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District I Councilmember Dwayne Lowman held a Town Hall Forum on October 6. Councilmember Lowman presented on current City projects that affect District I and answered questions from residents. For more information, visit blm.mn/townhall.
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What
you
think
has
been
going
on
in
the
city-
and
hopefully
we'll
have
enough
time
available
for
that
so
I'm
going
to
move
through
these
slides
just
as
quickly
as
I,
possibly
can,
because
my
favorite
part
is
being
able
to
have
that
dialogue
of
that
conversation
with
you.
That's
typically
what
I
do
when
I
go
door
to
door,
and
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
it
here
and
I
think
I've
taken
care
of
the
welcome.
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So
here
are
a
few
of
the
topics,
and
can
everyone
hear
me
in
the
back
back
there?
No
problems
back
there.
Let
me
know
if
you
can't
hear
me
I'll
go
ahead
and
and
speak
up.
We
want
to
talk
about
Bloomington
tomorrow,
together
our
our
new
mission
statement,
some
items
on
the
park
system,
the
Dakota,
Pond
restoration,
project,
kind
of
around
some
sustainability,
how
our
golf
courses
are
doing
some
items
around
the
intersection
improvements
and
then
finally,
both
the
Veterans
Memorial
and
then
also
our
2023
budget,
where
we're
at
with
that.
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The
first
strategic
plan
that
I
got
an
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
was
just
between
staff
and
Council,
but
this
one
was
just
a
couple
of
council
folks,
the
mayor
and
then
residents
that
were
gathered
from
the
community
to
help
to
create
both
this
and
just
any
number
of
other
items
that
were
a
part
of
that
particular
plan.
And
if,
if
I
may,
we
also
came
up
with
some
core
values
and
I
wanted
to
read
those
off
too.
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So
just
so,
you
could
hear
those
which
I
thought
was
really
interesting,
having
so
many
folks
from
a
really
a
a
diverse
part
of
the
city,
both
East
West
age
and
educational
limit.
It's
really
interesting.
So
the
core
values
that
we
came
up
with
during
that
that
time
that
we
spent
together
was
the
community
that
thrives
when
its
members
share
the
responsibility
for
its
well-being.
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Everyone
benefits
when
there
is
Equitable
access
to
opportunity
and
then
finally,
Safety
and
Security
are
critical
components
of
a
resilient
and
healthy
community,
and
you
know
certainly
I
could
spend
the
next
hour
just
talking
about
that,
but
I
I
won't.
Certainly
if
you've
got
questions
about
that
process,
I'm
more
than
willing
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
But
I
think
it's
some
very
exciting
things
that
are
are
coming
with
the
city
of
Bloomington.
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The
two
golf
courses,
the
Bloomington
Ice
Garden,
the
Aquatic
Center,
the
Highland
greens,
Bush
Lake,
Anderson,
Park
Reserve,
or
the
Minnesota
Valley
National
Park
life
Reserve,
really
Bloomington-
is
a
a
place
where
natural
resources
have
been
a
priority.
It's
been
a
legacy.
That's
been
passed
down
throughout
the
generation
to
where
we
are
today,
and
so
you
know,
as
you
can
see
here,
what
this
plan
is
going
to
do
is
going
to
help
us
to
kind
of
take
the
next
step
forward.
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As
we
look
at
those
97
Park
spaces
that
we
have
and
allow
us
to
kind
of
reimagine
what
the
future
will
look
like
and
I
remember
when
I
was
a
kid.
I
live
I,
grew
up
on
84th
and
5th,
and
we
had
a
small
little
Park
called
effa
and
we
would
just
walk
across
the
street
and
we'd
we'd
do
just
about
everything
there
over
the
summer
playing
baseball
football
and
just
getting
together
and
to
have
this
opportunity
to
to
reimagine
this
and
make
changes,
but
not
just
at
the
the
council
level.
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This
whole
process
is
being
put
together
in
a
manner
in
which
that,
if
you
live
around
a
park
that
you
can
participate
in
that
process,
it's
an
engaging
process
to
allow
you
to
kind
of
help
to
kind
of
determine
what
you
want
that
property
or
that
Park
to
look
like
it's.
It's
a
it's
a
great
opportunity,
and
certainly
we
can
look
at
the
surveys
and
we
have
identified
time
after
time
that
this
is
a
top
priority.
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That
residents
have
seen
not
only
in
the
first
district
but
but
also
across
the
city
and
so
again
I
could
go
on
and
on
and
on
about
our
our
parks
and
in
certain
only
an
old
drink
covert
periods
of
time.
A
lot
of
folks
were
gathered
out
there
in
the
Parks.
I
also
wanted
to
bring
forward
this
to
the
pond
Dakota
restoration
project,
and
this
is
an
example
of
how
really
sustainability
meets
our
natural
resources
and
the
history
of
our
city.
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With
this
Dakota
Pond
restoration
project-
and
you
know-
certainly
you
can
see
the
the
notes
that
we
have
up
here,
but
in
2016
the
the
city
received
funding
for
Savannah,
restoration
of
the
pond
Dakota
Mission
Hopkins
Landing
site,
which
was
completed
in
2019
and
if
I
remember
correctly
and
I'm
going
to
look
down
here
at
our
city
manager.
I
think
it
was
both
in
the
Normandale
area.
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And
I
don't
see
it
here,
but
I
can
do
it
for
memory.
I
was
looking
at
our
golf
course
and
we've
had
I
think
it
was
back
in
the
70s
is
when
this
golf
course
had
gotten
started,
and
each
year
we've
had
about
60
thousand
rounds
of
golf
played
there,
which
I
just
think.
That's
amazing
and
and
the
reason
why
the
Hong
Kong
Golf
Course
is
so
interesting
to
me
is
it's
right
in
my
backyard,
I
basically
can
and
I
will
see.
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Golf
Club
balls
come
flying
over
into
our
driveway,
which
is
not
a
great
thing
when
you've
got
a
three-year-old.
You
don't
want
that
to
happen.
So
we're
always
looking
out
for
that.
We
have
seen
a
great
rebound
over
the
past
several
years
in
golf
at
the
golf
course.
The
course
has
experienced
a
three
year
straight
growth
rate
and
those
gross
sales
revenues
in
2021
saw
the
highest
number
of
rounds
played
since
2005
and
its
highest
gross
revenue
in
history.
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This
year,
Dewan
will
likely
surpass
its
2021
numbers
in
terms
of
the
sales
and
the
rounds
that
are
played,
and
we
don't
have
those
numbers
quite
yet,
but
things
are
looking
very
promising
with
respect
to
that
in
June
of
2021,
the
city
of
Bloomington
hired
a
hga
Architects
to
develop
a
conceptual
design
and
cost
estimates
to
replace
dewan's
Clubhouse
and
if
you've
been
over
there,
it
certainly
needs
some
updating.
The
current
cup
Clubhouse
is
outdated
in
poor
condition.
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The
city
has
also
contracted
with
Norby
Golf
Course
design
to
provide
an
updated
design
for
the
golf
course.
Both
projects
would
update
and
enhance
one
of
Minnesota's
most
popular
public
golf
courses.
