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From YouTube: May 22, 2023 Bloomington City Council Meeting
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May 22, 2023 Bloomington Minnesota City Council Meeting
0:00:00 Start
0:05:02 2.1 Introduction of New Employees
0:10:53 2.2 Proclamation: Public Works Week
0:14:04 2.3 Proclamation: Memorial Day
0:17:09 Consent Business
3.1 Approval of City Council Meeting Minutes
3.2 Approve Travel Expenses - City Council
3.3 Resolution Authorizing Hennepin County to Act as Fiscal Agent for City of Bloomington for Receipt of Grant Funds and Making Related Budget Adjustment
3.4 Resolution to Accept Public Health Infrastructure Grant Funds from the Minnesota Department of Health
3.5 Purchase of 2 Class 7 Truck Chassis
3.6 Renewal of On-Sale and Sunday On-Sale Intoxicating Liquor Licenses
3.7 Renewal of Off-Sale Intoxicating Liquor Licenses
3.8 Renewal of On-Sale Wine Licenses
3.9 Renewal of On-Sale and Sunday On-Sale Club Intoxicating Liquor Licenses
3.10 Renewal of Brewer Taproom On-Sale and Small Brewer Off-Sale Licenses
3.11 New On-Sale Intoxicating Liquor License Application – Hyatt House Mall of America
3.12 Diseased Tree Removal in Districts 1,2, 3 and 4 - Approve Bid Award
3.13 Authorize the Data Sharing Agreement with the Minnesota Department of Health
3.14 Right-of-Way Use Agreement Approval for Kraemer Mining & Materials, Inc.
3.15 Resolution: Amendment #5 to 2023 Full-Time Non-Union & Part-Time, Temporary, and Seasonal Compensation Plans
0:17:30 4.1 Public Hearing: Vacation of Public Drainage, Utility, Sidewalk, Bikeway, Street, Sight, Ingress and Egress Easements at Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, WINCHELL'S ADDITION and Lot 1, Block 1, PENN PROPERTIES ADDITION (PL202300052)
0:20:11 4.2 Public Hearing: Proposed License and Permit Fee Changes
0:29:52 4.3 Public Hearing: City Code Amendments and Comprehensive Plan Text Amendment - Single and Two-Family Residential Standards
2:07:23 4.4 Public Hearing: Comprehensive Plan Amendment in response to 2022 System Statement issued by Metropolitan Council
2:16:50 5.1 Consideration of a Solid Waste Rate Study
2:56:11 5.2 2023 Legislative Update
3:12:32 5.3 City Council Policy & Issue Update
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Once
again,
thanks
to
everybody
who's
joining
us
here
in
the
chambers
and
everybody
watching
online
tonight
on
gorgeous
spring
evening,
so
I
appreciate
you
being
here
inside
with
us
on
80
degrees
and
sunny
still
at
6
30
in
the
evening.
Our
first
item
of
the
Gen
on
of
of
note
tonight
is
approval
of
the
agenda.
Our
agenda
includes
a
total
of
three
introductory
items.
We're
gonna
have
an
introduction
of
new
employees
and
then
two
proclamations,
one
for
Public
Works
week
and
another
Proclamation
regarding
Memorial
Day
item
three
are
consent.
A
Business
councilmember
Carter
has
consent
this
evening
and
we
have
15
items
on
the
consent
agenda
this
evening
under
item
four
are
hearings,
resolutions
and
ordinances.
We
have
four
items:
our
first
two
public
hearings,
the
first
being
a
vacation
of
public
drainage,
utility,
sidewalk,
Etc
and
the
second
item.
4.2
is
a
public
hearing
on
a
proposed
license
and
permit
fee
changes.
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Those
should
be
short
ones
and
item
4.3,
a
public
hearing
regarding
the
city
code
amendments
and
our
comprehensive
plan
text
Amendment
with
the
single
and
two
family
residential
standards
which
we've
covered
before
and
we'll
I'll
be
wrapping
up
tonight.
Hopefully,
and
then
item
4.4
is
a
public
hearing
again
comp
plan
amendment
in
response
to
a
2022
system
statement
issued
by
the
Metropolitan
Council
under
organizational
business
item.
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5.1
is
a
consideration
of
a
solid
waste
rate
study
that
the
council
has
been
talking
about
about
how
we
could
perhaps
adjust
our
rates
to
encourage
more
usage
of
our
Organics
and
Recycling
and
plane
recycling
programs
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
item
5.2
is
a
legislative
update
by
Mike
Sable
Mr
Sable
it'll
be
changing
right
up
until
the
minute
you
get
it.
You
give
the
the
legislative
update,
I
think
so,
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
A
C
A
Cause
any
other
discussion
on
this:
if
not
I
will
move
approval
of
tonight's
agenda.
Second
got
a
motion,
and
a
second
by
councilmember
Lowman,
to
approve
tonight's
agenda.
No
further
discussion
on
this.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
7-0
and
we
have
an
agenda.
A
Our
first
item
tonight
is
item
2.1
introduction
of
new
employees.
We
do
this
fairly
regularly
now
and
I.
Think
it's
something
a
very
good
thing
that
we
do
here
at
our
Council
meetings,
an
opportunity
to
meet
the
new
employees
here
for
the
city
of
Bloomington
get
their
have
them
say
hello
to
the
council,
but
also
make
sure
that
people
watching
at
home
are
here
in
the
chambers
get
to
see
new
employees
and
if
they
recognize
them,
then
out
in
the
community.
A
D
Evening,
mayor
and
city
council
I
am
pleased
to
introduce
to
you
tonight
two
new
members
of
the
community
services
department
and
we
will
start
with
Amna
Abdul
zahi,
who
is
a
new
public
health,
specialist,
Dash
assessment
quality
and
accreditation,
planner
Amna
Abdullah.
He
came
to
the
city
of
Bloomington
from
Boynton
Health,
where
she
served
as
a
patient
assistant
and
public
health
communication,
associate
her
responsibilities
and
included
working
with
patients
and
Clinic
staff
to
ensure
quality
care,
patient
safety
and
satisfaction.
D
She
was
also
part
of
the
Clinic's
Urgent
Care
work
group
and
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
committee,
Amna
graduated
from
the
University
of
Minnesota
School
of
Public
Health,
with
a
master's
in
public
health,
administration
and
policy.
She
is
passionate.
She
tells
us
about
all
things.
Public
health
she's
told
us
that
she's
really
excited
to
join
our
population,
health
and
planning
team
and
be
part
of
the
continuous
work
and
effort
to
enact
lasting
change
in
our
communities.
Please
welcome
Amna
abdulahi.
D
Thank
you
so
much
all
right
and
then
I'm
also
pleased
to
have
you
meet
Todd
Jensen,
who
is
a
new
mail
coordinator
for
the
city.
Todd
Jensen
joined
the
city
of
Bloomington
as
a
mail
coordinator
on
February
6th
after
several
years
previously,
as
a
mail
carrier
Todd
served
as
as
in
Port,
Edwards
Wisconsin
as
postmaster
for
24
years.
While
there
he
made
a
career
of
collecting,
sorting
and
delivering
mail
while
providing
a
safe,
clean
and
functional
environment
at
the
town's
post
office.
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A
F
Evening
Council
pleasure
to
introduce
two
new
employees
we
have
in
public
works,
both
in
our
maintenance,
Division
and
I'll
start
with
Christian
Christian
Davern
comes
to
us
with
over
20
years
of
experience
in
facilities,
management
and
she's.
Our
new
facilities
super
assistant
superintendent,
most
of
her
time,
was
spent
at
the
University
of
Minnesota.
Most
recently,
she
was
in
charge
of
East
Cliff,
which
is
the
home
of
the
president
of
the
university
and
I
think
of
the
governor
for
for
about
a
half
a
year
coming
up
here
as
well.
F
So
she
has
a
Bachelor
of
Arts
in
certificate
in
construction
management,
both
from
the
University
of
Minnesota
and
while
she
grew
up
in
Edina,
she
does
have
a
lot
of
connections
to
Bloomington
her.
First
two
jobs
were
here
in
Bloomington,
one
at
Highland,
Hills
and
then
also
at
the
Mall
of
America,
and
her
mom
was
the
the
principal
harpist
for
the
Bloomington
Symphony
until
just
recently,
when
not
at
work,
Christian
loves,
downhill,
skiing
and
biking
and
she's.
Also
an
avid
Knitter,
so
Christian.
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F
So
Tim
comes
to
us
with
over
25
years
of
Public
Works
experience,
most
recently
with
the
city
of
Northfield
as
their
street
and
park
manager.
But
Tim
is
really
not
new
to
Bloomington
he,
but
the
bulk
of
his
experience
was
actually
in
Bloomington
Public
Works.
He
has
almost
20
years
or
over
20
years
of
experience
working
as
an
operator
in
our
maintenance
division,
so
he
has
has
a
degree
in
finance
from
Saint,
Cloud,
State
and
also
a
degree
in
civil
engineering
from
the
University
of
Minnesota.
F
So
he's
a
hard-working
guy
worked
hard
here
worked
hard
going
to
school
at
night
for
those
two
degrees
he
loves
to
do
projects
around
the
house
from
finishing
his
basement
to
a
three
season.
Porch
plays
golf
when
he's
able
and
he's
also
a
paid
on
call
firefighter
with
the
city
of
Rosemont
has
been
for
15
years.
So
we'd
like
to
welcome
Tim
back
to
our
ranks.
H
You
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members,
it's
great
to
be
back
here
at
Bloomington.
It's
a
great
organization
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
working
with
all
the
great
co-workers
that
I've
had
future
previous
working
relationships
with
and
new
ones
as
well,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
giving
a
great
service
to
the
residents
and
visitors
of
Bloomington.
Here.
Thank.
A
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A
Every
single
time
well,
this
ties
nicely
with
our
last
introduction
and
ties
very
nicely
with
the
celebration
that
we
had
here
at
Civic
Plaza
over
the
weekend
item.
2.2
is
a
proclamation
for
Public
Works
week
and
I'll
read
the
proclamation,
and
then
we
can
talk
a
bit
about
public
works
and
our
Public
Works
open
house.
A
Now,
therefore,
I
am
your
Tim
Bussey.
Do
hereby
proclaim
the
week
of
May
21st
to
the
27th
2023
as
Public
Works
week
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
I,
call
upon
all
residents
and
Civic
organizations
to
acquaint
themselves
with
the
issues
involved
in
providing
our
Public
Works
and
to
recognize
the
contributions
which
Public
Works
officials
make
every
day
to
our
health,
safety,
comfort
and
quality
of
life
dated
this
22nd
day
of
May
2023.
A
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
the
the
importance
of
educating
and
informing
and
welcoming
in
folks
to
show
them
exactly
what
Public
Works
does
and
on
Saturday
we
had
a
Public,
Works,
open
house
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
folks
were
there,
but
it
was
a
lot
I
know.
You
went
through
a
lot
of
popcorn
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
hot
dogs,
the
the
line
of
kids
waiting
to
ride
in
the
the
vehicles
and
the
trucks.
A
I
literally
thought
their
heads
were
going
to
explode,
they
were
so
excited
and
it
was
just
such
a
wonderful
Community
event
and
it
does.
It
did
so
much
of
what
we've
what
I
just
read
about
here,
trying
to
take
away
the
the
the
the
the
misunderstandings,
the
lack
of
knowledge,
the
secrecy
of
what
happens
within
Public
Works.
A
A
Now,
therefore
I
Tim
basimir,
the
city
of
Bloomington,
do
hereby
Proclaim
Monday
May
29
2023
is
Memorial
Day
in
Bloomington
and
I
urge
all
residents
to
remember
and
honor
those
who
have
died
in
the
service
of
the
United
States
of
America,
so
that
their
sacrifices
will
not
be
invade.
Dana.
This
22nd
day
of
May
2023.,
now,
obviously
me
declaring
and
proclaiming
Memorial
Day,
One,
Way
or
Another
doesn't
affect
it,
there's
going
to
be
Memorial,
Day,
One,
Way
or
Another,
but
what
I
really
like
doing
when
we
do?
A
A
A
J
A
F
Mirror
console
so
this
item
is
related
to
the
Redevelopment
of
the
europolis
site
and
and
the
site
immediately
to
the
east
of
that
and
is
part
of
the
re-platting
of
that
property,
which
you
approved
last
fall.
So
the
release
of
these
easements
is
just
the
first
step
of
the
platting.
Those
new
those
same
easements
will
be
rededicated
as
part
of
the
plat
that
when
it
is
filed
so
rather
routine
item,
we're
recommending
approval.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Keel
counseling
questions
of
Mr
Keel
on
this,
as
he
said
rather
routine
and
the
first
step
in
in
a
process
of
getting
in
that
area.
Redeveloped,
no
counsel,
questions
very
good.
This
is
a
public
hearing
and
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
now
in
item
4.1
regarding
the
vacation
of
those
many
things
that
I
mentioned
earlier
and
I,
don't
want
to
repeat
again,
but
we
have
a
public
hearing
on
item
4.1.
Anyone
in
the
council
chambers
wishing
to
speak
to
item
4.1
this
evening.
K
A
A
Motion
by
council
member
Martin,
second
by
council
member
dallasandro
to
close
the
public
hearing
on
item
4.1,
no
further
Council
discussion
on
this
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion,
carries
7-0
Council.
Any
questions.
Any
comments
on
this.
If
not
I,
would
look
for
action
on
item
4.1,
America.
L
A
Second,
what
should
my
councilmember
Martin
second
by
council
member
MOA,
to
adopt
the
ordinance,
as
stated
on
item
4.1?
No
further
Council
discussion
on
this?
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
7-0.
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
Kiel
item.
4.2
is
our
second
public
hearing
of
the
evening,
and
this
is
regarding
a
proposed
license
and
permit
fee
changes,
and
we
have
our
city
city
clerk,
Ms,
Christina
scipione,
here
this
evening
good
evening,
Miss
scipione.
M
All
right
we'll
go
to
our
next
slide,
please
so
some
quick
background
for
city
council
as
to
why
we're
here
tonight,
state
law
allows
for
the
collection
of
license
permits
and
fees
which
we
have
in
our
ordinances
in
the
appendix,
in
our
ordinance,
fees
are
based
on
the
city's
cost
to
administer
the
licenses,
so
the
fee
Revenue
itself
goes
into
our
general
fund
for
the
most
part
and
the
license.
Administration
expenses
are
then
also
paid
out
of
that
general
fund.
M
We
found
over
the
year
that
our
fee
structure
is
consistent
with
comparable
cities
and
most
other
cities
take
a
kind
of
annual
review
process,
as
we
do
to
make
sure
that
their
fees
are
staying
in
line
with
the
cost
to
administer
the
licensing
and
permitting
programs
with
that
said,
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
up
here
and
I've
worked
here
for
two
years
now,
and
that
is
because
we
did
not
do
any
annual
review
or
license
fee
increases
during
the
covid
pandemic,
and
so
we
have
not
increased
our
license
fees.
Since
2019.
M
M
So
the
proposed
fees
for
2023
include
a
or
pretty
much
a
three
percent
increase
we
round
a
little
bit
so
that
our
license
fees
stay.
You
know
kind
of
on
the
dollar
for
most
of
our
license
fees,
but
it's
overall
about
a
three
percent
increase,
and
these
are
kind
of
our
most
often
issued
fees
that
are
included
in
that
ordinance.
Amendment
and
the
full
ordinance
was
in
your
packet
next
slide
please.
M
M
A
A
M
A
C
Mayor
what
I
wanted
to
ask
is
you
know
over
the
years
I've
seen
this
process
come
before
us
many
many
times,
and
what
I
was
curious
about?
You
know
in
terms
of
the
fee
process,
my
understanding
is
that's
kind
of
the
way
that
we've
done
it.
We
add
this
three
percent
on
there.
One
of
my
questions
was
whether
or
not
we
other
cities
have
other
ways
of
doing
that
in
order
to
forward
you
know.
C
So,
for
example,
I
saw
there
was
a
license
fee
for
for
child
care,
I
think
with
food
I
think
that's
500,
or
something
like
that
530
or
something
like
that.
Do
other
cities,
you
know.
Let's
say
you
have
a
strategic
priority
and
you
decide
you
know
we're
going
to
do
this
in
a
different
way
or
is
it
pretty
much?
This
is
the
way
that
most
cities
kind
of
go
about
doing
this
mayor.
M
And
council,
member
Lohman
and
city
council,
most
cities
kind
of
take
either
two
tracks
for
increasing
their
license
and
permits
fee
at
least
what
I've
seen
there
are
some
cities
that
do
as
Bloomington
does
and
kind
of
do
these
incremental
increases
every
year,
so
there
isn't
kind
of
a
sticker
shock
for
licensees.
If
you
make
one
large
change
all
at
once,
and
then
there
are
some
cities
that
kind
of
don't
do
anything
for
five
to
seven
years
and
then
their
license
holders
receive
a
much
larger
increase
kind
of
all
at
once.
M
That's
typically
how
cities
manage
it
as
far
as
kind
of
the
the
fees
for
for
Food
Service.
Some
of
those
remember
are
are
delegated
by
the
Minnesota
Department
of
Health,
and
so
it's
hard
to
have
a
Apples
to
Apples
comparison
amongst
other
cities,
because
there
are
very
few
cities
that
have
those
delegation
agreements,
but
we
feel
that
our
fees
are
in
line
with
and
similar
to
what
other
cities
within
the
Metro
region
are
charging.
