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August 21, 2023 Special Bloomington Minnesota City Council Budget Meeting
A
A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
I
would
like
to
call
to
order
this
special
meeting
of
the
Bloomington
city
council,
Monday,
August,
21st
2023,
thanks
to
everyone
here
in
the
chambers
and
everyone
watching
online.
This
is
a
meeting
where
we
are
going
to
talk.
Our
one
organizational
business
item
is
item
2.1,
we're
going
to
talk,
2024
preliminary
tax
levy
and
general
fund
budget
discussion.
It's
our
first
official
budget
discussion
as
a
council
for
the
season,
so
we're
going
to
dive
right
into
it.
A
We've
got
Kari
Carlson,
our
Deputy
finance
officer,
I
thought
you
were
the
budget
director,
a
budget
manager
or
anything
Newton
new
title
very
good
to
lead
us
through
this
and
Council
we're
going
to
go
through
it
and
I
hope.
You've
had
a
chance
to
look
through
the
the
package
put
information
there
and
a
good
starting
point
and
looking
forward
to
the
discussion
as
we
go
along,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Karen
good
evening.
Thank.
B
This
evening
on
the
agenda
I'm
going
to
go
over
the
budgetary
approach
for
2024.
talk
about
public
engagement,
that
we've
done
and
we'll
continue
to
do.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
some
Revenue
analysis,
expense
drivers.
We
have
a
working
model
to
share
with
you
for
preliminary
tax
levy
for
2024
and
then
talk
about
some
dates
for
the
budget
calendar.
B
B
B
They
were
different
days
of
the
week
different
times
of
the
week.
We
also
had
a
lot
of
department,
heads
and
council
members
joining
at
those
at
those
tables
which
was
wonderful
and
some
of
the
different
events
that
those
included
were
open
houses
like
the
Public
Works,
open
house,
the
police,
open
house,
kids
shows
outdoor
concerts
and
farmers
markets
so
places
around
the
city
where
there
were
a
lot
of
people
gathered.
B
So
to
date,
we've
done
10
of
those
events
we
started
in
May
and
we
have
had
interactions
with
over
600
residents
at
those
budget
tables
at
events
and
there's
still
three
more
to
go.
So
we
have
one
coming
up
this
weekend
on
August
26th
at
the
on
the
one
music
festival,
we're
going
to
be
at
a
another
farmer's
market.
B
We
have
something
similar
on
the
left
side,
Bloomington
site,
where
we're
asking.
Where
do
you
think?
What
do
you
want?
The
city
council
to
know
about
your
priorities
for
City
Services,
and
so
we've
had
a
lot
of
feedback
this
year
and
so
too
much
to
read
through
it
all
tonight,
but
I
did
include
that
in
the
public
agenda
that's
been
published
so
that
you
have
that
and
the
public
has
that
as
well.
B
So
here
are
the
results
to
date
of
what
we've
received
being
out
in
the
community,
and
you
can
see
these
six
different
categories
and
I,
as
I
said,
the
feedback
that
goes
along
with
this,
that
we've
been
Gathering,
just
free
form
feedback
as
published
in
the
council
packet,
so
the
the
one
that
has
had
the
most
chips
so
far.
25
is
the
category
of
Parts
Parks,
Arts,
Recreation
and
natural
resources,
and
so
then,
in
the
little
bullet
points
there.
We
enlisted
out
playgrounds,
Trails,
Recreation
programs,
Arts
programs
and
also
protection
of
Natural
Resources.
B
So
the
ice
Garden
facility,
the
Center
for
the
Arts
facility,
the
golf
course
a
clubhouse
at
Juan,
Community,
Health
and
Wellness
Center
roads
and
bridges,
sewer
and
water
that
has
received
about
16
percent
when
people
are
doing
this
budget
activity
and
then
the
third
category
there
Equitable
economic
growth,
which
included
the
sub
bullets
of
affordable
housing,
economic
growth,
that's
more
equitably,
distributed
expanded
diversity
and
business
ownership
and
Equitable
job
growth
for
workers
as
I'm
kind
of
reading.
Through
these
these
you
can
see.
B
These
are
aligning
with
our
strategic
plan
that
we
have
bloomington's
brought
together
and
that
had
12
percent
and
then
for
Public
Safety,
increased
Safety
and
Security,
including
police,
fire
dispatch
and
legal.
That
said,
23,
and
so
that
so
far
is
the
second
one
like
if
you're
looking
at
the
total
chip
amounts,
depending
on
the
different
events,
we're
at
those
seem
to
go
back
and
forth
a
little
bit
fifth
one
there.
Healthy
Community
includes
Environmental
Health
and
Human
Health,
and
that
has
about
14
and
then
the
last
one
connected
welcoming
community.
B
That
titles,
also
one
of
the
Strategic
priority
main
categories
and
the
people
can
connect
with
neighbors
they're
welcomed
by
the
city
and
residents
are
valued
so
that
one
had
about
10
percent.
So
that's
where
it's
coming
to
date
and
then,
if
we
go
to
this
is
the
online.
So
again,
there
is
I
think
28
pages
of
of
comments,
so
173
written
responses,
and
this
was
a
little
different,
we're
a
little
Limited
in
what
we
can
do
with.
B
Let's
talk
Bloomington
on
the
survey
so
what's
different
about
this,
is
there
when
you're
doing
it
in
person?
You
have
the
option
to
put
all
of
your
chips
in
one
category
or
leave
one
out
completely
when
you're
ranking
you
have
these
six
categories
and
you
would
rank
one
through
six
with
one
being
your
highest.
You
have
to
rank
them
all,
so
we
did
have
a
little
bit
of
feedback
about
that.
They
would
like
to
not
have
one
at
all
in
there,
but
they
did
so
to
complete
this.
B
You
had
to
rank
them,
and
so
for
this
one
it
is
very
similar
to
what
we're
seeing
when
we're
going
out
in
the
community.
But
it's
a
little
different,
so
this
one
Public
Safety
is
the
first
the
highest
priority
ranked
followed
by
Parks
Arts,
Recreation
natural
resources
and
then
the
other
ones.
There
are
actually
falling
the
same
way
as
when
we
go
out
into
the
community.
B
And
then
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
as
well.
You
know
we
heard
from
the
council
that
you
enjoyed
or
thought
that
it
was
a
good
idea
to
do
some
Video
Communications
to
get
out
into
the
public.
So,
as
you
know,
we,
the
City,
Assessor
and
Tim
Bulger
and
I-
did
a
video
back
in
February
to
give
information
about
the
property,
tax
statements
and
the
home
valuation
statements
that
were
about
to
come
out
in
March
and
then
the
Bloomington
Today
Show,
the
the
buzz
the
weekly
show
in
June.
B
They
featured
a
story
about
that.
We
would
be
out
in
the
community
and
about
the
left
side,
Bloomington
page,
and
so
we've
got
a
lot
more
communication
out,
so
that
residents
know
that
this
is
available
and
then
also,
of
course,
in
the
briefing
as
well
all
right.
So
that's
public
engagement
and
now
I'm
going
to
talk.
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
Just
one
quick
comment:
I
think
this
is
really
good.
Information.
I
did
have
a
conversation
at
the
Public
Works
event
about
sort
of
how
scientific
this
is
and
I
just
wanted.
To
reiterate,
this
is
not
a
scientific
survey.
This
is
a
casual
conversation.
People
come
there.
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
that
the
resident
raised
is
there
was
kids
putting
things
in
things
and
and
I
told
them
very
flat
out
like
well.
C
Kids
have
opinions
too
and
they're
members
of
our
community,
and
they
also
were
there
guided
I
Believe
by
their
grandparents
in
understanding
what
those
things
were.
But
these
are
not
it's
not
a
scientific
survey
of
how
they
rank
on
this
as
informal
but
I
think
informative
I
mean
the
the
consistency
between
the
two
different
methods
of
GRA
grabbing.
This
information,
I
I,
think,
does
tell
a
story
that
you
know
people
really
value
that
Public
Safety.
They
value
the
parks
and
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
there.
C
A
A
We
have
over
the
past
few
years
and
frankly,
we're
seeing
kind
of
the
same
results
with
our
statistically
significant
and
and
reasonable
and
official
and
robust
surveys
that
they
kind
of
match
up
with
what
we're
seeing
here
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
as
well,
but
more
than
anything
you're
exactly
right.
This
is
a
conversation
starter.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
express
opinions
to
talk
a
little
bit
to
meet
with
staff
to
to
basically
share
their
opinion
in
a
variety
of
different
ways.
So
councilmember
Lawman.
D
Basically,
on
the
same
lines,
and
all
this
is
a
non-scientific
piece,
one
comment
that
struck
me
as
I
was
reading
through
the
Anonymous
responses.
Was
that
that
people
could
fill
us
out
multiple
times
is
that
is
that
true?
Could
could
one
person
go
on
here
and
fill
out?
You
know
fill
out
10
times,
I,
don't
know
why
what
else
you
wouldn't
have
in
your
life
going
on
I
fill
out
these
things,
but,
but
is
that
a
possibility?
You
could
do
that?
Yes,.
B
Mayor
accounts
members,
councilmember
Lowman,
so
the
the
let's
talk,
Bloomington
survey
when
it
when
let's
talk
Bloomington
first
rolled
out,
it
was
very
locked
down
and
you
had
to
have
a
login,
username
and
password
in
order
to
fill
out
a
survey
and
the
communications
Outreach
engagement,
division
realized
that
was
hindering
a
lot
of
people
from
logging
on
and
and
filling
out
those
surveys
and
getting.
