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From YouTube: April 23 Bloomington Planning Commission Meeting
Description
Live Bloomington Minnesota Planning Commission Meeting
A
To
April
23rd
2020
Planning
Commission
meeting
the
Planning
Commission
is
made
up
of
seven
volunteer
residents
appointed
by
the
City
Council
most
items.
We
make
recommendations
to
council.
However,
some
items
we
have
final
decision-making
authority
subject
to
an
appeal
to
the
City
Council
for
each
item,
we'll
have
a
staff
report
a
chance
for
the
applicant
to
speak
and
then
time
for
public
comment.
We
start
with
the
pledge.
B
We
have
four
people
physically
present,
three
behind
the
dais
and
one
in
the
control
room
tonight.
So
we're
very
well
spaced.
City
Hall
is
closed.
So
that's
why
we're
having
them
the
meeting
remote
so
joining
us
remotely
are
the
remainder
of
the
planning
commissioners,
six,
six
to
the
seven
commissioners,
one
being
present:
several
staff
members,
the
applicants
and
then
members
of
the
public
as
well.
If.
C
B
B
However,
it
appears
our
email
is
not
working
this
evening.
So
do
not
use
the
email
address,
just
use
the
phone
number
and
then
we
will
have
that
number
scrolling
across
the
screen
throughout
the
whole
meeting.
That's
if
you're
watching
live
if
you're,
watching
a
replay
that
will
not
be
scrolling
or
I
am
told,
it
also
does
not
work
on
YouTube
live,
but
it
would
on
the
cable
system.
So
you'll
see
that
number
there,
but
again
it
is
9
5,
2,
5,
6,
3,
8,
9,
2,
6
and
then
final
note.
B
A
D
B
D
B
B
Yeah
I'm
gonna
step
in
and
just
walk
through
the
presentation,
so
the
location
for
this
application
is
80/50
Morgan
Circle.
It
is
the
Morgan
Circle
shops,
which
is
just
south
of
American
Boulevard
in
your
Morgan
Circle
right
beside
an
American
development.
It's
a
multi-tenant
strip
center
and
the
conditional
use
permit
application
tonight
would
occupy
a
5,800
square
foot
tenant
space
roughly
in
the
middle
of
the
center,
showing
up
here
in
yellow.
B
This
is
a
floor
plan
of
the
proposed
use.
Basically,
this
is
going
to
be
a
retail
facility
where
they
would
sell
games
and
gaming
equipment
and
they
would
have
a
small
portion
of
the
floor
area
that
would
be
open
for
gaming
tournaments
or
to
try
out
games
that
are
being
sold
in
the
shop
so
with
the
gaming
tournaments.
That
raises
the
indoor,
recreation
and
entertainment
use
issue,
which
is
a
conditional
use,
retail
as
a
permitted
use.
B
So
the
need
for
the
conditional
use
permit
is
solely
a
function
of
the
gaming
tournaments
and
approximately
12%
of
the
floor
area
would
be
dedicated,
both
the
game,
testing
and
tournaments
couple.
Other
things
of
note,
the
number
of
seats
are
limited
and
I
believe
that
number
is
36
getting
the
head
nod,
that's
true,
prepackaged
food
and
beverages
would
be
available.
B
A
G
H
B
D
I
A
I
G
I
For
the
most
part,
no
those
tables
are
fixed
tables,
so
they're
concrete
top.
They
have
custom
technology
built
into
them,
so
those
aren't
going
to
be
moved.
I'm
assuming
they'll
be
open
for
customers
to
use
if
they
want
to
try
out
a
game-
or
you
know,
hang
out
maybe
play
a
game
with
another
person.
So.
A
H
I
I
They
think
they're
they're
gonna
separate
themselves
from
some
of
those
other
spaces
with
a
little
bit
higher
end
finish.
It
is,
and
a
little
more
upscale
and
some
of
the
amenity
offerings
like
prepackaged
food,
and
you
know
just
having
kind
of
a
sort
of
a
lounging,
vibe
versus
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
other
places
are
more
just
like
a
cheap
carpet
and
card
tables.
So
they
have
the
custom
technology
and
they're
just
trying
to
they
think
there's
a
there's
room
in
the
market
or
a
little
bit
more
of
an
upscale
setting.
I
So
they're,
okay
with
36
seats,
they
want
to
see
if,
if
this
is
going
to
take
hold
and
the
tournaments
would
be
on
a
regular
basis
like
a
weekly
bowling
night
or
something,
and
if
they
can
gain
enough
popularity,
then
they
in
it
to
the
point
where
they
would
maybe
need
to
expand.
Then
they
want
to
go
back
to
this.
They
intend
on
going
back
to
this,
to
you
guys
and
and
expanding
that
limit,
but
it's
a
they're
testing
it
out
right
now
and
36
is
adequate
for
the
start.
Thank.
A
J
I
So
they've
got
several
restaurants
in
and
they
want
to
make
sure
that
that
if
they
do
hold
these
these
game
nights
that
they're
not
going
to
have
interfere
with
parking.
So
it's
laid
out
perfectly
for
them
to
have
sort
of
their
VIP
back
there.
So
it
will
be
I,
don't
know
if
it's
called
a
membership
basis
or
not
I
think
they
are
gonna,
try
to
feel
that
out
and
see
if
if
they
could
get
a
portion
of
revenue
from
people
that
won't
come
weekly
and
be
all
over
that
so
yeah.
This
answer
your
question.
A
B
A
A
H
You,
madam
chair
I,
don't
have
any
specific
concerns
with
this
conditional
use.
Permit
I
do
question
the
balance
between
occasional
and
how
much
that
is
core
to
their
business.
I,
don't
know
that
we
have
a
way
to
get
a
handle
on
that.
At
this
point,
I
also
wonder
about
the
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
way
to
be
attentive
to
know
my
own
family.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Much
like
commissioner
Rome
and
I
think
this
is
actually
I'm
glad
to
see
the
the
location
being
used,
bringing
additional
people
into
the
neighborhood
that
we're
hoping
to
be
a
nice
pedestrian,
family-friendly
area.
So
gaming
and
the
associated
recreational
facility
with
this
I
think,
will
be
a
benefit
to
the
neighborhood.
H
You,
madam
chair
everyone's
at
the
wrong
page
there
in
case
P
L
to
0
to
0-5
or
having
been
able
to
make
the
required
findings.
I
move
to
adopt
a
resolution
approving
a
conditional
use,
permit,
render
recreation
and
entertainment
use
associated
says
it
associated
with
a
retail
store
within
an
existing
multi-tenant
shopping
center.
Commissioner.
A
B
E
Measure,
madam
sure,
hi
Nick
Johnson
planner,
here
the
Bank
of
America
application.
There
was
one
prior
continuance
on
this
item,
but
final
development
plans
for
a
new
Bank
at
611
West,
98th
Street.
They
are
requesting
further
continuance
out
to
the
May
21st
Planning
Commission
meeting
we've
gotten
some
updated
building
elevations
from
them,
so
we're
confident
that
they
can
meet
that
date
and
they
submitted
a
letter
to
the
city.
Also
extending
the
agency
action
timeline.
E
D
B
A
B
A
J
A
E
A
E
Okay,
I
can't
see
it
there
we
go
okay!
Thank
you
for
everyone's
patience
here
tonight.
We're
obviously
working
through
some
virtual
meeting
blues
here
as
we're
going
along,
but
hopefully
this
goes
a
little
bit
smoother.
So
the
applications
before
you
this
evening,
there's
three
applications
submitted
by
Walzer
Toyota
there
at
4401,
American,
Boulevard
I,
will
show
the
subject
property,
but
they're
submitted
a
rezoning
request.
A
preliminary
and
final
development
plans,
those.
E
E
So
the
subject
property
is
just
to
the
east
of
France,
Avenue
and
south
of
494,
the
surrounding
land
uses.
You
have
Joe,
sensors,
Bar
and
Grill
to
the
east.
You
have
an
office
building
to
the
west.
To
the
southwest.
Is
the
fountain
lake
condominiums
to
the
south
of
this
property
actually
encompass
within
the
property?
Is
a
portion
of
Wanda
Miller
pond,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
and
then
to
the
south
of
their
southern
boundary?
Is
a
single-family
residential
neighborhood,
a
cul-de-sac,
Johnson
circle?
E
This
is
the
approximate
location
of
where
they
want
to
construct
this
three-story
parking
ramp
with
roof
parking.
So
it's
just
to
the
south
of
the
existing
dealership
building
and
it's
part
of
a
multi-phase
project.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
as
well.
First,
just
some
context,
setting
there's
just
a
few
photos
we
took
earlier
today:
that's
the
South
building
elevation
of
the
existing
dealership
building.
