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From YouTube: HRA Seminar: LED Lighting (2014)
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Learn about the many options with indoor/outdoor LED lighting and installation such as undercabinet, interior room, and landscape applications. Learn from an expert and Master Electrician.
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Does
anybody
know
what
how
LED
lights
work?
Well,
it's
there.
Actually,
it's
a
circuit
board
in
their
their
electronic
they're,
not
at
all
like
normal
filaments
and
lights
that
have
a
filament
NM
at
glow
and
get
warm.
They
actually
have
an
electronic
circuit,
like
a
computer
that
drives
this.
These
little
light
emitting
diodes
a
lot
of
diodes
and
electronic
circuits.
E
Don't
have
light,
come
out
of
them,
but
these
have
a
crystalline
structure
that
allow
light
to
pass
through
when
they
first
came
out,
they
had
a
real
hard
time
coming
up
with
the
color
that
we
like
in
our
light
bulb,
which
is
kind
of
a
soft
white
color,
we're
used
to
so
they've.
They
worked
with
some
some
plastic
substrates
that
covered
over
the
LED
and
different
materials
and
are
able
to
come
out
with
one
that's
people
like
now.
When
they
first
came
out,
they
were
kind
of
bluish
white.
E
E
Leds
do
just
like
a
regular
light,
there's
actually
a
delay
of
about
a
tenth
of
a
second,
it's
just
kind
of
a
click
like
that,
but
but
it
does
come
on
full
brightness
and
they
are
dimmable.
Most
compact,
fluorescents
or
cfls
are
not
dimmable.
You
can
buy
some
dimmable
ones,
but
it's
a
very
small
range
that
you're
working
with
and
dimming
the
LEDs
has
a
larger
range
and
they
dim
just
like
a
regular
incandescent,
bulb.
E
So
those
are
kind
of
the
advantages
they're
also
an
another
advantage
is
the
fact
that
they,
with
our
wonderful
75
degrees,
year-round
weather
here.
Oh
no,
it
gets
cold
here,
they're
not
affected
by
the
cold,
so
they're
good
outdoors,
good
indoors
and
your
garage
if
it's
unheated,
so
it's
just
a
great
all-around
bulb.
Their
price
initially
is
a
little
higher,
but
with
most
of
them
are
in
a
range
of
22
to
25
years
of
life,
some
even
more
than
that
standard
bulbs.
E
When
you
get
a
year
in
a
year
and
a
half,
maybe
two
years
with
compact
fluorescent,
probably
five
to
ten
thousand
hours
so
which,
which
is
about
half
the
amount,
maybe
a
half
to
a
quarter
of
the
amount
of
the
LEDs
so
LEDs.
If
we
think
of
them
like
an
appliance,
you
don't
replace
your
microwave
every
year.
There
are
two:
it's
an
LED,
you
put
it
in
you're,
going
to
forget
about
it.
E
They
use
about
a
sixth
of
what
a
normal
incandescent
bulb
would
use.
So
if
you
had,
let's
say,
for
example,
you
have
a
60
watt,
LED
bulb
soft
white
uses,
nine
and
a
half
wats
normally
would
be
60,
so
it
gives
the
same
lumens,
which
is
how
you
measure
light
output
with
light
bulbs.
So,
if
you're
going
to
compare
apples
to
apples,
look
at
the
lumens,
not
every
manufacturer,
puts
that
on
there
GE
seems
to
sometimes
they
do.
Sometimes
they
don't,
but
you
will
see
on
the
new
technologies
coming
out.
E
So
the
the
different
styles
that
have
come
out
of
LEDs
indoor
lighting
for
ceiling
lights,
wall
lights,
lamps
under
cabinet
lighting,
outdoor
landscape
lighting,
which
kind
of
see
in
the
pictures
here
there's
the
cable
lights.
There's,
of
course,
you
probably
all
heard
about
the
solar
lights.
Most
of
those
are
LED
now
because
they
use
very
little
energy
and
with
the
solar
light,
the
solar
panel
is
charging
up
a
battery
inside
that
when
the
sun's
down
the
battery
comes
on
the
light
lights
at
night
and
it
takes
another
charging
cycle
for
that
to
come
on.
E
So
if
you,
if
you
took
the
battery
out,
you
wouldn't
have
any
light
at
all,
so
you
definitely
have
to
have
a
battery
with
it,
but
these
I
guess
the
batteries
were
probably
I've
had
some
in
my
yard
that
have
lasted
three
years
right
through
the
winter.
