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From YouTube: May 13, 2021 Planning Commission Meeting
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Planning Commission Meeting
B
All
right,
thank
you
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
may
13th
bloomington
planning
commission
meeting
planning.
Commission
advises
the
city
council
on
development
proposals,
development
standards,
long-range
planning
and
transportation
issues
some
items.
The
planning
commission
has
the
final
decision
authority.
Others,
the
city
council,
make
the
final
decision.
B
B
A
A
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
mark
regard,
and
for
those
who
are
not
familiar
with
the
public
process
that
the
planning
commission
utilizes.
Just
a
brief
reminder.
The
planning
commission
will
get
a
report
from
staff
and
then
the
next
item
would
typically
be
any
questions
we
have
of
staff
and
then
an
applicant
would
speak
to
their
item
if
they
feel
there's
more
to
add
after
the
applicant
has
had
an
opportunity
to
speak,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
and
at
that
point
the
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
planning.
B
Commission
I'd
remind
folks
that
we
typically
limit
the
time
for
each
speaker
to
three
minutes.
So
that
gives
an
opportunity
for
everybody
to
speak
and
then,
if,
at
the
end
of
the
three
minutes
you
feel,
there's
more.
To
add
to
the
conversation
would
ask
that
you
go
to
the
back
of
the
line
and
and
then
we'll
rotate
through
that
way.
B
Any
questions
that
the
public
may
have
please
direct
them
to
myself
as
the
chair
and
then
the
planning
commission
may
decide
to
take
those
up
if
they
feel
they're
important
enough
to
the
discussion
at
hand
in
front
of
us.
So
tonight
again
we
have
five
items.
Our
first
item,
I
believe
mr
centenario,
you
have.
The
first
item-
is
that
right.
C
C
So
it's
it's
a
quite
a
small
site
outlined
in
red.
You
know
this
is
really
just
along
penn
avenue
where
southtown
shopping
center
is
located,
so
you
have
the
the
subject
site
along
penn.
You
have
tcf
bank
across
the
street.
South
south
town
obviously
is
right
to
the
east,
and
then
interstate
494
is
off
the
screen
to
the
north.
C
What's
interesting
about
this,
application
is
for
the
folks
that
the
commissioners
that
have
been
on
the
commission
for
a
few
years
now
we
actually,
we
received
a
variance
to
paint
the
brick
at
tcf
bank
across
the
street,
a
little
bit
different
of
a
scenario
that,
where
that
building
is
predominantly
brick
but
the
variance
applications
for
the
same
set
of
standards.
So
really
we're
looking
at
this
variants
to
allow
painting
of
brick
exterior,
which
is
not
permitted
by
city
code.
C
This
is
the
building
that
we're
looking
at
it's
a
former
wedding
day,
diamonds
jewelry
store
at
7901
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
a
mix
of
materials.
You
have
some
glass
in
the
front,
but
then,
above
that,
brick
veneer.
That's
the
lower
three
feet.
It's
predominantly
stucco,
and
so
this
build
is
about
20
years
old.
C
So
essentially,
what
the
applicant
is
looking
to
do
is
you
know
to
re-rebrand
and
do
some
external
modifications
to
house
a
bank
in
this
in
this
building,
where
the
jewelry
store
used
to
be
so
again,
we're
really
looking
at
is
we're
not
looking
at
the
stucco
as
part
of
this
application
they
would
reskin
the
stucco
with
an
acrylic
finish,
which
there
there's
a
code
allowance
to
do
really.
The
issue
at
hand
is
painting
that
bottom
three
feet,
brick
on
the
building.
C
It
does
go
around
the
the
building,
so
we'll
get
into
more
detail
in
a
moment,
but
the
code
is
very
specific
on
what
you
can
and
can't
do
to
building
exteriors
and
what
the
what
the
requirements
are
for
materials
and
and
again
we'll
get
into
language
a
little
bit.
But
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
related
to
the
variance
specifically
is.
Is
there
something
wrong
with
the
brick
or
is
there
something
that's
deteriorating?
That
requires
some
sort
of
coding.
C
So
you
know
on
my
way
into
the
office.
I
just
stopped
by
the
site
real
quick
to
take
a
couple
pictures
of
the
brick
as
it
is
today,
and
you
know
it
looks
pretty
good.
So
this
is
about
20
years
old
and
apart
from
you
know,
just
basic
maintenance,
like
your
caulking
scene,
on
between
the
brick
and
the
sidewalk,
the
brick
itself
looked
really
good.
So
as
far
as
I
could
tell-
and
I'm
not
a
mason
but
it
you
know,
it
looks
like
the
material's
in
really
good
condition.
C
Here's
the
as
part
of
the
applicant's
move
to
have
a
bank
at
this
facility,
they've
prepared
some
building
elevations
to
identify
what
what
the
changes
would
be,
and
so
you
can
see
that
the
the
glass
block
along
penn
avenue
would
be
replaced
by
by
more
traditional
windows.
They
would
square
off
the
the
vestibule
area
facing
penn
avenue.
It's
a
more.
C
You
know,
modern
traditional
modern
design
and
you
know,
match
the
look
of
the
bank,
and
then
you
can
see
on
the
lower
image
the
difference
between
the
existing
brick
to
be
painted,
and
then
you
have
about
that
existing
stucco
system
to
be
refinished,
and
so
we're
not
looking
at
the
refinishing.
There's
a
there's
separate
specific
standards
for
the
application
of
acrylic
finish,
but
going
to
the
city
code
requirements.
C
We
don't
feel
like
that.
These
criteria
are
met.
There
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
existing
condition
that
is
causing
deterioration
or
something
unique
to
that
brick.
Compared
to
what
we
see
throughout
the
city,
it
certainly
isn't
old.
20
years
old
is
pretty
young
in
the
lifespan
of
a
brick
for
reference.
The
target
store
across
the
street,
I
believe,
was
built
in
the
60s
and
that's
kind
of
where
the
the
non-coding,
brick
or
better
standard
originated,
and
that
that's
from
the
60s
and
uncoated
and
still
in
great
conditions.
C
So,
in
addition
to
just
a
maintenance
thing,
it
also
reduces
the
need
to
take
enforcement
action
due
to
property
maintenance
when
there's
peeling
paint
or
degraded
materials.
Because
of
you
know
the
certain
water
intrusion
issues
that
are
associated
with
painting
a
breathing
material
like
brick
or
some
other
type
of
masonry.
C
So
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
that
the
reddish
brick
like
at
the
pen
avenue
property
is
against
the
the
company's
color
palette.
That
is
something
we'll
hear
when
a
company
rebrands
they
have
a
certain
color
palette
and
that
when
you
do
a
remodel
you
have
you
absolutely
have
to
stay
within
that
those.
The
parameters
of
that
color
palette
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
case
with
this
particular
company,
given
they're
building
a
brand
new
building
with
red
brick.
C
Further
there
there
are
options
and
that's
something
we
we
focus
on
when
we're
looking
at
variances
is.
Are
there?
Are
there
alternatives,
reasonable
alternatives
to
the
variance
or
the
need
to
the
variance?
And
we
think
there
are
several
good
good
options.
So
this
is
the
what's
a
play
here.
Is
brick
veneer?
It's
not
structural.
It's
really
just
a
layer
of
brick
on
the
exterior
of
a
building,
and
so
that
can
be
replaced.
C
Certainly
it's
more
expensive.
The
easiest
most
cost
effective
way
to
change.
The
color
is
the
paint
so
changing
the
brick
would
be
a
much
more
extensive,
a
change
and
cost,
but
it
is
an
option.
The
the
folks
could
also
apply
a
stone,
tile
or
other
sort
of
concrete
product
to
the
brick
that
usually
apply.
You
know
requires
the
application
of
a
lath
and
then
another
layer
of
like
a
cementitious
coat
before
applying
that
stone
or
tile
or
concrete
product.
C
So
it
does
bulk
up
the
wall
a
little
bit,
but
it
certainly
is
an
option.
Some
folks
actually
apply
stucco
to
a
stucco
system
to
the
brick.
That's
been
done
in
a
couple
of
hotels
in
bloomington,
where
similarly,
a
different
brand
had
a
different
color
scheme
and
they
they
weren't.
They
didn't
want
the
brick,
so
they
actually
had
a
stucco
system
specific
to
a
a
masonry
sub
substructure
to
to
meet
their
look.
C
And
then
you
know,
another
option
is
to
apply
metal
panels.
You
know,
metal
panels
is
a
very
popular
exterior
material
and
certainly
that
could
be
an
option
in
this
case.
We're
not
saying
how
a
building
should
be
designed
or
what
the
color
scheme
should
be
we're
less
interested
in
color
than
we
are
the
durability
and
the
quality
of
the
materials
long
term.
C
So
with
that,
we
are
recommending
denial
of
this
variance
and
in
your
packet,
was
the
staff
report
that
listed
out
all
the
findings
of
facts
and
in
order
to
approve
a
variance.
All
of
those
findings
have
to
be
met
and
staff.
We
didn't
feel
that
three
of
those
findings
were
met
and
I
listed
those
a
c
and
e.
So
we
can
go
through
those
findings
if
you'd
like,
but
we
are,
we
are
recommending
denial
and
the
recommended
motion
for
you.
C
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
you
know
it's
not
to
the
same
level.
Certainly
so
if
you
apply
stucco
to
brick,
it's
not
it's
not
like
you're,
applying
one
individual
coat
of
stucco
finish
directly
to
the
brick,
because
that
likely
wouldn't
be
very
successful
or
durable
long
term.
The
system
of
the
stucco
system
is
again
where
you
have
to
apply
a
lath
to
the
brick,
so
the
the
subsequent
layers
can
adhere
to
the
wall.
C
E
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
guess
the
question
that
I
have
is
in
the
previous
application
that
we
had
that
you
referenced
in
your
staff
report.
We
were
talking
about
more
of
a
varnish
versus
a
paint,
so
it
was
more
of
a
like
a
dye
versus
a
coating.
Is
that
something
that
this
is
or
refresh
my
memory
about
that
type
of
product
and
how
it
applies
to
this
application.
C
We
often
hear
the
response.
What
about
staining
and
staining
is
a
coating,
but
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
penetrate
the
entirety
of
the
brick.
It's
really
only
a
fraction
of
an
inch
that
it
penetrates
the
you
know
the
pores
of
of
the
brick
and
actually
staining
it
in
some
ways
is
worse
than
painting
because
you
well,
it
is
very
laborious
and
expensive
to
remove
paint
from
brick.
You
can
do
it,
whereas
once
you
stain
you
can't
unstain
brick,
so
the
standards
are
the
same.
B
A
F
You
all
right
now,
thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
commentary
and
and
the
questions.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Just
the
only
the
only
kind
of
additional
information
that
I
can
add
is
you
know
that
we
were
proposing
is
kind
of
a
stoke
or
top
coat
that
is
vapor
permeable
it
does
it
it's
it's
kind
of
a
it
adds
for
some
superior
protection
to
you
know
the
brick
itself
there.
The
only
other
you
know,
item
that
I
can
add
into
that
commentary.
F
Is
that
the
maintenance
issue,
if,
if
there's
anything
that
we
needed
to
do
as
far
as
you
know,
keeping
you
know
the
the
materials
working
or
keeping
them
up
to
standards.
We
would
you
know
gladly
do
that
or
you
know
kind
of
go.
However,
however,
was
recommended
by
all
of
you,
but
I
didn't
really
have
much
more
commentary
on
that,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
really
appreciate
it.