You
know
feedback.
So
for
this
survey
and
some
other
surveys,
they've
done,
they
took
that
off,
and
so
it
is
anonymous.
B
And
if
someone
didn't
want
to
go
on
there
and
do
it
multiple
times
they
could.
Hopefully
people
aren't
doing
that
significantly,
where
it's
really
skewing
the
data.
I
guess
also
they
could
do
that
if
they're
coming
to
our
budget
table
events,
although
I've
been
at
all
of
them
and
I,
don't
really
recognize
that
many
repeat
people
and
I
usually
remember
people
pretty
well,
but
but
that,
yes,
that
is
possibility
there
you,
you
could
theoretically
do
it
more
than
one.
D
And
then
in
that,
in
that
same
light,
there's
no
way
to
ensure
that
these
are
Bloomington
residents
either
right,
I
mean
I
I
can't
imagine
somebody
would.
You
know,
have
that
much
of
a
come
in
again
and
fill
this
out
or
show
up
to
a
table
in
Bloomington
to
to
fill
it
out,
but
just
just
so
we're
all
on
the
same
page
as
we
as
we
look
at
this
look
at
this
information
we're
looking
at
this.
You
know
obviously
mayor
you
stated
it
the
best.
D
A
B
So
here's
a
slide
with
one
of
the
a
large
amount
of
Revenue
that
comes
into
the
general
fund,
so
property
taxes
is
the
largest
amount
of
Revenue
that
comes
into
the
general
fund,
but
followed
by.
That
is
lodging
tax
revenues
and,
as
you
recall,
due
to
the
pandemic
that
plummeted
in
2020.
So
this
is
just
showing
what
happened
with
those
lodging
tax
revenues.
B
B
We
are
projecting
for
it
to
be
7.8
at
the
end
of
this
year,
I
just
how
things
are
looking
I
think
that
probably
will
be
higher
than
that,
but
that
is
what
we
budgeted
and
have
considerably
forecasted
right
now
so
based
on
the
trends
and
what
we're
seeing
we're
comfortable
that
for
the
24
budget,
that
we
have
that
forecasted
at
8.4
million
for
the
lodging
tax
revenue
and
that's
still
not
quite
up
to
2019
it's
about
97
of
that.
So
but
it's
looking
much
better.
B
B
And
then
that
this
would
be
interesting
to
share
as
well-
and
this
is
these
are
just
some
recent
months
of
some
analysis
that
we
received
that
we
that
assessing
shared
with
us,
and
so
what
this
is
showing
is
both
an
average
daily
rate,
a
dollar
amount
per
night
and
then
also
an
average
occupancy
percentage
and
so
on.
The
left.
B
There
is
May
and
then
they're
showing
that
as
a
percent,
we
keep
kind
of
looking
back
at
that
pre-pandemic
year
of
2019,
and
so
for
me
it
was
looking
really
good
as
far
as
far
as
a
percentage
of
rooms
occupied
compared
to
2019
and
then
the
the
revenue
percentage
that
the
average
daily
rate
was
looking
really
good
for
me.
So
that
was
a
great
month
and
then
June
was
even
better
and
part
of
that
is
that
Taylor
Swift
concert
effect
in
June,
but
I
just
thought.
B
And
then
Mission
tax
revenue
also
a
decent
amount
of
Revenue,
not
as
large
as
the
lodging
tax,
but
also
important
and
had
gone
down
quite
a
bit.
As
you
can
see,
it
went
from
1.7
million
down
to
about
400
000
in
2020
I,
think
most
of
that
was
before
things
shut
down,
but
that
has
also
come
back
and
has
gone
over
where
we
were
in
2019.
So
that's
a
really
great
story
and
2022
was
actually
higher
than
our
budget
and
then
we're
projecting
to
be
our
budget
is
1.7
million
for
23.
B
B
And
then
so
that
was
the
positive
news
for
for
revenues
and
and
this
I
don't
know
if
it's
necessarily
bad,
but
it's
just
affecting
our
our
budget,
is
that
the
permit
revenues
are
not
as
high
as
we've
seen
or
we're
not
projecting
them
to
be
as
high
as
we
as
we
have
seen,
and
you
can
just
see
there.
The
actual
numbers
in
2019
2021
2022
was
a
record
year
for
building
inspections.
B
In
part,
it
was
due
to
Industry
changes
for
remote
office
working
tenants,
reducing
their
footprint
led
to
higher
than
average
commercial
permits
from
tenant
remodels,
as
well
as
additional
an
addition
of
several
multi-family
development
projects,
including
this
Noble
Apartments.
That's
shown
right
there
and
then
also
with
higher
interest
rates
on
the
residential
side.
B
Homeowners
were
encouraged
to
do
to
kind
of
remodel
existing
homes
and
pull
permits
for
that,
as
opposed
to
moving
so
a
lot
of
different
factors
in
play
there,
but
for
2023
we're
only
projecting
4.9
million
and
then
even
less
in
the
2024
budget.
So
pretty
much
the
increases
that
were
going
that
were
forecasting
for
next
year
for
the
lodging
tax
revenue
and
the
admission
tax
revenue
are
kind
of
wiped
out
with
this
decrease
of
our
forecasting
for
the
permit
revenues.
Mr.
E
Babugi,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
Kari
on
the
2023.
We
don't
have
the
budgeted
amount
for
permanent
revenues,
we're
right
around
what
we
expect
to
bring
in
in
terms
of
what
we
budgeted
this
year
right,
so
we're
not
expecting
a
shortfall
this
year.
The
reduction
that
we're
looking
at
is
a
look
forward,
expectation,
correct.
B
F
Fix
Revenue
slide
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding,
so
the
one
before
this
yeah
okay.
So
you
were
saying
that
in
2023
we
projected
7.8
million,
but
we're
more
likely
going
to
be
above
that
so
and
then
2024
we're
budgeting
8.4
million,
but
I
thought
you
had
said
something
about
projecting
less.
Were
you
just
referring
to
2023.
B
B
Okay,
so
for
expense
drivers
in
the
budget
as
a
local
government
agency
public
servants,
a
large
part
of
our
expenses
is
our
people,
so
the
salaries
and
benefits
for
the
full-time,
part-time,
temporary,
seasonal
staff.
So
one
of
the
overall
high-level
expense
drivers
is
some
expected
labor
market
pressure
and
forecasting
competitive
salaries
and
benefits
that
just
needed
to
attract
and
retain
skilled
Personnel
for
the
city.
B
We
also,
as
you'll,
see
I'll
get
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
of
a
continued
commitment
to
Public
Safety,
as
we
are
transitioning
from
a
paid
on-call,
part-time
fire,
fighting
Department
to
hybrid
of
both
part-time
and
full-time,
and
then
just
inflation,
we're
seeing
economic
volatility
affecting
costs,
materials
and
services.
So
just
those
drivers
are
definitely
putting
pressures
on
increasing
expenses.
B
So,
as
I
said,
this
is
a
budget
still
focused
on
an
investment
in
our
Public
Safety,
so
it
was
just
a
refresher
from
last
year.
So
in
2023
we
added
21
new
full-time
firefighters.
18
of
those
were
are
funded
for
three
years
from
the
safer
Grant
through
FEMA.
This
budget
request
has
an
additional
six
full-time
fighters.
On
top
of
that,
then,
for
the
23
budget,
that
included
four
new
police
officers
and
a
new
dispatch,
employee
dispatch,
training
coordinator
and
then
in
24
budget.
That
also
includes
an
additional
dispatcher.
E
E
The
bottom
line
is
that
we
just
don't
have
the
financial
resources
to
make
that
significant
of
a
transition
in
only
a
couple
of
years.
So
this
is
a
long-term
plan.
This
is
the
second
year
of
the
implementation
of
that
plan
and
we're
going
to
see
these
Investments
subject
to
council
approval
for
the
for
the
next
probably
10
years.
B
So
this
is
just
expanding
a
bit
more
on
what
I
just
was
talking
about
with
the
21
firefighters,
the
four
police
officers
and
the
dispatch
training,
quality
assurance
coordinator
and
the
23
budget.
Also,
in
the
23
budget,
three
other
positions
were
added.
There
was
a
natural
resources,
part
keeper,
a
sustainability
specialist
and
a
human
resources
representative
within
this
is
in
the
general
fund.
B
I
am
in
the
2024
budget,
as
they
said
in
the
general
fund.
Some
proposed
Staffing
changes
is
to
add
additional
six
full-time,
firefighters,
one
additional
dispatcher
and
then
three.
So
these
would
not
be
new
positions,
but
it
would
be
changing
from
a
part-time,
Parks
and
Recreation
position
to
full-time
there's.
B
D
Thank
you
mayor.
So
when
we
look
at
that
driver's
slide,
I
think
there
were
three
different
pieces
there
and
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
So
if
you
don't
have
the
answer
for
this,
you
know
this
is
a
supplementary
conversation
about
it.
I
was
wondering
what
percentage
of
you
know.
If
we
look
at
these
drivers,
we're
saying
100
of
this
of
the
driving
change
would
be
you
know.
Would
it
be?
You
know,
50,
you
know
by
labor
market
pressures,
you
know,
or
would
that
be
20?
