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The City of Bloomington and the Housing and Redevelopment Authority hosted the 10th Home Improvement Fair on Saturday, February 25, 2012. Fairgoers attended how-to seminars, visited with home improvement exhibitors, asked questions and got ideas for upcoming remodeling projects.
A
B
B
Long
before
Sun
rooms
and
roofs
and
paver
patios
thousands
of
years
before
carpentry
people
were
painting
their
caves,
so
we've
been
around
for
a
long
time
and
we're
not
going
anywhere.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
today
is
basically
and
we're
going
to
stick
around
and
basically
we're
going
to
teach
everything
we
know
about
painting
and
to
the
point
where
you
don't
even
need
us,
so
we're
basically
giving
away
all
the
secrets.
B
Some
dictionaries
refer
to
painters
as
nonviolent
home
improvement
workers
which,
when
I
think
of
painters,
that's
exactly
what
I
think
of
because
most
painters
I
know
are
rather
passive.
So
that
makes
sense.
But
the
truth
is
it's
because
we
don't
destroy
anything.
All
we
do
is
make
things
beautiful
and
we
and
there's
instant
gratification
in
that.
So
that's
why
you
have
some
painters
that
are
absolute
geniuses,
brilliant
people
and
they
just
love
to
paint
because
you
get
to
see
what
you
do
every
day,
and
so
that's
what
I
really
like
about
it.
B
My
name
is
Eric
Moore,
Road
I'm,
the
owner
of
true
north
painting.
We
do
interior
exterior
residential
commercial
work,
I
started
painting
twelve
years
ago,
when
I
went
to
st.
John's.
We
did
in
the
summer,
most
painters
start
in
college
and
basically,
you
know,
being
a
rockstar
wasn't
working
out,
I'm,
not
good-looking
enough,
so
I
figured
I'll
be
a
painter,
so
I
really
really
enjoy
it.
So
that's
why
I
want
to
share
with
you
what
I've
learned
so
we're
going
to
cover
a
lot.
B
You
know
in
45
minutes
I
could
teach
you
how
to
do
walls,
ceilings,
trim,
I
mean
painting,
isn't
rocket.
Science
I
could
probably
teach
you
how
to
paint
a
Home
Depot
in
about
45
minutes
so
and
then
we're
going
to
leave
some
time
for
questions
throughout.
So
if
you
have
a
question,
feel
free
to
just
throw
it
out
there
and
we'll
try
to
cover
as
much
as
we
can
so
we're
going
to
cover
how
to
pick
out
interior
paint
we'll
talk
about.
B
Why
does
it
take
eight
coats
to
make
something
red
we'll
cover
out
and
how
do
you?
How
do
you
reduce
that
to
two
or
three
coats?
How
do
I
store
paint?
What
is
a
paint
booger,
which
is
actually
a
technical
term?
So
what
does
the
finish?
Look
that
why
does
the
finish
look
different
on
one
wall
versus
the
other,
and
how
do
you
get
that
consistency
on
an
interior?
So
we're
really
going
to
focus
on
interior?
B
But
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
basic
techniques
and
we're
going
to
cover
quite
a
bit,
but
but
this
isn't
rocket
science,
so
you
know
there
are
other
ways
to
do.
This.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of,
in
fact,
even
within
our
company,
we,
during
the
peak
of
the
season
we
have
45
painters
and
not
everyone.
Does
it
the
exact
same
so
these
are.
These
are
kind
of
the
way
I
was
I
was
taught
so
so,
let's
get
started.
B
So
basically,
what
you
want
to
do
is
make
sure
you
have
clothes
that
you
can
ruin,
because
even
the
best
painters
don't
usually
go
home
like
that.
They
start
like
that,
but
they
don't
end
like
that.
So,
let's
be
real,
make
sure
you're
not
wearing
your
Sunday's
best.
The
other
thing
you
want
to
do
is
make
sure
you
have
a
drop
cloth.
So
many
people
don't
use
a
drop
cloth
and
it's
unbelievable.
B
Now,
when
you're
doing
interior,
you
can't
use
a
straight
up,
canvas
drop
cloth
and
I
wouldn't
recommend
using
plastic.
I
would
use
what's
called
a
butyl
bu
Tyl
butyl
drop
cloth,
because
if
the
paint
spills
it's
going
to
stop
it's
not
going
to
go
through
and
paint
spills,
it's
just
the
way
it
is
I
mean
you,
you
back
up,
you're,
not
paying
attention
or
whatever
it
is,
or
the
dog
the
cat.
The
kid
knocks
it
over.
So
you
want
to
make
sure
when
you're
painting
interiors
that
you
don't
paint
the
floor
too.
B
To
do
a
good
job,
you
need
to
use
a
lot
of
paint,
so
don't
be
afraid
to
take
like
some
people
say:
well,
I,
don't
drip.
It's
like
well,
I,
don't
know,
I'm
a
professional
line,
I
drift,
because
I
want
to
use
as
much
paint
as
I
can
without
it
getting
sloppy.
So
use
tape
from
you
know,
for
goodness
sakes
use
tape
and
use
enough
of
it.
B
B
So
if
white
tape
is
fine
as
long
as
you
get
the
project
done
within
a
week
or
you
know
a
day
or
something
like
that,
if
you're
going
to
have
it
on
for
a
long
time,
then
you
want
to
use
like
a
blue
tape
but
I'm
going
to
teach
you
how
to
do
we're
going
to
get
you
back
to
white
tape.
So,
but
if
you
have
questions
like
that,
make
sure
you
discuss
that
with
a
knowledgeable
paint
store
operator,
because
they
can
kind
of
help
you,
with
with
what
products
to
use.
B
Okay,
so
the
next
thing
you
got
to
do
before
you
start
painting
is
prep
the
walls.
Okay,
usually
that
means
nail
pops
gouges
where
the
kids
had
fights
and
hit
something
you
got
to
use
your
putty
knife.
It's
really
simple!
You
see
your
gouge,
you
get
just
regular,
spackle,
simple
stuff
and
make
sure
when
you
open
up
the
can-
and
you
use
it
to
cover
it
right
away
because
it
dries
out
really
really
fast.
So
pretty
simple,
you
put
it
on
like
that.
B
You
have
to
make
that
decision,
because
if
you
hammer
that
baby
in
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
get
this
big
hole,
then
you
got
to
spackle
over
it.
Well,
every
single
time
you
paint
something
you
have
a
little
bit
just
like
this
wall.
