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From YouTube: November 5, 2020 Bloomington Planning Commission Meeting
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Bloomington Minnesota Planning Commission Meeting
A
A
All
right
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
november
5th
bloomington
planning
commission
meeting
the
planning
commission
advises
the
city
council
on
development
proposals,
development
standards
and
long-range
planning
and
transportation
issues,
some
items.
The
planning
commission
has
final
decision
authority
and
others.
The
city
council
will
make.
The
final
decision
planning
commission
is
made
up
of
seven
volunteer
members
that
are
appointed
by
the
city
council
and
serve
up
to
three
year
terms.
A
A
B
Sure,
mr
chairman,
given
the
pandemic,
this
is
our
14th
remote
meeting.
We
have
just
two
people
here
in
the
council
chambers
yourself
and
me
all
the
planning
commissioners,
applicants
and
other
staff
members
are
remote
joining
via
webex.
B
B
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
right
tonight.
Our
first
item
is
a
consideration
for
the
planning
commission
on
a
tax
increment
financing
district
for
the
lindell
flats
area.
Cherry
showquist.
Could
you
give
us
a
staff
report?
Please.
C
Thank
you
so
before
you
tonight
is
the
lindell
flats
tax,
increment
financing
project
area.
This
project
may
be
familiar
to
you.
You
already
approved
this
project
last
september.
It
was
one
of
it
was
the
first
project
that
came
to
you
under
the
city's
opportunity:
housing
ordinance
for
affordable
housing,
it's
located
at
93,
20,
lindell
avenue
south
and
it's
1.755
acres.
C
C
They
will
remain
affordable
for
a
period
of
30
years.
The
development
will
be
four
stories
with
a
mix
of
one
two
and
three
bedroom
units
with
plenty
of
amenities.
Its
location
is
on
a
transit
corridor
in
the
gateway
district
and
construction
will
start
in
spring
of
2021.
C
The
planning
commission
is
responsible
for
fine
for
a
finding
of
consistency
with
the
general
development
plans
of
the
city
as
a
whole
and
among
the
many
statutory
findings
to
approve
a
tif
district.
The
planning
commission
has
that
one
goal
of
finding
that
the
tif
plan
conforms
to
the
plans
for
development
of
the
city.
C
This
project
provides
a
range
of
housing
choices
and
will
provide
affordable
housing
to
serve
local
demand.
The
calendar
of
events
is
slightly
different
tonight
than
the
presentation
and
the
report
you
received
in
your
commission
packet.
C
Some
of
the
dates
have
been
set
back
a
cycle,
but
it's
important
to
note
that
if
the
tif
comprehensive
plan
approval
is
approved
tonight,
parts
of
the
project
will
be
going
to
the
november
ninth
in
tenth
city,
council
and
hra
meeting
and
and
once
the
tif
is
approved
by
the
hra
on
november
10th.
It
will
be
going
to
the
city
council
on
november
23rd
the
development
agreement
and
and
final
documents
to
be
approved
by
the
hra
on
the
24th
and
the
land,
sale
and
finance.
C
Closing
at
the
end
of
november
mid-december
will
get
us
to
the
state
bond
closing
deadline
by
december
31st
of
this
year,
and
the
recommend
recommendation
is
before
you
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
and
michaela
hewitt.
Our
municipal
advisor
from
bakertilly
is
on
the
line.
If
there's
any
questions
for
her
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
the
staff
report
planning.
Commission
members.
Are
there
any
questions
for
sherry
showquist,
commissioner
goldsman.
A
All
right,
any
additional
questions
by
commission
members,
otherwise
I'll
remind
you
that
tonight
this
is
as
part
of
our
charge.
This
is
not
a
public
hearing.
It
is
simply
a
matter
of
the
planning
commission
having
discussion
and
making
a
recommendation
one
way
or
the
other
for
the
resolution
to
the
city
council.
A
Any
other
discussion,
questions
for
staff.
E
E
Just
a
question
for
steph:
I'm
not
familiar
with
this
project.
I
think
I
just
is
a
new
member
to
the
commission.
E
Is
there
a
reason
why
I
know
I
was
reading
the
report
on
the
staff
report
here?
It
says
at
least
20
percent
of
the
units
are
occupied
by
individuals
whose
income
is
50
or
less
of
the
area.
Media
income.
Does
that
also?
Just
for
my
own
clarity,
I
guess:
does
that
also
mean
like
30
percent
ami
individual
or
family
member
could
also
occupy
the
units.
C
Thank
you,
chair
solberg,
commissioner
abdi.
I
I
appreciate
your
question
so
when
tax,
when
affordable
housing
tax
increment
financing
is
made
available,
there
are
two
options:
one
is
for
20
of
the
units
to
be
affordable
at
the
50
percent
of
area
median
income
level.
The
other
is
for
40
of
the
units
to
be
affordable
at
the
60
ami
area,
median
income
level,
and
that
is
simply
to
qualify
for
the
tax
increment
financing.
C
It
is
our
goal
in
the
city
of
bloomington
to
provide
as
many
30
percent
of
area
median
income
units
as
possible.
However,
the
resources
and
funding
available
for
those
units
is
is
difficult
to
identify
lindale
flats.
The
developer
mwf
will
be
providing
100
of
the
units
affordable
to
the
sixty
percent
area
median
income,
but
are
agreeable
to
renting
to
section
eight
tenants
that
have
those
resources
and
also
if
the
city
through
our
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
or
any
other
new
fi
and
innovative
financing
tools
were
able
to
bring
to
the
development.
C
The
developer
would
be
willing
to
utilize
any
of
those
yet
to
be
identified.
Resources
to
provide
30
ami
units
within
the
development
that
is
standard
for
us
to
negotiate
with
within
our
development
agreements
under
the
opportunity,
housing
ordinance,
knowing
that
at
this
point
in
time,
we
may
not
have
all
of
the
30
ami
resources
available
that
we
would
like,
but
knowing
that
the
developers
would
be
willing
to
pursue
that
with
us
in
the
future
when
we
do
have
those
resources.
C
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
follow-up
questions.
E
A
Thank
you
all
right,
any
other
commissioners
with
questions
for
sure
show
quest.
A
All
right
at
this
point,
if
we
go
ahead
any
discussion
on
this
at
this
point
from
planning
commission
members.
A
I
guess
I
can
start
just
as
this
falls
under
our
purview
of
consistency
with
general
development
plans.
I
believe
again,
the
providing
housing
for
all
types
of
users
in
the
in
the
city
and
providing
affordable
housing
are
two
of
our
larger
initiatives
for
sure.
So
I
can.
I
am
confident
that
I
can
support
the
application
as
as
is
in
front
of
us
or
the
the
tax
increment
financing
district
and
the
findings
that
need
to
be
made.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
would
echo
your
comments
as
well
as
driving
by
that
that
property
for
many
years
it's
been
vacant
or
empty,
since
the
demolishment
of
the
bowling
alley
that
was
once
there.
So
I'm
in
support
of
the
financing
tax,
increment
financing
really
to
support
development
and
this
property
that's
been
paid
for
coming
up
on
10
years
of
my
memory.
A
Thank
you
any
other
discussion
from
commission
members.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
hope
to
adopt
the
resolution
as
attached
to
the
staff
report
concerning
the
lindell
flats
redevelopment
project
and
tax
increment
financing
district
proposal
of
the
city
of
bloomington
and
the
bloomington
housing
and
redevelopment
authority,
and
find
that
the
plans
are
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
for
the
city
of
bloomington.
A
D
A
Commissioner
cookton
hi
and
I
for
myself
that
resolution
moves
forward
as
indicated
earlier
to
the
what
it
I
still
have
it
on
here
november
9th.
Is
that
correct,
I
think,
yeah?
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
sherry
quest
for
that
we
will
now.
We
will
now
move
on
to
item
number
two,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
tlc
learning
center
liz
o'day.
You
have
the
staff
report
for
us.
G
All
right
so
item,
one
on
your
no,
not
item
one
item.
Two
on
your
agenda
tonight
is
for
a
daycare.
Enrollment
increase
a
transfiguration
lutheran
church
is
located
at
11
000
france
avenue
it
is
surrounded
by
single-family
homes.
The
daycare
tlc
learning
center
has
operated
inside
the
church.
Since
the
mid
1980s
through
various
temporary
conditional
use
permit
approvals.
G
G
Here
is
their
floor
plan.
Sorry
there's
a
lot
going
on
on
the
screen,
but
basically
the
daycare
would
primarily
use
the
education
wing
of
the
church,
which
is
circled
in
red
on
the
top
left
corner
of
the
screen,
and
then
they
have
additional
classroom
space
in
the
basement
as
well.
G
They
would
occasionally
use
the
large
fellowship
hall
and
sanctuary
for
activities
also
to
note
they
use
the
northeast
corner
of
the
building
for
pickup
and
drop-offs,
and
it
also
provides
direct
access
to
the
play
area.
That's
there
just
a
couple
notes
on
miscellaneous
things:
park
parking
is
compliant,
however,
it's
right
on
the
cusp
of
the
requirements,
so
it
should
be
noted
that
any
additional
children
that
they
want
to
add
in
the
future
should
be
reviewed
for
parking
compliance
similar
to
other
uses
and
places
of
assembly.
G
G
We
did
do
a
landscaping
count
and
they
are
missing
eight
trees
and
they
must
provide
a
plan
showing
where
they're
going
to
plant
plant
those
eight
trees,
as
well
as
a
species
of
those
prior
to
increasing
up
to
90
students,
because
there
are
no
building
permit
required
for
for
this.
Lastly,
lighting
upgrades
it's
not
required
at
this
time.
G
A
H
Thanks,
mr
chair,
ms
o'day,
is
there
anything
in
our
code
that
stops
the
number
at
some
point
we're
going
from
75
to
90?
Is
there
something
on
on
the
way
where,
if
they
want
to
go
to
100
or
more
whatever,
the
number
is
what
what
stops
this?
Eventually
from
a
code
standpoint.
G
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
cook
dunn,
I
would
just
say
that
they
have
199
parking
spaces
on
site
and
their
requirement
is
198,
considering
full
use
of
the
sanctuary
in
daycare.
So
if
they
even
go
a
little
bit
above
90,
they
need
to
come
back
in
and
either.
A
D
Thank
you
for
for
taking
consideration
of
this.
The
reason
why
we're
asking
to
go
to
90
is
because
we
are
now
providing
the
long.
The
distance
learning
for
the
school
agers,
who
are
here
all
day,
our
numbers
because
of
covet
in
our
preschool
rooms,
are
down
so
we
are
beyond
are
underneath
the
75
that
we
have
currently
and
we
have
had
for
decades.
D
The
only
reason
we're
asking
go
to
90
is
so
that
if
we
do,
if
we
are
able
to
raise
up
our
preschool
numbers,
it
won't
affect
our
school
age
numbers
that
we
have
normally
when
school's
in
session
they're
here
in
the
morning
and
in
the
afternoon,
some
are
here
morning
only
afternoon,
only
it's
a
totally
different
world
now
with
the
cobot
thing.
So
that's
why
we're
asking
to
go
to
90.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commission
members.
Are
there
any
questions
for
barb
wigston.
A
All
right
see
none
thank
you
for
your
comments.
Barb.
A
All
right,
mr
mark
regard,
is
there
anybody
online
that
wishes
to
speak
to
this
from
the
public.
B
Mr
chairman
commissioners,
nobody
pre-registered-
and
I
conferred
with
mr
p's
that
nobody
has
called
in
on
this
item.
Okay,.
A
A
All
right
and
commissioner
crook
don
second
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
in
front
of
us,
close
public
hearing,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
by
roll
call.
Commissioner
goldsman
aye,
commissioner
corman.
C
E
A
H
Thanks
mr
chair
looks
like
a
good
application
to
me
and
I'm
also
happy
to
hear
that
we
do
have
something
in
the
code
that
sort
of
prevents
it
further
increasing
inch
by
inch.
I
always
get
a
little
hesitant
when
we
say.
Oh,
it's
just
a
little
bit
more
and
I'm
glad
we
have
something
concrete.
That's
saying
you
know
what
is
the
final
limit
and
we're
well
within
that
limit
now,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
support
this
application.
A
A
A
E
A
G
Yup
so
item
three
on
your
agenda
tonight
is
for
another
conditional
use,
permit
this
one's
for
a
health
club
and
an
existing
multi-tenant
building.
G
The
address
is
6301
cecilia
circle.
Some
of
you
may
recognize
the
site.
Westwood
church
occupies
the
southern
portion
of
the
building
and
they
received
their
approvals.
A
few
years
ago,
the
surrounding
uses
include
a
large
office
warehouse
building
to
the
u.s
I
had
494
to
the
south
and
the
city
of
edina
to
the
north.