I
leave
them
out
winter
summer,
so
I
can't
depends
on
the
fixture
and
it's
an
LED,
so
it
uses
very,
very
low,
wats,
probably
a
quarter
of
a
watt,
let's
see,
but
you
have
any
questions
about
anything.
Yes,
sir,.
F
E
Actual
face
of
the
bulb
is
cool
to
the
touch
like
a
normal
bulb.
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
grab
it
and
take
it
out.
While
it's
lit
the
back
part
of
the
bulb
is
hot
it
all
electricity
develops
heat
and
they've
designed
this
as
a
heat
sink.
When
they
first
came
out,
they
were
well.
There
were
a
lot
more
like
this,
but
even
larger,
yet
to
get
the
heat
away
from
the
electronics
and
that's
so
that
you
get
the
long
life
out
of
there.
E
E
C
A
E
E
Should
be
marked
right
on
the
pan,
that's
how
you
compare
so
you'll.
Eventually,
you
won't
see
60
watts,
anymore,
you'll,
see
a
nine
and
a
half
wat
13
watt
10
watt,
like
a
hundred.
Well
as
you
go
up
in
wattage,
of
course,
your
wattage
and
the
LED
is
going
to
go
up
the
same.
We
had
a
hundred
watt
here.
E
E
A
very
good
question:
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
a
lot
of
people
think
because
LEDs
drawed
more
less
wattage.
Well,
you
can
put
a
75
or
100
watt
equivalent.
It's
only
going
to
draw
maybe
10
13
wats.
That's
not
true,
because
there
is
heat
involved
in
the
base
of
the
lightbulb,
especially
on
a
fixture.
That's
on
the
ceiling
where
the
heat
is
going
to
go
back
up
into
the
wiring
can
dry
out
the
insulation.
Then
you
could
have
a
fire,
so
you
want,
if
they
say
a
60
watt
on
the
fixture.
E
F
E
All
really
good,
we
sell
just
about
everything,
that's
out
I,
don't
know.
If
we
have
any
Sylvania,
we
sell
GE,
Phillips
Cree
Cree
is
actually
the
company
that
developed
the
technology
for
LED
lights.
Everybody
had
to
buy
them
from
Cree,
they
had
a
patent
for
a
certain
amount
of
time.
The
patent
runs
out.
That's
why
you
see
kree
selling
light
bulbs
directly.
Now
they
thought.
Well,
we
developed
it.
Why
not
sell
the
bulbs
directly,
setting
the
distributing
to
someone
else
and
letting
them
sell
them
so
Cree
ecosmart
is
home.
E
Depot's
brand
you'll
start
seeing
a
lot
more
ecosmart
come
out.
That's
a
it's
been
our
brand
for
any
equivalent.
You
know
it
regular
incandescent,
as
well
as
a
CFL
and
led.
Oh,
they
did
come
out
with
just
recently
a
three-way
LED
bulb,
which
a
lot
of
people
have
been
asking
about,
and
it's
equivalent
to
30
60
100.
I
believe
3,700.
Thank
you.
It
has
to
be
additive
so
30
and
70,
and
a
hundred
so
and
you'll
notice,
as
the
wattage
goes
up,
the
bulb
gets
a
little
larger
in
size.
E
G
So
let's
look
at
a
solar
panel
and
I'm
going
to
start
converting
a
lot
of
my
appliances
to
DC
volts.
You,
okay,
today
I'm
having
a
hard
time
finding
leds
for
indoor
rating
for
DC.
Volts
of
these
are
all
they
load
up
the
AC
/
in
there
it's
a
transformer
which
is
all
of
this
students
employed.
That's
where
the
heat
comes.
In
theory,.
D
E
G
G
E
Yeah
I
mean
it's
quite
possible.
I
think
that's
a
great
point.
You
make
and
I
think
if
they
do
that,
perhaps
the
heat
factor
would
go
down
longer
life,
yet
maybe
some
different
designs,
yeah
I,
think
that
would
be
great
I
would
love
to
see
those
people
that
are
in
the
ice
fishing
out.
There
would
love
it
because
they
want
a
12-volt
bulb.
That's
come
on
and
DC
would
be.
You
know
exactly
what
they're
looking
for
so
yeah
I.
Think
that's
a
great
could
happen.
Yes,.
A
E
E
Like
the
recessed
lights
are
65
watt,
65
or
75
watt
and,
of
course,
the
equivalent
and
led
are
65
watt.
So
you
really
don't
want
to
put
120
watt
in
there
yeah.
You
could
have
a
problem.