B
B
A
C
G
B
E
B
B
Maybe
I'll
start,
I
think
pretty
clear
in
my
mind,
findings.
Looking
at
the
findings
that
mr
centenario
provided,
the
variance
really
is
created
by
the
landowner
and
the
desire
to
change
the
color
and
as
well
as
one
of
the
other
issues
really
just
talking
about.
You
know
the
cost
for
replacing
such
and
we
can't
consider
just
the
economic
considerations
alone
for
issuance
of
variances.
So
in
my
mind
this
is
pretty
clear,
cut
to
recommend
denial
of
variance.
Commissioner
roman,
thank
you.
H
This
is
a
a
specific
area
of
code
where
we've
been
pretty
consistent
and
pretty
rigid
about
sticking
with
you
know,
should
there
be
an
appetite
by
the
council
or
members
of
the
commission
to
revisit
that
in
the
future
we
could,
but
from
a
variance
standpoint.
We
have
not
issued
variances
for
this
purpose
and
I'm
not
inclined
to
change
that
precedent
at
this
time.
So
I
two
of
them
supporting
a
denial.
D
B
E
B
D
B
All
right,
commission
members,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
in
front
of
us,
to
recommend
the
city
council,
a
resolution
denying
the
variants
to
paint
brick
and
exterior
materials
on
an
existing
building
at
7901
penn
avenue.
Is
there
any
further
discussion,
not
seeing
any
all
those
in
favor
of
said
motion
I
by
roll
call,
commissioner
boltzmann.
E
D
B
B
D
The
address
is
951
american
boulevard
east.
The
site
is
just
east
of
american
boulevard
and
chicago
avenue.
Intersection
surrounding
uses
mostly
include
other
office
warehouse
uses,
hakes
auto.
They
would
occupy
4
800
square
feet
of
the
18
000
square
foot
building
and
the
space
would
be
located
in
the
back
of
the
building
highlighted
in
yellow
on
my
screen
and
then
here's
a
photo
on
the
bottom
right
hand.
Side
of
my
screen
of
a
street
image.
D
D
Just
a
couple
items
here,
parking
is
compliant
with
the
auto
repair
use.
However,
any
other
use
other
than
the
office
warehouse
or
expansion
of
an
office
must
be
reviewed
for
parking
compliance
and
the
landscaping
is
compliant
and
must
continue
to
be
maintained
and
the
lighting
is
compliant
as
well,
and
then
it
should
be
noted
that
upon
inspection,
a
wall
pack
has
burnt
out,
so
that
should
be
replaced
in
order
to
keep
compliance
and
the
space
is
tenant
or
is
move-in
ready,
so
building
permits
not
needed
at
this
time.
D
B
B
A
B
B
E
B
I
B
E
H
B
B
J
B
K
K
Many
of
you
were
on
the
board
last
year
when
they
came
through
with
their
request,
so
you
should
be
fairly
familiar
with
this
site,
but
for
those
are
not
on
the
site
is
just
to
the
west
of
france,
avenue
along
american
boulevard,
west
and,
of
course,
494
directly
to
the
north.
There
there's
an
office
used
to
the
west.
K
Just
to
note
the
other
surrounding
uses
to
the
east,
the
denny's
restaurant
in
the
american
hotel,
that's
actually
part
of
an
existing
plan,
development
with
sensors
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
later
in
the
presentation
and
then
to
the
south.
You
have
wanda
miller
pond
as
well
as
single-family
residential
neighborhoods
in
the
area.
K
K
So,
whereas
you
know
just
a
surface
parking
might
be
very
valuable,
inventory
storage
for
an
automobile
sales,
it
doesn't
increase
substantially
the
amount
of
building
area
or
employment
associated
with
these
facilities.
So
it's
a
tricky
balance
of
making
these
facilities
obviously
successful.
They
need
a
certain
amount
of
inventory
on
site
to
be
successful,
but
the
city's
interest
is
to
ensure
that
these
highly
visible
and
valuable
sites
along
you
know
our
most
traveled
roadways
are
centers
for
employment
and
economic
activity
and
jobs.
K
So
that's
that's
really
the
balance
of
what
the
crux
of
that
issue
is
so
this
expansion
in
2004
it
was
approved
premised.
It
was
initially
actually
going
down
the
track
of
a
denial,
but
the
applicant
withdrew
in
order
to
build
a
more
substantial
facility
there.
There
was
a
preliminary
development
plan
that
included
a
five-story
dealership
building
at
that
time.
So
the
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment
was
approved
contingent
upon
a
future
approval
of
final
development
plans.
K
For
that
you
know
future
more
substantial,
dealership
and
office
facility
and
that
never
came
to
pass
so
in
2006,
revised
final
development
plans
were
adopted
that
did
involve
the
expansion
of
the
surface
parking.
The
city
did
not
achieve
the
expansion
of
the
dealership.
The
way
that
they
originally
envisioned-
and
you
know
walls
are-
can
certainly
speak
for
themselves.
K
I
think
that
they
ideally
would
have
pursued
that
expansion
in
the
dealership,
but
for
whatever
reason,
whether
it
be
construction
costs
or
other
market
considerations
as
it
pertains
to
motor
vehicle
sales,
they
did
not
pursue
that
expansion
at
that
time.
So
that's
relevant
to
tonight's
discussion
because
we'll
talk
about
again.
This
is
another
project
that
has
it's
a
phased
construction
plan
and
I
will
present
that
to
you
in
a
minute,
but
there's
well
with
what
we're
talking
about
in
the
staff
report
as
well
as
in
tonight's
presentation.
K
So
the
image
that
I
have
on
the
slide
for
you,
that's
just
the
image
from
2003,
so
you
see
kind
of
the
previous
condition
of
what
occurred
at
the
dealership
prior
to
that
2004
expansion
and
that
did
replace
grandma's
saloon
in
delhi.
And
then
you
see
sensors
here
on
the
east
side
of
that
slide.
So
that
just
shows
you
kind
of
how
the
expansion's
occurred
over
the
years
and
then
more
recently.
K
This
you
can
see
that
on
the
left
side
of
the
slide,
this
was
a
two-story
dealership
and
a
five-story
parking
ramp,
lined
along
the
southern
portion
of
the
site
with
surface
parking
in
the
north.
This
plan
never
came
to
pass
because
it
could
not
have
been
phased
in
a
way
to
keep
the
existing
dealership
fully
in
operation
during
the
construction
process.
It's
very
important
to
waltzer
to
stay
in
business
during
the
construction
process,
and
then
this
this
plan,
you
see
here
on
the
right
side
of
the
slide.
K
This
is
the
plan
that
the
planning
commission
considered
last
summer
that
you
would
be
more
familiar
with
and
at
that
final
development
plan
approval
that
also
involved
a
rezoning
to
the
c1.
So
we'll
talk
about
that
with
the
sensor
site,
but
this
was
also
a
phased
plan
and
the
whole
purpose
of
this
phasing
was
again
to
keep
the
existing
dealership,
which
is
outlined
in
red
in
business
during
construction.
K
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
this
restaurant
was
developed
in
1982
as
part
of
a
three
lot
planned
development,
and
so
you
can
see
those
parcels
here
outlined
in
the
yellow
boundary,
and
so
when
we
have
a
scenario
where
we
have
a
parcel
in
an
existing
plan.
Development
with
other
owners,
depending
on
the
physical
changes
being
proposed.
It's
important
to
get
some
level
of
consent
or
support
from
the
adjoining
property
owners,
particularly
in
a
scenario
where
you
have
both
shared
access
and
parking
in
this
case,
and
so
there
are
different
elements
of
shared
parking
and
access.
K
Here,
we've
looked
through
the
voluminous
case
history
of
this
plan
development.
You
know
the
record.
Keeping
back
then
was
probably
not
as
substantial
as
it
is
today,
but
from
what
we've
gathered,
the
the
sensor
site
would
be
required
to
provide
19
parking
stalls
to
the
other
parcels
in
order
to
maintain
their
compliance
with
city
code
on
the
basis
of
today's
standards.
K
So
that's
just
one
thing
to
note
and
the
wallser
has
been
diligent
in
working
with
the
adjoining
owners
in
order
to
gain
their
consent
and
include
in
your
packet
was
letters
of
consent
submitted
by
denny's
and
american
to
remove
the
sensor's
parcel
from
the
existing
plan,
development
on
the
assumption
and
contingent
upon
that
shared
access
and
these
19
parking
stalls
continue
to
be
provided,
and
so
that's
that's.
What
you'll
see
reflected
in
the
plans
is
kind
of
that
arrangement
or
agreement
that
they
have
reached
with
these
other
parties.
K
Getting
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
request
so
currently
the
sensor
site
is
guided
community
commercial,
that
is
a
land
use
designation
that
does
not
allow
automobile
sales.
So
in
order
to
expand
the
walls
or
toyota
facility
onto
this
site
over
to
the
east,
they
have
to
re-guide
the
site,
and
so
in
terms
of
the
community
commercial
designation
versus
the
regional
commercial.
As
I
said,
community
commercial
does
not
allow
automobile
sales,
whereas
regional
commercial
is
the
only
commercial
category
that
does
allow
for
motor
vehicle
sales.
K
K
Excuse
me,
so
this
this
site
meets
that
access
criteria.
It's
a
quarter
mile
or
a
little
less
than
a
quarter
mile
from
interstate
494
again
just
to
the
west
of
france.
Avenue
excuse
me
and
is
certainly
on
an
arterial
roadway
with
american
boulevard,
so
kind
of
like
a
rezoning.
What
we
look
at
with
these
re-guiding
requests
is
you
know?
How
is
the?
How
is
the
guiding
changing,
and
certainly
regional
commercial
is
one
step
up
in
commercial
activity
and
that
it
allows
that
motor
vehicle
sales
use
the
site
does
meet
the
access
criteria.
K
So
that's
another
thing
that
we
look
at
and
then
finally,
what
we
look
at
for
both
three
guidings
and
rezonings
is
what
is
the
public
benefit
associated
with
this
project?
You
know
why
should
the
city
which
re-guide
a
parcel,
which
is
the
highest
level
of
city
discretion
that
we
have
in
our
in
our
zoning
toolbox?
If
you
will
our
land
use
toolbox,
and
so
what
the
public
benefit
associated
with
this
project
is
that
wallser
toyota
has
committed
to
moving
their
corporate
offices
from
edina.
They,
I
believe
they
lease
office
space
over
in
edina.
K
They
would
be
relocating
their
corporate
employees
to
this
new
shared
office
and
dealership
building,
and
so
walls
are
between
the
increases
of
both
sales
and
repair
staff,
but
also
adding
this
court.
Their
corporate
employees
to
this
facility
in
bloomington
wallser
is
currently
estimating
that
this
project
would
have
would
in
would
include
a
range
between
150
and
175
new
jobs
in
bloomington.
K
So
that's
very
significant
and
a
sound
public
benefit
argument.
Now
we'll
talk
about
the
phasing
again
in
a
minute.
The
public
benefit
is
based
on
them,
providing
that
additional
floor
area,
as
well
as
that
employment
and
performing
on
the
plan,
as
it's
currently
being
shown.
So
we'll
talk
about
phasing
agreements
and
performance
agreements,
and
things
like
that
and
again
I
just
hearken
back
to
that
history,
as
I
mentioned
before
as
to
why
this
is
a
particular
sticking
point
in
staff's
analysis.