D
Did
you
have
a
sense
of
of
what
of
these
these
drivers
that
you
have
up
here
and
I
know
there
may
be
other
ones
that
are
not
listed
here.
I
know
you
probably
just
captured
the
the
three
top
main
ones,
but
I
just
want
to
have
a
better
understanding.
You
know
as
I.
You
know
as
we
look
at
these
things
and
we
contrast
that
with
the
mission
statement
that
we,
you
know
kind
of
had
earlier
and
how
that
is
an
obstacle
to
trying
to
accomplish
those
goals.
B
Yes,
mayor
council
members,
councilmember
Lowman,
there's
in
a
few
slides
I
have
a
some
ways
starting
to
look
at
that
and
how
that
how
you
kind
of
break
down
the
tax
levy
increase
by
department
or
by
category,
but
we
could
do
some
additional
work.
On
top
of
that.
To
get
you
the
detail,
you
need
that'd.
D
You
know
over
and
I
just
want
to
take
it
overall
and
if
I'm
looking
at
the
you
know
kind
of
I
like
the
way
that
we've
laid
this
out
at
the
very
beginning
of
this
is
we
have
you
know
our
mission
up
there
and
we're
trying
to
tie
that.
To
these,
you
know,
is
the
city
manager.
This
is
probably
more
a
question
for
you.
D
You
know
looking
at
you
know
what
our
mission
statement
is
around
that
connected
and
welcome
Community
a
healthy
community,
and
you
know
the
equity
growth
and
looking
at
each
one
of
these
positions
and
then
tying
those
to
that.
And
then
my
my
follow-up
question
is:
are
we
then
looking
at
other
Staffing
positions
that
maybe
don't
necessarily
fit
with?
You
know
those
three
things
and
looking
to
see
if
there's
a
way
to
you
know
over
time
phase
those
out,
because
those
are
old
commitments
that
we
made
in
the
past.
E
If
I
look
around
the
operations,
I
think
the
the
places
where
we
see
staff
above
and
beyond
what
we
might
call
the
core
services
in
our
core
departments
or
in
our
community
outreach
and
engagement,
division
or
office
of
racial
equity
and
inclusion
and
belonging,
and
those
are
directly
connected
to
the
work
that
the
council
has
been
doing
as
part
of
its
strategic
plan
over
the
last
six
years
or
so
so
beyond.
That
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
budget
proposal
is
continue.
E
The
level
of
services
at
their
current
level
and
that's
our
current
Staffing
complement
and
then
continue
to
make
these
investments
in
public
safety.
These
couple
other
positions
that
were
highlighted
in
here
we'll
we
can
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
when
we
get
into
the
department
reviews,
but
they
are
also
tied
to
both
service
level
and
the
Strategic
plan
and
how
we're
trying
to
enhance
the
services
that
we're
providing
through
Recreation
programming,
especially
and
volunteerism
in
the
community
and
coordinating
volunteers.
E
E
A
rigorous
process
three
years
ago,
during
the
pandemic,
with
our
our
budget
advisory
committee
that
went
through
each
of
the
Departments
and
looked
at
the
level
of
services,
and
we
made
dramatic
changes
in
2020
going
into
2021,
based
on
the
recommendations
of
the
budget
advisory
committee,
and
we
did
see
reductions
in
both
our
operating
staff
and
also
some
of
the
services
that
we
provide.
So
we
have
not,
over
the
last
couple
years,
just
tried
to
bring
those
programs
or
those
positions
back
what
we
have
done
when
adding
staff
is
look
at.
E
D
You
for
clarifying
that
I
know
earlier
we
had
a
conversation
about
DMV
because
I
don't
know,
there's
are
some
folks
that
are
still
out
there
are
asking
about
that
and
I
think
really
what
I
think
the
question
is
that
folks
have
and
I
think
you've
answered
this.
Is
you
know
at
that
point
in
time
we
were
cutting
positions
for
you
know
for
a
reason,
and
now
you
know
we're
adding
different
positions,
and
so
you
know
the
question.
D
Obviously
you
know,
as
folks
are
faced
with
the
the
pressures
of
inflation
and
with
the
shrinking
family
budget.
We
saw
that
inside
of
the
surveys
there.
You
know,
why
can't
you
know
our
city
control,
our
our
our
budget
is
the
kind
of
the
question
you
know
and
so
I.
You
know.
I
I've
also
seen
on
many
occasions
that
other
cities
are
also
dealing
with
the
same
pressures
as
well
and
I.
Wonder
if
the
manager
would
would
talk
about
that
at
all.
E
G
C
E
B
B
Sure.
If
you
look
through
the
comments,
there's
there's
definitely
a
concern
about
disease
trees
in
Bloomington
and
also
forestry
in
general,
but
that
is
an
amount
that
we've
been
setting
aside
for
a
while.
Knowing
that
the
emerald
ash
brown
boar
disease
was
going
to
be
spiking
and
we're
definitely
spiking
right
now,
the
fire
pension
fund
is
a
special
Revenue
fund.
It's
had
some.
B
It
had
some
good
investment
years
for
a
while
there,
where
we
did
not
have
to
aren't
the
city's
obligation
to
that
fund
was
not
as
high
as
it
has
been
in
the
past,
so
we
did
actually
bring
that
down
last
year
from
one
million
to
fifty
thousand,
but
to
down
to
one
million.
We
are
bringing
that
back
up
again.
B
Last
year's
results
did
not
end
as
favorably
as
it
had
in
the
past
for
the
fire
pension
with
their
Investments
for
the
aquatics
fund
that
we're
bringing
that
up
again
slightly
again.
That
was
a
reduction
of
that
amount
and
the
23
tax
levy,
and
that's
because
we've
had
some
really
great
Summers
for
pools,
so
hot
dry
Sunny,
so
they
were
having
some
good
revenues,
but
as
far
as
budgeting,
you
can't
always
sometimes
we've
had
some
really
wet
Summers
that
have
been
really
bad
for
the
pool
as
well.
B
So
we
kind
of
just
take
a
historic
average.
So
right
now
we
have
that
coming
back
up,
there's
a
million
dollars
that
is
set
aside
for
the
art
center
fund
and
we
have
that
at
the
same
amount
for
the
golf
fund,
the
when
we
started
having
a
property
tax
subsidy
for
golf,
it
was
to
address
the
losses
that
we
were
seeing
for
the
Highlands,
Golf
Course
and
so
for
a
while.
B
We
were
had
that
amount
to
kind
of
help
with
the
deficit
for
for
Highland
and
so
that
amount
that
we
have
in
the
2024
tax
levy
amount,
would
kind
of
wipe
out
the
rest
of
the
deficit
that
we
had
for
Highlands.
So
we're
bringing
it
down
to
just
the
amount.
That's
left
there
for
the
ice
Garden.
We
are
keeping
that
at
125
000
for
the
property
tax
Lefty
for
operations
to
help,
and
then
the
final
one
is
it's.
B
A
tax
abatement
amount,
that's
part
of
the
property
tax
levy,
and
that
has
to
do
with
kind
of
road
construction
projects
that
are
in
the
Normandale
Lake
District
area,
and
so
we
had
brought
that
down
quite
a
bit
during
the
pandemic.
Looking
for
some
budget
savings,
that
was
something
that
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
supported
and
the
council
so
supported.
B
So
that's
what
what
consider
the
general
revenues
and
then
The
Debt
Service
amount.
It's
not
a
major
increase
compared
to
some
other
years.
If
you
recall,
in
23,
we
had
two
years
of
bonding.
We
knew
interest
rates
were
Rising,
so
that's
kind
of
having
a
bit
of
an
effect
in
the
in
what
we
have
right
now
that
we
need
to.
B
It
just
and
that's
what's
sometimes
hard
to
convey
or
explain
to
the
public
that
a
lot
of
times
what
happens
with
the
overall
property
tax
levy.
Change
does
not
equate
to
what's
happening
like
for
the
median
value
home,
for
example,
so
with
with
how
the
commercial
values
increase
in
comparison
to
the
residential
values.
For
this
latest
assessment,
if
you
call
when
we
were
back
here
in
April
and
the
City
Assessor
Tim
Bulger
explained
that
has
a
favorable
effect
for
the
median
value
home
for
2024..
B
H
H
Quick
ones
for
you
and
I
apologies
if
this
lives
elsewhere
in
the
presentation
with
Communications
I
know
with
continuing
questions
around
reduction
in
franchise
fees.
Supporting
a
lot
of
that
work
is
that
in
there
as
a
placeholder
held
flat
at
400
Grand,
or
do
we
have
an
idea
if
we're
going
to
see
additional
Revenue
reductions
coming
in
from
franchise
fees.
B
Yes,
Mr
mayor
council
members,
council,
member
Martin,
we
have
a
long-term
model
for
the
communications
fund
and
we
will
share
that
in
more
detail
with
the
city
council
later
in
the
year.
But
we
in
that
long-term
model
we
are
seeing.
We
are
forecasting
that
the
franchise
feeds
are
not
are
kind
of
staying
flat
or
not
increasing,
much
or
maybe
even
reducing,
and
so,
when
you're,
looking
at
the
long-term
model,
that
property
tax
increase
is
growing.
B
And
you
know
some
of
the
the
expenses
that
are
in
there
when
we
started
having
property
tax
subsidizing
that
Communications
fund
one
of
the
drivers
there
was
having
a
monthly
briefing
newsletter
and
that
did
incur
a
lot
more
expense,
but
I
know
when
I'm
out
in
the
community
and
I'm.
