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February 16, 2023 Bloomington Minnesota Planning Commission Meeting
0:00:00 Start
0:03:00 ITEM 1 PL2023-2
(public hearing) NTC P LLC, NTC K LLC, NTC M LLC (owners)
Perfect World Hockey Training (user) 6401 Cecilia Circle
Conditional use permit for a hockey training facility
0:08:58 ITEM 2 PL2023-4
(public hearing) The Luther Company LLLP (owner)
Luther Automotive Group (user) 4801 American Blvd West
Rezoning 4801 American Blvd. W. from CS-0.5(PD) Commercial Service (Planned Development) to C-1(PD) Freeway Commercial (Planned Development); preliminary and final development plans to expand an existing motor vehicle sales facility at 4801 American Blvd. W.
0:31:36 ITEM 3 City of Bloomington
(study item) Consider approval of draft December 22nd, 2022 and January 12th, 2023 Planning Commission meeting synopsis
0:32:58 ITEM 4 City of Bloomington
(study item) Planning Commission Policy and Issues Update
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A
A
And
welcome
to
the
February
16th
meeting
of
the
Bloomington
Planning
Commission,
the
Planning
Commission
is
made
up
of
seven
volunteer
Bloomington
residents
appointed
by
the
city
council.
The
commission
advises
the
city
council
on
development
proposals,
development
standards,
long-range
planning
and
transportation
issues.
A
Our
work
is
informed
by
the
city's
comprehensive
plan,
various
District
plans
and
the
city
code
for
some
items.
The
commission
makes
a
recommendation
with
the
city
council
having
the
final
decision-making
Authority.
In
other
cases,
the
Planning
Commission
can
approve
or
deny
an
application
subject
to
appeal
to
the
city
council
for
each
action
item.
There
will
be
a
staff
report,
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
present
and
then
time
for
any
member
of
the
public
to
provide
testimony
our
first
order.
Business
tonight
is
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
Please
stand
as
you
are
able.
C
B
D
Chair
Roman
Commissioners,
we
have
two
public
hearings
tonight
and
if
somebody
is
watching
from
home,
they
can
call
in
to
testify
remotely.
What
you
would
do
is
just
call
the
number
on
the
screen
and
then
enter
in
the
access
code.
We
will
have
these
numbers
available
during
the
public
hearings
on
the
screen
as
well.
A
E
So
this
aerial
shows
the
proposed
site
outlined
in
green
off
of
Cecilia
Circle
I-494
is
to
the
South
and
the
subject.
Property
is
zoned,
I2
limited
industry
with
a
planned
development
overlay
and
designated
industrial
and
the
comprehensive
plan
there
are
office
and
Warehouse
uses
to
the
east
office,
uses
to
the
west
and
office
and
Warehouse
uses
to
the
North
and
the
City
of
Edina.
E
Here's
the
floor
plan,
so
the
applicant
proposes
to
split
this
area
into
a
physical
therapy.
Space
and
athletic
training
space
along
with
restrooms
and
offices,
so
about
2
700
square
feet
would
be
a
physical
therapy.
Space
which
is
a
permitted
use
and
5200
square
feet,
would
be
an
athletic
performance.
Training
facility,
which
is
a
conditional
use.
The
remaining
2929
square
feet
would
be
used
as
offices,
common
areas
and
bathrooms.
E
The
athletic
training
facility
would
offer
training
sessions
on
weekdays
from
four
to
nine
PM
during
the
school
year
and
7
A.M
to
5
PM.
During
the
summer,
the
physical
therapy
space
would
have
hours
Monday
through
Saturday
7
A.M
to
7
p.m,
and
the
typical
number
of
people
in
the
building
would
be
18
to
24
at
any
given
time,
while
the
maximum
number
of
people
expected
could
be
37,
it's
unlikely
that
that
will
ever
be
reached.
E
Here's
the
site
plan
that
shows
where
the
proposed
space,
which
will
be
located,
which
will
be
in
the
southern
building.
It
will
occupy
10
829
square
feet
of
the
approximately
80
000
square
foot
Southern.
Building
the
previous
use
in
this
tenant
space
was
a
conditional
use
for
a
golf
training
facility
and
since
there
are
no
exterior
modifications
to
the
property,
no
changes
in
parking
lot.
Lighting
or
Landscaping
are
required.