C
And
then
my
last
question
that
Africa
mayor
is,
you
know
recently
we
just
had
a
process
change
with
I
think
with
respect
to
the
cabbies
and
and
other
ways
of
doing
that
thing,
and
it
was
you
know.
Basically,
we
brought
those
changes
to
being
a
part
of
our
consent
agenda.
Well,
my
question:
what
prevents
us
from
because
you
know
all
the
times
I've
been
here.
I
haven't
really
seen
all
that
many
people
come.
You
know
to
have
conversations
about
the
fees.
C
M
Aaron,
council,
member
Lowman
city
council,
it
is
definitely
something
staff
is
interested
in
right.
We
sent
out
1800
notices,
it
probably
costs
the
city
about
fourteen
hundred
dollars
to
do
that
process
and
we
received
no
feedback.
No
granted
we
haven't
held
the
public
hearing
yet,
but
staff
will
be
working
with
research
with
legal
to
research.
Is
there
a
different
way?
We
can
do
this
that
might
be
more
efficient
for
the
city
and
save
save
some
money
in
those
noticing
costs.
A
I
M
Mayor
and
council
member
de
la
Sandra,
you
do,
unfortunately,
because
of
the
timing
of
mailing
the
notices
and
when
we
needed
to
have
the
other
ordinance
in
effect,
so
we
didn't
have
to
notice
for
liquor
license
renewals.
We
have
a
bit
of
an
issue
with
some
of
them,
not
matching
what
you
recently
passed.
So
we're
working
on
legal
to
clean
that
up
and
make
sure
it's
correct
in
our
ordinance.
I
M
A
You
also
further
questions,
if
not
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
it
in
4.2
this
evening.
This
is
a
public
hearing
regarding
the
proposed
license
and
permit
fee
changes.
Anyone
in
the
Chambers
wishing
to
speak
to
item
4.2
this
evening,
Mr
Billard,
do
we
have
anyone
on
the
phone
wishing
to
speak
down
in
4.2.
A
A
N
Yeah,
thank
you,
mayor
I,
don't
have
a
question.
Just
a
quick
disclosure,
I'm
impacted
by
these
fees.
I
have
a
license
for
a
rental
unit
in
the
city.
Just
want
to
make
sure
people
are
aware
of
that.
I,
don't
believe
it
reaches
the
threshold
to
recuse
myself,
because
I'm
treated
no
differently
than
any
other
rental
license
holder
on
there
and
it's
six
dollars
and
it's
an
increase
so
and
and
I
had
no
influence
on
the
amount
of
it
or
anything
like
that.
A
A
Second
motion:
my
council
member
Lowman,
second
by
councilmember,
mua,
to
adopt
the
ordinance
amending
appendix
A
administrative
relief
and
fee
schedule
for
the
city
code
related
for
fees
and
license
for
to
fees
for
licenses
and
permits
no
further
Council
discussion
on
this.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion,
carries
7-0
councilmember
Lowman,
summary
publication.
Remember.
C
A
Most
of
my
council
member
lowman's,
second
by
council
member
mua
for
summary
publication,
no
further,
Council
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
7-0.
Thank
you
very
much,
Ms
Capone.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
Em
4.3
on
our
agenda
is
a
public
hearing
regarding
our
proposed
city
code
amendments
and
comprehensive
plan
text,
amendments
for
single
and
two
family
residential
standards.
O
Okay,
this
looks
like
the
right
one.
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
this
evening,
so
I'm
just
going
to
provide
some
short
updates
following
the
city
council
discussion
on
May
the
1st
and
provide
just
a
little
bit
of
procedural
background
in
terms
of
where
we're
at
and
the
process
and
why
having
another
public
hearing
yet
this
evening,
so
this
process
started
back
in
the
end
of
October
in
2021.
So
it's
been
a
19-month
process.
O
That's
involved
multiple
advisory
boards
and
commissions,
as
well
as
a
significant
discussion
with
the
city
council
and
a
whole
multitude
of
public
feedback
and
input
opportunities.
There's
been
four
Pub.
This
tonight
would
be
the
fourth
public
hearing
associated
with
this
project,
one
held
by
the
Planning
Commission
in
December
of
last
year,
and
then
this
would
be
the
third
city
council
public
hearing.
So,
as
you
all
recall,
at
the
May
1st
city
council
discussion,
the
goal
of
that
evening's
work
was
to
reach
consensus
on
all
the
various
sub
items
held
within
the
ordinance.
O
It
was
a
very
good
discussion
as
part
of
that
discussion.
Staff
was
directed
to
prepare
two
versions
of
the
ordinance,
the
full
version
which
will
be
presented
to
you
tonight
as
option
A
reflects
the
version
recommended
by
the
Planning
Commission,
as
well
as
other
subsequent
advisory
boards
and
staff,
and
then-
and
that
is
the
version
of
the
ordinance
that
the
public
and
other
interested
parties
have
viewed
and
reviewed
throughout
the
the
entirety
of
the
process.
We
were
also
directed
to
prepare
a
alternate
alternative.
O
Excuse
me
version
of
the
ordinance
which
we're
calling
option
b,
which
reflected
all
of
the
items
of
full
consensus,
so
unanimous
consensus
on
the
part
of
the
council
as
part
of
kind
of
the
straw
poll
or
head
nodding
exercises,
as
we
were
doing
earlier
in
May.
So
just
a
point
about
that,
and
then
just
procedurally
speaking,
I
want
to
note
for
the
record
that
were
did
advertise
another
public
hearing
tonight,
for
the
reason
that
we
also
have
this
option
b
ordinance.
O
So
on
tonight's
agenda,
as
I
said,
I
have
not
too
many
slides.
The
the
first
item
is
just
to
present
you
options,
A
and
B.
Just
high
level
overview,
then
I'm
going
to
talk
about
some
analysis
or
study.
That's
been
discussed
throughout
the
throughout
the
process
focused
on
the
rs1
zoning
District,
as
well
as
environmental
standards
that
serve
are
applicable
to
low
density
residential
areas
in
Bloomington,
and
then
I'll
provide
a
brief
overview
of
some
work.
O
That
staff
did
in
order
to
collect
kind
of
scholarly
or
academic
research
about
zoning
and
its
impact
on
housing
costs,
particularly
in
low
density
areas,
and
then
I
will
present
to
you
a
list
of
recommended
actions
as
proposed
by
staff,
so
getting
to
ordinance
options.
A
and
B
I
mentioned
I
provided
a
overview
in
my
timeline
slide,
but
option
A
is
the
full
version,
as
recommended
by
Planning
Commission,
and
the
bodies
listed
on
the
slide
option
b.
O
Is
the
alternate
or
the
alternative
ordinance
that
does
reflect
all
that
uniform
consensus
or
unanimous
consensus
on
the
part
of
council
I
want
to
reiterate
or
highlight
the
items
that
option
b
does
not
include
option
b
does
not
include
reductions
to
the
R1
District
minimum
lot
size
and
lot
width.
It
does
not
include
the
requirement
for
a
median
lot
with
requirement
which
is
proposed
to
be
removed
in
the
full
ordinance,
so
that
would
remain,
and
then
it
also
does
not
include
allowances
for
increased
maximum
impervious
surface
on
residential
lots
less
than
11
000
square
feet.
O
So
those
are
the
key
Provisions
that
it
does
not
include.
So
throughout
the
packet
you'll
see
the
two
different
ordinances
with
headers
listed
clearly
with
the
different
options
that
they
represent.
We
also
have
in
the
packet
different
versions
of
summary
publication
and
other
documentation
that
kind
of
goes
along
with
those
two
alternative
options.
So
hopefully
that's
clear.
This
is
the
same
information,
but
we've
provided
this
document
throughout
most
of
the
process,
so
I
just
want
to
show
it
for
the
public
that
this
is
kind
of
the
summary
table.
This
is
all
the
key
Provisions.
O
One
thing
that
was
discussed
at
the
May
1st
city
council
meeting
that
staff
interpreted
to
reach
Council
consensus
on
was
the
desire
to
have
a
mailed
notice
associated
with
type
1
plots
that
are
specifically
for
lot
splits
of
two
lots
or
resulting
in
two
lots
or
less
so
we,
this
was
not
something
that
was
incorporated
into
previous
versions
of
the
ordinance
per
the
council
direction.
We
did
include
this
item.
O
More
notice
is
always
good.
I
do
want
to
take
this
moment
to
point
out
that
there
is
not
a
a
large
amount
of
precedent
in
the
Bloomington
city
code
for
notification
that
is
not
connected
or
associated
with
the
public
hearing
opportunity.
So
staff
reiterates
the
same
concern.
We
talked
about
last
time
that
for
some
folks
getting
a
public
notice.
That's
disassociated
from
a
public
hearing
opportunity,
May
provide
some
confusion
or
in
some
cases
even
some
frustration.
That's
not
to
say,
don't.
O
O
So,
moving
on
to
the
district,
the
rs1
district
study
and
the
environmental
standards
analysis,
so
staff
is
specifically
seeking
Direction
on
kind
of
three
things
associated
with
these
two
broader
topics.
So
just
a
couple
procedural
notes,
Here
one
is
whether
to
pursue
a
formal
study
of
these
things
we
again
kind
of
with
the
straw
poll
or
the
head
nodding
at
the
May
1st
meeting,
we
felt
like
we
had
the
consensus
of
the
body
that
it
isn't
something
important
that
the
the
city
should
invest
staff
resources
into
studying
these
items.
O
That
being
said,
we
would
like
to
request
that
a
formal
motion
be
made
directing
staff
to
do
so
and
I'll
talk,
maybe
a
little
bit.
Why
that's
important
in
the
the
third
item,
where
the
next
two
slides
I'll
get
into
those
specific
two
topics,
but
we
are
seeking,
if
there's
any
preliminary
feedback,
that
the
city
council
wants
to
give
staff
about
what
we
should
be
researching
as
part
of
these
topics.
That's
certainly
helpful
feedback
for
staff,
as
we
begin
our
investigation
and
then
on
the
third
item.
O
As
as
you
all
know,
the
Planning
Commission
has
an
annual
work
plan.
We
adopted
the
2023
work
plan
in
January
of
this
year,
and
so
something
that
staff
will
be
seeking
feedback
on
is
whether
or
not
to
pursue
these
studies
in
the
near
term.
Is
it
something
that
staff
should
prioritize,
meaning
in
the
2023
timeline,
or
is
it
something
that
should
be
added
to
the
2024
Planning
Commission
work
plan,
so
we're
seeking
feedback
on
that
as
well?
O
O
So
certainly,
that's
been
part
of
this
discussion,
but
as
part
of
that,
it's
elicited
a
lot
of
discussion
about
what
the
district
intent
of
rs1
should
be,
for
example,
should
incorporate
other
characteristics
like
habitat
corridors
or
other
things
that
should
make
it
worthy
for
such
designation.
So
that's
something
that
certainly
we
would
look
at
as
part
of
this
and
then
what
are
the
appropriate
performance
standards
for
this
District?
O
You
know
this
District
was
kind
of
tweaked
in
the
early
2000s,
so
going
back
to
look
at
these
standards
and
whether
or
not
it
matches
up
with
what's
appropriate
for
these
areas
and
I
should
also
add
that
I
think
it
was
also
raised
as
an
equity
component,
we're
looking
at
the
majority
of
all
the
other
R1
Zone
Properties
or
low
density,
Residential
Properties.
We
should
be
evaluating
these
properties
as
well,
and
then
staff's
hobby
horse
is
the
bullet.
Number
two
is
establishing
consistent
criteria.
O
O
Get
into
the
environmental
standards
analysis,
so
these
are
kind
of
the
key
components
that
we've
identified
that
we
think
should
be
looked
at
for
low
density
residential
areas.
It
involves
tree
preservation,
steep
slopes,
Landscaping
requirements,
but
we're
open
to
the
idea
that
there
certainly
could
be
some
other
things
that
we
could
be
looking
at
just
in
terms
of
kind
of
the
growth
of
sustainability
and
other
professionals
who
are
more
interested
kind
of
in
these
topics.
O
There
certainly
is
increasing
amounts
of
research
of
things
that
could
be
incorporated
into
zoning
regulation
that
might
help
mitigate
some
impacts
from
development.
What
I
would
note
one
thing?
I,
don't
have
included
on
this
list
and
I
tried
to
focus
on
that
last
session.
I.
Don't
we're
not
recommending
to
include
stormwater
management
into
those
into
this
analysis?
O
The
reason
for
that
being
is
that
currently,
we
feel
that
we're
adequately
served
by
the
regulations
that
are
on
the
books
today
and
the
secondary
reason
is
that
it's
a
multi-jurisdictional
review,
typically
there's
other
jurisdictions
that
are
involved
in
the
review
of
storm
water
management
and
on
the
part
of
wetlands
state
law
that
comes
into
play.
So
staff
is
not
including
stormwater
management,
certainly
that
storm
water
management
is
always
a
feature
of
development
and
everything
we
look
at
and
certainly
would
be
part
of
the
discussion
of
some
of
these
other
things.
O
If
you
preserve
more
trees,
that's
beneficial
from
a
storm
water
management
perspective
and
other
things
and
steep
slopes
is
obviously
highly
tied
to
storm
water
management
as
well.
But
just
a
point
and
note
about
that,
so
we
conducted
a
literature
review.
We
got
our
old
jstor
and
planning
Journal
subscriptions
and
we
punched
them
in
and
we
did.
We
searched
various
terms
that
we
thought
would
get
us
some
good
material.
That's
related
to
this
topic.
We
did
find
eight
articles
that
we
feel
are
tangentially
related
to
the
broader
topic.
O
One
of
those
studies
is
more
recent
and
is
more
applicable
to
kind
of
our
current
region.
The
other
seven
are
mostly
studying
other
regions
within
the
United
States
and
come
from
various
time
periods,
all
following
two
thousand.
So
what
are
the
lessons
that
can
be
drawn
that
are,
that
are
directly
applicable
to
Bloomington
it's
difficult,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
regulatory
environments
from
one
jurisdiction
and
one
region
to
region,
one
state
to
state
are
all
very
different.
They
all
have
different
state
laws.
O
So
there's
a
number
of
different
reasons
why
it's
difficult
and
then
maybe
most
importantly,
is
that
there
is
very
few
studies
because
they
try
and
draw
to
make
it
statistically
significant.
They
look
at
a
bright,
a
broad
or
a
large
number
of
jurisdictions.
It's
very
hard
to
find
studies
that
are
directly
aligned
with
the
specific
zoning
changes
that
are
being
proposed
here
in
Bloomington
I.
Think
there
is
some
council
members
who
talked
about
peer
cities
in
the
region
who
are
looking
at
some
of
these
changes
and
that's
true.
O
So
that's
why
it's
difficult
to
draw
some
conclusions
that
that
being
said
and
I
and
I'm
certainly
can
make
some
of
these
materials
available
to
interested
parties.
But
there
was
some
consensus
over
the
the
eight
articles,
and
those
consensus
does
reveal
that
they're,
generally
speaking,
is
a
correlation
between
housing
costs
and
specifically
increasing
or
the
rate
of
increase
of
housing
costs
and
stricter
density.
Land
use
control.
O
And
the
reason
being
is
that
at
stricter
density
or
language
controls,
control
Supply,
they
don't
allow
or
they
don't
stimulate
Supply
at
the
same
rates
as
more
relaxed
zoning
regimes
do
so
that
that
was
a
definite
correlation
or
a
connection
factor
between
the
different
studies.
The
other
thing
that
did
come
out
of
those
studies
is
that
more
relaxed
land
use
control
environments,
you're
still
going
to
have
rates
of
increase
of
housing
costs.
O
It's
very
hard
to
stimulate
that,
on
the
basis
of
the
housing
eco
system,
presentation
that
you
saw
from
administrator
Coleman
on
May
the
1st
about
how
many
factors
are
just
not
in
the
control
of
local
jurisdictions.
But
that
being
said,
what
some
of
these
studies
found
is
that
more
relaxed
zoning
regimes
or
cities
with
more
relaxed
land
use
controls
had
slower
rates
of
increased
housing
costs
than
cities
that
had
stricter
land
use
regulatory
environments.
O
So
it's
really
about
the
rate,
you
know,
and
that's
can
you
know
that
can
be
percentages
sometimes
or
even
modest
difference,
but
even
those
modest
differences
can
have
a
big
impact
over
time
and
just
to
note
that
these
the
studies
really
did
reach
consensus,
they're
more
based
on
the
long
term
as
opposed
to
short-term
time
windows.
I.
Think
one
of
the
Articles
did
talk
about
short-term
inflationary
or
increased
costs
associated
with
regulatory
environments.
Those
things
are,
dudes
are
witnessed
or
are
visible,
sometimes
in
the
short
term,
in
the
long
term.
O
So
just
a
I
talked
a
lot
about.
You
know
the
robust
amount
of
public
input.
I
did
a
quick
count.
Earlier
today,
I
think
we've
received
over
60
forms
of
written
correspondence
associated
with
this
case
kind
of
going
back
to
December
of
last
year.
You
did
receive
letters
from
housing,
first
Minnesota
and
the
Minnesota
realtors
association,
just
in
terms
of
trade
or
industry
groups
who
have
interest
in
these
policy
areas.