Probably
probably
a
lot
of
you
hear
this
too,
that
a
lot
of
people
tell
me
that
they
get
most
of
their
information
from
the
briefing
and
they
really
enjoy
that.
B
So
I
think
it
is
a
good
way
to
get
information
out
to
the
community
more
on
a
monthly
basis,
but
we're
kind
of
we're
kind
of
watching
to
see
what
happens.
There's
two
different
kinds
of
revenues
that
are
coming
into
the
communications
fund.
So
one
is
the
franchise
fees
and
that
is
based
on
the
cost
to
the
cable
subscribers
and
as
their
rates
go
up,
it
does
increase
the
amount
of
Revenue
that's
coming
in
and
so,
but
as
people.
B
H
Gotcha,
thank
you
and
mayor
if
I
may
take
one
more
on
there
briefly,
this
might
be
more
for
the
city
manager.
Just
to
refresh
my
memory
I
know
in
previous
years,
and
especially
coming
out
of
the
pandemic,
we
had
committed
to
a
tax
levy,
stabilization
fund,
that
we
were
going
to
be
kind
of
Doling
out
over
time
to
buy
down
these
increases,
just
where
that
is
at,
if,
if
anywhere
and
what
the
trajectory
may
be,
if
we've
got
funding
for
future
years,
sure.
E
Mr
Mayor
and
council
members
council,
member
Martin,
the
tax
levy.
Stabilization
amount
is
remaining
constant
at
1.1
million
dollars
and
that's
a
transfer
from
our
strategic
priorities
fund
into
the
general
fund.
We
had
hoped
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
sort
of
gradually
ease
that
down,
but
given
the
budget
pressures
that
we
have
we're
going
to
rely
on
the
Strategic
priorities
fund
for
another
several
years
to
be
able
to
manage
through
that.
C
Thank
you
a
couple,
quick
questions
here
golf
you
indicated
that
the
tax
subsidy
or
the
the
tax
levy
was
for
paying
down
the
previous
debt
from
Highland
and
and
maybe
I,
don't
need
an
answer
to
this
right
now.
I
just
hadn't
seen
that
in
the
budget
when
I
was
looking
through
the
2023
budget
book,
so
maybe
I'm
just
not
understanding
where
that
shows
up
on
that
on
that
the
budget,
that's
in
our
budget
book.
B
So
mayor,
council,
members,
council,
member
Nelson,
so
in
the
golf
fund
that
was
comprised
of
both
dwan
and
Highland,
and
so
when
we
it's
just
one
find,
it
only
has
one
fun
balance
and
when
we
are
looking
at
the
budget
in
the
long-term
model,
we
were
breaking
out
the
fund
balance
for
golf
between
Highland
and
one
and
on
a
on
a
long-term
model.
So,
and
we
can,
we
can
share
this
with
Council,
like
what
that
looks
like.
B
So,
even
though
there's
still
cash
in
the
in
the
it
didn't
go
like
overall
golf
did
not
go
negative,
but
dwan
was
sort
of
carrying
Highland
so
with
the
revenues
over
expenses
that
they
were
making.
So
we
were
forecasting
that
out-
and
we
were
we've
been
tracking
and
with
the
property
tax
subsidy
that
we're
bringing
in
we've
been
using
that
to
add
back
to
the
negative
balance
that
was
offsetting,
dwan's,
more
positive
balance
in
that
of
cash.
So
each
year
that's
getting
a
bit
better
and
now
we're
not
having
any
activity
for
Highlands.
C
The
reason
I
ask
I
mean
when
I'm
looking
at
it.
We
have
salaries
and
benefits,
we
have
Material
supplies
and
services
and
we
have
Capital
outlays,
so
I
just
don't
see
in
the
expenses
in
there
where
that
money
is
going
to
that
working
capital
and-
and
so
maybe
that's
just
something-
I
need
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
individually.
Understanding,
Mr,
ruge,
yeah.
E
C
C
B
So
Mr
Mayor
and
council
members
councilmember
Nelson
they
do
require
a
that
is
that
tax
subsidy
of
125
000
is
needed
for
operations
and
then
The
Debt
Service
amount
for
the
ice.
Garden
is
included
in
that
bottom
line.
There
it's
separated
out.
So
when
we
have
to
report
our
property
tax
levy,
it
has,
if
it's
part,
if
it's
paying
back
debt,
it
has
to
be
separated
out
in
that
line,
so
that
189
000
is
within
that,
like
7.4
million
there
at
the
on
this
table
that
we're
looking
at
okay.
C
Thank
you
for
helping
me
understand
that
and
then
last
question
I
had
to
strategic
priorities
was
mentioned
previously
in
the
levy.
Are
we
levying
for
additional
money
to
go
into
strategic
priorities?
Understand
we're
drawing
it's
some
down
for
stabilization,
but
are
we
also
on
the
flip
side,
Levine.
E
Mr
Marin
council
members,
council,
member
Nelson,
we
have
in
the
past
levied
funds
to
go
into
strategic
priorities.
We
have
done
that
around
300
to
500
000.
Previously,
we
are
not
recommending
that
we
Levy
for
strategic
priorities
this
year
good,
and
that
was
it.
We
started
this
process
assuming
there
would
be
a
component
of
the
levy
going
into
the
Strategic
priorities
fund,
but
based
on
where
we're
at
right.
Now,
if
that
was
one
of
the
first
reductions
that
we
made
okay.
A
Great,
thank
you
appreciate
that
information
and
one
more
quick
question
before
we
move
on
looking
at
the
ice
Garden,
the
125
thousand
dollars
so
Debt
Service
aside,
and
if
it
should,
if
the
the
local
sales
tax
should
pass
and
the
improvements
are
made,
will
there
be
enough
efficiency
found
in
the
more
efficient
systems,
the
more
efficient
cooling
everything
that
goes
on
to
reduce
that
125
000?
That
is
needed
for
operational
cost
foreign.
E
D
And
let's
move
on
yeah
thank
you
mayor.
So
I
know
that
in
the
last
budgetary
Levy
last
year
we
ran
into
an
issue
where
some
of
the
homes
that
were
underneath
that
median
value
saw
a
substantial
increase
to
how
much
they
had
to
pay
in
comparison
with
those
that
were
over.
That
median.
Do
we
think
that
we're
going
to
see
that
same
experience
this
time
around
or
is
it
now
we've
gotten
to
a
point
where
that's
leveled
out,
and
we
won't
see
that.
E
E
But
we
can
certainly
do
that
and
show
you
what
you
know
some
one
of
the
houses
and
maybe
the
lowest
quartile,
and
maybe
one
of
the
upper
quartile
would
be
looking
at
just
by
pulling
an
example
but
the
I.
So
I
don't
know
if
any
of
those
quartiles
are
moving
differently
within
the
sales
assessment
adjustments.
That's
something
we'll
ask
our
assessor.
If
he's
seeing
a
certain
Market
segment,
that's
moving
differently,
I
think
intuitively.
What
we
know
is
that
the
the
the
less
expensive
homes
in
the
community
I
think
are
increasing
in
value.
E
Probably
a
little
faster
than
the
other
segments
are
just
because
of
the
demand
for
entry-level
housing
and
we've
heard
information
before
and
presentations
from
our
housing
team
that
you
know
we
have
fewer
than
100
homes,
I
believe
now
that
are
less
than
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we're
gonna
see
those
probably
pretty
disappearing
from
the
market
pretty
soon,
just
because
of
those
valuation
increases.
So
we'll
work
with
the
assessing
team
and
see
what
kind
of
information.
D
I
understand
that
it's
very
similar
to
the
survey
that
we
looked
at,
that
it's
kind
of
it
can
be
misleading.
It's
not
scientific,
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
I
think
we're
going
to
be
careful,
as
as
we
couch
that,
but
I
think
the
thing
I
think
I
believe
this
is
councilman
Nelson.
You
brought
this
up
last
last
time
cycle
around
and
so
I
would
be
interested
to
see
if
we
could
look
at
those
comparisons
from
the
year
previous
to
this
year.
D
If
there's
a
way
to
look
at
those
same
those
same
Homes
at
all
and
to
see
what
those
comparisons
were
just
for
the
impact
just
so
we
can
understand,
I
know
that's
one
of
our.
You
know
we
talked
about
that
mission
that
we
talked
about
the
very
beginning.
You
know
in
terms
of
so
I'd
be
interested
in
that
thanks.
A
B
So
here's
just
some
other
ways
to
break
down
the
median
value
home
impact,
so
a
9.49
increase
for
the
property
tax
levy
would
equate
to
85.65
increase
for
the
median
value
home
and
then
also
for
the
median
value
home.
That's
a
dollar
45
more
per
week,
6.28
cents
per
month,
more
or
75
dollars
and
34
cents
per
year.
B
B
But
you'll
see
some
kind
of
dramatic
things
happening
that
I
want
to
explain.
I'll
just
start
off
at
the
top.
The
reason
that
Community
Development
seems
like
such
a
large
increase
for
a
tax
levy
is
because
so
taxes
are
not
the
only
type
of
Revenue
that
come
into
the
general
fund.
As
I
said,
there's
the
lodging
tax
and
you
know,
there's
grants,
there's
admission
tax
and
the
permit
revenues
and
the
permit
revenues
when
we're
looking
at
a
tax
levy
impact
by
Department
those
permanent
revenues.
