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December 22, 2022 Bloomington Minnesota Planning Commission Meeting
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0:03:56 ITEM 1 PL2022-231
(public hearing) Steven Traen (owner)
A) A variance to reduce the side yard setback from 5 feet to 2.5 feet for an existing garage; B) A variance to reduce the side yard setback from 10 feet to 2.5 feet for an existing living area; and C) A variance to reduce the side yard setback from 10 feet to 2.5 feet for an existing deck located at 8609 Logan Avenue South.
0:40:20 ITEM 2 PL2022-239
(study item) City of Bloomington
Review and approval of the 2023 Planning Commission Work Plan.
1:36:37 ITEM 3 City of Bloomington
(study item) Planning Commission Policy and Issues Update
A
A
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
December
22nd
2022
meeting
of
the
Bloomington
Planning
Commission,
the
Planning
Commission
is
made
up
of
seven
volunteer,
Bloomington
residents
appointed
by
the
city
council
this
evening
there
are
five
which
is
a
quorum.
The
commission
advises
the
city
council
on
development
proposals,
development
standards,
long-range
planning
and
transportation
issues.
Our
work
is
informed
by
the
city's
comprehensive
plan,
various
District
plans
and
the
city
code
for
some
items.
The
commission
makes
a
recommendation
with
the
city
council
having
final
decision-making
Authority,
which
is
the
case
this
evening
with
items.
A
In
other
cases,
the
Planning
Commission
can
approve
or
deny
an
application
subject
to
an
appeal
to
the
city
council
for
each
action
item.
There
will
be
a
staff
report,
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
present
and
then
time
for
any
member
of
the
public
to
provide
testimony.
Our
first
order
of
business
site
is
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
Please
stand
as
you
are
able.
C
Chair
Roman
Commissioners,
we
have
one
public
hearing
item
tonight
and
we
will
take
a
testimony
here
in
the
chambers,
but
if
somebody's
remote
and
would
like
to
provide
testimony,
they
can
do
so.
They
would
call
in
to
the
number
on
the
screen
and
then
enter
in
the
access
code
and
we'd
be
able
to
pass
them
through.
We
will
have
this
number
on
the
screen
during
that
public
hearing
item.
A
D
D
The
property
address
is
8906
Logan,
Avenue
South.
This
property
is
just
located
just
south
of
Penn
Lake
and
surrounding
uses
our
single
family
homes
a
little
bit
about
property
history
because
it
is
relevant.
The
property
was,
the
home
was
built
in
1956.
D
and
in
1970s
the
variance
board
approved
a
three-foot
side,
yard
setback
for
a
garage
and
then
sometime
between
1972
and
1985,
a
torch
was
built
off.
The
back
of
the
garage
in
a
1985
to
1989
they
covered
up
was
built
off
the
back
of
the
porch
and
then
in
2019.
The
applicant
purchased.
The
home
here
is
a
snippet
of
the
asphalt
survey
that
was
provided.
D
D
Couple
considerations
for
the
variants
become
the
current
landowner
question
of
the
stuff
back
and
was
proactive
and
resolving
the
issue
through
applying
for
a
variance,
and
then
the
city
is
unaware
of
any
complaint
or
issue
from
Neighbors
and
then
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
owner
intends
to
continue
the
use
of
the
structures,
as
is
they
will
not
be
doing
any
modifying
or
expanding
or
renovating
of
the
structures.
D
And
then
there
are
some
practical
difficulties
that
the
variance
is
denied,
including
removing
inches
of
the
garage
converting
seven
feet
of
the
garage
or
the
porch
to
a
garage
and
dangling
a
portion
of
the
existing
debt
and
due
to
the
proximity
of
these
structures,
to
go
outline.
Removing
the
structure
would
result
in
acquiring
a
construction
event
from
the
neighbor.
D
And
then
I
wanted
to
go
over
the
staff
recommended
conditions.
The
first
two
have
to
do
with
mitigating
any
impacts
on
the
neighbor,
so
no
windows
may
be
added
to
the
north
wall
of
the
porch
and
then
the
second
condition
screening
must
be
added
to
the
north
portion
of
the
deck,
and
the
screening
should
be
fully
opaque
and
staff
can
review
any
type
of
screening
that
the
applicant
composes
to
make
sure
it
meets
the
in
front
of
the
commission
and
then
the
third
one.
D
Even
though
the
variance
language
is
for
two
and
a
half
feet,
so
the
structure
is
no
additions
or
structures
may
be
added
to
the
property
line.
Current
no
portion
of
these
structures
may
be
added,
then
the
existing
steps
at
that
point,
and
then
the
staff
did
receive
two
emails
and
support
this
afternoon
and
they've
been
emailed
and
provided
to
you
at
your
seat
and
staff
is
recommending
approval
this.
If
this
goes
through
tonight,
this
would
go
through
city
council,
and
that
would
be
on
the
January
9th
meeting.
D
And
I
am
here
for
any
questions
and
I
believe
the
applicant
and
a
realtor
is
on
the
WebEx
call
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you,
questions
for
staff,
commissioner
Abdi.
E
Thank
you
chair.
Could
you
go
back
to
the
as
built
survey,
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
survey?
The
variance
being
sought
is
2.5
feet,
but
the
details
on
the
screen
here
show
the
least
setback
is
2.6.
What
is
the
difference.
D
Chair
Commissioner
of
these
with
two
and
a
half
feet,
it
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
margin
of
an
air
in
in
measuring.
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
surveyor
they
measured
to
the
outside
of
the
line.
If
you
measure
kind
of
from
the
inside
of
these
lines,
you
get
a
smaller
number.
So
two
and
a
half
feet
allows
for
a
little
bit
of
margin
for
error
in
the
measurements,
but
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
no
structures
maybe
expanded
or
maybe
blast
them.
The
than
the
current
setback
points.
F
Cookton,
thank
you
Mr
chairman.
Can
you
walk
me
through
the
condition
of
approval
number
two
again
with
the
screen
wall,
just
a
further
explanation
of
what
that
means.
D
D
Chair
commissioner,
cooked
in
so
let
me
go
actually
go
back
to
the
portion
that
I
wanna
talk
about.
So
if
you
can
see,
my
cursor
screen
would
have
to
be
added
basically
in
this
in
this
area
and
that's
to
provide
privacy
for
the
Neighbors
and
that
screening
must
be
fully
opaque
and
we
can
review
any
plans
that
the
applicant
proposes
to
us
to
make
sure
that
it
meets
the
intent
to
fully
opaque.
D
So
you
can
put
up
some
kind
of
screen
wall
or
vegetation,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
it
does
have
to
be
a
fully
opaque
screening.
A
Have
you
I
see,
we
have
letters
of
comment
from
folks
in
the
area?
Has
there
been
any
communication
that
the
staff
have
received
from
the
property
owner
at
2001,
West
89th.
D
Chair
they
were
notified
of
course,
of
the
hearing
tonight.
I
have
not
heard
from
them,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
the
applicant
have
had
any
discussions
with
the
owner,
but
I've,
let
him
State
I
need
contact.
A
Thank
you
and
then
one
additional
question:
if
you
could,
on
the
back
on
the
screen
with
the
conditions,
could
share
with
me
the
staff's
intent
on
condition
number
three
which
talks
about
additions
or
structures
in
relation
to
the
existing
setback.
What's
your
intent
with
that
condition,.
D
A
D
Correct
so
you
can
expand
the
porch,
so
any
expansion
of
the
structures
would
have
to
meet
code.
The
current.
A
Code,
so
what
we're
really
seeing
is
no
additions
or
structures
that
are
part
of
the
existing
structures
correct
and
that
explain
that
very
well,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
we
are
not.
This
condition
doesn't
create
an
entitlement
to
add
a
shed
or
a
massive
deck,
app
that
reduced
setback
right.
Okay,.
A
All
right
this,
let's
see
what
the
applicant
like
to
speak
on
this
item.
C
Foreign
Mr
chair,
we
have
Kelly
gawrap
and
on
the
line
and
Steve
train
I
will
unmute
both
of
them,
so
they
can
make
comments.
A
Thank
you,
yeah.
We
have
time
for
the
applicant
to
speak
if
you
could
identify
which
your
name,
when
you
speak
and
feel
free
to.
Let
us
know
anything
we
should
about
this
application.
G
H
Sure
sure
I
can
just
speak
really
briefly:
Steve
train
I'm,
the
homeowner
at
8906,
Logan,
Avenue,
South
I,
just
wanna,
say
thank
you
to
Liz
and
the
commission,
for
you
know
helping
me
through
this
process
it's
been
rather
complicated
and
I
think
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
So
I
really
appreciate
everyone's
work
on
this
I
guess:
I,
don't
have
any
further
questions
or
comments.
F
H
Steve
speaking
here,
I
guess
it
doesn't
feel
overly
burdensome
I
mean
if
it,
if
it's
necessary.
My
understanding
that
it
was
was
that
it
was
a
recommendation,
but
if
it's
required
I
guess
I
want
to
meet
that
requirement
going
forward.
A
A
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
before
we
get
into
discussion
our
conversation
there
with
the
applicant.
He
was
under
the
impression
that
condition.
Number
two
was
a
recommendation
being
that
you
are
this
representation
of
the
Planning
Commission.
Could
you
clarify
for
the
applicant
that
that's
not
a
recommendation
right.
A
I
think
in
in
Reading
I
could
see
where,
as
you
read,
the
the
screen,
if
you
read
the
material
in
the
it's,
it's
the
staff's
recommendation
to
the
commission,
and
so,
if
the
commission
adopts
these
conditions,
they
are
not
recommended,
they
become
required.
So
these
are.
These
are
the
conditions
that
the
staff
is
recommending
that
the
commission
and
the
council
adopt.
A
C
A
A
My
only
comment
is
I
would
like
just
to
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
a
word
or
two
to
clarify
a
number
three,
that
it
is
very
clear
that
you
know
the
existing
non-conforming
structures
we
would
be
approving,
but
I
would
not
want
to
see
those
added
to
in
any
way.
