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From YouTube: March 11, 2021 Bloomington Planning Commission Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota Planning Commission Meeting
A
A
A
All
right
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
march
11th
bloomington
planning,
commission
meeting
bloomington
planning
commission,
advises
the
city
council
on
development
proposals,
development
standards,
long-range
planning
and
transportation
issues.
Some
of
the
items
the
planning
commission
has
final
decision
authority
for
and
others
the
city
council
will
make.
The
final
decision
planning
commission
is
made
up
of
seven
volunteer
members
who
are
appointed
by
the
city
council
and
we
have
six
in
attendance
tonight
so
that
makes
a
quorum
tonight.
A
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all
all
right
now
before
we
begin
I'll.
Just
a
couple
reminders
on
our
public
process,
for
those
that
are
unfamiliar
so
typically
would
start
with
a
staff
report,
and
then
commission
members
would
ask
any
questions
after
that,
we'd
move
on
to
any
additional
items
that
the
applicant
may
have
to
share
and
then
we'd
move
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
hear
from
the
public.
A
If
there's
a
large
list
of
of
people
that
are
willing
to
speak,
we
tend
to
limit
that
time
frame
to
about
three
minutes
for
each
individual
to
be
able
to
speak
and
then,
if
they
aren't
completed,
they
go
to
the
back
of
the
line
and
begin
again
so
that
we
give
everybody
a
chance
to
speak
to
the
items.
But
before
we
begin
that
tonight,
mr
marker
guard,
would
you
like
to
provide
our
our
listeners
with
information
on
how
they
can
participate.
B
Yes,
mr
chair
tonight
is
our
22nd
remote
planning
commission
meeting
due
to
the
pandemic,
and
we
just
have
two
people
here
in
the
council
chambers.
All
the
other
planning,
commissioners
and
and
staff,
and
the
public
are
all
remote
joining
in
either
via
phone
or
via
webex,
but
we
can
definitely
still
take
public
testimony.
B
A
C
C
So
the
subject
property
is
9304
lindale
avenue
it's
known
as
the
dairy
queen.
I'm
sure
the
area
looks
quite
different
than
this
aerial
image.
The
surrounding
uses
include
a
multi-family
residential
development
currently
under
construction.
That's
to
the
south
and
auto
related
uses
to
the
north
and
across
glendale
avenue.
C
The
restaurant
has
closed
its
doors
in
november
2019
and
has
remained
vacant
to
this
day,
so
their
conditional
use
permit
expired
due
to
one
year
of
non-use,
so
this
cop
tonight
is
essentially
reapproving
for
lack
of
a
better
word
of
the
use.
The
new
operator
would
continue
the
use
as
a
dairy
queen,
like
all
with
all
other
conditional
use
permits.
C
We
must
review
compliance
with
code
requirements
since
the
2011
approval,
the
city
amended
new
standards
related
to
restaurants,
and
one
of
those
changes
was
with
the
parking
requirement
for
restaurants,
based
on
the
number
of
seats
that
were
identified
on
the
floor
plans.
The
parking
is
compliant
and
was
compliant
previously
as
well,
and
we
are
unaware
of
any
parking
related
concerns.
C
Additionally,
the
city
approved
the
multifamily
residential
property
directly
to
the
south
and
the
code
states
that,
if
a
drive
through
is
within
300
feet
of
a
residential
property,
the
drive-through
hours
and
speaker
noise
are
limited.
So
the
drive-through
speakers
must
not
produce
noise
over
75,
dba
and
the
drive-through
must
not
be
operated
between
the
hours
of
10
pm
and
6
a.m.
C
Additionally,
the
screening
must
be
provided
to
shield
vehicle
headlights
from
residential
view.
Currently,
there
is
some
landscaping
on
the
dairy
queen
side
and
a
proposed
retaining
wall
on
the
residential
side,
but
neither
would
qualify
to
meet
the
standards
and
the
screening
must
be
five
feet
tall.
So
the
applicant
must
provide
a
revised
plan
to
identify
the
type
of
screening.
C
So
that's
it
for
the
conditional
use
permit.
Moving
on
to
the
final
site
and
building
plan
application,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
208
square
foot
addition
centered
on
the
back
of
the
building.
The
expansion
would
be
used
as
a
trash
room
and
the
existing
trash
room
would
be
used
as
a
cake
decorating
area.
The
addition
meets
the
setback
and
height
requirements.
C
Here's
an
elevation
drawing
of
the
existing
building
and
proposed
edition
based
on
the
drawings
they
are
planning
on.
Rebuilding
the
existing
facade.
The
plans
show
the
existing
untouched
brick
would
be
painted,
which
is
not
allowed.
In
addition,
the
plans
identify
the
stucco
would
be
painted
and
the
code
does
not
allow
painted
stucco.
C
A
D
D
We
do
have
multiple
locations
in
multiple
states,
but
our
home
office
is
here
in
eden,
prairie
minnesota
and
we
also
own
many
dairy
queens
in
minnesota,
including,
I
believe,
another,
what
we
do
own
one
in
bloomington
too,
on
old
shakopee
road,
and
so
you
know
we
are
a
kind
of
experienced.
I
guess
you
could
say
franchisee,
you
know
with
this
particular
location.
D
D
You
know
we're
not
interested
in
in
having
our
drive-through
open
until
one
or
two,
but
we
do
stay
open
until
11
and
12
at
a
lot
of
other
locations,
and
so
that's
obviously
disappointing.
I
did
talk
with
liz
about
you
know
what
a
potential
variance
request
would
look
like
there
and
I
you
know
was
pretty
much
informed
that
that
would
likely
be
a
non-starter
as
rel
relates
to
the
screening.
D
I
guess
yes,
that's
just
kind
of
another
one
of
those
things
that
is
coming
with
the
territory.
With
respect
to
the
fact
that
the
the
dairy
queen
has
been
closed
for
over
a
year.
You
know
we're
happy
to
install
a
fence.
It's
just
you
know.
We
got
our
survey
back,
we're
looking
at
where
the
property
line
is
we're.
Looking
at
where
those
existing
trees
are
and
boy.
I
you
know,
we
don't
want
to
have
to
pull
out.
You
know
four
or
five,
really
nice
mature
trees
along
that
property
line
to
install
a
fence.
D
D
Again.
Liz
said
if
there
was
for
some
reason
unable
to
meet
with
that
requirement
again,
we'd
be
looking
at
a
variance
request
and
likely
another
six
weeks
out,
so
we're
hoping
that
we
can
make
it
work,
we're
trying
real
hard
on
our
hand
to
make
it
work
and
get
this
dairy
queen
back
open.
We've
made
some
significant
investments
in
time
on
our
end
so
yeah,
I
think.
D
As
you
know,
then
too,
as
it
re,
relates
to
the
to
the
addition
you
know
again,
I
think
liz
summarized
it
well
there.
It's
just
a
small
addition
that
we're
looking
to
add
on
to
the
building,
so
that
we
can
increase
just
a
little
bit
of
additional
square
footage
to
for
additional
cake
decorating
at
this
location.
E
A
A
F
B
A
D
A
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
too
I'm
supportive.
I
am
appreciative
of
the
owners,
concerns
and
frustrations
here.
However,
I
think
again,
some
of
those
would
not
have
been
the
case
that
had
been
continuously
operating,
and
so
those
are.
I
don't
need
to
sound
callous,
but
sometimes
you
get
lucky
and
sometimes
you
get
the
other
end
of
that
process.
So
I'm
supportive
of
this
application
and
if
no
other
comments
are
out
there,
I'd
be
happy
to
make
a
motion.
A
F
Okay,
all
right
in
case
pl
2021-2.
Having
been
able
to
make
the
required
findings,
I
moved
to
adopt
a
resolution
approving
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
re-establishment
of
a
restaurant
with
a
drive
through
an
outdoor
patio
at
9304,
lindale
avenue
south
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirement
attached
to
the
staff
report.
A
E
A
All
right,
we
now
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
adopt
a
resolution
approving
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
reestablishment
of
a
restaurant
with
a
drive
through
an
outdoor
patio
at
9304,
lindell
avenue
south
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report.
Any
further
discussion,
not
seeing
any
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
by
roll
call.
Commissioner
goldsman.
E
D
D
A
B
A
A
B
A
All
right,
commission
members,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
a
major
revision
to
final
site
and
building
plans
for
an
approximately
208
square
foot,
building
addition
onto
an
existing
restaurant
at
9304,
lindell
avenue
south
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
seeing
no
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
by
roll
call.