B
Permit
revenues
are
in
Community
Development
so
since
their
revenues
have
gone
down
so
much
like
the
amount
of
taxes
that
they
require
to
support,
the
service
has
increased.
If
that
makes
sense.
So
that's
why
Community
Development
looks
has
a
part
of
this
increase
in
tax
levies
is
basically
because
our
here
shown
with
Community
Development
is
that
permit
Revenue
reduction
and
then
Parks
and
Recreation
and
public
works.
It
looks
like
Parks
and
Recreation.
Has
this
huge
increase
in
public
works
is
going
down
significantly,
and
that
is
because
the
park
maintenance
division
has
moved.
B
They
actually
moved
this
year
physically
or
as
far
as
how
they're
reporting
is
in
Parks
and
Recreation
so
park
maintenance
is
now
part
of
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
instead
of
Public
Works
and
in
the
2023
budget
it
was
part
of
the
Public
Works
budget.
So
that's
a
little
over
seven
million
dollars.
B
That's
like
4.6
of
that
9.49
increase
there.
So
that's
split
out
by
Department,
okay
and
then
also
just
trying
to
kind
of
take
that,
knowing
that
there's
revenues
involved
too,
it's
not
just
property
tax
revenues,
but
taking
all
that
in
and
trying
to
kind
of
break
that
out
by
how
that
breaks
down
my
category.
B
So
most
of
it
is
salaries
and
benefits,
most
of
it
as
people
and
that's
5.3
percent.
Then
we
have
internal
charges.
So
you
know
the
other
fund
budgets
that
we'll
be
looking
at
like,
for
example,
you
know
the
facilities
is
a
big
one
facilities
funds
internal
service
fund
that
is
charred,
has
charges
into
the
general
fund
and
Fleet
as
well
as
it.
B
G
E
Brewery,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor
and
council
members.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
again
on
on
the
salaries
and
benefits
costs.
That's
not
saying
that
across
the
board,
employees
are
getting
more
than
a
five
percent
increase,
so
we
have
an
amount
that
we're
working
toward
for
our
negotiations
in
2024.
Not
no
one
has
shared
with
you
publicly.
What
does
what
that
amount
is
because
we're
in
the
middle
of
negotiations,
but
we
do
have
a
Compensation
Plan,
where
many
of
our
employees
are
still
within
their
salary
range.
E
So
for
all
of
our
jobs,
you
know
there's
what
people
start
at
and
then
there's
a
maximum
that
they
can
work
toward
within
their
their
pay
grade
and
they
move
through
that
range.
So
the
you
know
the
difference
here
between,
like
a
normal
cost
of
living
adjustment
in
a
given
year,
is
about
three
percent,
that's
sort
of
just
like
the
inflationary
increase
every
year.
The
additional
amount
that
we
see
is
the
cost
for
step.
A
E
E
F
To
the
previous
slide,
going
back
to
the
conversation
around
Parks
and
Rec
and
public
works
I'm
curious
because
it's
not
you
know
it's
not
a
totally
equal
transition.
So
there's
about
a
three
percent
difference
and
I'm
wondering
what
that
additional
three
percent
is.
So
what
is
outside
of
the
public
works?
The
park
maintenance
piece.
B
Sure
so,
mayor,
council,
members,
councilmember
Carter,
so
definitely
within
that
as
well.
I
think
police,
the
police
department
and
the
public
works
department
typically
have
the
they
have
the
largest
amount
of
employees.
So
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
be
salary
and
benefit
increases
for
the
both
their
full-time,
part-time,
seasonal
costs
and
and
also
equipment
charges,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
the
like
salt
and
supplies
that
they
use
in
public
works
and
all
of
those
costs
that
have
been
going
up.
Those
increases
are
within
there.
D
D
So
I'm,
looking
at
this
here
and
so
I'm
thinking
about
fire
stations,
I
know
at
one
point
a
while
back.
We
had
all
those
Capital
expenses
that
we
had.
You
know
laying
out
I
think
we
had
a
big
big
chart.
I
have
it
somewhere
on
my
want
home,
I
wouldn't
be
here
right,
that'd
be
or
that
be,
would
that
be
in
The,
Debt
Service
or
where
would
that?
What
would
that
be
yeah?
My
something's
coming
down
the
line
here.
B
E
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
not
as
a
Counterpoint
per
se,
to
the
comment
that
councilmember
Lowman
made,
but
data
I
was
just
looking
at
from
my
company
says
that
most
folks
are
well
most
folks.
Folks,
in
certain
industries,
anyway,
are
budgeting
about
a
4.1
percent
increase
in
salary
for
2023.
So
it's
not
as
far
off
as
we
think.
B
Okay,
so
the
last
thing
I
have
here
is
just
I've
shared
this
with
you
before,
but
just
bringing
this
budget
calendar
forward
and
we're
have
worked
our
way
a
little
way
through
it
from
the
last
time,
I
shared
it
back
in
April,
so
we've
had
the
kickoff
we
have
had.
You
know
the
lockout
of
the
Departments
entering
in
their
requests
and
reviewing
everything.
B
So
this
what
I've
done
tonight
has
been
very
high
level
and
that
will
go
into
into
depth,
especially
like
in
fire
and
police
and
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
then
November
is
when
the
2024
utility
rate
public
hearing
is
will
be
scheduled.
We'll
have
another
meeting
very
similar
to
this
in
on
November
20th
I'm,
getting
ready
to
have
the
council
hone
in
on
the
final
tax
levy
and
budget
and
then
the
truth
in
taxation.
Public
hearing
for
the
2024
tax
levy
is
scheduled
for
December
4th
and
then
all
along
there.
We
have
public
engagement.
I
You
Mr
Mayor
I,
had
a
quick
question
on
this
particular
slide
on
the
on
the
engagement
stuff,
obviously,
post
tonight
there
will
be
a
point
of
view
in
the
public
sphere.
What
are
you
doing
differently
in
your
Outreach
over
the
course
of
the
these?
You
know
the
September
October
time
frames
that
you're
that
are
more
pinned
in
on
hey
here's,
what
we
proposed.
I
B
Mr
mayor
council
members,
councilmember
dalessandro,
oh,
that
that's
a
good
idea.
I
had
not
planned
on
changing
what
we
had
for
the
the
budget
tables,
but
we
could
easily
make
a
handout
just
talking
about
where
we
are
proposing
it
right
now
and
that
making
sure
that
everyone
is
aware
that
the
preliminary
budget
will
be
set
on
September
18th.
So
we
could
put
something
together
easily
even
in
time
for
the
Saturday.
For
our
next
event,.
I
Yep,
if,
if
I'm,
if
it
makes
sense
what
I'm
asking
about
it,
it's
just
I
would
like
if
we
could
pin
it,
you
know,
come
a
little
bit
closer
in
right
on
our
pinning
down
like
okay,
here's
what
we're
thinking!
What
do
you
think
and
and
give
people
the
opportunity
to
react
to
that
and
also
ask
questions
about
it
right
that
we
may
not
get
from
our
constituents.
F
I'm
I
just
have
a
quick
question
so
last
year,
when
we
were
having
these
conversations,
we
had
talked
about
sidewalk,
snow,
plows
and
I
noticed
that
that
has
not
been
a
part
of
the
conversation
this
year.
As
of
now
and
I,
think
we
all
remember
that
that
was
a
frequent
issue
that
we
heard
about
this
last
winter
and
I
know.
F
Part
of
it
is
just
that
the
snow
melts
and
it
turns
to
water,
and
then
it
freezes
and
it
turns
to
ice,
and
even
if
we
had
the
snow,
plows
I,
don't
know
how
helpful
those
would
be,
but
I'm
curious
in
the
current
proposed
the
preliminary
or
yeah.
The
preliminary
Levy
are
the
sidewalk
snowplows.
No.
Okay.
All
right
is
Staff
working
on
some
kind
of
maybe
solution.
Innovative
solution
around
this
issue
that
may
have
cross-associated
or
are
we
just
kind
of
at
a
TBD
point.
G
C
Thank
you
mayor
just
a
few
questions.
A
couple
years
ago,
we
we
hired
someone
to
do
grants
and
sort
of
the
expectation
was
that
at
some
point
they
would
start
to
bring
in
additional
Grant
revenue.
Is
it
possible
to
get
information
about
if
we're
getting
additional
Grant
Revenue
through
that
position?
How
much
is
there
more
that
we
can
do
in
that
area?.
E
Janitor
is
a
grant
person
and
she
has
been
I
would
say,
almost
exclusively
focused
in
the
first
year
year
and
a
half
on
our
grant
on
the
Regulatory
and
Reporting
aspect
of
managing
our
grants.
So
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
point
yet,
where
she's
actively
working
to
go
out
there
and
secure
or
apply
for
other
grants
working
with
departments.
To
do
that,
that's
it's
on
our
work
plan.
We
don't
have
the
capacity
for
it
just
yet.
Okay,.
C
And
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
from
our
previous
conversations,
the
the
big
burden
was
the
federal
grants.
Obviously,
that
were
extraordinarily
large
dollar
amounts
that
had
a
lot
of
burden
in
terms
of
compliance,
so
I
hope
my
hope
is,
as
that
unwinds
I
mean.
Obviously
we
won't
be
getting
that
money,
but
that
that
will
free
up
some
time
to
go
after
some
additional
money
out
there
so
appreciate
that
you're
working
on
that
Community
Development
dropping
down
to
revenues
I
mean
to
3.9
million
it.
