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From YouTube: Boise Airport Commission Meeting
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April 6, 2022
A
B
We
can
hear
you
guys
guys
everybody
it's
delightful
to
be
here
and
present
again.
It
seems
like
forever,
since
we
had
this
opportunity
and
here's
to
removing
masks
soon.
Hopefully,.
B
Absolutely
good
news
first
order
of
business
is
approval
of
the
minutes
for
the
meeting
of
march
2nd.
Do
I
have
a
mosha?
Absolutely
thank
you
in
a
second
well.
I
comment
one.
A
Yes,
I
just
thought
it
could
be
improved
if
we
would
spell
out
what
c-o-n-r-a-c
means,
which
I
I
think
I
know
because
I
was
at
the
meeting,
but
just
so
that
anybody
reading
this
might
know
what
that
means,
having
to
do
with
the
rental
car
center.
B
D
C
When
michelle
is
able
to
pull
it
up,
she
went
back
to
her
desk
to
pull
it
up,
so
she.
C
Her,
why
don't
we
skip.
D
B
C
All
right
well,
first,
it
is
very
good
to
see
all
of
you
today
and
in
person
and
I'm
happy
we
can
meet
like
this
again.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
at
the
airport,
but
first
I
need
to
start
with
some
sad
news.
Michelle
we
lost
one
of
our
key
employees
yesterday
or
the
day.
B
C
Yesterday
zach
thompson,
those
of
you
who
fly
probably
know
zach
he's
far
too
young,
but
he
had
a
medical
emergency
on
tuesday
late
tuesday
afternoon,
early
tuesday
evening,
and
he
passed
away
unexpectedly.
So
a
real
shock
to
the
team,
I
think
we're
all
still
in
disbelief
and
shock
and
you've
probably
seen
zack.
You
know
you've
been
on
the
commission
long
enough
that
that
pre-coveted,
you
would
have
seen
zach.
We
actually
just
promoted
him
this
summer.
He
was
an
operations.
C
Supervisor
he's
been
with
the
airport
over
15
years
and
he
started
as
an
operations
specialist
and
he
moved
up
to
an
operations
supervisor
fairly
quickly
and
last
summer
we
promoted
him
to
operation
supervisor,
who
was
doing
just
a
phenomenal
job.
Everything
that
we
gave
to
him.
He
ran
with
including.
C
Visit
last
summer,
he
really
you
know,
I
just
can't
say
enough
about
him.
He
was
very
well
liked
and
admired
by
our
team
very
knowledgeable,
but
also
very
personable,
and
he
was
you
know
the
one
who
interacted
with
a
lot
of
our
stakeholders
on
airfield
closures
and
snow
removal
and
working
with
the
guard.
A
B
C
It
literally
just
was
the
day
before
yesterday
and
our
team,
you
know
we
just
shared
it
with
many
of
them.
Yesterday.
C
All
right,
let's
continue
on,
because
there
are
lots
of
things
that
are
that
are
going
on.
We
had
a
a
few
runway
closures,
mostly
routine
maintenance.
We
did
not
have
a
significant
amount
of
snow
closures
closures
this
year,
but
mostly
light
maintenance
and
maintenance
work
on
the
runways
moving
on.
C
We
are
working
on
widening
taxi
lane
sierra,
how
that's
to
accommodate
the
new
amazon
cargo
project
on
the
south
side
of
the
airfield
we're
working
on
the
north
side
of
taxi
lane
sierra
phase,
one
marcus
is
leaving
that
project.
On
the
airfield
side,
it
includes
widening
the
shoulder
for
the
filled
out
from
design
group
three
to
design
group
five
excavation
for
a
larger
retention
pond
and
then
the
cargo
apron
site
itself.
C
Have
some
substantial
construction
going
on
related
to
the
parking
garage
the
tower
arrived
on
site
or
the
crane
arrived
on
site?
Well,
will
arrive
on
site,
I
should
say
on
the
19th,
so
that's
coming
right
up
the
office
and
the
exit
plaza
is
the
first
piece
that
of
the
project
that
will
be
completed
and
you
can
actually
see
the
pedestrian,
pier
bridges
have
been
installed
and
then
on
the
employee
garage
we're
doing
the
excavation
and
grading.
