we
started
and
for
the
great
work
that
they
have
done.
I
was
hoping
to
see
a
little
bit
more
in
regards
to
the
stuff
that
we
saw
tonight
and
I've
seen
some
great
stuff
in
the
past.
C
I
was
just
looking
at
our
2020
budget
notebook,
it's
a
big
huge
packet,
and
I
know
that
we'll
be
able
to
get
more
information
to
be
able
to
kind
of
move
these
priorities
forward.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
having
that
conversation
about
where
we
fall
between
the
five
and
the
zero
percent
as
we
move
forward,
but
those
five
principles
are
what
I'm
going
to
be
looking
at
kind
of
moving
forward.
G
G
For
many
of
the
reasons
that
my
colleagues
on
council
here
already
brought
up,
you
know,
I
think
that
we've
talked
so
much
about
being
a
community
of
choice,
and
I
think
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
that
is
that
still
needs
to
be
a
priority
for
us,
and
if
we
want
to
be
a
community
of
choice,
it
cannot
just
be
about
basic
city
services.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
still
prioritizing
our
parks
and
rec
our
natural
resources,
sustainability,
arts,
making
sure
that
we
are.
G
You
know,
we've
started
so
many
initiatives
around.
You
know
development
development
of
our
neighborhood
corridors.
I
think
you
know
eliminating
the
the
position,
the
the
leadership
position
in
our
community
development
department,
that
is
tasked
with
strategy
and
relationship
building,
and
it's
a
big
role
and
I
feel
like
it
would
be
a
really
big
mistake
for
us
to
to
eliminate
that
position.
Even
if
it's
you
know
a
temporary
over
a
year
or
two
I
also
have
concerns
about.
G
I
don't
know
what
the
full
sustainability
commission
budget
is,
but
with
climate
change
being
one
of
the
most
pressing
issues
facing
us
today,
I
think
it
it.
It
makes
me
feel
really
uncomfortable
to
eliminate.
G
What
I
would
assume
is
a
substantial
part
of
their
budget,
so
I
would
be
interested
in
knowing
how
much
of
that
it
is
when
I
was
reading
through
the
paperwork
it
sounded
like
there
was
concern
that
that
would
impact
our
our
our
goals
of
co2
emissions,
and
so
again,
I'm
not
I'm
not
super
on
board
with
eliminating
that
budget.
If
there's
going
to
be
significant
impacts
there
I
feel
like
over
and
over
again
throughout
the
years
I've
seen
climate
change
and
sustainability
be
treated
as
something
that's
a
nice
to
do.
G
But
it's
absolutely
crucial
and
should
be
one
of
our
top
priorities,
and
so
one
question
I
did
have
related
to
the
slides.
So
I
know
for
lower
income
homeowners
who
are
having
trouble
making
their
property
tax
payments.
I
know
that
there's
a
state
program
that
they
can
apply
for
and
I'm
curious
for.
You
know
multi-family
housing
owners.
If
you
know,
is
there
any
kind
of
program
being
made
available
to
them
that
could
help
offset
some
of
the
increased
costs
and
kind
of
mitigate
some
of
the
impact
to
renters.
G
I
know
if
I
recall
there
was
a
program
being
established
to
help
provide
some
sort,
some
support
for
the
multi-family
unit,
home
property
owners,
given
that
they're
also
experiencing
some
financial
hardship,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
an
answer
to
that
among
staff,
but
I
would
be
interested
in
knowing
that
I
mean
I
definitely
am
encouraged
by
the
fact
that
at
least
for
2021
that
property,
that
homeowners
won't
experience
or
the
majority
of
homeowners
won't
experience
a
significant
property
and
tax
increase.
G
But
you
know
I
do
worry
about
the
impact
on
the
40
of
renters
in
our
community.
So
I
guess
at
a
high
level,
that
is
what
I'm
thinking
and
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
go
into
more
details
too,
but
I
will
stop
there
for
now.
A
Do
you
have
anything
off
the
top
of
your
head
regarding
what
council
member
carter
brought
up.
H
Yes,
mayor
council,
councilmember
carter,
the
property
tax
refund
program
that
is
through
the
state
is
applicable
for
both
homeowners
and
renters.
So
that
is
something
that
is
available
to
both
and
it's
based
on
and
for
renters.
It's
based
on
rent
and
income.
G
Great,
thank
you.
I
I
thought
I
recalled
that
when
I
from
when
I
was
a
renter,
but
I
could
not
quite
remember
how
it
worked.
So
thank
you.
I
guess
one
other
comment
that
I
would
like
to
make
in
response
to
councilmember
beloga's
comment
about
creekside
and
motor
vehicle.
G
G
We
know
a
little
bit
more
about
our
situation
now
and
the
impacts,
and
I
and
if
I
recall
correctly,
it
was
that
there
were
council
members
were
uncomfortable,
uncomfortable
making
those
significant
budget
decisions
in
a
vacuum
without
having
the
bigger
picture
like
we
have
now,
and
so
I
will
say
as
hard
as
it
is
as
difficult
as
it
is,
because
I
know
that
there
are
real
impacts
I
would
be.
I
would
definitely
I
would
entertain
the
idea
of
closing
a
motor
vehicle.
G
I
would
I
would
consider
that,
but
I
would
not
be
supportive
of
completely
closing
creekside.
I
definitely
am
willing
to
compromise
in
terms
of
like
what
what
the
partial
kind
of
opening
or
reopening
of
it
looks
like
when
it's
safe
for
our
seniors.
G
So
I
would
not
be
comfortable
with
the
full
shutdown,
but,
but
I
also
am
kind
of
I'm
comfortable
meeting
halfway
there.
So.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
carter,
and
I
agree.
That's
how
I
remember
that
conversation
back
in
may,
as
well
regarding
motor
vehicle,
that
it
was
a
concern
about
trying
to
make
the
decision
without
all
of
the
options
and
all
the
possibilities
out
in
front
of
us,
and
so
I
I
agree
that
was
the
the
conversation
that
we
had.
A
So
a
couple
of
folks
have
brought
them
up.
Actually
a
number
of
the
comments.
I've
heard
have
gone
to
our
strategic
initiatives,
and
so
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
that
talk
more
about
how
how
your
thoughts
regarding
the
budget,
how
these
budget
options
these
budget
proposals,
how
they
land
regarding
not
only
the
council
strategic
initiatives
which
we've
laid
out
and
and
admittedly,
council
member
martin.
I
know
we're
we're
behind
the
we're
behind
our
calendar
and
trying
to
get
those
updated
and
taking
a
second
look
at
those.
A
But
how
do
the
budget
scenarios
reflect
the
council's
strategic
initiatives
and
for
that
matter,
how
do
those
budget
scenarios
effect
reflect
community
preferences?
What
you've
heard
from
members
of
the
community?
What
what
you
believe
are
the
important
parts
of
this
community
that
make
this
community
what
it
is
be
interested
to
hear
more,
because
our
our
strategic
priorities
of
community
image,
equity
and
inclusion,
community
amenities,
high
quality
services,
focused
renewal,
environmental
sustainability
and
engagement
and
transparency.
Those
are
those
are
our
stated
council
strategic
priorities,
and
so
in
in
your
minds.
A
A
Any
thoughts
on
that
I
mean
I
I
will
chime
in
with
with
the
the
two
that
jump
out
to
me
are
environmental
sustainability
and
equity
and
inclusion,
and
from
a
from
a
resources
standpoint.
A
I
think
we've
had
discussions
over
the
past
year
and
acknowledged
pretty
frankly
and
straightforward
that
those
two
strategic
priorities
are
under
resourced
right
now,
if
we
want
to
accomplish
the
things
that
we
have
laid
out
and
many
of
the
plans
that
have
been
put
together
by
both
our
sustainability
commission
and
laid
out
by
our
racial
equity
coordinator,
those
those
areas
are
under
resourced
right
now.
So
how
does
that
play
toward
the
budget
scenarios
that
we
have?
If
that's
the
case,
if
we
want
to?
A
If
we
want
to
prioritize
those
strategic
initiatives
that
we
have
talked
about
again
more
than
one
occasion
over
the
past
year?
What
does
that
look
like
in
terms
of
the
other,
the
other
budget
options
and
the
other
budget
scenarios
that
are
out.
A
D
Well,
I
I
think
you
know
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
there
that
that
you
know
the
conversations
that
we've
had
particularly
conversations
that
I
would
that
we've
had,
I
would
say,
over
the
last
or
you
know,
since
january
1st
of
this
year,
really
reflects
what
you
said
that
we
have
not,
I
think,
in
terms
of
equity
and
inclusion,
and
environmental
sustainability
really
allocated
the
resources
that
that
are
necessary
to
accomplish
the
things
that
we
said
we
want
to
want
to
accomplish,
and
I
mean
at
the
risk
of
once
again,
quoting
myself.
D
You
know,
budget
decisions
are
policy
decisions,
and
I
would
I
would
add
to
that
that
I
I
think,
focus
renewal
is,
I
wouldn't
say
it's
something:
that's
been
under
resourced,
but
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
realistic
about
the
resources
that
will
be
required
moving
forward
and
I
think
of
this
both
in
terms
of
economic
development
and
redevelopment,
but
also
in
terms
of
our
city
amenities.
I
mean
we
are.
D
If
we
want
to
talk
about
focused
renewal,
I
think
the
conversation
starts
at
parts
as
well,
so
you
know,
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
clear
about
what
what
the
future
is,
what
what
the
future
that
we
are
looking
to
create
in
bloomington
looks
like
and
what
kind
of
future
we
want
and
when
we
think
about
the
things
that
attract
folks
to
move
to
a
place
and
keep
folks
there,
it's
those
kinds
of
things.
So
that's
what
I
would.
A
Say,
thank
you,
council,
member
coulter,
council,
member,
martin
and
councilmember
carter.
Are
you
up
next
or
is
not?
Is
that
an
old
hand,
if
I
could
remind
you
all
just
to
bring
your
hand
down
when
you
get
when
you're
done
with
your
comment?
Just
so,
I
can
keep
track
of
everybody
who
wants
to
speak
here,
council,
member
martin,
thank.
J
You
very
much
mayor-
I
guess
this.
This
might
be
more
of
a
process
question,
but
I'm
seeing
so
in
so
say
we
we
were
to
discuss
seriously
kind
of
moving
forward
with
scenario
b,
but
there's
items
in
here
where
it
might
make
sense
to
do
a
partial
reduction.
I
guess
one
example
to
to
pull
out
here.
Let's
see
here
or
not
a
partial
reduction,
I
should
say
maybe
holding
on
to
it.
I
guess
from
from
the
equity
angle,
I
come
to
personally
eliminating
our
winter
trail
plowing.
J
So
as
we're
discussing
the
scenarios
moving
forward,
I
don't
want
to
make
everything
too
crazy,
but
can
this
be
a
thing
where,
for
we
take
the
bulk
of
one
scenario
but
maybe
hold
one
item
out
and
include
an
item
from
say
scenario
c,
I
don't
want
to
make
a
frankenstein,
but
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
around
the
priorities.
Conversation.
A
I
think
council,
member
martin,
this
can
be
what
we
want
it
to
be
and
how
we
want
it
to
be.
I
agree
with
council
member
nelson's
original
comments
that
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this
and
a
lot
of
thought
and
a
lot
of
very
good
discussion,
but
that
doesn't
mean,
as
was
discussed
earlier,
that
option
79
is
sacrosanct
and
option
80,
where
the
line
is
drawn,
can't
be
moved
at
all.
A
You
know,
I
do
think
there
are
we
we
could,
I
think,
in
good
conscience
and
probably
with
the
understanding
of
the
community
budget
advisory
committee.
If
we
moved
puzzle
pieces
around
a
bit-
and
I
I
wouldn't-
I
don't
know
that
I
would
be
entirely
comfortable
moving
something
to
an
enormous
degree,
but
I
do
think
it's.
It
would
be
acceptable
from
from
my
perspective
and
then
probably
from
the
advisory
committee's
perspective.
A
I
Thank
you
mayor
in
terms
of
our
strategic
priorities.
I
think
that
councilman
beloga
in
emphasizing
our
core
services,
our
police
fire
public
works,
is
spot
on
there.
I
think
you
know
reasonably.
The
community
expects
us
to
continue
to
provide
those
services
at
a
high
level
and
we
should
fund
them.
There
might
be
one
small
tweak
that
I'd
make
on
the
police
budget,
that
there
is
a
potential
to
fund
some
overtime
using
a
forfeiture
account
for
at
least
a
year.
I
Maybe
two
that
one
I
might
as
long
as
we're
continuing
to
fund
it
have
some
flexibility
on,
but
I
think
those
core
basic
services
are
what
our
community
expects
us
to
do
and
we
need
to
protect
those
in
terms
of
community
amenities
when
we
look
at
things
like
creekside,
highland
golf
course,
even
the
motor
vehicle.
I
Personally,
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
change
anything
with
regards
to
those
those
should
potentially
be
individual
conversations
not
done
through
a
budget
process
to
cut
them
that
we
should
let
the
community
know
what
we're
doing
have
hearings
get
more
feedback
on
that,
because
those
are
extremely
impactful
for
people,
and
you
know
I
I
I
think
that
it's
important
to
really
be
robust
in
our
process
about
making
those
types
of
big
decisions,
particularly
with
regards
to
our
our
amenities
there.