K
If
the
the
project
performs,
it
certainly
has
strong
public
benefit
arguments
and
meets
the
other
criteria
for
regional
commercial
get
into
the
rezoning
we
in
the
with
the
action
last
a
year
that
many
of
you
were
on
the
board,
for
we
did
rezone
the
existing
wallser
parcel
from
the
cs:
0.5
zoning
district
2,
the
c1
zoning
district,
the
c1
district
is
the
zoning
district
that
was
really
developed
with
automobile
sales
facilities
in
mind.
It
has
specific
performance
standards
and
criteria
within
it
that
apply
to
motor
vehicle
sales
facilities.
K
K
So
with
that
land
use
designation,
so
it
certainly
would
be
compatible
with
the
comp
plan
in
terms
of
other
benefits
to
going
with
the
c1
district,
the
c1
zoning
district
has
minimum
floor
area
requirements
for
motor
vehicle
sales
facilities,
and
so
what
those
requirements
state
is
that
the
motor
vehicle
sales
facilities
can't
decrease.
In
far
they
can
certainly
increase,
but
they
can't
decrease
and
it
does
have
minimum
criteria
for
expansions
as
well
so
similar
to
re-guiding.
You
do
look
at
a
public
benefits
argument
and
again,
just
to
reiterate.
K
Automobile
sales
technically
is
allowed
in
the
cs05
district,
but
as
a
conditional
use,
but
the
fact
that
the
site
is
currently
guided
community
commercial
would
not
allow
walzer
to
pursue
a
conditional
use
permit
without
that
re-guiding
action.
So
we
do.
We
do
strongly
support
going
to
a
c1
zoning
district
and
again
this
applies
to
the
I
should
say
state.
This
applies
to
the
northern
four
fifths
of
the
site.
The
southern
150
feet
of
the
site
is
zoned
r1.
K
K
K
The
amount
of
the
site
that's
being
added
with
the
sensor
site
of
0.51,
so
it
does
meet
that
criteria
the
overall,
far
of
the
development
as
a
whole,
when
complete
would
increase
as
well,
and
that
would
be
0.24
and
under
these
c1
standards
they
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
reduce
that
further
on
down
the
line
get
into
the
specific
phasing
of
this
project.
So
this
is
your
first
look
at
the
site
plan.
K
And
so
what
it's
proposing
is
that
use
of
the
sensor
site
initially
is
only
allowed
on
an
interim
basis,
a
two-year
period,
and
that
would
be
contingent
upon.
In
other
words,
they
couldn't
start
utilizing
it
for
that
purpose
until
issuance
of
the
dealership
office
building
permit,
so
they
would
have
to
submit
for
and
get
approval
of,
the
building
permit
for
the
new
dealership
and
office
building
and
then
proof
of
deposit
on
major
structural
elements.
K
So
major
structural
elements
that
includes
the
steel,
the
other
building
materials
that
have
to
be
cast
and
manufactured
in
order
to
construct
the
building.
So,
typically,
when
you
acquire,
when
you
put
in
orders
for
those
types
of
materials,
they
typically
require
pretty
substantial
deposits
on
that
type
of
material.
K
There
is
some
built-in
flexibility
for
unseen
delays
with
respect
to
building
materials
or
other
or
other
things
that
may
occur.
It
would
be
up
to
the
discretion
as
it's
currently
drafted
to
the
community
development
director,
whether
to
allow
any
extension
of
that
interim
used
two-year
period
and
again
it
would
have
to
be
on
the
basis
of
walls,
are
demonstrating
that
they're
making
substantial
progress.
K
In
addition
to
this
element
of
the
kind
of
use
restrictions
of
the
sensor
site,
wallzer
is
to
provide
the
city
with
written
commitments.
Some
of
those
have
already
been
provided
to
to
us
the
the
commitment
from
walls
or
was
in
your
packet
with
respect
to
relocating
their
their
corporate
jobs
to
the
city
of
bloomington.
K
In
addition
to
that,
they
have
provided
staff
some
some
documents
from
toyota,
national
that
pertain
to
their
requirements
as
to
redeveloping
their
facility
to
a
more
modern
facility.
Again,
it
relates
to
that
issue.
I
brought
up
before
about
the
flag
and
the
requirements
to
be
allowed
to
be
a
dealer
for
toyota
and
then
finally,
just
additional
assurances
from
walls
or
financial
institutions
that
they're
able
to
perform
for
the
whole
project.
K
So
now
that
it
took
me
a
long
time
to
get
here,
I
apologize,
but
the
so
now
here
is
the
site
plan
before
you.
This
is
the
full
build
of
the
project
upon
completion
of
all
three
phases
of
construction.
So
again,
on
the
east
side
of
the
site,
you
do
have
phase
one.
You
have
the
three-story
parking
structure
with
roof
parking
in
the
central
portion
of
the
site.
You
have
the
three-story
dealership,
building
just
to
note
that
the
southern
portion
of
the
building
is
one
story.
K
It's
really
the
northern
half
of
the
building
that
has
the
three-story
components
and
then
surface
parking
on
the
west,
as
well
as
to
the
north
of
the
building
and
north
of
the
parking
structure.
Access
to
this
site
remains
relatively
similar
to
as
it
is
today,
there's
one
existing
dealership
for
walls
or
toyota.
That
would
just
be
shifted
just
slightly,
and
then
the
shared
access
in
the
northeast
portion
of
the
site
also
remains
wallser's.
Intention
with
these
site
plans
is
to
provide
you
a
code
complying
project
as
much
as
feasible.
K
K
K
I
know
in
previous
iterations
of
this
development
that
has
been
a
concern
on
the
part
of
the
neighborhood
to
the
south
that
that
berm
be
maintained,
and
this
project
does
not
does
not
propose
disruption
to
that
existing
factor
or
amenity.
That's
the
general
site
plan.
I
think
those
are
the
key
things
I
wanted
to
touch
on,
we'll
keep
moving
on
here
to
the
building
design.
K
There
is
a
request
made
by
walzer
to
allow
for
some
cable
railings
along
the
north
elevation.
I
will
have
a
slide
touching
on
what
pd
flexibilities
they
are
requesting
with
their
application,
but
this
just
provides
you
a
general
building
design
and
highlights
the
different
building
materials
that
they're
proposing
to
build
this
facility.
K
K
K
So
that's
the
crux
of
the
the
ground
level
of
the
facility,
the
second
and
third
level
have
more
office
oriented
uses.
There
is
more
part,
storage
on
level
two
here,
as
shown
other
than
that
it
does
provide.
It
also
provides
the
locker
room
and
employee
areas
for
all
their
staff
and
then
there's
quite
a
bit
of
conference
and
training
spaces
on
the
second
level
and
then
getting
to
the
third
level
itself.
K
You
have
offices,
lining
the
west
wall,
more
conference
and
training,
lining
the
east
wall
and
then
open
open
office
call
concept
throughout
the
remainder
of
the
top
floor.
The
third
floor
excuse
me
got
a
frog
in
my
throat
all
night
tonight
I
apologize
getting
to
building
height
so
similar
to
the
zoning
issue
with
split
zoning
on
these
sites.
This
site
actually
has
split
height
designations
on
it,
so
the
northern
portion
of
the
site
has
no
limit
height
designation.
K
So
at
the
tallest
portion
of
that
part
of
the
facility
you're,
looking
at
just
under
50
feet
in
height,
just
to
note
the
portion-
that
is,
I
guess,
in
closer
proximity
to
the
residential
areas,
to
the
south.
That
portion
of
the
building
is
25
feet,
just
under
25
feet
in
height,
and
then
you
get
into
the
parking
structure.
K
The
majority
of
the
parking
structure
is
around
46
and
a
half
feet
in
height.
There
are
some
stair
towers
on
the
the
stair
tower
and
which
includes
that
second
level
skyway
on
that
more
substantial
stair
tower
that
does
rise
to
a
height
of
57
feet
in
height
or
just
under
58
feet.
Again,
that's
in
the
northern
portion,
where
there
is
no
limit
on
the
southern
portion.
They
are
proposing
a
stair
tower
that
gets
to
52
and
a
half
feet
in
height.
K
So
that
would
be
a
deviation
and
I'll
chat
more
on
that
just
here
in
a
minute,
but
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
structure
heights
proposed
with
this
facility
getting
to
parking
at
a
motor
vehicle
sales
facility.
It's
often
the
case
or
common
that
they
far
exceed
our
parking
requirements
for
these
uses,
because
certainly
they
have
a
keen
interest
to
provide
a
lot
of
motor
vehicle
inventory
and,
in
some
cases
in
terms
of
the
design,
particularly
the
parking
structure.
K
K
In
terms
of
you
know,
designated
spaces
of
inventory
versus
customer
employee.
Obviously
they
have
to
maintain
the
code
requirement
at
a
minimum
level
for
the
customer,
employee
and
the
repair
parking
spaces.
The
rest
can
be
inventory,
it's
up
to
walls
or
how
they
want
to
designate
that
so
long
as
it
meets
other
code
requirements.
K
Requirements
for
off-street
parking
supply-
and
so
that's
what's
being
shown
to
you
here
in
the
yellow,
highlighted
stalls-
is
that
walzer
would
dedicate
these
19
stalls
located
on
the
sensor
site
to
the
adjoining
properties
to
the
east
and
then
the
stahls
in
orange.
These
are
actually
existing
parking
stalls
that
exist
today.
K
The
walls
are-
and
I
should
say-
on
the
sensors
site
and
the
hotel
site
and
this
again
harkens
back
to
their
the
history
of
their
approval,
but
they
had
a
a
10
stall
shared
parking
easement
in
this
location
that
allowed
the
hotel
and
the
restaurant
to
share
those
spaces
so
they're
proposing
to
keep
that
agreement
in
place
and
that's
why
those
stalls
remain
there
in
terms
of
the
landscape
plan,
they
are
showing
a
code
compliant
amount
of
landscaping
at
this
project,
so
the
quantities
are
good.
Two
small
things.
K
A
couple
parking
islands
are
missing
the
necessary
trees.
The
code
requires,
so
they
would
need
to
correct
that
and
our
the
city's
supplemental
landscaping
policy
does
require
that
buildings
facing
public
frontages
have
50
of
those
foundations,
have
foundation
plantings
so
currently
they're
not
showing
any
landscaping
along
the
front
side
of
the
dealership
and
office
building.
So
they
would
need
to
provide
some
small
beds
or
some
plantings
in
those
areas.
K
One
other
comment
about
landscaping.
In
our
previous
review.
In
last
year,
the
representative
of
the
fountain
lake
condominiums
development
did
request
that
evergreen
plantings
be
provided
along
this
western
boundary.
Now,
obviously,
with
that
previous
application,
the
the
parking
structure
was
located
much
closer
to
that
boundary
than
this
current
plan.
But
that
being
said,
I
guess
they
are
showing
evergreens
in
that
location.
K
K
Getting
to
that
height
deviation,
so
there's
only
two
deviations
associated
with
this
application.
That
waltzer
is
requesting,
as
opposed
to
just
non-conforming
issues
that
just
need
to
be
corrected,
and
so
one
of
them
has
to
do
with
this
modest
encroachment
into
the
maximum
height
requirement
at
the
southern
portion
of
the
parking
ramp.
So
if
you
see
on
the
left
side
of
the
slide,
these
this
is
the
dealership
building
and
the
parking
structure.
And
what
I
outlined
in
green
is
those
are
the
portions
of
those
structures
that
comply
with
the
city's
maximum
height
requirements.