I
would
not
want
to
see
them.
I
would
not
want
to
see
someone
put
a
shed
also
at
two
and
a
half
feet,
I
mean
so
again.
A
A
That
would
be
a
right,
so
you
know
I
I,
you
know,
maybe
it
says
no
additions
to
the
current
non-conforming
structures,
then
I
just
say
or
structures.
I,
just
I
worry
about
the
or
structures
part
leading
to
the
ability
to
add
other
things
later
and
I
heard
the
staff
very
clearly
say
that
was
not
the
intent.
So
if
anyone
has
any
suggestions
on
wording
around
that
or
if
assistant
City
attorney
tusky
has
some
ideas
or
whoever
but
I
I
think
I
think
the
intent
is
there.
F
You
Mr
chair
I
was
wondering
if
I
could
ask
staff
a
question.
Please
mizoday
condition
number
two:
where
we're
adding
screening
to
the
that
portion
of
the
porch
there.
Is
there
a
precedent
for
that
type
of
condition?
Do
you
feel
we
would
be
breaking
or
setting
a
new
precedent
if
we
didn't
require
that.
D
Chair
commissioner,
Clifton
I'm
not
aware,
certainly,
we've
had
screening
conditions,
but
nothing
kind
of,
as
particular
as
this
one
and
my
opinion,
but
I
welcome
my
managers.
Thoughts
on
image
number
two.
C
Roman
commissioner
cookton
we
were
thinking
with
this
condition,
is
the
code
requires
a
10-foot
setback
for
a
deck
of
that
nature,
along
the
side
setback
line,
and
given
that
it's
there,
it's
very
difficult
to
remove
it
back
to
the
code
required
setback
and
condition.
Number
two
would
be
a
way
to
at
least
mitigate
any
impacts
to
the
property
to
the
north.
There
are
windows
fairly
close
to
the
property
line
on
that
property,
and
it
would
basically
just
mitigate
the
potential
impacts
by
adding
that
screening.
F
Thank
you,
Miss
O'day
and
Mr
marker
guard.
That's
my
one.
Hang
up
on
this
application
I'd
like
to
hear
other
Commissioners
thoughts
on
condition.
Number
two.
You
know
it's
an
existing
condition.
That's
been
like
that
for
a
long
time
and
the
applicant
was
proactive
in
coming
to
the
city
and
asking
for
this
and
I
I,
don't
feel
great
about
someone
doing
the
right
thing
and
coming
to
us,
and
they
always
say,
but
you
got
to
do
this
and
I
don't
feel
great
about
it.
I
understand
the
intent.
F
A
I
wonder
planner
O'day.
If
you
could
give
up
just
a
couple
of
examples
of
what
would
meet
the
what
would
meet
the
standard
of
I
think
you
mentioned
opaque
screening.
What
would
be
some
some
solutions
that
could
be
put
in
place
that
would
meet
that,
however
minor
or
major
they
may
be.
D
Actual
wall
I
know
the
applicant
wanted
Vines
like
a
lattice
and
combined
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
mean
letters
you
can
see
through
those
gaps
and
you
know
lines
don't
grow
could
be
fully
grown
when
they're
planted
so
I
want
to
make
sure
the
the
lines
meet.
The
intent
would
be
fully
okay.
So
that's
another
option.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I'm,
actually,
in
support
of
all
three
conditions
recommended
conditions.
The
you
know
we're
not
requiring
the
applicant
to
remove
anything
to
meet
in
compliance,
we're
actually
being
very
lenient
by
you
know,
making
the
non-conformity
illegal
non-conformity
in
this
case
and
I-
think
the
pro
based
on
the
staff
report,
the
the
existing
Property
Owners,
trying
to
sell
the
property.
E
If
that's
my
understanding.
So
if
the
new
owner
has
a
you
know,
big
issue
with
you
know
an
owners
change
properties,
don't
change!
So
if
you
have
additional,
you
know,
issues
and
complaints.
It's
just
going
to
be
very
tedious
for
each
neighbor.
If
you
haven't
in
a
loud
deck
situation,
and
you
have
no
protection
from
that
and
there's
nothing
that
the
city
to
require
that
them
to
comply
with,
because
we
the
only
way
we
can
do
that
now
is
through
this
condition.
E
I
think
that'll
just
be
very
helpful,
considering
that
the
existing
property
is
already
too
close,
then
what
would
be
allowed
for
a
deck
and
I
think
number
three
would
ensure
that
you
know
the
expansion
of
a
potential
deck
would
have
to
meet
the
10-foot
setback.
That
is
required,
but
the
number
two
would
provide
some
protection
for
the
existing
usage
of
where
the
existing
deck
is
located.
Miso
day
is
the
is
the
is
the
opacity
a
percentage
requirements
like
60
opaque,
or
is
it
when
you
say
full
full
opacity?
E
Is
that,
like
completely
blocked
out
like
there's,
not
visibility
through
like,
if
you
imagine
this
six
foot
fence,
that's
completely
private
versus
one,
that's
kind
of
like
decked
up
where
you
can
see
visibility
through
it?
My
only
concern
with
planting
allowing
planting
for
this
kind
of
thing
is,
planting
can
be
you
know,
trimmed
or
it
can
be
removed
or
it
could
die
and
the
owner
knew
or
existing
will
not
replace
it.
So
then,
how
do
you
go
back
and
ensure
compliance
with
that?
E
So
my
only
recommendation
is
to
actually
have
a
structure,
something
structural
would
be
added
to
that,
so
that
it's
a
little
bit
more.
The
presence
of
that
stays
put
versus
a
dying
plant
that
may
or
may
not
exist
during
this
winter.
So
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that
I'm
in
support
of
the
application.
That's
proposed
with
these
recommended
conditions.
A
I
think
the
planning
manager
did.
You
have
some
suggestions
on
if
you
had
any
suggestions
on
language
that
would
clarify
number
three.
C
Roman
I
do
and
we
can
use
this
word
Smith
on
the
fly,
but
this
is
the
setback.
I
mean
the
condition
has
it
was
drafted
and
then
a
potential
change
in
case
that
meets
your
are
concerned.
C
E
A
F
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
I've,
been
thinking
about
it
and
I.
Don't
think
I
can
support
condition.
Number
two
I
appreciate
the
the
applicant
has
come
forward
proactively
and
I
I
understand
the
intent
of
why
we
would
want
screening
there,
but
being
that
it
has
to
be
fully
opaque.
F
I
mean
that's
something
real
I
think
it
detracts
from
the
character
of
that
home
and
that
porch
I
mean
it's
a
a
hundred
and
or
you
know
it
turns
the
corner,
90
degrees
as
an
open,
porch
and
I
think
it
would
change
the
look
and
I
think
it
would
look.
You
know
unless
you
hired
an
architect
or
something
it
might
look
worse.
F
My
parents
have
a
a
neighbor
who
had
to
do
something
similar
and
they
put
plywood
up
and
it
looks
terrible.
Fortunately
they
don't
live
in
Bloomington,
but
I.
Don't
think
I
can
support,
condition.
Number
two
I
think
I
think
we're
being
overly
burdensome
in
this
case
and
their
neighbor
to
the
north
was
provided
a
letter
in
the
mail
to
provide
public
testimony
and
they
to
my
knowledge,
did
not.
F
And
so
you
know
that
that
would
have
been
their
opportunity
and
they
would
still
have
an
opportunity
to
testify
at
city
council
level
if
they
don't
like
our
like
my
proposal
of
getting
rid
of
requirement
number
two
and
if
they
did
come
forward
and
and
say
we're
the
neighbor
to
the
north
and
I
really
want
that
requirement
back.
I
would
take
that
very
seriously,
but
being
that
we
haven't
heard
that
I
find
that
condition
to
be
overly
burdensome
and
I
can't
support
that
condition
of
approval.
F
A
I
think
I
can
only
keep
that
option
for
a
second
and
see
if
there's
other
thoughts
on
this
issue
of
recommendation
number
two.
A
So
other
thoughts
on
on
I
guess
on
condition
number
two:
if
any.
I
Yeah
yeah
thank
you,
chair,
I'm,
just
trying
to
kind
of
reflect
on
on
the
different
comments
about
this
number
two,
but
if
it
seems
like,
like
miss
a
day,
said,
there's
some
flexibility
in
that
that
I
think
it's
important
that,
like
commissioner
Abdi
said
or
mentioned,
that,
because
of
the
change
of
owners
in
different
owners,
trying
to
do
something
different
with
that
specific
area
in
in
changing
the
structure
as
it
is
having
a
structure
that
is,
that
is
how
do
I
say
it.
That
is
constant.
That
is
permanent.
I
That
looks
permanent
versus
something
like
vines
that
might
go
away.
It
will
be
best
so
I
think
at
the
best.
For
me,
the
best
way
to
go
would
be
with
that
with
the
inclusion
of
that
second
requirement.
I
A
Question
for
staff
would
I
assume
whatever.
If
there
was
some
architectural
is
structural
requirements
to
do
something
at
this
North
End.
That
would
require
a
permit.
Yes,.
A
The
photo
the
reason
I
asked.
The
question
is
I'm
concerned
that,
if
I'm
following
the
the
logic
here
that,
if
we
require
a
structural
solution,
my
instinct
is
that
the
rest
of
that
railing
on
that
deck
is
not
compliant
by
today's
code.
A
A
A
A
C
So
the
the
screening
requirement
would
trigger
kind
of
filling
in
this
area,
yep
with
a
solid
screen,
weather
permits
required
I'm,
not
exactly
sure,
I
suspect
it.
It
may
be.
We'd
have
to
check
on
that,
but
yeah.
This.
A
F
Mr
chair,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
throw
one
other
comment.