G
Beyond
pt,
they
would
provide
one-on-one
personal
training.
Coaching
pilates
wellness
by
appointment.
Only
their
hours
of
operation
are
5
a.m,
to
9
00
p.m.
Seven
days
a
week,
their
floor
plan
is
fairly
basic.
It's
an
open
floor
area,
design
with
equipment
kind
of
along
the
edges
of
the
room,
and
then
there
are
two
restrooms
in
the
back
of
the
space
and
then
westwood
church
is
directly
sort
of
to
the
east
or
not
east.
To
the
right
of
the
screen.
G
Parking
is
compliant
while
17
spaces
are
required
for
this
use.
We
don't
anticipate
the
user
using
all
17
spaces
at
one
time,
based
on
their
business
model
of
appointment,
only
and
one-on-one
training,
because
there's
a
limited
amount
of
parking
spaces
allocated
for
all
of
the
northern
tenant
spaces
and
some
of
the
tenant
spaces
are
vacant.
G
We
would
require
this
additional
parking
review
for
those
uses
if
they
are
higher
parking
requirement
uses
and
then
the
landscaping
and
lighting
they
are
compliant
with
westwood
church.
They
came
in
a
couple
years
ago
and
provided
compliant
landscaping,
lighting
for
the
entire
site
and
then
just
to
touch
on
a
piece
of
correspondence
that
I
received
earlier
this
afternoon.
G
This
allows
other
departments
to
review
their
requirements
and
codes,
and
it
provides
flexibility
and
not
having
the
applicant
go
through
this
process
again,
while
reviewing
the
condition.
I
noted
that
that
condition
number
one
was
not
needed,
so
there
is
no
construction
proposed
with
this
project,
so
I
have
provided
a
supplemental
memo
to
the
planning
commission
earlier
this
afternoon.
So
hopefully
that
was
received
and
the
revised
resolution
is
in
your
packet
for
your
viewing.
G
A
I
have
one
just
to
clarify
with
the
revised
information
that
was
sent
out
earlier
tonight.
There
is
no
need
to
make
a
recommendation
with
those
revisions
that
you
mentioned
in
the
staff
report.
Is
that
correct.
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Any
other
commissioners
have
questions
for
for
lizzie.
A
See
none
mr
marker
guard,
knowing
that
we
don't
have
the
applicant
online,
do
we
have
anybody
from
the
public
that
wishes
to
speak
to
this.
A
Nobody
from
the
public,
all
right,
planning,
commission
members
saying
that
nobody
from
the
public
wishes
to
speak
to
this
item,
how
to
entertain
a
motion
to
close
public
hearing.
A
Commissioner
cookton
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
front
of
us.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
roman?
Second,
all
right,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
close
public
hearing,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
by
roll
call.
Commissioner
goldsman
aye,
commissioner
corman
aye,
commissioner
roman
aye,
commissioner
abdi.
A
F
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner
roman,
and
I
agree
with
you.
I'm
glad
to
see
again
some
of
the
open
space
in
in
these
types
of
facilities
be
put
to
use,
so
I'm
also
supportive
of
it.
F
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner
roman.
We
have
a
motion
in
front
of
us
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
for
a
health
club
in
a
multi-tenant
building.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
corpsman.
D
A
C
A
Commissioner,
roman
aye,
commissioner
abdi
aye
commissioner
cook
den
hi,
an
eye
for
myself
motion
passes.
That
is
a
final
decision
on
this
item
unless
an
appeal
is
received
by
4
30
on
november
10th.
Thank
you
keeping
you
guys
on
your
toes,
I'm
not
allowing
any
time
between
eyes
or
nays
here.
So
we
are
on
to
the
fourth
item,
mr
mike
centenario,
you
have
the
staff
report
for
us.
Please.
J
J
Great
thank
you,
mr
chair
item.
4
on
tonight's
agenda
is
related
to
a
cherrywood
point
development.
It's
a
residential
care
facility,
assisted
living
and
independent
living
senior
facility
at
5501
american
boulevard
west,
something
that
some
some
of
the
commission
members
may
be
familiar
with.
That
went
through
a
couple
rounds
of
approvals
over
the
past
couple
years,
but
it
is
under
well
under
construction
at
this
point
and
I'll
touch
on
a
couple
phases
within
this
development
because
it
is
a,
it
is
a
two
phase
development
overall.
So
quite
substantial
on
this
screen
is
aerial.
Image.
J
Cherrywood
point
is
in
the
red,
the
red
shading
that
would
be
phase
one
and
then
the
mute
to
the
west,
another
another
senior
facility,
but
independent
living
five-story
building
dubbed
the
point
is
also
under
construction.
J
So
both
there's
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
site
in
that
that
activity
led
to
the
application
that
that
we're
reviewing
here
just
a
plan
view
of
the
two
phases
so
we're
talking
about
tonight,
we're
talking
about
a
final
development
plan
for
cherrywood
point
in
order
to
establish
an
accessory
restaurant
and
a
conditional
use
permit
for
that.
Restaurant
and
the
reason
that
the
final
development
plan
entitlement
is
required
is
due
to
parking.
J
So
if
you,
when
you're
looking
at
phase
one
and
phase
two,
there
is
some,
each
facility
has
more
more
or
less
dedicated
parking
for
each
surface
parking
for
each
phase,
namely
near
the
primary
entrance
for
phase
two.
If
you
can
see
that
kind
of
turnaround
area
and
then
for
phase
one,
you
have
a
parking
lot
to
the
east
of
the
building
and
then
there's
also
some
shared
parking,
especially
along
the
south
of
the
building.
Each
phase
has
its
own
structured
parking
underground.
J
The
fir
are
under
the
first
level,
so
it
is
cold
complying
in
terms
of
its
parking
supply,
which
you
know
a
lot
of
developments.
We
see
applications
to
reduce
that
to
some
degree,
but
this
development
is
cold
complying
in
terms
of
its
parking
demand
based
on
residential
units,
but
the
final
development
plan
is
required
because
the
accessory
restaurant,
by
definition,
the
applicant,
is
not
proposing
to
increase
the
parking
supply.
J
Essentially,
they
intend
to
use
the
parking,
that's
already
been
planned
and
approved
and
is
under
construction
on
the
site,
which
we
feel
very
comfortable
with
and
and
we'll
detail
that
I'll
detail
that
a
little
bit
further
to
familiar
just
to
refresh
some
folks
memory
or
to
provide
a
graphic
image
for
those
who
are
not
familiar
with
the
development
again.
Here's
the
two
phases.
So
this
is
the
the
last
image
was
just
a
bird's
eye
view,
and
this
image
is
from
american
boulevard.
J
J
That
would
would
be
used
for
this
accessory
restaurant
and
when
I
say
accessory,
it
really
just
means
subordinate,
subordinate
too
or
it's
not
the
primary
use
of
the
facility.
It's
not
the
primary
use
of
the
site,
but
if
you
or
I
wanted
to
have
a
drink,
they
would
be
able
to
serve
us.
So
it
is
a
restaurant
kind
of
zooms
into
that
plan.
J
View
again
a
little
bit,
and
this
red
outline
is
something
that
architect
provided
that
really
identifies
the
restaurant
area,
and
that
includes
some
some
floor
area
on
the
first
level
of
the
cherrywood
point
development.
But
then
it
also
includes
an
outdoor
patio
and
so
I'll
identify
those
different
spaces
momentarily.
J
You
know
just
to
touch
on
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
think
the
the
parking
supply
is
going
to
be
more
than
adequate.
Is
you
know
when
we,
when
we
say
accessory
restaurant,
it
would
be
very
different
from
a
standalone
chain?
Restaurant,
for
example,
where
you
have
a
separate
building
its
own
parking
facilities
and
its
own
branding?
J
There
wouldn't
be
any
exterior
signage
for
this
this
for
this
restaurant.
So
unless
you
were
lived
in
the
area
or
were
a
guest
of
a
resident,
you
probably
wouldn't
know
there
was
even
a
restaurant
there.
It
would
utilize
the
same
kitchen
and
the
same
kitchen
staff.
So
there
wouldn't
be
separate
groups
of
staff
for
the
for
the
different
uses,
but
then
the
you
know
it
would
be
physically
connected
to
the
point.
J
So
I've
identified
this
area
here,
which
is
a
physical
connection
between
phase
one
and
phase
two
between
the
assisted
living
and
the
independent
senior
living.
So
we
would
suspect-
and
I
think
the
applicant
would
like
some
of
the
folks
that
live
in
the
point
of
space
2
development-
they
may
want
to
patronize
this
restaurant,
but
that
wouldn't
generate
any
additional
parking
demand,
because
they'd
simply
just
be
able
to
walk,
walk
and
through
that
hallway
into
into
the
restaurant
area.
J
You
know
the
floor
plan
in
a
little
more
detail,
so
the
again
that
red
outline,
that's
where
the
the
essentially,
what
that
identifies
is
the
liquor
license
where
the
applicant
would
be
able
to
serve
beer
and
wine,
and
so
that
that's
really
the
confines
of
the
restaurant
is
dictated
by
where
they
could
provide
where
they
have
service,
and
these
are
really
the
same
spaces
that
would
be
here
anyway.
Your
lobby
area
an
outdoor
patio,
your
dining
room,
your
kitchen,
as
well
as
some
of
the
recreational
spaces.
J
J
The
green
here,
the
green
versus
the
blue,
the
green
area,
is
exterior
spaces,
so
an
outdoor
patio
is
being
constructed
with
outdoor
seating
as
you'd
expect
it's
a
landscape
space
with
some
walkways
some.
What
I
believe
are
some
garden
beds
and
there's
also
some
cd
as
you
would.
You
would
expect,
and
so
that
was
included
in
the
seat
total,
because
that
would
be
included
in
the
liquor
license
and
you
would
be
able
to
be
served
a
beer.
But
then
you
also
have
bills
have
food
service
in
those
spaces
as
well.
J
J
Again,
just
going
back
to
the
overall
site,
the
the
relationship
between
phase
one
and
phase
two,
it's
code
complying
from
a
parking
perspective.
When
we
we
don't
consider
the
the
restaurant,
but
given
the
characteristics
of
the
restaurant,
we
feel
it
is
totally
appropriate
for
phase
one
and
really
would
be
a
essentially
an
added
amenity
for
the
residents.
So
they
wouldn't
be.
They
would
have
their
more
traditional
food
plan
for
the
residents.
J
With
that,
we
are
recommending
approval
of
both
the
final
development
plan,
which
really
just
allows
the
accessory
restaurant
to
exist
without
having
to
construct
extra
parking
and
then
further.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
restaurant
itself
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions.
But
then
the
applicant
and
their
team
is
also
available.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
centenario.
Commission
members.
Are
there
any
questions
for
staff?
Commissioner,
corman
is
your
hand
up
now
or
no
okay.
Looks
commissioner
cookton.
H
J
Mr
cookton,
I'm
not
familiar
with
a
similar
type
of
use
early
on.
We
struggled
with
you
know,
essentially
what
sort
of
box
to
put
this
in?
It's,
not
a
traditional
restaurant,
like
your
you
know,
applebee's
or
chili's,
or
any
sort
of
more
chain
type,
restaurant
or
independent
restaurant.
It's
also
not
quite
like
exactly
like
a
private
food
service,
which
is
the
classic
example
of
a
private
food
service
is
a
cafeteria
as
part
of
a
large
office
development,
for
example.
So
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
fit
into
either
box.
J
I'm
not
aware
of
something
that's
like
quite
like
this,
but
the
applicant
has
implemented
this
at
other
facilities
and,
I
believe,
actually
at
other
cherrywood
points
kind
of
under
this
sort
of
framework,
and
so
they
might
be
able
to
share
a
little
bit
more
on
how
that's
operated
at
their
other
facilities.
A
All
right
see
none.
Mr
marcoguard,
I
understand
dave
young
and
I
I
believe
it's
michael
paw
are
online
for
the
applicant.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
commission.
My
name
is
dave
young
with
united
properties.
K
Our
goal
through
this
application
is
to
request
the
ability
to
provide
a
safe,
comfortable
and
inclusive
food,
dining
experience
for
our
seniors
and
their
guests.
L
K
By
by
the
residents
by
their
families,
especially
during
the
troubled
times
that
we've
experienced
here
the
past
several
months
being
that
they
are
rather
isolated
to
their
to
their
safe
community,
having
the
ability
to
have
that
traditional
all-inclusive
dining
experience
within
the
within
their
community
has
been
very
favorable.
So.
J
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
your
comments.
Commission
members.
Is
there
any
questions
for
the
applicant
commissioner
cookton.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
two
questions.
First
question.
Mr
young.
A
lot
of
multi-family
developments
have
some
form
of
security.