K
It's
only
the
small
stair
tower
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
parking
structure
that
would
not
comply
and
that's
again
on
the
basis
of
exceeding
that
maximum
height
requirement
by
two
and
a
half
feet,
so
it's
very
modest
or
minor
both
in
vertical
encroachment,
but
also
in
the
overall
area.
We're
talking
about
a
262
square
foot
area,
it's
just
the
stair
tower
and
what
informs
that
is
that
walls
are
certainly
could
provide
an
unenclosed
stair
tower
and
meet
the
height
requirement.
K
In
terms
of
the
this
cable
railings
request
so
technically
for
parking
structures,
parking
structures
have
to
be
designed
in
a
way
that
blocks
vehicle
headlights,
and
this
came
up
with
their
request
last
year
as
well.
But
it's
as
it
turns
out
the
vehicles
that
face
american
boulevard
and
494
for
walzer.
Those
are
really
intended
to
be
display,
vehicles
or
showpieces
that
obviously
advertise
their
product.
K
These
vehicles
are
likely
to
not
move
a
terrible
amount,
and
so,
when
we're
thinking
about
blocking
headlights,
obviously
it's
vehicle
movements
number
one,
but
also
you
know
thinking
about
the
elevation
of
those
vehicles
and
what
they're
shining
out
onto
you
know.
494
is
a
good
distance
away
from
where
this
this
structure
will
be,
and
then
at
such
a
height
that
it
really
should
not
provide
a
substantial
disturbance.
K
So
if
these
vehicles
are
not
moving
very
often
and
there's
not
a
neighbor
that
can
be
negatively
impact
impacted
staff
is
supportive
of
foregoing
the
the
vehicle
headlight
screening
just
on
this
northern
elevation.
So
what
we've
recommended
to
you
is
there
is
a
condition
that
vehicle
headlights
be
screened
per
the
code
requirement
on
all
building
elevations
of
the
parking
structure
except
the
northern
elevation.
K
The
plaid
is
fairly
self-explanatory
again,
just
combining
those
two
parcels
they
would
have
to
comply
with
all
the
standard
conditions
and
requirements
of
any
plat
park,
dedication
providing
the
necessary
easements
and
those
types
of
things
so
just
work
with
our
engineering
staff
to
pursue
that
in
terms
of
operational
requirements.
This
is
there
are
specific
performance
standards
in
code
for
motor
vehicle
sales
facilities.
K
Wash
car
washes
can
be
notorious
for
being
high
noise
generators,
and
so
I
would
urge
the
architect
and
their
design
team
to
look
at
ways
of
mitigating
that
noise
requirement,
and
I
believe
we
identified
that
code
section
in
city
code.
So
if
they
wanted
to
look
at
that
or
have
an
acoustical
expert
look
at
that
to
ensure
that
they
remain
in
compliance
of
that
in
terms
of
vehicle
repair,
vehicle
repair
cannot
occur
outside
it
has
to
occur
within
the
enclosed
facility
and
vehicles
awaiting
repair
have
to
be.
You
know,
parked
and
stored
in
correct
locations.
K
K
I
cannot
go
on
local
residential
streets.
You
know
in
this
location.
That
would
be
an
unlikely
scenario
anyway,
but
I'm
just
a
state
that
code
clearly
prohibits
that
from
occurring
and
vehicle
loading
and
loading.
There
are
restrictions
in
terms
of
time
of
when
vehicles
can
be
loaded
on
and
loaded
on,
the
basis
of
this
site
being
located
in
proximity
to
residential
uses.
So
those
are
things
that
they'd
have
to
abide
by
on
an
ongoing
basis.
K
K
Staff
would
urge
them
to
try
and
lower
the
proposed
lighting
level
that
they
are
showing,
although
staff
will
be
diligent
at
ensuring
that
they
have
the
necessary
90-degree
cutoff
fixtures
that
city
code
requires
to
ensure
dark
sky
design.
Just
to
know
the
lighting
on
top
of
the
structure,
parking
structure
is
only
12
feet
in
height.
So
that's
a
positive
thing
in
terms
of
and
its
effect
on
surrounding
properties.
K
The
trash
and
recycling
storage
facility
was
not
identified
in
the
architectural
plans.
They
do
need
to
have
interior
trash
and
recycling
storage.
So
that's
just
an
architectural
update
and
as
per
always
with
all
developments,
any
rooftop
mechanical
equipment
must
be
screened
to
adjoining
streets
and
sidewalks.
So
we
have
received
two
emails
on
this
project.
K
So
we
traffic
staff
has
looked
at
american
boulevard.
You
know
overall
I'll.
Let
them
speak
for
themselves,
but
I
believe
brian
hansen's,
on
the
call,
if
there's
questions,
but
overall,
the
traffic
generation
by
this
development,
when
you
consider
the
existing
restaurant,
the
existing
dealership,
it
close
close
to
comes
out
to
a
wash
believe
it
or
not,
with
the
new
facility
replace
the
expanded
facility
replacing
the
existing
facility
in
the
existing
restaurant.
K
B
F
K
Yeah,
chairman
solberg,
commissioner
cookton,
that's
that's
a
fair
comment
for
sure
I
don't
know
offhand
the
full
extent
of
the
employment
at
the
censors
restaurant.
Obviously
it's
a
larger
restaurant,
so
I
would
imagine
that
the
employment
of
the
sensors
restaurant
was
not
insubstantial.
So
I
don't
want
to
gloss
over
that
associated
with
relocating
the
the
walls
or
corporate
jobs
to
the
area
it
exceeds
the
number
of
the
existing
employment
of
the
sensors.
Restaurant
would
be
my
guess,
but
in
addition
to
that
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of.
K
K
So
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
that-
and
I
think
secondarily
what
I'd
say
is
that
you
know
relocating
a
substantial
number
of
office.
Jobs
tend
to
really
buttress
and
support
the
local,
retail
and
service
markets
as
well,
because
there's
a
pretty
substantial
domino
effect.
If
you
know,
pending
post
pandemic,
world
people
are
going
to
be
traveling
in
bloomington
shopping
in
bloomington
and
utilizing
other
restaurants
and
services
in
bloomington.
K
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
to
commissioner
coopton.
That
was
one
of
my
exact
questions,
so
I
appreciate
that
my
other
question
is
regarding
the
in
and
out
on
american
boulevard,
and
I
tried
to
look
there
at
this
site
plan,
but,
mr
johnson,
it
looks
as
though
the
in
and
out
on
american
boulevard
is
decreasing
in
width.
K
Yeah,
chairman
solberg,
commissioner
albrecht,
that's
correct.
The
western
driveway
is
narrowing.
Currently
they
have
a
two-lane
two
lanes
of
traffic
on
the
inbound
west
hand
side.
So
I'm
talking
about
the
western
driveway
and
then
there's
one
outbound
lane
on
the
east
side,
but
they
also
have
this
median,
which
they,
you
know,
typically
have
put
signage
and
other
elements
in
that
median
area.
So
you're
correct
that
in
the
new
site
plan
that
would
narrow
just
two.
K
B
All
right
other
commissioners
with
questions.
Otherwise
a
couple
for
you,
mr
just
because
you
did
refer,
I
think
changes
from
the
previous
application
that
was
before
us.
You
referred
to
lighting
on
the
on
the
roof,
and
it's
at
12
feet
is
that
the
minimum
height
or
maximum
height
for
lighting
on
the
roof
of
the
facility.
K
K
So
even
if
they
were
subject
to
our
standard
of
being
in
close
proximity
to
residential,
which
I
believe
londell
could
correct
me,
I
believe
it's
within
300
feet
or
so,
but
the
the
maximum
height
that
they
could
go
to
potentially
would
be
33
feet
and
even
if
they
were
held
to
that,
more
strict
standard
than
the
maximum
height
would
be
28
feet,
and
that
goes
to
the
height
of
the
luminaire.
The
tallest
portion
of
the
pole
and
the
light
all
at
28
feet.
So
12
feet
is
a
substantial
I
mean.
K
B
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
johnson.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
I
know
that
was
an
issue
of
discussion
in
a
last
application
on
this
particular
process,
but
then
a
next
question
I
really
have
for
you
is
really
about.
You
mentioned
the
noise
and
the
car
wash
associated
with
that
just
want
to
clarify,
because
we
have
had
some
of
these
acoustical
issues
brought
up
in
past
applications,
clarify
who's
responsible
for
enforcing
any
noise
ordinance
or
any
issues
associated
with
that
any
noise
from
the
facility.
K
K
So
what
they
would
be
going
out
there
to
do
is
to
confirm
whether
or
not
the
the
noise
levels
of
that
facility
are
exceeding
the
it's
called
the
l10.
That's
like
more
than
10
minutes
in
any
given
hour
standard
beyond
a
certain
decibel
level
for
that
type
of
facility,
so
they
would
go
out
there.
They
would
take
readings.
They
would
work
with
walzer
to
establish
what
the
noise
levels
were
and
then,
if
they
were
not
in
compliance,
walzer
would
have
to
do
some
mitigation
on
some
level.
B
B
K
Yeah,
thank
you.
Chairman
solberg
code
requires
trees
be
planted
in
islands,
so
they're
not
they're,
not
shrubs.
There
are
shrubs
in
some
islands
to
be
sure,
but
yes,
we
have
gotten
that
feedback,
particularly
on
inventory,
only
lots
that
you
know
that
it
can
create
some
dust
or
debris
or
other
nuisance
characteristics
for
vehicles.
Obviously,
they're
trying
to
make
them
look
sharp
so
that
you
walk
off
the
lot
with
them
right.
B
K
Chairman
of
yours.
Yes,
if
I
may
make
your
your
comment
about
your
comment
about
lighting
spurred
one
other
just
thought
pattern
that
I
wanted
to
raise-
that
I
forgot
in
my
presentation.
But
if
you
consider
the
plan
that
was
approved
last
year,
you
know
with
the
the
parking
structure
more
in
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site
while
it
you
know
it
may
affect
different
properties
differently.
K
K
So
if
you,
if
you
just
look
at
this
general
area,
you've
got
these
kind
of
properties
right
across
the
channel.
You
know
certainly
there's
still
properties
that
will
be
able
to
see
these
structures
without
a
doubt.
I'm
not
going
to
pretend
that,
but
moving
that
parking
structure
to
the
east
side
of
the
site,
from
my
in
my
judgment,
does
kind
of
lessen
some
of
that
immediate
building,
massing
and
structure
impact
that,
I
think
was
maybe
a
kind
of
more
substantial
on
the
west
side
of
the
site.
E
Thanks,
mr
chair,
one
of
the
things
that
I
had
a
question
about
is
minimum
set
acts
within
this
district,
so
I
know
in
a
lot
of
the
other
applications
that
we've
seen
we
like
to
have
the
building
as
far
forward
to
the
property
line
to
the
north
as
possible
to
that
street,
and
I
see
that
this
is
set
back.
So
what
is
the
setback
for
this
district
and
how
does
that
apply
to
this?
This
development
plan.
K
K
So
that's
a
that's
a
minimum
setback
requirement.
They
could
have
this
building
located
further
to
the
north.
Without
a
doubt
they
could
do
that,
but
I
think
it
has.
I
think
it
has
more
to
do
with
their
construction
phasing
and
then
than
so
much
of
you
know
and
front
field
parking.
Probably
some
inventory
would
be
my
guess
as
well,
but
I
believe
that
part
of
it
somewhat
has
to
do
with
construction
phasing
as
well.
