City of Bloomington, MN Planning Commission, 28 Apr 2022

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April 28, 2022 Bloomington Minnesota Planning Commission Meeting.

3:22 Item 1 PL2022-65
RGC Gymnastics (user)
2145 DE LLC (owner)
2001 West 94th Street
Conditional Use Permit for a sports training facility in an existing office/warehouse building

14:01 ITEM 2 PL2022-54 (cont. from 4/14)
Tommy’s Express Car Wash (user)
Christianson Companies (applicant)
200 West 98th Street LLC (owner)
200 West 98th Street
Conditional Use Permit and Final Site and Building Plans to redevelop an existing office building into an automated car wash

25:24 ITEM 3 City of Bloomington
(study item) Consider approval of draft 3/17/22 and 4/14/22 Planning Commission meeting synopses

26:57 ITEM 4 City of Bloomington
(study item) Planning Commission Policy and Issues Update

A

Good evening and welcome to the april 28 2022 meeting of the bloomington planning commission, the planning commission is made up of seven volunteer, blooming residents appointed by the city council. At present. We have five tonight, so we do have a quorum. The commission is advisory to the city council for most items. The commission makes recommendations and the city council has final decision-making authority.

A

In certain cases, the planning commission can approve or deny an application subject to an appeal to the city council and the two items on the agenda tonight are items that are final action with the ability for an appeal for each item. There'll be a staff report for the first time, there'll be a staff report, an opportunity for the applicant to present and a time for the member of the public to provide public testimony.

A

Our first order of business is the pledge of allegiance. Please stand as you are able.

A

B

Allegiance of america to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

A

All right before we begin, um mr marker guy, do you have information on public testimony.

C

Yes, uh mr chair, we do have two opportunities for public testimony item. One is a public hearing and uh certainly can testify here in person within the chambers and if you're at home tonight, you can call in to testify what you would do is call in this number on the screen and then you would enter in the access code and we will have this number at the bottom of the screen throughout item number. One.

A

Thank you. The first item on our agenda tonight is a conditional use permit for a sports training facility in an existing office or warehouse building, and I believe mr ambler olsen has the presentation.

D

Yes, thank you, mr chair alrighty. First mistake. Thank you, mr chair.

D

All right, okay! Thank you, mr chair members of the planning commission yeah. The item number one is a condition and use permit to locate an athletic training facility in an existing office. Warehouse building the property in question is 2001. West 94th street.

D

On this slide, you'll see the subject site and the area highlighted in blue in the northwest corner is where the applicant will be locating within this existing office. Warehouse building the applicant is a rochester or sorry rochester, ridgefield gymnastics club second mistake: um it's a non-profit gymnastics instruction business um and uh they're relocating from a 12 500 square foot uh space within the property at twenty zero, zero.

D

Ninety uh ninety eight street and they'll be locating in this building and they'll have uh occupying approximately nineteen thousand five hundred square f five hundred square feet at this building, approximately 17 500 square feet of that will be existing office use and then the remaining 2000 will be warehouse use um as you'll see on this slide, uh the the majority of the site is uh just regular office. Warehouse use within the i2 district, however, to the west is heavy industrial.

D

um I believe it's a tractor uh or I'm sorry um forklift supply and bus maintenance on the very west, so some uses surrounding that again play into the consideration. The conditional use these permit some existing conditions that um were captured by staff this past monday, hence the grey clouds, but nonetheless this is a picture taken from 98th street looking at the main entrance of of the building uh of actually the portion of the building that will be occupied by rgc.

D

So that's uh image, looking southeast at again at um also capturing a little bit of the parking that will be used by rgc in their operations at the building.

D

So this is a more of a site planned view again capturing both the the parking to the west and to the north, and also illustrating where the main entrance will be and also hatching. In uh the the um the conceptual floor plan for the the new space.

D

Here's a more detailed look at that floor plan. um The.

D

The part that I'm highlighting the cursor with with my cursor is what is existing office space right now and uh just below that's the 2 000 square feet of warehouse space. That will also be that is part of this proposed use.

D

You know, typically in these, in these uh relocations, the concern arises around parking, so going from a an office. Warehouse use to sports or an athletic training facility entails different parking needs and requirements, and so this image is just to show what ex parking is already existing and that they're currently meeting the uses presently on site. That's both office warehouse and some exterior storage.

