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August 10, 2017: Utilizing Smart Home Technology
With the growing variety of products on the internet, learn about the ins and outs of smart home technology. Jon Pues of Sightline Technology will show you everything from a plug-in light module all the way up to basic home automation.
A
Welcome
to
our
last
seminar
for
2017
tonight,
our
topic
is
smart
home
technology
before
I
introduce
our
speaker,
though,
just
a
couple
of
quick
announcements.
First
of
all,
my
name
is
Brian
deer
Walker
and
with
Bloomington
HRA
we're
a
housing
and
redevelopment
authority
housed
here
office
here
in
Bloomington,
and
what
I
want
to
mention
about
the
HRA
is
not
only
do
we
offer
affordable
housing
programs
and
redevelopment
activities.
We
also
do
these
seminars
and
we
do
them
every
summer.
So
if
you
want
to
know
more
about
the
seminars,
you
can
look
at
our
website.
A
We
put
it
up
there,
Bloomington
MN,
gov,
put
in
keyword
seminar,
and
you
can
see
past
ones
that
have
been
recorded.
Tonight's
will
be
recorded
and
future
ones.
Two
upcoming
seminars
next
year
will
be
on
that
site.
Also,
and
the
other
thing
I'd
mention
about
Bloomington
HRA
is
most
importantly,
what
I
deal
with
our
home
improvement
loans.
So
if
you
have
any
interest
in
a
home
improvement
loan,
it's
called
a
deferred
loan
and
it's
a
great
way
to
finance
home
improvements.
It's
money
that
you
do
not
have
to
pay
back.
A
A
There's
also
a
door
prize,
drawing
we'll
do
at
the
end.
If
you
haven't
filled
out
that
card,
we'll
ask
at
the
conclusion
make
sure
that
you
fill
that
out
and
then
we
do
draw
two
names
for
$25
gift
card.
Actually
$25
gift
cards,
one
per
household.
So
if
a
couple
happen
to
both
get
drawn
well,
you're
only
gonna
get
one
of
those
and
let's
see
if
there's
snacks
in
the
back
help
yourself
and
with
that
I'll
introduce
John,
pews
John
is
with
sight
line
technology
owner
operator
owner
operator.
It's
got
a
lot
of
good
information.
A
B
We
did
do
home
automation
back
there,
but
the
first
thing
I
would
have
done
was
ask
you
for
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
check
and
set
up
an
appointment
and
come
over
to
discuss
it
back.
Then
this
was
extremely
expensive.
It
could
be
done,
but
it
was
extremely
expensive
and
with
all
forms
of
Technology,
everything
gets
better
and
cheaper
over
time
and
actually
the
business
name
originally
was
all
about
cinema.
But
as
we
move
through
time,
we
had
to
end
up
changing
the
name
of
the
company,
because
everything
became
technology-based.
B
B
So
different
devices
out
there,
some
of
the
most
common
thing,
you're
gonna,
see
in
smart
home
tech
is
locks.
You
know
Schlage
makes
them.
Quits
quick-set
makes
them.
They
are
designed
to
go
on
your
front
door
back
door.
They
can
be
Wi-Fi
enabled,
which
means
you
don't
need
a
Smart
Hub
or
anything.
It
just
simply
goes
out
on
your
Wi-Fi
signal,
so
I'm
presuming
most
houses
are
going
to
have
in
an
internet
connection.
I've
got
a
business
owner
that
that's
all
he
has
is
a
is
a
lock.
B
So
we're
gonna
go
over
the
different
mediums
of
what
what's
out
there,
but
I'm
gonna
kind
of
go
through
the
list.
First
to
go,
show
you
what's
out
there.
Next
most
popular
thing
lights,
everybody
wants
to
control
their
lights
and
the
cool
thing
about
the
tech
now
is
you
can
literally
just
change
a
light
bulb,
don't
have
to
change
on
a
light
switch,
don't
have
to
do
anything
else.
You
just
need
to
be
able
to
unscrew
and
screw
a
light
bulb
in
or
get
a
plug-in
module
the
plug-in
module.
B
We
use
that
a
lot
with
our
security
systems,
because
our
security
systems
have
what
they
call
it
an
astrological
clock
in
there.
So
if
you
want
to
set
like
a
Christmas
tree
to
come
on
at
sunset,
you
can
set
it
in
November
and
the
the
system
keeps
track
of
when
sunset
is
and
slowly
adjusts
when
that
tree
turns
on
over
time.
So
it
might
start
at
five
o'clock
and
then
be
at
four
o'clock
by
the
time.
Christmas
rolls
around.
So
that's
some
kind
of
cool
stuff
about
the
lights
and
their
controllers.
B
C
B
C
B
The
LED
is,
but
it's
the
electricity
around
it
that
isn't
so
yeah
so
and
if
you
guys
have
questions,
go
ahead
and
ask
them
as
I
go
along
thermostats
another
popular
one.
Again,
there
is
multiple
ways
to
put
them
on
the
network.
Again,
assuming
that
most
people
have
Wi-Fi,
you
can
get
a
standalone
thermostat
that
you
can
control
remotely
that
just
sits
on
the
Wi-Fi
at
your
house.
So
no
need
to
get
controllers,
no
need
to
get
anything
else.
B
I
use
nest,
cuz,
that's
a
popular
one
and
everybody
recognizes
it
and
that's
actually
a
learning
learning
thermostat
too,
and
that
will
actually
talk
to
about
every
Smart
Hub.
That's
out
there
right
now,
and
it's
also
standalone
so
lots
of
different
thermostats
garage
doors.
Did
you
close
the
garage
door?
That
was
always
a
popular
one
back
in
the
day
when
we
were
doing
this
is
your
role
in
late
at
night,
you
were
might
have
been
at
the
bar
too
long.
You
managed
to
get
in
the
house,
but
did
you
shut
the
garage
door?
B
We
could
query
sensors
and
shut
garage
doors.
Now
you
can
do
it
with
a.
What
is
that?
That's
like
a
$40
add-on
device
from
Chamberlin,
it's
the
one
I
can
think
of
offhand,
but
it's
all
it
is,
and
it
goes
on
your
Wi-Fi
again.
So
again,
it's
gonna
be
standalone
and
what
I
mean
by
standalone?
Is
you
don't
need
something
else
to
go
with
it?
It's
just
its
own
device.