Everyone
knows
where
I
stand
on
this,
but
professionally
I
work
in
the
the
world
of
design,
I
work
with
a
lot
of
Architects
and
everything-
and
you
know,
you've
got
a
unique
paint.
Color
here,
you've
got
a
an
existing
structure
that
you
know
is
very
homogeneous
in
its
in
its
current
state,
and
if
this
applicant
doesn't
hire
an
architect-
and
you
know
this
could
be
a
detraction
if.
C
F
It's
done
wrong
like
I.
Could
you
know
as
someone
who
might
be
dating
an
architect,
she
would
be
upset
if
her
neighbor
did
something
that
didn't
look
very
good
and
it
might
be
worse
and
I
know
a
lot
of
Architects
I
would
feel
that
way,
and
so,
just
again
consideration
for
my
fellow
commissioner
says
it's
not
easy
to
make
something
look
good,
especially
on
the
exterior
envelope
of
a
building
you
if,
unless
you're
hiring
an
architect
this,
this
might
look
worse.
A
J
Either
sorry
I
was
out
shoveling
earlier
so
I'm
not
dressed
in
my
finest
today,
but
you
do
have
the
authority
to
put
conditions
on
variances
that
happens
all
the
time.
The
statutory
guidance
is
that
they
need
to
Bear
a
rough
proportionality
to
the
impact
created
by
the
variants,
so
that's
kind
of
the
language
you're
working
with
in
462.357
when
you
look
at
variances,
so
a
the
impact
by
the
variants
and
B
does
the
condition
bear
rough
proportionality
to
that
impact.
J
So
those
are
kind
of
the
two
things
to
look
at
you
know.
Legally,
we
can
add
conditions.
That's
fine,
but
it'd
be
up
to
the
commission
to
decide
whether
the
impact
and
the
proportionality
are
there.
So
just
my
two
cents
on
kind
of
a
legal
background.
If
you
have
any
other
questions
you
can.
Let
me
know.
F
Yeah
I'm
Mr,
chair
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
what
Mr
tosski
was
referencing
I'm,
certainly
not
recommending.
We
force
them
to
hire
an
architect,
not
at
all.
It's
just
a
warning
for
fellow
planning
Commissioners
that
as
a
designer
myself,
I
know
that
this
is
tricky
to
make.
This
look
good,
especially
if
we
make
it
fully
opaque
and
we
may
choose
to
have
that
consideration
as
our
head
as
we're
pondering
that
condition
of
approval.
E
You
chair
for
clarification
for
staff,
and
maybe
the
attorney
as
part
of
the
variance
analysis
is
consideration
of
financial
burden
as
part
of
the
different
conditions
of
approval
that
we're
looking
at.
Is
that
something
that
we
need
to
take
into
account
on
behalf
of
the
applicant?
You
know,
as
part
of
this
analysis,
do
we
say
that
it's
going
to
be
costly
for
the
applicant
to
do
it.
E
So,
therefore,
even
though
the
structure
is
in
you
know
is
has
been
in
existence
for
40
years,
but
for
it
to
be
in
compliance,
you
know
this
condition
would
be
a
financial
burden
for
the
applicant
and
therefore
we
should
really
not
require
it.
Is
that
something
that
we
have
a
leeway
in
considering
or
otherwise.
J
Yeah,
yes,
the
price
you
know,
you're
you're
kind
of
dealing
with
What's
called
the
Practical
difficulties
test.
What
comes
out
of
the
statute,
and
what
that
says
is
that
you
can
consider
economic
circumstances
or
hardship.
You
know
for
the
for
the
home
order
to
comply
with
current
code.
It
can't
be
the
only
consideration.
So
if
just
the
basis
of
the
variance
is
economic
based
reasoning,
then
that
you
can't
consider
that,
but
it
can
be
one,
it
can
be
one
of
many
factors
you
consider.
A
That's
kind
of
where
I'm
leading
right
now,
but
again,
if
it's
the,
if
it's
the
pleasure
of
the
commission
to
have
number
two
that
that's
that's
fine
too,
commissioner
McGovern.
G
Thank
you,
chair
after
listening
to
commissioner
cookton
I
would
have
to
agree.
Number
two
would
be
omitted
because
it's
kind
of
based
on
the
book
If
You
Give
a
Mouse,
a
Cookie.
I
A
If
we,
if
we
don't
recommend
the
council,
could
put
it
in,
you
know
if,
let's
say
we
recommend
it
to
move
forward
with
condition
number
one
and
condition
number
three
with
amended
language,
but
not
with
commission
number.
Two
condition:
number
two
I
think
it
would
go
forward.
Correct
me
if
you're
wrong,
it
would
go
forward
to
the
council
with
all
three
noting
that
the
commission
did
not
recommend
number
two
correct.
C
Chair
Roman,
typically
what
we
do
unless
staff
feels
very
strongly
on
an
issue
is
we
would
change
our
recommendation
to
match
the
planning
commissions
and,
in
this
case,
I
think
that
would
be
true.
We
would
probably
just
change
to
match
the
Planning
Commission.
A
B
A
Positional,
discussion
or
emotion
or.
A
I
think
I
think
we've
had
thorough
discussion
so
unless
anyone
feels
strongly
I
would
not
reopen
the
public
hearing
okay
plan
our
day.
Could
we
get
the
screen
with
the
Motions
at
your
convenience.
F
F
B
reduce
the
side,
yard
setback
from
10
feet
to
two
and
a
half
feet
for
an
existing
living
area
and
C
reduce
the
side,
yard
setback
from
10
feet
to
two
and
a
half
feet
for
an
existing
deck
at
8906,
Logan,
Avenue,
South,
subject
to
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report
and
staff
recommended
conditions
number
one,
not
staff
condition
number
two
that
was
recommended
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
condition
number
three
clarifying
the
language
that
the
Mr
marker
guard.
I
think
you
have
some
did
somebody
have
some
language
yeah.
K
G
A
J
A
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
the
motion
passes.
This
item
will
move
on
to
the
January
9th
city
council
agenda,
where
it
will
be
on
the
consent
item.
Thank
you
item
number.
Two
is
a
review
and
approval
of
the
proposed
2023
Planning
Commission
work
plan
and
Senior
planner
Johnson
is
the
staff
on
this
item.
K
Good
evening,
chairman
Roman
and
members
of
the
commission
good
to
see
you
all
happy
holidays
when
it's
there's
a
snowstorm,
it
means
it's
time
to
review
the
work
plan,
so
it
seems
so
I'll
share
my
screen
here.
K
There
there
we
are,
can
you
see
that?
Okay?
Yes,
we
can
sounds
good,
we'll
get
right
into
it,
so
it's
been
a
busy
year
in
the
planning
division
and
at
the
Planning
Commission
in
2022.
K
So
a
couple
updates
for
you
about
our
kind
of
Staffing
structure
and
certainly
I'm
sure
Glenn
could
share
some
insights
and
anecdotes
about
kind
of
all
the
different
Staffing
elements
we've
had
this
year,
but
I
think
I
heard
him
mention
that
we
have
10
chairs
in
planning
currently
and
I.
Think
seven
people
have
changed
roles
or
come
into
the
planning
division
this
year.
So
a
really
significant
amount
of
new
blood
and
new
participants,
which
is
exciting.
K
It
does
involve
a
lot
of
training
and
but
there
are
opportunities
for
fresh
eyes
on
a
lot
of
things.
Excuse
me
so
from
that
perspective,
certainly
a
positive
and
the
slide
before
you
here
just
gives
you
an
idea
of
kind
of
how
the
planning
division
is
is
laid
out.
I
know.
All
of
you
are
very
familiar
with
that,
but
maybe
to
the
benefit
of
the
public
too.
K
So
certainly
Glenn
markyard
is
the
planning
manager.
We
have
two
subdivisions.
If
you
will
current
planning
and
long-range
planning
each
one
of
those
subunits
has
a
senior
planner
I'm
currently
in
our
current
planning
unit,
they
deal
with
development
review
city
code
questions,
plats,
conditionings
permits
a
whole
wide
variety
of
development
services
and
other
things.
I'd
say.
K
The
most
significant
thing
to
note
here
is
that
we
now
have
two
planning
technicians,
so
that
helps
us
provide
a
lot
more
service
with
respect,
counter
and
kind
of
other
planning
reviews
and
permits
that
the
the
planning
division
is
tasked
with.
So
that's
a
great
development
for
the
division.
K
Just
to
note,
one
of
the
planner
positions
in
the
division
is
structured
as
a
hybrid
position.
So
that's
why
you
see
kind
of
the
2.5
planners,
and
so
as
the
demand
for
development
services
escalates
with
the
ups
and
downs
of
the
market
and
kind
of
the
number
of
applications.
We
see
that
particular
position
has
shifted
over
more
to
a
current
planning
role,
depending
on
the
volume
of
things
that
we
have
to
process
and
review
in
times
where
there
is
a
smaller
volume
of
applications.
K
That
allows
allows
us
to
shift
that
planner
more
towards
long-range
planning
work,
and
so
that's
really
helpful
to
have
kind
of
that
hybrid
position
built
into
it
on
the
long
range
planning
side.
So
we
we
have
marked
down
2.3
planners.
The
reason
for
the
discrepancy
is
that
one
of
the
long-range
planning
positions
is
structured
as
an
80
20
split
with
the
Bloomington
HRA,
and
so
that
particular
planner
has
an
emphasis
on
housing
and
other
related
items.
K
That
kind
of
that
that
there's
collaboration
between
there,
but
just
from
a
FTE
perspective,
it's
structured
as
a
80
20
piece
there.
So
yeah
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
new
people
in
planning
this
year.
We're
getting
up
to
speed,
but
I
think
the
good
news
is
that
for
the
most
part,
we're
pretty
proud
of
the
ability
to
keep
the
projects
on
track
this
year.
As
far
as
the
work
plan
goes
and
as
far
as
just
getting
a
number
of
things
done
and
you're,
certainly
part
of
that
story
too.