When
you
walk
in
whether
it's
a
fob
or
a
key
or
whatever,
being
that
this
restaurant
is
interior
to
the
building,
would
someone
off
the
street
have
access
to
it
or
is
it
behind
security.
K
Mr
chair,
the
entire
building,
all
exterior
doors,
are
secured
doors.
There
is
a
24
hour
staff,
that's
located
in
the
building
and
would
have
to
engage
the
any
any
patron
that
would
come
to
the
facility.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair
of
follow-up
question,
mr
young.
My
other
question
is
your
development
in
roseville,
which
you
said
was
very
similar
to
this
just
curious
about
the
the
neighboring
properties
to
that
development.
Here,
we're
next
to
a
pretty
dense
office
park
and
also
a
very
dense
housing
unit.
Is
that
what
type
of
neighbors
do
you
have
in
your
roseville
location.
K
Members
of
the
commission,
our
cherrywood
point
of
roseville
at
lexington
community
that
currently
has
the
ability
to
provide
beer
and
wine
is
located
along
legend
avenue.
It
is
directly
across
the
street
from
the
city
city
offices.
It
is
located
to
the
north
and
east.
It
is
all
residential
kind
of
existing
residential
and
there
is
a
multi-family
senior
apartment
building
just
to
the
south.
K
We
we
really
do
not
see
too
much
interaction
from
anybody
from
outside
of
the
indirectly
outside
of
the
community.
You
know
short
of
some
family
members
and
direct
guests
that
take
advantage
of
of
the
dining
experience
in
that
community.
A
Mr
young,
this
is
commission,
commissioner
solberg,
I
just
maybe
a
follow-up
and
then
clarity,
question
and
then
secondary
question.
So
is
it
my
understanding
with
the
x,
the
external
door,
security
that
really
the
facility
the
restaurant
would
be
used
by
the
residents
and
or
guests
of
the
residents?
Is
that
essentially,
where
that
comes
in.
K
Commissioner
solberg
members
of
the
commission-
yes,
that
is
that
is
the
case-
that
that
is
what
we
are
expecting
out
of
this
and
and
not
expecting
really
any
demand
from
the
outside
general
public.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
The
second
question
was
was
really
just
a,
and
maybe
it's
not
quite
as
pertinent
at
this
point,
but
at
your
roseville
facilities.
What's
that,
do
you
have
a
percentage
of
the
of
the
usage?
That's
external
to
the
facility.
A
Meaning
guests,
rather
than
residents.
K
Commissioner
solberg
members
of
the
commission,
I
do
not
have
those
data
points
in
front
of
me,
but
I
I
could
tell
you
that
there
really
is
not
there's
not
a
large
demand,
I'm
not
quite
aware
of
much
of
a
demand
at
all.
To
be
honest,
I
cannot
say
that
there
has
not
been
any.
K
Obviously
there
are
friends
and
family
that
attend
which
are
considered
public,
but
just
a
general
patron
public
without
some
connection
to
the
community
is,
is
rather
rare
for
for
everything.
I'm
aware
of.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
answering
that
any
additional
questions
by
commission
members
for
dave
young.
A
B
Mr
chairman,
commissioner,
nobody
has
pre-registered
and
we
haven't,
nobody
has
called
in
either.
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
right
see
nobody
that
from
the
public
that
is
interested
in
speaking
to
this
item
or
to
entertain
a
motion
from
the
planning
commission
to
close
the
public
hearing.
A
A
A
Cookton
hi
and
I
for
myself
motion
passes.
The
public
hearing
is
now
closed.
Discussion
from
planning,
commission
members.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
can
support
this
application.
I
think
it's
a
provides
another
type
of
amenity
for
senior
housing.
F
I
happen
to
have
been
to
one
of
these
types
of
places
in
another
state,
but
actually
quite
accidentally,
because
it
was
a
restaurant
open
to
the
public
and
there
was
nobody
there
who
didn't
other
than
myself
and
the
person
I
was
visiting
with
who
wasn't
part
of
the
housing
development.
So
it
was
pretty
clear
that
that
time
we
stumbled
into
one
of
those
places
we
weren't
the
market,
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
a
cowboy
jacks
type
of
a
wild
and
crazy
place.
Cowboy
jacks
is
fine.
F
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
different
kind
of
an
atmosphere
than
they're
going
for
here
at
at
the
point,
so
I'm
supportive,
I
think
it's
it's
wholly
consistent
and
I
don't
have
any
major
concerns.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
did
have
some
early
reservations
to
this
application
just,
but
I
do
feel
more
comfortable
being
that
it's
behind
security
and
that
that
adds
us
a
bit
of
a
practical
barrier
for
someone
to
get
into.
H
I
I
had
some
reservations
due
to
the
normandale
lake
office
park
to
the
south
as
a
former
20-something
who
used
to
work
in
office
space
very
similar
to
that,
if
there
was
a
sandwich
being
served
within
two
miles,
my
office
building,
I
knew
about
it,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
there's
some
practical
difficulties
that
makes
me
feel
more
comfortable.
The
other
thing
I'll
just
bring
to
the
other
commissioners
for
consideration
is
you
know
we
are
right
at
the
number
for
parking.
H
I
think
we're
only
one
to
the
good
in
terms
of
parking
with
the
initial
application,
and
one
thing
that
does
stick
out
to
me
is
that
there
is
no
street
parking
in
this
neighborhood
whatsoever.
It's
it's
totally
non-existent,
and
so,
if
there
were
to
be
a
situation
where
we
were
over
parked
here
talking
about
having
to
cross
american
boulevard
by
foot
which
is
not
great
or
park
in
one
of
the
ramps
in
the
office
park,
which
is
also
not
ideal,
so
that's
just
another
thing
of
consideration.
H
That
said,
from
my
perspective,
I
think
I
can.
I
could
feel
comfortable
enough
with
those
two
things
and
and
support
this
application.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
would
second
and
third
are
the
comments,
and
this
is
the
application.
I
think
it's
a
good
use
as
well
as
it
helps
provide
some
value
and
amenities
to
those
private
residents.
One
comment
that
I
have
on
the
parking
situation
is
really
looking
at.
This
is
providing
value
to
the
residents
that
are
living
there
and
the
demographics
of
those
residents,
the
more
amenities
that
you
put
in
their
you
know
in
their
development,
the
less
inclined
they
are
going
to
be
wanting
to
drive
or
even
own
a
vehicle.
D
So
a
lot
of
the
applications
that
we've
seen
to
date
have
actually
asked
for
concessions
and
parking.
This
actually
complies,
and
so
I
I
feel
really
comfortable
with
it
as
it
stands
today.
Now
the
conditions
could
change.
I
think
we'd
have
to
look
at
it
again,
but
looking
at
the
demographics
looking
at
the
amenities,
I
don't
think
parking
really
is
a
concern
of
mine.
At
this
point.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner
goldsmith.
Are
there
any
other
commission
members
that
would
like
to
talk
to
this
item?
I
myself
find
myself
in
support
of
this
application
as
well.
Initially
I
was.
I
had
missed
the
point
of
the
security
on
the
facility,
so
just
trying
to
understand
that
that
very
nuanced
difference
that
mr
centenario
talked
about
with
restaurant
versus
a
food
service
and
how
that
is
controlled
understanding
now
more
fully.
A
The
application
that
it
really
provides
an
amenity
to
the
residents
is
is
really
first
and
foremost
and
then
to
the
point
of
parking.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we've
found
much
more
over
the
past
couple
years
is,
as
commissioner
goldsman
mentioned,
is
really
asking
for
this
request
to
provide
less
parking
because
oftentimes
those
parking
lots,
sit
empty
or,
at
the
very
least,
have
extra
capacity
with
them.
A
So
I
am
not
concerned
with
the
parking
on
this
particular
facility
either,
especially
when,
when
doubled
with
the
amenity
for
the
units
themselves,
is
there
anybody
else
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
item.
H
A
Thank
you.
We
have
a
motion
in
front
of
us.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
roman
all
right?
Thank
you.
We
have
a
motion,
and
a
second
in
front
of
us
to
to
approve
this
major
revision
to
the
final
development
plans
for
cherrywood
point
development.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
by
roll
call.
Commissioner
goldsman
hi,
commissioner
corman
aye,
commissioner
roman
aye,
commissioner
abdi.
A
Cook
done
and
I
for
myself
motion
passes
and
again
this
this
particular
item
will
move
to
the
city
council
on
november
23rd.
There
is
a
second
recommendation
in
front
of
us
to
commissioner
cookdown.
H
Mr
chair,
in
case
pl
2020-184,
having
been
able
to
make
the
required
findings,
I
moved
to
recommend
city
council
adopt
a
resolution
approving
a
conditional
use
permit
or
an
accessory
restaurant.
Within
the
cherry
point,
development
located
at
5501
american
boulevard
west,
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report.
D
A
A
L
L
Yeah,
I'm
going
back
to
the
beginning
here.
Sorry
about
that!
Just
fine!
Thank
you!
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
and
commissioners.
Let
me
just
this
is
my
first
time
doing
this
here,
so
I'm
trying
to.
L
Get
my
bearings
so
thank
you
for
your
patience,
so
I'm
here
tonight
to
present
to
you
proposed
city
code,
amendments
related
to
the
temporary
pandemic
response,
housing.
L
There
we
go
so
the
purpose
of
these
amendments
really
are
coming
out
of
a
unique
convergence
of
events
that
have
been
either
exacerbated
or
created
as
a
result
of
the
coven
19
pandemic.
L
Certainly,
the
pandemic
has
exacerbated
that
situation
and
in,
in
some
part,
due
to
the
capacity
of
traditional
homeless,
shelters
being
decreased
significantly
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic
distancing
requirements.
L
At
the
same
time,
demand
for
hotel
rooms
has
dropped
substantially
along
with
reduction
in
travel,
and
finally,
there
have
been
funding
available
primarily
through
the
cares
act
to
alleviate
some
of
the
impacts
of
the
of
the
pandemic
and
that's
been
driving.
Some
of
the
interest.
L
So
the
city
really
has
three
key
objectives
here:
one
is
to
preserve
community
safety,
another
is
to
maintain
the
city's
discretion.
And
finally,
of
course,
we
want
to
try
to
address
the
housing
needs
in
in
this
time,
as
well
as
moving
forward.
L
So
looking
to
our
comprehensive
plan
forward,
2040
for
some
policy
guidance
and
in
our
housing
element,
there
is
a
some
very
specific
guidance
that
aligns
directly
with
this
proposed
ordinance
change.
L
So
there
is
a
strategy,
as
you
can
see
here,
about
supporting
efforts
to
address
homelessness
and
one
of
the
things
it
talks
about
is
supporting
development
of
permanent
supportive
housing,
while
this
is
a
temporary,
supportive
housing
that
is
moving
in
that
direction
and
certainly
reviewing
our
code
and
trying
to
minimize
barriers
to
the
provision
of
supportive
housing.
This
is
totally
in
alignment
with
that
policy.
L
So
tonight
I'm
going
to
kind
of
go
over
the
highlights
and
then
stand
for
questions
so
just
kind
of
a
table
of
contents
here
of
what
I'm
going
to
go
through
in
more
detail.
L
But
I
want
to
talk
about
the
creation
of
the
new
use,
the
temporary
pandemic
response,
housing
and
the
various
standards
that
we
have
that
we're
proposing
that
go
along
with
that
use.
We're
also
looking
at
doing
some
other
related
kind
of
cleanup
and
clarification
to
existing
language
in
the
ordinance.
So
there's
some
definitions.
L
We
also
want
to
add
a
penalty
clause
to
the
zoning
and
development
chapters
of
our
code,
so
jumping
into
the
ordinance
and
and
the
language
around
the
new.
The
proposed
new
use,
temporary
pandemic
response
housing.
So
we're
adding
this
as
a
new
interim
use,
and
so
we
always
like
to
define
our
uses
that
are
listed
in
the
code.
So
we've
got
a
definition
that
we
proposed
and
I'll
just
quickly
read
it
temporary
pandemic
response.
L
L
Also,
whenever
we
create
a
new
use,
we
have
to
add
it
to
our
use
tables
in
the
in
chapter
21.
So
we
have
all
those
use
tables
that
say
where
what
zoning
districts
different
uses
are
allowed
in
and
are
they
permitted
conditional
or
interim?
So
we
would
be
adding
a
language
to
show
that
temporary
pandemic
response.
Housing
is
an
intramuse
in
the
rm50,
which
is
a
higher
density,
multiple
family,
residential
district,
we're
also
making
a
slight
tweak
to
the
congregate.
L
The
existing
regulations
regarding
the
congregate
living
facilities
in
the
fd
ii
district,
we're
creating
a
new
parking
rate
for
this
new
use.