O
The
city's
HRA
and
HR
Human
Rights
Commission
both
also
provided
their
perspective
on
these
items
and
felt
it
important
to
weigh
in
on
this
policy
and
then
in
terms
of
just
public
testimony
correspondence
and
engagement
there's
been
a
significant
amount.
We've
had
a
lot
of
in-person
live
testimony,
verbal
testimony
at
the
four
public
hearings,
as
I
mentioned,
or
three
to
date.
Before
now,
I
know,
they've
I
know
that
folks
have
been
providing
feedback
at
city
council
listening
sessions
too.
O
O
So
it's
it's
definitely
interesting
that
way,
but
yeah,
hopefully
you
know
I,
think
at
the
January
9th
council
meeting
I
think
the
charge
was
put
upon
staff
to
try
and
do
more
robust
engagement
and
get
people
talking
and
to
get
a
lot
more
feedback
about
this
policy
and
I
hope.
We've
accomplished
that
to
date
as
part
of
this
process.
O
So
it's
certainly
within
the
mayor
and
council's
discretion
about
how
to
kind
of
tackle
these
different
recommended
actions.
That
staff
has
put
forth
for
you
here
this
evening,
but
this
is
the
recommended
sequence
that
we
would
suggest
for
you.
As
you
consider
these
different
actions,
we
would
suggest
first
to
consider
ordinance
option
A,
which
is
the
full
version.
It's
not
just
because
it's
the
version
staff
recommends,
but
it's
the
version.
You're
Planning
Commission
is
recommending
to
you
as
the
main
advisory
land
use
body.
O
If
ordinance
a
is
not
our
option,
A
is
not
adopted
at
that
time.
Then
we
would
suggest
to
you
to
consider
ordinance
option
b
and
go
from
there,
irrespective
of
which
ordinance
option
the
council
takes
action
on.
If
one
is
approved,
we
would
suggest
authorizing
a
resolution
of
public
summary
summary
publication,
I'm,
sorry,
I
misspoke
there
and
then,
following
that
action
there
still
is
the
vote
on
the
comprehensive,
the
associated
comprehensive
plan
text
Amendment
again.
O
That
is
necessary
in
order
to
make
the
city's
comp
plan
simpatico
with
the
public
policies
that
were
put
forth
in
the
different
ordinances,
irrespective
of
which
option
you
select
actually-
and
it's
also
intended
to
kind
of
clean
up
some
regulatory
lack
of
clarity
in
some
of
our
low
density
areas.
And
then
finally,
this
wasn't
included
I
think
on
the
cover
sheet.
N
O
Mayor
councilman
Nelson,
it
is
in
both
options:
A
and
B.
We
interpreted
the
discussion
to
be
that
there
was
broad
support
for
that
at
the
May
1st
meeting,
so
we
included
it
in
both
options.
You
don't
need
a
separate
action
to
include
it.
If
you
did
not
want
to
include
it
that
would
require
some
type
of
intervention.
N
O
B
C
Maybe
more,
this
is
maybe
maybe
a
question
just
for
you
just
you
know.
Earlier
staff
talked
about
the
the
the
concept.
The
reason
why
we're
having
a
you
know,
another
public
hearing
tonight
is
because
we
wanted
to
consider
a
couple
different
Pathways
to
go
down
with
this
process,
and
so,
if
we,
you
know,
heard
something
tonight
that
would
substantially
change
that.
Would
we
be
in
a
position
where
we
need
to
come
back.
You
know
yet
another
time
or
is
it?
C
A
You
councilmember
Lowman
my
goal
is
we
come
to
resolution
on
this
this
evening.
We
talked
about
this
last
time
that
I
wanted
to
bring
it
back.
One
final
time:
I
think
staff
totaled
it
up
and
we've
been.
We've
talked
about
this
for
eight
and
a
half
hours
total
now
and
in
in
in
meetings
here
in
the
chambers,
and
so
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
come
to
resolution
one
way
or
another
that'd.
C
Be
a
record
I,
don't
know
that
there's
many
other
things
that
we've
talked
about
to
this
level
and
I
just
wanted
just
to
just
to
be
real
clear,
so
that
both
that
we
as
the
body
understand
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
tonight
and
what
the
expectations
may
be
from
the
from
the
public.
That
is,
you
know.
We've
we've
talked
about
all
different
different
ideas
on
other
things,
so
just
try
to
focus
in
in
on
what
we're
trying
to
get
accomplished
this
evening.
A
A
A
A
I
I
will
say
we
we
had
a
discussion
about
the
possibility
right
now
we
have
officially
we
allowed
five
minutes
per
first
per
speaker
during
our
public
hearings.
We
talked
about
possibly
amending
the
rules,
because
this
is
the
third
time
that
we've
had
a
public
hearing
on
this
to
bring
it
down
to
three
minutes,
perhaps
seeing
that
we've
got
a
reasonable
number
of
folks
here.
A
If
we
had,
you
know
a
full
council
chambers,
I
might
consider
that,
but
I
think
the
fact
that
we've
got
a
reasonable
number
of
folks
here,
I
think
my
recommendation
was
we
just
moved
forward
with
the
five
minutes
and
continue
with
that.
So
I've
officially
opened
the
public
hearing
item
4.3,
I
think
I
know
that
please
come
forward
and
let's,
let's
pass
around
the
clipboard.
A
Q
Yes,
my
name
is
Fred
Sauer
and
I've
been
a
Bloomington
resident
for
over
30
years
and
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
council
for
letting
me
speak
again
this
evening
and
just
to
be
clear.
I
would
like
to
have
the
council
vote
down
option
A
and
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
option
b,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
perfectly
clear.
At
the
start,
and
last
time
I
addressed
the
council,
it
was
about
affordability
and
affordable
housing
and
everything
else.
Q
So
don't
don't
get
me
wrong,
I'm,
all
in
favor
of
affordable
housing.
My
wife
and
I
have
been
contributing
to
Habitat
for
Humanity
for
many
many
years,
but
it's
going
to
take
over
a
quarter
million
dollars
to
subsidize
each
individual
house.
How
many
houses
do
you
think
you're
going
to
be
building
that
are
affordable
housing
here
that
are
single
family
I,
don't
see
how
it's
necessary
to
change
the
lot
size,
zoning
throughout
all
of
R1
for
these
couple
of
houses
that
may
be
built,
there's
got
to
be
a
better
way
to
do
it.
Q
Since
I
spoke
to
you
last
time,
the
discussion
seemed
to
have
changed
from
affordability,
to
having
higher
density.
I
I
remind
I,
kindly
remind
the
council
that
that
was
not
something
that
you
had
put
in
as
one
of
your
goals,
you
didn't
say
anything
in
your
goals.
Well,
for
the
original
proposal
for
higher
density
and
and
since
then
there
was
also
discussion
about
East
versus
West
Bloomington
I.
Take
a
strong
exception
to
that.
Q
I
think
that
the
data
will
show
that
there
are
as
many
properties,
more
properties
on
the
east
side
that
could
be
affected
by
it
by
the
zoning
changes
that
allow
for
smaller
Lots
I.
Don't
know
how
many
people
you've
spoken
to
who
are
who
plan
to
live
on
the
east
side,
who
are
current
homeowners,
who
plan
to
live
there
for
a
long
time
and
have
neighbors
that
could
split
their
Lots
I.
Q
I've
seen
some
6-1
votes,
but
almost
always
it's
a
7-0
vote.
I
would
really
hate
to
see
an
issue
like
this.
That's
so
important
on
option.
A
go
be
passed
on
a
four
to
three
or
even
a
five
to
two
vote.
So
please
remember
your
motto:
One,
Bloomington,
One,
Bloomington,
again
I.
Ask
you
to
vote
I
respectfully.
Ask
you
to
vote
down
option
A.
Thank
you
very
much
for
listening
to
me
this
evening.
Thank.
R
You
I
think
I'll
be
about
30
seconds.
My
ask
I
know
this
has
been
a
laborious
topic,
one
that
we've
all
probably
invested
more
time
than
we've
wanted
to
on
this
topic.
I
know,
including
myself.
The
neighbors
spent
a
lot
of
time
petitioning
we
brought
a
lot
of
stuff
forward,
so
my
only
ask
is
that
the
name,
the
Norman
Ridge
Drive
group,
get
considered
in
the
discussion
for
rs1,
regardless
of
what
happens
here
tonight
or
gets
passed.
However,
however,
that
goes
down
logistically
we
ask
that
we
could
be
considered
in
that
discussion
for
rs1.
A
T
Sandy
Henley
Mr
mayor
council
I
just
wanted
to
reinforce
what
Mr
Sauer
said
that
we
are
looking
for
what
we
stated
in
January.
We
are
looking
for
protection
of
the
environmental
aspects
of
Bloomington.
We
do
not
believe
Bloomington
is
a
one-size-fit-all.
Most
of
us
came
here
specifically
for
something
whether
it
was
the
parks
or
in
our
particular
area,
the
wildlife
and
the
trees,
and
our
request,
or
my
request-
is
that
Bloomington
does
not
have
we're
big
enough.
We're
80,
90
000
residents
that
we
can
have
more
than
one
zoning.
T
A
U
Haven't
I,
don't
know
what
happened
there,
but
so
I
see
my
white,
pines
and
I
think
well,
those
are
probably
going
to
get
killed
and
and
they're
probably
going
to
be
gone
and-
and
you
know
there
will
be
no,
you
know
they'll
just
be
gone.
That'll,
be
that
so
you
know
I
wonder
why
we're
at
the
Leading
Edge
the
gentleman
said
we're
at
the
Leading
Edge
we're
one
of
the
largest
communities
in
Minnesota.
Why
are
we
experimenting
with
one
of
the
largest
communities
it?
U
It's
self-evident
that
reducing
zoning
is
gonna,
is
gonna,
make
things
more
affordable,
I
mean
if
it's
a
wild
west
and
you
can
have
any
lot
size
you
want.
Theoretically,
then
it's
going
to
be
cheaper
because
it's
not
going
to
be
as
desirable
or
as
valuable
and
so
I
think
it's
going
to
have
a
chilling
effect
on
investment
from
homeowners.
U
Obviously,
affordability
is
an
important
issue.
There's
no
question
about
it.
The
question
is:
is
just
sort
of
going
from
a
hundred
foot
to
60
feet?
Is
that
going
to
help?
That
seems
like
a
fairly
drastic
change?
It
seems
like
a
step.
Change
would
be
a
more
sensible
change
in
such
a
large
and
diverse
communities
Bloomington.
V
Good
evening
welcome
good
evening
Mr
Mayor
members
of
the
council,
my
name
is
Nick
Erickson
I'm,
a
senior
director
of
housing,
poly
policy
for
housing.
First
Minnesota
I
want
to
thank
you
for
again
this
important
conversation
and
commend
your
staff
for
their
diligent
work
and
for
allowing
us
to
participate
in
the
process
with
a
cost
analysis.
V
This
is
really
among
the
most
bold
visions
that
we've
seen
in
housing
policy
here
in
the
state,
and
it
does
reflect
the
national
movement
that
has
started
on
housing,
affordability
and
access,
as
your
staff
indicated
that
when
you
do
add,
more
housing
actually
does
slow
housing
costs
growth.
It
actually
will
make
Bloomington
a
more
attractive
Community,
not
just
to
potential
buyers
renters,
but
the
existing
residents.
It
does
help
drive
down
housing
costs.
V
You
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
environment
and
protecting
it's
important
to
note
that
all
housing
will
be
built
following
the
enactment
of
this
proposal
will
be
done
to
the
environmental
standards
of
2023
and
bi.
Which
is
far
greater
than
the
environmental
standards
of
of
many
of
the
house,
homes
and
houses
built
in
the
state
or
in
this
community.
V
Prior
to
the
enactment
of
this
proposal
and
really
what
you
have
with
options,
A
and
B
are-
are
A
Tale
of
Two
Cities
that
could
be
bloomington's
future
option
b,
giving
a
carve
out
to
certain
parts
of
the
community.
Does
you
know
kind
of
bring
questions
as
to
what
is
the
proper
role
for
the
state
in
choosing
housing
policies
for
communities?
V
If
we're
allowing
certain
communities
to
to
to
get
a
carve
out
when
there
is
no
true
environmental
reason
to
do
so,
option
b
is
really
the
Bold
Vision,
where
Bloomington
could
be
a
leader
in
a
template
for
Minnesota
and
really
I.
Ask
you
to
support
option
A,
as
it
will
have
the
greatest
impact
on
housing,
affordability
and
access
in
the
city
of
Bloomington.
Thank
you.
W
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
these
ideas
have
been
proposed,
regardless
of
proximity
to
natural
habitats
and
adding
more
properties
within
smaller
areas,
is
going
to
eliminate
that
freedom
for
those
animals
that
we
all
came
here
to
roam
the
nature
of
the
trees
that
we
all
love
and
support
in
this
in
this
community
are
a
big
part
of
our
lives
and
why
we
live
here.
We
have
just
gone
through
a
major
tax
increase
and
that
hit
those
properties
a
little
bit
harder
per
some
conversations.
I've
had
with
City
members
about
why
that
happened.
W
We're
we
want
to
stay
in
Bloomington.
We
love
the
treatment
we've
had
from
the
city
here
and
I
just
wanted
to
share
my
passion
as
a
homeowner
about
considering
not
passing
a
the
lot
sizes,
don't
really
add
anything
to
the
value
of
our
property
doing
that.
Nor
do
they
sustain
the
nature
that
we
came
here
for.
E
Good
evening
my
name
is
Brian
savig
mayor
members
of
the
city
council.
Don't
have
a
polished
presentation.
I
wasn't
expecting
this
to
come
up
tonight,
but
I
really
see
this
as
a
mom
dad
and
apple
pie
issue.
This
is
this
is
you're,
considering
changing
the
social
contract
between
citizens
and
the
government,
and
that
may
seem
grandiose
or
something
like
that,
but
we
all
came
to
Bloomington
here,
anticipating
and
expecting
the
rules
that
were
in
place
and
that
you
know
I
understand
that
change
happens
and
so
forth.
E
I
I
just
believe
you
know
to
me:
it's
like
citizenship,
except
you're,
restricting
it
instead
of
expanding
it
and
making
it
more
broadly
based
you're,
reducing
it
and
I,
don't
see
you
representing
the
current
resonance,
we
voted
for
you,
guys
you're
you're,
attacking
the
social
contract
that
we
came
here
from
I've
heard
testimony
from
the
council.
That's
that
made
statements
like.
Oh
you
can.
E
You
know,
there's
no
evidence
that
increasing
density
creates
social
problems
or
anything
like
that
when
I
was
in
school,
and
that
was
a
long
time
ago,
there
were
all
kinds
of
studies
talking
about
how
density
increased
social
issues
I
mean
I,
don't
live
in
the
area
that
has
been
strongest
in
opposing
this,
but
I
just
think
this
is
a
a
referendum
type
issue,
not
a
let's
vote
on
it
and
whether
it's
eight
hours
we've
talked
about
it
or
50..
It's
a
basic
issue.
It's
a
basic!
E
Your
home
is
a
mom
dad
an
apple
pie
situation,
we're
talking
about
something
that
even
our
planning
department
is
saying.
It'll,
be
five
years
before
we
know
how
well
this
has
worked
and
whether
it
was
a
good
idea
or
not.
You're
talking
about
making
permanent
changes
and
then
finding
out
five
years
later,
whether
that
was
a
good
idea,
I'm
going
to
argue
that
every
single
change
has
affected
some
citizens
that
never
anticipated
it
would
be
like
that
and
it
isn't
whether
there's
a
bike
lane
in
the
in
the
road.
E
So
my
four-lane
road
went
down
to
two
and
that's
a
inconvenience.
This
is
something
you
come
home
to
every
night
and
live
there,
and
so
you
know
I
I,
guess
it's
a
it's!
It's
a
Do
or
Die
thing
that
it's
it's
the
citizens
rights
versus
the
governments
to
impose
you're
talking
about
something.
That's
restricting
that's!
E
Think
if
you
make
a
decision
tonight
to
lock
something
in
I,
think
you're,
locking
the
people
that
you
represent
out
and
I'm
sorry
to
make
it
such
an
in-your-face
thing,
but
I
really
do
feel
it's
a
basic
situation.
It's
it's
what
you
live
for,
it's
what
you
build
your
future
for
it's!
What
you
bring
your
family
here,
invest
in
and
I
see,
you've
got
45
seconds.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
me.
I
hope
you
'll
take
my
remarks
under.
X
Good
evening
my
name
is
Denise.
Royer
I
live
at
10348
Pleasant
Avenue
South
I
am
here
this
evening
to
indicate
that
I
am
a
strong
advocate
of
housing.
Affordability
as
it
affects
ownership,
as
well
as
rental
I'm,
also
here
to
ask
that
you
support
ordinance
option
A
as
I
have
reviewed
the
information
and
listened
to
our
hearing.
X
There
are
many
factors
involved
and
I
have
to
give
great
credit
to
the
staff
that
has
helped
try
to
clarify
issues
as
well
as
all
of
you,
as
council
members
and
mayor
to
understand
the
complexity
as
it
relates
to
housing,
I
I
guess
this
evening.
We
heard
about
the
the
subsidy
that
that
may
be
needed
to
help
bring
about
some
new
housing
that
would
be
more
affordable
and
I.