C
At
what
point
do
we
look
at
expenses
if
we're
going
to
be
33
percent
below
where
we
were
previously
in
terms
of
the
number
of
projects
and
permits,
and
things
like
that?
Obviously,
if
we
don't
have
the
permit
Revenue,
that
probably
means
we
don't
have
the
projects
that
probably
means
that
there
just
isn't
quite
the
workload
there
and
is
that
something
that
that
we're
looking
at
going
forward?
Or
is
this
just
a
temporary
blip.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
mayor
council,
members,
council,
member
Nelson,
that's
a
really
good
question
and
I
think
the
thing
that
sometimes
folks
don't
understand
when
they're
thinking
about
these
permit
revenues.
Is
that
our
our
revenues,
the
fees
are
based
on
the
valuation,
okay,
and
so
what
we're
expecting
is
that
a
lot
of
the
large
high
value
projects
are
going
to
slow
down,
not
necessarily
expecting
that
smaller
projects
are
necessarily
going
to
slow
down.
E
So
the
number
of
permits
may
not
fluctuate
that
much
so
just
to
give
you
an
example
from
2021
to
2022,
our
residential
remodel
permits
actually
did
decline
by
30.,
but
the
revenue
went
up
by
about
500
000.
Just
because
there
were
people
were
doing
larger
home
expansions
commercial.
However,
we
only
did
61
more
permits
from
one
year
to
the
next,
but
it
was
122.
122
million
dollar
difference.
Okay,
so
the
number
of
projects
isn't
probably
going
to
change
so
significantly
that
we'll
be
doing
a
substantial
fewer
number
of
inspections.
C
Noted
but
I
understand
that
state
law
and
we're
complying
with
state
law.
So
it's
a
totally
different
subject,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
past
and
and
is
it
okay
if
I
shift
just
quickly
into
discussion,
you
know.
Obviously
this
is
a
significant
amount
of
money
and
we're
going
to
hear
about
this
from
people
and-
and
we
should
hear
about
this
from
people
because
I'm
hearing
about
it
for
myself,
for
my
wife
from
my
friends,
you
know
this
is
not.
C
This
is
not
a
nothing
budget
in
terms
of
the
increase
and
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
to
manage
that.
I
know
that
as
a
group,
but
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
hear
from
people
is
okay.
If
our
priority
is
our
fire
department
and-
and
it
absolutely
has
to
be
to
that
hybrid
model-
I
think
Chief
seal
has
made
the
case
for
it
we've
committed
to
it.
We
know
that
it's
a
decade-long
process,
so
we're
going
to
add
six
firefighters
for
multiple
years,
we're
going
to
keep
having
these
things.
C
We
have
our
debt
service.
We
have
a
park
master
plan.
We
have
other
things
that
are
going
to
continue,
so
we're
going
to
have
that
half
a
percent
to
one
percent
increase
every
year
in
the
levy,
Just
For,
The,
Debt
Service,
we're
going
to
have
these
things
continue
to
come
forward
at
what
point,
and
in
what
way
do
we
look
at?
Are
there
just
things
that
aren't
as
high
a
priority,
and
how
do
we
make
those
decisions?
C
How
do
we
take
those
out
of
the
budget
and
extremely
difficult
I
get
it
I
get
trying
to
maintain
the
service
level
and
the
services
as
we
have
provided
them
in
the
past?
But
you
know
in
one
year:
okay,
maybe
it
makes
sense
to
have
it
in
this
one
year,
but
when
I'm
looking
out
that
we're
talking
about
this
for
the
next
decade,
that's
a
whole
different
conversation
in
my
mind,
and
how
do
we
manage
that
for
for
our
residents
and
for
our
businesses?
I
mean
we.
You
know
and
I
appreciate
that
we
look
at.
C
You
know
what
the
actual
impact
is
going
to
be
on
residents
and,
let's
be
honest,
it's
less
than
the
nine
percent,
because
other
valuations
are
going
up
faster.
That's
going
to
change
in
five
years;
probably
it
goes
back
and
forth
and
you
know
we
we
did
a
2.75
Levy
increase
a
few
years
ago,
and
people's
taxes
went
up
a
lot
more
than
that,
because
commercial
values
dropped
them
because
we've,
you
know,
a
bunch
of
businesses
were
shut
down
for
a
couple
years.
You
know,
and
let's
be
mindful
of
our
business
Community
I
mean
they.
C
They
pay
these
things
and
they
pay
significantly
and
and
that
that's
not
nothing
so
I
guess
my
question:
is
you
know
how
do
we
find
areas
where
we
can
cut
back?
Where
or
maybe
we
don't
need
to
do
it
or
maybe
it
isn't
as
high
a
priority?
And
what
is
our
process
for
doing
that,
especially
like
again,
if
this
was
a
one-time
budget?
C
C
We
were
out
there
very
clearly
about
the
parks
master
plan,
and
you
know
what
we
could
just
redo:
tennis
courts
and
hockey
rinks
as
they
were
before,
and
that
would
cost
us
a
lot
less
money
than
adding
bike
skills
and
dog
parks
and
splash
pads
and
Community
gathering
places.
There's
a
cost
to
all
these
things
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
investing
in
our
highest
priorities
and
we're
realistically
looking
at
things
that
we
could
cut
back
on.
A
But
the
point
being,
even
those
were
difficult
decisions
and,
frankly,
are
still
controversial
in
a
few
ways
to
a
lot
of
folks,
and
so
it
is
it's
a
difficult
conversation.
I
agree
with
you
completely
to
look
at
the
operation
as
a
whole
and
say
we
should
stop
doing
or
we
also
had
the
conversation
and
having
had
in
the
past
is
is
a
level
service
necessary,
Maybe,
B,
minus
level
service
is,
is
appropriate
or
acceptable
in
some
cases
and
I
think
we've
got
to
have
that
we
will
over
the
course
of
the
next
decade.
A
A
The
the
the
stop
doing
this
conversation
is
never
easy
and
that's
why
it
has
not
progressed
far
very
far
in
this
organization
or
frankly,
in
most
organizations
in
in
a
lot
of
the
public
or
private
sector
over
the
past
few
years.
So
but
I
agree,
it
needs
to
happen
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
councilmember.
J
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
I
was
on
the
budget
advisory
committee
and
leading
up
to
this
I've
been
having
flashback
dreams
because
it
wasn't
easy
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
most
challenging
things
I've
ever
done
in
my
life.
It
was
during
a
pandemic.
We
had
to
understand
what
residents
truly
need
at
a
basic
level.
We
weren't
trying
to
go
above
and
beyond
and
do
a
level
services
for
anything
during
that
time
and
as
I've
come
on
to
council
and
started
understanding
how
we
functioned.
J
A
lot
of
the
things
that
we
were
talking
about
now
are
things
that
are
decades
in
the
working
having
a
full-time
fire
department
that
probably
should
have
been
done
20
years
ago
30
years
ago,
and
so
you
know
one
of
the
the
comments
that
one
of
our
other
commission
members
said.
Is
you
know
we
can
put
you
know
things
off
like
roads
for
a
long
time
and
that'll
keep
taxes
low,
but
eventually
the
piper
is
going
to
come
and
say
Hey
where's,
my
due,
and
we
happen
to
be
stuck
right
in
the
middle
of
it.
J
How
do
we
support
the
Investments
that
are
needed
that
are
long
overdue
without
overburdening,
especially
with
the
new
families
coming
in
in
the
last
two
years,
I've
seen
more
families
that
moved
into
my
neighborhood
neighborhood
than
ever
before,
and
so
those
families
are
looking
for
reasons
to
stay
here
and
if
we
don't
give
them
reasons
to
stay
here,
they're
going
to
leave.
If
we
give
them
reasons,
they
keep
leaving
to
go
somewhere
else,
they're
just
going
to
decide
to
stay
somewhere
else
and
so
I'm.
I
I
I
You
know
if
we
divided
that
by
the
not
even
including
the
commercial
folks,
we
divided
it
by
the
23
000
homeowners
that
pay
taxes
on
a
per
taxpayer
basis.
It's
not
very
big
and
it
gets
hard.
It
gets
really
hard
because
you
almost
feel
like
you're
picking
knits.
If
you
will,
because
you
know
you
could
you
could
maybe
like
a
good
example
of
this?
Was
you
know
as
councilmember
Carter
mentioned?
I
Maybe
we
stop
plowing
residential
sidewalks
Because
by
the
way
we're
not
supposed
to
be
doing
that
anyway,
because
in
our
in
our
actual
ordinance
it
says
residents
are
responsible.
So
maybe
we
stop
doing
that.
Okay,
sure
that
might
help
us
get
better
coverage
on
the
places
where
we
must
do
that,
like
around
public
schools
and
places
like
that,
but
I
don't
think
it
takes
a
point
off
the
levy
by
a
long
long
way.
So
you
know
we
could
do
that
I'm
all
for
it
like.
I
Let's
put
that
on
the
table,
and
maybe
we
could
find
two
or
three
or
four
of
those
and
we'd
get
a
point
off
the
levy,
but
I
I,
don't
know
how
we
get
from
nine
percent
to
three
percent,
which
is
what
everybody
wants
to
pay
I,
just,
don't
know
how
you
do
it
if
anybody
does
know,
we'd
love
to
hear
about
it,
but
you
know
again:
it's
not
a
hundred
percent
we're
looking
at
we're.
