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From YouTube: March 10th Community Listening Session on Proposed Sustainable Bulky Item Management Plan
Description
A Community Listening Session on the proposed Sustainable Bulky Item Management Plan
A
Hey
thanks
ellen
good
evening,
everybody
thank
you
for
joining
us,
I'm
barb
wolfe
city
staff
in
the
community
development
department.
We
really
appreciate
you
joining
us
this
evening
for
this
learning
session.
A
Getting
into
our
agenda
this
evening,
we
are
scheduled
to
be
here
until
8,
30.,
we'll
start
with
the
purpose
of
engagement.
So
you
do
understand
why
we
invited
you
here
this
evening,
we'll
go
through
some
meeting
agreements
and
then
we
will
go
into
the
meet
of
the
evening
by
hearing
from
a
former
member
of
the
sustainability
commission,
john
hymas
and
city
staff,
laura
horner,
who
coordinates
the
garbage
and
recycling
program
and
she's
our
primary
contact
for
this
project
and
we'll
also
allow
some
time
for
questions
and
answers
to
clarify
the
presentation
information.
A
So
during
that
time
we
will
have
staff
available
from
the
project
team
here
to
answer
questions
for
you,
and
then
we
really
want
to
get
into
the
public
feedback
time.
This
is
so
that
we
would
like
to
allow
some
space
for
you
to
share
with
us
your
reactions
and
your
comments
from
the
presentation
with
the
project
team
and
then
we'll
close
out
and
talk
about
next
steps.
A
So
the
purpose
of
our
engagement
tonight
I'll
share
with
you
the
spectrum
we
use
here
at
the
city.
It's
called
iap2
and
what
this
shows
you
through
this
process,
when
we
say
engagement
is
what
does
that
really
mean?
And
how
will
your
voice
be
used
in
this
process?
A
A
The
sustainability,
commission
and
city
council
meetings
are
all
open
to
the
public
and
you
can
watch
them
live
or
you
can
watch
them
after
any
time.
Really
that
is
convenient
for
you,
and
so
I'd
encourage
you
to
do
that
and
then
also
at
this
time.
I
do
want
to
note
on
your
screen.
If
it
you
know
using
this
webex,
that's
a
little
unfamiliar
to
some
people
on
the
left
side
of
your
screen.
A
A
The
first
is
that
we
ask
you
to
be
respectful
during
our
time
this
evening.
Be
honest.
Honesty
is
really
important
as
we're
listening
to
your
input
and
all
ideas
tonight
do
have
good
intent.
So,
within
with
this
in
mind,
we
are
here
to
listen
to
everybody's
perspective
and
for
everybody
that
decided
to
take
time
out
of
their
evening
to
join
us,
and
all
of
the
voices
are
important
in
this
process.
A
So
we
do
ask
that
you
hold
that
agreement
for
everybody
and
that
all
ideas
have
good
intent.
Even
if
you
don't
agree
with
an
idea,
that's
being
shared
and
then
just
to
have
an
open
mind,
we're
here
to
listen
to
people
from
the
community
with
different
backgrounds
and
have
an
open
mind
as
we're
hearing
different
perspectives
from
your
own.
A
A
So
if
you've
participated
in
those
with
the
chat
boxes,
if
you
go
to
the
bottom
right
of
your
screen,
you
can
click
on
chat
to
open
the
chat
box,
and
you
may
already
see
some
messages
in
there
from
ellen.
Who
is
here
to
monitor
that
chat
box
this
evening,
ellen
biales
is
a
a
deputy
director
of
public
works
at
the
city
and
she's
part
of
our
project
team,
and
so
this
chat
box
is
here
for
you
to
use
during
our
entire
time
this
year.
A
Here
this
evening,
everything
that
is
submitted
via
the
chat
box
will
be
saved
in
the
notes
and
shared
with
the
project
team
and
the
sustainability
commission,
and
that
does
include
messages
that
are
sent
privately
among
attendees
and
those
that
are
also
sent
to
the
group.
So
just
be
aware
of
all
those
messages
will
be
captured,
and
this
is
a
space
that
you
can
submit
questions
here.
A
We
also
do
ask
that
during
this
time
you
do
mute
your
microphone
when
you
aren't
speaking
just
to
avoid
the
background
noise
and
distractions
when
people
are
presenting
sometimes
you're,
not
aware
that
you're
making
background
noise
and
it's
accidentally
done,
but
we
do
have
the
ability
to
mute
you
so
just
keep
in
mind.
If
we
do
mute
you
and
you
need
to
speak,
you
would
have
to
take
yourself
off
of
mute.
A
We
do
have
a
couple
of
callers
that
are
participating
using
a
telephone
as
ellen
stated
at
the
beginning.
When
it
comes
time
for
questions
and
for
submitting
comments,
she
will
unmute
you
so
just
be
aware.
At
that
time
on
your
phone,
you
will
have
to
mute
your
own
self
if
you're,
not
speaking
during
that
time,.
A
So
whether
you
choose
to
participate
either
verbally
or
via
the
chat
box,
all
comments
will
be
saved
and
and
really
both
ways
are
great
ways
to
participate.
So
at
that
time,
when
we
come
to
the
verbal
portion,
you
are
able
to
unmute
yourself
and
participate
during
that
time.
A
So,
with
the
amount
of
people
that
we
anticipate
on
the
call
this
evening,
we
are
asking
that
you
limit
your
comments
to
under
two
minutes.
So
that
is
something
that
I
will
be
monitoring
during
that
feedback
time.
So
during
the
presentation
this
evening,
I
do
encourage
you
to
grab
a
pen
and
paper
and
just
jot
down
your
key
thoughts
or
ideas
that
you'd
like
to
share,
so
you
make
good
use
of
that
time.