E
The
existing
site
has
295
parking
spaces,
whereas
307
spaces
are
required
by
city
code.
This
lower
parking
level
is
allowed
through
a
shared
parking
agreement
that
was
approved,
March
29
2018,
the
agreement
demonstrates
parking,
can
be
shared,
given
that
tenants
on
the
site
have
Peak
parking
demands
at
varying
times
of
the
day.
Given
the
agreement,
staff
has
no
concerns
about
the
parking.
Additionally,
there's
been
no
identification
of
significant
impacts
of
traffic.
With
this
conditional
use.
Permit.
A
A
C
F
F
C
A
Opposed
motion
prevails.
This
is
a
final
decision
unless
an
appeal
is
received
by
4
30
on
February
22nd.
Thank
you
both.
The
second
item
is
another
public
hearing.
This
item
is
for
a
rezoning
and
preliminary
and
final
development
plans
to
expand
an
existing
motor
vehicle
sales
facility
and
planter
planter
planter.
Centenario.
Look
at
my
words
can
joined
as
the
presentation.
G
Okay,
thank
you
good
evening
and
the
the
second
item
on
tonight's
agenda
is
a
couple,
a
couple:
different
zoning
entitlements
for
Luther
Hyundai
on
American,
Boulevard
West,
just
south
of
Interstate
494.
and
those
are
rezoning.
The
base
zoning
district
from
CS
0.5,
which
is
a
frankly
an
Antiquated
zoning
District
that
is
slowly
being
phased
out
to
C1,
which
is
really
the
intended
zoning
district
for
Motor,
Vehicle
sales
facilities
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
preliminary
file,
development
plans
for
an
expansion
to
the
North
and
the
South
of
the
building.
G
So
here
we
have
the
the
site:
we've
driven,
we've
all
driven
by
it
and
so
we're
looking
just
immediately
south
of
American
Boulevard
West
highly
visible
site
along
interstate
494..
So
obviously
we
have
the
interstate
to
the
north
to
the
West.
We
have
another
motor
vehicle
sales
facility
to
the
east.
We
have
a
restaurant
to
the
southeast,
there's
a
kind
of
an
office
Flex
building
and
then
to
the
south
of
that
are
some
single-family
homes.
G
Again,
just
a
slightly
closer
image
of
of
the
site,
so
here's
just
a
quick
graphic
on
the
zoning
existing
and
proposed
against
the
Cs
0.5
District.
It's
an
only
District
that
actually
has
a
the
0.5
represents
a
floor
area
ratio
or
far
maximum
the.
But
in
our
zoning
code
we
actually
have
a
0.4
minimum
for
Motor
Vehicle
sales
facilities.
So
obviously
you
can
see
a
conflict
there
between
existing
zoning
and
where
we
feel
we
should
be
going
for
future
development
within
the
city.
G
And
that's
why
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
C1
District
was
deemed
an
appropriate
appropriate
zoning
district
and
the
applicant
did
is
requesting
that
one
significant
difference
between
the
Cs
0.5
and
the
C1.
There
is
no
conditional
use
permit
requirement
for
Motor
Vehicle
sales
facilities.
So
that's
why,
in
your
application
tonight
we
have
the
rezoning
request.
We
have
the
preliminary
file
development
plans,
but
we
did
not
need
to
review
a
conditional
use.
Permit.
G
It's
kind
of
turning
the
the
image
180
degrees
and
towards
the
bottom
of
the
screen
is
the
entrance
you
can
see
the
the
building
occupies
more
or
less
the
Western
Northwestern
part
of
the
site
and
the
eastern
half
is
is
pretty
much
entirely.
Customer
and
service
parking
as
well
as
majority
of
it,
is
inventory.
G
The
about
about
a
year
ago,
from
a
street
view-
and
you
can
see
the
existing
facility-
this
is
looking
East
towards
the
the
front
entrance
you'll
see
momentarily
in
some
images.
How
what
they're
proposing
to
do
is
really
expand
and
create
a
more
prominent
front,
building
facade
more
glass,
more
massing
than
what's
there
today.
G
Another
image
I'll
touch
on
this
briefly
in
some
of
my
Landscaping
comments,
but
you
know:
there's
quite
there's
quite
a
few
trees
along
the
perimeter
of
the
site
along
oxboro
and
American
Boulevard,
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
image,
but
we're
really
missing
a
lot
of
shrubs.