C
I
don't
think
I
need
to
restate
what
I
said
about
the
seven
budgetary
priorities.
Certainly
I
did
see
some
things
in
there
that
specifically,
I
wouldn't
cut
if
they
fit
underneath
those
seven
priorities
and
councilmember
carter.
I
mentioned
one
of
them.
You
know.
Certainly,
since
I
sit
on
that
commission,
I
want
to
be
careful
about
mentioning
that,
but
I
do
think
there's
some
things.
C
We've
got
to
be
careful
about,
but
the
way
in
which
I
look
at
some
of
those-
and
I
think
chancellor
nelson's
really
kind
of
put
it
out
correctly.
We
look
at
some
of
these
other
larger
things,
highland
greens,
motor
vehicle.
I
think
that's
the
way
to
kind
of
move
forward
with
that.
When
I
look
at
some
of
these
things,
there
are
equity
issues.
C
There
are
sustainable
issues
that
are
all
part
of
those
major
entities
that
we
have
there
and
you
know,
certainly
when
I
look
specifically
at
motor
vehicle
in
order
for
folks
to
to
get
jobs
in
this
community
living.
If
we,
if
we
are
indeed
a
suburban
area,
you
know
getting
a
driver's
licenses
is
top
on
that
list.
I
don't
know
how
that
can't
be
an
equity
issue,
so
but
that's
all
I'll
comment
there
thanks.
G
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
guess
I
did
want
to
make
another
comment
about
a
specific
line
item
that
is,
you
know,
related
to
our
strategic
priorities
and,
I
think,
can
kind
of
cross.
G
It
can
cut
across
a
couple
of
them.
But
you
know
if
we
were
to
go
a
scenario
b
that
would
be
two-thirds
of
the
cultural
arts.
Grants
that
have
a
reduction
in
funding
are
that's
a
two-thirds
of
reduction
in
funding,
and
I
think,
if
you
know,
if
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
having
more
robust
conversations
about
motor
vehicle
and
creekside
and
some
of
these
bigger
amenities,
I
mean,
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
more
robust
conversation
around
the
the
arts.
G
We
have
a
huge
art
center
at
civic
plaza,
and
if
we
are,
you
know
taking
away
resources
that
help
keep
these
arts
organizations
afloat
and
and
civic
plaza
and
our
story
I
mean
our
civic
plaza-
is
a
community
center.
It
is
where
people
gather
it
is
where
you
know
people
spend
time
together.
G
It's
where
people
come
together
in
community,
and
so
I
guess
I
would
just
say
that
if
we're
going
to
have
more
robust
conversations
around
individual
light
items
that
are
significant
amenities
in
our
community,
I've
heard
from
plenty
of
people
around
the
arts
organizations,
and
so
I
would
propose
that
we
add
that
to
the
list.
D
D
I
personally
know
the
the
the
value
and
and
what
our
community
gets
from
arts
organizations,
and
I-
and
I
I
think
you
know
what
we
see
is
that
these
are
sort
of
for
lack
of
a
better
term
grassroots
arts
organizations.
These
are
our
organizations
in
which
a
great
many
of
the
folks
who
participate
live
right
here
in
bloomington,
and
certainly
a
lot
of
the
folks
who
receive
the
benefit
of
these
organizations
live
right
here
in
bloomington,
as
well.
Just
to
to
a
couple
of
specific
things
that
I
I
just
forgot
to
mention.
D
Last
time
I
spoke
while
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
the
specific
priorities
that
he
laid
out.
I
think
council,
member
blog,
is
exactly
right
that
we
should
think
about
being
creative
with
the
the
revenues
we
have
from
franchise
fees.
I
think
my
recollection
is
that
this
was
a
sort
of
this
a
policy
decision
that
was
made.
D
Oh,
I
think,
a
number
of
years,
even
before
I
was
on
the
council
to
dedicate
franchise
visas.
They
are,
and
I
think
you
all
know
how
I
feel
about
doing
things
continuing
to
do
things
just
because
that's
the
way
we've
always
done
it.
So
I
want
to
urge
folks
to
think
about
that
creatively.
D
D
I
I
mean
this
is,
of
course,
a
budget
decision
and
a
policy
decision,
and
we
until
there
is
a
more
permanent
solution
and
unless
you
know
relocating
everything
to
civic
plaza
becomes
that
permanent
solution,
in
which
case
we'd
obviously
need
to
know
more
about
it,
but
unless
and
until
there's
a
more
permanent
solution.
As
far
as
what
comes
next
once
we
close
creekside,
I
I
can't
support
that.
I
think
that's
just
not
a
good
policy
decision.
D
D
It
from
what
we
have
heard
it
doesn't
sound
like
things
are
really
moving
forward
with
pga
reach.
I
don't
want
to
characterize
anything
more
than
I
know,
but
I
you
know
we
can't
just
keep
that
in
stasis.
I
think
at
some
point
we're
gonna
have
to
make
a
decision
about
the
future
of
highland
greens
and
as
far
as
motor
vehicles.
D
You
know
I
I
have
thought
a
lot
about
this
and
I
I
get
that
it
is
a
great
convenience
and
I
I
think,
council
member
woman's
not
wrong
to
say
that
there
is,
to
a
certain
extent,
an
equity
issue.
Here
I
I
think
the
location
at
southdale
is
is
not
ideal
for
folks
who
live
in
bloomington,
but
it
is
accessible
by
transit.
D
D
There
are,
of
course,
permissions
that
would
need
to
come
before
that
and
so
on,
but
I
I
think
what
it
comes
down
to
for
me
is
that
motor
vehicles
is
a
great
convenience
for
the
community,
and
I've
certainly
availed
myself
of
that
convenience,
but
it
is.
It
is
not
one
of
those
things
that
city
government
has
to
do
and
it's
clear
that
it's
not
one
of
those
things
that
somebody
else
won't
do.
If
we
don't
so
I,
while
it
would
not
be
obviously
not
be
my
preference,
I
I
would
be
you
know.
D
My
position
I
would
say
on
motor
vehicles
has
likewise
not
changed
that
I
I
think
it
is.
I
I
think
we
would
be
well
enough
without
it
if
we
had
to
close
it.
So
I
just
you
know,
I
think,
that's
where
I
come
down
on
those
particular
things.
As
long
as
we're
on
the
topic.
K
I
think
the
heart
of
any
community
is
arts
and
cultural
activities,
and
I
think
for
us
not
the
fully
fundals
is
a
mistake,
in
particular,
when
you
look
at
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
talking
about
it's,
it's
really
de
minimis
in
the
scope
of
things.
So
I
would
advocate
for
that,
and
sustainability
is
an
imperative.
K
Having
said
that,
which
are
new
comments
for
me
added
to
what
I
had
previously
said,
since
everybody
has
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
at
least
once
I
would
like
to
hear
what
the
comments
are
from
the
city
manager
in
response
to
what
he's
heard
so
far,.
A
If
I,
if
I
could
just
jump
in
I,
I
appreciate
this,
but
just
let
me
jump
in
because
I
have
one
thing
specific
to
a
couple
of
comments
that
were
made
specifically
about
franchise
fees.
Those
have
been
who
have
been
around
a
while
know
that
I
have
never
supported
franchise
fees.
I
voted
against
franchise
fees
every
time
they
have
come
up
with
the
thought
being
that,
if
we're
going
to
actually
take
money
from
folks,
we
should
tax
them
the
franchise
fee.
A
That's
it's
like
the
cigarette
or
the
tobacco
fee
from
the
the
90s
here
in
the
state
of
minnesota,
which
was
it
was
ridiculous.
It
was
it
was.
It
was
a
tax,
and
so
I
agree
that
if,
if
we're
going
to,
if
we're
going
to
look
at
different
revenue
streams,
I
will
not
at
all
be
supportive
of
of
changing
where
tr,
where
franchise
fees
go
to
they
right
now.
A
They
go
specifically
to
park
trails
and
park
park
trails
and
trail
maintenance,
and
I
know
that's
been
one
of
the
top
priorities
when
we're
talking
about
community
amenities.
That's
been
one
of
the
top
priorities
that
residents
have
placed
over
the
past.
Three
or
four
or
five
years
in
terms
of
what
they
want
to
see
in
the
community,
and
I
think
there
have
been
at
least
a
couple
of
council
members
who
have
been
very
outspoken
in
the
need
for
additional
funding
for
that
and
for
the
need
to
continue
that.
A
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
mean
I
would
not
support
moving
franchise
fees
around
just
to
to
get
them
into
the
general
fund
and
use
them
to
be
on
a
general
purpose
and
I'm
I
ultimately
may
be
on
the
losing
end
of
that.
But
that's
not
my.
That
would
never
be
my
goal
for
for
franchise
fees.
So
with
that
said,
mr
verbruge.
E
Council
members
to
councilman
question
what
what
I'm,
what
I'm
generally
hearing
from
the
the
council
members,
is
an
approach
that
that
I
think
we
all
share
is
you
know
as
I'm
as
I'm
factoring
the
the
items
that
are
being
discussed,
and
you
know
how
how
it
affects
the
community.
I
think
you
have
two
objectives
here.
E
One
is
to
really
minimize
the
impact
of
service
reductions
on
the
community,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
not
have
those
be
seen
or
felt
by
the
community
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
and
at
the
same
time,
that
we
are
protecting
the
the
taxpayers
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
from
from
and
any
sort
of
a
tax
impact
that
may
adversely
affect
them,
especially
in
a
time
that's
certainly
trying.
So
the
the
discussion
here
is
pretty
consistent
with
the
discussion
at
the
budget
advisory
committee,
which
is
that
public
safety
and
public
works.
E
Those
core
services
of
government
should
be
very,
very
carefully
considered
and
that
other
items,
as
I
believe
was
councilmember
coulter
may
have
said
it
seems
like
you
know.
These
are
things
that
have
been
talked
about
for
a
while.
You
know
they're
just
decisions
management
decisions
to
to
back
away
from
things.
You
know
there.
There
are
opportunities
to
do
that.
Those
should
be
the
priorities,
so
I
I
think
the
council
and
the
committee
and
the
staff
are
all
in
alignment
in
those
areas
and
so
the
real.
E
The
real
challenge,
I
think,
is
how
do
we
meet
those
dual
objectives
of
minimizing
the
impact
of
service
reductions
and
minimizing
the
impact
of
tax
increases,
because
it's
it's
hard
to
do
both
what
I
I
don't
want
to
move
towards
the
end
of
the
conversation,
but
just
give
the
council
the
community
a
sense
of
how
how
I'm
going
to
try
to
bring
in
the
city
manager's
budget
recommendation
to
the
council
is
to
look
at
a
way
that
accomplishes
both
of
those
things
for
2021,
but
also
has
an
eye
to
the
future,
as
kari
shared
in
her
presentation
as
we
look
to
2022,
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
potential
impact
to
the
taxpayer
again
because
of
the
the
tax
shift
that
is
going
to
occur
because
of
how
the
valuations
move
around-
and
you
know
at
this
time-
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
forecast
what
the
what
the
economic
conditions
may
be
within
the
community
a
year
from
now
who
may
be,
you
know
who
may
be
impacted
even
more
so
whether
you
know
the
malaise
that
we're
feeling
right
now
in
the
economy
still
exists
or
if
people
are
doing
better,
it's
hard
to
answer
those
questions,
but
the
2022
projection
that
we're
utilizing
right
now
is
is
really
trying
to
hold
fast.
E
The
2021
budget,
we're
looking
at
a
couple
of
years
in
the
status
quo
service
level,
whatever
the
council
decides
on
for
2021
making
that
hold
for
a
couple
of
years,
so
that
we
can
ride
this
out.
E
I
I
think
what
we
can
do
and
honor
the
work
of
the
budget
advisory
committee
is
take
the
comments
that
we've
heard
from
the
council
so
far
and
come
back
at
a
subsequent
meeting
here
on
november
30th
that
maybe
keeps
the
groups
together
with
a
little
bit
of
moving
around
and
then
walk
through
sort
of
a
decision
tree
on
a
number
of
the
items
that
the
council
members
have
individually
mentioned
here,
rather
than
trying
fashion
a
consensus
or
make
decisions
yet
this
evening.
I
Thank
you
mayor
just
as
follow-up,
I
have
a
question
for
the
city
manager
in
terms
of
process
that
he's
thinking
about
for
that
conversation,
because
I
have
questions
or
thoughts
on
probably
a
handful
or
so
other
items
within
there.
Do
you
want
me
to
go
through
those
at
this
time?
Do
you
want
me
to
relay
those
later?
A
And
I
think
it
would,
it
would
be
helpful
if
I
mean
if
you've
got.
I
don't
know
how
big
a
handful
you
have,
but
if
you
could
bring
up
the
questions,
I
think
that
was
gonna.
Be
one
of
my
next
one
of
my
next
questions.
We're
going
to
be,
what
else
do
you
need
more
information
on
and
so
what?
I
Okay,
one
the
ranked
choice
voting.