Improvements
would
include
a
new
Clubhouse
with
upgraded
Food,
Services
renovated,
bunkers
and
pudding
greens
and
safety
enhancement.
These
improvements
would
keep
doing
golf,
both
sustainable
and
relevant
in
the
decades
to
come.
I
will
move
on
to
a
couple
of
road
construction,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
that
going
on
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
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There
are
two
intersections
Improvement
projects
that
are
underway
currently
in
the
first
district
that
will
help
improve
safety
for
both
bikers
pedestrians
and
drivers.
One
of
these
is
the
98th
Street
and
Normandale
Boulevard
adjustment.
That's
being
made
there
you're
going
to
be
able
to
see
a
lot
more
green
space,
that's
being
utilized
there,
and
this
will
help
to
make
some
some
safety
changes
both
for
drivers
and
for
for
those
pedestrians
and
bike.
Folks
that
end
up
utilizing
this
area.
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I
know
that
when
I
first
saw
this
project
come
about,
I
was
a
little
bit
skeptical
in
terms
of
what
this
would
provide
for
the
city
and
for
residents
going
through
this
intersection
and
right
now,
as
I
maneuver
this
each
morning
trying
to
get
into
work.
I
can't
wait
to
see
when
this
thing
is
done,
but
it's
going
to
be
nice
when
we
finally
have
it
done
and
completed
another
one
is
that
we're
working
on
is
the
West
Old
Shakopee
Road
and
the
Xerxes
Avenue.
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A
There
was
a
reduction
in
there
in
their
in
their
property,
and
but
those
reductions
that
will
be
done
will
provide
safety,
and,
if
many
of
you
know,
we
have
a
fire
station,
it's
not
too
far
from
that
and
by
adding
some
of
these
elements
in
there.
That
will
create
additional
safety
as
firefighters
come
and
EMS
come
to
get
to
the
fire
station
and
then,
as
fire,
trucks
want
need
to
leave
and
get
out
of
this
particular
area
to
get
around,
and
then
we've
also
had
I.
Don't
have
the
crash
data
in
front
of
me
there's.
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A
This
idea,
as
I
recall,
first
came
when
Vern
Wilcox.
If
you're
old
enough
to
remember
him,
he
was
on
Council
and
then
a
couple
other
Council
folks,
and
then
myself
and
then
now,
council,
member
dalessandro
and
councilmember
Carter
are
working
to
kind
of
drive
that
forward
along
with
the
mayor.
This
here
is
a
depiction
of
what
it
would
look
like
when
it
was
if
it's
completed
once
we
are
able
to
raise
enough
funds
and
dollars
to
put
together
this
Memorial,
which
would
sit
right
on
the
city
hall,
property.
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If
you
have
had
the
opportunity
to
see
that
we
did
pass
a
preliminary
tax
levy
of
ten
and
a
half
percent
back
on
September,
the
12th
I
remember
well,
I
was
the
one
who
helped
to
move
that
forward.
It
is
one
of
the
highest
levies
that
we
have
passed
forward
in
terms
of
percentage
increase
and
part
of
that
is,
as
you
can
see
up
here,
on
the
slide
that
we've
got
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
65
percent
of
that
Levy.
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Now,
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
here,
depending
on
how
you
look
at
the
percentages
that,
if
you
include
the
debt
services
for
fire
station
4,
you
could
say
that
we've
got
about
80
percent
of
that
10
and
a
half
percent
would
be
utilized
for
that.
If
we
stay
at
that
10
and
a
half
level,
the
preliminary
budget
property
tax
levy
would
would
be
about
75.5
million
dollars.
At
that
rate,
that
preliminary
Levy
sets
the
maximum
amount
of
property
taxes
that
can
be
collected.
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That
amount
can
be
reduced
but
not
increased.
Beyond
that
10
and
a
half
amount
and
as
I've
been
on
Council,
we
have
reduced
that
amount
quite
a
bit
but
I
I.
This
is
this
is
high
and
so
I'm
not
going
to,
and
certainly
if
you've
got,
questions
about
this
I
I
would
welcome
those
those
questions
about
that.
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The
the
primary
factor-
that's
driving,
this
increase-
it's
it's
significant
is
Public
Safety
spending
in
Bloomington
and
I
want
to
just
take
a
pause
here
and
just
talk
about
what
what
that
is-
and
you
know
certainly
we've
got
the
the
the
chief
of
the
fire
chief
here
and
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
We
have
got
some
changes
in
terms
of
how
we
do
paid
on
call
Fire
for
many
generations.
I
grew
up
here.
A
We've
had
a
paid
on
call,
some
call
it
slash,
Volunteer
Fire
And,
we
haven't
had
a
full-time
Fire
Department
and
we
are
not
able
to
make
the
runs
as
reliably
as
we
have
been
able
in
the
past.
There's
been
a
change
in
the
demographics.
There's
been
shifts
in
terms
of
how
we're
able
to
be
able
to
get
to
those
those
fires,
and
you
know
right
now.
A
Sometimes
we'll
see
one
or
two
people
going
out
out
there
and
that
if
we
continue
to
do
that,
there's
a
opportunity
for
that's
not
a
good,
that's
not
a
good
thing,
let's
just
let's
leave
it
at
that
so
and
then
we're
also
trying
to
catch
up
with
our
police.
If
you
look
at
cities
that
are
our
size,
making
sure
that
we
have
adequate
numbers
of
of
officers
to
to
be
able
to
to
meet
the
the
crime,
that's
out
there,
that
is
incredibly
important.
A
A
Take
this
off
here:
is
it
still
working
or
give
us
a
minute
here,
while
we
get
all
set
up
here,
see
if
I
can
grab
a
couple
notes
that
I
have
all
right?
Are
you
ready
or
all
right,
yeah,
not
a
problem,
and
this
is
just
this-
is
a
live
example
of
some
of
our
issue
with
fire
got
him
doing
double
duty,
starting.
A
A
It's
an
opportunity
for
folks
from
across
the
country
the
world
to
come
to
be
with
a
particular
theme,
a
lot
of
folks
know
of
world
fairs
in
terms
of
like
the
the
space
needle
out
in
Seattle
or
the
one
I
got
to
see
when
I
was
down
in
San
Antonio,
there's
just
all
these
different
places
where
it
brings
people
from
across
the
world
to
be
able
to
learn
about
the
different
cultures
and
I
think
the
manager,
the
other
day
talked
about
the
the
Festival
of
Nations.
It's
a
lot
similar
to
that.
A
I
do
know
that
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint,
there
are
some
things
that
we
would
do
with
really
any
development
that
happens
in
Bloomington,
and
so
that
that
would
be
the
question
as
to
whether
or
not
the
city
council
would
decide
to
be
a
part
of
that
process.
So
I
want
to
just
be
very
careful
in
terms
of
how
I
say
that,
and
there
are
other
there's
expenses
in
terms
of
of
city
managers
and
council
members
traveling
to
to
be
able
to
understand
that.
But
what
this
represents.
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So
whenever
we
have
programs
like
that
that
are
successful
and
that
generate
that
type
of
thing,
where
we
have
ticket
revenues,
we're
able
to
generate
additional
tax
dollars
and
so
and
I'm
not
being
as
clear
as
I
possibly
can
be
with
that.