It
works
on
the
Wi-Fi,
you
don't
Smart
Hub,
you
don't
need
anything
to
talk
to
it.
It
can
work
on
its
own.
B
This
downstream
they
make
add-on
devices,
in
that
case,
you're,
probably
going
to
have
to
get
a
Smart
Hub
because
I'm
pretty
sure
the
one
I'm
thinking
of
has
it
requires
like
the
least
the
wink
hub.
But,
yes,
you
can
get
ones
that
add
on
to
an
old
garage
door.
I
know
the
security
ones
that
we
do
they
actually
like
the
older
doors,
because
it's
a
simple
trip,
that's
all
it
does.
Is
it
does
a
simple
trip
and
it
can
it
can
shut
and
let
you
know
the
status
of
the
garage
door.
D
B
Pretty
sure
I'd
have
to
check
on
that,
because
I
did
see
one
the
other
day
that
you
know
a
lot
of
these
are
designed
around
new
equipment,
but
I
saw
a
z-wave
one
and
as
soon
as
it's
z-wave
I
know
it's
going
to
require
a
controller.
So
I
saw
a
z-wave
one.
That's
meant
to
work
with
the
wink
hub
that
so
you
could,
but
you'd
have
to
get
two
pieces
and
you
definitely
have
to
have
a
smartphone.
Then
that's
the
other
thing
I
should
mention
when
we're
going
through
this.
B
All
this
stuff
is
meant
to
work
with
smartphones,
so
any
type
of
home,
automation
from
DIY
to
professional,
is
all
geared
to
work
around
your
little
device
here
that
Steve
Jobs
gave
us
in
2007
change
the
world.
So
I
guess
I
should
clarify
that
that
all
this
stuff
is
designed
to
work
around
your
smartphone.
E
B
B
Sprinkler
systems
irrigation
systems-
again,
usually
I,
haven't
snow,
yeah,
I
guess
I
have
seen
one
that's
just
an
app,
so
there
is
ones
that
you
can
just
it's
an
app
on
your
smartphone.
So
that's
gonna
sit
on
the
Wi-Fi,
but
there's
several
of
them
that
are
meant
to
work
with
the
the
different
controllers.
B
Very
often,
I
literally
had
a
customer
that
we
were
talking
to
this,
about
that
it
was
looking
to
put
in
a
security
system
and
he's
a
delta
pilot
spends
most
the
time
up
at
the
at
the
lake
and
so
they're,
not
at
in
their
house,
and
eating
a
lot
and
wide
hose
burst.
So
for
two
weeks
water
poured
into
that
house
until
some
me
came
home
and
found
out
what
was
going
on.
So
this
is
a
pretty
cool,
a
device
you
can
get
them
off.
B
The
old
area,
if
you're
mean
if
your
laundry
is
still
in
the
basement
right
next
to
the
floor
drain.
But
what
if
a
hose
breaks
mean
a
kind
of
big
deal?
It's
just
going
to
drain
down
the
floor
drain.
Like
I
said
his
stuff
has
moved
up.
It
gets
to
be
a
bigger
deal
now,
so
these
come
in
handy
and
especially
for
late
cabins.
Also,
so
that's
a
very
cool.
A
B
This
actually
has
a
come,
I
actually
looked
at
it
to
make
sure
I
knew
what
it
was
and
it
actually
comes
with
a
sensor.
So
as
far
as
I
know,
when
I
looked
at
it,
the
sensor
talks
to
the
unit
and
shuts
it
off,
but
it
has
to
send
a
notification
out
and
with
anything
you
have
to
have
some
way
to
communicate
with
your
phone
so
that
you
know
it's
been
triggered,
but
it'll
just
flat-out
shut
it
off.
D
E
B
Cuz
like
right
now,
I'm
on
just
on
the
LTE
circuit
I
could
call
into
my
system
at
home.
I
could
dial
into
it
and
I
could
drive
my
wife
nuts
in
about
two
minutes
by
turning
all
the
lights
on
and
off
and
yeah
she'd
be
really
happy
with
me,
but
yeah
as
long
as
you
have
as
long
as
your
phone
has
access
you're
good
to
go.
E
F
B
Now
I
triggered
the
app
and
I'm
talking
to
the
it.
This
phone
is
talking
to
my
security
panel
at
the
house,
and
so
I
can
go
in.
I
could
do
all
kinds
of
things
so
yeah
it's
that's
all
it
is,
but,
like
I
said
back
in
the
day,
I
would
have
been
dialing
in
and
I
guess.
I
just
showed
my
age
I've
been
doing
this
for
a
while.
E
B
We
have
there's
carbon
monoxide
detectors,
that's
going
to
be
the
main
one
but
offhand,
except
on
the
security
platform
no,
but
on
the
security
platform.
Yes,
so
if,
if
you
have
a
security
system,
we
can
put
in
gas
sensing
ones,
but
I
haven't
seen
anything
in
the
in
the
DIY
platform,
but
just
give
it
time
because,
like
I
said
more
and
more
stuff
keeps
coming
in
all
the
time.
B
A
B
G
B
B
What
it
is
is
the
that,
if
I'm
talking
like
a
this
security
is
a
little
different,
so
I'm
talking
about
like
Lincoln
Floyd's
or
like
the
panel's
I
put
in,
we
have
more
devices
that
will
talk
to
that
panel.
So
what
happens
is.
Is
those
devices
talk
to
my
security
panel
and
then
the
security
panel
goes
out
over
the
internet.
So
that's
the
only
difference
is
there's
that's
the
security
panels
the
hub
and
then
it
talks
to
the
router,
and
that
goes
out
over
the
internet.
B
So
it
just
gives
you
it
gives
you
more
because
we've
been
doing
for
security
for
so
long
there's,
just
more
security
devices
that
can
talk
to
a
security
panel,
then
they've
come
out
with
will
talk
to
like
a
wink
hub
or
a
Samsung
smartthings
hub.
So
that's
that's
the
difference
and
I'll
go
over
that
in
a
little
bit
too,
and
that's
why
this
security
stuff
I'm,
showing
here,
is
an
example
of
z-wave
security.
This
is
meant
to
talk
to,
and
these
are
basic.
B
These
are
like
door
sensors,
then
the
bigger
one,
with
the
with
the
image
that
is
a
motion
sensor
and
then
the
other
one
on
the
ends
of
siren,
and
it's
specifically
meant
to
work
with
ziwei
of
hubs,
and
but
it's
just
to
show
you
that
you
can
do
security
with
the
DIY
smart
hubs
without
having
to
have
actual
a
security
guy.