K
K
We
are
looking
at
a
comp
plan
update
that
is
related
to
a
single
family
zoning
standard,
which
I
think
is
pretty
significant.
We
have
processed
a
number
of
city
code
amendments
this
year,
some
of
them
larger
than
others,
but
all
of
them
complex
in
their
own
ways.
So
that's
a
fairly
lengthy
list
and
is
put
forth
mostly
by
the
long
range
planning
team.
As
far
as
major
developments,
you
know,
development
is
a
little
bit.
K
I
would
say
just
partially
down
from
the
previous
two
years,
but
we
had
a
significant
volume
of
applications
the
last
few
years.
So
maybe
this
is
more
in
kind
of
the
the
normal
category,
but
more
significant
developments,
8200
Humboldt,
currently
under
construction,
the
oxboro
Heights
senior
apartments,
just
off
Lindale
there
and
the
Seagate
technology
Edition.
K
You
know
all
of
these
are
pretty
significant
developments
that
were
reviewed
this
year
by
planning
commissioning
Council,
so
I'm
not
going
to
spend
too
much
time
about
naming
the
projects
here
on
these
next
few
slides,
but
I
really
want
to
highlight
to
you
is
that
the
way
that
we've
broken
it
out
in
the
work
plan
is
that
these
different
projects,
kind
of
fall
into
different
buckets,
so
I'm
more
just
focusing
on
the
buckets.
So
inevitably,
there's
not
a
neat
break
point
or
clean
ending
to
these
projects
within
a
particular
year.
K
It's
always
the
case
that
some
of
our
long-range
planning
projects
carry
over
into
the
following
year,
and
so
I
just
want
to
highlight
a
couple
of
those
that
you
would
have
seen
on.
Your
last
year's
work
plan
identify
those
for
you
and
then
identify
new
projects,
as
well
as
other
ongoing
and
supportive
projects
that
fall
in
different
categories
as
well.
I
should
have
known
her
when
I
started.
The
Julie
long
is
here
with
me
tonight
too.
The
city
engineer,
presenting
so
I'll
hand
it
off
to
her
at
when
the
time
is
right.
K
As
far
as
new
projects
go
this
year,
you
can
see
I
think
it's
a
fairly
ambitious
list,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
want
to
tackle
next
year,
as
I
said,
I'll
get
into
the
individual
projects
as
we
go,
but
that's
these
are
the
the
new
projects
that
we
would
be
contemplating
after
wrapping
up
some
of
our
carryover
work
and
I
should
say
that
this
is
the
projects
that
we're
identifying
is.
K
This
is
more
discrete
planning
projects
as
opposed
to
projects
that
are
led
by
staff
and
other
departments
or
divisions
within
the
city,
where
planning
kind
of
plays
a
more
support
of
our
collaborative
role,
ongoing
and
supportive
projects.
We
collaborate
with
a
wide
variety
of
different
departments
throughout
the
city,
the
the
planner
skill
set
with
mapping.
You
know
data
analysis,
other
things,
facilitation
comes
in
handy,
so
we
certainly
collaborate
quite
a
bit.
K
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we
do
an
ongoing
and
supportive
basis,
both
in
Community,
Development
and
outside
here
in
this
bucket
I.
Just
have
the
projects
broken
out
that
specifically
tied
to
transportation,
maybe
we'll
Circle
back
to
this
slide
later.
But
just
a
note
for
you
that,
currently,
with
the
projects
that
we
have
included
in
our
work
plan,
I
want
to
note
that
there
is
we're
estimating
a
demand
on
the
demand
side
of
4550
hours
of
of
need
of
hours
with
it
coming
from
the
planning
department.
K
Certainly
other
departments
also
contribute
to
these
projects,
as
it's
broken
out
in
your
work
plan.
This
is
discrete
planning
hours.
Only
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
as
we
as
I
kind
of
showed,
the
the
the
staff
Staffing
structure
and
staff
capacity.
What
we
calculate
currently
is
that
we
have
4174
hours
to
contribute
to
these
long-range
planning
projects.
K
Now,
certainly
that
falls
a
little
bit
shy
of
the
the
goal
and
we'll
talk
about
why
a
couple
things
to
know
just
on
the
supply
side
is
that
we
are
budgeting
a
modest
amount
of
hours,
from
our
planning
tax
to
help
contribute
to
long-range
planning
projects.
It
helps
in
us
training
and
development,
of
certainly
of
that
staff,
but
also
helps
the
planners
working
on
those
projects
and
then-
and
this
also
takes
into
account
those
splits
with
respect.
K
I
talked
about
a
50,
50,
hybrid
planner
and
then
the
80
20
HRA
planning
split,
so
that
is
reflected
in
in
that
number,
and
so
in
terms
of
why
would
we,
you
know,
propose
the
amount
of
projects
that
exceed
our
staff
capacity?
A
couple
thoughts
about
that
one
is
that
have
we
found
and
from
year
to
year,
it's
quite
often
the
case
that
some
of
these
projects
stretch
into
the
following
year.
K
So
certainly,
you
know
there's
some
projects
that
we
can
talk
about
specifically
in
the
second
half,
the
the
third
and
fourth
quarter
of
2023
that
have
the
the
probability
or
likelihood
to
extend
into
the
following
year.
That's
part
of
that
analysis.
Part
of
it
is
also
that
some
of
the
projects
that
are
budgeted
in
the
work
plan
may
or
may
not
require
the
amount
of
hours
that
we've
budgeted
for
them.
K
So
for
an
example,
we're
budgeting
I
think
it
was
150,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
hours
towards
Transportation
studies,
Corridor
studies
right
now,
there's
not
a
corridor
study
identified
in
the
engineering
scope
of
work,
although
there's
been
discussion
of
one
so
I,
possibly
coming
forward.
So
that's
an
example
where
we're
budgeting
and
allocating
some
time
to
something
that's
not
quite
clearly
described
quite
yet
or
definite.
K
I
should
say
the
other
thing
as
I
said
too,
is
that
just
with
our
staffing
model,
if
the
development
side
of
things
is
slower
next
year,
it's
hard
to
forecast
that
precisely,
but
that
does
allow
us
to
pull
more
resources
into
these
long-range
planning
projects
as
well.
So
I
do
want
to
highlight
that,
and
if
we
don't
get
everything
done
in
our
work
plan,
then
certainly
some
of
those
would
fall
in
the
carryover
category,
or
certainly
with
feedback
from
Planning,
Commission
and
Council.
We
can
also
know
what
projects
have
greater
priority
than
others
as
well.
K
I
believe
there's
been
a
question
last
few
years,
is
how
does
we?
How
do
we
estimate
time
for
projects?
K
Glenn's
certainly
been
doing
this
for
longer
than
I
have,
but
so,
if
he
wants
to
add
anything,
I'm
going
to
say,
I
don't
have
the
actual
our
the
the
full
spreadsheet
here
within
the
slides.
But
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
all
of
we
have
these
kind
of
project
tasks
that
I
have
on
my
slide
for
all
these
long-range
planning
projects
that
we
propose
and
So
based
on
kind
of
you
know
similar
or
comparable
projects
from
prior
years.
K
We
have
kind
of
a
good
handle
or
idea
of
you
know,
depending
on
the
complexity
of
the
project,
the
type
of
project.
You
know
how
much
Community
engagement
is
going
to
be
involved
with
the
project.
It
kind
of
allows
us
to
put
different
hour
allotments
in
these
different
buckets
of
all
of
our
projects
and
that's
ultimately
going
project
by
project
with
all
these
buckets.
K
That's
how
we
get
to
the
the
total
estimation
so
getting
into
the
projects
themselves,
I'm
not
going
to
belabor
projects
that
you're
very
familiar
with,
because
we've
been
working
on
them
recently.
So
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that.
Unless
there's
questions
and
I
also
add
that
if
there's
you
know,
certainly
we
could
talk
about
individual
projects
in
more
detail.
If
there
are
questions
about
any
of
them,
so
I'm
getting
to
the
specific
individual
projects.
K
So
the
up
the
single
and
two
family
zoning
update
that's
anticipated
to
go
to
City
Council
here
right
after
the
new
year.
So
that's
in
process.
We
do
include
that
as
a
carryover
project,
the
the
transitional
industrial
zoning
District-
that
was
an
outgrowth
of
the
Lindale
Avenue
retrofit
plan.
That
is
also
in
process,
so
we're
anticipating
that
that
will
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
in
January
and
anticipated
to
go
to
City
Council
in
February.
K
We've
done
a
study
session
on
that
one
recently,
so
I,
don't
think
I
need
to
discuss
that
one
in
too
great
a
detail.
The
sign
ordinance
update.
This
is
a
you
know
with
some
of
the
Staffing
Transitions
and
people
taking
on
new
roles.
This
is
one
that
maybe
is
a
little
further
behind
than
what
we
would
like.
K
But
you
know
a
complex.
You
know.
Zoning
ordinances
can
be
very
complex,
so
we're
digging
into
that
we're
getting
some
legal
support
on
that
one
as
well,
given
all
the
case
law
around
signs
that
have
come
out
the
last
several
years,
so
a
complex
project
I
think
currently
we're
budgeting
for
that
one
to
go
through
I
want
to
say
May
of
next
year
that
hopefully
we'll
wrap
that
one
up
by
that
point,
single
room,
occupancy
I,
would
say
in
addition
to
science.
K
This
is
one
project
that
was
identified
on
the
2022
work
plan
that
we
just
did
not
move
forward
or
get
off
the
ground
with
some
of
the
Staffing
changes,
and
so
that's
something
that
that
will
come
forward
here
likely
to
study
sessions
and
we'll
try
and
seek
some
direction
from
Planning
Commission
city
council
and
likely
some
collaboration
with
the
HRA
as
well.
In
terms
of
evaluating
the
city's
existing
standards
related
to
sros
and
evaluating
kind
of
best
practices
from
other
jurisdictions
and
identify
some
potential
policy
changes
or
Solutions
there.