I
know
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
later,
there's
a
recount,
possibly
or
whatever,
but
that's
a
budget
item
that
assuming
the
count
holds,
would
go
in
there.
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
discussion,
but
it
might
help
out
with
some
of
the
things
that
people
have
talked
about,
supporting
like
the
arts
funding
and
things
like
that.
I
The
park,
the
bush
lake
beach
and
the
maintenance
of
it
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
work
with
three
rivers
on
some
of
that,
and
that
would
be
an
area
that
I'd
be
interested
in
exploring
more
the
community
development.
The
interns
for
environmental
health
would
be
an
area
that
I'd
like
to
look
at
a
little
bit
more
like
I
talked
about
the
the
police
special
investigation
over
time,
because
there
is
a
different
funding
source
that
we
could
use
for
next
year.
I
I
The
athletic
field-
utilization
fees,
I'm
concerned
about
the
impact
that'll
have
on
our
youth
sports
organizations,
which
have
been
greatly
impacted
by
covet
this
year.
You
know
their
situations
are
very
difficult
and
going
into
next
year
to
add
new
fees
to
them
may
be
challenging
community
development.
Director
that
was
talked
about.
I
think,
that's
a
position.
We
absolutely
need
to
fund
cultural
arts
grants.
I
absolutely
agree
that
we
need
to
fund
those
the
public
works
partially
eliminating
the
trail
plowing.
I
just
like
to
know
more
details
about
that.
I
I
know
trails
are
one
of
the
highest
priorities
in
our
community
and
particularly
in
the
winter,
when
a
lot
of
indoor
things
are
closed,
having
outdoor
opportunities
is
important,
and
then
I
think
that
also
relates
to
a
conversation
we'll
have
after
this
about
the
park,
maintenance
and
the
the
ice
rinks
and
what,
where
we
want
to
go
with
that,
but
we'll
have
that
discussion
shortly.
So
I
think
those
are
the
ones
that
I
had
highlighted
that
I
just
wanted
to
pull
forward.
So
thank
you.
J
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
I'll.
Go
quick
here,
as
as
some
of
these
have
already
been
mentioned,
yeah
just
just
kind
of
this
back
of
the
envelope
map
here
ranked
choice
the
special
investigator
over
time,
potentially
coming
out
of
doj
for
picture
fund.
Also
it
was.
It
was
mentioned
in
a
council
question
over
email,
but
the
council
travel
and
training
budget
for
around
twenty
five
thousand
twenty
five.
J
Seven
I've
got
again
back
to
the
envelope
coming
out
to
about
144
000
in
savings
there,
which
is
almost
the
community
development
position,
also
just
curious,
more
information
on
why,
in
scenario
b,
we've
cut
two-thirds
of
the
cultural
arps
grants,
but
we
don't
touch
artistry,
support
until
scenario
c
and
then
kind
of
wrapped
into
all
of
that.
J
How
much
kind
of
concrete
programming
are
our
community
organizations
expecting
to
put
on
in
2021,
especially
if
we're
not
anticipating
opening
facilities
like
creekside
until
second
or
third
quarter,
and
how
does
that
affect
how
much
funding
they
were
going
to
need
on
the
front
end?
And
then
so?
J
The
development
director
position
sustainability,
as
was
mentioned,
and
then
seeing
if
we
can
retain
some
of
the
cultural
arts,
grants,
funding
and
potentially
offsetting
that
with
reductions
in
some
of
our
other
arts
organizations
that
aren't
included
right
now.
So
yeah,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
trying
to
balance
and
I'm
imagining
it'll
be
three
percent
plus
three
or
four
items
that
are
really
smacked
out
in
the
middle
of
our
priorities.
But
that's
what
I
got
thank
you.
C
Thank
you
mayor.
I
always
like
to
avoid
doing
the
line
by
line
kind
of
kind
of
view,
but
you
know
I'd
like
to
just
looking
at
at
some
of
these
sheets
here
in
terms
of
the
items
here.
I've
got
five
six
and
seven
from
this
city
budget
operating
budget
that
I
have
questions
about.
C
In
terms
of
you
know
it
certainly
it
says
the
impact
here
in
terms
of
how
that'll
have
some
impacts,
but
I
want
to
understand
in
terms
of
staffing,
will
it
drive
overtime
up
for
these
positions?
What
other?
What
other
will
we?
We
create
an
experience
in
terms
of
employees
that
are
overworked?
C
I
just
wanna
know
a
little
bit
more
about
the
five
six
and
seven,
I'm
certainly
willing
to
talk
to
city
manager
offline,
to
have
conversations
about
that
and
then,
when
I
look
at
items
74
through
77,
I
just
wanted
to
understand.
In
terms
of
you
know,
we
talked
about
reduced
deaths,
part-time
staffing
hours
for
public
works.
What
does
that
mean?
How
is
that
going
to
be
covered
from
a
coverage
standpoint?
C
I
wanted
to
kind
of
understand
about
that.
You
know
in
terms
of
right
think
about
you,
know
our
our
core
and
also
our
our
seven
priorities.
You
know,
certainly
that
fits
in
there
in
terms
of
making
sure
we
have
good
customer
service
and
then
neighborhood
traffic
calming
programs.
C
I
know
that
I
have
in
a
number
of
occasions-
and
we
just
saw
an
accident
on
it-
was
106th
street
or
102nd
street
in
my
district,
and
I
wonder
what
impact
that's
going
to
have
for
for
traffic
within
our
within
our
community
and
then,
as
I
look
at
some
of
these
other
public
works
positions.
Certainly
I
I
just
wanna
understand:
does
that
mean
we're
not
gonna
have
a
a
traffic
engineer
at
all,
or
does
this
just
mean
we're
eliminating
one
traffic
jam?
I
just
wasn't
clear
about
this.
C
These
some
odd
items
are
there
other
items
that
were
not
included
in
terms
of
of
cutting
that
that
the
budget
committee
did
not
look
at,
and
I
want
to
know
beyond
just
that
list
beyond
there,
that
we
could
have
a
look
at
and
really
what
I'm
driving
at
here
is.
You
know.
C
Certainly
we've
got
recommendations
before
from
our
committees
and
and
sub
committees,
and
I
want
to
just
be
sure
that
we
are
as
a
council,
you
know
looking
at
what's
the
best
possible
step
kind
of
moving
forward,
we
don't
always
follow
the
recommendations
from
our
our
our
from
our
commissions.
We
did
that
with
ranked
choice.
C
Voting
we
decided
not
to
follow
the
recommendation
of
the
of
our
of
our
commission
there
and
with
a
number
of
other
things,
but
you
know
they
have
the
information
that
they
have.
We
have
a
broader
point
of
view,
we're
looking
at
a
number
of
other
items
and
so
just
want
to
kind
of
bring
that
back
to
you,
mayor
city
manager
and
the
rest
of
the
council.
A
I
think
these
scenarios
and
these
budget
reduction
possibilities
were
brought
forward
department
by
department
based
on
what
their
the
targets
were
set
for
them,
and
they,
I
think
they
looked
at
what
would
be
best
for
their
department
and
and
how
best
to
meet
those
budget
goals,
while
at
the
same
time
maintaining
the
services
and
the
meeting
the
priorities
and
the
and
the
goals
that
they
have
as
a
department.
So
I
guess
we
could.
A
I
I
wouldn't
encourage
where
we
are
in
the
budget
process,
now
encourage
going
back
to
the
departments
and
saying
well
come
up
with
another
list
and
and
find
more
possibilities,
and
I
would
equally
not
necessarily
encourage
the
council
necessarily
to
pick
through
and
think
about
their
own
possibilities,
because
that
would
be
it
might
be
a
bit
more
information
that
we're
able
to
pull
together
in
time
to
make
a
final
budget
decision.
I
I
just
think
this
was
the
this.
A
A
C
A
So
two
questions
then
counsel
any
more
questions
staff
are.
Do
you
have
enough
information
to
to
continue
to
move
this
forward
to
november
30th
council?
Any
additional
questions.
A
Staff,
do
you
need
additional
information,
or
do
you
have
what
you
need
to
continue
to
move
this
forward
and
if
you
could,
mr
virogi,
maybe
if
you
could,
for
the
council's
benefit
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
bring
us
through
the
next
steps,
bring
us
where,
where,
where
we're
going
from
here,
mr
parent
council
members.
E
E
We
will
make
sure
that
we
answer
the
questions
that
specific
that
each
of
the
council
members
had
and
for
the
the
item
numbers
that
were
identified
by
council
member
lohman
and
some
others
for
a
little
more
detail,
we'll
put
together
additional
narrative-
and
I
did
want
to
answer
a
couple
questions
before
answering
your
last
question
there,
mr
mayor
first,
the
if
I
wasn't-
I
don't
think
I
was
clear
at
the
beginning
in
terms
of
how
the
process
worked
with
the
with
the
budget
advisory
committee
and
how
this
list
came
to
be
the
the
committee
solicited
feedback
from
the
community.
E
So
there
were
community
generated
ideas.
They
discussed
the
committee
generated
ideas
amongst
themselves
that
are
items
that
are
represented
here
and
then
the
staff
went
through
the
exercise
with
each
of
the
departments,
in
their
leadership
team
working
with
staff
to
identify
items
to
put
forward
for
consideration.
E
We
didn't
necessarily
share
that
prioritization
with
the
committee,
because
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
was
not
overly
influence
the
discussion
that
they
were
having,
and
so
we
did
at
one
of
the
meetings
generally
discuss
how
their
ranking
fit
with
the
prioritization,
and
I
say
it
was
pretty
close,
but
one
of
the
things
I
I
would
like
to
do
with
the
with
the
acceptance
of
the
council
is
when
we
go
back
and
prepare
for
november
30th,
I'm
just
going
to
have
our
our
staff
leadership.
E
Take
one
more
look
at
this
in,
in
light
of
their
you
know
their
their
departmental
professional
analysis
and
and
see
if
they
would
recommend
any
last
adjustments.
What
we
will
do,
then,
is
bring
back.
What
I
heard
from
the
council
is
something
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
three
percent
or
two
and
a
half
percent
somewhere
in
that
neighborhood
for
a
tax
levy
increase.
E
Obviously,
in
your
role,
you
have
a
you,
have
a
broader
view
of
the
community
and
you
take
in
to
consideration
things
that
are
beyond
the
maybe
the
scope
of
the
of
what
the
committee
considered.
You
obviously
speak
to
a
lot
of
constituents.
E
You
represent
a
number
of
constituencies,
and
so
it's
I
think,
it's
realistic
to
expect
that
there's
going
to
be
some
tweaking
in
the
different
bundles
and
the
co-chairs
even
recognized
that
when
they
made
their
presentation
a
couple
weeks
ago,
so
we'll
bring
back
the
structure
of
what
it.
What
it
looks
like
at
two
and
a
half
or
three,
with
some
staff
recommendations
of
how
you
get
there
and
then
we'll
have
specific
items
for
the
council
to
react
to
based
on
the
discussion
tonight.
Does
that
sound
satisfactory?
Mr
mayor.
A
E
That's
their
notice
of
of
proposed
taxation
for
next
year
should
be
showing
up
in
their
mailboxes
if
it
hasn't
already-
and
it
has
the
details
of
where
and
when
the
hearing
is
it
it'll
be
virtual,
we
won't
be
doing
it
in
person
it'll
be
december
7th
at
7
o'clock.
The
council
will
have
the
option
that
night
of
approving
the
budget,
or
we
have
also
scheduled
december
21st
as
the
final
day
to
approve
the
budget
for
21.
E
A
Good.
Thank
you
much.
Thank
you
for
that
outline
counsel,
everybody
comfortable
with
what
that,
with
that
outline,
that's
been
laid
out
and
the
discussion
that
we've
had
here
tonight
anything
left
to
add.
E
Oh,
I
did
mr
mayor.
One
more
item.
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
answering
questions
the
question
about
rank
choice
voting
and
where
that
fits
in.
We
have
already
made
that
adjustment
in
the
in
the
budget.
So
it's
not.
In
the
cbac,
the
budget
advisory
committee
recommendation
line
items
we
plugged
those
changes
into
the
operating
budget
before
putting
the
information
in
the
packet
for
the
council.
What
that
entailed
was
a
75
000
reduction
in
the
city,
clerk's
budget
for
elections.
E
The
the
rank
choice
voting
means
that
we
will
be
eliminating
the
primary
election
in
2021
for
municipal
offices,
in
the
cost
of
an
election,
probably
90
to
100
000
by
reducing
the
budget
by
75
000
we're
we're
trying
to
reserve
some
dollars
just
for
public
education
and
a
transitional
expense
that
we
may
encounter.
A
I
think
we
have
a
plan.
We
have
a
plan
moving
forward.
I
think
this
was
a
very
good
discussion.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
that.
Ms
carlson,
thanks
for
the
presentation
and
leading
us
through
this
council,
any
final
thoughts
or
we're
moving
on
and
as
I
said,
I
think
this
was
a
very
good
discussion.
I
think
this
was
it
laid
out,
a
lot
of
possibilities
and
where
our
heads
are
at
and
gives
some
good
direction
moving
forward.