It
is
a
fairly
low
parking
rate,
so
it's
a
0.5
space
per
unit,
plus
one
space
per
staff
member.
L
It
is
our
expectation
that
you
know
the
tenants
most
of
the
tenants
who
would
be
utilizing.
This
sort
of
facility
would
not
have
personal
vehicles,
so
the
primary
parking
need
is
going
to
be
for
the
staff,
the
service
provider
staff
that
will
be
there
on
on
site.
L
So
getting
into
some
of
the
requirements
and
standards
so
the
as
an
interim
use.
These
are
our
temporary
uses
and
we
are
suggesting
a
duration
limitation
of
two
years.
We
are
also
suggesting
that
this
use
only
be
allowed
in
the
rm-50
zoning
district.
One
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
for
one
to
kind
of
limit
the
where
it
it
could
go,
but
also
this
is
intended.
L
The
implication
of
this
ordinance
is
that,
once
the
temporary
use
is
over,
that
there
would
be
it
would
transition
into
a
permanent
type
of
residential
higher
density
residential
use.
So
this
would
be
setting
the
stage
for
that
to
happen.
L
The
map
here
shows
you
where
the
existing
rm50
parcels
are.
None
of
these
are
vacant.
These
are
developed
sites
or
developing
sites.
L
There's
one
parcel
that's
under
construction
right
now,
but
all
of
them
are
developed
or
used
for
permanent
housing,
and
so
the
idea
isn't
that
any
of
these
parcels
would
be
would
be
requesting
an
iup
for
this
again,
it's
a
it's
a
short
duration:
it's
not
a
permanent
use,
and
so
it
just
wouldn't
make
financial
sense
or
anybody
who's
already
got
a
permanent
housing
use
to
try
to
do
something
on
a
temporary
basis.
L
So
that
said,
for
this
to
actually
be
applied,
we
would
anticipate
that
it
would
involve
a
property-
that's
not
currently
zoned
rm
50
and
they
would
have
to
go
through
a
rezoning
and
potentially
re-guiding,
depending
on
the
location
of
the
property.
And
again
this
gets
to
some
of
that
discretion
that
the
city
would
have
by
going
through
a
zoning
review.
L
So
we
have
requirements
proposed
for
in
the
language,
some
of
it
dealing
with
licensing
requirements,
so
we're
proposing
that
these
this
use
would
be
licensed
as
rental
housing,
which
subjects
it
to
the
regulations
that
we
have
in
in
chapter
14
and
any
other
kind
of
regulations
related
to
rental
housing.
L
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
strong
security
plan,
so
the
provider
would
have
to
submit
a
security
plan
for
approval
by
our
chief
of
police
and
we
identify
in
the
ordinance
language
several
of
the
provisions
that
would
need
to
be
included
in
that
plan.
So
you
can
see
them
there,
but
there's
these
security
personnel
and
how
many
what
their
training
is.
How
when
would
they
be
on
site?
L
Would
their
hours
be
protocols
for
keeping
lines
of
communication
open
between
the
facility
and
the
police
department,
security
security
cameras
and
then
also
anything
else
that
the
chief
of
police
might
might
request,
because
each
situation
could
be
unique?
L
Again,
looking
at
the
staffing
that's
going
to
be
on-site
and
what
are
those
schedules
and
protocols
regarding
record-keeping,
communication,
emergency
response,
property
maintenance,
a
code
of
conduct
for
the
tenants
on
site
regarding
so
that
would
be
a
policy
on
drug
and
alcohol
use
and
also
maintaining
occupancy
data
and
a
plan
for
reducing
the
spread
of
disease.
L
There's
a
requirement
to
meet
building
and
site
requirements
in
our
code.
The
one
of
the
the
big
ones
here
is
that
this
use
could
not
be
mixed
with
other
uses
on
site,
so
there's
a
building
on
site.
It
would
have
to
be
totally
used
by
as
the
temporary
pandemic
response
housing
it
couldn't
be
partially
used
for
some
other
use.
L
We
call
out
specifically
some
of
the
city
requirements
parking,
although
the
rate
is
is
set
in
the
standards
here,
but
other
parking
requirements
in
our
code.
That
could
be
the
size
of
the
stalls,
the
dry,
vials,
etc.
L
Lighting
standards,
particularly
security
lighting,
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
haven't
called
out.
I
mean
this
is
gonna
again
because
it's
an
interim
use,
it's
it's,
not
that
somebody
is
going
to
come
with
an
and
redevelop
a
parcel
for
a
two-year
use,
so
this
is
generally
going
to
be
use
of
an
existing
building.
So
things
like
landscaping
and
some
of
the
other
setbacks.
What
not
the
the
structure
is
going
to
be
in
place
and
some
of
those
things
are
going
to
be
in
place.
L
We
also
have
a
clause
in
there
about
inspections,
just
to
make
sure
make
it
very
clear
that
the
city
has
the
right
to
perform
periodic
exp
inspections
and
then
there's
kind
of
the
catch-all
clause
that
allows
the
city
to
impose
any
additional
conditions
via
the
intramute's
permit
and
that's
pretty
standard.
L
And
then
there
are
some
proposed
amendments
to
existing
language
in
the
code.
Several
definitions,
we're
proposing
some
minor
changes
to-
and
I
don't
have
them
up
here
on
the
screen,
but
they
are
in
the
ordinance
they're
also
were
called
out
in
the
staff
report.
So
we
can
get
into
specific
questions
if
you,
if
you
have
those
when
we
get
to
the
question
portion
here,
I
did
just
want
to
point
out
that
we
are
proposing
to
delete
one
of
the
definitions.
L
Full
service
hotel
because
of
some
of
the
changes
we're
making
to
the
definition
of
hotel
or
motel
really
encompasses
so
it's
redundant
for
having
full
service
hotels.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
a
cleanup,
we're
also
adding
a
penalty
clause,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
standard
penalty
clause.
It
exists
in
other
chapters
of
the
code,
for
whatever
reason
it
was
never
incorporated
into
chapter
19
or
21..
So
this
is
somewhat
of
a
cleanup
item.
L
It's
always
makes
enforcement
more
clean
if,
if
the
enforce,
if
the
penalty
clause
is
actually
embedded
into
the
section
or
the
chapter
of
the
code,
that
there
might
be
a
violation
too,
so
it's
again
it's
kind
of
a
cleanup
and
a
transparency
amendment
so
to
wrap
things
up.
L
L
We
don't
have
a
way
to
really
deal
with
this
sort
of
a
use
now
so
so
that
was
our
intent
is
to
provide
a
means,
a
tool
if
you
will
to
address
a
temporary
housing
situation,
a
need
in
terms
of
maintaining
descript
discretion,
there's
several
things:
the
clarification
to
the
definitions,
help
with
that,
the
limitation
on
the
duration
of
two
years
limiting
to
the
rn
50
district.
As
I
said
previously,
this
the
youth
standards
that
are
in
there
give
us
discretion.
L
We
have
to
approve
many
of
those
plans,
the
security
plan,
the
management
and
operations
plan
and
then
just
including
the
licensing
requirements
with
regard
to
preserving
safety.
Adding
that
penalty
clause
makes
that
cleaner
and
and
more
transparent
the
requirement
for
the
security
plan
and
again
the
maintenance.
The
management
operations
plan
also
can
address
kind
of
on-site
security
and
staffing
and
such
and
then
the
inspection
provisions.
L
Just
to
kind
of
summarize
also
just
our
our
outreach.
So
as
her
norm,
we
published
a
public
hearing
notice
in
the
sun
current
we
sent
out
notice
via
email
to
our
esubscribe
groups.
L
We
posted
this
on
our
city
website,
so
the
public
could
go
in
and
take
a
look
at
the
proposed
amendments,
as
well
as
the
other
information,
including
the
staff
report,
and
then
just
earlier
this
week,
mayor
bussey
did
a
council
minute,
which
is
the
weekly
video
update
that
he
he
does,
and
there
was
a
piece
specific
to
these
amendments
on
that.
L
L
So
with
that,
I'm
proposing
this,
this
motion
that-
and
I
guess
I
I
will
I'll
come
back
to
this
when
we
get
to
the
the
time
of
the
the
motion.
But
I'm
recommending
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
code
amendment
and
I
will
stand
now
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have
and
before
we
get
started
too.
I
wanted
to
say
we
got.
Apparently
we
got
just
got
an
email
that
had
some
questions.
L
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
so
maybe
when
we
get
to
the
public
comment
period,
I
don't
know
if
mr
marker
guard
has
access
to
those
questions,
but
if
not,
I
can
try
to
find
them.
So
with
that
I'll
stand
for
for
your
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
julie.
Certainly,
we
can
get
to
those
questions.
Hopefully
that'll
be
during
the
public
comment
period.
We'll
address
that.
But
first,
let's
start
with
commission
members,
any
questions
for
julie
farnam,
commissioner
goldsman.
D
Thanks
mr
chair,
this
farm,
one
question
I
have
is
really
around
how
our
code
or
this
item
addresses
the
need
for
other
amenities
or
resources
on
these
types
of
housing.
D
Just
looking
at
you
know,
the
type
of
people
that
are
coming
in
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
need
here
for
additional
resources
like
social
workers
or
food
education
resources
et
cetera.
Is
there
anything
in
the
code,
or
you
know
in
this
that
addresses
that
need
either
on-site
or
potentially
a
transportation
to
the
resources
off
site
and
I'll?
Take
that
question
I'll.
L
Find,
oh
sure,
thank
you,
mr
chair
of
commissioner
goldsman,
so
in
general,
this
use
would
be
conducted
by
a
service
provider
like
a
county
or
a
non-profit
organization
who
would
be
providing
social
services
on
site
as
well
as
food
on
site.
So
but
in
terms
of
transportation,
there
isn't
well.
I
guess
it
would
really
depend
on
the
service
providers.
Some
of
them
might
provide
some
kind
of
transportation,
but
but
there
is
nothing
in
the
language
that
requires
them
to
provide
transportation
services,
for
instance,.
D
Yes,
to
follow
up
the
reason
I
ask
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
limiting
this
type
of
development
to
just
housing,
but
they
could
also
provide
those
other
resources
within
that
same
facility.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
putting
ourselves
or
painting
ourselves
into
a
corner
here
to
make
sure
that
you
know
if
the
state
agency
or
other
type
of
nonprofit
just
making
sure
that
we
allow
for
that
as
well.
If
there's
appropriate
space
for
that.
L
Mr
chair
commissioner
goldsmith
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
your
question,
because,
by
definition
this
is
this
use
this.
This
specific
interim
use
is
a
residential
use,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
and
maybe
I'm
not
fully
understanding
your
question.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
think
the
question
is
really
is
if
this
is
housing
available
and
I
think
that's
within
the
scope
I
just
want
to
make
or
ask
the
question
of
if
there
are
other
needs
other
than
housing
to
these
residents.
D
Is
that
an
opportunity
to
have
that
need
addressed
as
well
as
in
housing?
And
maybe
this
is
a
secondary
opportunity
that
is
not
addressed
in
this
code.
A
L
Sure,
mr
chair
social
services,
the
provider
in
general,
like
I
said
we
would
anticipate
that
folks
who
would
apply
for
this
use
would
be,
would
have
the
capabilities
to
provide
social
services
it.
It
would
be
specifically
to
provide
social
services
related
to
folks
who
needed
needed
housing.
L
So
so
again,
whether
it
be
I
mean
it
could
range
from
you
know.
L
L
It's
just
generally
anticipated
that
anybody
who
would
actually
do
this
use
would
provide
this
use
would
be
providing
social
services.
L
And
there
is
actually
in
the
operation
and
maintenance
plan.
It
does
speak
to
that.
So
perhaps
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
your
ordinance
in
front
of
you
and
because
it's
not
in
my
I'll
just
try
to
read
this.
If
you'll
bear
with
me
here.
A
L
Okay,
so
the
requirement
related
to
management
operational
requirements
is
that
the
applicant
must
submit
a
management
and
operations
plan
that
must
be
provided
by
the
issuing.
That
must
be
approved.
I'm
sorry
by
the
issuing
authority
prior
to
commencement
of
the
use.
The
management
and
operations
plan
must
identify
the
property
management
and
describe
their
demonstrated
experience
and
qualifications.
A
F
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
miss
farnham.
I
looking
at
the
parcels
identified
on
the
map
and
I'm
just
looking
at
two
of
them.
Our
parcels
we've
discussed
tonight,
they're
they're
not
even
necessarily
built
another.
One
of
them
is
under
construction.
Another
one
we
last
year
approved
financing,
for,
I
think
30
percent
ami
housing
for
25
years.
So
I'm
seeing
these
parcels
on
this
map-
and
it
looks
like
to
me
about
half
of
them-
are
not
even
perhaps
considered
under
consideration
for
this
type
of
use.