So
we
have
trees,
but
we're
missing
that
kind
of
like
that
parking
lot
screen.
That
is
a
code
requirement
and
that's
something
that
we'll
be
looking
for
the
applicant
to
to
work
on
as
we
as
we
work
on
a
landscaping
plan.
G
You
have
a
essentially
a
building
sliver
that
would
be
added
onto
the
existing
facility
to
create
that
new
storefront
and
then
there's
a
small
somewhat
in
the
middle
of
the
building,
a
rectangle
that
expands
the
service
Drive-In
area
and
then
on
the
south
end
of
the
building
is
their
service
facility,
as
well
as
an
expansion
to
their
their
Auto
Body
operations
at
the
site,
which
are
which
currently
is
in
existence.
So
in
terms
of
square
footage,
the
service
expansion
is
the
is
the
biggest
in
terms
of
visual
change.
It's
definitely
the
the
showroom
Edition.
G
So
this
is
a
very
large
site,
it's
well
over
seven
acres,
and
so,
if
we
took
the
the
entire
site
and
calculated
the
Landscaping
requirement,
it
would
be
a
very
large
number.
The
current
site
or
the
site
as
it
sits
today,
doesn't
meet
that
standard.
So
we,
the
code,
tells
us
to
go
by
land
disturbance
and
so
you're,
adding
a
proportional
amount
of
landscaping
based
on
what
the
project
is
and
that's
what
we're
proposing
to
do
with
the
applicant.
G
One
of
those
comments
relates
to
parking
islands
and,
in
addition
to
just
needing
Landscaping
on
this
on
the
site,
there
are
certain
parking
lot
design
requirements,
and
one
of
those
is
that
the
code
requires
a
deciduous
tree
to
be
located
within
each
parking
Island,
and
so
a
lot
of
that
parking
requirement
in
terms
of
trees
will
go
towards
meeting
the
parking
Island
requirements.
So
I've
just
highlighted
I've,
circled
I
believe
it's
seven
parking
islands
that
are
either
new
or
modified
and
a
tree
will
have
to
be
located
within
within
each
of
those
islands.
G
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on.
There
was
a
there
was
a
small
expansion
in
2011
but
believe
it
was
a
car
wash
and
then
maybe
some
some
work
to
their
service
department.
But
this
is
something
that
we
can
build
off
of
an
approved
plan
from
2011
oftentimes
over
the
over
the
years.
Shrubs
die
and
they're
not
replaced
they're
just
replaced
with
turf
or
landscape
rock,
but
this
is
a
good
starting
point
to
work
with
the
applicant
on
a
revised
plan.
G
I
want
to
touch
briefly
on
the
the
proposed
floor
plan
so
on
the
upper
part
of
the
screen
you're,
seeing
the
what
would
be
the
new
showroom.
Obviously
you
have
your
showroom
vehicles
and
then
your
sales
Consultants
that
are
kind
of
front
and
center.
Once
you
enter
the
facility,
then
you
have
your
a
lot
of
back
of
house
type
operations
in
your
service
department.
You
can
see
on
the
on
the
lower
part
of
this
image
that
service
Drive-In,
which
I
think
virtually
all
auto
dealers
are
going
to
know.
G
We
do
have
parking
requirements
for
auto
dealers.
It
can
actually
be
pretty
tricky
to
calculate
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
going
on
and
if
you
ask
five
people
to
calculate
parking,
they're
probably
going
to
come
up
with
slightly
different
answers,
but
we
have
different
ratios
for
major
Auto
Repair
minor
Auto
Repair,
like
your
oil
changes
or
your
detailing,
but
then
there's
there's
a
standard
for
the
general
service
area
that
that
is
not
as
outside
of
those
Bays
as
well
as
Car
Wash
office,
retail
Warehouse.
G
G
You
can
see
the
the
that
front.
Building
expansion
so
much
more
significant
in
terms
of
their
physical
presence
glass,
a
new
metal
panel
band
with
a
unique
proposed,
ECM
or
composite
panel.
So
you
can
see
on
the
lower
right.
You
know
an
idea
of
what
that.
What
that
would
look
like
a
couple.
I
mean
a
couple
comments
on
materials
for
a
small
portion
of
the
building.