Commissioner
goldsman.
E
B
A
And
I
for
myself,
motion
passes
both
the
conditional
use
permit
and
the
final
sight
and
building
plan
are
final
decisions
unless
an
appeal
is
received
by
4
30
pm
on
march
16
2001..
Let
me
repeat
that,
because
there
are
two
items,
these
the
conditional
use,
permit
and
final
site
and
building
plans
for
dairy
queen
are
final
decisions.
Unless
an
appeal
is
received
by
4
30
on
march
16,
2021.,
all
right.
Moving
on
to
item
number
three
lindell
avenue
retrofit
retrofit
strategy,
adoption
staff,
member
julie
farnham
with
the
staff
report.
Please.
I
All
right
well
good
evening,
planning,
commission,
my
name
is
julie,
farnham,
I'm
a
senior
planner
with
the
city
and
I
am
joined
also
by
barb
wolf.
Who
was
the
project
manager
on
this
project,
so
she's
here
as
well
to
respond
to
questions
that
you
might
have
I'll
be
going
through.
I
want
to
provide
some
overview
of
the
whole
plan.
I
know
you
saw
this
in
january
and
not
much
has
changed,
but
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
for
the
public's
benefit.
I
So
let
me
just
get
a
few
things
off
of
my
screen,
so
I
can
see
so
to
start
with
just
a
a
quick
overview
of
what
is
the
retrofit
strategy,
so
it
this
strategy
is
really
a
plan
to
shape
the
future
of
the
lindale
corridor.
It
defines
a
vision
for
that
future
and
it
I
it
describes
some
core
principles
and
strategies
for
managing
growth
and
implement
implementation
guidance.
It
also
provides
some
more
specific
recommendations
on
some
redevelopment
areas.
I
This
project
began
back
in
2019,
late,
2019
and
really
the
first
year
plus
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
focusing
on
community
engagement,
because
that
was
a
key
thrust
of
this
plan,
and
some
of
you
may
have
been
involved
in
some
of
those.
We
had
a
couple
of
large
events
and
several
smaller
events
where
we
really
try
to
get
to
folks
in
the
community
from
schools
to
all
over.
You
know,
geographically
generally,
what
we've
heard
back
as
mostly
positive
an
encouragement
people
liked
the
vision
that
they
were
seeing.
I
I
I
However,
lindell
corridor
benefits
from
a
really
convenient
location,
there's
great
access
to
the
regional
transportation
system,
both
35
w
and
494.
On
the
north
end,
retail
is
another
area
where
the
trend
has
been
downward
or
or
shrinking
footprints
in
in
retail,
and
certainly
a
shift
towards
more
experiential
retail
like
restaurants
and
things
where
you
can
engage
and
the
conclusion
of
the
market
analysis
was
that
the
amount
of
retail
that
currently
exists
in
terms
of
square
footage
really
exceeds
what
the
analysis
demand
showed.
I
So
the
market
analysis
was
completed
about
a
year
ago,
so
it
was
done
before
the
pandemic
really
hit.
So
we
did
ask
the
consultant
to
just
weigh
in
on
what
their
thoughts
were
about
any
you
know
changes
as
a
result
of
the
market
analysis
and
for
the
most
part
they
said.
A
lot
of
the
trends
that
were
set
in
motion
prior
to
the
pandemic
will
remain
so
again.
I
Some
of
these
other
trends,
this
healthy
lifestyles
and
access
to
outdoor
spaces
and
nature.
We
all
know
that
being
able
to
get
to
outside
places
to
interact
has
been
really
important
over
this
last
year.
So
that's
a
trend
that
I
think
will
continue
moving
forward
and
then,
as
always,
there's
a
desire
for
housing
and
and
retail
and
and
services
that
are
affordable.
I
So
some
of
the
the
key
highlights
of
the
strategy
are
to
focus
really
on
two
key
nodes
and
that's
being
strategic
and,
and
so
the
two
keynotes
and
I'll
drill
down
into
some
of
these
things,
a
little
deeper
in
a
few
minutes,
but
86th
street
and
and
98th
street,
and
then
to
make
lindale
more
multimodal,
as
we
move
forward
again,
allowing
for
more
options
more
ways
to
get
around
not
and
not
focus
so
much
on
on
automobile
or
motor
vehicle
and
improving
the
appearance
of
the
corridor.
It's
it's
been
around
a
long
time.
I
One
of
the
great
things
about
this
corridor
is
it's
surrounded
by
a
very
stable
neighborhood
neighborhoods
that
have
been
around
for
a
long
time
and
and
there's
also
some
amenities,
there's
parks
and
and
recreation
facilities
in
these
surrounding
neighborhoods.
Within
you
know,
a
few
blocks,
or,
let's
say
a
half
mile
and
and
strengthening
the
connections
between
lindell
and
those
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
amenities,
is
really
important.
I
And
last
but
not
least,
we
heard
this
a
lot
in
the
community
engagement
is
that
how
people
feel
pretty
strongly
about
retaining
some
of
the
history
of
lindell?
Lindell
is
kind
of
the
often
viewed
as
the
historic
main
street
of
bloomington,
and
that
history
and
character
is
really
important
to
retain
that
moving
forward,
so
drilling
down
a
little
further.
So
the
the
keynote
strategy
and
again
the
whole
point
with
this,
was
to
be
strategic
and
to
really
identify
where
we
can.
I
I
If
you
look
at
the
map
there,
you
can
see
north
of
86
along
lindell
on
the
west
side
of
glendale,
it's
it's
all
residential
there
and
then
the
further
you
go
north.
It's
you
know
north
of
cub.
There
is
the
senior
housing,
and
you
know
it's
very
residential,
so
getting
more
residential
in
there
will
help,
as
I
mentioned
before,
to
support
some
of
the
retail
and
and
commercial
uses
that
are
in
there.
I
This
area
also
in
other
areas
along
lindell,
because
it
has
been
very
auto
oriented
and
still
is
and
also
industry
oriented.
There
is
pollution
throughout
this
this
corridor,
and
so
one
of
the
strategies
here
is
to
pursue
grants,
perhaps
to
conduct
some
brownfield
assessments
again
to
to
set
the
table
really
for
redevelopment.
I
Another
big
idea
here
is
to
likewise
do
a
feasibility
study
about
creating
a
regional
storm
water
facility,
and
that
would
be
the
other
idea
here
is
that
to
design
that
facility
so
that
it
could
also
serve
as
an
amenity
for
for
the
area.
You
can
see
here
the
number
four
it
looks
like
a
little
stream.
That's
that's
just
a
concept.
We
pretty
well
know
that
that's
not
large
enough
to
handle
the
flooding
that
this
area
that
this
area
is
subjected
to.
I
This
area
is
the
area
where
we
think
has
the
most
redevelopment
potential,
particularly
in
the
near
term,
and
that's
largely
due
to
the
transit
investments
that
are
happening
right
now.
I
think
you
all
know
that
the
at
the
metro
transit
station
there,
the
orange
line,
is,
is
slated
to
begin
operations
here
at
the
end
of
this
year.
So
so
it's
the
light
is
very
bright
at
the
end
of
that
tunnel
and
so
they're
working
on
that
station
right
now.
I
I
Back
with
that
stationary
plan,
we
did
follow
up
and
do
some
proactive
rezoning
of
the
properties
that,
above
the
intersection,
this
plan
is
suggesting.
We
take
that
the
next
step.
Further
and
again,
the
zoning
was
basically
from
b2
to
b4
in
large
part,
because
b4
allows
residential
and
b2
does
not,
and
the
key
to
this
node
is
to
to
make
it
a
true
transit,
oriented
development
type
of
node.
You
you
need
to
introduce
more
residential
in
this
area.
I
I
We
think
that
there's
opportunity
there
mainly
because
it's
a
very
large
site
when
it
redevelops
it
could
be
that
it
would
be
someplace
else
in
this
area
again,
these
these
are
concept
plans,
but
but
they're
setting
forth
ideas,
but
they
might
not
happen
exactly
the
way
these
these
plans.
Look
this
green
spine.
This
extension
of
aldridge
here
is
really
does
multiple
things
it
it.
It
creates
much
better
access.
It
breaks
up.