A
I
also
have
a
note
here
to
observe
the
five
second
rule.
You
know
with
these
virtual
meetings.
There's
there
can
be
blank
space
and
it
can
make
some
people
feel
uncomfortable
just
allow
a
little
bit
of
space
to
sit
after
somebody
speaks
so
that
as
people
jump
into
a
new
conversation,
the
first
person
is
finished
speaking.
A
So
just
maybe
give
a
silent
count
to
yourself
to
five
in
your
head
and
allow
that
space
before
you
do
jump
into
the
conversation
we
may
get
it
where
two
people
jump
in
at
the
same
time
or
something
like
that,
but
we'll
just
be
mindful
to
have
one
person
go
at
a
time
and
and
give
everybody
the
opportunity
to
share
and
take
turns,
certainly
glad
and
very
appreciative
to
see
everyone
here
tonight.
So
we're
going
to
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
from
everybody.
A
If
you
are
someone
who
thinks
of
things
after
the
fact,
like
you
hear
this
information
and
you
really
want
to
reflect
on
it,
we
will
provide
some
contact
information
at
the
end.
So
you
are
welcome
to
share
additional
thoughts
via
email.
A
We
do
have
a
survey
out
there
at
blm,
dot,
m
n,
slash
bulk,
and
that
survey
does
reflect
some
of
what
we're
asking
here
tonight.
So
this
is
another
great
way
to
provide
input
or
maybe
you're,
just
more
comfortable
typing
out
responses,
instead
of
speaking
at
a
meeting
like
this,
so
that
space
is
available
to
you
as
well,
if
that's
more
comfortable
for
you.
B
Thank
you
barb
good
evening,
everybody,
I'm
john
jaimes,
I'm
a
former
member
of
the
sustainability
commission.
I
served
from
2017
through
2020
and
I
served
and
still
serve
on
the
work
group
that
developed
the
proposed
changes
to
the
annual
cleanup
program.
B
We
all
know
that
the
curbside
cleanup
is
a
very
popular
program
in
our
city,
but
it's
also
a
very
challenging
program
to
operate.
City
council
has
been
discussing
how
to
make
changes
to
the
way
that
bulky
items
are
managed
for
many
years.
The
curbside
cleanup
program
is
costly.
B
B
The
program
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
I
didn't
know
this
until
we
started
looking
at
this
program.
The
program
started
in
the
1960s
and
was
originally
part
of
a
city-wide
neighborhood
cleanup
effort
called
clean
up
paint
up
and
fix
up.
The
program
was
designed
to
help
beautify
the
city
and
was
originally
paid
for
by
citywide
general
taxes.
B
Believe
it
or
not.
The
program
was
discontinued
in
the
1980s
due
to
budget
constraints,
and
the
program
started
up
again
in
the
late
1990s
and
the
costs
this
time
were
paid
for
by
a
fee
to
all
residential
properties,
which
is
still
the
way
that
it
operates
due
to
its
cost
and
environmental
impact.
In
2018,
the
city
placed
limits
on
the
amount
of
stuff
that
residents
could
put
out
at
the
curb
and
strictly
enforces
those
limits.
B
This
slide
that
you're
looking
at
lists
the
primary
ecological
drivers
for
making
a
change
to
this
program.
The
program
generates
a
lot
of
waste
and
to
put
that
in
perspective
in
2019
the
city's
residential
garbage
program.
You
know
just
when
you
set
out
your
regular
trash
every
week
that
generated
just
over
17
500
tons
of
garbage
in
the
entire
year,
not
including
the
curbside
cleanup.
B
These
pictures
show
common
example,
common
examples
of
items
that
are
put
at
the
curb.
If
you
look
closely,
they
don't
really
look
like
trash
and
in
fact
the
2019
study
referenced
earlier
concluded
that
35
more
than
a
third
of
the
items
that
are
put
out
at
the
curb
could
likely
be
reused
or
recycled.
B
C
D
B
B
All
of
the
items
in
these
pictures
were
landfilled
during
the
2019
cleanup
and
all
of
these
items
were
left
over
after
people
had
picked
through
the
piles.
All
of
the
survey
data
all
of
the
photos
were
taken
on
the
morning
of
the
actual
pickup
days
and
so
take
a
look
at
those
photos.
You
can
see
there's
a
lot
of
material,
a
lot
of
items
that
could
definitely
be
reused
or
recycled.
B
Shown
here
is
the
state's
waste
hierarchy
that
lists
the
environmentally
preferred
options
for
managing
waste.
This
is
an
expansion
of
the
common,
reduce
reuse,
recycle
hierarchy
that
we
use
when
talking
about
preferred
methods
of
dealing
with
things
that
we
want
to
get
rid
of.
As
you
can
see,
landfilling
is
the
least
preferred
environmental
option.
B
Our
weekly
trash
is
taken
to
the
hennepin
energy
recovery
facility,
also
known
as
herc,
where
it
is
incinerated
and
creates
steam
heat
for
downtown
minneapolis
and
is
converted
into
electricity
which
is
sold
to
the
grid.
Unfortunately,
this
facility
is
not
designed
to
take
the
bulky
items
that
are
put
out
as
part
of
the
curbside
cleanup
program.
B
B
As
you
may
know,
our
city
has
taken
a
position
in
opposition
to
this
expansion,
as
well
as
as
many
of
our
residents
in
2019.
Our
curbside
cleanup
refuse
was
sent
to
this
landfill
so
that
waste
equal
to
the
weight
of
approximately
160
snowplows
fed.
This
potential
mountain
which
went
full,
will
be
the
highest
elevation
in
either
burnsville
or
bloomington
and
will
likely
be
visible
from
the
southern
part
of
our
city.
B
Here's
what
the
working
group
stated
should
be
achieved
with
the
plan
these.