K
So
it's
a
35
foot
front
setback
this
I
should
note
this
district
doesn't
have,
is
it's
kind
of
similar
this
or
the
opposite
of
our
b4
and
c5
and
other
our
mixed
use?
Districts
have
maximum
building
setbacks,
the
c1
district
doesn't
have
a
maximum
building
setback,
so
all
they
have
to
do
is
meet
the
minimum.
A
I
I
Thank
you
for
your
time.
It
was
a
long
presentation
nick,
but
I
appreciate
that
you
did
it
and
I
got
out
of
doing
it.
So
thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
of
comments
on
questions.
If
you
look
nick
down
on
the,
I
don't
know,
if
you've
seen
the
screen,
if
you
could
call
up
the
service
shop
there,
we
had
a
question
about
indoor
trash
and,
and
I
wanted
to
show
them.
I
I
I
I
We
raise
the
benefit
of
the
solar
energy
to
melt
the
ice
that
comes
out
with
the
car
as
they
drip
off
so,
but
but
we
understand
the
city's
desire
to
be
good
leaders
and
we
will
work
with
you,
nick
and
the
city
engineers
and
those
people
to
be
a
good
neighbor
for
for
this.
So
I
wanted
to
so
with
that.
I
think
that's.
I
I
just
picked
on
one
last
thing
I'll
be
done
in
terms
of
census
restaurant.
Since
his
restaurant
was
closed,
you
may
have
found
another
user
to
reopen
it,
but
the
pandemic
really
took
the
business
down
with
it,
so
so
that
any
job
grass
there
is
theoretical.
We
wouldn't
cleanse
the
restaurant.
They
were
closing
either
way.
I
The
only
advantage
this
plan
has
is
the
significant
advantage
of
what
I
brought
you
a
year
ago
before
the
pandemic.
Fitness
is,
we
have
a
slightly
larger
rail
and
the
larger
on-grade
parking
amount
here
gives
us
what
we
need
to
add
that
third
floor
and
corporate
office,
so
the
new
combined
site,
why
we're
able
to
fully
commit
to
bringing
walls
or
corporate
jobs
to
this
location.
We
like
the
prestige
of
having
our
flagship
store
with
the
corporate
office
in
a
highly
visible
location
in
your
city,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
that.
I
I
The
production
of
the
actual
ramp
pieces
is
scheduled
to
start
in
late
june
and
we're
very
excited
for
the
project.
We
appreciate
working
with
the
city
to
give
the
city
the
assurances
that
they
were
looking
for
walter's
committed
to
bloomington
and
would
respectfully
request
your
approval
of
all
our
requests
here.
I
I
B
Thank
you,
mr
phillips.
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
your
ability
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
were
brought
up
to
mr
johnson
during
our
discussion
a
little
bit
earlier,
and
I
appreciate
that
very
much.
Commissioner
members.
Is
there
any
questions
or
are
there
any
questions
for
mr
phillips.
H
I
B
B
B
B
D
B
E
B
B
I
will
maybe
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
start
here
a
little
bit.
Clearly
we
had
this
application
or
a
similar
application
about
a
year
ago.
We
heard
a
lot
of
questions
I
think
from
the
public.
At
that
point,
I
feel,
like
the
application
in
front
of
us
has
been
proactive
in
addressing
any
of
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
in
the
last
application.
B
As
far
as
the
again
the
the
requests
in
front
of
us,
I
think
the
plan
development
proposals
are
relative
or
requests
are
relatively
minor
and
again
we
we
did
move
a
year
ago
that
the
auto
sales
facility
was
appropriate
in
this
location.
Now
we're
being
asked
to
look
at
the
additional
space
that
would
be
required
to
make
this
facility
and
the
public
benefit,
and
I
believe
it
meets
the
thresholds.
B
E
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
would
fill
your
statement
and
then
just
add
that
I'm
excited
to
see
that
their
corporate
reporters
are
moving
to
bloomington,
so
prior
applications
was
sales
and
service
staff
associated
with
the
toyota
brand
and
dealership,
but
having
a
corporate
office
added
to
the
city
of
bloomington
just
adds
more
to
this
application.
So,
overall
I
I
like
this
application
better
than
the
one
I
approved
last
year
and
I'm
excited
to
see
those
jobs
coming
to
our
city.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
to
my
question
to
mr
johnson.
Earlier
regarding
jobs
gained
versus
jobs
lost.
I
would
just
like
to
ask
staff
that,
on
future
applications,
where
we
see
an
argument
for
public
benefit,
that
jobs
are
added
if
we
could
see
sort
of
a
net
value
of
jobs
lost.
If
that
is
the
case,
recognizing
that
censors
was
closed
and
that
that's
no
fault
of
the
applicants
in
this
case,
but
I
think
that
would
be
good
information
for
this
commission.
In
future
cases,.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
too
will
echo
commissioner
cook
dunn's
request
for
that
job
data
be
very
curious
to
know
my
guess
would
be
that
there
would
be
a
higher
number
of
jobs
versus
being
the
censor
site,
but
who
knows
so
just
yeah?
Out
of
curiosity,
I
think
that
would
be
great
information
to
have
regarding
the
site
plan.
I
think
this
is
an
improvement
from
what
we
saw
in
2020.
D
Moving
the
parking
structure
to
the
east
side
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and,
in
fact,
is
further
away
from
the
condominiums
who
were
worried
about
the
headlights,
noise,
etc.
So
this,
I
think
they
the
developer.
The
architect
has
taken
the
public
testimony
into
account,
and
I
think
this,
like
commissioner
goldsmith
said,
is
an
improvement
and
I'm
in
full
support.
The
one
thing
that
I
do
want
to
mention
is:
I
do
also
appreciate
the
narrowing
of
the
in
and
out
off
of
american
boulevard,
just
regarding
pedestrian
feel
along
american
boulevard.
D
There
are
people
who
live
in
this
area
and
clearly
we
heard
from
some
of
them
in
the
letter
to
walk
along
american
boulevard.
I
think
a
narrow,
narrower
entrance
and
and
exit
makes
it
makes
cars
slow
down,
pay
more
attention
and
they're
make
therefore
making
the
pedestrian
experience
a
lot
better.
So
I
do
appreciate
that
and
wanted
to
call
that
out
as
well,
and
that
is
all
that
I
have
so
I'm
in
support.
Thank
you.
J
H
H
I
also
don't
find
that
to
be
a
problematic
deviation
that,
like
I
can
never
say
never,
but
I
don't
envision
any
scenario
whereby
anything
will
be
built
between
that
rail
and
the
freeway,
so
I
don't
think
it'll
be
an
intrusion
which
is
what
that
standard
is
meant
to
prevent.
This
is
a
project
that
I
would
like
to
see.
Hopefully
this
is
the
last
time
we
see
it.
It's
a
little
bit
of
the
groundhog
day
of
projects
with
the
commission,
so
hopefully,
with
the
office.
H
B
B
The
party
parking
structure
must
be
designated
to
block
vehicle
headlights
at
minimum
height,
consistent
with
the
minnesota
building
code
on
all
floors
and
elevations,
except
for
the
northern
elevation,
and
I
think
mr
phillips
brought
up
the
fact
that
that
cable
would
wrap
at
least
on
the
west
corner,
so
be
thinking
about
that
commissioners.
As
part
of
this,
as
this
moves
forward,
commissioner
cook
done,
you
had
your
hand
up.
F
I
did
but
it's
unrelated
to
the
cable
railing.
If
you
want
to
stay,
that's
fine!
Okay!
I
would
actually
like
to
ask
mr
johnson
a
question
regarding
the
height
variants
being
requested
just
for
public
benefit.
Sometimes
this
commission
is
very
strict
on
allowing
increases
in
height
in
certain
applications
this
one
with
pd
flexibility.
F
K
Yeah,
absolutely
chairman
solberg,
commissioner
cook
down
thanks
for
the
opportunity
number
one.
I
think
what
you're
going
to
evaluate
with
any
variance
or
request
for
pd
flexibility
is
the
scale
or
extent
of
the
encroachment
or
increase
in
terms
of
going
beyond
what
code
allows
in
this
case,
we're
talking
about
a
two
and
a
half
foot
encroachment.
So
in
the
scale
of
a
you
know,
50
foot
tall
building,
it's
it's
very
modest
in
terms
of
the
overall
impact
of
it.
K
In
addition
to
that,
the
stair
tower
itself
is
a
very
small
or
minor
portion
of
the
structure.
It's
not
as
if
they
are
proposing
this
height
continuously
along
the
full
southern
elevation,
so
those
are
kind
of
gets
to
the
ext,
the
kind
of
extent
or
the
amount
of
the
encroachment
side
of
the
analysis.
K
F
Yeah,
mr
chair
thanks,
mr
johnson,
maybe
you
could
just
clear
for
clarify
for
me:
can
you
explain
why
we
may
or
may
not
have
more
discretion
in
this
case
to
allow
that
variance
as
opposed
to
another
case?
Because
again
sometimes
we
say
because
when
I
was
looking
at
the
plan
view
of
that,
I
mean
certainly
the
stair
tower.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
it
could
have
been
shifted
north
and
been
code
compliant,
and
so
why
don't
we?
Why
don't?
K
Sorry
about
that
that
boils
down
to
the
basis
of
you
know
what
type
of
findings
do
you
have
to
make
for
a
variance
versus
a
pd
flexibility,
the
threshold
or
bar
that
you
have
to
reach,
for
a
variance
is
higher
than
that
of
a
pd
flexibility
in
terms
of
the
practical
difficulties
test
versus
public
benefit
test
and
the
pd
specifically
states
that
flexibility
can
be
considered
that
results
in
enhanced
design.
In
our
opinion,
enclosed
versus
unenclosed
is
an
enhanced
design
in
terms
of
moving
the
stair
tower
further
to
the
north.
K
K
Certainly,
mr
phillips
might
be
able
to
speak
to
that
better
than
I,
but
again,
just
given
the
modest
given
the
modest
extent
of
the
2.5
feet
above
the
maximum
height
limit,
and
then
the
modest
size
of
the
stair
tower
itself
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
the
lesser
bar
or
findings
that
have
to
be
met
for
pd
flexibility.
It
was
just
something
where
it
was
something
that
was
supported
by
staff.
So
hopefully
that
provides
a
more
fuller
explanation.
K
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
was
just
gonna
speak
to
the
question
about
the
cable
wrap
and
I
appreciate
the
applicant
being
straightforward
with
that
and
I'm
bringing
that
up.
I
don't
necessarily
know
that
I
find
that
to
be
an
issue
given
the
intention
of
how
the
cars
are
intended
to
be
part.
My
my
understanding
from
what
I
see
in
the
schematics
is
that
you
know
they
want
as
many
cars
facing
north
as
possible,
and
so
my
assumption
is
based
on
that
that
those
east-west
wraps
would
not
have
headlights
since
young
enough.
H
But
again
these
cars
are
not
coming
and
going
multiple
times
during
the
day
on
the
west
side,
they
would
face
the
dealership
building
and
on
the
east
side
they
would
face
the
parking
lot
for
the
denny.
So
I
don't
know
if
you're
thinking
that
we
need
some
different
language
on
the
condition
for
that
or
if
there's
enough
independent
approval
in
the
planning
department
to
take
care
of
that.
But
to
your
question
I
don't
find
it
to
be
a
major
problem
per
se.
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
roman.
I
our
commissioner
roman.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
as
the
commission,
everybody
understood
that
and
for
staff
as
that
would
wrap-
and
I
don't
know
what
the
distance
might
be-
10
feet
or
12
feet.