F
Are
there
other?
I
mean
there.
Are
these
other
ones
under
a
sort
of
long
term,
either
a
tif
kind
of
arrangement
that
would
limited
their
reuse
or
some
other
specific
use
that
I'm
just
kind
of
trying
to
determine
how
many
of
these
are
realistically
even
an
option
for
the
same
abuse.
L
Yeah
a
mr
chair,
commissioner
roman,
as
I
mentioned
when
I
had
had
this
map
up,
so
the
reason
why
we're
limiting
it
to
the
rm
50
is
because
we
see
this
interim
use
as
a
transition
to
a
permanent
housing
kind
of
use.
L
But
it's
a
it's
an
intramuse,
it's
only
two
years,
so
we're
not
anticipating
that
any
of
these
properties
that
are
currently
zoned,
rm
50,
would
be
candidates
for
this
use.
We
wouldn't
anticipate
that
any
of
the
property
owners
here
would
request
an
iup
for
this.
It's
a
two-year
use.
The
entire
property
would
have
to
be
used
for
temporary
pandemic
response
housing.
It
couldn't
be
mixed
in
with
regular
rental
housing,
for
instance.
L
So
we
don't
see
any
of
those
parcels
being
candidates
for
this
use.
It
could
happen,
but
that
just
seems
really
really
unlikely,
given
that
just
the
economics
of
it.
L
So,
for
instance,
you
prob
you're,
probably
aware
that
there's
a
lot
of
hotels
that
are
kind
of
looking
at
shelters,
and
so,
if
one
of
them
came
forward
and
wanted
to
request
this,
they
would
have
to
rezone,
and
we
would
look
at
whether
or
not
so
looking
at
the
rezoning
is
one
point
of
discretion
for
the
city,
whether
or
not
that
site
makes
sense
to
for
long-term
residential
use,
but
again
the
existing
sites
that
are
zoned,
rm
50.
L
F
F
If
I
wanted
to
rent
out
the
hilton
hotel
near
my
house,
and
I
wanted
to
rent
the
whole
hotel,
I
wanted
to
rent
it
for
six
months.
Is
that
permitted
under
current
code.
L
No
because
it's
a
hotel
is
limited
to
a
30-day.
Let's
see
what
that.
F
L
Right
and
actually
one
of
the
the
changes
to
the
hotel
definition
is
to
make
that
very
clear
and
I'll.
Just
read
it
to
you,
it
says
any
building,
so
this
is
the
definition
of
a
hotel
or
motel
any
building
or
combination
of
buildings
containing
six
or
more
rooms
used
for
sleeping
purposes
by
guests,
in
which
a
person
or
person's
pay
for
occupancy
possession
or
tenancy
of
the
property
and
where
the
actual
term
of
occupancy
possession
or
tenancy
of
the
property.
Pursuant
to
that
lease
license
or
other
agreement
is
less
than
30
consecutive
calendar
days.
L
It
doesn't
but-
and
I
may
have
get
some
clarity
here
from
mr
markagaard,
but
that
is
how
we
interpret
something
like
a
hotel
versus
residence
that
we
have,
that
30-day
maximum
stay.
B
Mr
chairman,
so
the
current
definition
of
hotel
says
that
stays
must
be
transient
in
nature.
Now
we
have
another
definition
in
the
zoning
ordinance
about
transient
lodging
facilities
that
talks
about
30-day
or
lessened
stay.
So
that's
clarified
in
another
definition
in
the
zoning
ordinance.
E
E
What
are
the
sizes
of
the
property
types
allowed
like
high-rises
apartments
like
hotels,
stuff
like
that,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
question
asked
by
commissioner
roman
in
terms
of
like
the
the
current
properties
shown
on
the
map
and
your
response
to
possibly
new
applications
not
being
available
to
these
sites,
and
then
new
applicants
would
be
requesting
a
rezoning
application.
E
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
types
of
sizes
of
properties
or
types
of
properties
that
fall
or
permitted
under
our
rn50,
because
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
visualize
is
if,
if
I'm
near
a
property
that
qualifies
for
a
higher
rezoning
and
I'm
in
a
single
family
district
in
a
single
family
house,
but
I'm
possibly
surrounded
by
higher
density,
zoning
classes,
zoning
districts
and
if
I
were
to
apply
for
a
resulting
of
my
property
to
convert
to
a
lab
for
this
type
of
use,
is
a
single
family
house,
possibly
in
an
hour
r
m50
allowed
to
have
this
type
of
temporary
housing
use,
or
is
it
only
in
a
high-rise
apartment,
hotel
style
types
of
housing
projects?
E
I
don't
know
if
that's
clear
at
all
it's
time
to
think
out
loud
in
terms
of
like
types
of
buildings
in
the
rm50
in
this
in
the
zoning
district
and
then
thinking
ahead
for
potential
rezoning
for
a
low-density
single-family
house.
If
it
were
to
be
re-zoned
for
this
type
of
use,
would
it
be
allowed
considering
that
the
allowance
is
based
on
the
district,
not
on
the
property
type.
L
Mr
chair
commissioner,
abdi
I'll
take
a
first
crack,
but
I
think
I'm
gonna
ask
mr
marker
guard
to
jump
in
with
some
of
the
specifics,
because
he's
a
lot
more
familiar
with
all
the
the
details
in
the
code
with
regard
to
lot
sizes
and
and
the
like
again
so
with
regard
to
like
a
single
family
property.
L
In
order
to
do
this
kind
of
use,
you
would
have
to
rezone
to
rm
50
and
probably
that
well.
I
know
that
that
would
not
be
large
enough,
because
a
single
family
site
is
is
you
know
we
don't
have
very
many
single
family
sites
left
that
haven't
been
subdivided
into
a
more
typical
kind
of
lot
size,
and
then
you
would
also
have
to
get
a
re-guiding
of
the
property
go
through
a
comp
plan.
L
Amendment
and
it's
you
know
there
could
be
some
locations
in
the
city
where
that
makes
sense,
but
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
lot
of
locations
that
it
doesn't
make
sense,
because
we
wouldn't
want
to
have
some
island
of
high
density
in
the
middle
of
a
single
family
residential
area.
L
So
I
don't
know
if
that
was
getting
at
part
of
your
question,
but
I
know
part
of
your
question
was
also
about
what
is
the
minimum
size
requirement
and
then
also
the
rm50.
So
it's
called
resident,
multi-family
residential
and
the
50
stands
for
the
maximum
density.
So
that's
50
units
per
acre.
We
also
have
another
district
called
rm24,
which
is
less
and
we've
got
an
rm
100.
L
So
that
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
sort
of
density
that
is
required
in
this
zoning
district.
A
Mr
mark
regard,
would
you
like
to
speak
to
maybe
more
of
the
specifics
on
the
details
of
of
the
rm50
versus
residential
lots.
B
B
A
typical
single
family
lot
in
bloomington
is
11
000
square
feet
so
definitely
not
eligible
from
that
perspective.
But
then,
beyond
that,
the
intent
of
the
section
of
the
rm50
zoning
district
talks
about
land
needing
to
be
near
an
arterial
or
collector
street
needing
to
be
near
high
quality
transit
and
needing
to
be
near
amenities
and
again
that
would
make
most
single
family
lots
ineligible.
So
really
it
would
not
be
feasible
for
a
single
family
lot
to
be
rezoned
to
our
m50.
E
I
guess,
based
on
what
I'm
reading
so
far,
in
the
conversations
that
we're
having
I
feel
like
to
accomplish
this
need
that
exists.
It
is
very
limiting
to
do
that,
based
on
what
is
being
proposed
in
terms
of
the
hour
and
50
requirements
and
based
on
the
availabilities
right
now.
I'm
currently
shown
on
the
map-
and
you
know
any
considerations
in
terms
of
like
dropping
it
to
rm
25
so
that
there
are
more
opportunities
for
properties
in
those
other
districts
that
may
allow
for
this
interviews
to
take
place.
E
L
Yeah
commissioner
abdi
I'll
take
a
first
crack
at
that,
and
maybe
mr
mark
regard
want
to
add
to
this
again,
I
I
mean
you're
correct
there
are.
This
is
just
opening
the
door
a
little
ways
to
accommodate
this
use,
it's
one
tool.
L
L
Kind
of
a
unique
or
almost
emergency
kind
of
a
situation,
and
so
you're
right,
it's
very
limiting
here,
but
again,
even
if
we
opened
it
up
to
rm24
most
of
those
properties
unless
it
was
a
vacant
parcel
and
even
if
it
was
a
vacant
parcel
for
somebody
to
come
in
and
develop
a
new
structure
in
order
to
do
this
use.
The
economics
are
such
that
to
do
that
for
to
to
get
permission
to
do
it
for
two
years.
L
It's
it's
really
probably
not
going
to
be
feasible.
So
the
the
most
likely
scenario
for
the
use
for
the
application
of
this
iup
tool
would
be
for
the
reuse
of
an
existing
hotels.
Are
the
the
easiest?
L
Probably
choice
or
you
know,
a
use
like
that
you're
not
going
to
convert
a
property
owner
is
unlikely
to
convert
an
existing,
say,
rental
apartment
building
in
order
to
allow
it
to
be
used
for
two
years
for
temporary
pandemic
response
housing.
It
could
happen
if
you
had
like
a
completely
vacant
building,
just
the
the
possibility
that
the
situation
of
of
that
happening
is
is
pretty
pretty
remote.
E
E
If
there
is
a
vacant
lot,
considering
that
this
is
an
interim
use,
if
there
is
an
entity
that
had
the
money
to
construct
temporary
structures
on
a
vacant
lot
that
meets
the
lot
sizes
in
in
this
subject
district.
Would
that
be
considered
based
on
my
reading
right
now?
It
says
it
it
would
likely
not
be.
It
would
have
to
be
in
existing
structures.
Is
that
true.
L
Commissioner
abdi,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
in
a
existing
structure.
The
economics
are
such
that
to
build
a
building
for
a
usage
is
only
allowed
for
two
years.
L
E
Again,
mr
chair,
would
a
trailer
style
structure
meet
and
there
have
been
a
lot
of
different
models
out
there,
that
reconfigure
trailers
and,
like
tinier,
tiny
homes,
type
of
styles,
that
are
can
be
plotted
on
the
huge
lot.
That's
out
there
to
house
number
of
people
with
that.
Is
that
something
that
the
city
is
open
to,
considering
as
an
alternative,
temporary
use
of
the
site
and
whoever
that
entity
ends
up
being?
E
Can
pack
up
those
structures
and
possibly
reuse
them
at
a
different
parts
of
the
county
or
somewhere
else
in
the
state?
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
an
alternative
to,
because
this
is
an
an
interim
use.
It's
very
limited
in
terms
of
like
the
period
of
two
years
up
to
five
years,
I
believe
to
not
limit
the
the
creativity
of
the
housing
needs
ways
we
can
provide
housing
to
folks
in
need,
even
in
a
temporary
period.
E
Sorry,
I'm
thinking
out
loud
and
it
might
not
come
it's
not
coming
out
as
a
specific
question
and
maybe
it's
more
of
a
comment,
but
is
there
limitations
to
having
tiny
homes
for
a
better
like
a
lot
of
a
better
word
tiny
homes
on
one
of
those
lots
to
allow?
For
this
to
happen,.
L
Commissioner
abdi
well
first,
I
want
to
say
you
know
I
I
appreciate
kind
of
your
line
of
questioning.
I
mean
you're,
getting
at
an
issue
that
we
are
certainly
aware
of,
and
that
is
affordable
housing
having
enough
for
affordable
housing.
Addressing
that
situation
and
also,
as
I
said,
obviously,
in
our
comp
plan,
we
were
even
thinking
about
the
homeless
situation
and
are
aware
that
you
know
the
suburbs
are
not
immune
to
homelessness,
and-
and
these
are
issues
that
the
city
is
interested
in.
L
Addressing
this
particular
tool
is
a
very
limited
tool,
and
is
you
know
for
lack
of
a
better
word?
You
could
maybe
say
it's
kind
of
a
baby
step
in
in
that
direction.
L
L
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
at
is
also
because
not
just
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
the
whole
shifting
of
markets
and
we're
already
starting
to
see
some
interest
in
reuse
of
hotels,
for
instance,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
hotels
in
in
bloomington,
as
as
you
are
aware,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
having
on
our
our
work
plan
for
next
year
is,
is
doing
a
study
of
hotel
conversions
to
residential
as
a
way
to
you
know,
explore
some
opportunities
to
maybe
create
more
affordable
housing.
L
So
that's
just
an
example
of
just
another
thing,
so
so
there's
we're
gonna
have
to
move
forward
on
multiple
fronts.
Here
this
is
really
a
single
tool.