So
those
projects
are
happening
simultaneously,
but
phased
so
they'll
do
a
piece
on
the
public
garage.
C
We're
moving
forward,
we
talked
about
the
conrack
and
we'll
be
sure
to
spell
that
out
for
people
who
maybe
are
not
as
familiar
with
all
of
our
acronyms,
we
are
moving
forward.
You
can
remember
this
was
the
original
design.
This
is
the
phase
one
plan.
If
we
can
move,
we
can
probably
move
through
these
pretty
quickly,
but
we
had
a
meeting
with
our
tenants
last
week
to
go
over
what
the
eventual
design
of
these
will
look
like,
and
these
are
just
some
different
diagrams
showing
what
it'll
look
like.
C
We
had
a
couple
of
air
service
announcements
in
the
month
of
march
avello
announced
it
will
add
non-stop
service
to
burbank
burbank
was,
I
think,
our
top
unserved
market
they'll
be
doing.
They
started
with
two
times
a
week.
They
announced
to
four
times
a
week.
The
service
will
actually
begin
in
may,
and
alaska
also
announced
that
they
would
serve
four
times
a
week
to
burbank
in
may.
So
it's
an
exciting
addition
for
the
airport.
Not
only
is
it
a
new
destination,
but
it's
a
new
airline
there.
C
One
of
avello
is
one
of
those
what
they
call
ultra
low
cost
carriers.
I
would
say
it's
similar
to
allegiant
or
frontier
spirit.
Airlines
has
also
announced
that
it's
going
to
start
flying
to
boise
in
august
and
they're
going
to
fly
non-stop
to
vegas.
They
see
an
opportunity
in
that
market
as
well,
and
so
now,
with
those
flights.
Even
though
we've
lost,
for
example,
nashville
the
seasonal
service
didn't
come
back
to
nashville
we're
at
27
destinations
so
and
travel
is
continuing
to
be
strong
spring
break.
C
C
We
think
that
will
even
surpass
2020
and
which
was
pre-pandemic
and
then
2019
as
well,
but
we
don't
have
those
official
numbers.
We.
D
C
So
busy
over
the
president's
day
weekend
that
we
were
quite
concerned
about
our
parking
capacity
because
we
didn't,
we
were
down
to
just
a
very
limited
number
of
parking
places,
even
in
the
economy
lot,
and
so
we
relocated
employees
out
of
the
economy.
Lot
added
some
additional
striping
for
spacing
erect
spaces
around
the
edges,
which
added
700
spots
for
more
cars,
and
we
were
down
to
350.
D
C
And
assessing
how
summer
will
look
compared
to
spring
break?
Obviously
spring
break
is
a
tighter
peak,
but
we
could
see
demand
for
more
parking
over
the
summer,
so
we're
working
on
that
as
well.
We
did
lease
a
parking
lot
from
bsu
on
elder
street.
C
That's
how
we
were
able
to
accommodate
that
so
we'll
have
that
as
an
additional
resource
moving
forward
you
may
have
seen
in
the
media.
We
worked
with
congressman
simpson.
It
was
quite
some
time
ago
we
worked
with
him
to
include
in
some
legislation
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
taxi
lien
delta.
C
It
needs
to
be
removed
and
replaced.
It's
the
main
taxi
route
to
the
terminal
for
the
air
carriers.
We
weren't
sure
if
that
was
going
to
go
through
or
not,
but
it
did
and
we
were
very
excited
to
have
the
additional
funding
to
do
this
project.
Obviously
it's
the
main
taxiway
taxi
link
to
the
terminal.
So
it's
incredibly
important
construction
is
scheduled
to
start
in
july
and
be
completed
in
one
month.
So
it's
a
relatively
small
project
but
important.
So
we
were
happy
to
have
congressman
simpson
here
and
mayor
mclean
to
celebrate
that.
C
Okay
and
then
we've
talked
before
about
our
non-aeronautical
property
development
that
we're
working
on.
It's
been
contentious
a
little
bit
to
be
candid,
because
some
of
this
land
has
been
zoned
as
permanent,
open
space,
which
was
the
zoning
that
was
available
at
the
time,
which
can
trick
conflicts
and
contradicts
the
blueprint
boise,
which
is
the
plan
for
the
city
which
designates
this
is
industrial
and
so
we're
working
with
planning
and
zoning.