You
have
a
little
bit
of
stipple
right
so
now,
you're,
basically
starting
over
and
now
you're
going
to
have
another
coat
of
paint
on
the
stippled
part
on
the
stuff.
That's
already
got
stipple,
and
then
you
have
your
new
area.
That's
completely
smooth!
B
Now,
you're
gonna
have
even
more
so
if
it's
small,
it
actually
looks
better
to
leave
the
nail
pop.
So
you
just
have
to
kind
of
decide
what
you
want
to
do
there
after
you
have
this
the
spackle
you
sand.
It
then
touch
it
up
real,
quick
with
your
paint,
so
you
have
a
little
bit
of
stipple
on
there.
So
it's
not
completely
smooth,
but
if
you
rece
pakil
your
whole
wall
in,
like
a
hundred
spots,
you're
going
to
see
it's
going
to
look
like
at
so
I'd
recommend
not
a
painted
wall
cheetah.
That
is
okay.
B
So
then
we've
got
our
nail.
Pops
fixed
any
questions
so
far
on
the
prep
part.
So
far.
Okay,
look!
You
can
either
well
interior-wise.
You
don't
need
to
use
primer
necessarily
because
all
paint
is
on
the
scale
of
primers
is
kind
of
primer.
You
know
so,
inter
you're,
not
quite
as
worried
about
adhesion.
Just
put
some.
B
Absolutely
what
I
would
recommend
is
using
the
paint
that
you're
going
to
use
so,
like,
let's
say,
you're,
getting
ready
to
paint
like
right
now.
Okay,
we
have
to
get
our
roller
out.
You
know
you
open
up
the
paint
bucket
for
the
first
time.
I
would
hit
all
those
spots
first,
cuz
they're
gonna
dry
in
like
10
minutes
anyway
at
least
you
have
a
little
bit
of
a
base
on
there.
B
Some
people
use
primer
personally
I
like
using
the
paint
that
I'm
going
to
use
because
it's
going
to
match
with
what
I'm
putting
on
good
question,
though
so,
then
you
got
to
choose
your
roller.
So
if
you
go
to
a
paint
store,
you'll
see,
there's
a
quarter,
there's
a
foam!
There's
a
quarter-inch!
There's
a
3/8
inch,
there's
a
half
inch,
there's
a
3/4,
then
there's
an
inch
and
then
there's
an
inch
and
a
quarter.
Then
there's
an
inch
and
a
half
for
interior
painting,
I
recommend
3/8
as
the
smallest.
B
That's
this
one
or
half
inch
or
3/4.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
experience,
because
when
you
have
more
you're
going
to
have
more
paint-
and
it's
going
to
be
harder
to
get
it
even
so,
I
would
say
for
most
dedicated
di
wires,
I
would
go
with
1/2
just
because
it's
kind
of
in
the
middle,
the
larger
the
more
paint
it's
gonna
hold.
But
it's
also
going
to
leave
bigger
stipple.
You
know
so
that
can
really
affect
you
know
the
way
the
wall
looks
and
if
you're
trying
to
cover
up
imperfections.
C
B
Painter
has
their
preference
it
personally
I
like
really
close
to
the
bottom,
but
not
the
worst.
I
want
something:
that's
going
to
work.
You
know,
that's
not
going
to
shed
and
then
I,
throw
it
away.
So
I
don't
buy
a
$15.00
roller
and
clean
it,
because
the
amount
of
time
it
takes
to
clean
it
I
could
buy
a
new
one.
You
know
so
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
way,
but
so
you
want
to
prep
your
roller.
That's
a
great
question
because
I
was
going
to
cover
this
and
I
forgot.
B
So
when
you,
when
you
get
your
new
fancy
roller
from
Home,
Depot,
Lowe's
sure
Williams,
don't
forget
about
her
shields.
You
take
your
tape
right
and
you
basically
roll
the
entire
thing
with
tape.
Okay,
get
it
stuck
on
there
really
good,
and
then
you
take
it
off
and
look
at
all
that
extra
fuzz
it's
going
to
come
off!
Not
a
whole
lot
came
off,
because
this
is
a
really
good
roller,
so
the
cheaper
rollers
are
going
to
cut
out.
B
C
B
B
B
So
what
you
want
to
do
is
one
wall
at
a
time,
because
you
want
all
your
paint
to
be
on
there
as
even
as
possible
at
one
time
to
dry
at
the
same
time,
at
as
close
to
the
same
frequency
as
possible,
so
they
kind
of
set
up
together
and
they
dry
together.
So
you
want
to
make
sure
you
do.
You
know,
let's
say
we're
going
to
do
this
wall
and
there's
not
one
open
spot
in
this
whole
place,
so
I
I'm
going
to
have
to
just
use
my
my
pretend
wall
here.
B
So
basically
you
get
your
brush
out.
Obviously
this
is
some
pretty
straightforward
stuff,
but
I
highly
recommend
keeping
your
case
because
brushes
we
don't
throw
away
by
a
good
brush,
because
that
makes
a
huge
difference.
You
don't
want
to
be
working
along
and
all
of
a
sudden
you
lose
a
bristle.
You
will
lose
bristles
even
on
the
best
brushes,
but
I
recommend
buying
a
really
good
brush
the
best.
B
Probably
ten
bucks
but
I
bought
it
on
my
account,
so
probably
I'm
not
afraid
to
spend
$15
on
a
brush
it
also.
The
the
price
of
the
brush
also
depends
on
how
big
it
is
too
so
like
when
we're
doing
exteriors.
You
know
it's
not
uncommon,
to
have
a
big
four
inch
brush
personally
I
like
angle,
some
people
like
half,
it's
all
what
you're
used
to
I
like
to
I'm
a
really
good
at
cutting.
B
So
basically,
right
I,
like
the
angled
sash,
but
I
would
buy
a
good
one.
Make
sure
you
save
your
your
box
here,
because
it
helps
keep
the
brush
and
when
you're
done
cleaning
it.
You
know
it's
kind
of
nice
to
keep
it
in
there.
So
I
personally,
I
like
doing
that.
So
basically,
what
you
want
to
do
is
do
the
whole.
B
You
want
to
do
all
your
cutting
and
we
don't
take
I
mean
what
I
would
do
is
go
at
a
pace,
so
you
don't
have
to
tape
your
your
edges
or
your
ceiling,
because
you'll
get
a
much
better
line
and
it'll
go
a
lot
faster
for
it,
because
you
can't
tape
on
popcorn,
it's
really
hard
to
tape
a
ceiling
and
to
tape
a
line
without
it
bleeding
which
I
bet
you
can
do
a
better
job
going
slow
with
a
brush.