I
I
One
of
the
ideas
that
came
up
since
you
saw
this
in
january
was
to
include,
in
this
plan
the
idea
of
doing
a
pedestrian
overpass,
essentially
at
the
end
of
this
aldrich
extension
going
over
to
the
brt
station
and
by
having
it
in
the
plan
that
that
makes
it
easier
for
us
to
go
after
grants.
For
instance,
it
also
puts
the
adjacent
the
effective
property
owners.
I
I
So
that's
one
of
the
new
things
that
one
of
the
revisions
in
the
final
version
of
the
plan
so
there's
two
kind
of
quarter
wide
big
frameworks
that
were
talked
about.
One
of
them
was
mobility
and
essentially
that
that
focuses
on
making
the
lindell
corridor
more
of
a
complete
street
and
you've
probably
heard
the
term
complete
street
and
that's
really
trying
to
accommodate
multiple
modes
in
in
the
area
and
not
focus
again
solely
on
or
so
much
on,
automobiles,
so
improving
the
bicycle
facilities,
improving
pedestrian
facilities.
I
So
some
of
the
more
specific
ideas
one
was
to
put
in
a
a
bike
or
a
multimodal
path
along
lindell,
and
this
would
need
to
be
explored
further.
One
idea
is
to
test
it
using
a
kind
of
a
pilot
test.
That's
that's
one
idea.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
that,
but
that's
pilot
tests
are
a
way
to
maybe
try
something
out
without
without
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
changing
infrastructure,
changing
curbs,
etc
and
similarly
there's
a
fair
amount
of
what
are
called
slip
lanes.
I
Those
are
those
free
rides
where
you've
got
to
like
a
pork
chop,
al
island.
Those
work
really
great
for
keeping
the
the
traffic
flowing
quickly,
they're,
not
so
good
for
pedestrians,
because
it's
it
feels
very
unsafe
and
pedestrians
are
put
in
a
vulnerable
position
so
to
help
kind
of
calm
that
one
of
the
ideas
is
to
take
a
look
at
perhaps
closing
off
some
of
those
and
returning
that
space
to
pedestrian
space.
I
Again,
that
could
be
done
via
a
pilot
test.
It
could
be
done
in
a
more
traditional
manner
as
well
by
simply
having
a
traffic
study
done
and-
and
you
know
looking
at
where
the
counts
would
warrant
the
removal
of
a
flip
lane
and
then
some
other
things
are
more
opportunity
based
so,
for
instance,
widening
sidewalks.
I
some
of
the
strategies
here
are,
you
know
again
planting
trees
along
the
roadway,
that's
a
fairly
simple
thing
that
can
be
done
and
it
can
make
a
huge
difference.
I
am
a
big
advocate
of
boulevard
trees
because
they
bring
down
the
scale
of
of
a
big
road
like
like
glendale
if
you've
got
tall
trees
on
both
sides
of
it,
it
just
doesn't
feel
like
such
a
big
huge
street.
So
it's
really
important,
I
think,
to
to
plant
trees.
I
It
also
provides
shade
and
and
a
sense
of
protection
from
the
travel,
the
the
cars
traveling
on
the
road
to
those
using
the
sidewalks
and
trees,
of
course,
help
filter.
The
air
I
mentioned
before
about
the
connections
to
the
neighborhood
parks
and
also
another
idea
here,
is
that
you
know
we
live
in
a
four
season
environment
and
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that
when
we
design
our
places
so
that
it's
not
just
a
single
season,
fair
weather
kind
of
a
use
and
also
making
connections
to
the
minnesota
river
valley.
I
That's
arguably
one
of
the
city's
most
unique
assets
and
it's
less
than
a
mile
away
that
one
of
the
key
access
points
is
less
than
a
mile
away
from
the
end
of
this
study
area,
which
was
really
stopped
at
98
and
as
some
of
you
may
know,
just
this
last
fall.
The
first
segment
of
the
minnesota
valley,
state
trail
just
opened,
and
it's
accessed
off
of
glendale
and
heads
east.
I
That's
aimed
at
businesses
or
even
creating
a
special
service
district
in
in
the
area
and
some
of
these
kinds
of
outreach
efforts.
I
mean
we've
already
started
to
do.
Some
of
those
barb
in
fact
is
kind
of
spearheading.
There
were
some
long
programs
that
have
come
through
with
the
pandemic
and
and
she
and
some
other
staff
members
have
been
doing
some
outreach
with
the
small
business
owners
in
the
city,
and
so
you
can
kind
of
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone.
I
And
finally,
the
consultant
prepared
or
identified
a
a
lot
of
funding
strategies
and
the
plan
there's
a
big
table.
That
includes
a
laundry
list
of
different
strategies,
many
of
which
the
city
already
uses.
They
did
call
attention
to
a
couple
that
that
they
think
we
could
explore
some
more
I'm
doing
public-private
partnerships.
We
actually
do
do
that,
but
but
making
that
a
higher
priority.
I
And
then
there
was
this
thing
called
an
equi
geographic
equity
fund,
which
I
can't
really
speak
very
intelligently
about,
because
I
I
don't
fully
understand
it,
but
it's
a
little
bit
like
a
tiff
district,
and
I
do
know
that
there
have
been
some
follow-up
conversations
between
the
consultant
and
some
of
the
folks
at
the
city
who
are
who
deal
more
with
some
of
our
financial
tools.
And
so
this
is
something
that
we
might
want
to
explore.
Some
more
so
next
steps.
So
assuming
the
planning
commission
recommends
approval
of
this
plan.
I
This
would
move
forward
to
public
hearing
at
the
city
council
for
for
final
adoption
of
the
plan
and
that's
tentatively
scheduled
for
april
5th.
So,
concurrent
with
this-
and
I
failed
to
say
this
at
the
beginning
of
my
presentation-
there's
two
items
on
this
agenda
related
to
the
lindell
plan
and
one
is
the
plan
itself,
which
is
what
I've
been
talking
about
and
the
other
is
a
comprehensive
plan
amendment.
I
It's
basically
a
text
amendment
to
acknowledge
or
incorporate
a
description
of
this
plan
into
the
comp
plan,
and
it's
just
it's
a
formal
incorporation
of
the
of
the
plan
of
this
plan
into
the
comp
plan.
That's
a
whole
separate
process,
and
that's
why
it
was
a
separate
item
on
the
agenda.
I'm
kind
of
talking
about
these
and
I'll
talk
about
it.
Some
more
in
the
next
couple,
slides
and
I'll
have
two
motions
for
you
at
the
end
kind
of
like
the
previous
two
items.
I
Anyway,
some
of
the
next
steps
for
staff.
We
will
be
convening
a
small
group
of
of
internal
staff
to
start
looking
at
the
strategies
here
and
what
are
some
that
we
can
start
advancing
at
the
staff
level.
Just
as
I
just
mentioned,
you
know,
are
there
some
things
that
we're
doing
right
now
that
we
can
leverage
to
advance
some
of
the
recommendations
in
this
plan?
Also,
some
of
the
action
items
are
things
that
we
could
maybe
include
in
our
cip.
I
I
I
This
is
showing
you
the
list
of
who
the
comp
plan
amendment
notification
goes
to
and
the
yellow
are
the
ones
that
have
responded.
All
the
ones
that
we
have
responded
haven't
have
not
had
any
comments.
I
would
just
note
if
it
doesn't
look
like
we've
gotten
very
much
response.
That's
pretty
typical,
particularly
on
something
that's
happening
in
the
middle
of
a
city
and
it's
not
on
on
a
border
where
it
might
have
more
of
an
impact
on
a
surrounding
community.
I
A
lot
of
people
get
these
notices
and
they
just
say:
oh
it's
not
an
issue,
and
then
they
don't
reply.
So
this
is
actually
a
typical
response,
so
these
are
going
to
be
the
two
recommendations,
I'm
just
putting
these
up
here
and
then
I'll
just
so
that
you
know
that
and
and
then
at
this
point.
That
concludes
my
formal
presentation
and
I
can
stand
for
questions
and
then
also
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearings.
A
A
A
I
just
appreciate
the
comprehensive
nature
of
everything
that
you've
looked
at
in
this
beyond
transportation
to
the
housing
retail,
even
as
you
mentioned,
some
going
back
and
re-looking
at
covet
impacts
so
appreciate
the
work
on
that
and
at
this
point,
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing
for
the
lindale
avenue
retrofit
retrofit
strategy
adoption
and
for
the
comp
plan
text
amendment
for
the
lindell
avenue
retrofit
retrofit
strategy.
I
will
get
we'll
get
there,
mr
marker
guard.