D

So right now the um the available parking is a little under 300. They have another 230, so many spaces as proof of parking. So if that demand arose to require that spaces or require that much parking, the spaces are available. So that's what this image is highlighting.

D

And it's a fairly simple application.

D

As you noted, a planning commission does have final approval authority and there's three days three business days for appeal, the decision, but there is recommended language below for the motion and I'm available with any questions you may have.

A

Thank you, mr ram olsen, and I apologize. I forgot to introduce you at the beginning and welcome you to the city planning staff. This is our first opportunity to hear from you questions for staff.

A

Okay, seeing none would the applicant wish to speak on this item.

A

You could go ahead and sign in on the sheet and then identify yourself for the for the record.

E

My name is jamie sarasaki and I am the executive director of richfield gymnastics, club or rgc, um so I just wanted to give you a little bit of a background about our club. We are a non-profit incorporated in 1971..

E

um We started out in the richfield high school, gym basketball gym in the gymnasium there, and we were there up until 2015 when we moved over um just across the street here um to our new, upgraded 12 000 square foot space. We outgrew that pretty quickly and we're looking at additional space pretty soon after moving over, we are eager to get into a bigger space, be able to offer more programming for our gymnasts be able to offer more activities as far as like events, birthday parties, you know kids activities right now.

E

We have 461 active gymnasts enrolled in our program and it ranges from recreational gymnastics where they're two years old to 12 13 14.. um They just come for an hour or our competitive team. Kids, who are there three four five days a week for multiple hours. We are excited to be able to hopefully expand into a bigger space. Allow those kids to have more room to grow with their gymnastics.

E

We've been pretty limited with the amount of stuff that we are able to do with cobid, still pretty pretty strict with our spacing and making sure that we're not overbooking any of our programming. Currently, we survived covid barely, but we did and we were paying full rent and doing all the things without receiving any sort of income for six or seven months.

E

So I feel like, even though we've gone through those hurdles, and we are a nonprofit we'll be able to expand into this much larger space and still be able to grow and achieve as many of our goals as we can.

A

Thank you for that. Are there any questions for the applicant.

A

Okay, thank you. um As this is a public hearing, I will open the public hearing and is there anyone in the chambers who's interested in speaking on this item?

A

Mr margaret, are there any online.

C

Yes, mr chair, looking at everybody online, they are all city staff members.

A

Okay, um so seeing no one in the chamber and no one online, I would look for a motion to close the public hearing.

F

Motion to close the public hearing, second there's.

A

A motion and a second to close the public hearing any discussion, all those in favor say aye aye opposed abstentions. The public hearing is closed. uh Any discussion on this item, commissioner goldsman thanks.

F

Mr chair, um I think this uh this uh request is pretty straightforward. The the things that I have come to mind is actually worked in this building for many years uh when it was occupied by donaldson company, and I always thought it should be used for some sort of gym or um recreational facility.

F

It's a really large gym space, and so I think it's a great use of the space as well as parking is more than adequate, and I think that there's some great amenities within the building as well for spaces for locker rooms and also um you know, meeting type spaces. So all in all, I think it's a it's a good use of the space and I'm glad to see that there's programming for kids as well in a safe and athletic way so I'll be in support.

A

Yeah, I will say that one thing we heard last meeting: we there was, or it was last meeting we had a condition used from it for a different use in their existing space, and there was conversations about parking, and so I think this will probably benefit the uses at the place that they're vacating, as well as the place they're, locating to any other discussion.

A

Anyone interested in a motion, commissioner, goldsmith thanks.

F

Mr chair, in case pl 2022-65 having been able to make the required findings, I move to adopt a resolution approving a conditional use permit for an athletic training facility at 2001, west 94th street, subject to the conditions and code requirements attached to the staff report.

G

A

We have a motion in a second for a conditional use permit for an athletic training facility at the subject: property subject to conditions and code requirements. Any further discussion, seeing all those in favor say aye opposed abstentions.

A

This motion passes this is a final decision by the commission unless an appeal is received by 4 30 pm on may 3rd. Thank you.