Then
you
can
taping
and
letting
it
bleed.
B
C
B
I
would
do
the
whole
wall.
Yeah
I
would
go
from
edge
to
edge.
So
if
I'm
painting
this
this
room
I
would
go,
obviously
is
a
little
exaggerated,
but
I'd
started
me
I'm
a
left-to-right,
that's
all
I
read,
that's
all
I!
Think
so.
I
start
in
the
upper
right
corner.
I
go
on
the
top
the
cup
across
the
top
then
I
come
down.
Then
I
go
back
over
there
then
I
come
down.
Then
I
come
across
the
bottom
and
I
got
a
bad
rotator,
so
that
just
hurt
but
I'm
right-handed.
So
it's
I'm
screwed.
B
C
B
C
Yeah
creepy,
yes,.
B
Oh
I
highly
recommend
doing
the
whole
thing
at
once,
but
you
you
know
you
want
it.
That's
why
you
stick
to
one
wall.
You
know
you
do
your
whole
wall
because
I'm
going
to
teach
you
how
to
roll
really
fast.
So,
basically,
when
you're
using
your
your
roller,
this
is
the
best
thing
you
can
do
is
buy
an
extension
for
it
right
because,
especially
somebody
who's,
you
know
not
six
feet
tall
or
not.
Six,
four
or
whatever
I
mean
you
know
some.
My
guys
don't
use
a
ladder
ever
so.
B
But
regardless,
if
you
have
you
know
extension
roller,
you
pretty
much,
don't
have
to
use
a
ladder
anymore
for
an
interior
cuz,
not
you
know,
even
a
14-foot,
you
start
getting
good
I
mean
you
can
really
move
along
alright,
so
here's
this
is
how
I
was
taught,
and
this
is
how
I
teach
it,
and
this
is
what
I
think
works.
The
best
yeah
sure.
B
Enough,
where
I
can
get
the
roller
to
it,
so
about
an
inch
in
about
two
inches,
you
don't
really
have
to
worry.
It's
kind
of,
like
you
just
got
to
make
sure
that
you
can
get.
You
can
cover
the
gap
with
your
roller
and
also
that
would
also
make
a
difference
on.
You
know
how
you
know,
because
if
you
got
a
bigger
diameter
roller
that
can
affect
it
too.
Just
that
just
enough-
and
you
also
don't
want
to
you
know
you
want
to
make
sure
like.
B
Let's
say
you
put
too
much
paint
on
you
want
to
make
sure
you
brush
it
out,
because
you
don't
want
a
big
gap
up
there,
because
that's
good,
because
this
is
going
to
put
it
on
pretty
thin.
You
want
to
make
sure
it's
as
consistent
as
possible.
So
again,
you've
got
a
drop
cloth.
You
don't
have
to
worry
about
getting
paint
all
over
watch
your
feet,
but
when
I'm
doing
interiors,
I
use
a
tray
like
this
and
a
liner
and
then
I
throw
away
the
liner
I.
Don't
try
to
save
the
liner
I.
B
Try
to
save
this
and
or
some
people
use
a
bucket
I
use
a
bucket
outside
I,
never
use
a
tray
outside.
So
right
you
get
it
nice
and
even
then,
what
I
do
you
can
start
with
an
M
but
I
like
a
W,
you
go
get
down
like
a
W
like
this
okay
up
to
the
middle
down,
and
then
you
have
your
W
right.
Okay,
then
I
do
an
M,
so
I
start
at
the
bottom
left
I
go
up
to
the
middle
yeah.
B
Okay
I
got
that
right,
okay
down
like
an
M
and
then
right
so
I,
basically
I'm
filling
in
you
know
my
w.
Okay,
then
I
go
back
to
the
left.
I
always
finish.
One
way
right
so
now,
I've
got
enough
paint
on
there.
So
I
might
put
a
little
more
on
here,
but
I've
got
enough
paint
where
I
don't
have
to
go
up
and
down
anymore.
Now,
I
go
down
in
one
smooth
motion.
That's
why
I
use
an
extension,
so
I
don't
have
to
go
up
here.
B
Get
down
off
the
ladder
come
down
because
I
want
it
smooth
right,
so
I'm
going
to
go
all
the
way
down
in
one
motion:
if
I
need
more
paint,
I
will
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
mean
you
got
to
put
enough
paint
on
there,
but
then
I
take
this
spot
and
then
I
go
halfway
over
I.
Do
the
same
thing
then
I
go
halfway
over.
B
B
They're
going
to
help
as
you,
you
know,
you're
standing
over
here
and
you
see
that
big
wall
you're
not
going
to
see
all
the
you
know,
you're
not
going.
You
know
how.
Sometimes
you
go
to
a
house,
it's
not
painted
as
well
and
you're
like
holy
crap.
It
looks
terrible,
you
know
and
usually
that's
why,
because
it's
not
smooth
it's
not
even
so.
You
basically
do.
You
know
this
much
at
a
time
right
floor
to
ceiling,
yep
floor
to
ceiling.
D
B
That's
a
great
question:
yeah
yeah,
you
could
well,
you
know,
I'm
going
to
kind
of
make
this
up,
but,
logically
speaking,
perhaps
if
you're
going
only
up
and
down
only
vertical
that
might
affect
you
know,
runs
and
streaks
it
in
a
way,
it's
kind
of
like
how
I
was
taught
and
have
no
reason
to
do
it.
Other
way.
Perhaps
you
know
you've
got
because
everything
is
rigged.
You
know
driven
by
stipple
right,
it's
a
good
way
to
get
a
lot
of
paint
on,
and
so
now
you
gots
typical.
B
In
this
way
you
get
well
when
you
do
ceilings,
you
go
this
way,
and
this
way
so
you
don't
see
runs
so
that
could
be
a
part
of
it.
But
to
be
completely
honest,
it
was
how
it
was
taught
and
it
works
really.
Well,
you
probably
you
probably
could
do
it
all
vertical
up
and
down.
The
main
thing
is
how
you
finish:
getting
the
paint
on
probably
isn't
as
important
as
how
you
finish
it
and
it's
nice,
and
even
right,
instead
of
going
up
and
then
down
now
you
got
more
paint
in
the
middle,
so.
B
C
B
B
Well,
I
wouldn't
say
it's
even
a
you
know:
when
you've
got
the
M
and
the
W,
it
still
isn't
fully
coated
it
doesn't
yet
you
still
have
gaps,
but
there's
enough
pain
on
the
wall.