C
C
We
need
to
do,
however,
back
country
operators
for
those
of
you
who
have
had
an
opportunity
to,
or
maybe
you're
familiar
with
it,
maybe
you're,
not
they
exit
what
we
call
gate
58,
which
is
the
area
over
by
where
the
rental
cars
are,
and
they
pull
right
up
to
the
terminal,
which
is
very
unique
to
boise
and
doesn't
happen
in
other
places
and
as
part
of
our
construction
for
terminal
a
we're
going
to
have
to
relocate
them.
C
C
Last
year
we
postponed
construction
until
next
year,
so
they're
going
to
be
able
to
use
that
area
for
this
season,
but
for
next
season,
they're
going
to
have
to
relocate
out
of
that
area.
58-
and
I
know
that
as
airport
commissioners-
you
may
hear
about
that.
So
I
wanted
you
to
be
fully
briefed
and
aware
and
we're
going
to
work
with
them
to
help
them
find
a
location
in
one
of
the
fbos.
But
again
we
just
can't
have
them
where
we're
doing
construction
so
and
we
need
to.
C
Forwarding
these
slides
and
I
was
recognized-
I
was
informed
that
I'm
going
to
be
recognized
as
a
spiritual,
hospitality
winner.
It's
a
award,
that's
given
by
the
convention
and
visitors
bureau
for
someone
who
makes
contributions
to
the
travel
and
tourism
industry
that
will
be
on
april
18th
and
we
do
have
tickets
available
if
airport
commissioners
would
like
to
attend.
I
would
love
to
have
you
there
for
me.
C
It
always
just
feels
a
little
bit
awkward,
because
I
know
how
much
it
takes
to
make
this
airport
go,
and
I
know
that
it's
not
really
me.
It's
all
about
the
team.
It's
about
the
stakeholders,
it's
you
know
the
policy
makers
and
then
it's
the
people
who
are
here
every
single
day
day
in
and
day
out
and
there's.
C
That
go
into
making
this
airport
as
amazing
as
it
is,
so
you
know
I'll.
C
The
face,
but
really
it's
the
team
february
emplainments,
were
down
slightly
compared
to
2020.
Again,
2020
was
our
all-time
record
for
february.
It
was
pretty
pandemic.
It's
up.
Four
percent
from
2019
total
passengers
were
up
81
compared
to
2021
and
just
down
7
from
the
pre
pandemic
2020
and
one
percent
down
compared
to
2019,
so
very,
very
close
to
our
2019
numbers,
which
were
our
record
years.
C
I
can't
quite
see
this
because,
on
my
screen-
oh
okay,
you
can
see
it
better
than
I
can.
C
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
substantial
or
significant
here
on
this.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
move
this
here.
C
C
Operating
expenses
are
up
slightly.
I
think
these
are
mostly
you
know.
Chemicals
are
up
substantially
fleet
maintenance.
Those
are
some
of
the
timey
things.
Credit
card
fees
obviously
are
up.
That's
because
more
people
are
parking.
D
C
C
Thank
you
michelle.
Could
you
bring
up
the
airline
using
this
agreement
so
we're
ready
to
go
with
that
when
it's
the
right
section
on
the
back.
B
Country
operators
being
one
of
them,
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
hear
about
this-
have
they
what
they
would
like
to
do.
C
We've
talked
about
a
couple
of
things:
we've
talked
about
the
potential
of
a
shuttle.
They
were
going
to
get
me
some
information
about
times
and
dates,
they're,
hoping
that
maybe
we
could
provide
the
shuttle.
I
I
don't
know
that
that's
possible.
I
think
you
know
they're,
looking
at
the
possibility
of
contracting
for
a
shuttle
to
get
the
passengers
from
the
terminal
to
the
fbos.
C
Last
meeting
and
we
had
a
little
bit
of
homework
to
do
after
our
last
meeting,
but
that
was
the
last
discussion
was
around
shuttling
and
how
do
we
make
that
work?
Well,
what
would
their
proposal.
B
C
Isn't
a
solution?