We've
got
we're
in
a
good
place.
I
think
to
continue
this
discussion
on
the
30th
all
right.
A
With
that,
I
will
call
item
3.3
on
our
revised
agenda,
which
is
the
park
system
master
plan
and
as
we
get
everybody
lined
up
here,
I
know
that
ann
catri,
our
park
and
rec
director
is
here
and
renee
clark.
Who's
been
leading.
This
master
plan
process
is
also
with
us
this
evening
good
evening
and
welcome.
L
L
Oh,
let's
see
what
kind
of
a
story
could
I
tell.
A
L
N
As
I
up
get
our
presentation
ready,
I
will
share
my
screen
as
I
make
introductions.
N
Tonight
we
are
here
to
review
planning
and
cost
recovery
concepts
developed
from
input
and
studies
done
so
far
through
this
park
system
master
plan
process
joining
me
tonight
from
city
staff.
As
you
saw
our
director
ann
catri,
we
also
have
recreation
manager,
allison
warren
park,
maintenance,
superintendent,
john
bradford
and
assistant
superintendent,
dave
hanson,
presenting
with
me
tonight.
N
As
my
presentation
has
just
froze
I'll
continue
to
describe
what
we're
gonna
do
tonight,
we
have
60
minutes
together
for
three
topics.
I
will
be
continuing
the
level
of
service
discussion
from
august
and
talking
about
proposed
ice
rink
reduction
sites.
B
N
Thank
you,
brad
all
right
so
tonight
the
reason
we're
here
what
we're
doing
and
why
the
purpose
of
our
park
system
master
plan
again
is
to
guide
decisions
for
investment
in
our
parks
in
a
planful
way,
through
engagement
with
you
and
the
parks
and
recreation
parks,
arts
and
recreation
commission
and
the
public
studies
that
are
underway.
N
We
heard
for
support
for
increasing
fees,
which
would
be
complemented
by
a
fee
assistance
program
to
improve
cost
recovery
of
programs,
and
we
also
heard
support
for
a
service
area
model
to
help
create
equitable
access
in
planning
new
park
amenities
and
then
support
also
for
a
community
driven
planning
approach
when
we
do
make
part
improvements
to
create
individual,
individual
visions
for
parks
through
a
planning
process.
N
We
are
proposing
service
areas
using
council
district
boundaries
by
and
large,
as
shown
on
the
map.
The
one
deviation
we're
proposing
to
council
district
boundaries
is
between
districts,
three
and
four,
using
the
physical
barrier
of
35w
as
the
boundary
for
the
service
area
plans
planning
filter.
So
it's
a
way.
This
filter
is
going
to
be
a
way
to
help
make
recommendations
on
where
to
make
changes
to
parks
and
what
changes
to
make
as
we
create
equitable
distribution
and
access
across
the
city.
N
N
So
accordingly,
we
found
bloomington
is
over
served
or
has
too
many
compared
to
this
national
average
of
ice,
rinks,
softball
diamond
fields
and
tennis
courts.
Nothing.
I
just
want
to
note
that
these
recommendations
in
the
level
of
service
are
based
on
a
national
average.
More
fine-grained
study
and
using
bloomington
specific
data
will
really
drive
staff
recommendations
and
we'll
talk
about
that
with
respect
to
ice
rinks
in
a
second.
N
We
also
found,
through
the
level
of
service
assessment,
that
there
are
amenities
missing
or
lacking
in
abundance
in
bloomington.
Those
include
inclusive
playgrounds,
dog
parks,
bloomington
just
has
one
skate
parks
of
which
we
just
have
one
mountain
bike
facilities
which
we
have
none
splash
pads
and
flexible
green
space.
N
Tonight
we
will.
I
will
first
take
you
through
a
review
of
ice
rinks
and
changes
to
outdoor
skating,
that
we
propose
for
this
winter
and
again,
the
level
of
service
assessment.
You
saw
showed
that
for
a
community
of
bloomington
size,
the
national
standard
might
be
something
like
four
or
five
in
minnesota
and
here
in
bloomington
that
I
think
might
be
too
low
and
therefore
staff
is
recommending
that
we
keep
eight
ranks
staff's.
N
Looked
at
this
question
from
a
few
perspectives
and
has
looked
at
it
over
time,
one
we've
seen
warmer
winters,
which
have
made
maintaining
quality
ice,
challenging
we've
seen
changing
trends
in
recreation
generally,
which
have
shifted
neighborhood
play
to
more
organized
sports
in
many
lo.
In
many
circumstances,
and
this
year
on
the
heels
of
the
discussion
item
before
us
city
budget
challenges
due
to
colvin,
have
led
staff
to
evaluate
and
recommend
this
change
to
the
budget
advisory
committee
for
this
upcoming
season.
N
A
Thank
you,
ms
clark,
so
council,
the
question
in
front
of
us
is
concurrence,
looking
at
reducing
the
number
of
skating
areas
from
14
to
eight
and
with
the
map
in
front
of
us
as
to
whether
or
not
we're
okay
with
that
reduction
and
where
those
reductions
would
take
place.
I
Nelson
thank
you
mayor,
first
of
all,
quick
question
just
about
the
map
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
here.
Maybe
I'm
missing
something,
but
there
seemed
to
be
five
x's,
yet
I
thought
we're
going
from
14
to
8,
which
would
be
six
so
can
you
tell
me
where
the
sixth
location
is.
N
There
we
go
so
the
other
the
x
would
be
tarn
hill
park
to
the
west.
I
No
problem,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understood
and
that
I
understood
thank
you,
make
sure
we
understand
yeah
in
terms
of
the
usage
data
and
all
that
is
that
something
that
you
have
that
we
could
see
and
how
is
that
gathered.
N
Council,
member
nelson
council
members
brad,
if
you
could
stop
sharing
your
screen
and
I
can
pull
up
a.
N
L
L
L
Maintenance
team
for
the
last
several
years
as
they've
been
going
out
to
skating
facilities,
they're,
actually
keeping
detailed
notes
as
to
the
condition
of
the
ice,
which
gives
us
a
lot
of
information
about
how
much
utilization
that
rank
is
getting,
and
as
rene
mentioned,
we
do
have
a
couple
of
members
of
our
park
maintenance
team.
So
if
you
have
any
additional
questions
about
that,
they
would
be
able
to
answer
that,
for
you,
renee.
N
Which
is
average
total
skaters
per
day
collected
as
and
discussed
for
the
the
ranks
there
are,
and
this
is
for
the
last
three
seasons-
you'll
see
no
data
for
hague,
which
is
because
it
wasn't
collected
and
then
no
data
for
trepa
park,
which
is
actually
used
for
broomball
and
not
skating,
and
then
some
some
missing
data
for
for
southwood,
which
was
which
is
submitted
by
volunteers.
L
You
know
you
know,
that's
the
that's.
The
reality
of
this
is
some
of
the
information
where
staff
was
we
feel
is
very
accurate,
but
we
also
feel
that
that
the
data
that
our
park
maintenance
team,
who
maintains
the
facility
in
terms
of
determining
ice
utilization,
is
probably
more
accurate
than
some
of
this
data.
When
it
comes
to
the
skating
facilities
that
did
not
have
staffed
shelter,
buildings.
I
L
L
I'm
going
to
call
on
allison
and
maybe
dave
on
this
question.
I
apologize,
I'm
not
sure
exactly,
but
I
I
will
say
that
without
the
the
reservations
and
without
staff
being
at
either
of
those
ranks,
we
can't
answer
that
question
very
specifically.
Allison.
Do
you
have
any
other
information
on
either
of
those
sites.
B
Council,
member,
nelson
and
members
of
the
council,
I
don't
have
anything
additional
to
add,
besides
the
anecdotal
information
that
the
majority
of
the
usage
from
the
schools
is
not
from
a
specific
program
since
they're,
not
renting
from
us
or
preserving
anything
but
more
recess
usage
is
what
our
lead
staff
is
seeing,
while
they're
driving
around
turning
lights
or
after
school
programming.
But
we
don't
have
any
reservations
to
confirm
that
they're
using
it
or
not
and
beyond
that,
just
something
to
mention
of
the
10
elementary
schools.
B
I
And
then
also
regarding
ridgeview
in
particular,
because
it
doesn't
have
staff.
When
we
look
at
the
budget
proposal,
there
was
a
savings
for
closing
some
of
these
ranks,
but
this
doesn't
have
a
staff.
Would
there
still
be
a
savings
and
what
I
guess
cost
implication,
is
there
for
that
location.
L
There
are
two
different
savings
approaches,
as
it
relates
to
the
budget
reduction
scenarios
that
we
presented
to
the
community
budget
advisory
committee.
The
ones
that
are
shown
in
recreation
are
the
charges
that
would
be
for
the
facilities
that
have
staff
and
for
the
staff
that
drives
around
to
turn
on
and
off
lights.
L
The
even
more
substantial
part
of
maintaining
the
ranks
is
the
the
fee
associated
from
park
maintenance
and
it's
determined
that
on
average-
and
this
is
an
approximate
cost,
but
on
average
it
costs
just
under
11
000
per
ring
to
maintain
those
facilities
during
the
winter.
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
asking
answering
those
specific
questions.
I
just
want
to
say
that
in
general
I
am
absolutely
supportive
of
the
direction
of
this
and
appreciate
the
innovation.
I
do
think
that's
worth
a
council
conversation
in
regards
to
timing
of
these,
whether
or
not
we
decommission
these,
maybe
potentially
years
in
advance
of
the
new
amenities
being
installed
and
what
impact
that
has
on
those
neighborhoods.
I
I
also
do
think
that
there's
some
consideration
regarding
that
ridge
view
just
based
on
the
number
of
people
that
I
have
heard
that
that
use
it
see
very
popular
usage
and
the
fact
that
the
numbers
were
driven
by
more
of
a
volunteer
count
than
a
staff
driven
count.
I
would
just
personally
like
to
see
some
more
information
on
that
one
and
see
if,
if
it's
possible,
to
get
better
data
before
making
a
decision
on
that
one.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
Well,
one
of
my
questions
was
around
the
budget
which
councilmember
nelson
addressed
in
his
questions.
I
guess
one
question
related
to
the
ice
rinks
that
are
located
next
to
schools.
Have
we
talked
with
the
school
district
about
what
any
discontinuation
would
look
like
or
if
they
would
have
interest?
G
In
I
mean
I
would
assume
they
probably
wouldn't
have
the
the
right
type
of
resources
available
to
keep
up
those
ice
rinks,
but
maybe
they
would
want
to
provide
resources
to
the
city
to
help
maintain
them
if
it
was
of
value
to
their
school.
I'm
just
curious
if
any
conversations
have
happened
happening
with
the
school
district
as
it
relates
to
those
ranks.
L
L
L
And
again,
I
would
note
that
that
these
are
the
facilities
that
our
staff
have
identified
as
facilities
that
are
less
used
than
others
in
the
community,
and
I
certainly
want
to
add,
too
that
we
recognize
that
losing
a
park.
Amenity
close
to
folks
home
is
always
very,
very
difficult.
There's
no
doubt
and
it
will
be
definitely
felt
as
a
loss.
L
As
we
looked
at
these
skating
facilities,
we
did
our
best
to
geographically
locate
them
throughout
the
city
to
ensure
that
everyone
would
have
a
skating
facility
relatively
close
to
their
home,
and
that
was
very
important
to
us
and,
as
rene
mentioned
earlier,
it
also
is
included
as
part
of
the
plan
that
we
were
looking
at
for
making
reinvestments
into
shelter
buildings
that
would
that
would
best
serve
the
community
in
the
future
as
well
as
it
relates
to
to
the
question
from
council
member
nelson
about
waiting
until
we
have
the
ability
to
reinvest
in
other
amenities
in
in
the
place
of
some
of
these
skating
facilities.
L
L
If
you
recall,
one
of
the
items
that
rene
mentioned
that
we
were
lacking
in
the
community
is
just
flexible,
green
space
and
in
some
areas
where
we're
making
skating
rinks
or
we
have
boards
up
that
are
year
round,
we
don't
have
good
grass
in
these
locations,
so
just
having
open
space.
I
think
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
community
and,
as
you'll
see
moving
forward.
We
have
some
really
interesting
proposals
for
some
of
these
skating
facilities
as
well
to
convert
into
the
new
recreational
amenities
that
we're
lacking
in
the
community.
G
That
was
a
second
kind
of
question
or
point
that
I
I
wanted
to
echo
that
councilmember
nelson
did
too
just
that
it's
much
harder
to
take
away
an
amenity
when
we
don't
know
the
timeline
of
the
new
amenity
that
will
be
in
its
place,
but
I
will
say
I
don't
know
if
other
council
members
received
the
emails
today,
but
I
did
receive
a
lot
of
emails
around
the
excitement
about
bike
parks,
and
so
I
think,
once
we
get
to
a
point
where
you
know
some
of
the
the
parks
where
these
amenities,
the
rinks,
will
be
taken
away,
and
we
can
say
like
these
are
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
now.
G
I
think
people
will
be
a
lot
more
excited,
so
I
also
just
want
to
say
that
I
am
supportive
of
this
approach
too.