Do
we
have
anybody
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
item.
D
D
D
D
D
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
will
take
your
question
into
consideration
and
we'll
likely
get
to
staff
to
see
if
that
was
something
that
was
addressed.
I
know
we
just
recently
had
a
transit
service
redirection
because
of
the
orange
line.
So
but
we
can,
we
can
get
more
into
detail.
Thank
you,
mr
hobb
appreciate
the
question.
Mr
pease.
Do
we
have
another
caller.
D
D
D
D
I'm
just
concerned
as
the
three
development
happens
that
some
of
these
businesses
or
these
practices
will
be
moved
and
they'll
no
longer
be
able
to
walk
to
go
to
these
places.
They'll
have
to
either
rely
on
the
buses
or
taxi
or
uber
to
get
to
some
of
the
places
that
I
can
walk
through
right
now.
I
also
have
a
comment
about
the
the
fly
lanes.
A
A
B
A
A
D
Okay,
caller
go
ahead,
state
your
name
and
spell
it
for
the
record
and
then
proceed.
Thank
you
michael
haddocks,
h-a-d-d-o-x
and
I
live
at
8,
300
lindale
and
it
seems
like
it's.
This
plan
is
going
to
start
from
98
to
86,
but
the
notice
I
received
they're
talking
about
494
up
to
98th
street
and
I
live
right
on
lindell
avenue
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
all
these
plans.
D
A
A
Both
public
hearings,
all
right,
we
have
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
Both
public
hearings
is
there
a
second
commissioner
albrecht
all
right.
Commission
members,
we
have
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing
for
the
lindell
avenue
retrofit
retrofit
strategy
adoption
and
a
motion
to
close
comp
plan
text.
Amendment
glendale
avenue
retrofit
strategy,
any
further
discussion,
not
seeing
any
all
those
in
favor
of
closing
both
public
hearings.
A
D
A
Commissioner
cookton
hi
and
I
for
myself
all
right.
Both
public
hearings
are
now
closed.
Commission
members,
we
had
a
couple
comments
there
from
the
public,
one
about
transit
service,
the
other
about
really.
How
does
the
the
process
change
and
what
happens
to
properties
along
the
corridor
as
part
of
this
plan
and
before
we
start
a
little
bit,
I
would
just
want
to
go
to
that
that
this
is
a
long-term
plan
for
the
corridor
and
nothing
is
proposed
to
be
changed
in
the
immediate
future.
A
It's
a
vision
for
the
corridor
and
so
to
that
point
of
transit
service.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
metro
transit
just
finished
a
transit
service,
a
redesignation
throughout
bloomington,
to
support
the
orange
line.
As
that
begins
service.
I
believe
late
21
early
22,
if
I
remember
correctly,
mr
marker
guard
and
so
transit
service,
as
always,
is
a
changing
to
meet
the
demands
of
the
public.
So
that
is
certainly
something
that
metro
transit
can
consider
regarding
just
the
simplicity
of
the
ability
of
our
second
caller.
A
Certainly,
the
americans
with
disabilities
act
will
drive
a
lot
of
our
discussions
on
improvements
in
the
corridor,
specifically
the
the
the
physical
attributes
and
and
how
to
accomplish
that.
But
I
think
there's
been
certainly
a
a
focus
by
this
planning
commission
and
I
think
the
city
to
make
sure
that
we
are
accommodating
all
users
in
our
planning
and
then
finally,
to
our
last
caller
that
lives
at
80
8300
lindale
again,
this
is
a
long
term
plan.
A
While
the
corridor
looked
at
the
entire
corridor
from
494
down
to
essentially
the
river,
it
is
focusing
on
those
nodes
of
86th
and
98th
as
the
initial
phases
and
so
again
as
a
long-term
vision.
We
don't
know
what
redevelopment
will
take
place
when
and
so
anything
that
would
move
forward
would
be
noticed
appropriately.
F
F
Trying
to
start
on,
maybe
we
can
build
on
that,
the
the
caller
who
talked
about
having
all
the
things
you
know
that
they
needed
near
them.
I
I
agree
with
them
and
that's
I
think
what
this,
although
it's
hard
to
see
with
these
watercolor
pictures,
that's
what
this
plan,
in
my
opinion,
seeks
to
expand
on
and
to
take
that
times,
ten,
so
more
people,
more
housing,
more
retail,
more
amenities,
and
so
I
think
all
the
things
that
I
heard
that
individual
speak
about
what
they
liked
about
the
area.
F
Now
I
hope
that
in
20
or
30
years,
when
this
comes
to
be,
I
don't
know
how
long
that
will
take
that.
It's
that
and
many
times
more,
but
I'm
very
supportive
of
this.
Having
worked
on
the
plan,
I
think
this
is
in
fitting
with
some
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
in
that
work
group
as
well.
So
I
support
it.
E
Goldsmith
thanks,
mr
chair.
I
also
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
for
this
work
and
and
being
involved
with
this
from
a
planning
commission
perspective
as
well
as
it
was
great
to
be
able
to
be
involved
as
an
employee
of
an
employer
that
is
on
the
lynndale
avenue
area,
and
it
was.
It
was
nice
to
see
the
level
of
engagement
with
the
residents
as
well
as
the
businesses
within
the
district
and-
and
I
think
the
consultants
did
a
really
good
job
of
understanding.
What
are
those
hidden
gems?
E
What
are
the
things
that
we
want
to
retain?
I
also
really
enjoyed
seeing
the
the
focus
on
culture
within
this
development
plan
and
trying
to
build
this
community
and
a
place
that
we
can
get
together
and
be
outside
or
be
in
shared
spaces,
so
that
we
could
build
that
community
together.
So
with
you
know
the
housing
coming
through
a
new,
the
you
know,
new
amenities,
new
parks.
E
I
think
that's
a
really
great
place
for
us
to
to
build
our
community
within
bloomington
for
cross
generations
and
then
cross
cultural
as
well.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
start.
I'm
excited
to
see
you
know
the
plans
further
and
then
maybe
start
seeing
those
buildings
and
those
developments
come
to
fruition.
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
too
is:
I
really
love
the
idea
of
a
bridge
over
98th
to
that
transit
station.
I've
walked
that
area
quite
a
bit
and
having
a
bridge
there
would
be
fantastic.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
a
couple
couple
thoughts
I
have
here
one
I
too
am
in
favor
of
the
pedestrian
bridge
connecting
to
the
transit
station.
I've
said
more
than
a
couple
times
that
I
used
to
be
a
daily
user
of
that
transit
station
and
almost
as
many
days
as
I
used
it,
I
saw
people
walking
across
98th
street
to
get
to
the
clover
center
and
that
is
not
safe,
and
I
very
much
appreciate
the
idea
of
getting
a
pedestrian
bridge.
There
certainly
recognize
the.
B
Of
it
not
saying
we
have
to
have
it,
but
certainly
like
the
idea
of
studying
it
understanding
what
the
financial
impacts
etc.
That
are,
I
think,
that's
a
good
idea
and
something
we
should
really
strongly
consider,
particularly
as
we
get
more
residential
across
98th
street
from
that
transit
station.
Speaking
of
that
transit
station.
Another
thing
I've
mentioned
before,
but
one
is
strongly
stated
again-
is
my
support
to
keep
route
597
at
the
south
burlington
transit
center,
recognizing
we're
getting
the
orange
line
for
more
frequent
service.
B
However,
people
should
know
that
the
orange
line
is
going
to
be
slower
than
the
current
route,
597,
not
a
lot
slower,
but
it
is
going
to
be
slower
and
so
for
a
daily
commuter
to
downtown
minneapolis.
That
is
a
reduction
in
service
that
they
have
today,
and
I
am
not
in
favor
of
that,
and
especially
as
we're
talking
about
more
residential
and
making
this
transit
oriented
development.
B
B
These
type
of
details
are
really
important
that
if
we
can
get
597
express
bus
service
from
to
downtown
minneapolis
from
south
burlington,
that
is
a
significant
deal
for
folks
who
work
downtown.
When
I
worked
downtown
and
was
looking
for
an
apartment
some
number
of
years
ago,
that
was
one
of
the
major
things
I
was
looking
for
was.
How
quickly
can
I
get
downtown
from
bloomington
or
some.
A
B
B
Maybe
you
know
a
few
buses
in
the
morning
few
buses
in
the
night,
whatever
it
is,
but
being
able
to
keep
route
597
is
is
important
to
me
to
try
to
sell
this
neighborhood
and
focus
in
on
and
spurring
that
development.