I
think
you
know
we're
going
to
have
to
shuttle
and
they're
going
to
have
to
shuttle
the
best
way
to
accomplish
that
shuttle.
I
don't
know
they
would
like
us
to
take
it
on.
They
would
like
us
to
have
passengers
their
passengers
ride
the
shuttle
the
parking
lot,
shuttle
which
just
is
not
viable.
In
my
opinion,
to
have
the
back
country
passengers
require
an
extra
stop
at
one
of
the
fbos
on
the
way
to
the
parking
lot.
I
just
people
are.
B
C
B
D
C
That
they
had
proposed-
which
I
don't
think,
is
a
viable
solution
logistically
and
then
the
other
thing
was
they
were
asking
if
we
would
operate
the
shuttle
which
we
possibly
I
don't
want
to
commit
to
it,
because
I
don't
know
what
the
hours
are.
I
don't
know
what
the
frequency
is
might
be
able
to
do
it
more
efficiently,
just
because
we
are
already
operating
shuttles,
but
there's
a
fee
associated
with
it.
It's
not
for
us
to
absorb
that
fee.
C
For
example,
if
you
go
to
another
airport,
where
you
take
a
rental
car
shuttle
which
you
don't
have
to
do
here,
thankfully
the
rental
cars
pay
for
the
rental
car
shuttle,
the
airport
doesn't
pay
for
the
rental
car
shuttle.
So
if
there's
going
to
be
a
shuttle,
it's
really.
C
C
I
think
the
largest
back
country
operator
does
about
4
000
passengers
per
season
so
total.
Maybe
they
do
seven,
we
put
probably
on
a
busy
day.
In
the
summer
we
probably
have
8
000
passengers
a
day
through
the
security
screening
checkpoint,
so
very
very
important
to
them,
because
it's
everything
that
they
do
from
a
global
perspective.
There's
you
know
a
piece
of
the
airport.
It's
minor.
C
E
E
Said
not
good
everyone.
Thank
you
for
my
understanding,
my
hit
and
miss
attendance
over
the
past
little
bit.
It's
been
an
adventure
that
I
am
glad
is
behind
me.
I
was
telling
madam
chair
and
jamie
my
last
surgery
in
december.
I
hope
is
my
last
one
for
a
while.
I
think
things
are
headed
the
right
direction.
I
should
have
good
news
in
about
two
weeks.
E
If
that
test
comes
back
good,
then
my
next
step
is
five
years
from
now,
and
so
thank
you
for
tolerating
my
very
hit
and
miss
attendance,
but
it's
been
because
of
health
reasons,
so
I
apologize
for
that,
but
it's
good
to
see
you
and
thank
you
for
tolerating
my
my
absences.
Thank
you.
A
Well,
I'm
excited
that
we've
got
service
to
burbank.
Now
I
like
vacationing
or
going
down
to
l.a
and
burbank,
is
so
more
convenient,
so
much
more
convenient
than
going
into
lax,
and
when
I
was
going
to
school
down
there
I
went
in
and
out
of
burbank
three
or
four
times
it's
just
a
different
experience.
Getting
into
la.
C
B
Don't
have
any
questions
just
happy
to
be
here
great,
to
see
everybody
and
congratulations
rebecca
on
your
recognitions
that
continue,
and
we
appreciate
that
you're,
the
leader
of
the
team
and
the
team
does
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting,
but
it's
still
great
to
have
the
airport
be
recognized.
C
This
this
topic
gets
a
little
heavy
and
I'll
try
to
move
through
it
quickly
and
make
it
as
painless
as
possible,
but
it's
important
because
these
are
the
agreements
that
dictate
our
business
relationship
with
the
airlines
and
so
they're
complex
every
airport.
Does
it
differently,
and
we
do
this.
You
know
once
every
in
the
past.
C
We
do
it
once
every
10
years,
once
every
15
years,
it's
in
the
they've
historically
been
long
agreements,
so
our
agreement
actually
expired
in
during
cobit
of
october
of
21
and
we
extended
it
for
a
year,
so
our
existing
agreements
will
go
through
october
of
this
year.
C
Prior
to
that,
our
last
renewal,
we
did
not
really
do
a
substantial
renegotiation.
We
were
still,
I
would
say
we
were
in
a
very
different
place.