These
are
the
criteria
that
we
use
to
evaluate
alternatives,
keeping
bloomington
clean
or,
more
specifically,
don't
create
a
program
where
frustrated
residents
want
to
illegally
dump
their
bulky
items,
increase
the
environmental
benefits
by
reducing
the
carbon
footprint
through
maximizing
recycling
and
reuse
of
all
of
those
items
that
are
put
out
at
the
curb
that
still
could
be
recycled
and
reused.
B
After
reviewing
our
study
data,
brainstorming,
the
ideas
and
looking
what
other
cities
are
doing
in
the
metro
area,
the
work
group
proposed
a
new
model.
Bulky
item
vouchers
paired
with
community
cleanup
events,
given
the
analysis
which
laura
will
walk
us
through
next.
The
clear
winner
is
a
voucher
program
paired
with
community
cleanup
event.
It
provides
the
greatest
ecological
benefit,
the
lowest
cost,
the
bra
and
the
broadest
accessibility.
B
It
is
a
little
less
convenient,
but
you
have
all
those
other
benefits.
So
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
laura
horner,
who
will
provide
a
brief
overview
of
what
about
her
program
paired
with
the
community.
Cleanup
event
might
look
like
and
provide
a
comparison
of
all
of
the
options
using
the
strategic
priorities
and
values.
E
So
the
proposed
plan
includes
two
different
methods:
to
handle
bulky
items
to
continue
offering
some
sort
of
curbside
pickup
each
household
in
the
city's
garbage
and
recycling
program
would
receive
two
vouchers
that
are
each
good
for
the
collection
of
a
bulky
item.
For
example,
this
could
be
an
old
refrigerator,
a
television,
a
mattress
or
a
couch.
E
E
So
the
other
part
of
the
proposed
plan
includes
holding
one
or
two
community
cleanup
drop-off
events.
Each
year
residents
would
bring
their
items
to
a
central
location
to
dispose
of
on
a
single
day.
The
drop-off
events
would
be
open
for
any
bloomington
resident,
so
this
would
include
people
who
live
in
apartment,
buildings,
condominiums
or
town
homes
that
don't
have
the
city's
garbage
and
recycling
service
and
might
not
have
had
access
to
the
curbside
cleanup
program
we
have
now
today.
E
The
picture
on
this
slide
gives
you
an
idea
of
what
that
drop-off
event
could
look
like.
The
city
would
contract
with
several
different
vendors
to
be
on
site
at
one
central
location
to
collect
materials,
and
this
allows
those
materials
that
residents
bring
to
be
sorted
into
several
different
categories
for
recycling
and
reuse.
E
E
So
in
these
next
couple
slides,
we
will
compare
this
proposal
and
the
city's
current
curbside
cleanup
program
against
those.
The
reasons
why
we
were
looking
to
make
a
change
to
the
program
and
what
we're
really
trying
to
accomplish
by
meeting
the
city's
strategic
priorities
of
environmental
sustainability,
a
high
quality
service
and
inclusion
and
equity.
E
E
Event,
so
the
next
thing
we
will
look
at
is
the
cost
effectiveness
of
our
current
curbside
cleanup
program
compared
to
the
on-call
vouchers
plus
a
community
cleanup
event.
E
E
The
higher
cost
was
due
in
part
to
residents
setting
out
more
garbage
than
they
did
in
2019
1500
tons
in
2019
versus
2000
tons
in
2020,
and
also
because
the
cost
to
dispose
of
garbage
continues
to
increase,
as
landfills
are
increasingly
reluctant
to
take
this
volume
of
material
for
the
2021
cleanup,
the
cost
of
disposal
of
garbage
at
the
landfills
has
increased
again
by
by
eight
and
a
half
percent,
and
this
will
further
increase
our
disposal
costs.
E
This
year,
the
current
curbside
cleanup
program
is
paid
for
through
a
fee
to
all
cities
with
the
city
for
a
but
through
a
fee
to
all
residents
with
the
city's
garbage
and
recycling
service.
E
E
E
We
don't
have
very
many
that
do
do
to
do
choose
to
opt-in,
but
there
are
some
that
opt-in,
the
on-call
voucher,
plus
a
community
cleanup
event.
This
would
be
the
community
drop-off
events
would
be
accessible
to
all
residents,
so
that
would
include
multi-family
dwellings
and
those
vouchers
would
be
accessible
to
residents
with
our
city,
garbage
and
recycling
service.
E
E
It
still
would
be
accessible
for
residents
in
the
fact
that
the
vouchers
would
allow
you
to
still
dispose
of
items
without
a
vehicle.
However,
the
drop-off
portion
would
not
be
accessible
without
a
vehicle.
E
We
do
believe
that
the
recommended
alternative,
a
program
that
includes
bulky
item
vouchers
paired
with
these
community
cleanup
events,
does
provide
the
greatest
environmental
benefit
by
reducing
the
carbon
footprint
and
diverting
more
material
from
the
landfill.
It
also
provides
a
greater
accessibility
to
the
greatest
number
of
bloomington
residents
and
provides
a
reduction
in
cost.
E
E
We
will
have
two
different
sections,
as
barb
noted
earlier,
where
we
will
hear
from
you
all
and
in
this
first
section
we
want
to
answer
questions
only
so
if
you
have
any
questions
about
what
we
are
proposing,
we
would
like
to
get
those
questions
answered
here.
First,
I
will
be
able
to
answer
those
questions
and
also
may
ask
ellen
biales
and
john
hymas
to
provide
some
input
on
the
responses
as
well
and
after
that
we
will
switch
to
gathering
your
feedback
and
barb
will
facilitate
that
portion.
E
I
will
take
a
look
at
the
chat
box
now
to
see
if
there
were
specific
questions
to
get
us
started,
and
if
we
continue
to
receive
a
lot
of
questions
in
that
chat
and
we're
not
able
to
get
to
all
of
them.