That
said,
I'm
very
supportive
of
everything
we're
seeing
here.
I
lived
in
or
near
this
neighborhood
for
many
years
as
I
after
I
graduated
from
college,
and
I
loved
it,
and
everything
I'm
seeing
here
would
make
me
love
it
even
more.
B
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
first
again
want
to
thank
thank
staff
and
the
consultants
who
worked
on
this
plan.
I
am
in
support
of
adopting
this
plan.
One
thing
I
would
love
to
see
in
the
coming
months
years
is
for
this
plan
to
be
achieved.
The
visions
in
this
plan
that
the
city
takes
an
active
role
in
marketing
and
encouraging
developments
to
come
through
and
by
attracting
developers
and
develop
community
investments.
G
I
just
hope
that
the
city
takes
an
active
role
and
not
sit
on
the
plan
and
sits
on
a
shelf,
but
that
we
are
actively
promoting
through
investment
and
also
leniency,
and
some
of
the
approvals
that
we
can
be
doing
to
encourage
more
development
on
the
corridor,
but
also
not
forgetting
the
small
businesses
that
we
currently
have
on
the
corridor.
So,
thank
you.
A
A
A
I
can
think
back
to
when
I
first
moved
to
the
twin
cities
a
little
over
20
years
ago
and
coming
down
that
north
end
of
lindale
boulevard
and
thinking.
Oh,
this
is
what
the
city
says,
and
even
that
has
changed
quite
a
bit
now,
and
I
can
only
imagine
20
25
years
from
now
what
this
might
look
like
and
how
people
really
will
appreciate
this
vision
that
was
laid
out
all
right.
Commissioner
roman,
you
have
comments.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
had
one
thing
building
off
of
what
commissioner
abdi
started
and
you
continued
on
is
you
know,
and
it
is
about
the
act,
the
ability
of
small
businesses
to
be
able
to
establish
themselves-
and
you
know,
we've
done
some
good
work
on
with
the
opportunity
housing
ordinance
about,
as
some
of
these
larger
developments
take
place,
how
how
we
incentivize,
affordable
housing
in
these,
and,
in
my
experience,
these
types
of
developments
are
are
expensive
and
but
that's
okay,
that
they're
expensive,
but
then
sometimes
the
ground
level,
retail.
F
The
only
people
who
can
afford
that
are
your
larger
business
chains
or
corporations
with
deeper
pockets,
and
so
not
for
this
discussion
of
sailor
for
solving
today.
But
you
know,
hopefully
our
city
staff
and
other
departments
have
maybe
started
chewing
on
some
ways
to
figure
out
how
to
be
able
to
foster
small
businesses.
Diverse
businesses
create
opportunities
for
some
of
our
new
americans
to
be
able
to
start
these
things
again.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
roman
and
yeah
absolutely
would
echo
that.
Hopefully
we
can
think
about
that
with
our
our
city,
council
and
staff,
for
the
future
of
how
do
you
really
get
those
those
local
businesses
to
be
able
to
be
competitive
in
any
potential
new
developments?
So,
yes,
thank
you
appreciate
that
comment
all
right,
any
other
commissioners
that
want
to
speak
on
either
of
these
two
items,
the
the
strategy
or
the
text
amendment.
G
A
E
A
E
A
G
A
All
right,
commissioner
members,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
recommend
approval
of
the
comprehensive
plan
text
amendment
to
incorporate
the
description
of
the
lindell
avenue,
suburban
retrofit
strategy
into
section
2.6
of
the
land
use
element,
as
provided
in
the
staff
report.
Is
there
any
further
discussion,
not
seeing
any
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
by
roll
call?
Commissioner
goldsman.
E
D
A
Commissioner
cookton
all
right
and
I
for
myself
all
right.
Both
those
motion
passes
for
item
three
and
four
lindell
avenue
retrofit
strategy.
Adoption
will
move
to
the
city
council
on
april
5th
2021
and
the
comp
plan
text
amendment
for
the
lindale
avenue.
Retrofit
strategy
will
also
move
forward
to
the
city
council,
on
april
5th
of
2021
all
right.
Moving
on
to
item
number,
five
self
storage
facilities
standards
and
remove
moratorium.
A
J
D
J
J
J
J
J
Same
is
said
for
younger
adults
that
maybe
aren't
in
a
permanent
living
situation.
You
know
they
might
be
new
to
their
jobs
or
in
school
kind
of
living
in
a
different
location
from
one
year
to
the
next.
You
know
it's
more
and
more
common
that
they
may
not
be
sure
if
they're
living
in
this
city-
or
you
know
across
the
country
from
one
year
to
the
next.
So
it's
nice
to
have
self
storage
just
to
put
everything
aside
for
a
while,
and
then
you
get
it
when
you
need
it
next.
J
So
while
we
do
have
a
significant
population
of
the
you
know
of
those
two
demographics
in
the
city,
we
certainly
have
a
lot
of
self-storage
and
likely
more
than
meets
the
need
in
the
city
today
and
there's
concern
that
bloomington
is
absorbing.
You
know
a
disproportionate
share
of
these
storage
facilities
compared
to
elsewhere
in
the
metro-
and
this
is
kind
of
evidenced
too,
by
where
we
allow
self-storage.
J
J
J
J
So
the
zoning
study
that
staff
conducted
last
year
identified
three
primary
issues
associated
with
this
use,
so
I'll
touch
on
each
of
these
briefly,
but
the
the
market
saturation
issue,
it's
a
little
bit
more
overarching
and
at
first
glance
it
doesn't
sound
that
bad.
You
know
if,
if
we
have
a
use,
that's
meeting
a
demand
and
it's
contributing
to
that
tax
base.
That
sounds
like
a
good
thing.
J
However,
you
know
in
general,
too
much
of
one
use
can
be
a
cause
for
concern.
For
instance,
self
storage
ever
became
less
popular.
If
demand
went
down,
you
know
the
city
might
be
left
with
underused
buildings.
If
the
facility
was
to
leave
these
buildings
can
be
difficult.
Its
staff
has
concerns
that
the
buildings
would
be
difficult
to
reuse.
J
J
J
I
wouldn't
know
you
know:
market
saturation
is
addressed
by
limiting
the
available
areas
for
new
self-storage
facility,
whereas
the
other
two
issues
are
a
little
bit
more
directly
targeted
with
these
proposed
code
amendments,
but
what's
proposed,
you
know
we
keep
the
zoning
districts
today,
but
allow
self
storage
they
would
continue
to
allow
it
as
a
conditional
use,
but
we'd
really
target
where
self
storage
would
be
allowed
within
those
districts.
So
we
look
to
prohibit
the
use
within
a
half
mile
of
transit
stations.
J
We'd
also
prohibit
within
protected
industrial
areas,
adjacent
to
lindell
avenue
and
also
prohibit
within
500
feet
of
residential
properties.
I'll
look
at
maps
here
in
a
minute,
so
the
private
station
areas
are
shown
in
red.
On
the
map
note,
the
intent,
as
I
mentioned
in
these
areas,
is
to
really
accommodate
more
activity,
more
opportunities
for
work
and
living
or
people
coming
and
going
the
self
storage
facility.
J
J
J
Soon
so
the
next
proposed
standard
is
to
prohibit
in
protected
industrial
areas,
that's
shown
as
the
red
hatched
area,
so
these
areas
are
really
intended,
as
described
in
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
for
more
of
our
traditional
industrial
uses.
So
those
are
uses
that
you
know
deal
with
production
of
something
with
you
know,
distribution
of
a
good.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
So
staff
did
mail
a
letter
a
couple
times
to
the
same
group.
It
was
just
under
300
property
owners
of
industrially
zoned
land,
so
everyone
impacted
by
this
ordinance.
We
first
mailed
the
letter
to
as
a
heads-up
about
the
moratorium
and
then
again
more
recently
in
january,
about
this
ordinance
and
the
proposed
standards.
J
I
did
answer
a
few
calls
from
property
owners.
You
know
they
mostly
calls
about
clarifying.
You
know
what
self
storage
is
the
fact
that
it's
completely
separate
from
outdoor
storage?
That's
a
different
thing,
and
they
just
wanted
to
be
made
aware
and
appreciated
that
I
did
speak
to
two
self
storage
facility
owners
as
well,
and
they
were
mostly
interested
in
what
the
non-conforming
status
meant,
but
they
really
didn't
have
any
concerns.