Like
me,
come
in
it's
just
a
different
way
to
do
it.
B
The
last
one
is
a
siren,
so
yep,
the
last
one's
a
siren,
I,
think
they're
made
by
linear,
but
I'm,
not
positive,
because
I've
seen
him
around
and
I've
seen
him
in
my
some
of
my
manufacturer
stuff.
But
this
is
the
popular
one
that
I've
seen
like
on
the
winxs
site
and
I'm
gonna
refer
to
wink
a
lot,
because
you
can
go
over
to
Home
Depot
and
get
it.
B
And
they,
actually,
you
can
it'll,
be
monitored
on
your
smartphone,
which
is
called
self
monitoring,
or
they
actually
have
a
package
for
like
10
bucks
a
month.
So
it's
just
like
I
said
it's.
It
everything's
growing
and
it's
it
they're,
basing
it
on
the
DIY
end
of
it,
video
camera
and
video
doorbells.
This
is
where
it
gets
a
little
more
interesting.
B
The
video
goes
to
your
smartphone
and
it
record
you
can
ring,
has
a
cloud
service.
So
then
you
can
actually
have
it
recorded
up
in
the
cloud
and
then
rings
got
a
bunch
of
other
fun
cameras
that
you
can
cover
the
whole
house
and
the
one
nice
thing
about
ring
is
it's
battery
powered.
So
if
you
don't
have
power
at
your
front
door,
which
most
people
are
going
to,
but
I've
run
into
customers
that
don't
it's
got
a
battery
that
goes
for
you
know
three
to
six
months.
B
C
C
B
C
B
Much
no,
no,
no,
it's
not
constant
it
actually.
Just
trips,
it
has
a
motion
grid.
You
can
set
up
for
motion
or
you
can
set
up
just
for
when
somebody
presses
the
doorbell
so
like
your
Amazon
guys
will
actually
come
up
and
hit.
The
doorbell
I
got
lots
of
pictures
of
Amazon
guys
hitting
the
doorbell,
which
is
actually
kind
of
nice,
because
then
they
hit
the
doorbell
I,
get
a
notification.
B
I
can
look
at
the
notification
say:
oh
somebody
dropped
off
an
amazon
package,
the
UPS
guys
and
the
FedEx
guys
don't
do
that,
but
you
can
set
up
the
motion
detection
so
that
if
they
get
close
enough
to
it,
you'll
get
a
notification
anyways
and
that's
one
of
the
biggest
stuff
things
we're
seeing
now
is
all
the
home
deliveries.
People
are
going
up
and
stealing
stuff
off
your
front
porch,
so
so
this
one's
in
a
the
skybell
just
another
company.
That
does
it,
but
you
have
to
have
power
at
the
front
door.
B
So
you
just
need
your.
You
know:
everybody.
Usually
everybody
has
a
powered
front
doorbell
and
it
just
runs
off
the
24
volts.
That's
running
your
regular
doorbell.
In
the
house,
so
they're
pretty
cool
and
the
last
one's
an
S
camera,
it's
just
an
example
of
an
Internet
camera.
There's
lots
of
them
out
there
I
like
nest,
because
they're
a
little
more
secure
and
I'll
get
that
into
that
a
little
bit
later.
B
But
it's
just
another
example
of
you
know:
that's
a
$199
camera
and
it
goes
out
and
they
literally
when
we
put
this
stuff
in,
for
when
we
did
a
customer
about
15
years
ago.
There
was
nothing
like
this
existed,
so
you
could
only
do
it
to
laptop
the
license
for
the
Honeywell
equipment
was
a
thousand
dollars
just
for
the
license
to
put
the
software
on
his
laptop.
This
is
$199
camera
and
a
free
app,
and
it
goes
over
your
smart
phone.
B
That's
how
much
things
have
changed
over
the
years
and
then
I
mentioned
carbon
and
smoke,
alarms
that
one's
kitty,
that
one's
nest,
nest,
kind
of
famous
for
the
carbon
smoke
alarm.
It
works
with
the
nest
system,
but
it
will
also
work
with
a
lot
of
the
smart
hubs
same
with
a
kitty.
It
actually
works
with
a
smart
hub,
so
you
can
get
a
notification
on
your
phone,
it's
kind
of
taking
it.
The
next
step,
which
is
nice.
B
Yep,
the
big
one
was
the
hardwired
ones.
Is
you
have
to
have
them
per
code,
and
but
they
don't
they.
They
alert
the
people
in
the
house,
but
they
don't
tell
anything
else.
They
don't
tell
anybody
else.
What's
going
on
and
that's
kind
of
the
idea
about
getting
these
alerts
is
that
you
know
you
could
literally
know
that
there's
a
fire
in
your
house
before
anybody
else
does
because
your
phone's
going
to
alert
you
about
it.
That's
kind
of
the
idea
about
it,
the
more
more
information
you
have,
the
better
off
you
are.
F
B
The
nest
one,
it's
just
the
nest,
app,
that's
why
I
use
it
it's
pretty
popular
most
nest
makes
the
thermostat
the
vide
the
video,
and
then
this
one
and
it's
pretty
popular,
and
so
it
they'll
all
talk
to
the
nest.
App.
That's
all
you've
got
to
do
is
have
the
nest
app
on
your
phone.
The
kitty
one
I
saw
when
I
was
doing
some
research
for
this
and
I
I'm.
Pretty
shy.
Think
because
kitty
put
it
out,
there's
there's
an
app
that
would
go
on
your
phone
for
it.
B
B
So
it's
and
this
one
ovens
and
stoves
I
work
with
a
guy
from
Werner
stallion
and
I
gave
this
quick
presentation
at
my
Network
meeting,
and
he
said
you
forgot
the
stoves
I'm,
like
white
heels,
yeah
stove
stoves
are
smart.
Now
so
yep
you
can
get
apps.
They
go
on
your
phone.
It's
pretty
cool
and
they'll
talk
to
the
smart
hubs.
B
D
B
I
know
it's
just
everything's
I
used
to
tell
my
customers
when
I
would
wire
homes.
I
would
run
Network
lines
to
the
kitchen
and
up
by
the
laundry,
because
it's
kite
always
told
him.