I
think
it
was
about
2014
2015
when
we
were
looking
at
the
previous
agreements,
and
we
were,
if
you
remember,
coming
out
of
the
08
through
basically
2012
downturn-
we're
just
starting
to
come
out
of
that,
and
so
we
didn't
make
substantial
changes
to
the
agreement.
C
As
you
all
know,
we
have
grown
drastically
and
our
business
model
has
remained
the
same,
but
the
number
of
passengers
that
are
going
through
here
and
our
needs
have
changed
dramatically,
and
so,
as
we
go
through
this-
and
I
will
try
to
make
it
as
painless
as
possible
because
it
is
quite
complicated,
we'll
talk
about
our
goals
and
objectives,
the
forecast
which
will
inform
it
where
we
are
currently
in
terms
of
our
rates
and
charges
really
what's
entailed
in
an
airline
use
and
lease
agreement.
C
The
terms
that
will
be
negotiating
the
schedule
and
timeline.
Thank
you
and
then
we'll
allow
time
for
questions
and
discussion.
C
So
this
is
very
complicated,
it's
not
something
that
we
do
often,
and
so,
when
we
have
things
that
we
do
on
an
occasional
basis,
we've
always
found
that
it's
in
our
interest
to
hire
outside
health
that
does
this
every
year
for
multiple
airports,
whether
it's
you
know,
building
a
consolidated
car
rental
facility
or
negotiating
an
airline
use
of
peace
agreement.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
people
who
do
this
day.
C
With
a
variety
of
different
airports,
and
so
we
have,
of
course
the
boise
airport
we'll
be
representing
our
own
interests,
but
we
also
have
a
legal
firm
of
kaplan,
kirsch
and
rockwell
they're
very
well
known
and
respected
in
the
airport
industry.
They've
helped
us
with
things
like
the
hertz
bankruptcy,
the
mergodio
park,
property
issue.
C
C
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
pay
for
all
of
our
capital.
Infrastructure
needs
both
known
and
unknown,
because
things
happen
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you
know
we'll
need
to
expand
the
security
checkpoint
or
the
ticket
counters.
There
are
some
things
you
know
that
we
might
not
be
able
to
foresee.
Just
like
we
didn't
foresee
that
we
were
going
to
grow
50
in
six
years.
C
C
We
want
to
be
competitive
so
that
way,
we're
able
to
continue
to
attract
air
service,
and
we
want
to
maintain
our
strong
bond
rating,
that's
important
to
us
from
ensuring
that
we
can
issue
debt
at
a
reasonable
rate.
We
want
to
have
fiscal
stability
and
ability
to
address
future
challenges,
and
then
we
want
to
modernize
the
agreement.
You
know
make
sure
that
it
has
all
of
the
current
requirements-
language.
You
know,
insurance,
environmental,
all
of
those
things
so
again,
substantially
unchanged
since
2006.
C
and
really
what's
driving.
This
is
the
increase
in
passenger
traffic.
When
we
look
at
fiscal
year
2022
through
november,
which
again
was
just
a
snapshot,
we
were
at
98
of
our
pre-covered
emplainments
and
our
landed
weight
was
actually
higher
than
it
was
pre-covered
and
what's
driving.
This
is
population
growth
in
our
valley,
in
boise,
in
the
boise
metro
area,
but
also
out
to
canyon
county,
which
is
growing.
C
I
think
the
stack
that
we
looked
at
from
the
census
and
shawna
looked
at
up
for
us
was
boise
has
grown
and
ada
county
has
grown
35
since
2000,
which
sounds
like
a
huge
number,
and
it
is
canyon.
County
has
grown
85
in
20
years.
C
So
when
you
combine
those
together,
we're
seeing
substantial
growth
in
our
community
and
our
population
base
and
that's
driving
a
lot
of
the
need
for
investment
in
our
infrastructure.
The
public
garage,
the
employee
garage
that
are
both
underway-
the
consolidated
car
rental
facility,
which
is
a
design
build
out
of
concourse
a
and
of
concourse
v,
which
was
actually
done
in
I
think
1996,
is
when
b
was
done.