J
J
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
james,
following
up
on
commissioner
boltzmann's
last
question
with
the
slide
you
have
up
here,
I
believe
the
number
10
is
the
number
of
of
parcels
you
have
highlighted
there
and
I'm
assuming
that
does
not
take
into
account
the
existing
usage
on
those
sites.
Presumably
imagine
all
10
of
those
have
an
existing
usage
on
them.
J
J
However,
many
of
them
are
too
small
to
accommodate
a
self-storage
facility
and
they
would
need
to
be
combined.
So
that's
an
another
obstacle
if,
if
a
new
facility
was
to,
you
know,
combine
parcels
in
order
to
locate
somewhere,
but
it's
happens
all
the
time
with
redevelopment
and
it's
not
outside
the
realm
of
possibility
and
yeah.
The
the
ten
number
I
cited
again
was
highly
speculative
there's
a
handful
of
those
sites.
You
know
maybe
half
that
are
not
likely
to
redevelop
just
given
the
long-standing
property
owners
we've
had
in
some
of
these
locations.
A
A
J
F
A
All
right,
we
have
motion
close
public
hearing.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
albrecht
all
right?
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
close
the
public
hearing
any
further
discussion,
not
seeing
any
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
by
roll
call.
Commissioner
goltzman
hi,
commissioner
roman
aye,
commissioner
albrecht
aye.
D
A
D
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
trying
to
clarify
a
little
bit
here.
What
our
role
is
tonight-
and
perhaps
this
is
a
question
for
mr
james
or
mr
mark
regard-
we've
we've
seen
this
before,
and
we
proposed
some
amended
language
to
this
ordinance
that
went
to
city
council
and
they
did
not
take
our
recommendation
and
went
with
the
language
that
staff
had
recommended,
and
so
our
role
tonight
are,
we
again
being
asked
to
provide,
let's
say,
for
instance,
we
continue
to
feel
the
same
way.
We
did
last
time
we
saw
this.
B
A
A
Certainly
the
planning
commission
again
has
made
recommendations
in
the
past
on
this
item
to
city
council
city
council
debated
it
as
well
and
preferred
maybe
something
different
than
planning
commission.
So
it's
back
to
us
to
move
forward
with
an
item.
The
planning
commission
does
have
the
ability
to
adjust
the
recommendation
as
as
they
see
fit
and
provide
that
recommendation
to
city
council.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
a
follow-up.
That's
related.
The
question
is:
what
does
a
no
vote
mean
in
this
case?
So
if
we
vote,
if
we
recommend
that
the
city
council
does
not
adopt
this
language,
what
happens
then?
Does
the
moratorium
stay
in
place?
Does
it
end?
Do
we
go
back
to
the
existing
language?
That's
in
the
code
today
or
what
does
a
recommendation
of
no
mean
for
this
item.
A
B
H
I
think
I
mentioned
this
before
I
I
said
this
before,
which
was
this
is
effectively
a
moratorium
extension.
I
really
believe
that
I
think
that,
and
that
is
fine.
If
that's
their
direction
in
which
we're
going,
that
we
want
to
have
a
moratorium
on
self-storage
units
or
facilities,
then
I
think
that's
okay,
but
I
also
think
that
there
is
some
middle
ground
here
and
I
believe
that
the
recommendation
of
250
feet
was
a
good
one
by
this
planning
commission,
and
I
would
support
suggesting
that
again.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
yeah.
I
think
that
you
know
we've
been
at
least
some
of
us
have
been
in
this
situation
before
you
know,
I
think
in
some
situations
it
came
back
later
that
people
came
around
to
our
thinking,
I
think
of
rvs.
For
example,
it
just
took
us
a
while
to
get
there.
I
do.
I
do
with
commissioner
albrecht
that
I
think
this
is,
in
my
opinion,
too
restrictive.
E
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
would
completely
agree
with
commissioner
roman's
comments.
We've
we've
gone
back
and
forth
on
some
of
these
before
we've
made
comments
before,
and
I
can't
remember
that
far
back
to
december
of
what
exactly
we
modified,
but
I
I
think
to
keep
it
simple
and
a
nay
on
this,
because
it
is,
is
preventing
it's
it's
prohibiting
it
without
saying
it's
prevent
or
prohibited,
so
either
have
a
much
moratorium
there
or
be
more
flexible.
G
F
G
The
other
comment
I
have
is
I'm,
I
think
one
of
my
main
concerns
originally
when
this
came
before
us
was
why
not
just
cap
it
and
be
done
with
it
like
have
a
certain
number
of
what
would
be
allowed
in
the
city
of
bloomington
and
then
just
if
we
meet
that
quote,
then
we
just
know
that
we
cannot
entertain
more
applications.
I
do
agree
with
commissioner
ronan
that
creating
non-conforming
uses
might
be
more
hurtful.
Should
a
change
be
proposed
by
any
of
these
applications.
G
We
are
creating
undo
unnecessary
application
processes
for
the
existing
legal
uses
that
are
currently
functioning.
Unless
we're
going
to
be
waiving
the
process
for
those
uses,
should
they
plan
to
change
something,
then
I
would
be
okay
with
it.
I
am
overall
in
support
of
prohibiting
the
proposed
prohibition.
The
only
thing
I
would
be
opposed
to
is
the
the
non-conformity
that
would
be
created
as
a
result
of
this,
and
we
have
only
seven
or
we
have
seven
of
the
whatever
number
total.
G
So
I'm
I
don't
know
yet
sorry,
I
don't
know
if
that's
any
clear
plan,
but
I'm
just
struggling
primarily
with
the
implications
of
what
it
would
mean
and
we're
not
getting
in
into
remedying
what
that
would
what
remediation
would
look
like
for
or
if
these
existing
uses
are
aware
that
they
would
become
non-conforming
and
if
they
have
a
say
in
it,
if
they
understood
that
they
might
be
in
this
meeting
today.
Talking
about
how
that
would
be
a
challenge
or
undue
harm
to
their
business
or
the
growth
of
their
business.
A
H
B
It
seems
like
the
the
night
of
saying
things
I've
said
before,
but
I'm
going
to
go
for
one
more
time
and
that
this
moratorium
last
year
was
put
in
place
without
going
before
the
planning
commission
first-
and
I
I
believe,
that's
allowed
by
the
city
charter,
but
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
means
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
so
it's
my
strong
opinion
that
moving
forward
planning
related
moratoriums
should
come
before
the
planning
commission
before
they.
They
are
considered
by
city
council
formally.
B
So
I'm
going
to
state
that
again
moving
to
the
application
itself.
I
too
am
struggling
with
this
and
I'll
just
echo
whatever
you
want.
Other
commissioners
have
said
it's
like
we're
effectively
saying
you
can't
do
it
without
saying
you
can't
do
it,
and
so
I'm
not
in
favor
of
that
and
I'll
take
it
one
step
further.
D
B
Say
that
I'm
not
in
favor
of
restricting
this
use
as
a
concept,
I
know
we
have
saturated
the
market
already
with
cell
storage
facilities,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
bother
me,
the
city
of
bloomington
saturates,
the
market
on
a
lot
of
things,
hospitality,
retail,
suburban
office
space.
You
know
we
are
not
unaccustomed
to
centering
the
market
on
things
and
self
storage
is
another
one
and
it
doesn't
bother.
You
we're
a
busy,
dense,
suburban
city
and
I'm
in
support
of
continuing
to
allow
self
storage
in
the
right
places
with
the
right
standards.
B
So
I
think
where
I'm
sort
of
at
here
is
what
we
should
if
the
planning
commission
is
trending
in
the
same
direction,
which
it
seems
like
it
may
be.
The
question
for
me
is
whether
we
reject
this
ordinance
outright
or
whether
we
propose
amended
language.
What
what
do
we
feel
is
more
effective
to
sending
that
message
to
city
council
to
say
we're
completely,
not
in
favor
of
this
or
do
we
try
to
craft
some
language
to
be
more
creative
or
something
something
nicer
than
just
saying?
No,
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
A
A
A
I
I
don't
think
it
is,
but
I
still
think
in
the
appropriate
locations
near
that
it
could
serve
what
we
hope
to
be
the
additional
residential
that
will
be
along
that
corridor
and
and
potentially
businesses
along
that
corridor
and
to
your
point,
commissioner,
cooked
on
what
might
be
better.