G
And
here's
the
remainder
of
building
elevations,
the
existing
building
is,
is
predominantly
a
brick
building
and
that
would
be
maintained,
and
so
it's
not
painted
we're
often
confronted
with
painted
brick
buildings,
and
this
isn't
so
that's
good
and
then
the
that
taupe
color,
that's
the
precast
concrete
that
you
know
is,
does
require
flexibility.
But
in
this
context
we
think
it
is
a
quality
material.
It
is
integrally
colored
and
is,
is
pretty
common
for
auto
dealerships
and
looks
very
nice.
G
So
with
that
we
are
recommending
our
approval.
I
have
the
two
motions
below
the
first
one
is
for
the
rezoning
again.
That's
the
base
zoning
District
the
plan
development
overlay
would
would
be
the
same
and
then
the
second
motion
is
for
the
the
physical
expansion,
the
preliminary
and
final
development
plans.
C
Thanks
chair
one
question:
I
have
is
really
regarding
the
properties
to
the
south
of
this
proposal.
So
I
do
see
that
there
is
a
small
pond
and
single
family.
Can
you
talk
about
what
impact
this
project
will
have
on
either
just
the
water
quality
and
the
single-family
homes
directly
to
the
South
sure.
G
G
It
still
provides
a
visual
barrier
between
this
site
and
the
single-family
homes
to
the
South
and
further
the
the
height
of
the
proposed
building,
really
wouldn't
impact
any
visual.
You
know
any
views
from
like
the
backyard.
Like
you
know,
a
multi-level
parking
structure
might
so
and
also
there's
distance.
You
know
we're
several
hundred
feet.
You
know
I
think
Glenn
and
I
measured
it
it's
about
500
feet
between
the
edge
of
the
building
and
the
edge
of
the
single-family
property
boundary.
So
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
distance
between
those
two.
H
Here,
with
Linda
McGinty
from
Luther,
thanks
again
Mike
for
the
introduction
to
the
project,
I
think
it
was
pretty
to
the
point
and
again
we
we
agree
and
acknowledge
the
conditions
that
are
in
the
staff
report
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
staff
to
address
the
the
few
minor
deficiencies
on
the
Landscaping
plan.
In
particular,
I
mean
we
don't
take
anyone
object
to
any
of
that.
H
This
expansion
does
require
again
that
we
meet
not
only
the
city's
rules
and
requirements,
but
also
the
watersheds
as
I'm
sure,
you're
familiar
it
would
be
brought
into
code
and
because
we're
we're
actually
disturbing
less
than
half
of
the
site.
We
only
are
required
or
obligated
to
bring
that
portion
which
we're
disturbing
into
compliance,
but
it's
still
a
significant
portion
of
the
site.
So
there
will
be
some
water
quality
benefits
with
this
project
that
are
forthcoming.
H
In
addition
to
that,
the
expansion
to
the
shop
will
be
air
conditioned,
and
this
might
seem
a
little
obscure,
but
because
of
that,
the
doors
to
the
shop
will
be
closed
during
the
summer
months,
so
the
noise
which
would
otherwise
be
emitted
from
the
building
if
the
building
was
not
air
conditioned
in
the
shop,
will
be
minimized
because
of
that
factor.
So
that's
the
benefit
that
the
neighbors,
the
South,
will
be
able
to
realize
what
this
Expansion
Project.
H
Another
point
is
just
that
the
existing
landscaping
and
vegetation-
that's
south
of
us
will
large
really
be
undisturbed
through
this
project,
so
that
will
remain
in
place,
so
the
visual
screening
will
still
remain
intact
and
I.
Guess
with
that,
that's
really
about
all
we
have.
We
do
additionally
intend
to
incorporate
electronic
or
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
on
this
site,
as
well
as
been
a
very
hot
topic
with
Luther
over
the
past
few
years
and
something
they're
doing
on
a
lot
of
their
project
sites,
and
that
will
be
coming
with
this
this
project
as
well.
C
H
A
A
F
C
I
G
Chair
Roman,
commissioner
cookton
I'm
gonna
have
to
rely
on
Glenn
on
the
history,
because
I
think
he
is
the
primary
author
of
those
standards
from
years
ago.
But
in
terms
of
where
my
comments
in
the
staff
report
related
to
flurry
ratio
I
think
in
part
it
was
a
negotiation
between
the
city
and
a
variety
of
auto
dealerships,
because
the
city
was
proposing
a
0.4,
far
requirement
just
for
reference.