Now,
where
and
you'll
get
the
hang
of
it,
you
know
once
you
see
once
you
do
it
a
few
times,
yeah
I
mean
I,
probably
did
it
on
four
walls
and
then
I
was
automatically
an
expert
painter.
So
I
mean
it's
like
it.
It's
once
you
do
it
a
couple
times.
B
It's
like
oh
yeah,
it
works
and
it
goes
fast
because,
like
I
mean
I,
essentially
just
painted
that
you
know,
I
could
have
probably
painted
this
whole
wall.
In
that
amount
of
time
we
were
talking
because
you're
really
moving
I
mean
you're
like
boom
boom
right
I
mean
just
when
you
use
a
lot
of
paint.
You
want
to
use
enough
paint,
then
it
doesn't
scream.
That's
another
thing
too,
is
once
you're
once
you
stop
using
enough
paint,
you'll
kind
of
hear
you
go,
you
don't
want
that.
D
B
B
But
you
know
once
you
start
doing
it
the
same
way
all
the
time
you
get
a
really
good
system
going
and
it's
okay
to
take
breaks
just
make
sure
you
cover
your
paint,
that's
what
prevents
paint
bugger's
technical
term
for
when
you
see
little
spots
of
paint,
which
is
basically
just
micro,
small
pieces
of
paint
that
drives
along
the
can,
because
you
didn't
shut
the
can
right
away
or
you
leave
the
roller
hanging
out
here.
While
you
go
grab
the
phone
good
way
to
keep
full,
you
know
paint
off
your
phone.
B
B
But
the
point
is:
is
you
want
to
do
as
much
as
you
can,
while
you're
painting,
and
that
way
it
doesn't
take
eight
weeks
to
do
a
room
an
hour
or
you
know,
or
a
day
right
you
typically
speaking,
one
painter
could
paint
three
rooms.
Two
coats
in
one
day,
I've
seen
an
entire
town
home,
get
painted
by
one
painter
in
a
day
a
long
day
at
12
hour
day,
I
mean
when
you
do
it
every
day
it
goes
fast
and
once
you
follow
a
system,
it
goes
fast.
B
Classic
peg
woodwork,
yep
plastic
bag
would
work
yeah,
just
something
to
seal
the
air
in
because
that's
just
like
a
paint
can,
when
a
paint
can
seal
that
there's
no
air
coming
in
and
out.
But
you
want
to.
You
want
to
try
to
not
leave
anything
in
for
a
couple
hours
because
it'll
dry
and
then
you
get
little
tiny
boogers
on
the
bottom.
Then
the
boogers
get
on
the
wall
and
then
your
wall
doesn't
then
your
walls
full
of
boogers,
the
other
kind,
a.
C
A
B
Personally,
I
wouldn't
well
I
would
never
put
in
the
freezer,
because
paint
doesn't
work
very
well
once
it's
frozen.
That's
why
you
don't
leave
your
paint
in
the
garage
because
it'll
freeze
it
just
changes
the
you
know
the
makeup
of
the
paint
I
would
clean
first,
because
I
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
a
brush
I
clean
out
my
brushes
I,
don't
throw
them
away.
So
after
the
end
of
the
day.
Well,
there's
a
couple
things
you
can
do.
B
First
of
all,
you
want
to
go
one
wall
at
a
time,
so,
even
if
it
does
take
a
couple
days,
at
least
you
get
a
nice
finish
all
right,
you
don't
want
to
do
your
whole
house
and
cut
it.
Did
you
see
that
all
the
I
see
that
all
the
time
the
whole
house
is
cut
and
you're
like
all
I
got
to
do
is
go
back
and
roll
it
and
I'm
like
yeah?
You
know,
you
know
it's
not
gonna,
look
as
good,
so.
B
B
And
that
it
all
depends
on
your
speed
too,
because
I
do
have
some
painters,
it
will
cut
the
whole
room.
You
know,
because
they're
fast
I
mean
they'll.
Just
look
at
the
whole
room
in
you
know,
30
minutes
so
kind
of
depends
on
on
kind
of
how
quickly
it.
Basically,
how
quickly
can
you
get
to
that
wall
and
paint
dries
in
30
minutes
to
the
touch
so
it
you
know,
it
happens.
Pretty
fast,
so
also
have
a
have
a
rag
on
you,
because
you
never
know
why
you'll
need
it,
but
you'll
need
it
eventually.
B
So,
okay,
so
where
were
we
good
questions?
Okay,
we
covered
that
covered
that
applying
paint
to
the
wall,
so
how
to
pick
out
paint
should
we
go
there?
Would
that
be
I?
Think
that's
where
a
lot
of
people
get
hung
up
is
how
do
I
pick
the
right
paint
who
makes
the
best
paint
everything?
Oh
yes,
yes,
I
will
cover
that.
Oh
yes,
back
to
your
question,
I'm!
Sorry!
B
Yes,
if
you,
what
I
do,
is
I
clean
on
a
brush
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
because
my
brush
is
never
really,
you
know
dried
out.
Very
you
know
a
lot.
It's
pretty
clean,
easy
to
clean
when
you're,
when
you're
cleaning
out
in
the
basement
sink.
What
I
do
is
I
basically
bend
the
brush,
wash
it
out
and
then
I
turn
it
over
and
bend
it.
That
seems
to
get
the
paint
out
the
fastest
and
I
just
make
sure
it's
as
I
mean.
Sometimes
it
takes
ten
minutes
to
clean
out
a
brush.
B
You
can
use
a
wire
brush.
You
know
always
go
one
way,
don't
go
like
this,
because
then
that
ruins
your
brush
I
never
put
paint
up
into
I,
never
want
it's
kind
of
fun
to
you
know,
turn
your
paint
brush
upside
down,
hit
the
water
into
it.
You
see
all
the
paint
coming
out.
You
think
it's
being
clean,
but
the
reality
is.
If
paint
dries
up
in
here.
B
It's
not
really
that
big
of
a
deal
you
don't
need
to
get
the
paint
out
of
here,
because
in
a
way
I
guess
it
could
be
glue
to
keep
everything
together,
but
I
just
make
sure
that
what
really
matters
is
clean
and
I
make
sure
that
that
happens.
So
if
it's
going
to
be,
you
know
four
hours
before
I
get
back
I'll
actually
clean.
My
brush
wrap
it
in
saran
wrap.