C
C
So
when
we
talk
about
our
rates
and
charges,
they're
really
divided
into
a
couple
of
different
areas
for
the
airlines,
the
landing
fee
is
the
fee
that
they
pay
for
the
aircraft
landing
and
using
the
runway,
and
we
have
an
airline
fee
signatory
fee.
And
then
we
have
a
cargo
fee
for
cargo
carriers,
because
the
airlines
get
a
credit.
If
you
will
for
parking,
you
know
for
passengers
that
come
through
the
terminal
there.
Some
of
their
rates
are
offset
by
other
revenues
that
are
not
associated.
D
C
C
At
a
cost
per
passenger,
these
are
just
some
of
our
peers,
the
ones
that
are
most
like
us,
spokane
and
reno
are
probably
most
similar
to
us,
tucson
and
grand
rapids.
I
would
also
consider
them
to
be
in
our
peer
group,
but
not
quite
as
similar,
so
the
way
that
we
look
at
our
rates
and
charges,
we
have
what
we
call
cost
centers
and
things
are
divided
into,
for
example,
our
admin
security,
arf,
which
is
our
firefighting
aircraft,
rescue
and
firefighting.
C
C
C
That's
calculated
into
that,
and
then
we
have
a
clause
which
you
would
not
be
familiar
with.
If
you
are
not
in
the
airport
airline
industry,
it's
called
majority
and
interest,
and
so
because
the
airlines
have
historically
paid
for
all
of
the
improvements
they
have
the
opportunity
to
have
a
say
in
whether
or
not
we
build
a
new
parking
garage
or
whether
we
build
a
new
concourse,
and
so
because
the
way
our
costs
are
allocated
and
then
they
reimburse
us
for
the
cost
they
get
to
have
a
say
what
those
costs
are.
C
That's
called
a
residual
agreement
which
is
really
what
we
have
where
we
pay
for
the
infrastructure,
and
then
they
pay
us
on
those
costs
and
in
theory
they
share
in
the
risk.
The
reality
is
when
it's
a
downtime
and
they
say:
oh
my
gosh,
it's
terrible
economic
times.
You
couldn't
possibly
pay
so,
but
that's
the
theory
we
can
move
on.
C
So
when
we
look
at
the
agreements,
these
are
just
some
of
the
common
things
that
we're
looking
at
obviously
length
of
term
revenue
sharing
how
much
revenue
we
share
with
them
affiliate
airlines.
That
would
be
something
like
a
sky
west,
that's
flying
for
united
or
american.
That
would
be
an
affiliate
airline.
The
majority
in
interest
we
just
talked
about
and
the
other
ones
are
most
self-explanatory.
The
other
one
is
signatory
and
non-signatory.
C
So
back
in
the
day,
you
know
when
we
go
back
to
pre-deregulation.
Most
agreements
were
this
residual,
where
the
airlines
and
the
airport
agreed
that
the
airlines
would
share
in
the
rest
that
they
would
pay
whatever
cost
to
operate
the
airport,
and
then
they
would
in
exchange.
They
would
have
a
long-term
commitment
to
the
airport
and
they
would
have
a
say
in
what
the
airport
built
over
time.
C
C
C
C
Airlines
using
it
common
use
would
be
things
where
that
might
be
like
the
restrooms
would
be
confused.
Those
are
public
space,
non-signatory
premiums.
I
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
already
and
then,
whether
or
not
we
can
adjust
the
rates
mid-year
and
how
we
settle
at
the
end
of
the
year
right
now,
we
don't
settle
at
the.
D
C
B
C
C
E
E
How
how
does
a
contract
or
considerations
reflect
things
like
clothing?
You
know
unexpected
things
where
airlines
revenue,
obviously
plummets
and
the
airport,
plummets
or
fuel
goes
up
fifty
percent
or
seventy
five
percent.
You
know
just
these
unexpected
swings
that
affect
both
the
bottom
line
and
or
the
number
of
passengers
that
they
may
have
throughout
the
year.
I
mean:
is
there
anything
within
the
contract
that
contemplates
that
or
is
it
just
again,
I
apologize.
Maybe
that's
even.
C
No
there's
there
are
provisions
in
the
contract,
for
example
war
terrorism.
So
you
know
when
you
look
at
drastic
events
that
impact
operations.
There
are
exceptions
for
that
and
it
every
agreement
is
different.