I
would
just
add
all
this
is
really
part
of
the
record
for
the
city
council
to
understand
our
discussion
and
so
whether
that's
amending
the
recommendation
or
maybe
something
different,
that's
part
of
the
record.
A
H
H
H
I
think
that
that's
for
me,
that's
a
stretch
only
because
if
you
even
look
at
where
the
self
storage
facilities
are,
you
could
live
in
richfield
and
have
a
self-storage
unit.
So
I
just
don't
think
that
that's
a
comp.
If
that's
I,
I
understand
why
that
that
was
presented,
but
I
would
encourage
staff
not
to
to
use
that
comparison,
because
I
do
believe
I
mean
I
grew
up.
Yes,
we
have
us,
we
had
a
self
storage
unit
in
inver
grove
heights
and
I
lived
in
south
minneapolis
like
it.
H
H
I
think
anything
that
we're
creating
non-conforming
uses
where
we're
going
to
have
a
headache
coming
in
to
the
planning
commission
for
an
applicant
is
probably
not
a
sound
decision,
so
I
mean,
based
on
the
slide
in
front
of
us.
Maybe
even
250
feet
is
not
the
right
direction
to
go
either
if
we're
still
creating
six
non-conforming
uses.
A
B
B
I
think
98th
street
node
and
86th
street
node
identified
in
items
three
and
four
tonight
makes
sense
to
restrict
it
in
those
areas,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
lindale
left
between
those
nodes
and
outside
of
those
nodes
that
maybe
isn't
such
a
terrible
place
for
self
storage.
If
it's
done
the
right
way,
maybe
it's
increased
architectural
standards.
Maybe
it's
other
things,
there's
a
lot
of
glendale
avenue
and
there's
a
lot
of
lindell
avenue.
B
Frankly,
that
could
stand
to
be
redeveloped
and
I
think
a
well
done
self
storage
facility
could
would
be
an
upgrade
over
many
things
we
currently
have
on
lindale
if
it's
done
the
right
way,
and
so
the
other
thing
you
know,
as
we
talked
about
during
items
three
and
four
is
that
development
is
not
going
to
happen
overnight.
You
know
the
vision
for
lindell
avenue
is
not
going
to
happen
overnight.
We
have
10
20
25
years
before
we're.
You
know
filling.
A
J
G
In
this
scenario,
if
I
were
to
propose
a
new
self
storage
facility,
if
it
hits
on
a
transit
area,
it
is
well
if
it's
existing
any
of
these
existing
if
it's
located
in
a
transit
area
or
it
is
in
a
protected
industrial
area
or
it
is
within
500
or
250
feet
from
a
residential
area.
Any
of
those
bullet
points
that
I
just
mentioned
right
now
would
make
it
a
non-conforming,
correct
or
any
of
the
listed
prohibited
points
would
make
a
an
existing
self-storage
facility
non-conforming.
Is
that
correct?
G
That's
correct,
I'm
personally
for
prohibiting
it
on
lindell
avenue,
regardless
of
what
street
it
is.
I
think
there
is
a
greater
vision
for
lindell
to
become
a
you
know
what
it
can
be,
considering
that
there
is
no
capping
of
on
resident
cell
storage
facilities.
I
am
worried
that
if
development
in
the
corridor
does
not
pick
up
as
fast
as
we
would
like
it
to
be
that
we
would
see
more
cell
storage
popping
up
on
the
corridor,
considering
that
we
do
not
have
a
capping
considered,
but
we
do
have
a
prohibition
list.
G
Self-Storage
facilities
should
be.
You
know
this
distance
away
from
each
other,
so
my
only
concern
would
be
one
continued
concentration
into
you
know,
taking
space
away
from
the
corridor
to
allow
for
possible
growth
on
the
corridor.
So
I
don't
think
regardless
of
design
of
the
building.
I
do
believe
that
it's
it's
a
use
that
does
not
encourage
everyday
activity
from
the
community.
It's
it's
a
use
that
stores
it's
a
box
essentially
where
you
have
concentration
of
just
stuff,
stored
from
residents
of
bloomington
and
sometimes
outside
of
residence
of
bloomington.
G
So
I
don't
find
it
an
appealing
use
to
have
on
lindale
avenue,
considering
that
we
we
just
adopted
that
point,
so
I'm
also
fine
with
500.
My
only
concern
is:
are
we
intentionally
creating
non-conforming
uses
that
would
result
in
these
existing
conforming
uses
to
come
back
to
the
board
anytime?
They
want
to
make
a
change.
Are
we
creating
undo
harm
to
some
extent
for
existing
lawfully
existing
businesses
when
it's
not
necessary?
So
my
comments
might
be
mushy,
but
I
am
still
practicing
but
yeah.
E
E
E
I
do
like
the
250
feet
from
residential.
Obviously
I
think
some
of
the
the
concerns
is
the
lighting
and
traffic
around
those
types
of
facilities,
because
they
are
24-hour
facilities
and
and
the
lights
can
be
quite
bright.
I
know
on
pin
avenue.
I
see
that
one
as
well,
so
I
struggle
with
this
one,
but
I
I
want
to
protect
the
lindale
avenue
area
just
from
a
vision
as
well.
F
You,
mr
chair,
looking
at
these
slides
again
and
like
somewhere,
I
didn't
process
the
difference
between
this
and
the
other
one.
This
one
still
created
six
non-conforming
facilities
versus
seven,
so
some
reason
I
thought
that
number
was
significantly
different,
so
that
doesn't
doesn't
ease
my
concern
on
that
at
all.
But
listening
to
the
group
here,
you
know
I
know
I
said
earlier
that
you
know
we
never
wanted
to
get
into
a
back
and
forth
and
saying
no,
maybe
better
than
nuancing
it.
F
A
F
I
agree
with
commissioner
cookton
that
better
is
better
than
what
we
have
in
many
areas,
but
I
also
know
that
you
know
these
once
you
build
something
new.
It's
not
gonna
go
away
in
10
years.
This
type
of
use
is
pretty
durable
and
not
a
high
wear
kind
of
a
thing.
So
I
too
would
support
sticking,
probably
with
the
lindeal,
given
that
the
council
felt
strongly
about
that.
F
A
I
know
that's
been
proposed
in
other
locations
where
garages
or
or
parking
garages
and
those
things
have
to
provide
that
demonstration
of
how
they
could
reuter
reutilize
the
facility.
Because,
again
to
I
think,
commissioner
abdi's
comment.
It's
a
big
box,
but
I
think
on
the
other
side.
In
the
meantime,
a
30-year
use
of
a
three-story
building
that
has
ground
level
retail
to
sell
supplies
that
might
be
utilized
in
the
neighborhood
that
doesn't
drive
a
lot
of
traffic
necessarily
on
a
daily
basis.
A
I
I'm
not
wed
to
that
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
It's
just
a
thought
I
have
in
the
idea
of
of
our
landscape
is
ever
changing.
So
I
could
support
what
you
just
said,
commissioner.
Roman,
about
in
in
an
effort
to
strike
compromise
is
to
say
yes,
we
agree
with
the
lindale,
but
250
feet
we
think
is
sufficient
from
residential
as
well
so
I'll.
Just
on
the
record
for
that,
commissioner
albert.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
want
to
go
back
to
commissioner
abdi's
remark
about
not
tapping
and
I
just
the
question
is:
can
we
then
can
we
not
tap?
Is
that
not?
Is
that
a
thing
can
we
do?
That?
Is
that
awesome
and
because
I
think
capping
then
doesn't
create
these
non-conforming
properties
and
that
I
I
can.
I
am
with
you
on
the
two,
I'm
I'm
with
others
on
the
250
feet.
H
A
B
J
B
Thank
you,
mr
james,
mr
chair.
For
me,
it's
just
not
enough.
I
I
I
don't
think
I
can
support
that.
Okay,
although
I
do
I
want
to
say,
I
do
appreciate
the
thought
behind
restricting
wendell.
We
did
just
pass
a
vision
for
that
corridor,
which
I
support
strongly,
and
I
I
certainly
do
appreciate
the
idea
of
of
of
of
limiting
it
on
window.
I
too
do
not
want
to
see
lindale
get
eaten
up
by
20
self
storage
facilities.
I
G
B
A
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
cook
done
and
it
you
know.
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
think
about
now
too
is
we
got
our
minimum
floor
area
ratio
and,
of
course,
that's
kind
of
built.