Well
now
the
the
recessed
lights
and
they
have
for
years
they
have
a
heat
sensor
in
there.
That
would
shut
the
light
off.
So
you'd
have
nuisance
turn
off
and
back
on
again.
E
C
E
Here's
a
bright
white:
this
is
a
75
watt
and
this
one
actually
has
a
swiveling
head
right
on
the
light
bulb.
We
have
bright
white,
soft
white
and
daylight.
This
one
is
this:
one
is
daylight
and
the
60
watt
you
put
your
lamb
yeah
when
I
sell
these
to
people,
I
usually
ask
them.
What
are
you
looking
for
you
looking
for
mood
lighting
or
do
you
want
to
be
able
to
see
like
to
read?
You
know,
mood
lighting.
E
B
F
C
E
To
show
you
guys
this
one
thanks,
Pat
great,
for
a
halt
stairwell.
I
just
sold
12
of
these
today
for
a
commercial
project
for
stairwells.
It
really
lights
up
bright,
it's
very
low
profile.
So,
if
you're
going
downstairs,
it
won't
be
hitting
your
head
on
something
very
simple
to
put
in
these
are
all
LEDs
all
these
little
yellow
deals
in
there.
That's
an
LED
array,
oh.
F
H
E
I
actually
did
an
installation
where
they,
the
customer,
picked
out
the
lights.
They
picked
out
pucks
and
we
put
the
pucks
in
and
they
had
a
was
a
marble
countertop
with
like
some
speckles
in
it,
it
was
beautiful
it
just
it
looked
great
and
you
could
also
see
the
reflection
of
the
light
in
there
as
well,
and
it
actually
added
to
the
look.
So
it's
you
know
what
I
usually
suggest
to
people
is,
and
most
of
these,
the
under-cabinet
lights
are
in
boxes
like
this.
You
take
one
home,
you
hook
it
up.
Put
it
under.
E
There
see
what
it
looks
like.
That's
what
I'm
going
to
do,
what
I
want
to
do
a
project
like
that
and
if
it
looks
great,
keep
it
if
it
doesn't
try
something
else,
bring
it
back.
The
home
depot
is
all
about
you
being
happy
with
the
product
and
that
we're
not
going
to
force
anything
on
you.
So
a
pup
would
be
like
this
here,
like
hockey,
pucks,
that's
where
they
came
from
okay,
they're
in
the
shape
of
a
hockey
puck,
so
their
individual
lights,
as
opposed
to
a
strip
like
this.
E
E
E
The
the
best
time
to
do
that
is
before
you
put
the
cabinets
in
you,
can
bust
holes
behind
the
wall
and
run
your
wiring
and
not
worry
about
it.
The
cabinets
are
covered.
If
you
do
it
afterwards,
oh
okay!
Well,
if
you
already
have
cavesson,
you
got
to
get
creative,
probably
go
with
the
low
voltage
lighting
the
pucks,
and
you
can
just
run
that
light,
the
wiring
up
into
your
cabinet
or
underneath
we
have
ways
of
hiding
it.
E
C
B
H
D
H
B
D
B
E
There's
a
transformer
here
that
changes
it
over
and
switch
to
gamers
are
following
him
on
Julia
for
all
of
them,
so
in
other
words,
you'd
be
tying
them
into
a
central
point.
You'll
be
plugging
into
a
central
point
where
your
transformer,
it's
actually
called
the
power
supply,
changes
the
voltage
from
120
to
about
12
volts
and
from
that
point
you're,
your
switch
comes
off
of
that.
E
B
E
Take
them
out
of
packages
all
the
time
yeah
yeah
this
one
is
kind
of
cool.
This
is
a
strip
that
rolls
out
and
it
has
adhesive
on
the
back.
You
can
cut
it
about
every
three
inches.
I
know.
If
you
can
see,
the
tape
on
ears
will
pass
that
one
around
that
comes
with
you
have
to
buy
a
transformer
to
drive
that,
and
you
can
also
get
a
dimmer
for
it,
that
you
can
mount
on
the
wall
or
underneath
the
cabinet
in
the
cabinet.
Above
it's
kind
of
a
component.
B
E
E
G
A
E
E
E
E
I
believe
that
comes
in
12,
18,
24
I
think
that's
about
it.
There
may
be
more
I
know:
I've
been
on
a
website
and
I've
looked
up
under
our
LED
under
cabinet
lighting
and
I
haven't
gotten
to
the
end
of
it.
It
just
goes
on
and
on
and
on
there's
a
lot
of
options
out
there
too
many
to
hold
of
this
story.