So
this
is
you're
looking
at
where
the
parking
ramp
would
occupy.
E
Should
this
plan
be
approved
and
a
permit
issued
and
constructed
so
the
ramp
will,
but
up
pretty
close
to
the
existing
building.
You
see
some
on
the
more
western
side.
There
you
see
some
loading
docks.
The
ramp
would
still
allow
access
to
that
on
the
picture
of
the
right.
That's
looking
more
due
north,
my
peels
are
kind
of
on
the
back
end
of
the
curb
of
their
parking
lot
that
you
saw
in
the
previous
slide.
E
So
that's
kind
of
the
the
southern
extent
of
where
they're
parking
lot
currently
extends
the
photo
on
the
left
is
the
existing
front
elevation
of
the
the
dealership,
so
the
proposed
three-story
parking
ramp
would
be
behind
this
building.
This
is
looking
due
south
from
American
Boulevard.
The
photo
on
the
right
is
the
existing
stormwater
pond
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site.
You
also
see
a
berm
that
runs
along
the
full
extent
of
the
property
from
east
to
west.
It's
about
a
six
foot,
berm
there's.
E
So
in
terms
of
a
little
bit
of
background,
some
of
you
are
on
the
Planning
Commission
in
2016
when
they
got
their
previous
plan
approved.
Most
of
you
were
not,
but
just
by
way
of
background,
they
previously
got
a
preliminary
development
plan
and
final
development
plan
and
conditional
use
permit
approved
for
a
new
dealership
building
here
at
Walzer
Toyota.
The
previous
plan
was
to
be
constructed
in
one
phase,
as
opposed
to
a
multi-phase
project
on
the
left.
You
can
see
some
building
elevations
of
that
proposed
building.
E
The
structure
itself
was
five
stories:
the
five
story
parking
ramp
and
the
south
half
with
a
two-story
dealership
building
attached.
It
was
72
feet
in
height,
you
see
the
surface
parking
around
the
surrounding
the
site
and
the
back
was
going
to
be
a
surface
parking
for
vehicles
awaiting
repair
and
so
in
talking
to
the
architect.
I
believe
that
architect
is
on
the
lines.
He
certainly
could
speak
to
this.
If
there's
questions
but
I
got
some
questions
of
you
know.
Why
didn't
this
plan
go
forward
back
from
2016?
E
So
that's,
ultimately
why
that
plant
did
not
go
forward
so
going
from
the
2016
approval
to
now.
What
is
currently
proposed.
I
want
to
be
clear
that
this
specific
prove
all
being
sought
by
Walzer
Toyota
tonight
only
applies
to
this
phase.
One
parking
ramp
south
of
the
building
if
they
were
to
execute
any
part,
any
other
phases
of
the
plan
I'm
about
to
describe.
They
would
need
to
come
back
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
City
Council
in
order
to
get
approvals
for
those
subsequent
phases.
E
But
what
we
can
show
you
here
this
was
in
their
narrative
as
well
as
they
came
to
development
review
committee
here
at
the
city
to
get
review
on
the
full
scale
of
their
future
development
plans.
And
what
you're
seeing
here
is
a
three-phase
process
by
which
phase
one
of
the
ramp,
which
is
what
you're
considering
this
evening,
is
constructed
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site.
E
If
they
were
to
construct
the
ramp
in
the
southwest
corner,
following
that,
they
would
construct
a
new
dealership
building.
The
version
that
we
saw
at
DRC
was
91
thousand
square
feet.
It
was
a
two-story
two-story
structure.
They
would
construct
that
on
the
east
side
and
then
they
would
demo
the
existing
dealership
and
they
would
construct
an
additional
parking
ramp.
That
would
be
a
Phase
two
that
would
mirror
what
you're
looking
at
this
evening
on
the
north
side,
so
it
effectively
doubled
the
size
of
the
ramp.
E
You
know,
depending
on
market
conditions,
on
the
left,
you
just
see
some
building
elevations
we're
going
to
talk
about
materials
of
the
ramp
a
little
bit
on
how
it
relates
to
code,
but
the
Toyota
corporate
theme
and
colors
are
white
and
red.
You
can
see
what
the
version
that
they
brought
to
DRC
looks
like
metal
panels
on
the
North
elevation
and
white
precast
concrete
again
you're,
not
taking
action
on
that
this
evening,
but
it
just
sets
a
little
bit
of
context
in
terms
of
why
this
project
is
before
you
this
evening.
E
So
getting
into
the
rezoning
action,
they
are
including
a
request
to
rezone
from
the
CSO
five
base.
Zoning
district
to
the
c1
zoning
district
I
will
note
that
the
southern
150
feet
of
the
site,
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
unique
situation
and
that
this
site
has
split
zoning.
The
southern,
the
southern
150
feet
is
zoned
r1
and
that
I
think
was
done
in
order
to
provide
some
additional
buffer
in
that
area.
That
is
currently
one
to
Miller,
pond
and
kind
of
natural.
E
But
in
terms
of
why
to
go
to
the
c1,
the
c1
is
the
modern
zoning
district
in
chapter
21
that
is,
was
developed
and
designed
specifically
for
motor
vehicle
sales.
The
list
of
uses
in
these
two
districts
is
fairly
similar,
but
motor
vehicle
sales
is
a
conditional
use
in
the
CSO
five
district,
whereas
it
is
a
permitted
use
in
the
c1
district.
So
the
reason
that
they
obtained
a
conditional
use
permit
in
2016
is
that
they
were
not
proposing
to
rezone
the
site
at
this.
E
At
that
time
now
they
are
proposing
to
rezone
the
site,
which
would
make
the
Cu
P
no
longer
necessary.
Should
the
rezoning
be
recommended
for
approval,
so
there's
only
three
other
sites
in
the
city
that
are
zoned
c1,
they
are
all
motor
vehicle
sales
facilities.
The
site
is
guided
regional,
commercial
and
our
comprehensive
plan,
so
that
is
an
appropriate
zoning
district.
For
that
guidance
and
as
I
said,
this,
zoning
district
was
designed
specifically
for
this
use,
get
into
the
site
plan
itself.
E
So
I've
got
kind
of
a
blown-up
area
of
the
south
west
corner
of
the
site
on
the
right
part
of
the
slide,
the
full
site
on
the
left
part
of
the
slide.
So
you
can
see
how
in
close
proximity,
the
parking
ramp
is
to
the
the
existing
facility.
You'll
notice
that
there's
two
points
of
entry
really
with
this
site
plan,
one
is
being
on
the
northeast
corner
of
the
ramp.
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
cursor
and
then
down
here
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
ramp.
E
E
Don't
remember
sorry,
okay,
get
into
the
design
of
the
ramp.
The
architectural
plans
did
include
these
elevations
there's
a
couple
things
I
want
to
raise
here
with
the
with
these
renderings,
as
well
as
the
elevations
on
the
next
slide.
They
are
proposing
to
construct
the
ramp
out
of
white
intricately,
colored
precast,
concrete,
so
concrete
columns
and
spandrels.
It's
really
common
for
parking
ramps.
E
This
is
the
most
common
material
we
see
parking
ramps
being
constructed
out
of
and
faced
with
so
one
there
are
two
deviations
associated
with
this
planned
development
of
note
and
they
both
relate
to
the
architectural
design
of
the
ramp.
First
of
all,
parking
structures
in
our
code
are
required
to
have
materials
and
design
that
is
compatible
with
surrounding
buildings.
Now
the
existing
dealership
is
constructed
out
of
brick,
it's
red
and
brown
in
color.
E
So,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
that's
not
compatible,
so
they
are
requesting
a
deviation
and
the
intent
of
the
deviation
or
what
the
deviation
is
informed
by
is
the
future
build-out
of
the
future
dealership
building
again
the
corporate
colors
of
Toyota
being
white
and
red.
The
design
of
the
parking
ramp
is
is
designed
to
match
the
future
development.
Not
the
existing
staff
is
supporting
this
deviation.
One
of
the
reasons.
E
Why
is
that,
given
the
location
of
the
ramp,
it's
actually
tucked
back
behind
the
building,
so
only
the
upper
levels
of
the
ramp
are
clearly
visible
from
the
due
north
in
front
of
the
building,
as
I
showed
in
that
elevate,
you
will
be
able
to
see
the
ramp
if
you're
traveling
west,
on
American
Boulevard
farther
east
of
the
site.
No
doubt
about
that,
but
given
the
context
surrounding
the
future
development
that
walls
are
intends
to
build,
we
think
this
is
a
deviation
that
makes
sense.
E
The
second
deviation
that
relates
to
materials
on
out
of
the
two
deviations
are
requesting
relates
to
the
use
of
those
cable
railings
on
the
north
building
elevation.