But
this
is
a
huge
opportunity
for
the
city
of
Bloomington
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
this.
This
Expo,
if
we're
able
to
acquire
and
bring
it
back
to
the
to
the
city,
I
get
a
feeling.
That's
not
working
here.
A
A
D
I
just
think
that
the
economy
that
we're
living
in
right
now,
we
really
need
to
cut
back
on
spending.
I
mean
all
of
these
things,
sound,
really
nice.
You
know
improving
the
parks
and
certain
we
need
to
maintain
what
we
have
and
definitely
fire
and
police
are
very
important.
We
need
yeah,
but
anything
above
that
this
Fair
sounds
really
expensive.
D
If
you
say
most
will
be
Federal
and
County
and
state
money,
but
still
Wilson's
going
to
have
to
do
their
purchasing,
and
just
you
know
it's
time
for
us
to
say:
oh
those
are
nice
things,
but
like
with
a
home,
a
family,
they
can't
continue
to
go
out
to
dinner.
They
can't
buy
the
new
car
this
year
that
blooming
tonight.
I
just
feel
that
we
need
to
do
the
same
thing.
You.
A
Know,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
I
think.
That's
all
important
I
absolutely
agree
with
you.
It's
it's
important
as
we
anything
that
we
do.
We've
got
to
think
about.
You
know
as
as
those
families
are
gathered
there
at
the
table,
trying
to
decide.
You
know
what
you're
going
to
do
kind
of
moving
forward.
You
gotta
you
got
to
have
this
budget,
you
got
to
figure
out.
A
There's
this
long
list,
three.
Four.
Five
pages
of
of
benefits,
but
what's
the
cost
to
the
taxpayers
and
I
I,
you
know
I
trust
with
staff
when
they
say
hey.
This
is
what
it's
going
to
cost
and
if
they,
if
they,
you
know,
if
they're
not
being
truthful
with
me,
then
oh
wait
a
minute
now
I
got
I,
gotta
can
I
and
when
you,
when
you
take
the
expenses
that
we
would
put
into
this,
and
when
then
you
look
on
the
other
end
of
The
Ledger
the
revenues
that
kind
of
come
out
of
that.
A
My
understanding
is
that
we
are
going
to
be
in
a
much
better
position
after
it's
over
that
these
expenses
that
we
put
out
there
are
going
to
be
minimal.
It's
I
hear
it
as
travel.
There
may
be
a
little
bit
of
helping
with
in
terms
of
plans
and
developments
and
I
have
seen
those
have
gone
through,
because
we've
done
some
of
that
stuff.
I
know
that
we
did
for
when
we
tried
to
hold
down
the
property
of
the
farm.
We
put
some
dollars
in
there
with
that.
So
we're
already
in
to
this.
A
You
know
this
Expo
piece:
we've
already
invested
money
into
these
things
and
my
understanding
is
you
know
and
I
would
look
to
staff
to
correct
me.
You
know
if
I'm
wrong
and
I
ask
the
same
question
that
the
school
board
meeting
is
that
when
the,
when
the
revenues
come
in
from
this
and
every
other
city
that
has
done,
this
has
really
come
out
ahead.
In
terms
of
of
that,
that
equation
and
I
think
that
that
we,
as
policy
makers,
really
have
to
look
at
that.
A
What
is
the
benefit
and
what,
from
what
I
understand
and
what
I've
seen
it's
a
strong
benefit
in
the
side
of
for
for
us
as
a
taxpayer?
We
we
shouldn't,
be
doing
things
in
the
city
that
isn't
going
to
provide
a
benefit
for
the
city,
long
term
and
so
I
think
the
numbers
they
they
match
up.
They
work
out
and
it's
in
it's
in
our
benefit,
to
move
forward
and
do
that
and
I
hear
you
and
I
totally
agree
with
you.
A
If
and
if
that
isn't
the
case,
then
I
would
you
know,
move
forward
in
terms
of
trying
to
pull
the
plug
on
this
thing,
but
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
it
because
of
what
I
see
there
on
The
Ledger,
but
I
appreciate
your
your
comment.
Thank
you
for
for
clarifying
what
you're
looking
for
with
that
and
we're
going
to
just
take
the
questions
from
the
Bulls
and
we'll
go
back
and
forth
I'm
more
than
happy
to
do
that.
But
we
better
stick
to
this
and
get
them
all
answered
here.
B
A
So
when
I
think
about
what
am
I
excited
about
over
the
next
several
years
for
the
entire
city,
yeah
I
gotta
tell
you
when
I
sat
down
in
that
room
with
all
those
residents
to
put
together
that
mission
statement
about
making
a
remarkable,
City
I,
don't
know
how
you
couldn't
be
excited
about.
That
I
was
very
excited
about
that
and
because
it
wasn't
just
council
members
talking
back
and
forth,
it
was
a
whole
group
of
folks,
just
like
we
are
here
gathered
today.
A
Having
this
dialogue
and
conversation
about
making
our
city
the
the
place
where,
when
I
grew
up,
I
was
and
I
still
am
proud
to
be
from
Bloomington
I
mean
you
know,
I
think
about
when
I
would
leave
home
and
and
go
down
to
the
Valley
View
pool
and
be
able
to
swim.
Two
blocks
from
my
house,
I
mean
that's
a
remarkable
experience,
I
mean,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
excited
about
is
it's.
A
You
know,
I
read
off,
you
know
in
terms
of
our
core
values,
making
sure
that
the
the
bloomington's
a
safe
place
to
be.
We
even
talked
about
there
that
we're
making
sure
that
we
are
attentive
to
those
folks
who
are
struggling
like
like
I
was
when
I
was
a
young
person
to
be
able
to
to
be
able
to
pay
for
those
bills,
and
that
type
of
thing
there
was
a
large
group
of
people
who
saw
that
way
as
well.
A
A
So
for
our
district
when
I
think
about
our
district,
we
need
renewal
in
the
first
district
when
I
walk
down
the
street
and
we're
looking
at
some
of
these
retail
spaces
that
have
that
were
of
the
60s
they're,
just
tired
and
old,
and
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
in
which
to
convert
those
those
properties
to
what
their
next
generational
uses
will
be.
Some
of
them
will
remain
as
retail
others
of
them
will
shift
and
change
over
and
become
Apartments
houses.
A
A
And
that's
not
going
to
be
something
that
I
just
do
by
myself.
I'm
going
to
need
your
help
in
that
process.
When
you
think
of
those
parks
that
are
right
by
your
house,
how
do
we,
you
know,
get
those
to
be
the
type
of
facilities
that
your
family
and
your
friends
want
to
be
able
to
utilize,
moving
down
the
road
and
that's
going
to
take
engagement
from
all
of
us
and
that's
how
I
think
that
we
make
our
entire
City
a
great
place
to
be
so
then?
What
are
the?
A
What
are
the
challenges
in
terms
of
doing
that,
one,
with
the
way
that
our
society
is
changing?
Knowing
our
neighbors
is
not
an
easy
thing
to
have
a
conversation
with
our
neighbors
engagement
is
one
of
the
most
critical
elements
of
successful
cities.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
a
lot
of
conferences
across
the
the
country.