I
know
that
it's
a
really
difficult
proposal
to
make
and
decisions
make
for
us,
but
I
think
you
know
given
our
budget
situation,
if
this
is
the
direction
we're
moving
in
in
terms
of
our
budget.
G
This
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
even
as
we
think
about
kind
of
the
master
park
plan
of
the
city
and
making
sure
we
have
the
right
mix
of
amenities.
So
I
will
leave
my
comments
at
that.
D
Thank
you
mayor.
Well,
I'm
gonna
sort
of
pick
up
where
council
members,
nelson
and
carter
left
off,
and
maybe
this
is
honestly
just
because
I
grew
up
in
the
area,
but
as
I
look
at
kind
of
the
area
around
the
borders
of
yeah,
the
numbers
are
service
areas,
one
two
and
three
in
that
ridge
view
area,
and
this
is
sort
of
specific
to
this
skating,
rink
discussion,
but
also
sort
of
more
general
to
the
overall
discussion.
D
Looking
at
the
graphic
with
all
of
the
amenities,
that's
that's
an
area
that
seems
a
little
bit
sparse
to
me
and
I
guess
part
of
the
the
I
don't
know
I
wouldn't
say
it's
a
concern,
but
but
something
I
just
kind
of
want
to
put
on
on
your
radar
is
that
while
I
you
know,
I
think
the
idea
of
this
service
area
model
is
a
good
one.
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
careful
about
remembering
that
not
all
service
areas
are
created,
equal
right
and
not.
D
We,
you
know
where,
where
some
folks
live
in
one
service
area
is
not
necessarily
as
accessible
as
some
where
some
folks
live
in
another
one.
You
know
again,
I
think
this
is
just
because
I
grew
up
in
that
area,
but
you
have
highland
park
right
right
over
there
and
that's
a
that's
an
accessibility
issue.
I
think
for
some
folks
in
terms
of
ability
to
navigate
around
it
quickly
and
efficiently.
D
D
I
just
generally
kind
of
want
us
to
think
creatively
about
ensuring
sort
of
equitable
access
in
in
that
sort
of
physical
barrier
way,
and
you
know,
like
I
said
again,
looking
at
this
graphic
with
all
the
amenities
just
zooming
in
in
between
old
shakopee
and
90th,
slash,
poplar,
bridge
road
and
then
east
west.
If
you
look
at
the
border
between
say,
highland
and
france,
the
current
proposal
just
has
a
what
I
would
say
is
a
rather
sparse
collection
of
amenities,
and
so
just
just
kind
of
something
to
think
about.
There.
L
Councilman,
remember
coulter,
members
of
the
council,
if
I
might
add
as
well,
we
are
only
at
the
50
mark
of
our
park
system
master
plan
and
we
are
not
intending
at
this
stage
to
have
a
comprehensive
look
and
view
of
the
entire
park
system
and
all
amenities,
we're
really
just
focusing
on
the
amenities
that
we
know
that
we
are
specifically
short
on,
as
renee
mentioned,
with
the
with
the
level
of
service
standards
and
then
some
of
the
amenities
that
would
fit
back
into
some
of
these
skating
facilities
that
we
would
be
eliminating,
but
but
rest
assured
we're
only
at
the
50
plan
and
and
the
intention
of
doing
this
service
areas
was
to
to
take
the
look
exactly
as
you're
describing.
J
Martin
wrong
buttons:
it's
not
super
pressing
I'll.
Take
my
knife
on
here.
C
Try
to
be
quick
here,
so
let
me
I
want
to
kind
of
get
at
this
ice
skating,
rink
thing
here.
So
if
you
had
a
blank
map
here
and
you
could
place
these
ice
skating,
rinks
anywhere
in
the
city,
would
you
put
them
where
they
are.
C
L
Council,
member
lohman,
that's
a
that's
a
very
good
question.
You
know,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
safe
to
say.
As
we
looked
at
the
map
and
some
of
the
facilities
that
we
have
right
now,
we
wished
that
we
would
have
some
things
differently,
but
in
terms
of
the
skating
facilities,
we
couldn't
help,
but
look
at
the
skating
facilities
that
are
just
so
wildly
popular
right
now
and
we
do
have
a
half
a
dozen
of
those
skating
facilities
that
are
just
wildly
popular.
L
C
The
reason
why
I
asked
that
question
is:
can
I
look.
I
remember
at
some
point
seeing
a
map
of
the
density
of
the
city
of
bloomington
when
you
kind
of
look
at
how
dense
and
where
the
population
is,
you
move
further
east,
and
so
I
kind
of
looked
at
that
77
line.
I
said
to
myself
a
while
there
should
at
least
be
at
least
one
ice
rink
facility
over
there.
You
know
just
in
my
head,
you
know,
but
given
what
you
said,
that
makes
sense,
but
that's
you
know
from
a
density
perspective.
C
I
kind
of
look
back
on
this
and
kind
of
say
that's
an
interesting.
You
know
from
an
equity
standpoint
in
terms
of
where
these
things
lie,
you're
not
going
to
get
it
right,
no
matter
what
you
do,
but
it
just
you
know
just
a
different
perspective
in
terms
of
of
how
of
looking
at
this
thing,
I'm
not
saying
you
need
to
change
anything.
I
just
wanted
to
understand,
have
a
better
understanding
of
where
you're
looking
at
this
and
to
councilmember
nelson's
point
of
view.
C
L
If
I
may
jump
in
also
before
we
move
on
with
our
presentation
and
let
the
council
know
as
well
that
our
intention
here
we,
we
would
like
to
get
some
feedback
and
direction
on
ranks,
because
who
knows
the
way
the
the
way
the
winter
is
going,
we
might
be
able
to
start
making
rinks
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
So
that
is,
that
is
def,
definitely
very
important
to
us
in
terms
of
direction.
L
But
the
other
thing
is
that
we
wanted
to
run
a
lot
of
this
information
past
the
city
council,
past
the
parks,
arts
and
recreation
commission,
and
then
we
intend
to
do
another.
Significant
community
engagement
run
with
all
this
exact
same
information
too,
seeking
feedback
from
the
community
over
the
next
month
to
month
and
a
half.
And
then
we
will
report
back
to
the
city
council
as
well
on
our
findings.
A
A
K
N
N
K
You
know
in
in
looking
at
the
equity,
I
see
that
service
area
one
has
three
and
outdoor
and
service
area.
Three
has
one
outdoor.
K
N
The
the
the
the
geographic
distribution
was
one
filter.
We
used
council,
member
beloga
and
members
of
council
and
knowing
that
these
sites
are,
you
know,
largely
being
utilized
with
not
by
people
within
walking
distance,
some
utilization
within
walking,
but
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
utilization
also
comes
with
cars.
N
We
looked
at
in
that
area
of
service
area
3
and
the
utilization
data
of
the
existing
sites
in
that
region
and
the
other.
The
the
trepa
park
is
a
broomball
site
which
gets
has
been
in
the
past
programmed
by
an
outside
group
and
tarnhill
and
hag
have
substantially
low,
lower
utilization
according
to
park
maintenance
and
the
records
we
talked
about
compared
to
the
other
sites
chosen
so
looking
to
create.
You
know
across
bloomington
as
a
whole
and
within
service
areas
that
that
was
a
filter
that
drove
that
decision.
L
L
The
size
of
the
park
and
the
types
of
amenities
in
the
park
were
very
important
to
us
too,
as
we
looked
at
facilities
that
would
really
benefit
from
a
shelter
building
that
offered
a
year-round
venue.
The
size
of
the
park
and
the
types
of
amenities
that
were
in
that
park
were
really
important,
as
we
made
our
disc
our
recommendations
as
well.
K
K
So
it
it's
surprising
to
me
that
and
and
it's
on
one
of
our
major
thoroughfares,
so
it's
very
accessible.
K
But
it
it
seems
like
some
of
the
characteristics
of
tarn
hill
and-
and
I
will
grant
that
brookside
is
you
know
similar
in
some
of
those
characteristics,
but
you
know
I
again,
I'm
just
surprised
at
that.
L
I
would
add
one
more
thing:
council,
member
buloga
and
this
isn't
specific
to
to
to
the
tarn
hill
conversation,
but
I
would
be
remiss
to
my
park
maintenance
colleagues
to
also
not
mention
the
one
of
the
other
main
areas
for
consideration
was
the
quality
of
ice
at
those
facilities,
the
soil
conditions,
the
ability
to
make
and
maintain
ice
was
also
another
key
factor
in
our
decisions
for
the
facilities.
A
So,
council,
I
will
say:
we've
we,
we
first
talked
about
this.
I
don't
even
know
how
long
ago,
six
weeks
ago
or
or
so
and
and
we
kind
of
gave
a
nodding
approval
to
to
consider
the
closure
of
the
outdoor
skating
rinks
for
budget
reasons
and
for
for
just
practicality,
for
the
lack
of
use
and,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and-
and
I
understand
some
hesitancy
or
or
questioning
about
which
were
chosen
and
and
why
or
how.
But
I
think
it
goes
back
to
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
talked
about
that.
A
If,
if
we're
gonna
make
budget
decisions,
it's
it's
gonna
be
effect,
is
people
are
gonna,
be
affected?
Different
facilities,
different
services
are
gonna,
be
affected.
Now
we
can
say
we
don't
want
to
reduce
from
14
to
8
that
we
want
to
just
keep
the
14
that
are
there
and
continue
to
do
it
this
this
winter.
But
then
that
has
a
budget
impact.
We've
got
to
figure
out
how
to
pay
for
that,
and
and
I'm
open
to
that
as
a
possibility.
A
If
folks
want
to
say
no,
let's,
let's
keep
it
and
maybe
get
a
more
accurate
count
or
reevaluate
exactly
where
everything
is
going
or
try
to
get
the
schools
involved
that
we
can
do
all
of
that,
but
there
will
be
a
budget
impact
to
it
for
this
year
for
for
as
we
we
travel
along
here.
So
if
we
want
to
go
from
14
to
8
based
on
staff's
recommendation,
we
can,
if
we'd
rather
leave
it
at
the
14
and
come
back
with
more
information.
A
Council
member
coulter
and
then
council,
member,
nelson
and
council
member
bologna.
That
is
a
a
unique
hand
or
if
it's
the
same
hand,
up
coulter,
nelson
and
below
the
please.
D
Thank
you
mayor
and
I
well,
I
think
you
hit
the
nail
right
on
the
head
with
that
with
that
last
comment
tonight
I
guess
just
to
sort
of
clarify
my
previous
remarks.
I
you
know
like
I
said
I
was
speaking
both
specifically
to
the
ranks
but
also
more
generally,
but
you
know
I
for
myself.
I
have
absolutely
no
problem
going
from
the
14
to
the
eight
I
you
know.
D
I
Would
be
comfortable
going
from
14
to
nine
and
get
more
information
regarding
ridgeview,
just
based
on
the
number
of
people
that
have
contacted
me,
that
use
that
that
that
would
like
to
see
it
open
to
council
member
beloga's
point
about
the
service
area,
three
that
is
also
on
the
border
and
it
serves
a
portion
to
the
north
of
it
along
highland
there
and,
I
think,
actually,
councilmember
coulter
had,
in
his
comments
kind
of
talked
a
lot
about
that
area
being
a
little
bit
isolated
in
terms
of
facilities.
I
I
also
think
it's
important
this
year
to
have
outdoor
amenities
available
for
our
community
with
so
many
of
the
indoor
activities
and
things
like
that
closed
and
shut
off
and
trying
to
find
things
for
for
families
for
kids
to
do
to
remain
active
safely,
see
friends
and
family,
and
things
like
that.
I
I
would.
I
would
very
much
hesitate
to
close
a
rink
that
so
many
people
have
asked
us
to
keep
open
this
year.
If
we
can
all
at
all,
do
that.
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
have
recalled
saying
a
number
of
times
that
too
many
of
our
rinks
were
underutilized
that,
as
I
drove
through
the
city,
you
would
find
the
rinks
empty.
So
I
want
to
move
forward
and
make
a
decision
tonight
on
closing,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
serve
the
population
and
where
they
are
and
have
accessibility,
be
important.
K
So
my
question
of
rich
view:
tarn
hill
brookdale-
I
I
think,
still
merits
some
discussion
on
which
one
of
those
should
remain
open
to
serve
the
needs
in
that
general
area.
But
I
can
go
with
eight
or
nine.
You
know,
as
the
number
of
rings
going
forward.
C
Yeah,
I
could
do
eight
or
nine,
and
one
suggestion
I
might
make
for
the
parks
group
just
to
help
with
with
the
service
area
three
problem.
We
could
move
that
line
down
to
her
and
second
street,
and
that
would
you
know
basically
put
another
one
in
service
area.
Three
there
you
go
quick
solution.
A
What
if
we
did
as
a
compromise
again
considering
the
number
of
calls
and
and
emails
that
we
have
received
what
if
we
leave
ridgeview
on
the
list
this
year,
we
make
the
reduction
from
14
to
nine
and
ask
park
to
parks,
to
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
that
work
and
perhaps
do
a
a
more
thorough
counter
or
more
comprehensive
count,
considering
that
it
being
close
to
a
school
that
perhaps
ridgeview
does
get
a
lot
of
school
traffic
or
after
school
use
or
class
use,
and
and
then,
if
we
need
to
revisit
this
in
the
future,
we
can
I
mean
we
can
take
a
look
at.