It's
coming
and
I
just
never
figured
out,
though,
that
they
were
gonna
put
them
on
Wi-Fi,
so
everything's
really
on
Wi-Fi.
There's
really
not
too
many
that
have
hard
connections,
but.
C
B
Usually
I
mean
we'll
have
to
sometimes
when
we
do
some
of
these
installs
we'll
have
to
boost
the
Wi-Fi
in
the
home,
because
the
stuff
you
get
from
CenturyLink
Comcast
Mediacom,
whoever
sometimes
that's
not
enough,
so
we'll
have
to
come
in
and
do
a
little
tweaking
to
the
Wi-Fi
in
the
home.
But
there's
a
couple
really
good
systems
down
where
we
can
put
on
a
couple
units
in
the
home
and
get
Wi-Fi
everywhere,
and
some
of
these
old
homes
are
a
challenge.
B
I've
got
one
in
Edina,
where
we've
got
five
wireless
access
points
in
the
house,
because
it's
all
brick
stucco
I
mean
it's
old
school
of
construction,
and
you
can't
get
a
Wi-Fi
signal
to
propagate
that
house
at
all.
So
we
have
five
units
in
that
house
for
her
to
get
decent
Wi-Fi
coverage
in
her
house.
I
literally
have
a
church
where
we
have
five
for
the
entire
church
that
covers
10,000
square
feet,
so
quite
different.
But
it's
just
how
the
Wi-Fi
signal
propagates
through
their
house,
but
they've,
got
a
couple
systems
down
where
we
can.
B
We
can
boost
up
the
signal
pretty
easily
appliances.
Yes,
your
washer
and
dryer
your
your
water
heater
more
for
your
tankless
units,
but
they
have
it
out.
There.
Reams
got
one
that
talks
to
all
our
stuff
and
that's
it
for
for
the
gear
that
I
put
up
there.
So
that
kind
of
just
trying
to
give
you
an
idea
of
all
the
stuff.
That's
out
there
now
we're
going
to
get
into
how
do
they
talk
because
that's
a
big
deal
that
is
a
very
big
deal.
B
We
have
z-wave,
we
have
ZigBee,
we
have
the
kitty
style.
We
have
bluetooth
and
I,
put
bluetooth
up
there
because
there's
a
couple
of
them
that
do
bluetooth
and
the
thing
about
Bluetooth.
Is
it
works
for
about
thirty
feet?
A
Bluetooth
signal
will
work
for
about
thirty
feet,
but
there
is
at
least
one
or
two
companies
that
have
a
couple
cool
products
that
work
on
Bluetooth
and
depending
on
where
you
put
your
smart
hub,
you
can
get
it
to
talk
to
that
Bluetooth
device.
B
So
if
you
have
like
it's
average
house
here
in
Bloomington
Richfield
wherever,
if
that
Smart
Hub
is
in
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
a
house,
you
can
get
it
to
talk
to
those
Bluetooth
devices,
but
I
put
it
up
there,
because
it's
it's
one
of
the
communication
standards.
Claire
connect
by
Lutron
I
actually
put
that
up
there,
because
that's
an
example
of
a
bigger
system.
B
B
Those
are
the
three
big
ones,
and
the
reason
you
got
to
know
is
because
when
you
go
to
Home
Depot
or
you
buy
something
off
of
Amazon,
you're
gonna
buy
a
little
device
and
you
have
to
know
how
that
device
communicates,
because
if
you're
gonna
add
it
to
a
Smart
Hub,
you
got
to
know
what
that
Smart
Hub
will
talk
to,
and
so
that's
why
I
listed.
These
are
the
big
ones,
and
this
by
far
is
the
biggest
so
z-wave.
B
The
z-wave
consortium
has
the
most
amount
of
devices
out
there
hands-down,
so
if
you
go
to
Home
Depot
or
wherever
you
want
it,
you're.
Basically
looking
for
z-wave
enabled
devices,
that's
the
big
one.
Next
one
is
probably
why
finds
igby
are
probably
about
the
same.
Zigbee
is
more
familiar
to
to
the
professionals,
because
we
started
with
ZigBee
and
Wi-Fi
and
then
z-wave
showed
up
and
z-wave
was
really
kind
of
deer
geared
towards
the
consumer
market,
but
they
have
just
flat-out
taken
over
control
of
the
amount
of
smart
devices
out
there.
B
We
know
this
one
is
and
the
one
over
there
Google
home.
So
very
good,
though
so
voice
interaction
has
become
a
big
deal
in
like
the
last
two
years.
It's
been
kind
of
you
know.
We
had
series
show
up
maybe
four
years
ago,
but
Syrah
is
kind
of
a
cute
little
thing
that
was
on
your
smartphone,
but
now
with
Google
home
and
Alexa,
it's
just
gone
nuts
I
mean
what
we
can
get
Alexa
to
do.
C
B
F
B
Haven't
seen
that
one
yet,
but
that's
how
fast
things
change,
but
these
are
the
two
big
ones
for
voice
interaction,
if,
if
anything
and
it's
nice,
because
instead
of
you
having
to
use
the
screen,
you
just
talk
to
Alexa
and
or
Google
home,
and
you
can
have
them
sync
to
the
calendars
in
your
smart
phone
or
your
Google
Calendar
or
you
name
it.
The
amount
of
stuff
that
this
stuff
is
doing
these
days
is
amazing
and
most
of
the
companies
will
announce
that
they're
Alexa,
compatible
or
Google
home
compatible.
They'll.
B
E
E
B
B
B
So
what
I've
been
calling
the
smart
hubs
here
they
are-
and
this
is
just
again
an
example
of
three
of
them-
they're
kind
of
the
big
ones,
there's
more
of
them
out
there
and
what
a
Smart
Hub
is.
Is
it's
talking
to
your
z-wave
device?
It's
talking
to
your
ZigBee
device.
That's
what's
actually
talking
to
it.
The
only
thing
that
you're
going
to
have
on
your
phone,
that's
going
to
have
an
app,
that's
going
to
be
standalone
is
usually
Wi-Fi
or
Bluetooth
one
of
the
two.
It's
not
going
to
be
ZigBee
or
z-wave.
B
These
are
the
hubs,
and
so
when
I
say
talking
to
I
guess
maybe
I
should
say
communicate.
So
when
you
press
the
light
switch
on
like
you,
you
bring
up
the
your
smart
device
and
you
want
to
turn
a
light
off.
So
you
press
that
button.