Is
that
incidental
to
the
condition
or
do
we
need
to
make
changes
if
this
moves
forward
as
proposal
as
approval.
K
Yeah,
chairman
solberg,
I
mean
my
suggestion
would
be
if,
if
the
planning
commission
is
okay
with
the
cable
railings,
that's
currently
being
proposed
or
shown
by
the
applicant,
we
can
certainly
revise
or
amend
the
condition
on
the
staff
level
to
ensure
that
it
meets
that
intent.
It's
condition,
number
condition
number
21.,
so
21.
B
F
K
E
K
B
I
I
125
feet:
south,
I
think
nick's
description
is
correct.
I
I
want
to
point
out
that
it's,
the
only
oven
that
is
running
out
is
the
roof
parking
and
that
does
not
have
any
cable
there.
That
has
your
headlight
protection
on
all
four
sides.
That's
where
the
employees
would
park
the
the
parking
on
the
second
three
levels
when
the
front
corners
are
really
stationary
cars.
Unless
we
sell
them.
If
we
sell
that
one
particular
reda
corona,
we
would
go
up
and
move
it,
but
it's
storage.
I
I
B
Yes
appreciate
that,
mr
phillips
for
clarifying
the
answer
for
us
that
it's
just
the
first
20
feet
on
east
and
west
side
and
that
the
upper
ramp
has
the
barrier
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right
does
that
help
answer
part
of
the
question,
because
that
really
is
a
parking
bay.
Nothing
would
be
facing
east
or
west
at
that.
If
I
see
the
parking
schematic
correctly.
F
Yeah
thanks
mr
chair,
I
guess
I
do
have
concerns
about
us
approving
that
this
evening,
because
there
also
is
there
a
drive
aisle
there
as
well,
that
could
shine
headlights.
I'm
not
really
sure
I
get
a
little
anxious
about
this
commission
sort
of
designing
from
the
dais.
If
you
will
in
just
a
few
minutes
here,
I
guess
my
preference
would
be
that
we
have
something
in
our
condition
that
says
if
staff
is
okay
with
it,
perhaps
we're
okay
with
it
or
you
know.
F
Maybe
staff
looks
at
this
before
it
gets
to
council
and
have
f
council.
Take
a
look
at
that.
I'm
anxious
about
just
approving
that
without
somebody
having
a
good
set
of
eyes
on
it,
not
that
I'm
accusing
the
applicant
of
ill
intent,
but
I
mean
I
am
seeing
a
dry
aisle
there
and
I
would
hate
to
see
us,
incidentally,
approve
headlights
going
on
to
that
hotel
in
a
short
time
frame.
K
Sherman
solberg,
if
I
may,
this
is
nick
johnson
just
to
clarify
what
I
brought
up
here
on
my
screen.
This
is
the
floor
plan
and
I
think
just
to
showing
to
what
I
think
the
architect's
intent
and
what
he
was
attempting
to
describe
is
that
you
can
see.
This
is
the
second
floor
of
the
ramp.
These
are
the
north
facing
vehicles
which
are
you
know
under
display
where
you
can
see
the
cable
railing.
K
There's
actually
a
call
out
note,
so
the
cable
railing
would
terminate
in
that
20
foot,
dimension
or
18
feet
here
showed
on
the
plan,
but
the
east
west
oriented
parking
spaces
have
the
typical
headlight
screening,
whereas
the
cable
railing
stops
short
here.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
mouse
or
not,
but
it
stops
right
there
and
there
and
then
the
parking
moves
along
from
there.
So
hopefully
that
sheds
a
little
more
light
on
it.
B
Thank
you,
mr
johnson
yeah.
I
think
seeing
this
I
I
don't
have
a
concern,
as
maybe
other
commissioners
might,
that
the
cable
rail
is
really
intended
for
viewing
of
the
parking
or
the
drive
aisle
while
may
have
a
very
limited
number
or
amount
of
light
that
shines
past
the
rail.
It's
not
intended
to
give
any
headlights
in
that
drivey
aisle
anything
that
can
be
seen
outside
the
building.
H
Commissioner
roman,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
I'm
being
mindful
of
commissioner
cookton's
good
advice
of
us
not
trying
to
play
architect
on
the
fly
and
trying
to
think
of
mr
marker
guards
that
it
would
be
good
to
have
language
clarifying.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
if
the
body
is
comfortable
with
us
talking
about
that
the
the
wrap
is
permissible,
but
not
farther
than
would
encroach
into
a
drive
aisle
or
a
parking
facing
the
no
parking
could
face
the
the
cable.
I
don't
know.
B
You,
commissioner,
roman,
I
think
you,
you
probably
just
said
it,
the
intent
being
that
cars
in
the
drive,
aisle
would
be
able
headlights
would
be
able
to
be
seen
outside
the
building,
while
they're
in
the
drive
aisle
or
something
to
that
attempt.
The
parking
clearly
is
indicating
drawing
as
being
behind
the
wall.
It's
really
a
question
of
the
drive
island
from
what
I'm
seeing.
H
The
question
I
guess
would
be
that
if
the
the
visuals
the
schematics
presented
here
are
sufficient
oreo,
my
colleagues
feel
like
we
should
have
something
more
specific
to
address
that.
I
I
personally
am
comfortable
with
the
schematics
I
see,
but
from
a
staff
perspective
if
that's
sufficient
to
enforce
on
permits.
A
F
Yeah
thanks
mr
chair,
I
was
wondering
if
commissioner
roman
or
others
would
be
amenable
to
a
modification
of
that
number
21
to
include
something
about.
We
approve
that
upon
a
positive
recommendation
from
staff
that
way
they
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
see
anything
that
they
see
and
that
sort
of
covers
us,
or
is
that
I'll
just
throw
that
out?
There.
H
E
B
B
B
J
B
All
right,
commission
members,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
in
front
of
us
to
recommend
approval
of
an
ordinance
rezoning,
4217
american
boulevard
west,
except
the
southern
150
feet
thereof
from
cs
0.5,
pd
to
c-1
pd,
any
further
discussion,
seeing
no
further
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
say
I
by
roll
call,
commissioner
goldsman
aye,
commissioner
mccorman
aye,
commissioner
roman
aye,
commissioner.
J
B
B
A
D
In
case
pl2021-42,
having
been
able
to
make
the
required
findings,
I
moved
to
recommend
approval
of
preliminary
and
final
development
plans
for
a
three-story,
approximately
122
000
square
foot,
motor
vehicle
sales
and
office
facility,
with
a
three-story
parking
structure,
with
roof
parking
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report,
with
the
addition
of
inco
in
condition.
21.
B
E
D
B
D
B
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Albrecht
all
right.
Commissioners,
we
have
a
motion
in
front
of
us.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner,
roman?
Second,
all
right,
commission
members,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
in
front
of
us
motion
being
having
been
able
to
make
the
required
findings,
moved
to
recommend
approval
of
the
preliminary
and
final
plat
of
p.a
wallser
second
edition,
subject
to
the
conditions
and
code
requirements
attached
to
the
staff
report.
Any
further
discussion,
not
seeing
any
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
by
roll
call.
Commissioner
goldsman.
E
B
Hi
all
right
I
for
myself
motion
passes,
will
move
to
these
items
we'll
go
to
the
june
17th
planning
commission,
which
will
be
a
public
hearing
all
right
so
again
for
the
public.
This
will
move
to
the
june
17th
city
council
and
it
will
be
a
public
hearing
all
right.
Moving
on
commission
members
to
item
number
four
self
storage
standards-
and
I
believe
mr
james
has
a
staff
report
for
us.
A
A
Okay,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started,
then.
So
this
item
was
before
you
a
couple
months
ago
on
march
11th
and
since
then
it
went
to
city
council
at
two
different
meetings
and
so
before
you
tonight
there's
a
revised
ordinance
reflecting
council's
direction
and
then
just
quick
reminder.
There
is
an
existing
self-storage
moratorium.
It's
set
to
expire
after
one
year,
which
ends
june
22nd.
A
They
wanted
staff
to
return
with
analysis
about
options
such
as
you
know,
an
outright
prohibition
on
self-storage
throughout
the
whole
city
or
ideas
around
what
a
limit
per
capita
would
look
like,
and
so,
after
that
april,
5th
meeting
staff
also
met
and
brainstormed.
You
know
a
few
other
options
to
bring
to
them
at
the
may
3rd
meeting.
A
So
just
quick
background
here,
you'll
recall
staff
put
together
a
study
last
year,
identifying
key
issues
that
included
having
having
a
disproportionate
supply
of
self-storage
in
the
city
compared
to
our
neighbors.
The
use
does
generate
lower
commercial
activity,
employment
activity
is
low
in
these
larger
buildings
and
the
height
and
lighting
of
these
newer
facilities
really
impacts.
Adjacent
residential
and
blue
is
where
we
allow
self
storage
today.
If
there
was
no
moratorium
and
then
we
have
nine
self
storage
facilities,
those
are
the
yellow
dots
on
the
screen
again.
A
A
The
baseline
then
was
to
prohibit
in
transit
station
areas,
so
it's
a
half-mile
area
around
transit
stations
prohibit
in
areas
designated
as
protected
industrial
by
the
comprehensive
plan
and
then
a
structure
setback
for
storage
facilities
that
are
within
500
feet
of
residential
or
rather
of
the
facility.
The
building
could
not
be
within
500
feet
of
residential
properties
and
then
also
a
prohibition
on
parcels
adjacent
to
lindale
avenue.
A
So
at
the
last
meeting,
planning
commission
recommended
a
couple.
Modifications
to
this
one
was
to
reduce
that
distance
from
residential
to
250
feet
and
then
to
allow
a
rather
to
prohibit
self-storage
only
in
the
86th
street
and
98th
street
nodes
to
allow
elsewhere
on
than
dale,
but
with
no
more
design
standards.
A
A
But
they
also
preferred
to
prohibit
in
all
of
the
parcels
in
that
lindell
study
area.
So
it's
highlighted
in
the
hatched
area
on
the
screen
here
in
this
area.
Council
was
especially
concerned
about
future
impacts
of
self-storage
in
the
event
that
this
area
sees
more
residential
or
commercial
activities.
A
So
then,
if
we
only
look
at
you
know
the
parcels
or
portions
of
parcels
remaining
after
all
the
prohibitions,
we're
left
with
those
blue
areas
on
the
screen,
there's
a
couple
sites
north
of
494
to
the
west.
That
would
be
viable
large
enough
sites,
there's
somewhat
of
a
site
north
of
civic
plaza.
However,
a
portion
of
that
is
the
public
works
building
today
and
then
we've
got
a
few
sites
up
along
american
boulevard,
just
west
of
nicolette
avenue.
A
A
A
A
So,
since
that
last
march
and
april
meetings
with
council
staff
did
send
one
additional
letter
to
property
owners
to
update
them
on
the
status
and
process.
Thus
far,
we've
received
a
couple
items
of
correspondence.
We've
also
provided
meeting
notice
through
the
methods
shown
here,
but
those
couple
items
of
correspondence
one
was
in
response
to
the
letter
staff
mailed
it's
from
a
storage
facility
and
they
were
a
pro
opposed
to
a
more
restrictive
approach.
B
A
B
B
B
D
B
B
E
Thanks,
mr
chair,
so
I
think
I
was
the
lone
may
on
the
last
vote.
My
sticking
point
was
the
lindale
avenue
retrofit.