Those
saran
wrap
is,
is
the
best
best
way
no
clean
brush.
Once
it's
clean,
it's
clean,
there's,
no
paint
on
it.
B
C
B
Right
yeah:
well,
if
I'm
using
latex,
which
the
majority
people
would
be
using
latex
in
their
house,
I
use
yeah
water,
no
yeah,
oh
and
the
other
thing
too
is
you
can
also
just
let's
say,
you're
doing
different
colors
right,
your
you
don't
want
to
clean
up
now,
because
you
got
the
group
going.
The
good
music
is
playing
on
the
radio.
You
finished,
you
wrote
your
Blue
Room,
then
you
go
into
your
yellow
room,
just
throw
it
in
water,
just
go
and
let
it
soak
you
know
for
30
minutes,
that'll
help.
B
B
B
B
This
is
a
China
bristle,
bristle
I
believe
I,
honestly
I
just
grabbed
it
off
the
shelf.
You
know
I
wasn't
paying
attention
to
see
what
is
it
made
of
I
think
yeah.
This
is
actually
an
oil
brush.
It's
probably
yeah
China
bristle
China
bristle
for
oil
I
never
use
this
for
latex
I
mean
it
usually
tells
you
right
on
the
you
know.
B
You
know
if
you,
if
you
can
really
handle
a
lot
of
paint,
then
you
go
with
the
bigger
brush.
So
good
question,
though
yeah
you
want
to
make
sure
you're
buying
the
brush
for
what
you're,
using,
because
this
that
you'll
never
get
latex
out
of
this
brush.
It
will
dry
so
fast.
It
just
doesn't
because
it's
soaking
it
in
it's
soaking
in
the
latex.
It's
really
counter
counterproductive
for
you
to
be
using
a
oil
brush
for
a
latex
product.
Make
sure
you
stir
it.
B
If
you
buy
your
paint
today,
it's
probably
good
for
a
few
days
without
stirring
it
really
really
shake
it
up
pretty
good,
but
you
know
if
it
goes
out
more
in
a
few
days
they
say
a
week,
but
a
few
days
I
like
to
stir
it
I
mean,
what's
the
harm,
you
know
that
these
are
free
and
then
after
you're
done
using
them
and
you
can
write
broccoli
or
carrots
or
whatever
just
put
them
in
your
garden
and
really
that's
where
I
get.
These
I
got
a
whole
box
of
them
at
home.
B
No,
we
don't
just
dump
it
because
there
will
be
boogers
and
we,
the
less
boogers
the
better.
So
basically
you
pour
it
into
here
before
you
pour
it
back
into
the
can,
because
this
is
kind
of
like
this
is
this
is
the
home.
This
is
the
paint's
home
when
you
put
paint
back
it
first
of
all,
you're
protecting.
You
know
the
paint
that's
in
there,
so
it
stays
nice
and
then
oh,
these
things
too.
B
You
know
they
give
them
out
at
the
paint
store
they
should
you
know
it's
just
handy,
because
if
you
use,
if
you
use
like
a
screwdriver,
sometimes
it
can
kind
of
mess
up
the
way
it
seals
at
the
bottom.
So
you
kind
of
want
to
keep
this
part
nice
and
clean,
but
essentially
you've
got.
You
know
you
pour
the
paint
in
here
and
you
find
a
way
to
get
it
in
there
and
you
get
to
keep
the
crap
behind
and
you'll.
Be
amazed.
B
B
Well,
eventually,
I
mean
they're
like
a
buck.
I
think
so
like
well,
I,
guess
what
you
could
do
just
make
sure
you
remember
which
side
is
in
and
out,
because
once
it
gets
paint
you
can
kind
of
you
know
you
just
don't
want
to
go
inside
out.
You
could
I
suppose
yeah,
you
know
what
the
guys
do
is
they'll,
just
rinse
it
out
really
really
good
as
good
as
I
can,
but
they're
still
going
to
be
stuff
junk
inside,
and
then
you
just
basically
you
can
use
these
for
a
while.
B
You
know
until
they're
completely
plugged.
You
know
as
long
as
it's
usable,
but
at
some
point
you
just
throw
it
away.
It's
okay
should
let
it
go
any
type
of
string.
Yeah,
there's,
there's
the
I
use
these,
because
these
are
cheap.
You
know
they
and
they
do
the
job.
You
can
buy
the
really
fancy
ones
that
are
kind
of
like
a
sight.
You
know
like
a
they've
got.
You
know,
they're
they're
plastic,
but
you
know
I
can
get
same
job
done
with
this.
So.
B
So
how
do
you
pick
out
paint
who
has
the
best
paint?
Well,
it
depends
on
who's
selling
it
her
shields,
Sherman
Williams,
Home,
Depot,
Bear
lows.
They
all
make
really
good
paint.
It
all
depends
on
how
much
you
want
to
pay
for
that
paint
so,
and
every
there's
all
sorts
of
levels
and
the
most
expensive
paint
isn't
necessarily
the
best
paint,
because
there
are
two
factors
in
how
expensive
the
the
paint
is.
What's
what's
in
it?
Basically
is
it
high
quality
stuff?
B
B
So
to
speak,
so
so
that's
why
people
use
satin
or
semi-gloss
on
their
trim
or
on
their
or
in
their
kitchens
or
their
bathrooms.
Another
factor
is,
you
know,
durability
for
washing
as
you
go
up
and
Sheen
it
becomes
more
washable
flat
paint.
Let's
say
you
have
the
highest
quality
flat
paint
versus
a
low
quality
flat
paint.
Don't
plan
on
cleaning
the
flat
paint
in
the
low
quality.
In
fact,
I
would
say,
like
a
high
quality
flat
paint
would
be
more
durable
than
an
eggshell
low
quality
paint.
B
So
you
kind
of
have
to
decide
what
and
the
nice
thing
about
flat
paint
is
that
you
could
touch
it
up
really
easily
and
if
it's
flat
it
doesn't
reflect
sunlight
or
light
it
all.
So
you
can
you're
going
to
see
less
imperfections.
So
if
you
got
a
satin
finish
well,
I
mean
we
recommend
for
interiors.
Unless
you've
got
kids
run
around
or
pets
or
all
sorts
of
animals
that
one
way
or
the
other
I
guess.
B
You
know
touching
the
walls
that
we
recommend
going
with
flat
because
it's
going
to
look
the
best
and
you
step
up
from
there.