It's
actually
talking
to
that
and
then
that's
telling
the
light
switch
to
turn
off
yep
and
so
Alexis
just
another
way
of
doing
it.
She's
in
essence,
you're
just
telling
Alexa
to
push
the
button
for
you,
but
that's
all
it
is.
B
B
They're
limited
to
about
what
no,
not
ports,
these
will
all
tunnel
back
to
their
servers.
So
you
don't
have
to
mess
with
your
router
at
all
these
all
tunnel
back
to
wherever
their
servers
are
located
and
a
lot
of
the
controlling
smarts
are
out
in
the
cloud.
So
there's
also
something
located
out
in
the
cloud.
That's
talking
to
these
and
talking
to
your
phone
at
the
same
time,
to
get
it
to
do
stuff
and
that's
why
these
are
less
expensive.
B
They
don't
have
as
much
processing
power
because
they're
using
stuff
out
in
the
cloud
to
do
the
processing
forum-
that's
actually
Alexa,
Google
home.
They
don't
have
to
do
much
local
processing,
it
all
goes
back
to
Google
or
Amazon
servers
and
then
comes
back
to
your
phone.
Just
like
Siri
does
to
Siri,
actually
is
processed
by
Apple
in
the
cloud,
so
everything
you're
talking
to
Siri
about
there.
B
Actually,
it's
going
out
to
the
cloud
and
coming
back
to
your
phone
that
quickly
in,
like
you,
said
these
things,
you
can
do
just
crazy
amounts
of
stuff
with
them
the
amount
of
devices
if
you
go
to
their
websites.
It's
just
amazing.
The
amount
of
stuff
that
you
can
link
to
these
and
it's
all
done
designed
to
be
done
by
you
guys
it's
all
designed
to
be
DIY
and
most
of
them
I
got
the
guy
at
my
office,
uses
the
wink
hub
and
he
likes
it.
B
He
has
fun,
but
the
one
thing
he
does
is
he's
got
an
Alexa
sitting
on
his
desk.
Alexa
Google
home
learned
your
voice,
Alexa
doesn't
so
we
can.
We
can
tell
Alexa
to
do
things
to
his
lights
at
his
house,
so
we
mess
with
him
every
once
in
a
while.
That
is
one
big
difference
between
Google
home
and
Alexa,
but
anyways,
so
smart
hubs.
B
So
the
Smart
Hub
talks
to
the
smart
device
in
the
house
and
like
wink
vera
they'll
talk
to
z-wave,
ZigBee,
Bluetooth,
Wi-Fi
they'll
talk
to
everything
and
that's
why
they've
designed
these
things.
So
the
next
step
up
from
this
is
what
I
was
talking
about.
Is
the
security
guys
so
the
Floyd's
right
here
in
Bloomington?
B
They
saw
a
lot
of
the
same
stuff.
I
do,
and
so
you
can
do
all
this
own.
Automation
can
be
done
with
your
security
panel
and
that's
kind
of
the
next
step
up,
so
that
is
professionally
installed,
but
actually
designed
to
be
used
by
you.
So
then,
all
the
z-wave
devices
you
can
go
out
and
buy
an
ad
in
control
by
yourself.
You
don't
have
to
call
me,
you
can
add
them
to
your
security
system
to
your
security
panel
by
yourself
ideal.
B
If
the
security
side,
you
deal
you
work
with
all
the
z-wave
stuff,
so
I've
got
several
customers
that
that's
the
way
we
installed
it
and
then
they
just
call
me
for
questions
every
once
in
a
while,
because
I've
got
one
guy,
that's
got
an
entire
smart
home
on
one
of
the
security
panels,
every
light
every
thermostat,
you
name
it
it's
on
that
panel
and
he
just
adds
the
programming
in
for
the
z-wave
devices.
So
that's
pretty
cool
and
then
then
the
final
step
is
on
in
the
home.
B
Automation
world
is
the
professionally
installed,
and
then
you
can
kind
of
do
whatever
you
want
to
do
when
we
do
professional
systems
again.
The
funny
thing
is
is
we
can
talk
obviously
to
everything,
but
so
can
most
of
these
DIY
hubs
too.
So
there
is
a
little
difference
because
the
this
the
hubs,
even
though
they
say
they're
good
to
like
250
devices,
ya,
know
they're
good
for
about
50
devices,
which
covers
most
average
homes,
but
once
you
start
crossing
especially
on
z-wave,
you
cross
that
50
device
list.
B
B
So
this
is
an
example
of
a
Bluetooth
device,
so
this
is
made
by
switch
mate
and
it's
made
so
that
you
can
literally
and
it's
over
at
Home
Depot
or
you
can
get
it
off
Amazon,
but
they're
like
25
bucks
and
you
can
get
a
rocker
style
or
just
a
standard
switch
style.
It
literally
just
sticks
on
top
of
the
light
switch
and
it's
bluetooth.
B
B
You
just
literally
click
sucker
right
over
the
top
and
it
uses
a
little
magnets
to
grab
onto
the
screws
and
the
it
comes
with
a
set
of
batteries,
and
it's
good
for
they
say
six
months
to
a
year
depending
on
how
much
you
use
it,
but,
like
I
said,
if
you
can
get
like
a
wink
hub
close
enough
to
it,
it'll
talk
to
it
so
within
about
thirty
feet,
clear
shot!
So
that's
that's!
B
E
E
B
That's
you
know,
giant
the
digital
only
uses
the
alligator
part
in
the
front,
that's
all
it
uses,
and
so,
if
somebody's
got
an
old
antenna
up
in
the
attic,
we
just
hook
right
up
to
them
and
they
work
great.
You
know
we're
in
a
good
shot
in
this
area
from
shore
of
you,
I
can't
somewhat
Bloomington's
got
some
issues
because
Hyland
gets
in
the
way
and
there's
a
there's
a
couple
low
spots,
but
otherwise
it's
generally
not
too
bad,
but
yeah.
D
B
B
B
Yeah
it
happened
a
lot
cuz,
cable,
cable
with
him
in
the
70s
cable,
really
got
big
in
the
70s
and
everybody
started
ditching
their
antennas,
because
cable
was
cheap,
then
cable
got
expensive
and
that's
why
we
have
all
what
we
call
the
cord
cutters
yeah.
You
can
actually
get
some
good
service
with
rabbit
ears.
D
B
Is
just
another:
it's
a
format
issue.