It's
a
it's
a
small
tool,
that's
trying
to
address
a
very
kind
of
specific
set
of
circumstances,
and
so
it's
it's
not
designed
to
address
some
of
these
broader
issues
that
you've
brought
up,
but
but
that's
not
to
say
that
the
city
that
those
aren't
on
the
city's
radar
and
that
the
city
doesn't
want
to
take
steps
to
address
those.
A
The
mute
button
got
me
there
right.
Any
other
commissioners
have
questions
for
staff
at
this
point,
just
just
a
clarification
again,
and
I
think
commissioner
roman
brought
it
up.
Currently
we
don't
have
any
kind
of
provision
that
would
allow
kind
of
this
temporary
response
to
pandemic.
That
would
allow
more
than
30
days
in
any
of
any
facilities
in
the
city
is
that
is
that
correct.
A
And
so
this
is
again,
while
doesn't
in
its
own
right,
open
up
facilities,
it
does
open
up
the
door
for
other
facilities
or
other
locations
to
go
through
the
city
process.
A
Okay,
all
right,
I
just
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
That's
where
that
is
commissioner
goldsman.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair,
one
question
I
have
is
just
about
the
timeline
of
these
types
of
requests.
So
I'm
talking
about
someone
in
let's
say
a
hotel
type
situation.
30
days
is
our
limit.
What
is
a
typical
turnaround
for
a
rezoning
request?
D
L
Currently,
we
only
allow
up
to
30
days
for
a
stay
in
like
a
hotel,
we'd
and,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
this
tool
is
trying
to
do
so.
This
would
allow
this
use
to
exist
for
up
to
two
years
as
opposed
so
it
wouldn't
be
subjected
to
that
30-day
limit
that
hotels
are
subjected
to
so
and
that
two-year
clock
would
start
at
the
time
that
the
the
use
actually
commenced.
L
So
the
rezoning-
and
all
of
that
would
happen
before
those
would
all
be
part
of
the
entitlement
process,
but
in
general
rezoning
you
know
you
you
come
in
and
you
do
your
application
and
it's
60
days.
You
know
we
try
to
turn
things
around
in
in
60
days
now.
If
there
is
a
comp
plan
amendment
which
it's
very
likely
that
there
would
be
a
comp
plan
amendment-
and
some
of
these
can
happen
administratively-
we
you
know
kind
of
have
to
look
at
the
case
by
case
basis.
L
And
that
has
to
do
with
the
different
factors
like
impacts
on
regional
systems
etc,
and
how
many,
how
big
the
parcel
is
and
how
many
units
it
might
involve,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
every
situation
could
be
unique,
but
if
it
could
happen
administratively,
it
can
happen
really
concurrently
with
the
rezoning.
L
So
that
could
be
fairly
fairly
quick.
I
mean
it
would
be
as
quick
as
any
anybody
coming
through
with
a
final
site
and
building
plan
recommendation
or
application,
so
it
could
be
as
quick
as
is
60
days.
You
know,
sometimes,
as
you
know,
things
get
delayed
or
postponed
at
you
know
you
get
into
a
public
hearing
situation
or
if
it's
controversial
and
and
more
information
is
requested,
and
so
so
that
can
happen,
and
that
can
delay
a
process.
L
But
generally
we
are
required
to
turn
around
approvals.
I
think
in
the
maximum
it's
120
days,
so
so
that
would
be
kind
of
what
the
far
outside
and
does
that
answer.
Your
question.
D
Partially,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
question
making
sure
so
the
reason
I
ask
is,
I
know,
we're
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic
and
people
need
housing
today.
So
if
somebody
starts
the
process
they
have
30
days
to
essentially
have
them
in
you
know
hotel
and
then
the
they
can
do
the
the
request
for
rezoning.
D
You
know
I
just
want
to
know
when
this
the
clock
starts
to
tick
for
them,
how
how
quickly
we
turn
things
around,
and
so
that's
just
I
understand
that
30
days
it
doesn't
apply
to
this,
but
it
could
apply
to
somebody
who
would
need
housing
and
getting
the
setup
so
yeah.
I
think
I'm
I'm
good
now.
Thank
you
sure.
L
And
commissioner
goldsmith
just
to
to
follow
up
on
on
one
thing,
so
we
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
this
in
the
code,
because
you
know
this
pandemic
could
endure
for
a
while,
certainly
for
the
next
year-
and
you
know
the
we
certainly
have
heard
a
lot
about.
You
know
this
sort
of
pandemic
could
come
along
again.
Maybe
it'll
be
50
years.
L
B
Yes,
mr
chairman,
commissioners,
just
one
clarification
for
the
record
in
terms
of
the
tiny
homes
bloomington
city
codes
currently
do
not
allow
a
tiny
home
so
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
would
require
a
code.
Amendment.
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
ms
barnum,
just
maybe
a
bit
of
a
further
conversation
question
on
the
hotel.
So
if
an
existing
low
density
hotel
had
an
application
to
be
converted
into
this
temporary
housing,
so
it
gets
rezoned
to
rm50
and
then
the
hotel
becomes
a
usage
and
it's
an
interim
user
permit
for
two
years.
H
L
L
So
what
would
expire
after
the
two
years
is
the
temporary
use
of
the
property.
So
in
looking
at
the
rezoning
of
these,
I
mean
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
would
be
looking
at
is
the
suitability
for
long-term
permanent
housing
to
transition
to
long-term
permanent
housing?
So
so
that's
certainly
the
intent
is
to
set
this
up
so
that
you
can
transition
from
the
interim
use
to
a
permanent
multi-family
residential
use.
H
B
Mr
chair
go
ahead,
mr
marker
guard
commissioner
cookton
just
to
add
on
to
that
with
the
rm50
rezoning.
It
would
not
be
able
to
go
back
to
a
hotel.
Hotels
are
not
allowed
in
rm-50,
so
that's
one
characteristic
of
rezoning
to
rm
50
is
if
it
were
a
hotel,
originally
converted
to
temporary
pandemic
response
housing.
A
H
I
do
have
a
further
question
if
I
may
is
there
any
limit?
Maybe
this
is
a
question
from
mr
marker
gardener.
Miss
barnum.
J
H
L
Commissioner
cookdown,
we
certainly
don't
have
restrictions
on
you
applying
to
rezone
whether
you
would
actually
get
an
approval
to
do
that
is
another
is
another
question,
though
I
mean,
and
and
again
the
likelihood
of
somebody
doing
that,
because
it's
a
process
to
to
rezone
and
again
you'd
probably
have
to
re-guide
it
again
and
there's
fees
involved
and
and
whatnot,
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
something
that
people
do
or
developers
do
just
lightly.
But
but
that
said,
could
somebody
come
in
after
two
years?
L
Is
up
and
and
say
you
know,
the
market
has
shifted
and
office
is
really
hot
and,
and
you
know
I
I
want
to
propose
rezoning
this
to
an
office
or
or
something
or
commercial
zoning
district,
and
you
know
we
would
look
at
it
it's
an
application.
We
would.
We
would
review
it
whether
it
would
make
sense
or
not
and
would
be
approved.
I
guess
is,
would
be
based
on
the
specific
circumstances.
A
Sure
all
right,
all
right,
one
more
time
here,
any
commission
planning,
commission
members
have
any
questions
for
staff
at
this
point
triggered
any
additional
questions
that
you're
looking
to
answer
from
staff.
A
Not
seeing
is
a
city
is
the
applicant
we'll
move
to
open
public
hearing
and
mr
marker
guard
are:
is
there
any
individuals
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
item?
At
this
point,.
B
Mr
chairman,
we
had
nobody
pre-registered
to
speak,
okay
and
nobody
has
called
in
this
evening.
Yet
I
just
checked
with
mr.
We
did
receive
one
email
during
the
meeting.
I
think
6
38
p.m,
and
I
have
forwarded
that
to
the
planning
commissioners,
and
that
has
been
our
only
correspondence
on
this
item.
A
Okay,
as
we
are
all
in
in
this,
would
it
I
guess
I
would
ask
the
commission
members
if
you
think
it'd
be
appropriate
at
this
point.
If
staff
could
read
that
email
for
us
or
summarize
it
if
I
can
get
a
verbal
indication
of
up
or
down,
I
would
appreciate
that
I'm
seeing
some
yeses
so
mr
marker
guard,
if
you
could,
please
provide
that
information
for
us
here
in
the
meeting
that
would
be
appreciated.
B
A
G
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
providing
that
for
us.
I
think
a
lot
of
these
questions
have
already
been
asked
by
the
planning
commission
members
to
staff.
A
So
with
that,
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
whole
lot
additional.
That
needs
to
be
just
asked
of
staff
at
this
point
that
won't
be
covered
most
likely
in
in
our
our
discussion
on
the
event.
So
with
that
being
the
only
public
comment
at
this
point,
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
Commissioner
roman
all
right,
I
have
a
motion
to
close
public
hearing.
Is
there
a
second.
A
E
A
Commissioner,
cookton
hi
an
eye
for
myself
motion,
passes
public
hearing
is
now
closed.
Now
for
discussion
on
the
request
in
front
of
us
from
planning
commission
members,
would
anybody
like
to
start
us
off.
A
I
will
go
ahead
and
start
with
some
thoughts
on
the
subject
initially.
Seeing
this,
I
I
I
like
the
idea
that
the
city
is
is
taking
the
approach
of
looking
at
an
ordinance
that
will
lay
out
conditions
for
which
a
temporary
housing
can
exist
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
A
As
I
think
many
people
are
aware,
there
are
some
facilities
in
bloomington
right
now
that
are
operating,
and
I
also
understand
that
those
are
under
some
level
of
enforcement,
so
taking
a
step
forward
to
allow
it
is
a
positive,
although
it
does
strike
me
as
ironic
that
we
talk
about
temporary
pandemic
response
and
just
from
what
we
heard
even
tonight.
Here
is
the
length
of
time
that
it
could
potentially
take
to
establish
this.
A
Based
on
what
we've
seen
here
tonight,
because
there
is
a
need
that
exists,
there
is
a
need
to
make
sure
that
the
city
has
controls
around
providing
facilities
just
and
for
uses,
just
like
any
other
use,
that's
in
the
city,
but
on
the
other
side
we're
we're
kind
of
stuck
with
this
long
process.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
your
conversation
started
in
the
direction
of
some
of
my
initial
thoughts.
You
know
we
we
all
are
aware
that
the
homeless
or
I
think
the
term
of
ireland
have
been
hearing
lightly
as
houseless.
The
houseless
crisis
is
not
new
and
it's
not
going
away.
F
So,
while
the
ability
of
existing
long-term
shelters
to
house
people
has
been
reduced,
creating
extra
pressures,
I
don't
think
this
is
a
long-term
problem
that
is
going
is
going
away
and
so
well,
we
might
be
helping
to
ease
pressure
on
some
facilities
in
the
short
term
that
will
exist
afterward.
F
F
Some
of
this
use
and
there
were
challenges
even
when
they
were
there.
They
made
a
different
choice
of
where
to
stay
in
the
future.
For
that
reason,
so
I
get
that
we
don't
want
to
have
multiple
uses
in
the
same
place.
I
really
appreciate
the
staffs
outline
about
the
criteria
in
the
safety
column.
I
think
those
are
those
are
a
good
thing
to
have
in
a
plan.
Those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
I
would
want
to
see
in
a
use
that
is
in
some
ways.
F
Transient
I
mean,
even
though
it
is
a
longer
use
for
people
who
are
homeless.
This
is
not
intended
to
be
permanent
home,
even
for
those
folks.
F
So
those
things
that
I'm
all
in
alignment
on
what
I
struggle
with
is
on
one
hand,
we've
identified
a
list
of
concerns
that
we
want
to
make
sure
would
be
addressed
in
this
kind
of
abuse,
and
then
we're
saying
this
kind
of
you
should
only
be
in
a
residential
area
which
is
typically
your
more
long-term
permanent
residence,
and
I'm
not
sure
that
I
find
those
to
be
a
match
that
I
would
that
I
would
agree
with,
I
think,
having
those
kinds
of
uses
and
some
of
the
places
where
again
I
understand
we
talked
about
that.
F
Our
existing
hotels
could
be
candidates
for
that.
Only
under
a
rezoning,
then
some
of
the
hotels
that
we
have
that
are
near
adjacent
to
a
residential
area
where
sometimes
our
rm50
is
not
usually
an
island
unto
itself.
It's
usually
somewhat
connected
with
other
residential
uses.
So,
but
I
think
the
hardest
thing
for
me
is
that
what
this
ordinance
says
to
me
is
that
if
you
want
to
essentially
have
your
hotel
be
used
for
something
else,
you're
done
being
a
hotel
in
bloomington,
and
that
feels
I
doesn't
feel
right
to
me
this.