So
the
reason
that
they
are
proposing
cable,
railings,
the
city
code
actually
has
a
requirement
that
ramps
be
designed
to
block
headlights
so
that
they
don't
trespass
on
other
properties.
So,
typically,
what
you
see
is
just
a
three-foot
concrete
wall
in
order
to
block
those
headlights.
E
What
they're
proposing
is
cable,
railings
and
the
reason
being
with
the
future
expansion
of
the
ramp
to
the
north
again
doubling
of
the
ramp.
If
they
constructed
concrete
walls,
they
would
literally
have
to
saw
cut
those
out
of
there
to
match
the
other
portions
of
the
ramp.
So
that's
the
reason
for
the
request,
similar
to
the
issue
with
the
compatibility,
the
the
majority
of
the
ramp
is
hidden
behind
the
existing
dealership
and
given
the
future
expansion.
This
just
seems
to
make
sense
to
staff.
E
So
we
are
supportive
of
that
deviation
as
well
in
terms
of
the
other
building
of
elevations
that
were
included
in
the
included
in
the
architectural
plans.
Just
one
thing
I
want
to
highlight
here
is
that
the
ground
level
of
the
ramp
is
open
air
on
the
west
and
south
elevation,
and
not
meeting
that
requirement
to
block
headlights.
So
staff
has
included
a
condition
of
approval
that
the
ramp
be
designed
in
those
areas
that
are
circled
in
red
on
the
slide
before
you
that
those
areas
also
be
designed
to
block
headlights.
E
That's
important,
especially
given
the
sensitivity
that
there
are
residential
uses
to
the
south
of
this
site
and
to
the
west,
and
so,
if
headlights
do
peer
out
of
those
ground-level,
those
will
also
cause
light
trespass,
so
they
have
to
block
headlights
in
those
areas
as
well.
So
we
are
recommending
a
condition
that
relates
to
that
here's,
the
floorplan
for
the
ramp.
E
Walzer
does
not
envision
customer
parking
in
these
areas.
Customer
parking
would
be
addressed
in
other
surface
parking
lots
at
the
dealership,
but
they
are
planning
to
provide
employee
parking
on
the
roof
level.
Otherwise,
what
they've
communicated
to
us
is
that
the
majority
of
the
ramp
is
for
inventory.
E
Okay,
I
get
into
the
landscape
plan.
Just
a
few
brief
points
here
they
are
meeting
the
amount
of
landscape
material
that
the
city
code
would
require,
and
in
this
case
that's
based
on
the
site.
Disturbance,
as
opposed
to
the
full
site.
Full
site
is
typically
only
triggered
when
there's
an
expansion
of
four
season
floor
area,
and
this
is
just
a
parking
ramp.
So
it's
just
based
on
the
site.
Disturbance.
I
would
note
that
we
did
get
a
letter,
some
public
correspondence
from
the
owner
to
the
west,
whose
the
condo
president
of
fountain
Lake
condos.
E
D
E
The
neighboring
property
owner
to
add
some
material
along
that
west
side.
Oh
one,
other
quick
point
code
does
require
that
the
entrances
and
exits
of
parking
structures
when
visible
to
residential
uses
be
screened.
So
you
do
see
some
shrubs
there
at
the
southeast
southeast
entrance
and
again
that
they
don't
shouldn't,
have
a
self
north-south
orientation
as
they're
entering
the
ramp,
but
would
be
as
they're
turning
into
the
ramp.
So
just
to
point
that
out
a
stormwater
management.
E
E
What
they're
proposing
to
build
is
a
new
infiltration
Basin
to
the
south
of
the
pond
or
I'm
sorry,
the
south
of
the
parking
ramp,
and
what
they're
required
to
do
by
the
city
rules
and
by
the
watershed
district
rules
is
to
treat
for
volume,
quality
and
rate
for
the
footprint
of
the
ramp.
So
that's
what's
really
driving
the
type
and
size
of
stormwater
facilities
that
they
have
to
provide
for
this
project.
Now,
prior
to
this
project
coming
online,
the
dealership
was
built
in
2000.
There
was
an
expansion
in
2007.
E
At
that
time,
this
site
was
subject
to
different
rules
than
exists
today,
so
there
are
some
stormwater
facilities
hit
more
historic
or
existing
that
do
discharge
Wanda,
Miller
pond,
which
are
currently
untreated.
They
do
have
that
other
stormwater
pond
in
the
southeast
corner,
but
just
to
note
that
that
does
exist
now
there
actually
is
a
pipe
that
goes
underneath.
E
The
ramp
that
currently
discharges
its
staff's
expectation
that,
as
the
future
development
phases,
come
online,
that
a
lot
of
those
issues
would
be
addressed
because
you'll
be
dealing
with
a
higher
amount
of
disturbance
that
has
to
be
treated
or
the
large
portion
of
the
site
that
has
to
be
treated
for
rate,
quality
and
volume.
So
just
a
point
about
that,
9
Mile,
Creek,
watershed
district
permit
is
required
in
this
case,
so
they
have
to
sign
off
on
the
design
of
these
stormwater
facilities
as
well.
E
The
city
and
I'm
out
Creek
both
require
maintenance
agreements
on
these
facilities,
as
well
as
looking
at
existing
facilities
on
site.
So
there
was
some
feedback
from
some
of
the
neighbors
that
one
of
the
stormwater
ponds
is
currently
may
have
some
refuse
or
other
material
in
it.
That
is
not
good
for
the
stormwater
pond.
Just
to
note
that,
as
these
maintenance
agreements
that
are
adopted
and
current
date,
they
do
look
at
the
existing
facilities
as
well.
So
just
to
make
a
few
points
there
next
slide
lighting
plan.
E
I
know
we
typically
don't
throw
these
things,
throw
the
lighting
plans
at
you
guys,
but
there
is
some
again
with
the
surrounding
residential
uses.
There's
some
sensitivity
here
just
to
make
a
few
points.
This
is
the
photometric
plan
of
the
roof.
It's
actually
the
only
photo
metrics
that
they
provided
in
their
lighting
plan
thus
far,
but
just
want
to
highlight
the
pole,
Heights
in
the
central
and
northern
portion
of
the
ramp
they're,
looking
at
12-foot
mounting
Heights
and
then
at
the
southern
wall.
E
They're,
looking
at
a
mounting
height
of
8
feet
under
code,
they'd
actually
be
allowed
to
mount
lights
at
33
feet
in
height.
So
this
is
the
lowest
I'm
sure
Lawndale
could
come
up
with
other
situations,
but
this
is
the
lowest
I've,
seen
on
mounting
Heights
of
Lights
in
a
commercial
situation
or
commercial
setting.
So
just
to
note
that
mounting
height
another
aspect-
and
this
applies
both
to
the
roof
lighting
as
well
as
the
interior,
the
ramp.
E
We
don't
accept
any
fixtures
that
are
not
90
degree
cut
out
fixtures,
so
you
can't
have
a
drop-down
lens
or
an
exposed
source.
These
are
all
90
degree,
cut
off,
led
type
lights
that
are
down
cast
and
throw
light
in
a
very
focused
area.
So,
just
to
note
that
point,
there
are
some
areas
that
currently
don't
meet
code.
They
will
have
to
submit
lighting
plans
on
the
remainder
of
the
ramp.
For
example,
the
entrance
and
exit
of
the
ramp
has
to
meet
a
certain
light
level
just
for
safety,
but
we
understand
it's.
E
A
balance
here
there
is
surrounding
residential
uses.
Code
does
require
that
the
lighting
be
extinguished
within
one
hour
of
business
closed.
So
walls
are
closed
at
9:00
p.m.
so
theoretically,
they
would
have
to
have
all
their
lights
off
by
10:00
p.m.
we
would
encourage
them
to
look
at
motion
sensors,
although
sometimes
that
can
be
if
flights
are
going
on
and
off
repeatedly.
E
Sometimes
that
can
be
more
of
an
annoyance
as
well,
so
just
think
about
being
smart,
think
about
being
respectful,
Walser's
committed
to
that
in
all
my
conversations
with
them
so
yeah,
that's
an
overview
of
the
lighting.
A
couple
operational
conditions
and
considerations
that
relate
specifically
to
vehicle
sales
facilities
code
does
have
a
specific
section
on
these
facilities
in
these
uses.
Just
a
note,
loading
and
unloading
is
technically
not
allowed
on-site
between
8
p.m.
and
7
a.m.
when
these
facilities
are
close
to
residential
uses.
E
We
did
have
one
letter
or
correspondence
that
there
may
have
been
some
violations
of
that
in
the
past,
but
just
for
walls,
our
sake
and
for
the
neighbor's
sake,
the
what
we
interpret
loading
and
loading
to
be
is
taking
vehicles
on
site
and
delivering
them
or
picking
up
vehicles
to
take
off
site.