We
will
certainly
make
these
questions
and
answers
available
on
our.
Let's
talk,
bloomington
page
for
more
information.
E
F
I
okay,
it's
gonna,
end
up
being
a
question,
but
I
am
one
of
the
people
who
thinks
that
reusing
of
things
is
very
important.
My
concern
is
that
we,
if
it
sounds
like
you're
thinking
in
terms
of
almost
having
like
a
big,
swap
meet
where
people
bring
things
to,
let's
call
it
a
big
field.
I
don't
know
where
you'd
be
doing
it,
but
first
of
all,
what
type
of
place
would
you
bring?
Would
people
bring
things
to?
F
E
We
know
that
the
one
one
potential
place
we've
looked
at
is
the
city's
western
maintenance
lot.
It's
a
lot.
It's
a
big
open
space
that
does
have
that
good
traffic
flow,
a
big
circle
where
different
vendors
could
be
collecting
items
and
also
a
different
area
where
we
could
allow
for
reuse.
So
it's
certainly
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
planning
the
actual
events,
to
make
sure
that
we
find
spaces
that
would
allow
enough
room
for
people
to
shop
around
in
a
reuse
area
and
also
easily
access
an
event
to
drop
things
off
for.
H
Or
not,
what
would
happen
to
all
the
extra
stuff
like
after
you
are
done
with
this
kind
of
swap
and
reuse?
What
would
happen
to
all
of
that
waste.
E
So
in
our
research
with
other
cities,
there's
there
are
different
organizations
that
could
take
that.
I
know
that
bridging
might
be
interested
in
taking
some
of
the
leftover
reusable
items
as
well
as
other
organizations
that
accept
reusable
items.
So
I
think
that
would
be.
Our
first
intention
is
to
bring
those
items
to
organizations
that
that
want
them.
If,
of
course,
there
are
items
that
are
left
over
that
organizations
don't
want,
those
would
ultimately
end
up
getting.
I
But
we've
heard
from
friends
in
eden
prairie
that
when
they
have
their
community
event,
sometimes
they're
sitting
waiting
three
to
four
hours
to
get
up
to
to
get
rid
of
their
materials.
I
I
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
work
inside
the
city,
the
size
of
bloomington
on
a
one-day
event
a
couple
times
a
year.
G
Sure
I
think,
with
these
events,
there
are
some
ways
to
try
and
help
mitigate
wait
times
for
people
and
part
of
that
is
by
having
a
large
enough
site
so
that
drop
off
can
be
spread
out
very
well,
and
you
know
that
cuts
down
on
wait
times
in
st
paul.
G
They
do
offer
these
type
of
cur
of
drop
off
events
throughout
the
year
and
sometimes
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
wait
if
everybody
shows
up
at
a
particular
time,
but
otherwise,
they're
typically
able
to
move
people
through
fairly
rapidly
to
drop
off
their
materials
and
get
moved.
E
E
Looks
like
there's
a
question
in
the
chat
or
a
comment
that
I
think
is
something
we
could
kind
of
respond
to
is
that
there
there
will
be
residents
that
don't
have
the
ability
to
transport
items
to
a
central
site
and
then
an
option,
even
during
present
model,
would
be
to
recruit
volunteers
and
provide
them
with
vehicles
to
retrieve
reusable
items
and
provide
them
to
the
bridge
bridging
or
goodwill.
E
So,
during
our
current
curbside
cleanup
program,
we
have
worked
with
ziegler
in
the
past
and
a
volunteer
group
through
that
company
to
provide
assistance
to
residents
with
limited
mobility
to
get
materials
out
to
the
curb.
So
we
would
continue
in
a
drop-off
model
to
look
for
organizations
that
might
be
able
to
help
those
residents
without
access
to
a
vehicle
to
get
those
materials
to
a
central
location.
F
How
would
that
be?
The
only
cost
then,
on
that,
for
this
is
to
have
to
pay
for
two
vouchers
to
the
homeowner.
E
At
this
point,
look
it
does.
We
do
think
that
that
voucher
cost
would
really
be
the
only
cost
in
that
curbside
cleanup
fee,
so
that
would
be
significantly
reduced.
However,
we
are
still
developing
this
program
and
there
might
be
additional
kind
of
educational
costs
that
would
be
included
in
there
as
well,
for
example,
what
to
do
with
items
maybe
where
you
could
take
them
for
reuse,
but
it
still
does
appear
that
that
cost
could
be
reduced
significantly.
F
F
H
G
We
did
kind
of
look
at
what
it
would
cost
for
us
to
just
basically
only
charge
people
who
would
be.
You
know
contracting
to
get
just
to
pick
up
of
one
or
two
bulky
items
the
the
difficulty
in
that
is
that
it
becomes
very
expensive
for
our
haulers
and
others
to
do
that
without
having
kind
of
a
volume
of
people
who
are
participating
in
the
program.
G
So
essentially
right
now
with
the
curbside
pickup,
I
think
residents
pay
about.
Is
it
53
54
a
year
laura
for
you
know
putting
out
everything
on
the
curb
and
and
all
of
that
which,
if,
if
a
resident
had
to
just
contract
with
the
hauler
on
their
own
to
do
it?
That
would
be
the
price
that
they
would
likely
play
for.
Just
one
item
to
be
picked
up,
and
so
the
cost
becomes
really
prohibitive
very
quickly
if
we
don't
negotiate
a
lower
price
for
having
a
volume
of
pickups
available
in
the
city.
G
So
when
we
take
a
look
at,
you
know
sort
of
what
it
is
for
us
to
negotiate
a
lower
price
with
the
haulers.
It
becomes
almost
a
third
to
a
half
of
the
price
that
somebody
would
have
to
pay
on
their
own.