A
In
my
capacity
as
a
council
member-
and
that's
one
of
the
number
one
things
that
as
you
look
at
cities
that
are
growing
that
are
active
and
places
that
people
want
to
be
at
that
engagement
is,
is
key,
and
so,
as
we
look
at
our
surveys
and
I
was
just
looking
at
the
surveys
before
I
got
over
here.
How
do
we
engage
as
as
residents?
Sometimes
it's
it's
word
of
mouth.
That's
why?
A
Unfortunately,
the
whole
covet
thing
kind
of
shut
me
short
from
going
door
to
door,
but
that's
what
we're
going
to
need
to
do
is
figure
out
ways
in
which
that
we
do
that.
Secondarily
I'd
say
it's
definitely:
inflation
inflation
is
it's
a
killer
when
those
prices
go
up
and
you
have
a
hard
time
being
able
to
to
purchase
the
things
the
purchasing
power
to
be
able
to
to
to
get
the
things
that
you
need.
A
That
makes
it
incredibly
difficult
to
be
able
to
to
get
by,
and
so
we've
gotta,
just
as
we
are
looking
at
our
services-
and
you
know
that's
why
I
left
the
budget
up
here,
we
have
got
to
be
careful.
Welcome
come
on
in
so
and
I
could
talk
about
a
number
of
other
challenges
that
we
have,
but
those
I
think
are
the
the
top
challenges
and
the
other
one
that
I
I
personally
see
is
for
those
folks
who
are
economically
challenged
that
want
to
live
in
the
city.
A
A
It's
going
to
have
an
impact
for
those
folks
who
have
fixed
incomes
and
those
folks
who
are
economically
challenged
and
I
know
it,
because,
when
I
knocked
on
doors,
I
had
several
people,
stop
me
and
say:
councilmember
Lowman,
I
love
what
we're
trying
to
do
from
a
service
perspective,
but
I
can't
afford
to
live
in
Bloomington
I've
lived
here.
My
entire
life
and
I
can't
afford
it.
So
we
have
to
think
about
that
and
that's
why?
If
I
had
another
slide
here
and
I,
you
know,
I
I
was
really
careful.
A
B
A
Yeah
and
and
for
those
folks
who
may
not
know
about
this
particular
one,
this
has
to
do
with
that.
The
food
Scandal
where
the
folks
had
been
taking
the
trying
to
raise
money
to
feed
Starving
Children
and
the
money
didn't
end
up
working
that
way
there
are.
There
were
a
couple
of
folks
that
were
indicted
that
were
attached
to
some
things
that
were
happening
in
Bloomington.
A
It
won't
have
any
impacts
on
any
of
the
development
stuff
that
we've
got
going
on
there,
but
we
always
have
to
be
careful
when
you
know
these
types
of
things
happen
and
take
place
in
Bloomington.
We
have
to
make
sure
that,
from
a
reputational
standpoint
that
you
know
how
is
the
city
involved
with
this,
and
you
know
we,
you
know,
certainly
from
what
my
understanding
is
at
this
point:
don't
have
any
connections
to
these
things.
A
You
know
in
terms
of
formal
types
of
things
and
so
from
a
development
standpoint,
I
think
it's
the
African
Development
Center,
we'll
move
forward,
they're
still
planning
to
open
it
up
in
the
this
fall.
So
there
shouldn't
be
any
issues
at
all
with
respect
to
that.
But
with
that
being
said,
we
we
have
to
be
careful,
as
we
are
maneuvering
and
working
across
the
city
to
make
sure
that
the
things
the
people
that
we
do
business
with
and
we
work
with
that
we're
making
sure
we're
checking
those
backgrounds.
A
But
what
I
would
say
is
this
is
that
for
those
those
things
that
you
do
and
you
don't
do,
there
are
always
consequences,
and
so,
for
example,
if
we
look
at
fire
and
we're
not
able
to
increase
the
amount
of
folks,
I've
talked
about
that.
We
have
97
folks
that
are
on
the
rolls
and
I
get
a
chance
to
see
that
each
each
month
I
serve
on
the
fire
pension
board.
And
if
we
don't
get
to
that
159,
it
becomes
a
service
issue,
and
so
the
question
that
I
always
ask
myself.
A
When
we
look
at
these
particular
items
that
are
like
this
is
what
does
this
mean
from
a
service
perspective?
Does
that
mean
that
the
fire
truck
may
not
be
able
to
get
to
somebody's
house?
Does
that
mean
when
I've
got
a
police
circumstance
or
a
situation?
That's
happening
that
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
there
and
and
that's
sort
of
how
I
look
at
this
thing.
A
So
the
question
is,
you
know:
can
we
afford
that
so
and
that's
the
balance
that
I'm
looking
at
that
so
there's
another
20,
that's
out
there
in
terms
of
that
amount
that
you
know,
maybe
there's
some.
You
know
some
things
that
can
be
changed
there.
What
other
items
can
we
reduce?
You
know
the
question
that
you
asked
you
know
basically
and
so
I
think
we
have
to,
and
that's
what's
going
to
happen
in
October
and
November,
and
that's
not
just
a
single
council
member
sitting.
A
You
know
in
a
in
a
dark
room
kind
of
decide
that,
because,
for
those
folks
who
are
economically
challenged,
I
was
economically
challenged
here
in
the
city,
and
it's
not
just
a
you
know.
When
you
look
at
that
10
number:
it's
not
your
taxes
are
going
to
increase
by
10
percent.
That's
not
what
this
means
you
know.
What
that
means
is
is
that
if
you're
at
the
median
level
and
Below
like
we
saw
my
wife,
said-
hey
whoa,
what's
happening
to
my
our
our
taxes,
it
was
more
than
10
percent
for
us
one
increase.
A
A
A
I
mean
that
that's
going
to
be
a
problem
so
and
and
for
others,
you
know
this
is
not
going
to
represent
a
large
amount
of
a
change
for
them
because
they
may
be
over
that
that
50
median
income,
and
so
when
they're
over
that
that
higher
part
now
this
is
just
one
part
of
it
too
right,
because
this
is
just
the
city
portion
of
it.
There's
a
city
there's
a
county,
the
school
Levy,
that's
out
there
as
well
and
so
I.
Don't
know
that
I
can
answer
that
question
right.
A
If
it's
for
each
individual
taxpayer,
it's
going
to
be
a
different
thing
and
for
some
folks
they
may
say
for
me
I'd.
Rather
you
pass
something
closer
to
this,
because
I
I
value
fire
and
I
and
I
value
police
in
such
a
manner
in
which
that
I
want
those
numbers
to
get
as
quickly
to
that
ideal
number
as
possible
and
I'm
willing
to
to
go
ahead
and
do
that.
So
I
hope
that
that's
somewhat
of
an
answer
to
that
question,
but
we
can
get
into
more
of
that
later.
Why.
A
Actually,
it
is
a
high
priority.
We
are
in
our
master
plan,
we've
got
priorities
in
there
and
that's
actually
rated
as
one
of
the
highest
priorities,
and
so
that
is
actually
placed
in
there
so
that
we
can
get
to
work
on
that
in
our
capital
budget
in
2025.
and
so
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you're
like
me,
I
like
to
go
down
to
Moyer
Park.