But
you
definitely
don't
want
to
go
semi-gloss,
because
my
glass
is
going
to
really
affect
the
way
it
looks
unless
you're
doing
a
kitchen
or
a
bathroom,
because
there's
a
lot
of
water.
So.
B
So
why
why
does
it
take
eight
coats
or
six
coats
to
do
red
or
really
really
dark
blue
in
paint?
There's
additives
there's
the
solvent,
which
is
for
lack
of
better
words,
oil
or
latex
or
waterborne.
There's
all
sorts
of
different
types
and
paint
is
quite
complicated,
but
we
don't
have
time
to
cover
that,
so
the
solvent,
whether
it's
latex
or
whether
it's
oil,
then
the
resin
and
then
the
pigment.
B
The
resin
determines
the
quality
level
of
the
paint
higher
quality
materials,
better
paint,
the
the
pigment
determines
the
color.
That's
all
you
can
have
literally
thousands
of
colors
for
the
same
three
bases
of
paint.
So
when
you
have
deep
colors
like
dark,
blue
and
red,
you
need
more
pigment
right.
Okay,
well,
pigment
doesn't
actually
make
a
difference
in
making
something
cover.
You
know
the
the
pigment
doesn't
really
stick
to
the
wall.
It
needs
the
resin.
B
So
if
you've
got
a
pink,
can
it
has
very
little
tint
and
has
a
lot
of
the
good
stuff
it's
going
to
cover
really
really
well.
So
if
you've
got
a
lot
of
red,
you
basically
have
kind
of
weak
paint
for
lack
of
better
words.
Now
in
the
higher
quality
paint,
they're
able
to
use
less
resin,
but
more
and
more
pigment,
but
still
get
higher
performance,
but
what
I
would
highly
recommend
doing
is
personally
I
like
the
smaller
stores,
where
you
know
they
got.
B
You
know
it's
not
just
somebody
who
knows
how
to
sell
the
paint
or
knows
how
to
somebody
how
to
mix
it,
but
they
know
how
to
help
you
buy.
The
paint
and
I
can
also
help
too,
because
I
mean
it's.
We
realized
that
not
everybody
hires
a
painter
when
they
want
to
paint
their
house,
and
everyone
loves
to
be
an
expert
at
something
so
I
love
to
be
an
expert.
If
you
have
any
questions,
just
give
me
a
call
or
shoot
me,
an
email
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
help
you
someday.
B
If
you
want
a
higher
painter,
I'd
love
to
be
that
too,
but
but
for
the
meantime,
I'd
love
to
help
you
out
in
any
way
I
can
I.
Would
you
kind
of
need
to
ask
so
right
the
most
like
that?
What
what
you
want
for
interior
paint
is
that
buttery
finish
is
what
it's
called
so
I'll
take
sure
Williams,
for
example,
the
cashmere
line
is
the
best
for
a
buttery
finish:
it's
not
the
most
expensive,
it's
durable,
but
not
the
most
durable
and
in
that
line
the
duration
is
the
highest
quality.
B
It's
really
the
most
durable
it's
about
ten
dollars
more
per
gallon,
but
it
actually
doesn't
have
the
nicest
finish
because
you
kind
of
decide.
Why
are
you
painting
and
what's
important
to
you?
It's
a
kid's
room.
It's
a
bathroom
duration
is
pretty
important
or
platinum
ceramics.
So
you
know
at
her
shields
or
when
somebody
says
there's
primer
in
the
paint
there's
primer
in
every
paint.
So
this
primer
paint
one
is
kind
of
kind
of
marketing.
Actually
it's
all
marketing,
because
in
interior
paint
adhesion
isn't
the
issue.
B
If
you
want
to
buy
paint
on
my
account
I'm,
not
even
hundred
percent
sure,
if
it's
legal
for
me
to
tell
you,
but
you
can
go
to
her
shields
or
Shore
Williams
and
tell
them
you're
my
customer,
because
you
guys
are
all
my
customer
now
and
say:
I'm
gonna
buy
the
paint
I
need
to
get
Eric's
discount
or
you
know
true
noir
take
my
card
and
you
can
get
my
paint
you'll
have
to
pay
for.
You
can't
charge
to
my
account,
but
don't
try
it,
but
we
catch
that.
B
Pretty
quick
but
I
mean
we've
got
you
know.
We've
got
a
lot
of
paint
being
purchased
every
single
day
that
you
know
just
go
ahead
and
tell
them
you're
my
customer
and
you
need
to
get
my
paint
and
it
actually
helps
us.
It
means
it's,
it's
no
bother
for
us
and
it
helps
us
because
the
more
paint
that's
bought
through
our
account,
the
cheaper.
It
is
for
you
next
year
right
so
because
we're
buying
we're
higher
volume,
more
people
are
connected
to
tune
our
painting.
B
So
it's
a
tip
I'm,
pretty
sure
it's
legal
I,
wouldn't
if
I
knew
it
wasn't,
I
wouldn't
tell
you
but
I
mean
that's
an
plus.
They
want
you
to
buy
the
paint.
I
mean
they
want
you
to
be
a
happy
customer
to
keep
going
back
and
going
back,
but
usually,
if
you're
using
a
contractor's
discount,
you
get
more
paint
for
the
buck.
You
know
so
you
could
spend
30
bucks
but
get
a
$50
paint.
You
can
spend
20
bucks
and
get
the
$30
paint.
You
know
I
mean
when
we
do
ceilings.
B
We
use
the
cheapest
paint
possible
because
it's
dead
flat,
it
you
know,
and
then
they
say.
Oh,
you
need
a
drywall
primer.
You
don't
need
a
drywall
primer
that
just
helps
the
paint
company
make
more
money.
You
just
use
paint
because
in
the
interior
you
just
you'll.
Let's
say
you
got
fresh
drywall.
You
just
do
a
coat
of
the
paint
and
then
you
do
your
to
finish.
Coats
good
thing,
I
thought
of
that.
B
Okay,
when
you're
doing
interiors,
you
always
do
two
coats
flat
out,
no
matter
what,
if
you're
going
white
on
white
blue
on
blue,
same
color
or
the
same
color,
because
in
interior
the
surface
is
flat,
so
you
get
in
the
stipple.
Remember
we
talked
about
the
stipple
with
the
roller.
The
stipple
drives
the
how
it
looks
so
to
get
that
even
stipple.
B
You
want
to
use
two
coats,
no
matter
what
and
because
besides
I
told
you
how
to
do
it
so
fast
you'll
be
so
happy
that
you
haven't
so
much
fun
doing,
painting
and
be
like
you
know:
two
coats
I'm
gonna
go
for
the
third
coat,
maybe
even
four
so
back
to
the
red,
no
matter
what
Reds,
tough
or
dark
blue,
because
you
got
a
lot
of
pigment
so
the
way
to
get.