B
Sometimes
you
know
you're
already
had
lights
and
things
like
that
in
your
kitchen,
whatever
it's
now,
it's
necessarily
to
fixture
your
body,
you
got
to
think
about
the
light,
bulb
that
you're
going
to
put
into
that
fixture
to
get
the
maxim
lighting
of
what
year
looking
old,
and
you
know
because
I
help
people
every
day
with
that
particular
problem
because
they'll
buy
incandescent
soft
white
regular
bulb.
Well,
that's
a
yellow
tint
and
that's
not
going
to
give
you
the
kind
of
life
that
you
want.
You
know,
so
that's
something
to
always
think
about.
B
F
E
Hard
part
is
getting
that
that
heat
sink
on
there
to
get
the
heat
away
from
the
electronics
people
want
a
bulb,
there's
a
lot
of
research
involved
and
coming
up
with
these
bulbs.
So
it's
the
costs
are
kind
of
high,
which
is
probably
why
the
bulbs
are
high
initially
so
to
come
up
with
something
like
that.
They
you
know
instead
of
selling
you
well
I've
got
a
real
nice
decorative
Bowl,
but
it's
a
hundred
dollars.
People
going,
oh
no
I,
don't
want
to
buy
that.
E
So
it
takes
some
work
to
come
up
with
the
you
know,
the
materials
for
one
thing:
that's
why
they
use
a
lot
of
plastic
in
this.
It's
an
inexpensive
material
and
we
probably
use
more
oil
in
our
plastics
and
we
do
in
our
automobiles,
it's
all
an
oil-based
product.
So
when
we
think
well,
let's
get
rid
of-
and
it's
great,
let's
get
rid
of.
You
know
using
gas
in
our
cars,
but
we're
still
going
to
need
oil
to
make
plastic
products
plastics
here
to
stay.
It's
not
going
away.
Yes,
sir.
D
C
D
E
Is
something
that
it
they're
working
on
now?
I
know
that's
a
big
deal.
We
do
have
some
LED
lights,
light
fixtures
that
do
have
the
dusted
on
and
motion
built
into
the
fixture
I.
Don't
think
we
brought
any
of
those
tonight,
it's
an
integral
deal,
it's
not
where
you
add
a
bulb
to
it
and
and
they
work
with
that
so
I
know
the
technology
is
there.
They
just
need
to
get
it
out
in
to.
E
I
would
I
would
first
I
I,
don't
get
a
chance
to
go
online
as
much
as
I'd
like
to
I
look
online
on
homedepot.com
first
and
see
what's
there
and
then
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
on
there.
You
just
have
questions,
engineering,
questions
and
they'll
direct
you
to
people
that
can
answer
those.
You.
B
E
F
C
B
E
C
D
F
E
They
do
they
generate
the
heat
and
they're
all
enclosed.
The
ones
that
are
made
for
outdoors
are
designed
to
have
water
and
snow
directly
on
them.
I,
like
I,
said
I've
got
the
little
post,
the
little
steak
lights
and
I,
just
zip
tie
them
to
a
fence,
post
and
they're
on
and
off
all
winter
long
in
the
snow.
They
don't
generate
a
lot
of
heat,
so
you
might
have
to
clear
the
snow
off
like
you
do
with
ordinary
incandescent
lights
as
well,
but
yeah.
E
H
E
C
E
Now
we
don't
and
I
know
they
do,
sell
them
at
Southern
Lights,
because
I've
helped
somebody
install
them
on
a
job
with
a
customer
and
they
were
kind
of
expensive,
a
hundred
dollars
a
piece
per
per
unit.
So
they
are
out
there
the
technologies
out
there
and
we
probably
have
it
on
our
website.
We
just
don't
have
them
in
the
store.
I
think
they
try
to
keep
things
under
about
sixty
dollars
for
any
lighting.
It's
pretty
average
price.
So
yeah,
it's
out
there.
It's
just
you
know
it's
it's
a
little
more
money,
but.
B
I
Existing
overhead
recessed
fixtures
they
take
over
the
65
watt
incandescent.
What
I've
got
several
of
those
and
found
that
the
first
fluorescence
when
go
in
there
because
of
the
big
good
or
the
mouse
built
in
there
and
then
price
now,
ladies
and
they
would
fit
because
of
the
heat
sink.
Is
there
a
solution
for
retrofitting
these?
No
turning
ceiling
apartment
or
a
bold
as
me?
Yes,.
E
Now
it
sounds
like
you
might:
have
the
shallow
cans
yeah,
there's
only
so
much
room
for
a
bulb
to
go
in
there.