In
fact,
I
do
a
lot
of
my
pictures
down
there
in
Moyer
park.
There
is
the
the
staircase
when
you're
going
down
there.
A
That
absolutely
needs
to
be
I
mean
it's
just
it's
a
shame
that
has
not
been
fixed.
I've
been
asking
about
that,
but
they're.
Looking
at
that
they're
going
to
get
that
fixed,
there's
a
number
of
other
items
that
I
could
go
on
with
more
apart.
But
trust
me.
They
assure
me
it's
a
priority
and
the
dollars
are
being
put
together
for
2025.
and
if,
if
it
isn't
done
in
2025
I
think
this
is
on
videotape,
so
we
can
hold
staff
accountable
for
that,
so
I'm
there
and
part
of
the
other
reason.
A
A
The
answer
for
that
is
that
we
have
what's
called
a
study
session
and
by
the
time
you
get
done
with
that
study
session
oftentimes.
There
are
issues
in
which
whether
we
have
a
lot
of
controversy
with
it
and
staff
can
kind
of
see
well
wait
a
minute
I,
don't
know
that
we
actually
have
for
folks
who
are
in
favor
of
this
thing.
So,
let's,
let's
we're
not
ready.
A
This
thing
is
not
done
quite
yet
to
bring
it
forward
to
to
the
council,
and
so
what
ends
up
happening
then
is
that
doesn't
come
forward
because
it
might
fail,
and
there
have
been
some
items
that
have
come
before
the
council
and
when
you
first
see
it,
we
voted
it
down.
It
never
happened.
Sometimes
those
are
seven.
Oh
sometimes
those
are
four
or
three
votes,
but
I
have
been
around
for
a
number
of
items,
whether
it's
been
four
or
three
and
it's.
A
This
is
not
like
the
the
legislature
or
because
we
are,
you
know
really
in
a
sense
public
servants,
and
so
you
know
we
don't
have
different
political
parties,
it's
a
non-partisan
Council,
and
so
we
don't
really
we're
not
set
up
or
structured
in
such
a
manner.
We
have
that
type
of
deliberative
debate
and
most
of
our
topics
go
through
a
commission.
Sometimes
they'll
go
to
several
different
commissions.
They'll
go
through
a
staff
planning
kind
of
piece.
A
You
know
maybe
two
or
three
times
and
we'll
ask
a
lot
of
questions
as
Council
staff
will
respond
to
those
things
and
help
to
to
move
the
policy
and
procedures.
So
it
gets
the
greatest
number
of
votes
and
those
folks
who
are
interested
in
moving
that
particular
thing
forward.
So
the
way
in
which
we
look
at
this
is
it's
a
very
much.
It's
a
team
sport.
It's
a
consensus,
a
lot
of
times,
we'll
look
at
something
and
we'll
say
you
know
what
we're
going
to
come
back
to
that
at
another
point
in
time.
A
So
that's
that's.
The
main
reason
why
there's
is
a
lot
more
7-0
votes
than
you
would
expect
that
there'd
be
a
lot
more
four
or
three
votes,
but
staff
is
really
done.
A
really
good
job
and
that's
meant,
unfortunately,
a
lot
more
meetings
to
go
later
into
the
night.
And
now
you
can
see
the
study
sessions,
that's
something
we've
changed,
so
I'd
encourage
you.
If
you
haven't
had
that
opportunity
to
to
watch
some
of
those
study
sessions,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
how
that
decision-making
process
is
done.
A
A
A
That's
out
there
that
you
see
I,
know
if
you've
been
to
kite
day
or,
if
you've
been
to
just
any
of
the
number
of
those
programs
that
the
city
helps
to
put
on,
and
then
the
city
also
helps
to
facilitate
the
other
organizations
like
baa
that
utilize.
That's
just
one
example
of
the
many
different
organizations
that
utilize
the
parks
that
are
out
there.
A
What
crime
are
you
talking
about?
You
know:
are
we
talking
violent
crime?
Are
we
talking
property
crime?
What
type
of
crime
are
we
kind
of
getting
into,
and
so
this
is
where
sometimes
perception
becomes
a
driver
of
understanding
of
what's
going
on
and
that's
part
of
some
of
the
conversations
I
had
with
the
police
chief
on
on
Tuesday
morning,
you
know
really
just
talking
about
well.
What
does
crime
look
like
here
in
Bloomington?
How
is
it
different?
A
I
am
I,
have
to
have
a
I'd
like
to
have
a
deeper
look
at
that
at
that
question.
I
think
that's
a
good
question,
because
what
I
like
about
that
question?
Is
it
really
does
ask
the
question
and
I
have
this
as
a
policy
maker
too?
Is
that
whenever
you
do
create
affordable
housing?
Are
you
insuring
and
are
you
making
sure
that
that
is
appropriately
distributed
across
the
city?
A
One
of
the
issues
that
we
have
with
the
type
of
affordable
housing
in
which
that
we
are
building
in
the
city
we're
talking
about
income
levels
that
are
fifty
thousand
sixty
thousand
seventy
thousand.
So
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
that's
what
we're
talking
about
those
folks
who
are
able
to
they're
your
would
be
the
firefighters
teachers,
those
folks
and
those
types
of
income.
Strains
that
we're
looking
at.
When
we
talk
about
that,
30,
Ami
and
I,
don't
know
what
that
that
number
is
I,
don't
have
it
on
top.
A
A
So
I
don't
know
that
I
agree
with
the
premise
that
we're
putting
affordable
housing
with
within
crime,
written
era,
crime
written
areas
depending
on
what
you're
saying
there
I
don't
know
if
I
agree
with
that,
but
I
do
agree
with
the
overall
Crux
of
it,
because
I
I
definitely
don't
want
to
have
that
happening
in
Bloomington,
where
we're
putting
folks
in
a
crime
written
areas
and
driving
that.
So,
if
somebody
else
has
more
about
that,
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
that,
what
do
we
got.
A
Sometimes,
if
you
replace
the
building,
you
provide
a
longer
term
solution
for
these
things.
So
you're
not
doing
that,
because
when
we
do
these
piecemeal
repairs,
they'll
end
up
over
time,
costing
you
a
lot
more
than
if
you
would
have
just
gotten
the
right
building
at
the
right
time.
Kind
of
like
our
PMP
program,.
B
It
says
another
multi-part
question:
why
does
the
city
of
Bloomington
charge
each
child
participating
in
a
baa
program,
a
15
fee,
for
each
sport
they
participate
in
to
use
the
city
park
fields
first,
part
as
residents
we
are
already
paying
to
have
the
parks
and
Fields
that
they
use.
Are
you
not
double
dipping
by
charging
them
yet
again,
baa
makes
sure
that
any
child
who
wants
to
play
a
sport
cannot
afford
to
pay
is
awarded
a
scholarship,
so
they
can
play
with
the
city
of
Bloomington.
Do
the
same.