K
The
zoning
code
reorganization.
You
know
this
isn't
a
snazzy
project,
but
it's
something
that
we've
needed
to
do
for
a
long
period
of
time.
For
those
of
you
that
dig
into
our
code
more
regularly
you'll
note
that
the
zoning
code
has
actually
two
chapters
within
it:
chapter
19
and
21,
with
our
more
kind
of
I
guess:
I'll
use
the
term
modern
or
more
recent
content
in
chapter
21,
with
the
older
content
being
in
chapter
19..
K
This
is
more
of
a
clerical
and
kind
of
just
a
Workhorse
project
of
just
getting
everything
moved
over
to
chapter
21.
So
hopefully
we
can
consolidate
the
zoning
code
in
one
place,
make
it
a
little
less
complex
for
everyday
users
or
just
general
users.
It's
a
tough
project,
because
it's
kind
of
like
putting
a
puzzle
together,
there's
cross
references
all
over
the
code,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
labor
intensive
in
terms
of
getting
everything
in
the
right
spot
and
getting
all
those
cross
references,
correct,
missing,
middle
housing
standards.
K
This
is
something
that
we
reviewed
at
a
study
session
fairly
recently.
The
city
council
also
did
that
as
well,
and
they
were
very
supportive
of
pursuing
Missing
mental
housing
standards
and
doing
a
study
about
that.
So
we're
forecasting
to
kind
of
tackle
that
in
the
middle
of
the
year
and
look
at
those
different
housing
types
and
how
they
can
be,
you
know
shaped
and
made
appropriate
with
kind
of
in
other
low
density
areas
and
such
so
that's
something
we'll
tackle
in
the
middle
part
of
the
year
short-term
rental
regulations.
K
K
The
the
pause
button
was
pushed
on
that
project,
just
given
with
all
the
uncertainty
and
kind
of
what
was
happening
in
the
hotel
market
around
that
time
as
well,
so
something
that
we
want
to
revisit
after
hitting
the
pause
pause
button
on
that
one
pickup
window
and
parking
standards,
you
know,
as
a
kind
of
restaurant
and
other
retail
uses,
have
innovated
their
own
operations
of
how
people
collect
and
procure
products.
K
K
Our
annual
miscellaneous
issues-
ordinance,
of
course
we
do
that
every
year.
I,
don't
think
I
need
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that
one.
K
Okay,
now
moving
into
the
category
of
plans
and
special
projects,
so
we
have
some
kind
of
unique
and
interesting
things
on
the
work
plan
this
year.
The
resilient
communities
project
is
a
program
at
the
University
of
Minnesota,
where
they
partner
with
local
governments,
sometimes
up
to
even
County
governments
on
projects
that
kind
of
check
a
couple
boxes:
sustainability,
resiliency,
Equity,
other
things
that
their
program
is
part
of
their
mission.
K
But
we
we
filed
an
application,
last
fall
and
we
were
lucky
to
be
matched
with
actually
two
Capstone
projects
at
the
Humphrey
School
of
public
affairs
for
some
graduate
level
planning
students.
So
it's
something
we're
pretty
excited
about
what
they're
going
to
be
tasked
with,
as
looking
at
kind
of
looking
at
both
land
use
policy
and
housing
policy
and
investments
in
housing
that
the
city
has
made
in
order
to
kind
of
capture.
What
is
the
return
on
investment
of
kind
of
some
of
the
policy
decisions
that
the
city
has
made
in
those
two
Arenas?
K
So
it'll
be
pretty
interesting.
It'll
probably
involve
some
analysis
of
kind
of
assessing
data,
cost
of
Public
Services
by
land
use
kind
of
looking
at
what
some
of
the
impacts
are
of
investments
in
affordable
housing
in
the
community
and
other
things.
So
it's
something
we're
excited
about,
and
I
think
the
students
most
likely
will
be
making
a
presentation
at
some
point
to
your
very
body,
hopefully
so
something
kind
of
outside
the
box.
There
plan
that
Council
systems
system
statement.
So
for
those
of
you
who
track
Regional
governance,
you
know
not.
K
Cities
all
have
their
comprehensive
plans.
The
Mac
Council
has
their
Regional
plans,
so
in
their
last
cycle,
they've
updated
their
Regional
Transportation
plan,
as
well
as
their
Regional
Parks
plan,
and
so
when
they
go
through
those
Cycles
cities
are
required
to
update
their
comprehensive
plans
to
ensure
consistency
between
those
updates
within
a
certain
period
of
time.
So
in
this
particular
case,
the
city
is
required
to
update
our
comp
plan
to
come
into
consistency,
I
think
by
June
of
next
year.
K
K
So
in
terms
of
why
the
the
planning
department
is
part
of
leading,
that
is
because
it
really
plays
a
large
role
in
what
development
is
feasible
in
different
areas
of
the
of
the
community
and
so
we're
taking
a
leadership
role
with
this
project,
but
it
will
be
heavily
collaborative
with
the
city's
public
works
department,
Finance
legal,
other
departments
that
are
involved
in
kind
of
these
high-level
policies
surrounding
fees
or
raising
money
for
Capital
Improvements,
so
yeah,
some
just
general
rezonings.
K
We
are
budgeting
some
time
for
some
additional
rezonings
that
were
recommended
in
the
Lindale
Avenue
retrofit.
These
are
probably
pretty
targeted
and
smaller
in
scope,
but
that
was
one
of
the
strategies
associated
with
the
retrofit
plan,
so
now
moving
into
the
buckets
of
ongoing
and
supportive
initiatives.
This
is
the
one
on
your
screen.
Here
is
something
that
actually
started
last
year,
but
Sustainable
Building
and
design
practices
and
standards.
K
I
think
they've
hit
the
pause
button,
a
little
bit
or
kind
of
slowed
the
process
down
a
little
bit
to
do
more
engagement
frankly,
as
well
as
do
more
legal
analysis
in
terms
of
what's
feasible
for
what's
required
versus
what
is
recommended
or
what
can
the
city
incentivize
with
respect
to
Sustainable,
Building
or
site
characteristics.
So
this
is
something
that
the
the
planning
department
does
staff
on
a
collaboration
or
a
support
basis,
but
it's
being
led
by
our
sustainability
staff,
health
and
all
policies.
K
This
is
a
collaborative
project
being
led
by
public
health,
but
you
know
the
cross-sections
between
public
health
and
planning
and
zoning
and
housing
and
many
other
Arenas.
The
research
of
that
continues
to
rise,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
is
being
explored
is
whether
or
not
the
city
should
adopt
a
health
and
all
policies
approach
to
some
of
our
other
activities.
K
So
this
could
take
on
multiple
forms.
It
could
end
up
being
potentially
some
city
code
amendments.
It
could
be
evaluating
certain
policy
changes
that
the
city
does
through
like
a
health
checklist
or
a
health
assessment
checklist
it
could.
This
one
could
go
in
several
directions,
but
it's
important
that
planning
has
a
seat
at
that
table,
because
it's
likely
a
lot
of
the
work
we
would
do
would
would
be
touched
on
by
a
health
and
all
in
health
and
all
policies
approach,
another
ongoing
and
supportive
project.
K
This
circling
back
to
sustainability,
again
and
kind
of
our
GIS
staff,
but
they're
doing
a
wide
range
of
mapping
around
the
community
to
identify
different
environmental
hazards.
You
know
insufficient
tree
canopy,
many
other
things
that
relate
to
Canada
people's.
You
know
housing
and
quality
of
life
in
terms
of
locationally
where
they
live
in
the
community,
and
so
this
is
pretty
early
on
in
the
process,
but
staff
also
does
planning.
Staff
does
participate
in
this
collaborative
project
as
well
ongoing
in
support
of
initiative,
so
commercial
node
Redevelopment.
K
K
Most
recently,
we've
been
working
on
Old,
Cedar,
Old
Shakopee
and
trying
to
work
with
various
landowners
and
developers
to
kind
of
stimulate
ideas,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
budget
for
that,
as
planning
staff
works
with
works
on
these
kind
of
collaborative
groups
within
Community
Development
to
look
at
Commercial
Metal
Redevelopment
housing.
This
will
mostly
be
the
responsibility
of
a
new
planner
coming
on
board
who's
going
to
fit
in
that
80.
20
planning,
HRA
role,
but
planning
department
is
involved
with
city
code
amendments
related
to
housing,
particularly
the
opportunity,
housing
ordinance.
K
But
also
is
heavily
involved
in
preparing
the
annual
housing
report
and
doing
a
whole
wide
variety
of
demographic
analysis,
Data,
Tracking,
kind
of
regional
Trends
related
to
housing,
as
well
as
some
public
engagement.
So
that'll
continue
as
well
Equity
initiatives,
the
the
planning
department
is
pretty
heavily
involved
in
the
community
development,
racial
Equity
action
team.
K
Each
department
has
a
Reit,
it's
called
a
racial
Equity
action
team,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
programs
and
kind
of
different
initiatives
that
are
being
born
out
of
the
city's
re
teams
and
the
Community
Development
one
is
pretty
active
and
the
planning
department
is
our
active
participants
in
that.
So
certainly
we
want
a
budget
for
that.
K
The
just
Deeds
program
supports
some
of
you
participated
in
this
program.
It's
anticipated
that
some,
you
know
some
modest
amount
of
staff
time
will
continue
to
support
that
project.
It's
not
it's,
probably
not
that
significant,
but
you
know,
as
people
continue
at
the
work
or
people
at
the
city
continue
to
help
support
expunging,
racially
discriminatory
covenants
on
Deeds,
sometimes
planning
staff
gets
called
in
to
help
with
that
as
well
and
I
believe
they've
participated
in
some
Community
engagement
events
for
it
as
well.