Let's
say
you
got
this
white
room.
B
If
you
try
to
put
the
red
paint
on
the
yellow
that
yellow
is
going
to
bleed
through
for
five
coats,
I
can
almost
guarantee
it.
So
what
you
do
is
at
that
point
you
go
at
either
a
gray
primer
or
a
gray
paint,
because
remember
grey
paint
is
great
primer
for
insert
it
for
all
practical
purposes
you
want
to
use.
You
want
to
set
it
back
to
gray,
because
gray.
B
B
I'll
tell
you
and
I
won't
say
who,
but
some
companies
have
really
high-end
paint,
but
when
it
comes
to
trying
to
do
a
red,
they're
terrible,
so
that's
where
I
could
probably
help
you
out
if
you're
going
to
go
red
I'm
in
a
stereo
to
one
company,
and
if
you
want
to
do
this,
then
I
would
steer
you
to
another
company,
because
we
know
you
know
that
some
companies
make
really
good
enamel.
Some
companies
make
really
good.
B
D
B
B
I'm
going
to
answer
this
is
the
best
I
can
and
as
PC
as
I
can
I've
used
I
view
this
bear
twice
in
10
years,
so
I
don't
know
a
whole
lot
about
bear.
Ok,
so
there's
other
paints
that
I
like
at
Home,
Depot
and
Lowe's.
Better
I,
like
Glidden
glidden's
owned
by
ICICI,
is
actually
the
largest
painting
company
in
the
world.
I.
Don't
use
a
lot
of
it
because
I
because
I
like
having
that
really
close
relationship
with
a
small
retail
store,
I
have
nothing
I
buy
from
Home,
Depot
and
Lowe's
all
the
time.
B
I
just
don't
buy
my
paint
there,
because
I
can't
get
I
can't
get
100
gallons
in
two
hours.
You
know
and
I
can't
get
you
know
they
can't
really
serve.
My
needs
very
well
so
I,
but
a
lot
of
my
customers
will
get
their
colors
there
and
I'll
just
take
it
to
where
I
know.
I
can
get
the
paint
that
they
need
at
the
right
store.
So
I
typically
go
back
and
forth
from
Cheryl
Williams
in
Hirschfeld
to
get
what
I
need
so
I,
but
that
next
yeah
I
mean
if
you're
looking
for
durability.
B
The
answer
is,
yes,
there's
usually
those
high-end
paints
with
the
primer
in
first
of
all
the
primer
in
it.
Just
you
can
let
that
phrase
go
out
the
window
because
they
all
have
primer
in
it.
They've
been
doing
it
for
years.
It's
just
a
way
to
help
sell
paint,
but
the
higher-end
paints
have
better
resin,
less
resin,
a
pigment
ratio.
B
You
know
and
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
promote
one
supplier
over
the
other.
So
if
you
have
a
specific
question,
just
shoot
me,
an
e-mail
I'll
tell
you
where
to
go
yeah
because
some
are
better
than
others.
So
you
know
it's
all
equal,
but
Herschel's
has
great
paint.
They
have
bad
paint.
Sure
ways
has
great
paint
in
a
bad
paint.
It
just
depends
on
what
you're,
using.
B
What's
the
difference
between
exterior
and
interior
exterior,
you
can
usually
do
read
in
one
or
two
coats,
because
it's
a
really
thick
paint.
The
reason
why
I
don't
typically
recommend
exterior
for
an
interior
there's
a
lot
of
mill
decides
and
a
lot
of
stuff
additives
in
the
paint
that
you
don't
necessarily
want.
You
know
how
we
try
to
get
low
vo
scene
a
days
because
in
California
gives
people
cancer
I
mean.
Actually
it
meant
to
kind
of
say
that
well
I'm
trying
to
be
PC,
but
it's
well
know
it
is
an
important
thing
in
paint.
B
You
got
to
use
the
best
paint
for
the
process
and
sometimes
you
got
to
use
you
know
if
you
want
your
paint.
My
job
is
to
make
paint,
stick
and
I'll
use
the
best
product
I
need
in
an
interior
setting.
You
can
use
low
and
novio
C
products
and
they
will
work
just
as
well
so
interior.
It's
actually.
We
try
to
use
as
low
VOCs
as
possible.
However,
why
did
I
bring
that
up?
I
know
there
is
a
different
reason.
B
The
fact
the
fact
that
something
is
know
vo
C
is
pretty
hard
to
get
to
because
the
pigments
full
of
you'll
see
so
it's
like.
You
know
you
got
this
beautiful
paint,
then
you
add
a
whole
bunch
of
tint
to
it,
except
for
Benjamin.
Moore
they've
got
no
vo
C
toners,
so
we
covered
latex.
We
covered
oil
o
volatile
organic
compounds.
Basically
it's
a
pollutant.
It's
you
know.
You
run
your
car
for
20
seconds.
You've
polluted
the
earth
way
more
than
you
will
ever
in
your
life
painting.
So
in
perspective.
B
B
B
So
use
our
account
if
you
want
to
let
us
know
how
we
can
help,
we
really
enjoy
it
and
we
hope
you
do
too
because
I
mean
painting
is
like
I
said
you
know,
Rockstar
wasn't
really
working
out,
figured
that
out
about
12
stumbled
on
painting
I,
just
really
like
seeing
that
instant
gratification.
You
take
something
you
make
it
really
nice
pretty
quick
right.
Does
anybody
have
any
last-minute
questions
or
anything
that
we
haven't
covered
yeah.
D
B
Yep
I'm
gonna
yeah
great
question:
I
was
supposed
to
cover
and
I
forgot,
so
popcorn
ceilings,
the
big
craze
is
getting
rid
of
them
because
HGTV
tells
you
you
cannot
sell
your
house
without
with
popcorn
ceilings,
which
is
absurd,
because
you
spent
a
couple
grand
getting
rid
of
your
popcorn
ceiling.
A
$200,000
house
like,
what's
you
know
like
people,
they
walk
into
the
hospital
like
popcorn
ceilings,
can't
get
this
house.
It's
like
what
like?
B
How
about
you,
offer
them
about
eighty
thousand
dollars
less
for
the
house
and
remove
the
popcorn
for
about
a
thousand
bucks
okay.