So
it's
not
moving
vehicles
around
internal
to
the
site.
It's
actually
physically
moving
vehicles
on
a
truck
or
having
them
delivered,
so
just
to
be
clear
about
that,
and
we
do
recommend
a
condition
that
relates
to
that
related
to
noise.
E
The
city
code
does
prohibit
public
address
or
loudspeaker
systems
at
these
facilities,
so
they
can't
have
any
of
that
in
the
ramp.
In
addition,
it
also
prohibits
the
use
of
car
alarms
or
vehicle
location
devices
that
also
make
noise
I
know
sometimes
that
occurs.
City
Code
prohibits
that
I'm
just
an
overview
of
the
correspondence
we've
received
on
this
item.
We
did
get
five
letters
and
emails
only
two
of
which
were
included
in
your
packet.
Three
of
them
were
received
after
publication
of
the
packet.
E
There
was
some
general
opposition
to
the
parking
structure
that
was
raised
as
I
mentioned.
Fountain
lake
has
made
a
request
for
some
additional
trees
along
the
western
building
elevation
to
kind
of
break
up
that
mass
and
then
other
concerns
of
neighbors
and
interested
parties
included.
Stormwater
management
operations,
lighting
noise,
snow
removal
and
just
general
property
maintenance,
so
I
think
I
touched
on
most
of
those
things
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
might
come
up.
The
the
project
architect
might
have
more
information
as
well.
E
I'm
sure,
thanks
for
raising
that
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
bring
that
up
where
things
stand
with
the
future
phases.
I'll,
let
the
architect
speak
to
it
as
well,
but
the
the
situation
is
that
they
were.
They
had
a
contract
for
the
precast
concrete
for
the
ramp,
so
they
were
in
a
bit
of
a
hurry
to
get
this
first
phase
going
now
that
was
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
have
occurred
and
some
of
the
market
conditions
associated
with
that.
E
But
where
things
stand
with
future
phases,
is
that
their
zoning
submit
Elizabeta
ng
for
approval
from
national
Toyota,
as
well
as
working
on
securing
financing
for
those
future
phases
but
prior
to
the
pandemic,
as
well
as
as
recent.
In
my
conversations
with
them,
they
still
plan
to
make
us
the
middle.
This
fall
for
the
future
phases
and
then,
depending
on
securing
financing,
it
would
be
likely
getting
into
construction
next
year.
So
that's
certainly,
if
any
that's
incorrect,
their
architect
and
correct
me
on
that.
But
that's
the
conversations
that
I've
had.
E
Madam
chair
again
Nick
Johnson
planning
they
they
will
the
pond
that
is
shown
on
the
screen.
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
the
slides
anymore,
but
the
pond
that
they
are
planning
as
part
of
this
project
only
relates
to
the
phase
1
parking
ramp.
So
it
is
designed
specifically
to
just
treat
rate
volume
and
Quanah
or
rate
volume
and
quality
just
for
the
footprint
of
the
ramp
and
that's
how
the
city
stormwater
rules,
work
and
the
9
Mile
Creek,
and
so
when
they
go
to
redevelop
the
full
portion
of
the
site.
E
G
G
Based
on
how
it
looks
in
the
plans
it
looks
like
it
would
be,
covering
those
existing
stalls
that
exist
on
that
south
side
on
the
surface
parking
lot,
but
on
the
rendering
it
looks
more
like
there
would
be
considerable
distance
between
that
and
the
berm
that
the
berm
on
that
south
side
can
you
is
there?
Is
there
an
image
that
can
better
show
where
that
sits
in
relationship
to
where
the
stalls
are
currently
on
the
site?.
E
Yeah,
madam
chair
Commissioner,
Albrecht,
I,
hope
I
am
understanding
your
question
correctly,
but
there
there
was
an
indication
from
one
of
the
comment
or
one
of
the
letters
we
got
that
there
was
a
dr
aisle
along
the
south
side
of
the
ramp.
That's
not
the
case.
The
extent
of
the
ramp
goes
all
the
way
to
pretty
much
north/south,
even
with
the
curb
line
to
the
east,
so
it
goes
as
far
south
as
the
curb
line
of
the
existing
condition
east
of
this
area.
E
If
you
actually
go
back
to
an
existing
conditions
plan,
they
have
a
larger
parking
area
that
extends
further
to
the
south,
where
the
pond
will
be
open.
Our
our
slides
are
moving
around
here.
Oh
no
I
don't
have
an
existing
conditions.
Slide
you
go
to
the
aerial
photo.
Am
I
talking
about
the
parking
area
that
you're
asking
about,
though
I
want
to
be
sure
of
that,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
that
there's
double-stacked
parking
in
the
southwest
portion
of
the
site?
Yes,.
E
Commissioner
Albrecht,
that's
correct
the
area
that,
where
that
double-stacked
parking,
where
it
even
extends
a
little
further
south,
that's
where
they're
planning
that
pond,
so
that
the
the
structure
moves
a
little
bit
moves
the
curb
line
to
the
north.
Okay,
it's
not
a
far
distance,
but
it
moves
the
curb
line
to
the
north
that
helps.
H
You,
madam
chair,
mrs.
Johnson
I,
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
you.
The
first
one
of
the
very
fundamental
level
resilience
property.
You
mentioned
from
C
0
v,
2
C,
1,
C,
s0,
5,
SC
1
moves
this
from
a
conditional
use
to
a
permitted
use.
Is
there
anything
in
doing
that
that
releases
the
remainder
of
the
project
from
any
specific
oversight
that
this
body
or
the
council
would
have
now.
E
Madam
chair
Commissioner
Ruhlman
any
future
development
changes
that
they
make
is
going
to
be
subject
to
a
preliminary
and
final
development
plan
review
so
typically
with
a
conditional
use
permit.
What
we're
looking
at
is
life
safety,
welfare
type
issues
in
terms
of
you
know,
operational
conditions
or
things
that
you
know
make
the
site.
They
reduce
the
negative
impacts
of
a
use
because
of
the
you
know,
in
conjunction
of
moving
a
lot
of
uses
from
conditional
permitted
uses.
E
So
as
they
come
forward
with
new
development
proposals
in
the
future,
as
well
as
just
their
day-to-day
operations,
they
have
to
abide
by
those
city
code
requirements
in
chapter
21
and
so
I
think
that
alleviates
some
of
the
upsides
of
the
conditional
use
permit
process
that
you
would
have
had
previously
getting
those
requirements
directly
in
city
code.
But.
E
H
H
One
of
the
things
we
are
being
asked
to
do
is
to
consider
the
temporary
cable
cable
railing,
this
preliminary,
rendering
for
obvious
reasons
where
they
would
want
to
be
able
to
showcase
their
their
vehicles
imply
some
sort
of
an
open-sided
ramp,
and
my
question
is:
if
we
grant
the
the
ability
to
have
a
cable
barrier
in
phase
one
is
there?
Is
there
any
sort
of
entitlement
to
carry
over
to
that
today?
Two
things
three
I'm.
A
E
Madam
chair
Commissioner
Roman,
no,
there
would
not
be
in
many
cases.
We
encourage
it
because
it
keeps
the
sight
darker
for
longer
and
it
also
saves
the
owner
quite
a
bit
of
money
on
energy
cost,
but
understanding
that
you
know
in
some
cases
for
security
purposes.
Some
owners
like
to
have
light
lights
on
until
they're
closed,
but
there
would
be
no
code
that
would
prohibit
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
F
F
E
E
The
first
question,
as
it
related
to
snow
removal
I,
have
had
a
conversation
with
them
about
that
they
will
not
be
dumping
snow
on
their
loading
dock
and
in
to
the
north
and
on
their
existing
facility.
So
they
would
not
be
doing
that
they
would
not
be
dumping
snow
to
the
east
when
there
are
motor
vehicles
inventory
or
awaiting
service
or
otherwise
below
to
the
east
side.
If
there
was
currently
not
vehicles,
there
endure
in
winter
conditions,
in
other
words,
if
they
planned
or
phased
it,
so
they
could
dump
snow
to
the
east.
E
That
would
be
beneficial
because
they
can
plow
it
on
the
surface
level,
otherwise
they
will
also
dump
snow
on
the
west
and
south
sides.
However,
just
depending
on
how
heavy
the
snowfalls
are
during
a
winter
season,
those
areas
are
gonna
have
limited
capacity.
So
if
you
dumped
a
full
season
of
snow
to
the
south
or
to
the
west,
you
kind
of
run
out
of
storage
space
that
was
maintained
and
contained
within
their
property.
So
they've
said
they're
not
ruling
anything
out
at
this
point,
except
for
the
north,
but
that's
been
my
conversation
with
them.
F
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
maybe
a
follow
up
with
mr.