A

Our next item is an item that was continued from our last meeting. This is a conditional use, permit and final site and building plans to redevelop an existing office building into an automated car. Wash as this is an item that was continued, I will ask staff for a brief summary to refresh folks, but this is not a public hearing. The public hearing was held at the last meeting and was closed. Ms o'day.

H

Yes, can you let's see, can you hear me and see me.

A

Yes, and yes, and.

H

See the slideshow.

A

A

H

I'm gonna re-try because something's not working on my end.

A

A

We can see your screen, we just it's not in presentation. It's.

H

On presentation, okay, let me try one more thing and.

A

If that doesn't work for you, it's okay to, I think, there's only a couple slides.

H

Yes, all right, one more time here.

H

All right, I'm just gonna roll with it cause something's, not working. On my end, sorry about that. um Thank you, chair and commissioners item two on your agenda is for a conditional use, permit and final site and billing plans to redevelop an existing office into an automated car. Wash this item, as mr chair mentioned, was continued from the previous planning commission meeting.

H

The subject property is 200 west 98th street. It's on the north side of 98th street between lindale and nicolette. Avenues surrounding land uses include residential to the north and south, and commercial and office uses to the east and west.

H

Here is the submitted site plan to refresh your memory. There are 10 vacuum spaces along the west side and four regular spaces.

H

There is a canopy on the east side for car wash payment as well as three lane wide queuing area vehicles using the car wash would enter from either 98th street or 97th street travel south of the building to the canopy area for payment and then enter the car wash north of the building and exit to the south of the building.

H

At the last meeting, the planning commission voted to continue the item and direct staff to prepare a resolution of denial. Those resolutions are in your packet for your review and then city per city code. If the planning commission action is a thai vote, the cop automatically goes to city council for final decision and then. Lastly, since last couple days, staff has received public correspondence expressing support of the applications.

H

As well as the applicant has drafted a response letter to the resolution of denial and all documentation is printed at your seats and then with that staff is recommending approval of the applications, and I have both approval and denial motions on the screen as well.

A

Thank you, ms o'day. As I mentioned, the public hearing was at the last meeting and we did not notice a public hearing for tonight, so this will be up for discussion amongst the commission.

A

We had significant discussion of this at the last meeting. If anyone has any additional discussion, we certainly can we can do that. Otherwise we do have. There are two motions here. I will note at the last motion at the last meeting. The motion to approve failed, so I don't know if we uh want to advance the motion for denial and see where that goes. um We can take this in any direction. Commissioner, abdi.

I

Thank you, mr chair. I have not changed my position since the last meeting, but I'm wondering the three who voted denial. Have you changed your position since or are we still on because we have three and three now right, so I was wondering: has anybody changed their position since and then decide to move on fair.

A

Enough, I will speak for myself. um My my position was based on the the sphere of the 98th street station plan. I know there were other reasons that others had that position, so I have not changed because the plan remains what if anyone else has, I.

F

Will second, that as well, my my decision remains the same as last meeting.

G

I'm in the same same spot as last time.

B

G

J

C

A

Okay and that's fine, um so that I think, is where it's helpful to have the staff provided and legal is provided the information from our rules of procedure. um Again, we will need to move forward a motion um and a tie just goes to the city council, commissioner, cookton.

B

Mr chair, uh we there are two motions before us one subsequent to the next, uh mr marker guard or maybe miso day. Can you just discuss for us? What happens if there's a what happens with the first vote and.

C

B

Affects the second motion.

C

Sure, mr chair, commissioner cookton, if you did deny the conditional use permit uh your rules of procedure, require you to also deny the financing building plans for that item. So it would have an impact on the second motion.

A

But I think maybe his question I don't want to speak, for you is. If there is a tie, is there any action to be taken on the subsequent motion? In my hearing you correctly, you are.

C

Yeah mr chair commissioner cooked and if there is a tie on the first motion, we would ask that another motion be made on the second item and then I'm presuming we would have the same tie and then both items would move on to the city council.

A

Commissioner, albrecht.

J

Thank you, mr chair. um I wonder if we should be having a disc can couldn't be having a discussion on whether or not we would like to hear more from the public. It does seem like there are folks here, um I'm not sure if we can open reopen the public hearing. um However, I do think that we heard from the applicant- and we heard from neighboring uh commercial properties, but not necessarily uh folks who live in the area.