Our
agreement
is
a
residual
agreement,
so
the
rates
are
what
the
rates
are,
and
it's
just
it's
calc
again
in
other.
In
other
situations,
ours
is
backwards.
C
C
Possibly
pay
that,
because
it's
been
so
terrible
and
some
of
our
concession
agreements,
for
example
like
our
food
and
beverage
news
and
gift
rental.
D
C
There
are
clauses
that
say
if
passenger
travel
drops
below
a
certain
threshold,
then
they
don't
have
to
pay
what
we
call
the
minimum
annual
guarantee.
They
just
pay
a
percentage,
so
you're
welcome
revenue
sharing.
So
these
are
this
again
goes
back
to
the
question
of
how
much
revenue
do
we
want
to
share
with
the
airlines,
and
you
can
see.
C
C
B
C
Up
one
more
michelle,
sorry
and
what
our
requirements
are
to
consult
with
them.
So
right
now
we
have
what's
called
a
majority
interest
clause
that
says
anything
over
a
certain
dollar
amount.
The
airlines
actually
get
to
vote
on.
So
they
voted
to
allow
us
to
build
the
parking
garage,
the
employee
garage,
the
consolidated
car
rental
facility.
They
would
not
vote
on
because
that
is
going
to
have
its
own
separate
revenue
source.
C
Do
we
really
want
to
go
to
the
airlines
and
say:
would
it
be
okay
if
we
build
more
ticket
counters,
so
we
can
bring
in
more
airlines
and
we're
we're
in
an
interesting
position
where,
with
the
addition
of
two
new
airlines,
we
did
not
really
see
this
coming
because
we've
not
had
new
airlines
in
the
last
we've
had
one
new
airline
until
last
year,
one
new
airline,
probably
in
the
last
20.
D
C
And
in
the
last
year
we've
had
three
new
airlines
we're
almost
out
of
ticket
counter
space.
So
what
do
we
do
about
that?
How
do
we
accommodate
them?.
A
C
C
C
C
That's
a
little
bit
more
tricky
because
they
they've
leased.
They
have
certain
things
that
are
what
we
would
call.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
the
term
right,
non-exclusive
preferential.
C
C
C
And
so
how
do
you
accommodate?
Then?
We
get
into
another
discussion
which
is
about
common
use,
equipment
which
is
an
entirely
different
discussion,
and
so
we
don't
have
to
have
a
majority
of
interest
clause.
We
do
right
now
that
will
be
one
of
the
items
that
we're
negotiating
airlines
like
to
have
majority
and
interest
clause,
because
it
gives
them
more
say
in
what
gets
done
at
an
airport.
C
C
And
I
think
this
goes
to
your
question
general
sailor.
So
thank
you
for
that
sci-fi
operational
issues.
You
know
the
gate
allocation.
We
can
set,
for
example,
a
standard
that
you
have
to
have
five
turns
per
gate
or
six
turns
per
gate
or.
C
C
C
So
these
are
some
examples
of
again
just
different
different
types
of
space
that
we've
talked
about
so
exclusive
would
be,
for
example,
their
their
offices,
their
office
space,
preferential,
could
be
the
gates
and
hold
rooms
that
we've
talked
about.
The
joint
use
we
talked
about
bad
claims
and
common
use
would
be
again
circulation.
C
And
then
the
timeline
and
the
schedule
for
discussion,
we
are
already
well
into
this
process.
We
kicked
it
off
in
january
with
an
initial
meeting,
we
had
our
meeting
in
march
already
in
april,
we'll
be
doing
the
financial
terms.
So
we've
talked
about
the
term.
We've
talked
about
the
allocation
common
use,
some
of
those
provisions,
and
we
are
getting
to
the
point
where
we
are
having
the
conversation
on
rates
and
charges.
C
The
good
news
and
bad
news
is,
our
rates
have
been
so.
B
C
That
it
will
any
any
changes
that
we
make
will
probably
result
in
an
increase
in
the
rates
which
is
good.
It
will
allow
us
to
build
the
infrastructure
that
we
need
to.
It
probably
will
not
be
popular
with
our
airline
partners.
D
A
A
It
shows
that
there
is
revenue
there
and
available
that
we
might.