So
if,
if
you
did
have
the
shallow
cans-
and
even
if
you
didn't,
they
just
wouldn't
fit
with
what
you
have
wedgie
I
was
just
going
to
get
into
this
this
light
here
and
there's
several
others
like
it
that
you
would
basically
take
the
ball
bout.
Take
the
trem
Oh
take
the
trim
off.
E
Now
you
have
is
just
the
bare:
can
there
you
screw
in
if
you
can
see
it
here,
but
it
comes
in
in
a
piece
that
screws
into
the
socket
with
the
wires
attached
that
are
attached
to
the
back
of
this
that
drive
the
the
LED,
and
then
this
fits
up
into
the
fixture.
The
same
way,
your
old
trim
would
use
these
springs
of
some
sort
or
pressure
fit,
and
so
this
takes
the
place
of
changing
out
the
bulb
you're
changing
the
trim
and
the
bulb
all-in-one
and.
E
Retrofitting
it
getting
the
same
equivalent
as
a
65
watt
reflective
like
any
other
feature
about
this.
If
you
didn't
have
a
recessed
can,
but
you
wanted
that
look
which
is
going
to
be
similar
to
this
one
that
I
have
the
cover,
for
this
will
fit
into
a
four-inch
junction
box
as
well.
So
it's
an
either/or
can
either
going
to
recess,
can
or
a
four-inch
junction
box
wired
in
its
small
enough
to
fit
and
it'll
just
sit
on
the
surface
like
that.
They
call
it
a
disc
light,
so
yeah
for
people
that
want
that
recessed.
E
E
This
technology
in
the
store,
they've
come
out
with
a
four
foot
bulb
that
well
retro
fit
into
a
fluorescent
light.
You
don't
need
to
remove
the
ballast
comes
with
these
plastic,
I
think
they're
just
protectors
on
there.
You
take
those
off
on
both
ends
and
just
put
it
up
just
take
the
bulb
out.
You
don't
do
anything
with
the
ballast
and
put
this
in
now
part
of
it.
There's
a
white
side
and
kind
of
looks
a
little
clearer.
It's
a
little
frosty.
E
No
mercury,
you
know
and
other
other
links
they
might
come
in
other
links.
Online
I
haven't
seen
them
yet
that's
a
possibility,
I'm
sure
they
will
eventually
yeah.
This
will
fit
in
place
of
a
t8
lamp,
which
is
a
one-inch
diameter
lamp.
They
draw
14
and
a
half
wats
as
opposed
to
a
32
wide
bulb
and
they
run
very
cool.
E
E
C
D
E
E
It
has
it
basically
what
it
is
and
they're
just
not
putting
it
on
the
packaging.
It's
a
halogen
bulb,
it's
a
bulb
inside
of
a
bulb.
They
don't
put
the
halogen
on
the
on
the
label,
because
people
like
oh
that's,
hot
and
they
really
I-
think
they
put
them
out
there
for
people
are
just
they're.
Just
stuck
I
have
to
have
an
incandescent
bulb,
they
just
assume
sell
you.
E
An
LED
bulb
you're,
going
to
save
a
lot
more
energy,
the
probably
the
most
energy
it
save
is
somewhere
between
twenty
and
twenty
eight
percent
on
incandescent
bulb
know,
and
you
get
about
a
year
and
year.
Some
of
them
are
0
point
seven
years,
not
even
a
full
year
for
life,
so
you're
not
getting
the
life
out
of
it.
B
B
B
G
E
Not
sure
exactly
how
the
program
works
above
my
pay
grade,
but
they
do,
they
do
offer
some
kind
of
a
savings
it
was
probably
on.
Our
electric
bill
must
be
phenomenal
to
run
one
of
those
stores
and
what
they've
done
is
they
tell
it's
which
bulb
they
want
to
mark
a
lower
price
on
so
you'll
see
the
little
Excel
stickers
they
actually
come
in
and
they
put
these
stickers
on
there.
I
think
we
had
this
60-watt
bulb
was
497
yeah,
the
Kree
bulb
was
497
its
back
up
to
9
97,
they
dropped
their
rebate.
I
G
H
E
You'll
see
it
on
the
price
of
the
product.
If
the
price
will
be
lower
at
the
store,
if
Excel
has,
they
may
have
different
rebates
on
on
other
bulbs
that
are
not
priced
lower
at
the
store.
That's
what's
pat's
talking
about
there,
maybe
even
be
some
tax
savings
to
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Here
we're
going
to
wrap
it
up.
Folks
here.