Johnson
really
about
the
water
treatment
for
the
facility,
so
I'm
to
understand
that
the
water,
the
only
water
treatment
that's
required,
is
for
the
physical
development
that
is
taking
place
at
the
current
time
phase
one.
It's
not
related
to
the
entire
properties
that
correct
yeah.
E
J
You,
madam
chair,
another
question,
please
mr.
Johnson.
My
second
question
is
really
has
to
do
with
the
the
finishes
on
the
facility
and
in
part
I
guess,
the
the
color
that
we
talked
about
and
part
of
the
deviation
was
it
has
to
be
compatible
and
I.
Think
your
words
were
with
other
buildings
on
the
site.
Is
there
any
consideration
for
this
being
next
to
essentially
a
natural
area?
Is
that
is
that
anywhere
in
the
coders?
It's
strictly
written
two
buildings
on
the
facility
or
on
that
on
the
property
yeah.
E
Madam
chair
Commissioner
Solberg,
you
know
the
the
code
standard
actually
says
surrounding
buildings.
It
doesn't
even
limit
it
to
the
site.
So
compatible
is
not
my
favorite
word
in
any
zoning
code.
Just
because
it's
you
know
a
little
bit
subjective
to
a
certain
extent,
but
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't,
encourage
you
know:
blending
in
the
environment
or
those
types
of
considerations
which
I
think
you're
inferring,
it
just
says,
has
to
be
compatible
with
surrounding
buildings.
So
it's
pretty
general.
A
K
K
Maybe
that's
more
for
the
applicant
but
wondering
if
it's
physically
possible
to
or
impossible
to
connect
that
pipe
to
the
proposed
pond
and
the
second
with
the
building
materials
with
this
type
of
material
and
again,
there's
probably
for
the
architect.
If
we
need
to
add
we
don't
get
the
third
phase
or
second
phase
it's
coming
up
in
within
the
next
several
years.
K
Is
their
ability
to
add,
maybe
brook
linear
or
something
to
make
it
more
compatible
to
the
existing
buildings
that
were
looking
to
three
years
out,
we're
still
not
seeing
seeing
any
new
conditions,
maybe
that
Todd
were
in
a
northeast
corner,
just
something
to
help
blend.
It
in
if
we
do
not
get
a
future
phases.
E
Madam
chair
I'll
leave
the
this
is
Nick
Johnson
again
I'll
leave
the
second
question
to
the
architect,
if
you
don't
mind,
but
the
first
question
just
and
I
encourage
the
walls.
Our
engineer
to
weigh
in
on
this
as
well,
but
I'll
just
speak
for
the
city,
side
and
I
know.
Brian
Hansen
is
on
line
two
in
case.
He
needs
to
correct
me
or
expound,
but
what
I
would
say
to
that
is
that
the
city
has
brought
raised
this
pipe.
The
15
inch
pipe
that
you're
identifying
Commissioner
Goodrem.
E
We
have
brought
that
up
to
the
applicant
Brian
Gradle
and
engineering
division
has
raised
that
with
them,
and
the
concern
being
is
future
maintenance
of
that
facility.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
possible
or
impossible
to
can
to
treat
that
the
storm
water
coming
out
of
there.
All
I
can
say
is
that
the
city
has
encouraged
them
to
look
at
doing
something
with
that
pipe
to
trying
to
tie
it
in
or
properly
abandon
it
in
some
way
and
I.
Don't
know
where
that
stands
now,
but
I
know
that
city
has
encouraged
them
to
do
that.
E
G
G
Restriction
or
a
height
requirement
to
that
condition,
is
that
also
going
to
be
applicable?
For
because
it
looks
like
there's
trucks
going
in
as
well,
which
seems
like
they're,
their
headlights
might
be
slightly
higher
than
the
typical
vehicle.
Is
there
any
there
any
height
requirement
that
is
typically
added
to
that
language?.
E
Yeah
thanks
madam
chair
and
Commissioner
Albrecht
I'm,
looking
up
that
provision
now,
but
it'd
be
a
minimum
of
three
high
three
feet
and
height.
It
would
be
concrete
similar
to
the
other
portions
of
the
ramp.
They
they
talked.
You
know
about
the
idea
of
maybe
doing
landscaping
or
something
along
those
lines.
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
supported
because
landscaping
can
you
know
it
can
die,
it
can
not
grow.
It
can
do
other
things,
but
I
think
three
feet
would
be
the
minimum
for
our
expectation,
I'm
checking
the
code.
E
Sure,
I'm
still
trying
to
locate
that
provision,
I,
think
I
mean
I,
know
it's
three
feet.
I
mean
that
brings
up
a
good
point
about
truck
lights.
They
probably
are
a
little
bit
taller.
It
says
parking
structures.
This
is
in
21300
106,
which
is
our
parking
and
loading
section.
It
just
says:
parking
structures
must
be
designed
to
block
the
visibility
of
vehicle
headlights
from
the
exterior.
So
if
that
is
a
drop-off
area
for
larger
trucks,
that's
something
we
would
take
into
consideration.
So
it
does
not
list
a
specific
dimension.
E
B
A
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
one
more
follow-up
for
mr.
Johnson
really
has
to
do
the
site
plan.
I,
don't
believe
there
was
any
screening
a
little.
There
was
a
mention
of
it
on
the
west
side
of
the
property.
Is
that
you
know
I
can't
tell
by
the
drawing.
Is
that
a
drive
aisle
on
the
outside,
or
is
that
embankment
down
to
the
fountain
Lake
condos
yeah.
E
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
Solberg,
that's
not
a
drive
aisle,
it's
it's
gonna,
be
a
landscape
yard,
so
it'll
be
sodded.
There's
some
I
have
a
picture
of
it
that
property
line
and
an
extra
slide
here
if
you'll
bear
with
me,
but
basically
there's
just
a
bunch
of
scrub
kind
of
volunteer
trees.
Oh
there
is
so
this
is
that
Western
property
line,
currently
the
curb
line,
will
kind
of
follow
that
extent
of
their
existing
service
parking
lot.
E
So
there's
a
about
a
20
foot
or
so
landscape
yard
in
there
and
currently
there's
a
lot
of
volunteer
trees
and
kind
of
undergrowth.
So
they
will.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
that's
going
to
get
removed
as
part
of
the
construction
to
go
forward,
so
they
would
just
side
that
area.
There's
not
a
drive
aisle
on
the
west
side
or
south
side
of
the
ramp.
J
E
E
A
C
Oh,
you
can
hear
me
now:
okay,
the
if
I
could
just
briefly
comment
in
kind
of
a
backwards
order.
With
regard
to
the
west
side,
we
have
no
objection
to
adding
lands
being
in
our
yard.
We've
actually,
under
this
plan,
will
increase
that
side
yard
five
feet.
I
believe
there's
a
nominal
15
feet
from
the
curb
the
ramp
will
be
20
feet
from
the
property
line,
the
scrub
trees.
You
see
in
that
exit
that
Nick
was
showing
I
really
most
likely
on
the
condominium
property.
C
We
only
have
15
feet
there
and
it
dives
down
into
a
drainage
Slough
almost
just
past
our
property
line
there,
but
we
certainly
have
no
objection
to
working
with
fountain
wood
to
add
trees
there
and,
as
nick
has,
will
have
to
be
putting
in
more
trees
anyway,
with
the
future
development.
So
I
think
the
condition
will
improve
and
we
will
contact
ya
resident
the
condominium
association
year
and
get
what
trees
on
the
west
side.
With
respect
to
the
screening
for
headlights,
I
would
point
out
that
the
south
side
already
has
a
six
foot
burn.
C
I
bet
our
headlight
I
into
it's
very
expensive.
To
add
a
concrete
wall
we
have
hundred
foot,
be
piling
there,
they'll
take
piles
and
great
being
the
support,
a
wall
we
might
be
able
to
see
if
we
can
have
a
spandrel
added,
but
that's
really,
our
column
started
on
top
of
the
pile
caps
and
we
already
have
a
six-foot
berm
there,
but
with
respect
to
the
West
I,
we
would
do
something,
but
with
respect
to
truck
lighting
that
that
is,
there
will
be
no
trucks
delivering
under
that
ramp.
C
Once
we
tear
down
the
existing
building
to
the
north,
the
truck
access
is
designed
there,
so
it
does
work
with
the
current
facility,
but
when
the
current
facility
goes
away,
I
don't
need
trash
trucks
anymore
under
the
ramp,
nor
will
I
be
getting
any
parts
delivery.
Those
functions
are
in
that
south
west
corner
of
the
existing
facility.
C
C
Their
their
requirement
is
a
white
building
in
order
to
get
their
approval
right
now,
our
current
rec
building,
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
need
to,
if
we
don't
build
the
new
facility,
I
don't
mean
don't
need
to.