F
This
there's
parts
of
this.
I
like
there's
parts
of
this
that
feel
very
old
school.
Let
the
suburbs
be
a
sheltered
island
unto
themselves
and
that
doesn't
sit
right
with
me.
So
that's
those
are
my
initial
thoughts
right
now.
D
Yeah,
I
would
echo
what
commissioner
roman
commented
on
is
turning.
You
know
resounding
turning
it
into
one
use
and
then
not
being
able
to
go
back
to
using
it
as
a
hotel
market
requires.
I
think
that
also
doesn't
sit
well
as
well
as
it
it.
It
makes
it.
So
it's
no
longer
a
temporary
situation,
and
I
hope
that
we're
we're
not
two
years
talking
about
mimicking
more
or
the
situation,
but
you
know
being
able
to
react
and
and
server
feel
this
need
quickly.
D
D
I'm
not
quite
sure
that
I
would
agree.
I
think
this
being
a
baby
step
or
a
small
tool,
I
think,
is
great.
Maybe
we
need
to
refine
it
a
bit
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
we're
helping
those
those
people
that
need
that
resource
and
facility.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
also
have
a
concern
with
the
rezoning
to
rm50
and
being
left
with
a
a
non-conforming
use
after
your
interim
use.
Perimeter
is
up,
I
think,
there's
also
a
practical
limitation
that
you
know
a
pandemic
is
inherently
unforeseen
and
so,
in
the
event
of
a
future
pandemic,
to
convert
a
hotel
into
this
usage,
you
have
to
convert
the
hotel
and
then
also
be
willing
to
redevelopment
redevelop
it
into
a
higher
density
usage
or
a
residential
usage.
H
It
seems
to
me
that,
if
you're
willing
to
redevelop
it
later
on,
the
financials
will
probably
tell
you
to
just
re
redevelop
it
right
away,
and
so
I
have
a
hard
time
seeing
where
it
could
ever
be
accomplished
where
an
existing
hotel
gets
converted
for
two
years
and
then
gets
developed
into
something
else
due
to
the
just
the
surprise,
nature
of
a
pandemic
and
financials
that
go
into
a
project
like
that.
Take
a
long
time,
and
I
see
some
real
practical
difficulties
in
this
playing
out
for
hotels
with
the
current
setup
of
of
this
application.
D
You
know
when
I,
when
I
look
at
this
project,
that
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
You
know
to
the
developers
and
and
for
for
putting
this
together
for
bringing
this
this
type
of
initiative.
I
think
it's
very
important.
You
know
that
we
recognize
the
need.
The
current
need
that
we
have,
especially
during
this
pandemic
and
for
me
to
even
imagine
that
there
will
be
a
place
for
many
families
where
they
can
be,
even
if
it's
for
for
a
year
or
two.
D
I
think
that's
a
great
step.
So
I
truly
appreciate
that
you
know
there's
there's
a
lot
of
our
students
that
are
homeless,
their
families
are
homeless
and
they
need
a
place
to
go.
They
need
a
place.
That's
a
stable,
a
place,
a
constant
situation
that
provides
a
stability
versus
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
where
to
go
back
and
forth
from
place
to
place
during
pandemic
time
when
it
is
already
difficult.
The
learning-
that's
that's
happening
right
now.
During
this
pandemic,
this
pandemic
makes
it
a
lot
more
difficult.
D
So
I
I
truly
appreciate
the
fact
that
maybe
there
is
an
opportunity
there
for
many
families.
I
do
have
same
concerns
that
other
commissioners
have
expressed.
You
know
in
terms
of
this
could
prevent
some
of
the
owners
from
taking
the
step
into
facilitating
this
this
type
of
setting,
if
they
know
that
they
cannot
go
back
to
where
they
were
before.
So
that
would
be
kind
of
my.
My
main
concern
is:
are
we?
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Corman
commissioner
abdi.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
my
only
I
appreciate
staff's
presentation
and
the
dialogue
that
we're
having
about
this
need
of
this.
The
need
of
this
ordinance,
my
only
feeling,
is
that
it
is
too
restrictive
the
question
from
the
public.
The
comment
that
we
received
was
you
know,
is
this
pandemic
definition
as
a
result
of
the
covet
that
we're
trying
to
get
at
some
of
the
presentation.
Conversations
included
homelessness
in
general.
Is
that
a
pandemic
in
itself,
but
per
definition?
E
The
question
alluded
also
to
the
civil
unrest,
and
I
don't
think
that's
what
we're
talking
about
when
we
say
pandemic.
I'm
assuming
that-
and
it's
stefan
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
when
we
say
pandemic
in
this
case
we're
talking
about
the
the
covet
situation
that
we're
facing
and
some
of
the
families
being
displaced
and
the
need
that's
happening
right
now
to
house
individuals
to
make
sure
that
people
are
healthy
and
are
meeting
need
the
needs
for
housing.
I
feel
that
rm
50
is
too
restrictive.
E
I'm
not
sure
I
haven't
closely
looked
at
the
other
districts
that
you
mentioned,
the
rm
24
25.
You
said
in
another
one
that
you
mentioned
what
the
concentration
of
those
are
and
their
disbursements
of
those
districts
districts
throughout
the
city
are
like
if
we
are
really
trying
to
address
this
need
in
the
community,
considering
that
it
is
a
short
period
of
time
through
the
interim
use,
I
think
opening
it
up
a
little
bit
more
to
other
districts.
E
I
might-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
field
would
be
like
for
staff
to
allow
this
in
other
districts,
but
I
feel
like
r
50
is
in
itself,
is
too
restrictive
and
having
to
have
considering
that
rezoning
is
a
land
use
application
that
it
stays
with
the
property
when
an
application
to
rezone
comes
through?
If,
if,
if
it's
approved
for
future
rezoning
to
an
rn50,
that
property
will
continue
to
forever
be
rn50,
unless
somebody
else
ends
up
rezoning
it
to
something
else.
E
D
Chair,
may
I
be
recognized.
D
Thank
you,
chair
planning,
commissioners,.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
megan
rogers.
Can
you
please
address
us.
I
Chair
and
members
of
the
planning
commission-
I
I
want
to
take
a
moment
as
we
work
through
this,
to
talk
about
the
sort
of
different
rights
and
responsibilities
that
are
indicated
by
the
interim
use
process
in
general,
and
so,
unlike
a
conditional
use,
permit
that
you
approved
earlier
this
evening.
The
interim
use
is
intended
to
target.
I
It
has
to
be
limited
in
the
duration
of
its
nature,
and
it
it
must
it's
usually
it's
it's
intended
to
look
at
a
specific
need,
and
so
I
think
when
we
we
think
about
what
this,
what
the
rezoning
re-guiding
and
the
interim
used
current
would
do
together
is
it
would
be
looking
at
a
property
to
see
whether
or
not
it
is
appropriate
place
to
house
people
and
to
provide
services
to
them
successfully
for
a
period
of
a
pandemic
response,
but
then,
perhaps
more
importantly,
it's
also
projecting
into
the
future.
I
To
say
this
facility
was
appropriate
for
residential
use.
It
has
access
to
transit,
it
has
access
to
the
additional
to
the
artillery
roadways
so
that
people
can
get
to
work
into
jobs
and
to
do
other
things
that
they
need
to
to
have
to
be
successful.
Members
of
the
community
and
and
so
that,
at
the
expiration
of
this
pandemic
it
would
retain
its
residential
character.
I
It
would
be
appropriate
for
the
residential
surroundings
and
then
would
provide
for
housing
potentially
after
being
potentially
outfitted
or
already
existingly
appropriate
for
residential
housing
would
provide
very
low
to
low
income
housing
for
people
and
improve
that
stock.
I
That
30
stock
that
you
were
talking
with
show
quest
earlier
about
tonight
in
our
in
the
meeting
today,
and-
and
so
I
think,
if
you
that's
the
that's
sort
of
the
policy
craft
that
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
moving
from
the
interim
use
to
a
more
permanent
use,
rather
than
thinking
of
this
as
a
band-aid.
It's
more
of
an
opportunity
that
this
is
a
this
is
a
good
site
for
living.
I
There's
access
to
things
around
it
that
people
need
that,
recognizing
that
hotels
can
be
used
to
shelter
people,
but
they
are
not
necessarily
appropriate
for
housing,
and
so
this
is
more
housing
in
nature
than
hotel
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
definitions
that
we
have
presented
for
you
tonight,
to
sort
of
clarify
what
the
long-standing
interpretation
has
been
of
city
staff.
I
Of
what
transient
occupancy
is
for
hotels,
and
so
I
I
just
think
it's
important
to
clarify
that
the
the
interim
youth
is
really
intended
to
put
to
create
a
successful
space
for
temporary
pandemic
relief
facilities.
In
addition
to
providing
space
for
transition
to
more
permanent
housing
in
the
future.
A
Thank
you
just
just
a
quick
question,
because
I
I'm
following
some
of
the
logic
there,
but
on
the
other
side,
the
question
I'd
have
is:
if
we're
thinking
about
addressing
kind
of
the
immediate
needs,
with
this
ordinance
in
front
of
us
with
transitioning
to
the
future,
it
doesn't
prohibit
it.
If
we
allowed
the
underlying
use
to
be
maintained
and
then
they
came
forward
with
a
development
plan
in
two
years,
would
it.
A
A
I
think
people
are
using
the
example
of
a
hotel,
but
there
could
be
other
buildings
or
structures
that
could
be
used
potentially
in
this
manner,
but
allowing
an
interim
use
in
that
sort
of
facility
as
a
response
to
these
unique
times
for
a
specific
time
period.
A
I
Well,
and
so
this
is
why
the
rm50
designation
is
important,
because
what
we
would
ask
an
applicant
to
do
who
is
applying
for
this
interim
use
is
to
say
this
is
an
appropriate
site
for
residential
housing.
I
And
so
I
am
asking
for
a
rezoning
and
potentially
a
reguiding
to
rm-50,
and
the
iup
is
specifically
eligible
to
be
used
in
the
rm50
district,
because
it
would
meet
the
immediate
needs
of
a
population,
but
also
would
meet
the
future
needs
of
a
population
and
so
that
it
would,
and-
and
so
that's
why
all
of
those
things
go
together,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
want
to
be
thoughtful
about
in
utilizing.
The
iup
is
that
the
property
can
be
successful
in
meeting
all
the
conditions
of
the
youth.
I
And
so
there
are
very
specific
properties
that
are
probably
well
suited
to
that
in
the
city,
and
the
city
would
be
able
to
make
the
rezoning
and
the
reguiding
findings
in
relationship
to
those
properties.
There
are
other
properties
that
probably
would
not
be
as
appropriate
for
long-term
housing.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
for
either
megan
rogers
or
heather
worthington
from
commission
members?
Commissioner,
corman
is
your
hand
up?
Oh
sorry,
all
right,
any
other
commission
members.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
to
staff
for
those
additional
details.
I
I
rely
on
the
wisdom
of
folks
who
do
this
professionally
to
help
us
understand
these
things.
I
guess
I
don't
disagree
with
some
of
the
the
logic
for
some
of
those
ideas
about
why
we
might
say
they.
F
I
do
agree
that
you
know
we
want
to
provide
housing
for
almost
individuals
or
families,
it's
desirable
for
it
to
be
a
a
residential
type
of
an
environment
where
there
is
going
to
be
a
transition,
hopefully
the
folks,
to
a
permanent
housing
situation.
F
I
also
think
that
there
is
part
there's,
oh
yeah.
We
know
there's
a
confluence
of
reasons
that
this
is
even
on
the
table.
One
is
you
know
we
have
people
who
are
in
crisis.
We
have
a
system
that
can't
doesn't
have
enough
capacity
to
provide
housing
for
them.
We
have
a
hotel
industry,
that's
in
crisis
due
to
the
pandemic
and
travel
is
down
and-
and
you
know,
folks
are
struggling
to
keep
their
businesses
afloat,
and
then
we
have
an
influx
of
federal
dollars
to
try
to
support
some
of
these
things.
F
I
can
see
you
know
you
can
see
where
these
pieces
come
together.
My
concern
would
be
is
xx.
Property
is,
is
interested
in
providing
this
type
of
housing
under
the
terms
that
we've
laid
out
for
an
iup,
and
it
happens
for
the
maximum
amount
of
two
years.
F
I'm
unsure
that
the
resources
are
going
to
be
there
in
two
years
to
convert
that
to
long-term
housing.
If
that
was
the
case
to
one
of
the
comments
earlier,
it
would
have
gone
just
directly
to
that
already
or
someone
may
go
directly
to
that.
So
what
my
concern
might
be
is
that
by
requiring
this
kind
of
a
shift
in
properties,
designation
and
kind
of
essentially
forcing
the
hand
of
the
future
use,
there
is
a
possibility.