Really
we
had
just
approved
that
retrofit
and
the
design
and
vision-
and
I
really
struggled
with
with
approving
the
the
proposal
at
hand
due
to
that
piece,
so
I'm
actually
in
support
of
the
city
council's
recommendations
of
preventing
or
restricting
it
to
the
glendale
avenue
corridor.
E
E
E
There
really
are
very
few
properties
that
could
be
compliant
and
and
as
staff
mentioned,
some
of
those
properties
are
city
owned,
so
very
unlikely
that
they'd
actually
be
developed.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
here
that
I'm
just
not
in
love
with,
but
you
know,
the
lindale
avenue
piece
is
something
that
I'm
glad
to
see
and
I'll.
Take
the
rest
of
my
comments
and
listen
to
see
what
everyone
else
has
to
say.
B
H
Commissioner,
roman,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
you
know
I
will
start
by
saying
clearly
the
council
has
expressed
their
desire
and
their
preference
as
the
decision
makers
in
our
city.
This
is
their
priority
to
do
so.
I
I.
What
echoes
for
me
is
what
commissioner
goldsmith
said
about
you
know.
If
you
look
at
this
map,
why
don't
we
stop
playing
games
and
just
pass
an
ordinance
that
says
no
new
self
storage
in
bloomington
period
and
move
on
so
again,
the
council?
This
is
what
the
council
would
like
to
see.
D
Thank
you
yeah.
I
I
I
echo
commissioner
roman
commissioner
goldsmith's
comments.
I
think
I
said
this
from
the
very
get-go
that
when
we
originally
were
having
this
conversation,
we
are
just
extending
the
moratorium.
That
is
what
we're
doing,
and
if
that
is
the
prerogative
like
commissioner
roman
mentioned
of
the
city
council
and
that's
the
direction
in
which
they
want
to
go
then
great.
Let's
do
it,
but
I
don't
see
a
reason
why
we
have
to
say
not
here
not
here,
not
here
open
this
parcel
right
here,
that's
okay,
yeah!
D
I
agree,
commissioner
goldsmith.
This
is
a
comical
map.
This
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me.
I
think
it's
either
we
figure
out
how
we
can
allow
it
and
allow
the
market
which
obviously
and
absorb
these
units
absorb
this
use
and
we
allow
it
and
we
figure
out
how
to
allow
it
or
we
don't
allow
it.
But
I
don't
think
this
in-between
approach
is,
is
smart
and
I
I'm
gonna
vote
against
this
one.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
also
am
not
in
favor
of
this.
Echoing
what
other
commissioners
have
said.
It
looks
a
little
ridiculous.
What
we're
doing
here-
and
it
just
sort
of
really
surprises
me
that
in
a
city
with
quite
literally
thousands
of
parcels,
we
can
only
find
four
that
are
allowed
to
have
cell
storage
that
something's
not
right
about
that
and
touching
on
lindell
avenue,
because
I
know
that's
the
biggest
sticking
point
for
me.
The
contention
has
always
been
that
there's
so
much
of
lindell.
That
needs
to
be
redeveloped.
F
It's
you
know
it's
it's
a
long
street
past
98th
street
and
there's
so
much
room
there
and
if
we
did
start
filling
it
up
and
we
got
anxious
about
it
10
years
from
now,
then
we
could
install
a
restrict
in
there,
but
I
think
in
in
2021,
where
I
just
don't
see
us
in
a
position
to
say
whoa,
not
not
yet
not
not.
Here
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
and
that
there's
so
much
of
lindell
that
could
stand
to
be
redeveloped.
F
H
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair
yeah,
I'd
like
to
echo
that
thank
you
to
the
planning
staff.
This
summary
comparison
chart
word
shows
exactly
what
staff
planning
commission
city
council.
I
went
straight
here.
I
was
looking
at
okay.
Let's
I
gotta
see
side
by
side.
This
is
very
helpful.
Thank
you
very
very
much.
The
only
thing
I
want
to
add
is
commit
sure
cook
then
said
something
that
you
know
we're
down
to
four
sites,
but
not
only
are
we
down
to
four
sites,
but
we
have
to
then
get
a
conditional
use
permit
approved
by
the
city.
D
B
B
I
still
think,
if
and
agree
with
everybody
else,
that
if
you
want
a
moratorium,
make
a
moratorium.
However,
if
you
want
to
allow
them,
but
you
are
concerned
with
elements
of
the
way
they
are
presented
in
our
community,
we
can
do
design
standards
and
conditions
that
would
allow
them
to
adapt
to
our
changing
community.
B
It
takes
a
little
more
work
for
each
of
us
and
a
little
more
thought
process
to
go
through
that,
but
it
it
is
possible.
That
being
said,
like
everybody
else,
city
council
makes
the
decision
on
this,
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
would
be
voting
against
this
as
well
all
right.
That
being
said,
any
other
from
my
side,
any
other
discussion
from
council
or
from
commission.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
One
more
thing
you
know
I
drive
up
and
down
lindale
every
day,
well,
typically,
every
day
to
go
to
work
and
have
been
driving
up
and
down,
linda
and
watching
the
progress
of
the
u-haul
sites
in
which
we
made
some
design
changes.
Specifically,
you
know,
as
a
commission
recommended
and
made
it
as
a
condition
to
for
approval
some
design
elements
and,
and
and
frankly
I
I
can
tell
I
can
tell
the
difference.
D
I
can
tell
the
feel
I
can
tell
that
the
difference
in
walkability
in
front
of
that
building
around
that
building,
but
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
people
walk
up
and
down
landfill
in
that
area.
Right
now
you
can
tell
the
difference
and
I
think
there
is
like
jer
solberg
said
there
is
another
way
and
I
think
the
design
standards
is
is
that
way,
and
so
I
would
encourage
the
the
city
council
to
really
think
about
that
as
a
tool.
D
You
know
we
do
that
in
all
different
types
of
ways
in
our
city,
including
including
brick
facade,
so
we
did
it
tonight.
So
I
think
there
are
ways
that
we
can
make
this
more
appealing
to
folks
who
would
be
interested
in
developing
self
storage,
but
also
more
appealing
and
creating
a
more
walkable
pedestrian
friendly
bike
friendly
community
that
we're
looking
great.
F
D
F
K
F
Can
we
wait
until
it
starts
filling
up?
I
appreciate
the
intent
of
restricting
lindell.
We
have
a
big
vision
for
that
plan,
which
I
support
very
strongly,
but
staff
has
told
us
we
could
be
waiting
25
years
or
more
for
that
to
sort
of
fill
out
and
I
don't
think
it's
appropriate
in
2021
to
restrict
it
now.
You
know
I
support
the
86.
The
98th
notes.
That's
important,
that's
where
we
think
it's
going
to
start,
but
to
say
92nd
street
is
is
inappropriate.
F
I
I
don't
agree
with
that,
and
I
would
just
ask
the
council
to
consider
you
know
we
could
still
do
this
in
the
future.
We
could.
We
can
restrict
lindale
when
we
were
starting
to
see
that
vision
come
before
us,
but
I
think
it's
too
early
and
I
would
just
ask
the
council
to
to
consider-
maybe
we
hope
we
hold
off
on
that
lindell
restriction
until
a
later
date.
F
B
D
B
All
right,
commission
members,
we
have
a
motion
in
front
of
us
and
a
second
to
recommend
denial
of
the
ordinance
attached
to
the
staff
report,
amending
chapters
21
of
the
city
code
to
establish
additional
standards
for
self
storage
facilities
and
to
remove
moratorium
on
self
storage
facilities.
Any
further
discussion
on
this
item.
F
B
A
F
J
J
B
B
As
I
understand
this
item
will
go
to
city
council
on
may
24th
and
it
is
a
public
hearing
so
again
for
folks
in
the
public
that
would
be
interested
may
24th
at
the
city
council
and
it
is
a
public
hearing
all
right.
Thank
you,
commission
members
for
your
work
on
that
item.
Moving
on
to
item
number
five,
which
is
proposed
school
crosswalk
safety
improvements,
vicinity
of
france
and
108th
and
amy
marone
as
the
staff
report
for
us.
G
G
Yeah
exactly
before
I
got
too
far
all
right
good
evening
planning
commission.
Back
in
january,
we
came
to
you
with
three
proposed
spot
safety
improvements
that
we
had
identified
as
locations
that
we
recommended
for
implementing
with
the
2021
pmp
projects,
and
tonight
I'm
bringing
back
one
additional
recommendation
for
improvement
for
your
consideration.
G
G
And
lastly,
we
had
received
a
contact
recently
through
some
community
engagement,
outreach
staff
that
work
closely
with
a
bipac
leadership
group
that
have
residents
that
are
living
in
the
new
apartment
buildings
at
108
place
just
to
the
west
of
here.
So
this
crosswalk
location
has
you
know
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
so
mostly
during
covid
conditions
quickly
become
on.
Our
radar
is
a
location
with
school
crossing
safety
concerns.
G
So
what
we
heard
is
that
people
are
concerned
that
the
students
have
to
cross
at
this
uncontrolled
leg
of
france,
avenue
that
the
students
have
to
cross
four
lanes
of
traffic.
So
we've
got
that
multiple
vehicle
threat,
and
so
I
included
a
graphic
here
in
the
bottom.
That's
that,
just
briefly
to
help
explain
what
that
multi-vehicle
threat
is
it's
essentially,
even
if
a
vehicle
stops
in
the
outside
lane
for
a
pedestrian
that
would
be
crossing
the
roadway.
G
G
Let's
see,
we
had
also
heard
from
the
school
district.
Some
concerns
over
drivers
who
are
headed
southbound
to
eastbound
so
making
the
left
turn
onto
108th
street
and
the
large
number
of
pedestrians
that
are
crossing
that
eastern
leg
of
108th
street
as
well,
and
so
we
we're
looking
at
some
ways
to
improve
that
area.
G
We
have
not
been
able
to
collect
pedestrian
count
data,
but
what
we
have
done
is
worked
with
the
school
district
and
they
have
identified
that
there
are
current.
Currently
there
are
30
students
that
live
within
the
westwood
elementary
school
walking
boundary
that
live
west
of
france
avenue.
So
those
are
some
potential
users
and
we
we've
heard
from
other
residents
in
the
area
that
there
is
pedestrian
crossing
demand
to
get
to
the
commercial
area
just
a
little
bit.
North
and
west
of
this
area
as
well.
G
The
traffic
volume
is
just
a
little
bit
north
of
this
picture
by
the
commercial
and
the
apartment.
Building
driveways
are
about
6
600
vehicles
per
day.
When
you
get
to
this
section
from
108th
street
down
to
110th
street,
the
volumes
dropped
to
3
900
vehicles
per
day
and
then
south
of
110th
street
we've
already
done
a
roadway,
striping
conversion
and
gone
to
one
lane
in
each
direction,
as
well
as
on
both
legs
of
110th
street.
G
So
when
we
first
had
our
conversations
with
the
school
district,
we
made
some
kind
of
near-term
or
immediate
improvements
to
this
area,
and
we
so
now
this
graphic
is
facing
north
on
france
at
the
same
pedestrian
crossing,
and
you
can
see
it
looks
a
little
different
than
the
first
image
we
ground
out.
The
crosswalk
markings
on
the
south
leg
of
the
intersection.
G
G
So
those
were
the
the
near-term
improvements
that
we
could
make.
Another
element
of
this
project
is
that
this
there's
currently
a
sidewalk
gap
between
the
new
108
place,
apartments
and
france
avenue
and
the
reconstruction
project.