These
larger
facilities,
although
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
market
for
smaller
storage
facilities,
because
I
mean
if
it
were
a
smaller
facility-
would
that
maybe
be
something
that
would
fit
more
in
with
lindale,
because
if
I
recall
correctly,
there
was
some
discussion
even
after
we
passed
the
the
the
latest
facility
on
lindale.
A
E
F
A
F
F
You
know
if
a
lot
is
at
least
a
certain
size,
it
must
have
outdoor
rv
storage
or
if
it's
in
certain
areas,
such
as
lindale
ground,
floor
needs
to
be
other
retail
and
self
storage
is
on
upper
floors
or
fifty
percent
of
the
back
of
making
these
numbers
up,
but
is
there
a
way
that
you
make
it
yes
and
without
completely
prohibiting?
These
are
just
not
again
not
things
that
we
can
solve
tonight,
but
maybe
it
spurs
our
like.
F
A
Yep,
thank
you,
commissioner
roman
yeah.
I
think
that's
the
you're
you're,
hitting
on
those
points
that
I'm
thinking
about
is
we
have
the
opportunity
within
the
ordinance
to
allow
certain
things,
and
then
we
have
these
abilities
within
our
design,
standards
and
and
others
to
say.
Okay,
yes,
it's
allowed,
but
with
these
can
these
other
additional
items,
if
you
really
think
it's
appropriate
in
this
location,
so
you
know
again
we're
not
going
to
solve
that
tonight.
So
we're
back
to
and
I'll
try
and
bring
us
back
to.
A
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
comment
on
what
you
just
said,
which
brings
me
back
to
the
proposal
that
we
saw
earlier
today,
which
was
just
a
little
trash
room
added
to
an
existing
building,
and
these
folks
though
they
may
not
be
thinking
about
it.
Now
they
may
want
to
do
that
and
then
what
do
we
do
in
that
circumstance?
H
E
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
think
we
there's
just
so
many
open
questions
as
well
as
discussions
here
in
either
of
the
proposals,
our
original
proposal
and
the
one
that's
in
front
of
us
right
now
to
support
either
of
those.
I
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable,
because
there
are
so
many
open
questions,
and
so
many
open
concerns
from
from
the
other
commissioners
and
myself
so
right
now,
I
just
don't
feel
comfortable
supporting
it
in
either
direction,
just
because
there's
just
so
much
outstanding
and
open
thanks.
A
A
J
A
J
A
A
Do
we
continue
discussion
to
kind
of
flavor
what
staff
may
be
asked
to
work
with
the
city
council
on
to
get
to
a
actual
ordinance,
or
do
we
just
at
this
point,
understand
that
we've
made
our
recommendation
to
city
council
and
they
can
they
can
move
with
it
or
if
they
decide
they
like
some
of
the
things
that
we've
said
but
needs
more
time.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
understanding
the
second
and
third
order
effects
of
any
decision
we
make
tonight.
B
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
mark
regard.
I
appreciate
the
information
now
I
do
think
we
had
a
question
from
commissioner
albrecht
that
we
didn't
get
to
for
mr
marker
guard
and
I
I
I'm
looking
at
you
shaking
your
head
a
little
bit
because
I
don't
quite
remember
either,
but
if
you
remember
what
that
was,
that
would
be
great.
So
I'm
gonna
go
to
some
of
the
other
commissioners
here,
while
they're
popping
up
left
and
right.
Commissioner
roman.
G
J
G
Yes,
I
was
just
trying
to
determine
if
there's
a
high
demand
or
a
long
list
of
laundry
of
potential
self-storage
facility
people
interested
in
getting
one
in
in
bloomington.
You
know
that
would
be
would
take
into
would
be
taken
into
consideration.
If
they're,
you
know
what
could
be
done
with
whatever
it
is
that
we're
considering
right
now.
Thank
you.
F
Mr
chair,
you
know
what
I'm
struggling
with
here
is.
I
think
we
have
a.
We
have
an
idea,
a
rough
idea,
a
sort
of
a
hazy
vision.
We
know
it's
different
than
the
council.
I
would
not
want
to
send
staff
on
a
mission
to
draft
something
up
that
isn't
going
to
come
to
fruition.
That's
that's!
I
would.
I
want
to
be
very
respectful
of
their
skills,
their
talents
and
their
time.
F
So
you
know
one
potential
again.
I'm
turning
this
out
as
a
potential
path
forward
is.
If
we
go
back
to
our
previous,
you
know
essentially
kind
of
a
variation
of
what
we
had
proposed
before
and
and
adding
that
with
enhanced
design
standards
on
the
lindelt
corridor,
and
then
that
gives
the
council
can
say
yes
or
no,
and
then
it
gives
staff
then
through
to
get
it
through
june
to
get
those
enhanced
design
standards.
F
A
B
We
think
this
would
be
a
more
difficult,
complex
situation
and
the
other
concern
we
would
have
is
that
if
there
was
a
cap,
but
none
of
the
prohibitions
that
would
then
open
the
door
to
a
self-storage
facility
anywhere
on
lindale
or
you
know,
adjacent
to
residential
within
the
transit
area.
Things
like
that.
So
we
definitely
have
concerns
about
not
having
the
the
proposed
prohibitions
that
we
have.
B
B
A
F
A
F
A
A
A
F
G
B
F
A
H
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you,
commissioner
albrecht
for
that
comment.
I
think
that's
a
warranted
concern.
If
these
you
know
the
the
idea
of
enhanced
design
standards
is
a
bit
nebulous,
the
way
we're
proposing
it.
I
think
I
would
like
staff
to
sort
of
take
a
look
at
this
and
sit
down
with
it
for
a
little
bit
of
time,
and
I
would
trust
that
they
would
make
the
right
recommendation
of
whether
rv
storage
is
a
good
idea
or
a
bad
idea.
F
F
Earlier,
first
floor,
maybe
a
different
use
whatever
that
may
be-
and
you
know
they
can
come
back
to
us-
for
maybe
some
further
discussion
on
that
as
a
study
item.
But
I
I
do
think
it's
important
as
part
of
my
motion
was
that
those
design
standards
be
in
place
before
the
moratorium
is
lifted,
because
you
don't
want
to
rush
to
get
something
in
where
we
don't
necessarily
want
a
traditional
use,
or
I
find
in
a
place
where
we
prefer
to
have
something
to
a
higher
standard.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Just
one
more
comment.
I
I
agree
with
the
direction
that
we're
going
regarding
design
standards
and
would
encourage
staff
to
look
at
to
re-look
at
what
the
this
group
had
suggested
regarding
the
u-haul
facility
on
landale
and
the
design
standards
that
we
had
suggested
and
the
owner
had
agreed
to
which
I
believe
made
the
ground
floor,
more
of
an
active
use
and
therefore
making
it
more
pedestrian
friendly.
H
A
A
E
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
guess
I
I'm
struggling
with
you
know
this
enhanced
design
standard
and
really
not
understanding
what
that
entails
with
putting
it
in
the
condition
here.
I
think
I
understand
the
intent,
but
because
it's
something
that
hasn't
been
formulated
today,
how
are
we
I'm
struggling
with
how
to
move
forward
with
with
implementing
something
that
hasn't
doesn't
exist?.
A
A
A
All
right
not
seeing
any
commission
members,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
move
recommendation
approval
of
the
ordinance
attached
to
the
staff
report
and
to
amend
chapter
21
of
the
city
code
to
establish
additional
standards
for
self
storage
facilities
and
remove
the
one
and
remove
the
one-year
moratorium
with
changes
in
the
distance
from
these
facilities
to
residential
uses
to
250
feet
and
allowance
of
the
use
on
lindale
avenue.
Outside
of
the
nodes.
As
presented
in
the
lindale
avenue.
Retrofit.
E
H
D
A
And
I
for
myself
motion
passes
this
will
move
on
to
the
april
5th
2021
city
council
meeting,
and
we
are
now
moving
on
to
our
last
item
of
the
evening,
which
is
consideration
of
the
approval
of
the
draft
planning
commission
meeting
synopsis
for
february
11th.
All
commission
members
were
present
at
the
february
11th
planning
commission
meeting.
I
would
entertain
a
motion,
commissioner,
roman.
F
A
H
A
G
A
Commissioner,
cookton
hi
all
right
and
I
for
myself
motion,
passes
on
to
our
next
item
and
that's
the
plan.
Commission
synopsis
for
february
25th.
All
planning
commission
members
were
present
at
that
planning
commission.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
planning
commission
synopsis
from
february
25th.