So
how
do
you
paint
popcorn
ceilings
if
you
need
to
paint
them
like
my
house?
I
got
popcorn
sealians,
I,
hate
them,
but
I'm
not
gonna
change
it
so
I'm
from
North,
Dakota,
I'm,
frugal
I'm,
not
gonna
change,
my
house
just
because
somebody
else
tells
me
I
need
to,
but
if
I
ever
did
I
would
use
my
company.
B
Do
it
so
cuz,
my
wife,
she
does
all
the
painting
in
my
house
for
the
walls,
ceilings
I'll,
hire
that
out.
I
know
people
so,
okay.
So
when
you're
painting
popcorn
the
problem
with
it
is
if
you're
using
because
popcorn
is
basically
mud,
water
and
co2,
so
as
soon
as
there
might
be
some
more
technical
terms
for
that,
but
it's
basically
air
and
water
and
mud.
So
if
you
put
water
to
it,
it
falls
apart
right.
If
you
have
a
water
damage
from
the
ceiling,
it
kind
of
gets
yucky
right.
B
Well,
the
same
thing
happens
with
paint.
If
you
are
rolling
the
paint
into
the
popcorn,
it
basically
activates
the
the
dehydrated
popcorn
texture,
so
it
comes
off
really
really
easily.
So,
if
you're
going
to
paint
your
popcorn
ceilings,
you
really
need
to
spray
it.
And
if
you
really
need
to
spray
your
popcorn
ceilings,
you
should
really
consider
hiring
a
professional,
because
it's
not
going
to
usually
turn
out
very
good
unless
you
spray
every
day,
just
like
ladders.
Ladders
are
really
really
really
really
really
safe
safer
than
scaffolding.
B
If
you
do
it
every
day,
so
now
the
big
thing
now
is
removing
popcorn.
So
this
is
like
shameful
promotion,
but
typically
we
can.
We
can
remove
a
popcorn
ceiling
and
put
knock
down,
which
is
this
product
right
here
and
paint
it
for
like
300
bucks.
Why?
Because
we
do
it
every
day,
it's
really
easy
with
plastic,
the
room
we
remove
the
popcorn
and
the
easy
way
to
do.
That
is
the
hard
way
elbow
grease.
You
just
remove
it.
B
You
just
roll
up
the
sleeves
and
the
popcorn
down,
and
then
you
put
your
knockdown
up
or
you
can
go
flat.
It's
a
little
easier
to
go
popcorn
because
you
are
knocked
down
because
well
for
one.
This
is
really
architectural
II.
What
people
want
nowadays
I
guess
for
now,
but
usually
there's
a
little
bit
of
skin
coding
involved.
B
If
the
popcorn
once
the
popcorns
been
painted,
it
becomes
significantly
more
difficult
to
get
rid
of
it
later
because
you're
sealing
it
in
if
you're
going
to
roll
it,
you
want
to
roll
it
roll
it
with
oil
and
a
mask,
and
then
it
will.
Then
you
can
roll
it
and
it
will
seal.
But
it's
just
you
know,
I
mean
painted.
We
can
paint
a
12
by
12
rooms
like
125
bucks.
B
If
we're
doing
you
know
the
more,
we
do
the
cheaper
gets
but
or
hire
somebody
else,
I
mean
I'm,
not
trying
to
say
we're
the
only
painting
company
because
there's
thousands
of
them
we've
been
around
since
the
caveman
days.
So
does
that
answer
your
question?
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
Wow
I
even
threw
in
shameless
promotion
in
there
and
I
yeah.
D
B
Depends
on
who
did
your
popcorn?
You
know
if
there
is
a
straight
edge
to
be
had,
then
you
just
follow
the
edge,
but
if
the
pop
brush,
we
only
use
a
brush,
we
do
not
use
any
fancy.
Those
are
for
those
are,
for
you
know
they.
The
paint
store,
wants
you
to
buy
that
product.
We
use
a
brush
so
only
way
to
get
a
straight
line
truly
straight.
Oh
I
got
another
tip
for
you,
so
there
isn't
an
easy
answer
for
that,
because
it
really
depends
on
the
room.
Some
people
do.
B
You
know
some
people
put
their
popcorn
up.
Well,
some
builders,
usually
the
popcorn,
is
to
cover
up
really
bad
workmanship.
So
then,
okay,
when
you
are
putting
your
your
tape
up
right
on
your
edge,
you
put
it
down
right
and
then
a
lot
of
people
will
use
something
that
won't
burn
the
wall,
but
they
run
it.
This
is
a
theory
I've
seen
it
work,
sometimes
and
don't
count
on
it
100
percent
of
time,
but
it
there
is
some
evidence
that
it
works.
B
You
run
it
real
fast
and
it
melts
the
wax
on
the
tape
and
it
creates
a
better
seal.
Sometimes
that
works.
Sometimes
it
doesn't.
But
the
point
is:
whenever
you're
going
painting
up
against
something
with
tape,
don't
goop
it
on
I
mean
because
it
will,
it
will
bleed.
If
you
put
enough
paint,
you
know
there,
so
we
don't
tape
the
ceiling.
We
don't
use
any
devices,
we
just
do
it
with
the
do
it
with
the
brush
steady
hand.
Yeah
take
your
time,
you
know
so,
but
we
don't
use
any
of
the
funky
devices.
B
I
mean
it's
just
we
stick
to
the
caveman
days
and
just
paint
it
with
a
brush
or
a
finger.
If
we
have
to
so
I
bet,
I
should
have
been
done
about
five
minutes
ago.
I
could
talk
about
painting
all
day.
B
On
how
long
it's
going
to
take
for
you
to
do
it,
you
know
so
like
FrogTape
will
stay
on
longer
and
it
won't
leave
a
residue
so
and
if
you
guys
have
any
other
questions
feel
free
to
grab
a
canned
kuzia
pan
and
a
card.
We're
going
to
be
downstairs.
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
your
questions
offline,
because
I
love
talking
about
painting
anything
else,
not
typically
a
lot
of
times
we're
sealing
it
in
or
we're
removing
it,
and
then
it
really
depends
on
the
house.
B
B
We
don't
we
typically
don't.
If
we
we
typically
don't
if
it's
a
newer
house,
if
we
have,
if
we
suspect
that
there
is
asbestos
in
the
popcorn,
then
we
will
get
it
tested
yep.
Usually
it's
a
discussion.
The
homeowner
is
concerned
about
and
we
find
out
at
that
time,
but
it
really
depends
on
the
situation.
So
so
thank
you.