K
So
here
is
where
we'll
turn
to
Julie
along
the
city
engineer,
and
she
will
talk
about
our
transportation
and
Transit
projects
as
well
as
give
you
some
updates
on
some
other
plans
and
programs
going
on
in
the
city.
So
thank
you.
Julie.
L
Thanks
Nick,
some
of
the
projects
that
we've
worked
on
in
our
continuing
to
work
on
in
the
transportation
realm
is
the
98th
Street
Corridor
study
that
has
been
underway
for
a
good
portion
of
this
year,
but
it
will
continue
into
2023
and
is
looking
to
wrap
up
around
June.
L
We're
gonna
be
doing
some
more
engagement
with
the
community
on
that
we're
also
in
2023,
be
working
on
the
neighborhood
traffic
Management
program
and
the
electric
vehicle
infrastructure
plan.
As
part
of
our
bike,
ped
initiatives
we're
updating
our
active
Transportation
plan
and
Transit
projects.
L
We
will
be
starting
later
in
2023,
the
American
Boulevard
Transit
waste
study
that
we
committed
to
do
with
Metro
Transit,
we'll
continue
with
our
proactive
traffic
calming
projects,
and
then
we
have
a
couple
Regional
issues,
the
Riverview
Corridor
planning
is
still
underway
and
then
finally,
the
494
design
build
construction
project
should
get
started
here
in
2023,
and
that
has
a
big
impact
on
our
community
next
slide.
L
So,
at
the
last
Planning
Commission
meeting,
we
were
asked
to
give
a
strategic
or
an
update
on
a
couple
different
items,
one
of
which
was
the
Strategic
Transportation
Plan
update
and
the
first
update
I
have
on
that
plan.
Is
it
got
renamed
and
it
got
morphed
into
the
neighborhood
traffic
management
plan
on
that
contract
was
just
awarded
on
Monday
night
and
Kim.
Lee
horn
is
the
Consultants
that
was
chosen.
L
They
are
going
to
be
looking
at
speed
limits
and,
along
with
that,
the
speed
awareness
program
they're
going
to
continue
to
look
at
what
engineering
currently
does
with
our
proactive
traffic
Management
program
with
the
PMP,
but
they
may
might
also,
depending
on
what
kind
of
Engagement
level
we
get
look
at
changing
the
street
sections.
I
know
we've
had
some
discussions
about.
That
is,
is
now
the
appropriate
time
to
consider
moving
those
curb
and
gutters
to
make
narrower
streets
or
or
what
is
our
next
step.
So
that
would
be
part
of
the
study.
L
Planning
Commission
is
well
aware
that
Louisiana
is
our
first
neighborhood
and
our
only
neighborhood
who
went
through
our
whole
process
to
petition
the
city
to
do
something
different
with
their
Road
and
that
process.
As
we
all
reviewed
it
is
fairly
cumbersome.
So
we
want
to
streamline
it
and
make
it
much
more
usable
for
our
neighborhoods
and
then
one
other
aspect
of
the
neighborhood
traffic
management
plan
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
dovetailing
into
the
park
Masters
plant,
Mark,
Park
master
plan
and
their
updates?
L
L
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
all
of
that
we'll
also
be
doing
a
lot
of
neighborhood
engagement
with
this
plan
and
I
talked
to
both
planner
Johnson
and
Mr
marker
guard
and
we're
going
to
send
out,
invites
to
the
Planning
Commission
so
that
you
know
when
those
engagement,
public
engagement
meetings
are
happening.
Of
course,
we're
going
to
post
them
on,
let's
talk,
Bloomington
In
The
City
website,
but
this
will
just
be
another
heads
up
to
you
if
you
wanted
to
attend
those
as
well.
Next
slide.
L
We're
calling
it
part
one,
because
one
of
the
unique
conditions
of
the
grant
is
they're
not
doing
a
whole
lot
of
community
outreach,
so
we'll
be
looking
to
hire
consultant
to
help
us
with
the
engagement
of
that
program
and
the
planning
process
just
started
in
November
teresoma
is
the
consultant
and
we're
expecting
to
conclude
that
in
2023
it
will
be
a
city-wide
effort
that
includes
the
special
development
districts
like
Pan
American
and
South
Loop,
and
one
of
the
hopes
that
staff
has
for
this
active
Transportation
Plan
update
is
that
it's
going
to
be
less
opportunistic
and
more
deliberative
improvements
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is.
L
With
the
last
update,
we
looked
for
opportunities
when
we
had
road
construction,
either
with
a
Federal
Grant
or
with
the
pavement
Management
program,
to
do
some
of
our
improvements
for
sidewalks
and
trails.
Well,
that
hasn't
helped
our
connectivity
of
our
system.
Our
system
wasn't
connected
before
that,
and
now,
with
these
piecemeal
updates,
it's
it's
still
not
very
connected
and
usable.
L
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
go
out
to
connect
those
disparate
links
so
that
it's
a
continuous
system
and
that's
going
to
be
a
more
challenging
for
Planning,
Commission
and
Council,
because
there's
probably
going
to
be
pushback
from
the
neighborhoods.
There
will
be
some
right-of-way
Acquisitions,
but
we
think
in
the
long
run.
Those
tough
choices
today
will
make
an
easier
system
in
the
future,
more
usable
for
the
users.
L
Next
slide,
continuing
on
the
sidewalk
and
trails
update,
you're
going
to
be
like
well,
these
aren't
exactly
sidewalking
Trail
items
and
you're
right,
but
they
kind
of
feed
into
the
sidewalk
and
Trail
program
in
2023
engineering
is
going
to
be
looking
at
the
PMP
program,
and
this
is
mainly
how
we
Finance
different
things.
So
right
now
we
have
our
reconstructs
our
overlays,
our
seal
codes.
L
Is
there
a
way
we
can
reallocate
some
of
those
funds
to
allow
more
bike,
trails
and
sidewalk
installation
to
happen,
or
are
there
other
things
that
we
could
be
doing
so
we'll
be
looking
at
right,
sizing
that
program
for
today
and
then
the
other
thing
it
kind
of
tail
ties
into
that,
because
some
of
the
funding
for
the
PMP
overlay
and
the
PMP
Trails
comes
from
the
franchise
fees
and
we
committed
to
updating
the
franchise
fees
every
two
years,
except
for
our
covid
year.
So
we
we'll
be
also
looking
at
that.
This.
E
I
K
Great,
thank
you
Julie.
One
thing
that
I
just
realized
well
Julie
was
speaking,
is
that's
I,
don't
know
how
this
happened,
but
I
think
I
lost
a
couple
of
slides
in
my
project.
K
My
specific
projects
I
realized
that
the
slides
on
the
South,
Loop,
District
Plan,
update
the
South
Loop
auar,
and
also
the
World
Expo
support,
somehow
got
lost
in
my
slides,
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
happened,
but
just
to
talk
about
those
three
items
briefly
for
a
moment
both
with
the
South
Loop
District
plan,
as
well
as
the
auar,
the
South
Loop
District
plan
has
not
been
updated
for
10
years.
It's
been
something
that
we've
contemplated
updating
for
the
last
I
was
identified
last
year
as
a
potential
future
project.
K
So
as
we're
presenting
it
to
you
this
evening,
we
are
including
it.
We
did
include
the
brackets
if
necessary,
as
well
as
with
that
on.
The
auar
update.
So
certainly
welcome
your
feedback
on
that,
but
budgeting
both
those
items
for
the
second,
the
Third
and
fourth
quarter
of
the
year
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
that
the
it's
anticipated
that
the
the
World
Expo
award
for
their
award
site
is
going
to
happen
right
at
the
midpoint
of
the
year.
So
at
that
point,
we'll
have
a
much
firmer
understanding.
K
What
we're
preparing
for
in
terms
of,
if
we're
looking
at
preparing
for
an
expo
in
the
South
Loop
in
2027
or
if
we're
not
that's,
pretty
critical
information
for
both
of
those
projects
specific
to
the
auar.
If
it's
not
if
the
city
were
not
awarded
as
the
host
site,
it's
likely
that
we
would
not
need
to
update
the
auar,
because
we
just
completed
an
auar
update
last
year.
If
you
recall,
the
Expo
really
would
be
very
much
the
driver
for
that
update
the
South
Loop
District
plan
not
as
much.
K
There
could
be
some
compelling
reasons
to
to
look
at
updating
that
plan.
As
I
mentioned
it
was,
the
last
update
was
adapted
in
2012..
We
want
to
you
know.
Certainly,
some
existing
conditions
within
the
South
Loop
area
have
changed
a
fair
amount
just
from
land
use
and
other
elements
happening
and
kind
of
traffic
patterns
and
other
things.
So
one
identifying
that
in
the
plan
do
have
kind
of
just
those
Expo
caveats
with
it,
but
one
might
be
a
more
compelling
reason
than
the
other
or
more
attached
to
one
than
the
other.
K
If
that
makes
sense,
the
the
World
Expo
component
that
was
included
in
you
can
kind
of
see
it
in
the
screen
there
in
the
the
secondary
or
the
second
half
plan.
It's
it's
really.
What
that's
about
is
planning
staff
support
for
the
World
Expo,
something
that
we're
being
pulled
in
on
to
collaborate
on
is
kind
of
thinking
through
what
the
regulatory
environment
will
look
like
for
that,
and
it's
it's
obviously
a
very
unique
situation,
and
so
as
plans
for
that
continue
to
develop.
K
That's
something
that
staff
that
planning
staff
often
and
gets
pulled
into
as
part
of
a
broader
collaborative
team.
On
that
front,
so
I
wanted
to
highlight
those
three
things:
I,
don't
know
how
I
lost
the
slide
for
that
I
apologize,
but
yeah
the
the
actual
slide
before
you.
This
is
something
we
prepare
for
you
every
year.
This
is
the
project,
timing
and
prioritization
Matrix,
and
so
we're
really
what
this
is
identifying
is
kind
of
how
we
see
the
year
playing
out
in
an
under
ideal
circumstances.