A
We
can
take
a
look
at
our
numbers
this
winter.
We
can
take
a
look
at
the
demand
we
see
this
winter
and
maybe,
if
we
need
to
revisit
this
weekend
as
we
as
we
go
along,
would
that
be
acceptable
to
both
the
council
and
to
park
staff.
L
Mayor,
may
I
just
mention
one
thing:
the
the
one
issue
that
we're
going
to
have
this
year
is
because
our
shelter
buildings
aren't
going
to
be
open
and
we
don't
have
any
skating
staff.
L
I
don't
want
to
set
the
expectation
with
the
city
council
that
we're
going
to
have
great
data
this
year
for
skating
rink
utilization,
because
we
do
not
have
staff
and
we
do
not
have
the
financial
resources
to
hire
staff,
especially
to
do
ring
counts.
So
we're
happy
to
do
the
the
nine
ranks,
if
that's
what
you
prefer,
but
we
we
likely
will
not
have
any
better
data
for
you
going
into
next
year.
A
I
I
appreciate
that,
perhaps
especially
with
ridgeview.
It
would
be
a
matter
of
just
tapping
into
the
to
the
school
and
figuring
out
what
kind
of
usage
they
get
and
if
they
use
like,
I
said
for
phyad
classes
or
after
school
programs
or,
however,
they
might
use
them
so
but
understood,
understood,
councilmember,
coulter,.
D
Thank
you
mayor
to
that
point
exactly,
given
that
the
bloomington
school
district
has
moved
to
all
distance
learning,
or
at
least
I
think,
the
next
few
months.
I
guess
I'm
not
sure
how
I
mean.
How
could
we
quantify
school
usage
at
ridgeview
if,
if
students
aren't
physically
in
the
building.
A
I
will
suggest
once
again
that
we
go
forward
with
with
the
nine,
as
opposed
to
the
eight,
let's
keep
ridge
view
in
the
mix,
and
if
we
need
to
reevaluate
or
revisit
this
at
this
time
next
year,
we
will
be
able
to
do
so.
N
Thank
you,
mayor
members
of
council,
for
that,
for
that
input
we're
going
to
move
rather
quickly
through
the
rest
of
the
level
of
service
discussion.
We
talked
about
council
requested.
You
know
when
we're
taking
away
things
rings
ball
fields.
N
What
are
we
going
to
put
back
in
their
place
and
I'll
turn
the
presentation
over
for
a
preview
of
proposed
locations
for
new
amenities
across
the
park
system
which
our
level
of
services
identified
as
lacking
or
missing?
These
maps
will
go
out
on
the
let's
talk,
bloomington
site
for
public
input
on
proposed
locations,
and
we
will
bring
that
information
back
to
you.
In
january,
after
the
review
of
those
service
area
maps,
we
will
have
a
cost
recovery,
explanation
and
short
discussion
led
by
leon
younger.
O
O
So
councilmember
colter
mentioned
this
map.
Previously,
this
is
looking
at
all
the
new
proposed
facilities
in
the
city,
and
I
think
the
thing
to
note
here
is
that
we
were
striving
kind
of
using
these
service
areas
and
looking
at
equity,
and
you
will
notice
that
service
area
4
does
have.
O
I
guess
the
most
amount
of
kind
of
new
proposed
facilities,
because
that
is
a
higher
area
of
of
density
of
population
and,
quite
frankly,
has
been
underserved
in
the
past
with
parks,
so
something
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
move
through
next
slide
grenade,
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
these
pretty
quickly.
O
This
area
amenity,
we
talked
about,
is
having
a
nice
sort
of
a
neighborhood
park.
Building
that
could
kind
of
serve
as
a
sort
of
a
park
hub
for
that
area.
In
each
of
these
service
areas
and
again
you'll
notice
in
in
service
area
4,
we
do
have
three
of
them
proposed
on
the
boundaries,
but
these
are
things
that
we
looked
at
the
the
park,
the
surrounding
neighborhood
the
park,
suitability,
we
talked
to
staff
and
even
talked
to
people
in
the
in
the
neighborhoods
about
where
they
think
might
be
a
good
solution.
O
One
of
the
things
that
we
know
people
have
requested-
and
I
think,
makes
a
lot
of
sense-
is
inclusive
playgrounds
and
we're
we're
thinking
that
we're
going
to
have
two
to
three
inclusive
playgrounds
in
the
city.
So
we've
shown
five
here,
just
to
kind
of
spur
some
conversation
and
get
some
feedback
again.
Looking
at
kind
of
geographic
distribution,
I
think
you
know,
dred,
scott
and
valley
view
make
a
lot
of
sense.
O
These
parks
facilities
really
require
some
some
parking,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
other
amenities
that
would
accommodate
and
help
kind
of
support,
inclusive
play.
So
we're
definitely
interested
to
see
what
the
public
has
to
say
and
get
your
feedback
on
these
proposed
locations
as
well
skatepark
locations.
O
There
is
one
existing
skate
park
at
valley
view,
and
we
think
that
that
could
be
really
the
city's
premier
skate
park
and
it
should
be
expanded,
there's
room
for
it
there.
It
could
be
enhanced
and
expanded.
O
That
would
be
kind
of
sort
of
a
first
step
if
you
will-
and
we
think
that
that
we
could,
you
know,
incorporate
two
to
four
of
them
throughout
the
city.
You
can
see
the
larger
icons
where
looking
at
those
is
more
of
a
community
based
skate
park
would
be
a
little
bit
larger
kind
of
more
challenging
situation
and
those
smaller
icons
are
potentially
locations
for
little
we're
calling
neighborhood
facilities.
That
would
be
a
little
smaller
easier.
You
know
better
for
beginners
and
neighborhood
kids.
O
Splash
pads,
the
current
one
at
cedarcrest,
is
very
popular.
Splash
pads
are
loved
by
a
lot
of
people
and
you
will
notice
that
we
are
not
showing
one
in
the
in
the
in
the
southwest
area,
and
that
was
intentional.
We
had
a
lot
of
discussions
about
that
and
went
back
and
forth.
We
felt
that
the
beach
at
busch
lake
was
an
aquatic
facility
that
was
serving
the
west
side.
O
O
Dog
parts
parks
again
is
something
that
we've
been
hearing
a
lot
from
about,
and
we
have
the
really
nice
dog
park
on
the
southwest
side.
We
are
looking
at
one
of
the
major
facilities
being
a
search
area
for
a
dog
park
and
we're
looking
along
the
utility
corridor.
I
think
that
could
be
a
really
great
spot.
O
O
So
I
think
the
utility
corridor
could
be
a
really
interesting
opportunity
and
just
really
quickly
on
the
dog
parks.
The
smaller
icons
represent
neighborhood
facilities,
so
these
might
be
areas
that
are
that
have
hockey
boards
up
in
the
in
the
summer.
That
could
be
used.
That's
currently
how
they're
being
used
or
hockey
hockey
boards
that
are
being
taken
down
like
at
hague
park
that
could
be
used
as
a
smaller
dog
park
facility
bike
skills
parks
and
pump
tracks
has
already
come
up
tonight
and
we've
definitely
heard
from
the
public
about
these.
O
O
Some
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
is
just
kind
of
the
geographic
distribution,
but
also
kind
of
locating
them
along
trails
that
we
felt
could
easily
be
accessed
and
I
think
we're
looking
at
having
a
variety
of
these
facilities,
so
not
all
of
them
would
be
the
same.
Some
of
them
could
be
geared
more
towards
mountain
biking,
but
some
of
them
could
be
kind
of
more
broad
and
based
on
mountain
bikes
and
attractive
to
mountain
bikes,
scooters,
skateboards
and
kind
of
have
an
appeal
for
a
wide
range
of
people
using
them.
O
And,
lastly,
looking
at
pickleball
and
one
of
the
amenities
that
we
don't
have
in
bloomington
here
is
cricket
fields.
We
know
that
there
is
cricket
being
played
informally
in
some
of
these
fields
and
we're
proposing
to
have
two
of
them
throughout
the
city,
and
we
want
to
get
some
feedback
on
where
you
think
those
might
best
apply.
O
O
Of
course,
another
major
part
of
that
is
programming,
not
only
those
sites,
but
just
the
facilities
that
you
currently
have
so
leon
younger
from
proves
consulting
is
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
programs
and
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing.
P
Thank
you.
Mayor
council,
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
share
our
insights
here.
We
did
an
assessment
of
the
core
programs
that
is
offered
by
the
city,
and
people
will
ask
well
what's
the
criteria
of
a
core
program.
Typically,
it
provides
a
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
is
expected
by
the
community.
P
The
program
area
consumes
a
large
portion,
at
least
five
percent
or
more
of
the
agency's
overall
budget.
The
program
off
area
is
offered
three
to
four
seasons
a
year.
The
program
area
has
wide
demographic
appeal.
There's
a
tiered
level
of
skill
development
available
within
the
program.
There's
you
usually
as
dedicated
full-time
staff
responsible
for
the
program
area.
P
P
That's
there
are
the
core
programs,
as
we
see
it
within
the
organization
that
you're
providing
to
the
community
now
excellent.
N
So
note
that
health
and
fitness
and
environment
in
nature
are
two
potential
new
core
program
areas
that
are
supported
by
the
statistically
valid
survey.
But
that
will
be
evaluated
kind
of
pursuant
to
the
recommendations
of
this
program.
P
So
what
that
looks
like
is
that
when
we
classify
services,
we
start
with
what's
essential
and
so
there's
an
expectation
across
all
cities
of
essential
services
that
protects
the
assets
and
the
infrastructure
is
expected
and
to
be
supported
by
sound
investment
of
public
funds
is
a
broad
public
benefit,
so
essential
services
are
like
special
events
where
everybody
has
the
same
opportunity
to
go
to
it.
It's
relatively
the
same,
there's
usually
no
cost
for
events.
It
brings
your
community
together
and
there's
an
expectation
by
the
community
that
the
city
will
provide.
P
It
then
there's
important
services
that
are
provided,
which
really
expands
or
enhances
core
services
broadly
supported
and
used
as
conditional
public
support.
There
is
an
economic
and
social
environmental
outcome
associated
with
that,
and
it
has
community
importance
and
it
needs
moderate
subsidy.
These
types
of
programs
offer
offered
provide
a
public
good
and
a
private
good
and
in
those
situations,
usually
those
incorporate
like
a
youth
sports
program.
P
It's
a
public
good
because
you
want
to
teach
life
skills
to
to
youth
in
different
types
of
programs,
but
there's
also
a
private
good
because
you're
providing
it
to
the
community
for
a
league
or
a
clinic
or
where
the
person
gets
the
private
good
as
well,
and
then
there's
value-added
services,
which
are
services
that
adds
to
those
programs
and
if
you
that's
more
private
focused
than
public
focused.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
kind
of
broke
this
out
from
the
assessment
of
the
recreation
programs
of
the
staff
working
with
the
staff.
P
So
when
we
classify
core
essential
programs,
you
can
see
on
the
left
those
programs
that
fall
into
those
areas
like
camp
coda
and
summer
adventure
playgrounds.
These
are
programs
that
are
adaptive.
Programs
that
are
typically
expected
by
the
community
has
strong
community
support
and
are
considered
essential
when
you
get
into
important
programs,
that's
just
public,
good
and
private
good.
P
You
can
see
that
the
programs
that
are
classified
there
through
staff
input
have
that
public
and
private
good
associated
with
it
and
then
the
next
slide
kind
of
has
those
programs
that
you
offer
that
are
value-added,
that
basically
like
I'll
use
a
picnic
shelter
as
an
example.
P
If,
if
the
picnic
shelter
is
come
first
served,
then
it's
it's
an
essential
service
because
everybody
whoever
gets
there
first
gets
the
shelter.
But
if
I
get
a
shelter
and
I
get
it
permitted
and
I'm
the
only
one
who
gets
to
use
it,
I
have
a
right
that
takes
away
from
somebody
else.
It's
still
most
picnic
shelters
are
still
supported
by
tax
dollars,
but
there's
a
there's
a
fee,
that's
associated
with
the
right
to
access
the
shelter
or
as
an
example.
P
If
my
daughter
has
a
wedding
at
one
of
the
parks
and
it's
exclusive,
the
intent
of
that
is,
I
have
exclusive
use
for
a
private
event.
What's
the
value
of
that,
and
in
most
cases
they
are
classified
as
services
that
the
user
would
pay
full
price,
and
so
those
are
listed
on
in
the
screen
there
on
the
right
that
fall
into
that
category.
P
Go
to
the
next
slide.
So
when
we
look
at
this,
when
we
look
at
core
essential
must
provide,
we
usually
broke
your
programs
down
how
we
viewed
it
and
got
feedback
from
your
staff.
That
currently,
right
now
about
nine
percent
of
your
of
the
programs
that
are
provided
by
the
city
are
essential.
30
are
important
and
61
are
value-added
and
the
on
the
left
of
the
screen
really
talks
about
kind
of
the.