We
want
to
Toyota
require
that
we
scan
the
felice
the
facade
of
the
existing
building
with
what
they
see
em
and
put
up
one
of
their
cue
entry
ways
that
you'll
see
it
all
the
other
Toyota
dealers
around
them.
C
I
think
it
best
this
one.
With
respect
to
the
lighting
for
the
employees
on
the
top
of
the
rail,
we
intend
that
to
be
employee
parking
and
we're
fine
with
minimal
lighting,
but
we
want
our
employees
safe
when
they
go
up
to
the
top
deck
of
the
ramp.
We
want
them
to
go
see
where
they're
going
not
slip
on
any
snow
or
ice,
but
we
tried
to
give
you
in
fact
the
complaint
about
our
lighting
plan.
Is
it's
not
bright
enough
to
meet
your
code,
so
we
will
work
with
your
staff.
C
We
want
we'll
keep
the
lighting
to
a
minimum
on
that
top
deck,
but
we
do
want
our
employees
safe.
So
I
would
think
that
we
would
have
video
let's
go
off,
as
was
the
employees
have
left
at
the
10
o'clock
mark
and
then
from
10:00
until
dawn
again,
it
could
be
on
a
motion
sensor.
But
while
we
have
all
the
employees
leaving
at
night
type,
I
don't
want
dark
spots
and
light
spots
or
just
our
employee
safety
on
there.
C
I'm
certainly
open
to
other
questions.
The
intent
is
to
get
were
proceeding
with
bed
equipments
for
this
ramp.
We
initially
had
an
order
or
the
precast
and
a
portion
of
the
ramp
in
for
delivery
as
soon
as
August,
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
that
we're
living
through
just
tore
that
schedule
the
shreds
we'd
still
like
to
build
the
ramp.
This
fall
as
indicated.
C
We
are
unable
or
unwilling
to
start
a
new
building.
We
just
can't
take
all
the
parking
off
the
site
and
keep
the
existing
business.
Then
they're
going.
This
ramp
gives
us
that
400
cars
that
aren't
affected
by
the
construction
of
the
new
facility
on
there
as
far
as
the
new
facility,
a
meeting
with
walls
are
again
next
week
and
we're
going
to
look
at
a
schedule.
The
hope
is
that
we
can
work
on
the
financing
and
I
would
like
to
think.
C
C
When
we
tear
it
down,
we
open
that
area
and
create
more
room
for
stormwater
structures
on
this,
but
ultimately
the
whole
site
has
to
meet
a
stormwater,
that's
and
so
I
think
you'll
find
it's
addressed
and
if
it,
if
for
any
reason,
the
the
new
building
doesn't
get
dealt
even
though
the
requirements
have
slightly
changed,
the
site
is
in
compliance
today
and
will
be
in
compliance
when
we
have
constructed
the
first
portion
of
the
ramp
on
there.
So
we've
always
come
back.
C
I
think
I've
been
involved
in
three
different
stormwater
plans
on
this
site,
including
the
way
it's
currently
configured
with
the
rain
garden
down
running
yourself
on
the
property.
So
what
remain
anything
we
do
will
continue
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
stormwater.
A
final
comment
is
with
respect
to
the
southern
curb
line:
we're
pulling
that
north
of
the
ramp
again
20
feet.
We
are
taking
now
parking
to
create
that
management.
Pond
are
south
of
the
ramp,
as
Nick
indicated
on
that
I.
H
You,
madam
chair,
this
may
be
more
of
a
question
for
mr.
Schilling
than
mr.
Phillips.
The
hours
at
this
location
are
those
the
permanent
hours
are
those
the
hours
right
now
due
to
the
current
health
situation,
perhaps
because,
historically,
this
location
has
had
service
hours
as
late
as
11
or
12
p.m.
or
11
Peter,
12
a.m.
D
Yes
I'm
here.
Thank
you.
The
current
hours
are
you're
correct.
They're.
Due
to
the
current
situation,
we
have
had
hours
in
the
service
department
that
ran
till
eleven
o'clock
sales
closed
much
earlier
than
that
the
need
for
that
was
driven
by
our
capacity,
and
these
expansions
solved
that
capacity,
so
I
would
not
expect
that
we'd
have
all
versus
late
as
11
o'clock
in
the
evening
when
we
were
able
to
operate.
D
A
H
You
so
mr.
Schilling,
so
in
the
period
of
time
between
I'm,
straining
I
understand
this
for
the
perspective
of
the
student
complaining
wait
here,
they
are
expected
to
work
or
the
period
of
time
after
this
is
constructed
before
new
facility
is
operational.
Who
expect
your
service
hours
will
continue
to
be
late
once
we
clear
back
to
some
semblance
of
normalcy.
A
K
C
It
would
be
below
the
pond
already
it's.
It
serves
the
low
point
at
our
truck
dock
and
and
goes
down
through
the
burn
on
the
pine
there.
So
again
it
would
not.
It
would
physically
not
not
be
at
a
depth
that
we
could
put
it
into
this
pond
and
the
pond
isn't
designed
to
handle
that
again
that
water,
so
that
that
will
change
with
the
third
phase
of
the
ramp.
C
If
you
come
from
our
east
side
and
go
down
to
the
truck
dock,
I
have
a
full
four
foot
truck
dock
there
and
I'm
on
grade
on
the
east
side
of
the
same
building.
When
we
build
the
third
phase
or
the
North
half
of
the
ramp
will
raise
that
whole
it,
and
so
we
won't.
At
that
point,
we
would
look
at
changes
in
the
overall
stormwater
I.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
follow-up,
fun
again,
mr.
Phillips
working
with
our
engineering
staff,
there's
anything
to
help
treat
that
just
if
it's
possible
I'd
love
to
see
that
happen.
My
second
question
again:
I
asked
staff
regarding
building
materials.
If
we
do
not
see
the
second
phase
occurring
or
new
construction,
it's
this
material,
we're
using,
can
we
add
some
type
of
phosphate,
brick
veneer
or
something
to
match
the
building.
C
I
think
I
think
it's
the
reverse
of
that
Toyota.
If
we
do
not
build
the
second
phase,
we
would
be
coming
back
to
you
to
rescan
the
existing
brick
building
in
white
to
meet
Toyota
standards
either
way.
Toyota
is
gonna
end
up
with
a
white
building
on
the
site.
If
we
want
to
be
a
Toyota
dealer
on
there,
that's
I,
don't
I
don't
get
to
pick
the
material
I'm
dictated
the
material
on
that
we're
not
in
compliance
with
the
brick
building
today
from
Toyota,
and
it
affects
our
ability
for
inventory.
K
Mr.
Phillips
building
materials,
look
at
this
a
the
plan
that
looks
like
the
ramp
going
up
and
down
the
structure
is
on
there.
It's
an
exposed
ramp
on
the
south
side,
except
for
those
three
feet
of
headlight.
Well,
is
it
possible
to
get
to
extend
those
walls
higher
or
not
an
exposed,
even
though
they,
the
three
feet,
might
block
the
headlights
they're
still
going
to
be
a
lot
of
motion
where
noise
strike
or
cars
going
up
and
down
that
exposed
side
of
the
south
wall?
C
We
can
look
at
that.
It's
designed
as
an
open
ramp,
so
we
have
to
have
a
percentage
of
the
walls.
Open
I
can
see
if
we
can
raise
that
to
a
40.
Well,
actually,
we're
not
going
to
have
a
3-foot
wall
anyway
or
42
inch
minimum
for
fall
protection.
There
I
need
a
42
inch,
guardrail
height,
so
we're
at
least
42
I.
Think
I.
Think,
as
shown
in
our
plans,
were
going
to
be
48
inch.
My
walls
there.
K
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
again.
Maybe
a
couple
questions
for
mr.
Phillips
following
up
somewhat
with
Commissioner
Goodrem.
Is
there
I
guess
to
talk
about
the
walls
that
face
the
residential
properties
and
certainly
there's
one
aspect
of
the
visual
that
can
be
coming
from
car
headlights?
But
the
second
is
potential
noise
that
can
echo
through
a
concrete
parking
facility
and
echo
across
a
lake
or
open
property
to
the
adjoining
neighbors.
Is
there
any
thought
or
any
sort
of
noise
control
I
mean
out
of
that
facility?
I.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question.
The
code
requires
this.
It's
designed
as
an
open
facility,
so
by
the
very
nature
of
the
code,
they
can't
enclose
it
and
without
without
enclosing
it.
They
won't
contain
the
noise
but
but
I
wanna
other
than
our
employees,
that
are
that
are
limited
times
where
they'll
be
driving
up
and
down
the
ramp.
I
want
to
remind
everybody.
This
is
not
a
parking
ramp
like
that
involve
America.