Well,
that's
all
the
differences
is
it
comes
over
the
same
airwaves.
It's
UHF.
The
we
used
to
have
VHF
was
like
402,
four,
five,
nine,
eleven,
thirteen,
that's
VHF
and
then
UHF
was
twenty
nine
forty
five,
those
channels.
Well,
all
digital
isms
were
up
on
the
u-ace
UHF
spectrum
and
that's
why
those
old
antennas
still
work.
So
it's
just
a
delivery
system.
That's
all
it
is,
and
then
the
decoder
inside
the
TV
is
a
little
different
yep,
but
yeah
you
can
do
with
rabbit
ears.
B
C
B
F
B
So
the
wink,
the
wink
one,
for
example,
it's
going
to
wink
servers
wherever
they're
located,
probably
out
in
california,
samsung
same
thing.
It's
going
to
samsung
servers
viera
would
go
to
viera
servers,
right,
yep,
there's,
no
monthly
cost
and
even
like
the
the
automation
systems
I
put
in
there's
no
monthly
costs.
The
only
difference
is
is
like
the
systems
that
we
put
in
most
almost
all
the
processing
is
actually
in
the
house.
B
So
I
put
in
a
black
box-
that's
anywhere
from
this
big
to
about
yay,
big
and
all
the
processing
power
is
in
that
box
in
the
house.
So
it
doesn't
the
only
thing
it
has
to
go
out
to
the
internet.
For
us
to
talk
to
my
phone
and
that's
where
we
get
into
port
forwarding,
and
I
got
it-
we
got
to
do
some
stuff
in
the
routers,
but
all
the
smarts
are
in
the
home
and
that's
why
it's
more
expensive,
because
you're
paying
for
all
the
smarts
to
be
in
your
home.
D
B
So
and
I
so
there's
the
security
guys
like
me,
I
come
and
install
a
security
panel,
it's
professionally
monitored.
It
goes
to
a
monitoring
system
here
and
then
the
z-wave
is,
is
it
has
a
z-wave
card
in
and
it
talks
all
kinds
of
z-wave
devices
that
you
know
I
might
put
in
one
or
two
and
stro
something
how
to
use
it.
D
B
Well,
with
the
z-wave
stuff,
my
security
stuff
I
can
do
wow
I
can
easily
put
a
hundred
and
some-odd
carrot
wireless
security
devices
on
any
any
of
the
Honeywell
panels
I
put
on,
but
I,
don't
know
if
you'd
ever
need
that,
but
it's
just
but
the
that
security
stuff
operates
in
a
completely
different
platform
than
this
does,
and
this
is
all
I've
seen
so
far
for
the
z-wave
stuff
is
I've.
Seen
this
system
a
couple
times
and
it's
pretty
basic
to
the
to
the
industry
is
what
they
call
three
doors
in
a
motion
sensor.
D
B
D
B
Because,
okay,
so
this,
the
security
panel
that
like
I
would
put
in
has
has
a
whole
thing
that
just
is
designed
to
talk
to
the
monitoring
system
here
in
town.
So
so,
when
something
goes
wrong,
it
calls
out
to
a
monitoring
center
and
those
people
call
the
police
or
they
call
you.
Okay,
the
Smart
Hub
can
kind
of
do
that.
It
just
works
a
different
way.
B
B
That
is
cup
connected
to
the
local
power
or
I
would
suggest
hooking
it
up
to
UPS.
So
you
have
battery
backup,
I
mean
if
you.
If
your
power
goes
out-
and
you
mean
your
light.
Switches
are
going
to
go
dead,
but
your
regular
light
switches
are
going
dead
anyways.
But
if
you've
got
something
like
the
security,
those
devices
are
battery
powered,
so
those
will
still
be
active,
and
so
it's
not
a
bad
idea
than
to
back
up
your
hub
and
then
back
up
your
Wi-Fi
and
then,
if
the
power
goes
out,
you
most
battery
backup.
B
B
It's
pretty
straightforward,
it's
literally
you
you,
you
would
you
would
setup
you
would
get
like
like
if
you
buy
these
from
Home
Depot
quite
often
they'll
have
packages,
you
can
get
a
package
deal
reading
it
like
two
lights,
which
is
because
there
was
one
with
like
switch
meet.
Where
you
get
to
switch
mate.
B
You
download
it
into
your
from
your
app
store,
your
Google
Play
Store
into
your
phone,
and
then
you
just
follow
the
set
up
like
I
said
the
the
ring
stuff
I
set
one
up
for
my
son
and
it
took
me
like
it,
took
longer
to
install
the
cameras
than
it
did
to
actually
set
up
the
ring
system
and
it's
pretty
it's
fairly
reliable
ring
is
Wi-Fi
yep
and
it
like
said
it's.
It's
a
cool
system
because
it's
they
have
battery-powered
dance,
so
they
have
a
solar-powered
camera.
B
We
put
went
on
his
garage
so
that
you
know
it's
battery-powered
camera,
so
it
go
for
like
two
to
six
months
before
you
have
to
change
to
charge
the
battery
and
it'll.
Send
you
a
little
email
saying:
hey
batteries
getting
low,
but
they
make
a
solar
panel
for
forty
five
bucks
that
adds
on
to
it
and
you
just
face
it
to
the
Sun.
And
then
you
don't
have
to
deal
with
it
just
charges
it
up
so
sure.
B
My
cost
it's,
the
z-wave
is
what
they
call
it
curates,
what
they
call
mesh
network
and
it's
just
less
expensive.
If
you
started.
If
you
tried
to
do
some
of
these
things,
Wi-Fi
they
wouldn't
work
real
well,
and
so
that's
why
the
like,
especially
like
light
switches
and
door
locks
quite
often
or
z-wave,
it's
just
it's
less
expensive,
and
then
they
they're
designed
to
work
with
a
Smart
Hub
and
that's
why
they
do
it
because,
like
it
used
to
be
when
we
started
doing
this
controlled
light
load
was
two
hundred
fifty
dollars.
B
B
C
B
It's
like
in
Bloomington
what
we
have.
We
have
centric
CenturyLink
and
Comcast,
or
that's
it
for
Bloomington.
Isn't
it
and
then
the
only
other
way
you
can
go
is
why
you
can
go
wireless
well,
as
in
you
can
use
your
Verizon.
You
know.