X
Guess
my
experiences
that
sometimes
that
takes
a
wide
array
of
Partners
in
order
to
come
and
make
a
change
in
regards
to
important
issues,
and
if
we
need
to
have
a
lot
of
Partners
in
a
variety
of
funding,
so
be
it
I
think
we
need
to
do
that
and
keep
in
mind
our
Bloomington
strategic
plan
that
was
developed
by
many
many
community
members
and
that
keep
in
mind
that
we
have
Bloomington
tomorrow
together.
So
I
encourage
that
you
vote
option
option
A.
Thank
you.
A
Y
Hi
I'm
Tanya
reader
2861
Overlook
Circle,
so
my
question
is
in
option
A
with
the
the
smaller
lot
size
that
allows
obviously
more
dwellings
and
the
connection
to
that
helping,
affordable
housing.
Is
there
anything
in
option
A
that
says
that
the
house
is
put
on
those
new,
smaller
Lots
has
to
be
affordable
or
can
a
developer
come
in
and
put
up
a
seven
hundred
thousand
dollar
home?
That's
okay!
So
then
I
guess
I
do
have
a
little
speech.
Y
It
would
be
that
I
can
I
can
see
the
theory
that
this
would
help
with
affordable
housing,
but
in
many
areas
of
Bloomington
already
before
this,
you
have
houses
being
torn
down
in
big,
beautiful
houses
being
put
up
and
so
I
think
that
would
still
be
a
draw
for
developers
in
Bloomington
because
it's
a
wonderful
place
to
live,
especially
like
you
know
where
we
are.
We
have
a
lot
of
Wildlife
and
a
lot
of
natural
beauty
and
I.
Y
Like
a
lot
of
people
have
already
said,
the
people
who
actually
already
live
in
Bloomington
are
being
affected
negatively
and
then
the
people
that
you're
wanting
to
help
to
be
able
to
have
affordable
housing
aren't
actually
being
helped
because
it's
just
a
developer
coming
in
and
building
a
big
house.
If
there's
no
rule
about
that,
that's
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
P
Z
Good
evening
good
evening,
welcome
I'm
Susan
Jacobson
from
Norman,
Ridge
and
I
just
wanted
to
know.
I
haven't
seen
these
stats
in
Bloomington.
What
is
the
ratio
we
have
for
single
family
houses?
Duplexes
apartment
afford
Apartments,
affordable
housing,
Section
8
compared
to
other
cities.
Other
suburbs
we're
close
to
like
Edina
Eden
Prairie
Burnsville
Woodbury
I
mean
when
I
drive
around
Bloomington.
We
have
all
different
types
of
housing,
more
than
I,
see
in
Eden
Prairie
or
Edina
or
anyplace
else.
So
what
are
we
striving
to
do
here
and
what
are
we
trying
to
be?
Z
A
A
A
Johnson
the
couple
of
questions
that
came
up
the
first
regarding
required
minimum
cost
or
required
cost.
If
a
lot
was
developed,
there
were
some
questions
or
at
least
concerns
regarding
impervious
surface
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
anything
there
to
address
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
at
your
fingertips
the
ratio
of
housing
types
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
Bloomington.
O
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mary
before
I
address
those
specific
questions.
More
of
a
generic
or
general
comment
about
kind
of
the
full,
the
full
scale
of
the
project,
as
it
started
from
point
A
all
the
way
to
Point
Z
that
were
here
or
maybe
point
point
I,
don't
know
what
letter
we'll
see,
but
I
think
this
really
gets
to
one
of
the
things.
That's
really
important.
O
It's
just
consistent
messaging
about
what
the
project
goals
are,
depending
on
who
you're
talking
to
and
depending
on
the
questions
that
they're
asking
or
the
points
that
they
want
to
discuss
with
you
typically
they'll
zero
in
on
one
or
maybe
two
of
the
project
goals.
What
we've
tried
to
communicate
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
project
is
four
different
project
goals
and
that
does
include
adding
housing,
variety
and
new
housing
types
to
Bloomington
that
can't
currently
be
built,
and
that
address
some
of
the
other
discussion
items
that
we've
talked
about
throughout
the
project.
O
So
I
do
want
to
reiterate:
we've
been
guilty
of
ourselves
of
just
kind
of
focusing
on
housing,
a
home
ownership,
affordability
in
closing
the
opportunity
Gap
and
some
of
those
things.
But
there
are
all
these
other
goals
that
we
do
value
as
well.
The
question
about
the
housing
cost
as
far
as
the
possibility
of
more
expensive
homes
being
built
as
a
result
of
some
of
these
changes.
That
certainly
is
a
possibility,
but
one
of
the
goals
that
we
have,
in
fact
I
would
say
it's
a
likelihood.
O
The
regulations
affect
all
the
properties
uniformly,
not
just
the
properties.
We
were
trying
to
create
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities.
So
hopefully
I
touched
on
that
one.
Okay,
on
the
the
10th
speaker,
I'm,
sorry,
I
didn't
catch
your
name,
sir,
but
about
the
impervious
sorry
impervious
surface
questions
we
did
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
at
May
1st
homes
that
are
built
today
are
subject
to
the
most
strict
stormwater
management
regulations,
and
this
actually
affects
additions
too.
O
It
could
be
a
pipe
gallery
or
some
other
form
of
treatment,
but
the
structure
of
the
rules
is
that
you
cannot
increase
the
rate
in
which
storm
water
is
leaving
your
property
from
the
precondition
to
the
post
condition.
That's
the
board,
that's
the
how
the
rules
are
structured
in
Minnesota
and
Bloomington.
So
that's
the
Baseline
in
terms
of
getting
into
the
specific
of
the
regulation
on
the
the
proposed
increase
to
45
percent.
So
today,
all
properties
are
capped
at
35
percent.
All
low
density
residential
is
capped
at
35
percent.
AA
O
Thank
you
Glenn.
If
I
can
add
one
question
or
a
comment
to
the
end
of
the
last
speaker
too,
was
a
concern
about
encroachment
of
the
city's
Park
land.
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
that
these
regulations
are
as
they're
being
proposed,
that
are
applicable
for
projects
in
the
existing
low-density
residential
areas.
There's
been
no
investigation
or
study
of
repurposing
City
Park
land
for
the
purposes
of
creating
housing,
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
fear
to
rest
and.
A
O
B
J
Thank
you,
mayor
I
have
a
follow-up
question
to
that.
What
would
you
I
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
this
or
not,
but
what
would
you
say
led
to
the
tear
down
environment
in
South,
Minneapolis
and
Edina
like
where
there
are
certain
conditions
that
made
it
just
more
like
easier
for
people
to
do
that,
like
I'm,
just
curious
from
your
perspective.
O
Yeah
mayor
councilmember
Carter,
this
might
even
be
a
good
question
for
some
of
the
development
background
to
win.
I
don't
know
if
housing
first,
a
gentleman
would
have
any
cure
what
his
feedback
to
that
would
be,
but
obviously
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
those
sub
real
estate
markets
they're
just
incredibly
desirable
to
tip
a
property
to
the
point
of
being
able
to
acquire
a
three
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
lot
or
property
demo
and
still
drive
a
profit
for
the
Builder
developer
executing
that
project.
O
J
I
remember
a
couple
years
ago,
when
it
was
like
we
were
having
affordable
housing
conversations
and
in
Edina
there
were
no
homes
under
350
000
dollars,
and
so
they
had
this
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
and
anyway,
a
lot
of
conversations
but
I
do
feel
like
in
Bloomington.
We
are
kind
of
on
that
Trend
right
where
our
median
home
value
has
increased
significantly
over
the
past
couple
years.
J
C
Councilmember
Lawman
one
question
they
did
here
as
well
was
with
regard
to
if
we
could
make
a
requirement
within
the
zoning
district
for
affordability,
if
you
could
help
me
understand
so
I
think
that
was
the
gist
of
one
of
the
questioners
they
wanted
to
know.
You
know
what
restricts
this
or
or
what
you
know
makes
sure
that
this
is
going
to
be
affordable,
housing
within
the
zoning
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
know
what
the
what
can
and
can't
we
do
within
a
zoning
industry,
yeah.
O
O
If
there's
a
public
project
that
involves
some
type
of
subsidy
or
even
by
a
private
actor,
a
non-profit
Etc,
they
can
place
affordable
deed
restrictions
on
the
property
that'll
be
occupied
by
a
person
with
a
certain
income
level
for
certain
period
of
time,
but
as
far
as
like
a
carte
blanche
applicable
to
a
specific
zoning,
District
or
specific
use,
I'm
not
aware
that
that
is
legal
I
certainly
would
welcome
any
feedback.
The
City
attorney
has
on
that
front,
but
not
from
my
experience.
That
is
not
a
permitted
approach.
I
O
A
So
Council
we
have
in
front
of
us
two
options:
we
have
the
option
A
and
option
b
that
staff
brought
forward
and
we've,
as
I
mentioned
we
have
been.
This
has
been
discussed
at
length
and
chewed
up
quite
significantly
and
I
I
do
think,
despite
what
others
might
think,
I
do
think
we
we
need
to
make.
We
need
to
move
on
this
one
way
or
another
tonight.
A
We
need
to
to
decide
how
we're
going
to
work
on
this
and
what
we
want,
the
future
to
be
in
Bloomington
how
we,
how
we
want
to
set
up
to
move
forward.
I
will
say:
I've,
you've
heard
it
in
my
voice
and
you've
heard
it
and
seen
it
in
my
actions.
I've
been
very
hesitant
regarding
this.
With
the
the
planning
department,
Planning
Commission
brought
forward
option
A,
basically
I've
been
very
hesitant
because,
frankly,
I
looked
at
it
and
thought.
Well,
this
this
isn't
going
to
be
a
big
deal.
A
A
It
it
wouldn't
be
impactful
to
that
group,
but
it
would
be
very
impactful
to
the
10
folks
who
actually
move
into
a
single
family,
home
and
and
then
I
had
the
opportunity
a
couple
of
opportunities.
Over
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
I
actually
spoke
at
the
Aeon
Beyond
bricks
and
mortar
event,
which
is
their
annual,
an
annual
event
that
aeon
sponsors
and
they're
great
Partners
within
the
city
of
Bloomington,
and
to
hear
stories
about
affordable
housing
needs
within
the
Twin
Cities
and
to
to
talk
as
I
talked
and
kind
of
heard.
A
A
A
The
federal
government
is
now
just
catching
up
on
whether
it's
flavored
tobacco
vaping
conversion
therapy
earn
sick
and
safe.
That
we
passed
here
in
Bloomington
acted
in
our
leadership
role,
that
comes
with
being
the
fourth
largest
city
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
that
comes
with
being
a
a
suburb,
not
a
not
a
Central
City,
but
a
suburb.
Making
these
Broad
and
bold
changes
to
try
and
improve
the
the
community
that
we
are
we
are
in
and
then
seeing
others
follow.
C
Let
me
ask
you
this
question
before
I:
make
any
other
comments
here.
Does
it
make
sense
for
us
to
to
get
this
option
A
out
there,
so
we
know
kind
of
where
we're
working
from
because
I'm
more
than
happy
to
kind
of
get
this
thing
out
here,
so
we
can
have
some
place
to
to
kind
of
work
from
if
we
want
to
work
our
way.
C
C
Mary,
thank
you.
I
think
we've
got
a
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
kind
of
get
this
out
there
and
get
this
clarified,
and
you
know
I've
got
to
say
that
you
know
when
we
gathered
here
many
many
months
ago
we
talked
about
the
idea
of
the
four
things
that
were
placed
forward.
You
know
increasing,
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities,
providing
home
housing
options
and
housing
types,
providing
opportunities
for
info
housing
and
seek
to
address
the
home
ownership
opportunity
gaps
now.
C
Certainly
I
am
you
know,
I'll
be
the
first
person
to
tell
you
that
I
am
very
skeptical
of
of
two
of
those
items
that
are
on
that
list,
but
when
we
you
know,
look
to
the
fact
that
we
don't
do
anything
at
all
with
that.
Well,
I,
don't
you
know?
If
you
don't
do
any
of
those
things,
then
you're
not
going
to
really
accomplish
any
of
those
things
on
that
list,
and
you
know
I
may
not
necessarily.
You
know
agree
with
how
we're
going
about
doing
this.
C
I
do
mayor
feel
like
we
haven't
gone.
No,
they
haven't
gone
far
enough,
but
we've
got
to
start
someplace
and
the
place
where
I
think
we've
got
to
start
is.
We've
got
to
be
clear
about
what
we're
trying
to
do
here,
but
that
doesn't
mean
for
those
neighbors
that
have
come
here
tonight
that
I
have
not
forgotten
about.
C
You
know
the
things
that
you
are
concerned
about
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
were
to
move
this
tonight
the
way
that
it
is
that
we
we
don't
forget
about
those
neighborhoods
they're
part
of
that.
In
fact,
most
of
my
district
is
going
to
be
heavily
impacted
by
this
and
so
I'm
I
know.
We've
got
a
couple
other
things
that
are
possibilities
to
have
that
conversation.
I
want
to
have
those
conversations
and
I
want
to
do
that.
C
I
think
the
only
way
to
really
be
a
leader
is
to
get
out
there
and
try
this
stuff
and
and
so
I
for
one.
You
know
looking
at
the
neighborhoods
that
we've
got
out
there
in
terms
of
you
know
whether
it
be
Overlook
or
whether
it
be
any
of
the
other
neighborhoods
that
have
come
before
us.
We
need
to
look
at
how
do
we
modify
that
rs1
district
and
see
if
that
or
where
it
makes
sense
to
place
folks
there
and
where
it
doesn't
beyond
that?
C
C
C
If
we're
going
to
make
a
concerted
effort
to
be
able
to
make
change
as
it
comes
to
affordable
housing,
we're
going
to
have
to
take
risks,
we
cannot
continue
to
do
things
the
same
way
that
we've
done
before
now.
Certainly
I
I
am
frightened
about
this
and
some
things
about
this
that
make
me
nervous
and
it
should
make
you
nervous,
but
that's
what
change
looks
like,
and
so
we
cannot
stop
simply
here.
C
We
also
need
to
you
know
all
the
things
that
that
folks
have
brought
forward
and
the
things
that
you're
concerned
about
just
because
I
support
this
particular
thing.
I
have
not
forgotten
about
that
and
I'm
going
to
work
tirelessly
to
make
sure
that
the
things
that
you're
concerned
about
about
your
property
and
about
the
people
that
the
neighbors
that
you
live
around
the
the
that
those
things
are
looked
at
and
we
look
at
those
things.
And
so
let
me
wrap
up
by
saying
this.
C
I
I
do
not
believe
that
simply
that
the
environmental
thing
should
be
contained
to
one
zone.
If
we
are
going
to
look
at
environmental
standards,
we
really
need
to
look
across
the
entire
city.
You
know
we
are
also
leaders
in
that
as
well,
just
because
we
have
densification.
That
does
not
mean
that
we
don't
have
a
sustainable
environment
for
folks
to
live
in.
We
have
our
our
folks
that
have
come
before
us
have
done.
C
The
great
work
of
making
sure
that
you
know
about
a
third
of
our
city
is
reserved
for
green
space
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should,
just
because
of
the
way
that
our
lot
size
look
that
we
should.
You
know
not
do
that.
So,
let's
continue
to
find
ways
in
which
that
we
can
continue
to
be
leaders
in
everything
that
we
do.
This
is
going
to
be
hard
and
it's
going
to
be
difficult,
but
I
I'm
willing
to
to
work
to
make
this
operate
and
work.
C
L
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor
just
briefly.
I
I'll
just
add,
because
I
think
everybody
knows
where
I
stand
on.
This
I
was
having
a
conversation
the
other
night,
with
one
of
my
best
friends,
I've
known
him
since
kindergarten,
we
all
grew
up
together
and
I.
I
was
talking
about
projects
at
the
house
and
working
in
the
yard,
and-
and
this
is
my
favorite
time
of
year
and
and
he
just
kind
of
gave
me
this
blank
look,
and
he
was
saying
like
that.
L
That
might
that
must
be
nice,
because
that's
never
gonna
happen
to
me.
I'm
never
gonna
be
able
to
do
that
and
and
he
he
started
talking
and
and
I
just
heard
echoes
of
so
much
of
what
I've
heard,
especially
from
the
younger
folks
in
my
district
or
folks,
all
over
the
region.
That
I
grew
up
with
that
we
were
told
to
go
to
college,
get
a
job,
buy
a
house
settle
down
which
is
true
and
I
believe
in
all
that,
but
the
cost
of
college
has
tripled.
L
In
the
last
30
years,
you
come
out
with
40
Grand
in
student
loans.
Good
luck,
doing
a
down
payment
on
a
home
at
that
point,
get
a
job!
Well,
wages
have
been
staying
since
the
70s,
so
good
luck
paying
off
the
loans.
You've
already
got
much
less
the
mortgage
and
the
value
on
my
home,
I
I'm
extremely
blessed.
L
A
lot
of
us
are
it's:
it's
up,
160
000
in
six
years,
which
I
I
get
pretty
jazzed
up
about,
but
has
completely
locked
out
so
many
of
my
friends
from
ever
being
able
to
put
down
Roots
the
way
I
did
because
I
was
lucky
enough
to
to
be
able
to
work
with
my
folks,
and
it
was
my
great
aunt's
house
that
I
bought
to
buy
it
before
the
market
went
crazy.
So
I
I,
just
I,
appreciate
that
this
conversation
it
has
turned
into
a
mess
in
so
many
any
other
communities
that
we
see.