There
is,
of
course,
some
equity
in
in
having
the
people
who
actually
use
the
service
pay
for
it.
G
But
what
concerns
us
about
that
is
that
if
the
price
becomes
so
expensive
that
people
don't
want
to
make
use
of
the
program,
then
they
start
getting
rid
of
stuff
inappropriately
by
throwing
it
in
the
parks
or
throwing
it
on
the
side
of
the
road
or
you
know,
leaving
it
in
their
neighbor's
yard
or
somewhere
else
in
the
city.
So.
H
So
I
guess
I'm
just
concerned
about
how
you're
justifying
a
cost
for
every
resident
in
bloomington
to
serve
25
percent
of
the
population,
in
addition
to
having
reduced
accessibility
for
people
that
don't
have
the
ability-
or
you
know
the
curbside,
I
think
got
people
to
put
out
their
stuff
to
take
it
out,
you're
kind
of
reducing
that
ability
for
people
with
this.
So
if
you're
concerned
about
trash
in
the
city,
it
seems
like
this
would
be
more
prime
for
that.
So
anyway,
back
to
my
original
question,
how
are
you
how?
G
Well,
I
can
take
that
again
if
you'd
like
we're
looking
at
it
as
a
system
that
kind
of
serves
the
whole
community.
G
So
when
we're
looking
at
it,
we're
looking
at
the
ability
to
make
it
accessible
to
everybody,
and
we
think
that
having
the
voucher
system
does
continue
to
have
some
accessibility
for
people
to
have
stuff
picked
up
from
their
homes.
But
it's
really
a
system
approach
so
that
everybody
has
access
to
the
service.
G
Much
like
we
do
with
our
recycling
program
and
our
garbage
program
to
an
extent
the
the
ability
for
us
to
negotiate
a
lower
fee
for
all
residents
means
that
as
a
system
it's
available
to
people
when
they
need
to
use.
J
J
I
don't
believe
that
that's
the
participation
rate,
I
would
be
more
in
favor
of
requiring
people
to
pay
for
a
voucher
to
have
their
stuff
picked
up
the
the
lady
who
lived
here
for
50
years.
If
this
service
restarted
around
2000,
she
spent
about
eleven
hundred
dollars
plus
and
has
never
used
the
service.
F
Thank
you
for
that.
I'm
the
lady
who's
been
here
forever.
I
I
I
like
what
you
said
in
many
ways,
but
I
in
some
ways
I
do
use
the
curbside
pickup.
I
have
never
had
big
items,
so
the
voucher
system
is
what
I
was
questioning
as
being
no
value
to
me.
So
the
voucher
of
two
big
items
is
of
no
value
and
I
don't
anticipate
needing
it
for
several
more
years.
Okay,
but
I
do
really
like
the
ability
to
kind
of
go
scrounging.
F
I
have
brought
home
many
wonderful
things
on
curbside
pickup
that
are
now
in
my
garden.
I
have
furniture,
I
have
lawn
furniture.
I
have
big
huge
pots
for
the
garden.
I
have
fencing
that
I
use
to
keep
the
bunny
rabbits
out,
and
I
mean
it
doesn't
really
matter,
but
these
are
things
that
were
totally
usable
and
they
were
going
to
be
thrown
out,
but
I
saw
them
by
the
side
of
the
road
and
I
brought
them
home
and
now
they're
in
use.
F
That's
the
benefit
of
curbside
pickup
is
the
ability
to
take
something
that
someone
else
does
not
have
a
use
for,
and
someone
who
does
have
a
use
for
it
puts
it
to
work
good,
you
know,
puts
it
to
good
use,
not
saying
it
right.
In
addition
to
that,
I
really
appreciate
when
I
see
people
coming
through
the
city
and
they
are
bringing
home
they're,
taking
things
from
curbside
pickup
to
repair
and
then
they're
going
to
sell
them.
I
think
that's
absolutely
fabulous.
F
What's
what
better
way
of
being
green
is
there
to
take
something
that
maybe
is
not
good
enough
to
be
given
to
goodwill
bridging?
I
love
bridging
really
do,
but
they're
very
critical
are
very
particular
about
what
they're
willing
to
accept,
and
they
don't
accept
a
lot
of
things
sometimes
and
where
these
people
who
are
out
there
scrounging
will
take
things
that
are
maybe
not
quite
so.
Wonderful
and
they'll
fix
them
up,
they'll,
renovate
them
and
then
maybe
they'll
even
go
sell
them
to
somebody.
J
Yes,
ma'am,
I
totally
agree
with
you
on
that.
I
think
that
the
recycling
side
of
it
is
extremely
important.
However,
there's
some
negatives
with
that
some
of
our
friends
that
recycle
also
make
a
mess
of
the
piles
each
and
every
night
as
they
scrounge
through
stuff,
and
you
know
that's
an
ancillary
problem.
I
think
the
bigger
issue
is
that
there's
a
percentage
of
bloomington
residents
that
do
not
use
a
service.
A
This
is
barb,
I'm
just
going
to
interject
here.
These
are
great
comments
that
we're
receiving,
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
right
now.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
from
the
presentation
that
we
had
if
there's
any
clarifying
questions.
Otherwise
we
can
move
right
into
the
comment
period.
E
Yeah
we
based
on
an
initial
evaluation.
We
we
think
that
it
might
cost
about
a
dollar
70
for
those
two
vouchers:
a
dollar
seventy
a
month.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
then
we'll
move
into
our
feedback
time
together
and
just
as
a
reminder.
A
A
If
you
choose
to
do
so,
and
you
can
type
and
submit
those
comments
at
any
time
between
now
and
the
end
of
our
meeting
and
we
will
save
those
so
just
a
reminder
here
to
be
respectful,
be
honest,
assume,
good
intent
and
have
an
open
mind
and
then
just
a
suggestion
for
framing
your
thoughts
for
this
section.