Verizon
makes
a
smart
hub,
that's
designed
to
work
in
the
house,
but
you
do
just
that's
not
a
good
idea
if
you've
got
a
hardwired
internet
connection,
that's
too
cheapest
way
to
get
your
internet,
so
the
only
other
way
to
do
it.
B
B
B
C
B
F
B
So
when
we
were
talking
about
those
water
valves,
those
are
moisture
sensors.
So
the
moisture
sensor
goes
down
on
the
floor
and
it's
looking
for
moisture.
It's
basically
just
a
contact.
When
the
water
hits
the
floor,
it
shuts
the
contact
which
triggers
the
alarm.
That's
that's
about
all.
It
is
literally
and
they
make
I
there's
hardwired
ones,
there's
battery-powered
ones,
the
one
that
comes
with
that
device
is
battery-powered
and
they
can
be
tempt
that
can
also
be
just
low,
temp.
Sensors.
B
That's
why
I
said:
there's
standalone
low,
temp
sensors,
so
you
don't
have
to
get
the
thermostat
if
you'll
have
like
a
cabin
someplace,
you
know
that's
where
you'd
put
like
one
of
those
freedompop
devices
as
long
as
it
can
get
internet
signal,
you
buy
it,
for
you
know,
for
the
price
you
pay,
you
put
it
in
the
cabin
that
gives
you
Internet
service
to
that
cabin.
And
then
you
can
put
your
little
device
down
on
the
floor
and
you
should
be
good
to
go.
D
D
D
B
Do
consulting
so
you
can.
You
can
knock
yourself
out,
you
know
and
like
I
said,
any
of
them
are
pretty
reasonably
easy
to
set
up,
and
if
you
get
into
trouble,
yeah
I've
got
business
cards
here
you
can
give
me
a
call
and
they
can
come
out
and
give
you
a
little
consult
but,
like
I
said
most
of
its
pretty
pretty
straight,
the
locks
are
the
toughest
and
it's
really
not
because
of
the
of
the
of
talking
to
it.
It's
because
it's
an
electronic
device
where
it's
got
to
throw
that
lock.
B
So
if
you
have
to
like
push
your
door
a
little
bit
to
get
it
to
lock
yeah,
they
won't
work.
So
I
actually
have
my
contractor
that
I
work
with
it
was
really
good
at
getting
door
straight.
I
actually
have
to
come.
Have
him
come
out
and
get
that
door
lined
up
so
that
that
device
can
just
throw
that
lock
across
and
that's
usually
the
biggest
problem,
the
the
getting
them
on
the
network?
Getting
the
work
is
rather
easy.
It's
just
getting
that
lock
to
throw.
B
Yeah,
you
know
it
comes
down
to
when
it
comes
to
the
lake.
It
says
the
Internet
there's
more
and
more
stuff
going
on
it.
Just
kind
of
depends
on
what
you
want
to
do.
I
mean
it's
just
it's
out
there.
The
costs
have
come
down
dramatically
over
time
and
it's
just
kind
of
like
yeah.
What
do
you
want
to
control
I
like
it,
because
I
can
I
can
babysit
my
house
without
being
at
home?
That's
I
kind
of
look
at
as
my
Butler,
you
know,
I
can
dial
into
my
Butler
and
see.
B
What's
going
on,
you
know,
I
can
look
at
my
cameras.
I
can
see
if,
if,
if
packages
have
coming
to
the
front
door,
I
can
get
an
alert
if
I
forget
to
leave
the
garage
door
open
and
I've
done
it
before,
and
you
get
this
little
annoying
text
about
10
minutes
later
going
hey
you
forgot
to
shut
the
garage
door,
then
I
just
open
up
my
app
and
close
the
garage
door
sitting
at
the
airport.
I've
heard
that
story
it's
like
did
I.
B
You
know
what
did
I
get
everything
and
people
open
up
their
apps
and
go?
Oh
yeah
I
forgot
something
or
like
John
who
was
supposed
to
be
here
tonight.
That's
got
a
business
in
Bloomington
he's
got
the
Wi-Fi
lock
on
his
back
door
and
he's
walked
out
forgot
to
lock
the
door
and
he'll
get
an
alert.
I
got
a
realtor
that
uses
them
same
thing.
They
went.
You
know
they
walk
away
from
the
house,
and
these
are
security
systems.
He
goes.
B
Oh
did
I
arm
the
system
checks,
his
phone
goes
all
I
didn't
and
then
he
goes
and
but
he
can't
get
the
system
to
arm
because
he
forgot
to
lock
the
front
door.
Well,
it's
good
for
him
to
know
that
he
needs
to
turn
around
and
lock
that
front
door.
So
that's
where
this
stuff
really
kind
of
comes
into
and
then
turning
you
know
controlling
lights,
especially
exterior
lights.
That's
usually
what
we
aim
for
in
security
is:
is
security
lights
and
I
love
using
it
for
trees.
B
Because
when
they
came
out
with
this,
they
came
out
with
an
inexpensive
interface,
and
if
you
don't
want
to
use
a
phone
you
can
you
can
get
an
iTouch
like
an
iTouch
like
you
were
bringing
up,
you
can
get
a
tablet,
you
don't
have
to
have
an
actual
cell
phone.
You
just
have
to
have
something
that
you
can
load
an
app
onto
so
that
way
you
can
control
it
right.
At
now.
There
you're
gonna
be
limited
to
your
Wi-Fi
networks,
but
you
can
do
it
anyplace.
B
Okay,
good
question,
so
the
z-wave
creates
what
they
call
a
mesh
network
and
the
idea
is
that
if
I
have
a
light
switch
over
there
and
a
light
switch
over
here
and
something
else
over
there
that
talks
to
that
and
that
talks
to
that
which
talks
to
this
one
and
about
35
feet
give
or
take
in
any
any
average
home.
You
get
about
35
feet,
including
going
through
walls.
B
Unless
you
have
a
Faraday
cage
home
like
my
customer
need
I
know
that's
old-fashioned,
lath
and
plaster,
and
they
have
that
metal
lath
in
the
wall
yeah
that
sucks.
But
that's
why
that
the
z-wave,
as
long
as
it
can
talk
to
one
other
device,
it
can
take
the
signal
and
relay
it
around
and
that's
why
I
said.
50
devices
is
kind
of
the
maximum
because
they
all
talk
to
one
another
and
generally,
and
that's
what
we'll
use
those
like
little
plugin
things.