L
It's
Testament
to
the
neighbors
that
have
come
forward
to
collaborate
but
moving
forward
with
stuff
to
council
member
lohman's
Point,
like
the
environmental
standard
studies
coming
up
with
with
more
specifications
to
be
able
to
standardize
some
of
these
conversations
moving
forward.
I
think
that's
trailblazing
in
and
of
itself
to
say
it
doesn't
need
to
be
one
or
the
other.
This
can
be
comprehensive.
So
thank
you
to
to
everybody
for
having
this
be
a
productive
conversation.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
yeah,
I
too,
want
to
thank
everybody.
Obviously,
we've
come
to
the
end
of
a
long
road
and
it's
not
for
lack
of
trying
to
find
consensus
that
that
we
are
where
we
are
so
much
much
appreciated
to
the
folks
here
and
on
the
phones
and
in
the
emails
and
in
the
face-to-face
conversations.
I
I
There's,
no
doubt
that
it's
going
to
take
a
combination
of
items
to
get
truly
affordable
housing
built
it's
going
to
take
more
in
all
price
points.
It's
going
to
take
subsidies,
it's
going
to
take
corporations
stopping
gouging
prices
for
no
reason
other
than
they
think
they
can
get
away
with
it.
It's
going
to
take.
I
You
know
the
the
cyclical
nature
of
of
people
moving
in
ways
that
allow,
for
you
know,
folks,
to
move
out
of
large
homes
and
back
into
smaller
places,
and
this
that
and
the
other
thing
and
it's
going
to
take
an
increase
in
the
type
of
options
that
we
have
so
so
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
levers
this.
This
is
not
the
lever.
I
I'm,
just
surprised
that
this
is
the
lever.
I
We
think
we
should
be
pulling
first,
that's
what
I
keep
struggling
with
option
b
would
have
unanimous
consent
on
this
board
I'm,
pretty
sure
of
it.
Why
we
wouldn't
do
that
and
then
find
our
way
to
more
incremental
work
on
this
I.
Don't
understand,
because
even
the
Met
Council
will
tell
you
that
every
year
this
goes
back
to
2021
every
year,
we're
missing
out
on
building
the
Truly
Deeply,
affordable
homes
that
need
to
be
done.
The
Gap
is
not
there.
I
The
Gap
is
we're,
okay,
even
in
their
own
words
at
the
50
60
Ami
in
some
cases,
but
we
are
behind
by
86
on
the
stuff.
That's
deeply
affordable,
I.
This
change
doesn't
affect
that
outcome.
In
my
opinion,
at
all,
especially
when
we
already
have
options
on
the
table,
that
would-
and
we
can't
seem
to
get
traction
on
them
and
we're
not
spending
any
time
doing
the
work
to
try
to
get
traction
on
them.
I
We
could
build
two
family
homes
today,
and
we
could
have
been
doing
that
for
three
years
without
touching
the
zoning
code
at
all
and
we'd
have
those
10
people
in
their
homes.
We'd
have
20
people
in
homes
and
we're
not
doing
it.
We're
just
not
so
I
struggle
with
the
idea
that
this
is
the
thing
that's
finally,
gonna
change
it
all
like
that.
I
Doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
because
there's
too
many
other
things
that
we
already
had
available
to
us
that
didn't
move
the
needle
and
all
we're
doing
in
the
meantime
is
really
setting
a
lot
of
folks
who,
who
you
know,
fought
to
use
the
terms
that
Mr
Brian
gave
us
bought
into
whatever
social
contract.
They
thought
they
were
buying
into
we're,
giving
them
a
lot
of
fear
and
uncertainty
and
doubt,
but
we're
not
changing
and
I'm
all
for
that,
like
I
get
it
like.
I
have
to
manage
people
through
change
all
the
time
like
I'm.
I
Not
that's
not
the
point.
I,
don't
know
how
to
manage
people
through
this
change,
because
it
doesn't
actually
have
a
clear
outcome.
That's
worth
the
change
in
my
mind,
other
than
setting
the
table
I
mean
and
if
that's
what
we're
here
to
do.
Fine
but
I,
think
if
we,
if
we
did
option
b
first
and
took
the
five-year
View
and
then
said
that
didn't,
do
it
that's
not
enough.
I
N
We
can't
drop
that
ball
in
my
opinion,
either,
and
also
some
other
concerns
with
related
to
rental
policy,
and
things
like
that.
I
think
the
end
of
the
day,
the
change
in
the
zoning
on
the
lot
sizes
led
to
concerns
about
these
other
things.
It
was
sort
of
an
impetus
to
start
that
thought,
process
and
so
I
think
we
have
a
the
opportunity
to
be
holistic
in
these
areas.
You
know,
as
noted
before
their
area,
their
neighborhood
has
has
benefited
from
splitting
Lots.
N
They
have
a
lot
of
great
neighbor
who
have
you
know
beautiful
houses
in
that
neighborhood.
So
it's
been
an
area
that
has
been
has
benefited
from
being
able
to
split
lots
and
I.
Look
at
what
this
might
do
throughout
the
community,
where
there's,
maybe
a
few
more
opportunities
to
do
that,
and
so
it
might
be
another
great
neighbor.
You
know,
but
this
isn't
something
that's
going
to
take
and
transform
entire
city
blocks
or
anything
like
that.
N
N
There
are
the
ones
that
are
the
most
economically
depressed
and
I'm
hard-pressed
to
see
it
as
a
negative
to
take
out
a
dilapidated,
poorly
maintained
house,
that's
an
eyesore
in
a
neighborhood
and
build
a
nice
house
or
maybe
build
two
nice
houses
and
the
economics
of
it
are
you're
going
to
have
to
go
to
a
bank
and
you're
going
to
have
to
justify
those
houses
to
an
underwriter
in
order
to
get
them
financed.
And
so
you
know
you're
going
to
have
to
have
something
that
fits
within
the
range
of
that
neighborhood.
N
It
won't
be
significantly
less
expensive
than
that
neighborhood,
which
I
think
is
a
concern.
That's
been
raised.
How
do
we
get
affordable
housing
when
we
maybe
aren't
able
to
get
there,
and
the
answer
to
that
is
obviously
subsidy,
but
we're
also
not
going
to
get
houses
that
are
tremendously
outside
of
what
that
existing
neighborhood
is
the
reason,
in
my
opinion,
from
what
I've
seen
in
Minneapolis,
South,
Minneapolis
and
Edina,
that
the
reason
they
have
teardowns
is
basic
Supply
demand.
N
I
mean
people
want
to
live
there
and
they're,
not
making
any
more
land.
So
you
know
if
you
want
to
live
on
on
a
lake
or
near
a
lake,
you
know
you're
going
to
pay
for
it
and
the
people
with
the
money
that
can
do
that
they're
going
to
build
nice
houses
and
that
you
know
frankly,
has
happened
and
will
happen
in
Bloomington
in
some
places.
N
But
this
proposal
does
some
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about.
It
does
increase
opportunities
for
home
ownership.
It
does
create
opportunities
for
different
types
of
products
to
meet
different
needs,
whether
it
be
you
know,
younger
families,
trying
to
find
that
first
house,
I've
I've,
made
a
point
of
saying
this.
A
couple
times:
I
would
not
be
I,
may
not
be
in
Bloomington
if
it
wasn't
for
the
first
house,
I
could
buy
a
rambler
and
that
house
can't
be
built
in
Bloomington
today,
not
because
of
the
lot
size.
N
Frankly,
I'll
be
candid
about
that,
but
it
could
not
be
built,
and
but
we
could
take
and
find
ways
to
build
that
house
to
give
new
families
opportunities
if
we
could
create
a
few
more
Lots
in
that
subdivision.
That's
why,
in
my
mind,
that
subdivision
portion
of
it
is
good
because
it'll
bring
in
good
families.
It
also
gives
us
the
opportunity
for
many
of
our
seniors,
who
are
looking
for
options
to
move
into.
N
We
talked
about
Mr
Johnson
noted
the
slower
growth
one
of
the
things
I
hear
a
lot
of,
is
you
know
my
taxes
keep
going
up
every
year
and,
yes,
we
had
a
significant
Levy
increase
last
year
due
to
investments
in
police
and
fire,
but
we
have
this
Council
for
years
or
those
who
have
been
here,
but
the
city
has
frankly
held
the
line
on
taxes.
What's
driving
up
people's
taxes
is
the
increase
in
property
values?
N
You
know,
councilmember
Martin
may
be
really
happy
about
the
160
000
increase,
but
I'm
sure
that's
hit
the
pocketbook
every
year
on
taxes
it
has
on
my
house
and
it
has
on
a
lot
of
people's
houses.
This
will
not
solve
those
10
houses.
A
year
is
not
going
to
solve
this,
but
this
done
regionally
Statewide.
N
Can
this
is
extraordinarily
important
and
to
take
a
leadership
role
on
that
to
help
show
Woodbury
in
Lakeville
and
Maple
Grove
that
they
don't
need
to
be
afraid
of
this,
that
that
this
can
be
done
and
it
can
be
done
in
a
thriving
Vibrant.
Community
is
a
message
we
can
send
out
there
because
we
need
to.
N
You
know
we
need
to
do
this
in
the
entire
region,
and
you
know
someone
has
to
start
it
and
a
lot
of
these
things
start
somewhere
and
then
finally,
the
legislature
gets
around
to
catching
up
with,
what's
actually
happening
and
I
will
say
that
the
reality
is
we're
not
we're
leaders
in
the
region,
but
not
necessarily
nationally.
This
is
being
done
nationally.
All
over
the
place,
you
know
in
a
lot
of
variety
of
States.
Montana
is
doing
it.
As
is
Colorado,
you
know,
I
mean
you
got
a
Republican
and
he
got
Democratic.
N
N
N
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
think
being
as
permissive
as
we
possibly
can
makes
sense,
so
I
I
support
option,
A,
I
support
working
with
the
Norman
Ridge
Neighborhood
on
their
concerns
and
and
looking
comprehensively
at
the
environment,
rental
other
things
like
that,
as
well
as
the
rs1
and
and
whether
or
not
where
those
locations
make
sense
for
this.
So
that's
my
summary.
AB
A
AB
But
it
isn't
an
easy
decision,
it's
very
difficult
and
has
a
lot
of
emotion
and
feeling
behind
it.
But
when
I
take
a
broad
look
at
it,
this
country,
the
state,
this
city
has
not
done
enough
to
provide
housing
where
people
want
to
live.
There's
land
everywhere,
you
go
to
outstate
Minnesota,
there's
land
to
build
a
house,
but
people
don't
want
to
live
there.
AB
They
want
to
live
here
and
so
just
take
a
step
forward
to
help
provide
that
to
give
property
owners
their
rights
to
do
what
they
want
with
their
property,
that
they
worked
hard
their
whole
life
for
to
cash
in
and
retire,
and
do
some
what
you
want
to
do.
That's
what
this
is
going
to
help
us
do
and
at
this
point
with
where
we're
at
with
housing
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
affordable
or
not
any
housing
is
good
housing.
AB
10
people
will
get
their
houses
and
more
than
that,
if
I
look
at
my
family,
I
want
to
move
to
a
newer
house.
I
have
new
new
kids.
My
house
is
small.
My
72
Rambler
is
too
small
for
us
and
when
I
look
at
the
housing
stock
in
Bloomington
we're
very
tempted
to
move,
because
we
just
don't
have
the
housing
stock
that
supports
the
type
of
lifestyle
that
we
want
to
live
with,
the
kids
that
we
have,
and
so
at
this
point
any
housing
is
good
housing
to
me.
AB
J
You
mayor
so
obviously
I
can
count
noses
and
see
that
the
the
it
seems
like
there's
the
votes
to
to
pass
this.
You
know
my
position
has
not
really
changed.
Much
I
I
feel
most
comfortable
moving
forward
with
option
b.
I
feel
like
in
that
proposal.
There
were
significant
cost
savings
based
on
the
changes
and
then
I
mean
I,
think
council,
member
dalessandro
put
it
very
nicely.
I
think
that
there
is
so
much
opportunity
in
front
of
us
right
now
that
we
haven't
been
leveraging
and
I.
J
If
you
look
at
the
price
per
square
foot
of
land
and
what
land
will
could
be
sold
at
like
with
a
mid-century
Rambler
versus
split
into
two
and
then
houses
built
on
them
and
resold,
like
the
cost
of
land
per
square,
foot
increases
right
and
so
I
just
I
have
some
I
going
into
these
conversations.
My
primary
goal
personally
was
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
things
to
increase
acts
like
affordable
housing
options
for
people
and
I'm,
just
not
convinced
that
option.
J
Absolutely
am
supportive,
with
moving
forward
with
looking
at
more
Environmental
Protection
things
that
we
can
put
into
our
residential
zones
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
protect
the
environment.
I
also
think
we
need
to
take
a
much
stronger
look
at
the
commercial
areas
too
right.
We've
talked
about
that
in
the
past
two
and
so
I
won't
go.
I
won't
go
on
and
on
because
I've
feel,
like
we've
I
think
we
we've
had
enough
conversation
and-
and
we
can
see
where
things
are
falling
so
so
I'll
wrap
it
up.
A
There
thank
you,
councilmember.
Thank
you
all
for
your
comments
and
and
your
thoughtful
discussion
on
this.
Over
the
past
five
months.
However
long
we've
been
talking
about
this
Council
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
table
for
option
A,
which
is
to
adopt
an
ordinance
amending
chapters,
19,
21
and
22
of
the
city
code,
modifying
requirements
for
single
family,
residential
and
two
family,
residential
lots
and
dwellings
related
to
definitions,
lot,
size
and
width,
approval
processes,
setback
requirements,
parking
and
garage
requirements,
planning
and
other
related
standards.
A
A
A
C
AB
A
Motion
by
councilmember
11,
second
by
council
member
MUA
regarding
the
resolution
regarding
the
comprehensive
plan
text,
amendments
no
further
Council
discussion
on
this.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
6-1
with
councilman
council
member
Carter
voting
in
opposition,
and
we
also
have
been
asked
by
staff
and
I.
Think
I
heard
pretty
close
to
unanimity
among
the
council
to
direct
staff
to
draft
potential
future
code
amendments
on
environmental
standards
and
on
the
rs-1
district.
Knowing
that
the
planning
staff
already
has
their
2023
work
plan
in
place.
A
I
Yeah
I'm
in
the
same
boat
as
councilmember,
Lowman,
I
I,
don't
know
what
is
what
would
be
put
off
in
the
2023
work
plan
to
to
make
room
for
this.
They
didn't
bring
that
information
to
the
table
tonight,
so
I
don't
feel
confident.
I
can
make
a
decision,
but
sooner
rather
than
later,
for
me
is
important.
I
A
So
maybe
we
maybe
we
hold
off
on
the
the
direction
to
staff
on
this.
We
could
get
something
back.
I
just
see
a
message
here
from
Mr
verbruik,
something
back
in
June
as
to
what
the
options
would
be,
what
would
fall
off
the
the
work
plan
and
what
would
would
be
replaced
if
this
was
the
case?
So
is
if
everybody's
comfortable
holding
off
this
decision
until
we
have
a
little
bit
more
information
until
June.
A
C
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point.
I
would
prefer
to
see
it
that
first
meeting
in
June
and
I
think
what
I'm
looking
for
is.
You
know
we've
got
a
you
know
a
a
work
plan
for
planning
to
bring
that
forward.
So
we
can
have
a
look
at
that
and
see
if
there's
something
that
makes
sense
that
we
could.
You
know
maybe
maybe
push
out.
So
we
could
get
this
in
there.
So
that'd.
A
N
O
Mayor
Bussey,
councilmember
Nelson,
they
certainly
can
be
split
in
terms
of
the
timing
and
some
of
the
perhaps
that's
part
of
the
discussion
in
June.
If
you
think
of
the
capacity
it
takes,
it's
you
know
a
third
or
a
half
the
capacity
for
one
versus
the
other.
One
probably
involves
more
analysis
than
the
other
potentially,
but
the
other
point
I
was
going
to
make
it
eluded
me
so
never
mind:
okay,
okay,.
O
Oh
I
forgot,
I,
remembered
sorry,
mayor
Bussey,
if
I
I
think
that
again,
this
is
kind
of
similar
to
the
May
first
discussion
around
the
straw
poll
or
head
counting,
but
I
think
what
we
were.
What
I
was
directed
by
the
city
attorneys
that
it
would
be
good
to
get
a
formal
motion
directing
staff
to
work
on
those
things,
but
maybe
that
can
be
delayed
until
June,
5th
I,
don't
know
I.
A
Perhaps
correct
so
we're
comfortable
with
that
again.
Thank
you,
Council
for
the
discussion
on
this
thanks
for
the
work
that
went
into
it
staff.
Thank
you,
I
know
it's.
It's
been
a
long
road
and
neighbors.
Thank
you
all
for,
as
I
said,
your
thoughtful
discussion,
the
the
respectful
disagreements
and
arguments
that
we
had
and
you're
bringing
information
forward.
It's
appreciated
and
it's
it's.
A
A
We
will
move
on
in
our
agenda
item
4.4,
which
is
our
fourth
and
final
public
hearing,
and
this
regarding
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment
in
response
to
a
2022
system
statement
issued
by
the
Metropolitan
Council,
and
we
have
us
with
us
this
evening.
Mr
ramler
Olson
from
our
planning
department
good
evening,
welcome.