We
do
have
some
questions
listed
here
again.
We've
been
talking
about
the
bulky
item
vouchers
and
some
people
have
already
expounded
on
this.
A
What
do
you
like
about
the
plan
and
what
concerns
you
and
then
also
the
drop-off
events?
What
do
you
like
about
them
or
what
concerns
you?
What
item
items
may
be
difficult
for
you
to
get
rid
of
and
are
there
other
items
that
you
would
like
to
be
able
to
recycle
through
a
drop
off
other
than
those
that
were
mentioned
earlier
by
john
and
then?
Lastly,
do
you
use
other
methods
for
getting
rid
of
items
other
than
the
curbside
cleanup
like
donating
or
selling
them
online
or
through
a
garage
sale?
A
So
we'll
go
ahead
and
this
this
time,
then
people
can
make
comments
and
just
as
a
reminder,
I
will
have
a
timer
in
front
of
me.
So
I
just
ask
for
people
to
keep
keep
their
comments
under
two
minutes.
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
open
that
for
people
that
want
to
speak
verbally.
K
If
to
start
with
my
introduction
for
those
that
weren't
online
very
early
before
the
meeting
started,
I'm
the
treasurer
of
a
condominium
association
that
has
currently
opted
out
of
the,
I
would
like
to
echo
the
concerns
of
people
talking
about
charging
everybody,
because
that's
why
we
got
out
of
the
program
it's
because
in
total,
the
bulky
items
that
were
being
picked
up
is
less
than
the
over
four
thousand
dollars.
The
association
was
paying
to
be
a
participant
of
the
program,
and
we
have
just
said
to
our
owners.
A
Unmute
it
you
are
unmuted,
we
can
hear
you.
What's
your
name.
Oh
my
name
is
pat
hi
pat.
You
can
go
ahead
and
make
your
comments.
L
A
E
I
thought
I
had
just
unmuted
myself,
but
sorry
that
the
drop-off
events
there
would
be
a
charge
for
what
you're
bringing
in
some
items
would
be
collected
at
no
charge.
E
E
So
we
could
help
bring
down
the
cost
of
some
of
those
items
that
residents
bring
to
a
drop-off,
but
the
that
voucher
program
would
be
paid
for
through
the
utility
bill
and
the
drop-off
events
would
not
be
paid
for
through
your
utility
bill.
If
you
chose
to
bring
materials,
you
would
likely
incur
a
small
charge
for
some
of
the
items
you
bring.
L
E
H
People
are
just
going
to
throw
it
instead
of
having
you
know,
others
drive
through
our
communities
and
pick
it
up,
and
it
is
nice
to
see
that
people
are
picking
up
truckloads
of
things
on
these
curbside
cleanup
days
to
reuse
them
that
stuff's
going
to
end
up
in
the
trash,
because
people
don't
want
to
go
through
the
pain
of
selling
it
online
or
driving
around
to
find
somewhere
to
donate
it.
That
then,
won't
accept
it.
So
those
things
are
going
to
end
up
in
the
landfill
anyway.
H
It
might
not
be
measurable
by
the
city
of
bloomington,
but
it's
going
to
go
there,
and
my
other
comment
is
that
those
voucher
systems-
you
know,
if
we're
having
such
a
small
percentage
of
people,
use
it,
which
you
guys
have
put
in
your
presentation,
that
a
minority
of
residents
use
without
your
system
in
other
communities.
Some
as
low
as
seven
percent,
then
I
don't
think
at
all.
Everyone
should
pay
for
that.
That
should
be
a
service
paid
for
by
the
resident
that
uses
it.
G
G
What
we
do
know
is
what
we
found
when
we
went
out
and
studied
the
piles
right
before
the
trucks
came
through
and
at
that
point
in
time
we
knew
that
about,
like
we
say
about
35
of
the
materials
that
were
still
out
on
the
curb
right
before
the
trucks
came
through
was
stuff
that
could
have
potentially
been
reused
or
recycled,
and
instead
you
know
basically
the
city
paid
to
to
have
that
sent
right
to
the
landfill.
M
So
you're
making
a
recommendation
based
on
what
you
find
it
easy
to
measure,
not
what
is
really
happening
in
the
real
world.
I'm
one
of
those
people
who
puts
stuff
out
and
the
city
ought
to
encourage
it
going
out
a
day
or
two
earlier
than
just
before
the
pickup
and
almost
all
of
the
stuff
I
put
out
somebody
else
comes
by
and
decides
that
they
could
find
a
use
for
it
and
the
junk
I
put
out
quite
frankly,
things
that
have
no
usable
parts
and
there
are
no
parts
to
fix.
It
is
junk.
M
I'm
sorry,
some
stuff
goes
to
the
landfill
or
perk,
because
there
is
no
further
use
for
it.
Sorry
about
that,
I
think
you're
measuring
what
you
can
easily
measure
and
not
the
real
value
of
the
program.
Somebody
else
mentioned
earlier
and
I'll
agree.
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
bridging
from
the
very
first
day
that
bridging
started
with
fran,
but
bridging
charges
to
pick
up
a
lot
of
stuff
and
they
don't
pick
up
very
much
stuff.
M
I
find
that's
true
of
some
of
the
other
free
pickups,
so-called
free
pickups
too.
I
I
just
don't
see
this
program
as
proposed
as
being
an
improvement
at
all
and
as
to
those
people
who
don't
put
things
out,
so
they
don't
think
they
should
pay
for
it.
Well,
we
don't
have
children
in
the
schools
anymore.