K
You
know
if
some
of
these
Priority
One
or
early
year,
projects
get
delayed
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
You
know
it
puts
further
strain
on
some
of
the
the
second
priority
or
second
half
project,
certainly,
but
as
we're
balancing
not
only
just
a
a
bucket
of
hours
for
the
planning
staff.
We're
always
we're
also
trying
to
think
through.
Okay
staff
has
capacity.
Planning
Commission
has
capacity.
City
council
has
capacity.
K
You
have
to
balance
all
of
those
things
over
the
course
of
the
full
year,
as
opposed
to
kind
of
trying
to
aim
all
at
kind
of
the
latter
part
of
the
year
to
bring
all
these
things
to
fruition.
It
just
wouldn't
function.
Well,
so
that's
our
attempt
to
do
that.
Something!
That's
new.
This
year
is
this
supplemental
Matrix
that
we
provided
in
your
packet.
Some
of
this
content
has
been
provided
to
you
before
and
that's
specifically
related
to
community
and
Community
engagement.
So
the
city
of
Bloomington
subscribes
to
the
International
Association
of
public
participation.
K
Model
of
Outreach
and
engagement.
I'll
show
you
on
the
next
slide
kind
of
what
those
different,
what
the
spectrum
of
public
participation
is,
but
the
first
column
in
the
supplemental
Matrix
has
to
do
with
what
we're
anticipating
is
the
appropriate
level
of
community
or
public
participation
in
these
different
projects,
and
certainly,
as
we
kind
of
plan
out
and
schedule
things,
but
also
budget
hours.
That
has
a
important
element
of
you
know
how
much
time
is
planning
staff
gonna
have
to
dedicate
to
doing
public
participation
and
Outreach
events
depending
on
the
nature
of
the
project.
K
So
that's
what
you
see
in
the
First
Column,
the
second
column,
is
we
just
wanted
to
clearly
identify
project
that
we
were.
We
could
put
it
in
three
buckets,
we're
confident.
Yes,
there's
a
Planning
Commission
required
role
as
part
of
this,
maybe
maybe
there's
a
role
and
then
on
a
few
projects.
Not
many
I
think
there
was
we
identified
as
no
formal
role
that
doesn't
mean
you
certainly
can't
participate
in
those
projects.
K
It
just
means
that
not
required
by
city
code
or
kind
of
in
your
advisory
capacity
as
kind
of
the
charge
of
the
Planning
Commission.
The
third
column
in
the
supplemental
Matrix
has
to
do
with
where
we
think
there's
opportunities
to
collaborate
with
other
boards
and
commissions.
I
know
that
you
all
had
a
couple
collaborative
or
joint
meetings
with
the
HRA
I
know.
There's
been
some
desire
to
maybe
even
look
at
some
other
boards
and
commissions
of
where
your
priorities
align
and
we're
kind
of
opportunities
to
collaborate
exist.
K
So
we're
certainly
going
to
look
at
that,
and
this
is
our
attempt
to
kind
of
identify
What
in
terms
of
the
projects
that
we're
putting
forth.
Where
are
these
opportunities
for
collaboration?
It
might
not
always
take
the
form
of
a
joint
meeting.
It
could
be
planning
staff
going
to
present
at
the
HRA.
You
know
we're
working
on
sros
we're
working
on
missing
middle
housing
because
there's
certainly
other
boards
and
commissions
that
take
a
keen
interest
in
some
of
the
things
that
we're
working
on.
K
So
it
might
just
be
a
information
sharing
and
kind
of
getting
their
feedback
as
well.
So,
as
we
kind
of
lay
out
these
projects,
we'll
continue
to
track
that
and
kind
of
think
about
opportunities
for
collaboration.
I
know,
Glenn
will
think
about
opportunities
for
joint
meetings
where
they're
appropriate
or
where
we
can
get.
You
know
multiple
items
on
one
agenda
in
order
to
kind
of
maximize
the
efficiency
of
that
Julie
long
mentioned
the
Strategic
plan.
K
In
the
fourth
column
we
do
have,
we
do
want
to
identify
areas
that
these
projects
are
consistent
with
the
different
strategies
of
the
Strategic
plan,
so
we're
tying
back
to
that.
It
was
a
very
robust,
Community,
Driven
effort.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
consistent
here
again
is
that
spectrum
of
public
participation
I
believe
this
was
shared
with
you
last
year.
But
if
not
here
it
is
basically
it
goes
from
kind
of
the.
On
the
left
hand,
side
is
the
the
lower
level
of
public
participation.
K
All
the
way
to
the
Empower
side
is
the
greatest
level.
So
it's
just
kind
of
thinking
about
kind
of
what
the
what
role
public
participation
will
play
in
the
end
product
and
policy
that
you
or
the
city
council
adopts
future
projects.
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that
right
now,
but
you
can
see
just
some
things
that
have
been
discussed
and
contemplated
as
part
of
pla.
Past
efforts
right
now,
I
think
our
list
is
pretty
ambitious
as
it
is
so
there
might
be
some.
K
You
know
some
of
these
things
might
slip,
but
I
hope
not,
but
as
as
we
continue
to
go
on,
and
certainly
the
Expo
could
be
a
driver
or
other
significant
changes
next
year,
we'll
continue
to
add
to
this
list
as
we
contemplate
our
2024
work
plan.
K
So
these
are
the
kind
of
same
particular
questions
that
have
been
provided
to
you
in
the
past
should
any
projects
on
either
the
23
or
24
list
be
removed.
Should
any
projects
be
added
in
your
estimation?
And
finally,
should
any
projects
be
re-prioritized?
K
A
All
right,
thank
you.
All
this
is
very
good
work.
I
know.
A
lot
of
effort
goes
into
planning
where
to
put
the
effort.
So
thank
you
for
that
discussion
and
our
questions
for
staff.
F
Mr
Johnson,
the
the
one
item
that
sticks
out
to
me
is
the
South
Loop
District
Plan
update.
That's
something
I've
mentioned
before
I'd
like
to
see
an
update
too,
and
it
remains
something
I
want
to
see
an
update
to
I
understand.
We
should
wait
until
after
the
world's
Expo
has
been
determined,
and
hopefully
we're
successful
in
that,
and
that
changes
our
our
approach
a
little
bit.
But
even
if
we're
not
awarded
the
Expo
I
do
think
that
plan
needs
an
update.
F
That
I
think
has
the
potential
to
be
a
park
and
we're
not
maybe
totally
sure
if
it
can
or
not
I'd
like
to
see
us
look
into
that
and
find
a
a
firm
Solution
on
what
that
could
or
could
not
be.
So
that's
the
thing
that
sticks
out
to
me
me
I
know
it
has
the
brackets
of,
if
necessary,
to
me
that
is
necessary
and
we
need
to
get
that
plan
updated
it's
it's
out
of
date
and
it
could
use
some
touching
up
the
rest
of
it.
F
I
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
definitely
a
lot
of
work
right.
A
lot
of
time
put
into
this.
It's
just
the
presentation
alone.
It's
it's
like
a
lot.
It's
well
done
so
I
I
truly
appreciate
all
those
putting
all
this
together
to
bring
it
to
us
tonight,
as
well
as
the
individual
work
that's
been
put
into
each
one
of
those
projects
throughout
throughout
the
years,
and
especially
the
last
this
last
year,
in
the
thoughts
of
what's
coming
next
for
the
list
that
you
have
for
other
initiatives.
I
Yeah
I
think
that's
the
one
you
just
went
to
the
big
one
yeah
when
you
have
yeah
that
one
yes
for
all
those
other
initiatives
where
there's
not
a
specific
time
set
I'm
guessing
it's
because
most
of
those
are
embedded
into
the
ones
in
green
in
blue
anyway,
but
just
looking
more
into
the
equity
initiatives,
it's
Equity
because
everything
we
do
has
to
be
related.
It
has
to
have
equity
related
to
to
any
to
any
of
them.
But
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
those
Equity
initiatives?
I
If
there's
something
else,
that's
that
we
are
maybe
expected
to
to
see
happening
that
we
haven't
heard
about
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
Please.
Thank
you.
K
Yeah
sure
Roman,
commissioner
Corman,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I'm
I
always
welcome
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
CD,
REITs
and
kind
of
different
activities
that
we're
doing
so
I
mean
number
one.
It's
just
a
really
great
opportunity
to
collaborate
with
staff
all
over
Community
Development.
It's
really
easy
to
kind
of
put
your
head
down
and
just
focus
on
whatever
roles
and
responsibilities
you're
charged
with
in
your
particular
division.
K
So
this
every
division
within
Community
Development
has
participants
and
members
who
kind
of
collaborate
on
projects
that
touch
all
of
us
as
opposed
to
kind
of
focus
on
our
particular
areas.
So
that's
one
significant
benefit
of
it,
but
it
also
just
you
know,
thinking
of
focusing
on
things
from
from
the
mission
or
from
the
charge
of
improving
racial
Equity,
getting
more
Equitable
outcomes
in
the
Arenas
of
housing.
Zoning
you
know.
K
Building
these
are
things
that
historically
have
not
been
very
favorable
to
advancing
racial
Equity
thinking
about
kind
of
the
last
100
years,
and
maybe
even
beyond
that.
But
it's
it's
things
that
touch
on
really
the
fundamental
Parts,
where
there
is
more
inequity
within
the
community
kind
of
housing
outcomes.
K
Other
elements-
Transportation
other
things,
so
you
know
we
work
on
a
wide
variety
of
things.
Similar
to
this
exercise
is
what
we're
doing
here
tonight.
We
actually,
the
the
CD
read,
actually
has
a
work
plan
and
so
we're
about
to
embark
on
updating
our
work
plan
for
the
2023
year
and
identify
all
sorts
of
new
projects.
But,
in
terms
of
you,
know
things
that
happened
last
year.