P
How
the
essential
important
value
added
is
that
criteria
is
played
out
both
in
costing
of
the
of
the
service,
but
also
in
the
benefits
that
the
users
get
over
a
general
taxpayer
and
the
only
reason
we
bring
this
forward,
because
it
really
helps
to
the
staff
to
one
create
fairness
and
equity
across
the
city.
But
also
to
make
sure
that,
as
they
provide
services,
they
kind
of
run
through
this
process
and
then
seek
council
support
through
a
pricing
policy
that
addresses
this
classification.
P
So
across
the
city,
there
is
fairness
by
any
program
as
important
to
your
community
and
that
the
community
feels
would
benefit
them
either
on
a
private
basis
or
a
public
basis.
Next
slide.
P
So
when
we
talk
about
cost
of
curb
service
and
cost
recovery,
where
these
are
the
costs
that
are
typically
included
that
are
basically
direct
and
indirect
costs
and
one
of
the
recommendations
is,
we
would
do
recommend
that
you
do
a
full
cost
of
service
analysis
to
calculate
the
full
cost,
not
just
direct
cost
but
the
full
cost
and
then
work
towards
a
cost
recovery
policy
for
all
your
programs
and
facilities,
because
it
just
helps
create
the
greatest
level
of
consistency
across
the
system.
And
if
you
want
to
subsidize
programs
at
a
greater
level
or
not.
P
That's
that's
up
to
the
council.
But
more
importantly,
fairness
is
a
is
a
major
element
in
how
you
account
for
the
cost
and
in
doing
that,
that
does
demonstrate
direct
and
indirect
cost
across
the
system.
Next
slide.
P
So
kind
of
from
our
perspective
and
the
goals
we've
listed
out
all
the
program
areas
and
best
practices
and
cost
recovery,
so
an
adaptive
recreation.
Typically,
it's
zero
to
25,
usually
that
25
is
for
when
there's
something
that's
associated
with
transportation
or
a
special
need
beyond
like
beyond
what
you
would
normally
provide
in
the
program.
But
most
of
those
adaptive
programs
are
at
low
cost
or
no
cost
in
adult
athletics.
The
range
is
25
to
75
percent.
P
P
P
Look
at
evaluation
of
pricing
strategies
and
a
lot
of
times
pricing
strategies
can
be
dynamic.
In
terms
of
you
know,
public
versus
private,
prime
time
versus
non-prime
time
off
season.
P
P
I
call
many
business
plans
for
each
program
area
that
really
focuses
on
how
much
of
the
market
you
control
where
and
how?
What
cost
recovery
levels
that
you're
presenting
now
and
as
that's
where
the
council
sees
that
price
point
to
be,
who
benefits
and
then
really
targeting
maximizing
the
widest
eight
segment
appeal
for
programs
to
so
nobody
gets
left
out
and
then
incorporating
different
methodologies
to
encourage
people
to
use
your
programs
and
in
certain
ways
you
already
do
that
at
your
golf
course.
N
That
concludes
our
presentation
of
the
cost
recovery
goals,
kind
of
following
up
on
that
question
of
and
discussion
about,
program
fees
and
how
to
bring
fees
more
in
line
with
market
rate
and
and
better
support
investment
in
our
parks.
What
we're
seeking
feedback
tonight
on
are
the
ranges
where
we
placed
the
ranges
we
placed
on
the
core
programs
that
we
have
today
and
with
your
concurrence
council.
We
would
then
move
forward
over
the
next
year
with
the
recommendations
of
this
assessment.
N
Doing
many
business
plans
with
program,
staff
and
finance,
you
know
really
looking
at
true
costs
of
service
and
pricing
strategies
and
setting
cost
recovery
goals,
based
on
the
ranges
that
that
you
concur
on
and
then
using
that
when
we
put
forward
fees
as
part
of
the
annual
process
in
the
coming
year.
I
did
note
that
we
are
proposing
some
fee
increases
you'll
see
from
staff.
A
J
Thank
you
very
much
mayor.
I
I
very
much
support
kind
of
heading
in
this
direction
generally,
not
only
because
it
sounds
like
it's
something
that
would
have
been
helpful
to
be
doing
for
a
while,
but
the
revenue
this
generates,
how
much
that's
going
to
help
us
evolve
system
moving
forward.
I
guess
just
kind
of
two
quick
questions
I
noticed
kind
of
with
that
core
important
value
add
with
the
senior
programming.
Specifically
it
skewed,
pretty
heavily
towards
the
important
category
in
the
value.
Add
is
just
to
clarify.
P
You
want
me
to
take
that
renee.
Are
you
taking
please
well,
typically
in
senior
programs
most,
you
know,
there's
seniors,
make
up
40
of
or
40
years
of
a
senior's
life,
typically
55
to
95
or
60
whatever,
but
the
intent
is.
There
are
services
that
are
more
social
and
those
typically
are
at
low
cost
or
no
cost,
and
then
there
are
senior
services
that
are
much
more
health
and
fitness
related.
P
They
do
a
lot
of
trips
and
travel
programs
and
and
different
types
of
programs
that
are
more
individual
based
and
so
consequently,
usually
requires
kind
of
a
two-year
approach
to
programming
in
general.
And
how
much
is?
Is
it
a
private
benefit
to
the
senior
or
to
more
of
a
social
benefit
that
has
a
a
lower
level
of
expectation
and
cost
to
provide
the
service,
and,
and
so
by?
P
J
K
Thank
you
looking
at
some
of
the
charts
and
let's
pick
one
of
the
three
areas
that
I
want
to
talk
about,
and
those
three
are
aquatics
golf
in
the
ice
arena.
K
The
bandwidths
are
are
different
and
I
understand
why
they're
different,
but
as
a
baseline,
I
believe
that
the
bandwidths
would
include
capital
improvements.
Is
that
correct.
P
Did
you
mean
that
it
includes
the
capital
costs?
Yes
well,
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
today
with
the
finance
staff
was
I'm
not
sure
where
the
city's
philosophy
is.
What
I
find
is
most
cities
do
not
cover
the
capital
costs
within
the
program.
I
would
say
about
60
to
70
percent
of
the
agencies.
We
work
with
don't,
but
about
30
percent.
P
P
P
Secondly,
they
follow
that
process,
but
I
would
say
that
70
of
the
people
or
agencies
we
work
with
don't
incorporate
the
capital
cost
on
the
front
end
as
part
of
an
overall
cost,
but
then
they
do
on
the
back
end
of
it
have
a
replacement
program,
usually
in
the
three
to
five
percent,
to
have
onboard
capital
to
take
care
of
what
they
just
built
and
philosophically,
I
think,
that's
a
recommendation
that
needs
to
come
forward
that
that
become
something
that
the
city
sets,
especially
in
the
area
of
aquatics
and
the
ice
arena
and
golf
yeah.
K
P
K
Of
those
are
capital
intensive
and
that's
why
I
picked
on
those
and
I
think
at
some
future
time.
We
as
the
council
need
to
talk
about
that
expectation
because
we're
looking
and
it's
stretched
out,
but
there's
a
a
couple
proposals
coming
forward.
If
you
look
in
the
cip
one
for
aquatics
to
do
some,
you
know
restrooms
and
some
of
the
other
buildings.
K
I
think
it's
a
five
million
dollar
price
tag
in
the
next
two
to
four
years
and
and
that's
more
than
the
revenue,
probably
over,
that
same
span
of
time.
So
I
think
you've
got
a
gist
of
why
I'm
talking
about
this,
and
we
really
need
to
gain
a
good
understanding,
because
the
the
the
heart,
the
thing
that
I'm
having
a
hard
time
wrapping
my
mind
around
is,
is
when
we
say
it's
individually,
based
and
beneficial.
P
So
correct,
so,
if
somebody's
taking
a
golf
lesson,
why
should
the
taxpayer
pay
for
a
golf
lesson
or
a
tournament
right?
And
so?
But
the
big
thing
is
truly
understanding
your
costs
up
front
and
it
sounded
to
me
like
in
a
lot
of
the
situations
within
the
city
from
the
finance
director
today
that
she
said
that
that
they
do
incorporate
and
try
to
incorporate
the
capital
costs
associated
with
the
facility
and-
and
I
just
think
that
needs
to
be
ironed
out.
P
It's
hard
to
include
capital
costs
whenever,
when
a
facility's,
you
know
in
its
life
cycle,
is
in
its
downside,
because
you,
if
you
haven't
saved
for
that
money,
then
you
have
to
repair
it
with
updated
tax
dollars.
And
so
I
just
think
the
whole
philosophy
of
how
the
city
approaches
revenue
producing
facilities
needs
to
be
addressed.
K
Well
and-
and
our
approach
has
been
for
aquatics
golf
and
the
icer
arena
is-
is
to
call
those
enterprise
funds
right
definition
says
that
they
should
be
self-sustaining,
rather
than
tax
support
and,
of
course,
for
tax
supporting
each
of
them
to
a
greater
or
lesser
extent,
depending
upon
what
capital
improvements
are
made
at
that
time,
but
so
two
staff.
I
encourage
us
to
have
before
we
get
too
much
further,
particularly
on
these
three
items.
K
A
a
deep,
in-depth
discussion
on
what
our
expectations
are
and
what's
reasonable
for
cost
recovery,
and
then
we
can
also
look
at
that
and
apply
it
to
the
cip.
In
addition,
because
how
cost
recovery
comes
in
to
me
says
what
the
investment
priorities
should
be
for
that
area.
C
Lorman,
so
you
know
this
is
an
interesting
question
and
it
kind
of
brings
me
back
to
a
question
that
I've
asked
before
of
staff.
You
know-
and
maybe
it's
out
there,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
look
at
all
of
these
different
programs
and
things
that
we
provide
and
not
to
say
that
we've
got
to
compare
ourselves
to
other
cities,
but
I
am
interested
to
see
what
all
you
know
what
other
cities
provide.
C
You
know
from
a
you
know,
from
a
program
and
from
a
kind
of
service
kind
of
area
and
really
when
I
look
at
these,
the
idea
of
enterprise
fund,
you
know,
is
it
realistic
for
these
enterprise
funds,
as
they
were
to
be
self-sustaining
in
the
environment
that
we
have?
C
Do
you
get
to
a
point
where
your
cost
recovery
is
so
high
that
no
one
uses
your
amenities
at
all?
And
so
you
have
these
these
programs
and
these
things
that
are
available,
and
I
don't
I
wonder
what
is
that
price
point
you
know.
What
is
that
you
know
is.
It
is
if
we
look
at
certain
markets
are
certain
ones
of
these
areas.
C
Where
do
you
get
to
a
point
where
we
start
seeing
a
decline
in
those
folks
who
participate
and
then
further
to
that
question
with
the
demographics
that
we
have
within
our
city?
What,
when
do
we
get
a
to
a
certain
point
where
certain
folks
are
impacted
and
they
can't
participate
so,
whether
it's,
whether
it
be
social,
economic
constraints
or
just
widely,
just
just
different
demographics,
where
the
price
point
just
becomes,
I'm
not
interested
in
doing
that.
C
There's
other
places
where
I
can
can
go
and
take
on
that
that
service
somewhere
else
and
get
a
better
value
for
for
the
price.
That's
that's
out
there,
so
I
don't
know
if
that
at
all
is
helpful.
But
as
I
look
at
this,
you
know
first,
I
have
to
look
and
see
one.
You
know
yeah
what
where's
the
marketplace
for
this,
our
competitors
around
us
and
what
do
they
provide
and
what
what's
separate.
I
don't
know
what
that
that
that
noise
is
in
the
background.
C
It's
kind
of
distracting
me
sorry
folks,
but
but
that's
what
I'm
looking
at
when
I
look
at
these
these
particular
program
areas
and
how
how
how
we
should
look.
Look
through
each
one
of
these
program
areas
and
what
the
cost
recovery
should
be
those
factors
so.
P
P
Most
park
systems
have
a
philosophy
of
low
cost,
high
volume
and
then
most
of
the
time
they
look
at
a
prime
time
or
non-prime
time
and
so
that
they
don't
want
to
exclude
anybody,
and
most
agencies
set
up
a
some
kind
of
a
scholarship
program
or
a
discount
program
to
make
sure
that
nobody
gets
left
out
as
part
of
it,
either
their
park
foundation
or
through
a
friend's
group.
C
Thank
you
for
that
yeah
there's
more
to
it,
I'm
sure,
but
I
certainly
have
some
questions
about
that,
and
and
have
you
seen
it
where,
where
cities
pull
out
those
enterprise
funds,
make
those
separate
and
then
run
the
rest
of
the
programs,
because
that's
sort
of
where
I
keep
getting
tripped
up
here
is
I'm
looking
at
these
ones
that
are
in
here
they're
enterprise
funds
and
I'm
like
well,
technically,
you
know
these
should
be
at
a
different,
different
standard.
You
know
question
mark,
should
they
be,
and
then
you
know
these
other
ones.
C
You
know
what
what
do
they
need
to
be
at
so
that's
sort
of
where
I'm
at
when
I
look
at
this
and
there's
certainly
some
demographic
questions
and
there's
some
sustainability
questions
that
I
have,
and
certainly
we
need
to
have
that
in
the
policy.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
this.