M
A
F
Have
an
idea
for
the
curbside,
not
curbside
pickup,
but
what
if
the
city
was
to
have
a
day
in
which
you
just
simply,
and
it
could
even
be
the
way
we
have
it
one
saturday
divided
into
four,
you
know
for
a
month.
You
know
where
we
divide
the
city
into
four
quadrants
like
we
do
it
now,
but
what
if
we
had
it
so
that
people
could
put
their
thing
put
things
that
they
think
might
be
usable?
F
Okay
out
on
the
curb-
and
I
always
put
my
things
out
on
the
curb
in
a
way
I
kind
of
display
it
like
I'm,
creating
a
way
for
people
to
see
it
easily.
Okay
and
that
up
by
the
way,
also
stops
people
from
making
a
big
mess
out
of
your
pile.
F
But
I'll
lay
things
out
neatly,
and
if
we
had
that
as
a
how
about
this
saturday
put
out
your
things
and
everybody
can
come
grab
things
with
the
understanding
that,
if
stuff
is
not
taken,
you
as
the
homeowner
have
to
take
it
back
and
maybe
put
it
in
your
own
trash.
Can
what
about
that
as
an
idea.
A
N
All
right
questions
in
the
chat
which
I'm
going
to
ask
now
and
I'm
wondering
if
we're
maximizing
the
efforts
to
reduce
the
number
of
usable
items
that
harvey
and
landfilled
or
hitting
the
curb.
N
Are
we
doing
enough
educating
around
other
options?
You
know
where
bridging
it's
come
up
several
times.
You
know
tonight,
but
other
options
for
getting
rid
of
items
that
are
usable
next
door,
marketplace,
etc.
I'm
just
wondering
if
we're
responding
to
a
problem
rather
than
preventing.
N
N
Rather
than
turning
it
off
to
the
curve-
and
lastly,
I
just
wonder:
are
they
going
to
be
able
to
define
what
is
a
bulky
item
that
will
require
a
voucher
and
maybe
I'm
not
quite
understanding
that
process
completely,
but
I
mean
is
a:
is
it
a
terrible
key
item
or
is
it
a
recliner
or
is
it
a
couch
just?
What
exactly
is
it.
A
A
Just
as
a
reminder,
those
that
are
on
phones
to
mute
yourself
when
you're,
not
speaking,
and
there
was
a
caller
that
wanted
to
talk.
Yes,
I.
L
Have
a
great
story:
I
had
a
lazy
boy
that
I
brought
to
salvation
arm.
No,
it
was
arc
remember
when
arc
was
on
american
boulevard
and
and
they
value
village
they
would
not
accept
it.
They.
It
was
not
good
enough
quality
and
you
know
with
any
of
a
place
that
you
donate.
Then
they
have
to
handle
it
and
then
they
have
to
charge
for
it
versus
just
putting
it
up.
So
I
brought
the
item
back.
It
was
a
put
it
on
my
curb
and
then
someone
wanted
it
for
free.
L
So
it
was
a
great
example
of
a
piece
of
furniture
that
was
that
that
someone
liked,
because
it
was
free,
but
they
would
but
arc,
did
not
like
and
would
not
accept.
D
D
D
A
Yeah
stephen,
we
can
still
hear
you
so
if
you're
calling
in
on
a
phone
you'll
just
want
to
hit
mute
so
that
we
don't
hear
you
unless
you
want
to
make
a.
A
E
So
we
are
taking
public
feedback
throughout
the
month
of
march
and
then
we're
going
to
spend
the
next
month
or
two
kind
of
compiling
that
feedback
and
maybe
making
some
changes
to
our
plan.
Based
on
that
and
then
the
sustainability,
commission
and
staff
would
return
to
council
with
the
the
recommended
proposal
in
early
summer,
and
at
that
time
it
would
be
council's
ultimate
decision
how
to
move
forward.
E
M
E
But
the
hennepin
county
drop-off
site
is
really
designed
to
take
hazardous
waste
and
problem
materials.
So
there
are,
there
are
several
items
that
you
could
dispose
of
through
the
curbside,
this
new
model
that
wouldn't
be
accepted
at
those
drop-off
sites,
and
some
of
those
items
include
a
large
electronic
anything
that's
heavier
than
50.
Pounds
is
not
accepted
at
the
drop-off
sites
right
now
and
same
with
large
appliances,
as
well
as
items
like
furniture
and
tires
john.
Are
there
any
other
specific
items
that
you
could
think
of.
B
B
B
C
Hey
hey
barbara,
thank
you
yeah
just
a
few.
I
guess
two
questions
or
comments.
If
I
could
just
make
sure
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand,
did
you
say
you
guys
feel
there's
about
60
participation
in
the
program
in
the
curbside
cleanup
right
now.
C
Okay,
thanks
laura
and-
and
I
guess
what
the
goal
with
this
like,
like
with
what
kind
of
what
you're
proposing,
I
think,
you're,
not
sure
how
many
people
would
use
the
voucher
system.
But
I
would
the
goal
be
to
kind
of
see
that
same
60
or
a
growth
in
how
many
people
in
the
community
use
about
your
plus
community
pickup
event.
E
C
Okay,
just
wondering
like
what
what
kind
of
study,
or
why
do
you
think
that
there'd
be
less
ending
up
in
the
landfill
with
that
community,
those
community
pickup
days
versus
what
you
see
happening
on
curbside
cleanup
like
I
guess,
the
assumption
is
that
more
people
are
gonna
at
least
the
same
amount
of
people
are
gonna,
go
to
those
community
cleanup
event
days
and
and
you'll
have
more
activity
there
with
people
picking
up
the
reuse
materials,
or
I
guess
just
trying
to
understand
how
you
kind
of
foresee,
the
less
ending
up
in
a
landfill
than
what
the
curbside
cleanup
does
today.