The
roadway
reconstruction
project,
that's
going
to
happen
on
108th
street
between
goodrich
and
johnson,
will
also
include
the
construction
of
the
sidewalk,
so
we're
getting
rid
of
our
sidewalk
gaps
for
continuity
to
the
school,
but
we
are
still
left
with
a
crosswalk
location
that
is,
students
crossing
a
four-legged,
undivided
roadway.
G
So
I
added
a
couple
graphics
in
here
just
to
show
that
there
are
there's
a
lot
of
research
about
ways
to
improve
safety
at
pedestrian
crossings,
and
you
know
we
try
to
stay
up
on
the
latest
the
best
treatments
we
don't
want
to
over
treat
a
location,
but
really
when
we're
looking
at
a
crosswalk
location,
it's
not
so
much
a
function
of
the
number
of
pedestrians
that
are
crossing
as
it
is
of
the
situation
of
the
roadway.
So
we're
always
going
to
be
looking
at
the
traffic
volumes.
G
We're
always
going
to
be
looking
at
the
number
of
lanes
and
the
vehicle
speeds.
Those
are
the
three
main
characteristics
that
really
drive
what
we
should
be
considering
for
enhancements
for
improving
the
safety
of
a
pedestrian
crossing.
There
are
a
lot
of
other
details
that
we
get
into,
such
as
the
grades
of
the
roadway
and
looking
at
the
drainage
and
making
sure
that
specific
elements
will
work,
but
those
are
those
are
kind
of
the
main
drivers
and
so
here's
an
example
of
the
latest
local
road
research
board
guidance.
G
It
was
published
in
may
of
2020
one
of
the
recommendations
that
they
have
well.
Here's
just
an
example
of
we
currently
have
four
lanes
on
this
roadway,
and
one
thing
that
they
always
say
is
to
you
know:
look
at
a
striping
conversion
if
your
traffic
volumes
are
lower
and
you
don't
don't
need
those
four
lanes
of
vehicle
traffic
to
accommodate
the
traffic
volumes,
that's
one
of
your
best
ways
to
make
a
pedestrian
safety
improvement.
And
then,
when
we
look
at
our
traffic
volumes,
as
I
mentioned,
we
are
below
5000
on
this
section.
G
You
know
we
are
well
under
the
9000
vehicle
per
day,
and
so
we
couldn't
accommodate
with
two
vehicle
lanes
would
be
adequate
to
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
traffic
volumes
in
this
location
and
then
some
of
the
crosswalk
enhancements
that
they
can
that
they
suggest,
in
addition
to
the
lighting
and
the
pavement
markings
and
the
signage
is
to
consider
a
raised.
Crosswalk
pedestrian
refuge,
island,
some
in
crosswalk,
signage
or
curb
extensions
and
curb
extensions-
are
what
we
think
is
going
to
be
the
the
best
treatment
at
this
location.
G
G
Again,
if
we
get,
we
look
at
the
function
of
the
vehicle
speeds
and
the
traffic
volumes
and
the
lane
configuration
item.
Number
five
is
curb
extension.
So
yet
another
recommendation
for
curb
extensions
and
in
a
very
similar
situation,
to
what
we
have.
So
what
curb
extensions
can
do
is
increase
the
visibility
of
the
pedestrians
crossing
the
street,
so
you're
moving
them
closer
to
closer
out
into
the
roadway
before
they
even
step
into
the
roadway
so
they're
in
the
line
of
vision
for
the
drivers,
it
encourages
slower
turning
speeds
at
the
intersection.
G
G
Reducing
that
crossing
distance
is
really
critical
to
that
improvement
can
also,
they
can
also
be
used
to
create
essentially
a
gateway
or
a
visual
clue
to
drivers
that
they're
transitioning
from
the
commercial
area
into
more
of
a
residential
area
crash
modification
factors
that
can
be
applied
for
this
specific
type
of
treatment.
The
research
shows
that
there's
a
can
be
a
reduction
of
up
to
45
of
pedestrian
crashes.
So
that's
just
a
measure
that
we
use
to
to
compare
different
improvement
options
all
right.
G
So
to
be
able
to
make
these
this
to
construct
this
curb
bump
out,
we
would
be
also
doing
this
in
conjunction
with
some
striping
modifications
on
france
avenue
and
as
I
mentioned,
when
you're
up
by
the
commercial
driveways.
You
know,
we've
got
a
lot
more
vehicle
lanes,
but
we
have
higher
traffic
volumes
there
and
then
the
volumes
drop
off
significantly
after
the
apartment
and
commercial
main
commercial
driveway
access,
and
so
not
to
really
get
into
the
exact
details
of
the
taper
length
of
this
merge
and
stuff.
G
G
This
year
we
moved
forward
with
developing
a
let's
talk,
bloomington
page,
that
has
a
lot
of
the
background
information
and
these
graphics
and
the
proposed
layout
as
well
as
a
resident
survey.
And
so
we
did
a
direct
mailing
to
approximately
700
addresses
in
this
area,
which
we
identified
as
the
affected
area
for
both
the
crosswalk
and
the
it's
essentially
from
xerxes
to
oxboro
and
old,
shakopee
road
down
to
110th
street,
and
in
that
mailing
we
included
how
to
get
to
the
public
engagement
on.
G
Let's
talk
bloomington
as
well
as
information
about
tonight's
planning,
commission
meeting
and
the
upcoming
city
council
meeting
for
this
as
well.
I
also
reached
out
directly
to
the
other
residents
and
school
district
staff
and
other
partners
that
had
brought
this
up
as
a
area
of
concern
to
get
their
feedback
as
well.
So,
on
the
let's
talk
bloomington
page,
it
looks
as
though
we've
had
39
vis
visits
to
this
page
over
the
last
few
weeks
33.
G
G
G
And
so
it's
on
france
avenue,
where
the
traffic
volumes
are
about
three
times
higher
at
that
location
than
they
are
at
this
location,
and
that
we
did
not
have
the
option
to
reduce
the
number
of
travel
lanes
in
that
location
to
make
an
initial
improvement.
And
so
our
key
goal
at
that
location
was
to
make
sure
that,
in
addition
to
providing
that
pedestrian,
enhanced
flashing
beacon
that
we
were
getting
that
message
up
and
over
the
roadway
so
that
drivers
would
see
that
and
to
try
to
reduce
that
multi-vehicle
threat
that
we
talked
about
earlier.
G
It's
a
very
expensive
treatment
and
we
think
that
we
can
get
a
very
good
safety
improvement
at
this
location
with
these
lower
traffic
volumes.
With
this
with
this
treatment
that
we're
proposing
not
to
say
that
I
I
I
always
am
in
support
of
an
rrfb
treatment
at
the
appropriate
location.
I
just
don't
think
that
this
is
the
location
for
that
all
right.
So
now
you
know
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions.
B
Thank
you
amy
appreciate
the
report
on
this,
and
I
I
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
First,
I
want
to
thank
you,
though,
for
looking
at
this
really
is
an
improvement.
I
drive
this
road
every
day,
well
used
to
drive
it
every
day
and
often
do
see
kids
crossing
this
location.
When
I
would
leave
in
the
morning
at
various
times
so
appreciate
you
taking
a
look
at
this,
and
I
know.
B
I
know
you
said
your
your
best
practice
that
you
read
through
or
have
through
through
mndot,
about
curb
bump
outs,
but
I'm
also
aware
that
they
talk
about.
If
you
have
crosswalks
and
two
legs
of
an
intersection,
you
should
probably
put
them
at
all
four.
So
I
wonder
if
you
can
maybe
explain,
explain
some
logic
and
for
that
and
then
also
that
really
goes
to
ada
and
preventing
or
facilitating
that
at
intersections.
B
B
G
Chair
solberg,
those
are
great
comments,
so
I
do
want
to
clarify
the
reconstruction.
The
108th
street
reconstruction
is
for
the
leg
to
the
west
of
here,
so
it's
not
on
the
east
leg
of
this
intersection
and
it.
That
is,
if
it's
a
very
good
point,
that
the
curveball
boats
do
work
well
when
they're,
when
they
would
wrap
around
and
include
encompass
the
crosswalks
on
both
legs
of
the
intersection.
G
One
thing
that
I'm
still
working
on
is
doing
a
turning
movement
count
just
like
our
final
check
would
be
doing
a
sorry,
a
turning
movement
check
with
the
school
buses.
So
we
don't
want
to
restrict
the
mobility
of
the
school
buses
leaving
westwood
elementary,
so
that
one
thing
in
our
design
is
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
constricting
that
at
all.
G
B
B
G
Chair
solberg,
that
that's
a
that's
a
good
question
as
well,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we've
run
into
is
on
some
of
our
our
side.
Street
stopped
only
intersections
if
we
have
all
four
legs
marked
with
crosswalks,
it
gives
the
illusion
to
the
drivers
on
the
stop
controlled
legs
that
it's
an
always
stop
controlled
intersection.
G
So
we've
actually
moved
away
from
that,
and
we
have
tried
to
prioritize
and
mark
the
two
legs
where
we're
guiding
pedestrians
to
cross
at,
to
try
to
reduce
that
confusion
to
the
drivers
and
so
that
they
don't
make
that
assumption
that
it
isn't
always
stop
control.
If
it's
not
so,
you
will
often
see
that
we
will
mark
all
four
legs
on
an
always
stop
control,
but
not
on
a
side
street.
Stop
control.
F
G
G
They
would
not
position
a
student
crossing
patrol
at
this
location
because
it
is
not
adjacent
to
the
school
property,
and
so
it
is
outside
of
their
purview
of
where
they
they
feel
that
it
is
safe
to
be
placing
students
to
assist
in
crossing,
but
crossing
guards
is
a
little
bit
different.
That's
when
you
have
hired
staffed
and
they're
trained
by.
G
H
H
H
Right
it
looked
more
like
we
were
returning
to
existing
conditions,
southbound,
which
was
two
lanes,
and
it
just
given
that
it's
a
narrow
lane
to
start
with,
because
we
are
trying
to
squeeze
two
in
there.
I
just
was
wondering
about
the
thought
process
and
if
it
might
just
be
easier
or
more
logical
to
given
also
the
comments
about
bikes,
to
continue
that
from
that
in
that
two-block
stretch
with
the
treatment
with
one
lane,
with
the
eight
foot
shoulder.
G
It's
a
good
comment,
though,
and
we'll
take
a
look
and
see
if
there
is
enough
turning
traffic
where
we
think
that
right
turn
lane,
you
know
opening
up
the
right
turn.
Lane
is
really
needed
there
or
if
it
would
still
just
be
adequately
served
by
maintaining
that
single
lane
all
the
way
to
the
energy.
H
E
Thanks
interim
chair,
I
just
had
a
couple
of
comments
based
on
what
I'm
seeing
here,
and
I
am
all
for
anything
that
ensures
safety
of
residents
and
and
especially
kids.
As
you
know,
kids
are
walking
to
school
and
hopefully
doing
so
safely,
and
I
I
commend
you
for
looking
at
what
can
be
done
short
term
and
quite
easily,
so
you
mentioned,
you
know,
moving
the
the
light
poles.
E
H
J
J
B
All
right,
I
am
back,
hopefully
you
can
hear
me
all
just
wanna
move
forward
all
right.
Thank
you
miss.
So
at
this
point
I
just
want
to
maybe
make
an
opportunity
here
to
go
and
see
if
there's
anybody
online,
that
is
interested
in
talking
about
to
the
commission
about
this.
So,
mr
marker
guard,
would
there
be
anybody
online
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
item.