We
ought
to
be
looking
at
to
increase
capital
funds,
for
instance.
A
C
C
D
B
B
That
this
airport
is
in
high
demand
and
there
has
to
be
sort
of
a
magic
intersection
from
an
economic
perspective
where
you're
willing
to
give
up
a
little
in
terms
of
roots
because
of
rate
climb,
because
the
overall
increase
in
revenue
makes
it
worthwhile.
So
I
view
the
airport
has
incredible
leverage
right
now,
given
your
history,
if
we
were
not
growing,
you
wouldn't
have
leverage
it.
D
B
C
Rebecca
those
other
airports
like
grand
rapids
that
have
passed.
D
C
One
of
the
lower
costs
for
airfares,
but
really
when
you
look
at
the
airport
expense,
I
think
of
an
airline's
total
operating
costs
were
maybe
less
than
ten
percent.
I
think
the
number
is
about
eight.
It
could
have
changed.
You
know
over
the
last
couple
of
years
with
covet
and
everything,
but
the
industry
standard
that
we've
used
is
airports
represent
about
eight
percent
of
an
airline's
operating
costs,
so
their
most
expensive
costs,
depending
on
the
time,
is
either
fuel
or
personnel
followed
by
equipment.
C
C
So
our
negotiation
team
is
actually
being
led
by
kathleen
watkins,
who
is
our
finance
director
along
with
this
legal
team,
and
then
the
financial
team
of
jacob's
lead
fisher
that
we've
hired,
and
so
I'm
part
of
it,
but
I'm
not
the
lead
on
it
and
that's
by
intention
that
they
are
the
ones
negotiating
it
and
then,
if
there
is
something
that
becomes
controversial,
they'll
bring
it
to
me.
I
think
one
other
thing
that
I
should
note
is
that
you
know.
C
C
And
make
boise
a
focus
city,
they
might
be
more
inclined
to
want
to
build
a
new
concourse
when
you
have
an
airline
like
allegiant
or
a
velo
or
spirit,
they
are
going
to
be
more
interested
in
common
use
and
per
turn,
and
so
and
when
you
have
a
legacy
carrier
like
delta,
their
focus
is
going
to
be
different
still,
and
so
you
know,
as
we
go
through
this
process.
C
We
just
need
to
understand-
and
I
wanted
to
share
with
commission
so
that
you're
all
involved
in
the
process
kind
of
these
different
nuances
and
understand
how
these
pieces
come
together
and
that
there
there
is
definitely
the
potential
for
it
to
be
controversial
in
case
you
hear
about
it
because
they
all
have
different
perspectives.
Different
wants
different
needs
and
they
may
not
align
with.
What's
in
the
airport's
best
interest,
we're
in
it
together,
but
we're
approaching
it
from
a
different
direction.
C
C
Been
an
excellent,
very
pleased.
Thank
you.
Well,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
share
it
with
you
again.
It
is
a
little
bit.
It's
a
well,
it's
a
very
complex
issue.
That's
why
we're
paying
outside
experts
to
come
in
and
help
us
with
it,
and
it's
not
a
project
that
kathleen
certainly
has
ever
tackled
before
and
even
I
have
not
been
involved
in
this
level
of
negotiation
before,
but
you
can
bet
all
of
these
airline
folks
happen
many
times,
which
is
why
we
again
right.
C
And
it's
been
very
beneficial
to
have
their
expertise
because
they've
been
through
this
process
before
they're.
Helping
us
think
through
these
complex
issues
about
common
use
and
joint
use
and
preferential
and
what
that
utilization
rate
should
be
and
how.
D
C
Very
good
one
thing
I
should
mention
if
we
don't
reach
a
conclusion
with
airlines.
If
we
don't
conclude
our
negotiations,
our
intent
would
be
to
do
an
amendment
to
extend
the
existing
agreement
until
we
can
negotiate
it
or
to
do
what's
called
rates
by
ordinance
where
we
just
implement
the
rate
until
we
negotiate
until
we
can
conclude
our
negotiations,
because
this
there
is
a
lot
of
material
in
here
that
we
need
to,
and
so
I
should
mention
that
that
if
we
don't
reach
the
conclusion
by
the
fall,
that
will
be
the
next.