E
Sure,
well,
at
that
drop-off
event
we
are,
we
would
be
kind
of
working
with
several
different
vendors
to
collect
more
materials
that
could
be
recycled
and
reused.
That
currently
would
be
landfilled
during
the
curbside
cleanup
when
the
hauler
ultimately
does
pick
those
up.
So
when
they're
brought
to
that
drop-off
event,
a
mattress,
for
example,
that
would
have
been
landfilled
could
be
recycled.
E
So
they
have
a
kind
of
a
baler
for
all
of
the
steel
springs
in
a
mattress
and
they
they
take
the
cotton
or
different
filling
from
the
mattress
and
recycle
that,
in
addition
to
that
fabric,.
M
And
what
volume
are
they
capable
of
handling
the
saint
cloud
company
that
attempted
that
and
the
non-profit
found
that
they
had
supply
and
demand
problems
and
the
big
problem
was
who
wanted
the
raw
materials?
E
We
did
work
with
them
as
we
were
developing
this
plan
to
get
a
sense
of
how
what
how
many
mattresses
they
might
be
able
to
collect
for
recycling
and
based
on
our
study.
We
were
able
to
give
them
a
number
of
mattresses.
We
anticipate,
or
we
might
generate
in
a
year
to
give
them,
and
they
felt
that
they
would
be
able
to
handle
that
and
did
give
us
pricing
for
taking
that
material
to
recycle.
M
E
E
E
So
they
had
a
tally
sheet
and
they
marked
if
they
saw
a
mattress
and
the
condition
that
mattress
was
in
or
if
they
saw
an
appliance
or
a
bicycle
or
whatever
that
material
was
so
based
on
those
numbers
that
we
received
in
the
in
the
study,
we
were
able
to
extrapolate
that,
based
on
the
number
of
residents
that
typically
participate
in
the
cleanup
as
to
what
we
and
again
that
would
be
an
estimate,
but
it's
a
fairly
good
estimate
of
what
we
believe
is
landfilled.
Each
year.
M
And
what
was
the
result
of
your
study
if
you,
after
everybody's
picked
through
the
piles
and
I'm
sorry
if
they
mess
the
piles
up?
But
you
know
we
do
live
in
an
urban,
suburban
environment,
and
this
is
only
one
week
per
area
per
year.
But
what
if
you
had
a
big
truck
that
came
and
picked
up,
mattresses
and
things
the
staff
is
sure,
can
get
recycled
and
then
the
garbage
truck
comes
and
picks
up
the
deciduous.
E
Sure
so
we
did
actually.
We
did
look
at
that.
The
ability
to
collect
those
mattresses
separately
for
recycling
in
our
current
curbside
cleanup
model
and
we
did
receive
a
proposal
for
what
that
would
cost
the
city
to
add
that
additional
truck
on
the
streets
during
curbside
cleanup
and
again,
I
don't
have
that
number
in
front
of
me
now,
but
it
significantly
increased
the
cost
of
the
curbside
cleanup
program.
E
M
C
A
H
I
just
have
a
quick
question
about
if
you
studied
the
amount
of
electronics
that
were
out
on
curbside
pickup,
if
you've
asked
residents
or
did
a
survey
at
all
to
say
of
those
recyclable
items
that
are
at
curbside
cleanup.
What's
your
probability
of
taking
them
to
a
drop-off
day,
or
are
you
just
going
to
throw
them
away.
L
Well
yeah:
this
is
pat
and
I
have
to
say
that
part
of
dump
days
is
just
it's
easy,
because
you
just
drag
it
to
the
front
of
your
lawn,
and
I
would
imagine
if
people
are
going
to
have
to
somehow
transport
it
and
sit
in
a
big
line
and
drop
it
somewhere.
That
probably
you
are
going
to
get
less
items
because
I
would
imagine
there
is
not
going
to.
I
would
imagine
the
participation
will
go
down
the
harder
you
make
it
to
do
something
the
less
people
will
want
to
do
it.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
any
final
comments:
we
could
take
another
one
from
anybody
that
has
already
spoken
and
and
has
something
burning
that
they
want
to
share.
M
Most
of
the
material
that
it's
picked
up
under
the
current
plan
does
not
digest
in
a
landfill
and
create
methane
gas.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
science
that
goes
into
your
studies
and
yeah
weight
is
important
because
it's
easy
to
measure,
but
the
last
time
I
checked,
no
landfill
in
the
entire
country
has
closed
because
it
was
too
heavy.
M
M
A
Thank
you,
sir
okay.
So
at
this
time
I
think
that
I
will
direct
any
final
thoughts
to
the
chat
box.
We
will
continue
to
keep
that
open
until
we're
completely
finished,
so
please
feel
free
if
you
have
additional
comments
or
questions
to
go
ahead
and
put
those
in
the
chat
box,
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
here
and
have
john
kind
of
share
the
next
steps
with
you.
B
So
to
wrap
up
laura
covered
these
earlier,
so
I'll
just
recap:
the
next
steps
that
we
have
planned
are
continuing
to
gather
feedback
through
another
listening
session
on
march
23rd
and
also
through
the
online
community
after
analyzing
that
feedback
we'll
report
back
to
the
city
council
in
early
summer,
as
laura
mentioned,
we
may
make
changes
based
on
the
feedback
that
we
receive
and
laura
do
you.
I
can't
remember
how
long
that
community
survey
stays
open.
How
long
is
that
open.
A
So
thank
you
very
much
for
taking
the
time
to
come
out.
As
a
reminder,
we
have
the
survey
out
there
at
blm,
dot,
mn,
slash
bulk
and
you're,
able
to
answer
questions,
but
also
submit
your
comments
in
there
as
well.
In
response
to
that
and
again
we'll
take
those
through
the
end
of
march,
and
we
do
have
our
next
event
on
march
23rd.