A
I
was
involved
as
a
kid,
so
I
really
don't
know
how
they
how
they
all
operate,
but
I
know
that
they
have
to
pay
for
umpires
I,
believe
there
is
a
as
there's
a
fee
for
utilizing
the
parks
so
I,
don't
know
what
all
goes
in
it
because
I'm
not
in
that
that
business
perspective
or
what
they
do
or
how
they
operate.
So
I'm,
not
the
best
person
to
respond
to
that.
So
what
I'm
going
to
tell
you?
What
I'm
going
to
do
is?
Are
we
Jamie?
A
A
Well,
my
request
would
be
for
this
this
one
that
we
take
this
one,
because
I
want
to
get
you
the
right
information,
because
I
I'm,
just
the
wrong
person
to
to
answer
that
question
and
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
accurate
and
complete
I.
Think
that's
a
good
question,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
part
of
it
we'd
have
to
ask
some
of
what
ba
is
doing,
but
in
terms
of
utilizing
our
Parks,
which
I
think
is.
A
The
point
is,
is
that
if
we
pay
a
fee,
you
know
or
if
we
pay
taxes
for
our
Parks,
you
know.
Why
are
we
then
paying
again
for
that?
And
so,
if
you
are
utilizing
a
program,
let's
say
that's
being
offered
and
being
organized
by
a
different
organization,
and
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
that.
It's
not
like
we
used
to
do.
We
used
to
just
play
baseball
and
stuff
on
our
own.
We
organize
it
ourselves.
A
We
got
a
parent
to
to
be
the
Umpire
and
we
just
played
baseball.
Well,
you
know
there
really
isn't
a
charge
there
when
I
played
over
it
over
at
FF.
Nobody
else
was
using
the
park.
We
could
just
go
over
there
and
utilize
the
utilize
the
park,
but
if
you're,
organizing
it
and
being
a
part
of
that,
there's
going
to
be
a
fee,
that's
going
to
be
a
part
of
that,
because
that
organization
is
operating,
and
that
would
be
the
my
first
look
at
that
in
terms
of
trying
to
trying
to
respond
to
that.
A
A
A
A
And
so,
if
you
want
to
learn
about
a
different
culture-
and
you
know
what
these
people
were
like
during
that
period
of
time,
you
can
go
back
and
then
walk
through
those
those
pieces.
So
that's
one
example
of
a
of
an
innovation
that
I've
heard
of
that's
published
and
it's
being
able
to
be
utilized
and
what
I'll
do
is
I've
got
some
more
for
you
too.
At
the
end,
that
I'd
love
to
I
love
about
talking
about
Innovation
but
I
just
was
kind
of
thrown
off
by
that.
So.
A
So,
for
example,
I,
don't
believe
effa
where
I
grew
up
with
is
on
that
list,
but
they're
going
to
work
their
way
down
through
figuring
out
how,
in
the
way
that
my
understanding
is,
they
have
the
different
sections
of
where
these
parks
are
at
and
what
they're
going
to
do
is
they're
going
to
go.
Hey
here's
the
primary
uses.
These
are
the
the
the
bigger
parks
that
are
there
here
are
the
things
that
we
want
to
have
take
place
or
happen.
A
That's
my
understanding
of
what
they're
going
to
do,
and
so
that's
how
these
other
parks
are
going
to
play
a
role
in
that
and,
as
a
part
of
that
question,
you
know
how
will
staff
or
the
residents
that
there
or
be
engaged
in
that
my
understanding
is
they're
going
to
be
engaged
in
that
process
as
well
in
terms
of
how
that
works.
In
fact,
that's
my
expectation
of
how
it's
going
to
work
within
those
districts
that
you'll
really
be
able
to
help
to
kind
of
drive
that
forward.
A
You
know
what
I
think
that's
much
more
of
a
statement
right
there
I
just
put
a
period
on
that.
That
was
one
of
my
questions
that
I
asked
as
a
council
member
and
the
response
that
I
understood
that
that
the
city
manager
said
was
that
we
had
put
aside
some
of
those
dollars
to
adjust
to
be
able
to
handle
that
from
year
to
year
to
try
to
balance
the
budget
across
the
years.
But
that
is
that
is
that's
a
statement.
That's
a
question.
A
So
you
couldn't
just
take
those
dollars
out
and
then
just
take
it
to
bring
down
the
general
fund
dollars.
There
are
other
dollars
that
were
there,
where
we
could
have
done
that
and
so
I'm
gonna.
This
is
what
I
would
tell
you
at
your
door,
so
so
that
is
a
question
that
that
I
have
and
and
I
have
not
fully
satisfied
with
the
answer
that
I
have,
but
there
are
a
majority
of
those
dollars.
A
You
couldn't
utilize
it
that
way,
and
certainly
if
you
look
at
the
budget,
I've
looked
at
it
too.
You
first
look
at
that,
and
you
say:
wait
a
minute:
there's
all
these
dollars
that
are
out
there,
but
not
all
those
dollars
can
be
spent
any
way
that
you
want
and
I'm
certainly
happy
to
get
into
some
of
that.
I'd
have
to
probably
pull
the
city
manager
up
here
to
get
into
some
of
that
detail.
But
you
need
to
know
that
that
is
that's
a
good
question
and,
and
that
and.
C
A
A
It
was
the
council
that
he
had
the
staff
that
he
had
the
those
residents
that
supported
him
to
be
able
to
to
do
that,
and-
and
that's
you
know
as
I
look
at
this,
so
I
want
to
preface
my
remarks
that
this
is
a
team
kind
of
thing.
I
think
probably
the
the
biggest
thing
that
I've
enjoyed
doing
on
Council
is
when
we
brought
about
the
the
the
sustainability
commission
there's
a
number
of
us
folks
that
want
to
be
able
to
to
bring
that
forward.
A
A
I
think
that's
really
important
for
a
city
on
one
side
of
the
the
city
we
have
our
peace
monument
and
then
on
the
the
back
side
is
the
consequences
of
those
things
from
which
that
we
cannot
move
forward
when
peace
does
not
work
out
and
the
consequences
for
future
Generations.
If
we
aren't
able
to
make
peace,
work,
I
think
that's
a
symbol
of
how
our
our
city
operates
and
works.
A
A
A
A
You
know:
that's
really
not
one
of
the
things
they
teach
us
when
we
are
at
when
you
we
take
these
conferences
and
you
learn
about.
It
is
first,
your
first
and
your
only
employee
that
you
have
is
a
city
manager,
and
so
every
city
manager
that
I've
been
have
the
opportunity
to
see
and
I've
up
close
I've
been
able
to
see
two
because
we've
had
long-term
city
managers
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
I
was
too
young
to
to
know
the
other.
A
The
third
city
manager
before
mark
bernardson
has
a
different
manner
in
which
that
they
operate
and
and
run
a
city,
and
so
that's
kind
of
up
to
that
city
manager,
Bill
and
what
we
as
a
council
kind
of
do
is
we
look
to
make
sure
that
they
are
operating
it
and
running
and
getting
the
things
done.
That
are
priorities
for
the
city,
and
so
the
question
that
I
ask
as
a
policy
maker
is
here
are
the
things
that
we
want
to
get
done.
A
The
city
manager
is
in
the
executive
role
of
executing
those
things
and
I
always
am
very
careful
about
how
they
organize
or
structure.