Looking
at
that
25
of
the
numbers.
I
You
know:
I
I,
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
because
I
moved
here
for
those
reasons,
and
so
many
other
people
moved
there.
For
those
reasons
you
know
a
third
of
our
a
third
of
our
our
city
is
set
aside
for
for
Green
Space.
Well,
that
takes
a
lot
of
time,
energy,
money
and
investment
to
maintain.
So
you
could,
you
could
get
rid
of
a
few
of
those
I'm
not
voting
for
that
I.
Don't
know
about
you
all.
I
I
D
Go
you
know
so
I
mean
I.
You
know,
I
mean
the
thing
that
that's
always
resonates
with
me.
Is
you
know
when
I'm
you
know
at
the
doors
I
know
a
number
of
you
are
at
the
doors
too,
and
you
you
have
that
you
know
Elder
older
person
at
the
door
and
I'm
getting
closer
to
those
to
that
age
range
myself
and
the
person
tells
you
hey.
You
know
gosh,
you
know
my.
You
know
I
bought
this
house.
D
But
at
this
point
you
know
on
my
fixed
income,
this
is
really
difficult
to
be
able
to
try
to
get
by
and
then
you
know,
and
then
you
try
to
balance
that
you
know
with
what
council
member
you
know,
mua
just
you
know
brought
forward.
You
know
in
terms
of
that
that
balance
in
terms
of
making
this
place
an
attractive
place
that
folks
want
to
be
at
and
I
think
those
are
the
things
that
that
you
know
you
know
so.
Dalessandro's
talked
about
that
as
well
at
25.
D
That's
that's
that's
out
there
that
brought
my
family
here
so
many
years
ago,
and
so
we
have
to
you
know,
try
to
you,
invest
in
what's
coming
forward
and
their
people
are
asking
very
valid
questions.
You
know
I
I,
and
so
one
thing
I
would
ask
as
we
we
put
together
the
you
know
as
we
look
into
the
future
along
this.
This
budget
calendar
is
I.
Think
councilman
Alessandro
really
put
it
well.
You
know
in
my
business
where
I'm
at
we
do
do
surveys.
D
D
D
Think
we
just
say
you
need
to
continue
to
look
at
this
list.
I
know,
we've
got
a
new
paradigm.
You
know
the
mayor
talks
about
that
as
well,
and
I
want
to
support
that
as
well.
But
I
think
that
that's
what
people
are
asking
for
us
is
to
kind
of
really
lay
this
out
kind
of
explain
why
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
and
and
then
I
think
they'll
be
where
we're
at
with
this.
So
that's
those
are
my
thoughts.
E
G
E
Context
right
to
discuss
you
know
we,
we
do
look
around
at
our
peer
communities
to
see
where
they're
at
on
a
year-to-year
basis.
None
of
that
is
to
justify
whatever
we're
putting
forward
as
a
proposal.
It's
just
to
get
an
understanding
of
what's
driving
the
decisions
that
cities
everywhere
are
facing
right
now.
E
So
you
know
when
I
say
peer
communities,
I'm
talking
about
Metro
cities
that
are
generally
greater
than
50
000
population
and
we're
the
largest
of
them.
But
you
know
that's
kind
of
who
we
sort
of
compare
ourselves
to
the
lowest
among
that
group
is
five
and
a
half
percent,
and
that's
just
for
and
that's
in
Street,
increased
Insurance
and
utility
costs
and
and
existing
Staffing
complements.
E
So
that's
no
ads
one's
at
six
point:
seven:
five
percent
and
that's
a
status
quo
budget,
nothing
additional
beyond
what
they
currently
have
and
then
just
about
everything
else
is
above
that,
and
so
the
themes
here
will
sound
familiar.
One
of
them
is
at
about
seven
in
three
quarters:
five
and
a
half
with
the
base
and
then
two
and
a
quarter
for
a
public
safety
master
plan
which
is
adding
police
and
fire.
One
of
them
is
eight
point:
four
percent
added
Personnel
costs
and
a
new
fire
station.
E
One
of
them
is
at
7.6
percent
12
additional
ftes,
mostly
police
and
fire.
One
is
at
seven
this
year
and
over
eight
in
the
subsequent
year
with
about
two
and
a
half
percent
for
Park
Improvement
bonds.
Right
one
is
that
about
10
percent
transition
to
full-time
fire,
Park
Bond
referendum
full
year
costs
of
mid-2023
hires
I
mean
every
city.
That's
in
the
survey
is
basically
having
the
exact
same
challenges
that
the
city
of
Bloomington
is
and
we're
roughly
in
the
same
place
in
terms
of
what
those
Levy
proposals
are.
E
So
this
is
not
unique
to
the
city
of
Bloomington.
This
is
not
something
that
we
are
doing.
That
is
an
outlier
from
what's
being
experienced
in
communities
around
the
Twin
Cities.
This
is
where
we're
at
people
are
making
investments
in
public
safety.
Communities
that
are
aging
are
reinvesting
in
the
communities
and
we
have
the
pressures
of
increased
costs
associated
with
trying
to
recruit
and
retain
really
good
employees.
D
No
thank
you
for
that
city
manager.
I
just
saw
you
know.
This
is
not
in
that
same
peer
group,
but
I
saw
in
one
city
that
lost
their
entire
police
department.
You
know
it
just
we're.
Trying
to
you
know,
get
keep
there
and
I'm
not
saying
we're
going
to
get
to
that
that
point,
but
you
know
I
think
that's
an
example
of
where
you
say:
hey
we're
gonna.
You
know
tighten
this
belt
so
hard
that
you
end
up
paying
a
lot
more
than
what
you
already
were
at
right
today.
F
I
have
also
been
doing
a
lot
of
door
knocking
lately
and
and
based
on
what
I'm
hearing
at
the
doors
and
based
on
the
community
engagement
input.
I
mean.
Overall,
it
really
does
feel
like
people
love
living
in
Bloomington.
They
love
the
amenities
that
they
have
available
to
them.
They
think
that
the
city
is
doing
a
really
good
job
and
and
I
agree
with
councilmember
mua
I.
Don't
think
that
the
residents
of
Bloomington
would
be
okay
with
sea
level
service
and
going
back
to
councilmember,
Dallas
Center's
point.
F
F
I
guess
I
am
curious.
If
there
are
things
left
over
from
the
community
at
budget
advisory
committee
list
of
items
that
we
didn't
consider
I
mean
we
didn't
choose
them
at
that
time.
So
I
would
assume
that
we
would
not
choose
them
now,
but
you
know
something
to
consider
and
then
I
also
just
encourage
staff.
I
think
that
staff
in
the
city
do
a
really
good
job
of
this
anyway.
F
But
to
can
you
can
continue
to
look
for
other
Revenue
opportunities,
including
you
know,
are
there
things
that
we
should
be
adding
to
our
policy
agenda?
That
say
in
the
National
level
to
advocate
for
more
resources
for
local
government
which,
as
you
just
mentioned,
like
obviously
there's
a
trend
right.
We
need
more
support
in
local
government
and
I
know
the
changes
to
local
government
Aid.
This
last
legislative
session
will
help,
but
it
feels
like
not
enough.
G
F
E
Mr
rookie
thank
you:
Mr
Mayor
and
council
members,
council,
member
Carter,
II,
good
discussion
topics
related
to
the
community
budget
advisory
committee
and
whether
there
are
any
recommendations
that
came
from
cbac
that
the
council
may
want
to
revisit.
Council
members
will
recall
that
we
tiered
the
recommendations
at
the
time.
So
there
was
a
group,
a
a
group
b
and
a
group
C.
The
group
a
is
ultimately
what
was
selected.
It
was
significant
Cuts.
E
We
had
23
FTE
that
were
eliminated
as
a
reduction
as
a
as
a
result
of
those
recommendations
and
the
recommendation
from
seaback
and
the
agreement
with
the
council
at
the
time
is
there
wasn't
much
of
a
desire
to
go
beyond
those
those
options.
My
recall
last
year
that
the
cback
issue
was
raised
again.
If
there's
something
and-
and
we
shared
those
recommendations,
I
did
not
hear
anything
back
from
council
members
that
there
was
anything
in
the
group,
E
or
group
C
that
folks
were
interested
in
pursuing.
E
We
can
certainly
recirculate
that
and
if
council
members
do
see
something
there,
we
can
pursue
that
during
the
course
of
conversation
here
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
In
terms
of
other
Government
funding
for
projects,
that's
an
excellent
question,
because
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
funding
that
is
going
to
be
flowing
from
the
federal
government
with
the
IRA
and
the
iija.
E
The
infrastructure
Improvement
I,
don't
remember
what
the
J
is
for
jobs
act.
Thank
you,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
federal
money
in
the
system.
Right
now,
we're
gonna
we're
working
with
our
federal
lobbyists
to
identify
where
those
opportunities
are
I.
Think
one
of
the
greatest
opportunities
for
us
is
not
in
an
area
that's
going
to
alleviate
much
cost
or
or
take
project.
E
You
know
supplement
the
local
funding
for
projects
we
were
doing
anyway,
but
I
think
it's
in
the
area
of
solar
that
we
may
be
able
to
expand
our
utilization
of
solar
faster
as
a
result
of
those
federal
funds.