K
Okay,
great
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
The
Proposal
before
you
tonight,
is
a
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
that
was
crafted
to
respond
to
a
2022
system
statement
issued
by
the
Metropolitan
Council
last
September
so
stated
differently.
It's
just
to
incorporate
revisions
noted
in
a
2022
system
statement
again
issued
by
Metropolitan
Council.
K
The
system
statement
it's
specific
to
each
Community
within
the
metropolitan
area
summarizes
changes
from
system
plan
updates.
The
the
two
that
are
that
are
the
impetus
for
the
comprehensive
plan
Amendment
before
you
tonight,
or
the
proposal
proposed
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
those
were
completed
in
2020
and
those
system
statements
were
issued
in
just
last
year
and
they're.
K
K
K
We
sent
out
a
form
to
adjacent
jurisdictions
to
well
affected
jurisdictions.
Sorry
I
should
say
that
those
to
invite
commentary
on
the
proposed
comprehensive
plan
Amendment
those
jurisdictions
include
cities,
school
districts,
regional
state
agencies,
Watershed
districts,
we've
only
received
seven
responses,
I
believe
they
have
until
tomorrow,
actually
so
March
May
23rd
to
send
in
those
responses.
K
So
we've
only
received
seven
and
two
of
those
seven
responses
were
from
the
Riley
Purgatory
Bluff
Creek
Watershed
District,
basically
letting
them
know
that
whatever,
however,
these
systems
are,
are
comprehensive
plan
butts
up
against
their
their
policies
and
goals
and
plans.
They'll
need
to
review
anything
that
is
directly
impacted
by
our
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment,
and
then
there
was
some
comments
submitted
by
Three
Rivers
Park
District,
just
asking
us
to
update
some
maps
According
to
some
of
the
plans
that
they've
adopted
since
the
adoption
of
the
Bloomington
comprehensive
plan.
K
Otherwise
yeah
we
haven't
received
any
public
comments
either.
Regarding
the
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment,
just
to
briefly
update
what
happened
on
April
27th
at
plenty
public
hearing
at
that
Planning
Commission
meeting
there
was
unanimous
support.
There
were
two
absences,
but
nonetheless
there
was
a
unanimous,
unanimous
support
for
the
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
the
Planning
Commission-
and
this
was
also
unanimous.
K
There
was
concern
about
the
comprehensive
planning
amendment
process,
as
as
it
specifically
is
used
to
respond
to
the
system
statements
issued
by
met
Council,
I'm
sure,
you've
seen
that
meeting
and
got
a
grasp
of
what
the
the
thrust
of
their
concerns
were.
However,
we
and
staff
did
we.
We
failed
to
remind
them
that
this
is
a
statutory
obligation.
We
need
to
review
our
comprehensive
plan
in
light
of
the
system
statement,
so
we
we
have
to
do
this
despite
misgivings
about
the
process
and
the
section
of
references
there
for
your
review.
K
A
If
there
are
no
questions
from
the
council,
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
at
item
4.4.
It's
regarding
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment
in
response
to
the
2022
system
statement
issued
by
Metropolitan
Council.
Anyone
in
the
Chambers
wishing
to
speak
to
item
4.4
this
evening.
A
A
L
A
Second
motion
by
councilmember
Martin,
second
by
councilmember
Lowman,
to
adopt
the
resolution
approving
the
comprehensive
plan
text
amendments
as
stated
no
further
Council
discussion
on
this.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
7-0.
Thank
you
much.
Thank
you.
A
We
will
move
into
item
five
on
our
agenda.
Our
organizational
business
and
the
first
item
is
item
5.1.
It's
the
consideration
of
a
solid
waste
rate
study.
This
is
something
we
have
talked
about
to
actually
requested
a
couple
of
different
times,
so
I'm
very
glad
to
see
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this
here
we
have
a
Laura
Horner
here,
our
Solid
Waste
program
coordinator
and
the
chair
of
our
sustainability
commission,
Deanna
white,
welcome
good
evening
off.
We
go.
AC
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
mayor,
thank
your
Council
for
inviting
us
here
tonight
and
thank
you
for
your
continued
support
of
our
waste
reduction
efforts
from
the
sustainability
commission
and
for
the
rest
of
the
city.
As
was
stated,
my
name
is
Deanna
white
I'm,
the
current
chair
of
the
sustainability
commission
here
in
Bloomington,
as
well
as
being
a
Bloomington
resident
of
course,
and
we
just
want
to
take
a
a
minute
to
discuss
a
few
minutes
to
discuss
with
you
a
potential
Solid,
Waste
rate
study.
AC
We
know
that
you
all
have
expressed
interest
in
exploring
how
Solid
Waste
rates
could
be
configured
to
incentivize
waste
diversion
and
reduce
rates
for
residents
who
may
be
generating
smaller
amounts
of
waste.
This
interest
is
shared
by
the
sustainability
commission
as
well,
and
conducting
and
assisting
with
the
study
of
our
garbage
and
recycling
rates
is
part
of
the
commission's
work
plan.
AC
For
the
year,
the
commission,
Solid
Waste
working
group
and
I'm,
a
member
of
that
working
group
as
well
as
being
chair,
has
convened
a
number
of
times
recently
with
solid
way
staff
to
review
some
of
the
information
that
you're
going
to
hear
tonight.
This
is
obviously
part
of
an
ongoing
effort
to
address
waste
reduction
in
the
city,
and
so
because
the
details
are
best
left
to
the
hands
of
the
experts,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Laura
Horner,
our
Solid
Waste
program
coordinator
to
walk
you
through
the
details.
AD
So
one
of
those
goals
is
to
utilize
our
Solid
Waste
rates
to
help
create
an
incentive
for
Waste
diversion
through
greater
use
of
our
existing
recycling
program
and
our
new
Organics
recycling
program,
as
well
as
create
more
opportunities
for
Waste
prevention,
and
this
would
be
just
through
generating
less
waste
in
the
first
place.
Over
the
past
two
years,
we
have
added
additional
waste
diversion
Services
here
in
Bloomington,
like
Organics
recycling,
for
residents
to
reduce
their
garbage.
AD
So
with
the
more
comprehensive
program
now
in
place,
it
would
be
a
good
time
to
look
at
how
our
rates
might
help
incentivize
residents
to
utilize
these
services
to
reduce
the
amount
of
garbage
that
they're
putting
in
their
garbage
carts.
So
the
second
main
goal
we
have
heard
from
council
members
in
in
conducting
irate
study
would
be
to
help
reduce
rates
for
residents
on
fixed
incomes
who
do
not
generate
a
lot
of
waste.
In
the
first
place,
we've
heard
this
interest
from
Council
in
our
rate
setting
process
last
year.
AD
We've
also
heard
this
come
up
more
as
conversations
with
residents
have
taken
place
regarding
our
new
Organics
recycling
program.
So
that's
just
some
of
the
the
things
that
we
think
we've
heard
from
Council
in
terms
of
interest
regarding
your
raid
study
so
for
background.
I
wanted
to
share
more
information
about
how
our
rates
are
currently
structured.
AD
In
addition
to
that,
we
do
have
a
fixed
administrative
fee
that
covers
the
city's
administrative
costs
for
providing
our
services,
so
that
includes
some
staffing
customer
service
billing,
as
well
as
our
public
education,
so
for
garbage,
then
residents
can
choose
between
a
small,
medium
or
large
garbage
cart
and
the
price
for
those
carts
increases
slightly
as
the
cart
volume
increases-
and
this
is
so
because
of
state
law
in
the
waste
management
act.
It
requires
that
garbage
rates
be
set.
Utilizing
volume
based
pricing.
This
is
also
known
as
pay
as
you
throw
pricing
So.
AD
AD
So
that's
how
the
garbage
rates
are
set
for
recycling
and
Organics
recycling.
All
residents
pay
the
same
rate
for
both
of
those
those
services,
and
that
is
regardless
of
the
cart
size
or
how
frequently
they
utilize
those
Services.
We
have
received
more
clarification
from
the
state
and
County
recently
that
the
statute
that
requires
residents
who
recycle
cannot
pay
more
than
those
who
do
not
also
includes
Organics
recycling.
AD
So
we
are
in
line
with
state
statute
for
charging
all
residents,
the
same
price
for
Organics
and
Organics
Recycling
and
regular
recycling,
regardless
of
their
participation
in
the
program
and
a
little
bit
about
our
process
for
setting
those
rates.
In
terms
of
the
timeline,
our
rates
are
proposed
initially
in
June
for
the
coming
budget
year,
when
our
budget
process
starts
here
in
Bloomington
again,
and
that's
really
based
on
our
price
with
the
haulers,
and
then
we
hold
a
budget
meeting
with
Council
in
October,
where
we
share
our
proposed
rates.
AD
So
a
little
bit
more
information
about
what
we
know
can
motivate
climate-friendly
Behavior
change.
In
March
of
this
year,
researchers
released
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
reviews
up
to
date
of
research
on
what
what
works
in
making
people
take
action
on
climate
and
what
does
not?
The
study
reviewed
over
430
primary
studies
and
the
study
identified
six
different
types
of
interventions
you
might
take
to
modify
or
change
people's
behavior
regarding
climate.
These
included
interventions
such
as
appeals,
commitments,
feedback,
education,
Financial
incentives
and
social
comparisons.
AD
So
an
appeal
would
be
urging
people
to
act
more
sustainably
by
targeting
their
values
for
certain
things,
a
commitment
would
be
trying
to
motivate
them
by
making
a
public
commitment
or
setting
a
goal.
Education
could
be
just
factual
information
about
the
reasons
you
might
do
something
Financial
incentives
are
fairly
straightforward,
and
this
would
include
programs
such
as
unit
pricing
programs
to
kind
of
reward,
Financial,
behaviors,
and
then
a
social
comparison
would
be
highlighting
people's
pro-environmental
behaviors
as
something
someone
else
should
model
kind
of
keeping
up
with
the
Joneses
type
of
mentality
So.
AD
So,
with
that
information
in
mind,
what
a
pay
as
you
throw
rate
structure
would
do,
is
provide
that
Financial
incentive
to
Residents
to
take
action
and
reduce
the
amount
of
garbage
that
they're
generating.
So
this
this
would
be
right
on
track
with
what
research
is
showing
could
help
with
that
kind
of.
AD
With
that
in
mind,
staff
have
had
preliminary
conversations
with
Dr
Lisa
scumatz
of
schumach's
economic
research,
Associates
she's,
one
of
the
leading
researchers
in
this
field,
she's
a
consultant
for
the
U.S
EPA
and
has
provided
assistance
to
several
cities
across
the
U.S
in
the
development
of
pay.
As
you
throw
programs,
and
she
provided
us
with
more
high-level
scenarios
about
what
our
rates
could
look
like
and
gave
us
a
better
idea
of
what
a
rate
study
would
entail.
AD
So
with
that
in
mind,
you
know
in
order
to
determine
what
that
optimal
pay,
as
you
throw
rate
structure,
should
look
like
how
much
of
a
difference
we
should
have
between
garbage
cart
sizes
staff
and
the
sustainability
commission
do
recommend
moving
forward
with
a
rate
study
based
on
feedback
we
received
from
Council.
Last
year.
We
did
include
in
our
2023
budget
funding
for
a
consultant
to
conduct
a
rate
study
and
provide
recommendations
to
us
in
some
scenarios
regarding
what
those
rates
could
look
like.
AD
So
we
are
here
tonight
to
recommend
releasing
an
RFP
to
get
assistance
with
this
work.
I'll
provide
a
little
bit
more
of
an
overview
as
to
what
that
might
entail.
Really
the
trick
to
operating
a
successful
program
is
to
find
what
that
sweet
spot
is
in
your
rates.
That
is
encouraging
waste
reduction,
but
it's
still
generating
enough
revenue
for
us
to
operate
our
program
successfully.
AD
We
don't
want
to
be
encouraging
too
many
people
to
all
move
to
the
small
cart,
and
then
we
don't
have
enough
Revenue
to
provide
to
the
haulers
for
payments.
So
we
need
to
really
understand
how
much
Behavior
change
will.
We
should
expect-
and
we
can
do
that
through
more
of
a
thorough
analysis
of
actual
waste
generation,
so
that
would
be
going
out
in
the
fields
and
lifting
up
garbage
carts
and
taking
note
of
how
much
material
is
in
the
carts
over
a
set
period
of
time.
AD
AD
Some
of
the
some
of
the
information
we
think
that
we'll
learn
from
this
or
we
could
learn,
is
a
possible
increase
in
that
pay.
As
you
throw
differential
between
cart
sizes.
Currently,
we
have
a
33
price
differential
between
our
small
and
our
medium
carts
and
based
in
some
of
our
preliminary
conversations
with
Dr
skumatz.
Her
research
suggests
that
for
strong
waste
diversion
you
need
between
a
50
to
80
percent
price
differential
between
the
card
sizes.
So
our
33
differential
right
now
is
not
likely
large
enough
to
to
impact
Behavior.
AD
Dr
skumatz
also
shared
some
information
about
the
benefits
of
a
possible
consolidation
of
services
into
one
base
rate
that
varies
based
on
your
garbage
card
size.
So
this
revised
structure
that
would
incorporate
all
of
our
Solid
Waste
Services
into
one
rate
may
help
residents
better
understand
these
Services
as
an
integrated
system
that
the
city
is
providing
rather
than
Standalone
options
that
residents
may
or
may
not
wish
to
participate
in
and
then.
Lastly,
the
study
might
provide
us
with
put
potential
pricing
for
an
addition
of
an
every
other
week.
Garbage
cart
service
level.
AD
So
this
would
be
a
fourth
service
level
that
a
resident
could
choose.
Currently,
our
contract
with
the
haulers
does
include
pricing
and
a
provision
for
turning
on
this
every
other
week,
garbage
service
level.
So
that's
something
we
could
do
tomorrow,
but
the
price
difference
in
the
contract
is
very
minimal
for
the
small
or
every
other
week,
cart
that
would
be
12.31
cents
versus
thirteen
dollar
thirteen
dollars
and
three
cents
for
weekly.
AD
AD
We
think
that
further
research
is
needed
to
identify
how
this
would
impact
residents
across
the
study,
and
we
would
recommend,
in
conjunction
with
the
consultant,
Solid
Waste
race
study,
undertaking
the
racial
Equity
impact
assessment
to
be
conducted,
so
we
can
kind
of
better
understand
how
modifying
our
rates
might
affect
residents
across
the
city.
We
do
know
that
residents
with
a
fixed
income
who
may
who
may
already
or
residents
who
might
already
be
zero
wasters,
they
will
likely
be
paying
less
for
services
with
this.
AD
However,
larger
families
with
more
kids,
who
might
be
generating
more
garbage
might
be
adversely
affected
by
paying
more
for
their
services.
So
a
rate
study
would
help
this
rate
study
in
a
racial
Equity
impact
assessment
could
help
us
better
understand
the
cart
sizes
across
the
city
and
how
this
might
affect
different
communities.
AD
The
next
thing
to
consider
are
the
financial
risks
which
I
think
I
touched
on
a
bit
earlier,
but
we
do
know
that
too
aggressive
of
a
pay
differential
could
kind
of
short
the
city
and
revenue.
If
too,
many
residents
move
to
the
smaller
cart
size,
however,
conducting
a
rate
study
and
getting
more
detailed
information
specific
to
Bloomington
is
going
to
help
us
reduce
the
risk
associated
with
this.
AD
So
this
slide
shows
you
a
proposed
timeline.
I
think
the
main
takeaway
here
is
this
rate
study
and
if
the
council
were
to
provide
us
with
direction
to
move
forward
and
ultimately
modify
rates
after
a
rate
study,
this
would
not
affect
rates
until
at
the
earliest
2025,
and
that's
because
this
will
take
us
some
time
to
get
started.
As
you
know,
the
budget
setting
process
begins
in
June,
so
be
a
little
bit
too
soon
to
propose
rates
for
for
2024,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
aware.
This
would
be
beginning
in
2025.
AD
It
also
provides
us.
We
know
that
this
topic
will
be
popular
for
residents
as
well.
They'll
see
it
directly
on
a
utility
bill
changes,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
education
and
providing
good
opportunities
for
Community
engagement,
so
residents
feel
like
they're
understanding,
what's
happening
and
may
have
some
buy-in
in
any
in
any
scenarios
here.
A
N
AD
N
AD
That's
that's
correct.
We
and
I
know
that's
something
that
the
council
has
been
interested
in
and
something
we
kind
of
tried
for
in
our
last
negotiations
with
the
haulers
was
to
move
to
a
system
where
we
may
consider
paying
for
a
disposal
directly
So.
Currently
we
we
don't
it's
set
into
our
rates,
so
we
don't
save
any
money.
In
that
scenario,.
A
I
think,
in
addition
to
the
pay,
as
you
throw
model-
and
you
know
studying
that,
based
on
what
I've
heard
this
Council
talk
about
in
in
the
past-
some
other
kind
of
creative
possibilities,
you
know-
we've
talked
about
neighbors
sharing
a
can-
or
you
know
the
every
other
week
or
you
know
some
ways
to
to
look
at
this.
This
issue
creatively
and
I
understand.
There's
the
business
model
end
of
things
where
you
got
to
pay
the
bills.
A
It's
got
It's
gotta
cash
out,
but
there
must
be
other
cities
elsewhere
who
are
facing
who
or
who
have
faced
the
same
thing
and
have
come
up
with
some
creative
way
to
try
and
and
deal
with
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
hear
from
you
know:
single-family
households
that
simply
don't
generate
the
waste
even
to
fill
a
small
can
so
I
think
I
I
mean.