There
are
other
other
council
members
who
who
don't
feel
that
way
they
want
to
kind
of
get
in
there,
but
our
form
of
government
is
really
structured.
That
way
we
are
part-time
counsel
and
we
operate
that
way
and
so
we're
much
more
like
a
board
of
directors
in
a
sense
and
then
that's
not
our
I
work.
I
have
worked
full-time
at
the
Federal
Reserve
Bank.
A
There's
a
lot
more
meetings
and
there's
a
lot
more
things
in
which
the
city
is
doing
and
part
of
that
the
contention
is
is
as
we
get
ready
to
make
shifts
and
change
from
a
demographic
standpoint.
We
need
to
prepare
ourselves
and
get
ready
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
so
this
particular
city
manager
has
picked
a
different
way
of
organizing
it.
A
Some
of
those
responsibilities
and
duties
were
given
to
other
people
and
past
administrations
I've
been
able
to
see
it
and
they
operate
and
run
it
in
a
different
way,
and
so,
while
we
didn't
maybe
have
that
formal
City
assistant
city
manager,
that
role
trust
me
was
there,
it
was
operated
and
working.
They
didn't
have
that
title,
but
we
absolutely
had
that
function
operate
and
working
within
the
city,
so
I
mean
that's.
A
B
A
As
many
of
you
know
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
this
outright
I
was
not
a
supporter
of
shutting
down
the
DMV,
so
I'm,
probably
the
worst
person
in
this
room
to
answer
that
question.
But
let
me
just
say
this
in
terms
of
what
happened
with
that
DMV
and
what?
What
the
and
what
happened
there?
Our
our
Council,
decided
and
made
the
decision,
and
this
is
part
of
this.
A
When
we
talk
about
making
decisions
and
making
you
know,
what
can
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
some
of
us
on
the
council
had
made
the
decision
that
we
needed
to
when
we
got
into
the
pandemic.
We
needed
to
look
from
a
zero-sum
budget.
It's
a
good
process.
You
can
do,
go
hey
we're
going
to
start
with
zero
and
we're
going
to
build
our
way
up
and,
as
we
did,
that
zero
and
built
our
way
up.
A
One
of
the
things
we
found
was
that
our
DMV
was
not
being
able
to
have
those
revenues
and
the
expenses
match
each
year,
we're
losing
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
with
our
DMV
and
with
how
it
was
structured
and
set
up
the
other
issue.
We
had
was
the
capital
piece
of
it
and
so
and
I'm
sure
if
you've
been
to
that
that
building
with
the
water
dripping
down.
As
you
get
ready
to
go
and
and
get
your
you
know,
get
your
your
license
done.
A
A
So
when
you're
paying
for
all
these
positions,
that
are
there,
that
gets
to
be
relatively
expensive
and
you're
not
able
to
handle
that.
So
when
we
have
the
downturn,
one
of
the
decisions
that
was
made
was
that
we
would
eliminate
that
I
think
we
eliminated
some
other
positions
that
were
in
the
in
the
budget
and
again
I
didn't
agree
with
this,
so
I'm
trying
to
do
my
best
to
justify
it.
A
But
that
was
the
the
rationale
as
to
to
to
to
why
some
council
members
came
to
the
conclusion
and
there's
many
more
other
ideas
that
were
out
there
to
eliminate
that
and
then
on
top
of
that,
the
idea
was
that
we
would
end
up
getting
a
private
entity
to
come
in
and
take
over
that
and
put
one
in
now.
I
have
not
seen
that
private
entity
I
think
we're
going
on
two
or
three
years
now
so
I'm
still
waiting
to
to
see
that
happen.
A
As
a
DMV,
they
move
the
passport
pieces
out
and
that
has
been
moved
over
to
hopefully
I'm
doing
a
good
job
of
this
okay.
So
you
got
to
stop
me
if
I,
if
I'm
not
but
but
those
are
some
of
the
rationales
and
some
of
the
reasons
in
which
that
we
want
to
went
about
and
eliminated
that
that
DMV,
so
it's
there
it's
done
and
we
we
need
to
move
forward.
That's
the
decision
that
we
made.
A
A
They
were
not
able
to
meet
their
meet
their
their
payroll.
Basically,
apparently
through
a
series
of
events
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
their
bookkeeper
of
many
years
passed
away.
They
got
a
new
bookkeeper
and
then
that
didn't
work
out,
and
so
they
weren't
seeing
budgets
to
see
what's
going
on
I
guess
they
would
meet
quarterly
that
they
didn't
know
they
switched
from
meeting.
So
what
ended
up
happening
is
the
organization
ran
into
a
prompt?
A
So
once
they
got
in
that
that
position
and
they
needed
to
get
themselves
out
of
it,
then
they
they
were
able
to
to
reduce
the
amount
of
money
that
they
were
borrowing
from
the
city.
They
brought
that
numbers
down
and
then
what
ended
up
happening
is
through
both
the
pandemic
and
through
the
I
guess
some
other
social
unrest
that
took
place.
A
They
kind
of
lost
their
focus,
and
so
then
you
know
those
things
all
included
brought
them
to
a
position
where
they're
at
today,
where
they're
trying
to
figure
out
what
they
need
want
to
do
moving
forward.
So
so
Artistry
right
now
is
in
the
process
of
working
through
a
hundred
thousand
Dollar
Plus
I.
Believe
it's
a
grant
that
we
gave
them
to
try
to
figure
out
what
their
future
is
going
to
look
like,
and
just
so
you
know,
Artistry
is
a
non-profit
organization.
A
They
have
not
decided
what
what's
going
to
happen.
We
have
not
decided
who's
going
to
be
a
part
of
that,
and
you
know
it's
just
this
Council
member's
opinion.
You
know
just
just
my
opinion
that
you
know
if
you
make
a
mistake,
I
can't
remember
where
there's
one
story
it
happened.
You
know
this.
The
guy
at
the
bank
made
a
mistake
where
it
cost
the
the
bank
a
million
dollars
that
guy
didn't
get
fired,
but
you
know
they.
A
They
took
some
of
that
money
out
of
his
own
thing
and
he
learned,
and
so
he
was
the
best
guy
to
be
able
to
move
forward
because
he
understood
you
know
what
mistake
he
had
made.
So
that's
just
one.
You
know
one
Council
member's
perspective
in
terms
of
you
know.
What's
going
on
there
we'll
see
what
happens
kind
of
moving
forward
with
that,
but
we
may
decide
that
those
folks
may
not
continue
on
with
that
other
questions.
A
I
want
to
come
back
to
you
because
I
know
you
had
one
Artistry.
What
is
actually
it's
an
Arts?
It's
our
Arts
organization.
It's
a
regional
Arts
organization.
They
do
theater,
they
do
art
classes,
yeah
programs
and
Galleries
at
Pacific,
Plaza,
there's
so
much
that
they
do
it's
kind
of
hard
to
kind
of
pin
it
down
to,
but
most
people
know
them
for
their
their
theater
in
the
art
galleries.
Those
are
probably
the
two
most
prominent
things
that
they're
they're
known
for.