If
we're
successful
in
pursuing
those
and
the
council
is
aware
that
we
have
submitted,
we've
submitted
a
request
to
the
state
of
Minnesota
for
Capital
bonding
in
the
2024
session
that
is
commensurate
with
the
size
of
Bloomington
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
and
the
resources
that
are
being
allocated
to
the
larger
cities.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
sorry,
the
one
thing
that
I
I
do
want
to
make
a
note
of
and
I
think
Ms
Carlson.
You
mentioned
it
a
minute
ago
when
we
were
talking
about
this.
We
we
we
know
that
there
are
different
things
we
need
to
fund
than
we
did
five
years
ago,
and
it's
not
just
at
the
capital
level,
but
it's
as
a
result
of
things
like
our
drought,
that's
called
an
emerald
ash
borer,
that's
causing
a
significant
impact
to
our
trees.
I
I,
don't
recall
where
I
was
when
this
conversation
happened,
I
apologize,
but
somebody
that
I
was
talking
to
recently.
Maybe
it
was
a
National
Night
Out
actually
told
me
that
they
were
driving
down.
Lindale
Avenue
and
one
of
the
trees
fell
over
right
behind
their
car,
I
mean
if
it
had
been
within
five
seconds
on
either
end.
It
could
have
been
a
significant
issue.
I
So
you
know
with
the
amount
of
trees
that
are
dying
in
and
we
need
to
get
them.
We
need
to
get
that
canopy
replaced
right.
We
can't
just
say
we're
going
to
pull
them
out
and
leave
them
there.
We
need
to
get
them
replaced
in
fact,
two
for
every
one
would
be
my
idea,
but
they
need
to
be
of
a
diversity
right
that
allows
us
to
mitigate
some
of
this
stuff.
So
you
know
over
and
above
just
talking
about
what
we
stopped
doing.
It's
a
lot
to
me.
I
It's
a
lot
about
like
because
we're
stopping
doing
this
and
we're
starting
doing
this.
Maybe
the
number
doesn't
change,
but
the
philosophy
behind
what
we're
spending
that
money
on
is
what's
changing
and
that
you
can
point
to
to
that
right.
We
stop
doing
X,
because
you
told
you
know
we
all
know
we
need
to
do.
Y
and
I'd
be
very
interested
in
any
of
those
kinds
of
of
projects
as
well,
so
that
if
we
are
asking
for
this
kind
of
money
anyway,
we're
able
to
point
to
it
much
like
we
did
last
time
right.
I
A
I
E
Thank
you,
yeah
Mr,
Mayor
and
council
members,
councilmember
dalessandro.
Thank
you
for
asking
that
specific
question,
because
maybe
we
haven't
been
clear
so
the
next
step
for
us
obviously,
is
that
we're
going
to
come
back
and
ask
the
council
to
adopt
a
preliminary
Levy,
which
is
required
by
the
end
of
September
I.
Think
we're
looking
at
our
meeting
on
September
18th
is
when
that
action
would
be
before
the
council.
So
what
we're?
E
E
Here
are
just
I,
don't
like
to
use
status
quo,
but
in
terms
of
the
the
impact
from
a
cost
perspective,
it's
it's
pretty
nominal
right
and
so
I.
Don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
back
and
have
a
whole
conversation
around
one
percent
departmental
increase
if
it's
just
the
same
Staffing
complement
and
same
assumptions
on
you
know
what
their
operating
costs
are
going
to
be,
but
for
the
Departments,
where
we're
seeing
a
more
of
a
dramatic
shift
or
change
in
cost.
J
You
mayor
and
this
question
is
for
the
city
manager
just
so
I.
Remember
correctly,
when
we
set
the
preliminary
budget.
That
means
that's
the
the
cap
right.
We
can't
go
above
that
we
can
always
work
down
from
it,
and
so
so
we
wouldn't
want
to
preemptively
lower
the
preliminary
budget
or
the
preliminary
Levy
right
away
in
case
something
popped
up
and
they
were
stuck
because
we
can't
go
over.
That
is
that
correct.
E
Mr
mayor
council
members,
council
member,
that
is
exactly
correct.
We
cannot
go
higher
than
the
number
that
is
adopted
in
September.
You
can
decrease
it
and
that's
why
we
have
those
discussions
over
the
subsequent
months
to
get
a
little
more
into
the
details,
and
then
it's
likely
going
to
be
the
first
meeting
in
December
that
we
would
ask
the
council
to
act
on
the
final
budget
and
that
will
usually
coincide
with
our
truth
and
Taxation
hearing,
which
is
a
required
step
in
the
process
as
well.
A
C
C
This
region
has
done
a
good
job
of
controlling
inflation,
largely
due
to
a
lot
of
policies
that
we've
looked
at
in
terms
of
Housing
and
housing
was
driving
inflation
significantly
for
people
the
cost
of
housing,
and
so
I
applaud
this
Council
for
doing
that,
I,
don't
know
that
it
impacts
our
budget,
but
it
came
up
and
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
and
I
think
you
know
it's
a
question
that
we
get
in
terms
of
cost
drivers
for
the
individual
taxpayer.
You
know
what
are
we
doing
with
this
housing
policy
and
having
more
housing?
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
councilmember
Nelson's
comments
made
me
think
of
something
else.
You
know,
given
that
we
we
do
have
that
kind
of
that,
like
Regional
benefit
there,
how?
How
quickly
can
we
move
if
it,
if
at
all,
as
a
as
a
city
entity
to
Source
materials
that
in
a
way
that
might
help
us
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
you
know?
I
Maybe
it's
not
relevant
at
the
larger
scale,
but
you
know
if
people
who
are
sourcing
if
we
are
sourcing
things
from
local
providers
and
that
inflation
is
lower,
that
CPI
is
lower
here.
That
means
that
the
price
we
pay,
if
we
buy
right
around
here,
is
going
to
be
less
than
if
we
imported
it
from
the
coasts
or
whatever
and
I,
don't
know.
If
that
makes
a
difference
and
I
don't
know.
I
If
we
can
get
anything
here
that
we
really
are
talking
about
when
it
comes
to
those
types
of
things,
but
I
I
also
don't
know
how
quickly
we
can
move
as
a
as
a
sourcing
entity
anyway.
Given
that
we're
a
municipal
government
to
try
to
take
advantage
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
I
would
be
certainly
very
interested
if
we
got
Innovative
on
that
front
and
and
looked
at
you
know,
sourcing
from
local
providers
or
you
know,
maybe
there's
an
equity
opportunity
or
something
like
that.
I
That
would
be
useful
to
us
to
be
be
you
know,
trimming
taking
advantage
would
be
a
better
way
to
put
it
of
that,
that
you
know
kind
of
good
job
as
councilmember
Nelson
described
it
as
as
trying
to
keep
consumer
prices
at
a
steady
state.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
get
the
chance
to
do
that,
but
I
think
it
would
be
cool
if
we
did
so
throw
that
out
there
as
a
place
to
look
Mr.
E
Rookie,
thank
you.
Mr
mayor
council
members,
councilmember
dalessandro,
very
interesting
question
rather
than
swag
it
for
you
I'm,
going
to
maybe
follow
up
and
talk
to
our
purchasing
folks,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
materials
that
we
purchase
are
more
about.
You
know
the
supply
chain
and
where
we
get
those
materials
from.
E
But
the
comment
about,
locally
sourcing
things
or
incorporating
an
equity
component
into
our
purchasing
is
actually
something
that
isn't
our
in
our
work
plan
for
our
racial
Equity
strategic
plan
and
we
are
planning
on
participating
in
a
study
that
will
help
us
get
the
data
at
a
local
level
to
justify
the
creation
of
such
a
policy.
But
we
have
to
have
data
and
it
takes
us
a
while
to
get
that
data
and
those
studies
are
not
done
on
a
an
annual
basis.
E
A
I
think
the
final
question
that
I
had
without
you
know,
jumping
too
far
ahead
in
the
book,
because
we
don't
want
to
spoil
anything
as
we
look
toward
October
on
a
discussion
about
utility
rates,
because
we
we
have
had
the
discussion
in
the
past
about
the
total
cost
of
government.
It's
not
just
the
tax
levy.
It
is
the
utility
rates
as
well
and
the
different
pieces
of
the
puzzle
that
that
it
all
takes.
Do
we
have
any
idea
what
our
utility
rates
will
be
looking
like
for
next
year.
B
A
You
and
we'll
have
that
conversation
in
October
I
get
that
so.
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Look
forward
to
this
continued
conversation
and
appreciate
the
the
information
tonight
I
appreciate
the
the
council
discussion
tonight.
It's
been
very
thoughtful
and
insightful
and
a
useful
conversation,
I'm
sure
for
staff
and
for
us,
as
policy
makers
and
and
I
hope
for
residents
as
they
get
to
see
once
again,
as
councilmember
Lowman
likes
to
keep
pointing
out
this
when
we
start
to
televise
the
the
sausage
making.
A
A
Our
only
other
item
on
tonight's
agenda
is
our
city
manager
and
Council
update
I
have
nothing
Mr,
brogie,
nothing,
counsel,
anything
very
good.
If
that
is
nothing
else,
we've
completed
our
agenda.
I'd,
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn
tonight,
motion
and
a
second
to
adjourn.
No
further
Council
discussion.
All
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
7-0
again
thanks
much
for
the
discussion
Council.
Thank
you
Kari
and
thank
you
for
all
the
staff
work
that
has
gone
into
that
budget,
which
I
know
just
doesn't
fall
from
the
sky.