There
aren't
people
coming
and
going
all
day
long
out
of
the
rim,
occasionally
we'll
be
bringing
down
an
inventory
car,
but
it's
nothing.
C
It's
nothing
tribe
in
during
the
day
and
drive
out
right
in
the
test.
Drive
vehicles
will
all
be
in
our
own
greed
stalls.
They
won't
be
in
the
ramp
B,
so
the
the
during
during
most
days,
the
only
activity
on
the
driving
up
and
down
the
ramp
would
be
employees
and
a
few
cars.
Maybe
20
20
vehicles
that
they
a
are
brought
down
to
be
serviced
and
sold,
and
but
it's
a
pretty
there's,
not
a
high
turnover
in
the
parking
stalls
on
a
daily
basis.
A
J
As
I
understand
it,
those
really
are
the
vehicles
for
inventory
mr.
Phillips,
so
you,
your
test
drives,
will
be
on
the
vehicles
in
the
a
grade
parking
lot,
but
if
they
want
a
red
version
of
the
Highlander,
you
go
into
this.
This
parking
garage
to
find
a
red
Highlander
and
bring
it
out
is
that
correct,
yeah.
C
If,
if
you
have
a
customer
that
is
looking
to
buy
a
particular
car,
we
have
an
inventory
if
that
cars
in
the
ramp
is
supposed
to
own
grade.
We
would
go
up
and
get
it.
We
not
intend
to
allow
any
colors
to
drive
in
employees
going
into
the
top
and
and
there's,
but
this
mean
by
maybe
20
a
day
will
be
parked
in
the
ramp
and
brought
down
for
to
be
sold
out
of
there.
C
J
C
They
just
won't
approve
it.
I
would
point
out
that
maybe
we
have
a
very
large
white
building
on
the
corner
of
494
and
35
W
and
I
have
an
even
larger
white
building
that
abuts
residential
across
the
drainage
pond
in
in
Minnetonka
and
when
I
look
at
the
sky.
I
see
white
clouds
when
I.
Look
at
the
snow,
I
see
white
snow
white
is
a
natural
color
I
again
I
don't
get
to
select
the
color
for
that
yeah.
C
Toyota
can't
require
a
color.
What
they
can
say
is
we're
not
going
to
give
you
this
stipend
per
sale
or
this
mortgage
assistance.
If
you
don't
meet
our
standards
and
both
the
loss
of
the
Toyota
participation,
but
would
ensure
that
the
new
building
isn't
going
to
get
built,
I
don't
mean
to
be
overly
attic.
It's
just
the
factories
really
and
if
you
look
at
all
manufacturers,
the
factories
all
have
a
standard
and
there's
an
architect.
I
don't
get
to
pick
what
I
want
for
the
outside
anymore
on
any
any
dealership
building.
J
A
F
Thanks,
madam
chair,
this
question
is
for
mr.
Phillips,
as
we
know
many
manufacturers,
especially
with
distributors
or
dealerships
they
have
these
standards
and
they
update
the
standards
over
time,
which
kind
of
results
into
what
we're
talking
about
today.
But
approximately.
How
old
is
this
white
facade
standard
from
Toyota
and
how
frequently
are
they
refreshing
their
standards
that
might
give
us
an
idea
of
how
long
we
are
to
see
the
white
in
the
population
if
it's
going
to
be
multi-phase?
Is
that
going
to
change.
C
Answer
your
question
regarding
of
white
I
think
Toyota
has
been
15,
maybe
18
years
with
their
current
look
their
signature
piece
that
they
want.
In
addition,
they
have
some
red
eyebrows
and
white
on
the
front
or
Berg
laughs
with
some
red
eyebrows,
and
then
they
have
this
large
acrylic
cubed
entry
way
in
the
case
of
the
new
building.
If
we're
doing
it
here,
it'll
be
a
50-foot
tall
cubed.
C
Yes,
it
has
to
be
taller
than
the
building
by
2
feet,
but
I
don't
see
Toyota
changing
in
the
next
in
the
15
years
from
the
standard
they
they.
They
are
very
rigid
on
it
today
and
requiring
everybody
for
the
last
15
years
like
wall,
so
that
has
a
necklace
standard
to
either
remodel
or
don't
do
on
there,
and
they
wouldn't
be
doing
that
that
on
the
existing
facilities,
if
they
expected
the
change
in
a
year
or
two
on
there
but
they've,
but
they
also
don't
tell
us.
C
What
I
can
what
I
can
tell
you
about?
Electric
electric
vehicle
charging
and
Walzer?
Is
we
have
most
manufacturer?
If
manufacturer
has
any
electric
vehicle
requires
some
stations
and,
and
so
when
we
have
a
plug-in
Prius,
we
need
AV
charging
stations
even
on
walzer's
dealerships
where
they
don't
have.
C
So
so
we
want
to
replan,
for
that,
and
I
should
tell
you
I'm
the
proud
owner
of
electric
vehicle,
so
I'm
on
Balls's
case
all
the
time
about
them.
So
so
they've
got
them
in
all
their
new
dealerships.
We
put
in
provisions
for
electric
charging
firing
tests
of
the
manufacturers
requirements
because
it's
coming,
you
know.
C
C
The
the
previous,
the
previous
proposals
have
all
failed,
because
they're
concerned
about
putting
the
current
business
out
of
business
to
build
the
new,
and
we
just
can't
can't
have
it
both
ways.
If
we
don't
have
the
existing
business,
we
can't
build
the
new
one,
and
this
this
really
allows
us
to
get
keep
in
business,
and
we
would
ask
that
you
consider
recommending
approval.
B
A
H
A
Albrecht
aye
and
that's
an
I
for
me,
moving
on
to
discussion,
I
guess
one
question
may
be
this:
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
question
or
a
comment
for
staff,
but
in
hearing
the
applicant
to
speak
about.
If
the
future
phases
do
not
move
forward,
the
plan
would
be
to
I
guess:
integrate
the
existing
building
into
the
white
or
color
scheme
or
whatever
of
the
parking
ramp.
But
where
does
that
leave
us
with
allowing
the
open
cable
on
the
north
side?
If
that
doesn't
end
up
being
built
into
an
additional
ramp?
Yeah.
E
Madam
chair
Nick
Johnson
again
it's
a
good
question.
We
discussed
that
internally
as
a
staff
in
terms
of
the
pros
of
core
pros
of
or
cons
of
weighing
some
kind
of
interim
strategy
should
they
not
build.
Ultimately,
we
decided
against
having
some
kind
of
strategy
to
put
that
in
place
if
a
shot
clock
expired
on
the
future
phases,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
the
majority
of
the
ramp
to
the
north
is
screen
behind
the
building
and
secondly,
even
if
the
top
floor
is
visible,
it's
really
casting
headlights
out
towards
494.
E
H
So
perhaps
we
may
have
some
condition
that
if
they
move
to
a
recent
getting
up
a
building
which
would
imply
the
current
building,
which
would
imply
that
there's
not
a
continuation.
At
that
time,
we
may
trigger
a
requirement
to
at
least
on
the
top
level
for
sure
to
have
that
additional
concrete
wall
or
skirting
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
H
Otherwise,
I
think
you
know
I
appreciate
that
they
have
submitted
a
plan
with
lights
at
the
top
level
that
are
lower
than
allowed.
I
know,
I
heard
them
talk
about
why
they
would
prefer
not
to
have
them
on
a
motion
sensor,
but
I
also
know
that
and
again,
especially
if
the
rest
of
the
project
doesn't
go
forward.
H
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
where
the
other
commissioners
had
to
say,
but
I
do
think
it's
at
least
going
to
be
for
a
couple
of
years
at
that
lighting
would
likely
be
on
until
well
at
past
eleven
o'clock,
which
I
think
is
a
big
impact
for
the
residential
beyond
that
I
think
this
appears
to
be
it
wasn't
on
the
commission
when
the
first
one
was
passed,
but
this
does
appear
to
be
an
improvement
over
what
was
there
as
far
as
impact
to
adjacent
residential.
So
here's
here
others
have
to
say,
commissioner,.
K
Madam
chair
I
was
on
the
Commission
back
in
2016
and
supported
their
project
at
that
time,
and
if
you
recall
that
was
a
five-story
building
against
the
south
south
side
of
the
property,
not
as
far
as
others
a
bit
more
there's
a
role
parking
back
behind
there
too.
So
I
support
the
growth
of
this
facility
walls
are
do
want
them
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
I
am
looking
at
following
up
on
Commissioner
Romans
comments
that
consider
a
condition
that
what
a
timeline.
If
we
don't
CD
submitted
plans
within
three
years
two
to
three
years.
K
They
need
to
come
back
and
getting
that
building
or
match
those
uses.