Is
that
possible
to
throw
that
into
an
RFP
as
well?
AD
A
Think
it's
certainly
reducing
waste,
but
also
the
the
options
for
homeowners
of
how
to
dispose
of
their
waste.
Sure
you
know
again.
Could
they
share,
could
could
two
neighbors
share
a
trash
can
or
or
something
along
those
lines?
And
that's
the
extent
of
my
you
know:
trash
reduction
creativity
at
this
time
of
night
right
now
on
a
Monday,
but
I
mean
there's
got
to
be
other.
There's
got
to
be
other
models
that
are
out
there
somewhere.
Where
folks,
who
don't
generate
the
trash.
There
are
options
for
them.
AD
AC
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
behind
all
of
our
efforts
to
reduce
waste,
we
try
to
think
about
how
that
impacts,
the
market
and
packaging
and
all
of
the
Upstream
Upstream
solutions
that
are
ultimately
necessary
to
read
to
significantly
reduce
garbage,
not
just
in
Bloomington.
But
you
know
across
the
country
and
so
look
we're
constantly
looking
for
new
and
creative
ways
to
do
it
and
and
would
welcome
any
thoughts
you
all
have,
but
we'll
also
do
a
little
more
research
on
our
own
as
well.
So.
I
Thank
you
mayor
nice
to
see
you
both
one
of
the
other
ideas
that
I
had
talked
with
some
neighbors
about
was
when
they're
on
a
cul-de-sac.
Can
they
have
a
kind
of
a
collection
area
at
the
end
of
the
cul-de-sac?
People
don't
have
a
problem
moving
things
down,
but
the
amount
of
time
it
takes
to
go
around
a
cul-de-sac
and
pick
up
all
the
trash
and
everything
versus
having
a
maybe
a
larger
setup
for
a
cul-de-sac.
I
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
those
we
have
in
this
city,
but
we
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
them.
So
you
know
that's
another
idea
for
sharing
a
collection.
My
understanding
from
some
folks
is
that
you
know
when
they
get
constrained
in
a
cul-de-sac
area
like
that,
every
person
having
to
have
four
cans.
It
gets
a
little
tedious,
but
if
they
could
divide
that,
you
know
people
who
might
not
be
participating
in
Organics
recycling
today
might
choose
to
do
that.
I
If
there
was
a
place
at
the
end
of
the
block
that
they
could
go
to
so
I
think
including
those
kinds
of
things
and,
and
then
thinking
about
that
for
the
purposes
of
the
haulers
as
well,
because
the
last
stops
they
make
the
more
efficient
they
can
be,
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
that
was
one
idea
that
I
had
I
I'm
a
big
fan.
I
know
that
there
are
con.
You
know
concerns
about
larger,
larger,
larger
cart
sizes.
I
You
know
affecting
larger
family
sizes
and
and
us
not
being
too
punitive
simply
because
a
person
or
family
decides
to
be
larger
and
I
I
respect
that
I
think
there's
a
real
child
challenge,
though,
in
education
associated
with
families,
meaning
that
there
are
there
are
options,
opportunities
for
us
to
do
work
with
families
to
understand.
You
know
how
they
can
reduce
their
garbage
accumulation
and
and
why
it's
important
and
and
give
them
incentivized
incentives
to
do
that.
I
You
know
in
multiple
languages
and
in
multiple
ways,
so
you
know
there's
an
Outreach
component
to
this.
That
I
think
would
be
very
interesting
and
maybe
maybe
the
consultant
can
look
at,
even
even
if
it's
larger
cities,
but
in
certain
cities,
where
there's
a
a
ton
of
diversity,
you
know
even
even
what
might
be
happening
in
a
place
like
LA
or
Houston.
I
You
know
where
we
can
have
a
sense
for
how
how
you
communicate
to
folks,
who
don't
have
you
know
I
I'm,
a
white
gal
who
watched
the
Native
American
with
the
tear
on
the
side
of
the
road
in
the
70s
right.
I,
know
why
I
don't
litter
and
I
know
why
I'm
good
with
my
garbage,
but
obviously
I'm,
that
I'm
a
privileged
person
in
a
white
community
that
was
very
white
for
a
long
time
and
people
who
come
to
this
country.
I
Don't
necessarily
have
those
memories
and
don't
necessarily
have
those
incentives
and
that's
fine,
but
so
for
them
to
have
an
understanding
about
why
we
value
it
and
to
help
them
understand
if
it
could
be
something
that's
valuable
to
them
that
there's
an
there's
a
barrier
to
overcome
there.
That
I
think
is
important
and
I.
Think
it's
on
us
to
do
that,
as
opposed
to
just
expecting
people
to
like
figure
it
out.
I
If
you
know
what
I
mean
so
I
I
think
having
a
clear
understanding
of
how
Multicultural
programs
of
Outreach
can
affect.
This
is
a
is
that
social
component
that
you
kind
of
allude
to.
So
it's
not
just
about
the
finances.
It's
really
about
the
adoption
and
I
think
that's
an
important
component,
So
yeah!
Thank
you.
Thanks.
C
So,
let's,
let's
see
what
happens
when
the
next
one
comes
along,
you
know
am
I
going
to
be
made
into
a
liar
and
be
forced
into
the
into
the
medium
one.
So
I
do
I
really
appreciate
that
that
statement,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
can
be
and
should
be.
You
know,
as
we
get
ready
to
do,
that
study.
Look
at
look
at
that.
So
appreciate
that
before
I
move
on
to
the
next
couple,
things
that
I
wanted
to
mention
I
just
wanted
to
just
thank
staff.
C
For
you
know
you
guys
worked
hard
on
this.
You
know
I,
really,
grinded.
You
guys
pretty
hard
on
some
questions
and
so
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
that
you
did
to
bring
this
before
the
council
and
just
want
to
let
you
know
how
much
I
I
sincerely
appreciate
that
and
also
the
other
folks
that
were
on
on
the
group
with
us.
C
One
piece
and
I
know
I
brought
this
up
before,
but
I
wanted
to
just
be
sure.
I
brought
this
forward
tonight
is
the
cart
sizes?
Could
you
could
you
just
you
know
ever
so
briefly?
Talk
about!
You
know
we're
kind
of
locked
into
those
cart
sizes
that
we
kind
of
have
right
now
and
that
there
isn't
really
those
options
to
bring
in
because
I
I'm
like
well.
Why
don't
we
stick
a
cart
size
in
between
the
medium,
the
smaller
and
the
bigger?
Could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
AD
Sure,
mayor
council,
member
lemon,
that's
a
great
point
and
we,
our
cart
sizes,
are
based
on
really
the
standard,
cart
sizes
that
all
haulers
provide
to
communities
and
it's
kind
of
also
based
on
the
trucks
and
the
arms
that
they
can
use.
So
oftentimes
we
hear
well
I,
would
never
fill
a
full
30
gallon,
Organics,
cart
and
I.
Think
we
understand
that
you
have
a
lot
of
food
waste
if
you
were
filling
that
every
week,
but
that
cart
size
is
based
on
the
the
need
to
actually
pick
that
up
with
the
automated
arm.
A
I
also
appreciate,
because
remember
sure,
excuse
me
just
one
second
I'm
going
to
push
back
on
you
just
a
little
bit
there
sure,
because
as
I
watch
them
pick
up,
my
Organics
the
guy
gets
out
of
the
truck
opens.
The
lid
reaches
in
and
picks
up
the
the
bag
and
throws
it
into
the
truck
and
so
I
understand
what
you're
seeing
I
mean
it
conceivably.
Is
that
but
I
think
more
practically
I,
don't
know
that
that's
happening
I,
don't
think
they
come
around
with
the
truck
in
my
neighborhood.
A
C
I
C
C
B
AB
Member
more
thank
you.
Mayor
I
want
to
Echo
what
council
member
dalessandro
said
about
the
Outreach
as
well.
I
would
say
that
I
would
prefer
to
see
a
blue
hole,
Bloomington
outreach
program,
because,
when
I
drive
around
my
neighborhood
there's
only
about
30
40
of
people
with
Organics,
so
I
think
there's
a
broader
need
for
education
for
our
residents
as
a
whole,
and
then
additionally,
I
would
love
to
see
some
long-term
impacts
of
this.
AB
When
we
talk
about
the
demographics
of
Bloomington
bloomington's
getting
older,
but
obviously
with
that
comes
a
natural
turnover
where
we
get
younger
and
families
come
in,
so
I
would
love
to
see
a
long-term
impact
of
if
this
goes
and
demographics
demographics
change.
How
does
that
impact
our
our
waste
removal
system
in
the
future.
N
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
don't
know
if
this
applies
at
all,
but
would
there
be
any
consideration
of
looking
at
it
I
believe,
there's
a
private
company
that
takes
some
things.
You
know
you
can
call
and
have
them
collect.
I
forget
the
name
of
it
and
with
that
I
mean
that
obviously
impacts
whether
it
goes
into
a
trash
can
or
goes
somewhere
else.
But
it's
not
it's
for
Fairly
specific
products,
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
idea
what
I'm
talking
about
okay,
can
you
help
me
out
so
I.
AD
Mean
sure,
certainly,
council,
member
Nelson
I
believe
you're,
potentially
referring
to
ridwell,
yes,
which
is
a
like
a
specialized
company,
and
what
they
really
try
to
do
is
pick
up
items
that
cannot
be
put
in
your
carts
currently.
So
it
wouldn't
necessarily
impact
what
residents
can
put
in
their
Recycling
and
Organics
recycling
carts.
But
it's
another
opportunity
for
specialized
recycling
of
items
like
plastic
bags
that
you
can
put
in
your
regular
recycling,
cart
or
batteries.
AD
Textiles
and
different
specialized
items,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
that
would
fall
into
a
rate
study
piece
because
it
is
so
specialized
and
it
wouldn't
necessarily
impact
what's
going
in
those
current
carts.
But
we
do
know
that
that's
a
popular
program
here
in
Bloomington,
and
we
do
get
questions
about
that
from
residents
from
time
to
time.
N
N
So
I
had
that
question.
The
other
question
I
had
was
related
to
timing
of
this,
because
there
is
the
risk
that
you
noted
that
you
know.
If
we
overemphasize
the
difference,
we
get
a
lot
of
people
that
maybe
don't
even
change
their
behaviors,
that
much
they're
just
one
of
those
families
that
for
five
dollars
a
month
they
didn't
get
a
smaller
card.
They
just
haven't
got
around
to
that
all
of
a
sudden.
They
go
wait.
Now
it's
a
lot
more.
N
They
get
that
smaller
cart,
we're
not
reducing
any
trash,
but
we're
generating
less
Revenue
and
taking
that
risk
that
you
noted
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
does
it
make
sense
to
time
this
to
the
hopefully
RFP
process
or
whatever
process
we
use
with
the
trash
haulers
at
the
end
of
that
term?
So
we
don't.
We
can
eliminate
that
risk
and
kind
of
tie
this
in
with
them
on
what
what
they're
doing.
AD
N
You
yeah
in
my
mind
the
the
benefit.
Is
you
eliminate
that
risk,
because
then
you
got
those
costs
lined
up
in
there,
so
I
had
a
third,
oh
I
was
the
mayor
was
trying
to
be
creative,
so
and
I.
Think
I've
asked
this
before,
and
it's
probably
not
possible
I
remember
having
a
trash
hauler
many
years
ago
that
actually
weighed
the
the
trash,
and
there
was
some
kind
of
program
I
had
they
weighed
I
think
the
recycling
it
was
so
they
were
incentivizing.
N
You
know
bricks
in
the
bottom
of
your
recycling
bin
or
something
it
was
interesting,
but
the
I've
I've
always
wondered
and
I
think
I've
asked
this
before
and
I
think.
The
answer
is
no,
but
I
just
ask
it
again.
That
is
there
a
possibility
to
just
go
straight
weight
based
system,
and
if
you
generate
a
lot
less
you
pay
a
lot
less.
If
you
generate
more,
you
pay
more,
and
you
know
the
cart.
Size
is
a
proxy
for
that.
Could
we
just
measure
it
directly.
AD
Foreign
sure
so,
council
member
Nelson,
currently
that
sort
of
Technology
really
isn't
being
utilized
in
in
this
area
to
be
providing
the
pricing
solely
based
on
the
weight
of
the
material
kind
of
the
standard
is
based
on
card
sizes
for
pricing.
It
might
present
more
difficulties
for
a
city
to
know
how
much
they
need
to
be
paying
based
on
the
how
different
it
would
be
for
each
resident
so
budgeting
that
could
become
a
little
bit
more
complicated
as
well
as
you
might
not
have
as
good
of
an
understanding
of
the
amount
of
material.
AD
A
To
cancel
the
the
slide
with
the
recommendation
is
actually
the
language
is
a
bit
different
than
what
the
official
motion
sheet
has
and
I
think.
The
official
motion
sheet
is
what
staff
is
looking
for.
So
unless
there's
further
discussion
on
this,
I
would
look
for
a
motion
to
direct
staff
to
initiate
a
solid
waste
rate
study
and
issue
on
a
request
for
proposal
for
Consulting
assistance.
N
C
I
I
S
I
N
Yeah,
just
a
quick
comment:
I
I
appreciate
that
council,
member
dalessandro
and
I
I
would
say
that
it's
still
oppose
it
because
of
the
fact
that
I
think
the
data
would
be
more
timely
if
it
was
tied
in
with
that
process,
it
would
be
instead
of
a
little
bit
more
stale.
It
would
be
timely
to
that
decision
on
there.
So,
but
look,
my
guess:
is
it's
going
to
go
down
6-1
and
or
go
forward?
N
I
Yep
so
I
apologize,
councilmember,
Nelson
I
thought
you
were
opposing
it
on
the
grounds
of
the
timing
of
implementation,
but
you're
opposing
it
on
the
grounds
of
when
to
kick
off
the
RFP
and
I
didn't
understand
that
so
apologies
duly
noted,
I
I,
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment
of
thanks.
I
ever
since
I
ran
for
office,
the
first
time
I've
talked
to
many
many
seniors,
especially
on
fixed
income,
who
don't
understand
how
our
rates
are
determined
and
things
like
that.
They
don't
they
don't
mean
to
be
mad,
but
oftentimes.
I
They
are
because
their
bill
just
keeps
going
up
or
they
just
don't
understand
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
or
they
just
literally
have
one
bag
of
garbage
every
other
week,
and
they
just
don't
know
why
they
can't
put
it
out
every
other
week
or
share
with
their
neighbor
and
so
I
love
that
you're
doing
this.
It's
a
big
part
of
what
I
think
we
can
do
for
benefits
for
for
that
population.
You
know,
40
of
of
the
city
of
Bloomington
is
over
the
age
of
50.
I
A
Very
good
we've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
on
the
table.
No
for
the
council
discussion
on
this.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
6-1
with
councilmember
Nelson
in
opposition.
Thank
you
much
for
pulling
this
together.
I
like
I
like
the
direction.
This
is
going
curious
to
see
where
we're
going
to
end
up.
So
thank.
A
Item
5.2
on
our
organizational
business
is
the
2023
legislative
update
and
I
will
tell
you
folks.
As
I've
sat
here.
Mr
Sable
has
been
working
on
it
feverishly
because
it's
been
changing
in
about
the
past
every
15
minutes,
or
so
it
keeps
changing.
So
he
keeps
trying
to
get
the
most
updated
information
possible
from
Saint.
Paul
I
will
turn
it
over
Mr.
AE
Thank
you
mayor
and
council
members.
They,
the
house,
is
still
in
recess
of
the
call
of
the
speaker.
They
are
the
revisers
offices
making
sure
that
all
of
the
bills
match
and
all
of
the
language
matches
our
lobbyist
says.
11
pm
is
the
current
Target
for
end
of
session.
I
did
want
to
provide
just
a
little
bit
of
update
and
I.
AE
This
was
the
ability
to
to
ask
for
legislative
support
for
a
half
cent
sales
tax
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
to
fund
the
Community
Health
and
Wellness
Center
and
Public
Health
Building
for
100
million
dollars,
Renovations
the
Bloomington
Ice
Garden
for
35
million
dollars
and
a
Nine
Mile
Creek
Corridor
renewal
project
for
20
million
dollars.
I
am
happy
to
say
that
that
is
included
in
the
tax
bill
and
is
on
its
way
to
the
governor
and
the
governor.
AE
Isn't
fully
intending
to
sign
it,
so
it's
exciting
opportunity
for
the
city
of
Bloomington
to
make
some
significant
investments
in
things
that
this
community
has
longed
for,
and
you
know
from
an
environmental
standpoint
it
based
kind
of
on
the
previous
discussions,
making
sure
that
the
Bloomington
Ice
Garden
continues
to
function,
for
our
communities
is
a
huge
one,
and
so
we
will.
The
bill
will
be
passed
and
signed
into
law.
The
governor's
office
has
three
days
to
sign
it
once
the
bill
has
been
submitted
to
them
to
him
so
there.
AE
If
the
house
or
Senate
delays
the
submittal,
it
could
extend
out
the
the
signing
ceremonies,
but
we'd
expect
them
to
kind
of
wrap
up
this
week.