I
believe
the
proposal
you're
reviewing
tonight
is
I
think
0.16.
G
It
might
be
quite
a
little
bit
off
on
that,
but
so
what
you
see
is
a
pretty
significant
building
52
000
square
feet,
but
it's
still
relative
to
the
site.
Size
is
has
a
small
far.
So
if
this
were
a
scrape
and
rebuild
it
would
not
be
compliant
with
citicoat,
because
it
does
not,
it
would
not
meet
that
far
minimum.
G
However,
there
is
a
specific
exception
for
existing
motor
vehicle
sales
facilities,
which
this
is
of
course,
and
in
that
case
there
will
be
a
limitation
on
decreasing
floor
area,
but
they
are
permitted
to
increase
floor
area
even
if
it
does
not
meet
the
minimum
far
for
the
district,
and
so
in
that
case,
even
though
that
it
does
not
meet
the
0.4
far,
it
is
increasing
floor
area
and
is
therefore
consistent
with
that
standard
Glenn.
Are
you
able
to
maybe
a
little
history
that
I'm
a
little
fuzzy
yeah.
D
So
coming
out
of
that
study,
there
were
some
rezoning
and
reciting
done
and
then
ultimately,
a
new
District
created
C1
District
that
has
minimum
floor
area
ratios
to
encourage
over
time
auto
dealers
to
adopt
a
more
vertical
format,
and
we've
noticed
the
market
is
heading
heading
in
that
direction
anyway.
So
it's
very
compatible
with
that
market
Direction.
C
Thanks
chair,
you
know
overall
I
think
the
application
is
pretty
straightforward,
as
they're
increasing
the
size
of
the
building.
The
biggest
thing
that
I
really
was
pleasantly
surprised
is
obviously
the
water
quality
or
the
water
impact
would
be
in
a
positive
as
well
as
there
is
minimal
impact
to
the
the
single-family
homes
to
the
south
of
the
property,
and
the
thing
that
I
really
liked
is
obviously
they're.
A
A
C
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
second
second?
Thank
you.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
recommend
a
rezoning
to
the
city
council.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
say,
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries,
and
we
have
a
second
Motion
in
front
of
us.
If
anyone
would
like
to
make
one
commissioner
Albrecht.
F
Thank
you
chair
in
case
pl2023-3,
having
been
able
to
make
the
required
findings,
I
moved
to
recommend
city
council
approve
of
major
revisions
to
preliminary
and
final
development
plans
for
an
approximately
9
200
square
foot,
expansion
of
the
Luther
Hyundai
Motor
Vehicles
vehicle
sales
facility
located
at
4801,
American,
Boulevard,
West,
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report.
Second,
thank.
A
F
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F
C
D
Chair
Roman
Commissioners,
we
have
another
Planning
Commission
meeting
next
Thursday
night
and
we
have
just
one
item
on
that
agenda.
It's
a
master
sign
plan,
application
for
Bloomington
Central
Station
in
the
South
Loop
District,
actually
two
items
on
that
agenda.
We
also
have
an
introduction
of
a
new
employee,
Holly
massick,
who
will
be
starting
as
the
New
Port
Authority
administrator
next
week,
so
just
an
opportunity
to
to
meet
MS
masek
and
then,
after
that,
on
March
5th.
D
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A
I
Thanks
Mr
chair
the
our
last
application
caught
my
ear
because
when
I
was
reviewing,
the
staff
report
certainly
did
stick
out
to
me
how
a
floor
area
ratio
of
whatever
it
was
0.19
going
back
to
a
1996
study
seems
like
a
long
time
ago.
I
may
request
that
I
request
that
staff
give
a
an
hour
or
two
of
consideration
whether
we
want
to
go
back
and
look
at
that
study.
I
The
market
certainly
has
changed
since
1996,
with
how
auto
dealerships
do
and
I
wonder
if
we're
missing
out
on
opportunities
by
allowing
floor
area
ratios
for
existing
auto
dealerships
at
that
level,
and
so
I'll
leave
it
just
to
ask
judgment
whether
they
want
to
take
that
any
further
than
giving
it
an
hour
or
two
of
consideration.
But
that
may
be
something
we
may.