K
Some
of
it
involves
auditing
or
evaluating
our
city
code
to
see
if
there
are
areas
that
that
can
advance
racial
equity
in
terms
of
changing
our
you
know:
City
policy
there's
programming
things,
so
the
building
department,
for
example,
created
a
SAC
Credit
program
to
help
entrepreneurs
from
marginalized
communities,
kind
of
get
their
businesses
off
the
ground
so
with
Sac
fees
and
other
things,
we're
evaluating
other
projects,
projects
that
certainly
do
apply
or
are
relevant
to
Planning
and
Zoning.
We're
investigating
for
this
coming
year,
doing
maybe
a
facade
Improvement
program
at
businesses
and
other
things.
K
We've
also
done.
Some
we've
been
out
at
some
of
the
schools
doing
presentations
and
some
opportunities
to
kind
of
build
that
further
relationship
with
the
school
district,
I
think
is
good
and
getting
our
kind
of
our
names
and
faces
in
the
community,
and
so
they
know
who
we
are
and
frankly
know
that
there
are
opportunities
to
work
in
government
and
do
something
that
you're
passionate
about
and
get
those
opportunities
I.
K
You
know,
there's
things
that
CD
works
on
that
it's
not
solely
I,
don't
want
to
say,
claim
credit
for
it's
just
CD
read,
but
we're
also
talking
about
doing
a
Workforce
Development
program
or
at
least
CD
read.
Staff
is
involved
in
supporting
kind
of
the
design
and
getting
that
off
the
ground.
I
believe
it's
been
named,
Bloom
in
Bloomington
I,
don't
know
if
you've
heard
of
it,
but
it's
an
opportunity
to
work
with
students
or
residents
of
the
community
to
try
and
pair
them
with
internships
with
businesses
in
the
community.
K
So
these
are
the
this
is
kind
of
the
flavor.
The
type
of
things
that
CD
re
works
on
and
I
shouldn't
say
that
all
of
you
know
all
of
our
work
with
related
Equity
initiatives
is
solely
on
solely
on
CD
read.
There
are
other
things
that
we
do
get
pulled
into
for
our
for
our
guidance
or
for
our
expertise.
K
I
will
note
that
you
know
it's
kind
of
an
outgrowth
of
the
city's
Equity
staff
is
including
racial
Equity
impact
assessments
on
some
of
our
major
policies
that
we
look
at.
So
you
have
seen
probably
some
of
those
at
different
points
and
some
of
the
things
you've
reviewed,
reias,
they're
called
so
maybe
I'll
leave
it.
There
probably
I
get
a
little
excited.
E
E
Thank
you,
chair
well,
you've
shown
us
like
the
amount
of
work
you
guys
are
doing
and
we'll
be
doing
so.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work.
E
That's
happening,
something
that
I
would
love
to
see
in
upcoming
yearly
end
reports
like
these
are
like
adding
financials
to
it,
because
all
these
projects
by
name,
maybe
you
already
have
those
on
hand,
but
all
these
projects
are
like
giving
us
just
a
like
name
and
like
total
number
of
projects,
but
how
much
investment
actually
came
to
me
came
to
Bloomington
that
year,
whether
it
is
in
permit
value
or
estimated
project
cost,
because
you
have
to
do
to
determine
a
permit
I.
E
Imagine
you
look
at
the
estimated
project
cost
to
come
up
with
a
number,
but
those
are
really.
You
know
kind
of
helpful
things
to
look
at
or
things
that
we
can
celebrate
and
say.
This
is
how
much
investment
came
to
Bloomington,
so
I'd
love
to
see
that
be
incorporated
in
the
upcoming
presentations
for
the
next
year.
K
Yeah
chairman,
that's
a
great
suggestion.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
Our
timelines
probably
don't
fit
perfectly
with
assessing,
but
I
bet.
We
could
figure
something
out,
I,
don't
know
what
Glenn
thinks,
but
I
think
assessing
prepares
an
annual
or
in
building
I
would
think
in
terms
of
their
permit
Revenue,
but
I
don't
know.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add
Glenn
yeah.
F
Okay,
I
do
have
a
specific
question:
Mr
Johnson,
that
I
should
have
emailed
you,
because
there
may
not
be
somebody
to
answer
it,
but
on
your
future
projects
list,
you
had
Trailhead
connections
to
the
Minnesota
River
Valley.
That
was
also
included
at
our
meeting
a
month
or
so
ago,
when
we
reviewed
the
10-year
CIP,
and
that
was
in
the
2023
budget
to
do
some
of
the
trailheads
in
the
South
Loop
can.
B
K
Yeah
chairman
commissioner
cooked-
and
you
know
I
actually
am
not
the
most
adepter
a
Droid
person
to
answer.
That
is
that
is
that
the
right
use
of
that
word
person
to
answer
that
question.
Julie
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
feedback
there.
L
I
can
try
yeah,
we
are
looking
at
doing
a
trail
connection
near
the
Ceridian
parking
ramp,
but
we
need
to
acquire
some
right-of-way,
so
we've
started
to
look
investigate
that
process.
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
Miss
Long
yeah,
one
of
the
things
I
hear
just
in
my
neighborhood
as
a
South
Loop
president
is
people
are
very
excited
about
those
Trail
connections
and
they're.
Asking
me
when
they're
going
to
happen
and
I
know
it.
Some
of
it
was
included
in
the
2023
budget,
and
so
yeah
people
are
looking
for
those
and
I
think
that's
a
benefit
to
the
development
of
that
neighborhood.
If
we
can
show
you
know
developers,
look
you
can
get
down
to
the
river
valley
here.
F
You
don't
have
to
walk
a
mile
to
get
to
the
visitor
center
and
walk
back
down
if
that,
if
those
Trails
were
connected,
I
think
that
is
a
benefit
to
the
city
in
terms
of
development
and
and
everything
else
that's
happening
in
South,
Loop
and
so
prioritizing
that
work
and
and
starting
to
see
some
of
those
connections
get
made
is
a
priority
for
me
and
I
hope
to
see
that
happening
over
the
next
few
years.
A
I
will
just
Echo
some
of
the
things
that
my
colleagues
have
said.
I
think
to
commissioner
cookton's
point
I.
Think
the
South
Loop
update
I
think
the
is
point
of
the
question
of
what
the
scope
will
end
up
being
I.
Think
that
makes
sense
to
wait,
but
it
does
sound
like
and
I
defer
to
his
judgment.
A
As
someone
who
spends
more
time
in
the
area
than
I
do
that
if
and
I
know,
the
staff
feels
like
there's,
probably
some
need
for
update
whatever
the
scope
of
that
may
be
so
I
would
support,
keeping
that
in
there,
at
whatever
scope
feels
right,
come
July,
I
think
I've
forgotten
about
Runway
Park.
A
You
know
it
was
added
to
our
Parks
plan
at
some
point.
I
think
that's
a
that
would
be
maybe
as
part
of
the
world's
fair
that
would
be.
We
could
get
some
leverage
and
some
funds
to
to
do
that.
Absolutely
I
I.
Thank
you
engineer,
long
for
the
creative
approach
to
the
neighborhood
traffic
thing.
I.
Think
I
I
recognize
that
I
have
been
a
squeaky
voice
on
some
of
those
issues
for
a
while
I
like
the
idea
of
integrating
some
of
those
things.
A
L
L
A
Thank
you
and
I
think
just
a
point
of
feedback.
I.
Think
this
specific
slide
in
this
topic.
I
think
this
would
be
a
possibly
an
area
that
would
be
really
ripe
for
some
sort
of
a
joint
meeting
and
I
could
see.
You
know
based
on
some
of
the
conversations
I've
been
in
the
last
few
months.
You
know
this
gets
into
planning.
This
gets
into
sustainability.
This
gets
into
Equity.
This
gets
into
health
and
all
policies
this
gets
in
into
I
lost.
My
my
last
one
anyways.
A
The
point
is
it:
it
overlaps
a
lot
of
the
things
that
the
city
is
working
on
and
the
commissions
are
working
on,
and
so
I
could
see
this
just
this
topic
alone
being
an
area
where
there
could
be
some
rich
discussion
between
a
couple,
different
commissions
and
Boards,
as
well
as
to
you
mentioned
the
Strategic
plan,
it's
very
explicit
about
the
topic
of
alternative
transportation,
so
this
seems
like
one
where
you
know,
maybe
it's
with
the
consultant
as
well,
but
that
feels
like
an
area
where
we
could
have
some
cross
fertilization,
but
I
think
this
is
a
overall
a
good
plan
and
I.
K
Yeah
I
think
I'm
off
my
PowerPoint
game
tonight.
That's.
K
Live
something
but
yes,
it's
on
your
cover
sheet.
I
think
we're
looking
for
a
motion
to
wreck
to
provide
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
for
their
meeting
in
January.
K
B
A
I
A
Opposed
motion
passes:
this
will
be
on
the
January
9th
city
council
meeting
as
well.
It's
not
a
public
hearing,
but
it
will
be
there.
Thank
you
both
of
you
for
this
good
work
item
three
is
our
regular
policy
and
issue
update
and
I
will
look
to
the
planning
manager
for
the
items
he
has.
C
Chair
Roman,
commissioner,
is
looking
forward
to
your
next
meeting.
It's
January
12th
three
weeks
off
here
we
have
three
items
on
that
agenda.
We
have
a
privately
initiated
city
code,
Amendment
relating
to
use
new
use
definitions,
College,
University,
complementary
retail
and
complementary
medical
office
and
then
our
second
item.
We
have
a
city
code
amendments
adding
the
new
transitional
industrial
zoning
District.
You
reviewed
that
as
a
study
item.
C
C
A
A
Thank
you
any
other
items
for
to
bring
forward
at
this
time.
A
All
right,
seeing
that
I
once
again
thank
the
staff
for
their
great
work
this
year
and
look
forward
to
another
productive
year
in
the
city
in
2023,
and
with
that
this
commission
is
adjourned
until
January
12th.