F
You
could
have
a
property
that
goes
vacant
and
these
would
not
be
small
properties
in
an
rm50
type
of
situation.
So
those
are
just
my
observations.
My
concern
is
that
I
go
back
to
for
me.
I
like
the
idea
of
having
parameters
having
guidelines
having
this
is.
F
This
is
not
our
typical
use
of
of
space
for
transitional
housing
like
this,
whether
it
be
in
a
hotel
area,
something
a
zone
for
a
hotel
or
an
r50
or
wherever
that
is-
and
I
think,
setting
those
boundaries
and
those
parameters,
I
think,
are
all
important,
but
given
that
it's
a
temporary
use
and
it's
a
very
temporary
use
with
pandemic,
I
personally
I
am
not
as
as
comfortable
with
the
very
limited
designation
of
our
m50,
but
there
are,
as
I
said
earlier,
there
are
many
good
things
in
here
that
I
think
are
important.
F
I
think
they're
needed,
because
what
we've
seen
in
bloomington
and
some
other
areas
is
that
absent
that
there
are
problems,
and
we
want
this
to
be
successful
for
property
owners.
We
want
this
to
be
successful
for
people
who
are
living
in
this
temporary
housing.
We
want
this
to
be
successful
for
either
other
businesses
or
homes
or
whatever
it
is
adjacent
to
these
uses,
because,
as
we
know,
it's
not
just
about
homelessness,
it's
often
an
intersection
of
homelessness
with
rats
addiction,
homelessness,
perhaps
with
mental
health
or
other
types
of
intersecting
things.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
too
appreciate
the
clarifications
from
staff
on
that,
and
I
see
the
I
see
the
intent
of
trying
to
you
know
transition
to
a
use.
That's
that's
future
housing
in
an
rm50
district.
I
I
appreciate
the
intent
there.
My
problem
is,
the
practical
transition
of
that
happened.
Happening
really
puts
an
onus
on
the
developer
of
an
applicant
or
developer
to
redevelop.
H
If
and
I'm
not
even
sure,
that's
the
same
applicant
to
the
the
type
of
applicant
that's
going
to
apply
to
do
a
a
temporary
housing
during
a
pandemic
is
probably
not
the
same
applicant
that
wants
to
develop
a
high
density
set
of
whether
it
be
market
rate
or
some
sort
of
mixed
market
rate,
rm,
50
type
of
a
housing
project,
and
so
I
I
don't
even
know
if
that's
the
same
same
applicants,
and
so
I
think
we're
putting
an
onus
of
redevelopment
on
an
applicant
that
wants
to
put
up
this
type
of
housing,
and
I
have
a
hard
time
supporting
that.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Cook
done.
You
know
a
bit
to
your
point
on
this
and
just
thinking
about
the
idea
of
this
redevelopment
and
I
think,
as
planning
commission
members
we've
seen
plenty
of
these
redevelopments
come
through
over
the
years,
and
I
don't
think
I've
heard
of
one
that
says
we
put
this
together
in
the
last
two
months
or
the
last
30
days.
A
They
take
quite
a
substantial
amount
of
time,
and
so
much
to
your
comment,
commissioner
cookdown
is,
I
think,
you're
not
going
to
get
the
application
or
the
practical
application
of
this
ordinance
as
we
propose
it
or
as
it's
proposed,
and
then
I
started
to
think
a
little
bit
more
about
as
an
interim
use
permit.
A
I
I
think
that
it
could
be
argued
that
the
property
you
know
is
potentially
already
ripe
for
redevelopment
and
the
iup
is
a
mechanism
to
perpetuate
its
current
use.
While
redevelopment
plans
are
finalized-
and
I
don't
think
the
staff
is
looking
at
this
as
a
the
applicant
for
the
iup
and
the
eventual
property
owner
developer
are
necessarily
the
same
parties.
I
So
very
much
in
a
scenario
that
I'm
thinking
about.
You
could
have
a
government
actor
who
would
provide
a
response,
housing
situation
and
then
a
nonprofit
developer
that
they
would
coordinate
with
over
the
course
of
their
two-year
period,
would
come
in
and
would
be
appropriate
to
to
provide
that
long-term
housing
and
potential
further
conversion.
A
A
A
I
think
that
this
current
as
it's
written,
doesn't
do
that
as
well
as
I
believe
other
options
that
commissioners
have
talked
about,
and
so
I,
as
it's
written,
I
can't
support
this
ordinance.
Amendment.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
guess
I
find
myself
in
the
same
position
and
I
won't
repeat
the
the
things
that
I've
shared
already.
I
think
the
the
thrust
of
those
are
clear
again
supportive
of
the
concept,
but
not
this
implementation.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
would
agree
with
you
sherry
roman
comments.
D
One
of
my
concerns
is
just
we
are
in
the
middle
of
pandemic,
and
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
of
our
community
members
that
need
housing,
and
so,
although
I
don't
don't
support
the
applicant
application
in
front
of
us,
I
I
don't
want
us
to
move
steam
or
lose
time,
especially
as
we're
getting
into
the
colder
months.
So
I
would
just
implore
the
city
staff
to
come
back
with
to
us
with
a
few
revisions
that
we
potentially
could
discuss
again
and
okay.
D
Overall,
I
can't
support
this
as
a
technique
as
well.
A
A
Okay,
the
floor
is
yours:
megan.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Could
staff
please
get
some
feedback
on
what
specifically
what
I'm
hearing
from
staff,
I
should
say,
is
from
hearing
from
staff.
What
I'm
hearing
from
from
the
commission
is
that
you
would
like
to
see
something.
That's
broader
that
applies
to
more
districts
throughout
the
city.
Would
that
be
a
correct
interpretation
of
the
sort
of
consensus
of
the
planning
commission.
A
F
Think
that's
accurate,
I
think
for
me.
I
would
like
to
see
something
where,
where
we
have
the
the
parameters
and
the
guidelines
and
the
boundaries
that
are
proposed
here,
but
that
can
be
applied
in
other
areas
without
forcing
a
permanent
change,
and
if
that
means
that
the
interim
use
is
shorter,
I
would
be
open
to
that.
F
F
I
think
that
would
make
that,
in
addition
to
what
is
proposed
here
as
the
rm-50,
which
then
perhaps
would
have
a
longer
iup
time
horizon
for
me,
that
would
feel
more
in
the
spirit
of
addressing
the
most
immediate
need,
but
then
also
fitting
in
with
the
longer
term
need
of
the.
A
City,
I'm
seeing
some
other
nods
in
that
general
direction.
I
would
add
to
that.
I
think
one
of
the
things
from
at
least
my
perspective
is
that
they
we
have
potential
areas
that
are
underutilized
now
that
could
be
utilized.
A
However,
that
doesn't
mean,
and
so
that's
opening
up
those
uses
to
your
point.
It
doesn't
maybe
the
the
conditions
are
there
much
like
we,
we
saw
on
the
interim
use
permit,
but
maybe
there's
incentives
for
future
re-guiding
for
rm50
or
something
like
that.
F
Or
perhaps,
if
sorry,
mr
sheriff
go
ahead,
if
there
was
something
that's
not
a
permanent
reselling
or
re-guiding
that
it
would
have
to
be
perhaps
tied
to,
I
don't
know
if
the
city's
still
under
declared
state
of
emergency
for
the
pandemic
or
not,
but
it
may
have
to
be
tied
to
something
like
a
declaration
of
emergency
or
something.
I
Yes,
mr
chair,
and
to
into
to
fully
you
serve
mr
mark
garrett's
authority,
I
apologize
mr
muskguard
for
inserting
myself
in
this
meeting,
but
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
that,
based
upon
the
feedback
that
the
planning
commission
has
provided
tonight,
it
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
separate
this
recommendation
into
two
separate
groups,
so
the
iup
for
staff
to
go
back
and
do
some
work
on
making
changes
to
that
in
conjunction
with
the
feedback
was
received.
A
All
right,
mr
marker
guard
thoughts
on
crafting
resolutions
with
that,
because
I
I
think
to
that
point
I
did
not
hear
anybody
speak
against
some
of
the
ordinance
definitions
as
as
we
discussed,
it
was
really
more
about
the
iup.
B
I
A
All
right,
commission
members,
so
I
think
we
heard
kind
of
maybe
two
potential
areas
there.
We
could
recommend
the
ordinance
says
proposed
with
strong
recommendation
of
adding
additional
zoning
districts.
A
However,
that
does
kind
of
leave
open
the
interpretation
without
you
guys
seeing
that,
but
it
does
address
kind
of
a
speedy
response
and
I
think
certainly
our
discussion
will
be
presented
to
the
city
council,
so
they
will
hear
what
we
have
discussed.
The
other
option
is,
as
you
you
may
have
heard,
is-
is
to
continue
this
and
then
direct
staff
to
to
work
on
that
language
in
itself
and
bring
it
back
so
that
we
may
hear
it
again.
So,
commissioner,
cookdown
you
have
some
thoughts.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
My
thought
is
to
not
push
this
forward
and
and
with
a
strong
recommendation.
I
think
there's
been
enough
concern
from
a
lot
of
different
commissioners
here
that
I
think
we
at
least
speaking
for
myself,
I'd
like
I'd
like
to
see
it
again.
Instead
of
leaving
it
to
go
forward.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think,
along
the
lines
of
what
commissioner
cookson
said,
I
would
would
prefer
not
to
move
the
iup
piece
of
it
and
staff
can
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
here
and
looking
at
the
materials.
F
It
does
appear
that
the
definitions
and
those
types
of
changes
appear
in
chapter
19,
but
that
the
new
use
and
the
new
parameters
around
pandemic.
How
does
it
appear
in
chapter
21.,
so
I
don't
have
to
just
put
thumbtack
on
that
now.
But
if
that
is
true,
if
that
assessment
is
accurate,
I
I
could
see
us
at
least
I
could
see
me
advancing
chapter
19
tonight
and
continuing
chapter
21.
F
date
certain
to
perhaps
our
next.
If
that
makes
sense
for
people.
I
It's
not
your
chair
members
of
the
planning
commission.
We
we
absolutely
can
separate
the
definitions
that
have
been
proposed
to
you
this
evening
and
move
those
forward
and
then
hold
the
the
temporary
pandemic
response
facility
and
associate
iup
from
from
consideration
by
the
city
council.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Goldsman.
D
Just
wanted
to
ask
when
is
or
if
we
continue
this
item.
When
is
the
next
meeting
that
we
would
see
this
and
then
what
would
the
impact
be
to
the
city
council
meetings
just
looking
from
a
timeline
perspective?
How
that
continuation
would
be
impacting.
B
Sure,
mr
chairman,
your
next
planning
commission
meeting
is
november
19th.
If
it
were
to
track
to
november
19th,
it
could
potentially
be
december
7th
to
the
culture.
The
earliest
date.
A
All
right
all
right
do
we,
I
guess,
there's
one
way
to
think
about
or
think
about
this
moving
forward.
So
maybe
we
could
get
a
verbal
on
if
there's
a
support
for
commissioner
roman
separating
the
two
chapters,
his
proposal,
thoughts
from
commissioners.
D
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
guess
I'd
be
more
of
a
favor
of
keeping
them
together,
just
from
a
logistical
perspective
and
having
an
understanding
of
one
and
how
it
relates
to
the
other.
I
also
look
at
the
chapter
19
and
if
we
were
separating
it
from
21,
does
it
really
make
a
big
change
other
than
cleaning
up
some
of
the
definitions,
so
I've
been
more
of
a
favor
of
keeping
them
together.
The
time
frame
that
mr
mark
regard
laid
out
of
the
1957
seems
appropriate
and
I'm
afraid
to
separate
them
out.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner
goldsmith
commissioner
cook
done,
looks
like
you're
agreeing
with
that.
Yes,
that's
true
all
right!
Well
at
this
point,
then
I
would
look
for
a
recommendation
from
one
of
the
planning
commission
members
to
make
a
motion.
F
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
to
continue
the
public
hearing
for
the
ordinance
for
temporary
pandemic
housing.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
goldsman.
D
A
A
Cookton
hi
and
I
for
myself
all
right
just
to
clarify
mr
marker
guard:
do
we
have
enough
information
to
guide
staff
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
clear
on
this.
B
A
So
I
just
speak
to
adding
additional
districts,
and
I
think
with
the
idea
that,
while
there
is
an
immediate
need
in
those
districts
that
not
all
have
to
be
re-guided
to
that
rm50.
A
Okay,
seeing
nods
looks
like
we're
in
alignment
on
that
and
so
that
again,
that
item
will
be
continued
until
the
november
19th
regular
meeting,
and
that
concludes
the
november
5th
2020
planning
commission
meeting.
Thank
you.