A

I'll ask mr margaret, if I to clarify, but my understanding from legal is that, because we didn't notice a public hearing for this item tonight, we're not able to have anything to add.

C

Sure, mr chair commissioners and assistant city attorney tosky can jump in as well, but because the because a public hearing has not been notified, um we cannot hold a public hearing this evening because it wasn't properly noticed. If we wanted to reopen the public hearing, we would need to continue to a future date and and notify both through mail and newspaper.

A

And mr margaret, given that the next meeting is may 12th, that would probably not be sufficient time for that.

C

Correct uh mr chair would not be sufficient time, so it would actually be two meetings out. That would need to be the continuing state to reopen that public hearing and.

A

Would that provide enough time for agency action if it went to the council.

C

uh Mr chair, it starts to get very, very tight at that point, um so we we would be very nervous about that.

A

Okay, thank you. Does that answer your question, commissioner. Albrecht. Okay, uh any other questions or discussion.

A

Okay, um would anyone like to make a motion again? Anyone can make a motion. I my recommendation. I guess myself. I would advance recommend advancing the denial motions, as we did advance the approval motion. I think either way my sense of the nose counting is. It will be a a thai vote, um but anyone commissioner goldsman.

F

I'd like to make a motion go ahead thanks mr chair in case p. L, oh, would you mind going back to the last slide?

F

Thank you in case pl2022-5.

F

Having been unable to make the required findings, I moved to adopt the resolution included in the planning commission packet, denying a conditional use permit for an approximately 5 400 square foot. Automated car wash located at 200 west 98th street.

A

Is there a second.

G

A

We have an emotion and a second to adopt a resolution of denial for a conditional use permit at the subject property.

A

Is there any further discussion having seen that, I'm going to call for a vote and as last time, I'd ask people to speak slowly, so we're clear all those in favor of the denial signify by saying aye aye, all those opposed to the resolution of denial signify by saying no, no.

B

A

Any abstentions.

A

This item is a split 3-3 vote. Therefore it will advance to the may 23rd city council meeting for the city council decision. I would look for a motion on the second item of action and commissioner corman.

G

In case pl 2022-54 having been unable to make the required findings, I moved to adopt a resolution included in the planning commission meeting packet, denying final site and building plans for an approximately 5 400 square foot automated car wash located at 200 west 98th street. Second.

A

We have a motion and a second to adopt a resolution, denying final sight and building plans for the subject property. Is there any further discussion seeing none all those in favor of the denial signify by saying I.

F

A

All those opposed to the denial signify by saying no, no any abstentions. This item is tied 3-3. It will also move to the may 23rd city council meeting and I thank everyone for their patience for this item stretching over two meetings.

A

The third item on the agenda is a review of planning commission meeting synopses from march 17th and april 14th. I will check sorry. I didn't have that up ahead of time on the 17th we had.

A

um Commissioners, abdi and cookton were not present, so we have the remaining four uh and on the 14th. I think we were all here. So um would anyone be interested in making a motion on march 17th, commissioner?.

B

J

Thank you, mr chair. I moved to approve the draft 317 2022 planning, commission meeting synopsis.

A

Is there a second.

G

A

Motion and a second to approve the march 17th planning commission minutes, all those in favor say aye aye opposed. Abstentions. Abstain. Thank you. That uh item passes. uh Do you have a motion for the april 14th minutes.

J

Thank you, mr chair. I move to approve the draft 414 2022 planning, commission meeting synopsis.

A

Thank you. Is there a second.

G

A

A motion and a second to approve the april 14th planning commission minutes uh any further discussion. All those in favor say aye, aye opposed abstentions.

A

That item is approved as well and item four on our agenda is our planning, commission policy and issue update mr mark regard.

C

Yes, mr chair commissioners, looking forward to your next two meetings, we have just one item currently on both of those agendas on may 12th. We have multi-family parking standards, an ordinance to update and amend those standards, and then on may 26th.

C

We have a application for an interim use permit for a temporary pandemic service facility.

C

So that's what we have coming up.

A

And on the 12th, that's a that's a action item. That's not a study item.

C

It's an action item. Yes,.

A

Any items anyone wants to raise for staff in this agenda item.

A

All right seeing none. uh That concludes the april 28th meeting of the planning commission and we are adjourned.

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