B
Those
those
that
Leviton
piece-
that's
just
a
little
plug-in
module.
You
can
get
them
for
like
in
25,
30
bucks.
We
use
them,
but
we
use
them
for
boosters.
If
we
get
too
far
from
something
you
just
plug
one
of
these
suckers
in
a
wallet
halfway
in
between
and
you're
good
to,
go
so
and
then
Zig
B's
ZigBee
is
a
little
farther
because
of
the
art.
B
The
way
it
does
it's
designed,
but
you're
not
going
to
use
in
in
the
DIY
market,
you're,
basically
going
to
see
Wi-Fi,
Bluetooth
and
z-wave,
that's
the
stuff,
you're
gonna
see
ZigBee,
usually
gets
a
little
more
professional
or
if
somebody
that's
where
you
have-
and
that
was
the
other
reasons,
so
you
have
to
watch
as
more
companies
come
out
with
their
own.
You
know
all
of
a
sudden
I,
don't
know
I'll
just
make
up
a
name
also
and
you've
got
Samantha's
hub.
F
B
Ruku,
so
if
we're
talking
about
like
stuff
like
that,
ruku
is
a
delivery,
it's
just
a
delivery
device
to
your
TV,
so
you
have
Apple
TV,
Apple,
TV
and
ruku
are
probably
the
most
popular
and
you
can
load
apps
onto
those
devices
to
get
your
sling
TV,
your
Netflix
or
Hulu
any
type
of
streaming
service.
And/Or
Amma!
If
you
have
Amazon
you,
if
you
have
an
Amazon
account,
Amazon
Prime,
you
get
Amazon
TV,
and
so
those
are
used
on
the
fire
stick
and
in
and
Google
and
Apple
are
a
little
cranky
about
Amazon.
B
So
some
of
the
devices
you
can't
load
the
Amazon
app
on
but
ruku
you
can
load
just
anything
on
so
ruku.
You
can
load
anything
on
to
the
Apple
TV.
Some
of
some
of
the
Apple
TVs
won't
take
the
Amazon
fire
app
and
I.
Think
Google
got
a
little
some
of
the
Google's
stuff.
You
can't
like
chromecast
I,
carry
the
chromecast
with
me
and
I.
Don't
think
I
can
play.
F
B
Netflix
Hulu
any
of
those
are
monthly
services.
Netflix
is
what
ten
bucks
a
month.
I
think
Hulu
is
about
the
same.
Sling
TV
is
kind
of
cool.
If
your
card
cutters
you
can,
if
any
Twins
fans
besides
me,
you
got
to
be
able
to
get
Fox,
Sports
north
and
there's
only
a
couple
ways
to
get
Fox
Sports,
North,
others,
basically
cable
or
you
know,
pay
TV,
sling
TV.
You
can
get
Fox
Sports
north
for
in
their
thirty
dollar
package,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
big
deal
when
they
came
out
with
that.
B
Right,
and
so
that's
where
you
get
into
like
I
was
like
you
know,
so
the
least
secure
stuff
is
going
to
be
something
like
a
Chamberlain
garage
door.
Oh
you
know,
there's
Chamberlain
IQ
or
whatever
it
does,
because
Chamberlain
is
just
developing,
that
to
sell
garage
doors,
I
mean
that
that's
kind
of,
and
that's
what
we're
seeing,
but
the
hub's
tend
to
be
more
secure
because
you
know
that's
their
business
is
selling
the
hub's
and
then
so.
B
It's
kind
of
like
your
individual
devices
and
if
you
see
a
Wi-Fi
camera
for
20
bucks
at
Target,
yet
don't
get
it
because
the
security
on
those
things
there's
usually
horrendous.
If
you
see
the
news
articles
on
you
know
your
nightly
news
where
they've
hacked
cameras,
that's
what
they're
hacking
they're
hacking,
those
cheap
suckers,
you
get,
what
you
pay
for
and
if
it's
cheap,
it
just
means
they're
securities,
cheap.
D
B
No
and
I'm
saying
don't
buy
a
target
because
you
can
get
nest
at
Target.
It's
just
yeah.
You
can
get
nest,
I'm,
pretty
sure
you
can
get
nest
at
Target.
I.
Think
I've
seen
it
there,
but
you
can
buy
that
it
for
sure
at
Best
Buy
you
can
get
it
at
Best
Buy,
it's
just
the
more
you're
paying
for
the
device,
usually
the
more
the
better.
The
security
is
in
the
device.
So
and
that's
why
it
looks
like
with
all
my
security
stuff,
it's
Bank
level
encryption.
So
that's
pretty
serious
security.
B
So
I
know
when
I
install
a
Honeywell
panel.
I
know
what
encryption
they're
using
it's
serious
stuff.
It
I
for
somebody
to
hack
a
Honeywell
panel.
I
just
can't
see
it
happening
and
it's
pretty
serious
security.
But
when
you
do
these
standalone
things,
that's
where
you
get
into
kind
of
you
know
less
security.
B
It's
through
the
type
of
encryption
that
they're
dis,
whoever
is
doing
the
piece
is
using
or
however
they're
doing
their
because
you
don't
have
next
to
the
hatch.
I
have
to
have
encryption.
So
that's
why
I
said
these
Wi-Fi
cameras
that
are
really
cheap.
Those
are
the
ones
it's
like.
Yeah
I,
just
yeah,
it's
not
worth
it.
C
B
When
they're
going
out
to
the
cloud,
then
you're
relying
on
this
on
the
device
like
Winx,
however
they're
doing
it,
you're
relying
on
their
security
and
usually
the
the
usually
the
hub's
security-
is
actually
reasonably
good.
It's
not
to
the
level
of
the
security
industry
stuff,
because
that's
what
the
security
industry
is,
a
security,
so
Honeywell
GE
variant,
all
those
guys
they'd
and
they
don't
want
their
stuff
getting
hacked
because
that's
their
name
and
it's
security.
So
their
stuff
is
really
locked
down
the
hubs.
B
It's
still
not
bad,
but
it
just
depends
on
how
how
concerned
with
security.
You
are,
and
that's
why
I
like
I
said
on
the
professional
side.
All
of
our
smarts
are
in
the
box.
It's
not
going
out
to
the
cloud
it's
all
residing
in
the
Box
in
your
house,
and
so
it's
all
local.
It's
all
local,
it's
not
out
in
the
cloud.