A
So
the
council
good
question
you
know
so
the
question
here
is
is
about
you
know
the
levy,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
we're
able
to
pick
these
questions
up,
I
didn't
think
about
that
until
until
now,
but
for
that
that
Levy,
basically
the
council
will
votes
on
it,
but
we
do
take
input
through
the
public
hearing
and
we're
going
to
have
a
public
hearing
in
well.
A
There's
a
public
hearing
on
most
of
the
elements
of
that
kind
of
working,
its
way
through
October
into
the
November
to
when
we
get
to
the
final
Levy
part
of
it
and
so
yeah.
We
as
as
council
members
all
will
vote
on
that,
but
that
that
that
final
vote
you
can
show
up,
and
you
can
say,
Hey.
You
know
and
I
I
very
much
encourage
you
to
either
come
to
that
or
if
you've
got
questions
about
that,
Levy
and
and
priority
is
that
you
want
to
see.
A
A
A
Well,
if
you
keep
it,
even
those
are
yours
that
you
don't
have
to
bring
it
lower
those
other
years.
You
won't
have
to
jump
up
to
this
tent
and
they
told
us
this
four
years
ago
that
we
were
going
to
run
into
this,
but
we're
here
and
if
we,
you
know,
if
we
don't
get
this
figured
out.
You
know
this
could
go
a
lot
higher
than
this
and
a
lot
of
the
other
cities
that
are
out
there
are
experiencing
that
I.
A
A
For
you
know
you
could
save
a
lot
of
money,
but
then,
when
you
get
ready
to
to
fix
that
down
the
road
you're
going
to
pay
a
lot
more
to
get
that
so
whether
that
has
to
do
with
inflation
or
not,
you
wait
10
or
five
years,
and
you
don't
pay
to
keep
that
road
maintenance
up
as
we
we
typically
do
every
year
and
you
and
I
I
bring
that
Levy
down.
You
know,
based
on
that
I'm,
not
saving
you
any
money,
all
I'm
doing
is
I'm
making.
A
You
feel
good
now
but
later
down
the
road
I'm
kicking
that
can
down
the
road
and
you're
going
to
end
up
having
to
pay
for
it,
and
so
that's
the
balance
that
we
we
have
got
to
to
operate
and
we've
got
to
make
sure
we've
got
to
control
that
Levy.
So
it
doesn't
get
out
of
control
like
this.
But
you
know
we
had
several
years
where
we
had
a
2.5
Levy.
A
Those
were
those
were
good
years
and
those
were
years
where
we
were.
You
know
we
had
the
you
know
we
weren't
concerned
about
the
pandemic
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
as
low
as
we
could.
We
could
keep
it
now
we're
experiencing
inflation,
and
so
the
question
may
be:
do
we
lower
it
again,
but
all
you're
doing
is
kicking
that
number
down
the
road
because
you're
going
to
have
to
at
some
point
pay
for
this
fire
department,
and
so
what
you're
doing
is
you
are?
A
A
I
wasn't
able
to
convince
my
my
colleagues,
you
know
to
have
it
a
little
bit
higher
in
those
other
years
where
we
had
it
lower,
and
so
you
know
here's
where
we're
at
today
and
so
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
work
with
this
number
I.
Don't
suspect
that
when
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
gonna
it's
gonna,
be
at
10.5,
we'll
work
it
down
figure
out
some
ways
in
which
to
to
to
pull
those
dollars
out.
Does.
A
Four
bedroom
house
now
and
so
part
part,
you
know
part
of
the
issue
that
we
have
with
that
and
again
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
data
to
support
all
this
sewing
and
I'm
going
to
be
real,
really
careful
with
what
I
say.
Yep!
No!
Absolutely
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
So
the
question
is:
why
don't
we
have
the
kind
of
that
next
stage
of
housing
for
those
folks
who
want
two
and
three
bedroom
apartments?
A
It
was
talked
about
at
the
school
boards,
single
single
dwellings,
single
dwelling
housing
units,
so
that
when
those
families
you
get
start
having
a
bigger
family,
you
know
two
three:
they
can
move
into
those
homes
like
they
do
in
Edina
and
Eagan,
okay,
so
here's
how
I
would
respond
to
that.
Is
that
part
of
the
it's
kind
of
a
blessing
in
Disguise?
One
of
the
issues
that
we
have
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
of
those
folks
who
are
older,
that
love
their
homes
and
don't
want
to
move
out.
A
And
so
that's
that's
one
issue
that
we
have
and
they
don't
want
to
move
to
another
part
of
of
the
of
the
state.
They
want
to
stay
here
and-
and
so
that's
one
issue,
and
that
we're
starting
to
try
to
address
that
by
also
building
some
affordable
living
arrangements
for
older
folks
that
the
secondary
issue
that
I
see
with
that
and
we're
starting
to
work
with
that
we've
got
some
new
folks
in
development
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
A
What
we
did
this
past
year,
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
saw
it,
but
we
ended
up
splitting
our
our
our
development
arm.
Our
our
pardon
me
here
getting
a
little
tired
here,
sorry,
our
HRA
and
our
Port
Authority,
and
so
we
have
given
them
a
new
mandate
and
that
new
mandate
is
going
to
be
that
you're
going
to
focus
on
certain
targeted
single-family
homes.
A
We
need
to
have
those
conversations
we
need
to
have
those
questions.
I
need
your
help
with
that.
If
you
could
call
my
office
or
call
a
city
manager's
office
and
remind
them
of
how
important
that
is,
it
is
important
that
our
school
board
and
our
our
city
council
meet
on
an
ongoing
basis,
because
really
our
future
is
there.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
that
dialogue
is
happening
between
those
two
instances
we're
lucky
we
have.
The
school
board
is
contiguous
with
our
School
boundaries.
A
We
can
help
ourselves
moving
forward
by
making
sure
that
we
we
have
those
ongoing
conversations,
just
like
you
pointed
out
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
doing
that,
because
that's
a
priority
as
we
move
forward.
I
talked
about
renewal
in
the
first
district.
That's
what
I
mean.
That's
that's
an
example
of
what
I
mean
by
renewal.
We've
got
to
be
laser,
focused
on
those
items
and
moving
those
those
items
forward.
A
C
A
Let's,
let's
talk
afterwards
because
I
got
some
things.
I
want
to
tell
you
about
that.
I
got
some
things.
I
want
to
tell
you
about
that.
We
are
getting
on
time
here
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
for
taking
your
time
your
valuable
time
to
to
be
here
with
us
this
evening,
I'm
glad
you're
all
able
to
be
here
I'm
going
to
stay
here.
I
know
there
may
be
some
questions
here
and
we're
probably
getting
close
to
bedtime,
but
certainly
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
If
there's
anything
that
we
weren't
able
to
I
know,
we
had
those
two
questions
that
I
want
to
have
staff
look
at
and
try
to
get
that
posted.
So
you
can
get
that
how
many
discrimination
complaints
that
were
made
and
then
secondarily
there
was
another
one
I'm
trying
to
think
of
what
the
you
got.
Those
noted
Okay,
so
we've
got
those
there,
but
again,
thank
you
for
coming.
I
appreciate
you
being
here
at
the
Town
Home
Forum.
Thank
you
guys.