So
that's
very
exciting
opportunity
for
us,
and
so
we
will
bring
forward
we'll
work
on
the
back
end,
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
resolutions
accepting
the
authorization
and
then
getting
into
discussions
about
how
to
include
those
items
on
the
ballot
initiative,
as
they
are.
AE
AE
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
mention
in
the
state
bonding
request
is
sometimes
we
support
the
efforts
of
others,
and
so
the
Bloomington
remembers
veterans
project
was
submitted
for
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
happy
to
announce
that
they
are
going
to
get
that
dollar
amount.
The
community
group
still
has
some
fundraising
to
go
on
their
end,
but
I
think
when
you
reach
the
more
than
50
threshold.
AE
I
think
lots
of
other
people
like
to
see
dollars
in
so
we
were
encouraged
that
they're
going
to
move
forward
with
that,
with
related
with
regard
to
Expo
2027,
the
city
of
the
Port
Authority,
who
sought
15
million
dollars
in
planning
services
for
the
host
committee.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
state
has
authorized
five
million
dollars
in
seed
money
for
that,
and
so
we're
developing
the
necessary
agreements.
AE
So,
while
the
I-494
vision
project
was
not
fully
funded
and
outlined
in
the
bill,
the
quarter
of
Commerce
dollar
that
was
submitted
was
more
than
the
70
million
dollars.
They
just
didn't
earmark
any
projects
and
so
there's
more
money
available,
but
it's
not
dedicated,
so
we
will
have
to
do
some
work
on
our
end,
for
advocacy
at
the
with
MnDOT
and
with
our
planning
team,
but
so
there's
significant
dollars
in
transportation
and
I.
Also
then
make
note
that
there
is
a
sizable
investments
in
a
metropolitan
sales
tax
to
go
towards
transportation
and
indexed.
AE
With
regard
to
Public
Safety
I,
we
we
talked
about
some
strategic
Investments
in
both
equipment
and
Technology,
but
also
then
on
brain
health.
Those
were
two
efforts
that
Chief
Hodges
had
identified
early
on
in
his
tenure
here
as
necessary,
and
we
have
our
Public
Safety
allocation
directly
from
the
most
recent
bill
is
3.98
million
dollars
in
one-time
funding
for
Public
Safety
related
measures.
AE
Now
it's
intended
to
be
a
balance,
split
between
police
and
fire
and
so
I
think
Chief
seal
and
chief
Hodges
will
discuss
and
negotiate
what
that
might
look
like.
It
is
not
allowed
for
vehicles,
and
so
this
really
does
it's
an
opportunity
to
make
a
Strategic
investment,
but
a
one-time
investment
in
Service
delivery
model
and
so
stay
tuned.
For
that
that
money
will
come
forward
at
3.98
million
dollars
and
then
the
economic
development.
AE
Our
partners
at
McGuff,
had
asked
for
an
extension
of
the
five-year
Tiff
at
the
Bloomington
Central
Station,
and
that
provision
is
in
the
tax
bill.
And
so
we
were
successful
in
getting
that.
The
tax
committee
chair,
who
arguably
knows
more
about
taxes
than
anyone
in
the
state
of
Minnesota,
preferred
her
language
being
in
the
bill,
and
we
were
more
than
willing
to
accommodate
that
because,
ultimately,
the
decision
will
rest
with
this
body
and
how
that
plays
out
and
so
from
a
standpoint
of
priorities.
I
think
the
city
of
Bloomington
came
out
very,
very
well.
AE
I
will
say
that
I,
the
bonding
bill
has
always
the
most
complicated
politically
because
it's
required
a
certain
number
of
votes
which
is
greater
than
50.
So
it's
a
it's
a
60
majority,
and
so
the
the
what
happens
behind
the
scenes
at
the
Capitol
is
very
important,
and
so
sometimes
you're
winners
and
sometimes
you're
losers,
but
as
the
fourth
largest
city
in
the
state
I
think
our
influence
is
growing
and
I.
Just
make
note
that
the
city
of
Rochester
received
19
million
dollars
in
bonding
requests
and
a
local
option.
AE
Sales
tax
request,
so
I
think
our
advocacy
and
message
for
next
year
ought
to
be.
We
ought
to
be
higher
in
the
bonding
bill
from
this
point
going
forward
and
and
Flex
the
city's
muscle
a
little
bit
as
the
fourth
largest
city
in
the
state.
There
are
some
policy
changes
that
happened,
a
legalization
of
marijuana.
AE
We
have
until
August
1st
to
figure
it
out,
so
we
will
be
back
before
the
city
council
will
some
pretty
clear
policy
questions
about
what
we're
going
to
do
with
marijuana
and
and
we
did,
we
have
to
work
on
a
name
too.
We
somebody
said
Devil's
lettuce
and
we
weren't
sure
that
that
was
the
appropriate
title
for
a
working
group,
but
don't
didn't
mean
to
make
light
of
that.
But
I
thought
it
was
great.
AE
The
other
thing
I
would
I
would
note,
is
there's
a
significant
investment
in
local
housing
dollars
that
are
available
through
a
sales
tax
and
in
addition
to
that
then
earns
the
state
also
approved
paid
family
leave
and
earn
sick
and
safe,
leave
and
again
I'm
able
to
ask
Melissa
manorshire
to
talk
about
kind
of
the
working
group.
But
there
are
side-by-side
bills
being
or
reviews
being
done.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
If
that's
okay,
mayor,
please.
S
Thank
you
mayor
members,
Mike,
the
there
are
a
handful
of
cities
in
Minnesota
that
have
and
earned
sick
and
safe
leave
local
ordinance,
and
many
of
them
got
together
last
week
and
talked
through
what
the
state
legislation
is
like
compared
to
the
locals.
Many
of
the
locals
are
similar.
The
state
legislation
is
similar
as
well,
but
there
are
some
very
specific
differences
talked
through
many
of
those
differences
today
internally,
and
there
is
a
meeting.
S
It's
coming
up,
Wednesday
with
Jamie
and
Mike,
and
some
others
to
talk
through
some
of
the
decision
points
that
need
to
be
made
with
regard
to
how
we're
going
to
handle
the
next
steps.
The
state
legislation
is
effective,
January
1st
of
next
year,
and
our
local
legislation
is
effective,
July
1st,
so
we
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
Education
in
the
intervening
time
period
that,
since
you
all
adopted
it,
and
so
we
need
to
make
some
decisions
about
possible
next
steps
and-
and
we
will
have
those
and
they
will
be
communicated.
S
We
also
I
will
add
in
working
with
those
communities
that
also
have
local
ordinances
have
talked
to
them,
about
coordinating
our
edits
and
our
amendments.
If
there
are
some
such
that
we
are
consistent
across
jurisdictions.
Many
of
us
share
boundaries
and
we
want
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
businesses
to
comply.
AE
Anything
else
Dan
well
Mr,
Mayor
and
council
members
I
think
the
only
other
thing
I
would
add
is
that
the
State
Department
of
Economic
Development,
put
in
a
significant,
nearly
half
a
billion
dollars
or
more
of
investment
in
the
chips
act
in
Minnesota
forward
and
making
sure
that
there
are
smart
investments
in
semiconductor
technology
and
and
Bloomington
can
would
will
light.
Bloomington
businesses
will
likely
benefit
from
that
provision
in
the
bill
and
I
see
City
Manager
for
Brucie's
head
popped
up
on
the
screen
and
so
I'm
I'm
presuming.
AF
Thank
you,
Mr
Marin,
council
members
good
evening,
I,
I
I,
don't
think
that
Mike
missed
much
of
anything.
So
just
a
couple
of
additional
items:
the
the
South
Metro
Public
Safety,
Training
Center,
which
is
a
joint
operation.
It's
a
joint
Powers
organization
of
the
city
of
Bloomington,
Edina,
Eden
Prairie
and
the
Metropolitan
airports
commission
also
received
a
million
dollars
in
the
bonding
bill
that
is
going
towards
Capital
Improvement
there
to
to
enhance
that
facility
for
public
safety
training
purposes.
So
we
were
very
pleased
to
see
that
and
the
other.
AF
However,
however,
folks
feel
about
that,
what
it
means
is,
there's
an
awful
lot
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
absorb,
and
so
my
reference
to
working
with
our
friends
at
the
league
of
Minnesota
cities
and
also
at
Metro
cities.
They
will
be
providing
us
a
significant
summary
information
for
all
of
the
bills
that
have
asked
relative
to
local
government,
and
we
may
have
a
series
of
issues
that
we'll
be
bringing
back
to
State
Council
on,
depending
on
what
we
learn
over
the
next
month
or
two.
AF
But
it
is
a
significant
amount
of
work
that
has
happened
and
we've
we've
got
a
fair
amount
of
work,
going
forward,
just
to
study
that,
and
not
just
from
a
policy
perspective.
But
I've
already
heard
from
a
couple
of
council
members
who
are
seeing
the
the
bills
that
are
passing
and
hoping.
There
is
opportunity
to
pursued
for
some
of
those
Council
strategic
goals
and
we'll
be
looking
at
whether
that's
a
possibility
as
well
so
much
more
to
come
on
the
legislative
stuff.
AF
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
our
staff
who
have
worked
really
hard
tracking
issues
on
on
the
legislative
front
and
to
Mike
for
coordinating
on
staff
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
work
of
our
lobbying
team
that
had
a
had
a
really
good
session
representing
the
residents
and
businesses
and
visitors
in
Bloomington.
I.
Think
that
you
know
we
have,
we
have
a
lot
to
be
proud
of
in
terms
of
how
our
delegation
advocated
for
us
and
the
results
that
we've
seen
in
this
session.
A
X
I
B
AE
X
A
AE
I
B
I
A
No,
no
very
good,
and
we
will
move
to
our
final
item
of
the
evening
as
it
typically
is
item
5.3
is
our
city
council
policy
and
issue.
Update
first
item,
of
course,
is
our
recap
of
our
listening
session
and
the
listening
session.
We
did
not
have
anybody
stop
by
tonight
for
our
listening
session,
so
we
didn't
have
anybody.
We
didn't
have
a
listing
stashing.
Well,
we
did
have
a
listening
session.
We
didn't
have
anyone
stop
by
for
the
listing
session,
so
nothing
to
report
there
Mr
for
really
anything
from
City
manager's
standpoint.
Yes,.
AF
Sir,
thank
you
mayor,
I,
just
want
to
notify
the
council
that
we
had
a
late
breaking
travel
for
the
mayor
coming
up
on
May
31st,
June
1st.
We
didn't
have
the
details
of
the
costs
associated
with
it
to
put
on
the
agenda
tonight.
So
following
our
travel
policy
that
we
updated
related
to
council
travel
city
manager,
approves
the
travel
notifies
the
council,
and
then
we
will
bring
action
at
the
June
5th
meeting
to
ratify
the
travel,
the
purposes
to
attend
a
an
event
that
is
being
coordinated
by
the
state
department
and
also
is
so.
AF
A
Council
any
questions
on
that
very
good
anything
else:
Mr
roogie,
nope
all
right
before
I
turn
it
over
to
the
council.
The
one
thing
that
I
want
to
add.
We
all
had
a
busy
Saturday
I
know
we
all
did.
It
was
a
beautiful
Saturday,
but
between
the
Public
Works,
open
house,
the
Police,
Department
open
house
and
everything
else
going
on
in
your
private
lives
and
everything
else.
It
was
a
very
busy
Saturday.
A
One
thing
that
I
had
the
privilege
of
doing
was
being
in
attendance
at
the
St
Luke's
100th
anniversary
celebration
right
across
the
street
here
from
City
Hall,
and
it
was
just
it
was
a
wonderful
celebration
and
it's
hard
to
believe
that
there
was
a
church
founded
in
1923
when
this
was
known
as
oxboro,
not
Bloomington,
but
oxboro,
and
the
descendants
of
some
of
the
original
Seven
families
who
founded
that
church
are
still
in
Bloomington.
So
congratulations
to
St
Luke's
for
100
years,
and
thanks
much
for
the
invitation
to
be
part
of
it.
A
I
You
Mr
Mayor
at
the
risk
of
of
well
that's,
not
an
analogy
I'm
going
to
even
come
close
to
saying
I
apologize.
I
would
like
for
Council
to
consider
as
we
move
forward
here,
knowing
now
that
many
of
our
strategic
priorities,
assuming
obviously
voting
in
November,
will
be
covered.
Our
Public
Health
Building,
that's
desperately
in
need
of
an
upgrade
in
the
big
and
some
great
investment
in
natural
resources.
I
would
like
to
once
again
can
implore
this
body
to
consider
transferring
some
strategic
priorities
fund
to
help
our
animal
control
facility.
I
J
I
would
be
interested
in
hearing
more
from
staff
on
kind
of
what
the
options
could
be,
whether
it's
kind
of
like
yeah
option,
one
is
minimal
investment
to
improve
the
conditions,
an
option
two
is
you
know
putting
in
Windows
or
whatever
you
know
like
I'm,
absolutely
open
to
considering
those
options
from
City
staff
and
I
would
be
curious
too.
Just
you
know,
I,
don't
know
the
ins
and
outs
of
the
buildings,
but
you
know:
is
there
a
different
location?
That
would
be
an
option
too,
and
so.
B
C
Let
me
jump
in
on
that.
One
too
I
would
be
very
interested
in
us
having
that
that
conversation
and
also
I'd
like
to
add
to
an
option
of
maybe
it
makes
some
sense
for
us
to
partner
with
one
of
our
other
neighboring
communities
to
see.
If
we
can't,
you
know,
get
a
better
experience
for
our
animals.
You
know
we
we've
done
that
with
our
Public
Health.
C
You
know
we've
concentrated
on
that.
Maybe
it
makes
some
sense
for
us
to
let
another
Community
take
that
one
that
has
got
a
better
structure
and
set
up,
and
let
us
kind
of
move
that
on
so
that's
I'd,
be
very
interested
in
having
that
conversation.
So
I'm
glad
you
too
brought
that
forward
and
I
also
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
here,
we'll
consumer
Carter
and
councilman
dallasandro,
and
also
the
mayor
on
on
the
hard
work
that
you're
doing
with
the
Veterans
Memorial
piece.
C
So
I'm
really
excited
about
seeing
that
move
forward,
I'm
hoping
to
be
there
that
day
when
we
get
that
thing
up
and
in
front
here
mayor,
as
you
mentioned,
you
know
at
the
outset
of
the
meeting
and
there's
just
one
last
thing:
I
wanted
to
throw
out
is
an
idea.
I'm
not
really
looking
for
a
comment
necessarily
today,
but
you
know,
given
our
meeting
today
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about.
You
know
residential
zones
and
you
know
I'm
trying
to
be
more
hip
and
with
it.
C
As
my
wife
says,
if
you
say
that
you're
not
hipping
with
it,
I
was
watching
a
you
know,
a
show
about
Pittsburgh
and
in
Pittsburgh
they
literally
in
some
areas
of
the
city.
They'll
have
places
where
they'll
take
their
garages
and
turn
them
into
bars
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
across
the
city
of
Bloomington
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
at
all.
But
it
got
me
into
thinking
about
some
of
some
of
these
ideas
about
you
know.
C
There's
some
fellow
council
members
who
are
a
little
more
open
to
this
idea
of
airbnbs
and
I
kind
of
started
thinking.
Well,
maybe
there's
a
way
that
it
makes
some
sense
to
maybe
look
at
another
Zone
that
maybe
it
might
include
some
of
those
things
I
as
a
council
member
am
very
concerned
about
ADA
with
Airbnb
and
about
what
that
can
do
to
impact
residential
affordability,
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there,
because
I
think
we
need
to
have
those
conversations.
As
we
talk
about
I
know.
C
How
do
we,
you
know,
make
this
a
remarkable,
Community
yeah.
It's
worth
challenging
some
of
those
those
belief
systems
that
even
I
have
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
if
there's
a
way
to
get
a
compromise
and
make
some
things
work
make
some
exciting
things
happen
in
the
city.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
as
something
I'm
thinking
about
and
try
to
figure
out
how
to
be
more
hip
and
with
it.
J
I
Is
oh
No
Just
comment
if
I
may
comment
on
councilmember
lowen's
point
I?
If
if
that
was
a
question,
I
do
know
that,
just
because
I
did
the
looking
up
myself
that
the
short-term
rental
Airbnb
thing
is
one
of
the
2023
Planning
Commission
work
plan
items
that
we
might
be
kicking
out
of
here.
If
we're
going
to
try
to
do
this
other
stuff.
So
just
be
mindful
of
that.
I
A
Cancel
anything
else
well
to
get
to
four
I
will
say:
yeah.
Let's
take
a
look
at
the
the
animal
shelter
I
won't
commit
to
saying
we
should
build
the
tajma
animal
shelter
Hall,
but
I
I
think
we
could
at
least
look
at
options
and
figure
out
if
there
might
be
other
ways
to
to
do
that
again,
fitting
it
into
our
busy
staff
work
plan
and
our
tight
budget
constraints,
but
at
least
it's
at
least
worth
time
to
look
at
I
think
so.
A
A
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
adjourn,
no
further
Council
discussion
on
this.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
meow
motion
carries
7-0.
Thank
you
much
Council
for
your
discussion
this
evening,
thanks
again
to
the
staff
for
the
great
work
that
you've
done
on
a
lot
of
different
issues
and
and
thanks
to
the
the
members
of
the
community
who
put
in
a
lot
of
time,
I
know
on
an
important
issue
to
them
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
they
did.
So
thank
you
to
everyone
have
a
great
night.