I
don't
want
to
see
a
brick
and
a
brick
building
and
a
white
building
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
years
so
I
like
to
see
some
type
of
condition,
possibly
about
putting
a
time
frame
when
that
happens
and
also
condition
supporting
the
landscaping
on
the
west
side.
Additional
landscaping
and.
K
Exposing
the
the
southern
side,
if
there
is
something
we
could
do,
you
know
mr.
Phillips
noted
that
there's
going
to
be
a
46
or
48
inch
wall
panel
on
that
side,
make
that
a
condition
that
there's
a
minimum
wall
not
to
three
FIFA.
The
minimum
wall
of
whatever
industry
standards
are
for
those
type
of
precast
panels.
If
it's
48:46
or
what
number
that
could
be
again.
K
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
follow
up
on
some
of
these
I
appreciate
the
applicants
information
here
tonight.
I
think
it
helped
with
some
of
the
questions.
I'd
agree
with
Commissioner
Goodrem
about
adding
an
additional
condition
for
screening
the
west
side
of
the
property
from
the
condos
on
the
west.
J
Walls
then,
then,
are
currently
in
code
and
I
think
maybe
we
could
add
wording
that
would
say
in
accordance
with
current
building
code,
because
I
would
lay
out
at
42
or
46
inch
requirement
whatever.
That
is
beyond
that
the
front
the
North
and
the
North
elevation
I'm.
Thinking
about
you
know
what
does
that
look
like
in
the
future
and
I
have
been
part
of
studies
in
the
past
that
look
at
the
extent
of
headlights
and
the
glare
into
residential
properties
and
I.
J
Think
what
we're
looking
at
is
the
placement
of
that
existing
structure
would
have
very
little
effect
headlights
on
anything
to
the
north.
It
certainly
doesn't
appear
that
it
would
impact
any
residential
if
anything,
it's
shining
across
the
north
across
the
the
roof
of
the
existing
facility,
and
so
maybe,
if
anything,
it's
it's
more
about
the
fact
that
we're
looking
at
the
impacts
to
residential
properties
and
not
to
the
roof
of
Walzer
or
494,
where
it's
the
distance,
has
really
outweighed
the
impact
of
the
headlights.
J
I
think
you
know
understanding
that
the
the
goal
of
the
dealership
is
to
really
come
in
compliance
with
Toyota's
requirements,
I'm
less
concerned
that
the
city
require
it
and
that
Toyota
will
give
them
the
financial
backing
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
rather
than
the
city
and
enforcing
some
sort
of
change
in
this
particular
instance.
So
I'll
leave
my
comments
with
that.
F
Thanks,
madam
chair
and
I
think
most
of
the
comments
that
I've
heard
I
would
agree
with
I.
Just
wanted
to
add
a
few
things
that
I
just
took
notes
of
is
the
first
thing
is
I
want
to
think
the
staff,
as
well
as
the
property
owner
on
the
water
treatment
of
the
runoff
I,
think
protecting
that
pond,
as
well
as
the
wildlife
that
lived
there
and
the
residents
that
live.
Closeby
is
very
important,
so
I
know
with
runoff
of
buildings,
as
well
as
the
nature
of
auto
repair.
F
F
It
being
you
know
at
the
3-foot
height,
but
then
there
is
a
six
foot
burn
that
is
higher
than
that
screening,
so
I'm
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around.
What
does
that
really
look
like?
Are
we
being
redundant
or
not?
I'm,
not
saying
we
should.
We
need
to
change
anything.
It
was
just
something
that
hit
with
the
screening
being
lower
than
the
in
the
burn.
Are
we
really
being
effective
here
and
then?
F
The
other
comment
that
I
had
is,
we
are
being
asked
to
have
new
zoning,
so
zone
2,
a
c1
which
would
make
this
approved
use
versus
a
conditional
use.
Permit
I
would
be
supportive
in
that,
just
as
it,
it
is
consistent
with
kind
of
the
direction
that
we're
going
as
well
as
ensuring
that
we
have
predefined
standards
within
that
zone.
So
those
are
my
comments
and
then
I'll
take
everything
else
off
line.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
appreciate
the
property
response
regarding
the
light
blocking
and
my
question
in
the
south
and
the
west
side
of
the
ramp,
particularly
around
truck
traffic
I,
do
think
that
it's
important
for
us
to
address
light
issues
now,
given
what
we've
heard
from
the
public,
however
I
do
agree
with
Monsieur
Goldsman
about
the
berm
and
I.
Think
mr.
Solberg
also
said
the
same
thing.
You
know.
I
went
there
in
the
evening
last
night
and
took
a
look
at
that
berm.
G
You
know
connecting
that
with
the
current
Building
Code
I
think
what
Commissioner
Roman
had
said
regarding
service
until
11:00
p.m.
you
know,
I
was
there
about
9:30
and
people
were
out
and
about
moving
around.
It
definitely
was
busy
busier
than
I
thought
it
would
be,
and
so
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
interesting
and
I
think
we.
We
need
to
take
that
into
account
as
well,
but
I
I
do
appreciate.
A
Can
I
check
will
send
you
sorry
about
that
I
guess
just
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
the
various
comments
that
have
been
made.
I
I,
guess
I
also
am
at
this
point,
based
on
the
the
various
comments,
other
commissioners
that
may
leaning
less
towards
requiring
anything
specific
timewise
regarding
that
North
elevation
and
with
getting
the
building
it
does
sound
like.
A
Maybe
Toyota
would
be
more
of
an
enforcer
on
that
then
the
city
but
I,
guess
the
thing
I
keep
coming
back
to
that
I'm,
not
really
clear
on
where
the
rest
of
the
Commission
is
is
regarding
any
potential
condition
regarding
the
lighting
on
the
roof.
I
do
appreciate
the
applicant.
Has
those
lights
I
guess
that
quite
a
bit
lower
in
height
than
what
they
would
need
to,
but
it
sounds
like.
A
Maybe
there
was
the
question
about
motion
sensors,
especially
if
we
end
up
in
a
situation
where
perhaps
the
phase
two
or
three
do
not
get
built
or
are
ascended
way
out
into
the
future,
and
those
service
hours
do
continue
later
into
the
night.
So
I'm
just
curious,
if
maybe
where
other
commissioners
are
add
on
that
and
if
that's
something
they
were
considering
as
a
condition
or
what
what
their
thoughts
were
on
that
Kristian
Albrecht.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
think
that's
it
really
interesting
way
tonight.
You
know
I
keep
I,
go
back
and
forth
about
the
motion,
sensor
lights,
primarily
because
I
think
mr.
Johnson
made
a
good
point
regarding
whether
or
not
if
I
was
a
neighbor
wanting
lights
to
go
on
and
off
on
and
off,
rather
than
being
on
the
entire
time
and
I.
Think
I
would
rather
have
the
latter
of
those
two,
particularly
if
it's
around
11
p.m.
you
know.
If
service
happens,
it's
you
know
goes
until
11:00
p.m.
and
the
lights
are
on
and
off.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
would
say
I'm
I,
wouldn't
you
know
with
Commissioner
Albrecht,
you
know
seeing
the
types
of
lights
that
are
required
by
the
city
and
the
LED
lights,
I
think
oftentimes,
we
still
think
of
the
old
streetlights
and
how
much
glare
that
they
created
and
how
much
area
that
they
lit
up
compared
to
the
new
LED
lights
and
the
requirements
of
facing
you
know
straight
down.
That's
a
substantially
smaller
amount
of
light
pollution.
That's
created
from
that
and
so
I
don't
know
that.
J
A
J
Attentive
to
what
some
of
the
other
commissioners
are
and
I
was
looking
for,
the
addition
and
I
don't
know
that
it
is
a
specific,
specific
condition.
I'll
ask
if
mr.
marker
guard
mr.
Johnson
have
it
in
there's
about
the
36
inch
wall,
as
we
talked
about.
Maybe
me
just
code
and
building
building
code
requirements.
E
Madam
chair
Commissioner,
Solberg
condition
in
the
recommended
list
of
conditions,
condition
number
fourteen
states.
The
parking
structure
must
be
designed
to
block
vehicle
headlights
on
all
floors
and
elevations,
except
for
the
northern
elevation.
The
design
of
the
western
and
southern
ground
level
floor
must
be
modified
to
meet
this
requirement
and.
J
J
You
in
case
PL
to
0
to
0-5
having
been
able
to
make
the
required
findings,
I
moved
to
recommend
approval.
The
major
revision
to
preliminary
development
plans
and
final
development
plans
to
construct
a
three-story
parking
structure
with
up
to
415
parking
inventory
stalls
to
serve
an
existing
class
1
and
class
2
motor
vehicle
sales
facility
located
at
4400
one
American
bollard,
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report.
With
the
addition
of
the
condition.