Okay.
I
Nelson
thank
you
mayor.
I
have
a
question
just
in
terms
of
if
there
are
benchmarks
or
ways
to
measure
some
of
the
ancillary
benefits.
When
I
look
at
things
like
ice
arenas
or
even
just
general
athletics,
golf
things
like
that.
We
know
that
a
lot
of
people
come
in
for
tournaments
or
they'll,
come
into
our
community
from
neighboring
communities
and
go
out
to
eat
or
grab
a
beer
after
their
game,
or
something
like
that
is.
There
are
other
benchmarks
or
standards
or
ways
of
measuring
those
benefits
of
having
these
facilities.
P
That
demonstrates
the
economic
value
of
that
amenity,
on
retail,
on
spending
on
tournaments
in
town
on
food
service
and
things
that
basically,
they
that
you
are
getting
as
a
secondary
benefit
by
hosting
that
event
at
one
of
your
facilities
and
then
swimming
at
swim
meets,
and
you
know-
and-
and
you
understand
this,
so
the
biggest
thing
is
being
able
to
put
in
as
part
of
your
costing
program
and
economic
impact
assessment
along
with
the
pricing
program,
so
that
you're
capturing
both
not
just
the
cost
and
the
revenue
but
its
overall
impact
to
the
city,
especially
when
it
comes
to
tournaments
or
events
that
bring
people
in
and-
and
you
all
get
this.
N
N
In
coming
back
with
more
discussion
on
some
of
the
things
requested
and
using
applying
that
these
ranges
to
the
business
plans
which
will
be
under.
N
So,
unless
there's
objection
to
kind
of
that,
overall
framework
presented
staff
will
continue
to
gather
more
specific
information
on
developing
business
plans
with
true
cost
of
service
and
a
deeper
dive
discussion
on
some
of
those
enterprise
facilities
mentioned
where
we
are
in
the
process.
N
Just
as
we
wrap
up,
there
has
been
a
lot
of
community
engagement,
a
lot
of
analysis
and
plans
like
the
ones
we've
talked
about
tonight,
which
are
starting
to
inform
a
ci
pre,
a
cip
framework
and
prioritization
and
funding
which
we're
now
starting
to
see
so
look
for
more
information
as
we're
producing
kind
of
at
this
50
level.
More
more
detail
for
your
review
in
january
with
that,
thank
you
for
the
great
discussion
tonight.
I
know
we
went
far
over
time,
but
it
was
very,
very
helpful
for
staff.
G
Yeah,
I
guess
kind
of
both
thank
you
mayor,
so
you
know,
I
think
councilmember
belogo
was
alluding
to
this
too
in
his
comments.
But
mr
younger
mentioned
a
few
times.
You
know
park
philosophy
or
policy
related
to
kind
of
the
finance
piece,
and
so
is
the
idea
that
we
would
create
the
park
master
plan
and
then
we
would
kind
of
revisit
those
conversations
or
because
I
feel,
like
those
are
really
kind
of
high
level
big
picture,
strategic
conversations
that
we
should
be
having.
G
L
Uncle
member
carter,
members
of
the
council,
I'll
jump
in
on
that
one,
we
are
definitely
wanting
to
include
very
specific
recommendations
on
all
of
these
concepts
as
part
of
the
park
system
master
plan.
L
What
we're
doing
is
we're
working
with
leon
and
his
team
to
establish
best
practices
that
really
follow
in
line
with
the
national
recreation
and
park
association
standards
for
the
very
best
park
systems
in
the
country.
So
all
of
the
recommendations
that
leon
and
his
team
are
making
regarding
cost
recovery
and
everything
else.
That
leon
is
presenting
it's
to
fall
in
line
with
national
recreation
and
park
association
standards,
and
we
definitely
intend
to
continue
to
have
these
conversations
with
you.
We
keep
kind
of
building
on
the
conversations
as
we
go
through
this
process.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
I
will
say
thank
you
to
staff
and
thank
you
to
to
mr
aldrich
and
mr
younger
for
joining
us
and
for
sticking
with
us
later
in
the
evening.
I
think
you
anticipated,
but
I
appreciate
it
and
look
forward
to
continuing
to
see
the
work
that
you
produce
and
as
we
work
toward
the
the
completion
of
this
park,
master
plan,
which
is
looking
good.
I
think
it's
exciting
stuff.
So
thank
you
so
very
much.
A
Let's
move
on
to
item
3.4
on
our
agenda,
which
is
the
recount
petition
that
was
just
received
earlier
today.
I
believe
some,
a
group
of
citizens
asking
for
a
recount
on
question
three
on
the
ballot,
which
was
regarding
rank
choice,
voting
mr
verbrugge.
E
E
She
has
been
working
with
our
legal
team
to
understand
the
process
both
with
receiving
the
petition
and
also
to
estimate
the
cost
associated
of
conducting
the
recount,
as
was
indicated
to
council
there.
There
is
no
mandatory
recount
and
there's
a
there's,
a
margin
difference
that
needs
to
be
considered
in
terms
of
who
pays
for
the
cost
of
a
recount.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
chris.
At
this
time,.
M
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
jamie.
As
has
been
noted
earlier
today
late
this
morning,
the
city
received
a
petition
for
a
recount
of
ballot.
M
We
are
still
in
the
process
of
evaluating
the
petition
that
was
submitted.
It
needs
to
have
25
signatures
from
registered
bloomington
voters
and
meet
a
couple
of
other
different
standards
in
state
law.
It
has
a
significantly
more
than
25
signatures
on
it,
though,
so
I
think
the
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
it
to
meet
that
25
signature
threshold
as
we
go
through
and
verify
the
signatures
belong
to
registered
voters.
M
I
recognize
that
that
is
not
a
small
dollar
amount.
That
cost
estimate
works
on
the
assumption
that
it
will
take
four
teams
of
two
election
officials
per
team
working
for
40
hours
to
do
a
hand
recount
of
the
55
000
bloomington
ballots
that
were
cast
in
the
election
plus.
It
is
a
requirement
that
either
the
city
clerk
or
the
deputy
city
clerk
supervise
their
work
and
a
little
bit
of
ancillary
costs
to
move
and
secure
the
ballots
for
to
start
and
end
the
recount.
M
D
Thank
you
mayor
chris.
You
go
off
the
top
of
your
head.
What
so
the
you
told
us
how
many
more
votes
yes
received
than
no
but
the
the
result
is,
I
mean
the
reason
there
is
a
recount
is
because
it's
within
one
half
of
one
percent
of
51
percent.
You
know
offhand
just
what
what
the
the
vote
difference
is
between
what
what
yes
received
and
what
that
51
number
would
be.
M
D
M
That
is
a
good
question.
I
would
look
to
either
any
of
our
legal
counsel.
That's
on
the
line
to
know
if
they
know,
if
that's
public
information,
the
name
of
the
petitioner.
M
That
I
will
defer
to
peter
in
case
he
happens
to
know
the
answer
off.
L
The
top
of
his
head,
you
know
we
did
obviously
some
preparation
work
on
this
once
we
saw
the
election.
A
A
Okay,
ms
wilson
is
so
is
just
for
the
record
is:
is
this
a
mandatory
recount.
M
M
A
B
M
A
This
was
a
late
edition,
so
I
hope
you've
had
a
chance
to
take
a
quick
look
at
the
at
the
resolution
and
if
you
had,
I
would
look
for
a
motion
to
to
adopt
this
resolution
and
move
this
forward.
J
A
A
Oh
councilmember,
martin
made
the
motion
that
was
supplied
in
the
in
the
packet
was
to
adopt
the
resolution
setting
the
cost
of
a
recount
of
city
ballot.
Question
number
three.
G
Where
so,
just
to
clarify
you
know,
we
would
set
that
cost
and
then
that
cost
would
have
to
be
paid
before
any
work
would
be,
would
commence
in
terms
of
the
recounting.
A
Ms
wilson,
I
believe
it's
a
bond
that
needs
to
be
posted.
Is
that
correct.
A
G
B
A
Motion
carries
7-0,
so
if
we
have
the
adequate
number
of
signatures,
if
a
bond
is
posted,
we
will
be
doing
a
recount
on
ballot.
Question
number
three
regarding
ranked
choice:
voting.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
very
good?
A
E
Mr
mayor
council
members,
I
have
a
couple
items
one.
We
have
a
panel
talking
about
homelessness
on
wednesday
evening
at
six
o'clock.
E
The
city
can
the
if
residents
are
interested,
go
to
the
city
website
and
look
for
the
information
on
that
we
have
a
number
of
panelists
both
from
city
staff
from
county
and
some
service
agencies,
so
trying
to
broaden
people's
understanding,
especially
during
the
pandemic
of
how
the
of
how
the
homelessness
crisis
is
being
experienced
and
how
it
affects
communities,
it
should
be
a
good
panel.
E
As
we
work
out
details
with
the
state,
as
we've
seen
these
facilities
coming
online,
it
is
matching
the
great
demand
that
is
being
experienced
if
there
are
people
in
the
community
right
now
who
wish
to
be
tested,
the
nearest
location
is
going
to
be
at
the
airport.
E
They
have
a
quick
saliva
testing
process
there,
and
I
know
a
couple
folks
who
have
used
that
facility.
E
Already
and
it's
a
pretty
slick
setup,
so
if
there
are
people
who
are
looking
for
somewhere
to
go-
and
I
want
to
reiterate
a
message
from
earlier
tonight-
that
our
acting
public
health
administrator
shared
that
the
governor
minnesota
department
of
health
are
all
encouraging
anybody
between
the
ages
of
18
and
35
to
get
tested,
whether
you're
symptomatic
or
not,
it
is
really
important
to
help
control
the
spread
that
especially
young
people
get
in
get
tested
and
stay
safe.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
B
C
C
Woman
yep,
sorry,
maybe
just
didn't,
see
my
hand
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
so
just
a
quick
question.
I
got
an
email
kind
of
passed
down
through
me
about
some
work
that
was
done
on
on
some
restrooms
in
the
in
city
hall,
and
I
wanted
to
just
check
in
on
that
because
I
know
that
certainly
I
was
supportive
of
it.
C
I
just
happened
to
be
sick
that
day
back
on
monday
january
27th,
but
the
council
council
was
wiser
than
me
and
voted
it
down
that
night,
but
I
wanted
to
see
if
what's
going
on
with
that,
I
know
some
folks
who
had
some
questions
about
that.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
Certainly
just
help
me
understand
that
so
sure.
E
Mr
mayor
and
council
members
council,
member
lowman,
the
the
request
that
came
in
from
a
resident
was
asking
based
on
something
they
had
heard
from
somebody
else
who
had
been
in
our
facility
if
we
had
gone
ahead
and
proceeded
with
changes
that
were
considered
back
in
january
and
the
council
chose
not
to
proceed
with
the
project
at
that
time,
and
that
was
an
upgrade
of
the
restroom
facilities
in
civic
plaza.
E
The
answer
is
no.
We
have
not
proceeded
with
any
work
that
the
council
did
not
authorize.
The
the
person
said
it
was.
There
were
touchless
water
faucets.
We
have
we've
had
touchless
water
faucets
for
quite
a
while
in
our
facilities
and
the
only
changes
that
we
have
made
to
the
restrooms
first
early
in
the
pandemic.
E
We
added
shoe
plates
to
the
doors
to
allow
people
to
open
them
without
having
to
come
in
contact
with
the
handles,
and
the
other
thing
we
did
was
upgrade
lighting
to
add
led
lights.
It
may
be
that
somebody
was
in
one
of
those
restrooms
and
they
were
just
a
lot
brighter
and
more
more
welcoming
and
hospitable
than
they
remember
previous.
So
the
bottom
line
is
no,
we
have
not.
We
not
have
not
engaged
any
work
that
was
not
authorized
by
the
council.
C
And
you
know,
since
I've
got
the
opportunity
now
to
talk
about
it,
I
know
during
that
period
of
time,
back
way
back
on
january
27th.
One
of
the
concerns
that
staff
had
raised
during
that
period
of
time
was
some
ada
concerns
regarding
those
upgrades
that
were
going
to
be
made
now.
Certainly
the
building
is
closed
right
now
or
if
there's
not
is
utilized
as
much.
C
I
continue
to
be
concerned
about
those
those
upgrades
that
need
to
be
made,
especially
when,
as
it
relates
to
the
ada
piece,
and
so
I
want
to
just
take
this
opportunity
to
to
just
advocate
for
that.
I
know
at
this
point.
It
doesn't
make
sense,
but
I
want
to
be
sure
that
we
do
not
let
that
drop
off
of
our
off
of
our
priority
list.
A
A
Motion
passes
7-0.
We
are
adjourned.
Thank
you
much
to
the
staff
for
your
work
this
evening.
Thank
you
to
the
council
members
for
a
very
good
discussion
on
the
number
of
items.
Thank
you
so
much
and
thanks
to
everybody
who
tuned
in
this
evening,
we
got
a
little
late,
but
I
appreciate
you,
sticking
with
us
have
a
good
day.
Everybody
thank.